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Ever wondered what Gayle King and Katy Perry saw at the edge of space? Lawrence and Meryl tackle Blue Origin's headline-making all-female flight with refreshing skepticism. Beyond the celebrity excitement and "space tourism" narrative lies a fascinating conversation about what these private space ventures might really represent—and what information might be filtered before reaching the public.

When scientists announced they'd "resurrected" the dire wolf, media outlets rushed to proclaim a Jurassic Park moment. We peel back the sensationalism to reveal what actually happened: a genetically modified wolf rather than a true de-extinction. This opens a thoughtful exploration of biotech ethics—where do we draw the line between medical miracles like organ regeneration and potentially dangerous genetic experiments? As Lawrence points out, "Who's kind of watching over their back to see what they're doing?"

From bizarre headlines to cultural critique, we cover it all: teenage moviegoers destroying theaters during Minecraft screenings, a funeral mishap where mourners fell into a suspiciously large grave, and a hit-and-run suspect's creative but failed attempt to evade police by stripping to his underwear and watering someone's lawn. Each story becomes a springboard for deeper conversations about cultural norms, privilege, and how we process tragedy with humor.

Perhaps most eye-opening is our discussion of Chinese manufacturers who've gone viral exposing the true production costs behind luxury goods. Those $1,000+ designer items? Many cost just $20 to produce. This revelation challenges our entire concept of status symbols and brand value in ways that might permanently change consumer behavior.

Join us for an hour that balances humor with substance as we question mainstream narratives and examine what these stories reveal about our changing world. Follow us and share your thoughts—especially if you've tried ordering directly from those Chinese manufacturers!

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I'mMeryl Clemo.
Hello, meryl, how are you doingtoday?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm so good, I just door dashed myself Chinese food
for lunch.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's a power move.
I just want everyone to knowthat.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Nice, nice.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm really good, I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, I am too.
I know we have a lot to talkabout today.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We have a lot to talk about today.
Yeah, and I just I'm sure morewill be developed by the time
this comes out, but I know youand I were saying it was
breaking news where there was amass shooting at Florida State
University and I see now theyjust have the suspect in custody
and right now, of course, thiswill probably change, but we
know that one.
I think one person might havebeen killed and five people were

(01:03):
wounded.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Wow, definitely have prayers go out to that family
and all the families affected.
So it's just a shame that we'restill dealing with this problem
of mass shootings, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I know, yep, and it's like it feels like for a while
nothing will happen, for a fewmonths.
Then all of a sudden a bunchwill pop up, yeah, so I'm hoping
this is controlled as soon asit's possible and there's no
other ones.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I agree.
I agree, purr is out to them.
So, merle, I'm going to let yougo first.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh good, oh my gosh.
This one alone we could take upour whole recording.
It's the thing that everyone'sbeen talking about for at least
this week and last week BlueOrigin's all-female flight which
launched to the edge of spacewith I'm not really calling them
astronauts, but they are spacegoers Gail King, katy Perry,

(01:58):
lauren Sanchez, I'm, you know.
So, basically, I think everyoneknows at this point that Blue
Origin completed its latestspace flight on this past Monday
with a historic all-female crew.
The mission NS-31 was the 11thhuman flight for Jeff Bezos'
space tourism company and the31st overall.
It included six women.
We know, you know, obviously,about who has been on board at

(02:20):
this place.
The ride no, no, I shouldn'tsay the ride the flight maybe
just lasted over 10 minutes.
Then it went past the Kermanline, 62 miles above earth, and
so they experienced a fewminutes of weightlessness and
then they returned to earth.
There's so many thoughts onthis.

(02:41):
First, I want to hear yourthoughts, like a normal person.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I mean, you know what ?
It's kind of cool.
I mean, I think me I would loveto maybe travel to Mars or
something like that, afterthey've sent other people there
first.
I don't want to be the test togo there.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
But I mean, I think it's actually pretty cool
because, whether we like it ornot, we're part of a bigger
universe and who knows whatwe're going to come across, you
know, when we start venturingfurther and further into space
Though it is kind of hystericalthat you know, you got a bunch
of rich, rich women that youknow goes up in space, stays

(03:24):
there 11 minutes to come on back.
I think I could probably figureout better things to do with
that money.
But hey, take your zone.
I don't know.
What do you think, meryl?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh my gosh, I have so many layers.
Okay, well, one of my firstthings I mean, at my heart I'm
always a conspiracy theorist, aswe talked about.
So there's a little part of methat is even like still
questioning did they go exactlywhere we thought they went?
Or you know what I mean.
There's always like and and Idon't think it's nuts to just
ask what you're, to questionwhat you're being told all the

(03:57):
time because, like, as we'veseen, there's a way to go off
the deep end and, you know, goway too much conspiracy, but I
think it's healthy to justquestion the news and question
what we see at face value.
So you know, there's a littlepart of me that, on my corner of
the internet, has been a lot oflike they opened the door in a
way that would have never beenable to open, or you know, like
if you turn the logo upside down, it looks like a certain

(04:19):
something, and so there's a thelittle conspiracy part of me,
like I'm not sure that we'vebeen told the like 100 story
about what went on, but like theother normal, like I'm buying
it.
Part of me, um, I don't feelupset that they're like rich and
going into space.
I I just more kind of want toknow like I would have loved to
know more about what they sawand the experience, rather than

(04:41):
katie perry just saying likeit's all about love and like and
like you know what I mean.
I feel like hopefully we'lllearn more in the future.
But I felt like it was very um,no pun intended, it just seemed
very surface level of like whatwe learned and saw, instead of
just it seemed to be more aboutlike girly pops, like going into
space, than it did more aboutthe actual experience and stuff.

(05:02):
So I think I would be bewanting more of a play-by-play
of what they actually saw,rather than just Katy Perry
singing.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know what, I understand what you're saying
and I definitely agree, becausehere's the reality.
The question is okay, notwhether they went up and looked
around, but what happens if theysee anything.
Because if you notice, evenwhen we sent the little craft or
whatever, the little robot orwhatever you want to call it

(05:32):
that went to mars, you knowthey're probably careful not to
ever make it live, reason being,if they see something, they
might not necessarily want us tosee it at that time.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Exactly.
They're going to be like oh myGod, oh my God, and it's like a
movie, it's just going to gogray, or something.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So the question probably is is that if you came
across something, would youshare it with the people?
That's probably the realquestion.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Because for a long time, you know people talked
about, you know this one videothat came out and we talked
about on one of our shows.
That shows this thisunidentified object that was
being chased by two fightersyeah and they didn't know what
it was.
For a long time a lot of youknow people were saying that you
know it's fake.

(06:18):
The government didn't evenacknowledge it.
Then all of a sudden it gotdeclassified and then we found
out oh this, that was a realtape, that was a real object we
don't know that was flattenedthrough.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
So I think that's really the big question yeah,
and to be honest, it's my ownignorance, but I was I didn't
really know how far.
Like I truly thought they weregoing to like land on space,
which I thought was so weird.
Like I thought they were goingto go full buzz Aldridge and
like like go on space and, youknow, be in the costume and the
suit and everything like that,and I thought they were going to
be there for a while, which iswhy, like I think, last week

(06:52):
when we spoke, I was so worriedbecause I'm like I don't see
this ending well for, like Gailand Katy Perry, I didn't really
know it was more just going pastthe certain, pretty much.
Like someone equated it toGoing to a state line and
Touching your hand across andthen being there, which is still
amazing.
It's still like they were offthe earth.
That's still a really coolthing.

(07:12):
But I pictured it more likethey're Landing on another
planet or the moon or something.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Like I said, I think there's abigger play at hand.
So, even though these trips,you know, right past the outer
space limits and back, it'spretty cool, but I think there's
a deeper, deeper thing that'sgoing on that we're probably not
aware of.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I know and I don't know if it's satire or not I was
driving so I couldn't look itup, but I think I heard the next
one is planned and tom cruiseis on it, but I don't know if
that's real or if that's justlike some person's version of it
, so maybe we'll start to seethis more and more.
Um, as a woman, like I'm very,very pro, I love women so much,

(07:58):
I love, like I believe in women,women, but it doesn't really
like inspire me as because to me, like I already thought, women
could easily go in space andlike there are a lot of awesome
women astronauts like thisdoesn't really move my needle,
but if there's like little kidsor little girls and that does
make them more interested, Ithink that's going to be cool.
Um, I also bet a lot of people'shalloween costumes will be this

(08:20):
this year, you know so, oh,definitely definitely I was just
worried about gail.
Honestly, I I saw this notgoing well, but I'm really happy
that it just like it did.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So, yeah, you know, I think it hit gail a little bit
harder than she thought because,um, gail and one other of the
women kissed the ground whenthey got off, which yeah yeah,
exactly which I could imagineand like, yeah it.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Just the whole thing behind it was odd.
It doesn't help right now aswell that I think katie perry's
kind of on the decline of likewhat people think about her in
the world, so it it almost madeit a little bit worse that she
was there.
You know, like, to me that'sfine, that's awesome that she
went, but like people are kindof already ragging and dogging
on her so like her doing thiskind of didn't really help.

(09:06):
But um, yeah, it's weird butcool.
And I still don't know if ithappened or not because, like I
said, I'm a proud conspiracygirl.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So I hear you, I hear you well, let me know how it
goes.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I hear you going up there next right.
My, I think my zoom would workbetter in space, and it does at
my house a lot of times.
Next time we're having Wi-Fiissues, I'll just ask Bezos to
help me.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Talk about interesting.
Yeah, everyone knows about thislittle small movie that's out
called Minecraft, uh-huh.
So, unless you're on adifferent planet, you've heard
of what Minecraft?
is yeah, yes.
So, um, this is really crazythat this is happening, but, um,

(09:54):
obviously, for the firstweekend opening they made over a
hundred million dollars insales.
They did actually actuallyreally well.
But, on the bad part, kidsreally showed their ass in those
movie theaters by throwing thepopcorn around, throwing soda,
jumping around, just actingcrazy, screaming, and there were

(10:16):
some theaters where theyliterally and I mean literally
ripped the seats off the floor.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't understand what the hell that was about,
but yeah, so now, as a result ofall of this, a lot of theaters
are changing the rules where, ifyou're going to see minecraft,
you need to have an adult andnot, you know, one adult with 20
kids either.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know right, right , right, yeah, have an
appropriate for every six orsomething, yeah, you know right,
something more manageable.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
That makes sense.
And you know, the other thingtoo is they actually went crazy,
I guess, when they was at thepoint where there's a scene in
the movie where they're in aring and this chicken jumps on
top of this animal and they callhim Chicken, chicken jockey,

(11:07):
and that's when they literallygo berserk again.
They're going berserk over thisfictional item.
But I was really stunned at howcrazy and just ignorant I think
a lot of these kids were.
I mean, it's okay to getexcited and all that, but you
know, I don't want to be in thetheater and have popcorn thrown

(11:27):
on me, I don't want soda thrownon me, I don't want people
ripping the thing apart, jumpingand screaming.
I mean, what do you think?
You think I'm being too hard onthem?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
No, well, it's so funny because I fear that as a
child this would have been meand my friends.
But I'm like I feel like we didjust about this when I went to
hebrew school and we were like Ialways got detention and
everything but throwing thepopcorn and just generally being
unruly.
I could see that ripping apartthe seats and like actually
defacing the movie theater.

(11:57):
That's just bad, like that'scrazy.
That kids don't know theconsequences of that.
Like that's bad.
You like I think anytime youhave a movie theater full of
kids, it's going to get sillyand a little probably people are
going to be misbehaving.
But I think the actualdestruction of seats in the
theater itself is prettyshocking and shows, you know,

(12:18):
these are a lot of kids thatgrew up during COVID and
probably don't know how tohandle themselves a lot in
public and many of them are ADHDand you know all that stuff,
and so not all of them.
Not excuses for bad behavior,but just like I think, the
climate more now, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I think that there'ssome common sense in there.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know doggone well , ripping a seat apart is not
acceptable and you know he'sbeing the adult that has to go
now.
Chaperone and, like you're, oneof three adults in the theater,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And here's the other crazy thing too what if some
theaters if they keep doing thisdecide to detain these kids and
press charges?
Yeah Well, obviously the kidscan't afford to pay for that
damage.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So guess who's on the hook for that damage?
Their parents, exactly.
I saw a clip of Jack Black atthe movie theater.
He showed up in real life andhe was telling the kids, like
behave, don't do that.
And everyone's like, ah, I mean, I think it's a lot of things.
I think it is like kids beingspoiled and not know how to.

(13:26):
But I really wonder how many ofthese children know how to have
had practice like sitting in amovie theater by themselves or
sitting in a public space,because, like I said, they've at
least had two or three yearsoff from COVID and besides
school they might not have a lotof whatever.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
That like have a lot of whatever.
So yeah, that's true, that'sactually a very valid point,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, which I mean they absolutely should still get
the best, the biggestconsequences, and it's like
crazy, but I think it's just adifferent breed now, yeah,
that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So for all the parents out there that's either
watching or listening, go withyour children to go see
Minecraft.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And besides, short of ripping the seats off, is it
wrong that I feel like if I wasin the theater as an adult, I
would probably be throwingpopcorn too.
I would probably clean up aftermyself, but I probably would be
badly behaved.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Most people would probably just shove off, like
the popcorn thing, but I thinkthe soda yeah a little bit too
far that's disgusting and I dothink you should be like forced
to clean it up as well.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
If you're, if you're a part of that like growing up,
we would never do that, becausewhen you think of the fact that,
like they're not developedenough yet to know that there's
a person that has to clean thisup and spend their time, that
it's like maybe you weren'tgrown enough to go to the movies
by yourself, or you know, thenyou're just a little baby and
you can't go see these thingsyeah, and I think I think in

(14:54):
some ways it can kind of hurtsales a little bit, not overall,
but maybe for the theater,because you know there may be
some parents that go, you knowwhat.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
No, you're not going to see that movie.
We'll wait till the stream, youknow.
And here's the other thing.
There's adults that likecartoons.
I like cartoons too, you know.
Oh yeah, and would I go see itin the movie theater knowing
this?
Absolutely not.
I will just wait until it comesup yeah something else to watch
it.
So really it hurts the theatersagain, because again that means

(15:24):
that there's going to be a lotof people that won't come to the
theater to watch it.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Exactly, I think my parents had to take me out of
101 Dalmatians because, eventhough my dad has a mustache, I
was always, when I was younger Iwas so afraid of mustaches and
a commercial came on before themovie and Tom Selleck was in it
and I guess I was like screamingand uncontrollable, and so my
parents had to.
They paid the money, they wentto 101 Dalmatians and then they

(15:50):
had to like carry me out cryingand ever since then I like I've
never seen the movie.
So I think I was old I was oldenough to know better, but my
mom always laughs and she waslike you had to be carried out
because of Tom Selleck.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
If I decide to grow my beard, I shouldn't grow my
mustache, then That'd be scary.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's the 80s.
Look where it's just themustache, which is so funny
because my dad has that.
It's very calming and nice.
There's something about TomSelleck that just drove me over
the edge you know the crazything, I'm probably dating
myself a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
A mustache like that makes a person look like a porn
star.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh yeah, like Burt Reynolds, it's very 80s for sure
.
Exactly but out here in LA whenthey do the mustache November,
they do Movember, but it's allthe hipster guys that wear it.
I don't like it at all.
It's very like weak sauce.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Not your thing, huh.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, not my thing, nope, not at all.
I'll still go crying, but yeah,that's interesting.
Well, I thought this one waspretty cool.
There's a you know, of coursethere's a few different points
of this article about why Iwanted to bring it up.
Um, we may have seen in the newsa few weeks ago they were
saying that they brought backthe once extinct dire wolf, and

(17:14):
this resulted in a media frenzysaying, oh my gosh, we could
bring back this extinct, youknow, animal like.
What does this mean for woollymammoths?
And are we able to getdinosaurs back?
You know, it's definitely likea Jurassic Park type moment.
But now there's been a littlebit more of like a response to
that from the scientificcommunity saying like wait, wait
, wait, before you go too crazywith this, it's actually more of

(17:37):
like a genetically modifiedwolf than it is the actual, like
OG dire wolf.
And so just a few details.
Scientists retrieved DNA from anapproximately 13,000 year old
dire wolf tooth and from theinner ear bones of a 70,000 year
old dire wolf skull, which islike so crazy and just amazing

(17:58):
that they can extract DNA andthey can like sequence, the you
know, the genomes and everything, and then they're able to make
like a wolf again.
So they took, then they tookthree cells from a gray wolf
with the DNA you know they shareDNA and then they made it
together and then they prettymuch like inserted it in about

(18:19):
eight surrogate dogs and it it'sso funny it netted three
apparently healthy wolf pups,two males and a female.
So a lot of the scientificpeople are saying like we have
to be clear the fact that we'renot bringing this animal back.
We're creating kind of new GMO,you know whatever super wolves.
And right now a lot of biotechcompanies are going around and

(18:42):
falsely claiming like, okay, ifwe could, what we could do for
humans or, you know, for allthese things, and so I don't
know.
I just thought it was a reallygood conversation about, I mean
number one, biotech companiesbeing honest about stuff and
number two, like journalistsquestioning companies on it
instead of just running withlike the most attention grabbing

(19:02):
headlines I agree.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I mean, I guess I'm split on this one.
On the one hand, it is greattechnology.
There's a lot of thingspositively that can be done with
it, like, for example, let'ssay for example, you can, you
know, grow new organs.
Okay, can we imagine what thatwould do for people on the organ

(19:28):
yeah.
You know.
Or let's say, for example,people are paralyzed where maybe
it's a vertebrae in their spineor something like that.
Well, if we can regenerate andregrow something like that, that
would be huge medically.
So I could see it, on thatportion, being an absolute game
changer for mankind.

(19:49):
Where I think it gets a littledangerous is if we decide to
bring back things we probablyshouldn't.
Yeah, for example, let's say,someone who's a big Jurassic
Park fan goes hey, let's try tobring back a dinosaur to see
what happens.
And you know, it's kind of likethis unknown, you don't know

(20:09):
what you're playing with or what.
If someone goes, hey, you knowwhat, let's see if we can, you
know, regenerate a human, andthe crazy thing about it is, you
know, from a medical standpointand a scientific standpoint, we
may not be far from that rightnow.
We know when does those ethicallines come in?

(20:31):
Who's kind of watching overtheir back to see what they're
doing?
Because even though they showedus this gray wolf, this wolf
here, but the dire wolf, I'msorry, who knows what else
they're playing with that wedon't know about?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I mean, like you said , if we could do it with,
imagine if you're able to use askull or a bone or something.
What if you take Prince?
You know you find Prince orMarilyn Monroe or something and
all of a sudden you infuse itwith another baby and now you
have a half with like anotherbaby and now you have like a
half Prince baby, or just veryweird.
So yeah, I can just imagine.
Or like the Egyptian mummies oryou know, like with a way, way

(21:12):
like cavemen, if you kind ofsequence that with like a human
today, with the evolution, Ireally I bet there's some crazy
stuff that they're doing and notletting out.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, they're doing and not letting out.
Yeah, I mean, like I said, Ithink we just have to be careful
of the ethical lines, but Ithink if done correctly and done
right, it would be a gamechanger.
Now, the only thing that I seeis a major block, and I could be
in the minority on this.
I could see prescriptioncompanies have a big problem
with that kind of technology.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Because, let's face it, and most people, most people
say that companies like that,pharmaceutical companies, make
way more money on you being sickthan you being cured.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
You could see the sequence for this disease being
in and you could just deletethat shift.
That I mean, I think it's goingto start coming that way with
coding and just asking AI totake certain things out.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh, yeah, you ever see those commercials and they
have the nice music going on,they have the people walking
through the park dancing andstuff.
Side effects include this, this, this and you know, possible
death and you're like whoa, whoa, whoa wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
What did you just say ?
Yeah, and the depression ones.
It's like you may feel wayworse depression and anxiety and
schizophrenia.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And you can listen to that like well, isn't that the
reason?
I'm taking this to prevent.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Exactly, yeah, but I also think too, as like media
people and entertainment people,we know too, I mean our whole
thing is like sometimes lookingat headlines and then trying to
decipher what the actual storyis.
But I think we're at an alltime kind of low of like
journalists doing their real joband like just thinking before

(23:06):
you put stuff out, instead oftrying to fight for people's
attentions.
Cause you know, I think ourattention is so split in so many
different ways as humans thatnow they're trying to get more
and more like of our interest byjust certain headlines.
So saying that like a gray wolfis now or a dire wolf is now
back is going to be way betterthan like saying like biotech
company working on, you know,combining dna, I don't know.

(23:28):
I just feel like as humans,whereas like readers were kind
of getting smarter to decipherheadlines now.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
And I think, and I think you have a great point and
I think part of that point isalso where you get your
information.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh yeah, because you know, if you have an
organization, regardless of whopeople watch and who people
listen to, if what they say canbe fact checked and be fact
checked to make sure thatthey're being honest with you,
that's a good publication foryou to listen to or watch.
If they're kind of like goingwith stuff, that, ok, this

(24:03):
sounds like a five year old kidmade this up because, believe it
or not, you have to listen andgo.
Okay, does this make commonsense?
And what's there to back thisup?
Because you know, in a lot ofyou know I hate using the word
mainstream media there are timeswhere they make mistakes and
they correct themselves.
Yeah, and I'm okay with that,because, guess what?

(24:25):
As human beings, we makemistakes, exactly, you know.
Where I have a problem is iswhen you watch something or you
listen to something, you go.
You know that that's it's nottrue.
Oh yeah, and they still justrun with it anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Definitely oh, I think we saw that so much with
like the blake lively and justinbaldoni stuff when, like the
certain headlines were comingout, but then people were
feeling so much a different waywhere, like you know, and it
went for both people, like Ithink both blake and justin
suffered from it and benefitedfrom it.
But it was like a lot of thetimes there was this whole like
movement kind of in favor ofjustin baldoni, and then the

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headlines were clearly beingspun in like blake's favor and
it's like no, no, this is notwhat the people are saying.
This is is why I love TikTok somuch.
It's still a frontier for nowof actual people giving their
opinions.
I like it better hearing fromthe masses rather than just a
paper.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I agree, I definitely agree.
We'll see what other newanimals that they start with.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I was just going to say for Christmas are you going
to get a dire wolf?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't know.
I think my current dog may notlike that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Aww, that's so cute.
I would totally.
If there was like a woollymammoth or like an old school
like pterodactyl, I wouldcompletely, I would buy it.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
There you go.
Your house would be the safesthouse in the whole neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Exactly, I could be so cute, I'd walk in.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, talk about something that's not so cute.
Have you heard about this story, meryl, where there was this
family that was burying theirloved one?
It was at their funeral andtypically the pallbearers.
This happened in Philadelphiaand you know the pallbearers
would take the casket out of thehearse and they would walk it

(26:16):
over to the burial site, lay iton the straps so the the casket
could be lowered.
Well, in this scenario, theywere walking, they laid the
casket on the straps and thewhole thing gave way.
Everyone fell in there.
In fact, the deceased person'sson was knocked unconscious with

(26:40):
his head in the mud, pinned inunder the casket.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
And it was actually amazing to watch.
First I thought it was a jokebecause it was just so out there
, but it was real and it was asad thing.
I mean, I guess I got a fewcomments on it.
First of all, when it broke,why the hell was the hole so
damn big?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
It was gigantic.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know if you got a chance to see.
It was gigantic, yeah, yeah,yeah, I mean literally, it was
like I don't know if you got achance to see.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
It was gigantic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah I meanliterally it was like a pool
size basically.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Exactly.
You know, that's the firstthing, and then the other thing
you know, people are kind ofcruel when it comes to the
comments, you know.
So I was checking out some ofthe comments and some people
were like, well, he was bringingeverybody with him.
I was like, wow, really.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh my gosh, I feel like it does seem like something
that would happen on like theTV show Arrested Development or
you know some type of like Curbyour Enthusiasm.
How did they do you know howthey got the casket off of the
son Like?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
they had to, you know , first get themselves out and
then obviously work on trying toget that casket out.
I'm assuming probably thegravediggers probably helped out
with their equipment.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Because when you think about the casket, the
casket is not light, becauseI've been a pallbearer before,
and when you have the weight ofthe person and the casket, that
thing is very, very heavy.
I mean it's incredibly heavy.
Really so to have that thingfall on you.
It's incredibly heavy, Really.
So to have that thing fall onyou, it's amazing.

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There wasn't a lot moreinjuries.
To be honest with you, it wasshocking.
It wasn't that many, but Idon't know.
I mean, I know the family wassaying that they need to have
some kind of justice done.
Oh God, yeah.
To me AKK, that means, you knowyeah to me aka that means you
know, aka means lawsuits.
But how do you calculate thatyou know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
yeah, exactly, I feel like, even just for the show of
it, they at least shouldprobably get the funeral
expenses or the you know, thecasket expenses taken care of.
Like I don't know if they needlike a 70 000 like emotional
lawsuit at some point.
We just have to be like.
This is sad and kind of funny,but also sad, and I'm sorry this
happened to you, but it's alsolike I don't know why you would
need like $300,000.

(28:57):
But I think I feel like themedical bills should be paid for
the person that wentunconscious, and then the casket
and the actual funeral costs.
But I don't know much beyondthat if it's really needed.
Um, and I do think it's one ofthose things that's like so sad,
but it also is ridiculous andlike, when it's time, maybe
people can laugh at it, you know, but I think it's it's still.

(29:18):
I can't even imagine that.
But I also feel like sometimesdoing these crazy funerals, I
feel like a lot of that happenswhere I've heard too of people
like in the Jewish culture Idon't know if it's done
everywhere too, but you'll likedig dirt and like put it on the
person.
I don't know if that's standardeverywhere and I've heard of a
lot of people that are likegrieving so hard that basically

(29:39):
you like by accident, shovelyourself into the and it's like
I'm sorry but you just have tolaugh.
Sometimes when that happensit's sad, but it's like the only
way we can get through it isrealizing that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
So, um yeah, that that is true, that is true.
But, boy, there was a, therewas a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I mean, there are people talking about yeah, he's
up in heaven this laughing hisass off, and yeah, yeah, I mean
the person getting knockedunconscious is obviously like
that's ridiculously terrible,and then that's so sad that they
can't be present for theirloved one's funeral that day.
You know, I mean that person isgoing to wake up and basically
like have missed, like sayinggoodbye to their dad, but, um,

(30:19):
still still sad, but a littlebit silly, and this is why the
internet is so funny but cruelat the same time oh yeah, now
the other thing too.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Someone said, yeah, one of the pallbearers pissed
them off.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I was like, wow, really maybe and and we never
know maybe that person is justlike screw you, guys.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, but yeah, that was incredible to see.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That makes me wonder next time I'm a pallbearer like
you're checking where you'regoing exactly, but I do feel
like it's like a comedy movietrope of basically people like
falling in on in the cat, youknow on the casket, or after
each other.
So um, but yeah, I don't knowwho would be responsible for
that.
I guess it's the cemeteryitself or like yeah, yeah, I

(31:04):
would say so.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
But I have to admit with one of the comments, which
is true why was that hole sodoggone big?
I mean, it was like for all ofthem to fall in, it was gigantic
.
Why was that hole so big tobegin with?
Oh my gosh, I mean, did theyget drunk and just figure, hey,
let's see who falls in, let'shave a little fun today.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, that has to hurt too, like falling in on
a casket.
That probably hurts a lot.
Mm-hmm, woo, I feel like Iwould laugh.
I don't know, I'm too serious.
If that was me and I wasfalling in there, even if it was
my loved one, it's like that isso crazy and painful that you

(31:44):
have to at some point see theridiculousness in it.
Otherwise that's beyond.
Tragically, you can't compareit otherwise.
It's that's like beyondtragically.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
You know you can't compare it, that's true, that's
true, that's true, at least ityou know, for some people.
Probably lighten up the momenta little bit right exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's why I just want to become like a tree that
grows somewhere or something.
Um well, this is kind ofdifferent, but uh, I wanted to
say I might skip the next one oh, no, okay I'm gonna go with the
next one.
Um, so we talked a lot aboutjeff bezos, you know already,

(32:21):
and his girlfriend launching upinto space.
But, uh, his ex-wife, mackenziesc Scott, has given away 19
billion since divorce from himsix years ago.
A new report found that shetransformed philanthropy after
her divorce from the Amazonfounder.
It's that she's given to, youknow, many different types of

(32:42):
philanthropy, a lot of business,a lot of nonprofits, which I
forget.
That when we first kind of wereintroduced to Bezos, he was
still married to her right.
I think, for the most part thatI remember the divorce which
happened.
It became official in 2019.
It resulted in approximately a$36 billion settlement $36

(33:05):
billion and then since then,this Scottott, who's 54 years
old, has transformed philosophy,philanthropy, with donations to
universities, um, and just alot of recipients.
So I think that's ridiculouslycool.
Could you imagine getting adivorce and then your half of
that is 36 billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
like that's a hell of a settlement.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Let me tell you I know and then I actually love it
.
Two years after her divorce sheremarried um a man named dan, a
former seattle-based scienceteacher.
They got divorced after.
But that's so funny, likegetting 36 billion dollars and
then getting married to like ascience teacher, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, that is.
I mean, I'm quite sure thatscience teacher had to sign a
prenup.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
But let's face it yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
They probably walked away a multimillionaire.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Exactly.
I think I remember, like lastyear, let's see, she said she
made headlines when sheannounced she was giving away
640 million to over 300nonprofit groups, and then so
these basically applied and thenthey were chosen, you know, by
hand by her, and so I don't know.
I was going to ask, like whatwould be the first nonprofit or

(34:19):
group that you would give moneyto, if you, if you like, got
rich tomorrow or got the moneytomorrow?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know what I would probably probably give to.
There's a place here inIllinois it's called the Cradle
for Adoption and there's aprogram called the Gayle Sayers
Program.
So what they do they specializein adoption of African-American
babies and I would probably dothat, you know donate there and

(34:58):
then probably also to thechildren's.
I think it's called AnnLawrence Children's Hospital now
, because you know, when my sonwas a child there was a
situation where they reallyreally took care of my son.
So I would definitely give tothem.
So those are personal to methat I would give.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I love that.
What was the first one called?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's called the Cradle.
It's an adoption service andthey have different programs
within it, one called the GaleSayers Program, oh my, gosh,
that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Well, what if I'm like I would give it to the
hairdressers of America?
No, I would give it to like thehairdressers of America.
No, I would probably.
You know my answer used to bemore, way more animal based.
Like I would definitely.
That would definitely be partof my portfolio is giving a lot
to like smaller adoption ranchesand smaller, you know, horse
things and stuff um.

(35:45):
But I feel like now I wouldlove to like take one city at a
time and kind of be like okay,how much do we need to make to
like make San Francisco a littlebit safer and better?
And you know that includes like.
I would almost like use mybillions to focus on like one
city at a time and then, littleby little, being like OK, now
the city is like cleaner or ithas better transportation.

(36:08):
You know stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Oh, that would be great.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
That would affect a lot of people's lives, because I
always think about that, whereit's like like LA is kind of
falling apart so much, but youknow that there's so many rich
people here that like I meanit's not impossible.
It's pretty tough, but if youcould work with the city just to
try to like make things better,and maybe that means opening up
houses for homeless people or,you know, like finding a place

(36:33):
for everyone, and that would becool.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
That definitely would be cool.
Well, talk about cool.
Michelle Obama is trendingright now, and she's trending
because she went on a popularpodcast and addressed the rumors
about her and her husband, akaBarack Obama, getting a divorce.
So, in essence, what she saidwas a lot of people were talking

(37:03):
about how she didn't go toCarter's funeral, she didn't go
to the inauguration of PresidentTrump.
It must be getting a divorce.
All this is going on andbasically what she said was it's
kind of interesting that awoman can't just make up her
mind what she will and won't do,and the first thing out of

(37:24):
their mouths is we're getting adivorce.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
And I'm actually, on the one hand, glad she did
address it.
I'm actually, on the one hand,glad she did address it, but I
think, on the other hand, it'ssaid that she had to address it
I know well, okay, so I was.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I was one of the ones that I remember I was like I
think they are gonna get adivorce, not because not
absolutely women could have theright to like not go or go to
things I'm a girlfriend and Ilike barely go to things.
That you know, whatever.
But to me it was because, likethey were saying that there was
lots of people that had likereal life intel that he was
already seeing someone else,like he was seeing some reporter

(38:01):
or something, and so like hernot being there totally wasn't a
thing for me at all.
It was more of the rumblings ofof like people who supposedly
knew people that were like he'sactively hooking up with someone
else.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, that's true, but the crazy thing is and I
actually applaud them is thatthey really don't let that noise
bother them.
Exactly, and I applaud them forthat.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Exactly and honestly, I like them so much that even
if they are silently nottogether, or if they're very
much together, like whateverthey are like, they're fine and
making the world better.
I think so in a good way, likeI don't need to know their
status, to listen to them or tolike them or anything.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I hear you.
So kudos to the Obamas for notletting the crazy world get in
the middle of their marriage.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
We like them.
Well, someone that was introuble recently not really in
trouble, just being made fun of,but Jake Gyllenhaal, who is,
you know, talk about going intospace and billionaires and all
this and that there was a anarchitectural digest story about
his dressing room for a fellow,and there was over a hundred

(39:15):
thousand items in the dressingroom, including a nineteen
thousand dollar chess set, andso people were just calling it
pretentious.
Um, you know a lot of this.
People said, calm down, theseare just like decorative nods to
his character, you know, and sothey were saying that some of
this was helping the atmosphereof him, like getting into
character.
Um, but some people are like,let's see, do you really need to

(39:38):
have?
He had a rug, like a veryexpensive rug.
He had a flowers lamp that waslike in stainless steel.
You know, are all these veryhand selected things?
I think the chest.
That was what sent people overthe edge and I don't know.
To me it's like we already knowhe's fine.
This was a handmade chess set.

(40:00):
I think these people have thiskind of stuff in their houses,
so it's not a big deal to me ifthey're going to put them in
their dressing room.
I'm not offended.
Yes, it is a little bitpretentious, but like that's
just what it is, I'm not upsetabout it.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I know it's a big story,
people talking about it, butthis stuff happens all the time.
A-listers have these really Iwouldn't say crazy, but very
different interesting requestsin their dressing rooms and
stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So you know some of them you go wow really.
But you know what, if they canbring millions of people to
watch that show, which obviouslysupports all the sponsors and
the production crew andeverything like that, you know,
it's not a bad thing, though itis kind of funny.

(40:56):
Some of the stuff that you hear, though, it's really good.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
The chess set was a little surprising, but okay, but
it's like you think of you knowhe's doing this movie or this
play and you think of justpeople bringing him like a
handmade set from Italy or youknow you have all these kind of
outsourced things.
It makes sense that things werethat much.
Um, I used to when I like way,way before, when I worked in the

(41:21):
music industry, after theconcerts, if the artist had like
really expensive bottles ofwine and they didn't take them
home, then I would get to takethem home and so you'd have.
You know, these bands woulddrink like 500 to 600 bottles of
wine and like maybe it'spretentious that they do that,
but then, like, to me I don'treally I don't know, you just
get to be at that level thatthey are and that jake

(41:43):
gyllenhaal's at and he's like,yeah, that's the career that
he's kind of made, or whateverfor himself is that he can have
that.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
So yeah, that's true.
It's almost like back in theday where people used to throw
these big parties and they'lltake crystal and just pour it on
the ground just to show exactlyand, the funny thing, I've
never had it personally, butI've had.
I've known people who drank itbefore.
It's like you know, that'sactually not the best tasting
champagne you can drink.
I said really it's really thename, because people are like

(42:10):
it's really not that good.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, it's not that good.
And it's also too, if you thinkabout like.
I think they said there was$18,000 chairs and a $22,000
coffee table, which is like it'sfine for that dressing room,
but it's kind of like, in a way,we know he's not using it that
much.
But this is a lot of the hotelsuites that they'll get.
They'll get these bigpresidential suites where

(42:33):
they'll have $36,000 flowers andeverything and it's just not
being used.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, that's true.
If you can get it, go ahead andget it while you can, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I feel like it's only a matter of time before he and
the chess set Go up to spacetogether.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I hear you Talk about space.
This is a crazy story here.
You may have heard of itBecause this happened on an LA
freeway.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
On an LA freeway there was a hit and run and the
alleged suspect was, you know,running from the police, you
know driving away.
And I guess what he did?
He got out, he stripped down tohis underwear.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
And was watering someone's lawn.
You know, to make it look like,hey, he was outside watering
his lawn.
I do not condone this, but Ihave to give him kudos.
That's a hell of an idea.
I mean to even think about that.
I have to give him credit wherecredit's due.
And then the story gets evenweirder is that Julianne Lauren

(43:40):
and people who doesn't recognizethe name.
She's married to rock starWeezer's Scott Shiner, so she
allegedly, I guess, came outwith a gun and the police told
her to drop her weapon and theyended up shooting her because
she wouldn't drop it.
This is all during this thing.

(44:02):
I'm like this has got to be oneof the craziest chases I've
ever done.
Did you hear about this?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
yes, I very much did.
I have some people that knowher too.
Um, wow really which is yeah,which is funny, that like also
when I feel like to me, whencalifornia people make fun of
florida, this is where I standup for florida and I'm like say
this sentence back to yourself,and we're just as bad.
A lot of times, you know what Imean Like like a man stripping
down to his underwear and thewife of a Weezer person.

(44:30):
Like all of this stuff is likeso ridiculously LA.
I mean I believe that I thinkthat's a very funny thing that
he could think of to do.
That's very like Dennis theMenace type of Bart Simpson
situation, you know.
But I mean, every day there'slike a chase on the highway.
But it is funny because, likeyou'll get into these things
where I just had a friend thathad a car accident and then it

(44:51):
ended up being like the wife ofa very well-known actor who like
came to the scene and so it'sjust like you never know.
So of course, like it endingwith like a Weezer bass player's
wife, but I think I mean sheshould have dropped the gun when
police told her to.
That's.
That's crazy.
I don't know how you could notdo that, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, I mean the thing.
The thing is, I'm amazed she'sstill alive.
You put a weapon at a gun, youknow, nine times out of 10,
you're not going to survive that.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I know, and like we've talked about before, sadly
a lot of people Don't feel thecomfort they wouldn't be able to
do that, or they don't have theprivilege to be able to Not do
that or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So yeah, all of that is crazy.
I mean, I tip my hat off to you, meryl, you're being very nice
about it.
I'm going to be blunt.
I could not do that.
Really, think about it If Iwere to even hold a gun in front
of an officer and even looklike I wanted to do something.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Exactly Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I'm probably going to the funeral home.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, that's just the reality.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I know and you know she got away with not only
holding a weapon but pointingthat weapon at them and live to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I know and I don't understand why, when this like
unless she was thinking that hewas, they were part Of this, or
like I don't know what on earthWas happening, but it's just
Such a cluster of like, all ofthat and like what are the
chances that that guy ends up onthat Lawn too?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I mean, you know, like I said, you know, I know we
got to move on, but I got totell you if you saw the video, I
mean he was just as calm, justwatering.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, at this point he deserves to like get less
jail time or something.
That's kind of funny, likesometimes when people come up
with things like that, I'm likethey kind of deserve to be like
let go a little bit to deserveto be let go a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
There you go.
Well, kudos to him, not forwhat he did, but kudos for
ingenuous idealistic.
I'm trying to be fancy with thewords here.
Yeah, creativity, exactly hewas creative.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, and imagine too , if you're the lead singer of
Weezer, you have nothing to dowith this.
And now, of course, weezer's inthe headlines just about this
and it makes it look like she'slike part of the band, you know.
I mean, I know she's married tosomeone, but it's like to see
Weezer in the headlines withthis.
I'm sure, like the lead singer,is probably like what is going
on, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Or like yeah, but it's funny, we see chases all
the time or like every day.
I feel like there's ahelicopter circling or there's
some like car going down thewrong road.
It really is like an outlawcountry here.
It's crazy.
But also the idea would be soforeign that someone would just

(47:39):
be out on their lawn like nicelywatering plants that might give
them away.
True, true, let's see.
I can't believe this is my lastone already.
Whoa, that went by fast.
My last one.
Well, we talked a lot aboutJake Gyllenhaal and his like
$18,000 chairs and there mightbe a way that now he can order

(47:59):
them through China directly for$20, because I am obsessed with
this.
So basically it's a tariff war.
Chinese manufacturers go viralon TikTok for exposing luxury
item costs.
I think this has been so funny.
This past week, chinesemanufacturers have gone online
and basically showed how cheapit really is to make luxury

(48:21):
goods such as Birkenstocks andLululemons, and now they're
trying to give people the linksjust to purchase directly.
So you can bypass the markupsand you can obviously minimize
the tariffs by ordering directlyfrom the factories.
So these videos have pulled inmillions of views.
They show everything from bulkpacking lines to breakdown of

(48:43):
unit costs and just explainingwhy things are marked up so much
.
People are saying, like you canbuy everything from a Birkin
bag to Lululemon tights, andthen you can even order a whole
year's worth of Tide pots forlike $1.
So someone's like screw this,I'm getting, I'm getting laundry

(49:04):
for a year, you know.
And so, um, I don't know, Ididn't order anything because,
knowing this weird like Trumpsituation, I would just be
worried that, like the peoplethat ordered somehow would get
in trouble or you know, I cansee it backfiring.
So until I know that it waslike safe to do so and there
wasn't going to be anyrepercussions, I just thought

(49:25):
I'll sit this one out untilwe'll find out, just because I
can see in this day and age someweird thing where it's like, oh
, if you did this, you actuallybroke this law and now you're in
trouble, you know the scarything about what you said If
this was 20 years ago, I'd belike merle stop, stop, yeah, and
now it's like you know,honestly, like I can see a

(49:46):
scenario where they're like nowwe're like kicking everyone out
of the country that bought thesetypos and I'm just like I'm
like I'm not going to jail over,like my one dollar lulu lemon
pants, um.
But I thought the manufacturersare so funny and this is why I
like pray that tiktok doesn't goaway, because just the direct
maybe that's also what they'rescared of us having TikTok too

(50:06):
is seeing like just how muchwe're being marked up for these
items and you know the scarything about it, meryl.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Again, I love seeing the comments and you know a lot
of people in the comments werenot surprised, you know, because
a lot of people don't knowthere's a lot of cars that are
quote-unquote, built here, whichreally are assembled here and
all the parts and stuff comefrom other countries.
So I can see that happening.

(50:35):
But the thing that really stoodout to me was there were some
people on there saying hasanyone noticed that the big
designers are really quiet rightnow?
They're not.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, I know they're not saying anything and like I
don't know this may be like alittle bit preachy or something,
but to me it's it's not aboutlike getting the dollar
lululemons, it's just about likenot needing them in general,
like I don't really care ifthese brands, if, like, a birkin
bag is three dollars, because,like we don't need it, it's just
a bag.
You know what I mean.

(51:05):
So, like, from the beginning,it's just if you love it, of
course, like if you love the wayit looks, and everything by all
means.
But like what this should showus is that the idea of luxury
items is like not what it is.
You know, it's a pretend ideabasically.
So, like I don't know, everyonekind of scrambling to buy these
lululemons and everything,you're kind of missing the point

(51:25):
, because the whole point isthat it's like made up and not
really needed, you know, unlessyou're going to resell them.
But I still think that that'skind of shady too.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
You know, a lot of people are going to resell them
I mean, even if I, if I did wantto, I mean honestly, if tracy
wanted one and were able to getone, I would buy it for her,
because I love my wife and Iyeah, of course but inside I'll
be kicking and screaming andcursing.
You know, paying 38 000 for abag.
But to know this, now it's like.

(51:55):
Now, on the one hand, theydon't have to worry about
tariffs because if they're onlymaking it for 20, 20, 40 bucks,
you know, hey, what?
What do they care about it?
Going up 100, 200, it's no bigdeal they can still come around,
but it just kind of shows youhow you know people fall in love
with a brand more than theactual item it really highlights

(52:18):
that big time or or like whatit means.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Like I think about that all the time too.
Like I kind of I drive like nota very nice car now and I've,
and like it's probably the leastnice car I've had, and there's
there's still like a part of methat's like, oh, I want to drive
a really nice car so I couldlike show people that I'm doing
well out in the world.
You know, like, whether we likeit or not, there is some like
unspoken things just about theworld and I wish everyone could

(52:43):
be so secure including myselfthat it's like who cares if
you're driving around like abeater car, but it does signify
status things in our mind.
I wish we were completely notglued to those, but sometimes we
are.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
That's true.
Wow, this has been a great hour.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Me too, if anyone's interested.
I think one of those sites iscalled DH gate.
That's one side I'm hearing.
But, like I said, I'm not goinganywhere near it yet and also
just because I don't need thoseitems, like yeah, I'm not like
you know, I don't like need aBirkin bag or not even need.
It's just not even likeexciting to me.

(53:24):
Um, I want to hear if anyonehas successfully ordered.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I would love to hear people's stories.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
please go on our website because we would love to
know this exactly because Imean, even like it would be
crazy awesome if, like newbalance shoes or if nikes are
like a dollar or 60, then youknow that's true, that is so
true.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So, yeah, if you follow us, or make sure you
follow us, let us know, becausewe would love to talk about this
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I want to hear like soon I'll be ordering a car like
off of amazon for four dollarsor something talk about things
coming up.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
What do you have coming up, meryl?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I have a very exciting show May 2nd in.
There's a place that's a littlebit south of LA called Doheny
Beach.
It's kind of by.
It's called Dana Point.
It's by maybe Orange County orLaguna Beach.
People may know that that isFriday May 2nd.
I'll be with a lot of reallycool people Friday May 2nd, dana

(54:28):
Point.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Perfect.
This has been a very, very funweek.
A lot of stuff going on.
Just so everyone knows, ourlist of topics was way longer
than this, that's how crazy thisweek has been.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
We could have had like 10 more at each, given like
a minute of each one.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Easily easily, but that's okay.
We're going to have a lot moreto talk about next week.
I want to thank everyone forwatching us and listening to us.
If you're on our podcast,remember to tell everyone about
us.
Make sure that you continue tosupport us and also us.
If you're on our podcast,remember to tell everyone about
us.
Make sure that you continue tosupport us and also support
Merrill.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
I'm Merrill Clemo.
Thanks again for watching.
Everyone have a great day.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Bye.
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