February 5, 2025 • 73 mins
Can public figures truly sway our thoughts on pressing social issues, or are their gestures merely for show? Examining Selena Gomez's recent emotional video, we question the genuine impact of celebrity influence and its entanglement with political landscapes, highlighted by the Trump administration's unexpected engagement. We also dissect the broader ramifications of immigration policies on the ground level, considering both the empathy and critique that come with these discussions. This episode takes you on a journey through the murky waters of celebrity platforms, public expectations, and their potential to drive meaningful discourse in society.
From the glitz of celebrity sightings to the grim realities of tragedy, we cover a spectrum of topics that shape public perception. Ryan Reynolds' curiously orchestrated appearance sparks a conversation on authenticity and public discernment in 2025, while the aftermath of a devastating plane crash in DC demands sensitivity and accurate journalism. We honor the lives lost and critique the political overshadowing that often follows such events, calling for compassion over controversy. Our discussion on Spirit Airlines offers a lighter, yet insightful look at the highs and lows of budget air travel, laced with personal anecdotes and quirky experiences.
Celebrating breakthroughs and cultural triumphs, we shine a spotlight on Tawana Looney's remarkable journey with xenotransplantation and the promise it holds for future medical advances. The 67th annual Grammy Awards serve as a backdrop for our reflections on legendary tributes, historic wins, and the ongoing saga of celebrity feuds. We navigate the sartorial choices of the stars, from Taylor Swift's charming elegance to Bianca's daring statements, questioning the balance between personal agency and public spectacle. With every story, we weave a tapestry of celebrity culture, societal impact, and the ever-evolving power of public perception.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I amMeryl Clemo.
Elrod, and I am Meryl Clemo.
We have a very full packed showtoday.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's been a lot of stuff, that's happened since the
last time we were here so muchthe other day, I was like you
ever have those moments whereyou're so saturated with like
every single story and socialmedia and I was like the drones,
the planes, Selena Gomez, ohyes.
And I had to stop myself fromlike all the Blake Lively Like,
yeah, it was like compressing inmy head.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, there was some sad stuff and a lot of happy
stuff all mixed in, so a lot ofrange of emotions in this week's
episode.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Totally Absolutely.
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Actually, I'm going to let you go first.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, thank you.
Well, it's so funny because Ialways feel like we record and
then I feel like the day afterwe record, no matter what day,
it is always something like onething very funny and weird
always happens where I'm likeit's going to take a week, but
we're going to talk about it,and so for me, that thing was
Selena Gomez crying on theinternet, which to some is
already old news, but there'sstill elements of it that I want
(01:23):
to talk about.
Where, for anyone on earth thatmight not have seen it or heard
about it, third party SelenaGomez took to Instagram or
TikTok, I think, and thenrecorded herself crying,
basically, which like seemedlike a real moment.
You know, I very much believethat in that moment she had real
feelings and like I totally,absolutely believe that she felt
sad and bad and helpless andhopeless, like how a lot of us
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often feel.
But you know, she took someheat because she was saying
things like I wish I could dosomething to help, but I can't
really help and, you know,saying some things like my
people, which some made their,you know, made that statement
kind of fit their agenda of whatshe was actually saying.
So I mean, my thing, too, isSelena definitely tends to get
(02:08):
herself in the middle of somethings where, like she, I like
her, but she definitely does tome.
I find that she does makeherself like a victim a lot of
times or like a why me?
But I honestly don't think shedoes it purposefully.
I think she's just been like achild star for so many years
that she may be like a littlebit out of touch, but I really
do think she is someone that herheart is in the right place,
like I.
I don't find her extremely like, rude or you know.
(02:29):
I think she actually probablyis a good person, just a little
like out there.
But then what I wanted to talkabout is now the Trump
administration had taken thevideo and like posted it on
their, on the white houseaccounts, but then also edited
some other things of like peopleon the other, the border crying
and you know, kind of sayinglike why she shouldn't be crying
.
(02:49):
So I know that's a lot.
What do you think about allthis?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, I mean, I think that I applaud her for taking a
stance on this platform,because she is a big, well-known
star.
There's a lot of people thatlisten to her, that love her,
that follow her and stuff, andhere's the reality of it.
People may be making memesabout her, laughing and joking
all this, but there are negativerepercussions that this country
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is going to feel too by goingafter all these immigrants.
Because, one, there's a lot ofbusinesses I know in my area, um
, that are hispanically run anda lot of them have workers that
aren't showing up for work.
There's a lot of agriculture,like farms and stuff like that,
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that have workers that are tooscared to come to work, and a
lot of those things mostamericans won't do and the
immigrants will, so theyactually serve a purpose.
So it's really too early toknow what the effect is, but I
think that when someone wants touse their platform for comments
, stuff like that, but whenyou're a big of a star, as she
(03:58):
is you know what.
By this point in her career sheprobably lets that stuff roll
off her back.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah Well, I think part of it was like the
messaging, the way that it wasdone, because then she took it
down and then she posted on herInsta story saying like I guess
we can't show empathy anymore.
But I feel like I agree withsome of the people that were
angry about it saying you know,I think she does give a lot of
money to like wildfires and Ifeel like she is someone like
taylor swift that donates a lotof her money.
(04:31):
I think the whole thing wouldhave had more impact if she was
like hey, I'm donating fivethousand dollars to this, like
women's refugee group, or I'mdonating this or that, or you
know.
I think it was kind of like ina moment where she's on there
crying, someone had a goodstatement, where they're like in
the middle of all this, likeyou want us to feel bad for you,
you know, like we're notfeeling.
So I think she could havealmost shown like hey, here's
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some organizations I'm donatingto and I'm really upset about
this, instead of just kind ofcrying and saying like I'm sorry
, I can't help you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But I get it.
Yeah, I mean, I get.
I mean, some people they handlethings differently.
Um what I have done, all thatcrying and everything in front
of the camera?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
probably not no, and you feel like, well, we all know
, mine would glitch up annoyingme.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'd be like oh wait, I'm stuck crying but you know, I
mean, like I said, everybody,everybody expresses herself in
their own way yeah especiallythe white house reposting it
that's true and you know thecrazy thing about it is in a
sick way, you know, by the whitehouse people.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh, reposting it actually kind of helps her out
and they don't realize that,because then people like come to
her rescue that were normallyyeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
They see her having empathy and oh yeah, and then
you, you're gonna have peoplethat go.
Well, who is this person?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
and she may pick up some listeners and fans along
the way, because of this tooyeah, definitely, and I I think
it's a slippery slope because Ifeel like a lot of times with
celebrities whenever they talk,we all find it annoying and like
it's like get out of here.
But then if they don't sayanything, people are like why
aren't you speaking up?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
so I could see how it would be confusing yeah, um,
like I said, you know, I tip myhat off to her.
You know, again, I probablywouldn't have did the crying
thing, but outside of that,you're so nice.
I applaud her, you know oh mygod, so you're.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
so we have a good balance, because I'm just like
she's a perpetual victim.
It's good, though, because Ifeel like a lot of times we'll
represent, like what people feelon the internet.
You know, not everyone sees thesame thing, like all the same
ways, but I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh yeah, you got to have a healthy conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Absolutely Healthy thirsty conversations.
I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
There you go.
Talk about thirsty.
I don't know if you heard thisor not, but athletes, primarily
female athletes around thecountry have been stalked, where
there are people that knowtheir flight itinerary, meet
them at the airport, kind ofbombard them for signatures and
(07:02):
stuff.
A lot of these signatures, likefor some of these athletes, are
worth a lot of money and youknow it's kind of creepy when
you think about it, especiallywhen it's the same group of
people, at different points thatyou go to, that are there,
because that's kind of likeborderline stalking.
Some people will call itstalking.
It definitely is, I mean, doyou think that's kind of
(07:23):
concerning, though, if you werean athlete, and everywhere you
go you kind of see the samegroup of people there?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah.
Do you think are these peoplethat are there to then get their
autograph to resell it, or doyou think they're, like crazy
fans for the person itself, or amixture of both?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think honestly, because some people think it's
organized Okay, because thishappens to way too many athletes
I think it's for reselling theautographs and making money
personally.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Wow, then that's like that's not fair.
I feel like that should be.
You shouldn't hound someone Ifanything, like after a game, or
there should be some time wherethey're actually on the clock
working, because I feel likeright now they're not working're
traveling, you know I don'tknow, and I would I wonder if
most of them travel with uh,either like private security or
team security.
(08:13):
I would have to think that thatwould be.
Hopefully they have like peoplewith them, um, but no, I think
that's a weird place and likethe airport should kind of be a
sanctuary area where peopleshouldn't get hounded.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh yeah, and you know the thing is, some people go
well, you know why?
Can't they just hire security?
Well, there's only a smallpercentage that are like really
wealthy.
Yeah, if they have security,they pay for their own security.
No one else pays for that.
That's not free.
So I agree with you, I thinkit's kind of sad that the
(08:48):
airports aren't doing a littlebit more, because no one
deserves to be harassed at aairport.
I would think that that wouldbe some kind of major risk to
the airport that you know yougot these people constantly
following people around fromairport to airport.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, I know, and so and those people I guess,
are parking at the airport andobviously they're not going in
where you get the ticket, butthey're going in where they get
out.
Like that is.
That is annoying.
Also, like, do men's teams getsecurity?
Cause I feel like I couldpicture with, like a basketball
team, them having some type oflike already, not even private,
but like it comes with the team.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, I'm quite sure that if the athletes are with
their team, there's probablysecurity, um, but if they're by
themselves, I would I mean, Idon't know, but I would think
that the security would be onthem yeah, that's really scary
and I bet I would bet that someof the people probably have
followed them home in a car orlike wherever they're going, you
know, getting their rental carlike that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't, I would not put it above people doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Oh yeah, I mean, if you think about even the NBA,
where top salary in the WNBA, Iwant to say it was around
$75,000 a year.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh my gosh Really.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Men in the NBA.
Their top salary is, you knowit could be anywhere from $10
$20 million a year yeah.
Or more depending on who you are.
So you know, when you're makingthat kind of money, yeah, you
can definitely have a full-timesecurity, which you can.
Yeah, and you know the thing is, women's sports are actually
(10:20):
very competitive.
They actually have a lot ofpeople that are interested in
watching them and following them.
You know, I kind of hope thatthe pay kind of helps balance
out a little bit, because theseare the little things that
people overlook, why they needmore pay and why a lot of those
athletes go overseas becausethey don't make the money here
in the States.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I feel like if I was like afamous athlete, I would almost
schedule something once a monthwhere I'm like OK, real, actual
fans can come and I'll signanything you want, but like I'll
just have a policy where I willnever sign anything getting off
a plane or like never signanything from you know,
paparazzi like on the side ofthe hotel or whatever.
But I would be like, if youwant to, I'll sign anything like
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in this day in New York.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But you know what?
That's actually good becauseone by having fans there true
fans that to me makes it alittle bit safer.
So if someone does come inthere with ill intentions,
there's people that's going tostop them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, no, that is scary, though, knowing that.
I remember hearing.
Remember didn't someone'sfootball player?
His house just got broken into.
Was it like Joe Burrows orsomething, or?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Several.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Really, because I've heard that's a thing too, where
people will track theirschedules and then know that
they're out of the, they're nothome and that they have like
these big beautiful houses andthat they target them too.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh yeah, I mean there's been multiple athletes
and the crazy thing, they do itwhile they're playing, so it's
like they know their fullschedule, they know their house
is empty, so you can tellthey're being cased and this is
like all throughout the UnitedStates from various teams, so
you can kind of tell it'sorganized, it's not.
It's not just a bunch of guysis getting together doing this,
it's actually an organized groupdoing it.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, and also I know how I am at airports and the
last thing I want to do, I justwant to go buy, like a Hershey's
chocolate bar.
I don't want to sign stuff oranything, so I feel like I would
be like so annoyed and you knowyou get off with like the head
pillow and you're tired andyou're always like so bloated
after a flight.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm like I don't want you.
I hear you.
It's beginning to be a crazyworld, merle.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I know.
Okay, my next thing is aperfect transition, because I
think this is so silly.
So, speaking of someone thatmaybe staged a meet and greet,
and you know, I think I'm like Itold you from the beginning,
I'm a conspiracy theorist and Ithink I found a conspiracy I
like.
So I don't know if you've seenthe videos, but Ryan Reynolds,
who has been way in the newslately, of course, because of
the Baldoni case, has you know?
Now people are saying last weekwe talked about how he's him
(12:53):
and Blake were posting likeInstagram stories that to make
it extra look like hey, here'sour friends.
And like, hey, we're good people.
And recently it went viral onTikTok video people.
And recently it went viral onTikTok video of him with a meet
and greet but, like audiencemembers quickly rushed to the
idea that it's fake becauseeveryone has like the same
Deadpool thing and people arelike everyone is just saying
(13:16):
Ryan, ryan, ryan, like no one'ssaying anything different, and
everyone is like I smell a ratand so I am part of that.
Of course, but the incident tookplace outside new york city,
where you know it's not unlikefor ryan to obviously get swarms
of people anyway if they knowhe's there, but the fact that,
like everyone had a blue markerand like dead pit pool
(13:37):
paraphernalia just right thereready to go and it just seems so
fake and like everyone that Iknow, I don't know, I just got
caught up in the wave where I'mlike, oh he's just, he's framing
this to like look even morefamous.
I feel like you believe in itbecause you're sweet and
innocent you know what I thinkwas real wink, wink, no.
I'm not worried about that, likethat's.
(13:58):
I'm sorry, but, and I love thiskind of stuff because this is
why so much, I love TikTok andlike any anything that gives the
voice to the people, becausepeople aren't falling for the
same bull.
You know what you know.
I just think, like I thinknowadays in 2025, we're able to
see through whether it's fake ornot, like we're able to discern
things a little bit more andkind of see when things are
(14:21):
rigged and fake.
So I love it.
I mean, if it wasn't laid on alittle bit thick, maybe they
could have put it on yeah, andone of the things is people said
celebrities rarely sign thingswith blue pens because I guess
that's the marker that ends uplike transferring and people
resell it.
So someone is like, yeah, ryanwould like absolutely not sign
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something with a blue pen.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I never did that Okay .
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yep, Yep, Just I mean , who knows how real that is.
But just one piece of thingthat I saw I just love like, if
that's the case, I love thethought of these like
celebrities and PR peopleputting this out, thinking they
could hoodwink us.
And then I love the idea of,like the wave of people just
coming back and like making funof them and making it 10 times
worse.
And like to me, if I was Blakeand Ryan, like you, you, you
(15:10):
have to choose a different paththan what you're doing, Cause
all of this is just making itlook even more insincere and
like even more crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I think that when you're in the middle of you
know any kind of legalproceeding, you gotta be careful
what you do.
You gotta be careful what yousay, because sometimes what you
do or say can backfire on you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, it is.
And in this day and age,everyone's like extra cynical
right now, you know, I thinkalso in times of economic
hardship and like inflation andstuff, we tend to get extra like
nibbly on each other and things, and I think people are like
looking for what's fake and Ithink right now is the time to
just like be real with people.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean.
The thing is is that you know,even though we laugh, we joke
about it and stuff like that,but when you're in a court
proceeding everything you sayand do, both potential jurors
and the courts are actuallylooking at it.
You have to be careful how youdo stuff, because the last thing
you want to do is give theopposition ammunition they need
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to beat your case yes, yes, andI think no one is impressed
nowadays like that's not goingto change anyone's opinion.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
If I'm team justin baldoni and I see ryan doing
like a meet and greet, I'm notgoing to be like whoa, actually
he's famous, never mind like andlike it.
Just I can't see how like anaction like that would actually
help sway anyone's opinion.
Or maybe it's just to make themfeel better, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's true, that's true, but you got to give them
an A for effort, though, right.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't know this one .
I give Selena maybe a B-minusand I give Ryan a C+, but I am
obsessed now, whether it's theyounger kids, kids, or I think
it might be Gen Z or something,but I love how people are seeing
things and they're like.
This doesn't feel right to me.
Let's at least like talk aboutit.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I love that so much.
That's true.
That's true.
That tells you people arepaying attention, though, right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Exactly Well, unfortunately, I do want to
acknowledge something veryhorrific that has happened.
This is talking about the DCplane crash.
Oh, my God, With the airlinercrash into a military helicopter
.
You know for me, Merle, theteam here at Thirsty Topics,
(17:26):
Thirsty Conversation, the ElroyTV network, we definitely want
to send out our thoughts andprayers to those families who
have lost their loved ones.
You are definitely in ourthoughts and our prayers today.
Just wow, I mean just wow.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Let me ask you a question what?
What was your reaction when yousaw the story break?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
oh, my god, like horrific.
You know, knowing that I don'tknow if we'll ever hear the
actual, like real truth of whatreally happened and what.
You know, whether it's anaccident or whatever happened,
on what account.
Um, but my first thought wasjust the human part really,
which is just putting myself inthese people's situations of
like that feeling when you're soclose to landing on a plane and
(18:12):
you're already kind of thinkingahead of what you're going to
be doing and, like you know, I'mone of those people which I'm
sure many people are where it'slike you start kind of texting
people like landed, even thoughyou haven't quite landed yet,
and so just thinking of allthose people that were in that
doing that, and the, the crew,and the fact that the plane was
going like just straight along,thinking that they were, you
know, doing their thing, and allof a sudden this horrific thing
(18:34):
happened.
Um, not so much like it doesn'tmake me beyond scared of flying
in general, because I think,sadly, these things just do
happen every now and then, butit's like, I don't know, it's
just so unexpected and soterrible that it's obviously
like extremely tragic and Idon't know if you saw too, but
they released a photo of liketwo of the people and sitting
(18:55):
there and then you could seelike all the other just kind of
normal, everyday looking peoplethat just look like they'd be on
a flight and they're allsitting behind and it's so eerie
knowing what's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I mean, the scary thing about it was it was
so instant and so quick and youknow there's questions about you
know, was it pilot error?
You know?
Did the pilot in the militaryhelicopter did they see?
You know the?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
plane.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Were they looking at the wrong plane?
I just want to say for peoplethey should really stop doing
that until it's officially whathappens.
Obviously the family is payingattention too.
Some of the things coming outas well.
This could have been prevented.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We don't know.
We don't know who the airtraffic controllers were.
We don't know who the we don'tknow.
Yet it's weird nowadays, too,that we have to put a political
spin on everything right away.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, because the thing about it is that you have
to understand this is so hurtfulto the families and sometimes
the families kind of get lost inthe shuffle.
Yeah, these 67 people havefamilies that are mourning their
deaths.
They're still hurting right now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
And weren't they like figureskaters?
Or some of their figure skaterswere on there too, just coming
from like a practice or achampionship, or they were
coming from.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, these were a lot of kids.
Yeah, you know, one thing thatno parent wants to do is bury
their child.
I mean, that's one, to me, oneof the most horrific things you
could have to do as a parent.
And you know, lay off all thewell this could happen.
Oh, it was DEI, it was this andthat.
Lay off all that nonsense.
(20:36):
Right, more we don't know.
Of course it's not DEI.
So stop with that nonsense aswell, too, and just just let
them have a time to mourn.
Yes, once it comes out, theywill tell us what happened.
Ok, right now, it's allspeculation, that's all it all
it is exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I feel like the only conversation besides the human
like tragedy, one that maybecould peak out in the next
couple of days, would be like atthe actual airport, at the dc
airport, because I've heard frompeople too that that's like a
congested airport and that seemsto be happening a lot, and I'm
like that would be the onlything right away where I'm like,
okay, maybe you need to stop,like, the training right there
(21:15):
at night immediately or stopwhatever's happening.
But other than that, you'reright, I don't think there
should be any speculation,rather than just like is this
airport too crowded or congestedsometimes?
And if so, let's stop thattoday.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And the thing is, is that, unfortunately, we you know
, fortunately we will learn fromthis?
Yeah, once it's said, you know,I guess, because the military's
involved and I could be wrong,I don't know if they'll be 100
transparent, I hope they know, Idon't think they would I know,
I know if it was two justregular aircrafts, I think it's
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different.
But once the military's involved, two just regular aircrafts, I
think it's different.
But once the military'sinvolved, they may or may not be
100.
They have to say something.
They just can't ignore it.
But I guess the question is howtransparent do you think they
will be?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't at all.
Either the military will try tocover something up or I don't
know, and especially if itdoesn't play into the dei
initiative, it's just, and alsolike I don't know if you heard
when, and this is like anyone ofany political partisan belief
could like think this isridiculous.
But when trump gave his speechabout it, like his big long
(22:28):
thing, he was saying what the,the faa was, was looking for,
and he made it sound likethey're actively recruiting like
paralyzed people with no limbsand like that's what they're
looking for.
And I'm like he's making itsound like they're just looking
for people that are not good attheir jobs, when they're just
trying to have like a clausesaying basically we'll interview
anyone and we're not like onlygoing to hire dwarfs.
(22:51):
Or you know he was saying thesethings, that I'm like he was
saying these things and I'm likeI feel like I'm watching a
crazy movie.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I give you credit for watching way more
than I did, because when hefirst came on he had the silence
and honor for the victims.
I thought that was theappropriate thing.
I applaud him for that.
But then when he started totell the DEI nonsense, I turned
away.
There was no way I would watchthat.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I know it was, and he basically read off what the FAA
was looking, what was activelyrecruiting, but he made it sound
as though, like they're onlygoing to be hiring air traffic
controllers that have, that aremissing limbs or that are
paralyzed.
My boyfriend and I werewatching it and just cracking up
because of, like I know whathe's trying to do, but it's not
no one, I think, is going tobelieve that like what, what
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they're just trying to find,like air traffic controllers
only that are not good at theirjob.
That's not what was happening.
So and we don't even know ifthat was like, if that was the
case.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Besides being crazy, you know that wasn't the time to
do that.
That was not the time to dothat.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, it's just time to comfort the loved ones.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It was so ridiculous and so disrespectful.
Yeah, and I'm no dummy, I knowthat politics is very thick in
this country yeah, even on bothsides of the aisle people were
like this is ridiculous, this isjust despicable.
It was disgusting and, like Isaid, even though we don't talk
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about a lot of it on the show, Ido watch politics.
I had to turn away from thatthat was really yeah, really
ridiculous.
You know, and the thing is,here's the crazy thing about it,
now that they released all thepictures and stuff yeah, the
pilots were white men.
Yeah, women, I mean, theyweren't, you know,
african-americans, they weren'tLatinos.
(24:34):
So, and even if they were, sowhat?
You know, so what?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But just to show you how stupid and ridiculous that
conversation was, I know, againtrying to make it sound like
everything's falling apartbecause of that.
Yeah, it's just, it'sridiculous and I think it should
have only been talked aboutthat like a tragedy just
happened.
We're going to stop all thetraining, like for the next week
in Washington, and figure outwhat's happening, or we're going
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to move the training, you know,like anything that was actually
happening on plane crashes, oris the aviation industry like a
little less safe than it alwaysis?
You know, I don't really know,but I know after that there's
been a whole rash of not aslarge crashes, but there was
that one in Philadelphia.
(25:22):
There was like Santa Barbara,there was two here in California
, but it's like a lot of timesthese things happen.
We just now they'resensationalized because you know
, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I mean the one in Philadelphia, the one, uh, that
actually kind of caughteverybody's um attention,
because that was literally whata day or two after, yeah.
So you know, that was kind oflike wow, you know, because
there were people on the ground,they got I think one person on
the ground that got killed aswell, everybody on the
helicopter was killed.
And then you know, every timeyou turn around you know planes
are bumping to each other.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I know Everyone's deplaning yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's like I still believe in flying, but I don't
lie to you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It makes you a little nervous though, oh my gosh, I
flew back and forth to Seattle,which luckily is only like a
two-hour flight, but I left thenext day after the DC thing.
So I flew next morning at 6amand like the vibe was so somber,
it was just we were walking onthe plane and, like I'll tell
you, I like I feel like pilotsare such heroes to me and I feel
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like they did such a good job.
They told like a little dadjoke about dad's liking plain
bagels and so it.
It was like you could tellthese are humans too and they're
probably shaken up and they'reupset and everything, but they
did everything in their power tomake us feel safe.
And then the Philly thinghappened, and then I had to have
a plane ride home like the nextday, and it was just I was
really trying to just focus onlike the beauty and the fact
(26:50):
that these things are still veryrare and the fact that, like I
don't want to live in fear whichI think a lot of us but being
on a plane is scary for likemyself and a lot of people.
I'm not going to lie.
So when we hear these things,it's just natural to feel even
more like apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's true, that's true.
I literally just saw thisreport on the news and I don't
remember where it was at, but,um, there was a plane that was
flying I don't want to say thewrong airline, but people were
looking out the window and lookslike one of the engines had a
little fire on there.
Now, being that, you know, thiscrash just happened.
(27:28):
Yeah, you can just imaginewhat's going through their minds
as they watch fire come from awing outside oh my gosh, I would
.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
My anxiety would be, I would be like on the on the
plane jumping off and it's like,wow, not a good timing no, and
I think like all because I'm Iused to be a very, very, very
anxious flyer, I really feellike I've conquered a lot of my
anxiety.
I would really cry on a plane.
I would have to go to like thein the airports.
I would go to like the prayerroom and like bawl my eyes out,
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and it used to be a very likephysically painful experience.
But then I just but people wouldalways say to me like oh, you
have a work more of a chance ofgetting into a car accident, or
like being killed by a shark.
I'm like, but those thingsdon't feel scary.
Like you know, I'm not scaredthe whole time in my car, I'm
scared the whole time in theplane and it's like I feel like
it's such a natural feeling tobe driving for most of us, but
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it's like not natural to go upin the sky and like be in a tube
and give up all your control tosomeone else, like navigating.
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
I think it's the control,because in a car you have full
control.
Yes, even though you may notcontrol what's going on outside
of your vehicle, you do controlyour vehicle.
Yeah, in that plane you prettymuch have to trust those two
people in the cockpit.
And oh, there was a story thisis kind of getting a little bit
(28:48):
off base, but there was a storyof this pilot that was arrested
because he showed up to workdrunk.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just saw that and it's like dude, I feel like he
should get double arrestedduring this month.
It's like if you're doing thatnow, like with all of us scared,
you should get like, whateverthe next penalty would be.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm like, dude, you picked now this time to do this,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm like just stay home and drink
whatever you need to, but yeah,yeah, that's, it's terrifying
and but I mean, like I thinkthis was uh, the american crash
was like the biggest commercialone since it was 2009 or 2006 or
it's been a.
It's been a long time, rightlike yeah, that's true it has
been.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
But, like I said, we we send our, our prayers and and
um and thoughts out to thosefamilies and hopefully we get to
the bottom what happens andprevent it from happening again
yeah, yep, and that's the thingthat too, sometimes with crashes
in the past, that has beenhelpful, where it's like every
tragic event then hopefullyleads us forward with like some
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safety mechanism.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
However, I still feel like I'm not scared of flying,
but but boeings I'm getting lessand less because, like when I
was looking up the records ofthe stuff and I'm just like, oh
my God, it seems like notsomething like what happened on
this situation, cause that waslike totally unpredictable and
unplannable, but like Boeing's,every single thing it's like, oh
, the wheel just like popped offor the door blew open, so crazy
(30:10):
.
Okay, well, this is.
I did not plan this to be thenext thing, but now we're going
to go into like a silly airlinething.
So we're still thinking of ourvery heavy thoughts about the
tragedy, but now justlighthearted news for a palate
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cleanser which you could justimagine everyone laughing saying
like spirit airlines, this cardkind of already like the
walmart of the the airlines, youknow.
So, if you, I have been onspirit airlines a few times and
like the dress, no one iswalking a catwalk there.
It's very much like giving dmvoutfit vibes, um, but obviously
(30:51):
people have been abusing maybesome of the relaxed nature.
So now people are saying thatthe new dress code, you're not
wearing see-through clothing,which the fact that they even
have to say that is ridiculous.
You can't.
You have to basically coveryour buttocks, your breasts and
your private parts.
So the fact that people werebearing everything on spare
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airlines is already ridiculous.
After this, like very sadsituation, I decided I don't
think I'm going to fly Spiritanymore, not because they're
unsafe, but because if I was oneof the people to go through a
sad thing, I just couldn't haveall my friends and family know
that I was flying Spirit.
My legacy that would be just so.
(31:34):
I don't know, it's just not theway I want to Go out.
But have you ever flown aSpirit flight?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
One time and never again.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, and it's like you can feel the plane going.
They do have great deals, but Ithink it's good if you don't
need to pack Anything else andif you could just like.
Yeah, if you're just ready togo to Las Vegas With like a
backpack, it's the Thing for you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean the two things about Spirit is one they nickel
and dime you for everything.
I'm surprised they don't chargeyou for breathing.
I mean they literally nickeland dime you for everything.
And then when I was on theSpirit maybe because I'm a
taller guy or whatever, but myknees and the back of the chair
was like this oh, yeah, yeah.
And this is with his seat,straight up.
(32:19):
It wasn't even leaning back yeahso I'm like no, I'm never doing
this again.
And then, plus, like you said,if you take more, more than one
bag, you're charged for that bag.
You know you're.
They literally charge for everylittle thing.
That's like, yes, with all thelittle fees and stuff, you might
as well get on another airlineyou, I had to throw one of my, I
(32:39):
think, when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I flew it.
I like ran out of money on myvacation and then I had to book
one from New York to Miami forlike $18.
And then I just I had no moneyand they were like, well, you
could either pay like $89 or youcould just get rid of your bag
with a few t-shirts, and so Ilike lost a few items of
clothing.
Now, what is your typical uh,like airport wear?
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Are you someone that wearssweatpants, or do you wear?
Do you try to dress up, or likesomewhere in the middle?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know what I wear?
Jeans, jeans, maybe a shirt ort-shirt, something like that
because I want to be comfortable.
And then Because I want to becomfortable, and then, of course
, I want to be able to get inand out of my pockets quickly
Because, you know, when you'regoing through security you got
to take everything out and thenput everything back.
So I just try and be as quickas possible, you know, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
How about you?
Honestly, it's so funny.
I feel like one of the manynon-anxiety tips that for me
that it helped me to like Idon't dress in like a business
woman, but I definitely dress upa little bit because I think
sometimes if I was going in likesweatpants or just kind of
clothing where I didn't feelcomfortable or like confident in
, it was almost making me feellike I had the flu or you know,
(33:47):
like it was making me almostfeel too sleepy and too whatever
.
But I felt like something thathelps my anxiety is I get
dressed up like nicely and do myhair just so I feel like I'm
almost like I'm busy on my day.
I'm like, oh, a flight is justlike a normal thing on my day.
I'm not like dressing like I'mhome watching the Price is Right
or anything.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh no, I could definitely understand that.
I mean, I can say I tip my headoff to people to fly spirit.
I just won't do it again.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
These dress codes are so funny that they have to say
like please don't wearsee-through clothes on your $20
flight to Idaho.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Don't you think it's kind of sad that they even have
to say that though?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, but it definitely I mean the people
that I saw that were.
I mean, I was amongst them butlike the New York to Miami crew,
people were wearing theweirdest.
Everyone had just lost theirminds.
It was not a great bunch of.
I was part of it.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It sounded like a very memorable flight.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It was.
I didn't know too.
It was my first time flying inan Airbus and I didn't know the
hydraulics.
It makes different sounds thannormal planes that I was used to
, all these kind of things.
I was like, oh my God, we'regoing down.
They're like no, no, no, thisis just like what Spirit sounds
like Alrighty, now Sounds likepoverty.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So yes, Well, hey, like I said, there's a customer
that would love.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Spirit and very high safety rating, so not a lot of
bad marks on their safety record.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I mean, I will give them this.
If you don't have very muchmoney and you need to fly, it is
an option.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Definitely, but yeah, now fly.
Have you booked any flightslike after this whole thing has
happened or not?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
not yet, but I will have to soon, so luckily it's
not right away.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So I think, I think you'll, I know you'll be fine,
yeah just let things kind ofsimmer down a little bit.
I know that's how I feel, justlike give it a few weeks or
something.
But yeah, definitely tragic andsad.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, talk about sad and safety.
Yeah, this goes back to what wetalked about a few times about
people with animals.
In China, a mermaid swimmerthis is a person that dresses up
like a mermaid, you know, jumpsinto the little man-made pond
or tank or whatever that theyhave.
They're swinging with differenttypes of fish, sometimes sharks
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or whatever.
This swimmer, she was attackedby a large fish in there that
basically put its whole head,its whole mouth, on top of her
head.
Luckily she wasn't really hurtor anything, but it kind of was
like yeah, see, that's what youget.
I mean, I don't know.
I just still have a certainfeeling about Miss Wild Animals.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Personally, I don't know what about you?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You think you could do that?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Meryl is like hey, Meryl, we're going to hire you.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You got to swim with this fish with this mermaid suit
on.
It's a big, giant fish thatlooks like a shark, but he's.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, don't worry about it that's what I was gonna
say is I want people to knowthat haven't seen the video.
When we say fish, we don't meanlike a little trout or a
flounder or something.
We.
When I saw the video I trulythought it was a shark, like it
really looks it does look like ashark, doesn't it?
yeah, and and they can hurt.
I I don't know if it had anylike teeth, like things or you
know sharp edges, but I saw thatvideo and that really looked
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like it hurt and it could havelike knocked her out or it
really could have almost likesnapped her neck or you know the
way that or like I don't know,fish get the wrong.
Just if he did that, hewhatever the shark's gender was,
if it did that and then likeslapped her with its tail, like
people really could get knockedout and then if there's no one
there to help you, like it couldbecome a very serious thing.
So no, I'm very, very like Ilove animals so much but I'm at
(37:43):
a distance with them, likehorses.
I just I love from afar and I'mvery, very cautious, even like
dogs lately I won't really go upunless I totally know that the
dog is really friendly or if itcomes up to me first.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Like I said, I still have a phobia.
I'll watch you.
Would I get in there with them?
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I think what's going to happen is there's going to
soon be real people swimmingwith AI fish.
Next month they're going toswap out the fish for some AI.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, the sad part is , somebody's probably already
working on that too.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah.
But I saw that and I was like,oh my gosh.
I hope that person is A okayand B is able to.
If she loves doing her job, Ihope she's not too afraid to go
back and do it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, she's probably had close encounters
before and probably did get backin there and, like I said,
there's a lot of enthusiaststhat love going out, messing
with wild animals and stuff andbeing friends with them and all
this hugging up.
It's almost like what you seeonline, where you see these
people hugging these big tigersand oh yeah, lions, and like,
(39:00):
yeah, okay, make sure you haveyour affairs in order.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Just in case you know exactly my uh, we were just
with family all together, and myboyfriend's brother was the
only one of like nine of us andhis dream is to go swimming with
sharks.
And it's so funny because, likeno one else in the family wants
to cage dive or, like you know,you go on these four-day
expeditions and in the middle ofthe third day that you go down
to the ocean and it's like nope,sorry, like I have no, I have
(39:24):
no like desire whatsoever tolike be on the ocean for that
long or go in a tank with sharkseating me so you wouldn't, you
wouldn't get in the tank withthem.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
No, I'll, I'll be at a Marriott Eating chicken wings
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I think I'm missing a lot of the adrenaline stuff
that people have, because Idon't need to be dunked in water
With a shark on me or anything.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I want luxury.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I don't need any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'll take the.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Spirit flight to the Caribbean Islands.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Here at the hotel I got you babe.
I'm cheering you on, go for it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, I don't know if you've seen before too.
It's either Bahamas or Bermuda,but there's this island that
you can go swimming with feralpigs.
I think it's the Bahamas, whereyou can go in the ocean and
there's many, many pigs.
But then I've heard lately toothat pigs will take a little
bite of people's ankles or theremight be diseases and as much
as like being with little pigssounds fun to me.
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I'm too like neurotic andanxious about that kind of stuff
.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I may sound very ill-informed by asking this
question, but what are pigsdoing in the water in the first
place?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I know, I know when we get, when we, when we log off
of this too.
I'll send you the video.
But it says a lot ofinfluencers do it that it's
these pigs that just go swimmingin this crystal blue water and
everyone wants to get picturesof them with selfies with 800
pigs.
But now they're starting todisease creeps in and bacteria
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, being that, pigs will swim in anything and
eat anything.
Yeah, I can kind of see thathappening.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
And if they're taking care of their business In the
water with you.
Yeah, that's not good, but hey,they got that photo though,
right.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yep, that's all that matters oh that was a good one.
That was a good one.
Okay, let's see.
Oh, good okay something elsethat I don't want to do Is get
(41:32):
arrested for cyber farting,which this is my first time I've
sentenced to 15 rehab sessionsand 60 days of alcohol
abstinence.
So pretty much she was likesending video after video of her
I hate to even say farting, butlike tooting and just basically
harassing harassing but like somany puns.
(41:55):
But yeah, it was pretty prettyweird.
And so she was like sending amillion videos of herself and I
could just imagine if, like that, was my boyfriend's ex sending
it to me, I'd be like oh yeah,keep sending it, because he's
gonna want, he's not gonna wantyou anymore.
Like you know, that's gonnamake the competition is not
gonna be very high after you'resending this yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I would say that she must still want him to be here.
Yeah, but what?
A weird way to do that.
It's a very sick weird way todo that.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
In the video she positioned the camera to capture
herself passing wind whilelooking at the camera.
It's kind of funny if you do itonce.
It's a little ridiculous if youdo it as a screw you to someone
.
But she sent it over and over,yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I think she's got some issues there.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, I do too.
Imagine being in the courtroomfor this and being the judge.
You have serious cases and thennow you have that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh yeah, judge Robert would look like.
Are you serious this?
Is my jacket for the day.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Now, I know you're a happily married man, but you
don't have any exes that wouldcome into the fold and do this,
do you?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
No.
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And I don't know.
To me there's some things goingon that why would you think
this is okay in the first place?
Yeah, Out of all the things todo.
Yeah, you picked that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Exactly.
It's almost like what do theycall it when the young kids and
this is so funny, this is likeI'm like what like crashing out
is that term now Like when theyyou just kind of lose your mind
and go crazy.
I feel like this is definitelylike a very flatulent version of
crashing out.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I feel like this is definitely a very
flatulent version of CrashingOut.
Yeah, I would have loved tohave seen the judge, though,
when they saw that come acrosstheir caseload.
Yeah, what the.
Yeah, if I was that girl.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I mean, not only did you kind of win, but the new
girlfriend, but like now you getto put that person in jail for
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
If I were to meet a person like that and knew that
passed, yeah, there wouldn't beno relationship.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, that's disgusting, and the fact too,
that you can't really seesomeone farting.
So it just has to be you tohear it and believe it.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
It's disgusting, very , very disgusting.
But we're going to switch thisup to a very, very big topic.
There is a woman Her name isTawana Looney Hopefully I
pronounced her name correctlybut she right now is the longest
living patient that hasreceived a pig kidney.
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So she was in a situation whereshe needs a kidney really bad
and she couldn't be on the donorlist any longer because time
was basically running out.
And because of that situation,they came up with an alternative
for her where they offered herthe opportunity of getting a pig
(44:54):
kidney.
Well, obviously she jumped atit because she had no other
options.
Without that kidney shewouldn't be around any longer.
So everything went well, thesurgery went great.
She still has to do a lot ofcheck-ins and stuff like this to
monitor and make sureeverything's going well.
That was actually a feel-good.
(45:15):
I actually like stuff like thisbecause there's so many people
who unfortunately die whilewaiting for a transplant,
waiting for organs, and this isa good way to um, kind of
supplement that to kind of helppeople out, especially, you know
, running out of time, I don'tknow what do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I mean I think that's amazing, the fact that our
medical system there's's so manygenius, brilliant people in it
the fact that someone could evenlike do those experimental
surgeries in the first place toeven realize that someone did
that you know that it works andlike I wouldn't even know how
someone would like think of thatand then also do the procedures
to like see if it would workout or not.
(45:53):
It's just like people are sobrilliant.
So that makes me really happyand I'm hoping it's not one of
the pigs that were swimming inthe Bahamas with the influencers
.
But I mean this could open uplike a whole new thing.
If it, I mean if this reallyworks like that could be a total
game changer.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Oh yeah, I mean my doing the kidneys, you know,
maybe the heart, maybe othervital organs, and, like I say,
it's a game changer as far asbeing able to extend people's
life and as far as rejection Idon't know the statistics on
that, but again, I think itgives us new hope and gives us a
lot of options to, you know,living, not only living a longer
(46:33):
life, but living a more qualitylife too.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Because you know, living and living in pain is not
really living.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so to be able to live ahealthy life, and okay, maybe
there's some adjustments thatyou had to make, but it's better
than the alternative, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yep, you know how they have like pacemakers for
hard disease.
I really feel like it's only amatter of time before they're
able to almost come up with likethe Beyond Burger version of
like all of our organs.
I'm sure they absolutely havelike pretend gallbladders and
stuff right now, but I feel likewe're just close to having it
be like a seamless thing whereit's like, oh, someone could
(47:13):
have like a you know anintestine made out of whatever
else, but then like it workslike flawlessly fine.
I think that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I agree.
Like I said, I love storieslike this and I'm looking
forward to more of them.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, and wait, how old did you say she was?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
You know what?
They didn't mention her age.
But looking at her I would haveto say she's probably, I would
say maybe, in her maybe late 40s, around 50 maybe and again I'm
just guessing because theydidn't say what her age was.
I'm quite sure I could look itup and find out.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh yeah, no, but she's good.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Okay, the good stuff.
Now we're going to get intosome Grammy talk.
I tried to.
We won't do this for the nexthour, but I easily could talk
about the Grammys with you foran hour.
But last night was the 67thannual Grammy Awards and hosted
by Trevor Noah, which I feellike of all the things I've
heard about.
I haven't heard a lot of TrevorNoah talk, but he's such a
(48:16):
regular.
I think this was his fifth timedoing it, so at this point he's,
you know he's good, he's, he'sgreased in, he's doing awesome,
and so some of the people, thepeople's choices like of you
know things to discuss werealbum of the year Beyonce, which
we'll get back to talking abouther, which made her, I think,
the first Black woman to receivethe honor, I think.
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So.
Record of the song of the yearKendrick Lamar Not Like Us, I'm
just.
We'll obviously talk about allthese, but just wanted to kind
of give a little overview.
Best new artist Chapel Roan.
Best pop vocal album SerenaCarpenter.
And best rap album Dochi, who Ilove so much.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
So I wanted to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
You go first.
Tell me everything you think.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You know what I thought?
It was actually really good.
There were some surprises.
One big surprise and I don'tknow if people noticed it or not
, but Will Smith was there- hewas.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I saw his kids.
One of them had like a house ontheir face.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
But yeah, not only was he there, but he was a.
You know he was a present well,not really a presenter, but you
know he gave a speech on um.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
He did quincy jones yeah oh my gosh, I didn't.
That's so funny because itdidn't.
I didn't really watch the wholething.
I watched like a lot of thehighlights, okay, yeah you know
they did a tribute to quincy j.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
you know he was talking about him and you know
kind of give him his props.
And you know Quincy Jones, fromthe acting side, discovered
Will Smith.
Really he did the Fresh Princeof Bel-Air.
That was Quincy Jones' project.
I did not know that he was aproducer on that.
So you know, really Will Smithowes a lot to that man, you know
(49:56):
, and actually he's an almamater of the college.
My son goes to Berklee Collegeof Music.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh my, which is like one of the best colleges in
music that there is.
That's such a, that's such likean honor to even go there.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I think the performances were
really good.
Um the you know the dressesthis year, I have to admit they
were really nice.
Yeah, they were.
They were elegant at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean yes, I thought so many
people look beautiful.
I thought like olivia rodrigolooked absolutely stunning and
people like classed it up and noone would.
And I feel like people likedoji looked awesome and was
creative, but they weren't liketasteless, like she still looks
so classy exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And you know, everybody still showed their
style, but they did it in a veryelegant way, absolutely.
I I tip my hat off to that.
I mean it was really nice,people had men and women, they
look, everyone looked fabulous,really did.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I got emotional when I saw Xochitl's, her speech, her
acceptance speech, just aboutlike, which I think is such a
great message of, just likeanyone that's watching this,
believe in yourself and I thinkyou know you could accomplish
things.
And I just I don't know, I loveher so much.
That was like I know she'salready been around and really
popular for a while, but to melike that performance was almost
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like watching like a star isborn kind of thing.
You know, when someone I love,sabrina Carpenter, I have to say
I am not.
I am not a Chapel Rhone fan atall.
I may, I don't think, which is,I'm sure, like she's, I don't,
you know, she's a human, so I'msure she's fine, but like I
rarely say I hate things, when Imay have said that last night,
which I felt bad to use the Hword, but she's not my cup of
(51:40):
tea, let's just say that.
But people like her, that'sfine.
And I thought Beyonce seemedextremely surprised to win, like
she really actually seemedsurprised.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I think so, I really do.
You know I don't like the worstenough, but you know they say
that.
You know she actually has beennominated more than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
You know it's questionable.
She probably should have gother flowers A lot earlier.
But I like the fact that shestayed classy.
She didn't talk about it, shejust kept doing her thing until
it was her time, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she stayed very classy.
The funny thing is I don't knowif this was intentional or not,
but I think some of her likebra underwires might have been
coming out, which is the mostrelatable female thing, and,
like a lot of my friends wereposting like this is amazing.
This happens to me all the timewhen, like a lot of the times,
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you'll get like poked in theface with a piece of my bra.
So if that's happening toBeyonce, then like all of us
could feel a little better Now.
Ok, how do you feel?
I know this is controversial,but sometimes Taylor Swift being
up and dancing for likeabsolutely everyone is a little
like pick me, I think.
I do think she's excited forthe music and she's, but like
it's a little bit kind of likelook at me, I find it.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
You know what little bit kind of like look at me, I
find it, you know what.
I kind of look at itdifferently.
I look at it as you know.
She's one of the biggest starson the planet.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And I think she's at a point in her career where it's
like I don't give a F, I'mgoing to have fun, I'm going to
enjoy this ride and I'm going tohave a great time.
And I tip my hat off to herbecause she's like hey, I don't
have to follow trends, I createthem, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's good, okay, good.
Once again.
I think it's like the differentof the, because it's so funny
seeing a video of her dancingand then like truly, 50% of the
comments will be like what agreat girl supporting everyone.
Out of the comments will belike what a great girl
supporting everyone.
Then 50 will be like god, whyis?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
everything she makes everything about herself.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
So I think it's a little bit of both, where I do
think she's very like, almostlike a little kid, very excited,
but to me it's like you she isthe biggest star and so she
knows like half of everything isgoing to be people looking at
her dancing and sometimes I'mjust like, please let the other
person have like a like theirtotal moment without you being
like in the middle of everything.
So I get it.
It could be worse it could belike sitting there with an
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attitude which would be evenworse, you know yeah, and you
know what I?
Speaker 1 (54:03):
I get what your point is because, because she's one
of the biggest stars on theplanet right now that everything
she does is going to be watched.
So it's like sometimes you canunintentionally take away from
someone else's moment.
Yeah, yep, yep, I think so it'salmost like when you go to a
wedding and you got someone thatkind of is wearing something
(54:24):
similar to a wedding gown andthey're not in the wedding.
You know, you kind of take ityeah.
It could kind of be looked atlike that by some people you
know Totally.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's so funny too.
Luckily that doesn't happen aton for me, but at comedy shows
you can just imagine peoplefreaking out when it's not about
them and then they're like andthen what?
And I'm like shut up.
But I mean, if someone wasstanding up for my set the whole
time, the way that Taylor went,I'd be like, okay, that's very
nice, but sit down, it's good.
(54:55):
I think we're all.
This is what I mean.
It's like if I didn't, we'reall chronically online to the
point where I'm getting upsetabout like Chapel Road and like
Taylor Swift's standing.
So this is all.
When I feel this way, it's justa sign to like go hike in the
woods and get a life, like Isaid, you know it's all in good
fun.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
I want to ask you a question Getting back to Will
Smith Technically, yeah, nowtechnically, he was banned for
10 years.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Obviously hasn't been 10 years, right?
How do you feel about seeinghim, uh, at the grammys?
Um, in his speech did hereference anything that happened
at all?
oh, absolutely not no, okay,okay, uh.
I I feel like it's fine.
I think maybe he should havehad some like in his speech,
like either, maybe not a joke,but like some type of some
sentence, of some sentiment oflike thank you for like a.
(55:40):
You know, I've reflected andthank you for like letting me be
part of this great night again.
I think that would have beenlike a classy thing to do.
I understand maybe he justwants to move past it and not
not acknowledge it, but, um, Idon't know, like I don't really
know, because I'm not upset withhim being back, but I think it
would have been nice to hearSome type of acknowledgement
from him.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, well, actually I take that back.
That's the Grammys.
He was banned from the Emmys, Ithink, not from the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Oh, really, oh wait, because Chris Rock was hosting
the.
Oh, maybe it was the Emmys, Iforget.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Either it was the Emmys or the Oscars.
One of the two, oh, it was theOscars.
It was the Oscars.
That's why, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
We won't see him at the Oscars, but we will see him
at the Grammys.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Okay, but you know what I mean.
Everyone deserves a secondchance, yeah.
People got to realize we all dostupid stuff, gotta realize we
all do stupid stuff.
You know, maybe, maybe not onthat magnitude, but I'll do
stupid stuff.
Yeah, you know, the intent wasthere.
Um, what he was trying to do,it was the wrong way to do it,
(56:46):
you know?
Speaker 2 (56:46):
yes, totally, and I feel like we we never, I'm sure,
like we talked about before,when that actually happened,
like I met him and jada, like wedon't know all the things, all
the little triggers that werehappening that were like that
was the final straw, you know,which is never a good, that's
not a reason to ever hurtsomeone, but still a little
crazy.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
You know, during during the the dedication, the
Quincy Jones.
I listened to a lot of QuincyJones music cause he's made a
lot of music over the years andhe's got some great stuff.
I was a little surprised thatthey didn't play some of his
other songs, because Quincy dida lot of producing in the
(57:24):
background.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Michael Jackson, a bunch ofother artists and stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
I was really surprised that they didn't have
other music for him.
Me too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, I definitely think they should have had even
more medleys with, like, maybesome of those people coming out
too.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Mm-hmm, but, like I said, no one can take away from
the Q, as they say yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
And overall I thought it was pretty good.
Like I know a lot of peoplefelt like Billie Eilish kind of
got snubbed.
Oh, pretty good.
Like I know a lot of peoplefelt like billy eilish kind of
got snubbed.
I can't imagine if I was hertoo when you're so young and you
like for for many years she'sbeen winning so many things and
almost like I felt like that thewhole the song that she did for
barbie, like I thought that wasgood.
But it was almost getting liketo me like okay, like I don't
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know, the accolades are like alittle off the charts.
So now I'm sure it probablyfeels a little confusing to like
have a uh award show and nottake home anything, but I mean
that's just what it is.
So I mean like hopefully thesepeople know that they're, you
know, so successful in differentways they don't need a grammy
another one.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Do you think that, um , as far as the people who won,
do you think, uh, the rightpeople won?
Speaker 2 (58:33):
yeah, I mean I love, love, love.
I was really happy that, uh,sabrina carpenter, her album won
, because I think that'sactually a really good album,
like I.
When I listened to it I waslike, oh, this is an album that
is like different types of music, it's not just kind of like pop
girl, um, and I thought she hadthe right people on it.
I thought it was like that tome was good.
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Chapel roanan Heck.
No, take her off.
I'm ready for her to go away.
She really bugs the heck out ofme.
So I think a million I wouldhave chosen like anyone else,
but her plush.
She's been in the industry forlike 11 years.
I don't know, she just annoysthe heck out of me.
And I've also heard, yeah, forthe most part, kendrick Not Like
(59:18):
Us.
I mean that was definitely asong of the year, I think for
many people.
I mean, if you're Drake too andyou just watch people dancing
to that, aren't you like in pain?
That has to be the worstfeeling.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, especially when you know what the song is about
.
I know.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
And just watching like all of the or not a lot,
but most of many importantpeople in music, just watching
them uh dance to like yourdownfall is just so weird yeah,
I, like I said, I don't evenknow how it all started, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
But um, I I know the beef is like because you know
they're talking about that.
That's got something to do withwhy, you know, little Lil Wayne
got snubbed for the Super Bowland all that, oh yeah yeah, how
true it is, I don't know.
But I don't know.
I mean, sometimes these beefscan really get out of control.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yes, oh, and I saw, I love Cynthia Erivo and I know
she was part of the Quincy thingtoo.
I just think she is like sotalented and I've seen her, I
love her on the red carpet.
She just seems like verygracious.
I know people were laughing atsome of her being ridiculous
about like the wicked you knowhow she would act in the press
interviews, but to me she seemslike very poised and extremely
(01:00:24):
nice to anyone that comes up toher.
And I think she's like sounbelievably talented.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I agree, I agree, I like I said, overall I think it
was a great, great show.
Yeah, me too.
It was very cool.
So, yeah, I like it.
The one thing that was not sogood, now I'm quite sure, no
matter what your age, you knowwho Babyface is.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yes, oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And there was this group of women I don't even know
who they are, to be honest withyou, because there's so many
different people interviewingand they got Babyface to come
over and do an interview.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And there was somebody else walking by, and
they were like, oh my God, oh myGod, it was Chapel Rowan.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
It was Chapel Rowan, and you know Babyface got pissed
off, gave him the mic andwalked away, and it's like.
You know you have to be smartabout what you do.
You know this guy is a multiGrammy winning artist, yes, and
he's been doing this a long time, yeah.
And if you know baby face andyou're in the industry, okay,
nine times out of 10, if you'rereally hitting, at one point
(01:01:30):
you've even met him or work withhim Okay.
So to get him to stop and talkto you is a big deal To do.
That to me.
I thought it was verydisrespectful.
I mean, it got to the pointthey got so much backlash that
they actually went on the airand apologized to him.
I think I don't know.
I mean, granted, we're smallpeas in a pod compared to them
(01:01:51):
being on the red carpet, buteven me new, not knowing
everything, even I would not dothat, whether it be baby face or
whoever.
If some big star gave me theopportunity to interview them,
I'm not going to slap them inthe face by oh, they're going to
saw something.
You don't do that.
You know.
That's right.
I don't know.
(01:02:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Oh my gosh, this is is like I'm so into this.
I just I talked about this witha friend.
This was our whole lunchconversation and basically you
know like obviously I'm in thecrazy land of Los Angeles, so it
happens a lot where you're likeat a party talking to someone
and then someone with eitherwho's like more popular in the
moment or someone with cloutlike comes in and what you don't
do is exactly what that persondid, which is like drop the
(01:02:33):
person that you're talking toand immediately go slobber on
the new person.
And I feel like the tactful,classy way is to almost like
call that new person over and belike please tell me that you
and Babyface know each other.
Or like, oh my gosh, I wouldlove to see a collab and like
there you have two artists whichnow we get to see like two
amazing people talking, and likeyou know, you may have just
(01:02:54):
sparked, like them talking, andthen you can easily, if you're
baby face, you've done enoughinterviews.
Right now you kind of know, okay, it's your time to transition
out and that's like the tactfulway to do things.
I just thought this, this showslike poor journalism, but I
also have some a little bit ofunderstanding where I think
sometimes in these high pressurethings, a lot of like the
lights and the cameras andeverything just gets to us and I
(01:03:16):
feel like I would also chalk itup to just excitement and I
feel like we've probably allunknowingly been at a party and
like been a little bit likethere's my friend and, like you
know, made someone else feel alittle bit bad.
So I think that person like Idon't think she should be
dragged to hell.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
No-transcript they have to understand is there are
other celebrities watching this,and there may be some
celebrities that I'd be like.
No, I remember.
I remember what they did at thebaby face.
No, I ain't going to talk tothem.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Exactly, and there's that saying like, act like
you've been there before, and Ifeel like that journalist did
not act like she was therebefore you know, and so, if
anything you could almost saylike you know, you wrap it up
with him and then you're likeokay, out of the corner of my
eye I see Chapel Roan.
Have you heard of her, have you?
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
like almost transitioned them into one
another.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
But I also like I can't say I would do this
perfectly.
I think I would flub a lot ofthings.
So I understand, like making amistake, but I think that's also
so funny that now we getfeedback in real time where she
had to apologize like as she wasdoing the interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, yeah, she got very immediate feedback from
that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, but I mean that's just how it is too.
The industry is really toughand Chapel Rhone who she was
like slobbering all over now, ina few years Chapel's going to
be old news and you know, like alot of the people that were
like Babyface was once like thefresh and upcoming person that
probably got a lot of theattention, and now it's sad that
we just kind of like usher somepeople out and, you know, only
(01:05:15):
pay attention to the select few.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That's true.
That's true.
Just, she just had tounderstand that, though he may
not be the front person rightnow, he's still got a lot of
power behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I know, I know and I feel like some of these things
are just so much about likewho's hot in that moment and
then, like next year, they'llkind of not be hot anymore, you
know that is so, so, true, so sotrue.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Wow, what a great, great show.
Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I wish our show was like nine hours long.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
You know it could be and you know the sad part about
it is or funny, depending on howyou look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
This is a perfect example, that we will never,
ever run out of stuff to talkabout.
Yeah, yeah in fact, it was hardfor me to put my list together
what to talk about, because itwas so much stuff really, yeah
and I love, and the thing aboutus like our show too is we
welcome different viewpoints,like in a respectful way, like
if people see things differently.
If, like someone feels liketaylor swift standing up is like
the cutest thing they've everseen, I want to hear it.
(01:06:18):
You know, like I love.
I love that kind of stuffbecause I feel like there is so
much news going on that we'reall trying to like synthesize in
our brains what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
So I love that yeah, and this is like a side a side,
a side thing here.
But you know, when they weretalking about taylor swift, they
zoomed in on her leg and Iguess she had like a piece in
the T which was OK.
That was kind of cool.
But I don't know, that kind ofwas borderline creepy to me,
like dude, why are you zoomingin on her leg?
Or is it just me?
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I think everyone's, especially with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I mean, I know the team might be for her or for
Taylor, but like of courseeveryone wants to be for her or
for taylor, but like of courseeveryone wants to be for travis.
So no, I think, I think shewants it.
Oh my god, we didn't even talkabout, uh, kanye's wife or
girlfriend, bianca.
You know what, you know what we, we should be over, but we got
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
We got.
Yeah, we have to talk aboutthat.
Oh my god, she would not beable to fly on Spirit Airlines.
I'm sorry, bianca, we got tocover it up.
I mean, her body is out ofcontrol.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Do me a favor, just so people know.
Explain to them what we'retalking about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Okay.
So Kanye showed up with I don'tknow if it's his wife, I think
it's his wife, bianca, and shewas wearing a completely,
completely see-through dress.
It's almost like it's just asheer dress, and then you can
see everything, like atliterally naked nipples, you
know, buttocks, front lips,everything.
Everything is happening.
And so she started by being onthe red carpet with her, just
(01:07:46):
her tushy showing, and theneveryone is like oh my god, oh
my god.
And then she turned around andshe was literally like nude.
And so a lot of people are likethis is what kanye does to his
people.
They, you know, he makes themwear this kind of stuff and it's
a little bit like I think hethinks it's artsy, but instead
women wear this.
You know, kim k was dressed alittle bit like how kanye wanted
(01:08:08):
it to be when they were in arelationship.
But I'd like to think thatbianca has agency, hopefully,
over like what she's wearing.
But I mean, to me everyone'sbody is beautiful, but her body
really is like a work of art.
I'm not grossed out by it, Ithink it's beautiful, but I just
have to imagine sitting therethe whole night.
Aren't you a little cold?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I mean, you know what .
To each his own in everyrelationship.
I don't think that was the timeor the place to do that Really.
Yeah, to me personally.
I would not want a wife,girlfriend or anyone who's with
me to look like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
To me that's disrespectful.
I really am.
I have nothing wrong with awoman dressing sexy or whatever.
Up until that I would say, Idon't care what a woman dressing
sexy or whatever.
And you know, up until that Iwould say I don't care what a
woman wears, it's up to her.
That's probably the exceptionto the rule.
No, you're not going to bewearing that.
I mean, you might as well justtake everything off, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
But I'm like okay, kanye, then you have to do that.
Now you have to wear like asheer, like if you're going to
have her next to you, like youneed to be naked.
I think it would be amazing ina different story if someone
like her showed up completely ontheir own and it's like her own
journey.
But it's the fact that it'sattached to him too.
I think sometimes people arelike you know, when Kim was
dating him or married to him, Ifeel like her style was totally
(01:09:28):
like what he wanted it to be,and so oh yeah, and you know the
thing is, you could be abeautiful woman without showing
everything.
You don't have to do that.
Yeah, and I think some peopleare going to say that he did
that because he wants attention,you know, yeah, yeah, yep, but
I mean like kudos to her, for ifyou're gonna do it, she pulled
(01:09:49):
it off in terms of how it lookedand like I actually don't think
I don't know if it's her figure, what happened, but to me, like
when she was actually up thereon her, I actually don't think I
don't know if it's her figure,what happened, but to me, like
when she was actually up thereon her own, I don't think she
looked like not classy at all.
I actually thought she lookedlike a beautiful, like a model
painting or you know somethingthat someone would draw or
something.
So when I actually saw her, Ididn't think it looked like
gross, I thought she looked verypretty and beautiful.
(01:10:11):
So, yeah, and like, like I said.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I remember he came to one awards event and he had a
mask on and Kanye likes to take.
Oh, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, with the pantyhose and stuff.
I remember that's how Kim K wasdressing too, with the
ridiculous spandex over her face.
It's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Well, he accomplished what he wanted.
He wanted to get some attention, so he got that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Honestly, I like her outfit better than what Chapel
Rhone wore.
With the big that she almostlooked like an organized group.
That I don't like as a Jewishperson.
But she was wearing a bigwizard hat.
She looked ridiculous and Ihate that makeup.
I know lots of people like itand I may get some flack.
But she looked ridiculous and Ihate that makeup.
I know lots of people like itand I may get some flack but to
(01:10:58):
me I'll take a naked person overthat any day.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I hear you on that, Kudos, I guess.
To Kanye for pulling it off, Iguess, yeah, literally pulling
it off.
Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, pulling it all off.
Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Oh wow, that was good .
That was a good way to end itYay Well.
Well, meryl, what do you havecoming up?
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Oh my gosh, if anyone is Watching on Wednesday.
I'm in San Diego Wednesdaynight Doing a comedy show in
Ocean Beach, and then I haveshows All around Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Oh, good, good Name some of the places that you're
going to be at.
Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I will be at a place called the Glendale Room, which
is in Glendale, which is likeright next to Pasadena in Los
Angeles.
I will be at Flappers inBurbank where Jay Leno performs
a lot, which is super cool, andI think that's it for now.
Yeah, that's it for February.
Oh, santa Barbara, santaBarbara too.
I'm at a really cool venue inSanta Barbara called the Red
(01:11:58):
Piano, which is like a piano bar.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Nice, nice.
Yeah, you definitely got a fullschedule.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And I will not be dressing like Bianca.
I'm so sorry everyone.
I will not be dressing likeTaylor Swift dancing.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, meryl, it was definitely a pleasure, you too,
and for everyone, don't forgetto Watch us on ElrodTVnetworkcom
, as well as our New podcastthat we have on All major
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sure that you listen to us,subscribe to us and let
everybody know who we are.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I am Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Have a great day, everyone Bye.
Have a great day, everyone bye.
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I amMeryl Clemo.
Elrod, and I am Meryl Clemo.
We have a very full packed showtoday.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's been a lot of stuff, that's happened since the
last time we were here so muchthe other day, I was like you
ever have those moments whereyou're so saturated with like
every single story and socialmedia and I was like the drones,
the planes, Selena Gomez, ohyes.
And I had to stop myself fromlike all the Blake Lively Like,
yeah, it was like compressing inmy head.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, there was some sad stuff and a lot of happy
stuff all mixed in, so a lot ofrange of emotions in this week's
episode.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Totally Absolutely.
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Actually, I'm going to let you go first.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, thank you.
Well, it's so funny because Ialways feel like we record and
then I feel like the day afterwe record, no matter what day,
it is always something like onething very funny and weird
always happens where I'm likeit's going to take a week, but
we're going to talk about it,and so for me, that thing was
Selena Gomez crying on theinternet, which to some is
already old news, but there'sstill elements of it that I want
(01:23):
to talk about.
Where, for anyone on earth thatmight not have seen it or heard
about it, third party SelenaGomez took to Instagram or
TikTok, I think, and thenrecorded herself crying,
basically, which like seemedlike a real moment.
You know, I very much believethat in that moment she had real
feelings and like I totally,absolutely believe that she felt
sad and bad and helpless andhopeless, like how a lot of us
(01:46):
often feel.
But you know, she took someheat because she was saying
things like I wish I could dosomething to help, but I can't
really help and, you know,saying some things like my
people, which some made their,you know, made that statement
kind of fit their agenda of whatshe was actually saying.
So I mean, my thing, too, isSelena definitely tends to get
(02:08):
herself in the middle of somethings where, like she, I like
her, but she definitely does tome.
I find that she does makeherself like a victim a lot of
times or like a why me?
But I honestly don't think shedoes it purposefully.
I think she's just been like achild star for so many years
that she may be like a littlebit out of touch, but I really
do think she is someone that herheart is in the right place,
like I.
I don't find her extremely like, rude or you know.
(02:29):
I think she actually probablyis a good person, just a little
like out there.
But then what I wanted to talkabout is now the Trump
administration had taken thevideo and like posted it on
their, on the white houseaccounts, but then also edited
some other things of like peopleon the other, the border crying
and you know, kind of sayinglike why she shouldn't be crying
.
(02:49):
So I know that's a lot.
What do you think about allthis?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, I mean, I think that I applaud her for taking a
stance on this platform,because she is a big, well-known
star.
There's a lot of people thatlisten to her, that love her,
that follow her and stuff, andhere's the reality of it.
People may be making memesabout her, laughing and joking
all this, but there are negativerepercussions that this country
(03:16):
is going to feel too by goingafter all these immigrants.
Because, one, there's a lot ofbusinesses I know in my area, um
, that are hispanically run anda lot of them have workers that
aren't showing up for work.
There's a lot of agriculture,like farms and stuff like that,
(03:37):
that have workers that are tooscared to come to work, and a
lot of those things mostamericans won't do and the
immigrants will, so theyactually serve a purpose.
So it's really too early toknow what the effect is, but I
think that when someone wants touse their platform for comments
, stuff like that, but whenyou're a big of a star, as she
(03:58):
is you know what.
By this point in her career sheprobably lets that stuff roll
off her back.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah Well, I think part of it was like the
messaging, the way that it wasdone, because then she took it
down and then she posted on herInsta story saying like I guess
we can't show empathy anymore.
But I feel like I agree withsome of the people that were
angry about it saying you know,I think she does give a lot of
money to like wildfires and Ifeel like she is someone like
taylor swift that donates a lotof her money.
(04:31):
I think the whole thing wouldhave had more impact if she was
like hey, I'm donating fivethousand dollars to this, like
women's refugee group, or I'mdonating this or that, or you
know.
I think it was kind of like ina moment where she's on there
crying, someone had a goodstatement, where they're like in
the middle of all this, likeyou want us to feel bad for you,
you know, like we're notfeeling.
So I think she could havealmost shown like hey, here's
(04:55):
some organizations I'm donatingto and I'm really upset about
this, instead of just kind ofcrying and saying like I'm sorry
, I can't help you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But I get it.
Yeah, I mean, I get.
I mean, some people they handlethings differently.
Um what I have done, all thatcrying and everything in front
of the camera?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
probably not no, and you feel like, well, we all know
, mine would glitch up annoyingme.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'd be like oh wait, I'm stuck crying but you know, I
mean, like I said, everybody,everybody expresses herself in
their own way yeah especiallythe white house reposting it
that's true and you know thecrazy thing about it is in a
sick way, you know, by the whitehouse people.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh, reposting it actually kind of helps her out
and they don't realize that,because then people like come to
her rescue that were normallyyeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
They see her having empathy and oh yeah, and then
you, you're gonna have peoplethat go.
Well, who is this person?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
and she may pick up some listeners and fans along
the way, because of this tooyeah, definitely, and I I think
it's a slippery slope because Ifeel like a lot of times with
celebrities whenever they talk,we all find it annoying and like
it's like get out of here.
But then if they don't sayanything, people are like why
aren't you speaking up?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
so I could see how it would be confusing yeah, um,
like I said, you know, I tip myhat off to her.
You know, again, I probablywouldn't have did the crying
thing, but outside of that,you're so nice.
I applaud her, you know oh mygod, so you're.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
so we have a good balance, because I'm just like
she's a perpetual victim.
It's good, though, because Ifeel like a lot of times we'll
represent, like what people feelon the internet.
You know, not everyone sees thesame thing, like all the same
ways, but I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh yeah, you got to have a healthy conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Absolutely Healthy thirsty conversations.
I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
There you go.
Talk about thirsty.
I don't know if you heard thisor not, but athletes, primarily
female athletes around thecountry have been stalked, where
there are people that knowtheir flight itinerary, meet
them at the airport, kind ofbombard them for signatures and
(07:02):
stuff.
A lot of these signatures, likefor some of these athletes, are
worth a lot of money and youknow it's kind of creepy when
you think about it, especiallywhen it's the same group of
people, at different points thatyou go to, that are there,
because that's kind of likeborderline stalking.
Some people will call itstalking.
It definitely is, I mean, doyou think that's kind of
(07:23):
concerning, though, if you werean athlete, and everywhere you
go you kind of see the samegroup of people there?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah.
Do you think are these peoplethat are there to then get their
autograph to resell it, or doyou think they're, like crazy
fans for the person itself, or amixture of both?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think honestly, because some people think it's
organized Okay, because thishappens to way too many athletes
I think it's for reselling theautographs and making money
personally.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Wow, then that's like that's not fair.
I feel like that should be.
You shouldn't hound someone Ifanything, like after a game, or
there should be some time wherethey're actually on the clock
working, because I feel likeright now they're not working're
traveling, you know I don'tknow, and I would I wonder if
most of them travel with uh,either like private security or
team security.
(08:13):
I would have to think that thatwould be.
Hopefully they have like peoplewith them, um, but no, I think
that's a weird place and likethe airport should kind of be a
sanctuary area where peopleshouldn't get hounded.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh yeah, and you know the thing is, some people go
well, you know why?
Can't they just hire security?
Well, there's only a smallpercentage that are like really
wealthy.
Yeah, if they have security,they pay for their own security.
No one else pays for that.
That's not free.
So I agree with you, I thinkit's kind of sad that the
(08:48):
airports aren't doing a littlebit more, because no one
deserves to be harassed at aairport.
I would think that that wouldbe some kind of major risk to
the airport that you know yougot these people constantly
following people around fromairport to airport.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, I know, and so and those people I guess,
are parking at the airport andobviously they're not going in
where you get the ticket, butthey're going in where they get
out.
Like that is.
That is annoying.
Also, like, do men's teams getsecurity?
Cause I feel like I couldpicture with, like a basketball
team, them having some type oflike already, not even private,
but like it comes with the team.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, I'm quite sure that if the athletes are with
their team, there's probablysecurity, um, but if they're by
themselves, I would I mean, Idon't know, but I would think
that the security would be onthem yeah, that's really scary
and I bet I would bet that someof the people probably have
followed them home in a car orlike wherever they're going, you
know, getting their rental carlike that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't, I would not put it above people doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Oh yeah, I mean, if you think about even the NBA,
where top salary in the WNBA, Iwant to say it was around
$75,000 a year.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh my gosh Really.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Men in the NBA.
Their top salary is, you knowit could be anywhere from $10
$20 million a year yeah.
Or more depending on who you are.
So you know, when you're makingthat kind of money, yeah, you
can definitely have a full-timesecurity, which you can.
Yeah, and you know the thing is, women's sports are actually
(10:20):
very competitive.
They actually have a lot ofpeople that are interested in
watching them and following them.
You know, I kind of hope thatthe pay kind of helps balance
out a little bit, because theseare the little things that
people overlook, why they needmore pay and why a lot of those
athletes go overseas becausethey don't make the money here
in the States.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I feel like if I was like afamous athlete, I would almost
schedule something once a monthwhere I'm like OK, real, actual
fans can come and I'll signanything you want, but like I'll
just have a policy where I willnever sign anything getting off
a plane or like never signanything from you know,
paparazzi like on the side ofthe hotel or whatever.
But I would be like, if youwant to, I'll sign anything like
(10:59):
in this day in New York.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But you know what?
That's actually good becauseone by having fans there true
fans that to me makes it alittle bit safer.
So if someone does come inthere with ill intentions,
there's people that's going tostop them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, no, that is scary, though, knowing that.
I remember hearing.
Remember didn't someone'sfootball player?
His house just got broken into.
Was it like Joe Burrows orsomething, or?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Several.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Really, because I've heard that's a thing too, where
people will track theirschedules and then know that
they're out of the, they're nothome and that they have like
these big beautiful houses andthat they target them too.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh yeah, I mean there's been multiple athletes
and the crazy thing, they do itwhile they're playing, so it's
like they know their fullschedule, they know their house
is empty, so you can tellthey're being cased and this is
like all throughout the UnitedStates from various teams, so
you can kind of tell it'sorganized, it's not.
It's not just a bunch of guysis getting together doing this,
it's actually an organized groupdoing it.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, and also I know how I am at airports and the
last thing I want to do, I justwant to go buy, like a Hershey's
chocolate bar.
I don't want to sign stuff oranything, so I feel like I would
be like so annoyed and you knowyou get off with like the head
pillow and you're tired andyou're always like so bloated
after a flight.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm like I don't want you.
I hear you.
It's beginning to be a crazyworld, merle.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I know.
Okay, my next thing is aperfect transition, because I
think this is so silly.
So, speaking of someone thatmaybe staged a meet and greet,
and you know, I think I'm like Itold you from the beginning,
I'm a conspiracy theorist and Ithink I found a conspiracy I
like.
So I don't know if you've seenthe videos, but Ryan Reynolds,
who has been way in the newslately, of course, because of
the Baldoni case, has you know?
Now people are saying last weekwe talked about how he's him
(12:53):
and Blake were posting likeInstagram stories that to make
it extra look like hey, here'sour friends.
And like, hey, we're good people.
And recently it went viral onTikTok video people.
And recently it went viral onTikTok video of him with a meet
and greet but, like audiencemembers quickly rushed to the
idea that it's fake becauseeveryone has like the same
Deadpool thing and people arelike everyone is just saying
(13:16):
Ryan, ryan, ryan, like no one'ssaying anything different, and
everyone is like I smell a ratand so I am part of that.
Of course, but the incident tookplace outside new york city,
where you know it's not unlikefor ryan to obviously get swarms
of people anyway if they knowhe's there, but the fact that,
like everyone had a blue markerand like dead pit pool
(13:37):
paraphernalia just right thereready to go and it just seems so
fake and like everyone that Iknow, I don't know, I just got
caught up in the wave where I'mlike, oh he's just, he's framing
this to like look even morefamous.
I feel like you believe in itbecause you're sweet and
innocent you know what I thinkwas real wink, wink, no.
I'm not worried about that, likethat's.
(13:58):
I'm sorry, but, and I love thiskind of stuff because this is
why so much, I love TikTok andlike any anything that gives the
voice to the people, becausepeople aren't falling for the
same bull.
You know what you know.
I just think, like I thinknowadays in 2025, we're able to
see through whether it's fake ornot, like we're able to discern
things a little bit more andkind of see when things are
(14:21):
rigged and fake.
So I love it.
I mean, if it wasn't laid on alittle bit thick, maybe they
could have put it on yeah, andone of the things is people said
celebrities rarely sign thingswith blue pens because I guess
that's the marker that ends uplike transferring and people
resell it.
So someone is like, yeah, ryanwould like absolutely not sign
(14:42):
something with a blue pen.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I never did that Okay .
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yep, Yep, Just I mean , who knows how real that is.
But just one piece of thingthat I saw I just love like, if
that's the case, I love thethought of these like
celebrities and PR peopleputting this out, thinking they
could hoodwink us.
And then I love the idea of,like the wave of people just
coming back and like making funof them and making it 10 times
worse.
And like to me, if I was Blakeand Ryan, like you, you, you
(15:10):
have to choose a different paththan what you're doing, Cause
all of this is just making itlook even more insincere and
like even more crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I think that when you're in the middle of you
know any kind of legalproceeding, you gotta be careful
what you do.
You gotta be careful what yousay, because sometimes what you
do or say can backfire on you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, it is.
And in this day and age,everyone's like extra cynical
right now, you know, I thinkalso in times of economic
hardship and like inflation andstuff, we tend to get extra like
nibbly on each other and things, and I think people are like
looking for what's fake and Ithink right now is the time to
just like be real with people.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean.
The thing is is that you know,even though we laugh, we joke
about it and stuff like that,but when you're in a court
proceeding everything you sayand do, both potential jurors
and the courts are actuallylooking at it.
You have to be careful how youdo stuff, because the last thing
you want to do is give theopposition ammunition they need
(16:06):
to beat your case yes, yes, andI think no one is impressed
nowadays like that's not goingto change anyone's opinion.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
If I'm team justin baldoni and I see ryan doing
like a meet and greet, I'm notgoing to be like whoa, actually
he's famous, never mind like andlike it.
Just I can't see how like anaction like that would actually
help sway anyone's opinion.
Or maybe it's just to make themfeel better, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's true, that's true, but you got to give them
an A for effort, though, right.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't know this one .
I give Selena maybe a B-minusand I give Ryan a C+, but I am
obsessed now, whether it's theyounger kids, kids, or I think
it might be Gen Z or something,but I love how people are seeing
things and they're like.
This doesn't feel right to me.
Let's at least like talk aboutit.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I love that so much.
That's true.
That's true.
That tells you people arepaying attention, though, right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Exactly Well, unfortunately, I do want to
acknowledge something veryhorrific that has happened.
This is talking about the DCplane crash.
Oh, my God, With the airlinercrash into a military helicopter
.
You know for me, Merle, theteam here at Thirsty Topics,
(17:26):
Thirsty Conversation, the ElroyTV network, we definitely want
to send out our thoughts andprayers to those families who
have lost their loved ones.
You are definitely in ourthoughts and our prayers today.
Just wow, I mean just wow.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Let me ask you a question what?
What was your reaction when yousaw the story break?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
oh, my god, like horrific.
You know, knowing that I don'tknow if we'll ever hear the
actual, like real truth of whatreally happened and what.
You know, whether it's anaccident or whatever happened,
on what account.
Um, but my first thought wasjust the human part really,
which is just putting myself inthese people's situations of
like that feeling when you're soclose to landing on a plane and
(18:12):
you're already kind of thinkingahead of what you're going to
be doing and, like you know, I'mone of those people which I'm
sure many people are where it'slike you start kind of texting
people like landed, even thoughyou haven't quite landed yet,
and so just thinking of allthose people that were in that
doing that, and the, the crew,and the fact that the plane was
going like just straight along,thinking that they were, you
know, doing their thing, and allof a sudden this horrific thing
(18:34):
happened.
Um, not so much like it doesn'tmake me beyond scared of flying
in general, because I think,sadly, these things just do
happen every now and then, butit's like, I don't know, it's
just so unexpected and soterrible that it's obviously
like extremely tragic and Idon't know if you saw too, but
they released a photo of liketwo of the people and sitting
(18:55):
there and then you could seelike all the other just kind of
normal, everyday looking peoplethat just look like they'd be on
a flight and they're allsitting behind and it's so eerie
knowing what's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I mean, the scary thing about it was it was
so instant and so quick and youknow there's questions about you
know, was it pilot error?
You know?
Did the pilot in the militaryhelicopter did they see?
You know the?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
plane.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Were they looking at the wrong plane?
I just want to say for peoplethey should really stop doing
that until it's officially whathappens.
Obviously the family is payingattention too.
Some of the things coming outas well.
This could have been prevented.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We don't know.
We don't know who the airtraffic controllers were.
We don't know who the we don'tknow.
Yet it's weird nowadays, too,that we have to put a political
spin on everything right away.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, because the thing about it is that you have
to understand this is so hurtfulto the families and sometimes
the families kind of get lost inthe shuffle.
Yeah, these 67 people havefamilies that are mourning their
deaths.
They're still hurting right now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
And weren't they like figureskaters?
Or some of their figure skaterswere on there too, just coming
from like a practice or achampionship, or they were
coming from.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, these were a lot of kids.
Yeah, you know, one thing thatno parent wants to do is bury
their child.
I mean, that's one, to me, oneof the most horrific things you
could have to do as a parent.
And you know, lay off all thewell this could happen.
Oh, it was DEI, it was this andthat.
Lay off all that nonsense.
(20:36):
Right, more we don't know.
Of course it's not DEI.
So stop with that nonsense aswell, too, and just just let
them have a time to mourn.
Yes, once it comes out, theywill tell us what happened.
Ok, right now, it's allspeculation, that's all it all
it is exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I feel like the only conversation besides the human
like tragedy, one that maybecould peak out in the next
couple of days, would be like atthe actual airport, at the dc
airport, because I've heard frompeople too that that's like a
congested airport and that seemsto be happening a lot, and I'm
like that would be the onlything right away where I'm like,
okay, maybe you need to stop,like, the training right there
(21:15):
at night immediately or stopwhatever's happening.
But other than that, you'reright, I don't think there
should be any speculation,rather than just like is this
airport too crowded or congestedsometimes?
And if so, let's stop thattoday.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And the thing is, is that, unfortunately, we you know
, fortunately we will learn fromthis?
Yeah, once it's said, you know,I guess, because the military's
involved and I could be wrong,I don't know if they'll be 100
transparent, I hope they know, Idon't think they would I know,
I know if it was two justregular aircrafts, I think it's
(21:54):
different.
But once the military's involved, two just regular aircrafts, I
think it's different.
But once the military'sinvolved, they may or may not be
100.
They have to say something.
They just can't ignore it.
But I guess the question is howtransparent do you think they
will be?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't at all.
Either the military will try tocover something up or I don't
know, and especially if itdoesn't play into the dei
initiative, it's just, and alsolike I don't know if you heard
when, and this is like anyone ofany political partisan belief
could like think this isridiculous.
But when trump gave his speechabout it, like his big long
(22:28):
thing, he was saying what the,the faa was, was looking for,
and he made it sound likethey're actively recruiting like
paralyzed people with no limbsand like that's what they're
looking for.
And I'm like he's making itsound like they're just looking
for people that are not good attheir jobs, when they're just
trying to have like a clausesaying basically we'll interview
anyone and we're not like onlygoing to hire dwarfs.
(22:51):
Or you know he was saying thesethings, that I'm like he was
saying these things and I'm likeI feel like I'm watching a
crazy movie.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I give you credit for watching way more
than I did, because when hefirst came on he had the silence
and honor for the victims.
I thought that was theappropriate thing.
I applaud him for that.
But then when he started totell the DEI nonsense, I turned
away.
There was no way I would watchthat.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I know it was, and he basically read off what the FAA
was looking, what was activelyrecruiting, but he made it sound
as though, like they're onlygoing to be hiring air traffic
controllers that have, that aremissing limbs or that are
paralyzed.
My boyfriend and I werewatching it and just cracking up
because of, like I know whathe's trying to do, but it's not
no one, I think, is going tobelieve that like what, what
(23:34):
they're just trying to find,like air traffic controllers
only that are not good at theirjob.
That's not what was happening.
So and we don't even know ifthat was like, if that was the
case.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Besides being crazy, you know that wasn't the time to
do that.
That was not the time to dothat.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, it's just time to comfort the loved ones.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It was so ridiculous and so disrespectful.
Yeah, and I'm no dummy, I knowthat politics is very thick in
this country yeah, even on bothsides of the aisle people were
like this is ridiculous, this isjust despicable.
It was disgusting and, like Isaid, even though we don't talk
(24:13):
about a lot of it on the show, Ido watch politics.
I had to turn away from thatthat was really yeah, really
ridiculous.
You know, and the thing is,here's the crazy thing about it,
now that they released all thepictures and stuff yeah, the
pilots were white men.
Yeah, women, I mean, theyweren't, you know,
african-americans, they weren'tLatinos.
(24:34):
So, and even if they were, sowhat?
You know, so what?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But just to show you how stupid and ridiculous that
conversation was, I know, againtrying to make it sound like
everything's falling apartbecause of that.
Yeah, it's just, it'sridiculous and I think it should
have only been talked aboutthat like a tragedy just
happened.
We're going to stop all thetraining, like for the next week
in Washington, and figure outwhat's happening, or we're going
(25:02):
to move the training, you know,like anything that was actually
happening on plane crashes, oris the aviation industry like a
little less safe than it alwaysis?
You know, I don't really know,but I know after that there's
been a whole rash of not aslarge crashes, but there was
that one in Philadelphia.
(25:22):
There was like Santa Barbara,there was two here in California
, but it's like a lot of timesthese things happen.
We just now they'resensationalized because you know
, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I mean the one in Philadelphia, the one, uh, that
actually kind of caughteverybody's um attention,
because that was literally whata day or two after, yeah.
So you know, that was kind oflike wow, you know, because
there were people on the ground,they got I think one person on
the ground that got killed aswell, everybody on the
helicopter was killed.
And then you know, every timeyou turn around you know planes
are bumping to each other.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I know Everyone's deplaning yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's like I still believe in flying, but I don't
lie to you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It makes you a little nervous though, oh my gosh, I
flew back and forth to Seattle,which luckily is only like a
two-hour flight, but I left thenext day after the DC thing.
So I flew next morning at 6amand like the vibe was so somber,
it was just we were walking onthe plane and, like I'll tell
you, I like I feel like pilotsare such heroes to me and I feel
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like they did such a good job.
They told like a little dadjoke about dad's liking plain
bagels and so it.
It was like you could tellthese are humans too and they're
probably shaken up and they'reupset and everything, but they
did everything in their power tomake us feel safe.
And then the Philly thinghappened, and then I had to have
a plane ride home like the nextday, and it was just I was
really trying to just focus onlike the beauty and the fact
(26:50):
that these things are still veryrare and the fact that, like I
don't want to live in fear whichI think a lot of us but being
on a plane is scary for likemyself and a lot of people.
I'm not going to lie.
So when we hear these things,it's just natural to feel even
more like apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's true, that's true.
I literally just saw thisreport on the news and I don't
remember where it was at, but,um, there was a plane that was
flying I don't want to say thewrong airline, but people were
looking out the window and lookslike one of the engines had a
little fire on there.
Now, being that, you know, thiscrash just happened.
(27:28):
Yeah, you can just imaginewhat's going through their minds
as they watch fire come from awing outside oh my gosh, I would
.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
My anxiety would be, I would be like on the on the
plane jumping off and it's like,wow, not a good timing no, and
I think like all because I'm Iused to be a very, very, very
anxious flyer, I really feellike I've conquered a lot of my
anxiety.
I would really cry on a plane.
I would have to go to like thein the airports.
I would go to like the prayerroom and like bawl my eyes out,
(27:56):
and it used to be a very likephysically painful experience.
But then I just but people wouldalways say to me like oh, you
have a work more of a chance ofgetting into a car accident, or
like being killed by a shark.
I'm like, but those thingsdon't feel scary.
Like you know, I'm not scaredthe whole time in my car, I'm
scared the whole time in theplane and it's like I feel like
it's such a natural feeling tobe driving for most of us, but
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it's like not natural to go upin the sky and like be in a tube
and give up all your control tosomeone else, like navigating.
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
I think it's the control,because in a car you have full
control.
Yes, even though you may notcontrol what's going on outside
of your vehicle, you do controlyour vehicle.
Yeah, in that plane you prettymuch have to trust those two
people in the cockpit.
And oh, there was a story thisis kind of getting a little bit
(28:48):
off base, but there was a storyof this pilot that was arrested
because he showed up to workdrunk.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just saw that and it's like dude, I feel like he
should get double arrestedduring this month.
It's like if you're doing thatnow, like with all of us scared,
you should get like, whateverthe next penalty would be.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm like, dude, you picked now this time to do this,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm like just stay home and drink
whatever you need to, but yeah,yeah, that's, it's terrifying
and but I mean, like I thinkthis was uh, the american crash
was like the biggest commercialone since it was 2009 or 2006 or
it's been a.
It's been a long time, rightlike yeah, that's true it has
been.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
But, like I said, we we send our, our prayers and and
um and thoughts out to thosefamilies and hopefully we get to
the bottom what happens andprevent it from happening again
yeah, yep, and that's the thingthat too, sometimes with crashes
in the past, that has beenhelpful, where it's like every
tragic event then hopefullyleads us forward with like some
(29:46):
safety mechanism.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
However, I still feel like I'm not scared of flying,
but but boeings I'm getting lessand less because, like when I
was looking up the records ofthe stuff and I'm just like, oh
my God, it seems like notsomething like what happened on
this situation, cause that waslike totally unpredictable and
unplannable, but like Boeing's,every single thing it's like, oh
, the wheel just like popped offor the door blew open, so crazy
(30:10):
.
Okay, well, this is.
I did not plan this to be thenext thing, but now we're going
to go into like a silly airlinething.
So we're still thinking of ourvery heavy thoughts about the
tragedy, but now justlighthearted news for a palate
(30:30):
cleanser which you could justimagine everyone laughing saying
like spirit airlines, this cardkind of already like the
walmart of the the airlines, youknow.
So, if you, I have been onspirit airlines a few times and
like the dress, no one iswalking a catwalk there.
It's very much like giving dmvoutfit vibes, um, but obviously
(30:51):
people have been abusing maybesome of the relaxed nature.
So now people are saying thatthe new dress code, you're not
wearing see-through clothing,which the fact that they even
have to say that is ridiculous.
You can't.
You have to basically coveryour buttocks, your breasts and
your private parts.
So the fact that people werebearing everything on spare
(31:12):
airlines is already ridiculous.
After this, like very sadsituation, I decided I don't
think I'm going to fly Spiritanymore, not because they're
unsafe, but because if I was oneof the people to go through a
sad thing, I just couldn't haveall my friends and family know
that I was flying Spirit.
My legacy that would be just so.
(31:34):
I don't know, it's just not theway I want to Go out.
But have you ever flown aSpirit flight?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
One time and never again.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, and it's like you can feel the plane going.
They do have great deals, but Ithink it's good if you don't
need to pack Anything else andif you could just like.
Yeah, if you're just ready togo to Las Vegas With like a
backpack, it's the Thing for you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean the two things about Spirit is one they nickel
and dime you for everything.
I'm surprised they don't chargeyou for breathing.
I mean they literally nickeland dime you for everything.
And then when I was on theSpirit maybe because I'm a
taller guy or whatever, but myknees and the back of the chair
was like this oh, yeah, yeah.
And this is with his seat,straight up.
(32:19):
It wasn't even leaning back yeahso I'm like no, I'm never doing
this again.
And then, plus, like you said,if you take more, more than one
bag, you're charged for that bag.
You know you're.
They literally charge for everylittle thing.
That's like, yes, with all thelittle fees and stuff, you might
as well get on another airlineyou, I had to throw one of my, I
(32:39):
think, when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I flew it.
I like ran out of money on myvacation and then I had to book
one from New York to Miami forlike $18.
And then I just I had no moneyand they were like, well, you
could either pay like $89 or youcould just get rid of your bag
with a few t-shirts, and so Ilike lost a few items of
clothing.
Now, what is your typical uh,like airport wear?
(33:02):
Are you someone that wearssweatpants, or do you wear?
Do you try to dress up, or likesomewhere in the middle?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know what I wear?
Jeans, jeans, maybe a shirt ort-shirt, something like that
because I want to be comfortable.
And then Because I want to becomfortable, and then, of course
, I want to be able to get inand out of my pockets quickly
Because, you know, when you'regoing through security you got
to take everything out and thenput everything back.
So I just try and be as quickas possible, you know, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
How about you?
Honestly, it's so funny.
I feel like one of the manynon-anxiety tips that for me
that it helped me to like Idon't dress in like a business
woman, but I definitely dress upa little bit because I think
sometimes if I was going in likesweatpants or just kind of
clothing where I didn't feelcomfortable or like confident in
, it was almost making me feellike I had the flu or you know,
(33:47):
like it was making me almostfeel too sleepy and too whatever
.
But I felt like something thathelps my anxiety is I get
dressed up like nicely and do myhair just so I feel like I'm
almost like I'm busy on my day.
I'm like, oh, a flight is justlike a normal thing on my day.
I'm not like dressing like I'mhome watching the Price is Right
or anything.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh no, I could definitely understand that.
I mean, I can say I tip my headoff to people to fly spirit.
I just won't do it again.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
These dress codes are so funny that they have to say
like please don't wearsee-through clothes on your $20
flight to Idaho.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Don't you think it's kind of sad that they even have
to say that though?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, but it definitely I mean the people
that I saw that were.
I mean, I was amongst them butlike the New York to Miami crew,
people were wearing theweirdest.
Everyone had just lost theirminds.
It was not a great bunch of.
I was part of it.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It sounded like a very memorable flight.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It was.
I didn't know too.
It was my first time flying inan Airbus and I didn't know the
hydraulics.
It makes different sounds thannormal planes that I was used to
, all these kind of things.
I was like, oh my God, we'regoing down.
They're like no, no, no, thisis just like what Spirit sounds
like Alrighty, now Sounds likepoverty.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So yes, Well, hey, like I said, there's a customer
that would love.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Spirit and very high safety rating, so not a lot of
bad marks on their safety record.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I mean, I will give them this.
If you don't have very muchmoney and you need to fly, it is
an option.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Definitely, but yeah, now fly.
Have you booked any flightslike after this whole thing has
happened or not?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
not yet, but I will have to soon, so luckily it's
not right away.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So I think, I think you'll, I know you'll be fine,
yeah just let things kind ofsimmer down a little bit.
I know that's how I feel, justlike give it a few weeks or
something.
But yeah, definitely tragic andsad.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, talk about sad and safety.
Yeah, this goes back to what wetalked about a few times about
people with animals.
In China, a mermaid swimmerthis is a person that dresses up
like a mermaid, you know, jumpsinto the little man-made pond
or tank or whatever that theyhave.
They're swinging with differenttypes of fish, sometimes sharks
(36:23):
or whatever.
This swimmer, she was attackedby a large fish in there that
basically put its whole head,its whole mouth, on top of her
head.
Luckily she wasn't really hurtor anything, but it kind of was
like yeah, see, that's what youget.
I mean, I don't know.
I just still have a certainfeeling about Miss Wild Animals.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Personally, I don't know what about you?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You think you could do that?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Meryl is like hey, Meryl, we're going to hire you.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You got to swim with this fish with this mermaid suit
on.
It's a big, giant fish thatlooks like a shark, but he's.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, don't worry about it that's what I was gonna
say is I want people to knowthat haven't seen the video.
When we say fish, we don't meanlike a little trout or a
flounder or something.
We.
When I saw the video I trulythought it was a shark, like it
really looks it does look like ashark, doesn't it?
yeah, and and they can hurt.
I I don't know if it had anylike teeth, like things or you
know sharp edges, but I saw thatvideo and that really looked
(37:19):
like it hurt and it could havelike knocked her out or it
really could have almost likesnapped her neck or you know the
way that or like I don't know,fish get the wrong.
Just if he did that, hewhatever the shark's gender was,
if it did that and then likeslapped her with its tail, like
people really could get knockedout and then if there's no one
there to help you, like it couldbecome a very serious thing.
So no, I'm very, very like Ilove animals so much but I'm at
(37:43):
a distance with them, likehorses.
I just I love from afar and I'mvery, very cautious, even like
dogs lately I won't really go upunless I totally know that the
dog is really friendly or if itcomes up to me first.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Like I said, I still have a phobia.
I'll watch you.
Would I get in there with them?
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I think what's going to happen is there's going to
soon be real people swimmingwith AI fish.
Next month they're going toswap out the fish for some AI.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, the sad part is , somebody's probably already
working on that too.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah.
But I saw that and I was like,oh my gosh.
I hope that person is A okayand B is able to.
If she loves doing her job, Ihope she's not too afraid to go
back and do it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, she's probably had close encounters
before and probably did get backin there and, like I said,
there's a lot of enthusiaststhat love going out, messing
with wild animals and stuff andbeing friends with them and all
this hugging up.
It's almost like what you seeonline, where you see these
people hugging these big tigersand oh yeah, lions, and like,
(39:00):
yeah, okay, make sure you haveyour affairs in order.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Just in case you know exactly my uh, we were just
with family all together, and myboyfriend's brother was the
only one of like nine of us andhis dream is to go swimming with
sharks.
And it's so funny because, likeno one else in the family wants
to cage dive or, like you know,you go on these four-day
expeditions and in the middle ofthe third day that you go down
to the ocean and it's like nope,sorry, like I have no, I have
(39:24):
no like desire whatsoever tolike be on the ocean for that
long or go in a tank with sharkseating me so you wouldn't, you
wouldn't get in the tank withthem.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
No, I'll, I'll be at a Marriott Eating chicken wings
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I think I'm missing a lot of the adrenaline stuff
that people have, because Idon't need to be dunked in water
With a shark on me or anything.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I want luxury.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I don't need any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'll take the.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Spirit flight to the Caribbean Islands.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Here at the hotel I got you babe.
I'm cheering you on, go for it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, I don't know if you've seen before too.
It's either Bahamas or Bermuda,but there's this island that
you can go swimming with feralpigs.
I think it's the Bahamas, whereyou can go in the ocean and
there's many, many pigs.
But then I've heard lately toothat pigs will take a little
bite of people's ankles or theremight be diseases and as much
as like being with little pigssounds fun to me.
(40:17):
I'm too like neurotic andanxious about that kind of stuff
.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I may sound very ill-informed by asking this
question, but what are pigsdoing in the water in the first
place?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I know, I know when we get, when we, when we log off
of this too.
I'll send you the video.
But it says a lot ofinfluencers do it that it's
these pigs that just go swimmingin this crystal blue water and
everyone wants to get picturesof them with selfies with 800
pigs.
But now they're starting todisease creeps in and bacteria
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, being that, pigs will swim in anything and
eat anything.
Yeah, I can kind of see thathappening.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
And if they're taking care of their business In the
water with you.
Yeah, that's not good, but hey,they got that photo though,
right.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yep, that's all that matters oh that was a good one.
That was a good one.
Okay, let's see.
Oh, good okay something elsethat I don't want to do Is get
(41:32):
arrested for cyber farting,which this is my first time I've
sentenced to 15 rehab sessionsand 60 days of alcohol
abstinence.
So pretty much she was likesending video after video of her
I hate to even say farting, butlike tooting and just basically
harassing harassing but like somany puns.
(41:55):
But yeah, it was pretty prettyweird.
And so she was like sending amillion videos of herself and I
could just imagine if, like that, was my boyfriend's ex sending
it to me, I'd be like oh yeah,keep sending it, because he's
gonna want, he's not gonna wantyou anymore.
Like you know, that's gonnamake the competition is not
gonna be very high after you'resending this yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I would say that she must still want him to be here.
Yeah, but what?
A weird way to do that.
It's a very sick weird way todo that.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
In the video she positioned the camera to capture
herself passing wind whilelooking at the camera.
It's kind of funny if you do itonce.
It's a little ridiculous if youdo it as a screw you to someone
.
But she sent it over and over,yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I think she's got some issues there.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, I do too.
Imagine being in the courtroomfor this and being the judge.
You have serious cases and thennow you have that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh yeah, judge Robert would look like.
Are you serious this?
Is my jacket for the day.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Now, I know you're a happily married man, but you
don't have any exes that wouldcome into the fold and do this,
do you?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
No.
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And I don't know.
To me there's some things goingon that why would you think
this is okay in the first place?
Yeah, Out of all the things todo.
Yeah, you picked that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Exactly.
It's almost like what do theycall it when the young kids and
this is so funny, this is likeI'm like what like crashing out
is that term now Like when theyyou just kind of lose your mind
and go crazy.
I feel like this is definitelylike a very flatulent version of
crashing out.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I feel like this is definitely a very
flatulent version of CrashingOut.
Yeah, I would have loved tohave seen the judge, though,
when they saw that come acrosstheir caseload.
Yeah, what the.
Yeah, if I was that girl.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I mean, not only did you kind of win, but the new
girlfriend, but like now you getto put that person in jail for
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
If I were to meet a person like that and knew that
passed, yeah, there wouldn't beno relationship.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, that's disgusting, and the fact too,
that you can't really seesomeone farting.
So it just has to be you tohear it and believe it.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
It's disgusting, very , very disgusting.
But we're going to switch thisup to a very, very big topic.
There is a woman Her name isTawana Looney Hopefully I
pronounced her name correctlybut she right now is the longest
living patient that hasreceived a pig kidney.
(44:30):
So she was in a situation whereshe needs a kidney really bad
and she couldn't be on the donorlist any longer because time
was basically running out.
And because of that situation,they came up with an alternative
for her where they offered herthe opportunity of getting a pig
(44:54):
kidney.
Well, obviously she jumped atit because she had no other
options.
Without that kidney shewouldn't be around any longer.
So everything went well, thesurgery went great.
She still has to do a lot ofcheck-ins and stuff like this to
monitor and make sureeverything's going well.
That was actually a feel-good.
(45:15):
I actually like stuff like thisbecause there's so many people
who unfortunately die whilewaiting for a transplant,
waiting for organs, and this isa good way to um, kind of
supplement that to kind of helppeople out, especially, you know
, running out of time, I don'tknow what do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I mean I think that's amazing, the fact that our
medical system there's's so manygenius, brilliant people in it
the fact that someone could evenlike do those experimental
surgeries in the first place toeven realize that someone did
that you know that it works andlike I wouldn't even know how
someone would like think of thatand then also do the procedures
to like see if it would workout or not.
(45:53):
It's just like people are sobrilliant.
So that makes me really happyand I'm hoping it's not one of
the pigs that were swimming inthe Bahamas with the influencers
.
But I mean this could open uplike a whole new thing.
If it, I mean if this reallyworks like that could be a total
game changer.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Oh yeah, I mean my doing the kidneys, you know,
maybe the heart, maybe othervital organs, and, like I say,
it's a game changer as far asbeing able to extend people's
life and as far as rejection Idon't know the statistics on
that, but again, I think itgives us new hope and gives us a
lot of options to, you know,living, not only living a longer
(46:33):
life, but living a more qualitylife too.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Because you know, living and living in pain is not
really living.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so to be able to live ahealthy life, and okay, maybe
there's some adjustments thatyou had to make, but it's better
than the alternative, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yep, you know how they have like pacemakers for
hard disease.
I really feel like it's only amatter of time before they're
able to almost come up with likethe Beyond Burger version of
like all of our organs.
I'm sure they absolutely havelike pretend gallbladders and
stuff right now, but I feel likewe're just close to having it
be like a seamless thing whereit's like, oh, someone could
(47:13):
have like a you know anintestine made out of whatever
else, but then like it workslike flawlessly fine.
I think that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I agree.
Like I said, I love storieslike this and I'm looking
forward to more of them.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, and wait, how old did you say she was?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
You know what?
They didn't mention her age.
But looking at her I would haveto say she's probably, I would
say maybe, in her maybe late 40s, around 50 maybe and again I'm
just guessing because theydidn't say what her age was.
I'm quite sure I could look itup and find out.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh yeah, no, but she's good.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Okay, the good stuff.
Now we're going to get intosome Grammy talk.
I tried to.
We won't do this for the nexthour, but I easily could talk
about the Grammys with you foran hour.
But last night was the 67thannual Grammy Awards and hosted
by Trevor Noah, which I feellike of all the things I've
heard about.
I haven't heard a lot of TrevorNoah talk, but he's such a
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regular.
I think this was his fifth timedoing it, so at this point he's,
you know he's good, he's, he'sgreased in, he's doing awesome,
and so some of the people, thepeople's choices like of you
know things to discuss werealbum of the year Beyonce, which
we'll get back to talking abouther, which made her, I think,
the first Black woman to receivethe honor, I think.
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So.
Record of the song of the yearKendrick Lamar Not Like Us, I'm
just.
We'll obviously talk about allthese, but just wanted to kind
of give a little overview.
Best new artist Chapel Roan.
Best pop vocal album SerenaCarpenter.
And best rap album Dochi, who Ilove so much.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
So I wanted to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
You go first.
Tell me everything you think.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You know what I thought?
It was actually really good.
There were some surprises.
One big surprise and I don'tknow if people noticed it or not
, but Will Smith was there- hewas.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I saw his kids.
One of them had like a house ontheir face.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
But yeah, not only was he there, but he was a.
You know he was a present well,not really a presenter, but you
know he gave a speech on um.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
He did quincy jones yeah oh my gosh, I didn't.
That's so funny because itdidn't.
I didn't really watch the wholething.
I watched like a lot of thehighlights, okay, yeah you know
they did a tribute to quincy j.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
you know he was talking about him and you know
kind of give him his props.
And you know Quincy Jones, fromthe acting side, discovered
Will Smith.
Really he did the Fresh Princeof Bel-Air.
That was Quincy Jones' project.
I did not know that he was aproducer on that.
So you know, really Will Smithowes a lot to that man, you know
(49:56):
, and actually he's an almamater of the college.
My son goes to Berklee Collegeof Music.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh my, which is like one of the best colleges in
music that there is.
That's such a, that's such likean honor to even go there.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I think the performances were
really good.
Um the you know the dressesthis year, I have to admit they
were really nice.
Yeah, they were.
They were elegant at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean yes, I thought so many
people look beautiful.
I thought like olivia rodrigolooked absolutely stunning and
people like classed it up and noone would.
And I feel like people likedoji looked awesome and was
creative, but they weren't liketasteless, like she still looks
so classy exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And you know, everybody still showed their
style, but they did it in a veryelegant way, absolutely.
I I tip my hat off to that.
I mean it was really nice,people had men and women, they
look, everyone looked fabulous,really did.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I got emotional when I saw Xochitl's, her speech, her
acceptance speech, just aboutlike, which I think is such a
great message of, just likeanyone that's watching this,
believe in yourself and I thinkyou know you could accomplish
things.
And I just I don't know, I loveher so much.
That was like I know she'salready been around and really
popular for a while, but to melike that performance was almost
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like watching like a star isborn kind of thing.
You know, when someone I love,sabrina Carpenter, I have to say
I am not.
I am not a Chapel Rhone fan atall.
I may, I don't think, which is,I'm sure, like she's, I don't,
you know, she's a human, so I'msure she's fine, but like I
rarely say I hate things, when Imay have said that last night,
which I felt bad to use the Hword, but she's not my cup of
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tea, let's just say that.
But people like her, that'sfine.
And I thought Beyonce seemedextremely surprised to win, like
she really actually seemedsurprised.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I think so, I really do.
You know I don't like the worstenough, but you know they say
that.
You know she actually has beennominated more than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
You know it's questionable.
She probably should have gother flowers A lot earlier.
But I like the fact that shestayed classy.
She didn't talk about it, shejust kept doing her thing until
it was her time, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she stayed very classy.
The funny thing is I don't knowif this was intentional or not,
but I think some of her likebra underwires might have been
coming out, which is the mostrelatable female thing, and,
like a lot of my friends wereposting like this is amazing.
This happens to me all the timewhen, like a lot of the times,
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you'll get like poked in theface with a piece of my bra.
So if that's happening toBeyonce, then like all of us
could feel a little better Now.
Ok, how do you feel?
I know this is controversial,but sometimes Taylor Swift being
up and dancing for likeabsolutely everyone is a little
like pick me, I think.
I do think she's excited forthe music and she's, but like
it's a little bit kind of likelook at me, I find it.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
You know what little bit kind of like look at me, I
find it, you know what.
I kind of look at itdifferently.
I look at it as you know.
She's one of the biggest starson the planet.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And I think she's at a point in her career where it's
like I don't give a F, I'mgoing to have fun, I'm going to
enjoy this ride and I'm going tohave a great time.
And I tip my hat off to herbecause she's like hey, I don't
have to follow trends, I createthem, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's good, okay, good.
Once again.
I think it's like the differentof the, because it's so funny
seeing a video of her dancingand then like truly, 50% of the
comments will be like what agreat girl supporting everyone.
Out of the comments will belike what a great girl
supporting everyone.
Then 50 will be like god, whyis?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
everything she makes everything about herself.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
So I think it's a little bit of both, where I do
think she's very like, almostlike a little kid, very excited,
but to me it's like you she isthe biggest star and so she
knows like half of everything isgoing to be people looking at
her dancing and sometimes I'mjust like, please let the other
person have like a like theirtotal moment without you being
like in the middle of everything.
So I get it.
It could be worse it could belike sitting there with an
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attitude which would be evenworse, you know yeah, and you
know what I?
Speaker 1 (54:03):
I get what your point is because, because she's one
of the biggest stars on theplanet right now that everything
she does is going to be watched.
So it's like sometimes you canunintentionally take away from
someone else's moment.
Yeah, yep, yep, I think so it'salmost like when you go to a
wedding and you got someone thatkind of is wearing something
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similar to a wedding gown andthey're not in the wedding.
You know, you kind of take ityeah.
It could kind of be looked atlike that by some people you
know Totally.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's so funny too.
Luckily that doesn't happen aton for me, but at comedy shows
you can just imagine peoplefreaking out when it's not about
them and then they're like andthen what?
And I'm like shut up.
But I mean, if someone wasstanding up for my set the whole
time, the way that Taylor went,I'd be like, okay, that's very
nice, but sit down, it's good.
(54:55):
I think we're all.
This is what I mean.
It's like if I didn't, we'reall chronically online to the
point where I'm getting upsetabout like Chapel Road and like
Taylor Swift's standing.
So this is all.
When I feel this way, it's justa sign to like go hike in the
woods and get a life, like Isaid, you know it's all in good
fun.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
I want to ask you a question Getting back to Will
Smith Technically, yeah, nowtechnically, he was banned for
10 years.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Obviously hasn't been 10 years, right?
How do you feel about seeinghim, uh, at the grammys?
Um, in his speech did hereference anything that happened
at all?
oh, absolutely not no, okay,okay, uh.
I I feel like it's fine.
I think maybe he should havehad some like in his speech,
like either, maybe not a joke,but like some type of some
sentence, of some sentiment oflike thank you for like a.
(55:40):
You know, I've reflected andthank you for like letting me be
part of this great night again.
I think that would have beenlike a classy thing to do.
I understand maybe he justwants to move past it and not
not acknowledge it, but, um, Idon't know, like I don't really
know, because I'm not upset withhim being back, but I think it
would have been nice to hearSome type of acknowledgement
from him.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, well, actually I take that back.
That's the Grammys.
He was banned from the Emmys, Ithink, not from the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Oh, really, oh wait, because Chris Rock was hosting
the.
Oh, maybe it was the Emmys, Iforget.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Either it was the Emmys or the Oscars.
One of the two, oh, it was theOscars.
It was the Oscars.
That's why, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
We won't see him at the Oscars, but we will see him
at the Grammys.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Okay, but you know what I mean.
Everyone deserves a secondchance, yeah.
People got to realize we all dostupid stuff, gotta realize we
all do stupid stuff.
You know, maybe, maybe not onthat magnitude, but I'll do
stupid stuff.
Yeah, you know, the intent wasthere.
Um, what he was trying to do,it was the wrong way to do it,
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you know?
Speaker 2 (56:46):
yes, totally, and I feel like we we never, I'm sure,
like we talked about before,when that actually happened,
like I met him and jada, like wedon't know all the things, all
the little triggers that werehappening that were like that
was the final straw, you know,which is never a good, that's
not a reason to ever hurtsomeone, but still a little
crazy.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
You know, during during the the dedication, the
Quincy Jones.
I listened to a lot of QuincyJones music cause he's made a
lot of music over the years andhe's got some great stuff.
I was a little surprised thatthey didn't play some of his
other songs, because Quincy dida lot of producing in the
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background.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Michael Jackson, a bunch ofother artists and stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
I was really surprised that they didn't have
other music for him.
Me too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, I definitely think they should have had even
more medleys with, like, maybesome of those people coming out
too.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Mm-hmm, but, like I said, no one can take away from
the Q, as they say yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
And overall I thought it was pretty good.
Like I know a lot of peoplefelt like Billie Eilish kind of
got snubbed.
Oh, pretty good.
Like I know a lot of peoplefelt like billy eilish kind of
got snubbed.
I can't imagine if I was hertoo when you're so young and you
like for for many years she'sbeen winning so many things and
almost like I felt like that thewhole the song that she did for
barbie, like I thought that wasgood.
But it was almost getting liketo me like okay, like I don't
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know, the accolades are like alittle off the charts.
So now I'm sure it probablyfeels a little confusing to like
have a uh award show and nottake home anything, but I mean
that's just what it is.
So I mean like hopefully thesepeople know that they're, you
know, so successful in differentways they don't need a grammy
another one.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Do you think that, um , as far as the people who won,
do you think, uh, the rightpeople won?
Speaker 2 (58:33):
yeah, I mean I love, love, love.
I was really happy that, uh,sabrina carpenter, her album won
, because I think that'sactually a really good album,
like I.
When I listened to it I waslike, oh, this is an album that
is like different types of music, it's not just kind of like pop
girl, um, and I thought she hadthe right people on it.
I thought it was like that tome was good.
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Chapel roanan Heck.
No, take her off.
I'm ready for her to go away.
She really bugs the heck out ofme.
So I think a million I wouldhave chosen like anyone else,
but her plush.
She's been in the industry forlike 11 years.
I don't know, she just annoysthe heck out of me.
And I've also heard, yeah, forthe most part, kendrick Not Like
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Us.
I mean that was definitely asong of the year, I think for
many people.
I mean, if you're Drake too andyou just watch people dancing
to that, aren't you like in pain?
That has to be the worstfeeling.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, especially when you know what the song is about
.
I know.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
And just watching like all of the or not a lot,
but most of many importantpeople in music, just watching
them uh dance to like yourdownfall is just so weird yeah,
I, like I said, I don't evenknow how it all started, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
But um, I I know the beef is like because you know
they're talking about that.
That's got something to do withwhy, you know, little Lil Wayne
got snubbed for the Super Bowland all that, oh yeah yeah, how
true it is, I don't know.
But I don't know.
I mean, sometimes these beefscan really get out of control.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yes, oh, and I saw, I love Cynthia Erivo and I know
she was part of the Quincy thingtoo.
I just think she is like sotalented and I've seen her, I
love her on the red carpet.
She just seems like verygracious.
I know people were laughing atsome of her being ridiculous
about like the wicked you knowhow she would act in the press
interviews, but to me she seemslike very poised and extremely
(01:00:24):
nice to anyone that comes up toher.
And I think she's like sounbelievably talented.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I agree, I agree, I like I said, overall I think it
was a great, great show.
Yeah, me too.
It was very cool.
So, yeah, I like it.
The one thing that was not sogood, now I'm quite sure, no
matter what your age, you knowwho Babyface is.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yes, oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And there was this group of women I don't even know
who they are, to be honest withyou, because there's so many
different people interviewingand they got Babyface to come
over and do an interview.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And there was somebody else walking by, and
they were like, oh my God, oh myGod, it was Chapel Rowan.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
It was Chapel Rowan, and you know Babyface got pissed
off, gave him the mic andwalked away, and it's like.
You know you have to be smartabout what you do.
You know this guy is a multiGrammy winning artist, yes, and
he's been doing this a long time, yeah.
And if you know baby face andyou're in the industry, okay,
nine times out of 10, if you'rereally hitting, at one point
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you've even met him or work withhim Okay.
So to get him to stop and talkto you is a big deal To do.
That to me.
I thought it was verydisrespectful.
I mean, it got to the pointthey got so much backlash that
they actually went on the airand apologized to him.
I think I don't know.
I mean, granted, we're smallpeas in a pod compared to them
(01:01:51):
being on the red carpet, buteven me new, not knowing
everything, even I would not dothat, whether it be baby face or
whoever.
If some big star gave me theopportunity to interview them,
I'm not going to slap them inthe face by oh, they're going to
saw something.
You don't do that.
You know.
That's right.
I don't know.
(01:02:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Oh my gosh, this is is like I'm so into this.
I just I talked about this witha friend.
This was our whole lunchconversation and basically you
know like obviously I'm in thecrazy land of Los Angeles, so it
happens a lot where you're likeat a party talking to someone
and then someone with eitherwho's like more popular in the
moment or someone with cloutlike comes in and what you don't
do is exactly what that persondid, which is like drop the
(01:02:33):
person that you're talking toand immediately go slobber on
the new person.
And I feel like the tactful,classy way is to almost like
call that new person over and belike please tell me that you
and Babyface know each other.
Or like, oh my gosh, I wouldlove to see a collab and like
there you have two artists whichnow we get to see like two
amazing people talking, and likeyou know, you may have just
(01:02:54):
sparked, like them talking, andthen you can easily, if you're
baby face, you've done enoughinterviews.
Right now you kind of know, okay, it's your time to transition
out and that's like the tactfulway to do things.
I just thought this, this showslike poor journalism, but I
also have some a little bit ofunderstanding where I think
sometimes in these high pressurethings, a lot of like the
lights and the cameras andeverything just gets to us and I
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feel like I would also chalk itup to just excitement and I
feel like we've probably allunknowingly been at a party and
like been a little bit likethere's my friend and, like you
know, made someone else feel alittle bit bad.
So I think that person like Idon't think she should be
dragged to hell.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
No-transcript they have to understand is there are
other celebrities watching this,and there may be some
celebrities that I'd be like.
No, I remember.
I remember what they did at thebaby face.
No, I ain't going to talk tothem.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Exactly, and there's that saying like, act like
you've been there before, and Ifeel like that journalist did
not act like she was therebefore you know, and so, if
anything you could almost saylike you know, you wrap it up
with him and then you're likeokay, out of the corner of my
eye I see Chapel Roan.
Have you heard of her, have you?
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
like almost transitioned them into one
another.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
But I also like I can't say I would do this
perfectly.
I think I would flub a lot ofthings.
So I understand, like making amistake, but I think that's also
so funny that now we getfeedback in real time where she
had to apologize like as she wasdoing the interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, yeah, she got very immediate feedback from
that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, but I mean that's just how it is too.
The industry is really toughand Chapel Rhone who she was
like slobbering all over now, ina few years Chapel's going to
be old news and you know, like alot of the people that were
like Babyface was once like thefresh and upcoming person that
probably got a lot of theattention, and now it's sad that
we just kind of like usher somepeople out and, you know, only
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pay attention to the select few.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That's true.
That's true.
Just, she just had tounderstand that, though he may
not be the front person rightnow, he's still got a lot of
power behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I know, I know and I feel like some of these things
are just so much about likewho's hot in that moment and
then, like next year, they'llkind of not be hot anymore, you
know that is so, so, true, so sotrue.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Wow, what a great, great show.
Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I wish our show was like nine hours long.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
You know it could be and you know the sad part about
it is or funny, depending on howyou look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
This is a perfect example, that we will never,
ever run out of stuff to talkabout.
Yeah, yeah in fact, it was hardfor me to put my list together
what to talk about, because itwas so much stuff really, yeah
and I love, and the thing aboutus like our show too is we
welcome different viewpoints,like in a respectful way, like
if people see things differently.
If, like someone feels liketaylor swift standing up is like
the cutest thing they've everseen, I want to hear it.
(01:06:18):
You know, like I love.
I love that kind of stuffbecause I feel like there is so
much news going on that we'reall trying to like synthesize in
our brains what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
So I love that yeah, and this is like a side a side,
a side thing here.
But you know, when they weretalking about taylor swift, they
zoomed in on her leg and Iguess she had like a piece in
the T which was OK.
That was kind of cool.
But I don't know, that kind ofwas borderline creepy to me,
like dude, why are you zoomingin on her leg?
Or is it just me?
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I think everyone's, especially with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I mean, I know the team might be for her or for
Taylor, but like of courseeveryone wants to be for her or
for taylor, but like of courseeveryone wants to be for travis.
So no, I think, I think shewants it.
Oh my god, we didn't even talkabout, uh, kanye's wife or
girlfriend, bianca.
You know what, you know what we, we should be over, but we got
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
We got.
Yeah, we have to talk aboutthat.
Oh my god, she would not beable to fly on Spirit Airlines.
I'm sorry, bianca, we got tocover it up.
I mean, her body is out ofcontrol.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Do me a favor, just so people know.
Explain to them what we'retalking about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Okay.
So Kanye showed up with I don'tknow if it's his wife, I think
it's his wife, bianca, and shewas wearing a completely,
completely see-through dress.
It's almost like it's just asheer dress, and then you can
see everything, like atliterally naked nipples, you
know, buttocks, front lips,everything.
Everything is happening.
And so she started by being onthe red carpet with her, just
(01:07:46):
her tushy showing, and theneveryone is like oh my god, oh
my god.
And then she turned around andshe was literally like nude.
And so a lot of people are likethis is what kanye does to his
people.
They, you know, he makes themwear this kind of stuff and it's
a little bit like I think hethinks it's artsy, but instead
women wear this.
You know, kim k was dressed alittle bit like how kanye wanted
(01:08:08):
it to be when they were in arelationship.
But I'd like to think thatbianca has agency, hopefully,
over like what she's wearing.
But I mean, to me everyone'sbody is beautiful, but her body
really is like a work of art.
I'm not grossed out by it, Ithink it's beautiful, but I just
have to imagine sitting therethe whole night.
Aren't you a little cold?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I mean, you know what .
To each his own in everyrelationship.
I don't think that was the timeor the place to do that Really.
Yeah, to me personally.
I would not want a wife,girlfriend or anyone who's with
me to look like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
To me that's disrespectful.
I really am.
I have nothing wrong with awoman dressing sexy or whatever.
Up until that I would say, Idon't care what a woman dressing
sexy or whatever.
And you know, up until that Iwould say I don't care what a
woman wears, it's up to her.
That's probably the exceptionto the rule.
No, you're not going to bewearing that.
I mean, you might as well justtake everything off, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
But I'm like okay, kanye, then you have to do that.
Now you have to wear like asheer, like if you're going to
have her next to you, like youneed to be naked.
I think it would be amazing ina different story if someone
like her showed up completely ontheir own and it's like her own
journey.
But it's the fact that it'sattached to him too.
I think sometimes people arelike you know, when Kim was
dating him or married to him, Ifeel like her style was totally
(01:09:28):
like what he wanted it to be,and so oh yeah, and you know the
thing is, you could be abeautiful woman without showing
everything.
You don't have to do that.
Yeah, and I think some peopleare going to say that he did
that because he wants attention,you know, yeah, yeah, yep, but
I mean like kudos to her, for ifyou're gonna do it, she pulled
(01:09:49):
it off in terms of how it lookedand like I actually don't think
I don't know if it's her figure, what happened, but to me, like
when she was actually up thereon her, I actually don't think I
don't know if it's her figure,what happened, but to me, like
when she was actually up thereon her own, I don't think she
looked like not classy at all.
I actually thought she lookedlike a beautiful, like a model
painting or you know somethingthat someone would draw or
something.
So when I actually saw her, Ididn't think it looked like
gross, I thought she looked verypretty and beautiful.
(01:10:11):
So, yeah, and like, like I said.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I remember he came to one awards event and he had a
mask on and Kanye likes to take.
Oh, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, with the pantyhose and stuff.
I remember that's how Kim K wasdressing too, with the
ridiculous spandex over her face.
It's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Well, he accomplished what he wanted.
He wanted to get some attention, so he got that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Honestly, I like her outfit better than what Chapel
Rhone wore.
With the big that she almostlooked like an organized group.
That I don't like as a Jewishperson.
But she was wearing a bigwizard hat.
She looked ridiculous and Ihate that makeup.
I know lots of people like itand I may get some flack.
But she looked ridiculous and Ihate that makeup.
I know lots of people like itand I may get some flack but to
(01:10:58):
me I'll take a naked person overthat any day.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I hear you on that, Kudos, I guess.
To Kanye for pulling it off, Iguess, yeah, literally pulling
it off.
Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, pulling it all off.
Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Oh wow, that was good .
That was a good way to end itYay Well.
Well, meryl, what do you havecoming up?
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Oh my gosh, if anyone is Watching on Wednesday.
I'm in San Diego Wednesdaynight Doing a comedy show in
Ocean Beach, and then I haveshows All around Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Oh, good, good Name some of the places that you're
going to be at.
Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I will be at a place called the Glendale Room, which
is in Glendale, which is likeright next to Pasadena in Los
Angeles.
I will be at Flappers inBurbank where Jay Leno performs
a lot, which is super cool, andI think that's it for now.
Yeah, that's it for February.
Oh, santa Barbara, santaBarbara too.
I'm at a really cool venue inSanta Barbara called the Red
(01:11:58):
Piano, which is like a piano bar.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Nice, nice.
Yeah, you definitely got a fullschedule.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And I will not be dressing like Bianca.
I'm so sorry everyone.
I will not be dressing likeTaylor Swift dancing.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, meryl, it was definitely a pleasure, you too,
and for everyone, don't forgetto Watch us on ElrodTVnetworkcom
, as well as our New podcastthat we have on All major
podcast Channels, which is Applelet's see Apple, iheartradio,
(01:12:36):
spotify and several others.
So we're on a lot of All themajor ones, so definitely make
sure that you listen to us,subscribe to us and let
everybody know who we are.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I am Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Have a great day, everyone Bye.
Have a great day, everyone bye.
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