Ed & Stefano Unleashed: ISPs to Become Copyright Police? Google’s War on F-Droid, Red Hat Breach

Ed and Stefano are live to discuss the alarming Cox Supreme Court case that could turn ISPs into copyright police, a massive Red Hat breach, and why Google's new developer rules threaten F-Droid and software freedom.

The episode kicks off with major security and privacy concerns, including the massive Red Hat GitLab breach that exposed data from 800 organisations, and Microsoft's strange new AI face recognition limits in OneDrive. Ed and Stefano also dive deep into the Cox Communications Supreme Court case, expressing serious concern that it could force ISPs to become copyright police and threaten the future of VPNs. They also cover Google's new developer verification rules, which pose an existential threat to open-source app stores like F-Droid. Ed also shares a personal discovery about a long-standing issue he's had with Docker container networking and Nginx, explaining why case sensitivity can cause unexpected problems for self-hosters.

On the hardware and industry front, the hosts discuss the worrying trend of lock screen ads on budget smartphones, a scary incident with a swelling Samsung Galaxy Ring battery, and the massive 10-gigawatt AI chip deal between OpenAI and Broadcom that highlights the huge power demands of modern AI.


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Unraid Merch Store


Red Hat GitLab Breach


Microsoft OneDrive AI Face Recognition


Cox Communications Supreme Court Case


Australia Implements World's Strictest Social Media Age Ban


F-Droid Faces Existential Threat from Google Developer Registration Requirements

OpenAI and Broadcom Announce 10 Gigawatt Custom AI Chip Deal


Spotify Partners with Record Labels for AI Music Tools


Waymo Announces London Driverless Taxi Service for 2026


Samsung Galaxy Ring Battery Swelling Incident


Lock Screen Advertisements Coming to Budget Smartphones


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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:11):
Right, hello everyone, and welcome to another
episode.
So another Saturday, it's the8th of November, and we've got a
properly packed show today.
We're going to be starting withsome awesome Unraid updates,
including the 7.2 release, andthen we're going to be diving
into some genuinely, I think,concerning security news, a bit
of regulatory chaos, and ofcourse the usual collection of

(00:32):
AI nonsense and tech industrynonsense.
And also, I found out somethingthis week that I never knew
about before concerning Dockerand Nginx, reverse proxies, and
all of that kind of thing.
And I'm going to be sharing thatall with you guys.
And so we've got Stefano here asnormal.
So how have you been doing,Stefano?

SPEAKER_01 (00:52):
Really good, man.
How about yourself?

SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
Yeah, not too bad.
So um got back from the UnitedStates okay.
It was great seeing you lastmonth.
It was live.
I really enjoyed coming over toAlabama.
Um, I actually did a littlestudio tour of your studio,
didn't I, Stefano?
Um I'm hoping to actually finishediting that this weekend.
And so, all of you guys, if youwant to check that out, um,

(01:15):
you'll be able to see whereStefano does all of his magic.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18):
I'm kind of excited to see it myself, to be honest.
Even though I live here.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Yeah.
But yeah, so anyway, um, we'reback doing a remote one today.
Um, but I think let's before wekind of get into everything, I
really want to just come intothe Unraid updates and start
with our home team news.
Some excellent updates fromUnraid this month.
And if you've been holding up,holding off from upgrading, I
think now's probably the time.

(01:45):
Um, 7.2 is now available, um,has been for I think about a
week.
So it's a significant update.
We've got RAID C expansion forCFS pools without needing to
actually fully rebuild yourpool.
So that's a really nice newfeature.
The web UI has got a completeoverhaul and now has generally
responsive on mobile devices andtablets, so you can actually

(02:07):
manage your server from yourphone without wanting to
actually throw it at the wall.
So that's a pretty cool newthing.
Also, we've got built-in APInow, so that's going to
massively help with plugins andautomation and that kind of
thing.
And also support for NTFS, XT4,XT3 and 2, I think as well, and

(02:30):
XFAT as array file system.
So you can drop those drives inand actually be able to import
them into your array.
So if you've got a bunch of sayold XFAT drives with photos on,
you could actually pop them intoyour array, add a parity drive,
and they'll all have parityprotection on those old drives.
So personally, I think that'spretty cool.
Very cool.

(02:50):
What are your thoughts on that,Stefana?
Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
Yeah, I think it's very cool.
Um it's crazy though that itjust like works like that.
Have you tried it yet yourself?

SPEAKER_00 (02:58):
I have, yeah.
It's it's pretty cool.
One thing you have to kind ofwatch, in my opinion, is don't
go and like put them into anexisting array and then just
start up the array because itwill format them.
So what you have to do, you haveto break the array first, make a
new configuration, tell it tokind of keep the configuration
exactly the same, then put thedrives in, and then it will

(03:19):
rebuild the parity as if it's afresh build of parity.
But if you put it in and aparity is already good and you
add two new drives, it'sthinking, hey, I've got these
two new drives, he wants toexpand his array, so let's wipe
them clean and add them to thearray.
So you want to have no paritywhen you add them, if you're
adding them to an existingarray.
So um, I did mention that in arecent video, um, which you can

(03:40):
check out on your own car show,everyone, um, where I do take a
look at 7.2.
Um, also, what you mentioned,I've forgot to mention in my
video actually, having um OIDCsupport for logging in.
So I think that's pretty cool.
So you can log in with yourunray.net account and other um

(04:01):
OIDC providers into your Unraidserver rather than just having
to use your username andpassword.
So I think that's a pretty coolquality of life improvement.

SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
Not only that, but like it just kind of helps bring
it like I see potential forbusiness use cases now, uh, just
with that little addition, youknow, because one of Unraid's
problems is like, you know, howdoes it break into the business
user space?
And uh I know a lot ofbusinesses like having OIDC for
multiple users, uh, especiallytheir administrators.

(04:30):
So it's a it it's a nice adaddition, I think.

SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
Yeah, definitely.
Um also there's a new accountapp that's gone live, I think,
just a couple of days ago.
Um, it's worth having a look.
Um, links will be in the shownotes, hopefully, after this has
gone live and we edit it.
Um, but just go across onto theUnraid website and um you'll be
able to check it out there.
It's in the blog post thereabout that.

(04:55):
Um, and in other news, there isgonna be our annual Cyber
Weekend sale, and it's gonna behappening from the 28th of
November to the 1st of December.
This is our biggest sale of theyear.
Um I can't really say what'sgonna be there, but check out,
you know, sign up to thenewsletter and get you know

(05:15):
details about that.
Um, there.
So we know for sure just intime.

SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
Yeah, I was gonna say if we know for sure that
there's gonna be uh sales on theunleash license, right?
Yep.
And uh starter licenses andupgrades.

SPEAKER_00 (05:30):
Yep, there is something else as well that you
may be getting with that, butI'm not sure if I'm actually
allowed to say, so I'm gonnakeep quiet.

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
Yeah, so was it a free picture of you with every
purchase of a license?

SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
It is, yeah.
How did you know?

SPEAKER_01 (05:45):
I read the notes.
All right, okay.
Signed underwear.

SPEAKER_00 (05:49):
But as well as huh?
I know.

SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
We're not we're not going that, you know, um No, I
mean like Unraid sells ununderwear, and then you sign it
and send it off.
Not like OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Well, we're joking we were joking once, like um at
a recent offsite actually abouthaving some cool merch, yeah.
So everyone knows the slogan forUnraid is like unleash your
hardware.
Yeah, putting that on the set ofbox some boxer shorts, hey?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
Unleash your hardware 100% do that.

SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
Anyway, talking about merch, just in time for
the festive season, we've gotsome new holiday jumpers, and I
am going to try and actuallyshow you them.
Let me see if I can share myscreen here.
Now, hopefully you guys can seethat.
It's so ugly.
I love it.
So, the self-hosting, this isthe season to self-host.
You've got to have Christmasjumpers, it's it's awesome.

(06:43):
You know, um, nothing says Iself-host quite like a Christmas
jumper with tech references myrelatives will never understand.
So that's what I like about it.

SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
Um true.

SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Um, and other ones as well.
Um, uh come all youself-hosters, but my favorite, I
love this one, Cashing Throughthe Snow.
Yeah, that's very clever.
Um I really like that.
So that's gonna be the one I'mgonna be wearing on Christmas
Day for sure.
And I'll definitely be having mymum asking me, Ed, what the hell

(07:15):
does that mean?
So anyway, I'll tell her to comewatch this episode.
Right, let me stop sharing thescreen for the moment.

SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
I imagine you kind of you know have you watched the
movie Limitless?

SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
Um I have, but a long time ago, so I couldn't
really tell you.

SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
Okay, it's fine.
So, like there's a there's ascene in there where um he's
trying to describe his book.
This is before he starts takingthose magic pills.
Uh he's trying to he'sdescribing his book to like a
just a couple of guys at thebar, and he's just like blah
blah blah, like just going onand on about the book.
I imagine you doing that with uhwith your significant others at
your family Christmas party, andeveryone's just kind of like

(07:50):
watching you talk about cachingand they still have just no idea
what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 (07:55):
You can explain it to them, and afterwards, like
you know, they're they're allnodding going, oh right, right,
right.
And you go, so you understandthat, yeah?
And they go, yeah.
And you go, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:03):
So anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (08:04):
Well, what did I what did I what did I just say?
Explain back to me, and they go,uh, I wasn't really listening.
Yeah, I knew it you weren't.
This is why you never love you.
Right.
Excuse me, everyone.
I just want to just check thestream is working correctly
because there'd be a lot ofthings.
It looks like it's working.

SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
Actually, I I think uh we so we have Marcus in the
shower, while showering himselfwhile watching us, enticing.

SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
Oh hi Marcus.
Um how you doing?
Um I know Marcus um had like hiscat was injured and is having an
operation this Tuesday.
So um unfortunately his cat, Ibelieve, was very horribly shot
and injured its leg and has tohave its leg amputated.

(08:48):
So from all of us here, Marcus,you know, we wish you and your
family all the best and Leo thecat, a speedy recovery.
Okay, so anyway, um I was sayingthat I discovered something um
recently that's kind of buggedme for years, to be honest.
So I'm not sure if you guys haveever been using things like swag

(09:08):
um as a reverse proxy, or forthose of you who use various
containers that speak to othercontainers.
Now, I'm not going to actuallysay what those containers might
be.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Don't get us banned.

SPEAKER_00 (09:21):
But sometimes you sometimes you have a container
that might send something toanother container that may
download something, and you haveto put in into that container
either the IP address and portnumber of the container that
does that, or the actual name ofthe container if you're using a

(09:42):
custom Docker network.
So, custom Docker networks forthose people who don't know, um
by default we use like a bridgenetwork, which just bridges the
host network, and you can't, youknow, one container can't
actually ping the name of theother container with that.
But you can make a custom bridgewhere by Docker we'll be able to
resolve the name.

(10:02):
So if you have a containercalled Maria DB, you know, the
container can ping MariaDB.
You could put in just MariaDB,the name of the container, and
it will be able to connect tothe database.
But here's where it gets kind ofpretty crazy, I think.
And this is something I'd neverknew before, and I always
wondered why this happened, butnever bothered to check the
following.

(10:22):
Sorry, I'm waffling a bit here,Stefano, but bear with me, okay?
So say you've got Schwag, youhave a config file, and Schwag
is made basically to resolve thename.
So you're reverse proxying, sayNextcloud, for instance, and
it's got the name of thecontainer, Nextcloud.
But if you've got your containerand it's has a capital letter
anywhere in it, um, sayNextcloud with a capital N or

(10:46):
MariaDB and you've got, youknow, capital M, or any of your
other containers you might usefor media and it's got a capital
letter in it.
Well, what Nginx will do is itbasically normalizes it and puts
it all lowercase.
So Docker is case sensitive, butNginx will normalize things to
be lowercase.

(11:07):
And that's why sometimes whenyou put in a container name, on
some, you know, I've noticed onsome systems it doesn't work,
and that's because people usinga capital letter in their Docker
containers, and then you know,some containers will have an
Nginx like front end, and youput in the name of the container
you want to connect to, thinkingyou can use the custom Docker

(11:27):
bridge and use names to resolve,and you think, oh, it doesn't
work, that's really weird.
But it's probably because it'sactually changing it to
lowercase, and that's why itdoesn't work.

SPEAKER_01 (11:37):
I never would have guessed.

SPEAKER_00 (11:42):
So, you know, you know, engine, you know, swag's
built around Nginx, so that'swhy you know sometimes people
find it doesn't work becausethey capitalize the beginning of
their containers because itlooks nicer to have that that
then they edit their configfile, put a capital then, and
then it doesn't work, and theyend up having to put the IP
address and port number instead.
But yeah, anyway, so I just wantto let everyone know my little

(12:05):
discovery this week.
Um so I thought it was prettycool.

SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Yeah, I'm glad I uh I always try to stick with
lowercase everything, like outof habit.
Maybe I I mean that's how wewere taught to use computers
back in, I don't know, 15 yearsago to like, oh, just lowercase
everything.
And then if you absolutely haveto have two words, just
capitalize the first letter ofthe next word.
So I've just always naturallydone lowercase.

SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
Me too, exactly.
You know, me too.
Like, you know, I always had mykind of containers always better
talk to each other through nameresolution, and then I'd have
friends and they'd go, Oh, Ed,can you lend us a hand?
Like, this isn't working, andI'd type the name of the
container in.
I'd just cop literally just copyand paste it out of the web UI
of the Docker template, paste itin, and it's not working.
I'm thinking, this is reallyweird.

(12:48):
Like, what is the problem withyour system that this doesn't
work?
It works fine on mine, but itwas just the name, so yeah.
I thought that's I don't know ifanyone in chat has had that type
of um issue ever before.

SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
It looks like maybe.

SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
Let me have a look at chat.
Right.
Anyway, um moving on to ourvarious kind of news, tech news
we have this month.
Um, the sources we've gathered,I think, really show the
technology landscape is beingfundamentally redefined.
You know, I think we're kind ofwitnessing um the contract

(13:22):
between us and our devices beingrewritten like in real time.
Um, it's a real huge expansionof the technical frontier, AI,
new custom hardware.
Right alongside that, we've gotthese urgent legal and corporate
attempts to, in my opinion,establish control.
The central theme of all oursource material today is that as
tech gets more powerful and moreintimate, you know, who actually

(13:45):
gets to set the rules?
So that's the kind of theme ofour stories today, I think,
Stefano.
Um, but before that, I knowwe've got a story that you're
interested in, Stefano, beingabout Red Hat, is recently um,
have you seen the Red Hatbreach?

(14:05):
Because it's pretty bad.
Um, I think it was a cybercrimegroup.
Were they called CrimsonCollective?

SPEAKER_02 (14:11):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
Um, yeah, so they managed to um breach Red Hat's
consulting GitLab instance andexfiltrate, I think it was 570
gigabytes of compressed data.
Let me see if I can share myscreen.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
So, like some of the uh some ofthe like customers that were
affected were Bank of America,IBM, and the US Navy.
I'm surprised it just stops atthe US Navy because a lot of the
Department of Defense agenciesuh or branches of the military
very heavily use Red Hat uh fortheir Linux infrastructure.

(14:47):
So it's so it's probably morethan just the US Navy, but who
knows?

SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
Yeah.
And it's and it's not justsource code either, is it?
It's um you know sensitivecustomer information like
infrastructure configurations,security assessments, and
authentication tokens, I thinkfor about 800 different
organizations.

SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
Yeah, the the authentication tokens I think
worries me the most.

SPEAKER_00 (15:08):
Yeah.
But yeah, I was pretty surprisedto hear about that.
In fact, you know, this isactually a little bit old news.
It was at the beginning ofOctober, but we didn't speak
about it in the last podcast, sowe thought we would mention it
here.
But you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:21):
What's interesting is like, so if you like Red
Hat's actual page there, it saysthat it only affects consulting
companies.
But then, you know, if you fromother sources or they directly
name you know Bank of AmericaIBM and US Navy, it seems a
little odd to me that the USNavy would be consulting for Red
Hat.
I could understand maybe IBM.
I don't really understand Bankof America.

(15:44):
Uh, but yeah, it says consultingcups, it says uh consulting
customers, if you are a Red Hatconsultant customer or analysis
is ongoing, or something,whatever it says right there in
the middle.
Um yeah, and then what's evenmore fun is that OpenShift AI,
there's another vulnerabilitythere that was also just
announced uh previously.
So it's like you know, doublewhammy for Red Hat right there.

(16:04):
800 or I'm sorry, 570 gigs of uhcompressed data was stolen from
28,000 repositories, and thenthey had that other CVE there
with their OpenShift AI, um,where you could uh so like let's
say um a non-privileged user wasaccessing Jupyter or something
like that um through theirnon-privileged account, they

(16:25):
could escalate and then gainaccess to the cluster, the
OpenShift AI cluster.
And uh I mean I well, I guess ifyou've escalated your privilege.

SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
What what what is what is OpenShift for everyone
listening, including me?

SPEAKER_01 (16:39):
I I I honestly don't know because uh haven't read Red
Hat's marketing material.
Um I think it's like uh likemaybe like a container
management platform and uh likean application management
platform, but don't quote me onthat.
I'm not a Red Hat.
Like if there are other productsthey offer, I'm just not

(17:00):
familiar with them.
And I think Red Hat does a verypoor job of like just keeping it
simple and just telling you whatOpenShift is or whatever.
So you have to like read anentire book just to figure it
out.
I'm like, nah, I don't got timefor that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:12):
Um, I've really got a feeling that this month I'm
gonna be on my soapbox quite alot during this episode.
So I apologize to you, Stefano,and to everyone listening and
watching this podcast.
But speaking of privacynightmares, let's talk about
Microsoft's latest bit ofnonsense.
Um, so you've heard aboutMicrosoft rolling out AI-driven

(17:36):
facial recognition in OneDrive,Stefano, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
I have heard about it, and I have no idea what that
implies.

SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
Right, okay.
So Microsoft have rolling out,let me again share my screen,
guys.
So preview users, as it sayshere, you can see, um, have
noticed that OneDrive'sAI-driven face recognition
setting is opt-out and can onlybe turned off three times a
year.
So, you know, because nothingsays you control your data,
quite like Microsoft telling youyou can only change your mind

(18:05):
about facial recognition threetimes annually.
You know, that's one less thanthe seasons in case you're
counting.
But anyway, so what it is is thefeature is enabled by default
and it just scans all of thephotographs with AI and is meant
to use biometrics to work outwho's who in all of your

(18:25):
photographs that you upload.
Now, Microsoft hasn't explainedthe weird limitation about you
can only change this three timesa year.
Some people reckon it might beabout deleting biometric data as
expensive, like especially overhere in Europe with GDPR.
I think when you say you don'twant the biometric data anymore,

(18:45):
it has to be deleted.
And some people are sayingMicrosoft thinks that's going to
be expensive.
Um here's a counterpoint realquick.

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
So Microsoft spent all the money developing the
software, and now they'reworried about it being too
expensive to delete all of thebiometric data.
So what if you just did not dothat and then you wouldn't spend
any money or worry about losingany money?

SPEAKER_00 (19:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:13):
I guess that makes too much sense.

SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
But you know, what I don't like about it is it's is
it's um opt-out and not opt-in.
So everyone's gonna do that.
And also, you know, think aboutthink about OneDrive.
It's so pushed by Microsoft.
Like, you know, do you wantOneDrive?
You know, a friend of mine, youknow, called me last week and
said, Oh, I've got loads ofstuff on my desktop that um that

(19:38):
I don't know where it's comefrom.
And um and I and they said, youknow, can you have a look?
And I said, Yeah, no problem.
So I had a look, and what it wasis they were running Windows 10,
and their computer wouldn't runWindows 11.
So you can actually opt intoextended support with Windows 10
to keep you going to October umnext year, October 2026, I think

(20:03):
13th of October.

SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
Do you have to do that every three years or every
three three times a year?

SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
It wouldn't surprise me.
But you anyway, you can opt intothis extended support, so you
still get updates for Windows 10for another year.
So, you know, a lot of peopleare doing that.
And so, you know, I I told myfriend, well, you can you can do
that, and and but you do have tolog in with a Microsoft account.
If you don't do that, you youbasically can't enable it.

(20:32):
So you have to log in with aMicrosoft account.
And so he logged in with hisMicrosoft account and it somehow
logged him into his OneDrive,and he ended up having loads of
stuff from his desktop syncedfrom when he had OneDrive
before, and that's where it camefrom.
But anyway, that was a bit of aside tangent to this, but um,
you know, I think this is a realbig kind of privacy issue

(20:53):
because when you're collectingbiometric information about
people, you know, what aboutkind of government warrants
searching for specific facesacross everyone's photo
libraries?
So it's not just about whetheryou want Microsoft scanning your
holiday photos and stuff, it'sabout you know who else is going
to get access to this data.
Those are the type of thingsthat worry me.
Um, so yep.

(21:14):
So I was saying, so you know,self-hosting, you know, don't
use OneDrive, use Nextcloud, anduse image local AI on your own
server.
That will scan your photos, itwill group, you know, you know,
group people, and you'll be ableto find all the pictures of your
kids and and your mum.
Huh?
Oh, yeah.
Well, we're not even gonnaentertain that idea that that's

(21:38):
gonna happen.
Not with image, no.
But so talking about everythinggoing bad, that's an excellent
segue to our next.
Oh, sure.
I feel like that all the time,to be honest.
You know, um, so many people,you know, all of us watching
this show, we all know thescore.
But you know, trying to explainto, you know, the normies on the

(22:01):
street, they just really don'tcare.
You know, they would rather haveall of their data, you know,
they just don't understand.
Like I was I was saying tosomeone the other day, you know,
about ChatGPT.
Um, I was saying, you know, whydo you think it's free?
Like, why do you think this is afree thing?
It said they're just collectingso much data about human beings

(22:24):
and how they talk.
You know, all of the things thatpeople put into chat GPT, I
think there was um recently itwas something like a million
people on Chat GPT were talkingabout unaliving themselves.
Um, in I'm not sure what thetime period, I think it was a
week, you know, it was a shortperiod of time.
But all of the things thatpeople say to AI that they would

(22:46):
never say to anyone else, youknow, because they feel safe.
And it's like, oh, that that'ssuch a good idea.
Stefano, you're so clever.
How did you think about that?
I love that idea.
And they get, you know, they getinto this kind of mindset where
they feel, you know, very happytalking to it.
And all of this data, you know,is just being collected and it's
being trained on all of thedata.

(23:09):
You know, a lot of people I kindof mentioned this to friends and
family.
If you think about the amount ofdata that's collected by social
media, and then you kind ofanalyze that with AI and all of
the chats as well.
Say you you wanted to invest insomething, yeah, you could
easily see, you know, potentialmarkers of crazes that might be
coming in from, you know, kindof kids and teenagers and stuff.

(23:31):
Then you buy the shares in thatcompany.
So you're front-running itbasically.
You're, you know, you're um, youknow, because you know about the
company really before anyoneelse does due to kind of
analytics and AI.
So you can buy massively investinto those companies, and as you
see the crazes kind of going orsomething, and like things are
moving on to everything else,you basically dump all your

(23:51):
shares before they crash downand the market goes.
So all of this data, it'sextremely valuable just from
that point of view.
So yeah, you know, it's prettywild.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the thing is, Steph,the thing is, Stefano, I'm not
that interesting, so I don'tcare if they know about me.
You know, you know, I'm notdoing anything wrong, so why do
I care as well?

(24:12):
You know, and I you know, noone's gonna want to hack me.
I'm you know, um I'm just noone, you know, no one cares.
That that's what you hear allthe time.
Yeah, you're you are lookingvery um 1980s VHS cassette at
the moment.
Oh wow.
I just want to ask chat, youknow you know, is the live
stream still showing properly?
It's just I haven't seen anyanything come up in chat for a

(24:34):
little while.
Have you just switched umnetwork now?
Because you've just literallyyour picture's gone perfect
again.
Uh, you know, from from my endnow.
So anyway, okay, let let's letStefano switch live and like see
if it actually I I think thismight go terribly wrong,
Stefano, but I'm gonna let youtry and do it.
So, anyway, guys, the next newsis all about kind of regulation,

(24:59):
and there's a massive SupremeCourt case in the US coming up
involving ISPs and Sony music.
Now, I'm not gonna talk about ittill Stefano gets back, but it's
got massive implications, Ithink, for the whole of the
internet as a whole.
So it's a really important testcase, and I hope Sony lose.
But anyway, let's wait forStefano to come back.

(25:21):
There we are.
He's definitely dropped off nowbecause the stream has gone from
there.
Oh, Marcus, you are an OpenShiftadministrator.
Um, saying in chat here.
I'm just letting him back in.
I'm back, baby.
Here he is.
You're still a bit pixelated,Stefano.

SPEAKER_01 (25:37):
Yeah, I actually I realize since I cleaned up my
network rack, I uh can't switchinternet providers that easily.
So it just went back to where itwas.

SPEAKER_00 (25:45):
I I reckon you're probably just downloading like
the latest um update from Escapefrom Tarkov at the same time,
and it's taking all thebandwidth.
That's what it is, guys.
You know, you know, he's um he'sgonna be playing that when when
he's finished on his fancy 4090.

SPEAKER_01 (26:01):
Yeah.
You got me.

SPEAKER_00 (26:04):
Yeah, talk talking of networks.
I actually switched from PFSense to OpenSense.
Um I think it was not this week,but last week.
I had like PF Sense, there wasan update.
I thought I'm gonna do anupdate.
And normally I always do abackup before I do an update.
It was getting late and I justcouldn't be bothered.
And um the update looked like itwas okay.

(26:24):
It rebooted and wouldn't bootinto pfSense.
And the thing that reallyannoyed me is you know, pfSense
runs off CFS.
Why doesn't it make a snapshotbefore it backs up?
The the data set that was meantto hold the config, it was just
totally empty.
I just thought it's not reallycool.
And I kind of feel that pfSenseare moving further and further

(26:45):
away from you know thecommunity, the community kind of
open source version.
You know, even to download it,you have to set up an account
now.
Um yeah, big surprise there.
I feel like sense.
And I thought I'm going opensense.
It feels like like and I'm I'mpretty happy with it.

SPEAKER_01 (27:04):
Every company is just doing whatever they can to
just destroy themselves.
And I don't understand thiswhole okay, there's two things I
don't understand.
One, we're like entering the AIapocalypse, kind of like how we
had the adpocalypse before.
We have the AI apocalypse, soeverything has to have AI,
whether it's useful or not.
It's kind of like um like whatone why does OneDrive need AI?

(27:29):
Well, it doesn't for us.
It's just something thatMicrosoft is doing to collect
data for God knows what reason.
But I mean, it's just like it'ssilly.
Like, oh, your calculator hasAI.
Why does my calculator have AI?
Why does everything have to AI?
It's it's the same thing withads.

SPEAKER_00 (27:45):
Yeah, I I'm looking forward to when the AI bubble
bursts.
Okay, it's like, you know, it'sit's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (27:53):
Unfortunately, like even if the AI bubble does bust,
like I still think companies aregonna try and push AI in every
facet of of what so uh this isan interesting statistic, and I
don't I don't know how true thisis or how accurate it is, but um
have you ever have you everheard of Gartner?
They're like this huge companythat works with other huge
companies.

(28:13):
What are they called, sir?
Gartner.

SPEAKER_00 (28:15):
Gartner, I don't think I have no.

SPEAKER_01 (28:16):
Uh let me here, let me put it in chat just so like
everyone can read it.
Pretty sure this is how youspell it.
Pretty sure.
So anyway, um I think they theyhad a study where um like ever
every company that they've evertalked to or worked with or have
a relationship with who hasimplemented AI, um, 30% of all

(28:37):
companies have successfullyimplemented AI to some degree uh
in their workflows or orwhatever it might be.
Uh everyone else has failed andwasted money.
And we're not talking about justlike, you know, thousands of
dollars.
We're talking about potentiallybillions of dollars.

SPEAKER_00 (28:54):
Anyway, I really want to move on and talk about
this because this is somethingthat is, I think, quite a
worrying thing.
Um so Cox Communications have aSupreme Court case on ISP
copyright liability.
So the US Supreme Court is aboutto hear a case that could

(29:15):
fundamentally pretty much changehow much responsibility ISPs
have for copyright infringementby their users.
So this goes back, in fact, overa decade to 2013-2014.
Sony basically uh sued Cox formusic downloads, people
downloading, I don't know whatthey're using then, things like

(29:37):
probably Napster and things likethat.
And they basically said theybasically said you're not kind
of um terminating people'sinternet connections for
downloading.
So you need to pay us damages ofone billion.
And it got to court, I think, in2018.
These things, I didn't realisehow long they take to go through
court.

(29:58):
They take absolutely ages to gothrough court.
Court.
So they basically were told, youknow, a billion dollar verdict.
They appealed about it.
And it was kind of said, well,you're going to have to pay
something.
And that amount wasn't everagreed on as to how much it was
going to be.
And then Cox tried to say, wedon't think we should have to

(30:21):
pay anything.
And that was overturned.
They said, no, you should haveto pay something.
And now the court case is on thefirst of December.
And basically the core issue iswhether an ISP is liable just by
knowing about the infringement,or they have to actively
encourage it.
Because it was always you haveto actively encourage it was a

(30:44):
thing before.
But a ruling in favor of Sonycould force ISPs basically to
monitor user activity, andbasically they'll be our
copyright police and potentiallyterminating connections based on
accusations alone.
So think about that.
University dormitories, youknow, you're an owner of a small
coffee shop and you have, youknow, all of these things can

(31:06):
get you cut off.
And also, what some peoplehaven't thought about, maybe,
and I was thinking about thisover the last few days when
prepping for this podcast, isVPNs.
Okay.
So if this goes through, thereare apparently there are loads
of other court cases stacked upon the back of this.
So if Sony basically get winthis case, Cox will be the first

(31:31):
um ISP that will be hit withhuge fines.
And then all of them will.
And then they're going tobasically pass those costs on to
us.
So internet will go up a lot.
And they will become theinternet will lose its
neutrality.
But also then the VPNs, they,you know, VPNs, a lot of people

(31:52):
use it for, you know, stoppingtheir ISP knowing what they're
downloading.
And so then people like Sony andwhen these court cases have been
gone through and set aprecedent, then they're going to
be able to turn around to a VPNand say, hey, you know, you you
know about this, and so you'regoing to have to terminate
accounts.
And in the end, it's going to betoo expensive for VPNs to run.

(32:15):
I feel that this can be used asan attack on VPNs because think
of the backlash there would beif governments and things said
like, we're going to ban a VVPNs.
They were talking about it inthe UK.
They've been talking about it,yeah.
Yeah.
So this is a backdoor way ofdoing it.
And I just think, you know, Ireally need a tinfoil hat to

(32:36):
wear at the moment.
But I always think thesestories, they don't happen, you
know.
We always think that storieshappen in total isolation.
We hear one thing on the news,that's that.
We hear something else.
But sometimes they're not inisolation.
It's just funny, isn't it?
Like all of this goes back to2014.
And now, as soon as, like, youknow, my country has brought in
these rules, so you have to bekind of 18 to go on certain

(32:58):
websites and certain socialmedia things, and you have to
use, you know, facialrecognition to be able to do
that.
You can use a thing and it scansyour face, and it an AI will
work out.
Do you look like you're over 18?
So collecting biometric data.
Um, the way around it is using aVPN, so you can go to the
website a different way.
But this can be used tobasically kill VPNs, commercial

(33:20):
VPNs, but it won't make the VPNprotocol illegal.
So companies can still use VPNspoint-to-point, but what it
could do is it can make VPNs soyou know they're gonna be using
an ISP to exit their traffic.
So if this wins, I would sayVPNs might become a thing of the
past, you know.
What what are your thoughts,Stefano?
Do you agree with my tin foilhack conspiracy theory?

SPEAKER_01 (33:42):
Uh I think that's I think yeah, I mean, yeah,
overall, I think I would agree.
And honestly, so earlier yousaid that, you know, internet's
gonna get more expensive.
Personally, I I already thinkinternet's already there.
So in the United States, anyway,ATT they just did this, okay?
So I was paying$60 a month for300 megabit per second, which is

(34:04):
you know, pretty expensive, Iwould say.
What they did is they're like,oh, hey, we don't offer 300
megabits anymore, but for justfive more dollars, you can have
500 megabits, which is their newlowest tier.
Well, I don't want 500 and Idon't want to pay five more
dollars.
In fact, I think I should beable to pay for 100 megabit per

(34:27):
second, but they don't offer it.
And so what makes it moreegregious is if I wanted to um
so the government has a programwhere ISPs are legally obligated
to offer cheaper speeds andprograms.
Now, in order to do that, I haveto prove that I'm essentially
poor, right?
I don't make enough money toafford or I don't make enough

(34:49):
money, so therefore they shouldprovide me a cheaper service.
And I don't see like why that'sa thing.
Like it that seems so unfair.
Like I should be able to justhave cheaper options available
to me, but I can't.
And so I think like if thisdefinitely kicks off, you're
right, they're gonna pass thecosts off to customers, it'll be

(35:09):
even more expensive.
And you know, like uh there'sthere are some days, Ed, where
I'm like, you know what, I'mjust gonna cancel my home
internet altogether because it'sgetting egregiously expensive.
And um, like if you look at likeuh a mobile carrier like Verizon
or ATT, so just for two lines,we used to pay$183 for two

(35:32):
lines.
It's so expensive.
And for what?
So we can use the internet, sowe can call and text.
So so we we finally switched toa different uh provider.
Now it's it's$50 a month forboth of us, which is
significantly cheaper.
But you know, how long beforethat becomes more expensive?
Or how long before this?
Well, I was downloading, maybemaybe I wasn't downloading,

(35:53):
maybe it was like at a like acoffee shop, like you said, and
now you know, uh, becausesomebody else was downloading
data, you know, my my plan'sgonna be more expensive because
Sony was like, oh, we're suing,you know, your new provider, um,
and that's gonna increase costfor you, right?
Like that that's basically Ithink that's like perfect.
Like what you said was perfect.

(36:13):
And I don't I don't think itshould be the job of the ISPs to
do it.
And I think Sony needs to justno stop trying to they probably
waste more money trying to fightcopyright infringement.
And you know, like in somecases, I totally understand.
Yeah, somebody totally shared aYouTube video or I'm sorry, a
movie over YouTube or whatever,totally get it.
But how much money do you arethey realistically losing to

(36:36):
piracy?
Yeah, I think it's soinsignificant that you know it
doesn't really matter.

SPEAKER_00 (36:40):
And also all of this data goes back to 2013, 2014.
There weren't even streamingservices like Spotify then.
You know, who pirates musicnowadays?
No one, because the streamingservices for music are really
good, but the streaming servicesfor video are getting worse and
worse because you have to haveabout a hundred different
streaming services to watcheverything you want.

(37:02):
But um, I think as well, youknow, the the internet nowadays
is pretty much an essentialutility for a lot of people.
And in 2014 it wasn't.
So, you know, you can cutsomeone off now, and it can
really be have serious repercrepetition for people, you know,
sorry, repercussions for people.

SPEAKER_02 (37:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
You know, you need it, you know, you know,
submitting tax returns.
Um, everything you have to doonline nowadays, it's like, oh,
you know, go go on online and dothis.
Go on, you know, you cut someoneoff, you know, you could really
be affecting their life in a ina serious way, and that could be
just because one of your kids'friends came over and downloaded

(37:40):
you know some copyrightedmaterial and it was nothing to
do with you.
You know, I'm sure there wouldbe some kind of strike system,
like you know, it's not gonna beoh just one thing, but hear me
out.

SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
They have a strike system, but it's handled by AI.
And when you go to um to fightback about that copyright
strike, you don't talk to aperson, you talk to another AI
who analyzes everything, and itand it decides on your behalf
whether you're right or wrong.
And if it decides that you'rewrong, then you have to submit

(38:11):
another request for uh acomplaint or whatever to fight
it.
But unfortunately, you have toget in queue to talk to a person
uh and it could take months andthe entire time you have no ISP.
Wait a minute.
That sounds awfully familiar,kind of like YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 (38:26):
Yeah, well, I'm not gonna rant on about YouTube
again.
Um and my poor little video thatwas banned for no good reason.

SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
Um oh, but um But you did hear about all those
channels that just recently gotbanned, right?
Off YouTube?

SPEAKER_00 (38:42):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (38:43):
I think this just happened like yesterday.
Like 300 channels were bannedoff YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 (38:47):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (38:48):
Let's see, YouTube banned 300, and by AI, which
makes it worse or the algorithm.

SPEAKER_00 (38:54):
It's gotta be it's gotta be accurate.
I've got a love-haterelationship with AI, I'll tell
you.
I do love AI and I hate it atthe same time.
I mean, well, it's reminds me ofan old girlfriend I had.

SPEAKER_01 (39:06):
It would be the I think the what makes AI great is
that it's a useful tool.
The problem is companies arejust throwing AI at the wall to
see what sticks, and thenthey're just like it, they're
not they're not taking the timeto actually do it correctly.
They're it's more like abreak-fix thing.
Hey, we did this thing, oh, itbroke these things.
All right, we'll fix it.
Now it broke these things.
Like they're they're justrushing these things out the

(39:28):
door to try and make money.

SPEAKER_00 (39:30):
And also, like it I think with AI now it's got to a
point where the kind ofalgorithms can't be improved
much more, and the AI arms raceis now coming down to
infrastructure and hardware.
And the problem is, is then thebest models, like it's only
certain, you know, kind ofcompanies and stakeholders that
can actually compete.
And that that's the kind ofworrying thing.

(39:51):
But I'll move on to that lateron on a different story, to be
honest.
But did you manage to find outwhich about the 300 people
banned off YouTube?

SPEAKER_01 (40:00):
Um, I I did Google it.
Um, and it looks like that didhappen yesterday.
Uh, but I'm having troublefinding something that lines up
with what I thought.
The first thing that came up wasfrom some company, but this one
says like YouTube bans multiplechannels over link to unknown
accounts, which isn't what Iwould I what I've been reading.
So maybe this is somethingdifferent.

(40:22):
And have you you've heard ofvidIQ, right?
Do you use vid IQ for yourYouTube channel?
Yeah, so vidIQ.

SPEAKER_00 (40:29):
But um Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (40:30):
Well, anyway, they I guess they were like somehow
involved in this.
I haven't really read this, butanyway, whatever the case uh
seems to be that AI is drivingthe ban on YouTube, and it's
just I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Yeah.
You know, like when my video gotbanned, um it was banned within
under an hour of being up.
And um the video I think wassomething like 34 minutes long,
and I appealed the ban, and thenwithin half an hour, the ban was
the appeal was like, Oh no, yourappeal is not successful.

(41:03):
And I'm thinking, well,obviously no human looked at it
because I got the result or gotthe result of the appeal in less
time than the video runtime is.
But what one good thing is isthat is um Linus actually spoke
about it on um the WAN show, andI was very happy that he spoke
about that.
And my video being for that, Ithought, yeah, thank you, Linus.
I love you.
Nice, that's awesome.

(41:24):
That was that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Um, so Eric in chat says, you know, companies will
spend millions to save a dollar,which is a hundred percent true,
and that kind of goes back toSony, what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 (41:36):
What my grandma used to say to my granddad, because
my my granddad was a real kindof miser, like he would, he
would like turn the TV off whengoing out of the sitting room,
and if you kind of didn't turnthe light off for a moment, and
then he'd kind of waste money onkind of like buying something
ridiculous out of the back ofthis magazine we used to have
called the Reader's Digest.
I don't know if you ever hadthat in the in the US, but they

(41:57):
had little adverts you could buykind of little little model cars
for about a hundred pounds,which in the kind of 1990s was a
lot of money.
And my grandma always used tosay you're pennywise and pound
foolish.
So an American translation wouldbe you're cent wise and dollar
foolish.

SPEAKER_01 (42:13):
And I think like, you know, um well and the way so
you gotta save those cents.

SPEAKER_00 (42:28):
That's very true, yeah.
Uh anyway, moving on to our nextstory.
Um, I'm going to Oh, wait, can Iinterrupt you one more time?
Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 (42:37):
To kind of talk about ads.
So you heard about the Samsungrefrigerator having ads on it,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:44):
Like, I'm surprised it took this long.
I like I've known this would bea thing for a long time, and
they finally started rolling itout.
And it's like, what took youguys so long?
I want to know what people Iwant to know what the common man
thinks.
I need to talk to a commonperson and see what they think.

SPEAKER_00 (42:58):
Oh, come on.
No one, no one must like it.
You know, the only time someonewould like it is if they could
buy the refrigerating for alittle bit less and have some
adverts on there, then they'llgo, okay, I'm happy for that.
But what they don't realize is,you know, the company would just
say, Oh, this is normallyfifteen hundred dollars, but you
can buy the ad-supported one forthirteen hundred and save the
money.
But you know, um, it's like afake price drop.

(43:20):
Yeah, I mean, so like make theprice higher to drop it, you
know.
That's what I agree with you.
You know, look at Amazon now.
Honestly, look at the Amazonprices now before Black Friday,
and you will probably find theywill go up just before Black
Friday, then they'll drop themdown to this price and go, hey,
you know, was this and now isthis?

SPEAKER_01 (43:38):
Yeah, and speaking of Amazon, everyone that shops
on Amazon, make sure you go tocamel cam.
This is not an endorsement, bythe way.
Undray doesn't support this orendorse this, but a good price
tracker is camel camelcamel.com.
I use them all the timepersonally for any of my Amazon
shopping.
But so Ed, you're saying youknow nobody likes it.

SPEAKER_00 (43:57):
What?
I was gonna say, talking aboutAmazon, have you heard that
Amazon is suing perplexity forum AI agents that do shopping on
Amazon and they're kind ofmaking a big fuss about it?

SPEAKER_01 (44:07):
Really?
I love using AI to shop.
AI is really good at shopping.

SPEAKER_00 (44:12):
Yeah.
Well, Amazon doesn't like youdoing it, so don't do it,
Stephanie.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (44:17):
Um so so you you mentioned like nobody's gonna
like ads, right?
Uh on their refrigerators andthings, right?
If nobody likes ads, then howcome so many people are willing
to pay for service like Huluthat at has ads, or to pay for
television that has ads?

SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
Because they don't have an alternative.

SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
That's that is true.
That is definitely true, butit's like I think the the
convenience factor of just like,well, I just won't pay for
television is so great thatthat's why they put up with it.
But it's like it it's unfair,man.
It really is unfair because yourrefrigerator shouldn't display
ads to you just just so you cansave some extra money.

(44:59):
All that means to me is thatthey could make the product
cheaper, but they're trying tooffset any any cost where
possible with advertisements,and they're preying upon people
who have no option to opt out.

SPEAKER_00 (45:10):
Right.
I'm gonna show you something,Stefano, because about ads and
opting out of ads.
Are you using Brave Browser yet?

SPEAKER_01 (45:17):
No, I'm not using Brave Browser.

SPEAKER_00 (45:19):
I you promised me you were gonna try.
When I came and saw you in theStates, you promised me you were
gonna try Brave.
Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_01 (45:25):
That doesn't sound like something I would say.

SPEAKER_00 (45:27):
It's all locked up up here.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (45:29):
Look, it's just a matter of time before Brave
Browser gets bought out andbecomes in shit if I'd like
everything else.
So I'm just I'm just not gonnause it.
I don't have to worry about it.

SPEAKER_00 (45:40):
Right.
When I shared my screen earlierabout, for instance, OneDrive's
AI recognition, I'm gonna showyou that same page on Chrome.
Okay.
So I'm gonna share my screenagain.

SPEAKER_01 (45:49):
Stop using Chrome.

SPEAKER_00 (45:51):
So yeah, but this is like because it's got no uh you
know has no ad block in it.

SPEAKER_01 (45:57):
But okay.
Well, everyone that jumpsshipped to Chrome, I blame all
of you people for giving usworse internet, and you should
all feel bad.

SPEAKER_00 (46:05):
Look at look at all that, yeah?
Loads of ads in it, like WarThunder.
Look how far I have to scrolldown before I see this this bit
here, yeah?
Of these things.
And so now I'm going to actuallyum stop this and I'm gonna share
my Brave browser.
Um, so I've got so many windowsopen.
I'm gonna go back to so there'sthe same page in Brave.

(46:26):
Okay, no War Thunder.
We've got this right at the top,everything's stripped out.
So, you know, if you don't likeads, Brave Browser is a great
tool to use, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (46:36):
That's actually that's actually a pretty neat.
Um it's funny because when youbrought it up the first time,
like I'm I'm so I've grown upwith ads.
So like I have blinders, right?
So when the ads come on, like Ifeel like I've just gone blind.
But normally what I would do forlike a website like this, if it
was overwhelming, I would justclose it and and never go back.
Like it whatever information isthere is just not important
enough for me to see.

SPEAKER_00 (46:56):
But as well, if you know you go, we've all seen like
speed tests, no, no ads at theside.
It's lovely, you know?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (47:04):
And uh everyone should stop using speed tests,
by the way, because your ISP istotally uh using quality of
service to make sure that youhave the highest possible
connection to speed test.net.
Just so everyone knows.

SPEAKER_00 (47:16):
Yeah, yeah.
How come that doesn't surpriseme, Stephanie?

SPEAKER_01 (47:19):
Yeah, it's kind of like the whole 4G, 5G argument.

SPEAKER_00 (47:21):
Anyway, oh don't get me talking about that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:25):
It's not real.
5G is not real.

SPEAKER_00 (47:29):
5GE, which is basically um 4G LTE, and they
just brand it.
I know like uh it's crazy,right?
As well, um I recently um gotgot a new phone and I got an
iPhone.
I still got my graphene phone,and I'm using kind of two

(47:50):
phones.
So I've got my graphene one andI've got this iPhone one here.
And the iPhone it it hadterrible, it's got really
terrible um cell receptioncompared to the um Google phone.
And then I found out that um inAndroid they changed it so you
have like five bars.

(48:12):
And Apple you have four.
Yes.
And I think they can make it soit, you know, in Android it kind
of looks like you've got abetter signal than you really
do.
And anyhow, you know, this phoneit kind of drops a signal quite
a lot.
But what I found out, and I'mgonna share something with you
guys, give me one moment.

(48:32):
Um, okay, let me excuse me,viewers.

SPEAKER_01 (48:36):
I'm just gonna say real quick while you do that.
On iPhone, if you don't havefull full bars, you basically
don't have coverage from myexperience.

SPEAKER_00 (48:44):
Yeah.
But what you can do on iPhone,yeah, dial star three double
zero one hash one two three fourfive hash star.
That gets you into a specialmenu, and you'll be able to see
the proper um signal strength.
D um 50 dB is a really goodsignal.
Anything under 120, youbasically have the you know, it

(49:08):
will it will just drop the callpretty much definitely.
That's so cool.
I did try actually saving thisas a contact in in the um iPhone
and then clicking dial, then itgoes your number can't be
completed as dial.
But if you type it in, it works.
Don't ask me why.
And on Android, if you want tocheck the same, go to settings
about phone and sim status, andyou can see the real um you can

(49:33):
you can see the real actual sellreception you're getting.
So it's quite good to do ifyou're thinking about moving
house, you go and like look atthe house you're viewing, type
that into your phone, or go ontoAndroid and look at the sim
status, and you'll be able tosee the actual real cell
reception you'll get in thatplace.
The the um lower the number, thebetter, you know, the higher,

(49:55):
the closer to like 110, 120,you're gonna have terrible
reception.

SPEAKER_01 (49:58):
So I kind of do that with like when I look in a
neighborhood, I'm like, I alsolook to see what ISPs are
available in that neighborhoodbefore committing.
So it's gonna it's gonna be kindof funny to add this to my uh my
thing.
I I can show my I'm willing toshow my uh my output for my
phone for that uh what it lookslike, what that dashboard looks
like, but you have to change thescreens.

SPEAKER_00 (50:18):
I do like what's going on here.
Ah, okay.
I was pressing the unsharebutton and I'm not sure.
I'm not sharing my um unshare.

SPEAKER_01 (50:25):
Is that a new Unrid product?

SPEAKER_00 (50:27):
My browser.
I yeah.
New unshare 7.2.
All right.
There we are, Stefano.

SPEAKER_01 (50:37):
So okay.
I don't know if this is gonnafocus right, but I'll try.
Oh, so that that's what it lookslike.
I think that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 (50:44):
That's iPhone, isn't it?
That one.

SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
Yeah, it's iPhone.

SPEAKER_00 (50:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:46):
I've blurred out my number and other identifiable
things for my safety.
I can't trust you people.
Oh, well then.

SPEAKER_00 (50:52):
No, I know your phone number, Stefano.
Which one?

SPEAKER_01 (50:56):
I have two.

SPEAKER_00 (50:56):
The one I put on screen and sharing with with
everyone.

SPEAKER_01 (50:59):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yep, that's mine.

SPEAKER_00 (51:04):
Anyway, um went off on a little bit of a tangent
there.
I'm trying to stick to our toour um news topics.
So I'm sorry, I'm a distractor.
Australia.
I'm gonna move on to Australiafor all of our Australian um
listeners who might be outthere.
So the next one is aninteresting from a regulatory
perspective because startingfrom December the 10th,

(51:26):
Australia is bringing in one ofthe world's strictest social
media age bands.
So platforms like Facebook,Instagram, TikTok, Reddit,
YouTube as well.
Um, they all must takereasonable steps to prevent
anyone under 16 from accessingtheir services.
I again share my screen.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (51:44):
Uh so you know, we were talking about uh how the
internet's a utility.
I didn't even think about this,but Eric brought up a good point
in chat.
You you even need internet tokeep your cars up to date and
also your appliances.
Yeah.
I didn't even think about cars.
Yeah.
That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 (51:58):
That's for sure.
But I guess with cars, they'vethey've got their own SIM card
in them.

SPEAKER_01 (52:02):
I mean, yeah, but you usually have to pay for it.
Well, it depends on the brand, Iguess.

SPEAKER_00 (52:06):
I've got a dumb car.
My car luckily doesn't haveinternet connection in it.
I heard the um GM, what they'rescrapping up Apple CarPlay and
they're wanting to build theirown um system.

SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
Yeah, because that goes that'll go great.
The problem with like uhtraditional manufacturers is
they just don't understandinfotainment systems, they never
have, and I feel like they theynever will.
Because even when they use AppleCarPlay, they give you the worst
possible CPU and stuff, soeverything just feels clunky
anyway.
And it's like, Well, just don'teven give me an infotainment
system at this point.

SPEAKER_00 (52:40):
So going back to this story here, the social
media ban.
So basically, people under sixunder 16 are not gonna be
allowed to use you knowFacebook, TikTok, edit, YouTube,
and even the parents they can'tsay we're gonna allow our
children to do this, um, we'regonna say it's okay.
No, it's a blanket ban.
So if it's a blanket ban.
Oh, and also um companies aregonna be fined up to 50 million

(53:03):
Australian dollars if they ifthey don't basically stop
children from being able to goon these platforms.

SPEAKER_01 (53:09):
What is uh 50 million dollar edues in American
dollars?
Like one million?

SPEAKER_00 (53:15):
Um I I think an Australian dollar is about 40
cents, US.

SPEAKER_01 (53:20):
I'm probably wrong.
Sorry, I thought you weretalking about million.
I was like, wow, that's evenworse than what I said.
No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (53:26):
No, I'm not talking Zimbabwe dollars.
Um, so so yeah, so one dollar Ithink is about you know 40
Australian cents, I think.
I'm I might be wrong.
Um But so basically, obviously,if that's the case, then
everyone in Australia, everyonein Australia, they must be kind

(53:47):
of using one of those things,you know, YouTube, Facebook,
Instagram, something they'regonna be using.
So that means that everyone inAustralia is gonna have to prove
that they're over 16.
So this is another UK thing.
And is it gonna be kind ofbiometrical facial scans and
this kind of thing?
This to me is kind of alllinking into the same kind of
thing that I was talking about.
And that's why I kind of say,you know, you know, the the UK

(54:09):
is doing this, we're losing thefreedom on the internet, and you
know, who's putting these peoplein charge to say that these
things can happen?
It's just a dystopian ageverification system, you know,
it'd be interesting to see howthis plays out and whether other
countries follow suit, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (54:23):
So, you know, it's interesting.
Well, so one thing thatsurprised me with this ban is
that even parents couldn't giveconsent to their children, which
is uh a first if I've ever seenit.
Uh but what's more interestingtoo, so like YouTube, they they
have a YouTube kids app, so it'sa completely separate
application uh to watch YouTube.
I think they That's okay.

(54:45):
Uh well for now, yeah.
That's okay for now.

SPEAKER_00 (54:46):
But I think that's not excluded, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:49):
Yeah, currently.
But I think YouTube actually isgetting rid of that app, the
YouTube Kids app.
YouTube Kids app.
I'm looking this up right now.
I think they're getting rid ofit because my kid, he has the
YouTube kids app um, you know,to watch like um blippy and
other other things, but I thinkthey're getting rid of it.
And I was like, wait, wait,wait, you want me to put so you

(55:10):
want me to put YouTube, the app,on his iPad where I have to sign
into it, and then you can andhe's smart enough to just switch
profiles.
And so if he just switchesprofiles, he has full access to
uh YouTube, right?
YouTube's kid app going away?
It's be yeah, it's beingdiscontinued on smart TVs.

(55:33):
It says on July 2024, but his ishis kids app is still working
right now.

SPEAKER_00 (55:37):
But but also um I don't know how they're gonna do
it with YouTube because youdon't even have to sign into
YouTube to watch YouTube.
Do you think they're gonna makeit that everyone has to sign in
in Australia and then maybe thatwill be rolled out?
Because you you can go withoutsigning in and watch things, you
know.

SPEAKER_01 (55:52):
Well, I mean, you can't really watch anything
except ads, really, if you'renot on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 (55:57):
So Brave browser.

SPEAKER_01 (56:00):
Um, but in all seriousness, uh yeah, I don't I
don't know how that would work.
I think YouTube does have like arating system.
Because like so, you're acontent creator, right?
And it's like, hey, who is thetarget audience for this, right?
So you can say kids or not kidsor 18 plus.
So yeah.
I don't know what happens whenyou specifically target kids,

(56:21):
but I think there's like agegroups in there as well.
And I think that's maybe howthey do it by default.
But I mean, well, actually, no,because then if you're not
signed in, then how wouldYouTube know?
Yeah, that's a good point.
That's a good point, Ed.

SPEAKER_00 (56:32):
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, it'd be interesting tosee.
I I just see the internet askind of like literally being,
you know, squeezed and we'relosing a lot of the freedom we
have and the anaminity, I thinkI'm saying that correctly.
Um, and the next story basicallykind of ties into that a little

(56:53):
bit.
Um, you know, Stefano, rememberan Android was supposed to be
the open alternative to Apple'swall garden?
Well, now Google's busy buildingits own wall, but they've just
painted open source on it inlittle tiny letters.
Because Google plans tointroduce a mandatory developer
verification requirement in2026.

(57:14):
And the worry is, is this couldgenuinely spend um spell the end
of F-Droid and other open sourceapp stores.
The new rules would require allAndroid developers to register
with Google, pay a fee, andsubmit government ID.
So, you know, what F-Droid issaying is like they can't just
ask all of their developers toliterally prove who they are,

(57:35):
because a lot of open sourcedevelopers don't want, you know,
you know, they don't want to,you know, um they they want to
be anonymous, you know.
And obviously, F-Droid can'tkind of take over all of the
projects uh, you know, of thesethings.
You know, is this gonna be theend of F-Droid?

SPEAKER_01 (57:50):
Um so you know, so it's kind of funny, okay?
Imagine right now if Bitcoinmining and a Bitcoin mining app
for your phone had just comeout, and uh Satoshi Nakamoto
wanted to be anonymous andnon-existent, and basically just
be out of he wanted justanonymous, he wanted to be
anonymous, right?

(58:10):
So would Bitcoin be allowedtoday on Google?

SPEAKER_00 (58:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (58:14):
Like that's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 (58:16):
No, it wouldn't, would it?

SPEAKER_01 (58:18):
It's funny how you know, certain things like
Bitcoin can just you can remainrelatively anonymous on, and
that's acceptable because it haslike a monetary value.
But you know, God forbid there'ssome open source app uh that you
know lets you do somethingad-free or whatever on on
somebody else's phone.
So this goes back, you don't ownanything.

SPEAKER_00 (58:39):
You don't like you know, a phone is just a
computer, and Lewis Rossman saysit a lot, you know, your a phone
is a computer, you know, in yourpocket.
Like, why does anyone get tochoose what software you can
install on it?
You know, it belongs to me, notto Apple or Google.
And it's only a matter of time,probably before, you know,
desktop computers would be, oh,you can't install that.

(59:00):
You know, on Apple it's gettingharder to install things um that
aren't kind of signed and thatkind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 (59:06):
Um but but at least on Apple, you know, if you're
like, hey, delete thisapplication, uh every time
there's an update, they don'tjust like put it back on your
desktop anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (59:17):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:19):
And uh and speaking of speaking of which, okay, so I
don't I don't know if this is100% valid.
This is my fault.
I should have looked it upfirst.
I didn't know we'd talk aboutthis, but this recently became
on my radar.
So allegedly, conspiracy hattime, allegedly, uh Internet exp
Internet Exploder is still inyour operating system, but it's
so well hidden that the only wayto know that it's truly there is

(59:41):
if you install like uh datacenter, like let's say uh
Windows Data Center 2022.
And when you open up um Edge,it's actually Internet Exploder,
but in a sandbox.
So it's still using InternetExploder, and um, you're not
actually using Microsoft Edge.
Have you heard this?
I love it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:03):
I don't know, but I haven't heard it being called
Internet Exploder before, and Iactually love that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:07):
Really?
Yeah, no, you want to blow upyour Windows PC using an
exploder.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:15):
No, all of this, you know, um, you know, Google
trying to kind of make a wallgarden and have this, it's it's
you know, really sad.
Like that's why, you know, Iguess, you know, use Graphene
OS.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:27):
How long is Graphene OS going to be allowed to be
installed on your uh phone?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:31):
Yeah, um that's true.
You know, we don't know ifGoogle could make it so in
future pixels it can't be.
But um talking about I want togo and talk about ads again
because I was listening to aLewis, a Lewis Rossman video
today.
Um I was in the car, so I'm notsure if it was a recent video or

(01:00:53):
an old one, but he was talkingabout something called ad
nauseum.
Have you heard of ad nauseum?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:58):
I've heard of it, but I don't know what what it
is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:00):
It's a blocker, it's an ad blocker, okay.
But what it does is it blocksthe ads so you can't see them,
but also it clicks on everysingle ad on the page or
whatever you go to in order tomess with the kind of
advertisers.
So it messes up their businessmodel basically, because every
single ad gets clicked on and itand it's never followed through.

(01:01:20):
So the more people that use it,it will kind of mess with
advertising.
And Lewis Rossman was saying hethinks it's great because if you
de-incentivize people to havetargeted ads, maybe they won't
pay what maybe they won't pay toum to kind of use targeted ads.
But you know, ad nauseum, I'dnever heard of it before, I
haven't ever tried it, but Ithought that was an interesting
ad blocker, how it tries toactually, you know, mess with

(01:01:44):
the advertising companies aswell, because they always want
you to click on the ad.
So this basically does it foryou, but you just don't see any
of it.
So it's interesting.
So you need the bandwidth to doit because it will be using
bandwidth.

unknown (01:01:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:56):
Yeah.
So uh moving on to our nexttopic.
Um, this is a big one.
OpenAI and Broadcom announce a10 gigawatt custom AI chip deal.
So OpenAI and Broadcom haveannounced a massive deal for 10
gigawatts worth of custom AIaccelerators.
So to put that in perspective,that's enough electricity to

(01:02:18):
power a couple of large cities,not small towns, proper cities.
So, you know, isn't it funnythat it's fine for AI to use
lots of electricity, but umBitcoin was meant to be the most
evil thing in the world becauseit used a fraction of the amount
that AI does.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:33):
Well, Bitcoin's not evil anymore because now it's
making people money.
It's a uh investment, it'sthat's something you'll add to
your investment portfolio toround it out.
So it's acceptable.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:44):
The uh what's funny is what's really funny about
this actual announcement is umso I think Broadcom uh
personally, my my experiencewith Broadcom has always been
very negative.
And so I uh imagine that whenBroadcom chips start rolling
out, it'll be like, oh yeah, wehave this AI chip for you know
whatever, but it doesn't comewith this feature because you
didn't buy the super massiveultra version of it.

(01:03:06):
Whereas like a lot of like and Iand I specifically am targeting
or talking about like um networkcards.
Um so like Broadcom networkcards, they'll typically just
omit certain network features.
And whereas like if you buy fromIntel, Intel typically has
almost all the featuresavailable to their uh network
adapters.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:26):
Yeah.
So you know, with with thisdeal, like OpenAI are gonna
design the chips, comm willbuild and deploy them.
With the rollout starting, Ithink it's in late 2026.
This is part of OpenAI'sstrategy to control its AI
hardware stack.
And if like what I was sayingearlier, is it seems now that
it's not the algorithms beingimproved, it it's the

(01:03:48):
infrastructure, the power, thethe hardware, etc.
You know, so um, you know, umthey're building these more
powerful models without beingentirely dependent on Nvidia.
Unlike Stefano's 2090, whichpulls 450 watts to run tarkov at
medium settings, this actuallyrequires a serious power

(01:04:08):
infrastructure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:09):
Excuse me, I think you mean 4090.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:11):
What did I say 3090 today?

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:13):
2090.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:14):
Oh, 2090, god so all these data Stefano's 4090.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:18):
Yeah.
All these data centers are arethat are getting built.
Are these the is this the reasonwhy RAM is on short like having
a shortage right now?

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:26):
Yep.
Um basically, oh god, don'tdon't talk about RAM.
Crazy prices, man.
Absolutely insane prices.
Yeah.
Um AI is pushing up the price ofRAM.
And just look at that.
This here, 200 pounds for a 32gig stick of basically laptop
DDR5 RAM.
I bought this for a little microPC um about 12 months ago, and I

(01:04:51):
think I paid£70.
So um it's gone up quite a lot.
Let's see how much of it is atAmazon here.
Oh, okay, not quite so much.
£125, but still I bought it for70.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:03):
All right, yeah, yeah.
Take that link and punch it incamel, camel, camel.
I wanna I wanna see some historyhere.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:08):
Okay, let me try that.
This is a website I've not used,Stephanie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:12):
You haven't used camel, camel, camel.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:15):
Oh god, where the hell is the website?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:16):
All the all the ads being served to you first.
It's just camel, camel,camel.com.
Okay.
It's better to just use AI tofind the websites you want
versus just Google searching.
You know, remember how beforeGoogle existed and you had to
know somebody who knew uh like aforum to find information you
were looking for?
We're kind of getting back tothat.
All right, yeah, yeah.
Look at that price history.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:37):
There, look at that bit there.
That line goes straight up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:41):
It does.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:41):
Yeah, there we are.
Look, that that must have beenthe price I bought it at about
here, 70 pounds.
It's gone straight up to 126.
So that's over okay, so it'sbeen high for a month.
Yeah, so just just before thebeginning of October, it just
rocketed up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:58):
That's pretty good timing.

unknown (01:05:59):
Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:59):
And I think the uh the price is actually getting
close back to MSRP because whenyou had it on all, I bet that
the price that they had listedthere um was uh like when it
came like when it hit the marketback there in November on the
far left.
Oh, right, yeah.
Yeah, that's probably when itreleased.
That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:16):
Yeah, because when it released here, look, it was
looks like it was 95, then itwent up in November of last
year.
This might not be in the actualstick I bought, to be honest,
but it may not be.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:26):
And that's 32 gig stick.
Um that's why I like pasting thelink.
Well, that one says it's 32gigs.
Pasting the link is always likeuh good.
Or you can also just use thesearch function there to find,
you know, like a similarproduct.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:39):
Um that's a really cool website.
I really, I really like that,Stephanie.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:43):
It's significantly so everyone was raving about
Honey and uh those other pricetrackers, but you know, I it was
silly to me because you know,honey is not showing you the
full price history of a product,right?
And so I've been using CamelCamel probably for maybe nearly
10 years now.
And um, you know, everyone'slike, oh, honey, honey, honey,
is like you are all idiots forusing this because you even

(01:07:06):
honey is not showing you thetrue price.
And so you could when you havethe full price history of a
product, you can very clearlyeasily tell if it's a good deal
or not.
And so this tool alone hasprobably saved me, I don't know,
hundreds of dollars on BlackFriday.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:21):
Wow, that's really good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:22):
Yeah, yeah, and it's free, but yeah, because of ads.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:25):
It's it yeah, it's it seriously, like AI, it's kind
of messing up quite a lot ofthings, isn't it?
Really?
Like as I said, I've got alove-hate relationship with AI.
I love using AI, it's such acool tool.
Um, I use it in a lot of myvideos.
Um I use it for music, I useSuno for making music for my
videos.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:45):
I heard you like making very sensual music for
your YouTube videos.
Did you see that post on Reddit?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:52):
Idiot.
I I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:54):
Oh, dude, somebody posted on Reddit.
Whoa, the unraid 7.2 was uhintroduction was a very sensual
song, and I was like, what?
I had to go back and re-listento the intro, and I was like, at
what point is this at allsensual?
And I was like, it's a a womansinging?
Is that just because it's awoman singing that makes it

(01:08:15):
sense?
I don't know, it was it wasstrange.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:17):
Yeah, but I I love using Suno.
The reason being is because Iused to use these kind of
services where you pay like kindof$250 a year and you've got a
whole category of of music thatyou're allowed to use that they
say is copyright-free.
I was I was using that, andsuddenly I'd like come up with
like a copyright thing, and thenI'd have to like paste in to say

(01:08:39):
and I thought I just can't bebothered with that anymore.
And Suno to be able to just makemusic that has absolutely no
copyright and is only mine, it'sjust a far better thing.
And any content creators outthere who are listening, use
Suno.
Um, I think it's about 10 bucksa month.
You can make your own tunes inthe style you want, and you can
use them in all of your YouTubevideos, and you're not going to

(01:09:01):
get any aggro from YouTube aboutit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:04):
So you know, speaking of um really like it
music.
So you know how like the musiccreator uh on on uh studio or
yeah, like on YouTube creatorapp, right?
You have studio.youtube.com orwhatever it is.
So they they have an AIintegration now where you can
also like prompt it to makemusic.
Uh but that's besides the point.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:24):
I didn't know that.
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:25):
Yeah, it's it's it's okay.
I haven't I'm not I haven'treally explored using AI for
music yet, but that's kind ofbesides the point.
I actually wanted to give somekudos to YouTube.
Oh, it's the end of the world,Ed.
I'm me actually saying that youknow YouTube did something
right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:43):
Are you okay today?

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:44):
Uh yeah, I'm fine.
Uh there is not a there is not aYouTube overlord behind the door
behind me, and uh everything isgreat.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:54):
Uh but no, and seriously blink it blink blink
if you're being forced to saythis, Stefano.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:00):
Everything is great, but in all seriousness, the mu
the music part, you know howlike you can uh like you've I
don't know if you've usedYouTube music for any of your
videos in the past, but rememberwhen they switched to like now
you can actually pay thecreators through YouTube Music
to use the music they made andthen started adding licensing
models and all that stuff.

(01:10:20):
Remember that?
The one thing that I think theydid good.
Oh, okay, okay.
Well, the one thing I think theydid good was um all of your old
videos that had that license orthat had that uh music license
free.
If the creator of that wanted tonow force you to have a license
or ask, you know, to be paid fortheir work, um, if it was

(01:10:42):
already done on a previousvideo, you don't have to pay
them a royalty or do anything.
It's still free.
But moving forward, you do haveto pay them.
And that was like, wow, thankyou for not like ruining
potentially hundreds of videoson on YouTube because now like I
don't have to.
It's not that I don't want topay these creators, right?
It just wasn't a thing backthen.

(01:11:03):
Like it was it was just freemusic, so we're just using it.
And so so it's cool that youknow we don't have to worry
about suddenly, oh, thousands ofdollars from all these old
videos that use this oneparticular song now have to be
attributed to the creator.
And so um that's yes, you didn'thear of it because it's not a
problem.
Talking about music, uh Eric waslike, be careful, don't let the

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AI copyright your music.
You're gonna get a copyrightstrike because AI is like, hey,
I've heard that song beforebecause that's part of my model.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:32):
Yeah.
Damn it.
Anyway, uh, talking about AImusic, um, our next story is
about Spotify.
And Spotify partners with recordlabels to create artist-first AI
music products.
So Spotify's teaming up withmajor record labels like Sony,

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Universal, and Warner to buildAI tools, which what they're
calling an artist firstapproach.
They've laid out principles toguide the work, ensuring that
artists have a choice inparticipation and are fairly
compensated.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:06):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:06):
So from what I understand, this will allow
people to kind of like have umsome music and they can kind of
remix it in the artist's voiceif they've participated into it.
You know, um, I don't thinkyou're gonna be able to actually
kind of say, Hey, um Sony Music,sorry, um Spotify Music AI, make

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me another two-pack song withthese words because he hasn't
opted in because he's dead.
So it's only meant to be artiststhat have opted in.
But how I look at it is what funis that to be able to say create
some music and then not be ableto share it.
So how are they gonna do that?
Like, and if they say you cankind of share it into Spotify,

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there's gonna be a millionremixes of certain songs, and
it's gonna just how are yougonna find what you want to
listen to?
I don't really know how they'regonna deal with that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:56):
I mean, music's kind of already become that way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:59):
Yeah, but imagine there's like a song and it's got
like, you know, 5,000 remixes ofit.
And you're doing a search for asong and it does it just, you
know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:08):
It's it's funny that they're like, oh, this is not
supposed to replace humans, butit's like, well, if you don't
want to risk replacing people inthe first place, then maybe you
should just not allow AI on theplatform.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:20):
Well, have you ever heard of the story about, you
know, well, the anecdote aboutboiling a frog in a pot of
water?
No.
Put it in a pot of water whenit's cold, and you start boiling
it, the frog won't get out.
You put the frog into a pot ofwater that's um hot, it will
jump out.
So basically it gets accustomedto it.
So this is the first step, isn'tit?

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:41):
Uh yeah, I mean it's the same thing with like every
streaming service or everyservice, right?
It's like, oh yeah, you know,it's five dollars, now it's ten
dollars, now we have differenttiers, and the lowest tier is
cheaper, but it has ads, andeventually all tiers have ads,
and you're still paying lots ofmoney for like 4K or whatever.
Yeah, it's the same, yeah, sameprinciple.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:02):
Yeah, Spotify is saying they're quite clear that
these tools are intended toenhance creativity and not
replace human artists.
But we will just be cautious,cautiously optimistic, but very,
very skeptical.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:15):
Yep, very sceptical.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:17):
And I'm gonna move on to the next story here.
Um, let me, I'm not even gonnabother stopping sharing my
screen for a moment.
Is this one's particularlyinteresting to me because it's
in the UK.
Waymo is bringing its fullyautonomous ride hailing service
to London in 2026, which ismarking its first international
expansion, and they're gonna beusing the Jaguar iPaces on

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London streets in the comingweeks, but they're gonna have, I
think, uh, human safety driverson board for now, so that'll be
a bit boring.
Yeah.
I will wait until they no longerhave them, then I can try out
being driven around by AI.
What could possibly go wrong?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:55):
Hey, um, I don't know.
It's uh go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:59):
I was gonna say the interesting bit I think is like
London, it's gonna be properlychallenging for self-driving
cars.
Yeah, you guys in the States,you've got very nice, kind of
like grid cities, andeverything's you know, the roads
are like really decent, but andthe roads are larger streets and
windy and yeah, so it'd beinteresting to see, you know,
how many um people Waymo managedto unalive during the trials or

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when the human drivers leave thecars.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:25):
I I think I think honestly they'll probably just
end up causing more traffic umin the cities just because they
they err on the side of juststopping right there and putting
their hazards on and not moving.
I mean, I don't I don't have anypersonal experience.
I will have my first Waymoexperience in December.
So that will be fun.
We could talk about that if youyou know see.

(01:15:45):
Oh, yours is in 2026.
Yeah.
We could talk about ourexperiences.
Yeah, but uh what I'm mostinterested in is so like I've
been I came to visit you, right?
And while I was there, westopped in London.
The number of of taxi servicesis insane there.
Uh I love it.
I mean, it's great because youcan basically just hail a taxi
at any point, at any time ofday, and it's it's fast.

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There's like I feel like there'sa some sort of taxi service on
every corner.
Um, so I wonder how disruptive,if at all, Waymo is gonna be, or
like maybe these like taxcompanies that have all of these
drivers are just gonna maybeflip over immediately and get
rid of all their paid drivers.
Like, I I want to know how thisis gonna work.
It's gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:28):
And have you heard as well, like um I can't
remember who it is, but it mightbe Amazon.
Um, they are they've got somekind of like system where it
records the person when they getout of the car.
They've got some sort of headheads-up display, and it it's
not turned on while they'redriving the van because they say

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it's gonna be too distracting.
But what it does is when theyget out of the van, it gives
them a heads-up display andguides them how to get to the
house where they're deliveringthe parcels, and then uses that
data.
And people are thinking thatdata's gonna be used in order
for fully autonomous deliveriesusing you know some kind of AI
stuff because the actual routeswill be the data will be there

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from the drivers getting out ofthe car and going up to the
houses and into the apartmentsand that kind of thing.
So they'll have all of that datathat seems kind of silly.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:20):
So the um anyway, um Do you think there's gonna be a
a war between the black taxisand then the white Waymo cars?

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:31):
It wouldn't surprise me.
I'm sure have you ever heard ofthe Blade Runners in London?
No.
So the Blade Runners for you, umfor you guys over the over in
the States.
We have things in London andother places in the UK whereby
you have like cameras, and ifyou go into certain areas of

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London, you have to pay acongestion charge.
In another bit, like admissions,they say, Oh, your car produces
too much um CO2 or something.
You literally literally you justget kind of you have to pay like
um, I don't know,£20 orsomething.
I'm not sure how much it is forthat day.
And so obviously, if you kind ofwork in a certain area and
things like that, it ends upbeing very expensive.

(01:18:12):
And um it it was brought intoLondon, and there's they spent
millions of pounds putting upall of these cameras, and
there's a group called the BladeRunners, and they go and cut
them down.
Nice, and and so when you say,Will the black cab drivers fight
the way by us?
Um, it wouldn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:31):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
No, funny.
So when I came to visit you,that was a surprising thing.
The whole um uh fees for um, Iguess like cars that pollute
more, whatever.
But I remember you're like, Oh,we're not gonna go down this
street because I'm I don't wantto risk getting fined.
So you went like a longer route.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:47):
And it's like, yeah, I did more pollution.
I know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:50):
Like it's like that's how the government is,
though.
They don't think they don'tthink about that stuff.
They're like quick to implementthings, and they're like, Well,
how what happens?
What are the second and thirdorder effects of doing this
thing?
And inevitably it just make itworse by making people do like
go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:04):
It's like but also how how does paying for it stop
the pollution?
It doesn't.
The pollution is still there,but you're just paying.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's silly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:12):
And um, and that brings me back to AI with like
you know, 10 gigawatts and thesekind of like um you know power
stations that AI companies areare going to be building.
Isn't Meta building some kind ofpower station?

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:25):
Uh uh Yeah, allegedly I think that's in the
works, or maybe acquiring yeah,acquiring an existing or uh
yeah, acquiring existing nuclearpower plants.
And you know, it's funny too,like I remember when EVs were
starting to become I really wantI really want Meta to run
nuclear power stations.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:41):
I think that would be great, you know?

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:42):
It's probably the future.
It literally might be thefuture.
Uh it's funny when you know EVsbecame all the rage, and then
power companies like, oh, wehave to charge more money
because now more people have EVsand the infrastructure can't
support it.
And then suddenly it's likethese data centers are popping
up everywhere with even moremassive amounts of power.
And it's like, oh yeah, no, thisis fine.

(01:20:04):
And oh, by the way, it isactually driving up costs, and
guess who gets to pay for it?
I do.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:09):
Hooray.
Anyways, let's move on to ournext story, which is a bit more
funny, I think.
Well, not funny for the personwho actually did it, but um um
so Sang's Samsung Galaxy Ringbattery swelling incident leads
to someone having to go tohospital.
A tech influencer um reported ascary incident, whereas Samsung

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Galaxy Ring's battery swelled,and it basically trapped the
device on his finger, and he hadto go to hospital to remove it.
So um I had to actually look upwhat the Samsung Galaxy Ring
actually was and why wouldanyone want a smart ring, you
know.
And apparently it's um tracksyour heartbeat and it's like a
kind of fitness thing, but itseems pretty pointless to me.

(01:20:50):
I'm not sure what your thoughtsare about it, Stefano.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:53):
But um it seems pointless to me too.
I don't I have no interest inthat kind of technology.
I got a I got a finger righthere and I can check my pulse,
and that's all I need to be ableto do.
It's super simple.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:04):
Yeah.
I can see someone, you know, youknow, you know, wearing a smart
watch, but a smart ring, comeon, it's absolutely ridiculous
in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:11):
Yeah.
But you gotta consume.
We need to have consumer thingsfor consumer things people to
buy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:16):
Yeah, that's very true.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:18):
Um now, is it cool?
Yeah, yeah, it's cool.
I just I wouldn't I mean theproblem with it is just it's
just e-waste, is my real problemwith it.
You know, like yeah, like theydo just enough to make it
marketable, and then you know,the next one comes out and it's
slightly better, and theneveryone's like, well, this one
actually works better andactually is better.
And then it's like, you know,it's just it's just e-waste,

(01:21:39):
man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:40):
But you know, batteries, lithium batteries,
they're a pretty big problem.
You know, um, there's been youknow cases on catching fire in
phones and people's pockets andstuff.
Um, and with this ring,apparently, uh what Samsung said
about it is it's extremely rareand basically pointed people to
the kind of safetydocumentation.
And a safety documentation saysif you need to cut it off, you

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have to cut it.
They've got a little marksomewhere on the ring, and you
should only cut it in thatparticular place.
Um, because if you cut it in thebattery, it can cause the
battery to explode.
So, you know, at least they didthat.
At least they did.
Yeah, but who reads who readsthe safety instructions on these
things?
I don't think that's a goodidea.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:18):
No, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:21):
But it made me quite worried because I recently
bought my dog a um tracker.
Oh yeah.
Um poor shadow.
So I I was thinking like I youknow, it's actually quite
worrying me about the battery,thinking because I was charging
up the battery and uh and itgetting to 100%.
I was thinking, imagine if thebattery went wrong on her, you
know, and kind of burnt, it'd bepretty bad.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:42):
Yeah, that would be bad for Shadow.
Um so Tyson uh kind of broughtthis up.
I didn't see this in chat untiljust now, but uh so I guess in
Utah.
So due to all the new datacenters being built in Eagle
Mountain, Utah, I knew anotherEagle Mountain once.
Uh, they are now thinking ofbuilding a nuclear reactor.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:00):
Well, the thing is, I just don't trust any power
station run by people likeGoogle or Meta because they're
gonna cut corners to save money,and the corner cutting will be
safety.
Oh, the AI can just run thenuclear power station.
We don't need any people thereat all.
And yeah, what could possibly gowrong, hey?
You know, Mark Mark Zuckerbergrunning.

(01:23:23):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty crazy.
And um none at all, to behonest.
No.
Um my wife, my wife has uh hasan Apple Watch, but um I I don't
know.
Yeah.
Um Aaron Good Times um in thechat.
He's just um made a comment.
Just installed Unraid for thefirst time.

(01:23:44):
Um, welcome to Unraid.
Um best of luck with yourserver.
And he says he's going throughyour videos for instruction on
how to set up a ZFS RAID Z2 poolor array, not sure which to look
at.
Um I don't know if I've got avideo on actually setting that
up, but um yeah, basically justadd a new pool in Unraid, choose

(01:24:07):
how many slots you need, so umobviously two parity and then
how many data drives you want.
Um add them in, set it to set itto ZFS.
I'd recommend enablingcompression.
Um you'll probably have fasterread and write speeds enabling
compression than if you didn't,because it's quicker to um read

(01:24:30):
off spinning Rust drives,compressed data and decompress
it in the CPU than read thelarger amount of compressed data
and sorry, the larger amount ofuncompressed data off the
drives.
And obviously you will be ableto fit more on your disks.
So it's very easy to set up, butum yeah, um on your Uncast
channel, I think these kind ofvideos they'd be good for new

(01:24:52):
users like you, Aaron.
And um, I will put it in mynotes of future video to create
and make some videos aboutsetting up various different um
Unraid storage options.
Okay, yes.
I'm not gonna say any more thanthat, but yes, I think you know
we we have announced I thinklast summer that we are
developing internal boots, sothe answer's yes.

(01:25:16):
Oh, okay.
So yeah, um, yeah.
You know it's your job to readthe um the comments.
You know, I can't I can't walkand chew gum at the same time,
Stephanie.
So you you have to do thesejobs.
Okay, okay, okay, cool.
So you know you were talkingabout um earlier on the Samsung
fridge and stuff and ads.

(01:25:37):
Well, we've got something elselike that.
No, but to be honest, um I'mmoving house at the moment and
um I've got like a big fridgefreezer here, an LG one.
And the people ask if they couldbuy it, like as you know, when
they buy the house as well.
I said yes, and now I'veactually changed my mind.
I'm thinking, no, I don't wantto buy a new fridge freezer

(01:25:57):
because I don't want it to beinternet connectable and have
ads or anything like that.
I think I'm gonna keep the oneI've got.
But anyway, talking about adsanyway, is lock screen ads are
coming to smartphones, andthere's a brand called Nothing,
and so there we are, you know,because you know who doesn't
want an ad when they're justchecking their phone for the
time, you know?
Yeah, perfect.

(01:26:19):
So yeah, it is pretty scary, youknow.
Um they call it um lock glimpse.

unknown (01:26:26):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:27):
I love it how they kind of make these special words
that makes it sound like, oh,there's nothing wrong with that.
Lock glimpse, it's just a littleglimpse of an ad.
You know, it's not gonna, youknow, come into your life much.
But the feature shows rotatingwallpapers with links to ad
field articles and is built umby default for the phone 3a

(01:26:48):
Light AP.
Uh Tiroler is partneringpartnering with Taboula to push
ads through the system app.
Both companies claim this helpssubsidize the cost of the
hardware, you know.
Uh that's always the excuse.
Yeah.
You know, uh, I I would ratherpay more for the hardware or buy
a secondhand phone.
So yeah, it's pretty crazy withall of these ads.

(01:27:13):
Yeah, definitely.
You know, they say that you candisable the feature on most
devices with these phones, butfor me it's a worrying trend for
user experience and privacy.
You know, today it's optional,tomorrow maybe it won't be.
Um it's you know, to me, to meit's classic and yeah, c classic
and shittification, really.

(01:27:34):
You know, start with um startwith this, you know, the ads on
bud budget models, and then itgradually over time expands
upwards.
Slowly boiling the frog, as Iwas saying.
But you know, all of this aswell, like at the same time when
Google say you can't, you know,um sort of sideload things in,
it just seems everything, youknow, is you know, the the the

(01:27:55):
tech landscape's changing, andyou know, a lot of people are
trying to control what we dowith our tech, which I think is
a shame.
Anyway, um we've only got onestory left, as we have been
going on for quite a long time.
And I think this is one of yourstories, um Stephano, that you
um sent me a message aboutearlier in the week.

(01:28:18):
And let me change what I'msharing.
So so let me change screen and Iwill I will let you talk about
this one.
Damn it, I've got too manywindows open.
I'm sorry, everyone.
So I've got the YouTube windowopen um checking the stream and
it looks exactly the same as thethere we are.
So um Jam F to go privatefollowing a 2.2 billion

(01:28:40):
acquisition by FranciscoPartners, who are a private
equity firm.
Go for it, Stefano.
Tell us all about it, man.
Right.
I haven't, Stefano.
No, what's that?
You gotta you gotta what yeah.
Um didn't I hear they bought itfor about 50% more than what the
share price was or something?
Like it they paid quite apremium for it, didn't they?

(01:29:02):
Yeah.
So so I heard it was like 50%above valuation.
You've got to ask yourself whythey would pay 50% above, you
know.
I think they kind of realizethat, you know, because a lot of
kind of government and lot ofcompanies are shifting to uh to
Apple, aren't they?
And I think they realize thatit's kind of quite undervalued,
maybe, and so they were happy topay that, you know, thinking so

(01:29:26):
there's nothing, nothing else atall, Stephano, at all.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, the the track record ofprivate equity acquisitions and
tech is not exactly reassuring,is it?
You know, so hopefully theywon't cut costs and raise
prices.
Yeah, for sure.
I I said, like, hopefully theywon't just cut costs and raise
prices.
But you know.

(01:29:48):
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I guess we'll have to seehow it plays out.
Um we'll have to see how itplays out with that, but you
know, I'm pretty skepticalabout.
Add it.
Anyway, um, that is our lasttopic to speak about.
But I just want to remindeveryone um check out the new
Unraid merch.

(01:30:09):
Don't forget to check out theBlack Friday sale coming up.
Um what's oh hang on, let me Ihave to actually stop sharing
the screen so I can actually seethat.
Oh, you've got your candle.
Um Stephano's got his Unraidcandle.
Nice.
Did you get you you got you gottwo candles, did you?
Did you get the two?
Yeah, go on, tell tell me aboutit.
Yeah.
Uh have you lit it yet?

(01:30:31):
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
I was I was hoping it was goingto smell of fresh motherboards
or something or circuits.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would they let you play withfire, would they, Stefano?
Wow.
Sorry, Stefan.
Stefano can't make it thismonth.
He's died from lighting a candlein the server room.

(01:30:53):
It would be very sad.
I'd be very unhappy, Stefano.
Please don't do that.
Anyway, guys, um, that wraps itup for this month.
Um, we've covered unraidupdates, um concerning security
and privacy updates, regardlesschaos on both sides of the
Atlantic.

(01:31:13):
And if you've enjoyed the show,you know, please subscribe.
And if you haven't already, umwe'll wait to see you next time.
And thanks for listening,everyone.
Um, appreciate you spending yourSaturday with us.
Um, I'm trying to do my outromusic.