August 22, 2023 • 26 mins
What if your everyday routine could be the key to unlocking success and leadership growth?
Today's Uncommon Leader Podcast promises to unlock these secrets, with wisdom from distinguished guests and disciplines that have not only enhanced their mindset but transformed their daily lives.
In this special episode of The Uncommon Leader Podcast, I reflect on the second full year of the show and dive into the most popular episodes of the year. The theme of discipline emerges as a powerful thread running through the wisdom shared by my incredible guests. From thinking positively to exercising daily, eating healthy, working hard, building faith, reading more, and worrying less, these disciplines are the key to becoming an Uncommon Leader.
Hear about Craig Gini's inspiring voyage, Maria Francesconi's strategies for cultivating personal well-being, and Kellianne Thayer's insightful leadership methods.
I also hosted Mark Jewell CEO of Thrive Today, who shared his expertise on intentional certainty and its role in reaching success. Dr. John Jenkins, medical director for school based care at Cone Health, also joined us to emphasize the value of continuous learning and development for success. You won't want to miss motivational speaker and Guinness World Record holder, Matt Scoletti, who shares how a simple morning routine can maximize your day. And, there's more!
We examine the discipline required to foster growth in faith, work, and life. Just as we nourish our physical health, spiritual health also requires attention and care. Begin your leadership journey with us and be inspired by these discussions on discipline and personal stories. Remember, becoming an uncommon leader means embracing ordinary actions to yield extraordinary results.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, uncommon Leaders , welcome back.
This is the Uncommon LeaderPodcast and I'm your host, john
Gallagher.
As someone who definesdiscipline as doing what you
need to do when you need to doit, even when you don't feel
like it, I believe it is the keyto achieving what you truly
desire.
Reflecting on the second fullyear of the Uncommon Leader
Podcast, the theme of disciplineemerged as a powerful thread
(00:23):
running through many of our mostdownloaded episodes.
We see to become an UncommonLeader, we must consistently
embrace ordinary actions thatyield extraordinary results, a
path chosen by only a few.
In this special episode, I diveinto the most popular episodes
of the year.
Drawing from the wisdom sharedby many of my guests, I'll
explore the disciplines they'veincorporated into their daily
(00:45):
routines to think positively,exercise daily, eat healthy,
work hard, build faith, readmore and worry less.
It's a compilation thatpromises to inspire and
encourage.
I had the privilege of speakingwith exceptional individuals
who exemplify discipline inaction.
Year two of the Uncommon LeaderPodcast has been a resounding
(01:05):
success, thanks to ourincredible guests and the
unwavering support of listenerslike you.
Your feedback has beeninvaluable and I'm truly
grateful for your loyalty.
As I embark on year three, I'mcommitted to doubling the impact
, continuously earning your timeand delivering episodes that
bring value to your leadershipjourney.
Thank you for joining me onthis remarkable adventure.
(01:26):
Get ready to be inspired,encouraged and equipped by the
disciplines and stories we'llexplore together.
Let's get started.
Craig Genie, chiefTransformation Officer for
Collins Electrical Company inStockton, california, passively
shared his inspiring journey.
Maria Francis-Goni, chief ofNursing and Director of Health
(01:48):
Promotion and Education atHarvard University Health
Services in Cambridge,massachusetts, shared her
insights on fostering well-being.
What are some of thosedisciplines you've had to put in
place to make that work?
Because the listeners are likehow did she do that and what did
you do to really make that work?
So what are the things that youdo?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Great question, john.
I think in some of it I'llcredit you my conversations with
you through the years as well,to say that I think you've
really helped me think aboutsome very pragmatic ways in
which I can incorporate newdisciplines.
I think one of the first thingsthat I did was recognize that I
needed a way to remind myself toask more questions rather than
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have more answers and I guess Ishould apologize to your
listeners out there who are catlovers because you're not
talking to a cat lover, though Ido have two cats, because my
son, who's 10, loves his twocats, but they've never been my
favorite animal in the world.
(02:54):
And I was searching for some wayin which I could have a visual
reminder to myself in meetingsto ask more questions, and my
son had received posted notepadsin the shape of a cat, so
anyway.
So I decided that the best wayfor me to remember and I, in
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fact, I still carry thesepost-its everywhere with me and
tape it to my laptop as I'mmeeting the shape of a cat and
you know, curiosity killed thecat and so it is a good visual
cue for me continues to be thatI will say that I think I don't
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rely on it quite as much as Idid when I was first doing it.
It has become sort of almostjust like a sticker on my
computer these days, instead ofexactly what it started off to
be, but I do think it was ahelpful visual trigger for me to
really remember that in orderto ask good questions, you need
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to have some silence and youneed to be able to bring out
answers in other people ratherthan actually have answers to
myself, so that was somethingthat was really effective for me
.
I also found that having somekind of measurement, some kind
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of KPI, if you will that wasabout my own health and
well-being helped to keep me inthe right mindset through some
of the leadership challengesthat I experienced.
So and I know that you'll havelisteners who will debate about
the value of a Peloton- but, Ipurchased a Peloton about a year
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and a half ago not quite in thecraze of the Peloton, but
certainly as part of the Pelotonaddiction and I committed to a
level of working out that Ihadn't done previously as a way
to manage how I felt on aday-to-day basis, because I
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think we can all agree that inorder to be a good leader and to
be effective, you have to takecare of your own well-being
first.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think we can agree with that.
What if we can debate Peloton?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We can debate Peloton definitely Calories in calories
out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's what I usually talk about in terms of that,
and if that's the way you getthat fix, if you will you feel
better.
Absolutely Go at it right away,yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So I have a.
I still use it every day andinitially, when I was trying to
redefine myself as a leader,that became a simple way for me
to get used to setting a goal,keeping track of it, being able
to see something visually, andit just spurred on a number of
(05:55):
other changes in how I wasleading and how I was managing
even my time.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Kellyanne Thayer, director of Primary Care Access
Operations at HHS Health, shedlight on effective leadership
strategies.
So what's been a good habit foryou, or good behavior for you,
and what's been a bad habit or abad behavior that you had to
give up on as well?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So I think the easier one to call right out is
probably the harder of the two.
I think that as you grow as aleader and work to develop
others, I've had to give up morecontrol, which is a hard thing
to do, and again it gets to theyou're trusting others to take
(06:51):
on the work and still get towhere need to go, even if they
do in a slightly different waythan what you would have done,
and, within that, recognizingthat part of their growth is
there might be some missteps ormistakes and how far to let them
go so that they don't go offthe tracks and that you still
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give them a learning opportunityto course correct.
So I think that's been onething that I've had to learn.
That's been a little harder todo.
And then I would say one thingthat I've been pretty good at
(07:34):
and this is just foundationaland at the same time interesting
, because I didn't really learnthis until later in my
leadership career and it'sreally the rigor around prepping
for any sort of meetings, andthat's from start to finish
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what's the focus, what's thepurpose, who needs to be there,
how long do you need to completethe task.
And then the details on thebackend?
Who owns it?
When are they gonna have itdone?
Are there summary notes?
And that has been extremelysuccessful in a variety of
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things.
One, you've got a greatreference point to circle back
on when decisions have been made.
Accountability, when you havediscussions, and, I also think,
replication.
I think that's one thing when Ithink about some of the leaders
that I have underneath me andthe structure and you and I use
the government structure of howyour system or how your team
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works, and I think that that'sone thing that has been a very
consistent presence that hashelped us stay on the tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, it's Dr David K Butler, a physician, technology
executive and founder of KalexPartners, offered his expertise
in leveraging technology forhealthcare advancements In terms
of intentional personal growth.
What do you do to stay up onwhat's going?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
on, Absolutely.
So yeah, John, I have a thingI've been doing for quite a
while.
I usually pick about one day amonth, eight hours.
Everything's blocked.
I call it curd mode on my phone.
It's like close the curtain,curd mode, no distractions,
where I track couple of thingseach month I want to know a
little bit more about, andthat's that day I just retool,
(09:28):
right, and that's what I've beendoing with chat, GPT, things
like that.
I'm like, okay, what is this?
I'll do a deep dive, That'll bemy retool this week, month,
whatever.
Or I'll tag a couple of YouTubevideos or tweets or something
that I want to go back to, andthat's that day where I do that.
I just do a deep dive.
I get to get a generalunderstanding.
I think that you know I'm anaturally curious person.
So I just don't feel like Idon't like choosing lanes
(09:49):
sometimes, right, but inbusiness you have to.
So my lane and businessposition, EHR optimization,
engagement, anything, all thingsdigital that touch front lines.
You call Dave Butler, you knowWhether you're a vendor, you
know healthcare, whatever you'retrying to do, if it touched
front lines I can kind ofprobably help you understand how
best to make that frictionlessand slip into the workflow, so
it's a win-win.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Mark Jewel, the CEO of Thrive Today and a life coach
, brought his wealth ofknowledge on personal growth and
success.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
We describe this as an intentional certainty is
knowing that I know that I knowthat I can follow through, that
I can make this happen, that Ican execute on this and do a
very simple measurement withpeople.
So, if it, you know, let's sayit comes to delivering, you know
some tough feedback.
(10:41):
What's the level of certaintythat a manager has to be able to
lead that conversationeffectively?
Right, if that score is too low, then we probably should do a
little role-play, we should do alittle training, a little skill
training.
Right, go watch some YouTubevideos about how to do that
better.
Because what happens is whenyou take that extra 10 minutes
to go watch something on YouTube, like you come away you're a
little bit more certain goinginto that conversation and you
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lead that person better.
So, taking the pause and likeinvesting a little bit of time
into some skill development, andit immediately increases the
certainty.
Okay, but another way and thisis we break this down really in
depth in our training programsAre you familiar with, like, the
Kaizen principle, manufacturing, right, that's been my life for
(11:25):
25 years.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's why the production system and lean
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Yeah.
So we sort of take that sameconcept, like we define.
I think this is pretty close tothe actual definition, but
small, seemingly insignificant.
Never ending improvement.
Small, seemingly insignificant,just getting a little bit
better doing things almostnobody would notice every single
day.
So what we do is we actuallyhelp people break down their
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goals, whatever the thing is.
Okay, let's say it's I want tobe a better team, team manager,
team leader, and you're at thatlevel, kind of a mid level
manager role.
So what are the?
What are the little tiny thingsthat almost nobody would notice
that you need to do every dayto be good at the job?
So if you work, you know youcan just take a yellow notepad
right now or take your notes onyour phone and start breaking
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down like, what are the littletiny things that almost nobody
sees that you do every day thatare essential to making that job
work?
And those become our dailyprotocols, our intentional
protocols that we do every day.
Okay, absolutely.
And so I've got a series ofthose that are like my sales, my
daily sales protocols, and thelist is kind of long, but what
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I've timed myself and I got itdown where I can do it in about
45 minutes to an hour Now, whenI do these little, little tiny
things that nobody, you know,almost nobody, would notice if I
didn't do them today ortomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
My conversation with Dr John Jenkins, medical
director for school based careat Cone Health, was both
insightful and enjoyable.
John, you're a leader who'sfocused on continuous
improvement.
You always have been, and Iwonder what do you do today as a
discipline to stay up on allthis change that's going on in
healthcare and positionleadership and all those things?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So I have been known as Dr Google, and so there is a
certain part of reading that isrequired of any professional to
keep up to date.
I continue with my boardcertification, even though I'm
not an active direct patientcare at this time.
So I take my tests and I'mactually in a continuous MOC
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maintenance of my boardcertification and then I
participate in learningopportunities, which are key.
Learning never stops.
When learning stops, you becomestagnant, and one of the things
that I've learned is that myknowledge base right now is that
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much.
The knowledge base I haveaccess to is that much, and the
knowledge base that I have noidea exists is that much.
And so being open to the factthat I need to continuously
learn and that I'm going tolearn some things that challenge
and disturb me and really kindof shake what I thought I
believed, but then I'm going tohave to really look at that and
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say, hey, what is this, what?
Why am I feeling uncomfortablewith this and what do I need to
change to accept it or what do Ineed to identify in it that is
dangerous?
And these sorts of processesare the process of critical
thinking, and that's what youknow, to quote still magnolias.
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That's what separates us fromthe animals.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I had the pleasure of hosting Matt Scaletti, an
author, motivational speaker andGuinness World Record holder,
whose energy left a lastingimpact.
What is it that you use inmindset today that?
What disciplines do you use tomaintain that positive mindset?
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Yeah, that's a really good question and I think to
the point about the book and Iappreciate you sharing that.
I talk about maximizing thebook ends of your day a lot and
I'm sure you're very similar andI think the first time I read
about that was the compoundeffect.
I think Darren Hardy I think hetalks about it a little bit
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Just owning the night before andthen owning the morning, and I
think owning the morning startswith.
For me it started with beingsober.
I had to not wake up hungoverbecause I was already behind and
then I was a big snoozer so Iwould snooze three, four, five
times.
By the time I had the lastsnooze went off, it was I was
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already running late for workand I'm already stressed, but it
was.
It was on me.
I had the ability to changethat.
So I think a big part of mymindset has to do with the
routine.
The morning routine is a hugedeal for me.
So I'm a 430 am guy, likebetween 430 and 730 in the
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morning.
That's my favorite part of theday and I think it's because
it's just me and it's on me tomaximize that.
But then, as we said, itcarries over into the rest of
the day.
I was just talking to a friendabout this yesterday.
I'm a totally different person.
If I had just woken up a halfan hour before this podcast and
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I stayed up late last nightwatching Netflix I would
probably not bring the sameenergy and enthusiasm and
confidence as I have right now.
I'm a big believer in owningthe morning routine and then the
night routine to just crush inthat which is the rest of the
day.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What are some of the things that are in your morning
routine right now, matt?
What do you do?
I mean, I kind of know someonebecause I follow you on social
media and I'm going to put yoursocial media links in there and
I like them but share with thelisteners some of the unique
things you do, from gettingready to get ready for your day.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Yeah, so the first thing I do and this actually
happened during COVID, becauseI'm sure, like a lot of people
listening or maybe not,hopefully not but I know a lot
of us went through difficulttime and I was waking up at 5 am
and it was just kind of like,oh, just doing the same thing
over again because there'snothing to do.
So I started doing a little.
(17:23):
I started waking up to goodmusic and what happened was I
would start dancing when I heargood music, and so the first
thing I do for a couple of years, basically since March of 2020,
is for sometimes it's fiveseconds, sometimes it's the
whole song, but I will wake upto a song I love and just start
moving my body and start dancing.
(17:44):
A lot of times it's extremelysilly.
I record some of them, as I'msure you've seen, but it just
puts me in a good mood.
I can't help but smile when I'mdancing to a good song right
after I get up, and then Ialways do a quick prayer right
after that, and then, typically,I'll drink a glass of lemon
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water, do a little meditationand then I filled ice in my cold
plunge.
I have this, as I know, you knowthis cold plunge on my balcony.
I dump a bunch of ice in itbefore I go work out so that
when I come back it is freezingand ready for me to jump in.
But then I'm off to the gym ora run or some sort of physical
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workout and then as soon as Icome back, every time without
hesitation, I take my shoes andsocks off, take my shirt off and
jump into this cold plunge forfive minutes.
And it's horrible.
Every time I do it when I leavethe gym and I'm walking
upstairs back to my apartment,I'm always thinking, oh my
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goodness, I got to do this again.
But that's just part of thediscipline.
It's like I don't care if it's20 degrees out, whatever the
temperature is.
I'm in this thing and it reallybeen a game changer, not only
just for the inflammation andthe physical benefits.
I think the mentality and themindset has been the biggest
benefit that I've had.
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And then, after that, healthybreakfast and do some reading
and then getting ready to crushthe day.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Craig Genie, Chief Transformation Officer for
Collins Electrical Company inStockton, California, passively
shared his inspiring journey.
What are some of thedisciplines that you've had to
put in place for your owndevelopment to make you a better
leader?
We refer to it sometimes as theleader standard work, but what
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are some of the daily or weeklydisciplines that you're working
to do to become more successfulat growing others?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, I used to watch my brother do this, and you
have a phrase that you've coinedand I always used to say be a
thief.
But you told me a different one, which is swipe, to steal with
integrity practically everything.
I watched my brother dosomething and I called it
butterflying, walking aroundeverybody.
Hey, how are you doing?
(20:10):
How are you doing Makingtouches?
And so when I moved here, itwas very important for me to
make touches with everybody twoto three times, four times a
week, and it's themunderstanding that there are
some owners that are veryuntouchable.
We're not like that.
We don't want that in any wayshape form.
I want to know the people thatI work with.
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When I go to them, I make it apoint to look them in the eyes
and we do a little fist bump.
That's my thing.
I do a fist bump, but it'slooking in the eyes.
You can do a fist bump and thenwalk away, but when you look
somebody in the eye and youtouch, there's an energy that's
transferred.
So that's one of the thingsthat I do.
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I try to do, at least here inour corporate office, and when
we go to some of our otherbranches, I go to see everybody
in the office.
It's always non-negotiable.
You need to say hello toeverybody, find out how they're
doing so.
That's one thing.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I love that, the butterfly Love that Chris
Granger, the founder of the LionWithin us, brought an
encouraging perspective to ourdiscussions.
To grow in our faith, it takesdiscipline.
To grow in our maturity, ittakes discipline to grow in our
work life as well.
How do you intentionally growwho you are today, both in your
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faith and in your work, and inyour life as a husband as well
and father?
Speaker 8 (21:37):
We don't like that word, discipline as man, that's
right.
Oh, I mean, that's justsomething we don't like.
But I mean, really to be aneffective leader, you have to.
You have to step up and say,all right, I'm committing to
this, I'm going to make ithappen.
Prime example from a healthstandpoint my oldest daughter.
She's 12 now.
She'll be 13 this year.
When she was born I was 330pounds and right now sitting
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around 200.
Do I have some more to lose?
Sure, there's always a few morepounds to lose, but I mean,
that's still.
That's a pretty good.
I've lost a person.
Basically, right, absolutely so.
Was that easy?
No, it's just, it's basic.
It is discipline.
You know you have to get upevery day.
You have to eat right, you haveto get.
You know, get that exercise in,and now I've learned to wear
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it's like that's the thing thatfuels me, is that time we're
doing the workouts and stufflike that.
But it's that applieseverywhere in life.
You know, if you from, it'seasy to make that connection
from a man standpoint, from agym and working out, but just
tie it to your, to yourspiritual life.
You know how disciplined are youon spending time in the world?
Because so many times we expect, as Christians, that we just
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want to go, a typical Christianman while I go to church.
All right, brother, what areyou doing between that's, that
one hour on Sunday, and when yougo back the next Sunday?
Well, I mean, I go to church,Chris.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
Well, how about this big boy?
How about you only eat for thatone hour on Sunday and you tell
me when you're gonna be hungry?
You can be hungry before you goback next Sunday.
(23:02):
Well, yeah, that doesn't makeany sense.
My brother, it's the same thing.
It's we.
We had to feed ourselvesspiritually because we in
America, we got this idea whereyou know what, it's the pastor's
job to teach my kids.
It's the pastor's job to showme, to feed me.
We show up at these churches,we're all baby Christians
feeding me, feeding me, feedingme.
I'm like, no, bro, that ain'tit like.
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We're here to learn and toserve.
And that one hour, that's it.
For me, that's just like alittle vitamin.
I mean, that is not my meal.
You know I'm getting.
I'm feeding myself.
And people tell me all the timeWell, you know, reading a word,
I don't know where to start.
I'm like, look, just startanywhere, just get in the word I
may.
I definitely have places Irecommend guys to start if they
want, if we want to talk aboutthat.
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But I'm like, look, just beobedient to being in a word and
well, I don't get anything fromit.
I'm like, what ain't about you?
I mean, what do you mean aboutme?
Because it's not about you, isabout Worshiping and serving him
.
So why don't you just beobedient to start with, be
disciplined, like you're talkingabout, and then see what the
Holy Spirit does to you?
Maybe just start with theproverb a day.
You know, that's a lesson, easyway.
I usually start with guys right,just start a proverb a day and
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then, next thing, you know, seehow you can actually apply that
proverb a day.
And we read it, read the word,ask yourself three questions
what happened, so what?
And now what?
And get to the now what?
Because we got to get there,all right.
Now, what are we gonna do withthis and how can we actually
apply this to our life?
And when you start reading theBible that way, it's truly
spending some time in the word,not just doing a little you
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version thing or something likethat, which all that stuff's
cool.
I'm talking about really tryingto grow man.
You're gonna be surprised whathe shows you.
You know, and it's very firstthing, I ask a lot guys, a lot
of times just how much are youspending in the word?
How much time are you becauseyou're expecting to just get
that one little Multivitaminfrom your pastor and to be
growing?
As you know, you wouldn'texpect that, right, you would.
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You would never just eat onemeal and Expect to be full
throughout the week.
So for me, that discipline, itapplies in all these areas and
we try to tattoo to Bible Helpguys.
Okay, how do we take this andapply it to our life?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
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Hey, uncommon Leaders , welcome back.
This is the Uncommon LeaderPodcast and I'm your host, john
Gallagher.
As someone who definesdiscipline as doing what you
need to do when you need to doit, even when you don't feel
like it, I believe it is the keyto achieving what you truly
desire.
Reflecting on the second fullyear of the Uncommon Leader
Podcast, the theme of disciplineemerged as a powerful thread
(00:23):
running through many of our mostdownloaded episodes.
We see to become an UncommonLeader, we must consistently
embrace ordinary actions thatyield extraordinary results, a
path chosen by only a few.
In this special episode, I diveinto the most popular episodes
of the year.
Drawing from the wisdom sharedby many of my guests, I'll
explore the disciplines they'veincorporated into their daily
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routines to think positively,exercise daily, eat healthy,
work hard, build faith, readmore and worry less.
It's a compilation thatpromises to inspire and
encourage.
I had the privilege of speakingwith exceptional individuals
who exemplify discipline inaction.
Year two of the Uncommon LeaderPodcast has been a resounding
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success, thanks to ourincredible guests and the
unwavering support of listenerslike you.
Your feedback has beeninvaluable and I'm truly
grateful for your loyalty.
As I embark on year three, I'mcommitted to doubling the impact
, continuously earning your timeand delivering episodes that
bring value to your leadershipjourney.
Thank you for joining me onthis remarkable adventure.
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Get ready to be inspired,encouraged and equipped by the
disciplines and stories we'llexplore together.
Let's get started.
Craig Genie, chiefTransformation Officer for
Collins Electrical Company inStockton, california, passively
shared his inspiring journey.
Maria Francis-Goni, chief ofNursing and Director of Health
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Promotion and Education atHarvard University Health
Services in Cambridge,massachusetts, shared her
insights on fostering well-being.
What are some of thosedisciplines you've had to put in
place to make that work?
Because the listeners are likehow did she do that and what did
you do to really make that work?
So what are the things that youdo?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Great question, john.
I think in some of it I'llcredit you my conversations with
you through the years as well,to say that I think you've
really helped me think aboutsome very pragmatic ways in
which I can incorporate newdisciplines.
I think one of the first thingsthat I did was recognize that I
needed a way to remind myself toask more questions rather than
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have more answers and I guess Ishould apologize to your
listeners out there who are catlovers because you're not
talking to a cat lover, though Ido have two cats, because my
son, who's 10, loves his twocats, but they've never been my
favorite animal in the world.
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And I was searching for some wayin which I could have a visual
reminder to myself in meetingsto ask more questions, and my
son had received posted notepadsin the shape of a cat, so
anyway.
So I decided that the best wayfor me to remember and I, in
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fact, I still carry thesepost-its everywhere with me and
tape it to my laptop as I'mmeeting the shape of a cat and
you know, curiosity killed thecat and so it is a good visual
cue for me continues to be thatI will say that I think I don't
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rely on it quite as much as Idid when I was first doing it.
It has become sort of almostjust like a sticker on my
computer these days, instead ofexactly what it started off to
be, but I do think it was ahelpful visual trigger for me to
really remember that in orderto ask good questions, you need
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to have some silence and youneed to be able to bring out
answers in other people ratherthan actually have answers to
myself, so that was somethingthat was really effective for me
.
I also found that having somekind of measurement, some kind
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of KPI, if you will that wasabout my own health and
well-being helped to keep me inthe right mindset through some
of the leadership challengesthat I experienced.
So and I know that you'll havelisteners who will debate about
the value of a Peloton- but, Ipurchased a Peloton about a year
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and a half ago not quite in thecraze of the Peloton, but
certainly as part of the Pelotonaddiction and I committed to a
level of working out that Ihadn't done previously as a way
to manage how I felt on aday-to-day basis, because I
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think we can all agree that inorder to be a good leader and to
be effective, you have to takecare of your own well-being
first.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think we can agree with that.
What if we can debate Peloton?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We can debate Peloton definitely Calories in calories
out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's what I usually talk about in terms of that,
and if that's the way you getthat fix, if you will you feel
better.
Absolutely Go at it right away,yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So I have a.
I still use it every day andinitially, when I was trying to
redefine myself as a leader,that became a simple way for me
to get used to setting a goal,keeping track of it, being able
to see something visually, andit just spurred on a number of
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other changes in how I wasleading and how I was managing
even my time.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Kellyanne Thayer, director of Primary Care Access
Operations at HHS Health, shedlight on effective leadership
strategies.
So what's been a good habit foryou, or good behavior for you,
and what's been a bad habit or abad behavior that you had to
give up on as well?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So I think the easier one to call right out is
probably the harder of the two.
I think that as you grow as aleader and work to develop
others, I've had to give up morecontrol, which is a hard thing
to do, and again it gets to theyou're trusting others to take
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on the work and still get towhere need to go, even if they
do in a slightly different waythan what you would have done,
and, within that, recognizingthat part of their growth is
there might be some missteps ormistakes and how far to let them
go so that they don't go offthe tracks and that you still
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give them a learning opportunityto course correct.
So I think that's been onething that I've had to learn.
That's been a little harder todo.
And then I would say one thingthat I've been pretty good at
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and this is just foundationaland at the same time interesting
, because I didn't really learnthis until later in my
leadership career and it'sreally the rigor around prepping
for any sort of meetings, andthat's from start to finish
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what's the focus, what's thepurpose, who needs to be there,
how long do you need to completethe task.
And then the details on thebackend?
Who owns it?
When are they gonna have itdone?
Are there summary notes?
And that has been extremelysuccessful in a variety of
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things.
One, you've got a greatreference point to circle back
on when decisions have been made.
Accountability, when you havediscussions, and, I also think,
replication.
I think that's one thing when Ithink about some of the leaders
that I have underneath me andthe structure and you and I use
the government structure of howyour system or how your team
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works, and I think that that'sone thing that has been a very
consistent presence that hashelped us stay on the tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, it's Dr David K Butler, a physician, technology
executive and founder of KalexPartners, offered his expertise
in leveraging technology forhealthcare advancements In terms
of intentional personal growth.
What do you do to stay up onwhat's going?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
on, Absolutely.
So yeah, John, I have a thingI've been doing for quite a
while.
I usually pick about one day amonth, eight hours.
Everything's blocked.
I call it curd mode on my phone.
It's like close the curtain,curd mode, no distractions,
where I track couple of thingseach month I want to know a
little bit more about, andthat's that day I just retool,
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right, and that's what I've beendoing with chat, GPT, things
like that.
I'm like, okay, what is this?
I'll do a deep dive, That'll bemy retool this week, month,
whatever.
Or I'll tag a couple of YouTubevideos or tweets or something
that I want to go back to, andthat's that day where I do that.
I just do a deep dive.
I get to get a generalunderstanding.
I think that you know I'm anaturally curious person.
So I just don't feel like Idon't like choosing lanes
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sometimes, right, but inbusiness you have to.
So my lane and businessposition, EHR optimization,
engagement, anything, all thingsdigital that touch front lines.
You call Dave Butler, you knowWhether you're a vendor, you
know healthcare, whatever you'retrying to do, if it touched
front lines I can kind ofprobably help you understand how
best to make that frictionlessand slip into the workflow, so
it's a win-win.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Mark Jewel, the CEO of Thrive Today and a life coach
, brought his wealth ofknowledge on personal growth and
success.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
We describe this as an intentional certainty is
knowing that I know that I knowthat I can follow through, that
I can make this happen, that Ican execute on this and do a
very simple measurement withpeople.
So, if it, you know, let's sayit comes to delivering, you know
some tough feedback.
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What's the level of certaintythat a manager has to be able to
lead that conversationeffectively?
Right, if that score is too low, then we probably should do a
little role-play, we should do alittle training, a little skill
training.
Right, go watch some YouTubevideos about how to do that
better.
Because what happens is whenyou take that extra 10 minutes
to go watch something on YouTube, like you come away you're a
little bit more certain goinginto that conversation and you
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lead that person better.
So, taking the pause and likeinvesting a little bit of time
into some skill development, andit immediately increases the
certainty.
Okay, but another way and thisis we break this down really in
depth in our training programsAre you familiar with, like, the
Kaizen principle, manufacturing, right, that's been my life for
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25 years.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's why the production system and lean
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Yeah.
So we sort of take that sameconcept, like we define.
I think this is pretty close tothe actual definition, but
small, seemingly insignificant.
Never ending improvement.
Small, seemingly insignificant,just getting a little bit
better doing things almostnobody would notice every single
day.
So what we do is we actuallyhelp people break down their
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goals, whatever the thing is.
Okay, let's say it's I want tobe a better team, team manager,
team leader, and you're at thatlevel, kind of a mid level
manager role.
So what are the?
What are the little tiny thingsthat almost nobody would notice
that you need to do every dayto be good at the job?
So if you work, you know youcan just take a yellow notepad
right now or take your notes onyour phone and start breaking
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down like, what are the littletiny things that almost nobody
sees that you do every day thatare essential to making that job
work?
And those become our dailyprotocols, our intentional
protocols that we do every day.
Okay, absolutely.
And so I've got a series ofthose that are like my sales, my
daily sales protocols, and thelist is kind of long, but what
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I've timed myself and I got itdown where I can do it in about
45 minutes to an hour Now, whenI do these little, little tiny
things that nobody, you know,almost nobody, would notice if I
didn't do them today ortomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
My conversation with Dr John Jenkins, medical
director for school based careat Cone Health, was both
insightful and enjoyable.
John, you're a leader who'sfocused on continuous
improvement.
You always have been, and Iwonder what do you do today as a
discipline to stay up on allthis change that's going on in
healthcare and positionleadership and all those things?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So I have been known as Dr Google, and so there is a
certain part of reading that isrequired of any professional to
keep up to date.
I continue with my boardcertification, even though I'm
not an active direct patientcare at this time.
So I take my tests and I'mactually in a continuous MOC
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maintenance of my boardcertification and then I
participate in learningopportunities, which are key.
Learning never stops.
When learning stops, you becomestagnant, and one of the things
that I've learned is that myknowledge base right now is that
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much.
The knowledge base I haveaccess to is that much, and the
knowledge base that I have noidea exists is that much.
And so being open to the factthat I need to continuously
learn and that I'm going tolearn some things that challenge
and disturb me and really kindof shake what I thought I
believed, but then I'm going tohave to really look at that and
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say, hey, what is this, what?
Why am I feeling uncomfortablewith this and what do I need to
change to accept it or what do Ineed to identify in it that is
dangerous?
And these sorts of processesare the process of critical
thinking, and that's what youknow, to quote still magnolias.
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That's what separates us fromthe animals.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I had the pleasure of hosting Matt Scaletti, an
author, motivational speaker andGuinness World Record holder,
whose energy left a lastingimpact.
What is it that you use inmindset today that?
What disciplines do you use tomaintain that positive mindset?
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Yeah, that's a really good question and I think to
the point about the book and Iappreciate you sharing that.
I talk about maximizing thebook ends of your day a lot and
I'm sure you're very similar andI think the first time I read
about that was the compoundeffect.
I think Darren Hardy I think hetalks about it a little bit
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Just owning the night before andthen owning the morning, and I
think owning the morning startswith.
For me it started with beingsober.
I had to not wake up hungoverbecause I was already behind and
then I was a big snoozer so Iwould snooze three, four, five
times.
By the time I had the lastsnooze went off, it was I was
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already running late for workand I'm already stressed, but it
was.
It was on me.
I had the ability to changethat.
So I think a big part of mymindset has to do with the
routine.
The morning routine is a hugedeal for me.
So I'm a 430 am guy, likebetween 430 and 730 in the
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morning.
That's my favorite part of theday and I think it's because
it's just me and it's on me tomaximize that.
But then, as we said, itcarries over into the rest of
the day.
I was just talking to a friendabout this yesterday.
I'm a totally different person.
If I had just woken up a halfan hour before this podcast and
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I stayed up late last nightwatching Netflix I would
probably not bring the sameenergy and enthusiasm and
confidence as I have right now.
I'm a big believer in owningthe morning routine and then the
night routine to just crush inthat which is the rest of the
day.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What are some of the things that are in your morning
routine right now, matt?
What do you do?
I mean, I kind of know someonebecause I follow you on social
media and I'm going to put yoursocial media links in there and
I like them but share with thelisteners some of the unique
things you do, from gettingready to get ready for your day.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Yeah, so the first thing I do and this actually
happened during COVID, becauseI'm sure, like a lot of people
listening or maybe not,hopefully not but I know a lot
of us went through difficulttime and I was waking up at 5 am
and it was just kind of like,oh, just doing the same thing
over again because there'snothing to do.
So I started doing a little.
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I started waking up to goodmusic and what happened was I
would start dancing when I heargood music, and so the first
thing I do for a couple of years, basically since March of 2020,
is for sometimes it's fiveseconds, sometimes it's the
whole song, but I will wake upto a song I love and just start
moving my body and start dancing.
(17:44):
A lot of times it's extremelysilly.
I record some of them, as I'msure you've seen, but it just
puts me in a good mood.
I can't help but smile when I'mdancing to a good song right
after I get up, and then Ialways do a quick prayer right
after that, and then, typically,I'll drink a glass of lemon
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water, do a little meditationand then I filled ice in my cold
plunge.
I have this, as I know, you knowthis cold plunge on my balcony.
I dump a bunch of ice in itbefore I go work out so that
when I come back it is freezingand ready for me to jump in.
But then I'm off to the gym ora run or some sort of physical
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workout and then as soon as Icome back, every time without
hesitation, I take my shoes andsocks off, take my shirt off and
jump into this cold plunge forfive minutes.
And it's horrible.
Every time I do it when I leavethe gym and I'm walking
upstairs back to my apartment,I'm always thinking, oh my
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goodness, I got to do this again.
But that's just part of thediscipline.
It's like I don't care if it's20 degrees out, whatever the
temperature is.
I'm in this thing and it reallybeen a game changer, not only
just for the inflammation andthe physical benefits.
I think the mentality and themindset has been the biggest
benefit that I've had.
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And then, after that, healthybreakfast and do some reading
and then getting ready to crushthe day.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Craig Genie, Chief Transformation Officer for
Collins Electrical Company inStockton, California, passively
shared his inspiring journey.
What are some of thedisciplines that you've had to
put in place for your owndevelopment to make you a better
leader?
We refer to it sometimes as theleader standard work, but what
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are some of the daily or weeklydisciplines that you're working
to do to become more successfulat growing others?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, I used to watch my brother do this, and you
have a phrase that you've coinedand I always used to say be a
thief.
But you told me a different one, which is swipe, to steal with
integrity practically everything.
I watched my brother dosomething and I called it
butterflying, walking aroundeverybody.
Hey, how are you doing?
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How are you doing Makingtouches?
And so when I moved here, itwas very important for me to
make touches with everybody twoto three times, four times a
week, and it's themunderstanding that there are
some owners that are veryuntouchable.
We're not like that.
We don't want that in any wayshape form.
I want to know the people thatI work with.
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When I go to them, I make it apoint to look them in the eyes
and we do a little fist bump.
That's my thing.
I do a fist bump, but it'slooking in the eyes.
You can do a fist bump and thenwalk away, but when you look
somebody in the eye and youtouch, there's an energy that's
transferred.
So that's one of the thingsthat I do.
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I try to do, at least here inour corporate office, and when
we go to some of our otherbranches, I go to see everybody
in the office.
It's always non-negotiable.
You need to say hello toeverybody, find out how they're
doing so.
That's one thing.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I love that, the butterfly Love that Chris
Granger, the founder of the LionWithin us, brought an
encouraging perspective to ourdiscussions.
To grow in our faith, it takesdiscipline.
To grow in our maturity, ittakes discipline to grow in our
work life as well.
How do you intentionally growwho you are today, both in your
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faith and in your work, and inyour life as a husband as well
and father?
Speaker 8 (21:37):
We don't like that word, discipline as man, that's
right.
Oh, I mean, that's justsomething we don't like.
But I mean, really to be aneffective leader, you have to.
You have to step up and say,all right, I'm committing to
this, I'm going to make ithappen.
Prime example from a healthstandpoint my oldest daughter.
She's 12 now.
She'll be 13 this year.
When she was born I was 330pounds and right now sitting
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around 200.
Do I have some more to lose?
Sure, there's always a few morepounds to lose, but I mean,
that's still.
That's a pretty good.
I've lost a person.
Basically, right, absolutely so.
Was that easy?
No, it's just, it's basic.
It is discipline.
You know you have to get upevery day.
You have to eat right, you haveto get.
You know, get that exercise in,and now I've learned to wear
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it's like that's the thing thatfuels me, is that time we're
doing the workouts and stufflike that.
But it's that applieseverywhere in life.
You know, if you from, it'seasy to make that connection
from a man standpoint, from agym and working out, but just
tie it to your, to yourspiritual life.
You know how disciplined are youon spending time in the world?
Because so many times we expect, as Christians, that we just
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want to go, a typical Christianman while I go to church.
All right, brother, what areyou doing between that's, that
one hour on Sunday, and when yougo back the next Sunday?
Well, I mean, I go to church,Chris.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
Well, how about this big boy?
How about you only eat for thatone hour on Sunday and you tell
me when you're gonna be hungry?
You can be hungry before you goback next Sunday.
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Well, yeah, that doesn't makeany sense.
My brother, it's the same thing.
It's we.
We had to feed ourselvesspiritually because we in
America, we got this idea whereyou know what, it's the pastor's
job to teach my kids.
It's the pastor's job to showme, to feed me.
We show up at these churches,we're all baby Christians
feeding me, feeding me, feedingme.
I'm like, no, bro, that ain'tit like.
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We're here to learn and toserve.
And that one hour, that's it.
For me, that's just like alittle vitamin.
I mean, that is not my meal.
You know I'm getting.
I'm feeding myself.
And people tell me all the timeWell, you know, reading a word,
I don't know where to start.
I'm like, look, just startanywhere, just get in the word I
may.
I definitely have places Irecommend guys to start if they
want, if we want to talk aboutthat.
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But I'm like, look, just beobedient to being in a word and
well, I don't get anything fromit.
I'm like, what ain't about you?
I mean, what do you mean aboutme?
Because it's not about you, isabout Worshiping and serving him
.
So why don't you just beobedient to start with, be
disciplined, like you're talkingabout, and then see what the
Holy Spirit does to you?
Maybe just start with theproverb a day.
You know, that's a lesson, easyway.
I usually start with guys right,just start a proverb a day and
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then, next thing, you know, seehow you can actually apply that
proverb a day.
And we read it, read the word,ask yourself three questions
what happened, so what?
And now what?
And get to the now what?
Because we got to get there,all right.
Now, what are we gonna do withthis and how can we actually
apply this to our life?
And when you start reading theBible that way, it's truly
spending some time in the word,not just doing a little you
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version thing or something likethat, which all that stuff's
cool.
I'm talking about really tryingto grow man.
You're gonna be surprised whathe shows you.
You know, and it's very firstthing, I ask a lot guys, a lot
of times just how much are youspending in the word?
How much time are you becauseyou're expecting to just get
that one little Multivitaminfrom your pastor and to be
growing?
As you know, you wouldn'texpect that, right, you would.
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You would never just eat onemeal and Expect to be full
throughout the week.
So for me, that discipline, itapplies in all these areas and
we try to tattoo to Bible Helpguys.
Okay, how do we take this andapply it to our life?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
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