Mr. Mocha, cohost of the Ofacez Podcast, joins the show to share his journey into the lifestyle as a black bull and swinger with his wife. He shares his hilarious story of how he was thrown into his first cuckolding dynamic scenario with his boss and his boss's wife and how that experience shaped his curiosity and eventually his love for being a black bull in the lifestyle. He also opens up about how he met his wife and ecouraged her to be sexually free and uninhibited and how that led to them hosting parties and becoming a host couple for Splash Mocha events.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Here's what's coming up on the show.
He obeys, walks over, take yourpants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
I'm fucking her.
He's standing in front of her,takes his pants down, so he's
got him down like to his knees.
So she grabs his dick and itdoesn't even make it to her
mouth before he fucking comesall over the place.
Shit, she snaps.
(00:39):
This is why you have such amiserable.
And I'm fucking her and I'mlike, oh my God, he's going to
beat her up Like while I'mfucking her, and he starts oh
honey, I'm so sorry.
And he's going through this.
I apologize and I know I'mmiserable.
No one has given me any clue atwhat kind of game we're playing
here.
I'm literally inside of thiswoman while she's saying this
(01:03):
and like I start going down,like I start dick start getting
a little soft.
I'm like what the fuck is goingon here?
I'm going to have to protectthis lady with my dick out.
This is about to get reallyweird.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This is the Venus Cuckoldris Podcast, a place to
learn all things cuckolding forthe curious, for the passionate
and for the sexually empoweredwoman who wants it all.
Let's go.
(01:43):
Welcome to the show.
I'm your host, venus.
Thanks for joining me today.
Let's go.
That's where I met him, and sohe's going to be talking about
(02:03):
how he's been a black bull inthe lifestyle for many years.
So he's got a lot ofinformation about what that's
been like.
But he's going to share hisstory about how he was kind of
like thrown into the cuckoldingthing.
Like the story is so crazy it'shilarious.
But also he's going to talkabout what his journey has been
like and his incredible marriageto the most incredible, amazing
(02:29):
wife, mrs Mocha.
So he's going to talk all aboutthat and we're going to be
talking about the hotel takeoverparties that are interracial.
That is a Splash Mocha event.
So we're going to talk aboutwhat that looks like, what that
feels like mocha event.
So we're going to talk aboutwhat that looks like, what that
feels like and some tips forcouples, for guys, and the ever
(02:51):
increasing popularity ofinterracial in the lifestyle.
So it's going to be an awesomeconversation.
But first I have a couple ofannouncements.
So the first one is I havejoined Blue Sky Social.
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hate Twitter X whatever youwant to call it, and Blue Sky
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(03:12):
I've been on it now for like aweek and I like it.
I just like Twitter, minus allthe garbage and, yes, it does
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So this is all very importantto you guys that are listening.
You're like, but Twitter'swhere the cuck porn is.
Yeah, fucking know about that.
Okay, I get it.
But now there's somewhere elsethat will keep you very happy, I
(03:36):
promise.
So my handle on there is atCuckoldressV same handle as
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(03:59):
find it there, all right.
Last but not least, I did abonus episode recently with the
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and we tackled a listenerquestion which was all about
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(04:22):
on interracial porn and hereally, really wants his wife to
, you know, cuck him with blackguys, but like she is not into
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And so he's really stuckbecause he feels, like he he
absolutely has to have that andin order to be happy and
fulfilled in his life, and andbut he's just he doesn't know
(04:45):
what to do.
So this is a question I getasked often, or I've heard of
often, where you kind of havethis incompatibility and what do
you do?
So, crystal and I, we tackledthis question and our answers
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Okay, that's it forannouncements.
Now let's jump into today's showwith Mr Mocha.
(05:52):
Here we go, joining me on theshow.
I have a special guest, mrMocha.
I'm so excited to have you here.
Show I have a special guest, mrMocha, I'm so excited to have
you here.
He is the co-host, with hiswife, of the oh Faces podcast,
and him and his wife are a hostcouple for the Splash Mocha
(06:15):
events.
You may have heard me talkabout that on the show before,
so welcome Mr Mocha to the show.
Say hello to all the listeners.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hello everyone and Venus, thank you for having me
on.
I'm excited to be here.
Always, any excuse I have tosee your face, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, and so for all of you listening right now, you
need to be watching the video onYouTube, because this guy is
sexy as fuck.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You're making my cheeks turn red.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
He's so hot like damn .
I'm just like it's gonna bereally difficult to do this
interview.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm not gonna lie, because this is a mutual thing
like I'm just staring at, I'mjust looking at you, so I'm, I'm
good here.
Make sure you give me goodquestions or I'll be distracted
by you, venus I'm gonna my best,but I'm already flustered, so
let's just jump right in.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, lucky Mrs Mocha , you guys are married.
And how long have you been inthis lifestyle for?
How did it all start out foryou?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So I've been in the lifestyle since I was 23.
Been in the lifestyle since Iwas 23.
I was introduced to lifestylebefore Mrs Mocha and I got
together, so I was actuallyintroduced by a coworker and I
had no idea what it was.
I mean, I'd worked with him forquite a while and we were all
(07:39):
out having drinks after work andwe'd done this a million times.
And we're all drunk and hecomes up and tells me his wife
likes me.
And I'm like, oh, that's nice,I like her too.
He's like no, no, she likes you.
And I'm like, thanks, I likeher too.
So he grabbed me by theshoulders and he goes hey, she
likes you.
So automatically I'm thinkinglike oh my God, this guy thinks
(08:02):
I've been flirting with his wifeor something.
So I'm like dude, I've neverdone anything inappropriate,
I've never tried to.
He's like no, no, no, no, no,calm down, calm down, I'm okay
with it, I'm okay with it.
And then I'm like you're okaywith it.
He's like yeah, we're, we'regood with that.
And I'm like, hey, bro, I don't.
(08:31):
Well, what are you saying?
He's like listen, man, we're,we're, we're swingers, and you
know she likes you.
So, if you want.
And so my heart's pounding outof my chest because you know I'm
a, I'm a guy, and like it's notevery day that some, like a
fantasy, just walks up andliterally taps you on the
shoulder.
So I'm still like not sure ifit's real.
So I'm like, okay, all right,yeah, so we go, we go back.
We go back.
We wind up going to my placeCause they've got cats and I'm
allergic to cats.
So we go back to my place andI'm like afraid, I'm nervous in
(08:53):
my own place, and they're justlike she strips her clothes off
and he's like, and I'm like, inmy mind, I'm like what am I
supposed to do?
Like I'm freaking out inside,but I'm trying to stay nice and
calm and cool.
Like yeah, okay, okay, okay.
So, like he gets in the bed andhe starts, you know, playing
(09:13):
with her breasts and everything,and she's looking at me and
they're looking at me and she'snaked, and he's naked and I'm
like I've never been in thissituation before.
So I get in there and I'mhaving a like massive failure.
My brain wants in my dick's outto lunch.
So she's like like I don't know, because I'm still saying to
(09:35):
myself, okay, is this guy goingto try to fondle my balls, you
know?
Like is he going to get?
I don't know, I'm 23.
So she makes me comfortable,you know.
And then I realized, you know,we're both focused on the same
thing here.
And then everything starts towork, all systems are go, and
then we have a great time.
(09:56):
We have a great time and thenafter that, afterwards, I get
like a full explanation of thisis what this is and this is how
it works.
And I'm like full explanationof this is what this is and this
is how it works.
And I'm like how does a guysign up for this program?
And they took me to parties andintroduced me to people and
(10:19):
they told me how to act and hownot to act, and that was how I
started, that was how I got intoit.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Wow, that must've been pretty mind blowing.
I can totally understand yourreaction at first when you were
like, oh my God, oh my God,she's interested in me.
Like, oh shit, if I was in yourshoes I'd probably be pretty
terrified.
You don't know what somejealousy in some guys.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That can be scary person, I'm naturally very
flirty.
So, yeah, yeah, I I don't.
I didn't flirt as much withVenus because Venus is so, so
hot and she always has a crowdof admirers, men and women,
around her.
(10:57):
So, you know, I had to to toneit down, you know, with Venus.
But I'm going to keep trying toflirt with Venus one of these
days.
But, uh, yeah, so.
So my wife, you know, if youfast forward many years, when I
met her, by the time I met her,by the time I met her, I went
(11:18):
from being just like a.
I started off as like a, just asingle guy, learned the ropes,
played with hot wife couples,got introduced to cuckolding
without being told that that wasthe introduction.
So I just kind of got, you know, drop, kicked into that A guy I
(11:39):
did security for.
For a long time I did securityfor a guy, knew him, knew his
wife, and I mean I'd donesecurity for maybe like a year,
personal security for this guy.
I'd carry this guy into hishouse.
You know, literally I've drivenhim around His wife, would he?
He?
I always thought he justtreated his wife terrible, like
he talked to her just terribly.
(11:59):
Just he just talked to her likeshit.
He was so condescending andrude so I just kind of felt bad
for her because he was like asuper nice guy with everybody.
But his wife.
He comes to me one day and goeshey, listen, my wife, my wife
likes you, she thinks you're agood looking guy.
You know, and you know how youfeel.
(12:19):
How would you feel about comingto a hotel with me, her and
another girl and and doingsomething?
And I'm like I'm saying tomyself I wonder if she's aware
of this.
So I'm like is she cool withthat?
He's like, no, she's, she's,she's fine with it.
I'm like, cause I didn't wantto go into a situation where I
feel like like he's making herdo something like ah, it's not
my thing.
So we go back and forth.
(12:40):
He's like, dude, just if you'reuncomfortable, just leave.
And he's like you're security?
Like who's going to keep you inhere?
I'm like, oh, okay, so fastforward, go out, go to the room.
We actually start off.
We start off with me, his wifeand another girl and he's
watching me and his wife playwith another girl.
I don't play with his wife, Ionly play with the girl and the
girl plays with his wife.
(13:01):
So she leaves and I think I'mdone.
And he's like, hey, you know,you can go ahead.
And I'm like looking at her,because she's had a great time
with the girl, but she's supersubmissive, doesn't say anything
.
And then me and him are talkingand I'm like, yeah, but I'm not
sure she's going to becomfortable with me touching her
.
He's like no, no, no, go ahead.
(13:22):
And so we're like standing overand so finally I go back to the
bed and I'm like kind of, youknow, reluctantly, you know, are
you good with this?
And so she tells him go sitdown.
Here's the thing.
But at this point it hasn'tprocessed in my mind that this
is the first command I've everheard her give him, first one.
(13:43):
And she says just go sit down.
So he goes and sit in a chairin a corner and you know she's
kind of touching me and you knowI'm standing at the edge of the
bed and she's just liketouching my body.
This is back when I was youngwith muscles, so you know it was
all hard then.
So she's like touchingeverything and she's looking at
(14:07):
me but she like kind of looks athim and I'm looking at her and
she's kind of a little predatory, but it's still not clicking in
yet it still hasn't.
Because I'm really saying, man,I hope this lady's not doing
this against her, will?
I hope I'm not taking apart insome weird shit.
I'm still in my head I mean I'm, you know, I'm not even fully
hard because I'm kind of likeman, I hope she's good.
So she puts her mouth on it andI realized, oh, she's good, she
(14:28):
is comfortable, she is reallycomfortable, like oh yeah.
So I kind of forget it.
I mean now he's kind of gone andshe, you know she's working it.
So I get on the bed, get behindher and she says come here.
So I mean she was happy to talkabout how small he was.
(14:48):
I mean he was probably a goodthree inches, so she wasn't used
to taking any any real dick.
So I'm fucking her, but I'm notgoing wild because you know she
tells him to come here.
So she says come here.
Still hasn't clicked.
He, obeys, walks over, takeyour pants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
He obeys, walks over, take yourpants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
I'm fucking her.
He's standing in front of her,takes his pants down.
(15:09):
So he's got him down like tohis knees.
So she grabs his dick and itdoesn't even make it to her
mouth before he fucking comesall over the place.
Shit, she snaps.
This is why you have such amiserable.
Like she goes and I'm fuckingher and I'm like, oh my god,
he's gonna beat her up.
Like while I'm fucking her andhe starts oh honey, I'm so sorry
(15:32):
.
And he's going through thisapologizing.
I know I'm miserable.
No one has given me any clue atwhat kind of game we're playing
here.
I'm literally inside of thiswoman while she's saying this
and like I start going down,like I start dick start getting
a little soft.
I'm like what the fuck is goingon here?
I'm gonna have to protect thislady with my dick out.
(15:54):
This is about to get reallyweird.
So I like looking at him.
She's like go fucking sit down.
This is what a real.
So now she's saying this iswhat a real man is.
So now I'm catching on likeokay, we're clearly, we're good.
He's like doing the penguin walkback with his pants around his
ankles, you know over to thechair in the corner and talking
I know how miserable.
Talking about how miserable hiscock is, and then, remember I
(16:18):
have never even read aboutcuckolding at this point.
So the next thought that hitsmy mind is wait, I hope she
don't fucking think she's goingto talk to me like that.
And so I start punishing her,like I mean I am fucking her
into oblivion and like she'slike slapping the bed and she's
like like yelling at him.
This is how it's supposed to be, this is how man takes it, and
(16:42):
I'm like that was myintroduction into it.
So we we I mean it wound upbeing fucking amazing, like it
just wound up being crazy, andlike we did that.
And at the end of the night,you know, I get dressed, my head
is like fucked up, like he.
I didn't even get warmed up.
There was like no lube.
You didn't tell me that I maybe stepping into some super
(17:03):
weird shit.
So I get we, we walk out, hewalks me out and he was like hey
, just make sure you don't tellanybody about this.
I'm like dude, you don't haveto worry about me telling
anybody about this shit.
I don't even know how I feelabout this shit.
Like this whole time I've beenfeeling bad for this woman.
(17:24):
This whole time I've beenfeeling terrible for this sweet
little woman and like sheliterally stayed.
They stayed in scene until weleft, like she was.
And that's when I realized,behind closed doors they had
this weird thing.
And it was then, every time Isee them after that, like I
would get hard instantly and shewould be so submissive.
(17:45):
And and then like after that,like if I bring them home, you
know after night doing securityfor him, take them up, take them
and put them in a room and shelike like she's like, you know,
I want you to stay here, I wantyou to fuck me next to him, and
when he wakes up I want him toknow what you did to me.
And I'm like this is some wildshit.
(18:06):
And that was my introduction tocuckolding.
It made me do research.
Like it made me really doresearch, cause I'm like if
there are more people out herelike this half of me wants to
meet them all and the other halfof me wants to run away.
I didn't know how I felt aboutit.
But you know, after that, thenyou, then I started
understanding and identifyingand and realizing the difference
(18:29):
.
So I didn't even get like asoft introduction in the
cuckolding.
So after that I'm like let's go.
So that was those two aspects.
So once I finally met my wife,I had been in the lifestyle, and
for so long.
So I just had this mentality.
Like any woman who I meet, I'mgoing to tell her right away
(18:50):
this is my lifestyle.
So I didn't any any woman who Iwas with or playing with or
interacting with.
I let them know what mylifestyle was and if they
weren't okay with it, like wecan be friends, and I'd always
say I'm cool with being friends.
If you're not comfortable withthe way I am, but I can't be,
it's either I'm going to be thisway or be a cheater.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I don't want to be a cheater, so Mrs Mocha was
happy to be in the lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You're so lucky because a lot of guys just can't
find or it's very difficult tofind a woman who's going to sign
up for that kind of that kindof thing.
And amazing that and so, so, sogreat that you were able to say
, hey look, this is what I'minto and you know, I appreciate
if you're.
If you're not into it, that'scool, we can be friends.
(19:38):
But like there's so many guyswho just wouldn't have the guts,
I guess, to bring that up andsay that and and it's amazing
that this is such a big part, isbecome such a big part of who
you are, that you need thataspect in a relationship to be
able to feel fulfilled in yourlife.
Like that that's pretty cool.
(19:59):
And then your wife signed upfor it.
She was like yeah, fuck, yeah.
So how does she feel about that?
I know you can't speak for her,but like, how do you think she
feels?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, we've talked about it a thousand times, so I
was just very direct about it.
You know, I think most guys areafraid.
Most guys start off as liars.
Yeah, and that's where theproblem is.
Most guys think that they cancome into the relationship and
(20:27):
lie, lie, lie and theneventually say, oh, by the way,
I was in the lifestyle.
So you've already started offwith deception.
You know the fear of losingthat person.
I get that.
You like this person, you don'twant to lose that person.
But if most guys have thismentality that you know, some
I'll get with her and then I'llcheat, because you know, you
know, guy, code one on one isnot I don't cheat on you for me,
I cheat on you for you.
(20:47):
I cheat on you so that I don'thurt your feelings, because most
guys are fine with that.
I didn't feel that way.
It's like I don't want to havethe fucking lie.
And then, also, because I wasso promiscuous before my wife, I
didn't feel like we could be agood team if she didn't have
access to the amount of excessthat I had before her, because
(21:09):
then she couldn't understand me,we couldn't be compatible.
So I needed to open the doorfor her because you, you know,
you meet somebody and you cansee that animal back there and
you can see that they're holdingback and I just remove all of
that.
Okay, I don't want you to haveto hold back and, as a leader
and as a dominant male, Ibelieve that if you're gonna
(21:29):
bring a woman into this, youhave to lead from the front.
So let me find out what yourfantasies are.
Let me find out what you want.
I've done it all, so we'regonna start.
I'm gonna prove to you that Ican stomach you doing the things
that I want to do.
Okay, I want to do.
Ok, I want you to see that whenyou play with some guy, you're
going to get rewarded forenjoying yourself, because
(21:51):
society has told you that sex isbad.
So I mean, and then, of course,throughout the process, there
was a lot of you have toencourage, you have to make sure
she knows, reinforce a lot.
There was a lot of positivereinforcement, because it's not
just even if you're a guy who'scompletely comfortable with your
woman doing it, she's got thedemons within herself.
(22:13):
You know, she's got all ofthese years of the girls in
school and her parents andsociety saying that, oh, if you
fuck it, if you get tag team bythree guys, you have to explain
yourself.
There has to be some sort ofexplanation.
Oh, you have to be drunk.
No, you don't have to be drunk,and my wife knows.
All you have to do is say,daddy, this is what I want, and
(22:34):
you can fucking have it, doesshe?
call you Daddy Of course shecalls me, that Of course she
started calling me daddy.
I never said, I've never in mylife said call me daddy she
started calling me daddy, butyou know that's hot, um, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So.
And then you guys started likethrowing lifestyle parties and
stuff like that together.
Is that what you started to do?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
yes, so.
So we actually started off.
We started off hosting partiesfor SDC.
So we would go to parties andwe would just we're like it's
not.
As you know.
Well, let me start, Mrs Mocha isan animal.
Okay, she goes into a place andshe's not pretentious.
(23:25):
People see her being laughingand joking and getting naked and
stripping, and that's reallywho she is.
Like, that's her, there's nofake about it.
So we would go to parties andshe go in and she do this and
people like, oh my God, and shewas like what?
I thought we were swingers.
Are we not supposed to getnaked and do this?
I thought we were swingers.
Are we not supposed to getnaked and do this, you know?
And so, because of her energy,we found that if she wasn't, if
(23:49):
she, she always had to bring theenergy.
So we were like you know, hey,we might as well start doing
parties.
And someone recommended us toSDC.
They talked to us and westarted hosting parties.
And then, of course, mrs Mochaif she's the party hostess, you
know she's.
If it's a meet and greet,everybody's excited.
(24:12):
If it's a, if it's a meet andgreet where it's like only
swingers, oh my God, like I'dhave to tell her like hey, hey,
it's still a public venue, putyour titties away, okay.
And all of those other womenwho you've convinced somehow to
take their titties out, pleasego make them.
Put it Like.
So she's just that person.
And that just led us intohosting house parties.
And once we started houseparties, that was just you know,
(24:33):
and it was just her.
We started having a birthdayparty for every year and those
would be crazy.
The house would have 150 peoplein there at a time.
And finally she then, in a lotof the traditional lifestyle
parties, she just said you know,there's not enough people
having sex, like she just saidthere's not, there's not enough
people fucking.
She's like I want to be in theplace where people are having
(24:56):
sex and this is my wife, thisisn't me, my that's, she's the
sexual deviant, like deviant.
Like she is a bad influence onme.
So it's like I brought her inand she's like she's a savage,
you know.
And she's like okay, how do wefind people who want to come to
a party?
She's like I want women aroundme who are uninhibited.
(25:21):
I want women around me who willcome in and not be ashamed and
not not, you know, do the prettygirl blow job, you know, and
not do the oh, I'm not going toget naked.
And she started attracting that.
Or people would come and sayhow do you do this?
And she's like oh, come on,I'll show you.
Struck people naked.
And then we just started havingparties where you'd have all
these ladies in the party who itwent from.
Most lifestyle parties arealmost male dominated, and when
(25:44):
I say male dominated, the menare kind of controlling the flow
of it and you know it's a maledominated party when the party
can start at eight and go intofour in the morning.
If you put 10 horny women in aroom with a hundred guys and
those women are taking what theywant, the party can't last past
(26:06):
midnight because there's guysare like, oh, get it off me.
And when we learned that I amthe person who, I will organize
it.
But when party time comes, mrsMocha comes out, her girls come
out and they just take thefucking party over and it is,
(26:28):
it's magic.
It's magic when women arerunning the party.
It's crazy, I can't evenexplain it.
And we've had so many peoplecome to the parties and they're
like I don't understand thisparty.
It's like our house is empty by12, by midnight.
But that's, that's how you knowwomen are taking charge.
(26:48):
They're not feeling bad.
One of the funniest things islike there's a lady who came to
one of the first parties, one ofthe first parties and she said
she called my wife later.
She's like you know, I onlyplayed with four guys.
I didn't want to seem greedy,and my wife she's like I fuck 17
.
I didn't want to seem greedyand my wife she's like I fuck 17
.
So she's like you're good.
(27:09):
So the next time, next time,the next party, we had that lady
I shit, you, not Her and herhusband was posted up in the
room and it looked like a NASCARevent.
He was giving her water, comingout and bringing in hot towels,
wet wipes, and she was likerotating guys in and out.
And my wife was like afterwe're see, don't you feel better
(27:30):
?
And she's like yes, she came toevery party after that, you
know.
So, yeah, so we got.
We were wild for a little bitthere.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's, that's the power of women when we are
sexually empowered, and wesexually empower each other.
That's the vibe.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, I'm excited to meet her at Splash Mocha in
November.
How did you guys get involvedin Splash Mocha?
Because when I first met you, acouple what was it?
A couple years ago, two, threeyears ago yeah, at Splash Mocha,
like you were, I think, I don'twant to say part of the event,
but helping with the event.
So how did you guys getinvolved in that?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So in 2019, we went to Splash Mocha.
We went to Splash Mocha in 2019.
We were actually there as anSDC representative and you know
my wife being the constant justeverybody loves Mrs Mocha, okay,
everybody loves her.
You know, I'm just kind of likeher tag on she's Batman and I'm
Robin, you know.
(28:33):
So we just kind of we talked tothe, to the, the owners of the
event.
We talked to Dimitri and youknow we, because we'd done so
many parties in Atlanta andbefore Splash, we did a lot of
promoting for other hotel eventsthat came to Atlanta.
So we did a lot of promoting.
(28:53):
We did a lot of promoting forthe Trapeze Club when they
introduced the Diamond Club, sowe would do things back there
often.
So we were constantly doingthings in Atlanta.
So we talked to them and theyasked us hey, you know, would
you like to be a host couplewith us?
You know, help, you know, joinin, you know, be part of the
Splash Mocha family.
So we got into that and I meanwe have fun.
(29:16):
We, we went because so I'm notreally good at reading stuff.
Okay, the way my life works is,if there's a thing that needs
to be read, my wife reads it andtells me about it.
So she saw Slash Mocha and shewas like, daddy, this looks like
a great place where I can goand get a whole lot of chocolate
(29:37):
dick.
And so I was like, all right,let's do it.
So I just thought that I wasgoing to go there and just be
like, yeah, not really have agood time.
Turns out I could have a goodtime and she had a great time.
The first podcast after thefirst mocha, her statement was
(29:57):
it was like swimming in a sea ofdicks.
That was she was very happyabout that.
So, um, needless to say, thereis, you know, we will always be
a part of Splash Mocha, becausemy wife can swim through a sea.
It's like Willy Wonka and theChocolate Factory like that,
that chocolate pool.
That that's what she's, yeah.
(30:19):
So that's that's why we we staythere Stay there, that's heaven,
yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So for those of you listening who are not familiar
with Splash Mocha, how would youexplain to people who have no
idea what this is?
How would you explain whatSplash Mocha is, what is the
purpose and what does it looklike and feel like?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay.
So this is like an interracialplayground.
So if you are a hot wife couple, stag vixen couple, cuckold
couple and your wife isinterested in meeting black men,
this is a great place to go.
I think it's good for a fewdifferent reasons.
Number one the guys are vettedand the vetting process is more
(31:01):
of a.
You make sure that the guys,even if they're experienced, new
, whatever it is, theyunderstand proper etiquette,
because oftentimes perceiveddisrespect is just a lack of
experience.
So the vetting process makessure that they understand that
they have to be respectful Ifthey want to come to the event.
(31:22):
The vetting process helps themunderstand what type of couples
are going to be there, because Ican say this you know now that
I'm older and I've been in thelifestyle so long the bulls, the
males.
There's a journey we as men alsohave to take a journey from
what society says is the norm tothe experienced bull that
people are looking for for thosewho are looking for bulls.
(31:44):
So you have guys who are in thebeginning bull that people are
looking for for those who arelooking for bulls.
So you have guys who are in thebeginning of that journey, all
the way to guys who are seasonedveterans who know what they
want, know how to identify whatcouples want.
So that's where the vettingprocess comes in to make sure
that wherever the guy is in thisjourney, he's going to accept
(32:04):
those who come.
So if you are a cuckold coupleand the guy is in this journey,
he's going to accept those whocome, you know.
So if you are a cuckold coupleand the guy has no experience
with cuckold couples, he's goingto be vetted and he's going to
learn that.
Okay, if you see something thatyou're not accustomed to, don't
be weird.
If you see something you don'tunderstand, if someone requests
something of you that you don't,you're not interested in doing,
just tell them what yourboundaries are For a couple.
(32:28):
If you're a stag vixen couple,and okay, I get it.
Buddy, this is the first timeyou've been brave enough to come
in and let your wife play withall of these black guys.
It doesn't make you less of aperson.
It's just that oftentimesyou'll have a stag vixen couple
who comes into this environmentand where they live at they may
not have access to Black men.
(32:51):
So this is a great place for ahusband to come bring his wife
and be social.
There's not a competition.
You're not less of a man.
It's just that if I can eatstrawberry cupcakes all day and
then I go to a place with abunch of chocolate cupcakes,
it's not that I don't like thestrawberry cupcakes, I don't
(33:12):
have access to these.
So I'm going to enjoy these,because next week I'm going to
be back to the other cupcakes.
That's how the husband needs tosee it, because sometimes you
have a husband who will come inand he'll get halfway through
the event and he starts havingthis complex.
You know, no need for complex.
She still loves you, she stillloves your cock, but she's got a
few days to play with all ofthis.
(33:34):
So let her enjoy it, you know.
And then the guys who arecoming in with hot wife couples
the hot wives, that's.
That's a fun group.
But with those husbands, I tellthose husbands make sure you
explain to guys that what youare you can say I'm not a cuck.
If someone thinks you're a cuck,don't jump off.
I mean, don't go wild.
Calm down.
(33:54):
Okay, he didn't mean it.
He may not have known.
No-transcript, I'll be strokingit, but don't judge me.
(34:23):
You know but, and then I also,you know, play.
I do everything, you know, but,and then I also, you know, play
.
I do everything, you know so,with the guys.
If you bring your wife, makesure you're comfortable in your
own skin and understand that ifyou come to an event like this
where you're giving your wifethe opportunity to play with
black men, she's going to have agreat time because these guys
even though they every guy isnot going to be your cup of tea,
(34:44):
most guys are going to be veryrespectful.
You know so and don't justdon't confuse respectful for
being weird or you know, orbeing nervous.
You know the guy walked up andstuttered.
He's not being creepy, yourwife is beautiful and he doesn't
know what to say.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You know, get a poor guy a break, yeah so it's a
hotel takeover party with likefour, but it's not just for like
white couples that like blackbulls.
This is because I, when I wasthere, I saw some um other
interracial couples who werethere to partake in the fun too.
(35:21):
So but is it, is it mostlywhite couples that we're looking
, that are looking?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
for You're correct.
You're correct, it's not onlyfor white couples.
It's an interracial party, youknow, but that's probably the
larger percentage.
I mean any, all couples cancome.
I mean, there is no, everyoneis welcome.
Completely Oftentimes, likeinterracial couples have access
to different things, but I'vemet a lot of people who just
(35:49):
don't have access to certainthings in their area.
So oftentimes it seems like that.
That is the group.
And then, let's be honest, thisis still very taboo within
circles.
It's not taboo to us because weexperience it often, but it's
still taboo to a lot of people.
You know, we experienced itthis weekend talking to some new
(36:11):
friends that we met, where thelady said you know, hey, your
husband's a good looking guy,but my husband couldn't handle
him, me playing with him.
I will never, ever get offendedby that, ever, ever, ever.
But it's still taboo in someplaces.
So oftentimes, the people whoare coming.
It's more taboo for whitecouples, it's less taboo for
(36:35):
Hispanic couples, you know, lesstaboo for the couple.
So everyone is welcome by allmeans, but you will see, the
majority of the couples arewhite couples, all means, but,
you will see, the majority ofthe couples are white couples.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, the environment makes it so that people can
easily be approached.
It's not like normal life.
You walk into that hotel andyou're now in a place where it's
very simple to approachsomebody and talk about what are
you into, you know, and this isnot like normal life.
(37:08):
This is not like even going to,like a bar or a club at home
near your home.
You know, like this issomething so different where the
expectation is that you canjust approach random strangers,
even though you don't know thisperson.
It's safe to do so in thisenvironment and you can just,
you know, straight up say whatare you into?
Like are you having a good time?
Strangers, even though you don'tknow this person, it's safe to
do so in this environment andyou can just, you know, straight
up say what are you into?
(37:28):
Like, are you having a goodtime?
How are you feeling?
Like you know, and and the guyscan be direct too, which is
great like when I was walkingaround splash mocha guys like
coming up and like they werevery respectful but also playful
and fun about.
Like hey, like here's my,here's the key for my room.
Like um, bye, anytime damn it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Is that what I was supposed to do?
I don't know if I'd have knownthat was.
I did it wrong, damn it.
I did.
I knew.
I knew I'm gonna have an extrakey next time.
Okay, I'm just coming to justdrop the key in your purse why
even bother having keys for therooms at splash mocha?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
that's all I gotta say.
No, I'm kidding, um, but it'sjust like it's fun, like that's
a different kind of environment.
So I am I am definitely on theuh with the idea that this will
be like a good thing for for newcouples to go and at least try
it.
But don't go with anyexpectations.
I think that's when you weretalking about don't psych
(38:30):
yourself out Like this is, ifyou go with the expectation of
just you know what.
We're going to go check it out,see what it's like, maybe meet
some new people, meet somefriends.
Like no expectations, anythingbeyond that kind of thing, what
do?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
you think, explain that, explain.
So this I have to ask what doyou mean?
Like no expectations.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So for me it was always I'm not going to go and
fuck anybody Like I'm.
I'm not going to go with theexpectation that I'm going to
fuck anybody, because I'm I not.
And so I'm going to go and I'mgoing to meet lots of new people
and I'm just going to see howthe vibe is and have fun and go
with whatever happens.
(39:08):
Some other people are not likethat.
They're like scheduling intheir fuck appointments and I'm
like I could do that too, Iguess.
But if I was going to a newspace or a new venue, or even if
I'm not, then I enjoy goingwith.
Well, let's see what happens,kind of thing, and anything that
great that happens beyond justmeeting new people.
(39:30):
It feels like a bonus to me.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay.
So I'm a little different.
Okay, I feel like if I go to arestaurant, I'm going with the
expectation of eating.
Okay, now, I may not go withthe expectation of eating a
particular thing, but I amdefinitely going with the
expectation of eating.
And I usually tell people ifyou're going to this type of
(39:56):
environment, I think that youknow that you can have an
opportunity whenever you reallywant it.
But most people they're goingto go into it and possibly miss
an opportunity.
(40:16):
And you hear it all the time.
Man, I wish I would have donethis or that, I wish I would
have done this, because theyhaven't psyched themselves up,
they're going in and they hadthe opposite role.
I don't have to.
We.
I spoke to a couple there andhe's like oh well, you know
she's going to, she knows shewants this particular type of
guy and he has to talk to herfor this amount of time and he
(40:36):
has to.
I'm like dude, do you dounderstand?
And your wife is gorgeous, butyou do realize I am not going to
sit here for three hours forthe possibility of playing with
your wife If I say the wrongthing by mistake, like bro, like
I'm not courting her here.
You know, later on there's alot of people from Splash who we
(41:00):
we've become great friends but,like bro, like I'm not, and so
that's they come into it withthe expectation of we're not
playing unless this guy doesthat.
And by the end of the last dayI talked to them when they were
sitting there and you could tellshe was a little disappointed.
She was a little disappointedbecause she didn't play as much.
(41:20):
She felt like she could haveplayed and you know he's like
well, you know, maybe ourexpectations are a little off.
You think Really you want me topretend like I married her,
like no, I mean, I want to bepolite and I want to be kind.
So I'm always weird aboutexpectations.
For me it's I go in with theexpectation of playing.
(41:42):
I don't go with the expectationof I'm fucking everything.
I don't do that at all.
But I know that I want to play,I know that I want to
experience it.
I like to immerse myself intothe culture because to me it's
part of the culture.
Going there saying that Ilaughed, saying that I met new
people, saying that I playedwith amazing people, having
experiences that I can walk awaywith.
(42:04):
So yeah, for me, yes, I'mdefinitely, absolutely,
absolutely going in withexpectations, you know.
Now I mean I'm having extraroom keys for the next time I
see you.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's not an expectation.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I know it's not an expectation.
I'll be, hoping you know, justtelling my wife like, hey, you
can go and talk to Venus.
For me that's a good word maybetalk to venus.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
For me, really good word, maybe.
Yeah, oh my goodness.
Okay.
Well, splash market is going tobe a ton of fun, and that's
what I know.
Going into it like, I know, nomatter what, it's going to be a
ton of fun.
Um, yes, and I think it's greatthat we have these
opportunities to go to thesekinds of parties, but really,
there are just not very many ofthem.
I feel like the demand forinterracial parties is so huge
(42:54):
and yet there's so limitedoptions when it comes to them.
Would you agree?
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Do you feel like interracial?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
is getting more and more popular.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think it's getting more socially acceptable.
No-transcript.
(43:34):
By that, you know, that's likeme saying that, you know, I
don't, I'm not attracted to some, I cannot be attracted to
somebody, but you know, a lot ofpeople don't do it because they
know it's not sociallyacceptable.
I've been to parties where I'vehad I've talked to a couple,
I've talked to ladies she'sflirty, she's handsy, she's
touchy, but it's like, oh, wedon't play black guys.
(43:56):
So now I think it's more okayto, it's more socially
acceptable to do it, you know.
But then the challenge is, youknow, I constantly have a debate
about how you create goodspaces where you know you have
guys who are experienced enoughto provide the experience that
couples want and couples whounderstand that if you encounter
(44:21):
quality guys, you understandthat they are quality guys and
they're not a dime, a dozen.
Because I think oftentimesthat's where you start, where
it's difficult to find goodparties.
There's parties all over, butthere's some parties like I've
been invited to and I'm likelooking at the guest list and
like three of these dudes whoare going to that party, I would
invite them to my house if theywere bringing cash.
(44:42):
You know, or you know, so youknow, because they don't, they
don't offer that, or you know soyou know, because they don't,
they don't offer that what I,what I would call quality.
So I think the challenge with alot of getting good interracial
parties is being able to getguys, that guys get couples, vet
couples because I vet everycouple that comes to my party.
(45:05):
I tell them the same thing.
I tell guys I have expectationsfor them as far as behavior
respect.
If your husband gets sloppydrunk, if your wife gets sloppy
drunk, you both got to go.
So just there's the standards.
So I think that there are lotsof parties, but standards is an
issue, and a lot of thoseparties are parties that you
(45:26):
wouldn't even go to the outerring of the circle.
You know.
So you know, I know, for me Iwon't like me and my wife I'm
like, yeah, I'm not taking youthere, but it would be nice to
see more quality parties.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I agree.
If there were more optionsavailable, that would be amazing
.
I know there's fuck all in thecity in Canada that I live in
it's a fucking barren wastelandwhen it comes to that, but I
would travel to Seattle at least.
Anyway, we are out of time andI can't believe that because I
(46:00):
feel like I had so many morequestions.
Maybe you can come on the showagain for me, please sometime.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Whatever you want me, venus, whenever you want me, I
am here, or you can just come toAtlanta and just do a live
interview.
I think you'd enjoy that more.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh fuck, yes that would be amazing, oh my God.
Okay.
Well, I know I will see yousoon, in about a month in
Houston, awesome.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
So yes, I'll see you soon in about a month in Houston
.
Oh, awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
So, yes, I'll see you and I'll meet your beautiful
wife, and I can't wait.
That's going to be awesome.
Where can people learn moreabout you and your amazing
podcast and all of that?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
So our podcast is O-Faces.
O-f-a-c-e-z podcast is O faces,o F A, c, e, z.
And we learned the hard waythat there is a podcast that
spelled O faces, which we didn'tknow that, and I shit you not.
Someone said, oh yeah, you guyshave the.
You guys are the one not makingthis up with the midget, like
what?
Let me Google this.
(47:08):
So, yes, make sure you put a Zat the end of it.
Okay, I don't know what'shappening over there, but that's
not us, that is not us.
So, yeah, o-faces we have.
We just we just started back up.
We usually stop during thesummer, so we're just starting
(47:28):
our podcast back up.
As we continue, we'reintroducing a couple of
different segments.
You know, we had the DirtyGirls Corner, where it was just
Mrs Mocha and her ladies justunapologetically, filterlessly,
saying what they were thinking,which is amazing, filterlessly
(47:50):
saying what they were thinking,which is amazing.
It's so funny because she's aclown, but she's just real.
So we have the Dirty GirlsCorner, the Cutting Board me,
I'm always talking about thingsfrom the male's perspective.
As men, we have a hard timesharing our thoughts and our
feelings, the things that arereally rattling around inside
there.
So I'll let you have it all.
And then the O'Faces podcast isthe one with Ms Simoka and I,
(48:12):
and we're introducing a couplemore segments, so make sure you
check us out.
You can find us anywhere youget your podcast, whether it's
Spotify, apple, iheartradiowe're all over the place.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And I will include links to all of those in the
show notes for today so you canget the correct link just by
looking in the episodedescription for today's episode.
Mr Mocha, thank you so much forcoming on the show today.
It has been such a treat.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Thank you very much for inviting me, Venus.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
That's going to be it for today's episode.
Thank you so much for joiningme, venus.
That's going to be it fortoday's episode.
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(49:30):
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Bye.
Here's what's coming up on the show.
He obeys, walks over, take yourpants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
I'm fucking her.
He's standing in front of her,takes his pants down, so he's
got him down like to his knees.
So she grabs his dick and itdoesn't even make it to her
mouth before he fucking comesall over the place.
Shit, she snaps.
(00:39):
This is why you have such amiserable.
And I'm fucking her and I'mlike, oh my God, he's going to
beat her up Like while I'mfucking her, and he starts oh
honey, I'm so sorry.
And he's going through this.
I apologize and I know I'mmiserable.
No one has given me any clue atwhat kind of game we're playing
here.
I'm literally inside of thiswoman while she's saying this
(01:03):
and like I start going down,like I start dick start getting
a little soft.
I'm like what the fuck is goingon here?
I'm going to have to protectthis lady with my dick out.
This is about to get reallyweird.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This is the Venus Cuckoldris Podcast, a place to
learn all things cuckolding forthe curious, for the passionate
and for the sexually empoweredwoman who wants it all.
Let's go.
(01:43):
Welcome to the show.
I'm your host, venus.
Thanks for joining me today.
Let's go.
That's where I met him, and sohe's going to be talking about
(02:03):
how he's been a black bull inthe lifestyle for many years.
So he's got a lot ofinformation about what that's
been like.
But he's going to share hisstory about how he was kind of
like thrown into the cuckoldingthing.
Like the story is so crazy it'shilarious.
But also he's going to talkabout what his journey has been
like and his incredible marriageto the most incredible, amazing
(02:29):
wife, mrs Mocha.
So he's going to talk all aboutthat and we're going to be
talking about the hotel takeoverparties that are interracial.
That is a Splash Mocha event.
So we're going to talk aboutwhat that looks like, what that
feels like mocha event.
So we're going to talk aboutwhat that looks like, what that
feels like and some tips forcouples, for guys, and the ever
(02:51):
increasing popularity ofinterracial in the lifestyle.
So it's going to be an awesomeconversation.
But first I have a couple ofannouncements.
So the first one is I havejoined Blue Sky Social.
I'm going to eventually fadeout my Twitter because I fucking
hate Twitter X whatever youwant to call it, and Blue Sky
Social seems pretty fuckingawesome.
(03:12):
I've been on it now for like aweek and I like it.
I just like Twitter, minus allthe garbage and, yes, it does
allow porn.
So this is all very importantto you guys that are listening.
You're like, but Twitter'swhere the cuck porn is.
Yeah, fucking know about that.
Okay, I get it.
But now there's somewhere elsethat will keep you very happy, I
(03:36):
promise.
So my handle on there is atCuckoldressV same handle as
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If you follow me, I'll followyou back.
So that's at Kuckledris V andit's called Blue Sky Social.
It's free and just sign up,just like you did with Twitter,
and it's a lot of fun.
So I'll put the link in theshow notes for today so you can
(03:59):
find it there, all right.
Last but not least, I did abonus episode recently with the
amazing always wonderful, alwaysgreat to talk to Crystal Welch
and we tackled a listenerquestion which was all about
this guy who feels like he iswhat he calls addicted or hooked
(04:22):
on interracial porn and hereally, really wants his wife to
, you know, cuck him with blackguys, but like she is not into
black guys, she just won't do it.
And so he's really stuckbecause he feels, like he he
absolutely has to have that andin order to be happy and
fulfilled in his life, and andbut he's just he doesn't know
(04:45):
what to do.
So this is a question I getasked often, or I've heard of
often, where you kind of havethis incompatibility and what do
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So, crystal and I, we tackledthis question and our answers
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Okay, that's it forannouncements.
Now let's jump into today's showwith Mr Mocha.
(05:52):
Here we go, joining me on theshow.
I have a special guest, mrMocha.
I'm so excited to have you here.
Show I have a special guest, mrMocha, I'm so excited to have
you here.
He is the co-host, with hiswife, of the oh Faces podcast,
and him and his wife are a hostcouple for the Splash Mocha
(06:15):
events.
You may have heard me talkabout that on the show before,
so welcome Mr Mocha to the show.
Say hello to all the listeners.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hello everyone and Venus, thank you for having me
on.
I'm excited to be here.
Always, any excuse I have tosee your face, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, and so for all of you listening right now, you
need to be watching the video onYouTube, because this guy is
sexy as fuck.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You're making my cheeks turn red.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
He's so hot like damn .
I'm just like it's gonna bereally difficult to do this
interview.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm not gonna lie, because this is a mutual thing
like I'm just staring at, I'mjust looking at you, so I'm, I'm
good here.
Make sure you give me goodquestions or I'll be distracted
by you, venus I'm gonna my best,but I'm already flustered, so
let's just jump right in.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, lucky Mrs Mocha , you guys are married.
And how long have you been inthis lifestyle for?
How did it all start out foryou?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So I've been in the lifestyle since I was 23.
Been in the lifestyle since Iwas 23.
I was introduced to lifestylebefore Mrs Mocha and I got
together, so I was actuallyintroduced by a coworker and I
had no idea what it was.
I mean, I'd worked with him forquite a while and we were all
(07:39):
out having drinks after work andwe'd done this a million times.
And we're all drunk and hecomes up and tells me his wife
likes me.
And I'm like, oh, that's nice,I like her too.
He's like no, no, she likes you.
And I'm like, thanks, I likeher too.
So he grabbed me by theshoulders and he goes hey, she
likes you.
So automatically I'm thinkinglike oh my God, this guy thinks
(08:02):
I've been flirting with his wifeor something.
So I'm like dude, I've neverdone anything inappropriate,
I've never tried to.
He's like no, no, no, no, no,calm down, calm down, I'm okay
with it, I'm okay with it.
And then I'm like you're okaywith it.
He's like yeah, we're, we'regood with that.
And I'm like, hey, bro, I don't.
(08:31):
Well, what are you saying?
He's like listen, man, we're,we're, we're swingers, and you
know she likes you.
So, if you want.
And so my heart's pounding outof my chest because you know I'm
a, I'm a guy, and like it's notevery day that some, like a
fantasy, just walks up andliterally taps you on the
shoulder.
So I'm still like not sure ifit's real.
So I'm like, okay, all right,yeah, so we go, we go back.
We go back.
We wind up going to my placeCause they've got cats and I'm
allergic to cats.
So we go back to my place andI'm like afraid, I'm nervous in
(08:53):
my own place, and they're justlike she strips her clothes off
and he's like, and I'm like, inmy mind, I'm like what am I
supposed to do?
Like I'm freaking out inside,but I'm trying to stay nice and
calm and cool.
Like yeah, okay, okay, okay.
So, like he gets in the bed andhe starts, you know, playing
(09:13):
with her breasts and everything,and she's looking at me and
they're looking at me and she'snaked, and he's naked and I'm
like I've never been in thissituation before.
So I get in there and I'mhaving a like massive failure.
My brain wants in my dick's outto lunch.
So she's like like I don't know, because I'm still saying to
(09:35):
myself, okay, is this guy goingto try to fondle my balls, you
know?
Like is he going to get?
I don't know, I'm 23.
So she makes me comfortable,you know.
And then I realized, you know,we're both focused on the same
thing here.
And then everything starts towork, all systems are go, and
then we have a great time.
(09:56):
We have a great time and thenafter that, afterwards, I get
like a full explanation of thisis what this is and this is how
it works.
And I'm like full explanationof this is what this is and this
is how it works.
And I'm like how does a guysign up for this program?
And they took me to parties andintroduced me to people and
(10:19):
they told me how to act and hownot to act, and that was how I
started, that was how I got intoit.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Wow, that must've been pretty mind blowing.
I can totally understand yourreaction at first when you were
like, oh my God, oh my God,she's interested in me.
Like, oh shit, if I was in yourshoes I'd probably be pretty
terrified.
You don't know what somejealousy in some guys.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That can be scary person, I'm naturally very
flirty.
So, yeah, yeah, I I don't.
I didn't flirt as much withVenus because Venus is so, so
hot and she always has a crowdof admirers, men and women,
around her.
(10:57):
So, you know, I had to to toneit down, you know, with Venus.
But I'm going to keep trying toflirt with Venus one of these
days.
But, uh, yeah, so.
So my wife, you know, if youfast forward many years, when I
met her, by the time I met her,by the time I met her, I went
(11:18):
from being just like a.
I started off as like a, just asingle guy, learned the ropes,
played with hot wife couples,got introduced to cuckolding
without being told that that wasthe introduction.
So I just kind of got, you know, drop, kicked into that A guy I
(11:39):
did security for.
For a long time I did securityfor a guy, knew him, knew his
wife, and I mean I'd donesecurity for maybe like a year,
personal security for this guy.
I'd carry this guy into hishouse.
You know, literally I've drivenhim around His wife, would he?
He?
I always thought he justtreated his wife terrible, like
he talked to her just terribly.
(11:59):
Just he just talked to her likeshit.
He was so condescending andrude so I just kind of felt bad
for her because he was like asuper nice guy with everybody.
But his wife.
He comes to me one day and goeshey, listen, my wife, my wife
likes you, she thinks you're agood looking guy.
You know, and you know how youfeel.
(12:19):
How would you feel about comingto a hotel with me, her and
another girl and and doingsomething?
And I'm like I'm saying tomyself I wonder if she's aware
of this.
So I'm like is she cool withthat?
He's like, no, she's, she's,she's fine with it.
I'm like, cause I didn't wantto go into a situation where I
feel like like he's making herdo something like ah, it's not
my thing.
So we go back and forth.
(12:40):
He's like, dude, just if you'reuncomfortable, just leave.
And he's like you're security?
Like who's going to keep you inhere?
I'm like, oh, okay, so fastforward, go out, go to the room.
We actually start off.
We start off with me, his wifeand another girl and he's
watching me and his wife playwith another girl.
I don't play with his wife, Ionly play with the girl and the
girl plays with his wife.
(13:01):
So she leaves and I think I'mdone.
And he's like, hey, you know,you can go ahead.
And I'm like looking at her,because she's had a great time
with the girl, but she's supersubmissive, doesn't say anything
.
And then me and him are talkingand I'm like, yeah, but I'm not
sure she's going to becomfortable with me touching her
.
He's like no, no, no, go ahead.
(13:22):
And so we're like standing overand so finally I go back to the
bed and I'm like kind of, youknow, reluctantly, you know, are
you good with this?
And so she tells him go sitdown.
Here's the thing.
But at this point it hasn'tprocessed in my mind that this
is the first command I've everheard her give him, first one.
(13:43):
And she says just go sit down.
So he goes and sit in a chairin a corner and you know she's
kind of touching me and you knowI'm standing at the edge of the
bed and she's just liketouching my body.
This is back when I was youngwith muscles, so you know it was
all hard then.
So she's like touchingeverything and she's looking at
(14:07):
me but she like kind of looks athim and I'm looking at her and
she's kind of a little predatory, but it's still not clicking in
yet it still hasn't.
Because I'm really saying, man,I hope this lady's not doing
this against her, will?
I hope I'm not taking apart insome weird shit.
I'm still in my head I mean I'm, you know, I'm not even fully
hard because I'm kind of likeman, I hope she's good.
So she puts her mouth on it andI realized, oh, she's good, she
(14:28):
is comfortable, she is reallycomfortable, like oh yeah.
So I kind of forget it.
I mean now he's kind of gone andshe, you know she's working it.
So I get on the bed, get behindher and she says come here.
So I mean she was happy to talkabout how small he was.
(14:48):
I mean he was probably a goodthree inches, so she wasn't used
to taking any any real dick.
So I'm fucking her, but I'm notgoing wild because you know she
tells him to come here.
So she says come here.
Still hasn't clicked.
He, obeys, walks over, takeyour pants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
He obeys, walks over, take yourpants off.
Still hasn't clicked.
I'm fucking her.
He's standing in front of her,takes his pants down.
(15:09):
So he's got him down like tohis knees.
So she grabs his dick and itdoesn't even make it to her
mouth before he fucking comesall over the place.
Shit, she snaps.
This is why you have such amiserable.
Like she goes and I'm fuckingher and I'm like, oh my god,
he's gonna beat her up.
Like while I'm fucking her andhe starts oh honey, I'm so sorry
(15:32):
.
And he's going through thisapologizing.
I know I'm miserable.
No one has given me any clue atwhat kind of game we're playing
here.
I'm literally inside of thiswoman while she's saying this
and like I start going down,like I start dick start getting
a little soft.
I'm like what the fuck is goingon here?
I'm gonna have to protect thislady with my dick out.
(15:54):
This is about to get reallyweird.
So I like looking at him.
She's like go fucking sit down.
This is what a real.
So now she's saying this iswhat a real man is.
So now I'm catching on likeokay, we're clearly, we're good.
He's like doing the penguin walkback with his pants around his
ankles, you know over to thechair in the corner and talking
I know how miserable.
Talking about how miserable hiscock is, and then, remember I
(16:18):
have never even read aboutcuckolding at this point.
So the next thought that hitsmy mind is wait, I hope she
don't fucking think she's goingto talk to me like that.
And so I start punishing her,like I mean I am fucking her
into oblivion and like she'slike slapping the bed and she's
like like yelling at him.
This is how it's supposed to be, this is how man takes it, and
(16:42):
I'm like that was myintroduction into it.
So we we I mean it wound upbeing fucking amazing, like it
just wound up being crazy, andlike we did that.
And at the end of the night,you know, I get dressed, my head
is like fucked up, like he.
I didn't even get warmed up.
There was like no lube.
You didn't tell me that I maybe stepping into some super
(17:03):
weird shit.
So I get we, we walk out, hewalks me out and he was like hey
, just make sure you don't tellanybody about this.
I'm like dude, you don't haveto worry about me telling
anybody about this shit.
I don't even know how I feelabout this shit.
Like this whole time I've beenfeeling bad for this woman.
(17:24):
This whole time I've beenfeeling terrible for this sweet
little woman and like sheliterally stayed.
They stayed in scene until weleft, like she was.
And that's when I realized,behind closed doors they had
this weird thing.
And it was then, every time Isee them after that, like I
would get hard instantly and shewould be so submissive.
(17:45):
And and then like after that,like if I bring them home, you
know after night doing securityfor him, take them up, take them
and put them in a room and shelike like she's like, you know,
I want you to stay here, I wantyou to fuck me next to him, and
when he wakes up I want him toknow what you did to me.
And I'm like this is some wildshit.
(18:06):
And that was my introduction tocuckolding.
It made me do research.
Like it made me really doresearch, cause I'm like if
there are more people out herelike this half of me wants to
meet them all and the other halfof me wants to run away.
I didn't know how I felt aboutit.
But you know, after that, thenyou, then I started
understanding and identifyingand and realizing the difference
(18:29):
.
So I didn't even get like asoft introduction in the
cuckolding.
So after that I'm like let's go.
So that was those two aspects.
So once I finally met my wife,I had been in the lifestyle, and
for so long.
So I just had this mentality.
Like any woman who I meet, I'mgoing to tell her right away
(18:50):
this is my lifestyle.
So I didn't any any woman who Iwas with or playing with or
interacting with.
I let them know what mylifestyle was and if they
weren't okay with it, like wecan be friends, and I'd always
say I'm cool with being friends.
If you're not comfortable withthe way I am, but I can't be,
it's either I'm going to be thisway or be a cheater.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I don't want to be a cheater, so Mrs Mocha was
happy to be in the lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You're so lucky because a lot of guys just can't
find or it's very difficult tofind a woman who's going to sign
up for that kind of that kindof thing.
And amazing that and so, so, sogreat that you were able to say
, hey look, this is what I'minto and you know, I appreciate
if you're.
If you're not into it, that'scool, we can be friends.
(19:38):
But like there's so many guyswho just wouldn't have the guts,
I guess, to bring that up andsay that and and it's amazing
that this is such a big part, isbecome such a big part of who
you are, that you need thataspect in a relationship to be
able to feel fulfilled in yourlife.
Like that that's pretty cool.
(19:59):
And then your wife signed upfor it.
She was like yeah, fuck, yeah.
So how does she feel about that?
I know you can't speak for her,but like, how do you think she
feels?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, we've talked about it a thousand times, so I
was just very direct about it.
You know, I think most guys areafraid.
Most guys start off as liars.
Yeah, and that's where theproblem is.
Most guys think that they cancome into the relationship and
(20:27):
lie, lie, lie and theneventually say, oh, by the way,
I was in the lifestyle.
So you've already started offwith deception.
You know the fear of losingthat person.
I get that.
You like this person, you don'twant to lose that person.
But if most guys have thismentality that you know, some
I'll get with her and then I'llcheat, because you know, you
know, guy, code one on one isnot I don't cheat on you for me,
I cheat on you for you.
(20:47):
I cheat on you so that I don'thurt your feelings, because most
guys are fine with that.
I didn't feel that way.
It's like I don't want to havethe fucking lie.
And then, also, because I wasso promiscuous before my wife, I
didn't feel like we could be agood team if she didn't have
access to the amount of excessthat I had before her, because
(21:09):
then she couldn't understand me,we couldn't be compatible.
So I needed to open the doorfor her because you, you know,
you meet somebody and you cansee that animal back there and
you can see that they're holdingback and I just remove all of
that.
Okay, I don't want you to haveto hold back and, as a leader
and as a dominant male, Ibelieve that if you're gonna
(21:29):
bring a woman into this, youhave to lead from the front.
So let me find out what yourfantasies are.
Let me find out what you want.
I've done it all, so we'regonna start.
I'm gonna prove to you that Ican stomach you doing the things
that I want to do.
Okay, I want to do.
Ok, I want you to see that whenyou play with some guy, you're
going to get rewarded forenjoying yourself, because
(21:51):
society has told you that sex isbad.
So I mean, and then, of course,throughout the process, there
was a lot of you have toencourage, you have to make sure
she knows, reinforce a lot.
There was a lot of positivereinforcement, because it's not
just even if you're a guy who'scompletely comfortable with your
woman doing it, she's got thedemons within herself.
(22:13):
You know, she's got all ofthese years of the girls in
school and her parents andsociety saying that, oh, if you
fuck it, if you get tag team bythree guys, you have to explain
yourself.
There has to be some sort ofexplanation.
Oh, you have to be drunk.
No, you don't have to be drunk,and my wife knows.
All you have to do is say,daddy, this is what I want, and
(22:34):
you can fucking have it, doesshe?
call you Daddy Of course shecalls me, that Of course she
started calling me daddy.
I never said, I've never in mylife said call me daddy she
started calling me daddy, butyou know that's hot, um, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So.
And then you guys started likethrowing lifestyle parties and
stuff like that together.
Is that what you started to do?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
yes, so.
So we actually started off.
We started off hosting partiesfor SDC.
So we would go to parties andwe would just we're like it's
not.
As you know.
Well, let me start, Mrs Mocha isan animal.
Okay, she goes into a place andshe's not pretentious.
(23:25):
People see her being laughingand joking and getting naked and
stripping, and that's reallywho she is.
Like, that's her, there's nofake about it.
So we would go to parties andshe go in and she do this and
people like, oh my God, and shewas like what?
I thought we were swingers.
Are we not supposed to getnaked and do this?
I thought we were swingers.
Are we not supposed to getnaked and do this, you know?
And so, because of her energy,we found that if she wasn't, if
(23:49):
she, she always had to bring theenergy.
So we were like you know, hey,we might as well start doing
parties.
And someone recommended us toSDC.
They talked to us and westarted hosting parties.
And then, of course, mrs Mochaif she's the party hostess, you
know she's.
If it's a meet and greet,everybody's excited.
(24:12):
If it's a, if it's a meet andgreet where it's like only
swingers, oh my God, like I'dhave to tell her like hey, hey,
it's still a public venue, putyour titties away, okay.
And all of those other womenwho you've convinced somehow to
take their titties out, pleasego make them.
Put it Like.
So she's just that person.
And that just led us intohosting house parties.
And once we started houseparties, that was just you know,
(24:33):
and it was just her.
We started having a birthdayparty for every year and those
would be crazy.
The house would have 150 peoplein there at a time.
And finally she then, in a lotof the traditional lifestyle
parties, she just said you know,there's not enough people
having sex, like she just saidthere's not, there's not enough
people fucking.
She's like I want to be in theplace where people are having
(24:56):
sex and this is my wife, thisisn't me, my that's, she's the
sexual deviant, like deviant.
Like she is a bad influence onme.
So it's like I brought her inand she's like she's a savage,
you know.
And she's like okay, how do wefind people who want to come to
a party?
She's like I want women aroundme who are uninhibited.
(25:21):
I want women around me who willcome in and not be ashamed and
not not, you know, do the prettygirl blow job, you know, and
not do the oh, I'm not going toget naked.
And she started attracting that.
Or people would come and sayhow do you do this?
And she's like oh, come on,I'll show you.
Struck people naked.
And then we just started havingparties where you'd have all
these ladies in the party who itwent from.
Most lifestyle parties arealmost male dominated, and when
(25:44):
I say male dominated, the menare kind of controlling the flow
of it and you know it's a maledominated party when the party
can start at eight and go intofour in the morning.
If you put 10 horny women in aroom with a hundred guys and
those women are taking what theywant, the party can't last past
(26:06):
midnight because there's guysare like, oh, get it off me.
And when we learned that I amthe person who, I will organize
it.
But when party time comes, mrsMocha comes out, her girls come
out and they just take thefucking party over and it is,
(26:28):
it's magic.
It's magic when women arerunning the party.
It's crazy, I can't evenexplain it.
And we've had so many peoplecome to the parties and they're
like I don't understand thisparty.
It's like our house is empty by12, by midnight.
But that's, that's how you knowwomen are taking charge.
(26:48):
They're not feeling bad.
One of the funniest things islike there's a lady who came to
one of the first parties, one ofthe first parties and she said
she called my wife later.
She's like you know, I onlyplayed with four guys.
I didn't want to seem greedy,and my wife she's like I fuck 17
.
I didn't want to seem greedyand my wife she's like I fuck 17
.
So she's like you're good.
(27:09):
So the next time, next time,the next party, we had that lady
I shit, you, not Her and herhusband was posted up in the
room and it looked like a NASCARevent.
He was giving her water, comingout and bringing in hot towels,
wet wipes, and she was likerotating guys in and out.
And my wife was like afterwe're see, don't you feel better
(27:30):
?
And she's like yes, she came toevery party after that, you
know.
So, yeah, so we got.
We were wild for a little bitthere.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's, that's the power of women when we are
sexually empowered, and wesexually empower each other.
That's the vibe.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, I'm excited to meet her at Splash Mocha in
November.
How did you guys get involvedin Splash Mocha?
Because when I first met you, acouple what was it?
A couple years ago, two, threeyears ago yeah, at Splash Mocha,
like you were, I think, I don'twant to say part of the event,
but helping with the event.
So how did you guys getinvolved in that?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So in 2019, we went to Splash Mocha.
We went to Splash Mocha in 2019.
We were actually there as anSDC representative and you know
my wife being the constant justeverybody loves Mrs Mocha, okay,
everybody loves her.
You know, I'm just kind of likeher tag on she's Batman and I'm
Robin, you know.
(28:33):
So we just kind of we talked tothe, to the, the owners of the
event.
We talked to Dimitri and youknow we, because we'd done so
many parties in Atlanta andbefore Splash, we did a lot of
promoting for other hotel eventsthat came to Atlanta.
So we did a lot of promoting.
(28:53):
We did a lot of promoting forthe Trapeze Club when they
introduced the Diamond Club, sowe would do things back there
often.
So we were constantly doingthings in Atlanta.
So we talked to them and theyasked us hey, you know, would
you like to be a host couplewith us?
You know, help, you know, joinin, you know, be part of the
Splash Mocha family.
So we got into that and I meanwe have fun.
(29:16):
We, we went because so I'm notreally good at reading stuff.
Okay, the way my life works is,if there's a thing that needs
to be read, my wife reads it andtells me about it.
So she saw Slash Mocha and shewas like, daddy, this looks like
a great place where I can goand get a whole lot of chocolate
(29:37):
dick.
And so I was like, all right,let's do it.
So I just thought that I wasgoing to go there and just be
like, yeah, not really have agood time.
Turns out I could have a goodtime and she had a great time.
The first podcast after thefirst mocha, her statement was
(29:57):
it was like swimming in a sea ofdicks.
That was she was very happyabout that.
So, um, needless to say, thereis, you know, we will always be
a part of Splash Mocha, becausemy wife can swim through a sea.
It's like Willy Wonka and theChocolate Factory like that,
that chocolate pool.
That that's what she's, yeah.
(30:19):
So that's that's why we we staythere Stay there, that's heaven,
yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So for those of you listening who are not familiar
with Splash Mocha, how would youexplain to people who have no
idea what this is?
How would you explain whatSplash Mocha is, what is the
purpose and what does it looklike and feel like?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay.
So this is like an interracialplayground.
So if you are a hot wife couple, stag vixen couple, cuckold
couple and your wife isinterested in meeting black men,
this is a great place to go.
I think it's good for a fewdifferent reasons.
Number one the guys are vettedand the vetting process is more
(31:01):
of a.
You make sure that the guys,even if they're experienced, new
, whatever it is, theyunderstand proper etiquette,
because oftentimes perceiveddisrespect is just a lack of
experience.
So the vetting process makessure that they understand that
they have to be respectful Ifthey want to come to the event.
(31:22):
The vetting process helps themunderstand what type of couples
are going to be there, because Ican say this you know now that
I'm older and I've been in thelifestyle so long the bulls, the
males.
There's a journey we as men alsohave to take a journey from
what society says is the norm tothe experienced bull that
people are looking for for thosewho are looking for bulls.
(31:44):
So you have guys who are in thebeginning bull that people are
looking for for those who arelooking for bulls.
So you have guys who are in thebeginning of that journey, all
the way to guys who are seasonedveterans who know what they
want, know how to identify whatcouples want.
So that's where the vettingprocess comes in to make sure
that wherever the guy is in thisjourney, he's going to accept
(32:04):
those who come.
So if you are a cuckold coupleand the guy is in this journey,
he's going to accept those whocome, you know.
So if you are a cuckold coupleand the guy has no experience
with cuckold couples, he's goingto be vetted and he's going to
learn that.
Okay, if you see something thatyou're not accustomed to, don't
be weird.
If you see something you don'tunderstand, if someone requests
something of you that you don't,you're not interested in doing,
just tell them what yourboundaries are For a couple.
(32:28):
If you're a stag vixen couple,and okay, I get it.
Buddy, this is the first timeyou've been brave enough to come
in and let your wife play withall of these black guys.
It doesn't make you less of aperson.
It's just that oftentimesyou'll have a stag vixen couple
who comes into this environmentand where they live at they may
not have access to Black men.
(32:51):
So this is a great place for ahusband to come bring his wife
and be social.
There's not a competition.
You're not less of a man.
It's just that if I can eatstrawberry cupcakes all day and
then I go to a place with abunch of chocolate cupcakes,
it's not that I don't like thestrawberry cupcakes, I don't
(33:12):
have access to these.
So I'm going to enjoy these,because next week I'm going to
be back to the other cupcakes.
That's how the husband needs tosee it, because sometimes you
have a husband who will come inand he'll get halfway through
the event and he starts havingthis complex.
You know, no need for complex.
She still loves you, she stillloves your cock, but she's got a
few days to play with all ofthis.
(33:34):
So let her enjoy it, you know.
And then the guys who arecoming in with hot wife couples
the hot wives, that's.
That's a fun group.
But with those husbands, I tellthose husbands make sure you
explain to guys that what youare you can say I'm not a cuck.
If someone thinks you're a cuck,don't jump off.
I mean, don't go wild.
Calm down.
(33:54):
Okay, he didn't mean it.
He may not have known.
No-transcript, I'll be strokingit, but don't judge me.
(34:23):
You know but, and then I also,you know, play.
I do everything, you know, but,and then I also, you know, play
.
I do everything, you know so,with the guys.
If you bring your wife, makesure you're comfortable in your
own skin and understand that ifyou come to an event like this
where you're giving your wifethe opportunity to play with
black men, she's going to have agreat time because these guys
even though they every guy isnot going to be your cup of tea,
(34:44):
most guys are going to be veryrespectful.
You know so and don't justdon't confuse respectful for
being weird or you know, orbeing nervous.
You know the guy walked up andstuttered.
He's not being creepy, yourwife is beautiful and he doesn't
know what to say.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You know, get a poor guy a break, yeah so it's a
hotel takeover party with likefour, but it's not just for like
white couples that like blackbulls.
This is because I, when I wasthere, I saw some um other
interracial couples who werethere to partake in the fun too.
(35:21):
So but is it, is it mostlywhite couples that we're looking
, that are looking?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
for You're correct.
You're correct, it's not onlyfor white couples.
It's an interracial party, youknow, but that's probably the
larger percentage.
I mean any, all couples cancome.
I mean, there is no, everyoneis welcome.
Completely Oftentimes, likeinterracial couples have access
to different things, but I'vemet a lot of people who just
(35:49):
don't have access to certainthings in their area.
So oftentimes it seems like that.
That is the group.
And then, let's be honest, thisis still very taboo within
circles.
It's not taboo to us because weexperience it often, but it's
still taboo to a lot of people.
You know, we experienced itthis weekend talking to some new
(36:11):
friends that we met, where thelady said you know, hey, your
husband's a good looking guy,but my husband couldn't handle
him, me playing with him.
I will never, ever get offendedby that, ever, ever, ever.
But it's still taboo in someplaces.
So oftentimes, the people whoare coming.
It's more taboo for whitecouples, it's less taboo for
(36:35):
Hispanic couples, you know, lesstaboo for the couple.
So everyone is welcome by allmeans, but you will see, the
majority of the couples arewhite couples, all means, but,
you will see, the majority ofthe couples are white couples.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, the environment makes it so that people can
easily be approached.
It's not like normal life.
You walk into that hotel andyou're now in a place where it's
very simple to approachsomebody and talk about what are
you into, you know, and this isnot like normal life.
(37:08):
This is not like even going to,like a bar or a club at home
near your home.
You know, like this issomething so different where the
expectation is that you canjust approach random strangers,
even though you don't know thisperson.
It's safe to do so in thisenvironment and you can just,
you know, straight up say whatare you into?
Like are you having a good time?
Strangers, even though you don'tknow this person, it's safe to
do so in this environment andyou can just, you know, straight
up say what are you into?
(37:28):
Like, are you having a goodtime?
How are you feeling?
Like you know, and and the guyscan be direct too, which is
great like when I was walkingaround splash mocha guys like
coming up and like they werevery respectful but also playful
and fun about.
Like hey, like here's my,here's the key for my room.
Like um, bye, anytime damn it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Is that what I was supposed to do?
I don't know if I'd have knownthat was.
I did it wrong, damn it.
I did.
I knew.
I knew I'm gonna have an extrakey next time.
Okay, I'm just coming to justdrop the key in your purse why
even bother having keys for therooms at splash mocha?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
that's all I gotta say.
No, I'm kidding, um, but it'sjust like it's fun, like that's
a different kind of environment.
So I am I am definitely on theuh with the idea that this will
be like a good thing for for newcouples to go and at least try
it.
But don't go with anyexpectations.
I think that's when you weretalking about don't psych
(38:30):
yourself out Like this is, ifyou go with the expectation of
just you know what.
We're going to go check it out,see what it's like, maybe meet
some new people, meet somefriends.
Like no expectations, anythingbeyond that kind of thing, what
do?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
you think, explain that, explain.
So this I have to ask what doyou mean?
Like no expectations.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So for me it was always I'm not going to go and
fuck anybody Like I'm.
I'm not going to go with theexpectation that I'm going to
fuck anybody, because I'm I not.
And so I'm going to go and I'mgoing to meet lots of new people
and I'm just going to see howthe vibe is and have fun and go
with whatever happens.
(39:08):
Some other people are not likethat.
They're like scheduling intheir fuck appointments and I'm
like I could do that too, Iguess.
But if I was going to a newspace or a new venue, or even if
I'm not, then I enjoy goingwith.
Well, let's see what happens,kind of thing, and anything that
great that happens beyond justmeeting new people.
(39:30):
It feels like a bonus to me.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay.
So I'm a little different.
Okay, I feel like if I go to arestaurant, I'm going with the
expectation of eating.
Okay, now, I may not go withthe expectation of eating a
particular thing, but I amdefinitely going with the
expectation of eating.
And I usually tell people ifyou're going to this type of
(39:56):
environment, I think that youknow that you can have an
opportunity whenever you reallywant it.
But most people they're goingto go into it and possibly miss
an opportunity.
(40:16):
And you hear it all the time.
Man, I wish I would have donethis or that, I wish I would
have done this, because theyhaven't psyched themselves up,
they're going in and they hadthe opposite role.
I don't have to.
We.
I spoke to a couple there andhe's like oh well, you know
she's going to, she knows shewants this particular type of
guy and he has to talk to herfor this amount of time and he
(40:36):
has to.
I'm like dude, do you dounderstand?
And your wife is gorgeous, butyou do realize I am not going to
sit here for three hours forthe possibility of playing with
your wife If I say the wrongthing by mistake, like bro, like
I'm not courting her here.
You know, later on there's alot of people from Splash who we
(41:00):
we've become great friends but,like bro, like I'm not, and so
that's they come into it withthe expectation of we're not
playing unless this guy doesthat.
And by the end of the last dayI talked to them when they were
sitting there and you could tellshe was a little disappointed.
She was a little disappointedbecause she didn't play as much.
(41:20):
She felt like she could haveplayed and you know he's like
well, you know, maybe ourexpectations are a little off.
You think Really you want me topretend like I married her,
like no, I mean, I want to bepolite and I want to be kind.
So I'm always weird aboutexpectations.
For me it's I go in with theexpectation of playing.
(41:42):
I don't go with the expectationof I'm fucking everything.
I don't do that at all.
But I know that I want to play,I know that I want to
experience it.
I like to immerse myself intothe culture because to me it's
part of the culture.
Going there saying that Ilaughed, saying that I met new
people, saying that I playedwith amazing people, having
experiences that I can walk awaywith.
(42:04):
So yeah, for me, yes, I'mdefinitely, absolutely,
absolutely going in withexpectations, you know.
Now I mean I'm having extraroom keys for the next time I
see you.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's not an expectation.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I know it's not an expectation.
I'll be, hoping you know, justtelling my wife like, hey, you
can go and talk to Venus.
For me that's a good word maybetalk to venus.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
For me, really good word, maybe.
Yeah, oh my goodness.
Okay.
Well, splash market is going tobe a ton of fun, and that's
what I know.
Going into it like, I know, nomatter what, it's going to be a
ton of fun.
Um, yes, and I think it's greatthat we have these
opportunities to go to thesekinds of parties, but really,
there are just not very many ofthem.
I feel like the demand forinterracial parties is so huge
(42:54):
and yet there's so limitedoptions when it comes to them.
Would you agree?
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Do you feel like interracial?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
is getting more and more popular.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think it's getting more socially acceptable.
No-transcript.
(43:34):
By that, you know, that's likeme saying that, you know, I
don't, I'm not attracted to some, I cannot be attracted to
somebody, but you know, a lot ofpeople don't do it because they
know it's not sociallyacceptable.
I've been to parties where I'vehad I've talked to a couple,
I've talked to ladies she'sflirty, she's handsy, she's
touchy, but it's like, oh, wedon't play black guys.
(43:56):
So now I think it's more okayto, it's more socially
acceptable to do it, you know.
But then the challenge is, youknow, I constantly have a debate
about how you create goodspaces where you know you have
guys who are experienced enoughto provide the experience that
couples want and couples whounderstand that if you encounter
(44:21):
quality guys, you understandthat they are quality guys and
they're not a dime, a dozen.
Because I think oftentimesthat's where you start, where
it's difficult to find goodparties.
There's parties all over, butthere's some parties like I've
been invited to and I'm likelooking at the guest list and
like three of these dudes whoare going to that party, I would
invite them to my house if theywere bringing cash.
(44:42):
You know, or you know, so youknow, because they don't, they
don't offer that, or you know soyou know, because they don't,
they don't offer that what I,what I would call quality.
So I think the challenge with alot of getting good interracial
parties is being able to getguys, that guys get couples, vet
couples because I vet everycouple that comes to my party.
(45:05):
I tell them the same thing.
I tell guys I have expectationsfor them as far as behavior
respect.
If your husband gets sloppydrunk, if your wife gets sloppy
drunk, you both got to go.
So just there's the standards.
So I think that there are lotsof parties, but standards is an
issue, and a lot of thoseparties are parties that you
(45:26):
wouldn't even go to the outerring of the circle.
You know.
So you know, I know, for me Iwon't like me and my wife I'm
like, yeah, I'm not taking youthere, but it would be nice to
see more quality parties.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I agree.
If there were more optionsavailable, that would be amazing
.
I know there's fuck all in thecity in Canada that I live in
it's a fucking barren wastelandwhen it comes to that, but I
would travel to Seattle at least.
Anyway, we are out of time andI can't believe that because I
(46:00):
feel like I had so many morequestions.
Maybe you can come on the showagain for me, please sometime.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Whatever you want me, venus, whenever you want me, I
am here, or you can just come toAtlanta and just do a live
interview.
I think you'd enjoy that more.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh fuck, yes that would be amazing, oh my God.
Okay.
Well, I know I will see yousoon, in about a month in
Houston, awesome.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
So yes, I'll see you soon in about a month in Houston
.
Oh, awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
So, yes, I'll see you and I'll meet your beautiful
wife, and I can't wait.
That's going to be awesome.
Where can people learn moreabout you and your amazing
podcast and all of that?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
So our podcast is O-Faces.
O-f-a-c-e-z podcast is O faces,o F A, c, e, z.
And we learned the hard waythat there is a podcast that
spelled O faces, which we didn'tknow that, and I shit you not.
Someone said, oh yeah, you guyshave the.
You guys are the one not makingthis up with the midget, like
what?
Let me Google this.
(47:08):
So, yes, make sure you put a Zat the end of it.
Okay, I don't know what'shappening over there, but that's
not us, that is not us.
So, yeah, o-faces we have.
We just we just started back up.
We usually stop during thesummer, so we're just starting
(47:28):
our podcast back up.
As we continue, we'reintroducing a couple of
different segments.
You know, we had the DirtyGirls Corner, where it was just
Mrs Mocha and her ladies justunapologetically, filterlessly,
saying what they were thinking,which is amazing, filterlessly
(47:50):
saying what they were thinking,which is amazing.
It's so funny because she's aclown, but she's just real.
So we have the Dirty GirlsCorner, the Cutting Board me,
I'm always talking about thingsfrom the male's perspective.
As men, we have a hard timesharing our thoughts and our
feelings, the things that arereally rattling around inside
there.
So I'll let you have it all.
And then the O'Faces podcast isthe one with Ms Simoka and I,
(48:12):
and we're introducing a couplemore segments, so make sure you
check us out.
You can find us anywhere youget your podcast, whether it's
Spotify, apple, iheartradiowe're all over the place.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And I will include links to all of those in the
show notes for today so you canget the correct link just by
looking in the episodedescription for today's episode.
Mr Mocha, thank you so much forcoming on the show today.
It has been such a treat.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Thank you very much for inviting me, Venus.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
That's going to be it for today's episode.
Thank you so much for joiningme, venus.
That's going to be it fortoday's episode.
Thank you so much for joiningme.
Make sure you go toVenusCuckoldresscom.
That's where you can book aprivate chat with me and you can
also join the Queens Quarterscommunity and get all the
amazing benefits, like theprivate podcast and the helpful
cuck tier where you can get keyholding with the private
(49:09):
Snapchat group, monthly privatechats with me and weekly live
hangouts and invites to speciallive events.
Oh, and you can also submit aquestion or confession for the
show.
Just go to venuscuckledresscomand click on the link that says
the podcast.
Make sure you follow me on bluesky social.
(49:30):
Yes, I said blue sky social,fuck Twitter.
My handle there is atcuckoldress V.
All right, that's it fortoday's show.
You guys will see you next time.
Bye.
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