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Superman has landed, and the reactions are anything but unified. In this passionate, unfiltered episode, Joe flies solo to deliver his unvarnished take on James Gunn's new Superman film and the surprisingly divisive fan response it's generating.

Cutting through the noise of social media criticism, Joe makes a compelling case that much of the backlash comes not from the film's actual content, but from certain fans' inability to let go of past iterations. Drawing parallels between accepting change in superhero franchises and dealing with loss in real life, he explores how our relationship with fictional characters often reveals deeper psychological patterns.

The episode takes fascinating detours into fan psychology, examining how yesterday's critics of Zach Snyder have transformed into his most vocal defenders, and how social media amplifies performative disappointment. Joe shares memorable anecdotes from his theater experience and dissects the strange phenomenon of fans who build up massive expectations only to dramatically reject the final product.

What emerges is more than just a movie review—it's a thoughtful meditation on fandom culture, nostalgia, and the surprising difficulty many have with embracing new interpretations of beloved characters. Whether you're excited about the new Superman or skeptical about its direction, this episode offers a refreshingly honest perspective that challenges listeners to examine their own relationship with change, both in entertainment and beyond.

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Well, you know, on Saturday,last Saturday, on July 11th no,
july 12th, my bad, okay.
Well, the new Superman justcame on July 11th.

(03:53):
Right, yeah, it did.
July 11th, 2025, superman.
And I went after work, straightafter work, I zoomed it and I
saw it.
Finally it arrived, and I sawit on Saturday, july 12th.
Everybody, this movie was sofucking awesome, everybody.

(04:16):
Let me tell you one thing Donot let people convince you that
it sucked.
It didn't.
It was amazing.
It's not even woke like peoplewere just was amazing.
It's not even woke, like peoplewere just talking about.
It's not even woke.
Everybody.
I mean, what are these peopleare talking about?
You know, these are people thatwant to sabotage movies.
I don't know, they're not evenSuperman fans.
And social media too, when yougo to Facebook and they're all

(04:41):
bashing the movie becausethey're like hurt or something
like that, and they're likecrying because I mean, it's not
a record breaker, but it mademoney.
It hit the box office for three, for four days, you know, and
they're all like ragging aboutoh, it's not like man of Steel
and this and that, like ZackSnyder, and you know what you

(05:05):
should love the movie the way itis.
Man, if you're a Superman fan,it wouldn't bother you.
You'll watch it anyway.
I still watched it.
You know what I'm saying.
And I'm a huge Superman fan.
Damn it.
I still like Superman 4, eventhough Christopher Reeve didn't
approve that movie, you know hesaid he didn't like it.
You know what I'm saying.
And it was.

(05:25):
I mean, it was a fantasticmovie.
Okay, I give it eight out ofnine.
Okay, or eight out of ten.
I mean my bad, but to me it was, it was, it was awesome.
It was awesome.
I like the flying scene, theflying sequences and all that
stuff, the flying scenes.
You know the fighting and allthat shit.
You know it was more.

(05:46):
It was more terrific.
Okay, all right, mr Terrificwas there Lois Lane, lex Luthor,
guy Gardner, the Green Lantern,hawkgirl and Jimmy Olsen, and
you know they did great.
You know they did great.
They put their part inside themovie and it was awesome.

(06:06):
You know, I mean even Supergirlcame out Spoiler alert.
Even Supergirl came in to thescene.
But it was like in the lastending of the movie.
Okay, spoiler alert.
Okay, my bad, but I'm a hugeSuperman fan.

(06:28):
No one in the fucking socialmedia is not going to change my
mind.
You're saying it sucks and allthat stuff.
I mean, come on, get real guys.
Stop bashing the movie.
That's all.
You guys are good for, justbashing movies.
You're not even Superman fans.
You know every single one ofyou.
I go to your profiles and Icheck.

(06:51):
Most of you guys are just likebots, like you know.
You guys are hiding yourprofile.
You don't want nobody to knowwhat you are about, what you're
all about.
I mean, you know you don't wantthem to figure you out.
That's why I already figuredyou guys out already.
You guys are just fuckinghating and just jealous.

(07:14):
You know you're all intodirectors and filming and arts
and all that stuff.
Comments, it's only commentsand I mean it's noticeable that
you guys are not fans.
Some of you out there are likeDragon Ball fans, dragon Ball Z

(07:36):
fans or something like that.
I'm not making fun of them, buttry to make a Dragon Ball Z
movie and we see how that shitturns out.
Because, last thing, I knowthey made one.
It fucking sucks.
From what I heard, if they evermake a fucking Dragon Ball Z,
it won't stand a chance ontheaters.

(07:58):
Everybody, it has to be a good,good ass director To make a
Dragon Ball Z movie.
You know what I'm saying.
Try to do.
You know what I'm saying.
Try to do that.
You know.
And most of the whole story fromDragon Ball Z, it's a copyright
from Superman.
You know, even the creator saidit himself.
He got influenced by Superman.

(08:20):
You know the storyline ofSuperman.
But, like, like I said again,the movie was terrific, all
right, and um, you guys got tolearn how to, um, to let go
things.
You know got to embrace thefuture.

(08:40):
You know, forget the past.
James Gunn, I mean James Gunn,he nailed it and I knew he would
and I knew he would.
You know, and, yeah, I knew hewould.

(09:02):
But you guys are all sore.
You guys are all sore milk.
You're crying over sore, Idon't know.
But you guys are all sore.
You guys are all sore milk.
You're crying over sore, Idon't know.
You guys knew you cried me,like you know.
I don't know what to saySometimes.
I mean you guys just got to letgo.
I mean Zack Snyder's not comingback, not even Henry Caldwell's

(09:28):
not coming back, not even HenryCavil's not coming back, that's
it.
If you want to see him, if youwant to see Henry Cavill.
He's coming out in a new moviecalled Voltron, I think, in, I
think, this year in fall.
Maybe correct me if I'm wrong,but yeah, if you want to see him
there In fall, maybe, I think,correct me if I'm wrong, but
yeah, if you want to see himthere, he's coming out in

(09:50):
Voltron, you know.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Ilike the guy, I like his movie
too, man of Steel and BVS.
You know, when Zack SnyderDirected man of Steel and I
always wanted Superman to belike what's going on On the

(10:11):
world, what's going like robbingand all that shit Like real
life, like real violence that'sgoing on Around the world, right
, that's what I wanted too.
You know, I wanted Superman togo through Real events like
what's going on right now.
That's what I wanted, that'swhat, that's what that kind of

(10:33):
movie I wanted to be, to behonest.
And then man of Steel wasalmost close to that.
It was almost close to that.
But, to be honest with you,there was a lot of collateral
damage on that, um, in thatmovie, and Hardly Superman
didn't hardly say anybody that,uh, when buildings were crashing
, you know things, shit likethat.
But don't get me wrong.

(10:55):
The man of steel.
Man of steel was good, but if,but, if, they would have made it
more like realistic, likewhat's going on in the world
mugging, you know, stoppingpeople from killing, you know,
getting real events.
That's what I wanted, you know.
And then what I like about whatZack Snyder did was that alien

(11:18):
invasion he broadcasted in thenews in man of Steel.
You know that Zod was arrivingto Earth because he was looking
for Kal-El.
That was kind of awesome,because it's like us, when we're

(11:39):
watching the news or TikTok,you know, you guys are seeing
like UFOs invasion, gettinginvaded by UFOs.
Right, that's what I likedabout it too.
You know, I'm not trying tobash Zach Snyder, you know,
because if I did I'll be ahypocrite, because I do collect,
I do have his movies, I do havethe justice league, the un, uh,
unlimited what is it?

(12:00):
The unlimited version, you know?
And uh, the, the BVS one too,the uncut director's cut.
I got that one too.
You know I'm a huge fan ofSuperman.
I collect everything that'sSuperman, right, but if it would

(12:21):
have made man of Steel likerealistic, but saving a lot of
people you know he only savedLouis to the whole movie.
Well, not to the whole movie asoldier, and I think that's
about it.
I mean, I don't know.

(12:43):
I mean, I love Superman.
I know a lot about Superman andthis James Gunn, the one he
directed, it was real awesome.
It was amazing.
But we all have to move on andpeople are saying, oh, I'm going
to watch the movie streaming onSuperman, the James Gunn

(13:05):
version, I want to watch it onSuperman, but you're still
paying it in streaming.
How stupid can that be?
You know I don't get it.
I'm going to watch it instreaming.
When it comes on the screen,I'm going to watch it.
Moron, you know what.
You're still paying for Max.
You know Max, and it's run byWarner Brothers.

(13:26):
Okay, I mean, oh my gosh, I justthe comments they have in
Facebook and Instagram andTikTok.
Oh my gosh, dude, all whining,you know crying because they
didn't get their way.
I don gosh, dude, all whining,you know Crying because they

(13:46):
didn't get their way.
I don't understand that.
I really don't.
Oh my gosh, it's like doingtantrums because, oh my gosh,
that's not the way James.
I mean, it's not the way Jamesgot.
I didn't like the way he did it.
You know he messed it up.
He messed it up.

(14:07):
I don't like it.
I'm going to rip this shirt.
I'm going to throw all the toysthat I bought.
You know you're not a trueSuperman fan.
It's only the ones that are notreally.
I mean the ones that are notfans, they do that you know.
You know some people love ElvisPresley, some people don't.

(14:28):
Some people claim that he's theking of rock and roll.
Some people say that ChuckBerry is the king of rock and
roll.
Some say that Little Rich isthe king of rock and roll.
You know, some people havedifferent tastes in music.
We have all different tastes onmovie making and all that stuff
.
Or different director you guysgot different tastes on movie
making or different director.

(14:48):
You guys got to Get off of that, that dream that you guys are
Wanting Zack Snyder to come back, because it's not going to come
back.
I mean, if it does, oh, wow, Ispoke too soon, but I don't
think he's not coming back.
And you know what?

(15:08):
If he does come back, this iswhat's going to happen.
He's going to want to ask moremoney for him to make that the
conclusion of the Justice Leaguetoo.
All right, they're going tohave to pay him more and he's
going to want more.
All right, they're going tohave to pay him more and he's
going to want more.

(15:29):
But would Warner Brothers riskit or DC Would they risk it?
Maybe, you never know, it's agamble, but to be honest, I
would want it back too.
But I don't think they're goingto think about all that now.
They're focusing on the newmovie, superman, which was

(15:50):
awesome and amazing.
I mean I enjoyed it a lot, tobe honest.
I mean I don't want to give thespoilers that much right here,
but but what people are talkingabout or saying about the movie
that it's woke and all that shityou guys are full of shit.

(16:11):
You guys are full of shit.
It's all like you guys want tojust sabotage it because you
know you didn't get your way,because Henry Cavell is not back
and Zack Snyder is not back tothe scene.
No, I get it, you know, I getit, but we just got to let it go

(16:39):
.
We just got to let go.
Learn to let go.
I mean, some of you are notlearning how to let go.
Just imagine you guys are in arelationship.
If your girlfriend or boyfriendbreaks up with you, you're not
going to know how to deal withit.
Oh, I'm not going to let you go.
I'm not going to let you go.
I'm going to kill you before,because no one can have you.

(16:59):
You know, I'm sorry to put itthat way, but that's the way it
is.
That's reality.
It's reality.
You guys got to learn how to letgo and lose things too.
You guys, people, you guys gotto learn how to lose things,
because not all, all the timeyou're going to win, you have to

(17:20):
learn how to lose.
If you learn how to lose, thenyou get the chance to win.
You know, you don't have to bea loser all the time, but you
can win time to time.
But sometimes you gotta win.
You win some, lose some.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, that's like me.

(17:46):
I always lose.
You know, I'm always.
I'm always losing things andall that stuff.
I'm already used to it.
I'm really used to it.
You could call me a loser whileyou want, I could handle it.
But sometimes when I lose, whenI win things, I get embarrassed.
I don't know, for some reason Idon't know if you guys are
agree with me on that sometimeswhen they, uh, when I like if I

(18:06):
will win a MVP award orsomething like an award.
I think.
Like, I don't know, that's notme, maybe, because I'm I'm
always losing and I'm reallyused to it.
I'm really immune to it.
You know, give me a loser awardinstead.
You know, I think I'll be happywith that, right, right, I mean
, I think I'll be happy with aloser award instead.
You know, I don, I'll be happywith that, right, right, I mean,
I think I'll be happy with aloser award instead.

(18:27):
You know, I don't know, forsomething I get embarrassed
winning something I don't knowand put me in the spot like, oh
my gosh, you know, can you, if Iwin something and they put me
in the spot, I go.
Can you say it?
Can you?
I don't want to be recognizedthat.
You know, I have a MVP award orany award.
You know, if I win money orsomething like that, I'll be

(18:47):
hiding and shit like that.
I don't know.
I don't know if you guys agreewith me with that, but that's
the way I feel, like if someone,someone out there is like like
I'm doing my podcast and someonebeats me on the or trying to be
against me in my podcast andsomeone beats me on the or

(19:07):
trying to be against me in mypodcast, I think, or trying to
be better in my podcast, letthem be better than me.
I don't care, you know, as longas I'm doing the thing that I
love to do, you know that's howit matters.
I don't care about a paper, Idon't care about a stone hinge,
engrave you know little stone,or glass, crystal glass, what's

(19:28):
your name on it?
Maybe I could make that on myown, you know.
But as long as in my heart I'mmore popular in my heart, that's
all that matters in God, aslong as God knows I'm most
valuable to him, that's all thatmatters.
Okay, and only God knows thatI'm good and he knows I pray.

(19:53):
But it doesn't really bother me,you know, it doesn't really
bother me who's better than meor not.
I'm just doing my life, mindingmy own business, doing my work,
and get the hell out of there.
You know, that's what I'mtrying to say.
You know I mean I'm happy forthe person that you know wins an

(20:15):
award.
You know, I'll be glad.
It's like when you buyChristmas.
You know, when it's Christmas,I don't care about getting gifts
.
It's like you rather give.
You know, I'm a giving person.
I like to give, but people thatneed to buy me something like a
present.
You don't have to.
You know it's okay.
You know I get embarrassed whensomeone buys me a gift or

(20:38):
something like that, you know,and I'm more like buying a
present to the person.
You know, for the person, youknow something like that.
So it's like you know, if Ilose, I lose, I'll deal with it,
you know, so I suck.
Who cares?
You know.
But I mean, I know I shouldcare, but it doesn't bother me.

(21:00):
You know it really doesn'tbother me and I'm happy for the
person that won a gift or won anaward.
You know it's, that's good.
That's good, you know.
But as long as I'm doing mywork, I just want to get out of
there and just mind my ownbusiness and that's it.
That's all I can say.
You know, but you know that'swhat I'm trying to say.

(21:23):
People have to learn how to letgo of things.
You know, sometimes in lifeyou're not going to get what you
want.
You know sometimes you're goingto get rejected.
Sometimes you're going to haveto move on and accept things in
life.
You know, because noteverything you're going to win.
You know, not everything you'realways going to win, and then

(21:45):
when you lose, you're going toget all hurt and you're going to
cry.
You're going to, you know,you're going to take matters of
your own hands and you're goingto take it on the world.
You know, oh, that should havebeen me.
I should have won this.
You know people, there's somepeople out there.
They cannot handle rejection,they cannot handle the loss.
You know there's some peoplethat cannot handle the loss of
an unalive parent or things likethat.

(22:06):
Life in the world is not easy.
You're going to go throughdifficult times.
You're going to go throughdifficult times at times.
You know what I'm saying.
And some people are strong,Some people are weak.
So, like me, I'm not saying I'mstrong-minded.

(22:28):
You know, sometimes I get realemotional, sometimes I miss my
mother and my dad.
But I have to move on in life.
I cannot just mope around andthink about my dad and my mom,
my mom and dad's passing.
I just got to keep my mindoccupied, you know.
And if I keep my mind occupiedI'm good.

(22:49):
But you know, when I don't, whenI just mope around in the house
, it's like I just stop andeverything just falls apart and
I'm just going to be thinkingand thinking and thinking and
that's bad, it's like gravity.
You know what?
I'm just going to be thinkingand thinking and thinking, and
that's bad, it's like gravity.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you, just the ball.

(23:09):
You know it's going fast,you're spinning and it's just
hovering like this right andthen once that gravity stops,
I'm going to explode.
You know that's how my mind is.
You know I got to keep my mindoccupied.
I got to get busy, I got to be.
You know that's how my mind is.
You know I got to keep my mindoccupied.
I got to get busy, I got to be.
You know, moving and running.
Keep my mind occupied, becauseif I don't, I'm going to burst,

(23:33):
I might shed a tear or somethinglike that, and it just comes
out.
You know I just don't have itemotionally, I don't just.
You know it's because I'mthinking about things.
You know I'm thinking andthinking, and thinking.
Once I'm stopping, whatever I'mdoing, I'm gonna tear, because
I'm just right away my, myflashbacks come back.
You know, like whatever isgoing to my past.
I think about things too muchand, um, it happens.

(23:59):
But like I say again, you gotto let go of the past, move on.
I mean, I don't know if I'mmaking sense here, or has every
has anything to do with the, themovie, but it's just.
People have to move on.
People have to move on in lifelike, uh, Zach Snyder, that's it

(24:19):
for him.
got to , got to move on andlearn.
got to learn how to acceptnew things in life.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean bashing everybodybecause they love the movie.
You're going to bash thatperson because they love the
movie of James Gunn's movie.
I mean, then again, when theyattacked Zack Snyder, you guys

(24:42):
cannot take it Because literallyyou guys started the whole damn
war on social media.
To be honest, you're allcriticizing, you're all
criticizing on James Gunn andyou're all bragging and bragging
about man of steel and ZachSnyder.
But the guy is gone.
The guy is not directinganymore.
He's, but he's not in the DClist, no more.

(25:05):
He's not employed in the DCuniverse.
You guys have got to accept it.
You have to accept things inlife because he's not coming
back.
Not even Ben Affleck, I mean, hedid a good Batman.

(25:28):
You know that I give himBecause Ben Affleck, he's a good
writer.
Let me tell you one thing he'sa good writer and he also him
and I forgot his pal's name.
It's Ben Affleck.
And, oh my gosh, I forgot hisname.

(25:50):
I'm sorry, but yeah, hedirected that movie, I think.
No, he didn't direct that movie.
He wrote the movie Good WillHunting and they won awards for
it.
They won Oscars on that.
It's a good movie.
I could watch that movie like20 times I watched it more than

(26:14):
20 times, to be honest but BenAffleck, he's a good writer and
a director.
But I really love them as BruceWayne Batman, because Bruce
Wayne, him as Bruce Wayne I meanhim as Bruce Wayne he's like
almost like a playboy.
Do you agree or not?
I mean he was really awesome asBatman, Brace Wayne and people

(26:36):
that day when they were filmingthat I mean not filming.
Sorry, I'm always contradictingmy words, but when they
announced that he was going tobe playing Bruce Wayne Batman,
everybody didn't like thatchoice of him playing Batman
Bruce Wayne.
You know why?
I'll tell you why Because inevery social media network and

(26:59):
Facebook and this was beforeTikTok was existing and it was
on Instagram and Facebook andeverybody go no, not fucking
Batman, he's not a good choicefor Bruce Wayne Batman.
He didn't look good inDaredevil.
He always cries in every fuckingmovie.
He always tears.
In you know, the movieArmageddon, he was crying with

(27:22):
tears.
You know, he was like a cry a,like a cry baby In every fucking
movie.
That's what I was reading.
You know, this is howhypocritical you guys are Out
there, cause you guys Weretalking shit about Ben Affleck
and Henry Cavill and Zack Snyder, and now that, now that Zack

(27:43):
Snyder Got more famous Ondirecting man of Steel and BVS,
because you guys were allknocking them the ones I bet you
, the ones who are now ZackSnyder fans you guys were
knocking them down.
You know if you guys would havenot get a bad word of mouth out
there, and I'm pretty surethese were against Zack Snyder.

(28:06):
These are the ones that areZack Snyder fans right now.
Those are the ones that wereknocking them down and now they
became Zack Snyder fans all of asudden, all of a sudden.
And now they're denying it andyou know you guys are denying it
.
You guys are denying it.
And you know you guys aredenying it.
You guys are denying it BecauseI read every single post.

(28:28):
I mean I wish you know, I justwish I could have just recorded
that shit, you know?
Or snap how do you call thatSnapchat.
You know you snap picture itand all that shit.
You know, whatever you call it,I mean I should have like Took
a picture of it, but we didn'thave the right technology at the

(28:50):
time Because it was what?
2012 at the time, and BVN Imean man of Steel came out in
2013.
You know, you guys were justknocking it down.
You guys were talking shitabout Zack Snyder.
You guys were like, oh, he down.
You guys were talking shitabout Zack Snyder.
You guys were like, oh, he'snot a good Superman.
He looks like he has a recedinghairline and all that shit.

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And now you guys are ZackSnyder friends and now you guys
are denying it the idea.
You didn't knock him down.
You know you guys give him thebad word of mouth about this
movie with BVS, because you guyswere all talking about the
dooms.
They look like a ninja turtle,like a yeah, like a ninja turtle
and a troll.
And you guys were talking about, oh, it sucks and it's like

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mixed up with the Batman Returnsof um, the Dark Knight Returns
and all that shit and the deathof Superman.
You guys were all knocking itand all of a sudden, you guys
are Superman, zack Snyder fanstoo, and Superman fans, and most
of you Probably didn't evenread A comic book.
You know what I'm saying, mostof you guys.

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And you guys know I'm tellingthe truth Because you guys were
Knocking Zack Snyder.
You know, if you guys Wanted tohave said that, the word of
mouth, all that shit.
You know because you guys wereknocking Zack Snyder.
If you guys want to have saidthe word of mouth, all that shit
, if you guys want to not spreadthe rumors that it sucked and
all that shit, this guy, ZachSnyder, those movies would have

(30:14):
made a billion dollars in thebox office but you guys were
knocking him down.
He was almost close.
He was almost close to making abillion dollars, but you guys
were talking shit on theinternet and everybody, word of
mouth, fucking spread the rumorand no one didn't want to see it
.
Because you know I'd rather seeit in streaming.

(30:36):
What's the big deal with sayingit in streaming?
You're all going to watch it instreaming and you guys still
paying for fucking the stream,fucking service.
I don't get it.
Morons, guys are morons.
You guys ruined Zach Snyder'scareer.
Actually, technically he leftbecause his daughter had been

(30:59):
unalive, but technically I Iblame it on the.
You Zack Snyder friends all ofa sudden Snyder, all of a sudden
Snyder friends, Zach Snyderfriends all of a sudden.
And you were the ones wereknocking them down.
And you guys are denying it too.
I was always, I was always aZack Snyder fan bullshit.

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I was always a Zack Snyder fanBullshit.
That's what I can say.
That's all I have to say aboutthat, and you guys know I'm
talking the truth, telling thetruth.
You know I'm telling the truth.
I mean this movie with JamesGunn did it's amazing.

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Put that man of Steel and BVSZack Snyder on the side.
Enjoy this fucking movie, guys.
Enjoy this movie because it isamazing.
You got to take your head out ofZack Snyder, out of your mind.
You got to take it out of it.
Let it go, meditate orsomething you guys are possessed

(32:14):
of.
Zack Snyder.
You guys are possessed on ZackSnyder.
Let it go, let it empty yourmind, let it go.
You know, open your mind.
You know, right, open your mind, open your mind, Open your mind

(32:38):
, open your mind.
Maybe you should open yourminds.
Maybe you should open your ass.
Take your head out of yourasses.
You know you guys got to let itgo.
You guys have to let it go.
You got to have an open-minded.
You got to be open-minded aboutthis movie.

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You guys got to have openminded.
You have to be open mindedabout this movie.
You guys got to move on, enjoylife and enjoy new things that
are coming next year or anotheryear, whatever.
And I knew, and I knew JamesGunn was going to nail this
movie.
I mean, you know, and I'mlooking at it on social media

(33:22):
like TikTok and all that shit.
You know James Gunn was goingto nail this movie.
I mean, you know, and I'mlooking at it on social media,
like TikTok and all that shit.
You know, I see people praisingabout the movie too.
They enjoyed it.
And the ones that are like theydidn't like it, I screw it up.
Let me see, there's one guy I'mnot going to name his name.
He's in social media.
He's a huge Superman fan.

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Okay, you know, a huge Supermanfan, no pun intended.
A huge Superman fan.
He bought this shirt, the sameshirt, you know, the movie shirt
, James Gunn style shirt, theKim Dunn cum ass.
I know I could call it the AlexRoss, because it's really
normally designed by him, fromhim.

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And he bought the tumbler.
You know this thing, this cupright here, you see, and it,
which is a beautiful cup, um,you know, to buy your sword and
all that stuff.
I wanted to buy more, but I gotthere late, but that's another
story.
So he bought everything.
He was really excited to watchthis movie, you know, and he

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made a big deal.
He bought the shirt, he boughtthe costume too, guys, he bought
the costume, you know, hebought everything.
He went all out, guys.
He bought the costume, hebought everything.
He went all out, he went allout.
And I'm a huge Superman fan.
I'm a huge Superman fan.
I'm a big time Superman fansince 1978, when I was five
years old.
When I saw Christopher Reeve, Iwas like amazed and I started

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watching Kurt Alling and allthat shit.
But this guy was like a huge kid, a huge kid that he made a big
thing, a big, whatever you wantto call it.
But he made a big deal onTikTok, that he loved this.
He wanted to see this movie,superman.
He was promoting it, you know,like self-promoting the movie.

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Okay, he got really highexpectations on this movie, you
know, and that's one thing heshouldn't do.
You got to be calm.
Wait till the movie comes out.
Wait till the movie fuckingcomes out.
Then you come out with highexpectations.
But this guy, he made a bigthing.
You know, oh yeah, superman,it's July 11, 2025.

(35:40):
You know, oh yeah, superman,it's July 11, 2025.
You know, I was like man, Ihope it doesn't flop.
I mean I was like what is thisguy doing?
What is he doing?
He's like he just saw thetrailer.
I mean, wait till the moviecomes out.
Like all of you morons outthere, you guys didn't wait till
the movie until you guys arejust bas the trailer.
I mean, wait till the moviecomes out.

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All of you morons out there,you guys didn't wait till the
movie until you guys are justbashing it.
And some of you, right, I knowyou guys didn't just watch it.
I know some of you out theretalking crap.
You guys haven't seen it yet.
You're just hearing a word ofmouth it sucks, oh, it sucks, oh

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, I'm not going to watch it.
You lazy asses, or basementdwellers Basement dwellers I
should call you guys.
But yeah, you guys still goingto watch it, but you guys are
talking shit.
But this guy, he was likepraising the whole movie.
He's a Superman fan, he's onTikTok, he had everything.

(36:41):
I give him credit.
He has comic books, everything.
And the only thing that, okay,I'll get to that later, but he
had, you know, posters of theDavid Coren sweat and crypto
posters.
You know he bought everything.
I'm letting him, I'm tellingyou the truth.

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He bought everything from DavidCorset, superman shirts and all
that shit, and he has comicbooks of Superman.
I go, are you sure you'rereading the comic books?
Or you just bought them just tolook at and just put them in
your shelf?
You know, are you using itcomic books, or you just bought
them just to look at and justput them in your shelf?
You know, are you using it forstyle, just so everybody could

(37:27):
look at your content?
You know they could see you inthe background.
And, oh, he has comic books.
Oh, he must have read them all.
You know, like those professors, like those.
You know how you go when you goto an office.
You know you go to yourcounselor office.
You see a lot of books.
Are you sure you read them?
Or you just just to put themright there just for show?

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You know, because that's theway the guy looked in TikTok.
I go, are you sure you read thecomics at the comics.
You just bought comics and youjust fucking slab them or just,
you know, have it for show soeverybody could look.
Oh look, he reads comic books.
They're right there in theshelves.

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You know, I don't know, but thisguy was just praising about the
movie.
He had really high expectationsabout this movie, which you
should not do until it comes out.
You got to wait until the moviecomes out.
Then you come with see if youlike it or not.
Because for me, as a Supermanfan not bragging about it in

(38:30):
social media I'm like now Iwatch the movie, now I can say
it, now I go.
I really have high expectationsabout this movie because it was
amazing and I really fuckinglike it.
I'm not like this guy.
Before the movie didn't comeout, he made a big ass shit out

(38:51):
of it.
And now he's like, oh, hedidn't like the fucking movie,
he didn't love it, he hated it.
He was bashing James Gunn aboutit, that James Gunn messed it
up.
It was not the movie I expectedit to be and all that stuff,
through all this fuckingbullshit that he made the big
deal, he made the highexpectations on TikTok and all

(39:13):
that stuff ragging about JamesGunn that he was disappointed
about the movie.
Fucking bullshit.
It's kind of like a hypocrite,you know.
And I met a comment Well, I'm ahuge Superman fan.
I don't have your shit like inthe back, like the way you have
it.
You know, I don't have mycomics like in the background.

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I don't gloat them, I don'tshow them off Like if I was a
professor in the back.
I don't gloat them.
I don't show them off Like if Iwas a professor in the back.
You know, like I'm a professor,like having all my books, my
comic books, right there.
I have my toys, but I mean I'mnot going to put them all like
that so everybody could see them.
You know what I'm saying.
But yet he's all bashing it andlike, oh, it's a disappointing

(39:59):
movie and all that stuff.
Well, I thought you were aSuperman fan.
You know Superman fans do loveSuperman.
You know I love Superman.
I fucking love the movie.
It was amazing.
I don't care.
I tell everybody, you know, Itell everybody, like you know,
if you're, if you're gonna be, aSuperman fan, go watch it.
If you're not, don it at all.
All right, I warned them.
Oh, and when they, when they'renot even Superman fans.

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They go watch it and now theystart talking shit.
Well, why are you watching it?
Why are you watching it?
Oh, because it was a.
It was a.
There was nothing on and therewas nothing good to see.
Well, yeah, there's JurassicPark.
You, when I went to go watchthis, to go watch the movie, on
Saturday on July 12th, when Iwent to go see it, this lady was

(40:44):
like she was a sweet lady, wewere talking, making
conversation.
I got there early, I bought mybeer and she made a conversation
with me and I said, hi, Ididn't get her name, so she was
telling me that there wasnothing to watch.
You know, I wanted to see somemovie with Brad Pitt.
I don't know what movie withBrad Pitt made, but she says

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they didn't have it on thetheater, so they didn't have it
there, so she had no choice towatch Superman.
She said she had no choice towatch Superman.
Okay, oh, I don't really likeSuperman and all that stuff.
You know, I just came here Justbecause they didn't have the
movie that I wanted to watch, soI had no choice to watch

(41:26):
Superman.
Well, there's Jurassic Park.
How can we not watch JurassicPark?
You know, she was a sweet lady,you know.
I just you know I'm the type ofguy Like we want to, like you
know, make a conversation, okay.
So.
And I told him, like you know,make a conversation, okay.
So.
And I told him.
I told him I'm a huge Supermanfan, you know.

(41:50):
I'm sorry, but I've been aSuperman fan since I was five
years old when my dad and my momtook me to see Superman in 1978
.
And I was even before the moviestarted, you know, even before
they were making the movie ofwith Christopher Reeve in 1978.
My dad used to watch Kirk Allen.
My mom would like tell my dad,you're making him watch too much

(42:10):
cartoons and all that shit.
But my dad used to draw, he wasan artist, he was a painter too
.
He would draw Superman.
I would ask my dad hey dad, canyou draw me a Superman ass?
He would draw.
Oh, you painter too.
He would draw superman.
I would ask my dad hey dad, canyou draw me a superman ass?
So you draw, okay, oh, you wantto draw a superman ass or you,
he'll join me.
The logo and everything and thecomic and all that stuff.
He would draw supermanliterally.
And um, that's how I became asuperman fan because my dad used

(42:33):
to watch kirk allen and georgereeve and also I would watch the
bat, the old 1960 with AdamWest.
But yeah, so this lady was justlike telling me, oh well, I'm
gonna see how it is, because thelast time I saw Superman and it
was with Christopher Reeve, the1978 one I go, oh really, I go,

(42:55):
well, that's cool.
I mean, yeah, my dad took meand the way I explained it, so
they were cleaning the theater.
That's why I mean, yeah, my dadtook me and the way I explained
it, so we, they were cleaningthe theater.
That's why we're just makingconversation, so we're waiting
for the, the, the employees toclean inside the theater because
they're probably with too muchpopcorn.
But, um, so we went in.
They finally cleaned it.
We went in and, um, we watchedthe movie.

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So when the movie ended, shecomes up to me because I was
sitting, like she was sittingbehind me and I was sitting in
the front, and she comes up tome and say, hey, I go.
Oh, hi, did you like it?
I go, yeah, I liked it, it wasawesome, it was amazing, you
know.
And she says I didn't go, youdidn't go, why not?

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I think it was.
Didn't you go?
You didn't you go?
Why not?
I think it was phony.
He looked phony, that Supermandidn't look like Superman at all
.
You go, really, you go, I thinkhe did.
You know.
I mean, remember, guys, shesaid that she was not even a
Superman fan and she didn't wantto see the movie.
She just had no choice to watchit and so she told me that I

(44:01):
didn't like it.
I think it was just a phonymovie.
He looked phony.
I go, why did you watch it inthe first place?
You know, a sweet lady, a sweetlady.
I go, why did you watch it?
I mean, I didn't tell her that.
But you know, I didn't want tobe rude.
But in my mind, I go, why didyou watch it in the first place?
And I forgot to mention thatwith the Gooch and I when we did

(44:24):
our podcast, I forgot tomention that in a podcast and
that I was talking to the ladyabout that and when I went to go
see it we were makingconversation.
I mean, it was a sweet lady.
You know she was an elderlywoman person.
She was in a wheelchair, youknow.
So you know, I made theconversation with her.
You go.
I mean, that's her opinion.

(44:44):
I mean I'm not going to fuckingbash her about it, but you know
what I'm just trying to tellpeople if you're not going to
watch, I mean if you're not afan, do not watch it, because
then at the end of the dayyou're going to talk crap about

(45:05):
it and then you're going tospread rumors.
Oh, it sucks to you becauseyou're not a fan.
Okay, to me it didn't, becauseI'm a fan.
That's the whole meaning ofbeing a fan, you know, you know.
You know that's the wholemeaning of being a fan.

(45:26):
You know, you know, and that'swhat I'm trying to say.
You know and I know I jumpedreal quick on the what I was
explaining about that guy fromTikTok.
I just wanted to point that outand I forgot to mention that.
But the guy in TikTok, he wasjust bashing about the fucking
movie, all that hype,expectation that he made.
Now he looks like an idiot, nowhe makes himself look like a

(45:51):
fool.
So I and I told him well, I'm asuperman fan, I liked it, it
was amazing.
I mean, you're a superman, youshould have loved it.
He even said that Superman 4 isbetter than fucking this movie
or James Gunn's movie.
Stop lying to yourself, guy.
Stop lying to yourself, guy,because I love Superman 4.
If I love Superman 4, I willlove this fucking movie too.

(46:13):
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I said.
I mean honestly, honestly,honestly.
I even watched Smallville andthe new Superman and Lois one
too, even though I don't havetime to watch it, because that's

(46:34):
why I set my DVR to record them, so I could watch them.
When I have time, like my daysoff, I'll watch it, because that
series it was badass too.
But this guy, he was justbashing the fucking movie.
I go, I thought you were aSuperman fan.
What's going on?
Why you're all so depressed.
You know, he was already cryingLike that, like serious, like a

(47:00):
grown man, I think he was.
He's probably like my age,probably like 45, maybe, I don't
know, I'm 52, I don't know man,I would give up his name, but I
don't want to give him thepraise.
You know, I don't know, it mademe.
It made me want to Fuckingunfollow him Because he's a
phony.

(47:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no llores,niño, no llores.
But um, it makes me want tounfollow him because he's a
phony.
You're such a phony dude You'resupposed to love Superman, no
matter who plays the fuckingpart.
Whatever the fucking situationof the movie is the storyline,

(47:41):
and it was a great storyline andJames Gunn wrote it and I'm
going to go watch it again.
I don't care how much theydidn't make in the box office.
I'm there just to support themovie because I'm a huge
Superman fan and he should bedoing the same thing.
You should support the movie.
Stop being a nagger, a whiner,a wanker.

(48:02):
Don't be no wanker.
I don't know man.
I'm telling you.
It's ridiculous.
These crybabies, they can'tenjoy the movie the way it is.
It's Superman, dude, it's afictional character.
Even I know that it's afictional character and people

(48:27):
are getting too fucking real,too personal about it.
Oh, James Gunn did it better.
Oh,You know, imagine if we would
have social media back in the80s when Batman came out,

(48:50):
because when Michael Keaton cameout as Batman, I knew I mean
okay, at that time there was noactor around to play the good
Bruce Wayne Batman.
At that time they only had back.
Then they were getting let.
That time there was no actoraround to play the good Bruce
Wayne Batman at that time.
They only had back then theywere getting, let's say,
A-listers actors.
Okay, I don't know who else wasup for the role for Batman, but

(49:12):
they had no choice to get Mr.
Mom as Batman, because MichaelKeaton was Mr.
Mom.
I don't know if you saw thatmovie and I knew it was a bad
choice.
Bruce Wayne doesn't havereceding hairline, you know what
I'm saying and I think he's 5'9or something like that, or 6'1.
Michael Keenan, to be honest, Idon't know.

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I don't creep up at theirprofessional thing, whatever you
call it their identity.
I don't know what the fuck I'mtalking about, but you know what
.
I didn't agree with that, buthey, it was a good movie.
He's not the best Batman, butit was a good fucking ass movie
At the time.
It was because there was nofucking Batman movie.

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We only had what the 1960s AdamWest Batman at the time, you
know, and they didn't takeBatman serious at the time
because he was gray and blue.
Now that Tim, what's his name?
I got the fucking Tim Burton.

(50:15):
There you go, Tim Burton.
When Tim Burton became thedirector and he made it badass,
that's when everybody startedknowing Batman.
Everybody started buyingfucking comic books about Batman
.
Oh, batman was dark because ofTim Burton made it dark.
That's why they know they loveBatman today, cause then
actually Tim Burton made himdark.

(50:37):
I mean Batman always been dark,but like in the movie I'm
talking about movie-wise and allblack and all that stuff,
because normally Batman's allblack and gray, blue and gray,
you know.
You know, I'm a Batman fan too,don't get me wrong.

(50:58):
But everybody was just bashingMichael Keaton at the time too.
Well, just imagine we wouldhave had social media back then,
how it would have been.
Like the way it is with umDavid Corenswet, with all the
fucking fucked up batman I meanfucked up superman or fucked up
batman.
It would have been going thesame way.
Oh, Michael Keaton wouldn't bea fucking badass.
He wouldn't be a badass,fucking batman.

(51:18):
Bruce Wayne, he's short, he hasa receding hairline, it's all
curly and all that stuff.
You know, I'm sorry my kid, Ididn't mean to bash you, but
that's, if social media wasaround at that time, you would
have got that fucking, all thatshenanigans.
But lucky for him it wasn't likethat.

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There was no social media, itwas all nothing but newspaper
and the news.
You know, and at the time I wastoo lazy to read a newspaper.
You know I didn't want to reada fucking newspaper.
I mean hell.
No, I regret it now.
I should have read a newspaper.
My speech, my grammar wouldhave been fucking perfect right

(51:59):
now.
You know, I don't know whoknows.
But um, like I said, this guywas just Fucking, crying About
fucking.
Oh, it was a Fucked up Supermanand you know he came out with
Low expectation.
He was all sad and he was all,like you know, hurt.
He was hurt.
You know I go Cry little.

(52:20):
You know I go cry little boy.
You know keep crying.
Keep crying Because you knowwhat that's accepted.
It was a fantastic movie for meand everybody's saying the same
thing.
It was amazing.
Everybody gave it 10-10.
And I gave it 8-10.
You know, I mean, it's juststarting.

(52:42):
The Superman is just startingand it explains in the movie.
Okay, it explains in the movieabout everything.
And it's not woke.
You people are woke.
You people can't accept thingsin life.
You guys can't deal withreality.

(53:05):
You guys are still living in abubble.
I mean Superman's been animmigrant, an alien.
I mean it's an alien, okay, notan immigrant.
Immigrants for what?
For a human being, or somethinglike that.
They're just calling him animmigrant because today's

(53:28):
actions, today's era, today'sdecade he's an alien from
another galaxy.
He's not even close to oursolar system, you know, and?
But this guy was just fuckingcrying.
He was like all upset.
He threw all his fucking itemsand the fucking.

(53:50):
You know they had those.
You know the movie popcornbuckets.
You know Superman with the newSuperman movie it was a new
popcorn buckets.
I wanted to buy that shit too.
I go, give that shit to me forfree.
I mean, if you're going to sellit, you're a hypocrite because
you know you're saying it'strash.
If it's trash, you just throwit out without selling it.
You know what I'm saying.
So give it to me, you know.

(54:14):
Mail it to me and don't give itaway.
Don't sell it, because if yousell it, you're you know you
sold it because you know to getthe money.
If you're saying it was trashthe whole movie was trash and
the whole items you want to getmoney for it.
You have your fucking stupidpride and you just throw it away

(54:35):
without getting paid for it.
You know it's like people likehe ripped his shirt too.
This shirt he has right here.
Like this one, he gets a, Ithink he gets scissors, I don't
know.
I was kind of worried too,because what happens if it slips
and he?
He will shank his, his underhis chin, his bottom chin,

(54:55):
because I was kind of worried, Ithink he he put it on TikTok.
I was kind of worried.
Go, oh, dude, watch it, dude,you're going to fucking shank
yourself.
And you, just because you'reangry, because when you get mad
and all that shit, you get angry, you you're about to have an
accident.
Because I see that shit at workwhen they're mad and they're
frustrated and you know they gethurt.

(55:16):
They don't know what they'refucking doing.
But this guy, he got scissors Ithink it was scissors or a
knife, I don't know what thefuck.
So he had a Superman, theoriginal Superman emblem, and he
had this shirt over it.
Okay, so he gets the scissorsand he rips it apart and he has

(55:39):
the original Superman logo.
He said this is the only shirtI want to wear, this is the one
that's a real superman, the realsuperman logo and all that shit
, the superman, Christopherreeve and all that stuff.
I go, dude, why did you fuckingrip that beautiful shirt?
I mean, he probably bought itin Walmart for $8.

(55:59):
I bought this in Amazon for $24, you know, $24, $24 actually.
But yeah, that's why he tore it, because it was probably only
worth $8,.
You know, even though Iwouldn't fucking do that, it's a
Superman, it's still fucking dothat.

(56:19):
It's a Superman.
It's still a Superman logo.
It's from Alex Ross.
Alex Ross designed this fuckinglogo.
James Gunn didn't fuckingdesign it, he only designed the
color.
That's about it, not the wholedesign, the logo.
I mean it's like a man child,you know.

(56:40):
I mean it's like a man-child,you know it's a man-child crying
because a baby didn't get whathe wants.
He was crying milk and hedidn't get the milk that he
wanted.
It's like a baby.
When you hear a baby crying, ifyou give him milk, if you don't
give him milk, he's going toget used to it and he's going to

(57:00):
keep crying because he has toget his way.
I don't know if I make sense onthat.
And then all the trolls.
Oh my gosh man.
It's like unbelievable.
People are not moving on.
The past is the past.
You got to move ahead.
Start getting used to acceptingthings.

(57:23):
Do your research on that.
How to learn how to acceptthings in life, how to lose
things in life.
Most of you out there are.
Just just because you watched Aman is Steel and BVS, you
really know about comics.
You know, and you think thatSuperman doesn't look right with

(57:45):
underwear's.
I mean, they call it.
What do they call it?
Diaper man, stupid.
What kind of childish shit isthat?
I mean, you can't tell thedifference between a diaper and
fucking trunks, everybody.
How ridiculous is that?
You're the ones that arefucking wearing diapers right
now.
You know what I'm saying.
You guys are all crying aboutit because it's earning money in

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the box office, but it's notearning enough, but still it's
still earning money.
We're only what like they payit on Friday, so right now
they're it's still playing it's,they're earning money right now
.
You know, I don't know, man, Imean that's why you go to the

(58:32):
theaters With low expectationsfirst.
Then, if you like it, then you,you come up with high
expectations, like me, like thismoron, and I think I'm going to
unfollow him.
To be honest, I can't really.
I don't, I can't.
I keep talking about it BecauseI can't stand it.

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I mean, sometimes I can't standmyself.
People at work can't even standme either, and they probably
want to fire me.
They probably want to fire me.
That's why they can't stand meFrom what I heard, because maybe
I'm I don't pay attention ormaybe I'm not doing my job right
.
But you know, if you're goingto do it, do it, you know.

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But yeah, I think I'm going tounfollow him because it's like
he's a phony.
Why would you want to do that toSuperman stuff like your items?
So now he got his items andhe's going to throw them in the
trash or he might sell them Likea baby.

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I don't want to fuck all this.
I don't know.
He tore his poster too.
They were, of course, with, youknow, the new design with all
red.
You know he's flying up andcrypto.
He tore his posters up Like abig baby.
Oh my gosh, dude, seriously,you know you're looking

(59:58):
ridiculous right.
And he putting.
He's posting that on fuckingInstagram, I mean on TikTok,
everybody.
He's posting that and shit onTikTok.
And you know what?
The Zack Snyder's are Probablyenjoying it the Zack Snyder fans
, the bots, what they call themMonkey bots, now the Henry

(01:00:25):
Cavill bots.
You know, they're probably like,they're probably following him
now, or or either laughing athim.
I told you so he, he, he.
They're probably laughing athim now because he had all the
high expectations and now he'slooking silly.
You know why are you?

(01:00:47):
Why are you doing that toyourself?
How are you?
It's already too late.
It's probably being repostedalready.
Why are you doing that toyourself?
How are you?
It's already too late, it'sprobably being reposted already.
Like, oh my gosh, what is thisguy doing?
What is he doing?
Why are you doing this toyourself?
You know why are you doing thisto yourself?

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Why are you doing a tantrum onTikTok about the new Superman
movie?
You had a high expectation.
You even posted that you can'twait for July 11th when it comes
out.
He was all posting it, he wasall promoting it.
He was excited.
You know you go, oh my gosh,what a crybaby, what a crybaby.
Oh my gosh, this isembarrassing.

(01:01:30):
You know he's like when he didall that shit, he was like
positive, like he couldn't speak, like kick back.
You know, sofrido, like youknow the suffering.
You know Like, like I don'tknow.

(01:02:01):
I just I just don't want to talkabout it anymore.
I mean, just by talking aboutit, it's just upsetting me.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't know, man, what do youguys think, man?
You think I mean, I get it,it's his opinion.

(01:02:24):
You could criticize it all youwant, but don't do it in,
fucking, don't do it in you knowTikTok and all that shit.
So people want to fucking hear.
I don't want to hear that shit.
You know, some people don'twant to probably hear me when
I'm fucking on the podcast too,you know.
But I don't know, I can't tellwhen you, when you're doing that

(01:02:45):
, you're depressing me, notbecause you don't like the movie
, it's just because I love themovie.
It's like you're like a chainreaction, like a whole domino
effect.
He wants to affect everybodyabout his emotional problems,
about the movie.
You know, I don't know, man,what am I gonna do?

(01:03:06):
I mean, it's ridiculous.
That's why you guys, when yousee a fucking trailer, you get
all fucking happy.
Your butthole picks and allthat shit.
You know it starts picking like, oh, I'm excited, it's
puckering and shit, you know.

(01:03:26):
And then when you go to themovies and you see, and when you
go watch it and you get lowexpectations, oh, my gosh, it
looks like you're gonna jump abuilding and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
But let's be honest.

(01:03:50):
I mean you don't.
But um, let's be honest, I meanyou don't.
If you don't like the movie,don't express it on social media
.
Okay, I don't know, for me Iwouldn't have done that.
Maybe he needs to see it thesecond time or the third time.
So he is, for I don't eventhink.

(01:04:11):
He probably got the movie.
I didn't think he get it, likewhat.
Maybe he was drunk and hefucking didn't pay attention to
it.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't know, for some reason Ithink he was drinking or drunk,
or I don't know, for somereason, for some reason, I think

(01:04:31):
he was probably drunk and hedidn't like it.
I mean, that's the way.
I mean I don't know, I'm just.
I'm just speculating what he,what he was doing in a theater.
What was he doing?
Was he paying attention about?
Was he paying attention to themovie?
Because I don't know I waspaying attention in the movie,
because I don't know I waspaying attention to the movie

(01:04:54):
and I had only two beers.
I think the movie was great.
I'm not going to spoil it righthere.
The movie was great.
It wasn't even woke.
I don't know what the fuckpeople are talking about, the
woke shit.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what they'retalking about, the woke shit.
I mean I don't know, I don'tknow what they're talking about,
this woke business crap and allthat shit.

(01:05:15):
But I think you guys are theones that are woke.
You guys are the ones that arewoke, not the movie.
You guys don't even know how toaccept things.
You guys get sensitive abouteverything.
I think you guys are the onesthat are woke, not the movie.
You know Fucking full of shit.

(01:05:40):
You guys are full of shit outthere.
I mean the movie was great.
Don't listen to people.
What they're saying in socialmedia, just fucking envious.
And this is what they wanted.
I mean, if you guys really thinkyou could do a good movie, why
don't you go to fucking filmschool or something?
Go to college and try to see ifwe could make a fucking good

(01:06:03):
movie?
Because let me tell you onething there's never a good movie
.
There's never once a good movie.
It's only what you fucking feel, not because it's only what you
fucking feel, not because it'sa masterpiece and all that shit.
There's no such thing as havinga masterpiece film.
There's never a good film.
It's what you like.
It's what your choice is.
It's your decision, what youlike, you're not going to force

(01:06:26):
someone to.
It's like, if I don't like amovie, I'm going to, hey, gonna
force someone to.
It's like.
So, if I don't like a movie,I'm gonna, hey, that fucking
movie sucks, you're gonnabrainwash that guy because, oh,
just because you said a moviesucks, you're gonna brainwash
him.
Poor little guy.
I mean, you're gonna brainwashhim.
Oh, okay, it's like.
Oh, my friend told me it sucks,you know.
And that idiot listens and somepeople out there are afraid to

(01:06:47):
say, oh, it's a good movie.
Like, um, this guy at at work,hey, did you see the movie
Superman?
I go, yeah, I go.
Hey, it was fucking great, itwas amazing.
Oh, it's alright, I go, Ithought you were a Superman fan.
You're supposed to be a teamSuperman, you know.

(01:07:09):
Oh, it was alright.
I mean, yeah, like I said,there's never a good film, but
you're a fan.
Of course there's going to be agood film, because it's your
type of movie, it's your choice,it's your decision.
What you like, you know.
Oh, it's all right.
Oh, come on, you serious.
And I tell them straight up youknow, I'm a huge Superman fan.

(01:07:32):
That's a fucking amazing movie.
I fucking love it.
I'm not going to say, oh, it'sall right, it could have been
better, it could have been good.
No, it was fucking amazing.
It was the way it's supposed tobe a comic book, fucking movie,
you know what.
And they were right, because Idon't know if you've seen the
animated series of Superman likethe cartoon 1994 around there I

(01:07:53):
think 1993, you know it wassomething like that and you know
what.
It must be good and sure it was, sure it was.
It was just exactly like theanimated series Superman and I
give my applause to that, toJames Gunn for giving us that
part of the movie, the flyingscenes.

(01:08:19):
It was awesome.
But that's one thing I don'tlike about these some of the
Superman fans I don't know ifthey're like 20% fans of being
Superman or 100% fans of being aSuperman fan, because I'm 100%.
Let me tell you one thing whenit's 100%, I'm fucking biased on
Superman.
I don't care they say Goku,what's his name?
Dragon Ball Z, that guy.

(01:08:40):
If they say he beats Superman,I'm going to say negative, he
fucking could.
Superman could fucking beatfucking Goku.
And if that was true, let me seeif they could beat a fucking
badass Goku movie or Dragon BallZ movie.
See if they could make a badassDragon Ball Z movie, because,
from what I know, the otherfirst fucking Dragon Ball Z or I

(01:09:04):
don't know the Chinese or Japanthey made a series of Dragon
Balls.
It doesn't look good, to behonest.
See if they make a good DragonBall Z movie and you know what
they're trying to make it, and Idon't think it's going to exist
.
It's not going to happenbecause it's not going to look
right.
It only looks right in animatedcartoons, to be honest.

(01:09:28):
To be honest, you guys aretalking about oh, goku could
beat Superman.
Well, let's see, superman isthe Godfather of comics.
He could beat anybody aroundthe world, okay, and he could

(01:09:49):
beat Goku on movies.
Dragon Ball Z.
Because, to be honest, I wantto live with you.
If they make a Dragon Ball Zmovie, it's not going to turn
out right.
Let me tell you one thing youguys will be disappointed,

(01:10:10):
because I saw the.
Which one?
Was it Dragon Ball Z?
No, dragon Ball, the Revolution, whatever Evolution, whatever
the fuck it's called.
It sucked, it really sucked,and you Dragon Ball fans know it
sucks too.
But if they make a movie of theDragon Ball Z, it's going to
suck too, you know.

(01:10:33):
But yet you guys are sayingSuperman could beat.
No, yet you could say thatDragon what's his name?
Goku could beat Superman.
That's a joke.
But, like I said again,superman could kick anybody's
ass, even what's his name?

(01:10:54):
Hyperman, whatever?
From Marvel Superium I don'tknow what the fuck his name is,
the copycat from with Marvel,copy from Superman.
No one cannot beat Supermaneverybody.
I'm a huge Superman fan.
I stand my word Supermaneverybody.

(01:11:16):
I'm a huge Superman friend.
I stand my word.
Oh, wrong, wrong effect.
It was supposed to be this one,but, like I said to the
crybabies out there aboutSuperman, the movie, the new one
, the 2025 Superman it's awesome, it's great.
Do not pay attention to allthose clowns out there, the
trolls.
You know what I'm sayingBecause it's an amazing movie.

(01:11:43):
In social media, you know whatthey're calling them now.
They're calling them monkeybots.
That shit's funny, dude, andwhen I saw it in James Gunn's
Superman movie, you could seeall the monkey bots talking
trash about Superman.
Monkey shit or what is it?
Superman shit, things like that.
I don't want to give it away.
I promise not to give it aspoiler and all that shit, but

(01:12:07):
that's what they're gettingcalled as monkey bots.
You know, and you know, thefunny part is these Snyder
friends.
I know 100% fact.
I even mentioned in my previousepisode that these Snyder bots
are going to go watch the movieand they're saying they're not,

(01:12:27):
but they went to go see it.
You know why, out of curiosity,that's why, and I knew it.
You know why, out of curiosity,that's why, and I knew it.
And now what they're doing?
It was trash.
I saw it, I knew it, but yousaw it right, you supported it,
you gave money.
I'm going to wait for a stream,but yet you're still paying for
stream streaming.
Stop being a hypocrite, youknow.

(01:12:50):
Stop contradicting yourself.
And you could spot them milesaway.
You could spot these fake comicbook readers, which they
supposedly do.
They do read comics supposedly,but yeah, they're talking trash

(01:13:14):
.
I mean, if you're a comic bookreader and you like all
superhero movies, you will likethe movie.
You will like the character.
Right, like me, I love thecharacter.
Oh, not the way Superman's allabout.
Oh, jor-el's parents were, orJor-El and laura.
Then um van are excuse me mythroat laura.

(01:13:38):
Now you know, superman's umkryptonian mother.
They were like trying.
Oh, I can't.
You know, sorry, I almostspoiled it right there.
You guys have to watch the movie, guys.
You know you guys got to justwatch the movie and see it for

(01:13:58):
yourselves and judge it foryourselves, to be honest, you
know.
I mean, don't be like theseknuckleheads, you know, just
judging it just because you know, you think you know, just
judging it just because you know, you think you know about
comics.
The funny part is when I readin one of the comments on TikTok
they said just because theywatched Zack Snyder's Justice

(01:14:23):
League and Henry Cavill man ofSteel and BVS, it's like just
because they watch it, theyalready know about comics.
And I started laughing, I put alaughing emoji and they all got
upset because that personcommented, made a comment on

(01:14:45):
that, and that was hilarious.
That was funny.
That was really funny.
Like I said again, everybody,like I said again, if you guys
are Superman fans, it will beterrific, you will love it.

(01:15:06):
No matter how it turns out, nomatter how the director does the
storyline, you'll still fuckinggo watch it and you'll still
accept it and you still willlove it.
I think it was amazing.
You know Superman did I mean,to be honest, superman did a lot

(01:15:32):
of saving in this movie, even afucking squirrel everybody and
Superman and Christopher Reeve.
He saves a cat stuck on a treeand gives it to the little girl.
Okay and Superman inChristopher Reeve's movie.
Okay and Superman andChristopher Reeves movie spoiler

(01:15:54):
alert.
But in this movie he savedeverybody, even a fucking
squirrel and a dog.
You know, you didn't see HenryCarvel doing that, you know.
I mean, don't get me wrong themovie was good.
It was not a masterpiece.
Not even BVS was a masterpiece.
They were good.

(01:16:14):
Okay, there's no such thing ofa best movie.
To be honest, just fucking watchthe movie and shut up and eat
the popcorn.
You know what I'm saying.
That's all you got to do.
That's all you got to do.
Just shut up and watch themovie and judge it to yourself.
Yes, we all got opinions.

(01:16:34):
We all have opinions about themovie.
My cup fell, it got mad, but um, it all got.
We all have opinions.
We all have opinions about youall have opinions about.
You know anything.
But you guys got to learn howto take an opinion from others,

(01:17:01):
because some of you guys outthere don't.
And that's all I got to say.
Just, we all have opinionsabout the movie.
If you don't like it, so okay,but if you know you don't like
the movie you're not a fan ofSuperman and you know you're

(01:17:21):
going to go watch it and youdon't like it, just to come out
and say that you didn't like it.
Dude, why did you go and watchit?
You just want to watch it, justto talk crap about it, just
because you're not a Supermanfan.
You know what I'm saying?
It just makes you look like afool, that's all.

(01:17:42):
But, like I said, again, that'syour opinion.
But you know what?
The only thing is that youstill supported the movie.
You supported the movie, yousupported the movie, you
supported James Gunn and yousaid you were not going to watch
it because you think it's trash, you think it's childish and
all that shit.
You know what?
You still supported the movieand you're still supporting the

(01:18:03):
streaming service.
And then it's Max and it's fromDC and Warner Brothers.
Regardless, you lose, you lose.
That's all for today, guys.
All my rant and all that stuff,you know.
And then, um, that's all I cansay about it.

(01:18:25):
You know, stop being niggers,stop bickering about the movie.
It was awesome, it was great,amazing.
I loved it Because you know whyI'm a Superman fan.
This is The e Talkers Podcast,Unscripted.
My name is Joe and the Gooch.

(01:18:47):
Sorry he couldn't make it.
I'm doing a standalone today.
We do our podcast on theSundays at 2.30 pm, pacific
Standard Time and Mountain Time.
3 pm no 3.30 pm, mountain Time.

(01:19:12):
Everybody I mean, that's howit's supposed to be Do not drink
and drive everybody.
Be safe out there.
Be safe.
Do not drive too fast on thefreeways.
There's a lot of consequenceson that too on drinking and
driving and driving fast.
At least 125 miles per hour.
You're driving fast.
There's a lot of consequenceson that.

(01:19:33):
There's no fucking highwaypatrol around in sight.
That sucks.
They're not doing their job.
But save a life officers outthere.
If you're hearing me, save alife Because they're speeding
like wildfire out there andyou're not doing anything about
it.
That's all I can say.
My name is Joel.

(01:19:54):
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