The YoJoeShow™ Podcast – Episode 2

In this episode of the YoJoeShow™ Podcast, we talk about the Tesla protests, DOGE, NPR & PBS, HAM RADIO and the SpaceX FRAM2 space mission and all things in between. Join us!

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Hello. Hello. Hello, Joe,
and welcome everybody to the Yojo show. How
are you doing?
Here we are. We're back again.
We are back again, believe it or not.
Excited to be here. We have a lot
to talk about today.
Yeah.
Yeah. I doubt we'll be able to squeeze
it all in, but, it'll it'll be a

(00:21):
a great first start. That's for sure. The
world is definitely becoming a more and more
interesting place.
Like,
I think it's Stalin once said, there are
decades in which nothing happens, and then there
are weeks in which decades happen. So it
seems like recently we've been experiencing a whole
bunch of decade weeks, if we can call
it that.

(00:42):
Yes. Lot a lot to cram into a
short period of time.
And,
you know,
Trump said he'd do a lot his first
hundred days in office for fifty one days,
whatever, and he's
keeping busy.
You know,
with that in mind, you know, some people
are viewing all this stuff going on as
positive and some are viewing it as negative.

(01:02):
You know my opinion, and I know your
opinion.
But the reality is that there is quite
a bit of unrest. I think one of
the things we're talking about when it start
off with was talking about all the,
sort of all the craziness going on and
protests and so forth. Maybe that's a good
starting point?
Yeah. I mean, just just right now, it
turns out that there are over a 200

(01:23):
anti Trump, anti Elon. I mean, I don't
know why I'm putting brackets because that is
what it is, but it just kind of
seems a little,
like,
protests for people who have been
seriously brainwashed by mainstream media by by legacy
media, we may say. But over a 200
protests in every single state, supposedly, according to

(01:44):
the organizers, there have been over 500,000
people who signed up to join these protests.
And, obviously,
lots of, very interesting pictures coming from them.
Of course, swastikas. Although, the notable thing I
noticed from the picture I did see from
these protests is that there was a a
red a circle with a red, like, an
do not enter type of sign above the

(02:04):
swastika. So at least it wasn't just swastikas.
So there is an improvement here,
coming from the left side of the aisle.
So that's that's nice.
I mean so yeah. So let's focus maybe
on the Tesla, you know, protests and, you
know, calling it protests. There are Tesla anti
Tesla protests,
but without a doubt, much of what's been

(02:25):
going on, certainly the things that are concerning,
I think, have crossed the line and can't
be just called a protest. It's,
you know,
really, it's it's either is terrorism,
domestic terrorism,
or there are acts that are certainly, you
know, approaching that. I mean, going and spray
painting the dealerships,
you know, damaging the dealerships, and even, you

(02:47):
know, some that have been set on fire,
which is clearly, you know, criminal. These people
need to rest. You know?
One thing, you know, I find interesting,
you and I are so big on free
speech, and and I think there's nothing wrong
when people won't go out and protest and
talk. But I'm more of a
Martin Luther King Junior kind of follower in
that I believe that, you know, peaceful,

(03:10):
you know, protesting, being able to get your
message across.
True. It may take longer. True. It may
not,
be the way everyone wants to do it,
but violence is not the answer.
And Yeah. I think the the term protest
is false the moment violence begins, then the
term riot
begins. Right?
So the minute it becomes violent, it's a

(03:30):
riot. It's no longer a protest. And then
I think the minute it's coordinated and targeted
for political reasons, then it can be categorized
as domestic terrorism. Although,
in terms of protests, there is something very
important to note.
I think it was Churchill, possibly, who said
about Gandhi

(03:51):
that Gandhi was successful
in his very heroic protest against the British
Empire
because he was protesting against the British Empire.
If Gandhi tried to do the same thing,
against the czarist Russian Empire, we would have
never heard of Gandhi. He would just be
another person,
kind of rotting in a Siberian
work camp. Right? So

(04:13):
even the term protest, for it to be
a real protest, is only really valid in
a in a in a proper democracy,
because otherwise,
it usually just gets it becomes violent, but
not necessarily
in terms of the protesters being violent, rather
in terms of the security services being violent.
And then,
I mean,

(04:34):
I'd say the protests that that were occurring
in Iran, let's say the woman in freedom,
protests, those were protests, but it was also
a massacre.
So the terminology
may may may change, and that would be
relevant.
Yeah. I think that's that's important. I mean,
I don't think you or I have issues
with people going and voicing their,

(04:55):
alter you know, dissent or opposing opinions,
but this has gotten crazy. I mean and
it's not only affecting
first of all, I mean,
supposedly, they're trying to protest against Elon Musk,
and that's kind of a little odd to
begin with. I'm not quite sure what he
did that's so bad. But I you know,
we'll maybe touch upon that, which is really
doge. I think that's obviously what's getting people

(05:15):
upset, and do you think they would be
happy about it? But, nevertheless,
you know, but it's not just hurting Elon
Musk. It's hurting, you know, a company
that
issues stock.
It's hurting And ironically enough,
it's targeting
the mostly liberal
owners of the assets that are sold by

(05:36):
Tesla, hence Tesla vehicles. Right? So it's mostly
kind of, liberal on liberal hate, oddly enough,
because the majority of Tesla owners are are
historically liberals.
So it is a little ironic in that
regard as well.
Yeah. I mean, ultimately, that's you know, the
the the concern is how widespread, and and
it's sort of like going after people that

(05:58):
really just own vehicles. You know? The the
left specifically was very pro EV,
anti fossil fuel, let's save the planet, do
all these things, and now it's almost like
they're protesting saying, well, I mean, what's the
alternative? I mean, the the largest and most
prolific EV maker is Tesla.
They came out of nowhere. They were able
to do something no other company could do,

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and that's actually design and bring to market
a vehicle that's actually
one you'd wanna own that's that's an electric
powered vehicle.
And,
you know, it fell in line with what,
you know, really more the left was really
for this.
And then the right perhaps,
which we're concerned about, perhaps the speed at
which things were moving and the impacts to

(06:41):
fossil fuel industry and so forth. But now
they're protesting saying, no, no, no. We don't
we don't want these electric cars. They're firebombing
them, spray painting them, and they're damaging people's
own vehicles. People are going down the street
parking, coming back to damage vehicles. People are
coming up to vehicles that have drivers in
and
and and being aggressive with them. And what

(07:01):
do those individuals do that they And it
was a 70 year old lady who was
just cut off, and then the the driver
of the other car got out and started
beating her
up. Just she was just sitting in her
car just driving.
Somebody cuts her off, and a 70 year
old woman starts beating her up because she's
driving in a Tesla. I mean, it's it's
a little funny because if you wanna target,
like, the founders

(07:22):
if you wanna target companies because of their
founders or owners,
I mean,
have you ever heard of, you know, Volkswagen,
the people's car by Hitler?
You know? Or what about Versa? Ferdinand
Porsche? The first car I own. With his
allies?
First car I own was a Volkswagen Beetle.
Okay? But the legacy in history of the

(07:43):
VW Beetle,
which was you know, this is a a
making of Ferdinand Porsche, went on to actually
go and start his own company after Volkswagen
or after the Beetle was designed. But this
was a car that the Nazi party,
was offering. And if you would get points
for doing things that were
would make the Nazi party happy

(08:03):
of your actions. And if you got enough
social score. Right. You would be free. You'd
get a free social credit score perhaps in
some other countries.
And and if you gain enough points, you
would get rewarded. One of the supposed rewards
was was this car, which is actually an
amazingly designed car. Again, Porsche designed
it. And, but, you know, again, if you
think I've known people who who just said,

(08:25):
look, I can never buy ever a Volkswagen.
Yeah. It's understandable from Holocaust survivors. I mean,
it's not just Volkswagen and Porsche. It's Ival.
It's BMW. It's Audi. They all had basically
free Jewish labor slaves working in their factories.
And it's not just that. Henry Ford was
an avid anti Semite a Semite. Like, a
real anti Semite, not what we call Elon
Musk nowadays. Right? Mhmm. But he literally bought

(08:48):
a newspaper so he can spread his anti
semitism further because him being the rich one
of the richest people in the world just
wasn't enough. Right? So,
yeah, I mean, if you wanna and even,
like, now, who knows what what the political
opinions of
the modern CEO of Ford is or or
of GM or of any of the other
Stellantis?
Or what about the Japanese car car companies?

(09:09):
You know?
Yeah. A lot of people are aware that
The US are. There was a lot of
US model maker money that was going and
supporting
the German,
Nazi,
movement as far as the production of of
military and other equipment that was being used.
So
the only reason I bring it up I
mean, look, times have changed.

(09:31):
Obviously, you know, everyone will make their own
decisions, but I think that given some of
the histories the actual histories that exist for
some of these other automakers,
I I think for someone to be
violently opposed
to, you know, Tesla, which has, again, created
a product that
there was no automaker that had a viable
EV, you know, electric vehicle.

(09:53):
And out of nowhere, you know, this guy
comes along and he's like, I'm gonna do
that, and he did.
And there are a lot of other things
that that Elon Musk has been able to
do. And yet, you know, clearly, the things
that are upsetting people is one that he,
you know, got behind Trump and supported his
his,
you know, campaign for for reelection.

(10:14):
And, the other thing hate really ramped up.
He he was even, like he foresaw it.
He basically said, hey. Heads up. The hate
is coming,
the moment he started to support Trump.
And it was obvious. It was obvious. I
mean,
the the,
like, hardcore legal stuff was
when Biden basically just commanded every single one

(10:35):
of his secretaries and every single one of
the government departments to do whatever it can
to attack Elon and his companies,
which is which is very blatant. But I
I think it comes back to a core
question, which is,
do we prefer
whitewashed
fake CEOs
who never say a word of truth, never

(10:57):
say a word that they actually thought of,
only read off prompts that their publishing team
and their writers and
their social media experts write for them, their
marketing teams. Right? Or do we prefer somebody
who's honest and who's truthful and we can
actually know what they think and and actually,
like, get an insight into that into that

(11:17):
person's, you know, true identity and what they
care about? And and I personally hate the
fake fancy CEO veneer. Right?
I hate it when
all a company does is read off, you
know, a whole bunch of bullshit
marketing slogans,
instead of being honest and truthful. I I
definitely always prefer
a a CEO that is that is honest

(11:38):
and will give me the truth about everything
in life. You know what? I don't expect
them to be
I don't expect to necessarily agree with their
politics. I don't have to in order to
buy their products.
But I I do not want
somebody who's fake. I I just can't believe
a word that they say because it's all
fake. When it's all written by marketing teams
and corporate analysts and who knows what else,

(11:59):
It's just bullshit. All they're doing is spewing
bullshit. And, yes, it sounds professional, and Legacy
Media loves it because they're so professional.
Right? But no. Like, I prefer hardcore truth.
Slap it down on me. And then I
also wanna know what you think about other
things. I mean, you don't have to. Right?
Just like I don't think necessarily
or I don't care for,
let's say, Hollywood Actors' political opinions because they're

(12:22):
usually just dumb people who look good and
are good on camera and can memorize some
lies. Right? Like, their political opinions almost don't
don't matter. Not that ours does, but at
least maybe ours will be a little bit
nuanced than than, the slogans you'll you'll hear
from actors.
But
yeah. So don't I just don't like any
of that any of that fake. I prefer

(12:43):
a CEO. I they don't have to give
their politics, but they definitely are welcome to
their slice of free speech. And they nor
their company should be attacked for for,
you know, acting on that free speech.
Yeah. I and I think it's good, as
you say, for us to know where,
let's say, the CEO leadership team of a
publicly traded company stands. I think that's important.

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But, you know, again, typically, the the result
is if I'm doing business with a company
and I don't like their politics or what
have you, I can choose to to do
business with some other company. I'm not gonna
go and start, you know, attacking that company
and spray painting the the windows and damaging
products that they sell. So I think there's
something is something has changed. I think people

(13:25):
are are kinda gotten out of hand when
when they don't really focus on the endgame.
I mean, they just think that's
I think Elon has actually pointed this out
pretty well.
It's mostly legacy media who's to blame because
if somebody
is brainwashed
and hears 10 times, 50 times, a hundred

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times a day, Trump is a Nazi. Elon
is a Nazi. Anybody who associates with Trump
is a Nazi. Hence, Elon was a Nazi
even before he supported Trump just because he
associated with him. And, right, and just kind
of everybody's evil, everybody's bad, you know, the
personification of Hitler. He's trying to take away
your money. He's trying to take away your
Social Security services. He's trying to take away

(14:07):
your,
what's the term for, like, the money the
US government gives people? I forget.
But
if you really believe that Hitler was alive
today,
both you and me would probably do something
to try and stop him. Right? So
now it it's important to realize that I
think between one and five percent of the

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population are psychopaths,
which means one in every hundred people you
meet is a psychopath.
And usually, they can keep it keep it
tamed. But when they're rattled on
and
they're
they're,
incentivized
to violence
through legacy media. Maybe they won't say the

(14:49):
word, go attack, go firebomb a Tesla.
Right? But if they're if they're radicalized
by the the media
and they're they're incited to violence
through that,
then the few who are deranged
will try to take matters to their own
hand
and,
try and shoot the president. Right? Or I

(15:09):
mean, and that's a whole other conversation about
at least the the first person who shot
the president. But the second person who shot
the president seems like he was just just
a wacko who who who got who got
egged on and and radicalized by by legacy
media. So there should be some responsibility for
media. Although, they were always careful with what
they say to never say the wrong word

(15:31):
to be able to go to jail for
in inciting violence.
But Well inciting violence is what they've been
doing just by radicalizing people so much. And
You bring up a few a few things.
I mean, the first thing I would say
is, you know yes. And I do believe
that any media organization that normalizes or acts
like it's

(15:52):
not only acceptable, but almost like you should
be going out there and doing these things.
I mean, I think that's just
reprehensible. It's crazy that you would want people
to be doing this, especially when they're harming
people that just happen to own vehicles.
I
mean, there are people that own these vehicles
that are concerned for their own safety for
no reason. They didn't do anything wrong. The

(16:12):
other thing is this whole Nazi thing. It's
like, look, maybe I'm from a different generation,
But,
you know, I sat and, you know, when
I was a paramedic, I wound up speaking
with a lot of,
patients who, you know, they showed me the
tattoos in their arms from the concentration
camps
and, you know, told me their stories directly.

(16:32):
A lot of this population is, you know,
they're getting older and there there are not
many around anymore. But I would tell you,
many people have not had the opportunity to
really understand what happened
and to go and equate some of these
other things.
I mean, to Nazi Germany or other or
people
to Hitler,
I mean, is so vile and so idiotic

(16:55):
that, you know, I I I just
I mean, to me, that that in of
itself. But you're right. By using these false,
you know, equality,
statements saying that this person is such and
such or this is what's happening.
And, you know,
it's
it's ridiculous
that
people are fearing for their safety. People are,

(17:17):
you know, concerned about their livelihood if they
work at a Tesla dealership or a Tesla.
And, again, you know, some of the dumbest
things as you pointed out. We had a
vice presidential candidate recently who, you know, luckily
didn't get in,
who, you know, was so happy. He was
on stage
boasting about how much the Tesla stock had

(17:37):
dropped, but I think that
the his state has, like, a 3%, which
is large, positioned
in their pension fund in Tesla stock. So
it's like he's
cheering
on. He's cheering on that his constituents,
pensions are losing a ton of money. I
mean, it's just so like, people just aren't
thinking about what they're talking about. But, hopefully,

(17:58):
this, like, this too shall pass, and people
will
you know? I mean, you're gonna make a
bunch of noise. A few people will get
arrested
that deservedly slow.
So I think of the people being arrested,
there's different levels of of
charges they should actually be. You know, if
you're firebombing somewhere, I'm sorry. You're a terror
you know, domestic terrorist. And the people that
are organizing and funding this, that's a whole

(18:20):
other thing that you and I have spoken,
you know, previously about. There clearly is
money coming in to funnel
this anarchy.
So it's a different,
organizations
have been found to be funding these protests.
A whole bunch of these protesters, these anti
Tesla, quote, unquote, protesters,
have been found to be paid activists.

(18:42):
They just, kind of cellular tracking their IP,
kind of based on their their their phone's
IP. And it turns out that these same
people have participated on average in 20 plus
other protests, including BLM protests. And talk about
mainstream media
or legacy media,
just like we saw with the BLM protest,
they literally kind of motivated the whole thing

(19:02):
to happen and and and would not condemn
it in any way, shape, or form. And
we just saw carnage and destruction. Right? And
this is somewhat of a reminiscent situation.
Right. And there's a difference between people the
your organic organization of individuals to go out
and protest even during BLM. There are people
who just genuinely had something they wanted to
voice. That is not the same as going

(19:24):
and destroying cars, destroying police cars, destroying
businesses,
murdering people, which were murdered by some of
these
protesters, which were more
correctly
turned rioters. But, again, not everyone in the
group was like that and the same thing
here. I mean, there are people who wanna
go and hold up signs or whatever. Go
ahead and do that. It's America, what's wrong

(19:45):
with you? Have you become France?
And for anybody who's unfamiliar, in France,
protests typically turn into riots, and cars and
police cars regularly get torched and burnt and
flipped over and stuff like that.
I don't know how popular it was before
the mass invasion of France, but it's especially,
common now. I think even beforehand, the French

(20:06):
were known for having pretty radical protests,
but the whole level of writing kind of
kind of went crazy. But somehow, it seems
like The US is almost turning into France,
and that that would not be a good
thing. I think the whole association with Nazism,
when Elon
was on the
Trump,
stage and he said my heart goes out
to you,

(20:26):
And then everybody tried to say, oh, he's
a Nazi. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Nazi center. Who else who else
Everybody. Use the same Right. So that's point
number one. Use the same no. Use the
same
the same gesture,
and it's been played, you know, over and
over again as a meme and as you
know? So AOC did the same thing. I
mean, there's memes saying, oh, if she didn't

(20:47):
the replenishing, we're
fighting. Too. You know? I mean, listen.
Anyone that
that advances that narrative, I mean, frankly,
that's ridiculous. He literally said my heart goes
out to you. He touched his heart, and
then he opened his hand to the crowd.
Right? Right. So, I mean, it it couldn't
be more false,
more

(21:09):
more manipulative to try and claim that that's
a Nazi salute than,
like, than is possibly imaginable, especially when you
realize that every single democrat
has pictures with with them and their hand
raised up because people raise their hands. And
like Elon rightfully pointed out multiple times, the
issue we have
with Nazis and with Hitler is not that
he raised his hands.

(21:30):
That's not why we dislike Hitler.
It's not because of his mustache either.
Right? We don't hate him because of his
mustache his mustache or his mannerisms.
We hate him because he was a mass
killer. He was a psychopath
who
murdered probably 20,000,000 people, right, of which he
systemically

(21:50):
created death factories for 6,000,000 Jews and gypsies.
Right?
So that's the issue we have with Hitler,
not his hand gesture.
Right? So to now say that somebody is
evil because they did a hand gesture that
somewhat relates to that hand like, there's nothing
wrong with that hand gesture. There's nothing inherently
wrong with that ugly mustache.

(22:10):
Right?
What's wrong with you is murdering people and
expecting a nation to do so. Although that
particular mustache
has fallen out of favor for the most
part, and I would you know, he's certainly
to blame.
Yes. For sure. And if you notice somebody
with that mustache, you should probably question,
their their motives. Right?
But, again, this is point. Listen. People should

(22:33):
be if people are upset with someone, they
should be upset for their actions. And, again,
the actions I I mean, maybe the next
thing we can talk about actually now
would be Doge. Because, oddly, the two things
are that Elon they're not I I don't
think people are upset that Elon figured out
how to
get us back in space
because we were hitching rides with the the

(22:54):
Russian space program because we didn't have off
by the same time. We had no other
way of getting there, right, to to our
own space station.
And, ultimately,
you know,
rockets,
these planned flights to to Mars,
human flights to Mars that he's planning,
all the things that he has been working

(23:14):
on. I mean and, you know, again, he
he solved the problem that nobody could solve,
and that is how do you design
and mass produce an electric vehicle that people
would actually wanna own? And then how are
you gonna provide infrastructure to actually charge these
cars? But, you know, if not for the
Tesla's charging stations, supercharging stations, there really is
nothing else even close to that. So he

(23:34):
built something out of nothing. You would think
and you and in the past, you know,
states like California have been pushing to require
that by whatever year,
all vehicles have to be electric. And now
there's this where they're, like,
opposing the company that produces arguably the best
electric vehicles with the best technology,
which they're willing to share with other companies

(23:55):
to just advance
the notion of having an electric vehicle. They're
protesting that. So what else is it? It's
really that he's you know, that that Elon
Musk supported Donald Trump and continues to support
him. Mhmm. And Elon Musk
basically
Waste.
Got it.
Chosen because of his intellect, if nothing else,
and his ability to solve problems, which he

(24:17):
solved in all these other avenues we talked
about,
to help
figure out where all the waste,
fraud, and abuses in the government as they
as they said. And in the end, what
has he discovered?
I mean, how much I mean, this is
mind boggling, the things where money US taxpayer
dollars were going to. It's shocking. It's beyond

(24:39):
imagine I'm sorry, but I think that a
queer dance group in Serbia
definitely deserves $3,000,000
from our taxpayer money. I mean, how can
you even question that? But, you know, if
that was the extent of it,
I feel good. But it's not then. We're
30,000 of those.
Listen. There's a Social Security issue that with,

(24:59):
you know, people that are, you know, whatever,
300 years old or or a hundred and
something years old. There's, you know, there's and
now they announced this week that they've seen
that a lot of these people have Social
Security cards. They actually explained it. They've determined
how this happened. People are coming into the
country, given a temporary stay, but were being
issued Social Security cards. And a lot of
these people were able to register to vote,

(25:22):
and many of them did vote. Some are
being processed. Of them did vote. It's funny
because I remember the the,
liberals for years
saying that it is
impossible
to
to try and steal the vote. It is
impossible
to to commit voter fraud. Voter fraud has
been tested, and it basically never ever happens,

(25:43):
etcetera. Well, I can say that look. Yeah.
Without a doubt, there's been voter fraud. I
think we we both agree with that. That's
number one. And number two, we now know
also that a lot of people who, shouldn't
have even been in this country were allowed
to vote and did vote a percentage of
them who did vote. And that's that's only
one small piece of voter fraud.
And

(26:03):
told by legacy media that that was impossible.
Yeah. How could it be? Very possible. Look.
Even
even the Biden administration
has admitted that, you know, the country of
Venezuela, the Maduro didn't win that election, was
totally rigged.
Okay? You and, you know, it's We use
the same machines. Just just in a safe
time. You know? Funny.

(26:24):
We think there can be we're so special
that we can't have fraud. The Philippines had
voter fraud. We've had voter fraud in prior
elections that have been identified.
But it's like if, you know, if if
it goes to the other party, you're gonna
say, well, no. It's impossible. We will Every
party wins fair and square and blames the
other one if there's something. But it's like,
you know, ultimately,
there's a a lot of this is interconnected,

(26:45):
and it's all about money and power. Right?
So the thing about Doge, you would think,
look.
Here here's what I view as the the
negative. Okay? I mean, what are the what
are the problems?
Anytime you downsize,
there's gonna be people that otherwise should have
maybe still stayed in the positions that will
lose a job.
Absolutely. And and and and it you know,

(27:05):
to that person and their families,
that's not great. But Mhmm. I think the
one thing I've never heard being discussed
in,
you know, on in the legacy media or
just in general is this. If you look
in the in in the private sector, this
happens all the time. K?
I you know, in the hospital systems, this
happens even

(27:25):
where hospitals merge.
They send it or they pay millions of
dollars to consulting firms. I do business consulting,
and someone could hire myself and say, look.
You want your firm to go and and
get a team together. We wanna go and
and find some efficiencies that we can actually
work on here, try to improve our bottom
line. And almost always,

(27:46):
guess what the very
most expensive thing typically is that you can
go after? Payroll. Okay? Yep. So what typically
happens in
a reorganization
as they call it. Okay? Reorganization
is the prettier name for downsizing.
They'll go and they'll justify the consulting firm
that's gonna be arguing the points, gonna give

(28:06):
all these reasons why they have way too
many people doing all these extra things.
People get terminated,
some of which have been there for years.
Some people might be given the opportunity to
reapply for the same job they had. Yep.
And this is nothing new. And what often
happens is down the road,
because the companies that are being brought in

(28:27):
to have this happen are very aggressive because
they get paid based on their and they
can get referrals for other for other work
based on how aggressive they can they can
be at cutting costs. They wanna cut a
lot. K? That's their their main thing is
looking at the dollars and cents. I don't
care about anything else. So that scenario in
the private sector typically results

(28:48):
in companies losing more employees than they can
actually operate
operate without, you know, with. So they actually
need to rehire a bunch of people. So
it's like a pendulum. They fire a bunch,
have to hire a bunch. So for anybody
to be upset about what's happening here,
they're
they're acting like this is an unheard of
thing. It's not. It's just that the federal

(29:08):
government has never done this. The federal government
has hired on the last few years so
many people. In fact All the economic growth
under Biden, basically, all of it was government
jobs. Right. The job
the job numbers were coming from federal
employment
and all these positions. And, again, there's been
so many reports of people that had jobs

(29:28):
that wouldn't show up to work. There's so
much real estate owned by the federal government
Majority.
That that the offices are empty. There's one
story
that I heard this week where they had
the building could hold thousands of people. The
only people that showed up were less than
50, and these were people that were coming
in, you know, periodically. And they had the

(29:49):
people in the cafeteria coming in preparing food
every day. But, like, for the For thousands.
The entire building was empty. I mean But
the the the the food company was still
being paid to prepare food for thousands. So
every single day, they'd prepare food for, like,
5,000 people. They'd throw it out, then lunch
for 5,000 people, then throw it out, then
dinner for 5,000 people, then throw it out.
When in reality, for years, no more than

(30:10):
50 people were coming into the office. Listen.
In in the private sector, this would never
fly. No company would would be able to
continue operating and go bankrupt. So Yeah. You
know, what's different with the federal government is
it just, you know, collects tax dollars. It
seems like it's an endless supply of money.
And, you know, at some point have that
that's not the endless supply of money. It's
the money money printer going brrrr. That's the

(30:31):
Well, so yes. So so that's the other
digits changing on one of the treasury 17
computers.
Right. So government's believing that they can just
go and print money
forever.
You know, at some point
that and they can and they have, but
at some point, there's, you know, severe consequences.
And I think that what's interesting is all
these elected officials, prominent elected officials, for decades

(30:53):
have all said, we're gonna reduce waste and
abuse and so forth. On the left, on
the right, they've all said the same thing.
But you know what? No one's ever done
it. And now
where we we really are at a point
where
many of our programs, including Social Security, are
gonna break bankrupt. They don't have enough money
coming in. There's more going out than there
is coming in at some point that's unsustainable.

(31:16):
And
what countries have done across the world when
they have issues like that is, well, they
extend the retirement ages as has happened here.
But at some point, you're not gonna work
till you're a hundred years old. You can't
just If you heard Howard Lutnick,
he was like,
you want me to make a sixty seventy
67 year old need to work an extra
three years
because we can't cut even 1% of the

(31:38):
waste in government, even 10% of the waste
in the like, how crazy is this? The
government has no other way of generating additional
funds. Why should we put put more pressure
on the on the public? And the same
thing with the money printer going brrr, that
is the worst form of taxation. But don't
get it wrong. It is taxation in every
way, shape, or form. Right? Inflation is is
taxation by it's just invisible taxation. Right? So

(32:01):
people don't notice it. It's just people will
will go to the store and blame the
supermarket chain for raising the prices on them,
when in reality, it's not the fault of
the supermarket chain. It's the fault of the
of the government printing more money.
Listen. I I had a Thunderbird
poor Thunderbird years ago. K? I bought it
used. Beautiful. Someone that never drove it. Okay?

(32:22):
I was a lot younger then. I think
it was a early eighties model.
Beautiful car. It was great. Typical American made,
you know, back in those days.
I I eventually got rid of it only
because when I'd stop at a traffic light,
I could see the gas needle going down,
literally literally as I stop. I was waiting
for the light to change. And I have
one of these massive engines. Car was super

(32:43):
comfortable. It was built like a tank,
power everything,
and I bought it for a few hundred
dollars. Alright? And
it was a car I bought from
the son
of the guy who won the company my
mom worked for, who she worked for for
thirty years.
So they they'd have the car sitting behind
the building, didn't use it. So when they

(33:04):
heard I was looking to buy another car,
and I'd made comment how nice that car
was, they said, you want it? How much
how much you want to pay for it?
So I told them what I could afford,
and I bought it for that. And in
the glove box
was the sticker that had been pulled off
the window from the dealership. It was still
there. This car was in immaculate condition. It
was never driven. Like me? I've loany sticker?
The sticker that's on the window on the

(33:25):
side of the car, you know, when you
go to the dealership. The loany sticker. On
the loan? That's there's a name for it.
Yeah. I think it's the loany sticker.
I may be wrong. So I looked it
up, and you know which the car was
new?
It was, like, $3,000.
That's a car today. It had and this
is the eighties. It had power seats on
the driver and passenger side. Right. It had
heated seats. It had a power moon roof.

(33:47):
I mean, it had all kinds of things
that back then not all the cars had.
And and even today, not all of them
have it. And $3,000.
So people don't like because it's easy to
forget about inflation because it creeps up on
you over time. But, like, to think I
could you know, if I could go today
and buy a a car, that today would
be
70,000,
60 some, $7,080,000,

(34:08):
which would that would probably be,
for $3,000.
I mean, that that's a huge difference. Alright?
And, yes, people are In nineteen eighties was
only forty years ago. Right? Right. And people
are making more money, but at some point
again, you know,
this happened in Europe,
in Italy,
in other countries too, where Mhmm. The money
became so devalued. That was one of the

(34:30):
benefits. So, you know, my parents are from
Portugal. You know, this was happening all over
Europe. Some of these countries had such rampant
inflation
in Latin America too. I mean, it's not
just Iceland. Yeah. Venezuela. They were I I
remember watching them,
create clothes by sewing
the highest denomination bills together because it was
basically not worth as much as buying fabric.

(34:50):
So you guys will use it for something,
and people will literally just making clothes from
the bills. If you wanted to go buy,
you know, a piece of fruit at the
the the corner store, you might have to,
you know, carry the money in a wheelbarrow
to bring it there. So I'm just saying,
you know, a lot of people don't you
know, we're
certainly,
benefit from a a pretty good standard of
living here in The United States. And I

(35:12):
think for a lot of people, a lot
of younger people especially,
I think they don't really understand really how
far inflation has come and how painful it
is,
because it's not something it's like getting gray
hair. It doesn't happen, you know, from one
day to the next. Not that you look
in the mirror and go, where did it
all come from? You know? And that's inflation.
And that's why you said it it doesn't
seem like a tax because you're not doesn't

(35:33):
say it on the receipt,
you know, but or on the invoice, but
it's no different. And and It's not just
that it doesn't say it on the receipt
or on the invoice. It's that the the
government doesn't even disclose when or how much
they've been doing it.
Right? So the only way to track it
is to try and keep track of the
prices of goods and services, and the government
is the one who does that. And then
they play games with what is included

(35:54):
in the core CPI
and in the different,
kind
of metrics that they look at, and then
they'll play games with that to make the
inflation look less
bad than it is. But like we said,
it it is basically the most evil of
all taxes because it takes from those who
do not have. Right?
So inflation is extremely good for people who

(36:15):
own a lot of assets.
If you own stocks, inflation means there's more
money to go around, more people are buying
stocks. That means the value of your stock
goes up. If you own real estate, it
means more people have money to to to
buy real estate. And it's not because more
people actually have money. It's because the government
is creating this money, but there's more money
in the system.
So now the the value of your house
goes up. You think, oh, wow. It became

(36:36):
rich. I bought this house for $200,000.
Now it's worth a million. I'm a millionaire.
Right? When in reality,
the the core value of that house hasn't
changed much. The the what happened is the
value of the funds that purchased that house
have dropped drastically. Right?
So
it is
inflation is almost a positive. It's not actually
a positive because it's damaging to the entire

(36:57):
economy, but it is at least seemingly a
positive to the rich, to the asset owners.
And it's the worst of all negatives
to the poor because the poor are the
ones who don't have assets that that can
appreciate
while the prices go up. Right? So at
least if you have assets appreciating, you have
something to cover for the losses of the
prices going up, whereas the poor do not

(37:18):
own assets.
They may not even have a four zero
one k. They do not own a home.
So for them,
when the prices go up, it just means
that they can't afford to buy food. It
means that they can't afford to pay for
medicine. So it is the most evil of
all of all taxes because it's
it's invisibly stealing from the poor
to give to the rich, but not not

(37:40):
really the rich because that money is typically
spent by the government, so
giving to the government and its dirty cronies.
Right? So it's the most evil of all
taxes, and it's an invisible tax. You know,
when you say poor, let's expand that. It's
not really just the poor. I mean, it's
it's the middle it's everybody. Lower income, middle
income. It's it's the masses, basically. Maybe that's

(38:01):
a better word.
A large percentage
of the populace
are hurt by inflation
in a really bad way. I mean, groceries.
Forget about cars.
Groceries.
I mean, the cost of buying,
going out to eat. I mean, everything is
so expensive, and it's we've actually seen it
go up just in the last few years.

(38:22):
The last three, four years, everything has gone
up so much. And, again, it's unsustainable.
At some point,
things will get to a to a price
point that people just can't afford
at all.
And these are basic, you know, necessities. Point,
the US government is gonna get to a
point where they won't be able to service
their debt. We're already at a point where
the,

(38:44):
where the what's,
not inflate the,
like, the percent like, the APR, the percent
the government charges. Right?
On The US's debt
So not to cover the debt itself, just
to pay Just to pay the interest.
The interest, thank you, is larger than the
entire Department of Defense's budget. Right? So we're

(39:06):
spending more to service our interests,
not to cover our our loans or to
cover our debt, but just to service the
interest more than we spend on the entire
department of defense, which a reminder is larger
than the next twenty twenty militaries combined spend
on their on on defense. Right? So it's
it's a ridiculously high amount of money. And
this isn't money that's being productive in any

(39:26):
any way, shape, or form. It's just money
to enable us
to not go bankrupt immediately.
But if we continue spending like the Biden
and Harris administration were doing and plan to
continue doing,
there is no future for The US. The
US would go bankrupt, and we will lose,
basically everything that we hold dear. So what
DOSH is doing

(39:47):
is critical for saving the US government. Like,
this is no joke. This isn't some, you
know, crazy billionaire going on a tyrant trying
to destroy things.
No. What he's trying to do is he's
trying to save us from bankruptcy.
And, surprisingly,
the people protesting don't care about that. And
the reason I assume is one of one
of twofold.

(40:08):
Either people are brainwashed
by legacy media. So I think the majority
of the protesters so like we said earlier,
a lot of these people,
at least in in the Tesla,
protests, but probably these protests as well, a
lot of them are paid actors. They get
paid to do it.
Like like Joe Rogan said, if if if
somebody reached out to me years ago and
said, hey. Here's $400
a day and free lunch. Just stand there

(40:29):
with a sign. Hell, yeah. I do that.
Right? It's such a no brainer. It's good
money. So, and then we've seen, kind of
pictures
of leaflets
where the chants are written down because the
people haven't memorized it because they're paid actors.
They just were paid to show up. They
don't actually care what's going on. Right?
And we've seen kind of the buses that
organize them.

(40:51):
Somebody on on x has actually analyzed the
24 organizations that have been funding this. So
this is all very
it's not people demanding,
you know, people caring. But aside from the
the paid agents and the paid provocateurs,
basically,
there are
there are people who are afraid, who have

(41:11):
believed legacy media that DOGE is trying to
take away their Social Security and their Medicare
and the medic the Medicaid.
And those are just unintelligent people who have
been kind of brainwashed by by legacy media.
The other people
are those who worked for the
12,000,000,000
NGOs that were created by the Democratic Party

(41:32):
over the last ten years
to funnel money around, to funnel The US
taxpayers' money through USAID and through
basically every other government agency
who was were all giving money to
all extremely left radical
NGOs who were all spending that money, giving
it to other NGOs and other NGOs and

(41:53):
more NGOs,
and kind of completely hiding the the money
trail and was creating a slosh fund. But
the interesting thing is that each one of
these NGOs
that has, you know, budget of 300,000,000
has a board of 10 or 12 or
15,
usually pretty high ranking,
Democrats. Typically,
the wife or brother or sister or cousin

(42:15):
of a high ranking Democrat, so it doesn't
look as suspicious. And they all sit on
the board, and they can collect a nice
salary of a hundred and 50 to $500,000
a year for being on the board of
this NGO who has literally never helped a
single person in in their life. All they
do is take money from USAID and give
it to another 12 NGOs who are going
to spend it in different ways, shape, shape,
or form, but mostly by by transferring it
to other NGOs. And it just became this

(42:36):
this crazy slush fund. And at the end,
the people who are supposed to receive the
fund probably never received it, if if they
were ever going to get it in the
first place. I mean, we saw with Stacy
Abrahams
where she created a charity, an NGO
out of thin air. And within five months,
it received from the Biden administration two billion
dollars to, quote, unquote,
buy
energy efficient utilities like, stoves and and fridges

(43:00):
to for poor Americans.
It received $2,000,000,000
even though it's never done any good for
anybody ever aside for Stacey Abrams, of course,
of course, the political,
activist.
I think she's a con congresswoman.
Literally, as, yeah, a brand new NGO,
never did anything, and received $2,000,000,000.

(43:21):
If you remember before the end of the
previous administration,
I think it was,
the guy who does the under,
undercover cameras.
You you're talking about James O'Keefe?
Yes. Thank you. James O'Keefe from O'Keefe Media.
And he basically recorded somebody in one of

(43:43):
those, you know, you know, fake dates that
he that he would do,
or his staff would do,
somebody who worked for the I think it
was the US Treasury or USAID or one
of these organizations, and they were literally saying
the directive of the Biden administration
has been to throw gold bars off the
boat,
Literally, just to just grab as many gold

(44:03):
bars on you can as you can and
throw them off the boat. And
with the amount of money we saw,
Biden tried to spend
by the end of his presidency. It was
like he was literally trying to tank the
economy so it would it would collapse under
under the Trump administration,
and Trump would be blamed for it. But
they were literally throwing
gold bars off the Titanic.
And

(44:24):
they were just it was just the amount
of waste is incomprehensible,
and that's that's what we're seeing doge fight.
I mean, just the fact
that the treasury
would never ask for any,
details or any notations on money requests,
any money request that came from approved computers
would be sent
with without even tagging where that money was

(44:44):
going. And we was like, how can it
be that the US government failed its, its
audit and the DOD failed its audit for
so many years in a row even though
the US government paid McKinsey, you know, $5,000,000,000
to help them with the audit, and they
still failed the audit. How is that even
possible?
Right? And the reason is when there's no
tags for the money and you don't know
where the money is going, it's impossible to

(45:04):
pass an audit. So that's, like, the bare
minimum that DOJ has been doing. Yeah. Yo.
So if I mean, listen, let's let's let's
be clear. It doesn't matter if they have
an r or a d after their name.
Elected officials
for years and years I mean, this has
been going on. It's nothing new.
The the you know, so and in most
countries, including The United States, we don't particularly

(45:25):
think of an elected official necessarily being the
most honest or what have you person. Okay?
So that there's corruption
and all this other stuff going on in
government
isn't really a big surprise to most people
on the street. The problem is that at
this point,
and I think
privately,
all these politicians would admit,

(45:47):
the country
is gonna have a catastrophic problem. It's happened
in other countries.
We're no different. Okay? We don't have endless
amounts of money to fund wars or do
this or do that and just keep doing
what we've always done.
And
on top of that,
to also
have the monies that have been going out

(46:08):
to every kind of imaginable thing where the
people in the end that actually receive the
money is a big question mark. Who's actually
pocketing the money that first many of these
things sound like a half decent
cause,
but in the end,
even the money, you know, money going to
Ukraine, you know, Zelensky is saying he doesn't

(46:28):
know where a lot of the money that
supposedly went to him went because he said
he never got it. And that's a conversation
for another day, but that's just one example.
There's these programs that sound terrific, but since,
like you said, the government itself can't seem
to pass any audit, typically, and the money
just seems to disappear, and we just keep
putting more money,
more and more money. It doesn't just ever

(46:48):
end.
At some point,
the government's gonna collapse. And the bottom line
is
people are feeling it. People have been feeling
it, you know,
for the last few years that things are
just unaffordable.
And if it gets much worse,
people are just not gonna be able to
survive.
Okay? Consumer debt, so credit card debt is
again

(47:09):
skyrocketing.
The average consumer, the average citizen in The
United States or person living here has massive
amount of credit card debt. That's a problem.
And one of the underlying issues too is
these credit card companies
are charging
insane
amounts of interest.
Usury rates over 25%.
Like most chart rates on some of these

(47:29):
cars.
It's just again, it's not helping. Okay? And,
again, the federal government is looking at ways
to perhaps, you know,
fix that because some of these some of
these situations are just, again,
one thing to have, you know, credit card
debts, another thing to have debt so high
and an interest rate that's

(47:49):
impossible to pay the thing off. It's just
a guaranteed
situation where there's gonna be a collapse, a
financial collapse at some point. So I think
That's another in the app that's caused by
inflation. Right? So Right. The only way to
fight inflation is to raise interest rates, which
makes money more expensive,
which means there's less money going around, which
means prices of on on on everything goes

(48:11):
up because prices on money goes up. So
the cost for every business is more expensive.
So
suddenly,
it's it's like you're you're getting kicked from
both sides. From one side, you're getting kicked
because of inflation and the value you know,
the cost of of goods are going up.
But then on the other hand, you're getting
screwed over because you can't borrow money and
everything is becoming super expensive.

(48:31):
I think the quote, unquote
explanation or solution
that
the Biden administration tried to pose
for their endless,
inflation is called MMT, modern monetary theory. And
it's a ludicrously
dumb Keynesian economical
point of view saying

(48:52):
there is a little bit of logic to
it. And the logic is basically
because The United States is the the greatest
superpower in the world,
we owe our debts to other countries.
Yes. They can stop issuing us additional debt,
but if they ever try and come to
collect, we've got bigger muscles. We have a
stronger military, so they can actually collect by

(49:13):
us collect from us by force. So, therefore,
we can continue printing money as much as
we want because our army is the strongest
army. So
it's it's a ludicrously
evil and stupid point of view,
for many reasons like we elaborated earlier on
the call. Right? It's it's really just stealing
from
from the poor to give to
the to the rich and to the government

(49:34):
cronies.
Also, the the idea behind it just just
doesn't make any sense. Not that anything in
Keynesian economics really makes much sense.
But that justification of modern monetary theory saying
because we have a strongest military, we can
just go ahead
and just print money and waste money. Like,
there's no it's it's not even about printing

(49:55):
money. You know, printing money, inflation is one
thing.
A slight slight small level of inflation is
generally accepted to be a positive, usually around
2%. So it's not not necessarily inflation
itself.
It's the concept that we don't have to
become more efficient. We don't have to clean
up waste
because it's all fine. We could just print
more. Right? And that's really where Doge is

(50:15):
coming in. It's really just time to to
to clean house. And like we saw with
x, with what Elon did at x, and
like Elon has mentioned a whole bunch of
times,
you do not know that you've cut enough
until you're forced to rehire about 10% of
the the people you fired. That's when you've
known that you kind of hit the right
amount. So if you're if you're if you

(50:35):
end up hiring back less than less than
10%, you probably did not fire enough people.
Right? There's probably still waste in your organization.
And if you are forced to rehire back
more than 10%, it means you went too
far and you've hired too many people. But
the advantage of
firing people and then rehiring them is you
get to choose who you're going to rehire,
and you can choose to rehire the very

(50:57):
best of the very, very best. And I
I think it's time we move on to
the next topic. I can I can just
wanna add one thing to that? Go ahead.
This is very common. Again, you know, this
is lot of a lot of companies actually
do this.
Years ago, when I was a financial planner,
you know, by trade, when I was actually
working in that industry, you know, there were
companies. I mean, one was Paine Webber, I

(51:19):
think, that they had
a they had it set so that every
year,
the managers
were required
to essentially fire 10% of their staff. K?
And a lot of the the, you know,
the managers that actually had to do the
firing weren't happy about it. And they're like,
look. All my people are great. I don't
wanna fire any of them. And senior management's

(51:41):
answer was,
well, that's terrific,
but you have to find the 10%
that's the worst of the best.
And they need to leave, and we gotta
give an opportunity
to work with less or to hire new
people that can prove that they're and then
next year,
survival of the fittest. The company was basically

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looking to keep the best of the best
working there. And I think
when you think about it, when you think
of the size of the federal government, you
know, employment,
that's
a lot of people. So a lot of
people are gonna be, you know, let go.
Eventually,
there'll be there'll be short term pain. It's
unfair to some people, but it needs to
be done for the good of the country,

(52:22):
I think. Mhmm. And then, you know, look
at departments that maybe we don't need. I
mean, one of the things we we were
talking about, you know, previously was NPR.
We're looking at a public
television and radio system in The United States
now?
You know, it's
the year 2025.
We're not in 1980
or '60 or '50.

(52:43):
What, you know, what are your thoughts on
that?
Yeah. So I think,
yeah, like like you kind of said, back
in the day, there were kind of not
really, but there were limited radio waves, and
there were very few
avenues for people to consume data.
So it there was somewhat of a justification

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that, you know, having
a government funded radio and a government fund
funded TV channel could make sense.
But nowadays,
when we're the problem is not lack of
information.
The problem is that we're
we're drowning in too much information.
And and and and over forty, fifty years,

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these organizations have never been able to be
profitable like we said about the government. It's
like, they don't even try to be profitable
because why if the government could just print
more money and continue funding it. Right? So
it's like we've seen a lot of other
forms of news and media that are profitable.
Why should we be,
you know, footing the bill for this waste
of money?
And then you realize that it's just government

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propaganda, just straight out government and and lies.
And it's not even, like, positive government propaganda.
Like so here's an example of positive psychological
warfare and government propaganda.
During
the Vietnam War,
the CIA who was doing,
kind of
doing some propaganda,

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they decided
to drop from planes over,
Vietnamese
bases,
humongous condoms.
This is true story, by the way. So
that the Vietnamese will see the condoms
and think, holy shit. These guys have humongous,

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pickles.
And,
you know, in in general, Vietnamese Asians tend
to be smaller stat statured people, and,
Americans tend to be larger statured people, especially
African Americans, but not only. Just in general,
Americans tend to be fairly larger people. So
when these Vietnamese were seeing Americans face to
face, it was almost like they're they were
facing giants.

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But then when they saw the the size
of the condoms that were, you know, for
the troops,
it really kind of spread fear in their
heart, or at least that was the idea
behind, you know, the the the propaganda attempt.
Right? So so propaganda,
our nation spending money on propaganda
to
to

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for the enemy population to see, right, or
enemy's fighters to see, that could be valuable
propaganda.
But for the US government to spend money
on propaganda
against the American people,
funded by the US government, who's at war
with the American people kind of I mean,
obviously, not war in
the way the typical form, but

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the government basically has been trying to do
and we've seen this with USAID literally funding
terrorism.
You know, the Democrats are like, oh, soft
power, soft power, soft power. It's like,
it's not soft power when you're funding terrorism
and when you're funding transgender
dance groups in in the Balkans. Like,
that's not

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forwarding
The US's cause. If you want soft power,
we have jeans. We have rock and roll.
We have Hollywood. We have Taylor Swift. Right?
The US has a lot of soft power,
and none of that is thanks to USAID.
Right? So
USAID has been doing nothing but fighting against
the interest of the American people

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So in the name of the US government.
And that's
a shame. And NPR and PBS have been
the strongest proponents of all of that. Right?
And
they gotta go. Right. So the question is,
do do we still need to be spending
endless amounts of money
for a national like, you know, I grew
up in Canada. Right? And Canada has the
Canadian Broadcasting System,

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you know, The UK. England's got the BBC.
Mhmm. And, you know, do we really need
to have a national government control, basically?
Although they you know, the you might you
might hear different from
their,
you know,
their executives as we heard recently.
You know, they're saying they're unbiased and so
on and so forth. But, you know, even

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Bill Maher,
which I thought was hilarious,
he, you know, he was going on and
saying, you know, his what was his his
his comments? Come on, lady. Everyone knows you
guys are, like, far left, you know, lunatics
or whatever he said. But, I mean, that
comes
from a guy you know, like, he was,
like it made it kind of a joke,
but, really, you know, coming from from a

(57:16):
guy who's, you know, not a Trump supporter,
not a Doge supporter,
not, you know and, but he's an old
he's more of an old school liberal,
old school democrat. Okay? And he says, look.
I mean, let's call the, you know, spade
a spade. Bottom line is, you know, National
Public Radio and all of the other publicly

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funded,
communications
essentially are
left leaning, so they don't represent the entire
country.
I mean, extremely left leaning. You know, at
least they were They they they they may
they may,
represent the one percent of the 1% of
the most radical extreme leftist. And when when

(57:57):
I was,
watching the kind of
the, con congressional hearings about NPR and PBS,
and they was like, oh, no. We're not
biased. We're trying to be evil, you know,
equal. I mean, the the one from NPR,
she said, I must admit that NPR was
biased before me. So what I did to
solve it is I created a task force
to fight biasness,

(58:17):
you know, to to fight to fight our
our our bias. It's like
the Democrat solution to any problem
is more government, more regulation,
more oversight, more
corrupt
bureaucrats.
Right? Instead of saying, hey. We have been
I agree we have been, you know, way
too left leaning over the past decades, and

(58:39):
therefore, we will fire half of our staff
and replace them with right wing people so
that way we get a a balanced newsroom.
Right? Or
maybe, you know, we'll we'll just kind of
rethink the it's it's all like, we'll we'll
create a new
organization to over a task force to oversee
our biasness. And that's, like, the most bullshit

(58:59):
corporate talk ever. You know, kind of like
we said earlier, we want a CEO who
can tell the truth.
That is not a CEO telling the truth.
That is a is a corrupt political bureaucrat
saying whatever they need whatever she needs to
con continue get getting money. So
Well, I mean, listen. That's so
I I think we both agree that, you
know,

(59:20):
publicly funded
television and radio in The US, PBS,
NPR,
you know, shouldn't continue receiving the kinds of
monies that it receives. These are just examples
of things that have been around forever. But
you know what?
We may not need them anymore. And, certainly,
given the
the often
extremely biased
reporting that occurs with these, you know, these

(59:42):
these different stations that are operated
under the NPR, PBS
banner,
it's probably the time has come to move
on. And because people, again, like you said,
can
source media and can source news and,
entertainment and shows that are educational
from a wide array of of choices.

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And I think it's up to the individual
to you know, I think we have like
you said, we have too much information. It's
not that we don't have enough.
So that's that's a great, you know, sort
of example. And, you know, look. Let me
give there's another example that perhaps might be
the, the flip side of the coin. Right?
Let me just to note on this.
It's not just the bias in the reporting.

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That's only half the story.
It's the bias in choosing what to report
and what not to report. Right? So by
selectively,
picking and choosing stories,
they can create a completely false narrative that's
utter bullshit. Right? So a a good example
of that is if you look at hardcore
data
of car vehicle fires, right, you'll see that

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the least likely cars to catch fire are
EVs, specifically Teslas.
The,
medium level,
kind of regular amount of cars catching fire,
which is a surprisingly high amount,
are, you know, gasoline cars, combust combustion engine
vehicles. And the most dangerous, the most lethal,
the cars that are by far most likely

(01:01:09):
to catch fire are hybrids. Right? Everything is
duplicate, and they're just they're just much, much
more likely to catch fire. But then if
you look at the news,
gasoline cars have been catching fire for the
last a hundred and fifteen years. There's literally
no news in that. Right? So the media
will never
have a headline saying, hey.

(01:01:30):
Toyota just caught fire on the street. It's
like it happens 30 times every single day.
Right? And and by the way, the numbers
are that a Tesla is
a
hybrid is 10 times more likely to to
catch fire than a Tesla. 10 times.
Right? So it's extremely
more dangerous. Right? The EV is extremely safer.
But by the media

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never pointing out anytime a hybrid or a
gasoline car catches fire and every time emphasizing,
you know, top headlines, big pictures, Tesla catches
fire. It was hot hotter than the sun.
Firefighters were there for twelve thousand hours and
couldn't couldn't put it out, which many many
times turns out to be completely false. Right?
They create a narrative. Right? And they brainwash

(01:02:13):
people into thinking,
oh, those EVs catch fire. When in reality,
they're much safer
than traditional vehicles, which catch fire by a
much higher margin. Right?
So
the just it's not about what they report
and how and how biased and corrupt they
are at what they do report
report. It's about what they choose not to

(01:02:34):
report
because
that equally creates,
an interesting picture. And and it's important to
notice that Well and and I agree. I
think that that's ultimately what's important
is to just look at,
you know, these stories. That's I think people
need to go and look at different sources
and,

(01:02:54):
be able to,
you know, choose the media that they're that
they're relying on. So in doing that, they'll
be able to to really understand the totality
of the story, not just get it from
one specific angle or one example of it.
So, you know, and it's like the old
story of the blind men. They went up
to an elephant,
and they each touched different parts of the

(01:03:16):
elephant,
and were asked to describe what they had
found. And, you know, Juan had gone to
the side of the elephant and
put his hands up, and he felt, wow.
This is one big wall. You know? And
he said, an elephant. Yes. It's like a
wall. Story book. Yeah. The the seven grabbed
the elephant's
leg and said it's like a column, like

(01:03:37):
a cement or, you know, a stone column.
One grabbed the trunk, you know, and With
the holes.
It's like it's like a snake, you know,
and it moves around. One grabbed the tail,
and the tail was kinda like a rope.
And each one of these,
these blind men is correct. They're all correct

(01:03:57):
in their limited
analysis
of what they were examining.
And that's the issue, and that's the example
you were giving us to how they,
in the media, can
take a piece of truth and make it
seem like it's the entire story,
or make it be much more
valuable to the story than it should be.
And, you know, like I was saying, look.

(01:04:18):
At the end of the day, that's, I
think, the answer. People should source their media,
listen,
ask questions,
not trust any story just on its face,
and and look for more answers.
And,
it wasn't always Another
trick the media does, sorry for cutting you
off,
is

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in addition to what they do report with
extreme bias and propaganda
and to what they selectively
do not report,
is the media will many times create a
false equivalency.
Right?
So an example will be,
yeah, so for those who claim that the
Earth is round, you know, there's you know,
we'll hear from so and so. And for

(01:05:00):
those who claim that the Earth is flat,
we'll hear from so and so. And it's
like, yes. Some
really stupid people do believe the Earth is
flat.
Right? But creating this you know, we have
to give for every point of view two
sides, no matter how stupid one side may
be,
is
really just giving a microphone to stupid people
to to to spew their stupidity. Right? So

(01:05:22):
that that's just one example, but we've seen
this all over, right, with with with anti
Israel protests and many other things where
basically by creating this false equivalency,
oh,
Israel kills civilians, and Hamas kills civilians. So
they're the same. Right?
It sounds good for television, and it sounds
like you're unbiased. Look. We're not biased. We

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give each each side a a microphone at
the table. Right? But when that microphone
you have to give to the most radical
of radical extremists.
Right?
And then you give them a a microphone
to to present the other side. What you're
really doing is you're just platforming
crazy people. Right? So that's another trick that

(01:06:06):
they use.
So basically three, what they do report, what
they don't report,
and then creating false equivalencies,
where they make two things sound equal, and
then they make them sell self sound unbiased
by presenting both sides of the argument when
in reality, there shouldn't really be any argument
at all.
You know, it's sad. You know, if you
think of the early days of radio even

(01:06:27):
even before television where people huddled around the
radio and there was no television.
You know, things haven't you know, sometimes
advancement of time and so called progress isn't
always,
in, you know, a good thing. I think
that sometimes,
you know, maybe the early days and some
of the early
the commentators

(01:06:47):
and reporters that we had back when I
was a little kid. And I just told
it the way it was, and there wasn't
all this spin. And,
you know, even growing up in Canada, for
the most part, the news
back then, way back when I was younger,
would present the news, just the facts,
and then they'd have a commentator
who would come

(01:07:08):
and present an opinion, and it was presented
as that. That was an opinion. It was
the the commentator's opinion on a specific topic.
That was typically at the end of the
newscast.
Now that's not the way it is. The
entire newscast
is essentially
a commentary that can be particularly biased for
whatever the
the station or what have you wants to,

(01:07:29):
you know, talk about.
And and it's kinda sad because, you know,
the radio waves and communication
serve a lot of positive purposes, not just,
you know, not just propaganda, not just, you
know, negative things. I think communication is very
important.
And,
you know, that's it's it's it's kind of
interesting thinking back of how things were back

(01:07:51):
when times were simpler. You know? Yeah. And
then when cable came in and CNN discovered
that having people shout at each other makes
for, you know, better viewership at least in
the short term, that may be what caused
the sort of the downfall of CNN because
people maybe in the short term, they hear
people yelling at each other of different sides
of the aisle, and it gets them all,
you know, rounded up and excited, and they

(01:08:12):
they can they can take a stance. But
I think over time, people just do not
like hearing
people yelling at each other and false equivalencies
and arguments for the sake of arguments.
But that has what that is what PBS
and NPR mainstream media has mostly become is
just people yelling at each other. And at
some point, that stops being,
educational or informative in any way, and it's

(01:08:34):
just entertainment.
Although it's really entertainment if you wanna get
pissed off. You know? It's not actual,
enjoyable entertainment.
But earlier, you were mentioning,
kind of old school radios.
I know you used to be a ham
radio operator, and,
you still are, I think. And that that's
a very cool hobby to have. But recently,
there was some news about, ham radios and

(01:08:56):
outer space.
Wanna go ahead and give us the scoop
on that?
Yeah. No. That that's that's a true story.
Yeah. Actually, so I've been an amateur radio
operator, otherwise known as a ham radio operator,
for a long I mean, a good twenty
years. I gotta look back and see really
how long it's been, but,
it's been over two decades. And,

(01:09:18):
ultimately, you know, ham radio
is still important and very viable. Many of
the tech the technologies and things that we
use today
were essentially invented or discovered
or tested through amateur radio operation. Amateur radio
are basically individuals that are using communication
over the airwaves
for
something other than a business, something other than

(01:09:40):
professional,
operations. They're doing it basically just for,
advancing knowledge for the most part in communications
and for personal enjoyment.
But it's also used during times of disaster
to communicate
when all else fails as it says as
we often say in ham radio,
that all all the other communications imagine your
phone systems, cell phones, everything goes offline.

(01:10:02):
Amateur radio operators can still find ways to
communicate
across town or across the globe. And one
of the interesting things, you know, that I
got
sort of
a a passion for had to do communication
with
the International Space Station. So,
recently,
we've now had the opportunity

(01:10:25):
to,
to have SpaceX having all these different missions
going on up to the space station,
and they fly other missions as well that
are not specific to docking with the space
station. The reason one you're talking about is
the Fram two mission, which is really geared
at,
imaging

(01:10:45):
the poles, the north and south poles of
the Earth, something that really wasn't done the
way that they're doing now. I don't know
if the reason was necessarily imaging. I think
there may there there are, kind
of, satellites that orbit the the poles. I
think it's just never done in history before
where where humans have humans have orbited the
poles.
So that is just an exciting new that's

(01:11:06):
never been done before.
And, specifically,
this time, it wasn't government astronauts. It wasn't
NASA astronauts. It was, you know, private civilian
astronauts. So that's some that's something very exciting.
I don't I don't think they did any
groundbreaking work in terms of taking pictures of
the poles.
I think it's just the first time humans
have ever orbited the poles, and what's very
cool is that these are civilians.

(01:11:27):
But there was something kind of cool that
was that relates to your hobby of ham
radio and relates to a wonderful, fascinating story
you once had in the past. Yeah. So,
well, from two, what happened is they were
able to actually send images to Earth using
SSTV, so slow scan television. This is an
older technology that's been around for a long
time and allows

(01:11:47):
transmission of images,
across
the
amateur radio spectrum.
And it's called slow scan because you could
actually see it as it's slowly
populating the screen. You'll see these lines are
being drawn, and they actually sent images of
the poll. That's kind of it it's a
really great project for people that have an
interest. They should look up Fram two. This

(01:12:08):
is from this this work was being done
again by
by, non
astronauts where they were actually trying to now
we're actually up that actually volunteer private
private astronauts.
The correct way is private astronauts is what
we need to call them, who are actually
on this mission.
And it's it's something that's part of a
bigger project, but I think it's fascinating. And

(01:12:29):
I think it's great that they were able
to use this as the first time
that,
that a SpaceX mission actually transmitted
amateur radio back to Earth. But what you're
probably alluding to was what happened. One moment,
though. I think it was,
they did some of the first X rays
in space supposedly
or maybe some type of X-ray that was
a first, and I think that's what they

(01:12:50):
sent to Earth. I don't think it was
pictures of the poll via ham. Maybe I'm
wrong.
It it you may be right. Bottom line
is first Dragon
Yeah.
Mission that actually sent ham radio transmissions to
Earth,
which is terrific. And,
ultimately
A fanatic years ago, back in 02/2008,
yes,

(01:13:10):
times time flies. Right?
There was an interesting sort of corollary to
this where
at that time,
we had a gentleman who had an interest
in going to space, and he he'd been
dreaming about this kind of all his life.
His name was Richard Garrett. His dad, Owen
Garrett, was the first
NASA astronaut

(01:13:32):
to ever communicate via ham radio from space
to Earth.
And he did it for the first time
on s t s nine,
a space shuttle mission.
And, ultimately,
he,
started something that has been continuing all these
years.
So not only were there ham radio communications

(01:13:53):
from the space shuttle missions, but also the
International Space Station is equipped with several ham
radios.
And in 02/2008, it had this unique opportunity.
Owen Garrett's son, Richard,
who was not an astronaut,
wanted to go onto the space station and
do what his dad had done as it

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pertains to ham radio, because he's a was
a ham radio operator also. But we didn't
he didn't really have a way of getting
there, and ultimately,
he paid an undisclosed amount, we imagine probably
in the millions, who knows, to,
the Russian
program, and he went up, trained with the
Russians,
trained with cosmonauts,

(01:14:35):
passed the required training, and then flew on
one of their rockets, which was typical back
in those days anyhow for how we would
get even our US NASA astronauts to space.
And he flew up to
the International Space Station. They docked. He spent
ten days aboard the space station, and his
project, his civilian project, was essentially

(01:14:56):
to use amateur radio and communicate with ground
stations. And I wanted to speak with him,
And,
after several days of trying,
because it's not always as easy as you
think,
you have to talk find it exactly as
they're passing overhead. Correct? Right. So we have
software we can actually follow. In fact, the
space station, even when it flies over my
house here, oftentimes, I'll go out and look

(01:15:18):
and I'll see it passing overhead. If it's
just if it flies just right at the
right angle, you can see it passing.
Most people don't even probably realize that. It's
not cloudy.
But we actually if it's not cloudy. Not
too much late pollution, etcetera.
Exactly. But I was actually able to go
and plan after a few days of trying.
Finally was able to speak with Richard,
and my it was just a few days

(01:15:40):
before he returned to Earth, and I basically
congratulated him on his mission, waste wished him
a safe trip back to Earth. And when
amateur radio operators communicate with, other operators
at a distance, typically, you exchange cards.
These are little cards that look kinda like
this.
Let's see if that your cameras yeah. You

(01:16:00):
got Yeah. It's probably just wanna pick it
up. But, anyhow put it right on top
of your phone. There's a bit of it.
There's a bit of the card right there.
So if you see it's got the ISS
on it. So this is basically the card
that I was sent back. It's a USL
card, which basically confirms a two way contact
with the International Space Station.
I send them one from me confirming my
side of the communications.

(01:16:20):
And, you know, again, it's it's something that
even today, we have kids in schools that
do get set up to be able to
communicate with,
with the space station periodically.
It's a way to motivate
children to get into STEM programs, learn about
space, learn about a you know, all the
different engineering and aviation jobs and things that

(01:16:42):
that they could potentially have an interest in.
And, you know, a lot of the kids
that have been selected for the future of
Mars missions are coming out of, you know,
schools that are encouraging
programs like this.
The American Radio Relay League, the a, double
r, l, which is the largest voice for
amateur radios in United States, right, amateur radio
operators in United States, and then we have,

(01:17:05):
we have an amateur satellite group as well.
So AMSAC. So we have different people
who are involved specifically with communications.
We also have satellites that are being put
up by
universities that are for ham radio use specifically,
where we can go and communicate
from Earth to the satellite and back down
to Earth. And the reason I bring this

(01:17:25):
up is, you know, I think all of
these things
are
important
that today in our day age of having
cell phones and having all this technology at
our fingertips,
there's so much going on behind the scenes
that most people don't even realize.
And amateur radio is still a big part
of that. A lot of the effort being
put in by amateurs

(01:17:45):
to help advance our communication capabilities as we
explore space and as we continue to,
to do the things that we, you know,
we wanted to do and continue to to
aspire to do in the next years and
decades. So it's an interesting story, I think,
yeah, that they used amateur radio to communicate
with Earth for transmitting,
images,

(01:18:06):
from a Dragon,
spacecraft.
We'll see what else gets done in the
future, but I I think it's, it's exciting
when you have
private,
you know, private astronauts basically going up and
helping on some of these missions,
in Toronto. I think the it's a cool
way of kinda finishing the,
the episode. I think it's really cool

(01:18:28):
that it's a it's a fun story to
end on the entire mission. You guys should
should should go. I think there's a guy
on Twitter called Chun Chum,
who's one of these astronauts and who who
just got back
from this,
this polar orbit flight, and he's very funny
and entertaining. So, yeah, it's just something exciting
and fun to kind of, end the episode

(01:18:49):
on, especially
the fact that you were able to directly
communicate with the ISS. I think that that's
completely badass. So,
yeah, shout out to you for that.
Thank you. And and that was that's something
I've never forgotten. It was really cool. And
listen, you can go to wwwfram,fram,thenumbertwo,ham,.com
to learn more about that specific this mission

(01:19:11):
that was, done with, with SpaceX. Did you
ever record your conversation with the ISS? Because
you definitely should have. I should have. And,
you know, the only reason I didn't, because
a lot of hams will
the reason I did is I've been trying
for several days and was unsuccessful.
The end with something amusing. On the last
day, and I was using an antenna mounted
on my house at the time,

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tried different things. Finally, I said, you know,
it's my last chance. And this was, like,
the the the pass
would will occur at different times. This was,
like, at five or something like that in
the morning. Fairly early. It was still dark
outside. And I'm like, you know what?
I the radio in my car also is
capable of doing these types of transmissions
to on the on the band that it

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needed to transmit. So I said, you know
what? I went my car,
pulled it to the edge of the driveway,
called out, because that's what you do, you
call to the space station.
And much to my surprise, I got an
answer. So I really wasn't prepared because as
much as I really wanted to to have
that opportunity,
I'd spent several days just trying, and it
just wasn't working. There were other stations that

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were reaching them, maybe more powerful or whatever
than the equipment I had. And, you know,
believe it or not, you can communicate with
the space station,
with a handheld radio. Okay?
So anybody could and and you can get
a radio for after you and and there's
a lot of people out there ready to
mentor and help people learn how to pass

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their ham radio exam.
I am an It's a great hobby. It's
a really great hobby. Yeah. I'm an extra
class.
There's three classes of radio ham radio licensing.
But even with the basic technician class, you
can you can do so much. It's an
interesting hobby,
and, I think people should just at least
learn more about these things that are happening
that,

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maybe get forgotten with all the technology. And
I'll just finish off. When I was in
high school, there was some
nerdy looking kid that used to be carrying
around a walkie talkie. No one had cell
phones. That didn't exist. It was many years
away from and I didn't know what that
was, so I asked him one day, and
he showed me that he could use his
ham radio to call home. It would go
through,

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an intermediary
system that would that he could punch in
the phone number, and he could call his
mother
from, you know, from school, which I thought
was the coolest thing ever. Yeah. I always
had an interest in it, and it wasn't
until many years later as an adult that
I really got into it. But little things
like this, I think if we talk about
it, we can motivate people to get into
science and technology. So I guess that's a
great way to end the, the episode to

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just motivate the the younger generation
to consider,
you know, if not becoming an astronaut, but
maybe
becoming someone that can somehow,
aid in future missions and space travel through
communication
or through other projects.
Why not?
Yep. 100%.
So, yeah, thank you everybody for joining.

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Thanks for joining, this the Yo Joe Show
episode two.
That's Joseph Roston, and I'm Joe Carvalho.
See you next time. See you next time.
Bye.