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Speaker 1 (00:01):
solo leveling.
Ah man, like it just getsbetter and better with each
season.
But before we get into that, Ifeel like I need to recap season
one, since the gentleman here,koki gatsu and talos gundam uh,
led the review in my stead.
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But uh, let's do this rightbefore we roll into season two.
So, as we know, solo levelingis a south korean that follows
the journey of an initially weakand underwhelming protagonist,
son genu, and a world whereportals connect earth to
dangerous dungeons filled withmonsters.
So it kind of gives you thelittle video game kind of vibe.
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So story begins genu e-rank theworld's weakest uh struggling to
make ends meet.
He's trying to help put hissister through school, his mom's
in um hospital because theeternal sleep curse and despite
his low rank, it's hard for himto make money and enter dungeons
and all that shit.
He eventually joined a partythat discovers a hidden double
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dungeon, deadly challenges,heavy casualties.
Junu almost lost his life andwas left for dead when you know,
trying to help the others, butmiraculously the system helped
him out and he woke up in ahospital.
He can take on quests, rewardsand level up um.
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This a unique opportunity forhim in this world where hunters
go about, um, getting theirranks, because once you know,
once you get awakened, you getthat one rank and that's it.
But sometimes there's like areassessment and yeah,
throughout season one, he facednumerous dungeons and enemies,
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steadily climbing the ranks,gains allies such as the noble
hunter uh chai halian, andencounters formidable foes and
including the powerful dungeonbosses and otherworldly beings
known as monarchs.
His reputation grows.
He's become not only known forhis strength, but also for his
strategic mind and leadershipskills.
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The seasoned culminates in agrand battle against an S-rank
dungeon boss that threatens thesafety of his soul, and, with
his enhanced abilities and withthe help of his summoned shadow
soldiers, genu manages to defeatthe boss, showcasing his growth
from the weakest hunter to aformidable force.
That was season one.
Now let's get into season two.
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So, essentially, genu isdelving deeper into the secrets
of the system and the origins ofthe dungeons.
He learns about the existenceof monarchs and rulers.
These are these powerfulentities vying for control over
earth and as he navigates thisnew landscape, genu grapples
with his humanity and hisresponsibility that comes with
his powers.
Throughout the season, heencounters new allies, such as
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the guild master, gokhan he, andformidable enemies, including
other monarchs who seek tochallenge his growing influence.
The political landscape amonghunters has become more complex,
with alliances and rivalriesforming among the various guilds
and nations.
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The War of the Monarchs?
Is this tension betweenmonarchs and rulers escalating
into a full-blown war, withJunyu caught in the middle?
So he must make strategicalliances and confront his own
limitations as he prepared forthis impending battle that could
determine the fate of the world.
So, as Sinsu 2 concludes,junyu's journey reaches a
critical juncture.
He faces a series of personaland existential challenges that
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test his resolve and commitmentto protecting humanity.
Uh, it ends on a dramaticcliffhanger, setting the stage
for a final showdown andpromised to answer lingering
questions about true nature ofthe system and genie's ultimate
destiny.
Uh, that's pretty much the gistof season two, but I have
additional notes on season two.
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This is where I get kind offunny, so if I sound like, oh
well, that's not completelyaccurate, to be fair, I'm kind
of doing it for the jokes forthe most part, but here's how I
really feel about season two.
So genu kills some polar bearsand adds them to the army.
This raid captain, kim chul,starts tweaking about genu
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helping his team survive whilehis squad gets wiped out.
So kim tries to kill him.
Genu kills him instead and addshim to the army as iron, which
is like this kind of like thebumbling idiot of the generals
where he's trying to uh copyigor's flows, where it's like
igor's with hand on genu on thehead of his enemy, and then iron
is like, hey, I'm gonna do thattoo.
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And then igor is like thisnigga here.
Genu then mows through some iceelves easily.
We are introduced to song iljuan, who is genu's and jina's
father, who was trapped in agate 10 years ago but managed to
escape the gate, just to end upin prison and america accused
of being a magic beast.
Genu quest to obtain the elixirof life in order to restore his
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mother's health.
He also decided to drop the ax,so to speak, of being an e-rank
in order to participate inhigher rank raids and, according
to the reassessment, genu isconsidered the 10th s-rank
hunter that the hunter's guildhas come across.
We get to see some well-endowedwomen in action in Episode 5.
You've seen the post withLibora, gina, and so Jinwoo in
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particular.
You know the Pugilist woman.
Jinwoo killed some orcs and, astheir leader to this rank,
renamed Kargogon as Tusk.
Genu also dropped a classicVegeta line.
You know when he fought, whenVegeta fought Android 19, and he
asked Android 19, do you feelfear?
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And Genu said the same thing tothe demons and he also dropped
a Kamina line.
You know when he says who thehell do you think I am to a
fucking, oh, fucking ant king?
But uh, anyways, uh, no, no,that wasn't ant king, that was
the demon monarch, that's right,and he was fighting the demons
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in the demon castle.
Uh, and the demon monarch, likeI said, he asked the wyvern, uh
, kaisel, to the shadow army.
We're introduced to the radirufamily, who is his clan of
demons.
That helps, you knew.
Uh, the plot thickens when thewar against the monarchs, like I
mentioned before, becomes moreimminent and the s-ray hunkers
prepare for the jeju island raid, where a giant flying ant began
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attacking the mainland.
Now, the setup for the jejuisland oddly reminds me of
mirror room from kamaya and Artfrom Hunter x Hunter.
Just a little bit, just alittle bit.
And the animation, the designs,the fight choreography is stone
cold, as usual.
Spades were definitely caughtthroughout the season,
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especially with Jinwoo versusthe Ant King, who Jinwooenu,
excuse me adds to the army asberu and you know, whenever beru
shows up, oh, you can see theanimation, all that.
But uh bro, this anime has somuch sauce that it retains its
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five star status for the timebeing.
I can't wait for season three.
I can't wait to see whathappens, especially on jenny
stepping to this red gate,because we know that reggae is
also like a very critical artfor him as well.
So, for time being, 10 out of10.
I fucking love this anime.
So I'm gonna open this up tothe panel now starting.
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Starting with Talos Gundam.
How you feeling about SoulLeveling, season 2?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
First and foremost,
put respect on his name.
It is Son Rip.
That's what the fuck that man'sname is.
He aura forms for a livingEvery episode.
He's catching aura in the wordsof my boy, pancho, what the
(08:10):
huss is always watching.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Every time it's like
he raises up people without
trying.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Exactly Every episode
is always watching.
That's how he put it.
But outside of that, let meexplain to y'all the joys of
being able to at least talk toy'all heathens about the glories
, the glories of him gettinginto what we call his prime and
(08:45):
some of y'all Basketball hoesout here oh, lebron is the
greatest.
No, no, no.
This, right here, is what primeLeBron wants to be.
That's what the hell this is.
This, right here, is what primeLeBron Wants to be.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Damn Straight like
that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Michael could never.
I want y'all to knowWholeheartedly that this, right
here, this man, how Sway Do you?
Literally, you, an egress Tagteam, and this man Step out of
your.
This man steps out of your.
(09:25):
This man steps out of yourcloak in all pure swag, pure
swag.
Mind you, before this, youdidn't even let the, you didn't
even let the Chief of the IceElks finish speaking.
You was the one that cut thatman's head off.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It was his buddy, you
know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying, though.
I love the way he did it,though it was like, oh hey, my
boy here told me about you andhe wanted to scrap with you, and
then he cut that head off.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
He didn't get to say
he wanted to scrap.
He didn't get to say he wantedto scrap as soon as he went to
say, hey, he want to click whathe want to do again.
That man dead what he want todo again.
That's basically how that went.
That's how that went.
He went straight up and waslike what that man want to do
again?
Nah, it's all right, notnothing.
Nothing he could have checked.
(10:23):
When I tell you that some ofthese fights, demon King fight,
I want y'all to understand.
Lord, lord, have mercy.
Once again, the Huzz waswatching that man.
(10:44):
That man literally kept thatgirl from dying from the
lightning, turned around and waslike I may not be able to get
the demon, I want the dragon.
That man said go for it, I wantthe dragon.
That wyvern's mine.
This, let you know, this mangot taste.
This man got taste.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean it makes sense
to have a flyer In your army,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Let's step back a tad
bit, shall we?
Let's step back even further.
Well, even further still, right?
No, bruhs like going back to itwhen he got tusked.
Oh, oh.
Never in all your days have youever seen such a masterpiece of
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ass whoopiedry.
Like bros, every single fightwas goaded.
Hands down, hands, fucking down.
I'm not trying to be out hereand be like Tuck.
I ain't trying to be like that.
I'm not trying to sit here andbe like oh yeah, you know a
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stand, because I'm an actual fan.
Once again, I want y'all toknow my boy puts in the work to
make sure he is the best.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean to be fair,
the Luria blows almost look like
JoJo-esque where it's like goddamn, he just really beating the
dog shit out of some of theseenemies.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Half of them, half of
them, he of them, he play with,
and I'm going to be real withit.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh no, he really
played with the Ant King.
He was like really playing withthe food with the Ant King.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Not as much as you
think either Like I don't know
what you're saying, like you letthis man hit you just to be
like oh okay, that wasn't it,hold on, let me get you back
real quick.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Huh, bam Right
everybody thought that he was
like Jinwoo.
Oh man, he was so strong, butapparently he just wasn't strong
enough to smoke clear, felt alittle scratch, hit him back.
You know, like wait a second no.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And like my boy said,
like my boy, hensho, said, and
he skipped for this, how yougonna play with your food?
Like this, what you mean?
No, you let this man hit youwith poison Poison and you know
you're immune.
You sat there and played likeyou were weak and the moment
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this man walked up, you cut histongue out.
What?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh, actually hold on.
That's one thing.
That's one of the things thatwhen it gets my turn into it,
there's a lot of stuff that'sactually changed from the manhwa
to the anime here.
So that point where you say,cut the tongue out, he only cut
the tongue out in the manhwa.
He actually didn't do that inthe anime.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I mean yeah, true, In
the anime he didn't show, but
you know.
But let me get to the partsabout that real quick.
So Japan, Japan, we get salty.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now we salty, oh bro.
No, no, they have been saltyBecause they changed a lot of
stuff in this anime.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Hold on One thing I
want to talk about.
So we salty now Because yourboy basically got his ass
whooped.
So instead of you showing it,you decide oh okay, no, we're
not going to show that.
We're not going to show thatJust because your nigga got his
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ass whooped.
Oh no, no, hell, no, that'sbecause your nigga got his ass
whooped.
Oh nah, nah, hell, nah run thatentire fight back run that
entire fight back the way it wassupposed to be run, because
y'all, some bitches, and youknew, you fucking knew, that
this man got literally, he gothis ass whooped.
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He got his ass whooped.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Real quick, jb.
Do you know who we're talkingabout?
Though, wait, what?
Do you know which characterwe're talking about that got his
ass whooped so bad?
That's just from the Japanesesquadron.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
The name just escaped
me, Like sometimes with the
names.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
He's the top S-rank
for the Japan squad.
The top S-rank.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Describe him to me
Like the appearance, the older
guy, the older guy that nobodywanted to squabble with.
But then when Jinwoo showed up,he was like no, I want to
squabble with him.
And then Jinwoo was like Iagree, but you need to go all
out when you're fighting me.
Yes, goto, goto.
Okay, goto had two asswhoopings that he was supposed
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to.
That was detailed out in themanhwa that they completely cut
out in the anime.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no,
no, because I noticed that and
I was like goddamn, oh, and how.
The Ant King thought, oh, isthis your king?
He was like on some Killmongershow, like where's your king?
At, I need to give him the pay.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That was.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like I said, my thing
was.
Like I said, my thing was youknew your dude got his ass
whooped in the mongrel.
You knew he got his ass whooped, but you want to cut it out.
You don't want that.
So you want it to show up aslike they tied.
However, even when it lookedlike they tied, your boy still
(16:24):
came off sweating, didn't evensweat a bit.
But okay, I digress, I digress.
Like I said, y'all wanted to cutsome scenes out.
I get it.
You want to add an extra ofyour own.
Take some scenes away, not puteverything in.
However, I'm going to say itagain for those of you out here
(16:45):
Read a book, read a book, read amotherfucking book.
That way you can see.
Ain't nobody got time for this,nah, nah, because I want folks
to know yeah, they trying toplay on my boy name, they trying
to play on my boy top.
Ain't no way in the fuck youlet that slide.
(17:06):
No, then on top of that, on topof that, the fucking Beru fight
.
I say again Y'all did not haveto.
Y'all did not have to do Beruthat way.
Y'all did not have to Do Barrythat way.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Y'all did not have to
.
He was on some Galen shit FromSeven Deadly Sins Like oh shit,
he's way too trying to get out.
And then Jin was like no, no,no, hold on, I thought you
wanted this move.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm trying to wait,
but honestly, that's one of the
things that I actually hated,because in that moment it it
feels like they hold him Becausehe didn't do that.
He was the ant king.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
He stood like a proud
king in the Marwa, so them
making him run away was like Inthe Marwa, because he may not
have ran the way he did, but inthe Marwa he was running like a
bitch.
He didn't run.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The first thing he
did was when he took, when he um
first time, when becauseobviously I'm bringing that up
too when jimmy first hit himwith mutilation, the first time
jimmy unlocked mutilation to hithim with it, the first thing he
did was pull his hope, wasbring to all the answers to a
whole army strike.
He didn't run until like at thevery end, when his army's been
defeated and he was at the pointof literally about to die after
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he transformed and everything.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, that's what I'm
saying, but before then that
was it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That whole continual
running like a bitch.
That never happened.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Like I said he ran
then and that part I give them.
Once he saw that he was likeokay, I'm, I'm completely
outpowered, oh no, I gotta go.
He was, he ran then but beforethen, like no, like y'all, y'all
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, when I say, when I and I saywholeheartedly it was overkill,
it was overkill, yeah, the mangamade it seem like it was a
little bit more fair, butanime-wise that was overkill
Y'all literally basically said,oh no, bitch, I'm mad today.
So what I'm fixing to do is I'mgoing to hit you with the
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32-piece combo and then followthat up with the 64-piece ultra.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I feel like they had
to ham it up for the season
finale.
They did.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
They did, don't get
me wrong.
They did because Barrow was oneof the hyped-up fights.
Barrow was one of the hyped-upfights and, like I said, because
I want to hear what Kofi Gutsgot to say.
But I want you all tounderstand.
Coming up, the Andre fight, Iwant y'all to know, I want y'all
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to know I'm going to be likeThanos when that fight come up.
What I'm about to do ispersonal.
I'm going to do Is personal.
I'm gonna enjoy it, cause everyounce.
Of what's been happening.
Andre deserves.
I can't wait.
Go Go, go, go, go, go, go, go,go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go,
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go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go,go, go, go, go Go, come on it
was.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It is most so, look,
you know how it is like what
iron's hot.
You know, ride the light andtouch it true, so I'm not gonna
say I mean, I have gotten up totalent status.
However, I definitely can't sayI'm not a stan.
I'm definitely a fan at thispoint because I read the manhwa
today.
All right, I'm not all caughtup, I ain't read the whole thing
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, because the manhwa, no, mostpeople don't realize solo
leveling.
The manhwa is actually alreadyfinished.
You're already on the secondseries, yes, involving his son.
We don't rack on.
Yeah, we don't rat and rock.
I haven't gotten anywhere nearthat far.
Okay, so I still got quite abit of manhwa to read, but I
want to make sure I had a chanceto read, to understand it,
because I read online.
So many people that as manypeople still loved it, clearly
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still give it a high rating.
There's a lot of stuff thatchanged that they're kind of
upset about and some stuffyou're like.
Okay, I can accept this changeand some stuff you're like, but
why did you do that?
It's like.
It's one of those ones like itdoesn't make sense.
Like, for example, the tvbroadcast went out in the anime.
That's not what the fuckhappened in the month.
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The reason what happened in themonth was that.
So in the anime recap realquick our healing man dies, he
dies and at that point, after hedies, they're getting destroyed
by the Ant King.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Young Yu.
I think that's his name.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So the signal winds
up going out and everyone's
calling the broadcast network.
We can't see nothing, we can'tsee what's going on.
He's like, well, I don't knowwhat to do.
I don't know what to do, andstuff like that.
In actuality, what happened wasin the Monwar.
The video was stillbroadcasting and everybody
watched him get killed by theant king.
As soon as he was ran throughthe media, people cut the feed
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from everybody and the men, theproducers, literally says they
still have that moment whereit's like, oh, people are
calling in asking questions, butinstead of saying what can I do
?
I don't have nothing to showhim, I don't have nothing to
show them, he's actually sayingwhat should I do?
Should I show all of our, allof our heroes being slaughtered?
This one black ant shows up outof nowhere and he's killing
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them.
We have lost, there's nothingwe can do anymore.
And I don't know why theychanged that.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And also to context
and reference that to help you
out.
The reason they changed thatonce again they spliced how they
spliced the mom one stuff incertain spots, you know,
basically combining areas andstuff, so making stuff run
faster than it normally would.
And as such, with that, becauseEven though it was supposed to
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cut out and it didn't cut out inthe right spot, I do get how
you feel.
At the same time, I'm going tosay it didn't really take away
too much.
But at the same time, this iswhere I say I have to be kind of
understanding.
And I say I have to be kind ofunderstanding because I know how
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it works.
I have to be kind ofunderstanding when they uh, do
this, because you can't puteverything in the same spot the
same time, as much as we wouldall like it, they try to add as
much of it as possible, say okay, yeah, so this did happen here,
but it's going to happen alittle differently and
everything else, and so you justhave to kind of kind of go with
(24:01):
it, even though I do agree withyou, because in certain areas
of it, yeah, I don't agree withthem um, splicing some things
out or moving some things aroundbecause some of it just doesn't
feel right.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So I'd understand you
on one of the other things that
they wound up splicing, whichis when Jiwoo first showed up,
he immediately focused oneveryone, on healing everybody,
giving them all the potion andthen understanding that child
couldn't be healed and stuff.
Because in the monologue, whathappens?
As soon as he shows up, heshows up scrapping.
When Jiwoo shows up, he showsup scrapping.
When Jinwoo shows up, he showsup, starts slaughtering ants and
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then he does not care that thebroadcast is going.
He immediately hits a rise,brings forth some undead ants
and starts rebuilding andbuilding his army up again.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Like, yeah, he went
to whooping the ass.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But it became a major
change for Jinwoo where he
started focusing on helpingeverybody and then was like yo
don't tell nobody what you seehere.
And then you know before he wasabout to bring up the ant and
stuff, but bring up the shadowant, but then you know it got
interrupted.
So I understand that aspect.
They changed that becauseJinwoo in the manhwa is cold.
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He still does protect peoplebut he's very cold.
He lives for the battle.
That's a real thing for him.
It's one of those things thatreally awakened in him.
The system made him that way.
He became more of I'm here forthe battle, I'm here to
slaughter, I'm here to kill,build my army and make myself
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stronger.
That's how he is in the manga.
But in the anime they want tochange to kind of heavily focus
more down on he's the hero.
He's going to show up at thelast minute to help out, he's
going to be that person to stillbe helping and try to reduce as
many casualties as possible.
And they make it to where hischaracter is more focused into
that aspect.
And they make it to where hischaracter is more focused into
that aspect, but then kind oflike at the end, towards the end
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, like at the very end of thefinale, where he walks.
Does the fucking king's walkAll his whole?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
army.
Oh yeah, the way he likesummons all the shadows and all
that shit, it's like, oh on,some gang gang type shit.
Hey, what up?
Playboy?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Welcome to the
podcast.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
What's up Playboy?
What's up man?
I'm Norm Leiter.
We got busy at work.
I'm here though Happens.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But yeah, so I will
back you up on the change into
that one.
However, I'm going to put my10-4 hat because I think and I
agree with some people saying tothis, I'm putting my tinfoil
hat onto this one.
The reason they changed themedia broadcasting one is
because right now there's abunch of issues going on in
Japan about stuff about mediacoming out and them immediately
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suppressing it, and that'ssomething that's still happening
here in America too.
I think it doesn't want to putinto the aspect of oh, the
government knows what's going on, but they purposely only
letting us see so much, there'sonly so much, feeding us so much
.
I do feel is one of thosemoments that, like it's going to
be a minor change, no one'sgoing to think too much into it,
but I'm that person that doesno anyway like you don't.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You don't even have
to tell me that it is more lines
of okay, they're being moreobvious about it now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
So other thing about
it now.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So other thing about
it is to exchange um to the
fights.
Yeah, so Ghetto was supposed tohave his ass whipped twice.
First thing he was into itwhile he was getting his ass
handed to him by Jim.
He was supposed to have thatone punch, that moment every
person has when they go upagainst like Tom, and One Punch
man, that moment of like I seedeath, I'm about to die.
Oh my god, I am about to die.
That thing that actuallyhappens together when he's
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fighting Chih-Wu.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Actually that fight
ended kind of like the way they
try to stop that one fightbetween Midoriya and Todoroki in
my Hero.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The giant ice go
through yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
One change that I
want to say some of the biggest
changes, but I absolutely lovedit in the fight.
But this is one of those onesthat it's a big, big change into
this veru can have the abilityto do whatever power, whoever he
consumes, just like thechimeric and just like
chimerians.
And if I'm going to go intothat, it's damn near carbon copy
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, but you know what, they stilldid it right.
I don't care, I think they didfantastic.
Damn near a carbon copy, butyou know what?
They still did it right, Idon't care, I think they did
fantastic.
Even as a carbon copy, they dida good job.
They blatantly told you it wasa copy and still did a good job.
That says something that'salmost on the same status as
Eddie Murphy.
As Eddie Murphy, his mostfamous stand-up is an exact copy
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of Red Fox, but he did.
His most famous stand-up is anexact copy of Red Fox, but he
did it so fantastically thatyou're just like I can't do
nothing but applaud.
It feels about the same nowhold on.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Koki, I'm glad you
brought that up because Playboy,
I am glad you came on to theshow because I know how you feel
about the Chimera and Art andHunter Hunter.
How are you feeling about SoloLeveling Season 2?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Okay well, so it took
me, oh, one second.
It took me, like it took me, acouple of episodes within the
fight with the ants to realizethe like, the similarities,
because, okay, for one, theseants and then the whole king ant
(29:22):
shit oh, you're kind of goingthe king ant eating his mom too
yeah, I think you muted.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm calling up
because I'm probably at work, so
I get it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Oh yeah, okay well,
I'll go through real quick.
But yeah, so some of the thingsto understand.
He can copy abilities.
He never did an ice abilityinside the mall.
That's never happened.
However, I love how they addedthat in the anime.
It plays so fantastic.
It shows that this king hasfantastic.
It shows that this king hasdiversity.
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It shows that he really wastrying what he could in the
fight to really pull out all thestops, type of thing.
But there were some things thatI didn't like, like I already
mentioned before about himrunning away constantly.
That did not happen.
It was one time at the very end.
It was when you realized okay,at this point, tactical retreat
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is now my only option.
I've exhausted every otheroption into it.
Now, the other thing about itis they do have a lot of
monologue, like internalmonologue, with the end game.
He thinks a lot about what'shappening.
Most of what he's thinking iswho the fuck is this guy?
How is he so goddamn strong?
What the fuck is happening?
He does have moments where he'sthinking I think I should run
(30:44):
away, but then he immediatelysilences that because he's like
no, I'm the king, I am peak andwe have a perfect cell moment of
I'm the perfect being Can'tnobody be above me, type shit.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Maroon was on that
thing, yeah actually.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Maroon yes, maroon
didn't have that moment.
Maroon was slightly similarwith Cell, but he didn't have
that moment as Cell and Barryhad cause.
Cell and Barry both had thatmoment of where, oh shit, I'm
about to lose.
Nah, hold on, we got to dosomething, like those two.
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That's the reason why I do agreethat Beru fits more with the
Celle lineup, because with Beruand the Mamba at least Beru
literally, as Kofi Gassi said,yes, he had those moments of oh,
I need to run, but he shookthat off and was like nah, nah,
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nah, nah, nah, I'm perfection, Igot this, I can do this, I can
do this.
But then every time he wouldget stopped at it.
Then I thought comes back to Ineed to run.
It's looking like I need to run, but he would shake it off.
There was a difference andthat's the reason why I say I
literally gave them only alittle grace with the whole
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thing of.
I gave them a little gracebecause, yeah, I know where
you're planning off of, but hewas not that scared he was.
He was literally willing tothrow hands to the bit, to the
bitter end, once it got to whereit's, the point where his only
other option as far, as far as,eventually, even winning was to
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retreat Was y'all didn't have tomake From killing instinct
doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That was the point.
Oh, and also one other thingtoo, as well as the fight, and
in that same fight was themoment when, like you said, he
goes ultra instinctive thing.
They added an anime trope thatwas not actually in the original
manga.
So one of the funniest thingsabout it remember one of the
most climactic scenes, and thisspecific scene spiked so much
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controversy Because people werelike, oh, the king was about to
kill Jinwoo, the claws was rightthere to his eye and then
Jinwoo just magically gets anupgrade, because that's not what
happened in the Marvel.
Funny enough, when Jinwoo hitthe one of his first special
attacks against the ant King, heimmediately upgraded to to
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mutilation.
So, unlike what winds uphappening is where genuine gets
mutilation right before he'sdying.
That's the anime only trope.
That only happened in anime.
Yeah, then it was never about tomake it more exciting, because
they felt like so I'm not toomad on that one because, like
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you said, it's to make the animemore exciting.
It's to make it to be like okay, this is a fight, we need to
drag it out.
The story gets to the pointvery quick.
The manga speeds through veryquickly.
You get through like fightswithin like five or six pages in
the manga, which is unheard offor a lot of anime and a lot of
manga.
They drag that shit out all thetime but no, in the manga way
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it gets straight to the point.
So when it gets to the anime,they have to drag it out a
little bit, make it seem like,okay, let's put them on more
even grounds, type of thing.
But the two biggest things tounderstand that's why I also say
they really hold the ant king,they hold barrel.
So the second ass whooping thatgodo was supposed to have was
when he fought against Vero.
We just see that, like you said, it happened off screen.
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Talos already mentioned that ithappened off screen.
This is one of the biggestthings that's frustrating and
why that scene was alsoimportant.
Aside from one, it stillshowcases that the dude was
strong.
They did mention this pointthat he knew he was not on par
with Jinwoo, because he evensaid I've only ever felt one
presence so overpowering likethis, and that was when.
And then it flashed to Jinwoo.
(35:01):
They did that invisible moment.
Instead of saying his name, itjust showcased the thing.
It's pretty funny.
But the other thing about it isthis Beru got injured in that
fight because Goro was stillstrong.
But the reason that scene wasimportant is because and this is
something they completely tookout of the anime Beru was just
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like Jinwoo, as in what I meanis Beru leveled up from fighting
Godo.
Beru was, in technicality,another player in the system and
that's why he was able torecognize so much stuff from
Jinwoo.
But he realized it was entirelytoo much to do.
(35:46):
It was way too powerful.
But they completely cut thatout and that's the reason why
when he tries to bring Beru intothe system, beru immediately
starts off as a general rank,because he was another player.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Why would you cut
that?
Okay, so Beru, technically, isnot a player as much as a lot of
folks and I know it ain't justyou, coach Gosselin, that think
that A lot of people in theReddit post was like, oh no,
beru and Goj were players, thereare other players too.
No, no, no, not ghetto, no, no,no.
(36:23):
The thing is.
The thing is they're notplayers, they're strong.
Don't get me wrong, and I'mgoing to use my example.
I'm going to use myself as anexample here.
When I do D&D, think of me asthe system.
The system picks players,that's y'all.
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That's those people that playin the D&D.
The monsters that are producedby the system range and vary
based upon the player.
Them range and vary based uponthe player.
The reason that Barry was asstrong as he was was because,
for one, it already had thenecessary building blocks.
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It already had necessarybuilding blocks to get that
strong, based upon the fact that, way before Jinwoo was around,
they lost that raid Because thatraid bust open the first time
around and they couldn't killthose ants.
They lost that raid.
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Therefore, it made it wherethat was no more than an ant
nest.
So they had time to recuperate,build up upon the powers and
everything nest.
So they had time to recuperate,build up upon the powers and
everything else.
So that part and then thesystem, as You'll learn to come
find out Was manipulating A lotof things.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The system has
manipulated.
What do you mean?
Like those red gates?
Like it only happened toredgate when he would walk in.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Oh, it's a lot of
stuff.
I'm not going to spoil it.
However, y'all read and you'llunderstand that, because of the
way the Monarchs and stuff were,a lot of things get manipulated
.
A lot of things get manipulated.
So that aside, right, thataside.
So I'm back to it Because Iwant to hand this back to
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Kogatsu and I want to hand itback to.
Playboy when I tell y'all thatIn the case of Beru, with Beru
being, beru was as strong as hewas.
As strong as he was as strongas Sun Jin Woo when Sun Jin Woo
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was Just fighting the Ants Notants, but the elves.
So if Sun Jin Woo had foughthim, then it would have been a
lot of different fights.
However, kamu, because SungJoon-woo had a chance to go
through and fight other thingsfor getting the Beru and leveled
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up Extremely.
Yeah, so that's the reasoningon that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Now I'll hand it back
over to you.
Okay, because the thing aboutit is, the reason that Everyone
has this speculation into it Isbecause of the fact that we see
that he does Technically levelup in that fight when he fights
Godo, and so you're just like yohold on a second.
So if he's actually, if he getsmore power For the fight, then
(39:35):
yeah, automatically as soon ashe's another player wait, this
is something crazy and say whywould you cut that out?
By the way, it still showssomething.
Okay, that shows moremanipulation of the system.
Ass.
We already see enough where,when monsters and evil in the
demon girl, the demon princess,new princess, cuz you know her
dad's new king now at the gymwill be the demon monarch One is
up trying to answer yourquestion.
(39:57):
If it's too deep of a question,everything starts glitching and
resetting.
It's like you ask too manyquestions.
Jim, just fight.
You don't need to ask noquestions, just fight, just get
stronger.
Don't worry about that.
But Jim still got thatintelligence.
He's like I know this questionI'm supposed to ask, but you're
not giving me the answers.
I see, but also, but you're notgiving me the answers.
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I see, um, but also um.
Yeah, those are some of thebiggest things that have changed
.
Some little minor things thatwound up changing was, uh, jenna
hitting the tv and gettingupset and throwing off to her
room.
That was actually the mom thatdid that because she was really
worried and wanted to make sureeverything's okay and I don't
want to spoil into it, but youknow she also doesn't want
Jinwoo to be a hunter because ofhis dad, and even though they
did confirm that Il-Hwan whoshows up, whoops that one S
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class like it was nothing and hefinally makes it back to Korea.
Yes, jinwoo's dad yeah, it'snot a spoil, it's already been
there.
They already announced it inthe show.
But yeah, that's a whole storywith him.
I'm excited to see what's goingto happen with him.
I want to see how they do this,but I'm kind of concerned
because, with how much they'remaking certain changes, it kind
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of makes me wonder what else isgoing to be changed.
Are we still going to kind oflike really still follow the
story, or is this going to beanother big shift?
And I'm hoping that's not thecase because it's like just
nervous.
Last thing is this is kind offunny thing.
If you ever seen such aleveling, it's hilarious.
I watched that before watchingseason two and I should not have
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because it ruined a bunch ofthe fights for me, because I
could not do nothing but laughlike when the um, not the demon
king, but the big giant reddemon, the one that was like
super fast and stuff they had,did a whole play thing where it
was uh he was, he was named KingKendrick.
He was thinking, not like us,while trying to beat on you,
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okay, anyway, but no, otherwiseit gives us real quick.
My rating is it's obviouslystill 10 out of 10.
It's fantastic.
Even with some of the changesinto it, it still maintains the
highest rating.
I still will go back andre-watch this.
They definitely upgraded fromthe Icarus to Blood Red in fight
Icarus fights.
I will still go back and watchthat damn Tekken Rage Art combo
(42:16):
that he did in case to.
It was funny as hell.
But otherwise, yeah, I meangoing back and watching some of
these fights.
Tusk is like probably myfavorite shadow, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
He left a good
impression on me for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's my last little
change.
This is one that was prettyinteresting.
So in the the manhwa they cutthis one out too.
In the manhwa you see that tuskdoes wind up like fighting
against ants, but he's kind ofprotecting everyone.
So funny enough is that jin whowinds up telling him hey, your
priority is to protect theses-class heroes, these sClass
(42:55):
hunters.
If any of them get hurt, eventhe slightest bit, I will never
summon you again, the fuckingdude.
Yeah, he actually says thatshit in the article.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I mean, to be fair,
he did tell Iron I'm like, don't
make me regret adding you on,but okay, yeah, in a way he kind
of reminds me of Paul fromPokemon to where I'm like, bro,
I can get rid of you anytime Iwant to.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
What gets me is the
fact of how powerful Iron was,
even though he was born from anA-class hero.
Iron is strong as shit being anowl.
Considering the fact thatJinwoo has clearly wound up
going against other, I don'twant to spoil it, but there's a
fight that comes up that makesyou really question how strong
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he really is.
You're like, holy shit, wait asecond.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
It's going to get to
a point where Jinwoo's like damn
, do I actually have to try now?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Oh no, not at all,
jinwoo.
The only reason he tries isbecause it's anime.
Only In the Marvel he damn nearnever tries.
There's only one fight.
I haven't gotten that far yet,but my, I'm understanding.
There's only one fight.
That he actually loses actuallydoes happen.
He loses a fight, but that's it.
(44:27):
Oh no, it just really makes youquestion it.
This, a class hero, was reallyplaying to the best of his own
ability.
It's like the hell Because theFatal Warriors, even though they
level up with Chin-Mu, but it'sstill one of those moments
that's just like was that dudeactually a lot more powerful
(44:48):
than he let on?
Was it just that he was muchmore of a coward?
Was that really it?
Because Iron is dumb?
He's just the dumb brute.
He didn't do nothing, but justsmash things and have fun with
it.
He's the true D&D barbarian,like literally.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yes, he is the true
D&D barbarian.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Meanwhile, with Baru.
I'm kind of impressed that Baruwas like the first shadow to
speak.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Okay, so I'm going to
tell y'all about that one real
quick, because they kind ofswitched that up too.
Barry didn't learn to speakUntil he ate the hunter.
But the way they did it, theychanged it around to where he
learned to speak From.
He learned to speak from Eatingthe Queen.
(45:35):
He learned to speak from eatingthe queen and see, like I was
like no, that's not how thatwent.
That's not how that goes, likewe are not all right language.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's what I got
gotcha boy boy.
You got anything you want toadd on to all this language from
that one.
That's what I got Gotcha BoyBoy.
You got anything you want toadd on to all this shit.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah, let me get out
the kiss on that, bro Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I feel that.
But yeah, man, like whatKukigatsu was saying, it's still
a 10 out of 10, even though Ifigured with the Marmora there
might be some differences.
But hey, man, it was stillentertaining for what it was.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
You know, see the
fight, I'm not gonna lie
Watching Solo leveling from likeepisode one.
That's not what the fuck Iexpected.
Like I ain't expecting nothinglike that.
They smell with the red andblue.
Listen, y'all don't understand.
I was just smoking.
I was kind of I started to helpthem, the shit already in my
(46:45):
knees, so like when the fightstarted, bro, and they went to
just throwing hands and likebuddy eyes with the twitch and
trying to follow that shit.
That's exactly what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
That part, that's
exactly what the fuck it was
like that part.
That's why I love it.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
The choreography, the
animation of it all, yeah
because it really puts you there, it shows the intensity of the
fight, it shows from theirperspective what the fuck it
looks like.
But then they go to thecameraman point of view because
you know nobody gets the camera,so the cameraman's going to.
So you know nobody gets thecamera get.
He come by, look, turn aroundwith the flip hands, come down a
little bit.
(47:23):
Now you feel me.
That goes wow.
But um, honestly though, betweenthe kind of go back on for what
y'all was saying as far as likethe camera and art and, uh,
mirroring, um, actually I do seesimilarities there slightly,
because you know the wholeisland, the sun and being the
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king and being the strongest,the most perfect personification
of you know, the strongest, orwhatever.
Yeah, and then like, but see,with Hunter x Hunter, though
they had like parallels versusthe main characters and Meruem
as to Gon getting closer to amonster as Meruem getting closer
(48:09):
to a human because peoplebonded with old girl, but here
it's just more like a missionbetween the two.
Like, I ain't gonna lie, jinwookind of came and like, like you
say, like it was one sided inthe moment.
The anime does make this shit,like like, honestly, the
choreography made the entirething.
(48:30):
But, um, I don't even know whyI was doing this shit.
Man, I'm just like the fight,the fight itself.
It probably peed for me.
I'm not gonna lie.
That shit gotta be like one ofthe best animated fights in my
opinion.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah it was gonna be
like on some but it's definitely
up there it was like on somelate Naruto, naruto Shippuden.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
You know like at the
point where like say, for
instance, I want to say Narutoand Sasuke and Boruto versus you
know those people like I forgot, like we're gonna review Boruto
and I'll remember anyways, buty'all know who I'm talking about
.
Right, where it's like theywere like um, scrapping against
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this one dude, and it was likethere was like beelining all
over the place.
Yeah, that moment where they'relike what's the animation
budget?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yes, exactly, yeah, I
ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Solo level is snap.
They've been snapping sinceseason two.
My favorite fight, aside fromhim and Bero, was him and Snow
Ember.
That was a good ass fight.
Oh hell yeah.
I just like the way they didhim and Bero with the lights and
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the speed, because the showcaseit's like he did get faster.
Oh hell yeah, he's going to win.
If you do bullshit in themiddle of a fight and you OP,
you just sat here and blitzedthe whole S-Rank.
Oh, not to mention.
I also noticed I don't know ify'all pointed this out, but when
he was fighting Jinwoo in thebeginning, he had got mad and
popped a bunch of ice from theground and I want to say he took
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that from.
I forgot what he named outsideoutside the cage the nigga with
the ice pouch.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, because he also
has a strong.
He has a smelling ability, justlike Cha does.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
Yeah, now I'm talking
about the way the ant had used
his ability.
The ant used that man's ice.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
But he did not do
that in the monro whatsoever,
but I think it was a really niceaddition.
Oh, he didn't do that in themonologue whatsoever, but I
think it was a really niceaddition.
Oh, he didn't do that in thehome.
Nope, not at all.
That's an anime-only thing, butI really think it was a
fantastic anime-only thing,honestly.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
Personally Okay.
So it kind of changed theperspective of what I was
thinking, man.
But, like you say, it was whatmade the fight go on for better,
but he didn't do anything likethat again to make the fight go
on for better.
But he didn't do anything likethat again.
He just did some random ass ice, but I'm like pretty sure he
stole that from somebody he justkilled.
But okay, I expected to seemore stuff like that.
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Now, if he was doing thingslike that, I feel like the fight
would have been a little bitbetter.
He was using the abilities ofthe people who just killed them
probably would have gave him alittle bit more, but that shit
didn't happen to my mom, so Ididn't see that.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
If I can mention one
last thing, fellas, I need you
to either correct me or back meup onto this one.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
I need your input.
So there's an issue going onright now Virginia's necromancy
ability.
Some people are saying it'sslavery, but then some people
are countering it.
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
I ain't got time for
all that this is legit.
I ain't got time for all that.
They must not know whatnecromancy actually is anyway.
So I don't have that time withthat luxury.
I ain't got time for all that.
Like, if you don't know whatnecromancy is at this current
point in time and I do mean thiswholeheartedly if you don't
know what necromancy is legit,you need to go and sit your head
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and fuck down some goddamnworld.
Like no one no one and I mean noone has that literal goddamn
time of like you doing the most.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
So some people have
already started arguing against
it using the evidence of the elf, the elf king, the ice elf king
.
Because with him specifically,no matter how much Jinwoo tried
to make him arise, he did notswear loyalty.
He did not want to swearloyalty to Jinwoo, he didn't
care.
So that's why he resisted.
But it also goes back withEgris.
(53:00):
It took three tries for him toget Egris and after his second
try he had that whole monologuewhere he was like you can either
continue to be here with anempty throne or you can come
serve me and we can go ahead andfight together and do more
together.
I need you as much as I feellike you need me.
And that little monologueconvinced Egress that you know
(53:22):
what.
I'm going to go along with youbecause I feel like we're going
to have some great battles ahead, which of course they still do,
which of course they still do.
So I think the last examplecomes in the news episode that
just dropped today during ourtime recording recording the
same day as the 13th episodedropped.
So when you listen to it, it'sjust whatever it's now with
Bihon, with the guy as thehealer and the fact that he
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willingly was like I brought youin, but it's like he told me I
could hear him telling me use mypower.
And after he used it, then hewas like okay, I released this
resurrection and he released itbecause it's not slavery.
So I fully agree with you,talis.
That's why I figured she wasgoing to back me up on this one.
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But I'm like that is a load ofnonsense.
These people willingly aredoing this.
Whether it was like you bestedme in battle, you cleared it,
like Barry said you are king andhe willingly goes.
Jinwoo was ready to walk awayand he said no, before you walk
away, give me a name.
I don't quite remember yourname.
You beat me.
I will take whatever name yougive me.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah.
I'm like didn't they getconsent?
Didn't each of them give Genuconsent to like yes, yeah.
So I'm like, were y'all notpaying attention to the show?
God damn it People.
I swear to God.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Once again, you don't
know what a necromancer can do.
A necromancer doesn't have tohave consent, and he's not a
normal necromancer At that.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
It's like, bro, like
he they're Using well, he's not
even Using dead bodies per seit's more like the shadows, uh,
more like their spirit in a way.
So it's like what, this spirit?
No, no, it's not evenmanipulation, really, but like,
still, though it's like it's notslavery, because, I don't know,
(55:27):
people just will pick up anyexcuse to just, you know, like,
be like, oh, oh, oh, this, this,this, and I'm like, um, no, I
don't think that's what'shappening here, but nah, you
(55:47):
know, that's all I had to sayabout Soul 11.
I said what I was gonna say inthe beginning.
Y'all good Like Talos.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm
good Playboy, you good.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm
fine.
Nah, I feel you man.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Well, you know what?
We're just gonna go ahead andclose it out.
Thank you for listening to usTo the end.
Be sure to check us out when wedo the Dirty News special.
I'm gonna do a new thing calledAnime Lightning, where I'm gonna
do reviews like this, but like,really quick, kind of like what
I did in the beginning, it'sgonna be like 10, at least 10
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anime that maybe got flew underthe radar, but they're pretty
good in their own right.
It's just that let's be realcompared to shit like soul
leveling, sentai, red isekai, uhsakamoto days like they're not
gonna get as much recognition incomparison.
So, to be fair, I'm gonna like,I'm gonna check them out, I'm
gonna do a review, I'm gonnatell y'all how I feel about them
(56:52):
and we're gonna do sakamotodays uh sentai rei isekai and
all those other shits.
Like, if I don't do it onanimate lightning, then chances
are I'm gonna do a full reviewon it later.
So, with that being said, y'allgo ahead and have yourself a
good morning, good afternoon,good evening, good whatever time
it is in your area.
(57:13):
But ultimately, I want you totake it easy.