October 4, 2024 • 33 mins
In the second part of Ame's story we will go over the arrest of the 6 people who tortured and eventually killed Ame, the years of abuse she suffered at the hands of these people, and what happened when these scumbags finally went before the court........
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Hello everyone, welcome back to The Victim's Voice.
I am your host, Laura B, and this week we are finishing up
the story of Amy Deal. I'm so sorry about having to
take a week off in between theseepisodes, but I have been sick
for the last month. I can't remember ever being the
sick of my life but I think I'm finally over the worst of it.
I'm not 100% yet so I'm sorry ifI sound horrible but I didn't
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want to put this off for anotherweek so I'm going to push
through. Two weeks ago, in the first
episode on Amy Deal, we discussed the abuse that Amy had
gone through in her mere 10 years of life.
The fact that she was abandoned by her mother to a family that
didn't want her because she wasn't quote UN quote one of
them. And the horrific death that she
suffered due to what her family said was a game of hide and seek
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gone wrong. And how the police knew that
there was something nefarious about Amy's death, but they just
couldn't prove it, at least not yet.
These police officers weren't giving up, though, and they
weren't done with this family. They were going to get to the
bottom of whatever happened to little Amy, and they were going
to do whatever it took to get the answers they needed to get
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her the justice that she deserved.
And they finally did. After extensive interviews and
interrogations, Samantha and John admitted that Amy being
locked in the box was not due toa botched game of hide and seek
at all, but a punishment handed down to her by John and Samantha
themselves. Which is no surprise since this
was one of many ridiculous punishments that we know they
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had used on Amy before. This led to Samantha and John
being arrested on the suspicion of first degree murder of Amy
Deal on July 27th, 2011 and these two losers were both held
on $1 million bonds each. So what was the horrible crime
that Amy committed that was so bad that she was locked in this
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box to suffocate overnight for over 7 hours as everyone else
slept? On July 11th, 2011, the final
night of her life, Amy was punished for hours for the
terrible, terrible crime of eating a popsicle.
Yes, you heard me right, the little girl was tortured and
killed because she ate a popsicle.
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Of course the pieces of shit whodid this to her said she stole
the popsicle, but she got it from her house out of her own
freezer. So how is that stealing?
The little girl was constantly hungry as it is, even though by
looking at the pictures you can tell not one of these assholes
ever missed a meal. Amy didn't ask for much, she
knew better. All she wanted was a damn
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popsicle. It was the middle of July in
Arizona and it was ungodly hot, 102° with a low of 85 that day
and all the other kids were eating a popsicle, so why
couldn't Amy? Apparently she was supposed to
just sit and watch the other kids enjoy the refreshing treat
as she sat sweating with no way to cool off and a house with no
air conditioning in the middle of the hot Arizona summer.
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When these subhuman demonic entities found out that Amy had
stolen a popsicle out of their freezer, they were pissed and
started yelling and screaming ather.
I mean, how dare this little girl steal a popsicle?
She should have been perfectly happy watching everyone else
enjoy theirs. So naturally, they tortured Amy,
because torturing a 10 year old little girl gave them some sort
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of sick pleasure. They forced her to stand in a
backbend position for three hours, pulling Amy back into the
position with her back arched, palms and feet on the floor.
She fell every time as she criedin pain.
Then came the jumping jacks and running in circles for hours
while these grown ass adults satand watched, getting enjoyment
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from Amy's misery. But those were just the
beginning of Amy's punishments. The worst was yet to come.
And it did come at around 1:00 AM when, according to court
testimony, John Samantha's husband ordered Amy into the
black box. Other times Amy had been put
into the box, she had been knownto push on the lid with her feet
to get air. Samantha made sure to remind
John of this, and she also reminded him that Amy had
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escaped from the box before. So this time John grabbed a
padlock to put through the holeson the box to make sure that it
was extra secure and that Amy could not escape.
The only places for air to get into the box were some small
holes under the handles. That was it.
Other than that, it was airtight.
John and Samantha then put the box in the garage where it was
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even more sweltering, and they went to bed and slept like
babies without a second thought of the little girl they had just
locked into a box and put into the hot garage.
These people had no conscience at all.
They later told investigators that they planned on checking on
Amy after an hour, but they never did.
When asked why he didn't, John told the interrogators that he
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just didn't get up. He was all snug in bed.
Why would he go check on Amy? John and Samantha fell asleep
knowing that Amy was locked in that box and it didn't bother
them at all. Try to put yourself into Amy's
shoes and imagine what her last moments must have been like to
be stuffed into a space that's way too small for your body to
fit into, so you basically have to fold yourself in half.
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Pulling your knees up to your chest and tilting your head down
to your chest, you're strugglingto breathe, partially because of
the way your body is and partially because of the heat.
It's 102° in Arizona and even hotter in this box.
Inside this garage. Your air supply is slowly being
cut off. You struggle to get out and then
to hear the click of the padlock.
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That's when reality sets in and you realize that you are locked
in with no way out and the people that you are dependent on
are the very people who put you here and who obviously don't
give a damn about you. You can only hope that
eventually they will let let youout so you can breathe freely
again. But it never happens.
You are stuffed into a box that soon becomes your coffin.
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All because you, a 10 year old little girl, wanted a damn
popsicle. The next day, around 7:30 AM,
they went to let Amy out-of-the-box.
Her punishment was over, but Amywasn't moving or breathing.
Little Amy was dead 30 minutes later.
After taking time to come up with their story, the pieces of
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shit that put her in the box decided to call the police.
Samantha and John's arrest were just the beginning because Amy's
62 year old grandmother's, Judith and 44 year old cousin
Cynthia were right behind them when it came to being arrested
for Amy's death. These two were charged with
suspicion of child abuse and kidnapping.
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Kidnapping means they impeded Amy's ability to leave or
escape, not that they abducted her.
They were both held on a $500,000 bond each.
Cynthia and Judith were never said to have been involved in
the event that caused Amy's death.
That was all Samantha and John. They were in trouble for the
other torturous and heinous actsthat they had themselves
committed against Amy. A few days after their arrest,
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David Deal had the audacity to ask people to help him with
money so that he could bail out his sister and mom.
Of course, no one was that dumb,so that didn't happen.
But don't worry, David, your turn is coming.
The Phoenix News Times reported that Grandma Judith had told the
police that Amy was a, quote, sloppy little girl who didn't
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like to bathe, stole food and lied.
End Quote. I mean, come on, Judith, did any
of the adults in that house bathe?
And maybe, just maybe, Amy took food from her own home to eat
because, I don't know, she was hungry.
Kids don't steal food from theirown homes.
Food is necessary to sustain life and that's what Amy was
trying to do. She wasn't eating the food for
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enjoyment. At this point the little girl
was starving. Maybe because she was tired of
eating hot sauce and dog shit and wanted real food like the
rest of these fat ass troll looking Pall Malls smoking,
Keystone beer drinking losers got to eat.
After the four pieces of shit were arrested, the other
children in the home were taken into the custody of the state of
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Arizona. Amy's story started circulating
in the media again, and the picture that was shown of her
wasn't even a current picture, it was an outdated school
picture. No one ever cared or loved this
little girl enough to take a picture of her, except for the
man who believed he was her realfather, Kenneth Greased.
He had pictures of Amy from whenshe was a baby and he supplied
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the media with them. One person in this world cared
about Amy, but he found her too late.
During the police's investigation, they were
confused on who Amy's parents were.
They knew that Cynthia had legalguardianship of her, but they
weren't sure who her mom and dadwere.
They soon found that out that David, Daddy David, was a
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resident of Tent City and that they hoped maybe, just maybe,
that he wasn't aware of the torture and abuse that Amy had
suffered at the hands of his family.
It wasn't long though before they found out that not only was
he aware of it, but that he had participated.
In fact, he had been the 1st to use the box as a punishment for
Amy. On August 10th, 2011, Samantha
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and John were both indicted on charges of first degree murder,
conspiracy to commit child abuse, and multiple counts of
child abuse. Cynthia and Judith were indicted
on multiple counts of child abuse as well.
They all pleaded not guilty. Around this time, a memorial was
held in Utah organized by Amy's former teachers at the school as
she had attended. Also, a woman in Phoenix created
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a Facebook event asking people to buy children popsicles in
honor of Amy. Those that couldn't buy a
popsicle for whatever reason were asked to light a candle for
Amy instead. Complete strangers cared more
about this little girl than the people that were supposedly her
family. In mid-september of 2011, just
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two months after Amy's death, the governor of Arizona called
in the director of CPS and askedhim what in the hell was going
on. Amy was not the only child that
had died tragically at the time.At that time in Arizona, a six
year old named Jacob Gibson had also died due to being abused by
his parents. Investigators had started an
investigation into Jacob's abusewhen he was just a year old.
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CPS had received 5 complaints inthe first four years of his
life. Still, nothing was done.
According to the Phoenix News Times.
The County Attorney said, quote,CPS has proven itself incapable
year after year in dealing with children who are victimized.
They don't remove children that they should remove, and then
those children wind up dead. We're not going to do this
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anymore. End Quote.
I agree it is not only ridiculous that there isn't a
database that goes state to state to show that there were
cases of abuse and neglect and afamily before the family moved
to a new location. But that's not the only problem.
What about the cases that are reported and either the results
of the investigation are unfounded or there isn't even an
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investigation done at all? Something needs to be done to
save these children. It's happening way too much and
too often, and while it's good that the people are who are
abusing these children are held accountable after the child is
dead or severely injured, something needs to be done
before it gets to that point. Part of the problem with CPS is
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the overload of work on the caseworkers.
When each caseworker has more cases than it's possible to
handle, things get overlooked orignored because they're rushing
to get through all of them in a timely manner.
More states need a County Attorney like the one in
Arizona. Once he's seen a problem, he put
his foot down and said somethingneeded to change and actually
made an effort to change it. They put together a task force
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to overhaul the system. In Arizona, it was reported that
caseworkers had up to 150 cases each at the time of Amy's death.
After the overhaul, they now aresaid to have 12 to 15 cases
each, which is a huge difference.
There was reported to be a 16,000 case backlog in 2011 at
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the time of Amy's death, and by 2016 it was down to only 280.
It was hours and hours of waiting to get an answer on the
child abuse hotline in 2011, butwas knocked down to a 28 second
wait average by 2016. At least Arizona saw there was a
problem, admitted to it, and took action.
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If only other states would follow their lead.
In January of 2012, a bombshell was dropped when it came to
justice for Amy. Prosecutors announced that they
were seeking the death penalty for Samantha and John, noting
the depraved and heinous manner in which Amy was killed.
These two deserved whatever theyhad coming to them, but I
guarantee even given death, their deaths will never even
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come close to being as torturousas Amy's death was.
They get an injection and go to sleep.
If only Amy could have been thatlucky.
On February 24th of 2012, another 24 year old adult cousin
of Amy's was arrest was arrestedin connection with the abuse
that had occurred before Amy's death.
Apparently this family started turning on each other after
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being arrested and someone mentioned the name of Amanda
Stoltzman. They said they witnessed her
abusing Amy when they had lived in Texas.
I wonder if this is when Amy's mom was still living there
because remember she said she never witnessed Amy or any of
the kids being abused yet this proves it was going on back in
Texas. Amanda was accused of hitting
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Amy, keeping her outside at night with a dog collar and a
chain, and keeping her in a dog crate while the family lived in
Phoenix. In the months leading up to
Amy's death, police were told that Amanda scrubbed Amy's face
with a wire brush because she lied, kicked her in the face,
and forced extremely hot hot sauce in Amy's mouth.
At first, Amanda denied the allegations, but then eventually
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told police that they were true and also admitted to quote UN
quote seeing and doing other things.
First, Amanda admitted to policeshe'd seen her mother, Cynthia,
toss Amy, who was petrified of water, into a cold swimming
pool, according to court documents.
Amanda made this statement quoteAmy's arms were flailing while
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her head was under. When allowed up for air, Amy was
coughing, choking and crying. This happened on more than one
occasion between March 2011 and June of 2011.
End Quote Then Amanda admitted to what she had done.
According to the Phoenix News Times, Amanda told police she
started keeping Amy in a dog crate in 2005.
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Amy would have only been around 5 years old at this time.
So the abuse started immediatelyafter Amy was moved in with this
family and taken from Kenneth, which I think answers my
questions earlier of whether Amy's mother was there and
whether Amy was being abused before her mother moved out.
This quote UN quote Mom knew Amywas being abused, yet chose to
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get herself out of the situationand leave her daughter behind.
Amanda also admitted that she made Amy crush aluminum cans
with her bare feet and forced her to sleep in a pan meant for
a shower floor. Amanda said she'd ruin the few
meals that Amy did get by dousing them with hot sauce.
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Quote UN quote so strong you couldn't bear to be close by or
your eyes would burn in water. Police say Amanda also admitted
that Amy wasn't taken to school and wasn't allowed to play with
other children. Amy was also forced to stay home
whenever the rest of the family left, and all of this was
corroborated by Amanda's family members.
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Eventually, police say Amanda admitted to watching John Allen
lock Amy in the very box that she would eventually die in on
two other occasions. The only things that she denied
were that she used the wire brush on Amy's face and that she
had kicked Amy in the face. Amanda admitted to the rest of
the above mentioned abuse and allegations made by her family,
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including other incidents of herhitting Amy with her hand or
with a belt. Amanda was booked into the
Maricopa County Jail on three counts of felony child abuse in
July 2012, one year after Amy's death. 1/6 arrest came and I bet
you can guess who this one was. If you guessed Amy's alleged,
maybe, maybe not Father David, you would be correct.
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He followed the lead of his mother and sister and was also
charged with child abuse and kidnapping.
He was pulled over in AU haul full of whatever shit he owned
as he tried to get the hell out of town.
Prior to being arrested, David had actually moved up in the
world. He left Tinton City to start
living in a real apartment with four walls and a roof.
Not only that, he was living with his new girlfriend.
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Whoever would want to date this big hunk of a catch is beyond
me. But he found someone.
I mean, they do say there is someone for everyone.
Even with Amy gone, David still was denying being her father and
even had the audacity to tell authorities that Amy had mental
problems. I'm sorry but anyone probably
would have mental problems afterenduring the hell that she went
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through for all those years. And who were really the ones
with mental problems? I would think it would be the
grown ass adults who found joy and got a thrill out of
torturing A10 year old girl, butI digress.
Then in April of 2013, somethinghappened that shocked and pissed
off everyone and left them to wonder what the rest of the
outcome of this case would be and if Amy would even get the
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justice she deserved. Ever.
Prosecutors announced that they didn't have enough evidence to
proceed with the charges againstAmanda Assaultsman and that they
were being dropped. This made no sense and there was
no explanation given by the County Attorney.
I guess that probably probable cause affidavit meant nothing
and neither did her admission ofguilt.
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If they were dropping her charges, then what did that
mean? What happened for the other
family members who had been charged?
It didn't take long to find out though.
One week after the charges were dropped against Amanda, Aunt
Cynthia decided to plead guilty to two counts of child abuse and
one count of attempted child abuse.
She was sentenced on September 13th of 2013 and received 24
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years in prison with lifetime probation.
Four days after this, David followed his sister's lead and
pled guilty to attempted child abuse for an incident prior to
Amy's death. He admitted to putting Amy in
the box a year before her death and throwing the box in the pool
with Amy inside. How in the hell did he get away
with just attempted child abuse?First of all, this is
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full-fledged child abuse and in my opinion also attempted
murder. Amy was placed in the box by
John and Samantha and she died so they were charged with
murder. So shouldn't he be charged with
attempted murder because he put her in the same box and threw
her in the pool? So why does he get rewarded with
a lesser charge and lesser sentence and just get attempted
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child abuse because she was ableto stay alive and not die during
this incident? It makes no sense.
He was sentenced June 6th of 2013 and received a whopping 14
years in prison. Then we get to Grandma Judith,
the queen of this Pigpen clan. She also took a plea deal and
pleaded guilty to attempted child abuse and received 10 year
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prison sentence with lifetime probation.
What in the actual fuck is attempted child abuse?
You either abuse a child or you don't.
She didn't attempt to do anything.
She was a very willing participant to the abuse Amy
endured so far. This is outrageous that these
losers are getting these piddly ass sentences when a child is
dead and was tortured for years at the hands of these monsters.
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Now we get to Samantha and John,the ones who were actually
charged with Amy's death. 4 longyears later, in June of 2017,
Samantha's trial began and no one was there for Amy.
The courtroom was almost completely empty except for
reporter Lori Roberts from AC Central.
She was there every day to show her support for Amy and to watch
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her killers be brought to justice.
She wanted to make sure Amy's story was told to the world and
that she wasn't forgotten. Both the prosecution and the
defense stated that the outcome of Samantha's trial would come
down to whether or not she had told John to get Amy
out-of-the-box before she took her ass to bed that night.
You know the box that Amy had tofold herself to fit into and
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that was padlock shut. All because Samantha told John
that Amy was able to escape fromit if it wasn't locked.
Jurors were given a warning before the 2nd day of the trial
began. They were told that they
couldn't let their emotions playinto their decisions in the
case. This warning was given because
this day was going to be hard. It was the day that they were
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going to show the jurors the pictures of Amy's battered body.
After spending the night in thatbox. 1 juror openly cried while
others turned their heads away as those pictures were shown on
the screen. Amy's little body was lying on a
towel next to the box in the pictures.
She was soaking wet from sweat and it soiled herself.
There was just under an inch of brown liquid covering the bottom
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of the box. Her body was frozen by rigor
mortis in the same shape it had been in while in the box.
Her head forced down to her chest, her knees pulled up to
her chest and her hands frozen by her shoulders in a claw like
position. Her lips were tinted yellow and
blue. Her hair was matted to her head.
close up photos of Amy's legs showed multiple bruises and red
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indentations on her knees, whichwas evidence that the ribbon on
the box's lid had pushed againstAmy's skin for a long time.
Amy's now 18 year old sister, who at the time of Amy's death
was the 12 year old little girl who had spoken to the police,
testified at Samantha's trial. She admitted she lied to the
police that day. She said quote UN quote.
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I wanted to protect my family. I thought it would make me go
home faster. She then told the jury what
really happened that night. She testified that they didn't
play hide and seek that night and that Amy didn't steal the
popsicle. Her, her brother and Amy had
been given popsicles for doing their chores.
It was never said who gave them the popsicles though, but for
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some reason Amy was yelled at byJohn and Samantha for having it.
She said the night Amy died she was made to stand against the
wall with her head tilted back and her hands up.
After this the family ate dinner, but Amy wasn't allowed
to eat. Instead of eating, this is when
Amy was forced to do the back bend where she stayed for hours.
Amy cried saying it hurt, but when she would fall John would
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pick her up by the waist to makeher start all over again.
According to her sister, that was the last time Amy was seen
before the other kids in the home went to bed between
midnight and 1:30 AM. John put Amy inside the box.
Another one of Amy's cousins testified she had been 16 at the
time of Amy's death and said sheremembered a time that she came
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home and found Amy in a dog crate.
She had let Amy out, but then David Deal forced her to lock
Amy back inside the crate. She testified that she was
crying while David told her thatshe wasn't supposed to have let
her out. Amy's brother had told the
detective that one time Amy was locked in the trunk of a car all
night. He had said that they had also
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locked him in the trunk of the car, but he was let out after
two hours. This boy thought he was treated
well because he had only been made to stay in the trunk of a
car for two hours compared to all night like his sister.
At that time, these kids were living in a nightmare and didn't
even realize it. To them, it was normal.
It was their everyday life and what they lived every day.
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They didn't think anything of it.
Detectives testified that after they did several forensic
interviews of all the relative children in the home on the day
of Amy's death, they noticed a common theme, and that theme was
Amy's bad, Amy lies, Amy's stills, and Amy's not allowed to
play. These were the mantras that were
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repeated over and over to Amy day in and day out.
Every day that she was in the home of these evil people, They
were said so much that all of the kids knew them and believed
them. Amy probably believed these
things to be true after hearing them over and over for so long.
Prosecutors then displayed photos of the condition of the
home that Amy lived in. We talked in last week's episode
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about how bad this house was. And in case you have forgotten,
this house was horrible and disgusting.
Porter, the police detective, described the house as dirty,
smelling of urine and feces withused tampons and tissues
littering the ground, clutter everywhere and dirty dishes
covering every available space. The home also had a quote UN
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quote classroom, if that's what you want to call it, in which
the kids were home schooled. Folders for each of the kids
were found in the room. Amy's folder contained pages and
pages of messages the girl had to write repeatedly as a
punishment. The messages included.
I will not steal food from the little ones.
I will answer when talk to. I will learn to clean my room.
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The room that they were talking about was the master bathroom
where the shower was that Amy slept in that was considered her
bedroom. The only thing this little girl
was learning in this so-called home school was that she was
hated by her so-called family and that her existence pissed
them off. The court then played an
interview that police did with Samantha where she admitted to
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knowing that Amy had been put into the box, but stated that
the intent was never to kill her.
She stated that John had plannedon getting her out, so Samantha
went ahead and went to sleep. But what the jury heard next
sealed Samantha's fate. Samantha had hidden the key to
the padlock that John had put onthe box containing Amy.
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She hid it in her bedroom so that no one was able to get Amy
out even if they wanted to, until Samantha was ready to let
them. That's all the jury needed to
hear and on July 5th of 2017, Samantha was found guilty of
first degree murder and was eligible to receive the death
penalty. John Allen's trial began on
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October 30th of 2020 of 2017 andreporter Lori Roberts was there
for this one also. John's trial was a repeat repeat
of what was presented at Samantha's trial, except for one
major difference. He was the one who actually put
Amy into the box. However, his attorney said that
he was manipulated by the adultsin the home.
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Wasn't he also an adult? Could he not think for himself?
And from what we have learned, he is the one that initiated
most of the punishments that were put on Amy on the last day
of her life. It sounds like he knew exactly
what he was doing. The jury didn't buy this either
and on November 8th, John Allen was also found guilty of first
degree murder and was also eligible for the death penalty.
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At sentencing, John cried and said he was sorry and that it
was an accident, but he wasn't crying because of what he did to
Amy. He was crying for himself.
The judge didn't fall for his crocodile tears.
And so the first couple ever to be sentenced to death in Arizona
were Samantha and John Allen. Other family members were also
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at their sentencing hearing crying over the fact that these
two murderous losers had been sentenced to death.
But who was there crying for Amy?
No one, no one was there for Amyat all, except for the
prosecutor and reporter Lori Roberts.
There was no one there for little Amy while she was alive
or after her death. A victim impact statement was
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read at the sentencing from Shirley Deal, mother of the
year, who couldn't be bothered to appear at any of the hearings
associated with her daughter's death.
But she did write a statement tothe judge in 2013, which is what
was read that day. It said quote.
I just wanted everyone in Arizona to know how I feel about
what happened to my daughter. I am so depressed from the time
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I get up until I go to bed at night.
I go to the doctor all the time.I wish she was here with me
every day and night. I have not forgiven you and
never will. The only thing you deserve is
where you are going when you leave this earth.
End Quote. In case you didn't notice, there
were an awful lot of eyes in thefirst part of that statement.
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Seems to tell you who Shirley puts first.
Well, let's continue. It gets even better.
She goes on to say, quote, the death penalty is too good and
too easy for you. I want you to suffer till death
just like you did to my sweet little Amy.
They need to put you all on dog chains and feed you dog feces as
you did to my baby. End Quote.
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Well, that sounds good and all if you're hearing it read.
But if you're the one reading it, that's a different story.
And this statement surely actually spelled her daughter
Amy's name wrong. She named this little girl Amy
with an E AM E, yet in this letter, she spelled it with a Y
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AM Y. This woman, this mother,
couldn't even be bothered to spell her deceased daughter's
name, the name that she gave to her correctly.
Amy literally had no one who gave a shit about her.
Amy literally died over a popsicle.
Amy will never graduate, go to college, fall in love, get
married, or have children because she ate a popsicle and
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it pissed someone off enough to kill her.
All of the so-called quote UN quote witnesses who came forward
after Amy's death to say what they saw.
Why did they wait? Maybe if they would have came
forward when Amy was alive, Amy would still be alive.
No one cared enough to come forward.
No one cared enough to ever takeher picture.
No one cared enough to even spell her fucking name
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correctly. No one cared about this 10 year
old little girl who never asked for anything other than a
popsicle on a hot summer day andshe was murdered for it.
Why didn't they give her to a family who would have loved her?
Why didn't they give her to Kenneth?
He wanted to be her dad. He was her dad, but no, they
wanted her around for their own personal punching bag and so
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they had someone to bully. They are such low lives that
they wanted to bully a 10 year old little girl who couldn't get
away from them if she wanted to and couldn't tell anyone because
she was scared of what would happen to her.
Something has to change. There needs to be a national
database so that a family if a family moves to another state,
that state will know if they have ever had an open CPS case.
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This has happened way too many times.
If there can be databases such as CODIS, then why can't there
be one for people who have childabuse cases against them in
another state? It seems like such a simple fix,
yet here we are and it's never been done.
This should be a priority. The kids need to be a priority.
How many kids are going to die before this is done?
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And with homeschooling, why is there no one to check on these
kids, especially the ones who were suspected of being abused
and then suddenly disappeared from the school system and are
being homeschooled? People have to start caring and
taking a stand for these kids because they can't do it
themselves. Kids don't have rights.
They can't just leave an abusivesituation like adults can, like
Amy's mother did. If you see something, say
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something. It might just be the difference
between life and death. Just one of these people who
came forward after Amy's death had come forward when they saw
the abuse. She might still be alive today.
Amy was hoping just one of thesepeople would have cared enough
to get her out of this situationshe was living.
No, she was surviving day by day, minute by minute, waiting
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for someone to come and rescue her.
But they never did. Why do people wait until the
unthinkable happens and then they want to start talking,
don't look the other way and figure someone else will make
the call or report the problem. Because they probably won't.
They're going to think the same thing you are, that someone else
will do it. If one person would have cared
enough about Amy to pick up a phone to make a call, she could
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still be here today. For photos from today's episode,
jump on over to the Victim's Voice Facebook page and come
back next week where we will talk about the investigation
into the death of Egypt Covington.
Until then, peace out.
Hello everyone, welcome back to The Victim's Voice.
I am your host, Laura B, and this week we are finishing up
the story of Amy Deal. I'm so sorry about having to
take a week off in between theseepisodes, but I have been sick
for the last month. I can't remember ever being the
sick of my life but I think I'm finally over the worst of it.
I'm not 100% yet so I'm sorry ifI sound horrible but I didn't
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want to put this off for anotherweek so I'm going to push
through. Two weeks ago, in the first
episode on Amy Deal, we discussed the abuse that Amy had
gone through in her mere 10 years of life.
The fact that she was abandoned by her mother to a family that
didn't want her because she wasn't quote UN quote one of
them. And the horrific death that she
suffered due to what her family said was a game of hide and seek
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gone wrong. And how the police knew that
there was something nefarious about Amy's death, but they just
couldn't prove it, at least not yet.
These police officers weren't giving up, though, and they
weren't done with this family. They were going to get to the
bottom of whatever happened to little Amy, and they were going
to do whatever it took to get the answers they needed to get
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her the justice that she deserved.
And they finally did. After extensive interviews and
interrogations, Samantha and John admitted that Amy being
locked in the box was not due toa botched game of hide and seek
at all, but a punishment handed down to her by John and Samantha
themselves. Which is no surprise since this
was one of many ridiculous punishments that we know they
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had used on Amy before. This led to Samantha and John
being arrested on the suspicion of first degree murder of Amy
Deal on July 27th, 2011 and these two losers were both held
on $1 million bonds each. So what was the horrible crime
that Amy committed that was so bad that she was locked in this
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box to suffocate overnight for over 7 hours as everyone else
slept? On July 11th, 2011, the final
night of her life, Amy was punished for hours for the
terrible, terrible crime of eating a popsicle.
Yes, you heard me right, the little girl was tortured and
killed because she ate a popsicle.
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Of course the pieces of shit whodid this to her said she stole
the popsicle, but she got it from her house out of her own
freezer. So how is that stealing?
The little girl was constantly hungry as it is, even though by
looking at the pictures you can tell not one of these assholes
ever missed a meal. Amy didn't ask for much, she
knew better. All she wanted was a damn
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popsicle. It was the middle of July in
Arizona and it was ungodly hot, 102° with a low of 85 that day
and all the other kids were eating a popsicle, so why
couldn't Amy? Apparently she was supposed to
just sit and watch the other kids enjoy the refreshing treat
as she sat sweating with no way to cool off and a house with no
air conditioning in the middle of the hot Arizona summer.
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When these subhuman demonic entities found out that Amy had
stolen a popsicle out of their freezer, they were pissed and
started yelling and screaming ather.
I mean, how dare this little girl steal a popsicle?
She should have been perfectly happy watching everyone else
enjoy theirs. So naturally, they tortured Amy,
because torturing a 10 year old little girl gave them some sort
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of sick pleasure. They forced her to stand in a
backbend position for three hours, pulling Amy back into the
position with her back arched, palms and feet on the floor.
She fell every time as she criedin pain.
Then came the jumping jacks and running in circles for hours
while these grown ass adults satand watched, getting enjoyment
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from Amy's misery. But those were just the
beginning of Amy's punishments. The worst was yet to come.
And it did come at around 1:00 AM when, according to court
testimony, John Samantha's husband ordered Amy into the
black box. Other times Amy had been put
into the box, she had been knownto push on the lid with her feet
to get air. Samantha made sure to remind
John of this, and she also reminded him that Amy had
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escaped from the box before. So this time John grabbed a
padlock to put through the holeson the box to make sure that it
was extra secure and that Amy could not escape.
The only places for air to get into the box were some small
holes under the handles. That was it.
Other than that, it was airtight.
John and Samantha then put the box in the garage where it was
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even more sweltering, and they went to bed and slept like
babies without a second thought of the little girl they had just
locked into a box and put into the hot garage.
These people had no conscience at all.
They later told investigators that they planned on checking on
Amy after an hour, but they never did.
When asked why he didn't, John told the interrogators that he
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just didn't get up. He was all snug in bed.
Why would he go check on Amy? John and Samantha fell asleep
knowing that Amy was locked in that box and it didn't bother
them at all. Try to put yourself into Amy's
shoes and imagine what her last moments must have been like to
be stuffed into a space that's way too small for your body to
fit into, so you basically have to fold yourself in half.
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Pulling your knees up to your chest and tilting your head down
to your chest, you're strugglingto breathe, partially because of
the way your body is and partially because of the heat.
It's 102° in Arizona and even hotter in this box.
Inside this garage. Your air supply is slowly being
cut off. You struggle to get out and then
to hear the click of the padlock.
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That's when reality sets in and you realize that you are locked
in with no way out and the people that you are dependent on
are the very people who put you here and who obviously don't
give a damn about you. You can only hope that
eventually they will let let youout so you can breathe freely
again. But it never happens.
You are stuffed into a box that soon becomes your coffin.
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All because you, a 10 year old little girl, wanted a damn
popsicle. The next day, around 7:30 AM,
they went to let Amy out-of-the-box.
Her punishment was over, but Amywasn't moving or breathing.
Little Amy was dead 30 minutes later.
After taking time to come up with their story, the pieces of
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shit that put her in the box decided to call the police.
Samantha and John's arrest were just the beginning because Amy's
62 year old grandmother's, Judith and 44 year old cousin
Cynthia were right behind them when it came to being arrested
for Amy's death. These two were charged with
suspicion of child abuse and kidnapping.
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Kidnapping means they impeded Amy's ability to leave or
escape, not that they abducted her.
They were both held on a $500,000 bond each.
Cynthia and Judith were never said to have been involved in
the event that caused Amy's death.
That was all Samantha and John. They were in trouble for the
other torturous and heinous actsthat they had themselves
committed against Amy. A few days after their arrest,
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David Deal had the audacity to ask people to help him with
money so that he could bail out his sister and mom.
Of course, no one was that dumb,so that didn't happen.
But don't worry, David, your turn is coming.
The Phoenix News Times reported that Grandma Judith had told the
police that Amy was a, quote, sloppy little girl who didn't
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like to bathe, stole food and lied.
End Quote. I mean, come on, Judith, did any
of the adults in that house bathe?
And maybe, just maybe, Amy took food from her own home to eat
because, I don't know, she was hungry.
Kids don't steal food from theirown homes.
Food is necessary to sustain life and that's what Amy was
trying to do. She wasn't eating the food for
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enjoyment. At this point the little girl
was starving. Maybe because she was tired of
eating hot sauce and dog shit and wanted real food like the
rest of these fat ass troll looking Pall Malls smoking,
Keystone beer drinking losers got to eat.
After the four pieces of shit were arrested, the other
children in the home were taken into the custody of the state of
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Arizona. Amy's story started circulating
in the media again, and the picture that was shown of her
wasn't even a current picture, it was an outdated school
picture. No one ever cared or loved this
little girl enough to take a picture of her, except for the
man who believed he was her realfather, Kenneth Greased.
He had pictures of Amy from whenshe was a baby and he supplied
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the media with them. One person in this world cared
about Amy, but he found her too late.
During the police's investigation, they were
confused on who Amy's parents were.
They knew that Cynthia had legalguardianship of her, but they
weren't sure who her mom and dadwere.
They soon found that out that David, Daddy David, was a
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resident of Tent City and that they hoped maybe, just maybe,
that he wasn't aware of the torture and abuse that Amy had
suffered at the hands of his family.
It wasn't long though before they found out that not only was
he aware of it, but that he had participated.
In fact, he had been the 1st to use the box as a punishment for
Amy. On August 10th, 2011, Samantha
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and John were both indicted on charges of first degree murder,
conspiracy to commit child abuse, and multiple counts of
child abuse. Cynthia and Judith were indicted
on multiple counts of child abuse as well.
They all pleaded not guilty. Around this time, a memorial was
held in Utah organized by Amy's former teachers at the school as
she had attended. Also, a woman in Phoenix created
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a Facebook event asking people to buy children popsicles in
honor of Amy. Those that couldn't buy a
popsicle for whatever reason were asked to light a candle for
Amy instead. Complete strangers cared more
about this little girl than the people that were supposedly her
family. In mid-september of 2011, just
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two months after Amy's death, the governor of Arizona called
in the director of CPS and askedhim what in the hell was going
on. Amy was not the only child that
had died tragically at the time.At that time in Arizona, a six
year old named Jacob Gibson had also died due to being abused by
his parents. Investigators had started an
investigation into Jacob's abusewhen he was just a year old.
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CPS had received 5 complaints inthe first four years of his
life. Still, nothing was done.
According to the Phoenix News Times.
The County Attorney said, quote,CPS has proven itself incapable
year after year in dealing with children who are victimized.
They don't remove children that they should remove, and then
those children wind up dead. We're not going to do this
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anymore. End Quote.
I agree it is not only ridiculous that there isn't a
database that goes state to state to show that there were
cases of abuse and neglect and afamily before the family moved
to a new location. But that's not the only problem.
What about the cases that are reported and either the results
of the investigation are unfounded or there isn't even an
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investigation done at all? Something needs to be done to
save these children. It's happening way too much and
too often, and while it's good that the people are who are
abusing these children are held accountable after the child is
dead or severely injured, something needs to be done
before it gets to that point. Part of the problem with CPS is
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the overload of work on the caseworkers.
When each caseworker has more cases than it's possible to
handle, things get overlooked orignored because they're rushing
to get through all of them in a timely manner.
More states need a County Attorney like the one in
Arizona. Once he's seen a problem, he put
his foot down and said somethingneeded to change and actually
made an effort to change it. They put together a task force
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to overhaul the system. In Arizona, it was reported that
caseworkers had up to 150 cases each at the time of Amy's death.
After the overhaul, they now aresaid to have 12 to 15 cases
each, which is a huge difference.
There was reported to be a 16,000 case backlog in 2011 at
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the time of Amy's death, and by 2016 it was down to only 280.
It was hours and hours of waiting to get an answer on the
child abuse hotline in 2011, butwas knocked down to a 28 second
wait average by 2016. At least Arizona saw there was a
problem, admitted to it, and took action.
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If only other states would follow their lead.
In January of 2012, a bombshell was dropped when it came to
justice for Amy. Prosecutors announced that they
were seeking the death penalty for Samantha and John, noting
the depraved and heinous manner in which Amy was killed.
These two deserved whatever theyhad coming to them, but I
guarantee even given death, their deaths will never even
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come close to being as torturousas Amy's death was.
They get an injection and go to sleep.
If only Amy could have been thatlucky.
On February 24th of 2012, another 24 year old adult cousin
of Amy's was arrest was arrestedin connection with the abuse
that had occurred before Amy's death.
Apparently this family started turning on each other after
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being arrested and someone mentioned the name of Amanda
Stoltzman. They said they witnessed her
abusing Amy when they had lived in Texas.
I wonder if this is when Amy's mom was still living there
because remember she said she never witnessed Amy or any of
the kids being abused yet this proves it was going on back in
Texas. Amanda was accused of hitting
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Amy, keeping her outside at night with a dog collar and a
chain, and keeping her in a dog crate while the family lived in
Phoenix. In the months leading up to
Amy's death, police were told that Amanda scrubbed Amy's face
with a wire brush because she lied, kicked her in the face,
and forced extremely hot hot sauce in Amy's mouth.
At first, Amanda denied the allegations, but then eventually
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told police that they were true and also admitted to quote UN
quote seeing and doing other things.
First, Amanda admitted to policeshe'd seen her mother, Cynthia,
toss Amy, who was petrified of water, into a cold swimming
pool, according to court documents.
Amanda made this statement quoteAmy's arms were flailing while
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her head was under. When allowed up for air, Amy was
coughing, choking and crying. This happened on more than one
occasion between March 2011 and June of 2011.
End Quote Then Amanda admitted to what she had done.
According to the Phoenix News Times, Amanda told police she
started keeping Amy in a dog crate in 2005.
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Amy would have only been around 5 years old at this time.
So the abuse started immediatelyafter Amy was moved in with this
family and taken from Kenneth, which I think answers my
questions earlier of whether Amy's mother was there and
whether Amy was being abused before her mother moved out.
This quote UN quote Mom knew Amywas being abused, yet chose to
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get herself out of the situationand leave her daughter behind.
Amanda also admitted that she made Amy crush aluminum cans
with her bare feet and forced her to sleep in a pan meant for
a shower floor. Amanda said she'd ruin the few
meals that Amy did get by dousing them with hot sauce.
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Quote UN quote so strong you couldn't bear to be close by or
your eyes would burn in water. Police say Amanda also admitted
that Amy wasn't taken to school and wasn't allowed to play with
other children. Amy was also forced to stay home
whenever the rest of the family left, and all of this was
corroborated by Amanda's family members.
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Eventually, police say Amanda admitted to watching John Allen
lock Amy in the very box that she would eventually die in on
two other occasions. The only things that she denied
were that she used the wire brush on Amy's face and that she
had kicked Amy in the face. Amanda admitted to the rest of
the above mentioned abuse and allegations made by her family,
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including other incidents of herhitting Amy with her hand or
with a belt. Amanda was booked into the
Maricopa County Jail on three counts of felony child abuse in
July 2012, one year after Amy's death. 1/6 arrest came and I bet
you can guess who this one was. If you guessed Amy's alleged,
maybe, maybe not Father David, you would be correct.
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He followed the lead of his mother and sister and was also
charged with child abuse and kidnapping.
He was pulled over in AU haul full of whatever shit he owned
as he tried to get the hell out of town.
Prior to being arrested, David had actually moved up in the
world. He left Tinton City to start
living in a real apartment with four walls and a roof.
Not only that, he was living with his new girlfriend.
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Whoever would want to date this big hunk of a catch is beyond
me. But he found someone.
I mean, they do say there is someone for everyone.
Even with Amy gone, David still was denying being her father and
even had the audacity to tell authorities that Amy had mental
problems. I'm sorry but anyone probably
would have mental problems afterenduring the hell that she went
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through for all those years. And who were really the ones
with mental problems? I would think it would be the
grown ass adults who found joy and got a thrill out of
torturing A10 year old girl, butI digress.
Then in April of 2013, somethinghappened that shocked and pissed
off everyone and left them to wonder what the rest of the
outcome of this case would be and if Amy would even get the
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justice she deserved. Ever.
Prosecutors announced that they didn't have enough evidence to
proceed with the charges againstAmanda Assaultsman and that they
were being dropped. This made no sense and there was
no explanation given by the County Attorney.
I guess that probably probable cause affidavit meant nothing
and neither did her admission ofguilt.
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If they were dropping her charges, then what did that
mean? What happened for the other
family members who had been charged?
It didn't take long to find out though.
One week after the charges were dropped against Amanda, Aunt
Cynthia decided to plead guilty to two counts of child abuse and
one count of attempted child abuse.
She was sentenced on September 13th of 2013 and received 24
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years in prison with lifetime probation.
Four days after this, David followed his sister's lead and
pled guilty to attempted child abuse for an incident prior to
Amy's death. He admitted to putting Amy in
the box a year before her death and throwing the box in the pool
with Amy inside. How in the hell did he get away
with just attempted child abuse?First of all, this is
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full-fledged child abuse and in my opinion also attempted
murder. Amy was placed in the box by
John and Samantha and she died so they were charged with
murder. So shouldn't he be charged with
attempted murder because he put her in the same box and threw
her in the pool? So why does he get rewarded with
a lesser charge and lesser sentence and just get attempted
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child abuse because she was ableto stay alive and not die during
this incident? It makes no sense.
He was sentenced June 6th of 2013 and received a whopping 14
years in prison. Then we get to Grandma Judith,
the queen of this Pigpen clan. She also took a plea deal and
pleaded guilty to attempted child abuse and received 10 year
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prison sentence with lifetime probation.
What in the actual fuck is attempted child abuse?
You either abuse a child or you don't.
She didn't attempt to do anything.
She was a very willing participant to the abuse Amy
endured so far. This is outrageous that these
losers are getting these piddly ass sentences when a child is
dead and was tortured for years at the hands of these monsters.
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Now we get to Samantha and John,the ones who were actually
charged with Amy's death. 4 longyears later, in June of 2017,
Samantha's trial began and no one was there for Amy.
The courtroom was almost completely empty except for
reporter Lori Roberts from AC Central.
She was there every day to show her support for Amy and to watch
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her killers be brought to justice.
She wanted to make sure Amy's story was told to the world and
that she wasn't forgotten. Both the prosecution and the
defense stated that the outcome of Samantha's trial would come
down to whether or not she had told John to get Amy
out-of-the-box before she took her ass to bed that night.
You know the box that Amy had tofold herself to fit into and
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that was padlock shut. All because Samantha told John
that Amy was able to escape fromit if it wasn't locked.
Jurors were given a warning before the 2nd day of the trial
began. They were told that they
couldn't let their emotions playinto their decisions in the
case. This warning was given because
this day was going to be hard. It was the day that they were
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going to show the jurors the pictures of Amy's battered body.
After spending the night in thatbox. 1 juror openly cried while
others turned their heads away as those pictures were shown on
the screen. Amy's little body was lying on a
towel next to the box in the pictures.
She was soaking wet from sweat and it soiled herself.
There was just under an inch of brown liquid covering the bottom
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of the box. Her body was frozen by rigor
mortis in the same shape it had been in while in the box.
Her head forced down to her chest, her knees pulled up to
her chest and her hands frozen by her shoulders in a claw like
position. Her lips were tinted yellow and
blue. Her hair was matted to her head.
close up photos of Amy's legs showed multiple bruises and red
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indentations on her knees, whichwas evidence that the ribbon on
the box's lid had pushed againstAmy's skin for a long time.
Amy's now 18 year old sister, who at the time of Amy's death
was the 12 year old little girl who had spoken to the police,
testified at Samantha's trial. She admitted she lied to the
police that day. She said quote UN quote.
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I wanted to protect my family. I thought it would make me go
home faster. She then told the jury what
really happened that night. She testified that they didn't
play hide and seek that night and that Amy didn't steal the
popsicle. Her, her brother and Amy had
been given popsicles for doing their chores.
It was never said who gave them the popsicles though, but for
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some reason Amy was yelled at byJohn and Samantha for having it.
She said the night Amy died she was made to stand against the
wall with her head tilted back and her hands up.
After this the family ate dinner, but Amy wasn't allowed
to eat. Instead of eating, this is when
Amy was forced to do the back bend where she stayed for hours.
Amy cried saying it hurt, but when she would fall John would
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pick her up by the waist to makeher start all over again.
According to her sister, that was the last time Amy was seen
before the other kids in the home went to bed between
midnight and 1:30 AM. John put Amy inside the box.
Another one of Amy's cousins testified she had been 16 at the
time of Amy's death and said sheremembered a time that she came
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home and found Amy in a dog crate.
She had let Amy out, but then David Deal forced her to lock
Amy back inside the crate. She testified that she was
crying while David told her thatshe wasn't supposed to have let
her out. Amy's brother had told the
detective that one time Amy was locked in the trunk of a car all
night. He had said that they had also
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locked him in the trunk of the car, but he was let out after
two hours. This boy thought he was treated
well because he had only been made to stay in the trunk of a
car for two hours compared to all night like his sister.
At that time, these kids were living in a nightmare and didn't
even realize it. To them, it was normal.
It was their everyday life and what they lived every day.
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They didn't think anything of it.
Detectives testified that after they did several forensic
interviews of all the relative children in the home on the day
of Amy's death, they noticed a common theme, and that theme was
Amy's bad, Amy lies, Amy's stills, and Amy's not allowed to
play. These were the mantras that were
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repeated over and over to Amy day in and day out.
Every day that she was in the home of these evil people, They
were said so much that all of the kids knew them and believed
them. Amy probably believed these
things to be true after hearing them over and over for so long.
Prosecutors then displayed photos of the condition of the
home that Amy lived in. We talked in last week's episode
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about how bad this house was. And in case you have forgotten,
this house was horrible and disgusting.
Porter, the police detective, described the house as dirty,
smelling of urine and feces withused tampons and tissues
littering the ground, clutter everywhere and dirty dishes
covering every available space. The home also had a quote UN
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quote classroom, if that's what you want to call it, in which
the kids were home schooled. Folders for each of the kids
were found in the room. Amy's folder contained pages and
pages of messages the girl had to write repeatedly as a
punishment. The messages included.
I will not steal food from the little ones.
I will answer when talk to. I will learn to clean my room.
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The room that they were talking about was the master bathroom
where the shower was that Amy slept in that was considered her
bedroom. The only thing this little girl
was learning in this so-called home school was that she was
hated by her so-called family and that her existence pissed
them off. The court then played an
interview that police did with Samantha where she admitted to
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knowing that Amy had been put into the box, but stated that
the intent was never to kill her.
She stated that John had plannedon getting her out, so Samantha
went ahead and went to sleep. But what the jury heard next
sealed Samantha's fate. Samantha had hidden the key to
the padlock that John had put onthe box containing Amy.
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She hid it in her bedroom so that no one was able to get Amy
out even if they wanted to, until Samantha was ready to let
them. That's all the jury needed to
hear and on July 5th of 2017, Samantha was found guilty of
first degree murder and was eligible to receive the death
penalty. John Allen's trial began on
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October 30th of 2020 of 2017 andreporter Lori Roberts was there
for this one also. John's trial was a repeat repeat
of what was presented at Samantha's trial, except for one
major difference. He was the one who actually put
Amy into the box. However, his attorney said that
he was manipulated by the adultsin the home.
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Wasn't he also an adult? Could he not think for himself?
And from what we have learned, he is the one that initiated
most of the punishments that were put on Amy on the last day
of her life. It sounds like he knew exactly
what he was doing. The jury didn't buy this either
and on November 8th, John Allen was also found guilty of first
degree murder and was also eligible for the death penalty.
(27:27):
At sentencing, John cried and said he was sorry and that it
was an accident, but he wasn't crying because of what he did to
Amy. He was crying for himself.
The judge didn't fall for his crocodile tears.
And so the first couple ever to be sentenced to death in Arizona
were Samantha and John Allen. Other family members were also
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at their sentencing hearing crying over the fact that these
two murderous losers had been sentenced to death.
But who was there crying for Amy?
No one, no one was there for Amyat all, except for the
prosecutor and reporter Lori Roberts.
There was no one there for little Amy while she was alive
or after her death. A victim impact statement was
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read at the sentencing from Shirley Deal, mother of the
year, who couldn't be bothered to appear at any of the hearings
associated with her daughter's death.
But she did write a statement tothe judge in 2013, which is what
was read that day. It said quote.
I just wanted everyone in Arizona to know how I feel about
what happened to my daughter. I am so depressed from the time
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I get up until I go to bed at night.
I go to the doctor all the time.I wish she was here with me
every day and night. I have not forgiven you and
never will. The only thing you deserve is
where you are going when you leave this earth.
End Quote. In case you didn't notice, there
were an awful lot of eyes in thefirst part of that statement.
(28:51):
Seems to tell you who Shirley puts first.
Well, let's continue. It gets even better.
She goes on to say, quote, the death penalty is too good and
too easy for you. I want you to suffer till death
just like you did to my sweet little Amy.
They need to put you all on dog chains and feed you dog feces as
you did to my baby. End Quote.
(29:12):
Well, that sounds good and all if you're hearing it read.
But if you're the one reading it, that's a different story.
And this statement surely actually spelled her daughter
Amy's name wrong. She named this little girl Amy
with an E AM E, yet in this letter, she spelled it with a Y
(29:32):
AM Y. This woman, this mother,
couldn't even be bothered to spell her deceased daughter's
name, the name that she gave to her correctly.
Amy literally had no one who gave a shit about her.
Amy literally died over a popsicle.
Amy will never graduate, go to college, fall in love, get
married, or have children because she ate a popsicle and
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it pissed someone off enough to kill her.
All of the so-called quote UN quote witnesses who came forward
after Amy's death to say what they saw.
Why did they wait? Maybe if they would have came
forward when Amy was alive, Amy would still be alive.
No one cared enough to come forward.
No one cared enough to ever takeher picture.
No one cared enough to even spell her fucking name
(30:15):
correctly. No one cared about this 10 year
old little girl who never asked for anything other than a
popsicle on a hot summer day andshe was murdered for it.
Why didn't they give her to a family who would have loved her?
Why didn't they give her to Kenneth?
He wanted to be her dad. He was her dad, but no, they
wanted her around for their own personal punching bag and so
(30:36):
they had someone to bully. They are such low lives that
they wanted to bully a 10 year old little girl who couldn't get
away from them if she wanted to and couldn't tell anyone because
she was scared of what would happen to her.
Something has to change. There needs to be a national
database so that a family if a family moves to another state,
that state will know if they have ever had an open CPS case.
(30:58):
This has happened way too many times.
If there can be databases such as CODIS, then why can't there
be one for people who have childabuse cases against them in
another state? It seems like such a simple fix,
yet here we are and it's never been done.
This should be a priority. The kids need to be a priority.
How many kids are going to die before this is done?
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And with homeschooling, why is there no one to check on these
kids, especially the ones who were suspected of being abused
and then suddenly disappeared from the school system and are
being homeschooled? People have to start caring and
taking a stand for these kids because they can't do it
themselves. Kids don't have rights.
They can't just leave an abusivesituation like adults can, like
Amy's mother did. If you see something, say
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something. It might just be the difference
between life and death. Just one of these people who
came forward after Amy's death had come forward when they saw
the abuse. She might still be alive today.
Amy was hoping just one of thesepeople would have cared enough
to get her out of this situationshe was living.
No, she was surviving day by day, minute by minute, waiting
(32:03):
for someone to come and rescue her.
But they never did. Why do people wait until the
unthinkable happens and then they want to start talking,
don't look the other way and figure someone else will make
the call or report the problem. Because they probably won't.
They're going to think the same thing you are, that someone else
will do it. If one person would have cared
enough about Amy to pick up a phone to make a call, she could
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still be here today. For photos from today's episode,
jump on over to the Victim's Voice Facebook page and come
back next week where we will talk about the investigation
into the death of Egypt Covington.
Until then, peace out.
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