April 8, 2025 • 56 mins
This episode is the first of 2 episodes where I discuss my concerns about gender ideology and it's affects on children. I delve into the changes in language and terminology and why it matters.
I question the shifting narratives and the noticeable rise in young girls identifying as non binary and transgender. My intent is to provide parents with a grounded perspective and understanding of the many factors driving these changes in our youth.
I also examine the controversial topic of gender-affirming care. What does it mean and is it a good thing? Or are children having unnecessary, life changing medical interventions?
I encourage critical thinking about the broader societal narratives and personal challenges that may influence youth, drawing parallels with past trends and social contagions.
Ultimately my goal in this and the next episode is to draw attention to the dangers of this ideology and help adults to understand this topic and it's possible implications for the young people in their life.
My heart goes out to all who are effected by this complex issue and I wish only the best for these individuals. This discussion is a criticism of the ideology and the poor safeguarding for children, not an attack on individuals.
I cannot emphasise enough the importance of open dialogue in safeguarding children's well-being.
The Cass Review: https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/
Genspect: https://genspect.org/
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Substack Article "Who's on the Right Side of History): https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/whos-on-the-right-side-of-history
How 'Trans' Was Redefine - Colin Wright. Presentation at Genspect Conference: https://youtu.be/PO6VL3QJgzI?si=OqL_Pb4pBX1ZmLIm
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Fiona Kane (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the Wellness Connection.
I'm your host, Fiona Kane.
Today, I'm going to be talkingabout something a little bit
different.
Today, I'm going to be talkingabout my concerns in regards to
children and trans ideology.
Now, normally I don't reallycover politics type discussions
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on this podcast.
However, this has become amajor health issue for the
children involved, so I think itis really relevant to bring
this up and to talk about thistopic.
Now I would just like to startby saying some clarifying things
to get started with, becausethis is such a topic that
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triggers so many things that Ijust want to start by saying
okay, clarification, I don'thave any issue with anyone,
whether they're gay or straightor trans or whatever.
I have no problem withindividuals and I always wish
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the best for people and thatpeople deserve to have a good
life and to be healthy and welland all those things right.
This is not about that.
What I'm going to be discussingtoday is about an ideology and
about how I think the ideologymight be damaging for children.
Today, I'm not really going tobe talking about adults, because
that's a whole different topicand that's really far as I'm
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concerned for the most part, orat least from the perspective of
the discussion I'm having today.
Adults are a different categoryand what they do is their own
business, but for children, theyneed adults to protect them,
and I think there's a lot ofmisinformation and a lot of
quite hysterical information andhyperbolic statements and
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things that people say.
So what I would like to dotoday is talk a little bit about
the issue, because I feel likea lot of people who watch this
podcast a lot of them areparents, and you might not have
time to do a deep dive into someof these topics as much as I do
.
So really, what I'm discussingtoday are my concerns around
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children being affected by transideology and some of the issues
around that, some of myconcerns, and that's anyway.
That's the, so you understandwhere I'm coming from.
That's where I'm coming fromtoday in regards to this topic.
Now, I'll first start by sayingthat once upon a time, trans
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individuals well, they wereactually called transsexuals,
and a transsexual was, ingeneral, it was more men who
wanted to be a woman.
It wasn't the other way around.
It was very rare that therewere women who considered
themselves transsexual.
There were usually men, andoften men, who'd been thinking
about this for a long time anddid what they call a transition,
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which is where they do hormonesand maybe surgeries to become
well, you can't change sex, soyou can't actually become a
woman, but to pass as a woman.
So that is what it historicallywas and it was very rare the
other way around, and it was avery small percentage of people
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and for the most part, thesepeople you know they just people
with dignity.
You know they got on with theirlife and you know they weren't
kind of getting all politicallyactive and trying to invade
women's spaces and things likethat.
Well, unfortunately, things havechanged a lot over the last few
years and what we've seen, ifyou look at the data I don't
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have it right in front of me,but the increase in it's
actually three to one girlschanging over now to girls who
believe that they are trans, andthey call it transsexual.
I'm sorry, trans, they call it.
Oh, my brain's gone, so it wastranssexual and now it's yeah,
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my brain's not going to go there, I'll get there in a moment.
Transgender, that's what theycall it, and it's three to one
with girls.
So more girls than boys, right?
So that's very unusual.
And so we've got to think aboutlike, where is this coming from
?
Why suddenly it's like three toone with girls, and when you
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look at a lot of the statisticsand graphics, it's huge.
It's just such a huge thing forgirls.
So I'm going to be just talkinga little bit about that as well
and why that might be, and Idon't think it's just organic.
I think a lot to do withactivism.
So, anyway, and what I wouldalso like to say is that, like,
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in my opinion, what has happenedin this activist area, activism
area, is they've gone aroundand changed a lot of language
and I don't think the changesare appropriate and I reject
most of the changes, if not allof them.
So, as far as I'm concerned,you're not transgender, you're
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transsexual, and even then, mostpeople who would define
themselves that way I actuallydon't believe really are, and I
will talk about that and talkabout why.
Also, what they've done isthey've co-opted the word gender
.
So previously, gender was usedinterchangeably with the word
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sex, and I think it was justkind of a softer word for sex,
because sex is not just acategory of man or woman, but
it's also an act.
And I think just because it wasan act, they kind of used the
word gender as a little bit moreof a softer way of talking
about what roles of men andwomen and how you define men and
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women, as opposed to using theword sex.
So previously that's how youwould understand the word gender
, or they would just talk aboutgender roles, but you could talk
about sex roles as well, butthey normally use the word
gender roles.
But you could talk about sexroles as well, but they normally
use the word gender roles.
What's happened now is they'vechanged the activists have
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changed the meaning of the wordgender and they've changed it to
mean gender expression, andwhat they mean by that is they
mean how you feel inside aboutwho you are, not your actual
biological sex, but how you mayfeel.
So it's your gender expressionand, depending on who you talk
to, there could be any way fromthree genders to unlimited,
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because it's all about how youfeel right.
So that's what they've donewith the language and I
personally reject that.
I think Billboard Chris youcould Google him, he's great.
I agree with what he says.
I think he explains it verywell.
He says there are two sexes,male and female.
There are zero genders andthere are infinite personalities
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, and I agree with him.
I think a lot of our mix upabout this gender ideology is
that they've broadened thedefinition so much that really
just anyone who just likes todress a bit different maybe a
boy who's a bit more feminine ora girl who's a bit less
feminine suddenly they're caughtup in the net of having to fit
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into some category of beingtrans, when they're just a
little bit different to theother kids, right.
So I agree with him and Ireject the whole idea of gender
in the way that they use it.
Also, it's important to noteanother form of language that
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they use when they refer to thesex that someone was born, as
they don't even say they wereborn this way, they say sex that
was assigned at birth.
And sex is not assigned atbirth.
It is observed at birth.
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At birth, it is observed atbirth and in the majority of
cases, except for people withwhat's called DSDs disorder of
sex difference, which is used tobe called intersex except for
those people where sometimesit's a bit confusing when
they're younger the majority ofpeople it is very clear and it
is observed, not assigned.
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The doctor doesn't just say oh,what do we think this child
might be?
Let's just decide it's a girl.
They observe that verydefinitely it is a girl.
Now, people with intersex orDSDs a small percentage of
people, but those people,they're not a third sex.
They still ultimately end upbeing either a boy or a girl.
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They might have extra organsand extra bits, but I'll give
you an example of what I mean.
For those of you who saw theOlympics in France and remember
seeing the female boxingchampion female boxing champion
who was actually a man well, heis an example of someone who is
DSD.
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So he was born.
When he was born, he would havelooked, would have been hard to
tell, because he would havebeen born with a very small
penis that probably looked likeit might have been a vagina hard
to tell right and for thatreason he would have been
identified as a girl when he wasborn.
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But, quite clearly, as he grew,he did have testes, but they
were internal.
But when he got to his pubertyyears, what would have happened
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is the testes would have startedworking and they would have
started to produce lots and lotsof testosterone, and that is
when it would have been veryclear that, oh okay, this is
someone with DSD and his genderexpression is the term that they
like to use, but the way he,ultimately what he is, is a man.
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So, even people with DSD, theyare one or the other, but
they've just got a dominant one.
Sometimes it's unclear.
When they go through pu pubertyit becomes a lot clearer, and
even if they've got extra bits,like if they, if they might have
ovaries as well as well astesticles or I can't remember or
they might have, um, they mighthave uh other female bits
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inside or whatever, they stillwill be one or the other.
So that is the other thing too,because, uh, people with dsds,
often the example given for whythere's more than one sex, sorry
, more than two sexes.
No, there is not.
It's like saying some peopleare born without an arm.
So then there's a third type ofhuman being.
No, there's not.
There's just some people bornwith different differences.
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However, there still is sex,male and female.
They're the only two sexes.
And so the next thing is inregards to with this three to
one ratio, now we've got ofbiological girls believing that
they are born in the wrong body.
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Look, one hypothesis is thatthere's greater acceptance now,
and that is why and isn't itwonderful that we're such an
accepting society and now peoplefeel that they're safe to come
out and say what they truly are.
Maybe there's a small amount ofthat.
You could not rule out that.
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There's some people that thatwould be the case.
However, I actually think it'sa lot.
I think it's a lot deeper thanthat.
I think there's a lot more toit than that.
I think there's lots of thingsgoing on here and we don't
suddenly have thousands andthousands of girls who suddenly
feel safe to come out and saythey are the opposite sex, and a
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lot of it, too, is about whatyou see and what you're exposed
to.
So, when we look at history backin about 2015,.
That's when we started seeing alot more of it in the world and
lived a lot more online and sawa lot more going on.
So that is when Bruce Jennerdid his Vanity Fair cover, and
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as a woman not that he is awoman, but he has transitioned
and believes he is a woman andgives himself a.
What does he call himself?
A Caitlin now?
And that is when Jazz Jenningsdid the TV show.
Jazz Jennings was a small, Ithink, a young boy who thought
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he was a girl, and he did a TVshow where he transitioned and
that's heartbreaking.
If you see any of that show,you go back and watch it.
It is just heartbreaking.
That child is just yeah.
Anyway, I see everything aroundthat as being abuse, the way
that child was expected to playa certain role and then the
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child was saying, oh, I don'tthink.
Maybe I think I'm not reallytrans, but it's too late.
Once you're on the trans train,you can't disappoint your
parents and disappoint thepeople around you, and for
children who get TV contractsand things out of it, you know
there's a lot riding on it.
It could be the family's incomethat's relying on you playing
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your role as someone who's trans.
And you see some episodes wherethey're on and the surgeries
and how damaging the surgerieswere and how they didn't work
and oh, it's just horrifying.
Anyway, that sort of was aroundin about 2015.
Uh, they met that, I think,nature magazine.
They redefined sex.
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They changed it to a spectrum.
Um, that's when gay marriage waslegalized in the us and and I
I've heard some uh, douglasmurray uh says this, which I
think is interesting DouglasMurray is a gay man and a very
brilliant thinker and speakerand writer and he said that it
was kind of like what happenedis we got to a place in the
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Western world where there was areally good reason that there
was a fight for gay rights andequality and all of those things
, and that was really importantand they were really treated
terribly once upon a time in theWestern world and now they're
not, which is amazing.
It's great.
And he said that it's like whathappened is we got to that
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point where everything was okayand so all of those charities
and non-governmentalorganisations and, you know,
activist groups they had nothingleft to do because they pretty
much had achieved equality.
So what they did is they jumpedon the trans thing because they
got their kind of gay rights,and I think he's right about a
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lot of it.
These people just wantsomething to scream and yell
about, and when they didn't haveit anymore, they came up with
something else.
So, anyway, what happened is soall of those things happened in
around 2015 and things startedto change then.
And then there's a sort ofconcept creep thing that Colin
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Wright talks about.
He's talked about it.
He's a biologist and he'stalked about this in one of his
GenSpec conference appearancesrecently, and he was talking
about how, you know, once upon atime they had what they used to
call shell shock, which is whatthey defined the damage, the
mental damage that people wouldcome home with from war.
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And then they kind of now theycall it PTSD, and now they've
gone on to include lots ofdifferent types of trauma, and
trauma is pretty much everythingand anything now.
So everyone's experiencedtrauma and so everyone has PTSD
Not everyone, but it's kind ofit's become a bit like that.
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I'm not saying it's not everjustified no, of course not.
But what happens is, I think alot of these things they get
expanded so much that theyalmost become meaningless.
And there's, there are peoplein there.
It's very real and it's verytrue, but it gets expanded to
the extent that, you know,everyone's got PTSD or everyone
has trauma.
And that's what's happened witha lot of these trans definitions
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as well.
I'll sort of go into that alittle bit more um, so, yeah, so
basically what, what it meansto be trans?
It has shifted and um, and nowit's become what they call an
umbrella term and um, I'm justgoing to go into yeah, so it
sort of says here that sort ofsince.
This is from Colin Wright'stalk.
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He said since the 1990s theword transgender has been used
primarily as an umbrella term todescribe those people who defy
societal expectations andassumptions regarding gender.
It includes people who aretranssexual and intersex, but
also those who identify outsidefemale male binary roles and
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those whose gender expressionand behavior differs from
societal expectations.
That's so many people.
So that just includes any womanthat doesn't like dressing up
in a feminine way or wearingmakeup or whatever, or any guy
that's just a bit feminine, likethat's.
You know, that's what I wassaying before.
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That creeper expands so muchthat it becomes meaningless
because that just covers.
That's why you can include awhole bunch of people now,
because it's expanded so muchthat it's everybody.
So the next thing I wanted totalk about and I just think this
is an important part of it,just this history part of it,
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just so you can kind of seewhere these things come about
and then I'll talk specificallyabout my concerns in regards to
children.
So the other thing is like whenwe look at, say, things like,
say, planned Parenthood in theUS, no-transcript.
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And then they say the genderbinary is the idea that gender
is strictly an either or option,and then again it's about
gender expressions and they talkabout what is quite interesting
I'll sort of go through hereAgain it's the American
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Psychology Association saytransgender is an umbrella term
for persons whose genderidentity or gender expression
and behavior does not conformtypically associated with sex
they were assigned at birth.
So a lot of it's just aboutyour behavior, right?
Which comes back to Bilbo,chris and his.
You know two sexes, zerogenders and infinite
personalities.
A lot of this is just aboutyour personality.
Why do we have to create sortof medical terminology and
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psychology terminology orwhatever to just describe
someone's personality?
So we put everyone in anumbrella.
And it's interesting because alot of these people are the
people that were sort of sayingdon't fence me in and don't call
me certain things and you don'thave to name me or define me.
And then they're defining,they're doing that, right.
So it's just weird, weird,weird.
So the other thing that right,so it's just weird, weird, weird
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.
Uh, so the other thing again,it's like the american
psychiatric association.
Again they're talking abouttraditional expectations.
So they're saying, they'resaying here that it's the gender
expression is the outwardmanifestation of a person's
gender, which may or may notreflect the inner gender or
gender based on traditionalexpectations.
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And so if it's about what'sbased on traditional
expectations.
Does that mean that you wouldbe trans in, I don't know,
australia, but if you went to adifferent country that had
different expectations of yoursex, that you no longer would be
trans?
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You get on a plane, gosomewhere.
You're no longer trans becausenow you've gone to somewhere
with different expectations.
So much of this is just thissubjective nonsense, honestly.
So, essentially, it's like ifyour expression or behavior is
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different from what societywould expect, apparently that
means you're trans, and thereinlies the issue with when they
have the whole LGB I don't knowwhat it is now, there's lots of
letters and pluses andeverything else, but when they
have that, the problem is nowthat the LGB so lesbians, gay
and bisexual have been leftbehind by the T, because,
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essentially, what they're sayingnow is what they're doing, and
what is happening now and thisis my concern about young
children is they are transingchildren who would have just
ended up being either just aquirky girl who doesn't like to
dress in dresses, or whatever,or a boy who likes to dress in
dresses, but otherwise they'rejust boy or girl, or they just
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may or may not be gay, right.
So what they're doing now,though, is those kids?
Instead of saying, oh yeah, allright, you just don't like
dresses, that's fine.
And so many girls have gonethrough that stage too, where
they were real tomboy when theywere younger and they become
quite feminine when they'reolder and others don't Again,
that's fine.
But now what they're doing isthey're transing these kids.
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They're saying well, you'reborn in the wrong body, and
therein lies my issue.
It's like gender expression gofor your life, and this ain't
new.
Guys Like David Bowie and MickJagger were doing this in the
60s.
They were wearing dresses andmakeup and stuff like that.
It's not a new thing, and noone trans them and and cut their
bits off or anything, and theyjust went on throughout their
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lives and, you know, just wereable to be who they wanted to be
when they were that, but that'sfine, right?
So, uh, so this whole like umwhat's his name?
The guy from um, from OneDirection, who likes to wear
dresses a lot, everyone's actinglike, oh, it's the first guy
that's ever done that.
No, mick and David were doingit in the 60s.
What's his name?
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Oh, he's on the top of my lips,the pretty one who's an actor
now as well.
Whatever, harry, harry, I thinkit might be Harry.
So anyway, you know good on him, harry, I think it might be
Harry.
So anyway, you know good on him.
Fine, but it's just, it's notnew and and that's fine, and,
yes, you can dress in a dressand not have to be transed as
well.
And the problem is it'sactually the a lot of the gay
children that are being damagedby this, or just kids that they
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like dressing up in the way thatthey might have been expected
to.
So there's nothing wrong withthat, that's fine.
But what's happening now is whatwe're seeing is this rapid,
growing number of girlsidentifying as boys, and they're
calling it gender dysphoria.
And gender dysphoria isbecoming sort of almost like a
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social contagion, and I'll talkto you about some of the reasons
why this might be such a bigdeal for girls who now think
that they're boys, right.
So there's a few reasons whythis can be, and I'm actually
going to go through it in moredetail when I talk about
actually I might even make itanother episode.
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I think I'll do an episodewhere I'm going to be talking
about someone who is adetransitioner, so a young woman
who thought that she was a boyand started doing all the
transitioning and then laterrealized that no, she really was
a girl.
And I might go through herstory a bit slower and in
another episode, so that you canget the gist of this.
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So, please, if you're notreally sure about this one,
please watch that one too.
I'll probably make it the nextepisode so that you can get the
full idea of what my concernwith the children so what's
happening now is.
So people used to become atranssexual and they used to
have they would have these,which is invasive and
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irreversible medications andsurgeries.
But instead of calling itgender reassignment, now we call
it gender affirming care.
Well, I don't, but that is thedefinition of it.
Now it's called genderaffirming care.
And gender affirming care is,unfortunately.
The problem with it is because,okay, I know that people might
say, well, it's probably nothappening, hardly at all, and it
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doesn't happen in Australia andin the US, and I've got people
who watch from all over theplace but there are young
children being put on pubertyblockers.
The activists say they arefully reversible and don't cause
any harm, but it's simply nottrue.
And there is a report calledthe Cass Report, which is a very
thorough report done by adoctor called Hilary Cass who
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looked at this in detail.
It is simply not true.
These puberty blockers aredamaging children.
They previously were used withchildren who had precocious
puberty.
So if you have, say, afive-year-old or a
seven-year-old who starts goingthrough puberty, they would put
them on it to block theirpuberty because it was
considered that the risks wouldbe worth it.
Based on going through pubertythat early is probably not a
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good idea and even then there'sdefinitely risks associated, but
there was kind of a purposebehind it.
Now what they do is they sayit's kind of a pause button and
we'll just do a pause.
But they do it for children whowould probably be getting to a
time where they're about to gothrough puberty and what they're
finding is that once they dothis, they actually don't go
through puberty.
And you know, ideologues wouldthink that's a good thing.
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But the problem is that you needto go through puberty and
puberty is a really importantpart, not just for about sex,
but for so many reasons thatpuberty is important, uh, but
also most of these children.
Interesting fact, fun fact, ishistorically we've known that
puberty is the solution for thisgender dysphoria in something
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like 85 to 95% of cases.
So letting the children just gothrough puberty usually fixes
the problem.
So anything that stops it fromhappening and often I think, if
not always, stops it fromhappening for good, depending on
how long you're on thosepuberty blockers for not a good
thing.
But there's also other healthissues surrounded with this,
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which is what happens is a lotof these children end up going
through and I don't know if it'sa combination of the blockers
and then this cross-sex hormonesthat go on, or one or the other
, or both, but anyway a lot ofthem they start going through
menopause.
So they go through menopausewhen they're in their teens or
their early twenties, right, andso we don't want these sorts of
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issues where they're havingissues with bone density and
losing their hair and sort ofmale pattern baldness and all
sorts of issues.
I mean, I want that happeningto young women or just young
people, and so, yeah, they'regiven this gender, this is all
gender affirming care and youmight say, well, look, they
wouldn't do it unless they werereally sure, and I'm sure
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they're getting assessed andblah, blah, blah, no, so in
Australia it is legal to dothings like what they call top
surgery, because they likegiving things names that sound
nice.
But top surgery is a doublemastectomy.
They're giving these to girlswho are, I think, 16 or maybe 17
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in Australia.
So they are not 18 and theydon't understand the
ramifications of this.
And what they also don'tunderstand is one of the
problems with the gender, thepuberty blockers and the
cross-sex hormones is in many,many cases they make you
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infertile forever and they alsowill affect your ability to
enjoy sex, so they couldactually stop you from ever
being able to orgasm.
And you may or may not thinkthat's important, but I don't
think we have.
I don't think we're allowed tomake that decision for children.
I think that they should beallowed to grow up and figure
that out for themselves anddecide what they do and don't
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want.
But us taking away thatimportant right of theirs to
grow up to be able to have thoseexperiences, I don't think
there's any adult who should beallowed to make that choice on
behalf of children.
Children don't know.
Their brains don't finishdeveloping until we're around 25
.
But we think an 11-year-oldknows whether or not they want
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to have children or may everwant to have pleasure in sex
right, seriously, this is a bigproblem for children.
So the other thing is, too, thatwhat's happened is around the
world because of these activismhas gone through all of the, the
medical associations and thepsychological associations and
things.
What happens now is if you takeyour child to a therapist, more
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often than not in Westerncountries, including Australia,
they are expected to do what iscalled affirmation-only therapy,
and affirmation-only therapy issaying yes, you really are in
the wrong body, let's help youtransition when the time comes,
but that's the only therapy thatthey're allowed to do.
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So if they say, well, maybe youwere born in the wrong body,
maybe not, let's spend some timeexploring that.
If they do that, that'sactually not considered good
practice anymore and in someplaces they can get in a lot of
trouble for that and lose theirjobs.
So, and what they're doing nowis again, you know I said they
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changed language.
Well, they're changing languagebecause what they've done is
they've taken away.
So they used to be somethingcalled.
What was it called?
Oh, gay conversion therapy,right?
So conversion therapy was aterrible, terrible thing, and it
was a therapy where they didthings like electric shock
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treatments and things to try andtake the gay away from someone.
So they were literally tryingto stop people from being gay
and make them be straight, whichI don't believe you can do, but
anyway, and they did horrificthings to people in the name of
this conversion therapy.
So what you hear them now talkabout, what activists talk about
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now is they talk aboutconversion therapy and how these
people want to do conversiontherapy and how we need to ban
it.
Well, what conversion therapyis now?
You've got to just payattention to the language,
because it's all changed, so youjust can't assume because
things sound like oh well, yeah,ban conversion therapy.
Yes, I agree with that, and ifit was the old kind, I would be
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right with you.
I'd be signing that petition.
But what conversion therapymeans now is what I just
described to you in regards toexploring things with the child
who comes in or who wants totransition.
So conversion therapy is classedas anything except for
affirmation.
So if you don't say yes, you'redefinitely in the wrong body.
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Yes, let's just go down thatone path, and that one path only
because there could be no otherreasons, then that is classed
as conversion therapy, justsaying, hey, let's explore this.
Maybe, maybe not, but let'sexplore it.
And that is so ridiculousbecause the whole thing about
psychology.
Jordan Peterson talks aboutthis, a famous psychologist.
He says that you don't affirmanyone when they come to you as
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a psychology patient, you don'tsay, yeah, okay, you've come
here, you've got all theseissues, but, yes, you're right
about everything.
No, you help them explorewhat's going on with their
thought process.
That could be an issue andtherein lies the issue as well
that it used to be genderdysphoria, which is what this is
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kind of called where you dofeel like maybe you were born in
the wrong body.
That was classed it was in theDSM manual, so it would be a
mental health issue.
And now what they've done?
I don't know if they've removedit or they're removing it and
they're kind of taking it awaybecause it's like no longer a
mental health issue.
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It's just how you feel and it'sjust something that we all have
to just affirm.
So they've actually takensomething that is actually a
mental health issue and turnedit into an issue that you can't
question and you must affirm.
And that person is absolutelyright every single time, even
though we know that previously85 to 95 percent, somewhere in
that amount I think it wascloser to 95 percent of people
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once they went through puberty.
They were fine and they weren'ttrans.
They went on with their lifeand they didn't need any of that
and they were perfectly fine.
So we know that puberty is thecure.
But what we're doing now iswhere she's sort of just saying
oh yes, all 100% of people whojust are, we're going to agree
with it, we're going to go alongwith it.
And in regards to thedetransition thing, the people
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on the other side who realizethat they've made a mistake it's
popular in the trans activistcommunity to say that it's only
1% of people.
In more recent times, wpathhave been more honest about it.
Wpath are an activistorganization who are trying to
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pretend they're a medicalorganisation and they're the
experts on gender affirming careand how it should be done and
policies and processes and allof that.
So they've kind of come alongwolf in sheep's clothing and
pretended they're a medicalorganisation when they are an
activist organisation andthey're the ones that have
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tricked all of theseassociations and medical people,
everything to get involved inthis stuff.
And it's now sort of becomingclearer and clearer that WPATH
are not who they said they were.
They are an activist-runorganisation, not working on
science, that is for sure.
But anyway, even now they aresaying it's more like 30% are
regretting these transitions andwhen you consider that some of
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what they have done isirreversible and life-changing
forever and essentially, onceyou get into the medical side of
this stuff, most of thesepeople will be lifetime medical
patients and often with ashortened life expectancy
because of the health issuesassociated with these things,
it's a major issue.
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The 30% is a major issue.
I think 30% is way more thanthat because, like I said, it
used to be 95% of people, evenif I'm wrong and it's more like
85%.
That's, most people were fineand didn't need those changes.
So doing this wholeaffirmation-only therapy is so
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dangerous because so many peoplechange their minds.
And the issue in regards to thisis as far as when they'd refer
to studies and they used to say1% and all that sort of stuff,
what they did is they onlyfollowed up people in the first
three months after their surgery.
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And what we do know and I'll gointo it more when I talk about
this detransitionist story butwhat we do know is the first
three months after surgery,people do have what they
describe as a euphoria, a transeuphoria, and they feel like
because they've been sold.
They've been told that thesolution to all their problems
is changing their sex.
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They have been told that thereason they're having mental
health issues, or the reasonthey feel bad about their body
or the reason they feel badabout themselves, is because
they've been born in the wrongbody.
It's the only reason it couldpossibly be.
And so they are told that oncethey do the transition in
inverted commas and become theopposite sex which they actually
can't, however, they're soldthis bill of goods that is not
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true, that everything will befine, all of their mental health
issues will go away and theywill feel fabulous and it will
be wonderful.
So initially they do have like,they're elated because it's
like, you know, maybe this hasbeen a process that's been going
for years and they're finallydoing it and they're finally
going to be okay.
So they do have that that doesnot last, and what we do know is
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the rates of careful with thelanguage because of YouTube.
But the rates of life-endingchoices that these people make
goes back to the same as it wasbefore they had the surgery, up
within 12 months of the surgery.
So these people have they'vealready got mental health issues
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and um, and the rates ofwhether or not they act on that
in a terrible way does notchange.
Except for that first sort of12 months, they feel good about
the surgery.
Um, most of them regret itafter that 12 months.
I'll just say many of themregret it after that Not most,
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but many.
What we also find is that thesepeople don't tend to go back to
their doctors because theydon't want to go back to the
people who they feel lied tothem and butchered them.
So that's also why there's alack of data about people who
detransition because they willnot go back to those doctors.
The third thing is that whenHillary Cass did the Cass report
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which was this really thoroughreport that looked at this and
looked at the problems withchildren around this is what she
found is that she was askingfor data and the clinics were
not just, they just weren'tkeeping the data, and that's a
really.
That's a great trick to do whenyou want statistics to sit well
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with you is just don't ask thequestion, don't ask the question
, don't keep the stats, and thenyou can keep saying there's
only 1% detransition, as youknow.
It's not true, but hey, you'renot counting, so you don't have
to tell them right.
And what happened is there wasone particular doctor now I've
talked about this before inanother podcast, but there's one
particular doctor who recentlyand she's one of these doctors
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that does this gender affirmingcare medicine they call it she
does the surgeries and she'svery proud of it and she thinks
what she's doing is a wonderfulthing.
And she started looking more atthe data, to sort of because
she wanted to go into the datato prove that she was right and
that what she was doing wasmaking the children's lives
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better and it was making adifference.
And wasn't it such a greatthing she was doing?
And the data didn't actuallysupport her, and so she didn't
release that data.
Later on it got found, but shedidn't release the data because
it didn't support her hypothesisand she's still doing it.
So she's done her own researchand found out that she is
damaging children and nothelping them, and she's still
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doing it and just won't releasethe data because it doesn't go
along with her beliefs.
Because this is about activismand I just want to explain to
you a little bit more about youknow, from an activism point of
view, what this is.
So trans activism entails aview that philosophically,
politically and sociallybetterment involves the
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decimation of the powerful andthe liberation of the vulnerable
entails a view thatphilosophically, politically and
socially betterment involvesthe decimation of the powerful
and the liberation of thevulnerable.
In this case, the vulnerableare trans people especially well
, depending on where you are,but it's trans people who they
call people of colour, which isa term that they use in the US,
since trans people enduresuffering, suffering which
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strikes any sane person as aresult of the confused idea that
you were born in the wrong body, but the suffering must be
imposed by an oppressor.
So, instead of the fact thatthey're suffering because they
have mental health issues, someof them are autistic, some of
them are, and so autism is kindof why this has come about in
those cases.
Some of them are, and so autismis kind of why this has come
about in those cases.
Some of them are people whohave been assaulted, sexually
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assaulted, or those issues willbe through some other childhood
trauma that has caused this tocome on.
But instead of saying it couldbe something like that, it's
just the only reason that thesetrans people could be having
mental health issues or havingissues is because there's got to
be an oppressor, and this isthe whole Marxist theory thing
that's come about now, where thewhole world is divided into
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oppressor and oppressed and soanyway, so the way the activism
sees it is, these people areoppressed and essentially, who
they're oppressed by?
Well, they're oppressed by whatthey call a
cis-hetero-patriarchy, colonials, and essentially that's people
who I'm classed I reject thetone, but I am classed as cis
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because I'm a woman whoidentifies as woman, you know,
hetero, so I'm heterosexual.
White because it's, you know,of course, and but also the
patriarchy, right, oh, and thecolonialists, because that's
just Marxism 101, right?
So they're all the oppressors.
So this activism is about that.
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So the activism is actually andthis is what you see the
activist groups do it's aboutcreating an oppressed class.
And they tell people whoidentify as trans, which is such
a huge cohort of people now,because the definition is so
broad they tell them that theyare oppressed and that people
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hate them and people are out toget them.
They refer to trans genocide.
Where, Like, where are all thelike the dead body, like the
transgender they?
So they use all of this reallyhyperbolic language.
They essentially train thesekids into thinking that they're
oppressed.
They tell these kids that theyare likely to end their lives if
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they don't get the affirmingcare they deserve.
They tell these kids that ifpeople don't use their preferred
pronouns or don't accept themblah, blah, blah that that means
they're hateful and they andthey don't want them to exist
and that so they.
They basically just they'refodder for these activists and
they just turn.
They turn these children in andthese, these young people into
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perpetual victims where largelythese things just are not true.
But it's really easy toconvince the children that it is
true when they're beingpersecuted and they're oppressed
, and that is why they freak outso much and the smallest thing
or if someone doesn't use theirpreferred pronouns or whatever
it is.
So this is actually like arevolution.
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But instead of being like thistop down revolution, what
they're doing is they're sort ofum, basically creating these,
um, these damaged children whowill, uh, who will ultimately be
angry and will, will, fight therevolution, because I would be
angry if adults had let me downthis much and let me harm my
body and harm myself in thiskind of way and essentially it
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kind of champions the wholemental health and victim status,
which is what this wholeoppressor-oppressed thing does.
So children actually want to.
This is part of that wholecontagion thing, especially with
young women, is, first of all,kids.
They want to be revolutionariesand they want to be activists
and they want to stand up to themen, and all that because I
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wanted to do that when I wasyoung too.
So it's like really, reallynormal that they want to do that
, so they want to stand up forthe oppressed or be in the
oppressed club, and the lastthing they want to be is the
oppressor.
So, if you think about this andthis is why so many of them
call themselves non-binary asfar as I'm concerned, non-binary
means nothing.
It just means special anddifferent, as opposed to being
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straight.
So I think that what happens iswhen you think about the fact
that at the moment in oursociety, because of all of this
Marxism that's going on withthis trans ideology, is the
worst thing that you can be isan oppressor.
An oppressor is someone who isstraight and what they call
cisgendered, which I said beforeis, just means that you, you
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are the sex that you were bornas and you believe you are uh
and hetero, heteronormative,which means that you are
heterosexual and and generallywhite comes into it as well.
I don't like to sort of bringup all the race stuff, but it's
just part of it, right, it kindof all goes together.
So if you think that you arepart of that community, and that
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community is the worstcommunity to be part of because
they're oppressors and they'rehorrible and they're mean and
all that kind of stuff, youwould want to identify as being
one of the oppressed group, andso that's one of the reasons as
well that it's a socialcontagion and of course, there
always has been socialcontagions with young girls.
When I was younger it wasanorexia and bulimia.
And in more recent years, evenjust the last couple of years,
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on TikTok, there's been anexplosion of young women who
have been diagnosed with thingslike Tourette's syndrome.
And it's because they'rewatching these influencers with
Tourette's and these girls arestarting to get and they know
it's from the influencersbecause not only do they have
Tourette's but they're sayingthe things in the accent of the
influencers which is a differentaccent to their own, so they're
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suddenly using like a Britishaccent or something when they're
American.
So we know that girls are veryvulnerable to this.
We're very vulnerable to trendsand doing.
You know, and the other thingthat you know in previous years.
And there's still a thing Ithink is like the cutting thing
that a lot of young girls havebeen doing.
So girls are very vulnerable tothat.
We're also very vulnerable toyou know.
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Girls are very vulnerable tothat.
We're also very vulnerable to.
You know, puberty is reallytough and I don't know, I can't
say what it's like for youngboys.
I haven't been there.
I'm sure they have their ownthings that are tough about it.
It is very tough for younggirls because we suddenly go
from being like one of the boysand we can do things with the
boys and hang out with the boysand whatever to being different
and being looked at different.
Maybe people are starting togawk at you and you start
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suddenly getting men looking atyou differently, which is very
uncomfortable when you're ayoung girl, and suddenly men are
just looking at you with thatlavishness, sort of oh, it's
just so awful and you don'treally fully understand it.
When you're young you don'tquite know what's going on, but
you just know that it's veryuncomfortable and start getting
even maybe people who think thatthey can touch you and they
were all.
They're poking at you or theyall and and everyone feels like
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they're allowed to comment aboutyour body and your body changes
and it's just.
It's just.
It's so challenging on so manylevels and for girls as well,
because you know we get periodsand and all that the things that
make it tough and you knowyou're wanting to do sport and
you're wanting to, you know, andyou get period and it's
swimming, whatever all thingsthat are just really really
challenging.
So it is really really hard foryoung girls and the best of
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times there's always been socialcontagion, with young girls
doing all sorts of stupid crapto because they should be thin
or this or that or whatever.
This, I think, is just anotherone of those.
But the only problem is, well,obviously, with things like if,
um, if dietary stuff, things goon for too long, they also are
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permanent, uh, damage to someone.
But this, this ideology, hasthe potential to do a lot of
damage very quickly.
Uh, that is irreversible foryoung people and, um, and young
people.
So making these choices choicesis very, very scary and sad.
I will do another episode whereI talk about this
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detransitionist story, becausethis episode has already gone on
for too long.
I just want to emphasize againthat, honestly, my heart goes
out to anyone who feels likethey are transgender or identify
as a transgender, or maybe hasa child who is in this situation
.
I'm not here to make a judgmenton those situations, just to
sort of let you know thatthere's so much political stuff
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that has happened over the lastfew years and so much this
ideology went through theuniversities years ago.
It's in our schools now.
It's gone through manyinstitutions.
Everyone's supposed to put apronoun on their email address,
blah, blah, blah.
It's gone through so manyplaces now it's infected so many
places that this issue is supercomplicated now because it's
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the terminologies and it'sunderstanding the terminology
and so much of it is.
Also, it's introduced to us inthe form of kindness and
inclusion and you know, butkindness and compassion right,
and I'm all about compassion andkindness and inclusion.
However, compassion mycompassion is for the children
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who are being damaged.
My compassion is to make surethat the children get the help
that they need and very few ofthose, if ever, will be needing
to change their sex, not thatyou can actually do that, but in
whatever way that makes thempass or whatever.
My concern is the damage beingdone to children in the name of
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kindness and compassion, that isdamaging a whole lot just to
serve a small number of peoplewho may ultimately need these
interventions.
And you don't just go in.
If you knew that, out of every100 kids, x amount of them were
going to develop a certaincancer, would you cut off the
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bits of all of them just in casebecause you know that one of
them might end up with a cancer?
No, we don't do that.
Well, this is the same thing.
What we're saying is that maybeone of these children might end
up being someone who would havepreferred to have transitioned
when they were younger and washappy if they've transitioned,
and blah, blah, blah, which iswonderful for that child.
However, what we're saying iswe'll damage a hundred, we'll
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damage them all, just in casethat we might save one.
And the way I see it is no, yousave them all and then you deal
, you help the one, rather thantrying to change them all and
tell them all there's somethingyou're not.
And I think it's very confusingto young people when you tell
them, when you lie to them andtelling them that they can
change their sex or that theywere born in the wrong body.
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As far as calling thataffirmation now.
Affirmation is teaching themthat they are okay as they are,
that they're beautiful as theyare, the body that they were
born into is the body thatthey're meant to have, and that
they can learn how to be safe inthat body.
And it might take some time andyou can support them with that,
and they might have the therapyfor that, but that it'll be
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fine and it'll be wonderful andactually, ultimately, they'll be
really glad they have that bodyand that body will do, you know
, be great for them later andand they'll, you know, be able
to have pleasure from it, youknow, when they're older and and
and just all of the greatthings that you can have from
your human body that we don'twant to interfere with now.
So affirmation to me isactually confirming to the child
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that they are in the right body, and I couldn't think of
anything more damaging thanactually saying you were born in
the wrong body and you can onlyever be okay, you can only ever
be happy and have a fulfilledlife and only ever avoid ending
your life.
If you go and get hormones andsurgeries and, and that's, how
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is that?
How is that compassionate I?
And that's the thing too.
They've changed all the termsaround, so the terms that they
you know.
They say compassion, butcompassion, that's what
compassion means to them.
To me, that's not compassionate.
And as for being inclusive,again, yes, look what I was
talking about before in regardsto dress how you want, be who
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you want, whatever GreatInclusion.
Be who you want, wonderful.
Don't start letting men punchwomen out in the Olympics in the
name of inclusion and call hima woman.
That's not inclusive.
That doesn't include women.
It only includes that man or asmall number of men.
So again, we get the wordinclusion, but inclusion
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actually means we're notincluding women and girls and
we're not looking at women andgirls' safety.
Inclusion also means we're notincluding people who are gay,
because a lot of this ideologyreally damages those people,
because it forces them to havesurgeries and things that they
would have not otherwise had.
They just would have grown upto be gay.
So it's very damaging.
And so inclusion is yeah, it'snot the terminology, that is,
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like I said, just all of thewords.
Be aware, any language that'sused is often language that's
been changed, that has adifferent meaning to what
they're saying, and so most ofus want to be caring and want to
be inclusive in some way andwant to be compassionate and
what I'm saying to you in myopinion, compassion actually
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comes from acknowledging truthbut also being very caring and
supporting people who are goingthrough these issues and
understanding that it'sespecially challenging because
there's such conflictinginformation and there's so many
medical people who have beensupporting this.
A lot of it has been changingand probably in my next episode,
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where I do talk about thisdetransitioner, I'll talk a
little bit about swing back withthis and the CAS report and
evidence that sort of supportswhat I'm saying here as well.
Anyway, my intention is not toharm people and people.
Anyone who says what I'm sayinggets called transphobic.
I'm not afraid of trans people.
I'm just afraid for what mighthappen to children who get
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damaged by this ideology, andI'm not anti people being who
they want to be.
I'm just very concerned forpeople's health and mental
health and I think this isbecoming quite a big issue in
the Western world and I thinkthat what we do is we use terms
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like you're transphobic and allthe different language that's
used.
A lot of that is used today tostop conversation, and I think
that we need to have.
This is what I say about thispodcast is important
conversations about things thatmatter.
This really matters and it's areally important conversation.
So I think we need to be ableto have the conversation without
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fear of being labeled all sortsof things, and if people want
to label me all sorts of things,so be it.
Also, I'll just clarify that Iam always happy to have
discussions about this, but Iwill only engage in good faith
conversations where people arebeing honest and really wanting
to engage in the topic anddiscuss this, as opposed to
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people who are just abusive forabuse sake.
Anyone who comes at this froman abusive place not interested
in having a conversation buthaving.
You know I like to haveimportant conversations about
things that matter.
I'm happy to do that, but not Ijust don't engage with people
who just want to be abusive,because that doesn't support or
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help anything.
Anyway, I will do anotherepisode following up on some of
the things I've talked about.
Sorry it's been such a longepisode.
This is such a big topic and somuch to cover, but I just feel
like it's like I said.
I've been able to have a muchdeeper dive into this than maybe
a lot of parents have.
I'm not saying all but many,just because you don't have time
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, because you've got kids, andthat's fine.
So I just want you tounderstand the sorts of stuff
that's going on that might beaffecting your children, so you
can be a bit more prepared todeal with it.
And you know, if this is justopening up a conversation as
well, that's fine.
I am always happy, I'm open tothings and I want to hear.
If I turn out to be wrong withthings, I will acknowledge that
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and I engage with that.
But this is something I havebeen following for a really,
really long time and in thebeginning I was quite supportive
about it all.
But as time went on and moreevidence came through, it became
very clear to me that this ismore damaging than anything this
, this ideology.
And so, uh, if I get provedotherwise, like you know, sure
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I'm happy to look at that, butat this stage that's why I feel
so confident to have thisconversation is, uh, all the
evidence is is pointing in thedirection that this is very
damaging ideology and that's whyI think it's really important
to have the discussion and Ithink adults need to be armed
with this information so thatthey can protect children.
Anyway, I will follow up withanother episode, next week most
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likely, where I talk about thistransition.
I might even just record itvery soon.
Anyway, please like, subscribeand share and tell other people
about this.
Like I said, I'm trying to haveimportant conversations about
things that matter and I willsee you next week.
Thank you, bye.
Hello and welcome to the Wellness Connection.
I'm your host, Fiona Kane.
Today, I'm going to be talkingabout something a little bit
different.
Today, I'm going to be talkingabout my concerns in regards to
children and trans ideology.
Now, normally I don't reallycover politics type discussions
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on this podcast.
However, this has become amajor health issue for the
children involved, so I think itis really relevant to bring
this up and to talk about thistopic.
Now I would just like to startby saying some clarifying things
to get started with, becausethis is such a topic that
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triggers so many things that Ijust want to start by saying
okay, clarification, I don'thave any issue with anyone,
whether they're gay or straightor trans or whatever.
I have no problem withindividuals and I always wish
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the best for people and thatpeople deserve to have a good
life and to be healthy and welland all those things right.
This is not about that.
What I'm going to be discussingtoday is about an ideology and
about how I think the ideologymight be damaging for children.
Today, I'm not really going tobe talking about adults, because
that's a whole different topicand that's really far as I'm
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concerned for the most part, orat least from the perspective of
the discussion I'm having today.
Adults are a different categoryand what they do is their own
business, but for children, theyneed adults to protect them,
and I think there's a lot ofmisinformation and a lot of
quite hysterical information andhyperbolic statements and
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things that people say.
So what I would like to dotoday is talk a little bit about
the issue, because I feel likea lot of people who watch this
podcast a lot of them areparents, and you might not have
time to do a deep dive into someof these topics as much as I do
.
So really, what I'm discussingtoday are my concerns around
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children being affected by transideology and some of the issues
around that, some of myconcerns, and that's anyway.
That's the, so you understandwhere I'm coming from.
That's where I'm coming fromtoday in regards to this topic.
Now, I'll first start by sayingthat once upon a time, trans
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individuals well, they wereactually called transsexuals,
and a transsexual was, ingeneral, it was more men who
wanted to be a woman.
It wasn't the other way around.
It was very rare that therewere women who considered
themselves transsexual.
There were usually men, andoften men, who'd been thinking
about this for a long time anddid what they call a transition,
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which is where they do hormonesand maybe surgeries to become
well, you can't change sex, soyou can't actually become a
woman, but to pass as a woman.
So that is what it historicallywas and it was very rare the
other way around, and it was avery small percentage of people
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and for the most part, thesepeople you know they just people
with dignity.
You know they got on with theirlife and you know they weren't
kind of getting all politicallyactive and trying to invade
women's spaces and things likethat.
Well, unfortunately, things havechanged a lot over the last few
years and what we've seen, ifyou look at the data I don't
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have it right in front of me,but the increase in it's
actually three to one girlschanging over now to girls who
believe that they are trans, andthey call it transsexual.
I'm sorry, trans, they call it.
Oh, my brain's gone, so it wastranssexual and now it's yeah,
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my brain's not going to go there, I'll get there in a moment.
Transgender, that's what theycall it, and it's three to one
with girls.
So more girls than boys, right?
So that's very unusual.
And so we've got to think aboutlike, where is this coming from
?
Why suddenly it's like three toone with girls, and when you
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look at a lot of the statisticsand graphics, it's huge.
It's just such a huge thing forgirls.
So I'm going to be just talkinga little bit about that as well
and why that might be, and Idon't think it's just organic.
I think a lot to do withactivism.
So, anyway, and what I wouldalso like to say is that, like,
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in my opinion, what has happenedin this activist area, activism
area, is they've gone aroundand changed a lot of language
and I don't think the changesare appropriate and I reject
most of the changes, if not allof them.
So, as far as I'm concerned,you're not transgender, you're
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transsexual, and even then, mostpeople who would define
themselves that way I actuallydon't believe really are, and I
will talk about that and talkabout why.
Also, what they've done isthey've co-opted the word gender
.
So previously, gender was usedinterchangeably with the word
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sex, and I think it was justkind of a softer word for sex,
because sex is not just acategory of man or woman, but
it's also an act.
And I think just because it wasan act, they kind of used the
word gender as a little bit moreof a softer way of talking
about what roles of men andwomen and how you define men and
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women, as opposed to using theword sex.
So previously that's how youwould understand the word gender
, or they would just talk aboutgender roles, but you could talk
about sex roles as well, butthey normally use the word
gender roles.
But you could talk about sexroles as well, but they normally
use the word gender roles.
What's happened now is they'vechanged the activists have
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changed the meaning of the wordgender and they've changed it to
mean gender expression, andwhat they mean by that is they
mean how you feel inside aboutwho you are, not your actual
biological sex, but how you mayfeel.
So it's your gender expressionand, depending on who you talk
to, there could be any way fromthree genders to unlimited,
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because it's all about how youfeel right.
So that's what they've donewith the language and I
personally reject that.
I think Billboard Chris youcould Google him, he's great.
I agree with what he says.
I think he explains it verywell.
He says there are two sexes,male and female.
There are zero genders andthere are infinite personalities
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, and I agree with him.
I think a lot of our mix upabout this gender ideology is
that they've broadened thedefinition so much that really
just anyone who just likes todress a bit different maybe a
boy who's a bit more feminine ora girl who's a bit less
feminine suddenly they're caughtup in the net of having to fit
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into some category of beingtrans, when they're just a
little bit different to theother kids, right.
So I agree with him and Ireject the whole idea of gender
in the way that they use it.
Also, it's important to noteanother form of language that
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they use when they refer to thesex that someone was born, as
they don't even say they wereborn this way, they say sex that
was assigned at birth.
And sex is not assigned atbirth.
It is observed at birth.
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At birth, it is observed atbirth and in the majority of
cases, except for people withwhat's called DSDs disorder of
sex difference, which is used tobe called intersex except for
those people where sometimesit's a bit confusing when
they're younger the majority ofpeople it is very clear and it
is observed, not assigned.
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The doctor doesn't just say oh,what do we think this child
might be?
Let's just decide it's a girl.
They observe that verydefinitely it is a girl.
Now, people with intersex orDSDs a small percentage of
people, but those people,they're not a third sex.
They still ultimately end upbeing either a boy or a girl.
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They might have extra organsand extra bits, but I'll give
you an example of what I mean.
For those of you who saw theOlympics in France and remember
seeing the female boxingchampion female boxing champion
who was actually a man well, heis an example of someone who is
DSD.
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So he was born.
When he was born, he would havelooked, would have been hard to
tell, because he would havebeen born with a very small
penis that probably looked likeit might have been a vagina hard
to tell right and for thatreason he would have been
identified as a girl when he wasborn.
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But, quite clearly, as he grew,he did have testes, but they
were internal.
But when he got to his pubertyyears, what would have happened
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is the testes would have startedworking and they would have
started to produce lots and lotsof testosterone, and that is
when it would have been veryclear that, oh okay, this is
someone with DSD and his genderexpression is the term that they
like to use, but the way he,ultimately what he is, is a man.
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So, even people with DSD, theyare one or the other, but
they've just got a dominant one.
Sometimes it's unclear.
When they go through pu pubertyit becomes a lot clearer, and
even if they've got extra bits,like if they, if they might have
ovaries as well as well astesticles or I can't remember or
they might have, um, they mighthave uh other female bits
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inside or whatever, they stillwill be one or the other.
So that is the other thing too,because, uh, people with dsds,
often the example given for whythere's more than one sex, sorry
, more than two sexes.
No, there is not.
It's like saying some peopleare born without an arm.
So then there's a third type ofhuman being.
No, there's not.
There's just some people bornwith different differences.
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However, there still is sex,male and female.
They're the only two sexes.
And so the next thing is inregards to with this three to
one ratio, now we've got ofbiological girls believing that
they are born in the wrong body.
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Look, one hypothesis is thatthere's greater acceptance now,
and that is why and isn't itwonderful that we're such an
accepting society and now peoplefeel that they're safe to come
out and say what they truly are.
Maybe there's a small amount ofthat.
You could not rule out that.
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There's some people that thatwould be the case.
However, I actually think it'sa lot.
I think it's a lot deeper thanthat.
I think there's a lot more toit than that.
I think there's lots of thingsgoing on here and we don't
suddenly have thousands andthousands of girls who suddenly
feel safe to come out and saythey are the opposite sex, and a
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lot of it, too, is about whatyou see and what you're exposed
to.
So, when we look at history backin about 2015,.
That's when we started seeing alot more of it in the world and
lived a lot more online and sawa lot more going on.
So that is when Bruce Jennerdid his Vanity Fair cover, and
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as a woman not that he is awoman, but he has transitioned
and believes he is a woman andgives himself a.
What does he call himself?
A Caitlin now?
And that is when Jazz Jenningsdid the TV show.
Jazz Jennings was a small, Ithink, a young boy who thought
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he was a girl, and he did a TVshow where he transitioned and
that's heartbreaking.
If you see any of that show,you go back and watch it.
It is just heartbreaking.
That child is just yeah.
Anyway, I see everything aroundthat as being abuse, the way
that child was expected to playa certain role and then the
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child was saying, oh, I don'tthink.
Maybe I think I'm not reallytrans, but it's too late.
Once you're on the trans train,you can't disappoint your
parents and disappoint thepeople around you, and for
children who get TV contractsand things out of it, you know
there's a lot riding on it.
It could be the family's incomethat's relying on you playing
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your role as someone who's trans.
And you see some episodes wherethey're on and the surgeries
and how damaging the surgerieswere and how they didn't work
and oh, it's just horrifying.
Anyway, that sort of was aroundin about 2015.
Uh, they met that, I think,nature magazine.
They redefined sex.
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They changed it to a spectrum.
Um, that's when gay marriage waslegalized in the us and and I
I've heard some uh, douglasmurray uh says this, which I
think is interesting DouglasMurray is a gay man and a very
brilliant thinker and speakerand writer and he said that it
was kind of like what happenedis we got to a place in the
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Western world where there was areally good reason that there
was a fight for gay rights andequality and all of those things
, and that was really importantand they were really treated
terribly once upon a time in theWestern world and now they're
not, which is amazing.
It's great.
And he said that it's like whathappened is we got to that
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point where everything was okayand so all of those charities
and non-governmentalorganisations and, you know,
activist groups they had nothingleft to do because they pretty
much had achieved equality.
So what they did is they jumpedon the trans thing because they
got their kind of gay rights,and I think he's right about a
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lot of it.
These people just wantsomething to scream and yell
about, and when they didn't haveit anymore, they came up with
something else.
So, anyway, what happened is soall of those things happened in
around 2015 and things startedto change then.
And then there's a sort ofconcept creep thing that Colin
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Wright talks about.
He's talked about it.
He's a biologist and he'stalked about this in one of his
GenSpec conference appearancesrecently, and he was talking
about how, you know, once upon atime they had what they used to
call shell shock, which is whatthey defined the damage, the
mental damage that people wouldcome home with from war.
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And then they kind of now theycall it PTSD, and now they've
gone on to include lots ofdifferent types of trauma, and
trauma is pretty much everythingand anything now.
So everyone's experiencedtrauma and so everyone has PTSD
Not everyone, but it's kind ofit's become a bit like that.
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I'm not saying it's not everjustified no, of course not.
But what happens is, I think alot of these things they get
expanded so much that theyalmost become meaningless.
And there's, there are peoplein there.
It's very real and it's verytrue, but it gets expanded to
the extent that, you know,everyone's got PTSD or everyone
has trauma.
And that's what's happened witha lot of these trans definitions
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as well.
I'll sort of go into that alittle bit more um, so, yeah, so
basically what, what it meansto be trans?
It has shifted and um, and nowit's become what they call an
umbrella term and um, I'm justgoing to go into yeah, so it
sort of says here that sort ofsince.
This is from Colin Wright'stalk.
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He said since the 1990s theword transgender has been used
primarily as an umbrella term todescribe those people who defy
societal expectations andassumptions regarding gender.
It includes people who aretranssexual and intersex, but
also those who identify outsidefemale male binary roles and
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those whose gender expressionand behavior differs from
societal expectations.
That's so many people.
So that just includes any womanthat doesn't like dressing up
in a feminine way or wearingmakeup or whatever, or any guy
that's just a bit feminine, likethat's.
You know, that's what I wassaying before.
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That creeper expands so muchthat it becomes meaningless
because that just covers.
That's why you can include awhole bunch of people now,
because it's expanded so muchthat it's everybody.
So the next thing I wanted totalk about and I just think this
is an important part of it,just this history part of it,
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just so you can kind of seewhere these things come about
and then I'll talk specificallyabout my concerns in regards to
children.
So the other thing is like whenwe look at, say, things like,
say, planned Parenthood in theUS, no-transcript.
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And then they say the genderbinary is the idea that gender
is strictly an either or option,and then again it's about
gender expressions and they talkabout what is quite interesting
I'll sort of go through hereAgain it's the American
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Psychology Association saytransgender is an umbrella term
for persons whose genderidentity or gender expression
and behavior does not conformtypically associated with sex
they were assigned at birth.
So a lot of it's just aboutyour behavior, right?
Which comes back to Bilbo,chris and his.
You know two sexes, zerogenders and infinite
personalities.
A lot of this is just aboutyour personality.
Why do we have to create sortof medical terminology and
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psychology terminology orwhatever to just describe
someone's personality?
So we put everyone in anumbrella.
And it's interesting because alot of these people are the
people that were sort of sayingdon't fence me in and don't call
me certain things and you don'thave to name me or define me.
And then they're defining,they're doing that, right.
So it's just weird, weird,weird.
So the other thing that right,so it's just weird, weird, weird
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.
Uh, so the other thing again,it's like the american
psychiatric association.
Again they're talking abouttraditional expectations.
So they're saying, they'resaying here that it's the gender
expression is the outwardmanifestation of a person's
gender, which may or may notreflect the inner gender or
gender based on traditionalexpectations.
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And so if it's about what'sbased on traditional
expectations.
Does that mean that you wouldbe trans in, I don't know,
australia, but if you went to adifferent country that had
different expectations of yoursex, that you no longer would be
trans?
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You get on a plane, gosomewhere.
You're no longer trans becausenow you've gone to somewhere
with different expectations.
So much of this is just thissubjective nonsense, honestly.
So, essentially, it's like ifyour expression or behavior is
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different from what societywould expect, apparently that
means you're trans, and thereinlies the issue with when they
have the whole LGB I don't knowwhat it is now, there's lots of
letters and pluses andeverything else, but when they
have that, the problem is nowthat the LGB so lesbians, gay
and bisexual have been leftbehind by the T, because,
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essentially, what they're sayingnow is what they're doing, and
what is happening now and thisis my concern about young
children is they are transingchildren who would have just
ended up being either just aquirky girl who doesn't like to
dress in dresses, or whatever,or a boy who likes to dress in
dresses, but otherwise they'rejust boy or girl, or they just
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may or may not be gay, right.
So what they're doing now,though, is those kids?
Instead of saying, oh yeah, allright, you just don't like
dresses, that's fine.
And so many girls have gonethrough that stage too, where
they were real tomboy when theywere younger and they become
quite feminine when they'reolder and others don't Again,
that's fine.
But now what they're doing isthey're transing these kids.
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They're saying well, you'reborn in the wrong body, and
therein lies my issue.
It's like gender expression gofor your life, and this ain't
new.
Guys Like David Bowie and MickJagger were doing this in the
60s.
They were wearing dresses andmakeup and stuff like that.
It's not a new thing, and noone trans them and and cut their
bits off or anything, and theyjust went on throughout their
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lives and, you know, just wereable to be who they wanted to be
when they were that, but that'sfine, right?
So, uh, so this whole like umwhat's his name?
The guy from um, from OneDirection, who likes to wear
dresses a lot, everyone's actinglike, oh, it's the first guy
that's ever done that.
No, mick and David were doingit in the 60s.
What's his name?
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Oh, he's on the top of my lips,the pretty one who's an actor
now as well.
Whatever, harry, harry, I thinkit might be Harry.
So anyway, you know good on him, harry, I think it might be
Harry.
So anyway, you know good on him.
Fine, but it's just, it's notnew and and that's fine, and,
yes, you can dress in a dressand not have to be transed as
well.
And the problem is it'sactually the a lot of the gay
children that are being damagedby this, or just kids that they
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like dressing up in the way thatthey might have been expected
to.
So there's nothing wrong withthat, that's fine.
But what's happening now is whatwe're seeing is this rapid,
growing number of girlsidentifying as boys, and they're
calling it gender dysphoria.
And gender dysphoria isbecoming sort of almost like a
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social contagion, and I'll talkto you about some of the reasons
why this might be such a bigdeal for girls who now think
that they're boys, right.
So there's a few reasons whythis can be, and I'm actually
going to go through it in moredetail when I talk about
actually I might even make itanother episode.
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I think I'll do an episodewhere I'm going to be talking
about someone who is adetransitioner, so a young woman
who thought that she was a boyand started doing all the
transitioning and then laterrealized that no, she really was
a girl.
And I might go through herstory a bit slower and in
another episode, so that you canget the gist of this.
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So, please, if you're notreally sure about this one,
please watch that one too.
I'll probably make it the nextepisode so that you can get the
full idea of what my concernwith the children so what's
happening now is.
So people used to become atranssexual and they used to
have they would have these,which is invasive and
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irreversible medications andsurgeries.
But instead of calling itgender reassignment, now we call
it gender affirming care.
Well, I don't, but that is thedefinition of it.
Now it's called genderaffirming care.
And gender affirming care is,unfortunately.
The problem with it is because,okay, I know that people might
say, well, it's probably nothappening, hardly at all, and it
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doesn't happen in Australia andin the US, and I've got people
who watch from all over theplace but there are young
children being put on pubertyblockers.
The activists say they arefully reversible and don't cause
any harm, but it's simply nottrue.
And there is a report calledthe Cass Report, which is a very
thorough report done by adoctor called Hilary Cass who
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looked at this in detail.
It is simply not true.
These puberty blockers aredamaging children.
They previously were used withchildren who had precocious
puberty.
So if you have, say, afive-year-old or a
seven-year-old who starts goingthrough puberty, they would put
them on it to block theirpuberty because it was
considered that the risks wouldbe worth it.
Based on going through pubertythat early is probably not a
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good idea and even then there'sdefinitely risks associated, but
there was kind of a purposebehind it.
Now what they do is they sayit's kind of a pause button and
we'll just do a pause.
But they do it for children whowould probably be getting to a
time where they're about to gothrough puberty and what they're
finding is that once they dothis, they actually don't go
through puberty.
And you know, ideologues wouldthink that's a good thing.
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But the problem is that you needto go through puberty and
puberty is a really importantpart, not just for about sex,
but for so many reasons thatpuberty is important, uh, but
also most of these children.
Interesting fact, fun fact, ishistorically we've known that
puberty is the solution for thisgender dysphoria in something
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like 85 to 95% of cases.
So letting the children just gothrough puberty usually fixes
the problem.
So anything that stops it fromhappening and often I think, if
not always, stops it fromhappening for good, depending on
how long you're on thosepuberty blockers for not a good
thing.
But there's also other healthissues surrounded with this,
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which is what happens is a lotof these children end up going
through and I don't know if it'sa combination of the blockers
and then this cross-sex hormonesthat go on, or one or the other
, or both, but anyway a lot ofthem they start going through
menopause.
So they go through menopausewhen they're in their teens or
their early twenties, right, andso we don't want these sorts of
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issues where they're havingissues with bone density and
losing their hair and sort ofmale pattern baldness and all
sorts of issues.
I mean, I want that happeningto young women or just young
people, and so, yeah, they'regiven this gender, this is all
gender affirming care and youmight say, well, look, they
wouldn't do it unless they werereally sure, and I'm sure
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they're getting assessed andblah, blah, blah, no, so in
Australia it is legal to dothings like what they call top
surgery, because they likegiving things names that sound
nice.
But top surgery is a doublemastectomy.
They're giving these to girlswho are, I think, 16 or maybe 17
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in Australia.
So they are not 18 and theydon't understand the
ramifications of this.
And what they also don'tunderstand is one of the
problems with the gender, thepuberty blockers and the
cross-sex hormones is in many,many cases they make you
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infertile forever and they alsowill affect your ability to
enjoy sex, so they couldactually stop you from ever
being able to orgasm.
And you may or may not thinkthat's important, but I don't
think we have.
I don't think we're allowed tomake that decision for children.
I think that they should beallowed to grow up and figure
that out for themselves anddecide what they do and don't
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want.
But us taking away thatimportant right of theirs to
grow up to be able to have thoseexperiences, I don't think
there's any adult who should beallowed to make that choice on
behalf of children.
Children don't know.
Their brains don't finishdeveloping until we're around 25
.
But we think an 11-year-oldknows whether or not they want
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to have children or may everwant to have pleasure in sex
right, seriously, this is a bigproblem for children.
So the other thing is, too, thatwhat's happened is around the
world because of these activismhas gone through all of the, the
medical associations and thepsychological associations and
things.
What happens now is if you takeyour child to a therapist, more
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often than not in Westerncountries, including Australia,
they are expected to do what iscalled affirmation-only therapy,
and affirmation-only therapy issaying yes, you really are in
the wrong body, let's help youtransition when the time comes,
but that's the only therapy thatthey're allowed to do.
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So if they say, well, maybe youwere born in the wrong body,
maybe not, let's spend some timeexploring that.
If they do that, that'sactually not considered good
practice anymore and in someplaces they can get in a lot of
trouble for that and lose theirjobs.
So, and what they're doing nowis again, you know I said they
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changed language.
Well, they're changing languagebecause what they've done is
they've taken away.
So they used to be somethingcalled.
What was it called?
Oh, gay conversion therapy,right?
So conversion therapy was aterrible, terrible thing, and it
was a therapy where they didthings like electric shock
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treatments and things to try andtake the gay away from someone.
So they were literally tryingto stop people from being gay
and make them be straight, whichI don't believe you can do, but
anyway, and they did horrificthings to people in the name of
this conversion therapy.
So what you hear them now talkabout, what activists talk about
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now is they talk aboutconversion therapy and how these
people want to do conversiontherapy and how we need to ban
it.
Well, what conversion therapyis now?
You've got to just payattention to the language,
because it's all changed, so youjust can't assume because
things sound like oh well, yeah,ban conversion therapy.
Yes, I agree with that, and ifit was the old kind, I would be
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right with you.
I'd be signing that petition.
But what conversion therapymeans now is what I just
described to you in regards toexploring things with the child
who comes in or who wants totransition.
So conversion therapy is classedas anything except for
affirmation.
So if you don't say yes, you'redefinitely in the wrong body.
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Yes, let's just go down thatone path, and that one path only
because there could be no otherreasons, then that is classed
as conversion therapy, justsaying, hey, let's explore this.
Maybe, maybe not, but let'sexplore it.
And that is so ridiculousbecause the whole thing about
psychology.
Jordan Peterson talks aboutthis, a famous psychologist.
He says that you don't affirmanyone when they come to you as
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a psychology patient, you don'tsay, yeah, okay, you've come
here, you've got all theseissues, but, yes, you're right
about everything.
No, you help them explorewhat's going on with their
thought process.
That could be an issue andtherein lies the issue as well
that it used to be genderdysphoria, which is what this is
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kind of called where you dofeel like maybe you were born in
the wrong body.
That was classed it was in theDSM manual, so it would be a
mental health issue.
And now what they've done?
I don't know if they've removedit or they're removing it and
they're kind of taking it awaybecause it's like no longer a
mental health issue.
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It's just how you feel and it'sjust something that we all have
to just affirm.
So they've actually takensomething that is actually a
mental health issue and turnedit into an issue that you can't
question and you must affirm.
And that person is absolutelyright every single time, even
though we know that previously85 to 95 percent, somewhere in
that amount I think it wascloser to 95 percent of people
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once they went through puberty.
They were fine and they weren'ttrans.
They went on with their lifeand they didn't need any of that
and they were perfectly fine.
So we know that puberty is thecure.
But what we're doing now iswhere she's sort of just saying
oh yes, all 100% of people whojust are, we're going to agree
with it, we're going to go alongwith it.
And in regards to thedetransition thing, the people
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on the other side who realizethat they've made a mistake it's
popular in the trans activistcommunity to say that it's only
1% of people.
In more recent times, wpathhave been more honest about it.
Wpath are an activistorganization who are trying to
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pretend they're a medicalorganisation and they're the
experts on gender affirming careand how it should be done and
policies and processes and allof that.
So they've kind of come alongwolf in sheep's clothing and
pretended they're a medicalorganisation when they are an
activist organisation andthey're the ones that have
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tricked all of theseassociations and medical people,
everything to get involved inthis stuff.
And it's now sort of becomingclearer and clearer that WPATH
are not who they said they were.
They are an activist-runorganisation, not working on
science, that is for sure.
But anyway, even now they aresaying it's more like 30% are
regretting these transitions andwhen you consider that some of
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what they have done isirreversible and life-changing
forever and essentially, onceyou get into the medical side of
this stuff, most of thesepeople will be lifetime medical
patients and often with ashortened life expectancy
because of the health issuesassociated with these things,
it's a major issue.
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The 30% is a major issue.
I think 30% is way more thanthat because, like I said, it
used to be 95% of people, evenif I'm wrong and it's more like
85%.
That's, most people were fineand didn't need those changes.
So doing this wholeaffirmation-only therapy is so
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dangerous because so many peoplechange their minds.
And the issue in regards to thisis as far as when they'd refer
to studies and they used to say1% and all that sort of stuff,
what they did is they onlyfollowed up people in the first
three months after their surgery.
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And what we do know and I'll gointo it more when I talk about
this detransitionist story butwhat we do know is the first
three months after surgery,people do have what they
describe as a euphoria, a transeuphoria, and they feel like
because they've been sold.
They've been told that thesolution to all their problems
is changing their sex.
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They have been told that thereason they're having mental
health issues, or the reasonthey feel bad about their body
or the reason they feel badabout themselves, is because
they've been born in the wrongbody.
It's the only reason it couldpossibly be.
And so they are told that oncethey do the transition in
inverted commas and become theopposite sex which they actually
can't, however, they're soldthis bill of goods that is not
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true, that everything will befine, all of their mental health
issues will go away and theywill feel fabulous and it will
be wonderful.
So initially they do have like,they're elated because it's
like, you know, maybe this hasbeen a process that's been going
for years and they're finallydoing it and they're finally
going to be okay.
So they do have that that doesnot last, and what we do know is
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the rates of careful with thelanguage because of YouTube.
But the rates of life-endingchoices that these people make
goes back to the same as it wasbefore they had the surgery, up
within 12 months of the surgery.
So these people have they'vealready got mental health issues
(36:18):
and um, and the rates ofwhether or not they act on that
in a terrible way does notchange.
Except for that first sort of12 months, they feel good about
the surgery.
Um, most of them regret itafter that 12 months.
I'll just say many of themregret it after that Not most,
(36:42):
but many.
What we also find is that thesepeople don't tend to go back to
their doctors because theydon't want to go back to the
people who they feel lied tothem and butchered them.
So that's also why there's alack of data about people who
detransition because they willnot go back to those doctors.
The third thing is that whenHillary Cass did the Cass report
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which was this really thoroughreport that looked at this and
looked at the problems withchildren around this is what she
found is that she was askingfor data and the clinics were
not just, they just weren'tkeeping the data, and that's a
really.
That's a great trick to do whenyou want statistics to sit well
(37:28):
with you is just don't ask thequestion, don't ask the question
, don't keep the stats, and thenyou can keep saying there's
only 1% detransition, as youknow.
It's not true, but hey, you'renot counting, so you don't have
to tell them right.
And what happened is there wasone particular doctor now I've
talked about this before inanother podcast, but there's one
particular doctor who recentlyand she's one of these doctors
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that does this gender affirmingcare medicine they call it she
does the surgeries and she'svery proud of it and she thinks
what she's doing is a wonderfulthing.
And she started looking more atthe data, to sort of because
she wanted to go into the datato prove that she was right and
that what she was doing wasmaking the children's lives
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better and it was making adifference.
And wasn't it such a greatthing she was doing?
And the data didn't actuallysupport her, and so she didn't
release that data.
Later on it got found, but shedidn't release the data because
it didn't support her hypothesisand she's still doing it.
So she's done her own researchand found out that she is
damaging children and nothelping them, and she's still
(38:32):
doing it and just won't releasethe data because it doesn't go
along with her beliefs.
Because this is about activismand I just want to explain to
you a little bit more about youknow, from an activism point of
view, what this is.
So trans activism entails aview that philosophically,
politically and sociallybetterment involves the
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decimation of the powerful andthe liberation of the vulnerable
entails a view thatphilosophically, politically and
socially betterment involvesthe decimation of the powerful
and the liberation of thevulnerable.
In this case, the vulnerableare trans people especially well
, depending on where you are,but it's trans people who they
call people of colour, which isa term that they use in the US,
since trans people enduresuffering, suffering which
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strikes any sane person as aresult of the confused idea that
you were born in the wrong body, but the suffering must be
imposed by an oppressor.
So, instead of the fact thatthey're suffering because they
have mental health issues, someof them are autistic, some of
them are, and so autism is kindof why this has come about in
those cases.
Some of them are, and so autismis kind of why this has come
about in those cases.
Some of them are people whohave been assaulted, sexually
(39:38):
assaulted, or those issues willbe through some other childhood
trauma that has caused this tocome on.
But instead of saying it couldbe something like that, it's
just the only reason that thesetrans people could be having
mental health issues or havingissues is because there's got to
be an oppressor, and this isthe whole Marxist theory thing
that's come about now, where thewhole world is divided into
(39:59):
oppressor and oppressed and soanyway, so the way the activism
sees it is, these people areoppressed and essentially, who
they're oppressed by?
Well, they're oppressed by whatthey call a
cis-hetero-patriarchy, colonials, and essentially that's people
who I'm classed I reject thetone, but I am classed as cis
(40:21):
because I'm a woman whoidentifies as woman, you know,
hetero, so I'm heterosexual.
White because it's, you know,of course, and but also the
patriarchy, right, oh, and thecolonialists, because that's
just Marxism 101, right?
So they're all the oppressors.
So this activism is about that.
(40:43):
So the activism is actually andthis is what you see the
activist groups do it's aboutcreating an oppressed class.
And they tell people whoidentify as trans, which is such
a huge cohort of people now,because the definition is so
broad they tell them that theyare oppressed and that people
(41:03):
hate them and people are out toget them.
They refer to trans genocide.
Where, Like, where are all thelike the dead body, like the
transgender they?
So they use all of this reallyhyperbolic language.
They essentially train thesekids into thinking that they're
oppressed.
They tell these kids that theyare likely to end their lives if
(41:25):
they don't get the affirmingcare they deserve.
They tell these kids that ifpeople don't use their preferred
pronouns or don't accept themblah, blah, blah that that means
they're hateful and they andthey don't want them to exist
and that so they.
They basically just they'refodder for these activists and
they just turn.
They turn these children in andthese, these young people into
(41:48):
perpetual victims where largelythese things just are not true.
But it's really easy toconvince the children that it is
true when they're beingpersecuted and they're oppressed
, and that is why they freak outso much and the smallest thing
or if someone doesn't use theirpreferred pronouns or whatever
it is.
So this is actually like arevolution.
(42:09):
But instead of being like thistop down revolution, what
they're doing is they're sort ofum, basically creating these,
um, these damaged children whowill, uh, who will ultimately be
angry and will, will, fight therevolution, because I would be
angry if adults had let me downthis much and let me harm my
body and harm myself in thiskind of way and essentially it
(42:37):
kind of champions the wholemental health and victim status,
which is what this wholeoppressor-oppressed thing does.
So children actually want to.
This is part of that wholecontagion thing, especially with
young women, is, first of all,kids.
They want to be revolutionariesand they want to be activists
and they want to stand up to themen, and all that because I
(42:58):
wanted to do that when I wasyoung too.
So it's like really, reallynormal that they want to do that
, so they want to stand up forthe oppressed or be in the
oppressed club, and the lastthing they want to be is the
oppressor.
So, if you think about this andthis is why so many of them
call themselves non-binary asfar as I'm concerned, non-binary
means nothing.
It just means special anddifferent, as opposed to being
(43:21):
straight.
So I think that what happens iswhen you think about the fact
that at the moment in oursociety, because of all of this
Marxism that's going on withthis trans ideology, is the
worst thing that you can be isan oppressor.
An oppressor is someone who isstraight and what they call
cisgendered, which I said beforeis, just means that you, you
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are the sex that you were bornas and you believe you are uh
and hetero, heteronormative,which means that you are
heterosexual and and generallywhite comes into it as well.
I don't like to sort of bringup all the race stuff, but it's
just part of it, right, it kindof all goes together.
So if you think that you arepart of that community, and that
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community is the worstcommunity to be part of because
they're oppressors and they'rehorrible and they're mean and
all that kind of stuff, youwould want to identify as being
one of the oppressed group, andso that's one of the reasons as
well that it's a socialcontagion and of course, there
always has been socialcontagions with young girls.
When I was younger it wasanorexia and bulimia.
And in more recent years, evenjust the last couple of years,
(44:28):
on TikTok, there's been anexplosion of young women who
have been diagnosed with thingslike Tourette's syndrome.
And it's because they'rewatching these influencers with
Tourette's and these girls arestarting to get and they know
it's from the influencersbecause not only do they have
Tourette's but they're sayingthe things in the accent of the
influencers which is a differentaccent to their own, so they're
(44:50):
suddenly using like a Britishaccent or something when they're
American.
So we know that girls are veryvulnerable to this.
We're very vulnerable to trendsand doing.
You know, and the other thingthat you know in previous years.
And there's still a thing Ithink is like the cutting thing
that a lot of young girls havebeen doing.
So girls are very vulnerable tothat.
We're also very vulnerable toyou know.
(45:11):
Girls are very vulnerable tothat.
We're also very vulnerable to.
You know, puberty is reallytough and I don't know, I can't
say what it's like for youngboys.
I haven't been there.
I'm sure they have their ownthings that are tough about it.
It is very tough for younggirls because we suddenly go
from being like one of the boysand we can do things with the
boys and hang out with the boysand whatever to being different
and being looked at different.
Maybe people are starting togawk at you and you start
(45:34):
suddenly getting men looking atyou differently, which is very
uncomfortable when you're ayoung girl, and suddenly men are
just looking at you with thatlavishness, sort of oh, it's
just so awful and you don'treally fully understand it.
When you're young you don'tquite know what's going on, but
you just know that it's veryuncomfortable and start getting
even maybe people who think thatthey can touch you and they
were all.
They're poking at you or theyall and and everyone feels like
(45:56):
they're allowed to comment aboutyour body and your body changes
and it's just.
It's just.
It's so challenging on so manylevels and for girls as well,
because you know we get periodsand and all that the things that
make it tough and you knowyou're wanting to do sport and
you're wanting to, you know, andyou get period and it's
swimming, whatever all thingsthat are just really really
challenging.
So it is really really hard foryoung girls and the best of
(46:17):
times there's always been socialcontagion, with young girls
doing all sorts of stupid crapto because they should be thin
or this or that or whatever.
This, I think, is just anotherone of those.
But the only problem is, well,obviously, with things like if,
um, if dietary stuff, things goon for too long, they also are
(46:38):
permanent, uh, damage to someone.
But this, this ideology, hasthe potential to do a lot of
damage very quickly.
Uh, that is irreversible foryoung people and, um, and young
people.
So making these choices choicesis very, very scary and sad.
I will do another episode whereI talk about this
(46:59):
detransitionist story, becausethis episode has already gone on
for too long.
I just want to emphasize againthat, honestly, my heart goes
out to anyone who feels likethey are transgender or identify
as a transgender, or maybe hasa child who is in this situation
.
I'm not here to make a judgmenton those situations, just to
sort of let you know thatthere's so much political stuff
(47:24):
that has happened over the lastfew years and so much this
ideology went through theuniversities years ago.
It's in our schools now.
It's gone through manyinstitutions.
Everyone's supposed to put apronoun on their email address,
blah, blah, blah.
It's gone through so manyplaces now it's infected so many
places that this issue is supercomplicated now because it's
(47:47):
the terminologies and it'sunderstanding the terminology
and so much of it is.
Also, it's introduced to us inthe form of kindness and
inclusion and you know, butkindness and compassion right,
and I'm all about compassion andkindness and inclusion.
However, compassion mycompassion is for the children
(48:07):
who are being damaged.
My compassion is to make surethat the children get the help
that they need and very few ofthose, if ever, will be needing
to change their sex, not thatyou can actually do that, but in
whatever way that makes thempass or whatever.
My concern is the damage beingdone to children in the name of
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kindness and compassion, that isdamaging a whole lot just to
serve a small number of peoplewho may ultimately need these
interventions.
And you don't just go in.
If you knew that, out of every100 kids, x amount of them were
going to develop a certaincancer, would you cut off the
(48:51):
bits of all of them just in casebecause you know that one of
them might end up with a cancer?
No, we don't do that.
Well, this is the same thing.
What we're saying is that maybeone of these children might end
up being someone who would havepreferred to have transitioned
when they were younger and washappy if they've transitioned,
and blah, blah, blah, which iswonderful for that child.
However, what we're saying iswe'll damage a hundred, we'll
(49:13):
damage them all, just in casethat we might save one.
And the way I see it is no, yousave them all and then you deal
, you help the one, rather thantrying to change them all and
tell them all there's somethingyou're not.
And I think it's very confusingto young people when you tell
them, when you lie to them andtelling them that they can
change their sex or that theywere born in the wrong body.
(49:35):
As far as calling thataffirmation now.
Affirmation is teaching themthat they are okay as they are,
that they're beautiful as theyare, the body that they were
born into is the body thatthey're meant to have, and that
they can learn how to be safe inthat body.
And it might take some time andyou can support them with that,
and they might have the therapyfor that, but that it'll be
(49:56):
fine and it'll be wonderful andactually, ultimately, they'll be
really glad they have that bodyand that body will do, you know
, be great for them later andand they'll, you know, be able
to have pleasure from it, youknow, when they're older and and
and just all of the greatthings that you can have from
your human body that we don'twant to interfere with now.
So affirmation to me isactually confirming to the child
(50:16):
that they are in the right body, and I couldn't think of
anything more damaging thanactually saying you were born in
the wrong body and you can onlyever be okay, you can only ever
be happy and have a fulfilledlife and only ever avoid ending
your life.
If you go and get hormones andsurgeries and, and that's, how
(50:38):
is that?
How is that compassionate I?
And that's the thing too.
They've changed all the termsaround, so the terms that they
you know.
They say compassion, butcompassion, that's what
compassion means to them.
To me, that's not compassionate.
And as for being inclusive,again, yes, look what I was
talking about before in regardsto dress how you want, be who
(50:59):
you want, whatever GreatInclusion.
Be who you want, wonderful.
Don't start letting men punchwomen out in the Olympics in the
name of inclusion and call hima woman.
That's not inclusive.
That doesn't include women.
It only includes that man or asmall number of men.
So again, we get the wordinclusion, but inclusion
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actually means we're notincluding women and girls and
we're not looking at women andgirls' safety.
Inclusion also means we're notincluding people who are gay,
because a lot of this ideologyreally damages those people,
because it forces them to havesurgeries and things that they
would have not otherwise had.
They just would have grown upto be gay.
So it's very damaging.
And so inclusion is yeah, it'snot the terminology, that is,
(51:47):
like I said, just all of thewords.
Be aware, any language that'sused is often language that's
been changed, that has adifferent meaning to what
they're saying, and so most ofus want to be caring and want to
be inclusive in some way andwant to be compassionate and
what I'm saying to you in myopinion, compassion actually
(52:09):
comes from acknowledging truthbut also being very caring and
supporting people who are goingthrough these issues and
understanding that it'sespecially challenging because
there's such conflictinginformation and there's so many
medical people who have beensupporting this.
A lot of it has been changingand probably in my next episode,
(52:30):
where I do talk about thisdetransitioner, I'll talk a
little bit about swing back withthis and the CAS report and
evidence that sort of supportswhat I'm saying here as well.
Anyway, my intention is not toharm people and people.
Anyone who says what I'm sayinggets called transphobic.
I'm not afraid of trans people.
I'm just afraid for what mighthappen to children who get
(52:52):
damaged by this ideology, andI'm not anti people being who
they want to be.
I'm just very concerned forpeople's health and mental
health and I think this isbecoming quite a big issue in
the Western world and I thinkthat what we do is we use terms
(53:14):
like you're transphobic and allthe different language that's
used.
A lot of that is used today tostop conversation, and I think
that we need to have.
This is what I say about thispodcast is important
conversations about things thatmatter.
This really matters and it's areally important conversation.
So I think we need to be ableto have the conversation without
(53:34):
fear of being labeled all sortsof things, and if people want
to label me all sorts of things,so be it.
Also, I'll just clarify that Iam always happy to have
discussions about this, but Iwill only engage in good faith
conversations where people arebeing honest and really wanting
to engage in the topic anddiscuss this, as opposed to
(53:56):
people who are just abusive forabuse sake.
Anyone who comes at this froman abusive place not interested
in having a conversation buthaving.
You know I like to haveimportant conversations about
things that matter.
I'm happy to do that, but not Ijust don't engage with people
who just want to be abusive,because that doesn't support or
(54:17):
help anything.
Anyway, I will do anotherepisode following up on some of
the things I've talked about.
Sorry it's been such a longepisode.
This is such a big topic and somuch to cover, but I just feel
like it's like I said.
I've been able to have a muchdeeper dive into this than maybe
a lot of parents have.
I'm not saying all but many,just because you don't have time
(54:38):
, because you've got kids, andthat's fine.
So I just want you tounderstand the sorts of stuff
that's going on that might beaffecting your children, so you
can be a bit more prepared todeal with it.
And you know, if this is justopening up a conversation as
well, that's fine.
I am always happy, I'm open tothings and I want to hear.
If I turn out to be wrong withthings, I will acknowledge that
(55:00):
and I engage with that.
But this is something I havebeen following for a really,
really long time and in thebeginning I was quite supportive
about it all.
But as time went on and moreevidence came through, it became
very clear to me that this ismore damaging than anything this
, this ideology.
And so, uh, if I get provedotherwise, like you know, sure
(55:21):
I'm happy to look at that, butat this stage that's why I feel
so confident to have thisconversation is, uh, all the
evidence is is pointing in thedirection that this is very
damaging ideology and that's whyI think it's really important
to have the discussion and Ithink adults need to be armed
with this information so thatthey can protect children.
Anyway, I will follow up withanother episode, next week most
(55:43):
likely, where I talk about thistransition.
I might even just record itvery soon.
Anyway, please like, subscribeand share and tell other people
about this.
Like I said, I'm trying to haveimportant conversations about
things that matter and I willsee you next week.
Thank you, bye.
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