Tough Cover Show: March Madness Is Here! - 03/22/25

#MarchMadness is here! Mark Henry Jr. and Sean Barnard talk all things NCAA Tournament as Days 1 and 2 were a spectacle as usual! What do Days 3 and 4 have in store for us? The guys are all over it!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Time to get ready for the day's action from the
sides to the totals and everything in between. Nobody does
it better than the top cover with Mark Henry right
here on the Gambler.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hello and welcome oo take two, Let's try that again.
Hello and welcome to a very special March Madness edition
of the tough cover radio show right here on Fox
Sports The Gambler.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I am your host, Mark Henry Jr.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
As always, you can follow me on Twitter at Markeva
Junior Underscore. It is Saturday, March twenty second, and as
you could hear from my voice on the way in,
I've been watching about twenty four hours of straight basketball
and screaming at my television, starting basically at noon on
Thursday to about well, I don't know, one am last night,
twelve thirty last night.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's been a heck of a time.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And Sean Bernard, I'll throw it over to you, my
co host is always back on the ones and twos.
You can follow on Twitter ash score Bernard one. How
are we feeling about March Madness.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, I feel like I'm going through withdraw right now
without a game on. I'm just itching form McNeice to
pop on the TV right now to get rolling again
for day three here. But yeah, I mean, it is
my favorite sporting event in the entire year. I think
it's the best sporting event in the entire sports world.
There you can get in the conversation of this specific
tournament in the outcomes. I know you were fired up
for Mark Henry Junior, but for me pretty much anywhay slice,

(02:31):
if you're giving me NonStop basketball for a consecutive amount
of days, you can sign me up for that, regardless
of the circumstances there.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, and I'm gonna stay away from the Thurdursday games
pretty much. We're gonna break down yesterday's games and then
we're gonna get into all of today and tomorrow's games
in terms of previewing them. But I'd be remiss if
I didn't start this show off with you know, a
little a little defense for in my opinion, the best

(03:01):
product in the history of sports, year in and year out.
And but I will also say that people have nostalgia
glasses with this product. In March Madness, I think you
get twelve months away from it and you start to
think that every game ends in a buzzer beater. You
start to think every fifteen and sixteen seed has a

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chance to win.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
At the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You start to think you're gonna get multiple fourteens and
fifteens and sixteens advancing onto the next round.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Because we've gotten it a couple times.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Every tournament, every bracket is different, every year is different.
That's the beauty of March Madness. We have one hundred
or one hundred that's way less than that, like sixty
years of sample the eighties, so forty something years of
sample size really to break down since they expanded the

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tournament and really kind of figure out the differences and
nuances of each year. What becomes common, what becomes rare.
And that's why, like a sixteen seed winning didn't happen
for you know, forty years until it did, and then
it's happened twice now but now because we've gotten a
couple of those big moments, people only think that that

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is the only way that March Madness can be fun.
It's the only way that the first two days you know,
workout as if we get in the Oral Roberts. So
if we get a umbc, we get a Saint Peter's.
In my opinion, we saw we saw a ton, a
ton of great, great games throughout the entire sleep Look

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at you, look at McNeese and Clemson. McNeese was up big,
Clemson got it close. Drake Missouri. That was a one
point game of three to go Arkansas Kansas. In my opinion,
maybe it ended up being like an eight point game.
I think it was the best game in the tournament.
And some people will turned down and be like, oh, well,
that's proof of my argument. I think for me, that
was that was high level basketball down the stretch in

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Kansas having that big move where they switched to his
zone and that completely flummexed Arkansas. That was Bill self,
in my opinion, taking a team that's less talented than
Arkansas and leveling the field and bringing them back up.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
And Arkansas was able to, you know what, figure.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Out the talent and figure out away and cal Pari
figured out the way to beat them.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
At the end, I thought that was a great game. Bama,
Robert Morris. You had a fifteen seed up one with
six minutes.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
To go, to a point where Bama they had to
bring in Brant Nelson off the bench, who was sitting
the entire game.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
He pulled a Kirk Gibson and you know, stood up.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
That's probably not a great example, Wills Reed. Maybe he's
a better one. He pulled up off the bench and said,
you know, put me in, coach, I'm ready to play
Colorado State down in the second half, they come back
and win the game. UNC came from down twenty and
we're within a shot of tie in it with three
minutes to go. Vandy Saint Mary's a three point game.
New Mexico, Marquette close until two minutes left, Baylor, Mississippi

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State three point game with the team having a chance
at the buzzer. Oklahoma down one with four minutes to
go against Yukon. I just think people didn't get the
fifteen sixteen seeds. People didn't get the buzzer beaters that
they wanted. There was a ton a ton of close games.
I actually feel like and maybe I feel like this
because some of the high seeds did blowout teams. I
just think there was a lot of teams that showed

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a really high level of basketball, Whereas I feel like
in some years past you see five or six teams
that seem like they're playing on such a different level
than the rest.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
I thought you saw a lot of teams play really
good basketball over two days.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, in the overall, like large, big picture conversation for
this tournament, I'm in full agreement that it's been great
quality basketball, a lot of great teams, and like, I think,
what the I guess people are missing or craving for,
are those like quote unquote march moments right now that
we haven't had a buzzer heat beater, we haven't had
any overtime games yet. This is the first time since
two thousand and seven that all four one through four
seeds moved on to the second round here, so there

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is like a little bit of that going on. But
I mean, again, I'm not gonna nitpick over this, and
there still could be great like stories and moments on
the horizon here, so I think we're kind of in
for the best stretch of this tournament still to come,
and I'm not giving up on it by any means.
And the zone defense thing, by the way, insane to
me how many compliments this gets as far as like
this being the Carrell the Jim Beheim quote popped across
my fiend that said, you throw zone defense at college

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kids and it looks like they're reading hieroglyphics, which I
think is a great quote there. But I mean, like,
I guess, on one hand, what's nice about the NCAA
tournament and college basketball really in general? You do see
this contrast of styles in a way that I don't
think really we see in other sports. Like sure football
you have running teams, passing teams, defensive minded teams, that
kind of thing. The NBA you have teams to shoot
more threes or play more in the interior, push the

(07:32):
pace that But in college basketball, it just feels so
much more variety and like the type of play that
you get on the court, which I think is really
cool to see it all come together.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, I think there's a Again, I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I love the stylistic clashes.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
What I will say, I'm an anti zone defense guy too,
but I do think there's a difference between like being
a team that runs a zone like Utah State or
Syracuse or or you want to say, and being a
team that has run zones seven times all year that's
down five or six in a tight game that they're

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overmatched in I think athletically and talent wise, and pulling
it out for a couple of minutes and totally totally
flumlexing another team. I feel like that's the level of
coaching that I think deserves praise as opposed to like
they just.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Run a zone.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So that's why I'm willing to give selfa a little
bit more credit there for kind of pulling that out.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
But I thought South out coach kal in that game.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I want the game, though, I think Cal is the
better team, and which is funny IAU they were five
and a half point dog.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
I thought that was crazy. And I haven't been the
hottest in marchmadns.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm actually plus on plus one and a half units,
but I'm eight and twelve, so I've definitely missed my
fair share of best. I've hit my big ones in
Arkansas plus five and a half was a big one
and they escaped that game and we'll get to it.
I didn't necessarily walk out of that game feeling better
about Arkansas in terms of making a run. But let's
go to yesterday, let's kick it back to Friday, and

(09:02):
I'll just throw it to you first. What kind of
games stuck out to you or what team?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
What takeaway?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Where do you want to start off? Because a little
inside baseball. Normally I would just go down the list
of the games in order. The ESPN app has refiltered
the schedule to just be the seed list, like it's
like the one seeds are first on the list. So
I don't even have the order of the games in
here anymore. So I don't really feel like piecing that together.
Let's just go, you know, we'll go a random order.

(09:30):
Where are you going first?

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Wherever I want to take it. I mean, I am
most excited for today. You kind of touched on it.
The Rick Patino versus John Caliperry Arkansas versus Saint John's
clash is definitely what I'm hyped up. I am disappointed
this is the second round game. I do think it's
the end of the line for the Razorbacks down there
in Arkansas. For a lot of the reasons you kind
of mentioned there, and I do think Patino has the
Saint John's tear absolutely clicking.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Man. I like the under in that game.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think it's going to be a bit more of
a defensive battle that sort of a rock fight. Neither
one of these teams are particularly excellent offen there. I'm
in on the Saint John's team that I've completely bought in.
I think they're legitimate threats. I think they cracked my
list of teams that could win this entire tournament right here.
Was impressed with what I saw with Duke, was impressed
with what I saw with Maryland. Obviously, Houston still all
in on that team. So there's a lot of high

(10:14):
quality teams. Have a quick shout out to Baylor as well.
Vj Encombe gonna be one of my draft darlings. I
can already feel that sort of bubbling up there. So
I thought there was a lot of high quality basketball.
I think that was probably my number one takeaway here
is there are some truly elite college basketball teams that
like are a tier above these, and like those are
the when we get whittled down to this final four
and beyond that, to these true contenders. It's going to

(10:36):
be exciting, high quality stuff. So this tournament, I don't
think we've reached the best stretch of it yet.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yeah. No, I totally agree with that.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
And you know, people like to say I need to
get the last word on arguments there, Sean Bernard, but
I think I let you get the last word in there.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
I'll move on to the next takeaway from.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
My day yesterday, and it's I'm gonna go with kind
of in an opposite direction. And I could go with
a lot I just touched on a lot of the
close games, but I'm going to go the opposite direction
with a team that.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I walked away just so impressed with.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
And I was kind of walking and expecting to be
impressed and walked away just as impressed. The Maryland Terrapins.
I mean, how And I actually didn't even mean to
turn this on you. And I'm going to do the
two for here, the Maryland Terrapins and the Oregon Ducks.
The Oregon Ducks also came out and smashed a twelve
seed and a Liberty team that I wouldn't say that

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a lot of people were that high on Liberty, so
I guess it wasn't like a trendy pick that Oregon
came out and smashed, but bad matchup. They just want
to shoot a lot of threes of Oregon. It does
a good job of preventing that. And then you look
at Maryland and for me, that wasn't about Grand Canyon
and Grand Canyon struggles to score. Grand Canyon got a
terrible matchup As a four seed. Maryland is legit Final

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four good. And the one thing I'll say about Maryland
and I do think they're going to beat Colorado State,
it's not a game I'm betting. Though they're only a
seven point favorite there, I'm definitely not betting that game.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
What I will say with Maryland is they are dangerous
as hell.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
In the first round, which now we saw and the
Sweet sixteen today are five players. They have a couple
bench guys who get minutes, but they are not relevant people.
If they are entire they're in starting lineup, so foul
trouble obviously will be a problem if they.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Ever get into that.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
But I think if they're going to run into problems,
it's probably going to be in the second round or
in the Elite eight, when you're playing your second game
in three days, and those guys have just played a
ton of minutes and now have to come back and
play a ton of minutes. So it's one of the
reasons I won't be betting tomorrow. I do think they
win the game against Colorado State. Would not shock me
if they show up a little flat after absolutely laying

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the beat.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Down like that.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
But then you could also say that maybe they got
a little more rest towards the end of the game because.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
It was such a blowout.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
So but those are the two teams that I'm looking at, saying, man,
if you're a one seed looking at those potential Sweet sixteen,
if you even can get there, those are some dangerous,
dangerous teams down the line.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
See that's interesting to me because my Maryland outlook is
pretty drastically different there. I do think they beat color
out of State, and I think they have pretty much
zero chance about against either Yukon or Florida when they
get to the round or the Sweet sixteen there, So
like that's kind of the matchup.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
You think they can beat either one of those teams.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I think they will. I think it's Yukon they'll be
favored to considerably. But if it's Florida, they.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Won't be they'll be a five and a half point
fait underdog. I think six and a half maybe, But
I'll like them in that game a lot.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
I'm not quite as high on Florida, nearly as high
in Florida as most people, And I.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Do feel like, I don't know why they're a blowout.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Of Norfolk State, which they didn't even cover in is
getting more. They're getting like more praise than Houston winning
by a million, then, you know a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think it was so quick, like out of the gates,
like that game is like forty to ten before you
even like blanked in that. So I think like and
obviously Norfolk kind of worked their way back in and
ended up covering in it and made it like not
that they made it a game, but at least gave
a you know, a faint something of hope there. So
I think it was probably like the immediate like downfall
is what I took away from it. Is why I
would say that, But here your point there.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, I just I love and if Maryland can avoid
foul trouble and you have a fresh week for a
starting lineup that is better than Florida's, Like, I don't
I don't care what people want to throw at me
about Florida's team. Florida's depth, they have more depth. They're
a deep team.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
I mean they have nine to ten guys.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
But Walter Clayton's the best player on the floor.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
H Derrick Queen's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I'm not gonna really fight that hard about that.
I'd have to look at the numbers, really, but Derek
Queen's pretty damn good.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
I imagine they're both pretty close to the top ten
players in the country. I don't think either are Is
that fair?

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah? I don't.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I wouldn't say either are. I do think Clayton's better. Fringe, Yeah,
they're fringe.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Right there around that ten. I would go Queen over him,
for sure. Queen's a I think Queen's a lottery pick, right.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, he's getting mocked that way. I I have some
skepticism about him at the NBA level, But we'll.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Say, what's your problem? What's your problem with Queen?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I think he's gonna be a little bit like it's
interesting we're getting this swing back for obviously, big man
that can handle shoot, and he can do all these things.
He's a very fun player to watch very interesting player,
just so stylistically the way that he plays, he brings
the ball up a lot.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
He can play make very well.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
He's a very good passer at the big man spot there,
doesn't have much rim protection, which is always a big
thing for me on a I guess, yeah, that's not awful,
Like that's something there. I don't know, it doesn't when
I watched Derek Queen play, I don't like he's very
much one of these like the subtle subtleties of like NICOLEA.
Jokic that he's gonna do the little things he's not

(15:50):
gonna have like the I'm the best player on the floor.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
It kind of adds up to that at the end.
So I'm being a little bit hard on him.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
He's a very good player, But I have my I'm
not as locked in on this guy's gonna be ex
at the NBA level.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
The way I hear people talking I the one thing
that worries me with him is like like a different
type of player.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
But Julius randall.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
His like skills, I've almost become like a detriment to
him needing the ball too much in his hands. But
I don't I do think Queen will be able to
kind of assimilate more than a guy like Randall at
the next level. And I think the skills, instead of
being like, oh, he has to do all, this will
be more of a like an addition to whatever his
role will be in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
He feels like a team I'm a real team guy
like he for the Randall contrast, like you're playing Julius
Randall ball when he's on the on the floor. It
doesn't feel like that with Derek Queen, that he is
more malleable.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, and there it's a good example of that with
just I mean five guys in that scoring twelve plus
a game.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, and he's the leader there at sixteen point two.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
But and that's part of like I think for a
long time, I.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Got so hooked on like picking the.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Team that has the guy like the lead dog, Like
that guy can go, you know, did no matter what
at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I trust that guy more than the other teams.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I think I'm like the older I'm getting, the more
I'm kind of and the more eighteen year olds that
I've watched not show up in big games, I think
I'm getting more along the lines of like give me
like five guys and double figures, like, give me, give
me five bites at the apple of guys who can
get hot and kind of take over a game a

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little bit. And if you average like twelve plus in college,
you can get hot and take over a game. I
feel like, because it's it's not easy to average twelve
plus in college. So I and Maryland having five guys,
and we're gonna get to another team that plays tonight
that kind of fits that bill as well, and maybe
a team that's on my shirt right now. But let's
kind of take a look at the rest of the

(17:48):
board yesterday and let's let's go to Bama. Baman was
a big one, and obviously Robert Morris up one six
minutes to go, and Grant Nelson comes in and shows
just how important Grant Nelson is. I'm choosing to not
be worried about Alabama, and I think that, you know,
I don't have Alabama going to the Final Four, winning
it all or anything.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I have him in the Elite eight.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
But I'm choosing to believe that this game didn't show
anything except for just how important Grant Nelson is. He's
their most valuable player, and I think he's one of
the most valuable players in the country. Again, is he
one of the top ten players in the country. Probably not,
But I think he's one of the most valuable players
in the country for what he brings to that Dama team.
They have the guards, Like if one of those guys

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went out, the other guys I think could pick up
the slack. They don't have the guy to step in
if Grant Nelson's you know, out of the game. He's
the backbone of the defense. He gives you, you know,
the threat to go dunk on your head inside. He
hasn't shot a good percentage from three, but he can
get hot from three and we've seen it in big
games in the tournament last year on their final four runs.

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So I just think he kind of brings a different
dimension to that Alabama offense and defense. And all this
game showed me is that they're going to be fine
if he's out there playing, and they're not if he's not.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I think that is the larger takeaway, and I
think we all kind of knew this was the case
with Alabama that like they're never going to be a
team that cuts things off defensively. There if you can
run with them, you have a chance to. And that's
what Robert Morris did. And I'll give a special shout
out to Amari and Dixon Dickerson, who was I thought
the best player on the floor in that game. Twenty
five points in that game looked terrific for Robert Morris there,
so the guy showed up. I give Robert Morris more,

(19:24):
far more credit than I take away from Alabama specifically,
And I don't think it's the worst thing in the
world for a team like Alabama to get a bit
of a scare in the first round, to kind of
have that wake up call of like, okay, we need
to really take this serious right from the opening tip,
because you get one chance of this. So I'm not
panicking if I'm rooting for Alabama, cheering them on or
have them deep in the tournament. Here, they certainly did
not play up to the peak of their performance. And

(19:45):
the fact that Grant Nelson was able to step on
the floor and actually play basketball and I thought he
looked just fine when he was in there, Yeah, I
think should be very encouraging there. So definitely not how
you want to start the tournament, but not anything that
I'd be in panic.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Mode or throwing the talent by any.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Means, and we'll talk about it.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
With the Sunday games, I think we might be getting
a little bit of a discount on the Crimson Tide
for Sunday.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
So that's something to focus on.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Another game to bring up, and I we're kind of
jumping all around here. This is an example of a
close game that I listed as one of the best games,
but an example of two teams that I was not
impressed with in Vanderbilt and Saint Mary's.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Oh my god, that was some of the ugly I think.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
There's a lot of high level basketball over the last
two days compared to usual college basketball. Maybe that's just
me thinking scoring is up and more threes, or I
don't know what that is for me. But Vanderbilt Saint
Mary's was neither team wanted to win. Vanderbilt stopped scoring
for five minutes and Saint Mary's couldn't pull away. Saint
Mary's finds a way to win. But this is one

(20:48):
of the examples of a game where I watched and
I'm trying to fade the team that lost another team
that wanted.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, definitely one of the more forgettable games. Of the day,
and there were a lot to impacked in there of
like the action. Now, I'm kind of getting lost in
the shuffle, so don't have any super hard hitting takeaways.
I never kind of saw the vision like It's interesting
when looking at these teams that people want to talk
into is like the Cinderella's these stories. I guess McNeice
and Drake are really the two teams that I would
look at as those and again very differently styles of

(21:15):
thes Drake the slowest paced team in the country. McNeice
I think is a live dog for this Purdue game,
and that's the team that if I'm circling, one that
I think has a chance to make a run deeper
in this that McNeice I.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Feel better about.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
But we are pretty light on those and I think
VC is an example of a team like not being
willing to take their opportunity that was right there in
front of them. So a lot of action, you know,
not one of those games that will we hang in
our hats on at the end of the tournament.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
But the bottom line is the action keep.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Going, you know what, Let's take a break and on
the other side, we're gonna come back and just preview
the next two games, and we're gonna get into some
takeaways from the previous games.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
While previewing those ones.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think that I think that's instead of going through
each of these blowouts with some of the higher seeded teams.
So let's take a break and on the other side,
previewing all of Saturday's games.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Spreads, totals and all the prop that's in between. It's
the Gambler, just.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Enough for making fun of me.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
There's something of this stuff. Well, listen noted.

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Speaker 4 (22:48):
Like if Meek Mill has dreams and nightmares like, that's Futures.
Like if I'm thinking like one song for Future, it's
March Madness.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
See, I think you're sleeping on futures.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Bag.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
If that's your takedown, I'm not doesn't crack my top
ten Future songs that I would throw out.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
That's a bad take.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Good not only is that my number one Future song
that might be straight up a top ten.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Rap song of all time for me. Wow, that's a
crazy I love that song.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
That's like I last year, I yeah, I put out
like a video like every morning with that song in
the background of March Matt, like I that's that's what
a banger.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I support the song, not anti the song by any means.
So I want to get that twisted dead. But I
think Future's catalog is deep. I'll just point that out.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Well, yeah, that's fair. It wasn't me even trying to
disrespect Future. It was me trying to say, I think
let's do it. Let's look up Future on Apple Music.
What are the known songs. By the way, this is
not necessarily always like a good gauge of Yeah, it's
not they have like the twenty twenty five song.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Crazy like that. That's Future that so March Matt. Here's
what I will say.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Besides songs listed from twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,
which I think those just get pushed up the Apple
Music list because they're recent. It is the first song
listed like pre the last year.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
That doesn't shock me that I think popularity wise, it's
certainly like that.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah, okay, I was more saying like iconic.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Okay, for me personally, I like it the most, but
like I think it's like his iconic.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Song is March Badness.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, I'm thinking some of like the Drake in Future,
like the where You're At and stuff like that, Like, yes, probably,
but yeah, I mean I mean March Madness.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Like it hits this time of year, There's no doubt about.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
That, and that's part of it. To you.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Hear it every year at this time of the year,
so it kind of brings it back on the mind
and in a way that other songs don't have that
time of the year type of thing. But twelve ten
today starting it off McNeice Purdue, second round round of
thirty two year Produce six and a half point favorite.
By the way, a lot of these lines bouncing around, Yeah,
like within a point and a half of either up

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per down, all morning, all night.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I had some of these lines bet yesterday.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I bet some of them this morning, and they've been
bouncing around like a ping pong ball. But Produce sitting
there at six and a half. This is one of
the only games of the day. I don't have a
pick on my lean would be mcneice's team total over
sixty eight and a half. I would take a look
at that because that Purdue two point defense is dreadful.
But I brought it up too much in the preview

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to the show because high Point is terrible.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
High Point was not.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Going to be able to take advantage of that. They
were taking all their shots from three. They don't take
two pointers. It was so obvious to me that that
wasn't going to be Now, it's so obvious that I
shouldn't have been pushing high Point. I should have been
waiting for this second round matchup. That mcneesse does push
you around a little bit. Yeah, obviously Clemson really tough inside,
and they were able to get inside on Clemson preduing

(25:44):
much worse inside.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think McNeese should be able to score. I don't
know about the other side of the ball.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I like McNeice the plus six and a half, and
I think they're a live dogs straight up here.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
That they're big, they're athletic.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
This isn't just kind of a mid major that is
going to play mid major brand of basketball. They will
get after you, they will be physical defensively, assert themselves
with their athleticism there.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
So I like this McNeese State team.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I thought it was a pretty impressive performance the way
that they showed up in that first round and like
really controlling that game from start to finish as they
beat Clempson there, jumped out to an early lead, never
looked back at it. And on the other side of things,
as you mentioned, I thought Purdue looked vulnerable in that
game man and high Point couldn't take it. I think
mcneise is a team that if you give them a chance,
they will so I think mcneise absolutely keeps within that
six and a half window there. I think it's a

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pretty good chance that they went out right, and I
do think the money line is worth the play there.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, I just the thing that scares me is just
I do think Purdue's offense is really good.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
I think Purdue is going to score a lot here.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I don't know if m He's going to be the
defense to stop them. So that's why I would if
I was going to better, I think I would just
bet on the offense for McNeese. But I will say
I'm shocked that this is the twelve to ten game.
It's to me, it's one of the worst games of
the day.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
I guess it's why twelve ten game.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I guess so, but it's also a standalone like they
used twelve ten for trow for the best game in
this day arguably was Florida and Yukon, or at least
maybe the biggest, the biggest prestige game I guess of
the day was Florida and Yukon.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
But let's move on to I think.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Where they put maybe the best game of the day
or maybe the one that's the biggest prestige at two
forty with Arkansas and Saint John's and you got John Caliparty,
you got Rick Patino.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
I thought, I thought it was funny.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Rick Patino at the press conference said he's never he's
never had dinner with John cal Parky.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
He's been a note machine lately.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
By the way, Yeah it is. Oh, he's he's the god,
he's the quote god. But he said he's known him
for like fifty years.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
And they've never had dinner together. It's crazy, but I
thought that was funny. Where are you going in this one?

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
My favorite play from a betting perspective would be the
under of one forty five and a half. Here seven
and a half feels kind of like a lot to me,
which is what the numbers sitting at right now. I
do think Saint John's wins. I feel very confident about that.
Their minus three ten on the money line there, but
I do think Arkansas could give them a scare a
little bit, guys like John al Davis or the real deal.
They have tournaments, They got a deep roster, Boogie Flann
coming back, DJ Wagner showing some flashes, so that Arkansas

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team isn't nothing by any means. But I love the
way that the Saint John's team competes, the way that
they commit defensively.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
R J.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Lewis is awesome and has been red hot hit five
three pointers in that opening round game. I think he
continues playing well. So if the number slips a little
bit to maybe five and a half four and a half,
I'm all over it. I think it's pretty unlikely or
pretty basically off the table that does happen there. The
seven and a half feels strong's, but I do think
Saint John's wins, and I think this is gonna be
a bit of a rock fighter defensive battle. So the
under one forty five and a half would be my

(28:32):
favorite play there.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I love Saint John's here. I'm taking Saint John's minus
six and a half. I'm also throwing Saint John's in
in a money line parlay with Houston as at plus
one hundred there for one unit. I think Saint John's obviously.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
First half got off to rush start.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Actually think Omahal is a pretty good fifteen seat so
I think that they got a rough draw as far
as fifteen seats go.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
And Arkansas I thought.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Really really showed a lot of problems throughout that game.
Cali Party's rotations in that game were truly bizarre compared
to like how he's played guys throughout the entire season.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
The boogie flaying thing has messed everything up. I don't
understand why they even brought him back, to be perfectly honest,
said they were better without him. I get he's like
this highly recruited guard and he honestly, I thought he
played perfectly fine in the tournament, but that interrupted like
the entire flow of how you rotate guys, like the
whole strategy of how to play. So him not playing
since January and then showing up for the first time
in the tournament was interesting, and I think that's kind

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of what led to a bunch of these disruptions.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
It just a lot of it doesn't make any sense.
Jonas Ad has been playing like six minutes a game
down the stretch, he played eighteen minutes a game.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
He got thirty nine minutes play big Z. He did
play well.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
I did think he had a stretch there. I thought
he looked pretty tired, and it has left him out there.
Big Z Ofvisic, who's averaged ten points a game, four
and half rebounds. He averaged twenty twenty minutes a game
he played for Call Kentucky last year he got four
didn't see the field. Brazil, a guy who I thought
played awesome. I thought he played his he played his
butt off. He only played, he only plays twenty minutes

(30:07):
per game. He played twenty seven minutes like DJ Wagner
played a full forty out there. And then Billy Richmond,
who I felt looked like the worst player I've ever
seen on a college basketball player, played twenty minutes. He
looked so out of control. I know what he went
nineteen nineteen minutes, oh for five, two turnovers of foul like.
I don't know why he's out there for nineteen minutes

(30:29):
of the game, like the Knox only played sixteen minutes.
Carter Knox, he's been one of their better players down
the stretch, Kevin Knox's little brother who looks nothing like
Kevin Knox. But I didn't understand the rotations from cal
in this game, and I think these inconsistent rotations are.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Going to come back to bite him today.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
And I think what you saw down the stretch, not
being able to score in the half court Patino watched that.
Saint John's watched that in Saint John's has a way
better defense than Kansas. I think I think their offense
is going to get squished half court.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I also, if you want to bet this directly, the
under sixty nine and a half for Arkansas, I like
a lot as well that I do think Saint John's
the defense is going to be all over it. That's
that's what I think we walk away from this game
at the end is the takeaway of Saint John's has
a championship level defense, and I think we should have
known that for several weeks now. But it feels like
this is going to be one of those measuring stick
type matchups or check the temperature of this team. They

(31:22):
still got it. And quick note on the Carter Knox.
Think there's a lot of brothers some in this tournament. Man,
there's a lot of guys to keep flash and that
he's related to him.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
This is the son of him. So kind of cool, No,
it is.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I always love the brothers. You have Phil Mark Telly
Junior out there coaching Bryant.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
They competed both Patino's winning a game first time in
NCAA tournament.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, now that they they really it is really cool.
I'll always like to see that. There is another one
that I'm forgetting.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now we got Jace Richardson, Jason Richardson out of Sawn
out of Michigan.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
State, Otaga oay on Kentucky. Is dafe Oa on the
Ravens defensive end. Really good player. It's his brother. There's
another one too that I'm forgetting. That's not even the
one that I was searching for, but yeah, that always
you always find out stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
In JT Topping, really good player on text tech. Not
related to Obi toppin oh all right, not related.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, you would think like forward, kind of similar size,
kind of similar games, a little bit, and there's another.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
There's another it's Obie Jacob Topp and he who is
on the Knicks too. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I assume
that was the part of the top and family there.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I looked it up to make sure before I set
it on air, and then I was not correct. That's
like two weeks ago and I said Duke john Shires
made a Final four. I totally had wiped out in
my head that they lost to NC State in the
Elite eight. That's right out the Final four, so that
John Shires not made a Final four.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Fun fact.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
But next game on the board five fifteen, A team
that I faded in round one I was not impressed
with in round one. Yet they won, and yet I'm
betting them is Michigan A. Michigan Texas A and MS
Texas A and M's a three and a half point favorite.
I am not high on the Texas A and M team.
Yale I thought was really disappointing. She could not make

(33:11):
their shots. Same thing with UC San Diego. But I
do think you look at the bigs for Michigan and
those bigs are just gonna give teams trouble in these
kind of situations where you're having to prepare for another
team after playing another two days before. I think Michigan
wins this game and wins the game close. I generally
like to fade teams that have a knack for winning
close games, and I think that there's going to be

(33:31):
a reverse there.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
But I think they have an act to win close games.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I think Dusty may is the far better coach than
Buzz Williams. I kind of am going against my own
beliefs and those type of stats, but I do think
that they they're in close games every single game plus
three and a half.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
I'll gladly take there for Michigan.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, this is probably the game I would throw at
the top of my list for the least interest here
that I'm not as fired up for, But I do
lean Michigan. It's fascinating the way they run the pick
and roll with the two seven footers man Danny Wolf
is incredible, Like what a unique basketball player, and it's
gonna be really interesting if he tries to make it
work at the next level and what that looks like.
But for the short term here, I do think Michigan

(34:11):
like they have a more distinct style where I know
what I'm getting a little bit more than I feel
about A and M kind of feel just bla about
them as a team that I'm They're fine, they're good,
they're talented, they have they do lock in defensively for
stretches there. But I think there's a higher ceiling with Michigan,
and I think that they've played at a decent level
thus far, so lean in that direction. But this is
the game that I would slip near the bottom of
my ranking the priorities to watch.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I mean, I think that this kind of this
stack kind of goes with what you just said there.
But over the last month Texas, A and M's two
and five or now three and five and thirty first
in Bartrovic with the number forty six offense the number
forty two defense.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
That's a team of that in identity.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
If you're outside the top forty in both, I think
that shows that you're you're kind of nothing to nobody.
It's yeah, I'm on Michigan. I think Michigan has an identity.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
With those two bigs. Yeah, at the very least are
really tough to stop. So uh, let's flip it around
and let's go to the next game.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Here that is at six ten. I believe yep, let
me get yeah six' ten Year Drake Texas Tech Texas.
Tech this line's jumped up and down down to six
and a. Half text text favored this to. ME i
did not walk out of That drake game necessarily feeling
great About. Drake they exactly WHAT i was kind of
worried about With drake happ and they kept it. Close

(35:28):
they never pulled. Away they dominated the whole, game but
they were only up six And missouri brings it to
within one with six minutes to, go and they benched
their best player for four minutes and then they're down
eight by the time the best player comes back in
because he got his fourth. Foul you found him out
of the game as the head coach by putting him
on the.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Bench and it's happened a couple times in this.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Tournament the way coaches deal with foul trouble will never
ever make.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Sense one of my biggest pet peeves, because, like, seriously
just talk through, This LIKE i obviously we understand what
you're working against that you don't want your guy to
foul out because then you can't have, them but taking
them off the floor is basically punishing yourself in this,
situation and every single player is different for how you
should handle. This, obviously when you have rim protectors and
guys like, that they're at higher risk for, fouls and
you know how the game is being.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Called all these things are.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Factors but the fact that so many coaches it's just
automatic cause and effect that this guy gets a second,
foul this guy gets a third foul and we got
to take him. OUT i just feel as fundamentally wrong
THAT i think you punish, yourself you put your team
in harm's way when that. Happens if you're just going
by that, PLAYBOOK i think it was already paid the
price for. It they should have won that. Game they
had every chance, to AND i don't think they executed
down the. Stretch So i'm with. You that is one

(36:34):
of my biggest pet peeves THAT i rage about on
like every couple of weeks that this tends to spark.
Up it happened to THE nba, Too it's every, level but,
yeah you just got to be a little bit more.
Creative Doc rivers was brutal with that that that was
an automatic for. Him so that's certainly something THAT i
get quite fired up About.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
You, know who actually pointed that out to me for
the first.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
TIME i THINK i at times you get mad about
how it got.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Handled the first person who, ever really he had like.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
A great quote on it and gave a full thing
about it Was Chris, finch Timber row's.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Coach it was like his first year, there so that's
probably like three or four years, ago.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
And he talked about, it AND i was, Like i'm
such an idiot for never not thinking about it like
that before and ever since Now i'm like so hyper
focused on it and so thinking about it to the
point WHERE i don't even know if you should ever
really get benched for foul, Trouble LIKE i think it
should just be you, know it's on you to figure it,
out and if you fell, out you fell out at
least for not taking out of the game on our own.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Accord do you see What finch did last? Night by the, Way,
no it's very cool story. Here So Joe ingles his
OH i did see this, actually?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah Joe ingles quite open about it that he's got
a couple kids with high functioning autism there that have
some pretty severe limitations on kind of their day to
day life that until this, week his son and daughter
had never been able to go see him in a
basketball game in person because of sensory overload that they
kind of couldn't handle the arena there for the first
time this week that his family came was in. Attendance
we were able to watch that, game But Joe ingles

(37:58):
did not play at. All that he did not crack
the right tation he typically doesn't for The timberwolves at
this stage in his.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Career he is probably like thirty eight at this.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Point but then he comes back his family and attendance
again last, night And Chris finch Started Joe, ingles so
his kids got to see him run out of, there
be with the team and actually play on the, court
WHICH i think is a very, cool superclass act move
By finch. There great, dude by the, WAY i saw
him In vegas WHILE i was out there In Summer league.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Too that dude. Rules he's the.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Man that's awesome to. Hear, YEAH i, mean that's so,
cool ye For Joe.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Ingles And i've got a nephew with, autism and you,
know obviously when you have it in your, life you
think about those things a. Lot more and it becomes you,
know it's all over your social media because you, send you,
know things to your family and so stuff like, that
you know absolutely melts and warms your heart really really.
Awesome so good On Chris, finch good On Joe, ingles

(38:48):
awesome stuff there all, around with no with no kind
of segue, HERE i will, say let's go to the
game THAT i know you're excited to talk.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
About and it's one of the. GAMES i don't have
a bet on seven.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Ten i've got a fun little inside baseball for the
people out. Here i've got my little brother staying with
me this weekend For March. Madness he's he's a casual,
fan but he Loves March madness and he gets super into.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
It he actually started twenty and, one wow in his.
Bracket look at.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
That so the only game that he lost in his
first twenty one Was, clemson who he did have going
to the final, four so it did hurt. Him, yesterday
he took some. Else he had some tough. Losses but
he's Got auburn winning it. All he's Got auburn cutting
down the. Nets and he's sitting here off to the,
side sitting with my.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Dog listening.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
IN i think he's going to be upset about What
Sean bernard's about to tell.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Him, YEAH i think you will as. WELL i do
lean towards That auburn survives, this BUT i think they
get a. SCARE i love the plus eight and a
half in favor Of. CREIGHTON i Think kalkbrenner is an
awesome contrast to go Against Johnny broom there and in pretty,
fascinating like different style that there's a three inch and
six inch wingspan advantage in favor Of kalkbrenner, there but
obviously there's much more strength and just kind of more
mobility For Johnny broom, there a guy who's held his

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weight all. Season very excellent basketball. Player my biggest thing
And i've been saying this for weeks With auburn at this,
point it's so madding to me how they seem to
go through stretches of every game where they just like
forget how to execute and make stupid decisions with the
ball the way they Found, Yeah Chad Baker massar is
the number one culprit with. This there's no doubt about,
this and he's twenty five years, old still doing these
things for what it's worth That Luka doncic is younger

(40:23):
than him and doing what he's doing at THE nba.
Level it's insane stuff. There BUT i like This creton.
TEAM i thought they played very. Well was very impressed
with how they looked in the first. ROUND i Had
louisville making a decent run in this tournament and really
bummed that that was the first round. Matchup cool that
it was the first game of the tournament to see
that tip. Off BUT i Thought creighton did exactly what
they came in to, do and it wouldn't shock me
if they do the exact same thing. Today So Steven

(40:43):
ashworth the real, deal a guy that will knock down
every single free throw in. Existence can get hot from downtown.
THERE i like This creton. TEAM i think it's gonna
be a battle between them And auburn.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Today another old guy there At, Ashworth ashwort And culbretner
both have to be twenty three twenty.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Four Full kid was sitting in the crowd watch him.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
PLAY i mean it was still, baby it was still,
baby but, like, yeah ash had a woful kid watched him.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Play that's, Crazy, yeah that's. CRAZY i lean over an
eight and a half.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
HERE i do like that the line has fallen a
little bit because it actually opened ten and a half
and everybody loves. CREATING i do think there might be
a chance that this is our like overreaction game from
the first. Round Maybe louisville was worse than we. Thought
maybe they were a little bit cooked coming in making
a deep run in the A sec. Tournament obviously acc

(41:32):
didn't do well in, general but and Maybe creighton just
had a you, know a great shooting, day and you
get off to that early start and you keep them
at length the whole. GAME i actually don't think that's
necessarily the. Case but if you're making me make a
playould Go. AUBURN i think they win the. Game and
As Big cat would, say spreads don't. Matter so whoever
you think when the game just picked them to? Cover,

(41:53):
probably BUT i, yeah this one's ONE i won't touch
for the ten foot. Poll from a gambling, Standpoint i'll
be rooting for An i've got him in the final.
Four But creighton's been a Team i've been high on for.
Years i've always loved these creaton teams With kalkbrenner would
not be shocked at, all say if they put a
scare In.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Auburn by the, WAY i don't EVEN Thinkaallk prenner played
that well in the opening, round AND i think that
to me is encouraging from A creighton. Perspective we'll give
a shout out To jeremiah Neil man thirty nine minutes
in the opening, round twenty nine, points twelve, rebounds six,
assists shout eleven of sixteen from the.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Field he was.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Excellent he was everywhere and some like the creation ability
WHICH i was unfamiliar with your, Game, Jeremiah so shout
out to him for kind of a breakout. Performance he's
already been on the. Map he's been a guy that's
been performing at a high level all, season but that
was by far the best That i've seen him. Play
and obviously performing your best when the lights of the
brightest is an important in quality in a basketball, player,
though shout so shout out to. Him that is somebody

(42:43):
that if You're auburn you got to have circled on
your scattering report.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Today, YEAH i, mean he's definitely a guy who was
supposed to be a role player coming into the, year
and you kind of look at the first eight games
when they Had Pop, isaacs he was really going to
be kind of the fourth fifth guy. There Pop isaacs
was going to arguably be their, score their lead guy.
There eight games he averaged you average sixteen to four
and sixteen five and four.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
There Pop Isaacs.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Texas tech At Texas tech transfer over there To, creighton
and then he got. Hurt he's out for the year
and they're missing probably their most talented.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Guy so they are really relying On klkbrenner And ashworth
all year.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Long the Way neil has stepped up down the stretch
does give them that third guy to kind of get
If klkbrenner Or ashworth has a down, game because they
really don't have much outside of. That that's kind of
what scares me with This auburn. Matchup auburn's just so,
deep so many dudes to throw at you talent.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Wise but mcdermot's not gonna get out coached.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Here this IS i think an even coaching matchup two
really good coaches With pearl and. McDermott so can't wait
to watch that. One that's gonna be a lot of
fun over there ON TVs at seven forty five B Yu.
Wisconsin another Game i'm staying away FROM i WOULD.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
I want to Bet. WISCONSIN i might end up Betting.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
WISCONSIN i picked them in the, bracket BUT i didn't
love how they looked Against. MONTANA A montana, team WHO
i get, it they were still they might have covered
still to be, honest BUT i just Thought wisconsin didn't
pull away for like thirty, minutes and from all the
METRICS i was looking At, montana it's.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Terrible SO i was expecting.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Mantis team in the, country, right huh the luckiest team
in the, country right or something like.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
That, yeah, yeah luckiest team in the.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Country they were worse than all the fifteens On Ken
palm and they were.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Fourteen they were worse than one of the.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Sixteens SO i don't know how they got a fourteen with,
that with that.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Resume But wisconsin didn't really blow them out at. All,
SO i mean they did, eventually but they just didn't
pull away the way you.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Want you would want to see a team that you're
like hopeful has, legit you, know aspirations B.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yu the REASON i don't.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Want to bet this game IS i really just think
this is just LIKE i, mean you could say this
about betting THE nba, now but you're just betting on
what team's gonna shoot better from, Three like both these
teams are gonna shoot a lot of. Threes one of
them is probably gonna shoot forty five, percent one of
them is probably gonna shoot thirty. Percent like just in
terms of like, variants whoever shoots the better percentage from
three wins this.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Game, yeah AND i think we can say that about
a lot of these. Games like Even oregon was convincingly
won Against, liberty but If liberty hit some of those three,
pointers we have a. Game LIKE i was On liberty
for that, game so watching throughout kind of keeping track
of that they're shooting fourteen percent from three for most
of that, Game you're just not gonna. Win same with
The michigan, game to be, Honest Like michigan.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
The one Thing i'll point out like the difference there,
Though Like oregon was up in nineteen to two, early
Like San diego even with all of the, misshots somehow
lost by three and like.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Kept it right there the whole game but never made.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Shots, yeah AND i GUESS i like the process of.
RESULTS i GUESS i, say LIKE i Think, liberty if
you watch the tape on that. Game they're not mad
about the looks that they created for a lot large
ports in that, game and particularly early, on like when
they jumped out of the eighteen to two, leads there
were three straight three pointers that were open, looks good
looks that if we're talking about making those and then,
like you, know you're not winning That oregon obviously. One
BUT i guess my point, still you know it's a

(46:08):
make or miss, league and our maker miss sport at this.
Point so the three point variance does tell the story
and we're kind of seeing that more than ever That
LIKE i think WHEN i was sort of searching for
my like upset, picks that was something THAT i paid
close attention, to is what is the volume of three point?
Opportunity how good of a three point shooting team is?
This because if you do get one of those runs
where a team catches red, hot you can just straight
up take over a. Game and we haven't really seen

(46:30):
that as much AS i expect to be the, case
but certainly applies for this.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Game, yeah, no for, sure.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
This is this is like the purest of Those i'd
say like, that if you're looking at all the second
round matchups like if you just made me, say like
which game is the most directly tied to just who
hits more, threes it's that. One and then now That
i'm Seeing, Illinois kentucky's pretty tied to whoever hits more
threes tomorrow as.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Well but that's a fun. One by the, way we'll
get to.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
That that's where we're gonna talk more about The sunday
games in the second, hour but THAT i don't know
how you bet that, Game but eight forty a game
THAT i do know how you.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Bet oh, yeah and it.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Wasn't my MY i think my favorite BET's still at nine.
Forty But i'm talking myself into this being my favorite
bet at eight.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Forty Gimme.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
HOUSTON i got it at four and a half Against.
Gonzaga also threw it in That Saint John's Saint John's
houston moneyline Parlay.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Gonzag i've heard a lot about how.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Good gonzaga's metrics, are you, know eight And Ken, Palm
Tempton bartrovic and all this.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Stuff you know who else that's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Metrics who's? That, houston The, kooks The.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Houston, cougars they got pretty damn good metric that's deepense
of the, country while being the best three points shooting,
team while being like a team that doesn't turn the ball,
over while being a team that also shoots really good
from free, throw while.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Being a team that shoots a lot.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Of free, throws a little bit like they just do
everything on the basketball floor that you would want a
contender to. DO i have never felt this confident in
a team to go and win the championship going Into,
march AND i feel that way About. Houston AND i
have all these people telling Me gonzaga is gonna win.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Today it's crazy to.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Me this is A gonzaga team that is three and
five against tournament, Teams houston eleven and three against tournament,
teams eight more wins with two less losses against tournament
teams there For. Houston SO i feel like In zaga's
metrics are getting a lot of credit for Beating San

(48:32):
Diego state and Like indiana and these teams that didn't
make the, Tournament, like, yeah they did a good job
with teams on the, bubble for, sure they Beat San
francisco And Santa, clara who are like respectable, teams but
not even bubble.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Teams, really LIKE.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
I just think they're getting a lot of credit for
being that mid to up mid to Upper quad two
tier almost or like maybe even lowest Of quad.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
One those teams Aren't, Houston Nobody.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Houston, yeah And houston has not been getting enough love
for their three point. Shooting it's kind of crazy when
talking about, This, like as you, mentioned until you pointed
that out in our group, chat that they are the
best three point shooting team in this. TOURNAMENT i was
unaware of that. THAT i think of them as a
defensive minded, team and they. Are they absolutely are that
caliber of. DEFENSE i would say the best in the.
COUNTRY i Think Saint john's give them a. Run tennessee
very good defense as. Well there's other teams in that same.

(49:21):
Mix but the fact that you can do both is
so appealing as a basketball. TEAM i Think houston rolls.
TONIGHT i love the minus four and a. HALF i
even think it's worth playing the minus nine and a
half on a plus one twenty alternate or plus one
seventy alternate line.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
There this is not The gonzaga.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
TEAM i think that we're getting a little bit of
a love for the name brand. Here Jalen suggs and
walking through that locker, Room Chet holmgren to walking through
that locker. Room this is not one of the Best
gonzaga teams that we've. Seen they're a good basketball, team
a high quality, team but they're Not. HOUSTON i do
think The cougar's take care of business and do so
relatively easily.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Tonight, Yeah AND i think LIKE i could easily sit
here and be the Because i've been so high On
houston all year AND i, said no matter what the bracket,
was they were gonna win. Whatever BUT i can easily
sit here and be like they're getting. SCREWED i Think
gonzaga is a great eighteenth and you know, what Like
kenzaga should probably be a.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Six they should probably be a, six maybe a.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Seven but people making it seem like this is like
the worst injustice and seeding.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
History guess. What they went three and five against tournament.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Teams and that's with the tournament when they just had
so they were two and five going into the tournament
against tournament. Teams they lost twice to A Saint mary's
team THAT i don't think is all that. Good they
beat them once in the conference championship in a close,
game like the rest of their stuff is in the
non Con, LIKE i don't care about how Good gonzaga's metrics.
Are they're always. Good they make The Sweet sixteen all the.

(50:40):
TIME i get. IT i, like like you just, SAID
i don't think this Is. TIMMY i don't think this is.
YET i don't think this Is Jalen. Suggs LIKE i Love.
NEMHART i Think nemart is really great point, guard one
of the best point, guards probably the second best point
guard in the.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Country BUT i don't think the rest of that roster
is all that.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Good SO i really really Like houston and long the
closer we get to the, game Then i'm just gonna
get more confident In. Houston it's just, like what is the, Weakness,
like what is the thing you attack With? Houston what
is the Thing you're, like that's what it is that's
going to hold them back from doing? That BECAUSE i
haven't found. IT i think every other team you can find.

(51:17):
IT i don't THINK i know what it is With.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
Houston, YEAH i don't have a great answer for that.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
EITHER i, MEAN i, LIKE i think their metrics always
stand out more than kind of my eye test for.
Them offensively, SPEAKING i would say so maybe you can
kind of talk yourself into that you're gonna need a
bad shooting game or something along those. Lines at the
bottom line is they are that good That houston is
the real deal. Here SO i don't see it. EITHER
i don't think they have any trouble With, gonzaga And
i'm with you THAT i think they deserve to be

(51:41):
the tournament favorites at this point in the. GAME i
don't think that's how things will shake, out AND i
think we get another couple more rounds until we're even
having those kind of. Discussions But i'm all in on
The Houston cougar's experience with D Mark Henry junior and
all these.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Like they're they're top fifteen and three point percentage. ALLOWED i,
guess like the only metric you could really say that
you know that they aren't a lead at is they
allow a lot of free, Throws they foul a good,
bit and they they.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Offense they allow offensive rebounds at a good.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Bit but they're also like one of the best offensive
rebounding teams in the. Field SO i Can zaga's metrics
are good, too BUT i feel Like houston's just kind
of better at all the Things gonzaga wants to do.
SO i Love houston there at nine forty though comes
my best that of the of the, ROUND i, think
or maybe not the, round maybe just TODAY ucla plus

(52:32):
five and a half wearing it on my, shirt shout
Out Russell westbrook.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
HERE i love how you See la.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Looked And i'm kind of mad at myself for not
being louder and more vocal From sunday To thursday about
just believing blindly And Mick cronin BECAUSE i don't think
this team is that. SPECIAL i don't think it's that
it's Not Heimi hawkes out there And Johnny.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Juzang and who was the, Man.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Tiger, campbell the point guard with the crazy, Hair and
they had a big on that team, too.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
That Was bona on that.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Team, Yeah bono.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Was bona was on that, TEAM i. Think and they
had another.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Guy, Yeah bona had a big injury going to that
One march AND i think he ends up.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Playing but it was like a big.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Storyline and they had another big on that team WHO
i think was pretty good as.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Well this is not that.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Team they're not that talented of the, team but they
have a lot of guys who can step up and
do their, role and they have a lot of guys
like they. Don't, again there are another one of those.
Examples LIKE i said, Earlier i'm gravitating towards the team
that maybe doesn't have the guy averaging twenty. Game but
you Have billideau averaging fourteen a, game you Have daily
averaging twelve a. Game you have Mac Sebastian mack who

(53:40):
can really take over at ten points per.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Game, clark who one of the better Passers i've.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Seen he only had guess three arcist a, game but
he had some passes in That Utah state, game unbelievable
entry passes from Sky. Clark he can really set up
the rest of the. Offense Kobe johnson got hot from
deep in that. GAME i Thought dylan And andrews played
well in that game Against Utah.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
State he got eight.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Assists, Yeah Dylan andrews had eight assists in that. Game
they just have a lot of guards who can do
a lot of. Things like do they have the guard
who can take over the game at all, Times, no
but they have a lot of guys who can fill.
In and you know they have eight guys over six
and a half points per. Game AND i actually they're
Big mahra who only a Day mara played twenty minutes
in that. GAME i thought he was a big impact

(54:24):
Against Utah state ten, points six, rebounds five blocks, there
and he only played twelve minutes per game throughout the,
year but he was a guy who really stepped. Up
he's really they're only big man on the. Roster SO
i think he's gonna get some run here Against. Tennessee
and he really impressed me in that. Game AND i
just want to say my mickheads stand.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
UP i am.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
OFFICIALLY i know some people in the group chat might
Think i'm something that that rhymes with, that But i'm A.
MICKHEAD i am A Mick cronin. Supporter If villanova Hires Mick,
CRONIN i will Reach villanova fandoms unheard of in my
lifetime since we Had nishamani, Legend Ryan arch AT I
yakano lead in the.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Way that's My villanova era BECAUSE i went Into.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Shaanity for those who don't, KNOW i Interviewed ryan arch
when he was in The shamany the best player in
The Shamie High school, history and he's fun.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
FACT i Think i've said this before but he told.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
ME i asked, him you know where he want to
be in five, years ten, years some dumb fourteen year old,
question sixteen year old, question and he answered, LIKE i don't,
know hopefully making a living playing. Basketball maybe In, italy
maybe In. China and it's he's been in THE nba
until this. YEAR i don't think HE'S i don't think
he's caught on anywhere this. Year but he was on
The knicks up until last, season so made a hell

(55:37):
of a living in THE. Nba Ryan arch just a
little shout out To Ryan arch, There but that Was
that was my era WHEN i was truly A villanova.
Fan Since jay, Retired i've dropped off. Completely the Post
arch era With JAY i was still in BECAUSE i
Love Jay. RAY i think he's the best living basketball
coach on the. PLANET i think he like cracked the

(55:58):
code on college basketball to get to the point where
it's like you run a slow, offense but you shoot
a ton of. THREES i kind of love That nova
crack the code. There but, Anyway Mick, cronin Save villanova.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Basketball. Please on that, NOTE i didn't realize it was
twelve or.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
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Speaker 5 (56:50):
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Speaker 4 (56:52):
Touching we just covered The saturday games for the round
of thirty. Two they are kicking off right now with
McNeice And. Purdue let's kick it over To sunday because
we got eight more games coming right behind these On
sunday to get to The sweet. Sixteen And sunday starts
at twelve ten WITH i think an incredibly interesting game

(57:17):
that a lot of, people all the experts that want
to sound, smart and they maybe they'll look smart tomorrow
after twelve.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Ten, Oh yuka doesn't have a. Chance if you Think
yukon has a, chance you are.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
CASUAL i just gotta tell, YOU i think coaching, matters
AND i Thought yukon down the stretch of That oklahoma
game showed what they showed their championship. Medal Alex, caravan
who's been, there done, that stepped up and made plays
on both ends of the. Floor Danny, HURLEY i, thought
really out Coached Porter mooser in that. Game and now

(57:50):
you get a matchup with A florida team that's incredibly.
Talented But Todd golden just won his FIRST ncaa tournament.
GAME i think that's gonna. Matter and a matchup With Danny,
HURLEY i love you complus nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
YEAH i do as, Well AND i do Think yukon
is a live dog in this. One i'm not taking
them out. RIGHT i Think florida probably has a little
bit too much when everything is all said and done
from a talent perspective there and are playing good ball
at this point in the.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Year BUT i do think coaching does.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
MATTER i do think experience does, matter AND i think
This yukon team is just not going to roll over.
Man this team will bring their best punch that they
are going to compete and nine and a half is
more THAN i would have guessed on the line. There
so IF i was setting THIS i would have guessed
more of kind of the six and a half seven
and a. HALF i Understand florida has been viewed as
this unstoppable force by a lot of, people and you,
know the talent speaks for itself with how well that
they are. Playing BUT i think Yu kon has a chance,

(58:34):
outright AND i do think plus nine and a half
is the play for this.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
One then you got on the next, one you got
two forty And i'll kick it over to you to
kick us off Here Baylor, Duke duke eleven and a
half point. FAVORITE i just REALIZED i had typos in
My picksweet for the. Day got to fix that for the.
People But duke.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Eleven and a, HALF i don't have a play on
a side? Here where are you?

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Going yeah against My Baylor, bears WHO i unfortunately don't
think can hang with, You, duke BUT i would love
to take them at the plus eleven and a half.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
Here this will be a fun.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Game there's gonna be a ton OF nba talent on
this court, here obviously With duke that you're gonna have
the three first round. Picks With cooper flag headlining, thing Common,
malawak who's terrific as the big man Option Kan kannuppel
who's been knocking down three pointers at a ridiculous right.
There and then on the other side of things With
baylor Vj edgecomb also gonna be a top five, pick
And Rob Right junior Or Rob right the THIRD i
believe coming out of the beautiful city Of philadelphia There

(59:25):
spent went To, Newman garetti went to monteverd and kind
of has bounced around a little, bit but he is
here his freshman. Year baylor played awesome in the first round,
there SO i could see things breaking right where this
becomes a potential game. HERE i Think baylor is a
higher caliber of talent than they've actually played on the
floor for the whole larger part of the. Season BUT
i fortunately there's just a little bit too much With.
Duke so my honest prediction on this game is it

(59:46):
ends up pretty close for probably the first a little
bit past, halftime maybe first seventy five percent of the,
game and Then duke blows things open at the end.
Here BUT i think it's gonna be a fun game
to watch for.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Sure, YEAH i Think duke it's just really impressed, me,
obviously he's a tournament without flag and then first round.
Game you, Know i'm not going to take too much
away from BUT i think they, are you, know a
team that could just go on A yukon like run
and dominate their way at least to the final. Four we'll,
see BUT i would lean them in this. Game BUT

(01:00:20):
i think and the bet on this game kind of makes.
Me WHAT i just said about do potentially blowing them
out kind of hurts my bet on this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Game BUT i leaned towards the over at one forty
three and a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
HALF i had the over at a similar number Agains
Mississippi State Baylor Mississi state over one forty four that
cashed rather.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Easily so, Yeah i'll go with the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Over not a confident, play BUT i lean towards that
over one forty three and a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Half you have any thoughts ON Vj, Edgecomb i've kind
of hyped them up a little. Bit not sticking for,
you not one of your guys just.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Yet he's so, young right that obviously the potential.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Is obvious six or five. Guards so he's got like
the size.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
That that you, like he was the number four guy
in the in the, nation you, know thirty four percent from,
three and you know he shot seventy eight percent from free.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Throw he's. GOOD i he hasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Like jumped off as you, know like a top five
pick to me, Necessarily LIKE i would Take jakasunas over
over edgecumb for.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
SURE i think he's ranked.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Higher, NA i don't think, SO i certainly would. NOT
i would take edgecomb over Jack Unit Jackie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Unis jockshunas just does so much more than he does
on the, floor and he's got the height as, well
AND i think he's a far better passer and kind
of court vision. Guy uh BUT i, yeah we're gonna
talk About yacatuna's in a. Second but, YEAH i Mean
yakshunis was, awesome yeah in that game.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Yesterday but both definitely top ten guys for.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
Sure, yeah, YEAH i would Go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yaknas But i'm trying to, think, like IF i have
to pull up the draft, Here i'm not fully in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
There SO i pulled up A nba draft Dot net actually,
earlier SO i have here A.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Vj's four right in front Of.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Yackastunas, yeah, yeah they're right in that same mix.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
There i'll just say, this when you're watching, tomorrow AND
i know this isn't one of your guys, either but
squint your eyes and see a little bit Of Anthony
edwards in his.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
GAME i, mean if He's Anthony, edwards that's pretty that's pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Amazing so even If anthony not one of my, guys
that's that'd be a great outcome FOR. Vj my issue
with and has when people try to make him like
the face of the league with the best player in
the world that he's not in like the level of
the top, five top six, guys but he's top, ten
top fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Guy what do you what's your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
ON i like, HIM i don't love him LIKE I
i think He's he's obviously a great, shooter a guy
that has shown a little bit of ability like off,
this off, screens off, movement things like. THAT i don't
know IF i see much more than him doing. That,
so like when you think about that type of duke
guard like THE Jj, reddick the or the you, Know Grayson,
allen even LIKE i think he can fit one of,
these he can be legitimate floor. SPACER i don't see

(01:03:01):
as much upside as far as creation taking guys off
the dribbler that much so not one of my, guys
BUT i do think he'll be a completely serviceable first round.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Pick what do you THINK a guy THAT i like,
actually AND i was pretty impressed with yesterday and he's
tryk like. Seventeenth he was a lottery guy earlier on
in the, Year liam. McNeely, YEAH i Think liam mcneely's
a guy WHO i think fits in at the next.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
LEVEL i.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
AGREE i didn't realize what a pedigree guy this guy,
is either that he's BEEN i believe Monta verde or
one of the big feeder programs that he went to,
there like the star studed roster that he played next.
Year this has been a guy that has been on
the map as a top basketball recruit for the entirety
of his. Life AND i didn't realize that he fit
into like that box as a. Player really impressed with,
him like he kind of just finds a way to
do everything over the course of the, game super, involved can,

(01:03:44):
play make a little good, rebounder plays with a pretty
like physically commanding, presence which you wouldn't guess by looking
at him. There SO i Like leam. McNeely i'm in
agreement with you THAT i think when projecting. Forward he
is a guy that plays at THE nba level and
it's gonna be a huge part of however long yukon.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Last So i'm looking at it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Here for, me if i'm ranking the draft just top
of my head right, now flag is like a clear one.
One harper And bailey are two and, three whichever way
you want.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
To believe us in this. Tournament either, man it's.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Crazy Steve piker should be fired right. Now it's it's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
JOKE i would Go bailey for like The, sixers Like
i've said a long, Time LIKE i THINK i have
a couple of friends who are really passionate About harper
being like a you know real my one, friend he's
gonna be Like James. Harden so people, love love Love Dylan,
harper AND i get. It BUT i just, think if
you're The, sixers you Have maxia and McCain And Quentin

(01:04:37):
grimes for that, matter potentially so hopefully So bailey seems
to make a lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Sense AND i won't say too much, here But i'll
Just i'll leave it At i've heard through the grape
Grapevine Ace bailey the significantly easier out of the two
to deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Really, Yeah, okay, Interesting, YEAH i haven't heard.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
THAT i was surprised by that as, well but, yes, YEAH.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
I didn't know. That that's that's interesting to know for.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Me four and five, clearly to, me my two favorite
guys outside of those three Are yakashunas And Trey. Johnson
Trey johnson's a Guy i've fallen in love, with and you,
know it's he's probably like it's probably.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Like the part of me that fell in love With Cam.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
THOMAS i, guess, yeah not that they're that, similar BUT
i LOVE i Think Trey johnson is one of the
guys who has a chance to, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I'm trying to think the right calm a Little.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Devin book, like LIKE i don't, think BUT i hear. You,
Yeah LIKE i think he's got a crazy high. Ceiling,
yeah and he's got good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Size he's like real deal six, five got some, length
so it's not like you're kind of boxed into him
being a full time guard.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
THERE i Like Trey.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Johnson it's disappointed that they weren't able to escape that
first four and at least have a little bit more
tournament time. There that's a guy THAT i THINK i
will have absolutely in my top. FIVE i still would
stick up For Edge comb above both those. Guys to
be perfectly, HONEST i probably would put him in that.
Round we'll see when we get ultimately to crunch the
numbers and see what these full ranking. Stanmd BUT i
Like Tredy johnson, too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
And malawak's like like a clinging type, prospect like you
know what you're.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
GETTING i think he's a little more than.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
That i'll say that he started to shoot three is
now at like a pretty legitimate. RATE i KNOW i
said this last, week but it's fascinating to, me like
he's still figuring out how good at basketball he. Is
he's one of these guys, that's you, know a late,
bloomer just started picking up the. Sportly but it feels
like every game like he kind of adds something or
figures something out in a little way That i'm really intrigued.
By so he's real deal seven foot. Two he can

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definitely do the basic skills kind of center, stuff but
he's got legitimate touch man like that. JUMPER i do
think in the long haul is going to play. Forever
So i'm very intrigued by.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Him so, yeah for, ME i Think If i'm, JUST
i would Say, Jocky schirns And trey are four or,
five and then in some Order malawac and Edge combe
would be six and. Seven, yeah a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Guy WHO i already SAID i like McNeely a.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Lot another guy Who i'm bullish on when it comes
to the tournament when it comes to the draft from
the Tournament Isace. RICHARDSON i Think Jase richardson would probably
make my top. Ten the two guys Who i'm probably
not as high on in terms of the draft Is Jeremiah.
Fears Jeremiah FEARS i don't believe in a shot and

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as a, guard it's like The Scoot henderson, thing, like
who obviously has turned it around a little. Bit BUT
i JUST i find it hard to believe in these
guards who can't shoot.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
THREES i generally am going to be out on. It
and then a guy WHO i don't know If i'm
out But i'm not in Is Awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
Noule, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I'm not in On austin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
NOWELE i don't think he's going to be like A
i don't think he's got star.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
POTENTIAL i GUESS i.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Would agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
THAT i think the CEILING i also think The florida solid, Though,
LIKE i think he's going to be. Serviceable not my
guy THAT i would stick is Like i'm pumping this dude.
Up i'll say on The Jeremiah fears, CONVERSATION i hope
he catches it on AN nil deal and goes back
to school for another, year BECAUSE i do think if
we revisit this at this time next, YEAR i could
be hyping him up as a potential top five.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
Pick absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
There there is something legitimate to his creation ability and
like the burst that he has that kind of like
it was pretty fascinating the way he can just kind
of blow by, guys AND i think that is going
to play at THE nba. Level so the shot still
has to. Develop he's incredibly, Young he's still got a
lot of growing to. Do i'm not counting him. OUT
i think it would be early if he makes THIS
nba push this, year and it seems likely that is the.
Case still thing he ends up with the, Lottery BUT

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i think if he goes another, season we could be
talking about a potential top pick type of.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
Guy so we'll. See i'm not there, yet BUT i
do like him as a.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Talent, YEAH i Think this is one of the more
interesting drafts in recent.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Memory and you know the big reason for, that why
is that because THE G league ignite has.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Gone people aren't going to THE G league.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Anymore there's only two of the top three of the
top nineteen who are, international and it's the number, thirteen,
fourteen and eighteen. Guys there's only five of the top
six of the top thirty three that are. International we're
the guys we're watching right now this whole. Weekend are

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the guys who're gonna be talking about for the drafts
Besides Damn. Rucke BUT i it's it is. Us it's. Refreshing,
yeah it's refreshing to have these guys be stars at
the college level and now they're gonna go to the next.
Level there's some, freshmen there's some experienced. Guys BUT i
think it's gonna be one of the more fun drafts
to cover in a long. Time last, YEAR i don't

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THINK i covered the draft nearly as hard AS i
kind of took a little bit of a year off
from the.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
DRAFT i Think i'm. Back i'm back baby on the
draft this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Year but let's get back to The let's get back
to the thing at hand here talking about The sunday.
Games we touched on the first. Two but that was
Good Baylor. Duke IT'S i, mean that's how many prospects
that are going to go in the top.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Ten they're for ya flag my lock for.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Four, yeah definitely. FOUR i think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
FAIR i do Think Rob wright will end up being
a first round pick when everything's said and. DONE i
don't even see him on the mock right, now So
i'm curious about. That but potentially.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Five by the, way give Me procter as elite first, early,
second guy that's gonna make a name for himself in
THE nba and carve out a.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
Role that guy's AN nba. Player. Uh but at five.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Point, fifteen if you bet this, game you're a crazy.
Person in my, OPINION i have no idea this way
the way this game. Goes but WHAT i will, say
the winner of this GAME i think is going to
go to the. ELITE i Think Kentucky. Illinois this is
went From kentucky opening his two and a half point.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Favorite from WHAT i saw before the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
SHOW i haven't checked it since eleven Am illinois was
favored by one and a.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Half let's let's pull it up.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
While While i'm live And i'm seeing the Same, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
One and a.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Half what do you think? Here you're an Anti yakashunis,
guy but you're.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
ON i wouldn't Say i'm Anti Jacqui Unit Jackie units,
guy BUT i like. HIM i wanted him to be
one of my, guys AND i thought he disappeared for
a decent chunk of the second half of the, season
which was concerning and disappointing to be.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
There SO i wouldn't Say i'm. ANTI i do Lean
kentucky for this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Game it's not Something i'm hammering or say you should
be absolutely rushing to go bet right.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
NOW i think it's gonna be a toss.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
UP i think it's gonna be a blast of the
game in which these teams are getting up and, down
scoring a lot of. Points it's gonna be super entertaining
and looking at the, bracket as you, mentioned the winner
of this matchup will face the winner OF ucla And.
Tennessee so in agreement that either one of these teams
do beat that team. There SO i like The elite
eight take. THERE i do lean On kentucky getting the job.
Done i'm very intrigued by Ortega oway. MAN i think he's.

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Awesome i'm, like that's a guy that's a talent right
there THAT i think we'll have these same first round.
Conversations so do Lean kentucky BECAUSE i feel like there
is a little bit more pace that they play with
and they can kind of run them out of the
gym and the way That illinois can't quite with, them
although they're gonna put points, too so it's gonna be
a fun. Game i'm buckled up for either, side but
we'll probably be rooting on For kentucky.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
There and a note On illinois is just how Much
Will riley has exploded onto the scene the last six
games of the, year averaging nineteen a, game shooting over
fifty three percent from the. Field even if you stretch
it out, further over the last fourteen games of the,
year he's averaging seventeen, points five, rebounds four assists on

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forty nine point four percent from the field thirty six
percent from. Three this is a freshman who has really
really exploded.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
The Felt school IN. Pa where's that? At this guy's
A pa, Boy Will.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
RILEY i didn't know that six eight one ninety five
And i'm not seeing him on mock drafts, either but
a freshman six' five putting up what he's done recently At,
from illinois And now i'm seeing He's, From ONTARIO so
i don't know. WHAT that i don't know what's going
on with. This Guy But will riley absolutely stud who's
really Leveled. UP illinois i think early in the year

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it felt like Everything, was yakashunas AND then I think
yakashunas having the illnesses and getting sick and his injuries
the way that he had in the middle of, the
year Same With, thomas lavavisic their second. BEST player i
think it opened things up for the other guys on,
the Team Like, will riley to find roles and. Step
up so while they had an absolute brutal middle of,
their season it was weirdly due to like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Viral, Illness yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Like It's like i've never seen a season like railed
by the, flu BEFORE but i think that might have
Happened to illinois.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
This year i'm.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
PRETTY sure i think a bunch, of, yeah yeah there's
rumors THAT. Was, Mineo yeah it's it's, very Weird like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
I've never seen a team, like that but they showed
up In that, xavier GAME and i. Understand that, you
know it was a close game for a. LONG time
i think they only WON by i, don't know ten
eleven points or whatever It, was XAVIER and i feel
even more so after watching.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
That game xavier is. REALLY good i really.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Think that xavier team was, really Talented and illinois found
a way to, you know they it, got closed but
they handled it the. WHOLE game i really LIKE, the Aliinei,
but kentucky that offense when it, gets going ain't nothing.
Stopping it ain't nobody getting in the way Of that
kentucky offense when they wanted to be rolling.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
The way that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
It, can oh it's a big part, of that but
it's because they have what, they have seven guys averaging.
Double figures they just have dude after oh and, ONE
thing i, WILL say i feel bad picking, on kids
but now it's a little better because they, MAKE money
i guess, at least so you can crap on the
college athletes a little. BIT more i, will say let

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me get the. Right Name amari williams. Is terrible get
this guy off. The floor two, for eight he had
thirteen rebounds and. Four, assists somehow but, five points two.
For eight this guy was missing putbacks at the like
alone At, THE rim i averaged eleven points per game

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on fifty seven percent field.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Goals shooting i'm, just saying like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
The authorities need to check Into A mariy williams bank
statement and check into if he was trying to point
shave in a close Game With troy there not a
close game they won, by nineteen but close with. The
spread would it got to it like twelve and. A
half I Think mariy williams might have been point shaving in.
That game either that or he's HURT or i, don't
KNOW because i. CAN'T imagine i cannot comprehend how he's

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averaging eleven points a game on fifty seven percent shooting
after watching him go two for eight in, That game
i've never seen anything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Like it turn some rogier accusations on his head there
to close, things OUT but i will throw a bow On.
Will Riley The phelps school Is, IN, malvern pa so
shout out to her right right, around here and spent
the final two years of his high school, career there
so shout out. To him Also seeing ACCORDING to nba Draft,
dot net has climbed up to where are we at

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twenty sixth in the mock. Draft order so good, it
WAS and i think he's, earned it to, Be honest
so we'll be curious to see how that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
Finishes up. Go ahead my.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
Take is that that guy works his way into. THE
lottery i can see that six' eight.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Freshman coming on the way he has at the end,
of the year that guy's gonna work his way.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Into the lottery.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
That's, my take NOW the tankson i didn't, have him
anywhere so maybe that's, a CRAZY take but i do
think that guy's A riser and i think if they,
win this game he's going to be a big part of.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
The, reason why yeah and it is cool that we're
seeing like all the cards play out right in, front of,
us with like these guys have a chance to make a.
NAME for ourself i know we've said, this A lot
and i wholeheartedly. Fail this way if THERE was an
Ncaa Tournament in tyreease, maxi's draft year there is no
chance that dude would have dropped. To twenty one so
like we're kind of seeing now that opportunity that each
of these guys are grabbing hold of and guys aren't
making a, name for themselves so shout.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Out to Him same with quickly on. That, team too yeah,
by the way. IT'S very funny i know you're not
AS nerdy as i am, with college basketball but if
you listen to these college basketball Podcasts and anytime i'm
trying to think like An Example, of kevin willard it's
a good example, of A coach and i actually do,
This For him so I'm a bad i'm kind of

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making FUN of what i.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Do for somebody there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
Is about ten to fifteen coaches and teams that anytime
anything negative is, said about, them, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Like well they were gonna win it all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
In Twenty twenty and kentucky's on That list with, califari
for sure they deserve to be.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
On that list houston's On That. List Withkelvin samson kevin
willard had his Best Team.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
At seaton hall the Big. One is dayton they were
like the number three team. In the country they'll be
top in that year and the. Tournaments gets, canceled there's
like it's a, very funny thing but. There's ten fifteen
it feels like it grows by a couple. TEAMS every
year i think it used to be like Three teams
Like dayton in kentucky And maybe maybe duke or. Something

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like that like there's only like a couple teams that, could,
really say like we really could.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Have won it now that we're, five years removed there's about.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Fifteen to twenty, teams, they're like man we, were ap
eighteen like we could we could have made a run from.
The four sheet like it's kind, of a funny, a
funny thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
But it is one of those things like the longer,
time goes on you remember history. A little bit how
you want to this. Type OF thing Like I, saw
bryan scalabrini who's been on my timeline a lot lately.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
For whatever, reason he yeah so shout, OUT to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Him i guess but a quote from Him after the
celtics won the finals that, HE was like i think
the question the reporter, asked was like was it a
bummer to you to not actually play in the game
that you guys. Want or, whatever, he's, like look man
like a couple of, Years from now i'll be telling
MY kids that i played. A little bit then a
couple more years, They'll go by i'll be TELLING my.
Kids i started then a couple more, YEARS go by
i MEN tell them i was. Our Star players so,

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I'm ALL right and i kind of think that works in,
this situation too, that you know, as time, fades, you're
like well that could have. Been our year just the universe.
Took it away and, You know what i'm not gonna
fight guys.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
For, doing that no it. Could be worse it could.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Definitely, Be Worse hey quinton grimes could have he should
HAVE been at Cia. Champion at houston but the next
game on the Board Six' Ten. SAINT mary's alabama alabama
i think we're getting A discount here with alabama only
being a five and. A half Point favorite i lean
alabama minus. Five and a half instead, Of taking the
spread i'm gonna go ahead and take the team total

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over seventy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
SIX and A Half i know, SAINT mary's plays slow
i know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
They're good at defense alabama's scored seventy seven plus in
all but. Two games this season i'm gonna go ahead
and say they get there, even though you know however
good you want to tell me, That that defense Is i'm
gonna say bama gets enough points to put. ON the
board there i do like them minus five and, a
HALF as well but i like the team.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
TOTAL a little more.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
I like THE team total and i do like the minus.
FIVE and a half i think It was good for
alabamah to get this wake up call out Of The.
WAY with robert morris i think this will be a
much more clear and convincing Like this. Is WHO alabama
is and i don't know if we have, that question
fully answered as they have been one of the more
high variance team across off. College, BASKETBALL this year defensively i.
THINK they're Gonna Struggle i think saint mary's. WILL still
get theirs i don't think this game Will be like put,

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away PUT away throughout but i think the five and
a half is, a little bit light and then win
the dust. Settles in this game reach Is a conclusion
that alabama has built up a little, bit of lead
there so give me the minus. FIVE and a half
i do think their pace plays and they end up
speeding up the tempo To A level that saint mary's
is uncomfortable with and.

Speaker 6 (01:19:32):
Ultimately.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Unable of matching there so sign me up for minus
five and A half in favorite alabama and do agree
about the.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Team total as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
And then the next one on the board.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Here seven to ten i've GOT two straight that i.
Don't have plays On Seven To. Ten colorado state maryland maryland.
Is seven point favorite talked.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Earlier i'm A little worried about maryland in a little
bit of a back to back spot with just, having
your starting. Lineup your whole team reminds me of a
couple of creating teams from, a couple years past and
Especially mind through the creckon team That lost in The
Elite Eight, to SAN diego state and i think was
a Much Better Team than san diego state who eventually actually.
WENT to the championship I think that was creighton's year to,

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get to the championship and they.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
Were just too tired, they had five guys.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
They had no bench They won a, close sweet Sixteen
Game And the san diego state made.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
It A war in the elite eight.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
AND wore them down i always think ABOUT that game
when i, think about shallow teams and that game's coming.
To Mind, WITH me with maryland i don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
IT gets.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
THEM here i don't i think it would Get them,
in THE elite eight But i really think maryland wins
Today and, wins THE sweet sixteen AND i think that
i think you can Make a case that maryland was
the most impressive team of the first two. Days, of
the tournament.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Yeah there's definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
An Argument for that and, i'll just throw IN as we,
Name nba Draft guys nick Clifford Man out. Of colorado
state awesome that dude is awesome and going to be.
A first round pick he's. Played himself into that THAT
is guy that i think will cause some. Issues in
this game seven and a half feels a little bit
STRONG to Me That i think colorado state's gonna put.
Up a battle here this isn't gonna be a. Team
THAT rolls over And i don't think MARYLAND is, necessarily

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the i mean obviously in the first round they made,
a statement with, IT but in general i don't think
they're quite the blow teams out step on the next.
TYPE of thing that i think they're a good team.
That plays their brand, they hang in there and they
take out of business. When THEY have to if i had,
to make a play it probably would be in favor
of the plus, seven and A half just because i
think THIS stays close But i do think marylynd, ultimately
wins this GAME so not super i could see. IT

(01:21:28):
going EITHER way i think i am still in the plus,
seven AND a half. But i don't know if this
is A tough one one i'll probably Avoid.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
Seven Forty Five. Ole miss iowa STATE this is one i.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Have no read on if you, MAY make A Pick
i think iowa state also belongs on that list of
most impressive teams from the first two days because, there
was some skepticism not necessarily people being All, that high
on lipscomb but People Being worried About Iowa State. Missing
gilbert John gilbert Always get gilbert and lipsey mixed up,

(01:22:02):
in my Head. THERE but missing gilbert i think the
Answer To. That is iowa state it's been. Missing guys
all year it feels like it feels like they've had
a different guy in or.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
Out, Of, That, lineup jones lipsey gilbert all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Have MISSED some time so i think that they have
just found ways to win without some of those guys on.

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
The ON the court So I would lean iowa state here.
Getting the JOB done but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Five, I don't know yeah i, feel THE same way
and i WILL not like watching i always stay a
couple of videos and them came out in the locker room,
and leaving that game that looked like. A team focus
man that was probably LIKE the least celebration i. Saw
from any team that it was just kind of like.
An on a, mission we're locked in like we did
what we, were supposed to do and. Let's KEEP it
moving and i. WAS impressed by that i was skeptical
Of this team with gilbert out and kind of the

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lack of offensive creation that's been their problem, even at
full strength and the fact that you're adding that with
one of your best creators is. Certainly AN issue, there
but i mean they performed, in THE opening round and,
i do wonder if like in the, grand scheme of
things if we rolled them off a little bit sooner
than we should. Have BECAUSE of injuries so i think they.
Take care of business ended up winning this one. Pretty
convincingly As well old miss will put up a little,
bit OF a battle BUT i do, think i always stated,

(01:23:06):
Just straight up better so give me for the minus
four and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
In, favor of them well we're.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Gonna talk, about This next game but, i'm curious in
General How did the BIG twelve Do, Because I, Was
state texas tech houston. All made it through i'm trying,
to think otherwise here this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
IS not great radio i. Apologize to the people, arizona, makes.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
IT THROUGH yep d yu.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Byu makes. It through good call. BAYLOR makes it through.

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
I think. That might be it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
So, they, went undefeated yeah yeah that's not getting enough
Play if that's if.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
I'm, Not missing. Something, no kansas, lost oh.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
You're right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
You're right kansas lost so.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
They, did lose one team but still ultimately really successful
First Round. For the big twelve and one of my
takes coming into this Tournament Was that the big twelve
was being disrespected and that it wasn't that MUCH. Worse Than,
the sec Got Houston, you got Iowa State, you got
texas Tech you got AN arizona team that i might
not necessarily, be that HIGH, On, but, still byu baylor

(01:24:08):
like you got. A lot of teams there a lot
Of talent. In THE big twelve and i think a
theme of this, second round, could Be You know the.
Big twelve continuing on so let's move.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
On to eight forty this is a game that's got,
me a little. PERPLEXED a little perplexed. I have a
side i have a Play, ON the total okay i
don't have a. Play. On a Side Here We Got.
New mexico michigan? State is it? Crazy IS it insane?

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Am I you know am i out of Line For
suggesting that new mexico could could make some Some.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
TROUBLE here for sparty i don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
You ARE at all And i think Future Villanova head
coach richard patino has those toys playing THE right. Way
that i did hear some pretty encouraging yous from the
grape vine about That Shout out to dick girardi on
the show Right Before, This on sports, here there And
Everywhere saying that richard Patino has spoken to villanoia athletic
director and that there is at least. Some conversation underway
there so. Pretty interesting stuff there but the Bottom Line

(01:25:06):
Is this new mexico lobos team, is playing great ball
that they're doing, things the right way competing both. ENDS
at the floor i was really impressed with the way
that they looked. IN the first round i Think They
could give. MICHIGAN state a scare i think there's a
chance that they may End up being the cinderella.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Stor, THIS entire tournament yeah i.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
DON'T think it's crazy i don't have The Courage to
put new. MEXICO on the, board, I don't THINK okay
but what i do have the courage to put. ON
is the under i think it could be, a low
scoring game could. Be A close game michigan state twenty
two and eleven to the under nine and two. In
The last eleven new mexico eighteen and fifteen to the,
under three and seven or seven and three to the under.

(01:25:40):
In the last ten and if you look at just
games away, from their home arena. That's a weird stat
The games away, from mexico's home arena the under.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Is ten, and three all?

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
Right does that?

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Matter Does? THAT matter, sean.

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
Bernard i mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
You know, there's lies you know. Stats speak for themselves
NUMBERS never lies what i was looking for. And then,
pull There so yeah. Well i'll take you. I'll accept
The stat.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
Here's what i'm actually a little more willing to say
might matter the unders five and one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
When they're an underdog that's more of, like a specific
spot like you're playing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Up to another team you're able to muck It Up
the way new mexico might want, To A little bit
so i like the.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
UNDER there eight forty i give me the under one forty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
EIGHT and A half i actually i thought that line
was going to be like one thirty, nine and a,
half to be honest so big maybe the biggest gap
of this entire round two for me IN terms of
where i thought the line would be, And where it
was so might mean.

Speaker 5 (01:26:33):
It have to be it might have to. Be my
best bet we'd would be a Weird Best bet in
Mexico michigan state under it is just a'd be a,
weird route to take but IT might be what.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
I have To do but, if i'm being honest the
most important game to Me of the entire round two For.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
ME is a oregon i had them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
Plus one plus two Fifty to, make the sweet sixteen
and honestly might not have been a great bet because
when they opened last night they were plus two hundred
on The. Money line against arizona now it's calm down
there plus one forty five and the line has fallen
from five and a half to, three and a half
so there's Some.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
Significant movement on oregon oregon should be. Favored in this
game they are The. Better team than arizona arizona doesn't
have a single, guy their top four it shoots better.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Than thirty two percent all their shot making comes from their,
from their role, guys, and the rogue.

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
Well he shoots thirty. Two. Percent From three yeah point
like they have guys who can get out in transition.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
And can run out run, anybody off the court, And
THAT might Happen But i think dana alvan's going to
force this to be a, half COURT offense game And
i don't think arizona wants to play a half Court.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Offense, GAME with oregon.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Yeah i was Really impressed with How. Oregon looked against
liberty it will be a different ballgame when We are.
TALKING about Arizona here i think i'm giving them a
little Bit More Respect than mark henry junior in the
grand scheme of things for. How THEY measure up but
i don't. Hate to take that there's A real case
for oregon should be the. Favorite in this game that
that will one of the more convincing performances of, the
ENTIRE day yesterday and i think they can win games in. A,

(01:28:04):
Lot of ways moregan that's one OF the things that
i think is really encouraging for them that they don't lean,
specifically on a Style like they're not alabama where they
have to run. And push The Paint they're not saint
john's where you have to play. This hard nosed defense
they can kind of be pretty malleable in their approach
and how they. Want to attack teams so curious what They.
Cook up with arizona the, shooting is an issue there's.
No DOUBT about it but i also think they kind

(01:28:24):
of have some big Shot Takers man like kayleb love
making be afraid of the moment that he's going to
be ready to shoot every. Single opportunity he, GETS in
this game I still could see arizona putting, forth a
convincing performance and at the, end of this time we're
talking about this being a team we slept, on A
little bit so.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
I'm not there yet i'm kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Up in the air. AT this current Point, i AM
leading oregon but i could see Myself swinging back to
arizona by the time we.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
GET the tip off i absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Love the duckies there but let's transition that to the,
last another conversation year who is, The lowest remaining seed
not that they, can win the title but that can.

Speaker 5 (01:29:00):
Make, the final four.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Okay so let's see all the ones Still, In, That, Being.
Doke florida auburn houston there.

Speaker 5 (01:29:09):
The lowest seeds are the, twelves that are remaining, which
would and McNeice who aren't? Looking, to, Right now. YEAH yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
Colato's date i certainly would.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Not throw in that i'm trying to take it, from,
a BRACKET perspective seam because i think THE Biggest thing
that i i've kind of tooken taken note of in
this is it's about the, path to an Extent, if
you're a cinderella you kind of gotta have madness under
fold or unfold in front of you.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
To clear the pathway? Do you haven't chance i'm not
coming up with.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Anything SUPER, high here maybe byu if things are, to
break absolutely right. WOULD be AN ANSWER i GET u,
c L a potentially but I just think that i
think you see it would be MY answer now. That
i SIT there so TEN c OR seven C with
ucla Is i think what.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
I'm coming up with.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
I'm gonna Go.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Eight, SEED With yukon okay, i i'll, VISION it you
know i could see the path And, if you beat.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
FLORIDA it opens up i think you. Can, COULD do It.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Yeah I mean ILLINOIS and u see la as six
seeds ARE both teams.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
That i think could oregon is a FIVE is a.
TEAM i think could i don't. THINK an m Can i. Don't,
THINK michigan can. YEAH i Don't think. I think maryland
Can i. Don't. Think arizona Can yeah that's that's those

(01:30:38):
are probably the LOWER seeded TEAMS that i can i
can really. Vision. Making that run here.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Let's take a look, and by the way a good
Point you made on oregon not being able. TO win
different WAYS i forgot what i didn't want. TO skip
by this i think.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
That's a great point, there are another team four guys In.
Double figures.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
And biddle they're big man can kind of a little
bit of a, hub there of offense and you can.
Run offense through him you can Also run Offense through
jackson's ChIL sad.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
When he gets hot he's. Probably their best player.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
And then You have you have bomba who can get really,
hot there as, well super experienced guy sixty year guy
who was really good down the. Stretch of, The season
so yeah oregon's another Very similar to your clayeah just
super well coached a bunch of different guys that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Can THROW at you. So i totally.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Agree let's shift gears. Let's shift gears completely we've. We've
done enough madness there's madness going on RIGHT. Now on
the tv let's shift GEARS over to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
The Nfl Real.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Fast because aaron rodgers big News yesterday Was In pittsburgh and.

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
New york didn't work on. A contract WITH either, i
guess i heard but. It was just visiting it's good
to say?

Speaker 6 (01:31:54):
What's up, to people you know what's your Take on
this whole?

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
ROGERS situation in general, i think.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
People forgot like take all the everything else aside the
dude was a, Bad quarterback last year like he looked
OBJECTIVELY bad, on the nfl field that THAT was not
The Mvp version of aaron rodgers OR a guy that
i view as could give my franchise a chance at
winning a significant amount of games or going.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
DEEP in the playoffs i think the Ship Has, sailed
on AARON rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Is HOW i feel so i Understand a team like
pittsburgh that is clearly desperate to get some sort of
above average quarterback play in the facility to give yourself
a chance of going. DEEPER in the playoffs i get
there's not that many, better Options out there but i'm
Pretty Over the entire ANON rodgers experience and i just
think the juice is not worth the squeeze at this.
Point in his career for everything that you, got to go,
through all the, headlines all everything else it's. Just ANNOYING

(01:32:40):
to me and i just don't think. HE'S good enough anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
I couldn't AGREE more and something i just want. TO
do real quick I Give out the Donkey brains of
the week for the dumbest thing that. Someone DOES every
week but i don't know what like, the opposite would
Be maybe The Real man of genius award of the week.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
THOSE commercials we're.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Back i want TO do that for I think it's
The gm Of. THE vikings name quezi I Think. It's
a quezi udofho. IT'S like a name i know His.
First name, is quezy bravo sir for not Getting Tricked
into paying sam darnold too much money a and for
b Not Just doing. What aaron rodgers wanted he clearly Wanted.

(01:33:20):
To be a viking AND if you. Draft jj McCarthy
TENTH i'm not, a jj McCarthy guy BUT if you,
draft jj McCarthy tenth he should.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
Be playing by. A year or two there's no argument for,
bringing in another veteran for paying a guy. One hundred
million dollars. You drafted him tenth you clearly. Believed in the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
Guy show the belief put. Him on the field if,
it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. And you
move On but you've got kevin O'Connell who's made quarterback
after quarterback look. BETTER than they are i think he's
probably gonna DO it, again WITH jj guy. Who I
don't like but I am confident that kevin O'Connell will
get average quarterback play out of because he's that. Good
of a coach so GOOD on the vikings gm for

(01:33:56):
not Falling hook line and sinker. For all this nonsense,
and like you said it's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Hard to it's hard to Get too upset With. Pittsburgh
or the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
Giants you're so desperate if You're, table in the giants
you just need. To save Your, job if you're pittsburgh
you know you can Win Nine games with, seam bernard
at quarterbacks so you just need to try something to
go get higher than that kind of that threshold that they've,
hit their head on that class ceiling that they keep bashing.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
Their head against here but.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Is there any difference for you For the potential of
rogers coming up like two years removed from an injury
as opposed to What they got from.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Russ down, the stretch not, Really to, BE honest if
anything I would make the Fields case that justin field should.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
Have been that's. That's too far gone that. Was, the right,
case yeah we all. We Couldn't. Agree more the Jets.
Bravo to.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
THE jets they made I love, what The Jets did
getting justin fields and giving them a two year deal
where if, it does work out You're not in the
darneld situation like you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
Have them locked up.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
For That next year the steelers are out their, minds
for benching him and they're even more out of their minds.

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
For not keeping him but now that we're we're, at
where we're At.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Would you let rogers string you along like this, or
would you, Say You know what russell, wilson's the same
thing and he's not going, to string us along and
we can just get him back today.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
And, THERE'S some continuity yeah i lean more on that Side,
Of THINGS with russ like I kind of we're i
think they're both like slightly below average quarterbacks at this point.
In their respective careers they've each, had incredibly accomplished resumes
have done a, lot of big things, but FATHER times
unfeeded and i think we're seeing this with slightly different
stories with, each of these guys. But THE same thing so,
I don't think frankly Russ was better, than rogers last

(01:35:38):
year like pretty clearly, In MY mind there so i
think you have, That TO lean on and i don't
see on the north side of, forty with the injuries
the achilles and everything that he's dealt with these. Past
couple of seasons he was banged up All last, Year
and rodgers too, like he kept playing but it was
every week there was on the injury report with the
rib issue or other. STUFF he WAS battling, i don't
i think like you're not putting the tooth faste back
into two for this guy having one of. His, PRIME

(01:35:59):
seasons ever again i Would just rock with russ and just,
hope for the best maybe take a shot on. Somebody
in the draft pittsburgh's got to answer the quarterback. Question
AT some point but I don't know if i just
see the answer. Out there right now so they're. IN
a tough spot i Just don't see the rogers. Being,
THE solution whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Yeah, i would have said, like a week, ago you Know, what,
if you're pittsburgh Like you know what russ is and
it's not going, To get you anywhere so Take. The
shot on rogers, the longer We go the more i'm talking.
Myself into they should They. Should just call russ at
least he'd be, happy to be there Like. They should
call russ and at LEAST now you have dk. Another
Deep threat guy and russ is just a deep threat,

(01:36:37):
merchant at this point like it's, all you can do it's.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
All he can do so there's part of me that thinks.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
The better Fit would just be pittsburgh falling In line and,
bringing russ back In and then the giants Doing The
circus with aaron rodgers and you have neighbors who can.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Do the precision Routes so They, Got Jamis.

Speaker 6 (01:36:58):
Now, man jameis.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Winston True that's true jamis. Rogers is the funny it
WOULD be the funniest qb, Room.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
OF all time jamis I, think IF you're pittsburgh like
i would have considered Taking, a chance on jamis you're
gonna do this dance, With ALL these guys like i think.
They're kind of things you, Know what you're getting like he's,
gonna air it out he's gonna throw it, all over
the place and you gotta Live with The Highest and
like malik dabers is gonna put. Up, numbers next year
man there's no doubt in. My mind about that it's
not gonna equate the winning at the level. That YOU'D

(01:37:25):
hope for but i don't Think.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
He's gonna start.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
Jamis who Is? THEY draft Someone.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
Roger I? Think? Rogers?

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Or, Russ, WOW probably okay well i just think who
Ever doesn't go to. Pittsburgh, is a giant.

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
Yeah it could be i'm pretty. SURE where, Else where i.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Mean rogers is definitely steelers are. Giants at this point
so Let's.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Say He's a? Steeler where's russ going do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
You Think You don't think jameis winston is a better
quarterback than both those guys at this.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
POINT in their career I would have said.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
I was HIGHER on jamis before i saw A couple
too many browns games where they couldn't. Really move the
ball it wasn't a situation anymore where he. Was putting
up thirty he had a, couple couple big moments but
he had a couple of games where it wasn't, the
thirty five points but you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
ALSO threw four picks i can live with that if that's.
What we were getting there are a few too many games.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Where it's like we, can't move the, ball, and it's
like Man if we're not if we're not able to
move the ball and we still have all, the risk
of turnovers that's where IT gets a little i might
just rather have A Game Manager Loser aaron rodgers russell.
Wilson type out there BUT before last year, I, WOULD
have said jamis i.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Think game manager is like generous describing those guys as
that at this, point in their careers.

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
Like IT'S been bad, So i hear you jamis.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Was Bad last year i'm jamis, is a perplexing quarterback,
To be perfectly, honest but you know. Just listen to
them he's Just praying to the lord to free him
of those pick sixes and he'll BE a a good,
nfl quarterback moving forward, so they'll be entertaining if, not
Anything Next Year, the new.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
York Giants, Anything, with Kirk Cousins like would kirk cousins
be more interesting than any? Of these?

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Other Names To, YOU if i'm pittsburgh i would really give.
That some thought here, i'm not like physically he just
looked like he didn't, have it LAST year And like
i mean rogers in a Similar boat from the, Achilles
Dealing with that like cousins couldn't step into a throw
the way that you need him to as. A quarterback
last year i think it's probably, unlikely THAT comes back
but i wouldn't mind in their perspective taking a chance

(01:39:27):
on that and compared to.

Speaker 6 (01:39:28):
WHAT the options are.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
I Did not Know The.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Cardinals signed jacoby brissett That's weird Move. For jacoby bars
set why wouldn't you go to. Like a different spot?
That's bad radio though why Are We. Talking to jacoby
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there but we're certainly gonna have a lot more time
as a touch on that throughout the offseason and AND

(01:39:52):
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Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
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