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A warm Sunday in LA turns into a ride through horror history, baseball chaos, and the strange ways culture sticks in our heads. We start with simple life stuff—fall colds, hot-shower cures, gaming binges, and that stubborn urge to buy the Texas Chainsaw Massacre PS5 game—then click into gear with a gripping breakdown of Netflix’s Monster: The Ed Gein Story. We trace how Ed Gein’s crimes shaped Psycho, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Silence of the Lambs, and talk about what the series gets right: the psychology, the casting, and the uneasy line between truth and myth. If you love horror or you grew up renting VHS slashers, this segment will hit every nostalgic nerve while giving you new context.

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Joe and Thee Gooch (00:19):
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(00:40):
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Um it's fall.
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Wow, that's a lot of I almostlost my breath right there,
Gooch.

(02:08):
You've been gooch.
I've been pretty good.
I've been pretty good.
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
So yeah, I almost lost mybreath, dude.
I got um all the allergies Igot right now.
So um well, considering howsmall your body is, I imagine
you have small lungs too.
I know I I figured I got tohave lungs as a horse, huh?

(02:28):
But but um, yeah, dude.
So how you been, Gooch?
Uh been pretty good.
I just coming down, gettingover a cold.
Oh, you serious?
You too?
Yeah, yeah.
I just I just had a cold likelast month last month ago, so
god.
Well, see, when I get a cold,of course, the newer generations

(02:50):
would probably call itCOVID-19.
But anyways, when I get a cold,I try to get rid of it as fast
as possible.
Right.
Because last week, Monday, Istarted feeling it, like, oh
shit, you know, the sinus startgetting dry, you know, your
throat, you know, like you weredoing some nasty stuff with your
throat.
And then by Tuesday, that'swhen I started feeling it more,

(03:13):
right?
Mm-hmm.
I just said, fuck it.
You know, I started drinking abunch of teas, a bunch of tea.
And the one thing that doeshelp me a lot is the is the
nite time liquid NyQuil.
Oh, it does?
I don't know.
For some reason, that doesn'twork for me, dude.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
It's because you use the cup.
I don't use the cup.

(03:33):
You just drink it like abottle?
Just drink it.
I just put a mouthful like inmy mouth.
God shit.
And then I drink it.
So I did that.
I did that for like I think Idid it for two days, two or

(03:54):
three days.
And by Thursday, I was feelingway better, dude.
Damn.
So I was doing everything wrongthen.
Most likely, yeah.
Oh, and the key thing is too,is to take a hot shower in the
morning and then a hot showerbefore you go to bed.
Because mentally, mentally, Ithink you're just cleaning off
the germs that you have on yourskin, your hands, you know, and

(04:17):
your pores and shit.
And plus all that steam, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, because I noticed thatwhen you take a hot shower, your
mucus comes out, right?
Have you noticed when you takea hot shower a shower?
Yeah, you start, you goteverything's coming out, like
your boogers and all that shit,you know.
Oh shit, man.
Wednesday, I just felt it hard,man.
It's like I felt like I wasdying.

(04:38):
Nothing compares having a manhaving a cold doesn't compare
with women, you know, beingpregnant or giving birth.
Let's just get that out of theway.
Because when we get the cold,we die.
We're dying.
Like, oh my god.
But Wednesday night, dude, thatwas bad.
And then by Thursday, I wasgood.
Oh, really?
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(05:47):
Yeah.
So yeah, good.
So you were sick then, huh?
Yeah, I was sick.
I feel a lot better now,though.
Gosh, I remember when I wassick, and I I still feel
congested, dude, because uh youknow when you I'm singing,
right?
I'm in the car coming out ofwork, and I'm trying to sing
this fucking cool song, and youknow, it's always sometimes, and
there's some other songs, andyou could feel like like you

(06:08):
know, cracking already.
Like I can't because I used todo it better before I got out
before I was sick, yeah, but nowI can't do it because you know
I'm still getting over thecongestion that I have right
now.
I'm all and all that stuff.
A lot of people, like I tellthe the boys, right?
I tell the kids, like a lot ofpeople find it hard to believe
that Joel, when we were younger,he was a pretty good singer

(06:28):
when we were growing up.
Yeah, yeah.
I know it's kind of funny outthere, but uh it seems funny.
I mean, you look at me likeman, this guy looks like a like
a like a clown.
I don't think he'll look like asinger, you know what I'm
saying?
But uh yeah, I we used to Iused to sing, so oh shit, I
can't wait.
Oh, we got a musical family,right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
There's a bunch of musicaltalents in the family.

(06:50):
Yeah, our family's uh it's uhour one of our cousins, uh she
know he know I mean he knows howto play piano real good, you
know.
So and it's all run from theblood, too.
But the only thing that ourfamily, well, our family and I,
including ourselves, we're weweren't too ambitious, you know,
to do it, to go up there andand you know, perform, you know.
That was the only thing aboutus, you know.

(07:11):
But but again, you know.
Yeah, you're right.
So what did you so what did youdo all day, Gooch?
You know what, bro, I wassupposed to go to work.
You know, speaking aboutambition, I was supposed to go
to work today, I was all hypedup, yeah, I'm gonna get this job
done.
Mm-hmm.
Right, you know.
But I took Little Bearyesterday to uh work, right?

(07:34):
And he he's working thegraveyard shit at the local
Walmart.
And uh turned it turned turnedout that uh he didn't have to
work last night.
Oh, no shit.
So he went there to work orwell he went to work and then uh
because you know co corporateAmerica they're relying too much
on the AI bullshit.
So supposedly Walmart nowrelies on the AI to schedule

(07:59):
people to have them come herefor some reason.
Well it accidentally LittleBear was Little Bear was
scheduled last night, so hethought they allowed him to work
for about a couple hours andthen he he called me.
I was asleep.
He called me around midnight or12 30 to go pick him up.

(08:20):
Uh-huh.
And then uh came home anddidn't go back to sleep about
two o'clock in the morning, justwatching TV, and I just said
fuck it.
I'll just stay home.
I'll finish that job tomorrow.
As long as you get your dayson, like you don't feel like
going to work and shit likethat.
Yeah.
Today was one of them.

(08:41):
I just said, I didn't wake uptill like almost ten o'clock in
the morning.
Jeez.
That's a sleep in for me.
That's a good sleep for you,right?
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
But other than that, I gotready and then I went to go
grocery shopping to make dinnertonight and uh was playing video
games all day.
Right.
I'm not I'm not a gamer, I'mnot a gamer per se, because a

(09:04):
gamer will wake up in themorning and start playing games
until they go to sleep and thenthey jerk off and then they go
home or whatever.
Yeah.
Or go to work.
Right.
But what I see there, is thatwhat I think what it is?
Battlefield, is it?
Battlefield 6.
Oh, Battlefield 6.
It just came out.
No shit.
Yeah.

(09:25):
And like again, I'm not like agamer, I'm not gonna claim to be
it, but I love playing it.
You know, when I have freetime, I'll play MLB the show.
And you know, right now I'vebeen hooked on, I've been hooked
on this one since it's new.
Nice! Yeah, getting my assfucking handed to me.
No shit.
But you know, speak speaking ofum PS5, I went, I was uh

(09:51):
Walmart um yesterday, right?
Right after I got out of work,I went straight over to Walmart.
I seen the game uh TexasChainsaw Massacre on PS5 only
for $19, dude.
Oh really?
I wasn't gonna get it.
I was destined to get it.
Should I get it?

Effect (10:05):
Nice!

Joe (10:06):
And I go, oh man, you know, there's so much to to save, you
know.
I don't want to spend anythingright now because you know, my
knowing my fucking ass, I'll befucking spending like crazy, you
know.
I mean, I know I all I knowit's 20 bucks, it's 1999 right
now, the chainsaw.
And it's a good game because Ilooked it up on um YouTube.
Oh, really?
And nice! It's where it lookspretty good because uh you you

(10:27):
could also play the the what'shis name, um Leather Freeze, and
you could also play thevictims, but it's they from what
I heard and uh when I looked itup on YouTube is that um it's
hardly when you want to be theleather freeze, it's hard to get
the leather freeze, you know.
Oh really?
To be to be the uh to be uhleather freeze, and um, yeah.

(10:48):
So I was gonna I'm thinkingbuying it because uh it that's
my favorite horror horror flick.
Oh yeah, that's mine too.
Texas, yeah, yeah.
So I was gonna get it, oh man,should I get it?
I go, man, I hardly don'tfucking pay.
I come home.
I we do the podcast on um onSunday, right?
There's a lot of shit to watch.
We watched the Dodger game justlast week.

(11:08):
You know, they they barely wonagainst the Phillies, you know,
go Dodgers, you know and youknow, when I come home, I don't
I don't I don't hardly play, youknow.
There's always littledistractions here and there, and
then plus we're all into thepodcast.
You know, I don't get to playthat much, you know.
Right.
And I yeah, so I was like, fuckshit.
I mean, hardly don't play.

(11:29):
I mean, you know, why buy it?
But I'll just gonna buy it.
Maybe I'm when I get that senseof urge to go out there.
Oh, you know what?
I'll just gonna play it.
Well, yeah, as soon as we'redone, as soon as we're done with
the show, I'm jumping back onthe game.
I'm gonna oh no shit.
Oh yeah, fucking games got mein.
It's got me in.
I like the Battlefield uhsagas.
Right, right.

Thee Gooch (11:49):
I've been playing Battlefield Fog for the probably
last 15 years, I think 10-15years.
Right.
I remember the first one.
I used to love that one.
But now this one came out,surprisingly enough.
I didn't even know it wassupposed to be coming out, but
I've been stuck on this one.
And speaking of speaking of uhTexas Chainsaw Massacre, oh you

(12:09):
you like watching uh series onNetflix?
Oh, well, Gooch, no, I'm funnythat you mentioned that, dude,
because Oh, if you're gonna talkabout the same show, I'm gonna
talk about I'm way I'm way aheadof you, Gooch, because we're on
okay, all right.
We're on the same page here,Gooch.
Yeah, uh Texas Texas Chainsawis one of my favorite horror

(12:30):
flick, even though from the fromthe 80s and the 70s, well, 70s
and the 80s, and pre the recentones that came out, like the
Leather Fritz and the game.
I was gonna buy it because youknow I'm I love uh Texas
Chainsaw Massacre.
Yeah, yeah.
So I want you to go first.
All right.
I want you to start it offfirst because that was my whole
content today.
So go ahead.

(12:50):
So we came across uh I don't Idon't watch series on Netflix.
Exactly.
It has to be really good for meto catch my eye and stay hooked
on it.
Oh boy, this this this show hasme hooked.
Yeah, it's a it's a Netflixshow series called Monster.

(13:12):
The story of Gaines.
Yeah, Gein.
Gain, yeah.
Gene.
Gane.
Vane or gain?
Gane.
G-E-I-G-E-I.
You know what, Gooch?
I might be somewhere wrong.

Joe (13:30):
I've been wanting to watch this move.
I mean this well, theminiseries since last week, but
I I was watching it the firstepisode, but then I turned it
off because we were watching theDodger game was on.
Okay.
So the Dodger was the Dodgersgames were on all week.
So I didn't get to watch ittill today.
Do you want me to spoil it foryou?
Because I almost watched all ofthem.
I'm like last year.

(13:51):
I already saw the whole thing.
I saw the whole thing.
I saw the whole thing.
I just finished it.
Matter of fact, Gooch, I justfinished it like an hour ago,
actually.
An hour ago.
Nice, nice.
That was why we were.
It was a fucking good movie,dude.
Let me tell you one thing.
Yeah, it's dude.
That shit got me hooked likebad.
Yeah.
So the premise of the show isthe inspiration.

(14:16):
Okay, this guy, Ed Gein, is areal inspiration.
Okay.
So the premise of the show isto show you where the movie
Cycle comes from.
The inspiration of Psycho, theTexas Chainsaw Massacre.

(14:38):
And here's the and here's theand here's and here's the egg.
What's it called?
I'm gonna spill the beans onthis one.
Silence of the lamb and um partof it was the lamb.
So part of it, part of it waswhat is the other one called?
Uh I called it uh The CryingGame.

(14:58):
You know, the crying game?
Yeah, the crying game.
Half of it was part of cryingthe crying game.
But uh yeah, dude, uh it was itwas it was good.
It was good.
I really I really loved it, youknow.
So um I got pictures of it.
Most basically it was mostlyoff Alfred Hitchcock that got
inspired by Ed Gaines, you know?

(15:18):
Right, right.
And that's why, and which Ididn't know that uh Anthony
Perkins was gay or Bi-sexbisexual, you could say.
Uh back in the days it was likereal hidden, so no way
everybody was hidden, hiding inthe closet, you know what I'm
saying?
No, he he was the one that washe was the one that played
Norman in Psycho, right?
Yeah, yeah, uh Anthony Perkins.
He's the card.
Yeah, I didn't know Norman.
I didn't know he was by either.

(15:39):
Yeah, so um it was it was itwas I recommend everybody from
Netflix that uh I mean I'llrecord and anybody, all the
audience to go watch it onNetflix.
Uh it's called uh monsters.
What is it, monster?
The story of Ed Gain.
The story of yeah, Ed Gain orsome shit.
Yeah, let's see it.
Yeah, so yeah, the monster themonster, the Ed Gain story on

(16:04):
Netflix right now.
So yeah, like I guess I have tobe like very interested in
series, right?
I usually jump on these fuckingmovie streams just to watch a
movie or you know whatever.
But for me to be caught in aseries, this one did it for me.
Yes.
I mean uh and I knew about theuh Ed Gain already a long time

(16:27):
because I I was a I was a fan ofI'm the fan of um Texas
Chainsaw and Massacre, right?
And basically all that um likewe just mentioned, uh Psycho and
Texas Chainsaw, Silence of theLamb and The Crying Game was
basically from him.
So the from Hollywood, yeah,they got all that and twisted
all different, all combined inone, you know what I'm saying?

(16:49):
So it was it was it was apretty it was a very, very good
series.
I fucking loved it.
Yeah, yeah, I loved it.
He was born on July 26, 1984,Ed Gain.
You know, a serial killer from1906.
1906.
Huh?
Oh yeah, I mean my bad.
My I I got I I mixed up.
I'm I'm looking at the wrongfucking notes.

(17:11):
He was born August 27, 1906,and died 1984.
No, he died on July 26, 1984.
Yeah, so yeah, he was uh wellhis full name is Edward Theodore
Gain, was born in La Crosse,Wisconsin and all that stuff,
and he was in things like that,you know.

(17:33):
So yeah, I I I I I fuckingenjoyed the movie a lot.
I mean the series again, and uhit was real good.
I like the ending, it waspretty good, it was awesome.
You know, well, don't spoil theending for me yet.
I haven't seen the ending.
Oh, you haven't seen it?
And you don't want to do it uhwhen I saw this actor that was
playing the role, I thought atfirst I thought it was John
Cena, to be honest.
Oh, really?

(17:54):
Yeah, I thought it was JohnJohn Cena.
Yeah, it kind of looks likehim, but well, that's the actor
I get right here.
Let's see, hold on.

Effect (18:07):
Damn it.

Joe (18:08):
Okay, this is the actor, okay?
Yeah, um the act the actor'sname is Charlie Hunnam.
And pretty good act actor,dude.
He look it kind of looks likehim too, dude.
Yeah, uh he look he looks likethe um the Ed Gain.
And uh I was like amazing.
Damn, he looked like him, dude.
Okay, I'll show you another.
I'll show a picture of the realpicture of uh Ed Gain right

(18:29):
now.
That's him right there.
That's the real Ed Gain.
See it?
Yeah, can you see it?
Can you see it?
Yeah, that's him right there.
And you know, it does look likehim.
I had to look up the name EdGain, right?
I had to look, I had to lookhim up because he sounded
familiar, and it everything waslike it's not, but I just didn't

(18:51):
get the series when I startedwhat when we started watching
it.
I didn't get the series likewhat's the fucking premise?
So I had to look him up.
And then I this photo thisphoto right here looks exactly
like him.
It does, dude.
And then this photo looksfamiliar, and the creators of
this movie, uh, this mini-seriesis from the uh what's his name?
Uh Jeffrey Dahmer, the theseries, oh and the Menendez

(19:14):
brothers come in.
They're the creators of theMenendez Brothers.
That one's a pretty good show,too.
The Dahmer mod and um yeah andthe Menendez brothers.
That was pretty good.
So they're the creators whocreated the monster the Ed's Ed
Gain story.
So yeah, this is the actorright here.
He but he made he did a good heplayed good on the uh on the

(19:35):
role, dude, because uh theschizophrenic part and all that
stuff.
And you know what?
I like it because it wentthrough his mind, dude.
Uh it game, you know, right.
Basically, it went through hismind.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, how he went, how how howwe how was he feeling and all
that shit.
And it was pretty good.
It was I like the series.
I loved it a lot.
So if you guys love Chainsaw,Texas Chainsaw Massacre out

(19:57):
there, guys, you will love thisshow.
Okay, this series.
You know, it's a mini-series.
I remember being first.
Yeah, right.
I remember uh mom introducedintroduced me to uh Texas
Chainsaw Massacre back in the80s.
I want to say I was around 83.
83, yeah.
I mean, where we used wherewe're able to go rent movies at

(20:19):
uh you know little corner storeswith VHS, local beetle stores,
yeah.
Yeah, she found it, she wasexcited, and she brought it
home.
And I had never watched it, Inever even heard.
I was a kid for love's sake,you know?
Yeah, yeah, and then I watchedit and it's like fuck, what is a
badass movie?
Remember it's been my favoritesince.
Yeah, so I I I barely finishedit today.

(20:40):
It was very, very, very good.
And you can't, um, you're notgonna believe it how he died and
all that stuff, so it's prettycrazy, dude.
He dies, oh she's he doesn'tknow.
Well, no, he's not gonna liveforever.
I mean, come on.
I just told you he died July26, 1984.
Well, yeah, but I didn't knowthey were gonna show it in the

(21:02):
series.
Um, but no, it's a it's a verygood series, guys.
I will recommend you guys to gowatch it.
And it's on Netflix right now,playing on Netflix.
Very good, bro.
And if you guys love theChainsaw Massacre, yeah.
And again, I actually I didn'tI didn't realize what I was
clicking on, it just lookedinteresting.
The the cover and I pressed itand we watched it.

(21:23):
I was like, fuck.
What episode were you in?
Well, I knocked out, soprobably maybe five or six.
Five or six?
I have to I have to check itout because I knocked out and
then I woke up again, you know.
Okay.
It's not boring, it's just thatyou're just sleeping, tired
from work, right?
Oh yeah, yeah.
I got you.

(21:44):
Um yeah, dude.
I was I've been wanting towatch this series because I
already knew it was uh it wasabout the um chainsaw all mixed
up together and Scientists ofthe Lamb and Cycle.
And it's crazy how AlfredHitchcock made that story.
Well, it was a book before.
Right about it was a book, uhCycle, right?

Thee Gooch (22:05):
Yeah.

Joe (22:06):
And and that well, it was a book about uh what's his name?
Uh Ed Gain eight gains already,but um, so they wanted to make
it like a thriller and shit likethat.
So and that's when uh it was ait's a good series.
It's a good series, yeah.
I I don't want to spoil it.
I don't want to spoil it, butum I will I'll recommend us to
watch it.
You know, it's real good.
Because yeah, you're right.

(22:26):
I'm not into watchingmini-series, you know.
Yeah, you know, but I like Ialready knew this was about you
know the you know those theinspiration of uh Texas Chainsaw
and all that, so that's when Iwatched it.
Because I'm a huge fan of umTexas Chainsaw, Leather Freeze.
And when I I got to the partwhere they did show uh when they
were filming uh Silence of theLamb.

(22:47):
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, they don't showthey don't show penis or
anything like that.
No, they show a lot ofman tosh.
They show a lot of man tosh.
Nice butts, too, by the way.
I mean, no, no homo, nicebutts.
They have nice butts.

(23:07):
You have to admire that.
Not thinking gooch.
Oh my gosh.
He must work out.
Oh, you right?
Oh my gosh, but uh yeah, dude,it was I I mean, it was a real
good series, dude.
I I all I can say is like itwas a good good series, yeah.
I recommend everybody that'swatching.

(23:28):
Highly recommended right now,guys.
Yeah, and then you know whatit's kind of creepy.
One part scared me, dude, to behonest.
Which one?
And um, uh, I can't give itaway.
If it's past the fifth season,you can't tell.
I'm not gonna not gonna tellyou.
I kind of well to me, I don'tknow if I'm uh fucking weak ass
or anything like that, but Ikind of a little flinched there
and shit, you know, because Iwas also now you have to tell

(23:51):
me.
Now you have to tell me.
No, I don't I'm not gonna tellyou.
I mean, I was all into it,dude, because you get into it,
and I just want I just want togo fuck.
I don't know where, you know.
You flinched nowhere.
Well, not flinched, I just Ishook, like, oh shit, you know,
like yeah.
Oh my gosh.

(24:12):
But um, yeah, very good series.
Highly recommend it.
Yeah, that was a pretty prettygood, dude.
I loved it.
You know, I hope um well thecreators, I hope they do another
one.
So I don't know if they did.
I think they did Ted Bundy,dude.
I'm not sure, but I got to lookit up.
Yeah.
I wanna I wanna check out theTed Bundy's.

(24:34):
What's that other one?
They got the clown the huh?
The clown?
Um John Wayne Gacy.
Oh, John Wayne Gacy, yeah,you're right.
I forgot.
They should do one of him.
Yeah, I don't know anythingabout him, but but uh yeah,
dude.
Uh the Ted Bundy score, the theTed Buddy story is probably the

(24:57):
most gruesome one.
I because uh he was uh lookingI'm not gonna tell us I'm you
know I'm already spoiling italready, dude.
Yeah, mention it.
I don't even want to watch itnow because you're gonna sell
over here on the podcast.
I want I want I want people allthe audience to go watch it
because it's really good, dude.
And that's making me want tofucking speak out about it.
So because I'm a it's becauseI'm a huge uh Texas chainsaw

(25:18):
massacre guy, dude.
You know, I seen the the theLeatherface, the the there's a
the what's all it's been aroundfor like the latest, the latest
Texas chainsaw massacre is theone the new one it was the huh?
I don't like that one.
Which one?
Let me see, I'll tell you rightnow.
Which one the the one they hadin Netflix?

(25:40):
I think it actually came out inmovie theaters.
Okay.
Oh, I think I know what youwant you're talking about.
It was uh Leatherface aboutwhen he was a young boy, and
they show him when he's how hestarted growing up as uh
Leatherface.
Because you got Leatherface andyou got Texas Chainsaw Massacre
3D, and you got the Leatherfaceon uh with Jessica Bio.

(26:03):
That's my favorite one.
Oh yeah, I like that one.
My favorite one is the one withuh Texas Chainsaw 3D.
That's my favorite one.
I mean, I like all of them.
I like all of them to behonest.
The latest one, the latestTexas Chainsaw Massacre, I did
not like.
It came out in 2022.

(26:23):
Yeah.
That's the one on Netflix,right?
That's the one that came out onNetflix.
But I didn't like it.
It was horrible.
Like the acting, the one girlcouldn't act.
I mean, not that horror films,I mean, not a lot of horror
films, you know, come out withgood actors or anything and

(26:45):
shit, but you got to at leasttry.
You think they overactedoveracted and shit?
Yeah, dude.
One girl just, oh my god, it'sstupid.
I mean, I like I like them all.
But the Jessica Beale one, thatone, that one has to be one of
my favorite.
Next to the original one.

(27:05):
Yeah, yeah.
With Arlie Hammer comes out onthere as uh the sheriff.
That was a good idea.
He he he did a good sherifftoo, dude.
That one's actually the thereboot, right?
Yeah, that was my favorite onetoo.
Yeah, that was a good one.
Yeah, I re I remember when weused to watch it, and when mom
used to have T uh on TV at thetime, there was no fucking HBO,

(27:29):
that was just on TV cable, youremember?
Oh yeah, the uh the the onewith Jessica Beale?
Yeah, no, the one the old theold classic uh Texas uh Chainsaw
Massacre.
We used to have on TV.
We used to watch it on TV.
Yeah.
Since it's Halloween, everybodyuh Halloween's just around the
corner.
I recommend watching thatseries, so you know.

(27:50):
Now I'm surprised they haven'tcome out with a new Halloween
movie.
They say that there's there wasone coming out next year.
I don't know if it's um, yeah.
Um let me guess, it's gonna bethe daughter or son of Michael
Myers.
Um I'm pretty sure I won't besurprised, you know.
You know, the son of MichaelMyers.

(28:13):
If it does, if it if that'swhat it is, he has some strong
semen.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I mean, how was he born though?
How do he how do he uhcolleague?
How do you I don't know theorigin?
I don't know the origin, yeah.
I don't know the origin ofMichael Myers.
But I'm pretty sure it's gonnabe the if there was another one,

(28:34):
it'll be Michael Myers, therevenge, Michael Myers' son, the
revenge of my father.
How about that?
I'm gonna get you.
Oh look, I'm gonna get you.
He's gonna get him anyways.
When he's wearing a mask, youknow.
Have you heard of one in theoriginal mask?
Uh original Michael Myers?
Oh fucking bad sounds crazy.

(29:01):
Yeah, and the origin the theconcept of Michael Myers' mask
is actually what's his name?
Uh William Shatner's.
William Shatner.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's uh what's his namefrom Star Trek, right?
Captain Star Trek, yep.
Captain Kirk face.
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.

(29:22):
And um, yeah, dude.
So you beat me to it.
I can't believe it.
I already had everything setup, so yeah.
I mean, yeah, that out.
Oh, about the about the show?
Yeah, well, I got a trailerright here.
You guys want to see thetrailer?
You see, folks, this is aperfect example how we we are
the talkers podcast unscripted.

(29:43):
Yeah.
There you go.
So here's the trailer of uhthis great series, Monster, the
Ed Gain story.
Okay, guys.
So here we go.
Where am I lost?
Oh my gosh.

(30:06):
Okay, here we go.

Clip (30:12):
Excuse me.
Yeah.
That smell is worse than ever.
Only a mother could love you.
There's something real darkabout you, Eddie Kate.

(30:41):
Eddie, you're a mess.
Only a mother could love you.

Joe (33:17):
Oh.
Pretty good.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wow.
Oh bye.
That was a good series.
I recommend you everybody to gowatch it.
Go see it right now.
It's on Netflix.
Now playing.

(33:38):
Yeah.
Really good series series.
The what?
Really good series.
Yeah.
And um, say what do you uh whatdo you think about the Dodgers,
Gooch?
They're gonna be in Milwaukeetomorrow.
They're playing with Brewers,huh?
I mean, yeah, I see, I see, Isee of course the Los Angeles

(34:02):
Dodgers and the Blue Jays in theWorld Series.
You see the no shit.
Did the Blue Jays win?
I'm out of touch.
Did the Blue Jays win?
The blue the Blue Jays aregonna start playing right now.
So I'm going for Toronto onthis one.
The Blue Jays versus theMariners, right?
Yeah, the Mariners.
I don't want Mariners to winthis, you know, Seattle.

(34:24):
So I want the Blue Jays to win.
And I think it I think theydeserve to win because it is.
They're gonna play tonight onToronto.
Watch they put that on fuckingTV.
And I can't watch the Dodgers.
Yeah, I know, right?
It is.
All over fucking Prime.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's gonna no shit, dude.

(34:45):
Yeah, they're gonna, it's gonnabe in our channel, it's gonna
be Fox Channel 11.
You know what I guess.
Because see, where I'm at,dude, which is stupid because I
was looking at the channels tobecause it's so I can add
channels to my service, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It would cost me a hundreddollars more a month if I want

(35:08):
to watch the fucking Dodgers.
Oh shit.
That much?
Because it's on TBS and thenCourt TV and it's right.
I was like, I mean, I love theDodgers, that's where I grew up
was Los Angeles, you know.
But I'm not gonna pay a hundredfucking dollars extra a month,
you know.
Yeah, that's true.

(35:28):
That's true.
I'll just I'll just get a goget an AM FM radio and I'll put
it in my head and then just walkaround work with the fucking
radio in my ear.
Yeah, yeah.
But uh yeah, this is that umthat's the way it is, I guess.
I mean, they don't do anythingfor fucking profit, huh?

(35:48):
You know, yeah, but um we werekids, dude.
We used to dad used to justturn the TV on.
Oh look, the Dodgers around.
Yeah, no shit in every channel,dude, too.
Like Angels will be in the nextchannel and channel nine, K
Cal.
We used to be in KCal, and theDodgers will be in channel 11 at
the time, channel 7.
Now you got to go fucking goyour local cable provider and

(36:10):
all that shit.
Fucking sucks.
Stupid now, you got to pay forit now, and you know, I can
watch it on Prime, right?
I can watch it on uh AmazonPrime because it's there and
shit.
But even that's fucking $50 amonth, yeah.
Extra, you know, and like shit,and these people think I am
made out of money.

(36:31):
No shit.
No shit.
And um speaking of which, well,when the the when the Dodgers
uh beat the how you call it thePhillies.
Um okay, and you saw how itwent.
Did you see the game?
Yes, I did.
Okay, you saw the game.

(36:52):
Okay, did you see uh what's hisname?
But what's the highlights?
The highlights.
Did you see the highlights?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
Well, um, now they're sayingthat the Dodgers cheated, you
know?
Of course.
And be well, of course, uh justbecause you're not a friend of
the Dodgers, of course you'regonna say they cheated, right?
Yeah, you know, but uh becauseit's not their team that won,

(37:13):
that's why, you know what I'msaying?
Right.
But well, they're saying thatum Hanson Kim didn't touch his
home plate when he crossed theplate when they, you know, when
they fucked up that error whenyou know when he threw the uh
didn't he go back and touch it?
Yeah, exactly.
He went back and go touch it.
But these uh Philly fans don'tseem to get it, the ball was
still alive.
Some of the uh Phillies ordon't know nothing about

(37:36):
baseball.
It's uh when you throw the theball is still alive once you
throw it and when it's on play.
It's not dead, it's stillalive.
Okay, it's only dead off if thecatcher Yeah.
So if it's only dead if thecatcher already has the ball on
him and cat tags him, the ball'salready dead, it's you know,
he's he's out, right?

(37:57):
Well, they're all saying thatyou know that uh he cheated.
And it's plain simple, he wentback and touched the the home
plate, you know, right?
And they they don't seem tounderstand that maybe some of
them don't get how baseball isthe rules and all that stuff.
He went back.
You have a clip.
Please tell me you have a clip.
Yes, I do have a clip.
And I and after the talk aboutthat, I want to mention the guy

(38:19):
too.
Is uh he says that once theDodgers lose, he's gonna get on
us, he's gonna put us on a spotbecause we're all clowns,
because we're in the in hiscomment section.
He's all like, I'm gonna putyou in the spot.
I got that clip too, so I'mgonna make him talk first, and
then I'm gonna get with it,okay?
Okay, I got the clip for let merespond to about the clown
thing.
Yeah, I'm a clown, but it hasnothing to do with the Dodgers.

(38:42):
Idiot.
Yeah, exactly.
So here's the play, the thereal the instant replay of it,
okay?
Here we go.

Clip (38:54):
PagesM breaks his back, Kirkering, got to find it,
throws to the plate.
Oh my goodness! It throws itaway, and the Dodgers have won.
The Dodgers won!

Joe (39:09):
You can see he goes back to the base.
I want to repeat that again.
So anyone that missed it, herewe go again.

Clip (39:16):
Pages breaks his back, Kurt Ring, got to find it,
throws to the plate! Oh mygoodness! He throws it away, and
the Dodgers have won! TheDodgers won!

Joe (39:29):
You see him?
Did you see him go back?
Yeah, you see him go back.
Okay, okay.
Yes, he did miss the plate.
It says right here.
You see it?
He did miss it.
But to me, it looked like hedid touch it, because you know
the the around the plate.
You could see the black, theblack, the the outline of the
home plate.
Right.
I think he touched the blackpart of the home plate, the

(39:50):
lining around it that surroundsthe home plate.
He kind of like just tapped ita little bit.
Technically, it looked like hehe was safe as well.
You could I don't have a bitterfocus on it, but he looked you
the eye the outlining of thehome plate, it's all black,
right?
And but his TP, his toe fromhis shoe kind of tight touches

(40:12):
the backlining of the homeplate.
Right.
All right.
So I don't know what they'retalking about.
The ball was still alive, itwas not dead, it was on play.
He threw a wild pitch.
He he should have thrown onfirst, everybody knows that.
All right, right.
So, because it was it was likewhat bases loaded?
Yeah, yeah, he would have madean easy play if he wouldn't
throw it on first, okay?

(40:33):
Right, and it was just a wildpitch, and he got nervous, he
got confused, or whatever ithappened, but that's how the
that's the game, you know.
But the thing is with thePhillies, listen here, Phillies
fans.
The catcher never hadpossession of the ball.
Wow.
And the pitcher threw it to thecatcher widely, wildly, wild

(40:56):
pitch, right?
Wild pitch.
So and the catcher never hadit, and the dodger did go back
to touch the base.
End of story.
Yeah, and you know what?
They were so like shocked, theyyou know, they should have
still because they when theywhen he did that wild pitch,
they stood down like this, dude.
Like, and they didn't realizethe catcher didn't realize that

(41:17):
Song Ming missed the plate.
Song Young Kim missed theplate.
And they would have got thatball, they could have got him
out, you know.
But they didn't think fast,they just right away us
speculate that they, you know,won.
But that's that's when SongYuan Kim came back to the plate
and touched the on plate, youknow.
So just take the loss, feeling.

(41:39):
Yeah, just better luck nextseason.
I mean, I know if the Dodgerswould have lost, I mean, would
have fucking would have beentaking it too.
And you guys would be talkingshit.
Oh, they couldn't they chokeand this and that.
They would have been talkingshit.
Like this fucking clown.
All right.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
This guy talking a lot of shit.
Even this is before it the gameeven started, the series even

(42:01):
started, okay?
He's all oh, you know, all youDodger fans in my comment
section, you guys are, you know,I'm gonna whether you guys
lose, I'm gonna boost you up,I'm gonna put you on blast and
all that.
He was saying all this kind ofshit.
And then uh, and then I gotalso another clip that the other
guy, he's all mouthing out thathe's gonna send uh the tape
about Song Young King missed theuh the Dodger, the home, the

(42:23):
home plate to the commissioner,the MLB commissioner.
He's gonna send it.
And it's already too late.
You can't do nothing about it.
Yes, it's the call, okay.
Well, this guy was he was likeputting the Dodgers fans on
blast, okay?
And it's ridiculous, dude.
Uh, I mean, they want they theylike to speak before anything
else.
I mean, don't count your eggsbefore they hatch, or don't put

(42:45):
your eggs in one basket, youknow what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
But um, I mean, ridiculous.
It's like me all saying, Areyou Dodgers gonna lose?
I mean, are you Philly fans aregonna lose and all that stuff?
Watch you see, you're gonnalose, watch you guys gonna look
fucking stupid and silly.
The only way they're talkingshit because they look silly,
you know?
Because they're they'rebragging, they're they're
bragging that the Dodgers aregonna lose.

(43:06):
And let me let me give me admitsomething.
I'm gonna tell you the truth.
I was kind of worried that theDodgers was gonna lose.
Okay.
I I had a feeling they're gonnalose, and I and the Phillies
were fucking strong.
They give them a match, theygive them a game.
Just put it.
I'm gonna admit to that.
Okay, yeah, now I'm gonna admitto that, Philly fans.
I mean, the Phillies gave theDodger a game, okay?

(43:27):
They gave them the game, right?
And they were making fun ofKershaw when when Kershaw was
pitching.
The inside the dog out, they'reall laughing at Kershaw, dude.
You know?
Oh, really?
Yeah, they're and then now thatthe Dodgers win, they're not no
one's laughing, you know?
They want us to feel sorry forthe pitcher that fucked up that
error when he threw the wrongthe the wild pitch when it made

(43:48):
the Dodgers win.
Everybody, all the Dodgers fansgo, oh, I feel sorry for him,
you know, oh boo-hoo, wah, youknow, shit like that.
But they were making fun ofthey were making fun of uh
Kershaw when he was when he waspitching.
Allow those runs.
You know, to me, I think theDodgers were giving, they were
just toying them around.
That's what I think.
But hey now! Um here's the clipof that guy mouthing off, you

(44:11):
know.
And I don't know, man.
Here we go.

Clip (44:15):
This guy thinks the Phillies are gonna lose in three
games.
Tell you what, there's a lot ofdelusional Dodger fans in my
comment section.
I don't think I've ever seenanybody talk this much shit over
one baseball game in my entirelife.
Don't get me wrong, verydiscouraging loss, but it's one
ball game.
These guys are acting like theywon the World Series for
winning the first game of theNLDS.
I'll tell you what, when wecome back and we win this

(44:37):
series, I'm gonna reply to allthese Dodger fans talking all
this insane shit in my comments.
It's gonna be so comical.
We're talking about a ball clubthat's made the postseason 13
times and has only won the WorldSeries twice.
Not to mention, we beat theDodgers in the NLCS in 2008 and
2009.
The Phillies have won the lastfive series in the regular
season against the Dodgers andhave a 4-2 record, 4-3 record

(45:00):
against them this year.
I mean, look, the scourginglost before for the Phillies.
Is it over?
Of course not.
And these people are gettingway too far ahead of themselves.
Some of these guys are clearlynew baseball fans.
I mean, somebody literallycommented the Phillies have made
the postseason a couple times,but didn't go to the World
Series.
Obviously, the Phillies went tothe World Series in 2022.
By the way, in 2022, theDodgers actually won 111 games

(45:24):
and lost in the NLDS.
And in 2023, they won 100 gamesand they got swept in the NLDS
to an 84-win ball club.
So look, it's baseball,anything can happen, but one
thing that isn't gonna happen isthe Phillies losing in three
games or the Phillies losing inthe series at all.
From my original prediction.

Joe (45:41):
This guy was just talking shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, that's somethingthat's something a loser would
say.
Yeah.
They're kind of their loss, thearrogance and all that stuff.
You know, never mind 20, youknow, 2003, right?
Oh, Phillies won this.
It's just stick to the the lastfive years.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, and they come outwith the yeah, then they come

(46:02):
out with like, oh, the 2020 wasa Mickey Mouse fucking.
Yeah, but if it was yourfucking team that won the 2020,
you wouldn't fucking talk shitabout that shit, right?
You know, I can tell, I cantell the guy talking on the
video, I can tell he's a fuckingDemocrat.
Oh, yeah, yeah, he's a liberal.
You could tell.
And he goes by the name.
He goes by the name, um, he'son TikTok.

(46:23):
He goes by the name at NessPaloo underslash sports, okay,
at TikTok.
Sounds like a Democrat.
Yeah, so you go look him up,give him hell, Dodger fans, you
know.
So, yeah, so he's just talkingjust mouthing off before even
the game started.
The game, the series ain't evenstarted yet, and he just right

(46:44):
here mouthing off, you know.
Of course, you know, we won theWorld Series, fair, fair and
square, and then in 2022, eventhough we have fake off fake
fans on uh on Dodger Stadium in2020 when it was COVID, you
know, they had like posters ofyou know fans out there.
I remember that day.
If you ever hit a baseball andit hits you, and you send a

(47:05):
picture, you could send apicture to Dodger Stadium, you
could be one of the crowd.
Yeah, I remember that shit.
So if they hit a home run andit hits your picture, they'll
mail you the ball.
You know what I mean?
That was just funny.
No, that was funny.
Okay, and um you know okay, goahead.
Sorry.
And the other one, this guy, ohmy god, man.
I I just can't, I just can'tbelieve it because when these

(47:30):
people don't like to get theydon't want to face themselves
that they lost, or they don'twant to make themselves all
wrong.
They always have to be right,you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and it's like uh theydon't want to be wrong all the
time, you know.
They have to like pushthemselves to be right, but
legally they're wrong.
But this guy was here saying,Oh, I saw the the Dodgers

(47:53):
cheated and this and that, anduh he didn't touch the he didn't
touch the home plate.
Uh Syom Young didn't touch thehome plate, so I'm gonna send it
to the MLB commissioner office,and they see over there.
I got the clip making himmaking him he's making himself
like a fool.
Okay.
Here we go.
Baby.
Yeah, like you can even hearthe tone of his voice too, like
he was crying, dude.
Watch.

Clip (48:13):
Welp, Dodgers fans.
I just caught you blue-handed.
Do you guys want to explain thecontext of this photo?
Your so-called base runner heredid not touch home play.
And how do you think this wouldlook if I send it in to the
commissioner?
Well, nothing you guys can sayabout it now.
I already forwarded it to him,and we're gonna get this game
replayed.
So if you guys want to cheat,you got to try harder than that.

Joe (48:38):
You could even tell his voice was one he wanted to cry,
dude, when you said you wannasend that shit to the commission
commission commission for thename.
What an idiot.
It's gonna replay they're notgonna replay that game.
Who's he kidding?
You imagine?
They were cheating, they werecheating.

Joe and Thee Gooch (48:59):
Can you stop over?

Joe (49:01):
Baby.
Fucking cry, baby.
You know?
I mean, these kind of fans, Idon't think they're true
friends.
True fans are really likesportsmanship, like they accept
the loss, you know what I'msaying?
I think these are I think theseare the ones who are jumping
the bandwagon Philly fans, youknow?
Yeah, they they claimthemselves they're fans, but

(49:24):
they're the ones that can acceptthe loss.
That's what I think.
Uh, what's what do we reallyknow Philly for?
Philly cheesesteaks, you know,big deal.
Fuck them.
And fucking rock, Rocky Baboa.
Yeah, I forgot about it.
Rocky Baboa, Philadelphia, andOhtani John song, free uh uh
Philadelphia Freedom.
Shit like that.

(49:44):
Yeah, that's about it.
All right, since it'sHalloween, you're are you ready?
You can I change the subjectnow, or you still want to
continue?
Sir, you can, you can, sir.
Okay, maybe I'm reading toomuch into this.
Uh-huh.
It will be my pleasure.
You tell me, you know,symbolism, okay?
Okay, you ready?
This has to do with uh ready.

(50:06):
Let me do my radio voice.
This has to do with LucilleBall.
I love Lucy.
Oh, yeah, I heard about hertoo.
Yeah, okay.

Thee Gooch (50:16):
All right, all right.

Joe (50:18):
Are you guys ready for a Halloween tree, guys?
Chakazulus around the corner,you know?
Okay.
Who do you call them, Gooch?
Chamuko?
Fucking Chamuko.
Chamuko.
Okay, so before you start.
Oh go ahead, go ahead.

Effect (50:41):
This is Halloween time.
This is Chakazulu.
Beware, children.
And all your shepherds outthere.
Get ready for Halloween.
The Goochie gonna explain aboutLucille balls.

Joe and Thee Gooch (51:05):
Okay, gooch.
I just wanted to do that.
I wish I could change my voice.
I don't know, Sunder gotpossessed.
Okay, I I totally missed theLucille part.
Okay, so there's a meaning withher name Lucille, okay, but
I'll get to that later.
Ball.
Ball is for Baal, okay.
And Bale is what you peoplecelebrate every Christmas on the

(51:29):
December 25th as Santa Claus,right?
And Bale was they used tosacrifice their babies to.
Okay.
Really?
Are you are you with me?
I'm with you.
Okay, so now take Lucille.
Right behind you.
Ooh, was that you?
Okay, take Lucille, right?

(51:52):
But we're gonna take the wayshe spelled it was
L-U-C-I-E-E-L, right?
Lucille.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, okay, so take the firstfour letters of her name, which
is L-U-C-I, right?
Lucille.
Lucy, right?
Okay.
What was her neighbor's name?

(52:13):
Fred, right?
Yeah, Fred, yeah.
Okay.
So now you have L-U-C-I-F forFred.
And then his wife's name wasEthel.
Ethel.
Okay.
And Lucy's number husband wasRicky, right?
Ricky, right.
Check this out.
Lucy F Fred.

(52:35):
Ethel.
And Ricky spelled out Lucifer.
Wow.
Damn, are you serious?
That's symbolism.
So you did it happen onpurpose.
What's that fucking word, dude?
Is it uh comes from shit,forget it.

(52:56):
Is it did it happenaccidentally or did it do it on
purpose?
Yeah, I don't know.
It's show business.
It's show business.
So you don't we don't, I don't,it's symbolism.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, did he do it?
Um, did they did it likepurposely?
Intentionally, purposely,intentionally, that um to put to

(53:16):
put it like Lucille Ball, or itjust happened to be just it's
just I don't know.
I don't believe incoincidences.
Yeah, yeah, I don't believe incoincidence.
That's what I was gonna saycoincidence, but I couldn't say
the the the actual can do, youknow, right?
It's a tongue twister for me.
So uh you know, but I meanforgive me, guys.
I I just drank last night, soI'm kind of getting over a

(53:37):
hangover.
So that's what you have isLucifer, yeah.
Okay, that's it spells thewhole thing, right?
Yeah, yeah.
That's just fucking crazy,dude.
That's crazy, huh?
I mean, how does that happen?
It does I'm you see, I'mthinking, does it have it happen
with soul?
Because of the person's souls,the Hollywood soul, is it all
demonic?
I think so, dude.

(53:58):
I think so.
Like the I mean, if it happenedin purpose, um like how do you
how do you how do you how do youdo that?
How do you make the whole youknow, I don't think they sit
around and be like, okay, we'regonna pull Lucy, yeah, okay,
Fred, Ethel, and Ricky, youknow, like I don't know.
That's what that's what I'mtrying to see.
Uh, I mean, I'm curious whatBenny did with our with our

(54:18):
fucking symbolizing our talk,the talkers uh emblem.
Did he put some titanic shit onit?
Uh did he have it in the soul?
Does it have any meaning?
You know what I'm saying?
You know, uh, but like you see,like, okay, let's look for the
meaning would Benny put on oursymbol, you know?
Right, I see the city, LosAngeles City there.
CS penis.

(54:38):
Maybe the they're gonna say the1991 is gonna be 666 pretty
soon.
I don't know.
Yeah, but yeah, I know whatyou're saying.
Yeah, dude, that's that's justfucking crazy, dude.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, it's like uh when youplay a record pair, right?
And you just you know you'renot attentioning making a devil
music, but when you play itreverse, you just hear it

(55:01):
backward, you know what I'msaying?
It's like some shit like that,right?
It's yeah, exactly.
It's like it's like like theenergy or something.
There's a lot of songs outthere that we know, yeah,
especially one from the RollingStones, and you can and you can
clearly hear you when you rewhen you read the lyrics, it
almost sounds like the devilhimself wrote that fucking song.

(55:23):
Yeah, no, the what's the thatsong that's gonna be like
Sympathy for the Devil.
Yeah, I heard about that onetoo.
Please allow me to introducemyself, yeah.
Yeah, I'm a man or something,right?
With many names and shit.
With many names, yeah.
Yeah, crazy.
So I think it's intentionalbecause there's no I don't

(55:44):
believe it's I don't believeit's I don't believe in
coincidences.
Yeah, I mean I mean it has todo with the the dark energy in
your soul, you know what I'msaying?
That's fucking weird.
And you see, granted, back inthe day, in 19, you know, back
in the day when music whenteenagers were in love and they

(56:06):
became singers, and like FrankieLyman was you know 13 years old
when he started singing aboutlove and yeah, old ass men who
were singing about young girls.
You know, no, that that's whatI found it find it weird too,
because back in the day, all thesingers, all their other songs
about girls, not women and shit.
Young girls, young girls, yeah,young girls.

(56:28):
I mean, it was it was back inthe day, right?
I mean, yeah, at the time itwas legal.
Now it's a big thing out of it,you know.
Not only it was legal, it wasinsane.
I mean, it's yeah, but it it'sstill wrong.
It's still wrong, it's stillwrong, yeah.
It's it's wrong, but you know,but at the time it was a it was

(56:48):
you know, it was I don't want tothrow the guy under the bus,
but Alvis was another one,right?
When he met Priscilla Presley,she was what 14?
He was 23.
Yeah, yeah, but uh see thatwell they say that he didn't
have sex with her, but uh youknow we can we can say that, but
in reality, come on, let's bereal.

(57:08):
I'm sure some have like look atJerry Lee Lewis and his cousin.
Yeah, well Jerry Lee Lewis,well, dude, that's well, that
was his second cousin, actually,right?
Second Jerry Lee Lewis, yeah.
Second second cousin, yeah.
He lost his career because ofthat shit.
Well, because of that, and thenhe he was bragging too, you

(57:29):
know.
But yeah, he was he wasbragging a lot about, you know,
he wanted to beat Elvis and thisand that, but yeah, but um but
that's crazy, dude.
It's fucking crazy.
Like Lucille Ball spells outhim with the ethel and all that,
spells out Lucifer.
Yeah, this world is a stage,dude.

(57:59):
This world is a stage, don'tfall for anything, it's all a
fucking illusion.
It's no one is for you.
Yeah, the government's not foryou, your family is not for you,
your friends aren't for you,they say they are, but they're
not.
Yeah, but there's some familiesthat that they want to be your

(58:22):
they're close to you, butthey're just feeding like the
hatred.
Gossips and hatred and hatredand all that stuff.
They want to backstab you andbetrayal, right?
I mean, and it's not only forfamily, too, it could be your
friends, too.
You can't trust nobody.
Oh shit, friends, dude.
You know?
It's like uh it's like thewhole Donald Trump shit right

(58:44):
now, dude, and in Israel.
Everybody's praising DonaldTrump for ending the war and you
know, uh Gaza and Israelbetween Palestine and Israel.
Whatever.
Was it really Donald Trumpthough?
Or is it that just the media,what they're telling us, you
know?
It's just the media, right?
Yeah.
What what do you think, Gooch?

(59:05):
I mean, I think it's just purepublicity.
It's just publicity, dude.
The world hates, well, part ofthe world hates Donald Trump, so
they're gonna have to fluff hispillow one way or another,
right?
Yeah.
What do we have in Los Angeles?
Free, free Palestine bullshit,right?

Joe (59:22):
Yeah, yeah.

Joe and Thee Gooch (59:23):
You know?
All across the country, acrossthe world, you know.
Free, free Palestine.
Oh, look, yeah, Donald Trumpput the end of the of the world.
War.
What about uh what about theother knucklehead?
Um, what's her name?
Um Greta Thunberg?
Yeah, what's her name again?
Loretta Greta Greta Thunberg, Ithink.
Yeah.
I mean, she she did aninterview, right?

(59:46):
And she was like, Yeah,supposedly, yeah, yeah.
She was being mistreated byIsrael.
That's another shit, too, isthat just a young kid, what is
she, 19, 20 years old, trying totell trying To influence the
world that Israel's bad andPalestine is good.
It's just bullshit.

(01:00:08):
Crazy shit.
You notice you haven't heardanything about the AI3 Atlas or
whatever?
Oh, right.
You haven't heard anythingabout it, right?
Yeah, you're right.
Right.
You're right, Gooch.
It's all bullshit.
But what um what I'm findingamazing on TikTok, well, I

(01:00:29):
shouldn't believe TikTok whatthey ever put, anyways, but
there's this guy that's alwaysputting like satellite things on
the like um information thatthey're coming, that a lot of
ships coming and all that stuffby Lovember and shit like that.
But I don't know.
Like you said, they're alreadyhere, you know?
They're probably coveringclouds, you know.

(01:00:50):
Yeah, I I strongly believethey're already here in the
ocean, right?
But I believe a lot of thesethings that you see on on social
media, I strongly believe thatthey're paid for to scare you,
to pay they they're paid forpeople to talk to you and let
you know, hey, something'scoming.
Oh, look at my graph, look atwhat I saw.

Joe (01:01:10):
Yeah.

Joe and Thee Gooch (01:01:10):
I believe they're all paid for, dude.
By somebody.
What about the otherknucklehead uh that girl that
had an interview and she wasgetting all mad because they
were giving her tough questions?
I forgot her name.
Oh, I forgot about that chick.
So you have that clip?
Yeah, I got the clip.
You want to see it?
Oh, oh, wait, let me just saythis real quick.

(01:01:32):
Okay.
California.
Please, please, for the love ofGod.
Do not vote this psychopath asyour governor.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Please.
Okay, just to give you guys arun, I forget her fucking name.

(01:01:53):
That's how unimportant she is.

Joe (01:01:55):
Yeah.

Thee Gooch (01:01:55):
She's been accused of domestic violence with her
husband.

Joe (01:01:58):
Right.

Thee Gooch (01:01:58):
She has a really bad temper.
She's violent with her staffmembers.
Yeah.
And finally, uh this video ofher screaming at her aid, I
believe was in 2020.
Or 2022 or 23.
It was nothing recent.
Oh, she's older player thanall.
Damn, dude.
Even the way I mean, just watchit.
Yeah, we have to watch it.

(01:02:19):
Because I don't know.
No, I mean, I I I I twistedwrong, you know.

Clip (01:02:26):
I support the governor's plan.
What do you say to the 40% ofCalifornia voters who you'll
need in order to win who votedfor Trump?
How would I need them in orderto win?
So well, unless you think you'regonna get 60% of the vote.
You think you'll get 60% alleverybody who did not vote for
Trump will vote for you.
That's what you're thinking.
In a general election?

(01:02:47):
Yes.
If it is me versus aRepublican, I think that I will
win the people who did not votefor Trump.
What if it's you versus anotherDemocrat?
I don't intend that to be thecase.
So how do you not intend thatto be the case?
Do you do you are you gonna askthem not to run?
No, no, I'm saying I'm gonnabuild the support.
I have the support already interms of name recognition.
And so I'm gonna do the verybest I can to make sure that we

(01:03:09):
get through this primary in areally strong position.
But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County.
I represented a purple area.
I have stood on my own two feetand won Republican votes
before.
That's not something everycandidate in this race can say.
If you're from a deep bluearea, if you're from LA or
you're from Oakland, you haven'thad you don't have an
experience.
You just said you don't needthose Trump voters.
Well, you asked me if I neededthem to win.

(01:03:30):
You don't need to I feel likethis is unnecessarily
argumentative.
What is your question?
The the question is the samething I asked everybody that
this is being called theempowering voters to stop
Trump's power grab.
Every other candidate hasanswered this question.
This is not argumentative.
I support it.
So and the question is, what doyou say to the 40% of voters

(01:03:50):
who voted for Trump?
Oh, I'm happy to say that.
It's the do you need them towin part that I don't
understand.
I'm happy to answer the answerthe question as you haven't
written and I'll answer it.
And we've also asked the othercandidates, do you think you
need any of those 40% ofCalifornia voters to win?
And you're saying no, youdon't.
No, I'm saying I'm gonna try towin every vote I can.
And what I'm saying to you isthat Well to those voters.

(01:04:12):
Okay, so so you I don't want tokeep doing this, I'm gonna call
it.
Thank you.
You're not gonna do theinterview with us.
No, not like this, I'm not.
Not with seven follow-ups toevery single question you ask.
Every other candidate hasanswered our follow-ups.
I don't care.
I I want to have a pleasant,positive conversation when you
ask me about every issue on thislist.
And if every question you'regonna make up a follow-up

(01:04:34):
question, then we're never gonnaget there.
And we're just gonna circlearound.
I'm an interview.
I have never had to do thisbefore, ever.
You've never had to have aconversation with the other.
To end up okay, but every othercandidate has done this.
I what part of I'm me, I'mrunning for governor because I'm
a leader.
So I am going to make so you'renot gonna answer questions from

(01:04:56):
reporters?
Okay, why don't we go through?
I will continue to askfollow-up questions because
that's my job as a journalist,but I will go through and ask
these.
And if you don't want toanswer, you don't want to
answer.
So nearly every legislative Idon't want to have an unhappy
experience with you.
And I don't want this all oncamera.
I don't want to have an unhappyexperience with you either.
I would love to continue to askthese questions so that we can

(01:05:18):
show our viewers what everycandidate feels about every one
of these issues that they careabout.
And redistricting it's amassive issue, we're gonna do an
entire story just on theresponses to that question, and
have asked everybody the samefollow-up questions.

Joe and Thee Gooch (01:05:37):
Imagine her off the fucking camera.
Whoever knows her?
And just just you know, I don'tknow, I don't think people just
to be certain, yes, this ladyis going to need 60% of Donald
Trump's voters to vote for herso she can win.

(01:06:01):
Because if she gets 50, thatwould give her a fucking tie,
which would mean no, she won'tbecome fucking governor.
She's that's how stupid, that'show stupid they are, dude.
In the arrogant, how's shesaying, right?
That one was recent, that onewas last week.
That interview was last weekthat I caught it, and I was

(01:06:23):
like, what a stupid one.
But there's another there wasanother one of her.
She was yelling at her one ofher staff.
Yeah, but uh now I know how badbunny knows how to sing, dude.
Why don't you check it out?
Does it sound familiar on thisone?

Joe (01:06:59):
I'm sorry, I just can't get over it.
I mean, I kind of get over it,dude.
Just just the bringing thehumor, and you know, and that's

(01:07:20):
yeah, that's what you're lookingforward to, the halftime show.
Yeah, dude.
And and you know what?
They were posting all that.
I'm not the only one.
I give credit to the thecreators on TikTok, they're all
putting on him, and all the fanson the Super Bowl are like,
what is he singing?
What's he's talking?
What is he talking about?
Like, what's he singing about?
You can't hardly he sounds likeKiko, Kiko from uh Chavo de

(01:07:41):
Locho, yeah, yeah.
And you know what?
Uh there's a picture of I meanI a Saturday Night Live they did
with the Chavo de Hocho.
This is him right here.
Look at it.
Check it out.
Bad bunny right there, beingKiko.
Yeah, you know, but uh yeah.
Kind of sound like Kiko whenyou're singing, too.

(01:08:03):
But um Yeah, it's just gonna beanother shit halftime show.
You know, this you know, Iheard that the NFL don't play
the pay the performers toperform, but then I hear that
he's getting paid 10 million toperform on a halftime show.
So I mean, who knows?
Not my circus, not my monkey.
Crazy shit.

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Uh let me see.
No, I think we're it, mama.
That's it.
Yep, I'm gonna go back toplaying my video game.
Oh, yeah.
You know what, dude?
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Oh, I'll check it out.
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There you go, guys.
I think we're it guys.
Um it was uh it was a longshow, uh yeah, it was pretty
good.
You know, I gotta pee.
But um, nice!

Joe and Thee Gooch (01:10:47):
But um I just want to do you have any
last words, Gooch, before we go.
Don't drink and drive.
And don't drink and drive.
If you need to reach out toanybody, reach out and have a
talk.
There you go, guys.
Listen to the Gooch 2.
Do not drink and drive,everyone.
I just want to say thank you toall the listeners are giving

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Um, thank you, Mikayla, forsupporting season one and two,
and um, all about Europe, Japan,China, Africa, South America,
North America.
But thank you for all yourdownloads, everybody.

(01:11:29):
Thank you very much.
Be safe out there.
Happy Sunday, fun day, and um,do not drink and drive,
everybody.
It's not worth it.
Um, call your friend, yourcousin, family, Uber, anything
like that.
Do not drink and drive,everybody.
Have fun.
Don't have fun on the wrongplace, guys.
Um, this is it, everybody.

(01:11:49):
This is Thee Talkers PodcastUnscripted.
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What do you guys want to say?
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