Earthquakes, Teslas, and Space: This Week's Wackiest Headlines for 3/26/25

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The world has never been short on bizarre stories, but this week's roundup takes things to a new level of strange. Lawrence and Meryl dive deep into news stories that leave us both concerned and bewildered - from privacy invasions to celestial misadventures.

We unpack the alarming story of Tesla owners having their personal information leaked online, alongside the troubling trend of people setting Teslas ablaze as protest. While we understand the motivations behind protesting Elon Musk's controversial stances, we question whether targeting individual owners crosses an ethical line - especially considering many purchased their vehicles before Musk became so politically divisive.

The conversation takes a cosmic turn as we discuss NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams finally returning to Earth after being stranded in space for nine months. What should have been a routine one-week mission turned into an extended space odyssey thanks to Boeing's problematic Starliner capsule. We contemplate the physical and psychological effects of such an unexpected extension of space travel - from relearning how to walk to adjusting to Earth's food again.

Between analyzing the viral "airport theory" (can you really arrive just 15 minutes before boarding?) and questioning DoorDash's new "buy now, pay later" payment options for food delivery, we also find time to discuss billionaire Ray Dalio's meditation practice and why stillness might be the secret to success in our chaotic world.

The absurdity of human behavior continues with discussions on people who film themselves committing crimes, The Breakfast Club's workplace drama playing out on air, and Sherry Papini's audacity to fight for custody after her kidnapping hoax conviction. Join us for these stories and more as we navigate the bizarre landscape of current events with humor, insight, and just the right amount of disbelief.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I amMeryl Clemo.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey Meryl, how are?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
you doing this week?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing very, very well.
I would classify Like a 7.9.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, hopefully it was pretty boring no earthquakes
, no fires or anything.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Nope, nope.
In fact my dad earlier todaytexted me.
They're in San Diego and hesaid did I just have an
earthquake or am I dizzy?
And I looked up and I'm like,oh no, you just have vertigo.
So always good.
Now I have my parents likeparanoid about stuff living in
California, but nope, we're allgood here.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Good, good, good, good.
Yeah, it was pretty warm.
Now it got cold again, so we'rein the 40s again, so I guess
that's not too bad for.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I know I'm hoping one time.
I hope it won't be too serious,but I hope one time that we're
recording on video that we dohave an earthquake, so you can
be part of it too.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
That would be interesting, but the crazy thing
is that probably could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, exactly, they do seem to happen a lot during
different hours, but, it's funny, earthquakes usually seem to
happen on the weekends.
I feel like it takes a.
It takes the weekend off.
I don't know why, but I don'tknow, what Illuminati manager is
planning that but?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
now you know because you told me that I'm going to be
paying attention to what day ina week earthquakes happen.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Exactly For real.
The most part, honestly on, itseems to be a sunday, but I also
wonder if it's we're justnoticing them on a sunday
because, like, that's the daythat we tend to be home and
relaxing, you know.
So, anywho, I'm excited fortoday we're ready.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, we're gonna start off.
Um, the first topic, uh, isactually a two-part topic, both
dealing with Tesla.
The first part is tells theowners their names and addresses
are being released online.
Yikes, that's scary.

(02:17):
I am really shocked becausewhen I first heard this I'm like
no, this isn't true.
But then it was on the news.
It's all over social media.
I mean, get it.
I truly get it.
You want to protest elon muskfor what he stands for and
everything.
I totally, totally understandthat.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
But putting people's personal information out there,
I think, goes a bit too farexactly and like I mean I guess
these would be people that wouldjust buy directly from tesla,
right, because if someone'sbuying, like like a used Tesla
or off of CarMax or something,something tells me they're not
going to find it.
And also I feel like a lot ofthe people like over the course
of a year, I have friends thatare very anti Elon Musk, that

(02:57):
are still driving Teslas thatjust haven't got around to
selling it.
Or, like I have one friend thatowns his Tesla outright and it
would be so stupid to like getrid of it after you've paid it
off, you know.
But so if his information wasleaked, it's like, yeah, he's
not a an Elon supporter yeah,that's true, and you know the
thing is too.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
When people bought, a lot of people, when they bought
their Teslas, had no idea aboutElon Musk role in exactly so.
I'm pretty sure they know aheadof time, people probably would
have gotten rid of the vehiclesearlier, or maybe not even
bought it to begin with.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So exactly this is where like and I feel like I
could call out all parties atall times and stuff, but like,
that behavior is similar to thebehavior that most people don't
like, elon, for you know, likethe kind of saying that if you
like own something, it must meanlike a big thing against you,
and I don't know that.
Just, it seems like we haveother fish to fry in the world

(03:54):
of other important things.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, and I think too , you know when you start, you
know dealing with privacy issuesand, and you know releasing
people's personal informationthat can open up a hornet's nest
.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and it's like what do you want to do to these
people?
Do you want to, like, shamethem or make their life
difficult?
I just don't understand likethe end goal of that, you know,
like to harass them.
I don't get the point.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh yeah, and the thing is, you open them up for
possible identity theft too, andno one deserves to have their
identity stolen.
I mean, thank god I've neverexperienced it, but from what I
hear about the story, it's anightmare.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's an absolute nightmare to clean that up once
someone's stolen your identityyeah, I really want to get
myself a car like where, if itgets leaked, it's almost like a
kia, where it's like, oh blessher heart, like it.
Kia where it's like, oh, blessher heart.
Where, like, if the user'snames come out, they almost just
feel bad for me instead of, Imean, I like Kia.

(04:53):
Right now I drive a Nissan thatI don't really like a lot at
all.
So if my name ever got leaked Iwould be like mean, this seems
to be like I wonder, do youthink it's an inside job?
Like, do you think elon's, theelon people are doing this in

(05:14):
any way?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I don't think so, and the reason why I say that is is
that, um, there's a a certaindegree, in my personal opinion,
of greed there.
Yeah, I don't think he's goingto do anything that's going to
hurt sales.
Okay, that's true, because withthe sales, uh, for tesla's
going going down since the firstof the year, you know, he's

(05:41):
lost, you know, over a hundredmillion, I'm sorry, over 100
billion dollars in net worthbecause of that.
You know, a lot of his wealthis tied to Tesla.
So I don't think he's going todo that himself just because,
financially, to hurt him, but itjust shows that you know,

(06:01):
either you're a business personor you're politics.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
You can't really do both.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Exactly, and I know this is not the show's opinion,
this is not your opinion, but myopinion is the list of Tesla
original owners and the list ofCybertruck owners might be a
little bit of a different kindof people.
I feel like I would ratherinvite regular Tesla people to a
birthday party of mine thanCybertruck.

(06:26):
No offense if anyone listens tothat, but I have my own
stereotypes, I think, about thetypes of people that drive them.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I mean, I totally understand, because even within
Tesla, the Cybertruck and theTesla vehicle are like nine days
.
That's what I mean.
The Cybertruck and the Teslavehicle are like nine days,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, I feel like the regular car you're going to
get, just someone that listensto NPR and just doesn't want to
pay for gas and everything andthe Cybertruck.
It's like you have to really beflexing around town just to
drive it, or like a certainaesthetic.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Also good for those people.
They don't deserve harassmentin any way.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
If they're being normal, I could judge their car,
but I want them to live a nicelife.
That's true, I mean.
I guess, on the other hand,people who really love EV
vehicles will probably take alook at other manufacturers in
there.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, so they say they want everything built here,
you know.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Hey, that gives other people an opportunity to play
on the field as well, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Exactly For sure.
Speaking of Tesla.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Now, this is the second part of this, which I
totally don't understand.
What is with the settingTesla's on fire?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
What is with that I know so scary and bad.
And also you would think likewith its own, because isn't the
Tesla engine just basically acomputer, right, like it doesn't
really have an engine.
It just seems like a recipe fordisaster with, like, polluting
the air, you know, combustion.
It just seems very scary.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
No, I totally agree.
And then you know.
The other thing too is again,you want to protest more power
to you.
Okay, you want to do a boycott.
More power to you.
You know what I mean?
That's your legal right to dothat.
But to sit back and destroyproperty, I don't think that's
ever the answer.

(08:19):
I don't think that's ever theanswer.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, exactly, I think it's like setting a bad
example.
I wonder what age range peopleare doing that.
If it's like younger, you know,angry teen, like college age
people, or if it's like middleage, just, you know, frustrated
people, I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know what?
That'll be interesting to findout.
Yeah, I don't know either.
That would actually be a beinteresting to find out.
Yeah, I don't know either.
That would actually be a goodone to find out, but something
tells me it's a mix.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Me too, because I almost would feel like, in a
strange way, it would be morepeople like our age.
I can't see a lot of collegekids right being that upset to
burn a Tesla to the ground.
It seems like they're upsetabout other things, not
specifically Teslas.
Upset about other things, notspecifically Tesla's.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I would see them probably doing more of the
protest than the vandalism.
Now there are always exceptionsto the rules, but as a general
rule I don't think youngsterswould do that.
But again, they can prove mewrong too.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Could you imagine when you were in your youth, in
college or a few years after, Iwould never think to set a car
company on fire, unless it wasme accidentally setting my own
Jeep on fire or like anex-boyfriend's Jeep or something
.
Would you ever do that?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know what I wouldn't?
I honestly wouldn't Me neither.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I mean unless a brand would have to stand for
something really terrible for meto like, and if, then I would
probably just stop buying it or,you know, just not be a
consumer anymore yeah, I mean, Ithink the.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
To me, the best way to get revenge on a company is
hit them in the pockets.
Yeah, you know whether that'sprotesting, whether that's suing
them, depending on whathappened, you know, again, not
taking away from protesting,marching and all that, but you
really want to get a company'sattention.
Hit them in the pocketbook.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Exactly, it's almost like that peaceful resistance or
peaceful like ignoring isalmost better, and now, with
like TikTok and everything youcould really like, join in on a
movement and have almost like ano buy day for teslas or you
know all that kind of stuff ohyeah, I mean, I know that.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Uh, when they did the boycott of um, I want to say it
was target and amazon.
I believe it was that onefriday, oh yeah, yeah they lost
a lot of money yeah, a lot ofmoney and, yeah, a lot of money.
And Target is still fightingright now.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Because they still haven't recovered.
So you know the thing is, thepower of the dollar is very
strong.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, and the power of like consumer attention.
I feel like for brands, it'salmost just as bad to like have
no comments on your social mediaor just like ignored.
I think that would you knowbecause they're spending so much
money in advertising.
It's like another way is just tolike turn the conversation
somewhere else that is so, sotrue I don't know if you

(11:15):
remember a few months back, um,on tiktok, they were organizing
these one by one.
They were picking celebritiesand being like we're going to
completely ignore, like kimkardashian on social media, and
it was and it was, so it worked.
It got millions and millions ofpeople and people were like,
okay, this month we're focusingon kim kardashian.
And then it was so funny becausekim would post something and it
would have like 37 comments andthe celebrities were like

(11:38):
spiraling out of control, beinglike hello, is anyone here?
It was really funny and itworked.
Of course it didn't workperfectly, but like it did make
a dent and when you have thatmany people all relaying the
same message, it's like you cando a lot oh yeah, and I'm quite
sure that the celebrities, theireyes kind of rose a little bit
too yeah, absolutely oh, butyeah, I think it's.

(12:02):
It's to have like to becanceling people that drove
Teslas and it's just like that.
Just seems like there's otherbigger issues.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Cool, cool, cool.
Wow.
Was that the second part?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yep, that was the second part.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, cool, okay, mine, oh, this is a fun one.
Mine is another thing that'skind of gone viral a little bit
lately on um, on tiktok, I'veseen it this airport theory and
I say quote, unquote airporttheory, uh, which is pretty much
the theory that it doesn'treally take as long as we think
to get through the airport.

(12:41):
Now, many of us of us, like inmy older age I don't know about
you, but I actually like nowgetting to the airport with
enough time and like energy toget through, get a bottle of
water, sit down, like I can tellthat my frontal lobe has
developed because I used to belike rushing to the gate and,
you know, having to go on aplane immediately.
But over the past couple ofyears now I really like to give

(13:02):
myself time and just like Ithink it's fun to be at the
airport, I like to sit there and, like you know, get my work all
ready to go on the plane.
But a lot of people feeldifferently where they think if
you get to the airport now, ifyou arrive at the airport 15 to
20 minutes before your boardingtime, they think you should be

(13:23):
just fine.
And it's funny because a lot ofpeople are testing this and for
the most part people are like,yes, it actually does not take
that long to go through security.
But every now and then I'll seethese videos of people being
like, well, we missed our flight.
So I guess my first question islike what kind of airport
arriver are you?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I try to get there at least two hours before the
flight.
Yeah me too, and here's thething, the reason why I do it
personally.
Now, of course, when it's aholiday or something where it's
a lot of travel, they suggesttwo hours.
I do two hours no matter what,just because I don't want to be
rushed.
I don't want to have to rush.
Yeah, usually when you rush,you lose stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Exactly Running and stuff yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
And lose stuff.
You know you're exactly runningand stuff and yeah, and plus.
You know I want to get in there, maybe have a drink, maybe have
something to eat.
Just relax before I get on aplane.
You know what I mean that'swhat I've heard.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
People are like the, the the us of the conversation,
are like the vacation shouldstart like the minute you leave
your house.
You know, basically, there's noneed to be like so stressed at
the airport now, um by by whereyou live?
Is it by a major airport?
O'hare Airport yes, oh, oh, mygosh.
Okay, so you're right by, likeone of the hubs.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh yeah, One of the biggest airports.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, so that's the one you usually fly out of.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, I mean there's two.
There's O'Hare, and thenthere's also Midway.
Midway is a smaller airport,much faster to get through, but
it's a lot further away thanO'Hare is to my house, and then
O'Hare has a lot more optionsbecause it is a major hub.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, yeah, so that's kind of similar.
For me, obviously, the biggestone is LAX, which anyone who's
ever flown that knows that it isnot a fun experience.
That's one of almost thebiggest but worst airports.
But then the one that I thatknows that it is not a fun
experience.
You know that's one of almostthe biggest but worst airports.
But then the one that I love togo to is the Burbank Airport,
and that one you really couldarrive like six minutes before,

(15:13):
but to me it's still just partof the experience to get there
early.
Now.
Have you ever missed a flightbecause you're late?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know what Luckily I've never had.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Same yeah, me neither .

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Once or twice I've came super close, but I have
never missed a flight.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, and I'm sure you would agree with me now too,
that missing a flight nowadaysis so risky because of just how
bad customer service is, andairlines are just like well,
sorry, I can't afford to losethat much money on a flight.
If they can't, they can'trebook me or if, like that, I
lose a day of vacation.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh, absolutely, and you know it's the luck of the
draw.
You know, sometimes you getsomething some person really
nice, and sometimes you get aperson's like.
Well, why the hell are you here?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
today, you know, if you explain to them.
Well, I was testing the viralairport theory that I saw on
TikTok.
I know that's not a good reason.
I would say of my friendspretty much everyone is a medium
arriver.
We're all pretty much on thesame page.
I don't really have anyone thatwants to get there seven hours

(16:21):
early, but I also don't haveanyone that wants to cut it.
Like who's an adrenaline junkiethat wants to cut it so close?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Now.
Have you ever came close tomissing a flight?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, I really have not .
Yeah, Like I'm the same where Ijust feel like I'm very
responsible around my flightsand especially I used to have so
much flying anxiety that I feltlike I couldn't be relaxed
enough to miss a flight beforeyou know.
I'd have to like be there, butit almost seems like the hassle

(16:52):
of missing your flight is notworth it.
It's just worth getting to theairport earlier.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, that's true, and, like you said, sometimes
the take account of people arenice.
Sometimes, oh my God, yeah, itall depends.
But most of the time they'vebeen okay.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Exactly, I don't do.
I purposefully don't do thisroute anymore.
But when I, my parents used tolive in Pennsylvania and I would
always have to stop in Detroitand, for whatever reason,
detroit just would like alwayscancel a layover, like I would
find myself stuck in in Detroitand, for whatever reason,
detroit just would like alwayscancel a layover like I would
find myself stuck in Detroitmore than a person wants to be.
And one time I Ubered to thehotel and then I went out to

(17:33):
dinner with my Uber driver whichsounds like a Dateline movie,
but it actually it was.
He was a perfectly nice man andhe showed me like a great
restaurant.
It wasn't romantic or anythinglike that, it was just like a
nice person that was showing mea restaurant in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
That could be a good movie there.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It could.
It could either be a horrormovie or a love movie.
I don't know what direction wewant to take it, but it's still
good.
But I would love to hear fromany of our listeners too, like
if people are testing theairport theory and how it's
going for them.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, that would be kind of nice.
Anyone watching this definitelyget on our social media and let
us know.
It would be interesting to know.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, it seems like most younger people are the ones
that get there six minutesbefore.
It seems like once you hit like39 or 40, you just want to get
to the airport with enough time.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
If I had to, I have to admit yes.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh, that was a good conversation.
Now here's a really greatconversation Now.
Have you heard of the BreakfastClub?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yes, I have With Charlamagne.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yes, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, so you have Charlamagne.
That's on there.
Then you also have DJ Envy andthen Jess.
I believe her last name ispronounced hilarious At least
that's the way it's spelled.
And then there's a new personjust joined.
Her name is Angela Yee.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
So basically what happened is Jess took off some
time because, you know, she wason maternity leave and Angela
Yee came, you know, to fill infor her.
Well, when Jess came back, shefeels that DJ Envy and
Charlamagne hasn't really hadher back and she feels like

(19:23):
she's being pushed out.
She just feels like the vibejust isn't the same and you know
, a lot of people are sayingwell, the problem is is that
Angela Yee did such a great jobthat she's probably going to
replace Jess.
So there's a whole lot ofdynamics going on here and I
don't know.
I guess my biggest question isdo you think that you know, when

(19:45):
you have workplace issues,especially in this type of field
here, do you think they shouldbe airing out the dirty laundry
on air or do you think theyshould be doing it behind the
scenes?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, I'll definitely tell you it makes for good
radio.
You know, like I used to domorning radio in San Diego and
that was like the most callsthat we got and the most like
traction we would get would bewhen there was some issue or
like some drama, internal drama.
Um, my thoughts like, of courseI don't that morning show is
not really like I'm not thetarget audience or anything like

(20:16):
that.
But the times that I've watchedCharlemagne he does seem to be
like someone that rocks the boata lot like I don't think if I
was there it would be like a lotLike I don't think if I was
there it would be like a verynurturing feeling, Like I don't
know, it just seems like a kindof weird work environment.
Some of the interviews I've seenwith him and everything, like
he's a great radio person, agreat host, but like I don't, I
just don't get like the most,like warmest you know, touchy,

(20:38):
feely vibes from him.
So I believe this person somuch.
And then it's just, yeah, thatsucks in the industry, where
it's like you take yourmaternity leave, which you
should take, and then someoneelse does a great job, and then
the audience kind of gets usedto them.
And then now it's like what doyou do?
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, I just think that I mean, I don't really
really watch the show that much.
Sometimes I'll see interviewshere and there to show that much
.
Sometimes I'll see interviewshere and there.
I just think that one when youhave issues with coworkers, it
really should be behind thescenes.
I'll be the first to admit yes,it's getting a lot of airplay

(21:16):
and a lot of attention.
It's kind of going viral.
I just don't believe in thattype of entertainment.
Personally, I don't believe inthat type of that type of
entertainment.
Personally, right, I don'tthink it's healthy.
But you know, the other thingtoo is, I don't know, maybe Jess
could have pulled them aside,maybe, or maybe she wanted to
just say you know, let's do thisin front of the cameras, let's

(21:40):
do this in front of themicrophone here this is a
podcast.
Let's do this in front of themicrophone here.
This is a podcast.
But you know, it is a big deal.
It's like when someone comes in, for whatever reason, to take
to kind of sit in for you, thatthat potential is there at all
times.
And to me, I think what you dois, when you come back, remind
people why you're there in thefirst place.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Exactly and as like a radio programmer.
What may have made it a littlebit better is if, like a few
days before the woman was comingback, if you like, kind of
dwindled down and maybe, likeyou know, was like okay, her
last day is going to be on aWednesday, and then we have like
a few days of just maybeanother guest host or something,
and then you bring the personback.
It's like people will forget.

(22:20):
But I think having them back toback like is only to pit them
against each other.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, because I guess the thing is that right now
Angela is still on the show.
So the question is are theygoing to add her as a permanent
spot?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Is she going to be replacing Jess?
I mean, there's a lot of spot.
Yeah, is she going to bereplacing, um, you know, uh,
they're going to be replacingjess.
I mean, there's a lot ofunknowns there and I don't know
the way.
The way they're doing this is.
Oh, it is kind of a little onthe shady side there, because
you know you're playing withsomeone's feelings and someone's
career potentially too.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, I know, and then it's weird because then
it's like then you're almostasking the audience to weigh in
on like which woman they likebetter, and then know, is
Anselmo's career potentially too?
Yeah, I know.
And then it's weird becausethen it's like then you're
almost asking the audience toweigh in on like which woman
they like better.
And then that gets weird too,you know, like I wish it wasn't,
because that also confirms thefears, I think, of a lot of
women in the workplace where yougo and take some time off and
then you get replaced, andthat's like, I think, even
people taking vacation.

(23:22):
That's like a big fear of a lotof working people where it's
like, okay, if I'm gone for thistwo-week trip, what if my
coworker does such a good jobthat they don't need me anymore?
That I'm found irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I know that there arelaws in place when someone goes
on maternity leave and come back, so there is a legality that
they have to be aware of too.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah yeah.
I feel like reality TV andradio people love to see, like
the meltdowns of you know, butalso like I don't know, some of
the Charlamagne has like a Imean he must be good because
he's had a career and done itfor so long, but I feel like
I've seen a lot of drama stuffaround his whole show.

(24:06):
I know this one isn't directlyhim related, but he seems to
have an environment where a lotof drama happens.
So I guess good for him ifthat's what you're going for.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I've even seen someepisodes where there were some
rappers on there and it kind ofalmost felt like it was going to
get violent for a second.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Really, oh my gosh Because.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Charlamagne, he pushes that envelope to me a
little bit too far sometimes.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, it almost is like very primal, where it's
like you think of like a lionesstaking her claim and then like
another lioness comes back.
It's very like.
I think it touches upon a lotof our biggest fears of just
like, if we go away for a littlebit, when we come back is it
still going to be like ourlittle nest.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's true, but I'll definitely be keeping an eye on
this Cause.
I'm interesting to see how thisplays out.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I know if it was me, I'd want the two women to get
their own show together.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Hey, you know what these days anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, I mean, I saw that happen a lot.
I don't know if you know whothis is, but I used to love the
Adam Carolla podcast.
I don't know if you know whoAdam Carolla is, and like he
would always have a news girl.
Like you know it would be himand someone else and then like
one news news girl and it wasalways like a very cute brunette
, like definitely have a type ofnews girl.

(25:27):
And I feel like we would seethat where he he'd have one news
girl and then they would leavefor whatever reason, then he'd
have a new one and people werelike, no, we like her better, we
like her better.
You know, it's crazy how peopleget attached to like characters
and then they just, you know,make the other person feel bad
oh yeah, that is.
There was like reddit threadsabout it and everything.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's crazy wow, yeah, I guess whatever it takes to
get people to watch you orlisten to you, huh exactly, and
I mean this sounds real.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I feel like a lot of radio stuff is staged, like a
lot of the drama that we talkedabout on our show was just kind
of fake or like amped up, butthis actually sounds like.
It is like when the microphonesgo off, they're actually
fighting.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh, yeah, like I said , it's um and you know the thing
is too.
Charlamagne does have one ofthe top podcasts out there.
So yeah, yeah, absolutely youknow, even though we don't talk
about it, but you know when you,when you're on one of the top
podcast programs in the country,there's a lot of money involved
too.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, yep, well, yeah , we'll definitely have to keep
an eye on that, oh, yes.
Well, my next story.
Some people go away formaternity leave.
These people were stuck inspace for nine months.
So it's one thing if you'rereturning back to like a podcast
studio, but when you'rereturning back to planet Earth,
that has to be a differentfeeling.

(26:47):
So basically, this happened inthe last week, I think March
18th the astronauts ButchWilmore and Suni Williams
returned to Earth after ninemonths stuck in space.
They hitched a different ridehome close to a saga that began
with a bungled test flight morethan nine months ago.
Their SpaceX capsule parachutedinto the Gulf of Mexico just

(27:10):
hours after departing theInternational Space Station and
said splashdown occurred off thecoast of Tallahassee in the
Florida Panhandle, bringingtheir unplanned odyssey to an
end, so it said.
Within an hour the astronautswere out of the capsule, waving
and smiling at the cameras, andthen they were quickly hustled
away in stretchers for routinemedical checks.

(27:32):
This is so funny because it saidI forgot about this where it
said it all started with theflawed Boeing test flight last
spring.
But it's crazy that, like,boeing couldn't even make its
way.
I'm like every single one of usthat like has to read about
Boeing't even make its way intoit.
I think every single one of usthat has to read about Boeing,
even just because I think thatwas the Starliner.
Yeah, that's what it wasExactly Okay.

(27:54):
So the two expected to be gonejust a week or so after
launching Boeing's new Starlinercrew capsule, but there were so
many issues that they had tosend it back empty and then they
transferred the pilots toSpaceX.
So, anyway, all this to say,could you imagine they spent 286

(28:14):
days in space, 278 days longerthan they anticipated when they
launched.
Like that has to be sotraumatic and weird.
Just to have like a family orjust thinking you're coming back
and you spend like an extra 200days gone, like almost that.
I can't even imagine that.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Oh yeah, I mean, I know they have to smile for the
cameras and everything, but I'mwilling to bet you they probably
were a little pissed, but theyjust couldn't show it.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, and even like I mean, who knows?
I know they prepared for itwith their bodies but like,
maybe their bodies weren'tprepared to have like 280 days
in space, you know face.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
You know.
Oh yeah, because you know, oncethey got back, you know they
needed help.
You know, because they have tolearn how to walk again.
Um, you know they have to getused to gravity because there's
out in space so long yeah andthen also they have to get used
to the food on earth as opposedto eating out in space so
there's, a whole lot of thingsthat need to be done, you know,
to get them acclimated and getthem back to everyday living.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Could you imagine just being them two like three
days into it, like going to getgas in your car and then like
looking up into this, like justknowing that you've been off
this planet?
You know we think of likevacations that we've been on in
other states.
It's like they must miss it orthat must be.
Must be such a weird feeling tobe like I'm on this planet now,
but I know what going to spaceis like.

(29:40):
I can't even fathom that.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
As crazy as this sounds.
You heard about the SpaceXrockets that kept exploding.
What happened to the other?
I can picture them being up inspace.
When are they going to bring ushome?
This is getting ridiculous.
You know what we're good.
We'll wait for a minute.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Exactly, and that's just so scary.
Talk about not knowing what.
You're returning home to One ofyour spouses Totally with
someone else.
I don't know if they were ableto talk to people.
I guess they were, but that'sjust so weird totally with
someone else.
I don't know if they were ableto talk to people.
I guess they were, but likethat's just so weird, like to be
launched into space for like200 days.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh yeah, I mean with the technology I'm quite sure
they were able to talk to theirfamily members.
But it still is not the samethough.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
No, and like not knowing when you're coming back
and yeah, like you said, gettingacclimated to the food and just
walking like that's just.
Oh, my gosh, it's so crazy andyou know.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
The other thing too is mentally.
You know when they prepared forit, because there's a big
difference between one week andalmost a year yeah I'd be like
getting off this right now, yeah, like my anxiety would not
handle that.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
if I have to like, if I go to a mall and I'm there
like a half hour longer than Ishould be, then I'm having a
panic attack, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
But the good thing is , they got back home safely, so
that was good yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I was thinking about this too.
This is like a weird thought,but there's not really like a
therapist or a psychologist thatis probably well-versed.
Like I wonder if astronauts andspace people have their own
mental health counselors,because it's like you would
almost have to talk to someonethat exactly knows what that
experience is like.
You know like maybe like otherastronauts are able to counsel

(31:31):
people like that, because thefeeling of just returning back
to earth like you would it's avery like niche experience that
you would have to talk tosomeone that knows how that
feels yeah, I would think thatit would have to be someone
associated with nasa, justbecause they need to have some
kind of familiarity with what,uh, an astronaut experiences

(31:53):
exactly because you could justhave a regular psychologist
being like how did that make youfeel?
It's like bitch, I was off thisplanet.
You think it made me feel likezero gravity.
So yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
That is true, that is true.
So, yeah, I mean I know theyreally want to get people to buy
seats to go to the moon andback and all that.
Yeah, I'm going to sit back andjust kind of wait and see.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, 100%.
I have no interest.
Wasn't Katy Perry on the listor something?
There's a whole bunch of peoplethat are yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's amazing, but there are a lot of stars on that
list, which is shocking.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah Well, they think they're stars.
They want to be out in space.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, but you know what?
You remember that disaster forthat crew of people that went
down to try to look at theTitanic.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh yeah, oh my gosh yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, so nah, like I said, I'll let everybody else
test it out first.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Exactly, but I'm definitely so grateful that
these astronauts returned homesafe, because it's like we
rarely hear stories like that.
I don't know, it just seemslike it could have played out in
a very different scary way.
Or if they were like just stuckup there forever, that's like
very scary too, you know sothat's true.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's true.
I mean, I'm quite sure thatthey learned a lot during that
experience too, and probablyprobably helped them as far as
knowing that, OK, we need tomake sure we have a backup plan
in case this plan doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Totally.
And also when you're stuck withone other person for 200 days
up in space, like what if?
Like imagine, just like sayingokay, well, bye, that was fun,
you know like I'll see you later, I guess.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, that's true, but you know, like I said, I tip
my hat off to them.
Yeah, that's true, but you know, like I said, I tip my hat off
to them.
You know again, you knowthere's a mental capacity as
well that they have to deal withtoo.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
But my gut feeling is they're probably not going to
want to go up to space anytimesoon.
No, it's almost like those themaster rock climbers too that
just want to scale rocks likewith no harness.
It's like you just have to have, I bet.
I bet a piece of their brain isjust wired a little bit
different than the normal notnormal, but the average person.
You have to have a special typeof brain to want to go out into
space or to want to rock climb.

(34:08):
It's different, but I thinkthat's really cool.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That is true.
That is true.
Talking about something that'snot so cool, Let me ask you a
question.
What is going on with peopleflexing on social media showing
them doing illegal activities?
I don't like it.
I have seen idiots with cash.

(34:35):
I have seen idiots with drugs.
I've seen idiots with drugs andI'm sitting there thinking,
okay, do they understand thatthis is evidence that they're
doing?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
this, yeah, and you've seen it on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Oh, it's all over TikTok, Facebook.
In fact I saw on social mediaand it was this one guy's one
gangster.
Um will want to be gangsterbecause he's not that bright to
me, but he's flexing, showingguns and drugs and all the stuff
like that, and while he's doingall this he got raided by the

(35:12):
police.
They bust in and arrested themwhile they were doing the.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Facebook.
Oh my gosh, what the heck.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
And again, I'm going to really date myself, but you
know we didn't have social mediawhen I grew up.
Okay, right, if anything,you're doing your dirt, you're
quiet and I'm just watchingthese youngsters.
I mean, they just tell it onthemselves, yeah, and they don't
realize that law enforcementactually have people that their
sole job is to watch socialmedia.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah.
It's literally their job, andespecially with like I mean,
I've heard that too with livestreaming.
People have live streamedrobberies before and they're
able to like catch them in realtime.
Pretty much, it's like what areyou doing, you know?
And especially with like uh,people like, um, I mean, this is
so dark and sad.

(36:01):
But even with like shooters,you know, like I think a lot of
people have like live streamthat they're about to go do it,
or like they're about to do itand they were able to actually
catch some people before ithappened, or unfortunately, they
didn't catch them, but they hadthis as evidence that they were
like right about to go do it.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, I never understood that.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I mean Me neither, it's like okay, you need to find
a new living, you know, a newcareer, because you're
definitely not a career.
I think it's like I don'tunderstand too, because you
would think it's embarrassing,like I don't know if you have
all the pile of money, pile ofmoney or a gun or something.
It's just like the last thing Iwould think to do is go live on
TikTok or make it real.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I remember this post, Grant.
It's been a while.
You remember they did thefreeze frame challenge where
they video checked themselves,probably some friends or
whatever and they just stayedfrozen for like a minute.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
There was one that these group of guys did, and
they had guns, real guns, intheir hands by doing it not a
big problem with, that is, oneor more of them was on parole
and they weren't supposed to behaving weapons.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh, my gosh.
So their little challenge thatthey did was use this evidence
to convince people.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh my God, how stupid , can you?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
be.
It really is just plainstupidity.
It's like when people I'm surepeople have done that too.
I've seen people driving andthen there's like clearly an
open container.
Or they're like driving whiledrunk and it's like the evidence
open container.
Or they're like driving whiledrunk and it's like the evidence
is right there.
What are you doing?
You know?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
oh yeah, and you know the new thing right now this is
probably going a little bit offsubject, but the big thing
right now is people, uh,videotaping themselves, um,
working out at the club hoggingthe machines, just to you know.
Get on social media oh yeah,yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I think we've become a culture that we feel like we
need to videotape everything.
We're all in the Truman Show.
It's like I don't need to havesomeone at the gym set up their
phone the whole time if it's apublic place.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Exactly Years ago, I used to belong to Bally's.
I used to go religiously everysingle day.
I ended up stopping going justbecause you know people would
hog the machines.
You know, because they thoughtit was, you know, like a dating
place, meeting people.
And it's like okay, you want tomeet people, that's fine.
Just get off the damn machine.

(38:27):
I don't care about it.
I was one of those weird peoplethat I actually worked out when
I went there, yeah, so Istopped going and I shouldn't
have done that, but it justpissed me off, cause I
understand what that feels likewhen you want to go there and
you want to do your routine andget the hell out of there.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Exactly, and like I love people videoing their like
transformation, but I don'tthink you need to have yourself
set up on the stair master forlike two hours, or you know what
I mean.
Like I feel like a quick videoafterwards or like take a 10
second video of yourself Likeonce a workout is totally fine
to like track your progress, butlike yeah, but, but I I would

(39:02):
not advise someone having havinglike a stash full of drugs,
sometimes too Like I don't knowif you've ever seen this with
some celebrity shows or likeparties.
Sometimes they'll pan a certainway and you can see like a bag
of drugs On the coffee table.
There's been some influencersthat people are like oh, we can
see up your nose and you likeactively have cocaine on your

(39:24):
nose.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
So yeah, that's the price of fame.
Everybody wants it and you know, the beautiful or bad thing
About social media, depending onhow you look at it Is everyone
can be a star.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Exactly, exactly, yep , ok.
Well, I think these people needsome help and I think
meditation may be the answer forthem.
So the opposite of those typesof people is Ray Dalio, a
billionaire who he's the founderof Bridgewater Associates, the
largest hedge fund in the world.
He's also like he does a lot ofspeaking, and I think he has a

(40:00):
few books out.
He says that the one piece ofadvice that he would give to
anyone is to meditate.
Dalio has practicedtranscendental meditation since
1968, which is crazy.
So he's 75 years old.
He's a billionaire worth 97.2billion in assets in 2023.
He's worth over 16 billion and,yeah, he meditates every day.

(40:25):
Now I've heard a lot of talkthing where people say that,
like you know, if you're busythat's, if you're too busy to
meditate then that's a sign thatyou need to do it even more.
You know, like how, if you'reso, because a lot of people
would think, okay, you're abillionaire, you run this big
thing.
He probably has so manymeetings and so many calls, but
the fact that he finds timeevery day just to get silent for

(40:46):
at least 20 minutes twice a dayis pretty interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Actually that sounds like a great idea, because I
know one of my highlights asweird as this may sound is when
I go to get my haircut.
My barber gives me a nicehaircut, he also shaves me, you
know, lines up my beard andeverything, and he gives me the
hot towel.
Okay, oh yeah, and in casepeople don't know what that is
basically what they do is,they'll rub something on your

(41:13):
face, you know prepared, andthen they'll put a nice hot
towel on your face.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Oh, that sounds so good, and.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm excited.
I fight because I want to startsnoring, I want to go to sleep,
but I'm like, no, I can't dothis in the middle of the shop.
That's not a good look.
So I'll be fighting to stayawake.
But it feels so good, oh my God.
It feels so, so good and I likeit because when I get my hair

(41:43):
cut, I'm very relaxed.
Yeah, and actually I feel reallygood after getting my hair cut,
so I will sit there and it'salmost like a meditation.
I'm just sitting back, relaxingand you know, sometimes during
the day, every so often you know, I find myself I'll just sit
for a minute or two.
I do believe that meditationdoes work.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Even if you don't do it all the time every so often.
Sometimes it feels good just tosit still, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Exactly, definitely Every day I've been trying to
like I'm I don't know to me.
I also believe that meditationcould be in different forms for
everybody Like for me, likewaking up and immediately going
outside and going for a walk,and like even getting a cup of
coffee is so good and by thetime I returned back to my desk,
I'm like, ah, you know, I'vehad so much fun.
But I also think to just in themiddle of the day, having a

(42:30):
glass of water and just like notlooking at your phone and just
being like, okay, I not lookingat your phone and just being
like, okay, I'm taking 30seconds, even if that's all I
can do today, to just like be inthis moment.
I think you just start accruingmore and more um awareness.
So I feel like I don't know,asking someone to sit down in
the morning and everything for20 minutes might be tough, but
like everyone could be silentfor like 30 seconds a day, you

(42:53):
know, and just starting thereand just like I try, and just
like I try even to like when Ido stand up comedy afterwards I
try to really be like in themoment and just trying to listen
to the sounds.
I'm like, okay, what am Ismelling, what am I looking at?
And just being more aware.
So I think it's something weall can do.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh, absolutely, and I think I think it kind of
grounds you and it clears yourthoughts too, because sometimes
when you're in a stressfulsituation and you have to make a
decision about something, it'samazing how just not doing
anything for a few minutes andjust sitting there, it's amazing
how even a few minutes of thatwill kind of help clear your
mind a little bit yeah.

(43:30):
Kind of have a clearer thoughtabout as far as what you want to
do, right?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
have a clearer thought about as far as what you
want to do.
I'm off my game completely nowtoo, but I also feel like it's
easier to meditate and to do allthis when you're eating way
better and cleaner.
It's hard to eat a bunch ofOreos and then be like now I'm
going to sit and clear my mind.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
That is true.
Talk about something that's outof people's mind.
Now, do you remember SherryPapini?
No, sherry Papini is the womanthat pretended that she was
kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh God.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
And you know people were looking for it.
It was a big, massive hunt forher, but she was actually with
her boyfriend at the time.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh my gosh, that's almost like the movie Gone Girl,
like a version of that, whereshe kidnaps herself.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
She actually spent some time in prison Either
prison or jail and you know theywent after her to make her pay
back all the money that was spitsearching for her, even though
she wasn't really lost.
And you know her husbanddecided oh, I do remember this.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Okay, I remember this .
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And now her husband obviously divorced her.
I think the divorce is almostfinal, or it is final, because
obviously that's going to put astrain on the marriage.
When you know your wifedisappears to be with another
man, yeah, probably not a goodthing.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
A little know, your wife disappears to be with
another man.
You know, yeah, probably not agood thing, right, a little bit
of a not the best look.
So she's back in court andshe's fighting for custody of
her two children and she wantsto judge to make her husband or
ex-husband not allow herchildren to watch a new hulu
documentary that's coming out,called Perfect Wife, which is
basically about her story.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Wow.
What do you?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
think you think she's in the right for wanting
custody and having the nerve tohave a court prevent her
daughters from seeing thatdocumentary.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Remember was it a few weeks ago?
We talked about like CaseyAnthony now was going to
represent people legally orsomething right.
It seems like this.
Maybe this is a perfect casefor her.
Like this seems like her exactkind of client.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I mean, I feel like kind of, like I said, similar
with the Casey Anthony thing is.
I feel like everyone shouldhave the right to like, grow and
heal and learn from just theirmistakes, slash weird moments.
But I don't know howtrustworthy I would find this
and I don't know.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I think um.
I think that's a lot of nervepersonally yeah yeah, because
here's the thing if you're nothappy with your spouse, whether
it's's your husband or wife, andyou feel like you need to move
on, you need to make thatdecision to move on.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I mean, that's a part of life.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Hard as it may be, that's a part of life.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
And it's painful.
But it's more painful to like,lie or drag all these things out
.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Exactly, and then also too.
What are you telling yourchildren when you did this?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
And then now you want to come back and say well, I've
done my time, so yeah, I wantmy kids back now.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Exactly yeah, I don't think so.
No-transcript.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, and then, like I said, the idea of trying to
get the judge to prevent herkids from watching the Hulu
documentary, I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, how could that even happen?
Because at one point they'regoing to be teenagers that just
watch it out of curiosity.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
And here's the thing about it that ship has already
passed.
They already know the story, soyou keeping them from watching
it isn't going to erase theirmind.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Exactly, and if they get social media or I bet their
classmates might know it or havewatched it, or their
classmates' parents.
You can't really prevent peoplefrom watching something on Hulu
.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, I mean, if they really want to watch it,
they'll find a way to watch it.
There's no corner in the worldthat's going to be able to stop
them from doing it.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Or they won't see it, but they'll still hear the
story and get the gist of itfrom someone else down the road.
They'll just be able to knowwhat happened.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That's true, that's true.
But I just think that it's alot of nerve to just think that
you could just waltz into theirlife and like, hey, nothing
never happened you know me too.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I remember this story .
Now I wonder I don't know if itsaid in the article do you know
how long we felt that she waskidnapped for like?
Was it days or weeks, or likean?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
hour it was.
It was weeks, really, okay,okay.
Yeah, that's the other thingtoo, meryeryl.
It was a long time.
I mean, it wasn't like a day ortwo.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I mean there was a lot of harm here.
And then you know to make upthe idea about she was kidnapped
and all this other nonsense,and then to find out that she's
with her boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's almost like youdouble down on something bad
you're doing and make it like 10times worse.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, and I feel sorry for her husband, because
can you imagine your spousepulling this kind of nonsense?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
No, I would be like now you are kidnapped, go away.
If Jack embarrassed me thatbadly, I'd be like okay, now I'm
calling the news channels onyou.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I just think that it's a lot of nerve.
I don't see her getting custody.
I could be wrong, because I'veseen crazy things happen.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
But I can't, because it's supposed to be for what's
for the benefit of the kids andI don't know if this will be in
the best interest of thechildren.
Exactly exactly, I feel likemaybe I mean, I don't know her
personally or be in the bestinterest of the children,
exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I feel like maybe I mean I don't know her personally
or like what influence she hason the kids, but I still feel
like, yeah, like having them beable to have a mother role or
have being.
You know, being a mother isthat I wouldn't say like no, she
should never see them, orsomething, but but having them
like full time, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, well, we will definitely hear about this,
because it'd be interesting tosee how this goes.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, we can combine all the things and we can like
say that she got kidnapped inspace for 280 days and send her
up in a Boeing, and yeah, thereyou go.
Well, I'm going to end my myportion on a fun, kind of weird
note.
But the food delivery app, doordash, that I'm sure you have
used and I love use a little bittoo much uh, just announced now

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that they're going to do buynow, pay later payment plans.
The announcement has struckmany as downright dystopian and
has led to warnings about theirpredatory practices.
Buy now, pay later apps uh,people can now use clarna for
their doordash orders.
As they prepare for that.
I didn't know this, but clar,but Klarna is a Swedish fintech

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company and so it's become oneof the best known buy now, pay
later apps.
I've also heard of like a firmthere's I forget what the other
ones are, but people are saying,like, if you're you, if you
have to have a payment plan fora McFlurry, you've lost the plot
.
You know, obviously, obviouslythis is an indicator that the

(50:44):
economy is not doing so great,to say the least.
But like, um, I don't know, atfirst my thought was, like,
maybe people need it or maybepeople like you know, they just
can't afford it.
It's payday the next day andyour family needs to eat.
But then to me, like then that?
Then, like, go to a grocerystore, like then you don't need

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to be door dashing.
But I'm sure there are somecircumstances where people like
that are food insecure, couldreally use this.
But for, like, the majority, Idon't think it's a good idea.
But you know what I mean.
There's always going to beexamples where, like this is
necessary and a family needs toeat and they can only pay $14

(51:25):
today, but in that case theyshould probably try to go to a
grocery store and get a meal for$14.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
But who knows?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Not my problem.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I think it's a horrible idea personally.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Do you, could you imagine if you were in college
and using this?
I'd have a bill of like fivethousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Mm, hmm.
And you know the thing is too,there's a lot of fees on using
it too.
It's not cheap.
Exactly so you add on interest,because obviously they're not
going to do this for free andsome of those companies that you
mentioned have, you know, beenkind of warned or had issues
with predatory lending.
So I don't think this is a goodidea.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
No, and it's not a good feeling to be paying
something off that, like youknow, in six weeks you don't
want to be paying off like a bigThai dinner that you had six
weeks ago.
It's just, it's not.
It's like a heavy feeling, it'snot great.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, I mean, and to me it's predatory lending at its
great.
Yeah, I mean, to me it'spredatory lending at its best.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, I know, I know it's not really teaching people
the basics.
If anything, we should be goingthe other way and learning as a
society to be like here's howyou could make a $3 dinner with
fresh vegetables, and we needmore education in that direction
.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Oh, I agree, I agree.
The thing is that you're goingto have two things that's going
to happen.
One you're going to open up thefloodgates for fraud because
you know, unfortunately, thereare going to be people that are
going to figure out a way toabuse this.
That's the first issue you'regoing to have.
Second issue you're going tohave is you're going to have
people that are going to getthemselves in more financial

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trouble doing this because theyreally don't have the money to
do it in the first place.
But what they figure is well,I'll go ahead and do it, I'll
pay later and I'll figure it outlater.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Exactly.
But then it just becomes anavalanche and I feel like, yeah,
it's not a good idea.
I've used interest-freepayments for like one or two
times when I wanted to get Iforget like tickets for an event
and each ticket I wanted tosurprise my friend and the
tickets were like so expensivethat I couldn't really you know,
I didn't have like $700 to do,but what I did have was like

(53:35):
knowing that I was going to pay$100 for seven months and it
sucked to like be paying thatfor that long, but it was like
worth the experience.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't do likeinterest on it and that you know
, this was just knowing that,okay, this is gonna suck to have
to pay this much for that long.
But it was like I wanted totreat and surprise my friend and
that's how I did it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
But yeah, did they say when they were gonna do this
, or is it just an idea?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I think, um, no, I think it's coming pretty soon.
I think they're getting readyto like go public within pretty
soon, wow, I know.
So, yeah, it seems like itdoesn't really even seem of a
signic of like a um, aindication of a economy, or like
a recession.
It just seems like anindication of like bad financial
practices, you know, and andthe fact that we don't need like

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none of need a fifteen dollarburrito, like we need food, but
we don't need it to be likeconvenient right this moment to
be mailed to us, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And then, like I said a lot of times, the people
don't catch this, but when youorder through a lot of the
DoorDash Uber Eats and all thatstuff like that the price of the
food a lot of times isdifferent.
The price of the food a lot oftimes is different.
Yeah, yeah, actually charge alittle bit more when you use
those apps versus if you justorder directly from the store
right, and of course there areexceptions to every rule, like

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I'm sure there's.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
There could be some little old lady that like can't
make it out to the store and shedoesn't have that much money,
so like doordash could be theonly way and using pay later.
But that those happen like oneout of every, like 14 000
situations, you know that's true.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
That's true.
I just hope that people don'tabuse this, because last thing
we need is another way forpeople to get into more
financial debt.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
You know exactly exactly, and I think once, once
again, as people mature, yourealize it is not.
It's not worth the feeling oflike having to pay three
installments of a steak dinnerbeing mailed to you.
It's not worth it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
That is so so true.
Well, talk about interesting.
You probably know this person.
Do you remember the Bacheloralum?
His name is Sean Lowe's.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yes, yep, he was one of the OGs.
I liked him and he's stillmarried.
He's one of the rare ones thathis relationship actually worked
out.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yes, that is true, he just had an incident with his
dog.
His dog actually attacked him.
He has a boxer and from what Ihear it's a rescue dog, so I
think the dog is about sevenyears old or something like that
and he don't.
He doesn't know what happened,but the dog attacked him and

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they had to call the police.
The neighbor had to come out tohelp and he got a lot of
stitches in his arm.
Dog, you know, kind of grippedhim pretty badly and you know I
don't want to control.
I had to come out to get it offof him.
One of the bad parts to meabout rescue dogs or dogs that
you adopt, you don't know theirpast.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Right and you don't know what they're triggered by.
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Exactly Because he's like he doesn't know what
happened.
It's like out of nowhere hejust attacked them for no reason
.
So, you know he hopes that theydon't put the dog down.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
That's what I was going to ask.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But of course you know they took the dog away.
I mean I don't know.
I mean, if the dog is known tobe this vicious, I don't know if
that dog could be saved.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I know, I know, especially with its owner.
It's like they could neverprobably have a male come in the
house or, you know, like if amailman comes like, how is that
dog gonna react?
That's you almost have to liveyour life like.
But yeah, the fact that heattacked his own, I mean I think
they made it sound like it wasa dog he had for a long time,
but it sounds like it wasn't atall.
It was like a newish rescue dog.

(57:19):
Um, so that's really tough, Iand it's like, yeah, I hope the
dog doesn't get Put down, butthat's very.
It's scary to have a big dog.
That's that unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
It's extremely scary and I don't know.
Like I said, I don't want todiscourage anyone From getting
older dogs, but that issomething you really have to
consider, because you don't knowwhat the Past of that animal is
and what they've been through.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, exactly because you don't know what the past of
that animal is and what they'vebeen through yeah, exactly, and
and, and you don't know too, ifthat animal like it's like they
got out of the shelter.
They're in a new home, a new.
They don't know who this personis.
Maybe they were biting to like.
I don't know that that's toughall around yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
But that's why, when you get a dog because I know our
dog that we have now was anolder dog, but when I say older,
I'm talking like maybe threeyears, three or four years- oh
OK.
You know wasn't a real old dogand you know his first day, you
know he was a little snappyReally, almost sent him back

(58:22):
Really.
But you know now, you know acouple years later it's fine, no
issues or whatever.
But you know the thing is youdon't know what that dog has
been through.
So you have to be a little bitmore aware, a little bit more
cautious and just kind of feelyour way through, because some
dogs adjust very well.

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Some dogs had a horrible pastwhere maybe they were beaten on,
they were started and you knowthey don't know if they can
trust you yet either.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Exactly.
I just had a friend a fewnights ago.
I was talking to my friend andher dad just got bit by a rescue
dog that they just took inbecause the dad sneezed and it
woke the dog up and likestartled the dog and he turned
around and bit like the dadsneezed and it woke the dog up
and like startled the dog and heturned around and bit like the
dad.
You know, the guy in his like60s now had to get stitches and
had to have the whole thing andit like it wasn't anyone's fault

(59:12):
but it was definitely like, ohmy god, in like a minute, you
know, all of a sudden the dog issleeping nicely and then it got
woken up and startled and thenit got a bit its owner.
So it's like they're not goingto put the dog down, but that's
just something that it's like,oh my God, what if that happened
to like their grandchildrenthat were there?
You know, now it's like youdon't know what's going to
happen.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Well, yeah, and you know, we've had multiple dogs in
the past and I'm a big, big,big proponent of never leave
kids with dogs.
I don't care how well trainedyour dog is.
You do not leave a dog withyour child.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Period.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
And you don't like you teach them not to smush
their face or pull their tail,or, like you know they're not to
be like ridden around like ahorse and stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
And you know you'll hear people say Merle, well, my
dog is trained, my.
And you know you'll hear peoplesay, merle, well, my dog is
trained, my dog.
Okay, you could be a thousandpercent right, but if that
little baby, that little child'snot trained and does something
stupid like twist the tail, hithim in the eye, you sure your
dog is going to be able to holdback.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Exactly, exactly, exactly, and I think of like
dogs like Sean Lowe's, and Ifeel so bad because I feel like
any of the dogs that I've owned.
It's almost like when they goto a shelter their personalities
can almost change.
You know, like, who knows, ifthey got into dog fights while
they're there, or maybe they'rescared, or like you could take
even the nicest family dog andput it in a shelter and like it.

(01:00:39):
Maybe it becomes snappy andstuff.
That's true, that's so true, Ithink of all my dogs I'm like,
oh my God, they would not farewell in a shelter.
I could see them gettingaggression issues that normally
they wouldn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah Well, the good thing is outside of the stitches
, Sean is doing much better,obviously.
Good good, but he did make thestatement that he hopes they
don't put him down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
They don't put the dog down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Exactly and do you think he's going to keep him?
Based on what happened, I doubtthat he'd want that dog back.
I know I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
And you know he's got .
I mean he's got a lot of I mean.
The stitches were like I meanit was pretty bad.
Yeah, it was pretty bad thereare rescue groups.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I bet there are specific boxer groups or people
that focus on their breed ofdogs and will take those in and
know how to deal with them alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Oh yeah, the reality is it's a huge difference when
getting a puppy, raising it upto be a dog versus getting a dog
that's already an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
There's a huge difference in the two, which is
so sad, because I feel like weneed more people to adopt middle
and older age dogs.
That's true, hopefully.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I think he's a dog person, so I think he'll get
another dog Maybe not that dogagain.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I see him getting another dog Especially for him
to say he hopes they don't putthat dog again.
Exactly, I see him gettinganother dog, especially for him
to say he hopes they don't putthe dog down.
He is a true dog lover.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I'm on team dog forever.
I love dogs.
Right now, the two dogs we haveare too small for me.
I miss big, big, big dogs somuch Not ones that bite my arm,
but yeah well, meryl, what doyou have coming up this week?

(01:02:31):
oh, my gosh, you know I just had, um, last week I had such a fun
show at the comedy store in losangeles, which is, like you
know, any comedian.
That's such a dream and likehow I felt so lucky to be able
to perform at just like one ofthe biggest places, like in you
know ever.
So I'm kind of still likecoming down off of that and,
just you know, recovering,whatever.
So, um, I think my next show islike a uh, I'll let everyone

(01:02:55):
know next week, but I think it'slike a local show in glendale
california, but not, it's notfor a few weeks, so I'll let
everyone know.
Okay, cool cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Well, everyone, thank you so much for watching.
This was a great show.
Yeah, it was fun.
A lot of interesting stuff, asyou can see.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Dog bite space DoorDash.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Hey, we talk about anything and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Exactly I wonder who will be the first person to
DoorDash to space?
Ooh, that would be interestingTo like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Send a pizza, exactly I wonder who will be the first
person to door dash to space.
Ooh, that would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
To like send a pizza like a Domino's pizza.
That would be a cool brandthing To like.
If, like Little Caesars Is like, we're going to be the first
Brand to like door dash to space.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So let me ask you this Merrill, if they say, hey,
merrill, we're going to give you$10,000 To go up to space, or
if you go up to space and youstay a week, we'll give you
$100,000.
Would you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
No, 0%.
I would say no and then juststart an OnlyFans or something.
No, totally not.
No, I really honestly feel likemy own constitution.
I probably wouldn't even do ithonestly for like $3 billion,
because I don't think I wouldmake it Like I feel like I'm
very, like I wouldhyperventilate or just like I

(01:04:15):
don't.
Same thing with the underwateris like I feel, like to me it
would be like instant death, soI wouldn't take any amount of
money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
No, I hear you.
I mean, and it doesn't helpthat you know those spacex
rockets kept exploding.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
That didn't really help yeah, yeah, I, I I don't
love heights to begin with andlike going into space.
I just I know myself and Iwould be like, even if I, if the
rocket didn't kill me, I wouldjust get up there and like start
deep, like heavy breathing, soyeah.
Or I would like choke on spacefood or something or you know
whatever, like my own poo, soyeah well, we'll let everyone

(01:04:50):
someone else do it and we'lljust talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
How's that exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
exactly they could.
Like they could, we'll zoomthem in from here, from space.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That'd be cool there you go well everyone, we had a
great time.
Thank you so much for watching.
I'm lauren zelrock and I'mmeryl clemo take care everyone,
bye.