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Thank you very much, and youknow just a lot of things I want
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to talk about, about the newSuperman movie that's just
coming out and I'm reallyinterested and looking forward
to watching this movie becauseit's directed by James Gunn.
So I want to see how it turnsout.
I mean, I cannot judge themovie just by the trailer.
I can't say it sucks.
I can't say it's going to begood, because we have to see it
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before we judge it.
So I'm just going to give thebenefit of the doubt.
But I know James Gunn's goingto nail it.
Most of us Superman fans arerooting for James Gunn to nail
it.
I mean, in my perspective, Ithink it's gonna look.
It looks pretty good.
I mean the coloring and youknow the way David Corswad plays
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the role of Superman.
We got to watch it for us tojudge it first, because there's
a lot out there, a lot of trollsright there, just, you know,
trolling it trolling the moviebefore it's even out, yet it
hasn't even came out, andeverybody's just judging it.
They did the same thing withZack Snyder.
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You know everybody was justjudging it just because of the
trailer came out and they werejust talking crap about it.
And even with man of steel, youknow, and um, I was there.
I mean, I was, I was alive towatch it to see how they were
judging this on movie, uh, ZachSnyder's um BVS and the man of
steel.
Uh, especially when they weredoing the casting calls on man
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of steel.
You know what I'm saying samething, it's all the same shit,
same routine and all that shit.
Just to you know, I mean it'sthe same thing.
I mean it's all with BrandonRoth, with Superman Returns.
You know, they're comparing itwith Christopher Reeve, but the
Superman 2, it came out in 2006,.
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Okay, so they were saying thesame thing about Brandon Roth on
Superman Returns.
When they saw the trailer, itlooked pretty good, right, and,
uh, I mean, as me, as a supermanfan, I, I don't care, I go, oh,
it looks pretty good, you knowit's superman, you know it's
superman.
But most of all, the trolls, uh, back in the day, I mean, they
were saying that he was, uh, helooked like more like Superboy.
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Just the same thing they'resaying about Davis course, with
superman.
Oh, it looks like super boy.
This is, this is the same thingof uh for um superman returns
or Brandon Routh.
Okay, that he looks more likesuper boy and he doesn't look
like, uh, like superman.
Okay, um, technically, BrandonRouth was supposed to play the
role of Christopher reeve and,um, I mean we're going to the
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same same phase again, okay.
And then, um, superman returnsdidn't make it in the box office
.
I mean it may feel, but uh, itain't, or it ain't past the
budget, okay, I mean it just uh,it wasn't too well done.
Okay, the script was really bad, but I'm not here to knock it
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down.
I mean, I, I'm a huge Supermanfan.
I liked it.
Okay, it's not the best one,you know, it's not a masterpiece
, but it was good.
You know, it was just amanticore movie, okay, and it's
just that.
My point is that we're goingthrough the same shit repeating
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itself again.
Every new Superman, it's tryingto top everybody, like Brandon
Roth oh, he's not ChristopherReeve, and all that stuff.
And then Henry Cavil came oh,he's not Brandon Roth, and all
that stuff.
They were saying the same thingabout Henry Cavil he was not
going to make a great Superman.
And this was before Even themovies started shooting and all
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that stuff.
They were saying the same thingabout Henry Cavil he was not
going to make a great Superman,okay, and this was before even
the movie started shooting.
Okay, they were criticizing manof Steel, they were just
knocking down the actor too.
And the same thing is goingwith David Corenswet.
Okay, they're still knockinghim down because he's not
Brandon.
I mean, what's his name?
He's not Henry Cavil.
I mean, it's the same shit.
We're just seeing it every day.
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There's always a complaint.
You can never win.
These are not really Supermanfans.
These are maybe fans of theirfavorite directors.
Other people tend to like eachdirector Like James Gunn's a
great director.
That doesn't make me I'm aJames Gunn fan.
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It makes me a Superman fan, butnot a James Gunn fan because
he's a director for Superman.
There's some fans of directorslike Zack Snyder.
He has fans, okay, because theylike the way he visuals and how
he directs the movie andbecause he has these visuals he
has when he directs.
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Okay, am I making myself evenclearer?
You know, I mean I'm justsaying I mean we've seen the
same thing again and they evensaid the same thing about BvS,
that ben Affleck was not a greatbatman.
Bruce Wayne, which I alwaysthought he was on, and when I,
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when I was reading the all theinternet stuff and the media and
the social social network, theywere just knocking on ben
Affleck because you know benAffleck, in some roles he's
always like crying.
You know, ben Affleck, in someroles he's always like crying.
You know, like Armageddon hewill cry.
I think in Daredevil too hewill like kind of like little
sentimental little parts.
I mean that tends to be a goodactor.
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When you cry something likethat and it's believable, that's
a great actor.
Okay, not even a great actor, abest actor.
Because you know what?
I cannot make myself cry.
I don't know if you guys canover there.
If you're a great actor, if youcould cry automatically at will
, then you're a great actor.
But if you can't, you're notthe great actor.
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Because Ben Affleck, on some ofhis movies he tends to be
emotional.
He could cry at will, okay, andit tends to be a best actor,
okay.
And um, and he, he won a bestum, what is it a oscar for the?
He directed him in.
Um, what's his name?
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Oh, my gosh, I forgot hisfriend.
Well, what's his name?
Um, matt damien, okay, him andBen Affleck written that movie.
What's it called?
Good Way Hunting?
He wrote the movie and directedit, or maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe they written the movie andthey got a Best Actor Award,
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okay, or they won an award forit for an Oscar, okay, and they
were just knocking down BenAffleck as being Batman, Bruce
Wayne, you know.
And then there were criticismsin the movie of BVS.
When they saw the trailer, okay, and they were saying that
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Doomsday, when they first sawDoomsday in the trailer, he
looked like a Ninja Turtle, justknocking it down like that.
Okay, they were saying thatSnyder day , when they saw, when
they first saw Doomsday in thetrailer, he looked like a Ninja
Turtle.
They're just knocking it downlike that, okay, they're saying
that Zack Snyder's not a greatdirector.
They're saying that, oh man,this movie's going to be bad.
You know, and most of these,the ones that were knocking them
down, these are the ones thatsaw the movie and said, oh shit,
it's fucking great, it's good.
And then when they saw themovie, they were just knocking
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it down.
Oh, Martha, this Martha thatyou know, things like that, you
know.
And when they saw the trailer,they were just knocking it down.
Okay, the same thing.
They're going with David Corset,with James Gunn's new Superman
movie, same shit.
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And then, you know, it's kindof like, the more they hate the
movie, the more they're going toget tired.
They're going to say, oh, Igive up.
I'm going to go watch it.
That's what they're going to do, because they did the same
thing with BVS and man of Steel.
And don't get me wrong, I meanI like the movie man of Steel
and BVS.
I mean I like the movie man ofSteel and BVS, but I'm not a fan
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of the director.
You know, I'm a huge Supermanfan and a Batman fan and that's
why I tend to watch it and gosee it.
You know, and the ones that areknocking James Gunn's movie, the
new Superman movie, they'reknocking it.
Oh, I'm not going to go watchit Because they're not Superman
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fans, you know.
They're not going to watch itbecause they're not.
They're.
It's not Zack Snyder justbecause they're director-wise.
Every person has their favoritedirectors.
Okay, like me, my favoritedirector is Mel Gibson.
Okay, and if someone would takeover the new movie movie he's
coming out, he's going to directthe Passion of Christ, the
Resurrection, the new one, thesequel.
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If Mel Gibson won't direct it,I'm not going to watch it Same
shit, because I'm a huge MelGibson fan.
Okay, but I'm still going towatch it.
You know, let's see how itlooks, because curiosity kills
the cat.
You know, same shit.
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You know, excuse my language.
These guys are just all thesetrolls that are knocking down
James Gunn's new Superman movie.
Everyone in the social medianetworks, like Facebook and all
that, and Instagram, they're alljust talking crap.
It looks shitty.
It looks like diaper man andwhich is not even a diaper.
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You can't even tell thedifference between trunks and a
diaper.
Come on, that's trunks, notdiapers.
Okay, I'm telling you, I don'tknow, and you know what I did
All these laughing emojis whenthey're talking crap about the
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Superman movie, the new onethat's coming out.
I mean I'm not talking crap.
I mean we're saying like, oh, Ican't wait to see this movie.
They put laughing emojis LikeIs that supposed to hurt?
You know you could laugh allyou want.
You could put all theselaughing emojis all you want.
It's because you're hurtingfrom the inside.
We're not hurting becauseyou're laughing at us.
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You're hurting because you knowyou're just hiding your
feelings.
You know, and you haven't evenseen the movie yet and you're
just judging it.
I mean, it looks pretty good.
But I don't say it's not goingto be a great movie.
We don't know yet.
I think the flying things lookpretty good.
It looked better than man ofSteel.
Let me tell you one thing itlooks better than man of Steel,
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I think, in every Superman movie.
You know, I mean no one hasn'tseen this movie yet and
everybody's just talking crap.
You know, I mean no one hasn'tseen this movie yet and
everybody's just talking crap.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I think we all have towatch the movie first.
It doesn't have nothing to dowith being a who's the director
of the movie.
You know, sure, James Gunn hasa record history of great movies
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.
But I'm not going by becausehe's directing.
I'm going there because I'm aSuperman fan.
You know what I'm saying andthat's what I'm doing.
I think all of us Superman fansare going there to go watch the
movie, because it's just towatch the new Superman movie,
because I'm really excited tosee the movie, because the
costume is great.
I mean I wasn't a big fan of thecostume, the emblem.
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I the costume's great.
I mean, I wasn't a big fan ofthe costume, the emblem.
I wasn't a big fan of theemblem at first, but it started
growing on me.
Okay, it started growing on me.
Oh, you know what it's working.
The suit is there.
It's bright.
You know the muscles are notshiny.
You know the muscles are notshiny.
You know, that's the one thing.
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What the costume doesn't haveIn the movie you could see some
of the parts of the trailer thathe looks like.
You could see his muscles andeverybody's saying, yeah, cgi,
yeah it is.
I mean, who's going to wear atight costume in a hot day?
You know, because I hear a lotof actors want to complain.
Who's going to wear a tightcostume in a hot day?
You know, because I hear a lotof actors when they complain how
tight these suits are and it'sreally unbearable wearing a
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costume when they have to usethe restroom.
You know they have to use therestroom, pee-pee or take a crap
.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I don't know.
I think everybody just has toopen their minds to wait to
watch the movie first.
You know what I'm saying.
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Open your mind.
Open your mind, right?
I think everybody has to opentheir mind first, watch the
fucking movie first, and thenyou voice your opinion on about
it, because everybody's justjudging oh, it's a lot going on,
well, yeah, but it's a fuckingtrailer.
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It's bit by bit, it's strip bystrip by strip.
You know, it's just giving youthe idea.
You know there's going to beaction, there's going to be some
parts going to be a little love, romantic and all that stuff.
You know, we just got to waitand see.
And a lot of trolls are justtrying to damage you because
they're all butthurt becauseZack Snyder's not directing it,
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you know.
And then everybody's all oh,why does it have to be Zack
Snyder's cult list?
But you're the ones thatstarted the fucking whole shit.
Restored Zack Snyder's, blah,blah, blah, restore it, restore
it.
And then when we comment thatwe love them, we want to see
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James Gunn, we can't wait.
You guys are the first ones tofucking make an opinion.
All you guys are the ones thatare saying it's diaper man and
all that shit.
You can't even tell thedifference between a diaper and
trunks.
That's what shows howintelligent you are.
I'm not intelligent myself, butit's common sense that you
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compare trunks to a diaper, Ithink a diaper is.
Know.
You compare trunks to a diaper,you know I think a diaper is
more puffy than trunks.
You know, I don't see that histrunks are like puffy, like you
know, like a real diaper.
You know?
And they're saying the samething about Superman Returns,
about Brandon Roth, becausethey're saying that David Cole's
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sweat looks like Superboy.
What a joke.
It's the same thing as BrandonRoth, the same thing that he
looks like Superboy.
It's just an excuse.
You guys, all you trolls, arejust mouthing off.
You know.
You're just trying to, you know, make us all Superman fans
pissed off.
You know?
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And I check all your profiles.
You know what I'm saying.
I go, and the ones that arelaughing, I check their profiles
.
None of them have no interestin comic books.
Most of them are Spawn Imagecomic books.
Most of them are Marvel.
Most of them are Zach Snyder,they love 300.
They love Sucker Punch and allthat stuff.
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What's the other one?
Sailor Moon, whatever the fuckit's called?
And most of them don't evenhave no interest in comics, not
even one Superman picture andone of those laughing emojis.
And you know what I'm right.
And some of you out there thatare bashing this movie have kids
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.
Okay, they have kids and I'mpretty sure one of their kids,
or son or little boy, whoever agirl, I'm pretty sure they're
going to ask Daddy, can you?
You know they're going to askpretty soon, you know.
Clip (19:07):
Daddy,
Joe (19:07):
can
you take me to watch Superman?
No, son, I don't want to gowatch Superman.
Come on, Daddy, I want to seeSuperman the movie, the new one.
No, I don't like that movie, son, because it's directed by James
Gunn.
Clip (19:20):
Why, dad, please?
I want to go see it.
No, I said no, I want to seethe Superman movie.
Joe (19:33):
Okay, okay, okay, son, okay
, I'll go with you, okay, me.
Well, I'll take you to go seeSuperman.
Thank you, daddy, thank you verymuch, love you.
Thank you, daddy, thank youvery much Love you, thank you
daddy.
Okay, I'll take you tomorrow.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure their kids aregoing to fucking cry about to
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see this movie.
Beg their parents to go watchthis movie.
You know why?
Because they want to seeSuperdog on Krypto.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm pretty sure.
Nice.
And I know for a fact all ofthem that are bashing the movie
they're going to all go to seeit and, like Amazon just
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announced, they're going to havethis first screening on Amazon
Prime and I think you got toapply for it by July 7th or
something like that Somewherearound there.
And the ones that are talkingcrap non-fans of Superman are
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the first ones that are going togo apply for it.
You know what I'm saying and Iknow for a fact.
They are because they did thesame thing with BVS and man of
Steel.
Everybody was just talking crapabout fucking Zach Snyder on
the BVS the Martha Martha scene.
They were just making fun of itand if they were really Zack
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Snyder fans, they would havemade this movie a fucking
billion at the box office.
I mean, I think it only madelike $800 million in the box
office.
I mean just domestic.
I mean it didn't make that much.
It was there.
I mean it was even with thebudgets that they made the movie
.
You know?
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I mean don't get me wrong Ilove the movie.
You know.
I mean, if it's Superman, it'sSuperman okay, but most of these
fans are trolling.
It's just talking crap, talkingshit, everything.
They have to nitpick the waythey I mean they're making fun
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of the new Superman movie withthe trailer.
They're freeze phrasing thestills of the movie, the trailer
, the way he looks.
They make these, you know, inevery picture and it goes for
everybody who takes a picture.
You know.
I even hate when they take apicture and they give me in a
still shot or a stop shot, youknow, and it's all still.
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You pause it and you make thisfunny face.
You look weird.
It happens to every fuckingactor, you know, or anyone who
does a still shot.
I go oh man, I come out.
Fucking.
I look like fucking Sloth fromfucking Goonies, you know.
Hey you guys.
You know that's stupid.
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All this is all fuckingbullshit.
Just, I mean, all these trollsare just fucking bashing it
Because they're all hurt,because some of them are Zack
Snyder fans, director fans.
Okay, to me I think they'relike um, fans of um making films
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, like they go to school and allthat stuff and they're like oh,
you know, Zach Snyder is mybest director, you know they're
probably going to film school orsomething like that.
Oh, James know, Zack Snyder'smy best director.
You know they're probably goingto film school or something
like that.
Oh, James Gunn has a lot ofcolor, it's a lot of it looks
childish and all that stuff.
Well, superman's supposed to belike that.
You know, yes, superman, backthen, when he first in 1938, his
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first comic, the firstappearance of Superman, yes, it
was dark at the beginning, hewas already brutal, but it was
getting out of control.
So they stopped it.
So they had, you know what,superman's getting too dark in
the comics, so they had tochange it.
That's why some of his comicsare kind of ridiculous.
You know, I think it stopped in1946, around there After World
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War II.
You know, yeah, and yeah, Imean, his first issues were kind
of dark but they changed it up,you know.
I mean, like on the man ofSteel, he used violence, there
was a lot of collateral damage.
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Yeah, that was pretty good.
I liked it, I enjoyed it.
You know, that's the waySuperman was supposed to be.
It's just like the animatedmovies, I mean the cartoons.
You know, that's the waySuperman was supposed to be.
It's just like the animatedmovies.
I mean the cartoons.
You know what I'm saying.
They're all damaging buildingsand all that stuff, all
collateral damage.
They were complaining aboutthat too.
I go wait a minute, it's justlike the animated cartoon, you
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know.
And they're complaining.
When Superman, superman, killsZod, you know, I mean he killed
in in comics too.
He killed in on superman too.
I mean he didn't like twist hisneck or anything but um, he
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just uh, threw him out and theyfall in the fortress of solitude
.
The fortress of solitude, andtypically, you know what was I
going to say?
That word Technically?
There it goes.
Technically in Superman 1 and 2of the movie, superman the movie
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and superman two, thedirector's cut from Richard
Donner.
His original storyline was um,when superman two, when, um,
okay, when superman one, hethrows a rocket on the space
right and then he continues tosuperman 2 and then he throws a
rocket in superman 2.
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It destroys the.
The phantom zone was Zod andnon and Ursula was in.
That was superman 2.
That was the, the real plot onthat one.
And um, then that's when Loislane figured about Clark Kent's
identity as being Superman.
So Superman too.
He reversed the Earth so hecould erase Lois Lane's memory
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for thinking Superman is ClarkKent or Clark Kent is Superman.
That was the storylineBasically.
It was Technically that was thestoryline.
But the Salkind's had firedRichard Donner so they had to
went to Richard Lester to directthe movie superman.
So this is why it's all mixedup in confusion.
On superman the movie, you know,and um, but I mean, it's the
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same shit.
We're just hearing the sameshit, criticizing the actor,
criticizing the, the way themovie is.
We haven't even seen Supermanthe movie with James Gunn.
I believe it's going to, Ithink James Gunn's going to nail
it, even though I haven't seenit.
But it's just speculation I'mdoing.
You know, anybody could havetheir opinion, you know.
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But there are some people thatlike to give opinions but then
they cannot take their opinions.
If I make an opinion and thenwhen someone throws it back at
me and then I get mad.
That's kind of stupid, isn't itagain?
Then I shouldn't, I should notmake an opinion, opinions.
If someone's gonna have a knownopinion too, you know, someone
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cannot dish it out.
Some of you out there cannotdish it out.
I mean, that's what I.
I think.
You know, everybody just likesto talk crap about the trailers,
judging the trailer theyhaven't even seen yet.
I mean the movie hasn't beenout.
They just judged the trailer.
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I said it wrong.
They just judged the trailerthinking that the movie's going
to suck.
And I say I judged the movie, Imean the trailer, and I say I
think it's going to be good.
Yes, I'm genuinely, but Ihaven't even seen it yet.
I say I think, hence the word Ithink.
Do you think?
Yes, I do.
Do you think, yes, I do.
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But it's not because I thinkI'm just saying, it's common
sense.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know, we just got towait and see.
You know, some people out there, they just get mad, they're
just hurt because their favoritedirectors are not directing it.
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There's between comic fans andthe director fan.
Okay, I'm a comic book fan, nota movie fan.
A comic book fan, a cartoon fan, like Superman, I like Popeye,
I like Mickey Mouse.
I'm a huge fan of Mickey MouseAlways have since I was five
years old and Superman as well,and also Popeye, and you know it
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.
Just, I mean, if they make amovie of Popeye, I'm going to,
I'm going to the way I'm hearingthey're going to make Popeye.
It's like it's it's going to bestupid.
Okay, they should make it theway he should be, like I just
watched a movie on Amazon.
It's so ridiculous.
I mean, I, you know, I justwant to check it out and watch
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it.
The Popeye Slayer man.
You know, it was kind of cheesy.
It could have been good andgreat, but it was kind of cheesy
.
But I still watched it becauseI'm a huge fan of Popeye.
You know, you see what I'mgetting through, you see where
I'm getting at.
You see where I'm getting at mypoint.
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It doesn't matter who'sdirecting it.
If I'm a huge Popeye fan, I'mgoing to watch Popeye the Slayer
man.
Okay, that's what I'm trying toget at.
That's what I'm trying to get ateverybody, and maybe the ones
that are laughing about, likethe emojis, they're probably
just fans or just fucking, justtrolling.
They're just trying to sit usin the rage or something.
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They're just trying to sit usin the rage or something.
They're just trying to piss usoff or something like that.
You know, I mean that's whatI'm thinking, you know, just to
piss everybody off.
Like me, I'm a huge.
I mean I'm a Superman fan,right, and I mean I like Batman
versus Superman and man of Steel.
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And everybody's getting at umthe Zack Snyder fans in the
social media and I'm laughing atthem too.
You know, even though I likethe movies too, Zach Snyder and
and um man of Steel and BVS.
But I'm laughing when they're.
When the people are against theZack Snyder fans too, I'm
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laughing at them too.
I'm laughing at the Zack Snyderfans Even though I like the
movie Zack Snyder, like the BVSand man of Steel, because I
don't have no favorite director.
I just watch the movie becauseI'm into Superman and Batman.
Okay, I'm laughing at them too.
I'm putting my emojis I thinkthat's what they're doing Just
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to piss us off.
You know, maybe the people thatare laughing at the David
Corset Superman, they'reprobably fans of Superman.
They're just, you know, justtrying to piss us off, us
Superman fans.
You know, I'm a Superman fan,but I'm doing the same thing.
I'm putting laughing emojis andlaughing at the Zack Snyder
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fans, but I do like the movies.
You see what I'm saying.
I do like the movies of Batmanversus Superman and man of Steel
, but it's not because I'm a fanof the director.
I'm a fan of the director.
I'm a fan of the character Bigdifference, superman.
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Even though the Flash was good,I'm a huge fan of the Flash, but
I still watch it, even thoughit wasn't good.
It could have been better.
I guarantee you, if it wouldhave made it to the, guarantee
you, if it would have made it tothe Flash Paradox, it would
have made a billion dollars.
You know what I'm saying.
But even though I didn't agreewith the movie, I still watch it
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because I'm a huge Flash fan.
Okay, that's the onlydifference.
And, like I'm saying, all thesepeople that are doing the
laughing emojis and all thatstuff, they're just trolling,
they're just talking their.
I even said you guys are justtalking a lot of crap.
You guys are going to watch itout of curiosity.
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You guys have kids.
If you guys have kids, you guysare going to take them to watch
Superman.
Believe me, we're seeing thesame shit all over again.
It's the same thing.
This shit was starting, thisshit was in since.
This shit was since Superman,the movie, since 1978.
They were going to get ClintEastwood, the original actor, to
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play Superman, was going to beClint Eastwood in 1978, but he
turned it down.
But luckily that ChristopherReeve auditioned.
He was the right person to playthe part.
There was a lot of ton ofactors who were going to play
Superman, like SylvesterStallone as well, and and where
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everybody was oh, he's not goingto play, even with Michael
Keaton, everybody.
Just, we didn't even have no topay the rent.
Even with Michael Keaton,everybody.
Just, we didn't even have nointernet back then.
This was on newspaper.
Oh, he's not going to make a,he's not going to be the right
choice of Batman, bruce Wayne.
Oh, he's short, he's 5'9".
Batman and Bruce Wayne,supposed to be like 6'2 or 6'3".
You know.
Same shit.
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And then what?
And then the end of the day,what are they going to do?
They're going to fuckingWorship this movie, the James
Gunn movie, superman, Iguarantee you.
And then Everybody's going tohear A word of mouth oh, it's a
fucking Badass movie.
Oh man, I misjudged the trailer.
The trailer fooled us.
That's the whole main point Ofthe trailer To fool us.
And I know James Gunn thetraitor fooled us.
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That's the whole main point ofthe trailer to fool us.
And I know James Gunn istrolling us, or trolling the
trolls, because if you troll atroll, the troll is going to
troll you, because there's a bigdifference of a troll.
There's a small troll, there'sa bigger troll and James Gunn is
the bigger troll.
That's the difference about atroll.
Look it up.
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There's two different kinds oftrolls and, like I say again,
this has been going on sinceyears, years.
Do it, you know, and it'sridiculous.
And the funny do it, you know,and it's ridiculous.
And the funny part is that ifall of you guys out there look
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at their laughing emojis, like Isaid earlier, none of them had
no fucking clue about DC, nointerest of DC comics or not
even a fan of Superman, butthey're fans of directors like
Zack Snyder.
Some of them are into the ImageComics or some of them are
anime like Dragon Ball Z, whichthe creator got the influence
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from Superman.
Okay, he said it himself.
Okay, he said it himself and umand that's.
It's been going on, it's beengoing on and you know, I think
someone has to say just fuckingsay it.
I mean it's ridiculous.
I mean you guys are justfucking talking crap and you
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don't even know how the movie'sgonna to turn out to.
From what I know, James Gunnknows how to tell a story.
Okay, makes movies with a storyon it, like Guardians of the
Galaxy.
No one didn't know nothingabout Guardians of the Galaxy.
No one didn't knew about therewas a comic called Guardians of
the Galaxy.
Maybe some hardcore Marvelcomic fans that read comic books
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literally read comic books.
They knew about this.
But some of you that are intothe Guardians in the Galaxy end
up knowing now since the moviecame out.
Oh, it's a badass movie.
Oh, made, James Gunn nailed it.
Oh, rocket Raccoon looksfucking cool Star lord was
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awesome Star lord was awesomein the movie Because James
Gunn's known as no one doesn'tknow the characters and he
brings them up to live in atheater and they get popular.
Okay, that's what James Gunndoes.
In other words, he getsunderrated characters and he
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makes them popular.
Okay, most of you trolls don'tknow that, or the ones that
don't read comics, and the funnypart is some of these trolls
are not.
I know some of these trolls areprobably like Superman fans,
some of them are just directorfans and some of them don't even
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know nothing about Superman andthey're just talking crap about
, oh why Superman has no, whyhe's getting pain when he has no
powers, when the sun is hittinghim.
I go, you obviously haven'tread a Superman comic book.
You haven't know his story, hisorigin, how he gets power from
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the sun.
You know, you got to thinkabout it, superman, when he goes
all out on fighting but hedoesn't hold back, just like on
Doomsday.
He went all out on Doomsday.
He drained all his powers untilhe died, or Kryptonian coma.
Technically, he didn't die, hejust was in a coma.
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He died.
Maybe he was just in a coma.
Everybody thought he died, butit's because Superman drained
all this power and he was on theearth and the Sun was still
there, okay, and it takes awhile for him to energize up.
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It doesn't just happen rightaway.
It's an.
It's in the comic book.
That's why he wears the blacksuit.
Okay, he wears the black suitto restore his energy from the
sun.
It's like when you wear a blackshirt on a hot day.
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What do they tell you?
Do not wear black, because thesun attracts the black.
It heats up more.
That's the same thing with theSuperman black suit.
Okay, it attracts the sun more,it's.
I mean, some of you out there,some of you out there don't
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really understand the Supermanmythology, you know.
Or people bitching about cryptooh, it looks childish.
Well, I think that's a smartmove, don't you think?
To make more money in the boxoffice.
That's a good move.
That's good marketing.
And I think the toys look betterthan Superman Returns and
Superman and man of Steel.
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I was looking at the toys, theaction figures.
They look fucking awesome.
I'm done buying toys, by theway.
You know I have a lot ofSuperman toys.
It's just like wire, I mean.
I know they're fun to collectand hang them around in my room
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and all that stuff, but I don'tgot no place to put them, no
more.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm 52 years old.
I think I should quit now, stopplaying with toys.
Well, now, playing with them.
I just have them as acollection, but I would love to
buy them.
But I think they look betterthan the Superman Return toys.
I don't know if you've seen theSuperman Returns.
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You know there are Supermanreturn toys.
I don't know if you've seen theSuperman returns, you know.
No, no offense to Brandon Roth,but I mean those actually I
bought.
I bought it, don't get me wrong.
I bought the Superman returnswith Brandon Roth.
I mean it looked kind of cheesy, you know what I'm saying.
It looked kind of weird, youknow.
But now I look at the day we'recoarsely Superman, the new one
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that's coming out, it looksbetter, you know it's.
I mean, it's more.
It looks more articulate.
Articulate.
I mean, excuse me, it looksmore articulate.
I don't know if I'm pronouncingthe word right, but because
that's that's the main thingwhat I do when I buy a fucking
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toy, I I got to see howarticulate it looks.
Okay, I'll have to look for thedetail.
Is it right, is it missingpaint, is it off or anything?
That's what I look at.
If I see a little fucking paintmiscolored on the skin or
something like that, I won't buyit.
But if I see it like perfectlysculpted and perfectly painted,
I'll buy it, you know.
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But the new toys that arecoming out, the new Superman
movie, it looks pretty good.
It looks better than you know,than ever.
You know it makes me want tobuy it, but I think I give up
buying toys already I do.
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I mean, you know, it's just $14for an action figure.
God damn, that's too much, youknow, and it's what it is.
I want to show you somethingbecause back in the day, you
know, has anybody seen these newSuperman commercials?
Back in the day we used to havethese Superman toys, you know,
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or in the commercials we, youknow, back in the day, we have
toys that come out incommercials and all that stuff.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, this is what I firstsaw on TV, that they put a
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commercial of toys of superman.
I mean, this reminds me likeback in the day, you know, when
we were kids.
First off, I saw.
First of all, when I saw thiscommercial of the new superman
toys.
They announced this on thecommercial I go, man, this looks
like uh nostalgia, like back inthe 80s when we used to be kids
eating our cereal.
We'll watch before we're goingto school.
They had these commercials oftoys coming out.
They brought that back.
(42:15):
Take a look, watch.
It brings me back when I was achild, like I was a kid.
It brings me back.
It makes me want to eat cerealalready.
I want to watch this commercial.
Check it out.
Clip (42:31):
Watch out A giant like.
It makes me want to eat cerealalready when I watch this
commercial.
Check it out.
Watch out, a giant kaijumonster is destroying the city.
This looks like a job forsuperman.
He flies in with a powerfulpunch, ew, slime explosion.
The kaiju is reloading for abigger battle.
Call in the justice gang, gethim.
Green lantern.
Mr terrific teams up.
Hawk girl soars in to helpsuperman save the day.
(42:52):
Boom.
Joe (42:53):
See what I mean.
It brings back, like it bringsback when I was a kid okay.
When I was watching it the otherday, it wanted me to bring me
(43:14):
some cereal and enjoy thecommercial, because it reminds
me of back in the day, and Idon't know, maybe it's midlife
crisis, I don't know, but itsure brought me back in the 80s.
That was cool to watch, wasn'tit?
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And those toys look reallyawesome.
You should see the McFlurrintoys too Awesome.
And I went to Walmart yesterdayto go look for those toys.
Don't get me wrong.
I don't want to buy them, butit's kind of addicting.
If you guys are collectors, youknow it's kind of addicting to
buy toys.
And I don't want to buy toys.
(43:58):
And especially, I'm looking forthat the one with Crypto.
And I'm pretty sure Crypto isgoing to make a good splash in
this fucking movie.
You know he's going to be themain attraction of this movie, I
guarantee you.
You know what I'm saying.
And, um, I just can't wait Tosee it.
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I mean, I don't want to.
I don't want to judge the movieyet Until I watch it, and all
of you guys Should do the same,everyone should do the same Just
wait and watch it and thenStart doing Making your own
opinions After, after watchingthe movie.
I mean, that's all I can say.
You know, I mean that's thebest thing you could do.
(44:44):
I mean you just are.
You guys are just laughing.
Most of you are not even fans.
That's the best thing you coulddo, I mean, you guys are just
laughing.
Most of you are not even fans,most of you are.
Some are just trolling.
You know, I'm doing it too, butjust to piss them off, you know
.
But, like I said, I'm not ahuge fan of the directors.
I'm not a fan of the director,I'm just a fan of the characters
(45:05):
.
It doesn't matter who directsit.
As long as it does a goodstoryline, I'm good with it.
That's all that counts.
But the only thing that ZackSnyder messed up on is the BVS.
The BVS is good.
Okay, we have the extendedversion.
Okay, it was good, but itdidn't make any difference.
(45:29):
You know, everybody said, oh,it filled up the plot holes.
It didn't make any difference.
It didn't make any difference,it was the same shit.
Only they added when Clark wasinvestigating the Batman and all
(45:51):
the stuff.
I mean, it didn't really makeany difference on the extended
version of the BVS.
But don't get me wrong, themovie is good, not a masterpiece
.
It was good.
It was Meta core movie too.
Like I said, I'm just a fan ofthe character Superman, not the
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fans of the directors, I don'tcare, as long as it's a good
storyline, that's all thatmatters.
The only thing that bothered meabout Superman's suit on Zack
Snyder the suit had muscles.
I mean it had muscles but itwas shiny.
It looked like it was wet andI'm pretty sure all the people
are saying the same thing.
I mean it should be likeChristopher Reeve kind of suit
(46:39):
and costume, right, and they'reall talking crap about David
Kors with costume.
Oh, it looks like a cosplay.
It looks better than a cosplayand all that stuff.
Dude, get real with that, youknow.
And from the story, I mean rumorhas it, rumor has it that he's
(46:59):
going to upgrade his suit at theend of the movie.
Who knows, we don't even know.
It's just a word of mouth again.
But I guarantee you guys outthere You're trolling, or I'm
talking about Talking to theones that are Un-Superman fans
you guys are going to watch itand you will be curious and
(47:20):
you'll be the first one in thefirst screening, because you
guys are too cheap to probablygo to the theater, or maybe you
guys don't have no date to gowatch the movie, because right
after when I come out of workI'm going to watch that fucking
movie.
I'll go on matinee if I have to, or I'll watch it again and
(47:44):
again Two times, maybe fivetimes, because you know why?
I'm a huge Superman fan, damnit.
I'm a huge Superman fan and Ieven watched Superman 4, the
Quest for Peace how about that?
And Christopher Reeve disagreedwith that movie.
He didn't like it.
He said that movie was trashNot in his words, but he didn't
(48:07):
like it.
He said it was a terriblescript and he's the one that
directed it.
And he said himself it wasawful.
I mean, I'm a huge Superman fan.
I still watch Superman 4.
In Smallville, I watch it onlyto the.
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I stopped watching Smallvillewhen Lois Lane came on the scene
Too early, when he was youngClark, because that's not the
way the story goes.
Too early when he was youngClark, because that's not the
way the story goes.
I mean, when I first watchedSmallville I was all hyped up
about it, but when Lois Lanecame in the scene when he was
already Clark Kent, he was young.
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That's when they messed up.
But I just hope they make aSuperman like a mythology in the
series, like how he wentthrough, what he's been through
and all that stuff, not like,start getting all exaggerated
after that you know what I'msaying.
And then the Flash too as well.
(49:14):
When it started getting to theromantic doing these drama
scenes, that's when they startkilling it.
And um, it could have been good, the series could have been
better, way better.
But um, from there on it's itlike it completely went dead
(49:34):
Right and um, like I said again,man, I'm just going to give it
a shot.
I got the trailer of Supermanwith James Gunn's new movie and
I'm going to put it on right now.
I know I'm a little late, butit took me time to do my own
podcast by myself, with no gooch.
(49:56):
You know what I'm saying, yeah,I know, but um, I'm here and um
, I'm trying to see what I canmake up and it took me a while.
But and then I'm plus, I get outof work all exhausted, mentally
exhausted too, and now I'm wellrested you know, and it's just
(50:19):
the way it goes we work, we workand all that stuff, and
sometimes I don't have time todo it.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I gettired, mentally tired,
exhausted, and I just want torest, you know.
But here's the new trailer ofthe Superman with James Gun Gunn
.
Oh, I just, I mean, I like it,I like the suit.
(50:41):
Now it grew on me the emblem.
I bought a new shirt.
I got it at Walmart.
They're selling them at Walmartnow.
Um, I have two of them.
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna sportit when I go see the movie you
know, so I'm gonna wear it.
All I need is to buy theSuperman hat and I need to buy
me the Superman mug coffee mug,and that's what I'm going to buy
(51:05):
.
And I got the old, classicSuperman coffee mug right here.
See how it goes.
Bought this one in Las Vegas.
No, somewhere in Las Vegas.
But yeah, here's the newSuperman trailer.
Enjoy these.
Clip (51:25):
Do have some, are you
being serious right now?
They just have the one end,you'd let me interview you as
Superman.
Sure Ready, let's do it.
Cronkite Superman, Miss Lane,recently you've come under a lot
(51:48):
of fire for what some might.
Joe (51:50):
I know it's a lot of fire.
It's a lot it looks good.
Clip (51:55):
Today, the Secretary of
Defense said he was going to
look into your actions.
That's funny.
My actions.
I stopped a war, maybe Not maybe.
I did.
In effect, you illegally entereda country.
This is how you're going to be.
I'm not the one beinginterviewed.
Superman, did you consult withthe president?
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No, you seemingly acting as arepresentative of the United
States.
I wasn't representing anybodyexcept for me and doing good.
I would question myself in thesame situation and consider the
consequences.
People were going to die.
(52:38):
Superman, we're going to die.
I like that song, that partright there, hey, buddy, eyes up
here.
Your choices, your choices,your actions, that's what makes
(53:12):
you who you are, who you are.
Superman, he's not a man.
He's an it.
He's somehow become the focalpoint of the entire world's
(53:35):
conversation.
I will not accept that.
I cleaned your boots.
I'll go get them for you.
You have a dog.
Joe (54:17):
Awesome man Like it, love
it.
Awesome man like it, I love it.
I mean, everybody, go watch it.
Go see it.
July 11, 2025, everybody, thenew Superman movie by James Gunn
.
I mean, I don't know, it looksgood, you know, but I just got
(54:42):
to watch it to form an opinion.
You know what I'm saying andthat's all I can say.
I mean I like the costume.
It's really bright, the wayit's supposed to be, you know,
not too shiny like the previousSuperman, you know.
I mean mean, don't get me wrong, Henry Cavil was good, but it's
(55:02):
time to move on.
You know it's time to move on.
Everybody.
And I have a nephew.
He's a huge superman andSpider-Man fan and he's really
excited to see this movie.
You know what I'm saying.
It's not for all adults outthere.
There's a lot of children thatthey love superman.
(55:22):
I was five years old when Iwatched superman, you know, in
1978, you know.
You know, got to keep you,got to keep this in mind.
You know there's toys for um,for kids, there, but men are
buying the toys and it'ssupposed to be for children.
You know what I'm saying.
That's the funny part.
That's the funny part.
(55:43):
And most of you out there inthe social media, and Instagram
and Facebook are being likechildren you know, and not even
children act like that.
Oh, fucking James Gunn.
You know, James Gunn?
James Gunn, he's a potato.
Oh, freaking James Gunn.
You know, James Gunn, JamesGunn, he's a.
(56:04):
He's a.
Oh, Zach Snyder, this and thatyou know, blah, blah, blah, blah
, blah.
Zack Snyder, this Zack Snyder,that James Gunn, this James Gunn
, that Not even the children areacting like that.
You know what I'm saying.
That's what.
That's what makes me laugh thejokes on you.
You know, not even children actlike that.
They want to see the movie.
I want to see the movie and I'macting like a child.
(56:26):
You know, and I'm 52 years old,believe it or not.
I mean, you got to stop thenonsense.
You know what I'm saying.
You got to stop the nonsense.
You know what I'm saying.
We got to stop the nonsense andjust watch the movie, see how
it is, see how it's played.
What's the story?
We don't know the story yet.
(56:49):
Most of you out there are justjudging it.
I mean, you guys arecriticizing.
And then Supergirl is comingout next year maybe they just
finished wrapping it up justlast week.
Supergirl with Milly Alcock.
You know, I don't know Alcock,or something like that.
I don't know if I spelled it, Imean, if I'm pronouncing it
(57:12):
right and everybody's all makingfun of her, the way her
expressions look, and, you know,comparing her for some actor.
I forgot the actor's name.
I didn't mention the name,though, but wait till she gets
all dolled up as Supergirl, it'sgoing to be a big difference.
Everybody's going to say, ohfuck, she's fucking gorgeous,
you know, I mean, it's not theway the person looks, or in the
(57:38):
costume, it's the characteryou're supposed to be into.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's ridiculous, man, it'sfunny.
All these trolls justcriticizing they haven't even
seen the movie yet.
Diaper man, I mean not even adiaper, it's more trunks, shorts
(58:00):
.
You know, you know, it'sridiculous.
It's just like.
I think they don't want shorts.
I tell them in the comicsection.
I tell them, like well, maybeyou want to see his big bulge,
don't you want?
You know you want to see hisbig bulge, don't you want?
(58:21):
You know you want to see hisbulge because he's he's, he's
hiding his bulge on his shorts,you know, and they get all mad,
you know, they get all pissedoff and, um, that's like can
compare trunks and the diaper?
Oh good, real genius, how canyou, you know, put a difference
(58:49):
between the diaper and theshorts?
You know, wow, you're smart,common sense, use your common
sense.
It's just the way it is.
I mean, I want all of you outthere To check on the comment
(59:12):
section, like the people thatare laughing, and go to the
comment section when all thetrolls are laughing, all the
laughing emojis.
Take your time and go into theprofiles.
Most of them are private,probably bots.
Most of them are just Imagecomic fans.
(59:33):
Most of them are just Marvelfans or anime fans Like Dragon
Ball are just Marvel fans oranime fans like Dragon Ball Z
and all that Blah, blah, blah.
You know, just take the time todo the research on that,
because I did.
And they're not even fuckingSuperman fans Most of them, and
(59:54):
most of them are just directorsof fans of the directors.
But, oh, wow, I think I'm done.
You know I'm done.
Well, I hope I made sense ofthis, this episode of Superman.
(01:00:17):
Go see it July 11, 2025.
Well, I hope I made sense ofthis episode Superman.
Go see it July 11, 2025.
It doesn't matter who's thedirector, it's just the
character that counts, becauseI'm a huge Superman fan and I'm
there, I'm going to watch it andI'm going to support the movie.
Good or bad, I'm still going towatch it.
If you guys could deal withSuperman 4.
You guys could deal withSuperman 4, you guys could.
(01:00:41):
You guys could deal with thisnew movie that's coming out,
okay, or Superman 3, you know,if you could deal with Superman
3 and 4, you could deal withthis movie.
Well, guys, I'm done.
Go watch the movie.
July 11th it's just around thecorner.
Two more months to go, withDavid Cora, the new Superman.
(01:01:05):
Can't wait to watch it.
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