Brooklyn Born & Kingdom Raised: Mista Yu's Journey

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We're here for the terrificgentleman who's a multi-talented
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minister and mentor.
He was born in Brooklyn, newYork, with multiple degrees in
business administration andmanagement, computer programming
, certified business coachingand the culinary arts.
We'll find out how he managesto tie all that in.
He's worked for a decade in thefood service industry and
served in the state governmentas the passport advocate and
associate and also departmentsupervisor, and also currently

(02:00):
an ordained minister teachingleadership, development,
biblical principles andcommunity service.
And he also escaped deathnumerous times and he's got a
podcast.
We'll talk about that Live.
Ladies and gentlemen, plus dues, a beautiful downtown
Charleston, south Carolina,multitalented, best-selling
author, podcaster, interviewer,ordained minister and mentor.
They call me Mr U theMultitalented, mr U Mr U.

(02:23):
Good morning, good afternoon,good evening, thanks for joining
us today.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You made this guy sound incredible.
Thank you, man.
That's amazing.
Thanks for having me on, man.
It's been already interestingalready, man, but thank you for
having me here.
I'm excited about this man.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
What great to have you on board as well too.
And look what you got I to itand look what you got.
I mean I need some cash.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You're a multi-talentbest-selling author, podcaster,
interviewer, ordained ministerand also mentor.
You were born in Brooklyn, newYork, with multiple degrees in
business administration andmanagement, computer programming
, served by business coachingand culinary arts.

(02:58):
I kind of wish I did all thattoo.
You do.
Well, we wish you did.
We'll find out how we did thatin a minute.
You worked for a decade in thefood service industry.
You served as a stategovernment, as a passport
associate and also departmentsupervisor, currently an
ordained minister, teachingleadership development, biblical
principles and communityservice.
You escaped death a number oftimes and the founder of Mirror

(03:21):
Time Media and the podcast.
They Call Me Mr you and we'lltalk about that.
You also co-authored a coupleof books.
Before getting all that done,going through this maze of all
the achievements, tell us howyou first got started.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
How I first got started with Wishing Way back.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Way back.
Wishing Sherman Way back.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, being born and raised in Brooklyn, new York, to
get what you read in magazines,what you hear about in the
media, it's not, it's not, it'snot all.
It's not all accurate.
There are a lot of things theycall it the concrete jungle for
a reason, and that part is very,very accurate.

(03:57):
But there's just so much, somuch love and so much, I guess,
emphasis on being a neighborhoodand being a strong community
that you wouldn't think happensin New York, but it's really
there and it's one thing I'mmost grateful about because that
helped me to kind of be whoI've become, because the rest of

(04:19):
the city, you know, it's kindof dog-eat-dog.
You know, fend for yourself,you know, stay out of people's
business and just do your ownthing, and, man, there's so much
love and community in thatplace and that's what I was
surrounded by growing up.
So that was part of myupbringing.
My mother was from the VirginIslands.
My grandmother before her wasfrom Panama.

(04:41):
Oh, wow, okay.
So they brought a work ethicwith them that they instilled in
me.
It was, you know, there were noeasy handouts, it was hard work
and integrity and I got thatfrom them.
So I'm like this is just.
You know my upbringing wasfantastic in regards to.
You know not the thing that yougo through in a low-income area

(05:05):
.
You know with the.
You know not the thing that yougo through in a low income area
.
You know with the.
You know challenging my momwith two jobs and went to school
the entire time I lived withher, oh wow.
She was a lifetime student.
I think she still is.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
She's still a student .
You say going to school.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think she's still doing that kind of stuff, taking
classes.
I mean, I don't think she'schanged any of that stuff, so
she can't help herself.
She loves to learn and learnnew things and grow.
I can't fault her for that.
I mean, I think I got that fromher too, because everything you
named that's me exploring, thatwas me going into different
places.
You know, I want to trysomething different, learn
something new, and I gotmultiple tools in my toolbox

(05:42):
because of what I've seen her do.
So that's why that long list ofaccomplishments that you call
it.
That's where it's coming fromMe exploring and growing, not
being content to stay in thesame space and not wanting to
plateau, you know.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Right, yeah, not being on job for 40 plus years,
except I can move into thecompany.
That seems to be a new trendthese days, where you go from,
like you know, one to another,to another and you're supposed
to grow.
I mean 40 years pretty much.
For my reading today it'spretty much non-existent, out
the window.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean, I guess in a way, people think that or
people try to let us know thatthat's a bad thing.
I'm like I never.
I was always struggling withthat because I didn't think it
was a bad thing.
Okay, yeah, you don't have aperson that's going to be on
your uh, on your payroll for 50years.
Okay, Sorry for you, but I mean, but if you want to develop
people and develop leaders andhelp people kind of reach their

(06:36):
full potential, if you careabout that as a business a lot
of businesses don't.
They care about the bottom line.
If you care about growingsomebody as a leader and growing
them in purpose and fulfillment, they might not stay with you
for 50 years.
They may gain what they need toand move on to a more
challenging area.
You can't stay in a communityfor 40 years.
You'd lose your mind.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Right, exactly, I've seen that happen to people too.
So yes, I've seen that yeah,and what did your mom do at that
time as well?
What did she do?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
She was in the medical field.
She was working as a nurse andworking in the medical field
with patients and preventivemedicine and stuff.
I remember that so much.
I'm like preventive medicine,what is that?
But that was her jam and shedid that for many, many years,
along with going to school andjust learning things in the
realm of advanced mathematicsand medicals.

(07:30):
I mean, all the books that wasin the house.
I'm like what are you doing?
So I used to even try to readsome of the books.
I was so curious.
I was always an avid reader.
She put that in me as well too.
So that was her life.
My grandmother was a I don'tknow what they call it.
I mean, I don't know if ahousekeeper is the right word
for what she was doing, becauseshe was doing more than that,
but she was doing housekeeping.

(07:51):
She was taking care ofgroceries and taking care of
elderly people who were unableto take care of themselves.
My grandmother, that was herthing.
So I guess the seed of serviceand generosity.
I got that, and I'm glad,because if you don't have that
in New York City, it could berust-laden for you.

(08:12):
So I'm grateful for that seedbeing planted by my mom and my
grandmother.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
So yeah, and that is so amazing, what you guys have
done and everything like that,and, of course, you know,
getting into all the things youdid being an author, podcaster,
interviewer and ordainedminister, everything.
What was that one exact,precise moment that simply
influenced you into what you doin the rest of your career?
Like the event that happened, athought happened that led you
say this is what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I guess in the realm of podcasting is something that
you and I share a love for.
I guess I'll just go ahead andfast forward to that.
I think most people that I knowstarted their podcast probably
around the same time I did in2020.
Worst time in our world'shistory especially, oh yes, and
we were challenged.
People were losing their jobs,people were losing their lives.

(09:01):
It was a lot.
I mean a 24-hour new TV onwhere I have a new cycle of
death, misery disease.
It was a lot.
I mean the 24-hour.
You can't turn the TV onwithout having a news cycle of
death, misery disease.
It was just awful.
So for me, I needed to find anescape from that because I lost
job, I lost family members, Iwas dealing same as everybody
else.
I didn't want to watch it on a24-hour news cycle.
It was going on, it was goingon, it was reality.

(09:21):
But I couldn't sit there andwatch that and let that be my
food every single day for 24hours a day.
So I need to find somethingelse to kind of feed me,
encourage me, help me.
You know, not lose it all inthis crazy time we were all
living in and I just I wasalways I grew up with a big,
huge radio fan.
I mean I remember all the radiojocks.

(09:42):
I mean I was, I was in it.
It was a part of the backgroundof my upbringing, especially
back home in New York city.
So I was a big fan of radio.
So podcasting, which is a easyanswer I was trying to find
little radio shows and stuff.
I ran into some podcasts and Ilistened to those and I was
hearing some of the same thingthat I was dealing with people
who were you know what.
I'm creative, I got this goingon.

(10:03):
I got to live out loud and makethis thing happen and I got
encouragement from that.
I'm like you know what?
These guys are not talkingabout misery all the time.
They're not crying poor mouth.
All the time they're doingsomething with their life and
with their time to help otherpeople.
And it inspired me and Ilistened to more and more
podcasts and before you know it,harry I will just describe on

(10:23):
your show as an epiphany and Ithink pretty much that, um,
you've uh really built up apodcast and, uh, who are some of
your favorite podcasts that youenjoy listening to?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I mean, I mean, I like to tune into joe rogan from
time to time because he's gothis own number one.
I'll tell you a story behindthat, but go ahead, what, what's
your favorite podcasts?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I mean I don't know if I have a favorite.
I listen to some of him.
I listen to my Zayn.
I listen to people who you knowkind of talk about things on a
business level.
I listen to Stanley.
I listen to a lot of differentpeople.
I don't think I have a favorite, mike.
To be honest with you, I justkind of just, you know, gleaned
a little bit because I was justsearching.
At that time I was goingthrough a lot of stuff in my
head mental stuff and I'm like Igotta just find something to

(11:04):
encourage me.
I listened to a lot of sportspodcasts during that time.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yes, that's a big one too, especially at the Yankees
You're following, I noticed, gotyour beloved Brooklyn Nets and
then you've got football comingup the Giants and the Jets, and
you know there's get on acorporate level.
They pretty much set the glassceiling.
There's a lot of great sportspodcasts out there, even just
two regular football fans thatreally know what they're doing,

(11:28):
unlike the other guys at ESPN orwhatever not knocking, but it's
like you got the fans thatreally know their stuff that
worry about bottom lines.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
You sure are knocking them, but it's justified, but
yeah.
So I mean I think you're tryingto find I guess it's justified,
but yeah.
So I mean I was just trying tofind, I guess, a relief from all
that.
I was listening to sports, Imean sports, talking about
sports.
It's not talking about, youknow, masks.
It's not talking about diseases, it's talking about sports.
I'm like you know what?
I needed a break.
So I just I just delved intothat, like I was saying before,

(12:01):
and I started purchasing somepodcasting equipment.
And here we are, almost fiveyears later I guess next month
will be five years that I'vebeen doing this.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Nice.
Okay, we'll talk about ouraccomplishments hitting the
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We're here with themulti-talented best-selling
author, podcaster, interviewer,ordained minister and mentor, mr
Yu, here on the Mike WeinerShow.
And, of course, before we talkabout getting to your podcast,
you started off as abest-selling author, if I'm

(14:43):
right.
If there's something you wantto talk about, starting off
first, but you beingbest-selling author, you
co-authored Born to Risk theHeart of the Stepfather and tell
us about those first of all.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, the Heart of the Stepfather.
That was my first foray intobook publishing.
I wrote that essentially out ofa deep hurt just having a lack
of fatherhood and mentorship inmy life, coming as a young man,
especially in the mean feast ofNew York, you know.
So they came out of that.

(15:12):
And then, of course, I marrieda beautiful woman when I moved
to the South.
Married a beautiful woman.
Our anniversary is this month.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
We're going to be 29 years in.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you, sir.
29 years in and we have threebeautiful daughters, six
grandkids and one greatgrandchild.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Wow, amazing, you're blessed.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
We got a family that's a bit blended, as they
call it, and that book wastalking about a lot of that All
the challenges.
How do you have a father?
How do you become a father, Ishould say, when you haven't had
one?
So how do you teach that?
So those are the kind of thingsthat I had to try to learn
almost on the fly.
I mean, a lot of it was withGod's help, I got to be honest

(15:50):
about that, but a lot of it wasreading and examination and just
trial and error, and the bookwas a lot about that.
The Born to Rich Project iscoming up.
It's going to be launching,matter of fact, in less than 10
days from now, and I'm excitedabout it because the first book,
the first edition, was abestseller.

(16:10):
It was wildly popular and itdid very well.
So this edition is going to be,I think, the same.
The stories in this book aboutpeople who risked their lives,
who risked embarrassment andwalked in courage and resilience
it's the kind of thing that'slike you know, you want to hear
those kind of stories,especially in the time that
we're in now, with so much stuffthat's honestly turn the news

(16:33):
on again, and even in 2025,.
It's not 2020, but in 2025,.
To turn the news on, it's like,wow, what a bummer.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I know, I know and I get tired of seeing the news
scroll all the time.
It's like, you know, breakingnews, breaking news, like we're
already broken as is, and rightnow I actually deliberately took
out the breaking news feed.
It's like that's the last thingwe need to see.
We want people focus on this,not on the little scroll or a
little ticker tape, the sportsscores and all that.
We want people to focus on this, not the thing that scrolls.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, and now that that book, this is my prediction
.
I believe that book's going toencourage people to fight for
their life, to fight for purposein their life and to be the
best version of themselves thatthey can be.
That's what my hope is for thisbook.
I wouldn't have been involvedif I didn't believe that it can
accomplish that.
I'm excited about that and Ithink my author at heart,

(17:26):
because I got several books thathaven't been released yet, that
are going to be coming soon, soI'm excited about those too.
But it's kind of just where youknow, everybody that has a
story doesn't need to write abook.
I've been open about that onall of our shows I talk about
that.
It's not.
Everybody wants to talk aboutsomething.
Shouldn't start a podcasteither.
It really needs to be a.
I'll stop short of using theword calling, but it needs to be

(17:51):
very purposeful.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Oh, that's interesting.
And what is the story behindthat?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Instead of calling being very purposeful, I mean
because I kind of feel likepeople who can.
Just because you can dosomething doesn't mean you need
to do it.
I know people who start apodcast and I know them.
I know their lifestyle, I knowhow they live, I know what time
they wake up in the morning, Iknow what time they go to sleep

(18:18):
at night.
I know friends, people who Iknow you shouldn't be doing a
podcast.
Some of them don't even havethe lifestyle and the discipline
it's going to take to be apodcaster.
I mean, with all you're doing,with all the things that you are
involved with the sponsorshipsand all the things that you're
doing, those things takediscipline.
To do that stuff it takesplanning.

(18:38):
You got to be on top of things.
You can't just be, you know,flying by the seat of Penn.
You know what we're going tostart at 12 o'clock, but you
know what I got to blaze I'mgoing to start at 1245.
That's not how that works.
You got to be on time becauseyou got people who are watching
and listening, not only aroundthe country but around the world
.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Right 24-7, 365.
And that's why I say goodmorning, good afternoon, good
evening.
Breakfast in Los Angeles at 7am, you'd be having dinner in
London, or lunch in London atnoon.
You'd be having dinner in Tokyoat 6, or having trouble going
to sleep at 2 am in Tokyo.
So that's a whole thing you canbe watching anytime, just like

(19:15):
with your podcast.
You know, I watch 247-365,which is great.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, I mean, even when I'm sleeping, something's
still going on.
People are still listening,it's still numbers being
tabulated and people's interestsare still being stoked while
I'm sleeping, while we'resleeping as podcasters.
So it's just a.
It's a.
It's a big.
It's a big assignment.
I'm not saying it'sinsurmountable, I'm not saying
you can't grow it.
You can make it a full timebusiness.
I'm sure that's possible.
I'm sure you know a lot aboutthat.

(19:42):
Sure that's possible.
I'm sure you know a lot aboutthat.
But you know it takes work.
So whether you're writing abook or podcasting or public
speaking or whatever you'redoing, it takes work.
There's no easy answers forthis.
If you want to build a houseright, you got to make sure the
foundation is right.
It's going to be a mess themore you grow it.
I just look at my life that way.

(20:03):
So all the things I getinvolved with, whether you
podcast, I take it reallyseriously.
I don't mess around with folkswho are just kind of just flying
by the seat of their pants.
I don't have anything to offerthose people because you know
this is, this is not a bigenough dream for you to to
sacrifice for it.
So this is big for me, it's bigfor you, obviously, so this is
why we do what we do, right.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Exactly, you're right , and I forgot to ask this one
question here.
Give us a story behind the Mryou.
I've been curious about that.
I was going to ask you byoriginal name, but it's like Mr
you.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
what's up with that one I like that it's interesting
to me, hopefully it'sinteresting to you and your
listeners.
But I consider myself aself-professed introvert, even
more so than at that time thanever before.
I'm softening that stance alittle bit now, but then
self-professed, full-blownintrovert.

(20:58):
I didn't want my name on, Ididn't want my face on things, I
didn't want my voice on things.
So to step into podcasting, ittook me a minute to try to
rationalize the idea of takingall this introversion and put it
out here on these streets, putit out here for the globe to see
.
That was hard for me.
So I was trying to figure outwhat to name.
The first show because I,through our journey since 2020,

(21:20):
I probably had 10 shows and Iprobably was a weekly panelist
in the sports realm for seven ofthose.
So I probably had maybe seven,15 to 17 things I was doing
every week which becameaggressive and too hard to
handle.
Try to scale back from that.
But now we have four shows, butthe first show I didn't know
what to call it and I'm like asan introvert you're not going to

(21:42):
put your name on it becauseyou're an introvert.
You're not going to put yourname on it because you're an
introvert, you're not going todo that Right exactly.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Or it's just like you may be afraid that people might
come after you or they won'tconnect.
I think something like that isjust very creative.
It's like you know, havesomething that's really catchy
and everything like that.
And I think catchy hassomething creative.

(22:06):
It's like, hey, it's like youknow, listen to this, not go by.
You know your full name,whatever it is.
It's like you know, have a nameattached is really catchy and
marketable too.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah Well, I'm hoping that's what this is.
I didn't think about that inthe moment, but it came from
this being in New York.
My name, my given name, isYusef.
Now, that name wasn't superuncommon in my upbringing,
especially in New York City.
It was fairly common, as amatter of fact, because New York
is a melting pot from alldifferent cultures from all

(22:31):
around the world.
Those things aren't uncommon.
When I moved to the South, itwas very, very uncommon.
I went to the movie theater,supermarket, grocery store.
Wherever I went, peoplestruggled to say my name and I
thought wow, you get weird beingthat you had to do a tutorial
again about how to say my nameand people.
They tried so hard.

(22:51):
God bless them.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Or you just say hey, you yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well I say you know what?
Hey, you Just call me you.
And they're like, okay, and itkind of stuck in ministry and
community circles the parentsstruggle to say their name as
well and their little kidscouldn't say my name either.
Oh, wow, I said, just call meMr U.
And little kids now, even tothis day, they still call me Mr
U.
And now their parents call meMr U.

(23:18):
I don't think anybody calls meby my name.
Even my own family doesn't callme that.
I don't know who does, but Ihear Mr U everywhere in my own
family doesn't call me that.
I don't know who does, but Ihear Mr U everywhere in my own
house, in my family, my mother,my sisters, everybody called me
Mr U.
So it kind of just stuck.
So little kids get the creditfor that.
They came up with it basicallyand it became the name of the
show.
They called me Mr U.
My wife did help out with someof that too, so she gets some

(23:40):
partial, partial credit for thename of our first show, which is
now a brand that's not evenaround anymore.
I'm doing other shows sincethen.
So they call me Mr U is thebrand of our four shows that we
put out, and they call me Mr U.
Hopefully it's marketable, butit's definitely simple and easy
to remember.
So it's been working out so far.
Man, so that's how the storystarted.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
It sounds amazing, too, that you started the
podcast in 2020.
What was that one exact,precise moment that simply said
yes, I am going to do a podcast,despite you being an introvert
and never done this before?
What was that one moment thatsimply said yep, I'm going to do
it?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, when I was talking about trying to find a
release from all the things thatwe've been getting in the news
cycle and just in the in the airand just in chat rooms, it was
just super negative.
But I grew up even as asix-year-old, I was a writer.
I would write as therapy, Iwould write down things that I
see I was, I was sitting on mystoop in new york and I was in

(24:38):
brown at the brownstone and Iwould look around and I'll write
down what I see it was part ofmy therapy, part of my release.
So I was doing that all the waysince six years old, all the
way up to 2020.
But with all that was going onin our world at that time, I'm
writing this stuff down.
And guess what?
For the first time I'm notfeeling like I'm receiving
therapy.
It wasn't therapeutic anymore,it wasn't working.

(24:59):
I'm like it kind of got mescared, like wait a minute.
This was my release for allthese years through my childhood
, adolescence, teenage years,into young adulthood and now
this therapy I've been leaningon it's not working anymore.
So I got really nervous, likewhat do I do now?
So for me, I was desperate tofind a release.
I needed to find that somewhereand this was the answer.

(25:22):
Through my love for radio andthen leaning into podcasting,
that's how I figured it out.
And to get on here, even as aself-professed introvert, to get
on here and talk to the peopletalk to awesome people like
yourself, it does something forme.
Our flagship show wasone-on-one with Mr U.
I talked to folks around theworld and I learned so much

(25:46):
about myself and about the worldaround us.
It's changed my perspective.
Now I'm like I'm I'm moregrateful for what I have,
because I hear these storieslike wow, I thought my situation
was bad and it gives youperspective.
So these shows have been ablessing.
So I'm grateful to haveventured into the podcasting
world.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I mean, it's been a blessing oh, it sounds like it
as well to hear some, some ofyour notable guests that you've
had on the show.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Notable guests that I've had on the show.
Hmm, I got a guy coming on nowhe's he might be big time, but
I'll just wait.
I'll hold off on saying hisname.
But I've met people who areCEOs of companies.
I've met people who are kind ofdoing some men's power
movements, if you will.

(26:27):
A gentleman named Rory Paquette, good buddy of mine.
He's doing some fantastic work.
I probably interviewed likemaybe 50 people since we've been
involved in our community.
So I don't remember all the funbut I just remember the stories
.
You know people who are like onegood friend of mine.
She does a podcast calledHonest Christian Conversations

(26:51):
and she has.
I won't tell her story becauseI just can't.
I don't feel good about that,but she does.
She's come from such a hardplace You'd never imagine that
she'd be able to survive it.
And she's come out and she'sbetter for it.
She's a leader in her community.
She's a fantastic communicator.

(27:11):
You'd never see that coming ifyou looked at her background.
I know a guy that lives inNorway.
I think he's from Ireland orBrisbane At least he lives in
Norway now I think it is andhe's a leader in the social
media realm.
He has a massive following.
He helps people learn newlanguages and he helps people

(27:31):
navigate social media and allthe nice little things that we
deal with, that we don't likeabout analytics and stuff.
He helps people deal with thosethings and coaches them.
I mean, I've met all kind ofpeople and it's just like.
This is just amazing.
I've met all kinds of peopleand it's just like.
This is just amazing.
I've met people who areadvocating for women's rights in
the workplace.
I've met all kinds of peopleand I'm meeting so many more as

(27:51):
we move forward.
So it's been an awesome journey.
Mike, it's just too good a name, man.
I'm sorry, I can't.

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Speaker 1 (30:06):
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Speaker 4 (30:12):
Welcome back to the Multitalent Mr U here on the
Mike Wagner Show with thepodcast.
They call me Mr U, and you alsocall us the born to risk and
the heart of the stepfather.
You also became an ordainedminister as well, too, and tell
us more about your journey.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, my mother and grandmother, they were all
staunch Episcopalians.
Now, if you've ever been out,if you know anything about
Episcopalians, it's an offshootof Catholicism.
So if you've been in any ofthose kind of ministries and
churches on a Sunday morning,you know kind of the vibe, the
feel it's pretty.
You know kind of the vibe, thefeel is pretty.
Laid back May not be a goodword, but it's pretty low key,

(30:49):
it's not super upbeat.
And for me, this energetic,crazy Brooklyn kid, I needed
some pep in my worship serviceso I struggled with doing that.
I heard what was being taughtand I understood some things
about the Bible, at least on mylevel, but I struggled with the

(31:10):
whole getting immersed in thatjust because of all the other
factors.
But you know, for me I grew uparound people who were very
religious and very faithful intheir lifestyle and you know
that has some situations.
I guess we call them somenear-death situations and just
some.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Oh, I was just going to ask you about that.
I completely forgot about it.
We got so involved with thepodcast I forgot to ask you
about that.
I'm glad you mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's okay, I have some light bulb moments out here
and it played a big part in myfinding my faith and even
finding myself in a process.
I mean, because it's one thingto live faith because your
mother and father andgrandmother and grandparents did
, that's one thing.
But to find it for yourself andhave an understanding of who

(31:57):
you are in this whole space,that that was the turning point
for me.
I was a victim of an armedrobbery at one point.
I mean this meant multiplethings that happened, but that's
just one thing that happenedand I was at a place where I had
been involved with a cult ohwow, and I just got out of it,
by the grace of God.

(32:18):
I got out of it and I was thevictim of an armed robbery not
long after that, maybe less thantwo weeks from the decision
that I made to leave thisorganization, and I came out
with my life.
The guy that was robbing me.
He was afraid, probably becauseof the reputation of the people
who I used to run with, and hehad his finger on the trigger,

(32:40):
probably about maybe three orfive inches from my face, and
his hand is shaking violently.
I'm like this is really justgoing to be how my story goes.
I'm five houses from my mom'shouse, from safety, if you will.
I'm like this is how I'm goingto go out, standing here by this
tree with a guy holding arevolver to my face, with his

(33:01):
finger on the trigger and hishand shaking.
Is this the end of the story?
I'm like, even though I didn'tunderstand everything about
faith and I don't understandanything about life just as a
young person still growing up,still figuring some stuff out I
felt like I had more in me thanwhat I was seeing or what
anybody was telling me.
I felt like I had more of astory, more of a purpose in life
.
So in my mind I'm like so.
And my mom like this can't bethe way that I go.

(33:25):
I can't be a classic.
We had classic, uh, storiesthat just happened in new york.
All the time it was happeningon the news, it was nightly and
daily.
I'm like I can't.
I was so I was thinking aboutall those things, all that in
this, in the blink of an eye,why this guy got a revolver to
my face.
I'm like I can't be one ofthese stories.
Not that I'm better than them.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I can't go out like this, or especially being on 10
o'clock news as like top storyor like you know before we go to
weather.
Oh my gosh, yeah, no, I justcouldn't do this.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I was thinking about taking the gun out of his hand.
I was thinking about all typesof things, but honestly, I
didn't do any of that stuff.
I let him do what he was goingto do.
He was so afraid that he missed$600 in my left pocket.
He didn't notice it.
He was so scared.
So he so he.
He walked out with a water andtoilet paper, a broken watch,

(34:17):
and that was that was his bigtake.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
And all that just to shoot toilet paper and a watch,
oh my.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
God From all the lunch I had that day.
That was his big take.
I'm sure he was prettydisappointed once he looked at
what he had.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I was just going to say we're just glad it wasn't a
Rolex.
Maybe it was just like a $10watch you got from Walmart it
wasn't a Rolex.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'll probably assess it at probably about 15 bucks or
less.
It's not.
It wasn't a Rolex.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh my gosh.
I mean, I mean that wassomething right there too, and
you also talk about having apurpose as well too, and you
know many of us has a purpose.
There's people who are havingtrouble finding a purpose, and
you also give some advice.
It's like you know what is yourpurpose and how do you find
your purpose and what is reallyyour purpose?
I mean your personalinterpretation of purpose.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I know people want one singular thing and I'm
developing this.
I'm doing this even in coaching.
I'm learning that it's not somuch just one thing, it's a
number of things thatcumulatively amount to one thing
.
So people are trying to findpeople go to a job and say I
want to find my purpose in thisjob, I want to go work for

(35:38):
Google because that's my purposein life.
I'm like, no, you may find someaspect of purpose in the work
that you do, but your purpose isnot inside of a cubicle.
I don't believe that whatsoever.
No, no, no.
I believe there's more for youthan that, because that's a
model that your purpose will behoused in.
If that makes sense, it'd bealmost imprisoned in, so that

(36:02):
can't be it.
This has to fulfill you on dayswhen you know what you don't
feel like getting up.
It doesn't.
You know.
You don't want to deal withyour supervisor because your
supervisor's been, you know, notreally great to you.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Don't bring them down , your back pressure and all
that type.
We don't need that.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, purpose transcends that stuff.
So I don't tell folks you knowwhat their purpose is.
I I don't tell folks you knowwhat their purpose is.
I haven't done that throughanything I've done coaching-wise
, even personally.
I don't do that.
I just help folks try to findit and I honestly believe that
purpose leaves clues and there'sthings in our lives that had
been there, that had been in thebackground.
We just haven't paid attentionto it.

(36:39):
Because of all that we gotgoing on in life the
preponderance of things that wedeal with every day and we
didn't realize that you knowwhat?
There was something important,it was the important key there
and you missed it.
I believe we all deal with thatkind of stuff, but I really
believe that as long as wecontinue to keep looking, we're
going to find purpose in oureveryday lives.
The minute we stop looking, Ithink we start the slow death
process.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
And I think that's a really good point as well too,
and of course you know, youbeing a business coach and
culinary arts, I seem to likethat one as well too.
It's just like you must be areally good cook.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I take, or did you get that from your, uh, your mom
and, uh, grandma?
I mean, confess if you did sohonestly.
I know that my mom, she, shewatches a lot of our shows.
I don't know if you're gonnasee this or not, but she was.
She was a great cook.
Don't get me wrong.
Mom was a really good cook.
You know what I'm saying.
But as a last kid, like shesaid, she was going to work and
going to school.
When she was working two jobsand going to school, the
majority of the time I was inthe house so I was cooking for

(37:35):
her.
Most of the time it was notstove top, because she didn't,
we didn't have that trust.
She had to cook stuff on thestove when she wasn't at home.
So I was doing a lot of ovenstuff.
Oh yeah, I was making meals forher.
But I learned I don't know howI learned that it wasn't from, I
see, my grandmother.
She can really put in some workin the kitchen.
I saw that, but I don't think II don't know if I learned that

(37:57):
from them.
I'm not quite.
I mean, I've seen it indirectly, but but I don't know where I
learned that I think mycuriosity and my love for food
is just developed from justliving in New York City.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Oh nice, Especially with all the different cultures,
different offerings everythinglike that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Like say like with street tacos, ribs, hot dogs.
Why are you talking about allthis stuff right now, mike?
Come on, man.
You're making me hungry.
What are you?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
doing.
Come on man, you're making mehungry.
What are you doing?
Come on man.
Well, you mentioned culinaryarts.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I figure let's talk food right now, even if it's
like breakfast in Los Angeles,lunch in New York or dinner in
London or something like that.
Yeah, I mean it's kind of hardto not see that, because
literally every culture almostin the world can be represented
in that place, in some place.
I mean, I have friends thatgrew up that were from different
countries and went to theirhouses and seen what they I mean
.
So it's not really hard.
I mean, I just had a love forfood and I wanted to make it.

(38:54):
I saw people and this is how Ithis is what I believe sparked
the love for it by, in anutshell, by having these
friends from different countries, whether they were Jewish or
Russian or Scandinavian orHispanic, by being in their
houses and watching them,especially the Italian
traditions.
You know where everybody comestogether at the table and eats

(39:16):
together.
That was a tradition that Ididn't often see that in my own
household because of ourschedules and stuff, but that
meant so much to me to see thefamily dinners and stuff, and I
said, wow, food unites people.
I kind of just put two and twotogether Wow.
So food.
I mean I see people who don'tagree politically, they don't
agree culturally, but food makeseverybody come together on the

(39:41):
same page.
It's really hard to explain, butI've seen that.
So for me I'm like, okay, well,if I have the ability to make
food, I have the ability tocreate unity.
Maybe I have the ability tokind of bring people together
that ordinarily wouldn't betogether.
And I guess I took thechallenge up and I started to
learn how to cook, reading andtrying recipes, testing it out

(40:03):
with my mom, and when I left myhouse I was doing it even more,
so Decided to go to culinaryschool and make it a thing and
learn some new stuff.
Nice, I'm still cooking today,man, so I'm just having some fun
with this.
It's a journey, but I thinkwhen I have family dinners in my
household and bringing peopleover, I see the same smiles I've
seen way back in the 70s and80s.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Wow, that is amazing.
And what's your favorite foodyou like to cook?
What's your favorite dishes?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I love Italian.
I don't know, Am I adopted Mom?
I love Italian so much.
I'm wondering am I Italian?
I mean, I love it that much butI've done everything I've done.
A homemade Chinese food that'ssomething that I love to do
Because, man, that's, it's funand it's healthy, and the

(40:52):
Chinese food I grew up eatinggotta be honest, not the
healthiest stuff you can haveinside of your body.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Hey, that's the best thing.
They love to speak with theirhands and be expressive.
They may have it down here, butthey still have a love up for
here, and a love for here,that's the best part of body.
Even pizza brings everybodytogether too.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
You speak in my language, man.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
There you go.
What do you like on your pizza?
I'm going to throw this out foryou.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, it's definitely not going to be pineapple,
that's for sure.
It won't be that.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Well, some people prefer pineapple.
I'll do it if it's Hawaiian,but you know I'm more of a
sausage pepperoni throwing abacon onions green pepper and a
drizzle of barbecue sauce.
That's my ideal pizza.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I don't want to offend your listeners man, go
for it.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Go ahead.
You're sitting with us, goahead.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Pineapples blow on pizza.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
That's okay.
I mean you didn't hurt anybody.
We're not getting any nastyletters or comments or dislikes.
I'm subscribing, Don't worryabout it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I mean for me, I'm a pretty simple pizza eater.
I mean for me, I'm a prettysimple pizza eater.
I mean I want to kind of getdown to I like the sauce, so
sauce my slices up, really.
Pepperoni and cheese.
I can have some black olives onthere, I can have some
jalapenos, but honestly I don'teven need to have that Pepperoni
and cheese man, Just take careof that.

(42:14):
I can do that one every singleday.
I'm like it's.
It's a beautiful thing, man,growing up in new york and
having these pizza battles whosepieces the best?
From what I'm understanding,these battles are still raging
on today.
They're still going to themlike wow oh, you know something.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
You know you know something too.
The new yorkers love to talkabout their big pizza.
Chicago's got the deep dish anddetroit motor city got their
thick Motor City pizza.
But Chicago, you gotta come toChicago sometime and try deep
dish.
You want to be adventurous?
Come to Chicago and try deepdish.
They'll love you over there.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I've tried it in Florida, nice, I tried it in
Florida.
I thought my heart was going tostop.
How much love for you huh.
It was way too much cheese,brother.
I can't do this.
It was really hard.
I even tried Detroit herelocally recently.
I guess some people who comefrom Detroit and Detroit style

(43:10):
pleasantly surprised.
I really like Detroit style.
Chicago is last on the list.
I'm so sorry.
It's just so sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I prefer the thin style.
There are times I love deepdish and everything but Detroit
style pizza.
Double up on everything that isreally delicious.
Of course, in Los Angeles yougot all the veggies on there.
We love talking pizza.
Hey, that's a great idea foryour next podcast Talking pizza,
pizza man why not Love talkingpizza?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Hey, that's a great idea for your next podcast
Talking pizza Pizza.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Man, why not?
Okay, hey, why not?
You can have some chefs wholove to do pizza, Chefs that you
know, speak your language,cooking and everything like that
.
Well, speaking of podcasts,where can we find your podcast
and how?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
it works at?
Oh, absolutely, we're on allthe listening platforms,
wherever you get your podcastsfrom.
We also have a YouTube channel,youtubecom.
At theycallmemisteryou, you cansee all the live audio and
video episodes.
Our listening platform, ofcourse, are audio only, but
theycallmemisteryoubuzzsproutcomwill allow you to find all of
our work all the way back to2020.

(44:14):
And I'm very biased, so I saythis up front my first three
seasons of this show have beenthe very best things I've ever
done.
I've been the most transparent.
I've shared some of the mostpoignant stories.
I've shared my life stuff.
I've grown the most.
And those first three seasonsthat I'm I'm very, very partial
to those.
I invite you to check those out.

(44:35):
If you want to check out whatMr U and this podcast brand is
all about, start from thebeginning.
Don't start from last week,like some folks are doing.
Start from the beginning.
Start from September 2020 andtell me you're not moved by what
you hear.
Tell me your life isn't changedby what you hear, because my
life was definitely changed byjust sharing that with you guys.
So they call meMrUBuzzsproutcom.

(44:56):
I'm excited about what we'redoing.
I'm excited about our shows andexcited to be here with you,
brother.
Thank you for this time, man.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
And thank you as well too.
And how about your website?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
They call me MrUBuzzsproutcom.
Right now Everything else isbeing developed so can't
announce it yet, but it's coming.
My coaching website, my publicspeaking website, all the things
are coming soon.
So right now, just be callingme MrUBuzzsproutcom to get a
hold of all of our shows and beable to reach me, or use social
media and send me a privatemessage.
I will respond that way too.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Okay, sounds great.
We'll certainly do that.
We're here with the amazing MrU, and what else can we expect
in 2025 and beyond?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Hmm, the launch of my new coaching service,
high-performance coaching.
That's going to be excitingbecause I've been doing that off
and on for a while, but this isa major, major leg in the
coaching game, so I'm excitedabout that.
You're going to see some moreof my personal books coming out
that I'll be the primary authorof so excited about that.

(45:58):
And maybe some public speakingengagements on platforms Nice,
We'll see what happens with that.
But hopefully 2026 will hold.
Have room for all those thingsto happen, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
All right, we're certainly looking forward to it
as well.
Who do you consider biggestinfluence in your career?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Biggest influence in my career.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yes, I'm putting you on the spot, mr Podcaster.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
You did it, you did it.
I've never been asked thisquestion Biggest influence in my
career?
There's nobody in my workplaces, there's nobody.
That, I think, is just thebooks that I've been mentored by
.
I just is just the books thatI've been mentored by.
I just think of what bookswould be the best.
Which books?
Oh, my goodness, there's somany I've read that just talk to

(46:55):
me about leadership and teachme how to be accountable and
walk in integrity.
I think if I named one, I'd beoffending all the other ones.
I don't know if I could do it,mike, but that's been my biggest
influence, those books.
Because, honestly, I spent alot of years not having
consistent mentorship in my life, consistent accountability,
with people who were going tostick with you throughout the
entire journey and not kind ofdrop you midway throughout the
entire journey and I kind ofdrop you midway.

(47:15):
So for me, I try to be a mentorand leader for those people who
didn't have that as well.
So I try to be the change Iwanted to see.
But those books, books likeWilder the Heart by John
Eldridge, those are the kind ofthings that just shaped my life,
showed me how to be the manthat I'm supposed to be.
You know the 10 laws ofrelationship.

(47:38):
Just books like that have justtaught me how to be a man and a
leader and be an example and arole model and stuff.
So short answer, brother, books, man.
So many of them.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
And that's a really good one too.
We have, we should everybodyyou know read books and
everything like that.
And what's the best advice youcan give to anybody at this
point?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
At this point, the best advice don't stop seeking
purpose.
I know people are comfortable,especially with the changing
times, especially economically.
People try to find a safe,comfortable solution.
I've heard that most of myentire life, but I'm not the
safe, comfortable person.
So for me, I'm not the safe,comfortable person.
So for me, I might continue tokeep seeking purpose.

(48:20):
Find it in community.
When you find it in community,you find it in the connection.
You find it in people who havedone what you're trying to
accomplish.
Lean into that.
Lean into those opportunitiesto have those mentors and
coaches in your life that aregoing to be found in community a
lot of the time.
Connect with them, Sit at theirfeet and learn.
They're younger than you Stilllearn.
They're older than you Stilllearn.

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They're your same age, Stilllearn and grow and be fulfilled.
Because at the end of the day,when all the lights go out and
the work is over and the accountis closed, there's no more work
to do, you want to say you knowwhat I did, everything that I
was here to do.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
And I think that's a great point.
And lastly, what advice couldyou give to men at this point?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Men.
Well, I'm doing that on aregular basis now with our new
roundtable podcast series.
But for men, I would say one ofthe biggest things men have
issues.
We have a lot of issues.
We talk about those on the showevery single month.
So there's a lot of issues.
We talk about those on the showevery single month.
So there's a lot to go into.
But the biggest thing is theability to connect.
We talked about that on lastmonth's show and it's still a
big, pressing issue.

(49:26):
So my advice to anybody that'smanaged to listen today is your
situation is really big to you,but it's not unique.
People deal with the same thingin other places, in other parts
of the world, in worsecircumstances than the one that
you're lamenting about.
Seek out community.
Find one or two men that youcan share with and do it in a

(49:49):
safe space, even if it's Mike,even if it's myself.
Share with us, share withsomebody who can be that
shoulder for you to cry on,because you have to cry Men have
to cry sometimes and lean onthat and allow that community
and that camaraderie to help yourebuild, to help you grow, to
help you heal.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
And I think that's really important as well too,
especially getting out to aYankee game or a giant game, you
know, or just watch a Yankeegame, a giant game, in front of
a tube too.
That's community right there.
Yes, all right.
Yeah, love it.
You got that right here at theMultitalent Mr U with the Call
Me, mr U podcast, here on theMike Weiner Show, mr U.
A very big thank you for yourtime.
You've been absolutely amazing,sharing your stories, looking

(50:31):
forward to having you soon.
Keep us up to date, keep intouch, love to have you back,
welcome back anytime.
And before we go, what's yourwebsite?
How do people contact you andwhen can people purchase the
Bush?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Check out your services and more.
We'll share a little thing withthe books and the services as
they come along.
I'll keep you in the loop onthat one.
But they call me Mr you.
Dot Bush brought dot com.
We'll keep you updated on allof our podcast work and then we
start adding to it from there.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
We'll certainly do that, and a very big thank you
in time.
You've been amazing.
Looking forward to having yousoon.
Keep us up to date.
Keep in touch, live.
I'll be back.
We wish you all the best.
In Mr U.
You definitely have a greatfuture ahead of you.

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