April 15, 2025 • 44 mins
The negative impact of gender ideology on children is a growing concern for parents, educators, and mental health professionals alike. In this episode of The Wellness Connection, host Fiona Kane dives deep into the complexities surrounding gender ideology and its real-world consequences on youth. Drawing from recent research, expert insights, and lived experiences, Fiona explores how political activism, social influence, and misguided medical practices are affecting vulnerable children.
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Fiona Kane (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the Wellness Connection.
I'm your host, Fiona Kane.
This is a little bit of acontinuation of the last episode
, which was episode 106.
So I would recommend that youprobably don't need to
necessarily watch or listen tothat one first, but I would
recommend you listen to thisepisode and that episode In
(00:21):
combination.
They will make a lot more sensetogether than if you listen to
them separately.
So I'm continuing on mydiscussion in regards to my
concerns around transing ouryouth, transing our children and
the effects on children, andI've gone a lot into why I feel
that way in the last episode, inthis episode I will.
(00:46):
In the last episode, actuallytowards the end of the episode,
when I was talking about thesort of political and societal,
some of the things aroundtransgender activism, I was
actually quoting from AnneHersey Alley.
I was actually quoting fromAnne Hersey Alley and her.
So what I will do in probablyin both of these episodes, I'll
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put a link to her sub stackwhere I got this information
from, and she talks about howlike I was talking last time
about it this being aphilosophical, political and
social betterment activist groupand ideology, and so she sort
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of says here that trans activismis a form of revolution which
lacks the precondition oftypical revolution, which is a
top-down oppression.
So what I was saying last timeis it's sort of it's, it's um,
you have to just uh, thesepeople who are trans are all
identified as being oppressed.
But then, because all of asudden, they've got all these
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oppressed people, you have tofind oppressors, and so then
they make up that there's a,there's oppressors, that there's
people out there trying to holdthem down and all that sort of
stuff.
Um, so she says here that, shesays that it's um, here you go,
top-down oppression.
Instead of dismantling aterrible regime, gender ideology
restlessly locates its enemy inperfectly healthy ideas and
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norms, for instance the ideathat puberty, though difficult,
is a natural and transformativeperiod in a child's life.
Also anathema is the more basicidea that the sexes are
physically different and thatsingle-sex spaces are necessary,
especially for the safety ofwomen.
These permanent truths andubiquitous norms are recast as
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oppressive, giving therevolutionary gender ideologue
his lifeblood permanent andubiquitous sources of outrage.
So that's essentially what it'sdoing.
It's actually.
The enemy is perfectly healthynorms and perfectly healthy
bodies of these young people.
So Aya Ayane, hirsi Ali she goeson to say it champions mental
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illness simply because mentalillness confers victim status.
And she talks about Christ'sbeatitudes.
Sorry, not pronouncing it verywell, but the blessed are the
meek right, so have beenperverted by the desire of
activists to stand with theblessed meek.
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So, for obvious reasons, thisharms those who are already
mentally ill.
Their mental illness is notabetted but encouraged, and even
in depraved and damaging ways,rewarding the cult-like features
of the LGBTQIA2S++ community,which rallies around its most
oppressed members and evencanonizes them.
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There is a myth behind.
There's an annual transgenderday of remembrance and there's a
whole myth behind that and it'snot true.
The story behind it is not true, and this is my words, not hers
.
But then she says and thenthere's an ongoing and the story
that there's an ongoinggenocide which I talked about
before, an ongoing genocideagainst trans people.
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That demonstrates it right.
So they have a transgender dayof remembrance.
I would understand if you thiswas a day of like.
I know there's a history ofsome terrible violence against
gay people, but that's not whatthis is.
This is a very different thing.
This is a made-up thing.
So I'm not saying that no onewho's trans has ever been hurt
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or anything like that, but theway that this is written, you
would think that many, manythousands of people are being
destroyed and decimated andthere's a genocide happening on
the streets, kind of thing.
So it's clear that transactivists flourish in conditions
of self-converted victimhood.
They often adopt their ownmarkers of uniqueness in the
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form of non-binary pronounswhich exist independently of
gender dysphoria.
This provides them withbristling revolutionary spirit
without exposing them to anyreal danger, since the
transitioners who criticizemisguided gender affirming
therapies are exiled by thecommunities which once embraced
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them, and that is what happens.
So these young people, whenthey go online trying to explore
what their problems are andthey're usually having some sort
of mental health problems theydescribe their problems and they
get fed this sort of answerthat says oh okay, clearly
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you're trans.
Obviously, there's no otheranswer.
The answer is that you're transor non-binary or something, and
so the answer to all of theirproblems is that they're trans.
And so these children areaccepted by the trans community
and young adults and the transcommunity they love, bomb them,
they give them all the supportand we love you and don't care
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about your parents.
They're horrible, terriblepeople, but we love you, we care
about you.
You're one of us, we're goingto protect you, blah, blah, blah
, blah blah.
But the moment that any of thesechildren start saying you know
what?
I think maybe I'm not trans, Ithink it was a mistake.
It's quite the opposite.
Not only do they shut them out,but they try and destroy them.
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It's like trying to leaveScientology or something right.
Leave Scientology or somethingright.
It is a cult, because once youdecide to leave, you are not
just kicked out.
So if you think of thesechildren especially, a lot of
them are people with mentalhealth issues right, and they
might be quite isolated andthat's the reason they got
involved in this stuff in thefirst place and they finally
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felt somewhere where theybelonged and finally had support
.
And then they realize thatmaybe they're not trans and they
don't really want to do thesurgeries or the hormones or
whatever it is.
And as soon as they say that,they get kicked out of the tribe
.
Not only kicked out of thetribe, but they try and destroy
them and you can imagine why youwould not want to say that you
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have changed your mind and whyyou would almost and some people
do go along with the treatmentsand things just to stay in the
tribe.
There was actually a case now Ican't remember his name, but it
was a boy who was told he wastransgender and he was on the
Heretics podcast just in thelast few months, but I can't
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think of his name and he saidthat he was a drug addict and he
had been through all sorts ofterrible abuse and he was having
therapy, but he was havingtherapy in the.
It was therapy for trans people.
It was a special type oftherapy that was a therapy that
was free and available to peoplewho were trans.
And when he finally went in andsaid, look, you know what?
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I don't think I'm trans, theysaid, well then, you can't have
therapy anymore.
And they were just going to cuthim loose, right, and he was in
a really precarious position.
He was on drugs and he'd beenthrough all this trauma and all
this abuse, and so he stayed andjust kept saying he was trans
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and ultimately ended up havinghis genitals removed, um, in the
name of this, because it wasthe only way he could get
therapy.
I mean, goodness me, like that'sjust.
Goodness me is not the wordsI'm thinking, but they're the
words.
That, right, that's, that'sjust, that is just dreadful.
That's why I worry about thesechildren and he said he
regretted the surgery straightaway, immediately.
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He regretted it because hedidn't want to have it in the
first place.
He knew he wasn't trans, but hejust needed that psychological
support and so being cut off forthese young people, if they
finally do get includedsomewhere and helped somewhere
and supported somewhere, theworst thing they can do is come
out and say, oh look, I'vechanged my mind.
And it's a really importantpart of this is you must be
allowed to say I've changed mymind because most of them do, or
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many of them do, I don't know,I don't have the numbers in
front of me, but it's verycommon.
So here Ayaan says yeah, soteenage.
The grim reality is teenagegirls accessing hormone
replacement therapy, which makestheir bones brittle, their
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vaginas atrophy, which is damageand waste away, and their
hairlines recede, remainsuncomfortably far from the view
of the average dutiful Marchattending activist.
They don't see that girl right.
And, despite the errors I'vejust described, gender ideology
has been undeniably successfulin its self-replication.
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This is because the majority ofpeople want to be on the right
side of history.
This is all this right side ofhistory stuff we hear, right, um
, and so we, and we have thisdesire.
We just have this desire to dothe right thing, which is I was
talking about compassion beforewe really have the desire to do
the right thing, which is why Ibelieve many of the people that
I would know who are acting likeactivists, who are activists
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that they are well-intentioned.
I feel like they're justmisinformed, but they are
well-intentioned.
So they recruit normal peoplewho wish to virtue signal but
have no experience in dealingwith vulnerable, gender-confused
children, and it's how itcaptures institutions and
workplaces and that sort ofthing.
Then she also goes on to saythat you know, what the
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well-meaning masses will come torealize sooner rather than
later, I believe, is that genderideology is in fact, regressive
.
Most obviously, it confusesfeminine qualities in men for
evidence that they are too realwomen, and this leads to the
encroachment of men upon women'sspaces, which societies view
womanhood as a cluster of rigidfemale stereotypes and,
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ultimately, male supremacistworldview.
A certain organized religioncomes to mind.
If you read Anne Ali's history,you'll know about that.
She's originally from Somalia.
I won't go into that detail,it's a whole other topic, but
you can read her sub-stat andread about her.
Gay men tend to manifest morefeminine characteristics and
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thus make up a highly visiblechunk of trans women, which is
cheered on by activists in spiteof the abject horrors and
permanently damaging, evenlife-shortening, effects of what
they call bottom surgery.
They like to use theseeuphemistic terms, which
increase the numbers of gay men,solicit, numbers of gay men
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solicit.
And she goes on to say in whichregimes are gay men refashioned
into straight women?
So she explains that it happens.
One of the biggest countriesthat do these kinds of surgeries
is a place like Iran, andreason being is it's not
acceptable to be gay there.
So, essentially, if they cutyour bits off and call you a
woman, you can still be gay,right, but you're not really gay
.
You get what I'm trying to say.
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So they were talking about gayconversions.
I would call that gayconversion, right?
Is you have to cut off yourbits to be a homosexual?
How, oh my God.
Anyway, that's what's happeningin Iran at the moment for that
reason.
So they're doing the same thing, but they're just doing it for
different reasons.
So she says, encouraging theview that gay men are, or should
be, women is kind of a progress, but a dystopian kind of
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progress.
So let people just be who theyare.
It's fine.
Now, okay.
So she talks about the CASTreview here I spoke about last
time and what they've come upwith.
They did a comprehensive reportand it's finding that dozens of
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studies, which WPATH who I toldyou they were the influential,
well, professional organizationfor transgender health, who are
really a whole bunch ofactivists, but they use all this
terminology to justifymedicalizing children.
Well, these studies do not showthat medical interventions for
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trans-identifying youth are safeor that the rate of regret is
low, despite WPAS claims to theopposite.
These small, poorly executed,ideologically driven studies
were latched onto by activistswho desperately needed to
display their enlightenedcredentials.
And now she's saying here yeah,I'll keep going, just going
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down further, because I don'twant to read every single word
of this, anyway.
So then she goes on to say thatyou know what WPATH did.
Is they all that these peopledid?
Is they rushed to endorseunethical, faulty studies to
justify catastrophic healthcareadvice?
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The Cass Review is a watershedmoment.
The Cass Review came out abouta year ago I think it was around
March 2024, and it shows thismedicalising children as the
scandal that it is.
Now what they've done is in.
I'll just go further down herebecause I did have a list of
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what it was, because I did haveit listed what it was.
So, yeah, the CAST review is DrHilary CAST.
She published a 400-page reporton gender identity services for
children and young people.
It was commissioned by theNational Health Service in
England and she came up with 32specific recommendations around
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this.
Now what she said is she saidthat there's a couple of things
here.
She said that, let me just findit, just looking for it.
Okay.
So she looked at 237 papersfrom 18 countries providing
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information on a total of 113269 children and adolescents.
And, uh, and she, it's thelargest, most comprehensive
study to date, um, and althoughthe activists all try and tell
you that it's been debunked, ithasn't they just need to believe
that?
So, and what she found is, shefound let me just find it here.
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Okay, so she said there's nosimple explanation to increased
numbers of predominantly youngpeople and young adults who have
a trans or gender diverseidentity.
She said that some conflictingviews about a clinical approach
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there needs to be.
An appraisal of internationalguidelines for care and
treatment of children and youngpeople with gender incongruence
found that there's no singleguideline that could be applied
in its entirety to the NHSEngland.
While considerable amount ofresearch has been published in
this field, systematic evidencereviews demonstrated the poor
quality of the published studies, meaning there is not reliable
evidence based upon which makeclinical decisions for children
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or their families to makeinformed choices.
And then she's saying here thatyeah, she said.
The rationale for early pubertysuppression remains unclear,
with weak evidence regarding theimpact of gender dysphoria,
mental or psychological health.
The effect on cognitive andpsychosexual development remains
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unknown.
The use of masculizing orfeminine hormones for those
under the 18 presents manyunknowns, despite longstanding
use in transgender population.
The lack of long-term follow-upor data commencing treatment at
earlier age means there'sinadequate information.
So basically she's saying wedon't know the risks.
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She went on to say that like Iwon't go in here and just read
every little bit of it.
But she went on to essentiallysay that what we do know is that
it's not reducing things likethe end of life stuff I was
talking about in the lastepisode, and that there's just
the evidence that they've usedis so flimsy that it's
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ridiculous.
So essentially he gazed againstgroomers.
What they said about it isBritish professionals have
confirmed that children, mostlygirls, are being recklessly
subjected to dangerouscastration experiments with no
robust long-term data treatment,treating them like lab rats.
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And the detransitioners, most ofwhich were just same-sex
oriented teenagers, the victimsof this catastrophic
neo-conversion therapy.
They are being left unsupportedand ignored.
Gender affirming care is a lie.
It's not healthcare, it's asafety hazard with no regard for
the lifelong devastation itcreates.
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So what's happened in Englandis they've actually stopped
funding gender affirming carefor children, and it's also
they've stopped it in a lot ofother places, like in a lot of
Northern countries, I think,like Norway and Sweden and
Finland and places like that.
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They were quite early adoptersof some of this stuff and
they're kind of they're sayingthe wrong way, go back.
And so it's happening allaround the place and which is
also why now in the US they'reputting a hold on it as well.
So a lot of people and in partsof Australia, right now in
Queensland, they're putting ahold to it and it shouldn't just
be a hold, it should be a stop,but at least a hold is a good
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start.
But yeah, there's just nolong-term studies that this is
helpful and a lot of informationthat it is harmful.
Now I just want to go over totalk a little bit more about a
detransitioner.
Her name is Laura Becker andshe's talking about the
psychology of detransition andin that she talks about
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transition and detransition, butshe also talks about her
motivations for, like, what wasgoing, the reasons why people
might become trans.
I've talked about some of thatbefore but I'll talk about it a
little bit more.
So anyway, she's got this greatdefinition I agree with, and
she said it's the act,transition is the act of coping
with psychological discomfortabout being male or female
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through body modifications likehormones and surgery to
aesthetically mimic and sociallybe treated as the opposite sex.
And then she said genderdysphoria is the psychological
distress a man or woman feelswhen they are unhappy about
their biological sex and ortheir sex role.
Two components the physical,sex dysphoria and the social,
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cultural dysphoria, socialdysphoria.
So she said, underlyingmotivations for someone making
these changes one is to feelbetter about their bodies, two
is to be treated better byothers and three is to like
themselves better.
And then she said the fantasyis and this is what I was
talking about before I thinkmight have been the last episode
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, but the fantasy is my body isthe problem, and so I've just
got to get away from my body.
If I can just not have thisbody, I'll be okay.
So all discomfort is blamed onthe body, all interpersonal
struggles is blamed on the body,all interpersonal struggles are
blamed on the body, allself-loathing is blamed on the
body.
And so you can see why they sodesperate to get these services,
which is why it's so hard forparents and health practitioners
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dealing with this, becausethese children are very definite
that they want to get this done, and the reason they are very
definite about it is they havebeen told that the solution is
their body.
If they get rid of the body,everything will be fine.
So when detransition, she says,her definition is when someone
who identified as transgendergot medical treatment, including
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hormones and or surgery.
Detransition, she says, is whenthey accept and return to
living as their biological sex.
Desistance is when someone whoidentified as a transgender
psychologically and socially,but who never got the medical
treatment, accepts and returnsto living as their biological
sex.
Now she said that thetransition fantasy was that the
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biological sex causes alldiscomfort.
Therefore, modifying it willhelp me feel better about myself
and I'll be treated better.
So the person beginsdetransition regardless of
surgical or social failure orsuccess, when they realize that
there were other issues and itwasn't just about their body.
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So when they understand thattheir transition didn't solve
their underlying problems andthis is why it doesn't reduce
their risk of the self-harm Iwas talking about before, the
end-of-life self-harm sort of 12months after transition they go
back to the same risk they hadbefore, because that's when they
realize that the changing theirbody didn't fix things, and
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because it doesn't fix thingsbecause more often than not,
this problem is not about theirbody, we're not about being in
the wrong body.
So they realize that transitionwasn't a panacea for
self-improvement.
And so this is when the griefprocess begins for these people.
And so essentially, essentially, they go through all the
emotions of grief, they gothrough denial and they go
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through anger, and they so theymight start saying, oh, I don't
regret it and, um, you know,transition saved my life and all
this kind of stuff.
But, uh, and then they starthaving anger and they get angry
at the doctors who did this tothem and and how did I let
myself do this and how did Iagree to it?
And then they start goingthrough, like she said, the
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bargaining, which is all of theif-only scenarios.
If only I had a better surgeon,or I didn't want kids anyway,
so it doesn't matter that Ican't have kids.
They have all this kind ofdiscussion and then they go into
a depression.
So she said a sadness anddespair, hopelessness and this
where they start feeling at theend of life, uh, thinking comes
about, um, numbness,disassociation, I have nothing
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to live for, there's no futurefor me.
I was stupid enough to ruin mylife, I deserve the pain.
And so she said, it's this whole, like this whole spiral, um,
and eventually they come toacceptance, where they can no
longer, they're no longer inshock or denial, they make sense
of their loss, they startmaking plans for the future and
um, and they start believing youknow, I am the woman or man
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that I always was and I mustfind a way to safely stop the
hormones, and what happened waswrong, but I'm still alive and I
can heal.
And so she said, detransitingis a healing cycle of life death
and rebirth, and um, so thenshe she talked about, um, you
know the reasons that peopledetransition, but also the
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reasons that they transition.
So she said that, of course, uh, when people detransition, they
do it because they realize thebody isn't the problem they?
They still have underlyingissues.
Living a lie is exhaustingbecause it is a lie, you really
are the other sex, and that'sactually the thing.
When I was right at thebeginning of the last episode, I
was referring to transsexuals.
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Transsexuals still know thatthey really are a man or
whatever it is, so they don'tbelieve they're a woman.
They're just trying to pass asone and live their life as one
and that's fine and that'swhatever.
They can deserve that dignity.
But they never believed thatthey really were a woman and so
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they acknowledged that they werenot and they didn't try and
encroach on women's rights,whereas these days that's a
different story.
So so she said the living lieis exhausting and she said
avoidance creates and compoundsoriginal problems.
So because they're avoiding theproblem, because the problem
was cause of their body, theproblem's still there, the
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problems are still an issue.
So she started talking about thecommon underlying issues that
people have, the reason thatthey might transition it in
first place, and so she refersto all of these reasons and I
will go through those.
So just have a sip of my tea,sorry.
So she says that the reasonsthey might be doing this are
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bodily trauma.
So maybe if you have a chronicillness, maybe if you have any
kind of body dysmorphia, ifyou've been sexually abused, the
common reasons that people willwant to transition and won't
feel comfortable in their body.
She says attachment, sobasically familial alienation,
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struggles with romance anddating, that kind of thing and
any other kind of abuse orneglect.
So basically, insecureattachment to your family of
origin.
And, interestingly enough, whenthe people, when they do get
caught up in the web of theseactivists, the first thing
they're trying to do is separatefrom their parents.
Your parents don't love you,your parents hate you, your
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parents don't understand, blah,blah, blah.
I understand you, your parentsdon't.
So they actually try andseparate them from their family
and their parents more, whichmakes it obviously worse for
them, which is why it's harderfor them to go back, because by
that stage they've ruined theirrelationships with their family.
So, mental health reasons, othermental health reasons like they
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might have depression oranxiety, really, really common,
any kind of trauma or PTSD, andoften people have things like
OCD.
So then developmental well, whydo they want to make the change
?
Well, puberty or adolescence,it's hard, right.
Like I was just saying before,it can be really, really hard to
make that change and go throughpuberty and suddenly you've got
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all these adult problems andmaybe you just don't want them
and so you want to not deal withbeing a woman or whatever.
It is Peter Pan syndrome, whereyou just want to be a child
forever.
And then there's things likecomplex PTSD.
Then she talks about autism.
So people have sensorydifferences, social emotional
issues or nonconforming behavior.
They often get caught in thisweb and if you know people with
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autism, they can be veryobsessive about things.
So they get very caught on.
If they find out that theanswer to their problem is this,
they're very determined to dothis.
And I can't remember thepercentages, but one time I
looked at the percentage numbersin girls and I think it was
something like 30% of girls whotransition have autism.
So it's actually about theautism, not about something
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wrong with their body.
And then there's a sexualconfusion.
So there might actually be justlesbian or gay or those kinds
of things.
And then there's like, for it'smore for men than anything, but
they're also with men.
There are things likeparaphilias.
I won't go into that herebecause this point of this is to
talk about children and that'snot really a relevant
conversation here.
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So you know, essentially thesepeople have all these underlying
issues and they're the issuesthat need to be treated.
And they're the issues thatneed to be treated and they're
the issues that the psychologistneeds to go through with them.
And that is not gay conversiontherapy, or conversion therapy
as I like to call it.
That's actually just exploringwhy someone might be having an
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issue right and doing itrespectfully and kindly.
And she sort of said that youknow, how do you support someone
who wants to detransition, uh?
And so she just said, uh, youknow, most of the issues that
they're having are not specificto people during transitioning.
Uh, they are issues around, uh,feeling betrayed and and grief,
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and they're very commonfeelings for people for all
different reasons.
So she said you don't need toreinvent the wheel to heal A
detransition is similar to otherforms of complex grief, and so
there are many resources forgrief and trauma.
So go to those resources.
You know a lot of people.
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Pain is an existential thingthat all humans feel at
different times.
Unfortunately, the trust inhealing professionals has been
betrayed and there's traumaoften around that.
And then most resources don'thave detransition competency.
I would say check out Genspect.
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Genspect have some really greatresources around all of these
issues and I will put the linkin this episode.
But I've been referring to thisdetransition information of
Laura Becker and she's got abook coming out called Surviving
the Trans Myth and she's gotlaurabeckerorg as her website.
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Laura L-A-U-R-A, becker,b-e-c-k-e-r.
So this is her.
I've been reading from what shepresented at a recent Genspect
conference.
So it's important to rememberthat the reason people
transition is usually gotnothing to do with the fact that
they really are trans andeverything to do with a whole
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bunch of other issues.
So it's important to helppeople with those other issues.
It's important to keepcommunication open with your
child because, um, you know theythey're getting told to, um, to
that you don't care and thatyou don't understand and
everything, and so you can becaring and compassionate.
But being caring andcompassionate doesn't
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necessarily mean that you acceptthat they are the opposite sex.
Uh, there is anotherdetransitioner.
Her name is maya poet and ittook her about 10 years, but she
was really glad that herparents never accepted that she
like they loved her and theycared about her and they looked
after her, but they neveraccepted that she was the other
sex.
She said she was really gladfor that because you need people
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who tell you the truth, and sothat was kind of really
important for her.
But it's really reallychallenging with these children
because they get there's a lotof activists who try and tear
them away from their family iftheir family want to believe
that they really are the girlthat they were born as or
whatever it is.
So, look, I suppose I want tofinish by just saying, look, the
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reason that children go throughthis experience, or the reason
that young adults go throughthis, is complicated.
There's politics involved,there's a lot to do with trauma
and sexual trauma and thingslike that, and when you look at
a lot of the young movie starsand people who are doing some of
these surgeries and things, youwill see if you read about them
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.
A lot of these people have hadsexual trauma.
So they're essentially gettingthe bits cut off that you know
that were touched in, a violentcut off, that you know that were
touched in a violent or bad wayyou know.
So this is a really complicatedissue and it's not being
transphobic or being awful to bequestioning of this.
It really is a cult and childrenare being damaged by this cult
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and this group, wpath, who tryto pretend that they're a
professional organization.
They are not.
They are full of uh, they arefull of activists and in their
most recent, they do createsomething.
It's a bit like the dsm, butit's like their version of trans
health care that they produce.
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The most recent version thatthey produce has a new category
and the new category is eunuch.
And when you go into thedocument and read the chapter
about eunuch, which is basicallypeople with their private bits
cut off, when you go into thischapter, you will see that when
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they link to their references,their references are chat rooms
for men who enjoy eunuchs.
Their references are notmedical references, right, and
it's important to understandthat one of the people who first
started, the person who firststarted using kind of the word
gender in terms of genderidentity in this language that I
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referred to in the last episode, I think it was actually John
Money, who was a psychologistwho did some very damaging and
horrific experiments on childrenand was not a very good person.
So, unfortunately, a lot of this, without going into a lot of
detail, a lot of gender ideology.
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It's got its basis and itsbackground in people who have
very, very bad ulterior motivesfor your children.
Let me just say that much allright.
So what has?
But what's happened is peoplehave been pressured into.
You know you are not a kind orcompassionate or modern, caring,
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progressive person if you don'tjust kind of, you know, affirm
that all these children reallyare born in the wrong body.
No, they're not all born in thewrong body.
That is ridiculous and we, alot of people who are kind and
warm-hearted andwell-intentioned, have been
caught up in this.
And the unfortunate thing isthat the people who will
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probably be the last for one ofthe term, the last man standing
in this fight, will actually bethe mothers who have trans to
their children.
Because the idea, as a mother,if you've supported your child,
to have top surgery, which is adouble mastectomy, or bottom
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surgery, which is genitalsremoved, inverted, changed
whatever to look like the other,If you've done this to your
child and your child is nowpermanently damaged, you can't
acknowledge that, becauseacknowledging that you did that
as a mother probably is one ofthe most painful, horrible
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things that you could do.
So, instead of acknowledgingthat, they actually have to
stick with the belief of thecult, basically, and so they
have to stay with the ideologyand stay in the activism, and
that's why you see a lot ofthose Hollywood type mothers who
have done this to theirchildren are the biggest
activists.
The reason being is thatthey're just going to keep out
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there on the campaign andtalking about trans genocide and
talking about saving children,and all this because they're
actually the ones that havedamaged the children, so that
the biggest ones shouting andyelling at other people who are
harming their children, whenunfortunately they're the ones
that have allowed it, which isreally sad, but they are the
ones that will fight to the end.
And also, just in regards tothe surgeries and the
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gender-affirming care, thepuberty blockers.
I talked about them a bit inthe last episode and I'll just
mention it again and sorry to beso graphic, but this is like
I've got to tell the truth andthe truth is this is graphic If
I use the language that theusers say.
They use language like topsurgery and bottom surgery and
gender affirming care and whatdo they call it health care?
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And all this instead of sayingwhat things really are and
unfortunately this you reallyneed to know what things really
are.
But for boys being put onpuberty blockers one of the
issues that's really importantto know.
So puberty blockers they usethe same medication that they
use to chemically castratepedophiles, right?
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So that's the medicationthey're using.
Now, what happens is, if youput these boys on this
medication before they gothrough puberty is the penis
does not grow.
It's just this little tinypenis and it never grows.
Right, now that ends up being aproblem, regardless of the
choice of this boy, right?
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Because if the boy realizeshe's a boy and wants to stay a
boy, there's an obvious issuethere that he's never grown a
man-sized penis, right?
If he does eventually decide hewants to transition and he wants
to have the surgery to not thathe can become a girl, but to
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imitate what it might look liketo be a girl, to be a girl, they
use the tissue from that penisto create this inverted hole,
and if it hasn't grown, theydon't have the tissue to use.
And because they don't haveenough tissue to use, they start
using things like the bowellining and lining of other
places within the abdominalabdominal cavity.
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And there is an issue now withyoung men dying from those
surgeries and having some reallyhorrific side effects in
regards to the type of tissuethat's being used to make this
neo-vagina, as they call it.
So please understand that whenyou drill down into this and you
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really look at what they'redoing to the children, what the
outcomes are for the childrenand knowing that there really is
not the studies to confirm thatany of this is safe and any of
this is saving them and helpingthem, and most of them have
other issues that are behindthis and they don't need and
shouldn't have any of theseinterferences and surgeries.
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Honestly, the best thing youcan do, the most affirming thing
you can do to a child, isconfirm that they are in the
right body and that they will beokay and they'll eventually
love and enjoy being in thatbody.
And they just need to gothrough puberty and you can
support them through it.
But, honestly, if theyunderstand that puberty is going
to solve their problem, they'retold the opposite.
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They're told that if you gothrough puberty, it's going to
be so much harder for you tochange and be who you really are
.
And who they really are is theperson going through that
puberty as that sex.
So what we do is support themto just go with nature and how
they really are, and that worksout for 85 to 90, I think 95
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plus percent is closer to 98,99% of children, which is
wonderful.
And for that small, very, verysmall percentage of people who
that doesn't work for, it'sreally unfortunate and I really
feel for them and I really hopethey get all of the support that
they need.
But we cannot interfere withall of the children and cause
these long-term terrible healthoutcomes mental and physical
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health outcomes for all of thechildren, for the very small
percentage of children who dohave this issue.
It's got to go back to beingsomething that we address with
the people who need it and notsomething we do to all of the
children or many of the children.
The other issue is that you know, in my opinion, if we, you know
, children are allowed to havechildhood, let them have
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childhood.
They do not need to besexualized in childhood Children
.
They've got all these thingslike the gender bread man and
all this sort of stuff that theyteach children.
They're teaching them genderideology when they're two, three
, four, five years old.
They don't need any of thatright.
And why do you think there'speople on television saying, oh,
my child knew it was a boy,shut up.
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No, let your child just be, andit doesn't matter how they can
dress how they want, and theycan play with Barbbies or not,
play with barbies or all of that, it doesn't matter.
That's what's like it's.
This is so regressive.
It's so regressive because, asthere's there's there's gender,
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these gendered roles that werejected for so long, the whole
point of this ideology is to godrill right back into those
roles again.
Why can't you know?
Boys can just be who they wantto be.
Girls can be who they want tobe.
There's not one right way.
This is what Bill Ball Chrissays.
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There's not one right way ofbeing a boy.
There's not one right way ofbeing a girl.
Be how you want to be, and youcan do that without surgeries
and hormones and pubic blockersand all of that interference.
You can also do that withoutsomeone giving you the idea that
maybe you could have been bornin the wrong body, maybe that
doctor made a mistake.
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Instead of they're told thatdoctors assign them their sex,
they don't assign them, theyobserve it.
They're told that they assignyour sex and hey look, you could
maybe be 85 other things.
How confusing for a child.
Let them be, let them gothrough childhood, let them go
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through puberty and that solvesmost issues and give them the
support they need for whateverthe issues are, whatever the
mental health issues that theyhave, whatever it is that's
driving these issues.
Give them the support for that,but don't feed them all of this
gender ideology which is justconfusing them and damaging them
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and harming them in so manyways.
Anyway, I will leave it at that.
I'll put some links in the bioin regards to the things I
talked about.
And, yeah, look, I really wishthe best for young children and
for people going through genderdysphoria.
It must be a terrible, terriblething to go through and the
people I've known who've gonethrough it have found it very,
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very distressing for themselvesand their families.
However, we cannot be in denialabout the truth of this and we
must support these children, notdamage them further, and this
ideology is damaging thechildren.
Anyway, again, please like,subscribe and share and tell
other people about this podcast.
I'm always happy to engage indiscussion on these things as
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long as they are in good faith.
I do not engage in abusivediscussions.
So if you want to do that, goaway, because I'm not interested
and I will not engage, but ifyou want to have good faith
discussion I'm all about that,that's the whole point of my
podcast is importantconversations about things that
matter, and I think this is avery important conversation and
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this really does matter.
So we need to be able to talkabout it and to be able to talk
things through and get thingsright.
We need to be prepared to beable to talk and maybe sometimes
be wrong about some things, butwe need to have the discussion.
If we don't have the discussion, we can't resolve this issue,
and what we do at the momentthese days is shut down all
discussions on difficult topicsand say, no, this is the rules,
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we follow this ideology andwe're not allowed to discuss it.
That is dangerous, no matterwhat topic you're talking about.
Anyway, I hope you have a greatweek and I'm sorry to be this.
Last couple of episodes havebeen quite heavy but doomsday,
but I really.
This is a very important issuethat I've been seeing, uh, for a
long time and I really wantedyou to um understand what was
going on, because you may nothave heard some of the things
(43:44):
that I have discussed in theselast two episodes.
Anyway, uh, thank you forwatching and listening and I
will see you next week.
Thank you, bye.
Hello and welcome to the Wellness Connection.
I'm your host, Fiona Kane.
This is a little bit of acontinuation of the last episode
, which was episode 106.
So I would recommend that youprobably don't need to
necessarily watch or listen tothat one first, but I would
recommend you listen to thisepisode and that episode In
(00:21):
combination.
They will make a lot more sensetogether than if you listen to
them separately.
So I'm continuing on mydiscussion in regards to my
concerns around transing ouryouth, transing our children and
the effects on children, andI've gone a lot into why I feel
that way in the last episode, inthis episode I will.
(00:46):
In the last episode, actuallytowards the end of the episode,
when I was talking about thesort of political and societal,
some of the things aroundtransgender activism, I was
actually quoting from AnneHersey Alley.
I was actually quoting fromAnne Hersey Alley and her.
So what I will do in probablyin both of these episodes, I'll
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put a link to her sub stackwhere I got this information
from, and she talks about howlike I was talking last time
about it this being aphilosophical, political and
social betterment activist groupand ideology, and so she sort
(01:29):
of says here that trans activismis a form of revolution which
lacks the precondition oftypical revolution, which is a
top-down oppression.
So what I was saying last timeis it's sort of it's, it's um,
you have to just uh, thesepeople who are trans are all
identified as being oppressed.
But then, because all of asudden, they've got all these
(01:50):
oppressed people, you have tofind oppressors, and so then
they make up that there's a,there's oppressors, that there's
people out there trying to holdthem down and all that sort of
stuff.
Um, so she says here that, shesays that it's um, here you go,
top-down oppression.
Instead of dismantling aterrible regime, gender ideology
restlessly locates its enemy inperfectly healthy ideas and
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norms, for instance the ideathat puberty, though difficult,
is a natural and transformativeperiod in a child's life.
Also anathema is the more basicidea that the sexes are
physically different and thatsingle-sex spaces are necessary,
especially for the safety ofwomen.
These permanent truths andubiquitous norms are recast as
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oppressive, giving therevolutionary gender ideologue
his lifeblood permanent andubiquitous sources of outrage.
So that's essentially what it'sdoing.
It's actually.
The enemy is perfectly healthynorms and perfectly healthy
bodies of these young people.
So Aya Ayane, hirsi Ali she goeson to say it champions mental
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illness simply because mentalillness confers victim status.
And she talks about Christ'sbeatitudes.
Sorry, not pronouncing it verywell, but the blessed are the
meek right, so have beenperverted by the desire of
activists to stand with theblessed meek.
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So, for obvious reasons, thisharms those who are already
mentally ill.
Their mental illness is notabetted but encouraged, and even
in depraved and damaging ways,rewarding the cult-like features
of the LGBTQIA2S++ community,which rallies around its most
oppressed members and evencanonizes them.
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There is a myth behind.
There's an annual transgenderday of remembrance and there's a
whole myth behind that and it'snot true.
The story behind it is not true, and this is my words, not hers
.
But then she says and thenthere's an ongoing and the story
that there's an ongoinggenocide which I talked about
before, an ongoing genocideagainst trans people.
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That demonstrates it right.
So they have a transgender dayof remembrance.
I would understand if you thiswas a day of like.
I know there's a history ofsome terrible violence against
gay people, but that's not whatthis is.
This is a very different thing.
This is a made-up thing.
So I'm not saying that no onewho's trans has ever been hurt
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or anything like that, but theway that this is written, you
would think that many, manythousands of people are being
destroyed and decimated andthere's a genocide happening on
the streets, kind of thing.
So it's clear that transactivists flourish in conditions
of self-converted victimhood.
They often adopt their ownmarkers of uniqueness in the
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form of non-binary pronounswhich exist independently of
gender dysphoria.
This provides them withbristling revolutionary spirit
without exposing them to anyreal danger, since the
transitioners who criticizemisguided gender affirming
therapies are exiled by thecommunities which once embraced
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them, and that is what happens.
So these young people, whenthey go online trying to explore
what their problems are andthey're usually having some sort
of mental health problems theydescribe their problems and they
get fed this sort of answerthat says oh okay, clearly
(05:34):
you're trans.
Obviously, there's no otheranswer.
The answer is that you're transor non-binary or something, and
so the answer to all of theirproblems is that they're trans.
And so these children areaccepted by the trans community
and young adults and the transcommunity they love, bomb them,
they give them all the supportand we love you and don't care
(05:56):
about your parents.
They're horrible, terriblepeople, but we love you, we care
about you.
You're one of us, we're goingto protect you, blah, blah, blah
, blah blah.
But the moment that any of thesechildren start saying you know
what?
I think maybe I'm not trans, Ithink it was a mistake.
It's quite the opposite.
Not only do they shut them out,but they try and destroy them.
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It's like trying to leaveScientology or something right.
Leave Scientology or somethingright.
It is a cult, because once youdecide to leave, you are not
just kicked out.
So if you think of thesechildren especially, a lot of
them are people with mentalhealth issues right, and they
might be quite isolated andthat's the reason they got
involved in this stuff in thefirst place and they finally
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felt somewhere where theybelonged and finally had support
.
And then they realize thatmaybe they're not trans and they
don't really want to do thesurgeries or the hormones or
whatever it is.
And as soon as they say that,they get kicked out of the tribe
.
Not only kicked out of thetribe, but they try and destroy
them and you can imagine why youwould not want to say that you
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have changed your mind and whyyou would almost and some people
do go along with the treatmentsand things just to stay in the
tribe.
There was actually a case now Ican't remember his name, but it
was a boy who was told he wastransgender and he was on the
Heretics podcast just in thelast few months, but I can't
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think of his name and he saidthat he was a drug addict and he
had been through all sorts ofterrible abuse and he was having
therapy, but he was havingtherapy in the.
It was therapy for trans people.
It was a special type oftherapy that was a therapy that
was free and available to peoplewho were trans.
And when he finally went in andsaid, look, you know what?
(07:44):
I don't think I'm trans, theysaid, well then, you can't have
therapy anymore.
And they were just going to cuthim loose, right, and he was in
a really precarious position.
He was on drugs and he'd beenthrough all this trauma and all
this abuse, and so he stayed andjust kept saying he was trans
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and ultimately ended up havinghis genitals removed, um, in the
name of this, because it wasthe only way he could get
therapy.
I mean, goodness me, like that'sjust.
Goodness me is not the wordsI'm thinking, but they're the
words.
That, right, that's, that'sjust, that is just dreadful.
That's why I worry about thesechildren and he said he
regretted the surgery straightaway, immediately.
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He regretted it because hedidn't want to have it in the
first place.
He knew he wasn't trans, but hejust needed that psychological
support and so being cut off forthese young people, if they
finally do get includedsomewhere and helped somewhere
and supported somewhere, theworst thing they can do is come
out and say, oh look, I'vechanged my mind.
And it's a really importantpart of this is you must be
allowed to say I've changed mymind because most of them do, or
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many of them do, I don't know,I don't have the numbers in
front of me, but it's verycommon.
So here Ayaan says yeah, soteenage.
The grim reality is teenagegirls accessing hormone
replacement therapy, which makestheir bones brittle, their
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vaginas atrophy, which is damageand waste away, and their
hairlines recede, remainsuncomfortably far from the view
of the average dutiful Marchattending activist.
They don't see that girl right.
And, despite the errors I'vejust described, gender ideology
has been undeniably successfulin its self-replication.
(09:27):
This is because the majority ofpeople want to be on the right
side of history.
This is all this right side ofhistory stuff we hear, right, um
, and so we, and we have thisdesire.
We just have this desire to dothe right thing, which is I was
talking about compassion beforewe really have the desire to do
the right thing, which is why Ibelieve many of the people that
I would know who are acting likeactivists, who are activists
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that they are well-intentioned.
I feel like they're justmisinformed, but they are
well-intentioned.
So they recruit normal peoplewho wish to virtue signal but
have no experience in dealingwith vulnerable, gender-confused
children, and it's how itcaptures institutions and
workplaces and that sort ofthing.
Then she also goes on to saythat you know, what the
(10:18):
well-meaning masses will come torealize sooner rather than
later, I believe, is that genderideology is in fact, regressive
.
Most obviously, it confusesfeminine qualities in men for
evidence that they are too realwomen, and this leads to the
encroachment of men upon women'sspaces, which societies view
womanhood as a cluster of rigidfemale stereotypes and,
(10:41):
ultimately, male supremacistworldview.
A certain organized religioncomes to mind.
If you read Anne Ali's history,you'll know about that.
She's originally from Somalia.
I won't go into that detail,it's a whole other topic, but
you can read her sub-stat andread about her.
Gay men tend to manifest morefeminine characteristics and
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thus make up a highly visiblechunk of trans women, which is
cheered on by activists in spiteof the abject horrors and
permanently damaging, evenlife-shortening, effects of what
they call bottom surgery.
They like to use theseeuphemistic terms, which
increase the numbers of gay men,solicit, numbers of gay men
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solicit.
And she goes on to say in whichregimes are gay men refashioned
into straight women?
So she explains that it happens.
One of the biggest countriesthat do these kinds of surgeries
is a place like Iran, andreason being is it's not
acceptable to be gay there.
So, essentially, if they cutyour bits off and call you a
woman, you can still be gay,right, but you're not really gay
.
You get what I'm trying to say.
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So they were talking about gayconversions.
I would call that gayconversion, right?
Is you have to cut off yourbits to be a homosexual?
How, oh my God.
Anyway, that's what's happeningin Iran at the moment for that
reason.
So they're doing the same thing, but they're just doing it for
different reasons.
So she says, encouraging theview that gay men are, or should
be, women is kind of a progress, but a dystopian kind of
(12:16):
progress.
So let people just be who theyare.
It's fine.
Now, okay.
So she talks about the CASTreview here I spoke about last
time and what they've come upwith.
They did a comprehensive reportand it's finding that dozens of
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studies, which WPATH who I toldyou they were the influential,
well, professional organizationfor transgender health, who are
really a whole bunch ofactivists, but they use all this
terminology to justifymedicalizing children.
Well, these studies do not showthat medical interventions for
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trans-identifying youth are safeor that the rate of regret is
low, despite WPAS claims to theopposite.
These small, poorly executed,ideologically driven studies
were latched onto by activistswho desperately needed to
display their enlightenedcredentials.
And now she's saying here yeah,I'll keep going, just going
(13:20):
down further, because I don'twant to read every single word
of this, anyway.
So then she goes on to say thatyou know what WPATH did.
Is they all that these peopledid?
Is they rushed to endorseunethical, faulty studies to
justify catastrophic healthcareadvice?
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The Cass Review is a watershedmoment.
The Cass Review came out abouta year ago I think it was around
March 2024, and it shows thismedicalising children as the
scandal that it is.
Now what they've done is in.
I'll just go further down herebecause I did have a list of
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what it was, because I did haveit listed what it was.
So, yeah, the CAST review is DrHilary CAST.
She published a 400-page reporton gender identity services for
children and young people.
It was commissioned by theNational Health Service in
England and she came up with 32specific recommendations around
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this.
Now what she said is she saidthat there's a couple of things
here.
She said that, let me just findit, just looking for it.
Okay.
So she looked at 237 papersfrom 18 countries providing
(14:48):
information on a total of 113269 children and adolescents.
And, uh, and she, it's thelargest, most comprehensive
study to date, um, and althoughthe activists all try and tell
you that it's been debunked, ithasn't they just need to believe
that?
So, and what she found is, shefound let me just find it here.
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Okay, so she said there's nosimple explanation to increased
numbers of predominantly youngpeople and young adults who have
a trans or gender diverseidentity.
She said that some conflictingviews about a clinical approach
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there needs to be.
An appraisal of internationalguidelines for care and
treatment of children and youngpeople with gender incongruence
found that there's no singleguideline that could be applied
in its entirety to the NHSEngland.
While considerable amount ofresearch has been published in
this field, systematic evidencereviews demonstrated the poor
quality of the published studies, meaning there is not reliable
evidence based upon which makeclinical decisions for children
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or their families to makeinformed choices.
And then she's saying here thatyeah, she said.
The rationale for early pubertysuppression remains unclear,
with weak evidence regarding theimpact of gender dysphoria,
mental or psychological health.
The effect on cognitive andpsychosexual development remains
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unknown.
The use of masculizing orfeminine hormones for those
under the 18 presents manyunknowns, despite longstanding
use in transgender population.
The lack of long-term follow-upor data commencing treatment at
earlier age means there'sinadequate information.
So basically she's saying wedon't know the risks.
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She went on to say that like Iwon't go in here and just read
every little bit of it.
But she went on to essentiallysay that what we do know is that
it's not reducing things likethe end of life stuff I was
talking about in the lastepisode, and that there's just
the evidence that they've usedis so flimsy that it's
(17:17):
ridiculous.
So essentially he gazed againstgroomers.
What they said about it isBritish professionals have
confirmed that children, mostlygirls, are being recklessly
subjected to dangerouscastration experiments with no
robust long-term data treatment,treating them like lab rats.
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And the detransitioners, most ofwhich were just same-sex
oriented teenagers, the victimsof this catastrophic
neo-conversion therapy.
They are being left unsupportedand ignored.
Gender affirming care is a lie.
It's not healthcare, it's asafety hazard with no regard for
the lifelong devastation itcreates.
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So what's happened in Englandis they've actually stopped
funding gender affirming carefor children, and it's also
they've stopped it in a lot ofother places, like in a lot of
Northern countries, I think,like Norway and Sweden and
Finland and places like that.
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They were quite early adoptersof some of this stuff and
they're kind of they're sayingthe wrong way, go back.
And so it's happening allaround the place and which is
also why now in the US they'reputting a hold on it as well.
So a lot of people and in partsof Australia, right now in
Queensland, they're putting ahold to it and it shouldn't just
be a hold, it should be a stop,but at least a hold is a good
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start.
But yeah, there's just nolong-term studies that this is
helpful and a lot of informationthat it is harmful.
Now I just want to go over totalk a little bit more about a
detransitioner.
Her name is Laura Becker andshe's talking about the
psychology of detransition andin that she talks about
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transition and detransition, butshe also talks about her
motivations for, like, what wasgoing, the reasons why people
might become trans.
I've talked about some of thatbefore but I'll talk about it a
little bit more.
So anyway, she's got this greatdefinition I agree with, and
she said it's the act,transition is the act of coping
with psychological discomfortabout being male or female
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through body modifications likehormones and surgery to
aesthetically mimic and sociallybe treated as the opposite sex.
And then she said genderdysphoria is the psychological
distress a man or woman feelswhen they are unhappy about
their biological sex and ortheir sex role.
Two components the physical,sex dysphoria and the social,
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cultural dysphoria, socialdysphoria.
So she said, underlyingmotivations for someone making
these changes one is to feelbetter about their bodies, two
is to be treated better byothers and three is to like
themselves better.
And then she said the fantasyis and this is what I was
talking about before I thinkmight have been the last episode
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, but the fantasy is my body isthe problem, and so I've just
got to get away from my body.
If I can just not have thisbody, I'll be okay.
So all discomfort is blamed onthe body, all interpersonal
struggles is blamed on the body,all interpersonal struggles are
blamed on the body, allself-loathing is blamed on the
body.
And so you can see why they sodesperate to get these services,
which is why it's so hard forparents and health practitioners
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dealing with this, becausethese children are very definite
that they want to get this done, and the reason they are very
definite about it is they havebeen told that the solution is
their body.
If they get rid of the body,everything will be fine.
So when detransition, she says,her definition is when someone
who identified as transgendergot medical treatment, including
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hormones and or surgery.
Detransition, she says, is whenthey accept and return to
living as their biological sex.
Desistance is when someone whoidentified as a transgender
psychologically and socially,but who never got the medical
treatment, accepts and returnsto living as their biological
sex.
Now she said that thetransition fantasy was that the
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biological sex causes alldiscomfort.
Therefore, modifying it willhelp me feel better about myself
and I'll be treated better.
So the person beginsdetransition regardless of
surgical or social failure orsuccess, when they realize that
there were other issues and itwasn't just about their body.
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So when they understand thattheir transition didn't solve
their underlying problems andthis is why it doesn't reduce
their risk of the self-harm Iwas talking about before, the
end-of-life self-harm sort of 12months after transition they go
back to the same risk they hadbefore, because that's when they
realize that the changing theirbody didn't fix things, and
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because it doesn't fix thingsbecause more often than not,
this problem is not about theirbody, we're not about being in
the wrong body.
So they realize that transitionwasn't a panacea for
self-improvement.
And so this is when the griefprocess begins for these people.
And so essentially, essentially, they go through all the
emotions of grief, they gothrough denial and they go
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through anger, and they so theymight start saying, oh, I don't
regret it and, um, you know,transition saved my life and all
this kind of stuff.
But, uh, and then they starthaving anger and they get angry
at the doctors who did this tothem and and how did I let
myself do this and how did Iagree to it?
And then they start goingthrough, like she said, the
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bargaining, which is all of theif-only scenarios.
If only I had a better surgeon,or I didn't want kids anyway,
so it doesn't matter that Ican't have kids.
They have all this kind ofdiscussion and then they go into
a depression.
So she said a sadness anddespair, hopelessness and this
where they start feeling at theend of life, uh, thinking comes
about, um, numbness,disassociation, I have nothing
(23:10):
to live for, there's no futurefor me.
I was stupid enough to ruin mylife, I deserve the pain.
And so she said, it's this whole, like this whole spiral, um,
and eventually they come toacceptance, where they can no
longer, they're no longer inshock or denial, they make sense
of their loss, they startmaking plans for the future and
um, and they start believing youknow, I am the woman or man
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that I always was and I mustfind a way to safely stop the
hormones, and what happened waswrong, but I'm still alive and I
can heal.
And so she said, detransitingis a healing cycle of life death
and rebirth, and um, so thenshe she talked about, um, you
know the reasons that peopledetransition, but also the
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reasons that they transition.
So she said that, of course, uh, when people detransition, they
do it because they realize thebody isn't the problem they?
They still have underlyingissues.
Living a lie is exhaustingbecause it is a lie, you really
are the other sex, and that'sactually the thing.
When I was right at thebeginning of the last episode, I
was referring to transsexuals.
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Transsexuals still know thatthey really are a man or
whatever it is, so they don'tbelieve they're a woman.
They're just trying to pass asone and live their life as one
and that's fine and that'swhatever.
They can deserve that dignity.
But they never believed thatthey really were a woman and so
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they acknowledged that they werenot and they didn't try and
encroach on women's rights,whereas these days that's a
different story.
So so she said the living lieis exhausting and she said
avoidance creates and compoundsoriginal problems.
So because they're avoiding theproblem, because the problem
was cause of their body, theproblem's still there, the
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problems are still an issue.
So she started talking about thecommon underlying issues that
people have, the reason thatthey might transition it in
first place, and so she refersto all of these reasons and I
will go through those.
So just have a sip of my tea,sorry.
So she says that the reasonsthey might be doing this are
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bodily trauma.
So maybe if you have a chronicillness, maybe if you have any
kind of body dysmorphia, ifyou've been sexually abused, the
common reasons that people willwant to transition and won't
feel comfortable in their body.
She says attachment, sobasically familial alienation,
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struggles with romance anddating, that kind of thing and
any other kind of abuse orneglect.
So basically, insecureattachment to your family of
origin.
And, interestingly enough, whenthe people, when they do get
caught up in the web of theseactivists, the first thing
they're trying to do is separatefrom their parents.
Your parents don't love you,your parents hate you, your
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parents don't understand, blah,blah, blah.
I understand you, your parentsdon't.
So they actually try andseparate them from their family
and their parents more, whichmakes it obviously worse for
them, which is why it's harderfor them to go back, because by
that stage they've ruined theirrelationships with their family.
So, mental health reasons, othermental health reasons like they
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might have depression oranxiety, really, really common,
any kind of trauma or PTSD, andoften people have things like
OCD.
So then developmental well, whydo they want to make the change
?
Well, puberty or adolescence,it's hard, right.
Like I was just saying before,it can be really, really hard to
make that change and go throughpuberty and suddenly you've got
(26:50):
all these adult problems andmaybe you just don't want them
and so you want to not deal withbeing a woman or whatever.
It is Peter Pan syndrome, whereyou just want to be a child
forever.
And then there's things likecomplex PTSD.
Then she talks about autism.
So people have sensorydifferences, social emotional
issues or nonconforming behavior.
They often get caught in thisweb and if you know people with
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autism, they can be veryobsessive about things.
So they get very caught on.
If they find out that theanswer to their problem is this,
they're very determined to dothis.
And I can't remember thepercentages, but one time I
looked at the percentage numbersin girls and I think it was
something like 30% of girls whotransition have autism.
So it's actually about theautism, not about something
(27:36):
wrong with their body.
And then there's a sexualconfusion.
So there might actually be justlesbian or gay or those kinds
of things.
And then there's like, for it'smore for men than anything, but
they're also with men.
There are things likeparaphilias.
I won't go into that herebecause this point of this is to
talk about children and that'snot really a relevant
conversation here.
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So you know, essentially thesepeople have all these underlying
issues and they're the issuesthat need to be treated.
And they're the issues thatneed to be treated and they're
the issues that the psychologistneeds to go through with them.
And that is not gay conversiontherapy, or conversion therapy
as I like to call it.
That's actually just exploringwhy someone might be having an
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issue right and doing itrespectfully and kindly.
And she sort of said that youknow, how do you support someone
who wants to detransition, uh?
And so she just said, uh, youknow, most of the issues that
they're having are not specificto people during transitioning.
Uh, they are issues around, uh,feeling betrayed and and grief,
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and they're very commonfeelings for people for all
different reasons.
So she said you don't need toreinvent the wheel to heal A
detransition is similar to otherforms of complex grief, and so
there are many resources forgrief and trauma.
So go to those resources.
You know a lot of people.
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Pain is an existential thingthat all humans feel at
different times.
Unfortunately, the trust inhealing professionals has been
betrayed and there's traumaoften around that.
And then most resources don'thave detransition competency.
I would say check out Genspect.
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Genspect have some really greatresources around all of these
issues and I will put the linkin this episode.
But I've been referring to thisdetransition information of
Laura Becker and she's got abook coming out called Surviving
the Trans Myth and she's gotlaurabeckerorg as her website.
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Laura L-A-U-R-A, becker,b-e-c-k-e-r.
So this is her.
I've been reading from what shepresented at a recent Genspect
conference.
So it's important to rememberthat the reason people
transition is usually gotnothing to do with the fact that
they really are trans andeverything to do with a whole
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bunch of other issues.
So it's important to helppeople with those other issues.
It's important to keepcommunication open with your
child because, um, you know theythey're getting told to, um, to
that you don't care and thatyou don't understand and
everything, and so you can becaring and compassionate.
But being caring andcompassionate doesn't
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necessarily mean that you acceptthat they are the opposite sex.
Uh, there is anotherdetransitioner.
Her name is maya poet and ittook her about 10 years, but she
was really glad that herparents never accepted that she
like they loved her and theycared about her and they looked
after her, but they neveraccepted that she was the other
sex.
She said she was really gladfor that because you need people
(30:52):
who tell you the truth, and sothat was kind of really
important for her.
But it's really reallychallenging with these children
because they get there's a lotof activists who try and tear
them away from their family iftheir family want to believe
that they really are the girlthat they were born as or
whatever it is.
So, look, I suppose I want tofinish by just saying, look, the
(31:16):
reason that children go throughthis experience, or the reason
that young adults go throughthis, is complicated.
There's politics involved,there's a lot to do with trauma
and sexual trauma and thingslike that, and when you look at
a lot of the young movie starsand people who are doing some of
these surgeries and things, youwill see if you read about them
(31:37):
.
A lot of these people have hadsexual trauma.
So they're essentially gettingthe bits cut off that you know
that were touched in, a violentcut off, that you know that were
touched in a violent or bad wayyou know.
So this is a really complicatedissue and it's not being
transphobic or being awful to bequestioning of this.
It really is a cult and childrenare being damaged by this cult
(32:02):
and this group, wpath, who tryto pretend that they're a
professional organization.
They are not.
They are full of uh, they arefull of activists and in their
most recent, they do createsomething.
It's a bit like the dsm, butit's like their version of trans
health care that they produce.
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The most recent version thatthey produce has a new category
and the new category is eunuch.
And when you go into thedocument and read the chapter
about eunuch, which is basicallypeople with their private bits
cut off, when you go into thischapter, you will see that when
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they link to their references,their references are chat rooms
for men who enjoy eunuchs.
Their references are notmedical references, right, and
it's important to understandthat one of the people who first
started, the person who firststarted using kind of the word
gender in terms of genderidentity in this language that I
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referred to in the last episode, I think it was actually John
Money, who was a psychologistwho did some very damaging and
horrific experiments on childrenand was not a very good person.
So, unfortunately, a lot of this, without going into a lot of
detail, a lot of gender ideology.
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It's got its basis and itsbackground in people who have
very, very bad ulterior motivesfor your children.
Let me just say that much allright.
So what has?
But what's happened is peoplehave been pressured into.
You know you are not a kind orcompassionate or modern, caring,
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progressive person if you don'tjust kind of, you know, affirm
that all these children reallyare born in the wrong body.
No, they're not all born in thewrong body.
That is ridiculous and we, alot of people who are kind and
warm-hearted andwell-intentioned, have been
caught up in this.
And the unfortunate thing isthat the people who will
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probably be the last for one ofthe term, the last man standing
in this fight, will actually bethe mothers who have trans to
their children.
Because the idea, as a mother,if you've supported your child,
to have top surgery, which is adouble mastectomy, or bottom
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surgery, which is genitalsremoved, inverted, changed
whatever to look like the other,If you've done this to your
child and your child is nowpermanently damaged, you can't
acknowledge that, becauseacknowledging that you did that
as a mother probably is one ofthe most painful, horrible
(34:58):
things that you could do.
So, instead of acknowledgingthat, they actually have to
stick with the belief of thecult, basically, and so they
have to stay with the ideologyand stay in the activism, and
that's why you see a lot ofthose Hollywood type mothers who
have done this to theirchildren are the biggest
activists.
The reason being is thatthey're just going to keep out
(35:18):
there on the campaign andtalking about trans genocide and
talking about saving children,and all this because they're
actually the ones that havedamaged the children, so that
the biggest ones shouting andyelling at other people who are
harming their children, whenunfortunately they're the ones
that have allowed it, which isreally sad, but they are the
ones that will fight to the end.
And also, just in regards tothe surgeries and the
(35:40):
gender-affirming care, thepuberty blockers.
I talked about them a bit inthe last episode and I'll just
mention it again and sorry to beso graphic, but this is like
I've got to tell the truth andthe truth is this is graphic If
I use the language that theusers say.
They use language like topsurgery and bottom surgery and
gender affirming care and whatdo they call it health care?
(36:03):
And all this instead of sayingwhat things really are and
unfortunately this you reallyneed to know what things really
are.
But for boys being put onpuberty blockers one of the
issues that's really importantto know.
So puberty blockers they usethe same medication that they
use to chemically castratepedophiles, right?
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So that's the medicationthey're using.
Now, what happens is, if youput these boys on this
medication before they gothrough puberty is the penis
does not grow.
It's just this little tinypenis and it never grows.
Right, now that ends up being aproblem, regardless of the
choice of this boy, right?
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Because if the boy realizeshe's a boy and wants to stay a
boy, there's an obvious issuethere that he's never grown a
man-sized penis, right?
If he does eventually decide hewants to transition and he wants
to have the surgery to not thathe can become a girl, but to
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imitate what it might look liketo be a girl, to be a girl, they
use the tissue from that penisto create this inverted hole,
and if it hasn't grown, theydon't have the tissue to use.
And because they don't haveenough tissue to use, they start
using things like the bowellining and lining of other
places within the abdominalabdominal cavity.
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And there is an issue now withyoung men dying from those
surgeries and having some reallyhorrific side effects in
regards to the type of tissuethat's being used to make this
neo-vagina, as they call it.
So please understand that whenyou drill down into this and you
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really look at what they'redoing to the children, what the
outcomes are for the childrenand knowing that there really is
not the studies to confirm thatany of this is safe and any of
this is saving them and helpingthem, and most of them have
other issues that are behindthis and they don't need and
shouldn't have any of theseinterferences and surgeries.
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Honestly, the best thing youcan do, the most affirming thing
you can do to a child, isconfirm that they are in the
right body and that they will beokay and they'll eventually
love and enjoy being in thatbody.
And they just need to gothrough puberty and you can
support them through it.
But, honestly, if theyunderstand that puberty is going
to solve their problem, they'retold the opposite.
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They're told that if you gothrough puberty, it's going to
be so much harder for you tochange and be who you really are
.
And who they really are is theperson going through that
puberty as that sex.
So what we do is support themto just go with nature and how
they really are, and that worksout for 85 to 90, I think 95
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plus percent is closer to 98,99% of children, which is
wonderful.
And for that small, very, verysmall percentage of people who
that doesn't work for, it'sreally unfortunate and I really
feel for them and I really hopethey get all of the support that
they need.
But we cannot interfere withall of the children and cause
these long-term terrible healthoutcomes mental and physical
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health outcomes for all of thechildren, for the very small
percentage of children who dohave this issue.
It's got to go back to beingsomething that we address with
the people who need it and notsomething we do to all of the
children or many of the children.
The other issue is that you know, in my opinion, if we, you know
, children are allowed to havechildhood, let them have
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childhood.
They do not need to besexualized in childhood Children
.
They've got all these thingslike the gender bread man and
all this sort of stuff that theyteach children.
They're teaching them genderideology when they're two, three
, four, five years old.
They don't need any of thatright.
And why do you think there'speople on television saying, oh,
my child knew it was a boy,shut up.
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No, let your child just be, andit doesn't matter how they can
dress how they want, and theycan play with Barbbies or not,
play with barbies or all of that, it doesn't matter.
That's what's like it's.
This is so regressive.
It's so regressive because, asthere's there's there's gender,
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these gendered roles that werejected for so long, the whole
point of this ideology is to godrill right back into those
roles again.
Why can't you know?
Boys can just be who they wantto be.
Girls can be who they want tobe.
There's not one right way.
This is what Bill Ball Chrissays.
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There's not one right way ofbeing a boy.
There's not one right way ofbeing a girl.
Be how you want to be, and youcan do that without surgeries
and hormones and pubic blockersand all of that interference.
You can also do that withoutsomeone giving you the idea that
maybe you could have been bornin the wrong body, maybe that
doctor made a mistake.
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Instead of they're told thatdoctors assign them their sex,
they don't assign them, theyobserve it.
They're told that they assignyour sex and hey look, you could
maybe be 85 other things.
How confusing for a child.
Let them be, let them gothrough childhood, let them go
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through puberty and that solvesmost issues and give them the
support they need for whateverthe issues are, whatever the
mental health issues that theyhave, whatever it is that's
driving these issues.
Give them the support for that,but don't feed them all of this
gender ideology which is justconfusing them and damaging them
(41:52):
and harming them in so manyways.
Anyway, I will leave it at that.
I'll put some links in the bioin regards to the things I
talked about.
And, yeah, look, I really wishthe best for young children and
for people going through genderdysphoria.
It must be a terrible, terriblething to go through and the
people I've known who've gonethrough it have found it very,
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very distressing for themselvesand their families.
However, we cannot be in denialabout the truth of this and we
must support these children, notdamage them further, and this
ideology is damaging thechildren.
Anyway, again, please like,subscribe and share and tell
other people about this podcast.
I'm always happy to engage indiscussion on these things as
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long as they are in good faith.
I do not engage in abusivediscussions.
So if you want to do that, goaway, because I'm not interested
and I will not engage, but ifyou want to have good faith
discussion I'm all about that,that's the whole point of my
podcast is importantconversations about things that
matter, and I think this is avery important conversation and
(42:58):
this really does matter.
So we need to be able to talkabout it and to be able to talk
things through and get thingsright.
We need to be prepared to beable to talk and maybe sometimes
be wrong about some things, butwe need to have the discussion.
If we don't have the discussion, we can't resolve this issue,
and what we do at the momentthese days is shut down all
discussions on difficult topicsand say, no, this is the rules,
(43:21):
we follow this ideology andwe're not allowed to discuss it.
That is dangerous, no matterwhat topic you're talking about.
Anyway, I hope you have a greatweek and I'm sorry to be this.
Last couple of episodes havebeen quite heavy but doomsday,
but I really.
This is a very important issuethat I've been seeing, uh, for a
long time and I really wantedyou to um understand what was
going on, because you may nothave heard some of the things
(43:44):
that I have discussed in theselast two episodes.
Anyway, uh, thank you forwatching and listening and I
will see you next week.
Thank you, bye.
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