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February 22, 2022 45 mins

Host Jay Ellis is a fan of crime scene investigation TV shows - he’s even acted in
them! But in this episode, he learns that all the fancy forensic science the heroes
of those shows use to solve crimes are not as good as they seem on TV. Jay speaks
to experts about how forensic practices were developed and why they aren’t the
reliable science they seem to be. He takes listeners on a field trip to the one
forensic lab in the country that’s getting it right and speaks with a woman who
spent 13 years in prison for a crime she didn’t commit because of bad forensic
evidence used against her at trial.

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