April 28, 2025 • 55 mins
Lawrence and Meryl dive into celebrity relationships, viral challenges, and technological advancements that are making headlines this week. They explore everything from Birdman and Toni Braxton's whirlwind marriage to the amusing but terrifying reality of alligators ringing doorbells in Florida.
• Toni Braxton and Birdman had a secret wedding last August but filed for divorce days later before reconciling
• Tyra Banks is launching an immersive theater experience at her ice cream shop Smize and Dreams in Australia
• Former child star Haley Joel Osment made offensive anti-Semitic remarks while intoxicated, raising questions about alcohol as a "truth serum"
• Red Robin's $20 bottomless burger pass promotion crashed their website and sparked customer accusations of a scam
• Florida residents discovered alligators climbing doors and ringing doorbells during mating season
• ChatGPT helped cure a Reddit user's five-year jaw problem in under a minute, showcasing AI's positive potential
• AI can also be dangerous when it "hallucinates" information, as demonstrated when a customer service bot invented a fake company policy
• Lizzo reduced her body fat by 16% and lowered her BMI by 10 points through lifestyle changes
• BookTok has accumulated 370 billion views and is transforming the publishing industry with dedicated displays in major retailers
• The Whitney Houston Challenge has gone viral, with participants attempting to time the beat drop in "I Will Always Love You"
Check out Meryl's upcoming comedy shows on May 2nd in Dana Point and May 28th at the La Jolla Comedy Store!
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lauren Zellrod.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey Meryl, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am so good the sun is out.
Here in California We've hadone day without a fire or an
earthquake.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Or a tsunami.
Yeah, we're good.
Today is good.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Nice, nice Talk about good.
I don't know if a lot of peopleknow this or not, but it was
just revealed that Birdman andToni Braxton had a secret
wedding last year in August.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So cute.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So what was interesting is, I want to say,
within a day or two, maybe evena week, they filed for divorce.
Oh, and then you know, theyreconciled and everything's fine
now.
But now you know, I guesspeople are saying they're not
wearing, they're wearing theirwedding rings anymore, they're
(01:15):
not together, so it's not reallysure, um, whether they're still
together or not, if they'rehaving issues, if they work
their issues out or not.
I don't know.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh no, I think Toni Braxton, when you say that she
goes, remember a few weeks agowe talked about En Vogue and
kind of like how they're doing.
I feel like mentally I put Toniin like the En Vogue category.
Now I may be completely wrongand she may be like selling out
amphitheaters left and right andstill touring very heavily, but
I feel like I think of her assomeone that's wonderful, who I
(01:48):
love so much, but like maybe isdoing casinos and is maybe not
selling out like she used to.
So in a good way, I feel likewe've.
She hasn't been in theheadlines, to my knowledge, over
the past couple of years, so Ifeel like, in a good way, she's
kept this whatever is going onpretty private.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I know they've beendating for a while and then they
broke it off and then got backtogether.
And then I was checking mynotes and I noticed that when
they divorced it was literallydays after they got married and
then reconciled after that.
But I don't know.
I mean it kind of goes back towhat we talked about as far as
(02:28):
um relationships in hollywood,you know, whether they really
work out or not.
I mean, I know it's verydifficult, but I would kind of
think that, being that both ofthem are in their 50s, they
would kind of know what theywant.
Or am I being a little bit toooptimistic?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
um no, I think you're being completely realistic and
I I also just looked at birdmanand like good for him if that is
his desired look, I love that.
But I did not know that.
Her husband looked like that.
He has like a bunch of tattooson his face and imagine, like I
just think about getting thosetattoos when you're in your 20s
or 30s or whatever, and then allof a sudden now like being 50
(03:04):
or 60 and like regretting thatmaybe he doesn't at all.
But um no, I also think too,maybe the weight of getting
married sometimes.
I think it happens a lot oftimes where, like on their
wedding night, a lot of coupleswill just kind of be like, oh my
god, what did I do?
You know the whole thing wasleading up to it.
I feel like a lot of timespeople are excited about the
wedding and excited about theidea of getting married and then
(03:26):
all of a sudden you do and likeone thing happens and maybe you
find out something that you'relike wait what?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's true.
That's true.
I mean with the stardom, theirbusy schedules, there's a whole
lot that goes on.
I mean mean birdman obviouslydoes a lot in front of the mic
and behind the mic as well, sohe's pretty busy.
So I could see how sometimesyou could get that kind of crazy
(03:53):
.
But I would have to say, todivorce after a couple days,
then get back together kind ofmakes you wonder, um, you know
if, if, if they should havemaybe I don't know taken a
little slower, maybe weddingcounseling before they got
married yeah yeah, and again,this is from the outside,
(04:16):
looking in.
Obviously we don't know what,what happened to bring all this
to to pass, but it justbasically makes you just just
wonder, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You're right, and I was going to say like cause.
Remember when this happenedwith Kim Kardashian, I thought
she was married to ChrisHumphries, or something, for
like four days or like 17 days.
And I feel like that'sunderstandable when you're in
your twenties and it's like youdo things impulsively, like
Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee,and you just meet and fall in
love.
But I think when you're in your40s and 50s now I feel too
(04:47):
tired to like go through allthat.
It would take me a year just toget divorced because I takes me
a long time to do a chore.
But, um, yeah, I agree with youand I wonder too.
It's like you probably havewith these two people.
You probably have reallypassionate artist type people.
So it's like if one thing goeswrong, I can see it being like
(05:08):
the wedding's off.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
you know we're done.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, as you get older too,you do get a little bit set in
your ways, whether you realizeit or not.
So, oh yeah, who knows what itis, but we'll definitely be
watching.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Exactly, toni Braxton is 57 and also she is an
example of people that are hotat any age because she looks
beautiful.
That is so true.
She's cool, and it says thatshe was married before Keri
Lewis, married 2001 to 2013.
So it's like you took all thistime off and then you got
married again a decade later.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, you need a little bit of a break exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I don't, luckily, like.
I don't know any people likethat in my life.
I think everyone all my friendsare like not too poor, but it
takes a long time to plan awedding.
So by the time you plan it,you're pretty sure that you want
to like stick with it at leastfor a month.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, we'll see.
Oh, okay, I'm digging back intoanother iconic woman and I'm so
excited about this one.
Okay, so Tyra Banks, our girlTyra Banks, wants to bring
immersive theater to a local icecream, her local ice cream shop
, which I just think.
This is so cool.
So here's some of the details.
It's called Smize and Dreams.
(06:28):
You know, we know Tyra for likeher smizing on America's Top
Model, of course, smiling withyour eyes, and I didn't know
that she lives in Australia now,and so Tyra was just on the
Today Show and she was talkingabout what her life is like now
that she moved to Sydney, andthis was, in part, to launch her
ice cream brand, smize andDreams.
(06:48):
She was saying that she justdecided to make the leap, and
her approach to this, which Ilove so much, is she wants it to
be an immersive experiencewhere the workers, the people
that work there, the employees,are like theater.
You know you could do basicallyyou're acting out a role.
So she said one employee couldbe like in wicked, acting out a
(07:09):
scene, and another employee canbe like doing a shakespeare
moment.
Um, I guess you'd have to geteveryone on the same page,
otherwise that would look prettychaotic.
If someone is like in a jamesbond moment.
But uh, she hopes to bring itto america in 2026.
One of the first pop-ups uh forin australia is going to be at
the sydney harbor, and I thinkthis is amazing.
(07:32):
Like I am fully excited forthis.
I would love to go try out someflavors and just see.
Like I wish more employees wereable to just kind of act how
their you know personality is,as long as they're doing a good
job.
And also, like I just feel likeice cream needs to be fun again
, and I think this is a greatway to do it, because I think so
many shops are just kind ofbland and I feel like you know
(07:54):
back in the day, more ice creamparlor type vibe.
So I love this.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think it's a great way for people to get discovered
.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, because it's a great way for people to get
discovered, because it'sactually a great idea and a
number of ways the the.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The one way is I can see the ice cream shop doing
really well on areas that have atheater district like New York.
Um over in California, you knowall the theater districts me
scooping and smizing, there yougo, and then Chicago has a has a
good, healthy theater district.
You'll be catching me scoopingand smizing.
There you go, and then chicagohas a has a good, healthy, uh
theater district as well.
I see that doing very well, Ithink.
If it was, if it's donecorrectly, I think it'd be a
(08:33):
huge hit me too.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Me too, I want and this has the making of, maybe
she's also planning like anotherreality type show, because this
also seems like something thatshould have its own channel, and
like the drama of the ice creamshop.
Um, yes, I think that's reallycool that she lives in Australia
as well, and I feel like Iwould trust Tyra with coming up
with some really ridiculous andgood flavors.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I wonder what made her move to Australia, though.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I know I wonder if it's like taxes or something,
also something that was funnythat I didn't see anyone comment
this year.
But I feel like a lot of youknow, over the years she kind of
has gotten a little bit of likebacklash for america's next top
model, just because a lot of itwas very severe on the models
about their weight and you knowthere's like a lot of clips kind
of saying stuff to her.
But I think that's funny thatnow her brand is going to be
(09:21):
more ice cream, because I feellike the tyra of last decade
would have told the girls to layoff the ice cream and yeah,
it's totally opposite from whatyou know.
The show exactly, exactly,exactly, and I've seen even
people you know I I think thatwas what was happening back then
and I I feel like she wouldn'tbe the same now.
It's like we all learn and grow, so I'm not, I'm not holding
(09:43):
that against her today.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
But you know what, if they did bring it to the States
, and they brought it to Chicago, yeah, I would get some ice
cream and go there to watch alittle mini show.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I know, but but I could also see.
I feel like it would have to dolike wizard of oz and someone
is doing like annie yeah, thatwould look a little weird right,
yeah, but I think it's cool andI think it provides.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I wish there was more just uh, excitement around fun
brands like ice cream maybeshe's trying it over there just
to test the waters first beforebringing to the states maybe
yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, she thinks she's gonna do it for a year
there and before bringing it tothe States, maybe yeah, that's
what she said she thinks she'sgoing to do it for a year there
and then bring it to the US.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, I am looking forward to have some of that ice
cream.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Me too.
I want to smize all day longthere you go, there you go, talk
about interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Do you remember the movie the Sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, do you remember the little boy that had the
classic line?
You know, I see dead people, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No, I said I see ghosts.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh no that was I see dead people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Was it dead people?
It's been so long.
Yes, I see dead people, unlessit's like a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Mandela effect and they changed it.
But as far as I know I thinkit's I See Dead People.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yes, you're right, I See Dead People.
Well, you know.
Obviously that's an old movie,so he's an adult now.
Well, he was arrested forintoxication.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And you know he was kind of acting belligerent.
Oh no, he issued an apologysaying that he felt really bad.
(11:42):
That's not him.
You know basically all people.
You know he loves everyone, hedoesn't hate anyone or anything
like that.
I guess my question is when yousee a star because, if you
think about it, mel Gibson hadthe same issue years ago, the
real anti-Semitic stuff he wassaying, I mean it was like
(12:03):
really out there, and then theysober up and go oh you know what
, I was drunk, I didn't meanthat.
What is your take on that?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean I feel like there's no amount of alcohol
someone could like pour down mythroat to have me start saying
mean things like that, you know.
And so I mean I think I feellike day to day he's probably
when he's sober he probablyisn't a terrible, terrible
person and maybe he, maybe hedoes think some like weird dark
things, and it just came out Ihave I also bet he's going
through kind of maybe some toughtimes, which is like absolutely
(12:34):
not an excuse, but I feel, likeanyone like that, you have to
be kind of like out of it tobegin with.
So I feel like it's not like amental breakdown, but it's
almost like a weird likedivvying off.
I don't even know.
Did he say mean things aboutyour people or my people, or all
the people?
I don't even know what categoryhe was insulting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I have to take a look and see, because I don't want
to misquote it, but it wasdefinitely a derogatory
statement that he made.
Derogatory statement that hemade, wow, it was offensive.
But I don't know.
I guess to me alcohol is like atruth serum.
Yeah, you ever been out withsomeone or been around someone
that goes oh you know, I didn'tmean anything, I said that was
(13:18):
the alcohol talking.
I'm a firm believer thatalcohol is a truth serum.
Alcohol gives some people thecourage to say what they would
never say.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
If they didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, and it's like deep in their subconscious.
I feel like there's beenmoments where, if you drink, you
could start saying bad thingsabout like the person in general
not, but like to insult anentire race or gender or creed.
That has to be going on in yourmind, you know what I mean,
because I can see getting into afight with like someone and
being like you're annoying,you're stupid, you're whatever,
(13:51):
but like to just start sayingslurs, seems so weird.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I think personally,when a person and depending on
how bad it is like I say, youknow, if you say, hey, dude,
you're stupid, I don't like you,or whatever, that's one thing.
But then when you start goinginto the, the attacks on on a
particular group of people, oreven gender or anything like
that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
To me maybe that was inside of that person and that
alcohol gave them that courageto say it out loud there's going
to be too many jokes about himseeing dead careers and him not
seeing black people, which iscrazy too, because I think he
was one of the stars in my mindthat I hadn't heard a lot about
(14:39):
him.
It seemed like he had survivedbeing a child star in a good way
, he seemed to be someone thatto me.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I thought he had a good head on his shoulders, but
I wonder I have to look it up,but it wasn't anything racial or
anything like that.
But it was definitely veryoffensive though.
Oh my gosh and you know, againyou apologize, you know that's
not him, that's not hischaracter, but it just makes you
want that yeah character, butit just makes you want that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I feel like he's going to do what every Hollywood
person then does, which ischeck himself in for exhaustion
and go to rehab.
You know what I mean?
The PR book is always the same.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe he'll get help, but that is sad and weird.
The Mel Gibson thing was crazyHim on the floor with hamburger
dripping out of his mouth,talking about Jewish people and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, thank God he wasn't that out of it, cause I
mean Mel.
Gibson way, I mean I was likeway over the top.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, and then remember Michael Richards from
free or from Seinfeld Kramer.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
When that happened, that was another one too, yeah.
And it's like these people justlike snap and it's it's so
weird.
But you know what's so crazyabout that and I know we're a
little bit off subject, but youknow the guy from kramer when he
did that, you know, and andagain, it's not unusual for
people to go and heckle acomedian.
(16:00):
It's some people get off on.
It's just stupidity, but youknow it happens from time to
time, you know.
But when he talked aboutHanging someone from a tree,
that's crazy.
It was like way, way over thetop.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I know, and to even go there you have to already be
in such a weird place, you'realready at an 8 or a 9, and to
get there at a 10 Is so weird.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm sorry there's.
I mean, I guess, as a person ofcolor, there's no amount of
apology that you can say,because that's what I was going
to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So like, what, like what could haley joel osmond do
nothing like?
Would he just go away for awhile?
Is that what like what youwould advise him on?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I think what he's probably going to do is keep a
low pro and then he'll come back, because I don't even think
he's doing anything in Hollywoodnow, is he?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I haven't seen anything Not that I heard of.
Yeah, not that I heard of.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So I mean, looks like he's living a good life and
just got drunk and said somestupid stuff, but thank God it
wasn't like Kramer.
I mean, that was just, and thefunny thing about it is, from
what I hear you know, he hasgood relationships with black
comedians, so that actually madeit even worse.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
like I know, I know I don't get that, I just don't
get that yeah, but that was likeway over the top.
I was stunned when, when hesaid that yeah, me too, and the
only thing that I feel, like hehe did at the time too was just
basically having to say likesorry, I'm so depressed, I'll
like go get mental help, and youknow, you can't really just say
(17:33):
whoopsies or, you know, like Idon't know.
It does seem like, with allthese things, drugs and alcohol
seem to be heavily involved inthis.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, but I mean when he went that dark?
I don't know and I could bewrong, but I think that was in
his heart for him to go thatdark, because he's not the only
person that's ever been heckledand probably will not be the
last.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right.
Why can't they just be normal?
Anytime I get buzzed, I justlook at my ex-boyfriends on
Facebook.
I don't think bad thoughtsabout it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now the funny thing is, there's some comedians that
you might not want to do thatwith, because they'll be like,
oh okay, and you're going to bepart of the show.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Because I've seen that happen too.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh yeah, exactly yeah , seen that happen too.
Oh yeah, exactly yeah.
And then, as you're watching,you're going.
Why did he do that?
Yep, nope, but in, like in, Ithink it's hayley joel, I think
that's his name.
Like in his case, that that hasto suck too, because especially
when, like it's not like, he'sin a movie premiere next week,
like that's going to be in hisnews cycle for a while, you know
(18:41):
.
So it's like now you, if, if Iwas his publicist, I'd be like
what the heck?
Like now you, if I was hispublicist, I'd be like what the
heck.
We barely get any storiesalready, and now we're dealing
with this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, I do commend him for coming out right away to
apologize, though he didn'twait to do that, so that was a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know him at all, but he seems like someone
that would feel bad and wouldfeel bad.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But yes, yes, still very odd, super weird, yeah,
that's true.
So okay, merle, so you know,don't go out drinking the same
crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, I was gonna say I won't I turn into more
demonic on myself.
I would be like not about otherpeople, just more myself.
Um, but yeah, I would probablylike, like I said, if I was, I
don't drink, I hardly, hardly,hardly drink.
But if I was ever to go haywireit would be like probably more
about like just one person, itwouldn't be about like an entire
(19:33):
you know, sector of people, butum yeah yeah, I'm taking a look
here and what he did was, um,he made a, uh, anti-semitic slur
.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And what he did was he made an anti-Semitic slur Aye
, aye aye While he was beingarrested by the police.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's so weird, which is already like.
Once again, as a Jewish person,I'm like, yeah, I mean, we
already know anti-Semitism isalways on the rise, but it's
just crazy, yeah, especiallywhen people do it, they know
better exactly, and I hate toremind him that hollywood is run
by lots of jewish people, sohe's barking up the wrong tree
(20:11):
if he's gonna like make a bunchof jewish agents mad and
everything yes, he better becareful about that, because that
is true for real like everylawyer agent, you know,
publishing person that, like heworks with, I'm sure is not
happy with it, but oh well, umwell, one deal he won't be
getting, like with many otherpeople, is the Red Robin
(20:32):
bottomless burger, because thisI don't even know about.
This I don't I actually don'teven know if we have Red Robin
where I am.
But, um, they had a bottomlessburger pass and it crashed the
website.
Customers call it a scam.
One person said it wasliterally easier to get tickets
to Taylor Swift than it is forme to get a Red Robin burger
pass.
Wow, so excuse me, coughing upa storm.
(20:57):
On April 17th, the chain's $20bottomless burger pass, which
give holders a burger servedwith bottomless sides during the
month of may, went on sale.
Uh, there were so many sold outin moments that it just like
was rerouting people.
The page was crashing, everyonewas setting up alarm, an alarm
and it just like was completely,you know, it got too much
(21:18):
traffic and it basically crashed.
And then people said, uh, theydon't believe red robin, because
red robin said like, oh yeah,we did have a lot of purchases,
but, like we don't know how many, we're still counting it and
I'm like this isn't an election.
You know like you should havethe the stats right then.
And there, um, someone said redrobin has probably never had,
(21:38):
more than four years, four userson their site at the same time,
so they weren't ready for this,which is like super funny.
Now another person said theydid get through, but then they
showed that the purchase pageshowed a subtotal of $680 when
it's just supposed to be a $20purchase.
So Red Robin apologized for themayhem and they're just saying
(22:00):
like we're working to get itbetter.
It seems like just kind of anightmare situation.
I also feel like the bottomlessburger.
I mean, I guess that's a gooddeal to get free sides,
unlimited sides, that seems likea good deal.
I thought it meant like you getone burger like all you can eat
burgers, which would probablybe even more.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
When I first heard that, that's what I thought too,
because there's Red Robins inthe area where I'm at Right now.
With the Red Robins, you getunlimited fries.
You can get as many refills onfries as possible.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
This sounds like they're adding other stuff
besides fries to it, yeah, whichis cool if it's unlimited
mozzarella sticks or salad oryou know what I mean.
I'm sure whatever sides it iscan be exciting, but like I
definitely feel, like I mean youbetter get your money's worth.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I'm a little surprised at their website.
Their website crashed, though.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It said, after 12 seconds the whole website
crashed and they had millions ofpeople going on Like.
I think they also should haveThought ahead, like anything
like this is gonna get a hugeamount of traffic and I just
don't get it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So what did they?
So what you have to do?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
sign up for some kind of Groupon or some kind of Now
they said good luck, we'll getto you when we get to you.
And basically Now they saidgood luck, we'll get to you when
we get to you.
And basically they're going tohold a contest where like a few
people can win this as well.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But that's going to be like a handful of people out
of millions of people.
Okay, not the greatestpromotion in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Exactly, and I'm looking now at some of the sides
Like as much as I want to pay$20 for like a never-ending
steamed broccoli, it's justthere's not really.
You know, there's like quesofondido and then garlic parmesan
broccoli, but also the sidesare not that poppin'.
There's mac and cheese, garlicfries, but I thought it was
better.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So there's really nothing over the top.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Exactly.
It's not like a baked potato ormozzarella sticks or anything
like that.
So I mean, not that I'm beingpicky about it, but um yeah, I
thought it was like a bottomlessburger meaning that's what I
thought too yeah wow, I guesspeople really want those sides,
with all the uh, the pricesgoing on now, huh exactly it's
like for 20.
Just buy like 100 potatoes andhowever runny that would be, and
(24:21):
just make some fries that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
People getting upset as well.
It's just ridiculous.
I think, Red Robin, this onlybrings them more issues.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yes, that's true.
Let's hope they fix theirproblem and don't take
themselves out of business.
Exactly they need to get.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Haley Joel Osment as their new spokesperson.
There you go.
Well, let's hope they fix theirproblem and don't take
themselves out of business.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
right, exactly, they need to get Haley Joel Osment as
their new spokesperson.
There you go.
Talk about crazy.
And this is another reason whyI will never move to Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It's actually going viral now, but there is an
alligator that was climbing upthe side of a door and was
ringing the doorbell.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, no no, and then as he slid down, I guess his
buddy came.
You know, there was anotheralias.
There's two alligators insomeone's front door oh so I
guess some of the people in theneighborhood was saying well,
it's mating season right now.
They're looking for a warm,cozy spot to mate.
I'm thinking they pickedsomeone's house, seriously.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think that's kind of cute.
I guess maybe because it's noton my driveway, but I feel like
I would let them in and takethem on as pets.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't know, like I said before, anytime I have to
go out and protect somethingthat won't eat my dog or
something like that, yeah, yeah,I might not want to live there.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I know it's so.
It's so annoying and sad thatalligators and crocodiles can't
be nice because I think they'reso cute.
It's like the same things ashippos, where it's like why
can't they just be our friend,Like.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You like the deadly animals?
I see I do I do.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's so tragic that they would like chop me up in a
second Because, like, I thinkalligators are so cute or I
don't know which one is moresmiley, the alligator or the
crocodile, but there's one thatone of the two looks a little
bit more like happy and theyhave like a rounded face.
But I mean that is just crazy.
Here around here we have likebears and mountain lions that
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get on people's properties, butalligators are like look, if you
walk outside and you're notpaying attention, it could be
blending in with the grass, itcould be by your pool.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's outside your house.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean not alligators , but my friends have had a
mountain lion on her house.
Okay, yeah, like her ringcamera.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What part of California?
That way I make sure I don'tcome there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, I'm just kidding the people here are the scariest
part in most of Hollywood.
But like, yeah, my friend onthe ring camera would just have
a mountain lion like walk acrossit and it would show like
motion detected and it wouldjust be like a big random
mountain lion walking, just walk, walking, just casually.
(27:11):
Yeah, but I think alligatorsare so cute.
But yeah, if I had a dog and itwas happening to me that there
was ringing the doorbell, Iwould.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I would not do it yeah, so just make sure we look
before we walk out.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And I would also think you know like we keep our
windows open a lot.
I mean, I know in Florida youprobably have an AC on, but also
sometimes you want to open thewindow and an alligator probably
could just like chomp through ascreen.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I would never open a window.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I couldn't live like that.
I could be just in AC all thetime.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I think I would be a little bit terrified to go
to sleep with windows up,Because I could just imagine
just waking up and, you know,someone just saying hello.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, no, it's freaky .
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes, that was, but I still.
I mean, I think it's a littlescary that an alligator is
climbing up the side of a doorin the first place.
So it's like, were they goingfor something and they just
happened to ring the bell, ordid they really know how to ring
the doorbell?
Either way it's kind of scary,you know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It is.
It's freaky too, because it'slike we like to just think of
them in the water or just kindof basking in the sunshine.
The fact that they could climband like those little hands are
just so weird.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I remember this story.
I don't know if we talked aboutit on our show or not, but it
was this I think we did thiswoman who just started working,
I think, at some kind of zoo orsomething, and they were feeding
the baboons and you know, youhave to put, put it in, make
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sure that the baboons are back.
And there was one that was alittle bit the bowl was a little
bit further in.
She was the the new zookeeper.
She was new.
She was going to reach her handin to grab it and the other
zookeeper grabbed her and saiddon't ever do that again.
And we just bend over and takea look and there was a baboon
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sitting there waiting.
No, I'm sorry, not a baboon, achimpanzee that was sitting
there waiting and they said thatthe chimpanzee because they're
a lot like human as far as thefingers, emotions, showing
facial expressions, and itlooked like the chimpanzee was
(29:29):
disappointed that the zookeeperthe new zookeeper, you know
didn't reach her hand in there,because you know they can
literally rip your arm off,literally.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You know they're incredibly strong, but it's also
kind of scary that that's smart, though.
You know, I know, and they seemlike devilish in the way that
they know that something wouldbe bad and hurtful and if
they're in a bad mood they woulddo that like.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They do seem like they have some like vengeance
yeah, but I mean it's kind ofscary to think that.
Okay, what would have happenedif that other zookeeper wasn't
around to grab her and stop herfrom reaching her hand in there?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh, that is so freaky .
And yeah, I mean, I've seenclips where they try to pull
their leg and even if they'renot trying to be malicious, they
like grab onto their leg andnever let go and then all you
get is a few biting and grabbingand it can be really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, but the idea that that chimpanzee actually
looked disappointed, that's kindof evil, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Exactly.
See, I don't find them half ascute as alligators, I'd rather
have like a million.
I feel like if alligators werecuddly I would have four just
crawling around right here.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Just mental note do not put your hands in any animal
cages.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Exactly Never, ever, ever.
I barely like.
I'm such a dog person.
I love dogs so much but now inmy adult years, honestly, when
I'm on a walk, I don't even like.
If a dog comes up to me, ofcourse I will like very happily
pet it, or I'll always askpermission to pet it, but I
don't really even go up to likeany animal without just like the
right invitation.
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I used to be way more like goingup to dogs and just saying hi,
but I feel like I'm way morelike giving every animal their
space.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, that's true, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's the problem, especially on walks and
everything.
So yeah, if you see analligator crawling on your
neighbor's lawn, say something.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I feel like that should be like a ring camera
commercial.
They should make that forFlorida or something I don't
know.
They need to do something withthat.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know what?
That'd be a great commercial.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, like you never know who's going to be there,
okay, well, my next two aregoing to be about AI and ChatGBT
some interesting stuff.
So we're going to start off withsome good stuff that ChatGBT
has done lately.
Linkedin co founder, reidHoffman, recently shared a viral
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Reddit article where a userclaimed that ChatGBT helped him
resolve a chronic medical issuein under a minute after five
years of unsuccessful treatments.
So, basically, the Reddit userhad experienced persistent jaw
clicking that was likely due toa boxing injury, and they went
to go see specialists, entpeople, they got MRIs and all
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this stuff and then, on a whim,they typed it into ChatGBT and
AI suggested that the jaw discmight be slightly displaced and
movable.
And then they recommended orthe ChatGBT recommended a mouth
opening technique and they didit and within a minute the
entire thing was solved.
And, like he had this five yearissue and he said after five
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years of just living with this,this AI gave me a fix in a
minute Unreal so it.
It sparked people commentinglike you know what they cured
with chat GBT and it's prettyamazing.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Wow, that's actually great.
I mean, I think AI, you ai, youknow, for one, it's here to
stay.
It's not going anywhere, but Ithink, if used correctly, um, I
think it's, it's great, I thinkit's going to help a lot of
things.
Um, you know, even when I do mypostings, um, and I do a lot of
posting on social media, I use,um, you know, I use some
(33:25):
software to help me do that,because there's no way humanly
possible to do that by myself,exactly.
But all but all I use it for isjust scheduling and, you know,
kind of putting it together.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But it's all my material, it's not anything made
totally yeah, my next, my nextarticle is going to go into the
not so good part, parts of it,and so but, for one, like I
think, exactly like I thinkmedical experts will still need
humans around and we still needthe medical experts.
But this kind of stuff isamazing.
Like one thing that I foundChatGVT really good for is like
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meal plans or recipes, and youknow it doesn't replace a
dietician or anything.
But you could really get supergranular and be like I weigh
this much, I'm this tall, youknow I don't like to grocery
shop and also here's, here'swhat I have in the house.
Can you help me?
Like it really is a supercomputer when you almost give it
like those types of things oh,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Like I said, and again, if you use it like a tool
, like what you you're saying,it's great, it's absolutely
great.
But it's when you try to use itto replace a human to do
certain things, I think that'swhen things go haywire.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Exactly, there was one week I think I had like just
come from New York or something, I don't know.
I was in like a good mood and Ijust wanted to like be pampered
and be fancy.
But I so I messaged AI and Iwas like I'm, I don't have like
a huge budget, but I want to eat, like I'm rich this week and
can you help me.
And sure enough, it was likeyou wake up in the day and have
you know, lemon water, like Ibasically said, like I want to
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eat as I'm in a spa, but Icreated myself for the weekend
it it got it perfectly that itwas like speaking to me, like
that, so you can really createyour own dream situation.
Um, now, have you ever messagedchat gbt about any health
things?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I guess you don't need to tell us that, but like
you know what I never have, butI could definitely see that
being a, you know, because Imean, obviously it's not going
to ever replace doctors, but atleast it'll get you in a
direction of, okay, you knowwhat, let's look at this, this,
this and this, or, you know,let's talk about this, so it
gives you something to talkabout when you do go to the
doctor, you know yeah, thatthat's one reason.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like I am, I like I forever tiktok is like my, one
of my like top favorite thingson earth, just because, like the
other day, I had like somesinus blockage and I went on
TikTok and I searched like sinusclearing and sure enough, it's
like all these homemade recipesthat actually work and people
talking about it and stuff thatlike some stuff I already know,
and then some stuff from actualdoctors that are on TikTok and
(35:54):
it's just like it's sointeresting and I think the
visuals of TikTok help me andit's like people recommending
what products they get and Ijust think that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, definitely, definitely me, and it's like
people recommending whatproducts they get and I just
think that's so cool.
Oh, definitely, definitely.
Like I said, I think that um,um, chat, gpt and other ai, uh,
uh, assistance and stuff likethat that's out there, I think,
is going to get better andbetter over time and, um, you
know, as long as they don'tstart trying to attack us like
the alligators I know my nextone we'll hear about.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's my turn again.
We'll hear about the not sogood Evil sides.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
All righty, well, you know what?
Let's talk something fun.
Yeah, have you heard of theWhitney Houston Challenge?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh, yes, the like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yes, yes, yes, oh yes .
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes , I tried to do it last night
and I was woefully wrong Everysingle time.
It is not easy.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You know what's so crazy?
It looks like oh, I can do this, it's so easy, not even
remotely close.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh my god it's so hard.
It feels so far Like it takesso long, but yet you wait too
long.
Then it like comes in.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
It's that perfect timing andyou know.
It also lets you know howtalented she is to hit that
perfect pause, hit that bump andthen go in like there was never
a break exactly that's.
That's talent.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's hard to do well, I guess, if people don't
know what it is, it's uh, it's Iwill always love you, right?
That's the song, like so, it'slike we all know.
I mean if you, if you're ourage, you know the moment when it
like before it's that whole,like it's quiet, then it's like
and uh, you know so.
When the beat drops.
And people are trying to guesswhen the beat drops, I might
pound their, their hand down,and it's funny watching everyone
(37:46):
rush it and do it too soon.
I need to count how manyseconds are exactly there,
because I really wonder.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yes, yes, because it's funny, because as you wait
in there you're thinking you'retiming it right and it's like
real silent for like a matter ofseconds boom and yeah, I'm not
gonna go any further than thatbecause I don't want to scare
people away.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But you know I I was trying it for so many times
yesterday.
It was stressing me out and Igenuinely was making myself
nauseous from like the stress.
I mean I can't.
I can't like ruin my mood overthis and so, um, it's really
tough and it's funny.
It's funny watching people doit.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yes, actually, I would love for our viewers and
our listeners to try the WhitneyHouston challenge.
Let us know how it is.
How did you do?
Share it with us, too, onsocial media.
That'd be kind of fun for ustoo.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I think that's.
I don't know when the song cameout, but I was like either in
middle school or high school, Idon't know.
But I feel bad for my parentshaving to listen to me, probably
in my room, like trying toscream it and I was probably
like upset over some boy orsomething.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Ah, the fun of growing up, huh.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Exactly, exactly.
Well, yeah, we'll definitelyhave to try that.
Okay, I'm going to.
You'll notice that I'm going toskip one and then I'll get back
to that one.
So my next one is going to bethe, as promised, the negative
side of GBT and AI.
Recently, an AI customer servicechatbot made up a company
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policy and created a mess.
When an AI model for a codeediting company cursor
hallucinated a new rule, usersrevolted.
So the AI powered editor cursornoticed something strange.
Machines were like instantlylogging them out, common
workflow was like kind of beingdisrupted and a lot of
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programmers are saying like our,our customer support is acting
really different.
We don't know what's going on.
Um, and then an agent named samyou know sam, in quotation
marks because it's an ai persontold them it was an expected
behavior under a new policy, butno such policy existed.
Sam was a bot.
The ai model made the policy up,sparking a wave of complaints
(39:59):
and cancellation threatsdocumented on Hacker News and
Reddit.
So this marks the latestinstance of AI hallucinations
causing potential businessdamages.
This is, quote, creative gapfilling a response where AI
models invent plausible butfalse sounding information.
So you know, we just talkedabout the medical advancements
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of it.
This can be terrifying, becausecould you imagine if this was
like predicting a surgery orsaying the steps for, like some
you know, a heart monitor orsomething huge?
And this is where the likescary zombie apocalypse could
happen, when AI takes over andjust hallucinates these weird
things just hallucinates theseweird things.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh yeah, and that's the problem is that that's a
great example of using AI toreplace as opposed to help.
It's a difference, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
There was an instance I guess this happened with Air
Canada where the airline's AIagent incorrectly told someone
they could book a regular priceflight and it became a mess.
So it was like it became alegal issue because the AI said
one thing which is not true andthen the yeah.
(41:11):
It's very interesting becausewe've never had stuff like this
before, where it's like if AIdoes something, whose fault is
it?
Is it legal?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Oh, yeah, but here's the thing the AI belongs to that
company, so they're not gettingaway from that legal fault,
Exactly Because, again, you ownthat AI.
So again you can't just let itgo off on its own, because if it
does damage you, the businessowner has to fix it, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Okay, I have some has to fix it Exactly.
Okay, I have some personal teato spill about this.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
This is juicy.
I'm very excited to share this.
Hopefully none of my workclients will be listening, but
you know one of my jobs is Iwrite a lot for different
podcasts and stuff.
And so I promised myself I willnot put it all onto AI, but I
definitely have it help mesometimes.
Some of my clients know this,some of them don't, but like I'm
(42:07):
not hiding it, I will tellanyone at any time, like it will
be my brain.
But I have AI help me Now.
Last week, one of my clients Ihave to admit I was rushing, I
didn't really feel that well, Ihave no excuses, but for
whatever reason, I put anepisode in and it spit out the
show notes for me, ai and thenit went to print and everything
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and I got in big, big troublebecause AI made up like all
these laws for, like, it justmade up these show notes and I,
without checking, I copied andpasted them in and it's for a
client that has a lot of likelegal things and it ended up
becoming a really has a lot oflike legal things and it ended
up becoming a really big.
I got in big trouble and like Inever I feel like I never like
mess up at work or I never likeyou know for like the first time
(42:49):
ever I was in trouble,basically, and I felt really bad
and AI, I couldn't believe itand I then I was typing to it
I'm like how can you do this tome?
And so I said explain why youdid this, I don't understand.
And it said, oh, I just thoughtthe laws that were already
mentioned in this podcastepisode seemed like this was the
(43:10):
inevitable next step for thecompany, and so it just made it
really like, ratted me out.
And it made up laws about stuffthat was happening in like
Arkansas and Kansas City thatwere not true at all.
And then it was my idiocy thatI didn't double check it.
So one of my friends I wastalking to like a journalist
friend and he was saying youalways, always have to tell AI
(43:30):
like, be factual, be truthful,don't make stuff up.
And he was like you have to saythis, otherwise it's happening
to people left and right whereit will just make stuff up.
But I felt so bad last week Ihonestly had like a pit in my
stomach because people were likemad at me and it was a whole
big thing wow so you literallyhave to tell ai, okay, do not
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lie, be factual exactlyespecially when it comes to
these things especially.
Like I feel like it couldsummarize pretty well.
Like it could summarize, I feellike if it was to make the show
notes, I feel like it couldsummarize pretty well, like it
could.
I feel like if it was to makethe show notes for for us it
wouldn't just make us stuff upwhat we're talking about, but
when it's like history or lawthings, or like this was a lot
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about bills being passed andlike, uh, congress and stuff, it
just made, it made it up out ofthin air.
It was crazy.
And so my clients were like,where did you even get this from
?
And then, not only did I haveto admit that I wasn't
proofreading, but I had to admitthat I was using AI, which was
very embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Ooh, okay, that's some tea.
Yes, yes, well, I think welearned a lesson about using AI,
right?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Exactly so the lesson and we all make mistakes and
like this is just, this is a newfrontier that we're all
learning, and like I never wouldhave thought that it would pull
stuff out of thin air and justmake it up.
So that's just.
Heed my warning from otherpeople at my mistakes be your
lessons.
Where just you can, you know,just always ask is this truthful
, is this from the transcript?
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And you know, now I'm going toask it like please triple check
that everything mentioned herewas correct.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And the scary thing is it probably looked really
real too.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh, it completely did , which is why I just sent it
along.
I didn't like, honestly, evenif I reread it, I don't even
know if I would have caught it,because in my mind it just was
like, okay, this seems likeeverything else that they've
talked about.
It's not like an industry thatI know about a lot.
So I just kind of moved forwardwith it.
Wow, and I apologized to myclients and they never wrote
back.
No problem, it's okay.
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So they're still mad at me.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
They'll be okay, they'll forgive you.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Exactly, it's not life or death.
I'm not fixing anyone's jawissues, so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
There you go.
Talk about fixing.
Now I'm quite sure everyoneknows who Lizzo is.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Lizzo just announced, and actually if you get back
pictures and videos, she justshed 16% of her body fat.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And she also reduced her BMI points BMI is body mass
index by 10 points, which ishuge.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That is huge.
That's like half a personalmost.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So I commend it.
And you know some people aregiving her a hard time because
she was like, well, you wasalways pushing body image.
You know you're you're sellingout by losing all this weight.
And that's not true, becauseyou know she may have did it for
her.
She did it for herself, youknow.
Yeah, it could have beenmedical, we don't know but I
(46:41):
think the message she tried toget across and I think she even
touched on this is that you knowshe's talking about being being
happy in your own skin.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Regardless of what body type you're in.
That's what that means, youknow, because I know she was on
Saturday Night Live, she hadperformed on there.
You know, uh, because I knowshe was on saturday night live,
she had performed on there and,um, you know, like I said, you
know, I I commend her.
You know, she, yeah, you knowshe didn't.
And, uh, in the article shesaid that, uh, she did not use
any any, uh, weight loss surgeryor anything like that.
She just basically, um, youknow, washed her meals um,
(47:18):
reduced stress.
A lot of people don't realize,yeah, because you know I'm a lot
better now, but I used tostress eat, in other words, when
I get stressed out.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I would eat, oh my gosh, especially at night, right
, but I?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
would eat the absolute wrong things at the
wrong times, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, and potato chips at night are like the most
.
And you know, a cheeseburger at11 30 at night probably isn't
the greatest oh no, and it's socrazy because, like, we eat
these things to make us feelbetter but then they end up
making us feel even then it addsmore problems than what we even
have you know.
But yeah, I really likedefinitely grapple with
(47:56):
nighttime eating and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
so I tip my hat off to her and, uh, I say if you're
going to do something, do it foryourself, because it doesn't
matter what you say or do.
It's crazy, but it's alwaysgoing to be somebody out there
that's got something to say.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Exactly Wait.
So she didn't say anythingabout like she didn't use like
Ozempic or Manjaro or anything.
Really, oh my gosh, see, that'ssurprising Cause.
Like I would not judge her forit at all, but she seems like
someone that like right off thegate, would like would do that
because I know, I know in a in agood way, she like, I feel like
she like came on the scene andwas body positive but then I
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feel like she just you knowpeople are allowed to change and
I feel like she probably alsogot done.
Didn't really love always beinglike all people talked about
was her weight and like you knowthe fat, you know she sings and
she's fat, like I'm sure shewas kind of making a mockery of
herself and at one pointprobably didn't really like it,
and I think I think good for her.
She has the right everyone hasthe right to feel good about
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their body and how they look, nomatter what?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh, I agree, I agree.
Like I said, I tip my hat offto her, you know, whatever makes
her happy, I don't think it'sanyone's business, you know.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Exactly, and.
I feel like like women likeMeghan Trainor, I know, got a
lot of flack as well, cause Ithink she did go on some like
Monjorno or something, and shesaid she said, yes, I've been on
this and people are like, ohyeah, but you have these songs
like all about the base and youknow you're you didn't like, you
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actually didn't like beingoverweight and it's like no,
maybe they liked it at a certainpoint, but then when you that's
like, when that becomes yourwhole identity to other people,
maybe you are like, okay, thatwas this time of my life.
Now I'm ready for the next time.
Like I've definitely had timeswhere I'm kind of like happy to
be a big back or something, andthen other times I'm like, no, I
think this is actually not me.
So we have the right to kind ofchange how we view our own
selves and our bodies.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Absolutely.
I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Okay, my last one is the power of book talk.
Why book talks book communityis driving a new era in
publishing.
Now, yesterday when I wasshopping in Target, I actually
saw we were by the book sectionand I saw excuse me, I saw a
shelf that was devoted toBookTok, which is books that are
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just popular on TikTok and fromthe TikTok community, and I
thought that is so crazy thatnow it's made its way to like a
huge display at Target pushingit.
So that just shows the power ofbook talk, which has
accumulated 370 billion viewsand over 52 million creations
jumping on board.
Um, everything from bestsellersto little independent authors.
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Uh, book talk thrives oncommunity driven content, so
it's a lot of reviews frompeople, people just sharing book
recommendations.
It's kind of like a book club,but you know, a really big one
and I think that's so cool.
Like I've ordered a few booksthat I've seen on BookTok.
I think it's getting a littletough because it's almost
getting now just how everythingelse does, where now people are
(50:55):
getting like paid to say theiropinion and you know, now it's
like the big people are comingin.
But I think it's super cool.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
I mean it is.
I mean it just also shows thatyou know reading is still a fun
thing that some people like todo, you know it really is now do
you read books?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
that's so funny that I said that like that you know I
probably should, but I reallydon't.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I I read a lot of stuff, obviously.
You know social media,obviously.
But you know I read otherarticles.
You know business relatedarticles, stuff like that going
on in the news.
So do I read books?
I haven't read a quote unquotebook lately.
I still read every day, but Ijust read digitally now, day by,
just read digitally now.
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But you know the other thingtoo, what I like about that,
about that particular segmentthere is I love the fact that
you are to be able to getcertain books that you can't get
now, especially with all thecrazy things going on with
telling people what they can andcan't read.
Yes, yes, I think that's a greatway to circumvent that, you
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know that's very true, that'sabsolutely true.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Now, I always try I'm I'm so bad at like, if I have
extra time I'll just go tosocial media again and check and
check it.
But I'm trying to like I havean actual physical book, book
like right next to me that I andevery now and then I'll just
say, okay, I'm just going toread like four pages today and
then, sure enough, it's likeonce you turn off all the
distractions and you get reallyimmersed in your book and you
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start thinking about it.
But I'm trying to like I haveto physically have a book next
to me and remind myself activelyto go to it instead of checking
like TikTok for the 80th time.
But once I'm reading like andI'm also not ashamed Like I read
stuff that is probably meantfor like 21-year-old women.
You know like I read a lot ofthe beachy reads and romance
stuff.
But to me, like, if you're justreading in general, like I
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think reading a handheld book isso good for you, no matter what
it is.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
I mean, the one thing about itis that it opens up so much
imagination.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
You know a good book and this happened to me.
You know you get immersed inreading something.
You're in that story.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
It really is it like soothes your brain?
I feel like it really calms ournervous system.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Oh, definitely, definitely, Something that I
think that probably should bepushed a lot more, more than it
is right now.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, I also think anytime I work at a coffee shop,
I feel like a person sittingout in public and just reading
and looking unbothered is likethe next level of cool, like I
don't know, just look so Frenchor something.
So I feel like I always wantedto be like the type of person
that just sits somewhere andreads a book and I'm like, oh,
I'm too busy, I can't do that.
I'm like, no, it turns out Iactually can be, you know like
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for eight minutes a day orsomething.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But yeah, I think the book talk is really cool and
there's something for everyone,like you said, where, like, for
me it's kind of the romance, youknow, whatever easy to read
things.
But for other people they wantto read more like politically
engaging books or just morethoughtful books, and I love it.
I think it's a great place forauthors to come and do some free
advertising.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Absolutely.
I agree on that.
Talk about free advertising.
What do you have coming up,Meryl?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Oh yeah, Thank you.
May 2nd I will be at a place inDana Point and then then I'm
going to push my.
The show I really want to pushis May 28th at the La Jolla
Comedy Store, so I'll bepromoting that for a while.
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May 28th Comedy Store.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Perfect, perfect and this show every day, nice.
I hope everyone gets out thereto support Merle.
We definitely appreciate thatand thank you for supporting our
show.
As we're doing, we're trying togrow and bring on more
(54:57):
entertainment, more creativethings.
Anything that you would likefor us to talk about in
particular?
Definitely let us know.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
And, like I said, stay engaged.
Keep having those thirstytopics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Take care everyone.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Bye-bye.
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lauren Zellrod.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey Meryl, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am so good the sun is out.
Here in California We've hadone day without a fire or an
earthquake.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Or a tsunami.
Yeah, we're good.
Today is good.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Nice, nice Talk about good.
I don't know if a lot of peopleknow this or not, but it was
just revealed that Birdman andToni Braxton had a secret
wedding last year in August.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So cute.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So what was interesting is, I want to say,
within a day or two, maybe evena week, they filed for divorce.
Oh, and then you know, theyreconciled and everything's fine
now.
But now you know, I guesspeople are saying they're not
wearing, they're wearing theirwedding rings anymore, they're
(01:15):
not together, so it's not reallysure, um, whether they're still
together or not, if they'rehaving issues, if they work
their issues out or not.
I don't know.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh no, I think Toni Braxton, when you say that she
goes, remember a few weeks agowe talked about En Vogue and
kind of like how they're doing.
I feel like mentally I put Toniin like the En Vogue category.
Now I may be completely wrongand she may be like selling out
amphitheaters left and right andstill touring very heavily, but
I feel like I think of her assomeone that's wonderful, who I
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love so much, but like maybe isdoing casinos and is maybe not
selling out like she used to.
So in a good way, I feel likewe've.
She hasn't been in theheadlines, to my knowledge, over
the past couple of years, so Ifeel like, in a good way, she's
kept this whatever is going onpretty private.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I know they've beendating for a while and then they
broke it off and then got backtogether.
And then I was checking mynotes and I noticed that when
they divorced it was literallydays after they got married and
then reconciled after that.
But I don't know.
I mean it kind of goes back towhat we talked about as far as
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um relationships in hollywood,you know, whether they really
work out or not.
I mean, I know it's verydifficult, but I would kind of
think that, being that both ofthem are in their 50s, they
would kind of know what theywant.
Or am I being a little bit toooptimistic?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
um no, I think you're being completely realistic and
I I also just looked at birdmanand like good for him if that is
his desired look, I love that.
But I did not know that.
Her husband looked like that.
He has like a bunch of tattooson his face and imagine, like I
just think about getting thosetattoos when you're in your 20s
or 30s or whatever, and then allof a sudden now like being 50
(03:04):
or 60 and like regretting thatmaybe he doesn't at all.
But um no, I also think too,maybe the weight of getting
married sometimes.
I think it happens a lot oftimes where, like on their
wedding night, a lot of coupleswill just kind of be like, oh my
god, what did I do?
You know the whole thing wasleading up to it.
I feel like a lot of timespeople are excited about the
wedding and excited about theidea of getting married and then
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all of a sudden you do and likeone thing happens and maybe you
find out something that you'relike wait what?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's true.
That's true.
I mean with the stardom, theirbusy schedules, there's a whole
lot that goes on.
I mean mean birdman obviouslydoes a lot in front of the mic
and behind the mic as well, sohe's pretty busy.
So I could see how sometimesyou could get that kind of crazy
(03:53):
.
But I would have to say, todivorce after a couple days,
then get back together kind ofmakes you wonder, um, you know
if, if, if they should havemaybe I don't know taken a
little slower, maybe weddingcounseling before they got
married yeah yeah, and again,this is from the outside,
(04:16):
looking in.
Obviously we don't know what,what happened to bring all this
to to pass, but it justbasically makes you just just
wonder, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You're right, and I was going to say like cause.
Remember when this happenedwith Kim Kardashian, I thought
she was married to ChrisHumphries, or something, for
like four days or like 17 days.
And I feel like that'sunderstandable when you're in
your twenties and it's like youdo things impulsively, like
Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee,and you just meet and fall in
love.
But I think when you're in your40s and 50s now I feel too
(04:47):
tired to like go through allthat.
It would take me a year just toget divorced because I takes me
a long time to do a chore.
But, um, yeah, I agree with youand I wonder too.
It's like you probably havewith these two people.
You probably have reallypassionate artist type people.
So it's like if one thing goeswrong, I can see it being like
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the wedding's off.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
you know we're done.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, as you get older too,you do get a little bit set in
your ways, whether you realizeit or not.
So, oh yeah, who knows what itis, but we'll definitely be
watching.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Exactly, toni Braxton is 57 and also she is an
example of people that are hotat any age because she looks
beautiful.
That is so true.
She's cool, and it says thatshe was married before Keri
Lewis, married 2001 to 2013.
So it's like you took all thistime off and then you got
married again a decade later.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, you need a little bit of a break exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I don't, luckily, like.
I don't know any people likethat in my life.
I think everyone all my friendsare like not too poor, but it
takes a long time to plan awedding.
So by the time you plan it,you're pretty sure that you want
to like stick with it at leastfor a month.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, we'll see.
Oh, okay, I'm digging back intoanother iconic woman and I'm so
excited about this one.
Okay, so Tyra Banks, our girlTyra Banks, wants to bring
immersive theater to a local icecream, her local ice cream shop
, which I just think.
This is so cool.
So here's some of the details.
It's called Smize and Dreams.
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You know, we know Tyra for likeher smizing on America's Top
Model, of course, smiling withyour eyes, and I didn't know
that she lives in Australia now,and so Tyra was just on the
Today Show and she was talkingabout what her life is like now
that she moved to Sydney, andthis was, in part, to launch her
ice cream brand, smize andDreams.
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She was saying that she justdecided to make the leap, and
her approach to this, which Ilove so much, is she wants it to
be an immersive experiencewhere the workers, the people
that work there, the employees,are like theater.
You know you could do basicallyyou're acting out a role.
So she said one employee couldbe like in wicked, acting out a
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scene, and another employee canbe like doing a shakespeare
moment.
Um, I guess you'd have to geteveryone on the same page,
otherwise that would look prettychaotic.
If someone is like in a jamesbond moment.
But uh, she hopes to bring itto america in 2026.
One of the first pop-ups uh forin australia is going to be at
the sydney harbor, and I thinkthis is amazing.
(07:32):
Like I am fully excited forthis.
I would love to go try out someflavors and just see.
Like I wish more employees wereable to just kind of act how
their you know personality is,as long as they're doing a good
job.
And also, like I just feel likeice cream needs to be fun again
, and I think this is a greatway to do it, because I think so
many shops are just kind ofbland and I feel like you know
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back in the day, more ice creamparlor type vibe.
So I love this.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think it's a great way for people to get discovered
.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, because it's a great way for people to get
discovered, because it'sactually a great idea and a
number of ways the the.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The one way is I can see the ice cream shop doing
really well on areas that have atheater district like New York.
Um over in California, you knowall the theater districts me
scooping and smizing, there yougo, and then Chicago has a has a
good, healthy theater district.
You'll be catching me scoopingand smizing.
There you go, and then chicagohas a has a good, healthy, uh
theater district as well.
I see that doing very well, Ithink.
If it was, if it's donecorrectly, I think it'd be a
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huge hit me too.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Me too, I want and this has the making of, maybe
she's also planning like anotherreality type show, because this
also seems like something thatshould have its own channel, and
like the drama of the ice creamshop.
Um, yes, I think that's reallycool that she lives in Australia
as well, and I feel like Iwould trust Tyra with coming up
with some really ridiculous andgood flavors.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I wonder what made her move to Australia, though.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I know I wonder if it's like taxes or something,
also something that was funnythat I didn't see anyone comment
this year.
But I feel like a lot of youknow, over the years she kind of
has gotten a little bit of likebacklash for america's next top
model, just because a lot of itwas very severe on the models
about their weight and you knowthere's like a lot of clips kind
of saying stuff to her.
But I think that's funny thatnow her brand is going to be
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more ice cream, because I feellike the tyra of last decade
would have told the girls to layoff the ice cream and yeah,
it's totally opposite from whatyou know.
The show exactly, exactly,exactly, and I've seen even
people you know I I think thatwas what was happening back then
and I I feel like she wouldn'tbe the same now.
It's like we all learn and grow, so I'm not, I'm not holding
(09:43):
that against her today.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
But you know what, if they did bring it to the States
, and they brought it to Chicago, yeah, I would get some ice
cream and go there to watch alittle mini show.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I know, but but I could also see.
I feel like it would have to dolike wizard of oz and someone
is doing like annie yeah, thatwould look a little weird right,
yeah, but I think it's cool andI think it provides.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I wish there was more just uh, excitement around fun
brands like ice cream maybeshe's trying it over there just
to test the waters first beforebringing to the states maybe
yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, she thinks she's gonna do it for a year
there and before bringing it tothe States, maybe yeah, that's
what she said she thinks she'sgoing to do it for a year there
and then bring it to the US.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, I am looking forward to have some of that ice
cream.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Me too.
I want to smize all day longthere you go, there you go, talk
about interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Do you remember the movie the Sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, do you remember the little boy that had the
classic line?
You know, I see dead people, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No, I said I see ghosts.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh no that was I see dead people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Was it dead people?
It's been so long.
Yes, I see dead people, unlessit's like a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Mandela effect and they changed it.
But as far as I know I thinkit's I See Dead People.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yes, you're right, I See Dead People.
Well, you know.
Obviously that's an old movie,so he's an adult now.
Well, he was arrested forintoxication.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And you know he was kind of acting belligerent.
Oh no, he issued an apologysaying that he felt really bad.
(11:42):
That's not him.
You know basically all people.
You know he loves everyone, hedoesn't hate anyone or anything
like that.
I guess my question is when yousee a star because, if you
think about it, mel Gibson hadthe same issue years ago, the
real anti-Semitic stuff he wassaying, I mean it was like
(12:03):
really out there, and then theysober up and go oh you know what
, I was drunk, I didn't meanthat.
What is your take on that?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean I feel like there's no amount of alcohol
someone could like pour down mythroat to have me start saying
mean things like that, you know.
And so I mean I think I feellike day to day he's probably
when he's sober he probablyisn't a terrible, terrible
person and maybe he, maybe hedoes think some like weird dark
things, and it just came out Ihave I also bet he's going
through kind of maybe some toughtimes, which is like absolutely
(12:34):
not an excuse, but I feel, likeanyone like that, you have to
be kind of like out of it tobegin with.
So I feel like it's not like amental breakdown, but it's
almost like a weird likedivvying off.
I don't even know.
Did he say mean things aboutyour people or my people, or all
the people?
I don't even know what categoryhe was insulting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I have to take a look and see, because I don't want
to misquote it, but it wasdefinitely a derogatory
statement that he made.
Derogatory statement that hemade, wow, it was offensive.
But I don't know.
I guess to me alcohol is like atruth serum.
Yeah, you ever been out withsomeone or been around someone
that goes oh you know, I didn'tmean anything, I said that was
(13:18):
the alcohol talking.
I'm a firm believer thatalcohol is a truth serum.
Alcohol gives some people thecourage to say what they would
never say.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
If they didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, and it's like deep in their subconscious.
I feel like there's beenmoments where, if you drink, you
could start saying bad thingsabout like the person in general
not, but like to insult anentire race or gender or creed.
That has to be going on in yourmind, you know what I mean,
because I can see getting into afight with like someone and
being like you're annoying,you're stupid, you're whatever,
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but like to just start sayingslurs, seems so weird.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I think personally,when a person and depending on
how bad it is like I say, youknow, if you say, hey, dude,
you're stupid, I don't like you,or whatever, that's one thing.
But then when you start goinginto the, the attacks on on a
particular group of people, oreven gender or anything like
that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
To me maybe that was inside of that person and that
alcohol gave them that courageto say it out loud there's going
to be too many jokes about himseeing dead careers and him not
seeing black people, which iscrazy too, because I think he
was one of the stars in my mindthat I hadn't heard a lot about
(14:39):
him.
It seemed like he had survivedbeing a child star in a good way
, he seemed to be someone thatto me.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I thought he had a good head on his shoulders, but
I wonder I have to look it up,but it wasn't anything racial or
anything like that.
But it was definitely veryoffensive though.
Oh my gosh and you know, againyou apologize, you know that's
not him, that's not hischaracter, but it just makes you
want that yeah character, butit just makes you want that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I feel like he's going to do what every Hollywood
person then does, which ischeck himself in for exhaustion
and go to rehab.
You know what I mean?
The PR book is always the same.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe he'll get help, but that is sad and weird.
The Mel Gibson thing was crazyHim on the floor with hamburger
dripping out of his mouth,talking about Jewish people and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, thank God he wasn't that out of it, cause I
mean Mel.
Gibson way, I mean I was likeway over the top.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, and then remember Michael Richards from
free or from Seinfeld Kramer.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
When that happened, that was another one too, yeah.
And it's like these people justlike snap and it's it's so
weird.
But you know what's so crazyabout that and I know we're a
little bit off subject, but youknow the guy from kramer when he
did that, you know, and andagain, it's not unusual for
people to go and heckle acomedian.
(16:00):
It's some people get off on.
It's just stupidity, but youknow it happens from time to
time, you know.
But when he talked aboutHanging someone from a tree,
that's crazy.
It was like way, way over thetop.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I know, and to even go there you have to already be
in such a weird place, you'realready at an 8 or a 9, and to
get there at a 10 Is so weird.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm sorry there's.
I mean, I guess, as a person ofcolor, there's no amount of
apology that you can say,because that's what I was going
to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So like, what, like what could haley joel osmond do
nothing like?
Would he just go away for awhile?
Is that what like what youwould advise him on?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I think what he's probably going to do is keep a
low pro and then he'll come back, because I don't even think
he's doing anything in Hollywoodnow, is he?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I haven't seen anything Not that I heard of.
Yeah, not that I heard of.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So I mean, looks like he's living a good life and
just got drunk and said somestupid stuff, but thank God it
wasn't like Kramer.
I mean, that was just, and thefunny thing about it is, from
what I hear you know, he hasgood relationships with black
comedians, so that actually madeit even worse.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
like I know, I know I don't get that, I just don't
get that yeah, but that was likeway over the top.
I was stunned when, when hesaid that yeah, me too, and the
only thing that I feel, like hehe did at the time too was just
basically having to say likesorry, I'm so depressed, I'll
like go get mental help, and youknow, you can't really just say
(17:33):
whoopsies or, you know, like Idon't know.
It does seem like, with allthese things, drugs and alcohol
seem to be heavily involved inthis.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, but I mean when he went that dark?
I don't know and I could bewrong, but I think that was in
his heart for him to go thatdark, because he's not the only
person that's ever been heckledand probably will not be the
last.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right.
Why can't they just be normal?
Anytime I get buzzed, I justlook at my ex-boyfriends on
Facebook.
I don't think bad thoughtsabout it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now the funny thing is, there's some comedians that
you might not want to do thatwith, because they'll be like,
oh okay, and you're going to bepart of the show.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Because I've seen that happen too.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh yeah, exactly yeah , seen that happen too.
Oh yeah, exactly yeah.
And then, as you're watching,you're going.
Why did he do that?
Yep, nope, but in, like in, Ithink it's hayley joel, I think
that's his name.
Like in his case, that that hasto suck too, because especially
when, like it's not like, he'sin a movie premiere next week,
like that's going to be in hisnews cycle for a while, you know
(18:41):
.
So it's like now you, if, if Iwas his publicist, I'd be like
what the heck?
Like now you, if I was hispublicist, I'd be like what the
heck.
We barely get any storiesalready, and now we're dealing
with this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, I do commend him for coming out right away to
apologize, though he didn'twait to do that, so that was a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know him at all, but he seems like someone
that would feel bad and wouldfeel bad.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But yes, yes, still very odd, super weird, yeah,
that's true.
So okay, merle, so you know,don't go out drinking the same
crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, I was gonna say I won't I turn into more
demonic on myself.
I would be like not about otherpeople, just more myself.
Um, but yeah, I would probablylike, like I said, if I was, I
don't drink, I hardly, hardly,hardly drink.
But if I was ever to go haywireit would be like probably more
about like just one person, itwouldn't be about like an entire
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you know, sector of people, butum yeah yeah, I'm taking a look
here and what he did was, um,he made a, uh, anti-semitic slur
.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And what he did was he made an anti-Semitic slur Aye
, aye aye While he was beingarrested by the police.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's so weird, which is already like.
Once again, as a Jewish person,I'm like, yeah, I mean, we
already know anti-Semitism isalways on the rise, but it's
just crazy, yeah, especiallywhen people do it, they know
better exactly, and I hate toremind him that hollywood is run
by lots of jewish people, sohe's barking up the wrong tree
(20:11):
if he's gonna like make a bunchof jewish agents mad and
everything yes, he better becareful about that, because that
is true for real like everylawyer agent, you know,
publishing person that, like heworks with, I'm sure is not
happy with it, but oh well, umwell, one deal he won't be
getting, like with many otherpeople, is the Red Robin
(20:32):
bottomless burger, because thisI don't even know about.
This I don't I actually don'teven know if we have Red Robin
where I am.
But, um, they had a bottomlessburger pass and it crashed the
website.
Customers call it a scam.
One person said it wasliterally easier to get tickets
to Taylor Swift than it is forme to get a Red Robin burger
pass.
Wow, so excuse me, coughing upa storm.
(20:57):
On April 17th, the chain's $20bottomless burger pass, which
give holders a burger servedwith bottomless sides during the
month of may, went on sale.
Uh, there were so many sold outin moments that it just like
was rerouting people.
The page was crashing, everyonewas setting up alarm, an alarm
and it just like was completely,you know, it got too much
(21:18):
traffic and it basically crashed.
And then people said, uh, theydon't believe red robin, because
red robin said like, oh yeah,we did have a lot of purchases,
but, like we don't know how many, we're still counting it and
I'm like this isn't an election.
You know like you should havethe the stats right then.
And there, um, someone said redrobin has probably never had,
(21:38):
more than four years, four userson their site at the same time,
so they weren't ready for this,which is like super funny.
Now another person said theydid get through, but then they
showed that the purchase pageshowed a subtotal of $680 when
it's just supposed to be a $20purchase.
So Red Robin apologized for themayhem and they're just saying
(22:00):
like we're working to get itbetter.
It seems like just kind of anightmare situation.
I also feel like the bottomlessburger.
I mean, I guess that's a gooddeal to get free sides,
unlimited sides, that seems likea good deal.
I thought it meant like you getone burger like all you can eat
burgers, which would probablybe even more.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
When I first heard that, that's what I thought too,
because there's Red Robins inthe area where I'm at Right now.
With the Red Robins, you getunlimited fries.
You can get as many refills onfries as possible.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
This sounds like they're adding other stuff
besides fries to it, yeah, whichis cool if it's unlimited
mozzarella sticks or salad oryou know what I mean.
I'm sure whatever sides it iscan be exciting, but like I
definitely feel, like I mean youbetter get your money's worth.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I'm a little surprised at their website.
Their website crashed, though.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It said, after 12 seconds the whole website
crashed and they had millions ofpeople going on Like.
I think they also should haveThought ahead, like anything
like this is gonna get a hugeamount of traffic and I just
don't get it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So what did they?
So what you have to do?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
sign up for some kind of Groupon or some kind of Now
they said good luck, we'll getto you when we get to you.
And basically Now they saidgood luck, we'll get to you when
we get to you.
And basically they're going tohold a contest where like a few
people can win this as well.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But that's going to be like a handful of people out
of millions of people.
Okay, not the greatestpromotion in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Exactly, and I'm looking now at some of the sides
Like as much as I want to pay$20 for like a never-ending
steamed broccoli, it's justthere's not really.
You know, there's like quesofondido and then garlic parmesan
broccoli, but also the sidesare not that poppin'.
There's mac and cheese, garlicfries, but I thought it was
better.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So there's really nothing over the top.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Exactly.
It's not like a baked potato ormozzarella sticks or anything
like that.
So I mean, not that I'm beingpicky about it, but um yeah, I
thought it was like a bottomlessburger meaning that's what I
thought too yeah wow, I guesspeople really want those sides,
with all the uh, the pricesgoing on now, huh exactly it's
like for 20.
Just buy like 100 potatoes andhowever runny that would be, and
(24:21):
just make some fries that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
People getting upset as well.
It's just ridiculous.
I think, Red Robin, this onlybrings them more issues.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yes, that's true.
Let's hope they fix theirproblem and don't take
themselves out of business.
Exactly they need to get.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Haley Joel Osment as their new spokesperson.
There you go.
Well, let's hope they fix theirproblem and don't take
themselves out of business.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
right, exactly, they need to get Haley Joel Osment as
their new spokesperson.
There you go.
Talk about crazy.
And this is another reason whyI will never move to Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It's actually going viral now, but there is an
alligator that was climbing upthe side of a door and was
ringing the doorbell.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, no no, and then as he slid down, I guess his
buddy came.
You know, there was anotheralias.
There's two alligators insomeone's front door oh so I
guess some of the people in theneighborhood was saying well,
it's mating season right now.
They're looking for a warm,cozy spot to mate.
I'm thinking they pickedsomeone's house, seriously.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think that's kind of cute.
I guess maybe because it's noton my driveway, but I feel like
I would let them in and takethem on as pets.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't know, like I said before, anytime I have to
go out and protect somethingthat won't eat my dog or
something like that, yeah, yeah,I might not want to live there.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I know it's so.
It's so annoying and sad thatalligators and crocodiles can't
be nice because I think they'reso cute.
It's like the same things ashippos, where it's like why
can't they just be our friend,Like.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You like the deadly animals?
I see I do I do.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's so tragic that they would like chop me up in a
second Because, like, I thinkalligators are so cute or I
don't know which one is moresmiley, the alligator or the
crocodile, but there's one thatone of the two looks a little
bit more like happy and theyhave like a rounded face.
But I mean that is just crazy.
Here around here we have likebears and mountain lions that
(26:25):
get on people's properties, butalligators are like look, if you
walk outside and you're notpaying attention, it could be
blending in with the grass, itcould be by your pool.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's outside your house.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean not alligators , but my friends have had a
mountain lion on her house.
Okay, yeah, like her ringcamera.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What part of California?
That way I make sure I don'tcome there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, I'm just kidding the people here are the scariest
part in most of Hollywood.
But like, yeah, my friend onthe ring camera would just have
a mountain lion like walk acrossit and it would show like
motion detected and it wouldjust be like a big random
mountain lion walking, just walk, walking, just casually.
(27:11):
Yeah, but I think alligatorsare so cute.
But yeah, if I had a dog and itwas happening to me that there
was ringing the doorbell, Iwould.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I would not do it yeah, so just make sure we look
before we walk out.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And I would also think you know like we keep our
windows open a lot.
I mean, I know in Florida youprobably have an AC on, but also
sometimes you want to open thewindow and an alligator probably
could just like chomp through ascreen.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I would never open a window.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I couldn't live like that.
I could be just in AC all thetime.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I think I would be a little bit terrified to go
to sleep with windows up,Because I could just imagine
just waking up and, you know,someone just saying hello.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, no, it's freaky .
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes, that was, but I still.
I mean, I think it's a littlescary that an alligator is
climbing up the side of a doorin the first place.
So it's like, were they goingfor something and they just
happened to ring the bell, ordid they really know how to ring
the doorbell?
Either way it's kind of scary,you know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It is.
It's freaky too, because it'slike we like to just think of
them in the water or just kindof basking in the sunshine.
The fact that they could climband like those little hands are
just so weird.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I remember this story.
I don't know if we talked aboutit on our show or not, but it
was this I think we did thiswoman who just started working,
I think, at some kind of zoo orsomething, and they were feeding
the baboons and you know, youhave to put, put it in, make
(28:47):
sure that the baboons are back.
And there was one that was alittle bit the bowl was a little
bit further in.
She was the the new zookeeper.
She was new.
She was going to reach her handin to grab it and the other
zookeeper grabbed her and saiddon't ever do that again.
And we just bend over and takea look and there was a baboon
(29:08):
sitting there waiting.
No, I'm sorry, not a baboon, achimpanzee that was sitting
there waiting and they said thatthe chimpanzee because they're
a lot like human as far as thefingers, emotions, showing
facial expressions, and itlooked like the chimpanzee was
(29:29):
disappointed that the zookeeperthe new zookeeper, you know
didn't reach her hand in there,because you know they can
literally rip your arm off,literally.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You know they're incredibly strong, but it's also
kind of scary that that's smart, though.
You know, I know, and they seemlike devilish in the way that
they know that something wouldbe bad and hurtful and if
they're in a bad mood they woulddo that like.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They do seem like they have some like vengeance
yeah, but I mean it's kind ofscary to think that.
Okay, what would have happenedif that other zookeeper wasn't
around to grab her and stop herfrom reaching her hand in there?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh, that is so freaky .
And yeah, I mean, I've seenclips where they try to pull
their leg and even if they'renot trying to be malicious, they
like grab onto their leg andnever let go and then all you
get is a few biting and grabbingand it can be really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, but the idea that that chimpanzee actually
looked disappointed, that's kindof evil, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Exactly.
See, I don't find them half ascute as alligators, I'd rather
have like a million.
I feel like if alligators werecuddly I would have four just
crawling around right here.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Just mental note do not put your hands in any animal
cages.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Exactly Never, ever, ever.
I barely like.
I'm such a dog person.
I love dogs so much but now inmy adult years, honestly, when
I'm on a walk, I don't even like.
If a dog comes up to me, ofcourse I will like very happily
pet it, or I'll always askpermission to pet it, but I
don't really even go up to likeany animal without just like the
right invitation.
(31:12):
I used to be way more like goingup to dogs and just saying hi,
but I feel like I'm way morelike giving every animal their
space.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, that's true, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's the problem, especially on walks and
everything.
So yeah, if you see analligator crawling on your
neighbor's lawn, say something.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I feel like that should be like a ring camera
commercial.
They should make that forFlorida or something I don't
know.
They need to do something withthat.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know what?
That'd be a great commercial.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, like you never know who's going to be there,
okay, well, my next two aregoing to be about AI and ChatGBT
some interesting stuff.
So we're going to start off withsome good stuff that ChatGBT
has done lately.
Linkedin co founder, reidHoffman, recently shared a viral
(32:02):
Reddit article where a userclaimed that ChatGBT helped him
resolve a chronic medical issuein under a minute after five
years of unsuccessful treatments.
So, basically, the Reddit userhad experienced persistent jaw
clicking that was likely due toa boxing injury, and they went
to go see specialists, entpeople, they got MRIs and all
(32:24):
this stuff and then, on a whim,they typed it into ChatGBT and
AI suggested that the jaw discmight be slightly displaced and
movable.
And then they recommended orthe ChatGBT recommended a mouth
opening technique and they didit and within a minute the
entire thing was solved.
And, like he had this five yearissue and he said after five
(32:46):
years of just living with this,this AI gave me a fix in a
minute Unreal so it.
It sparked people commentinglike you know what they cured
with chat GBT and it's prettyamazing.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Wow, that's actually great.
I mean, I think AI, you ai, youknow, for one, it's here to
stay.
It's not going anywhere, but Ithink, if used correctly, um, I
think it's, it's great, I thinkit's going to help a lot of
things.
Um, you know, even when I do mypostings, um, and I do a lot of
posting on social media, I use,um, you know, I use some
(33:25):
software to help me do that,because there's no way humanly
possible to do that by myself,exactly.
But all but all I use it for isjust scheduling and, you know,
kind of putting it together.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But it's all my material, it's not anything made
totally yeah, my next, my nextarticle is going to go into the
not so good part, parts of it,and so but, for one, like I
think, exactly like I thinkmedical experts will still need
humans around and we still needthe medical experts.
But this kind of stuff isamazing.
Like one thing that I foundChatGVT really good for is like
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meal plans or recipes, and youknow it doesn't replace a
dietician or anything.
But you could really get supergranular and be like I weigh
this much, I'm this tall, youknow I don't like to grocery
shop and also here's, here'swhat I have in the house.
Can you help me?
Like it really is a supercomputer when you almost give it
like those types of things oh,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Like I said, and again, if you use it like a tool
, like what you you're saying,it's great, it's absolutely
great.
But it's when you try to use itto replace a human to do
certain things, I think that'swhen things go haywire.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Exactly, there was one week I think I had like just
come from New York or something, I don't know.
I was in like a good mood and Ijust wanted to like be pampered
and be fancy.
But I so I messaged AI and Iwas like I'm, I don't have like
a huge budget, but I want to eat, like I'm rich this week and
can you help me.
And sure enough, it was likeyou wake up in the day and have
you know, lemon water, like Ibasically said, like I want to
(34:56):
eat as I'm in a spa, but Icreated myself for the weekend
it it got it perfectly that itwas like speaking to me, like
that, so you can really createyour own dream situation.
Um, now, have you ever messagedchat gbt about any health
things?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I guess you don't need to tell us that, but like
you know what I never have, butI could definitely see that
being a, you know, because Imean, obviously it's not going
to ever replace doctors, but atleast it'll get you in a
direction of, okay, you knowwhat, let's look at this, this,
this and this, or, you know,let's talk about this, so it
gives you something to talkabout when you do go to the
doctor, you know yeah, thatthat's one reason.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like I am, I like I forever tiktok is like my, one
of my like top favorite thingson earth, just because, like the
other day, I had like somesinus blockage and I went on
TikTok and I searched like sinusclearing and sure enough, it's
like all these homemade recipesthat actually work and people
talking about it and stuff thatlike some stuff I already know,
and then some stuff from actualdoctors that are on TikTok and
(35:54):
it's just like it's sointeresting and I think the
visuals of TikTok help me andit's like people recommending
what products they get and Ijust think that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, definitely, definitely me, and it's like
people recommending whatproducts they get and I just
think that's so cool.
Oh, definitely, definitely.
Like I said, I think that um,um, chat, gpt and other ai, uh,
uh, assistance and stuff likethat that's out there, I think,
is going to get better andbetter over time and, um, you
know, as long as they don'tstart trying to attack us like
the alligators I know my nextone we'll hear about.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's my turn again.
We'll hear about the not sogood Evil sides.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
All righty, well, you know what?
Let's talk something fun.
Yeah, have you heard of theWhitney Houston Challenge?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh, yes, the like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yes, yes, yes, oh yes .
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes , I tried to do it last night
and I was woefully wrong Everysingle time.
It is not easy.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You know what's so crazy?
It looks like oh, I can do this, it's so easy, not even
remotely close.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh my god it's so hard.
It feels so far Like it takesso long, but yet you wait too
long.
Then it like comes in.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
It's that perfect timing andyou know.
It also lets you know howtalented she is to hit that
perfect pause, hit that bump andthen go in like there was never
a break exactly that's.
That's talent.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's hard to do well, I guess, if people don't
know what it is, it's uh, it's Iwill always love you, right?
That's the song, like so, it'slike we all know.
I mean if you, if you're ourage, you know the moment when it
like before it's that whole,like it's quiet, then it's like
and uh, you know so.
When the beat drops.
And people are trying to guesswhen the beat drops, I might
pound their, their hand down,and it's funny watching everyone
(37:46):
rush it and do it too soon.
I need to count how manyseconds are exactly there,
because I really wonder.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yes, yes, because it's funny, because as you wait
in there you're thinking you'retiming it right and it's like
real silent for like a matter ofseconds boom and yeah, I'm not
gonna go any further than thatbecause I don't want to scare
people away.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But you know I I was trying it for so many times
yesterday.
It was stressing me out and Igenuinely was making myself
nauseous from like the stress.
I mean I can't.
I can't like ruin my mood overthis and so, um, it's really
tough and it's funny.
It's funny watching people doit.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yes, actually, I would love for our viewers and
our listeners to try the WhitneyHouston challenge.
Let us know how it is.
How did you do?
Share it with us, too, onsocial media.
That'd be kind of fun for ustoo.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I think that's.
I don't know when the song cameout, but I was like either in
middle school or high school, Idon't know.
But I feel bad for my parentshaving to listen to me, probably
in my room, like trying toscream it and I was probably
like upset over some boy orsomething.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Ah, the fun of growing up, huh.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Exactly, exactly.
Well, yeah, we'll definitelyhave to try that.
Okay, I'm going to.
You'll notice that I'm going toskip one and then I'll get back
to that one.
So my next one is going to bethe, as promised, the negative
side of GBT and AI.
Recently, an AI customer servicechatbot made up a company
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policy and created a mess.
When an AI model for a codeediting company cursor
hallucinated a new rule, usersrevolted.
So the AI powered editor cursornoticed something strange.
Machines were like instantlylogging them out, common
workflow was like kind of beingdisrupted and a lot of
(39:38):
programmers are saying like our,our customer support is acting
really different.
We don't know what's going on.
Um, and then an agent named samyou know sam, in quotation
marks because it's an ai persontold them it was an expected
behavior under a new policy, butno such policy existed.
Sam was a bot.
The ai model made the policy up,sparking a wave of complaints
(39:59):
and cancellation threatsdocumented on Hacker News and
Reddit.
So this marks the latestinstance of AI hallucinations
causing potential businessdamages.
This is, quote, creative gapfilling a response where AI
models invent plausible butfalse sounding information.
So you know, we just talkedabout the medical advancements
(40:20):
of it.
This can be terrifying, becausecould you imagine if this was
like predicting a surgery orsaying the steps for, like some
you know, a heart monitor orsomething huge?
And this is where the likescary zombie apocalypse could
happen, when AI takes over andjust hallucinates these weird
things just hallucinates theseweird things.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh yeah, and that's the problem is that that's a
great example of using AI toreplace as opposed to help.
It's a difference, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
There was an instance I guess this happened with Air
Canada where the airline's AIagent incorrectly told someone
they could book a regular priceflight and it became a mess.
So it was like it became alegal issue because the AI said
one thing which is not true andthen the yeah.
(41:11):
It's very interesting becausewe've never had stuff like this
before, where it's like if AIdoes something, whose fault is
it?
Is it legal?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Oh, yeah, but here's the thing the AI belongs to that
company, so they're not gettingaway from that legal fault,
Exactly Because, again, you ownthat AI.
So again you can't just let itgo off on its own, because if it
does damage you, the businessowner has to fix it, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Okay, I have some has to fix it Exactly.
Okay, I have some personal teato spill about this.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
This is juicy.
I'm very excited to share this.
Hopefully none of my workclients will be listening, but
you know one of my jobs is Iwrite a lot for different
podcasts and stuff.
And so I promised myself I willnot put it all onto AI, but I
definitely have it help mesometimes.
Some of my clients know this,some of them don't, but like I'm
(42:07):
not hiding it, I will tellanyone at any time, like it will
be my brain.
But I have AI help me Now.
Last week, one of my clients Ihave to admit I was rushing, I
didn't really feel that well, Ihave no excuses, but for
whatever reason, I put anepisode in and it spit out the
show notes for me, ai and thenit went to print and everything
(42:27):
and I got in big, big troublebecause AI made up like all
these laws for, like, it justmade up these show notes and I,
without checking, I copied andpasted them in and it's for a
client that has a lot of likelegal things and it ended up
becoming a really has a lot oflike legal things and it ended
up becoming a really big.
I got in big trouble and like Inever I feel like I never like
mess up at work or I never likeyou know for like the first time
(42:49):
ever I was in trouble,basically, and I felt really bad
and AI, I couldn't believe itand I then I was typing to it
I'm like how can you do this tome?
And so I said explain why youdid this, I don't understand.
And it said, oh, I just thoughtthe laws that were already
mentioned in this podcastepisode seemed like this was the
(43:10):
inevitable next step for thecompany, and so it just made it
really like, ratted me out.
And it made up laws about stuffthat was happening in like
Arkansas and Kansas City thatwere not true at all.
And then it was my idiocy thatI didn't double check it.
So one of my friends I wastalking to like a journalist
friend and he was saying youalways, always have to tell AI
(43:30):
like, be factual, be truthful,don't make stuff up.
And he was like you have to saythis, otherwise it's happening
to people left and right whereit will just make stuff up.
But I felt so bad last week Ihonestly had like a pit in my
stomach because people were likemad at me and it was a whole
big thing wow so you literallyhave to tell ai, okay, do not
(43:52):
lie, be factual exactlyespecially when it comes to
these things especially.
Like I feel like it couldsummarize pretty well.
Like it could summarize, I feellike if it was to make the show
notes, I feel like it couldsummarize pretty well, like it
could.
I feel like if it was to makethe show notes for for us it
wouldn't just make us stuff upwhat we're talking about, but
when it's like history or lawthings, or like this was a lot
(44:12):
about bills being passed andlike, uh, congress and stuff, it
just made, it made it up out ofthin air.
It was crazy.
And so my clients were like,where did you even get this from
?
And then, not only did I haveto admit that I wasn't
proofreading, but I had to admitthat I was using AI, which was
very embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Ooh, okay, that's some tea.
Yes, yes, well, I think welearned a lesson about using AI,
right?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Exactly so the lesson and we all make mistakes and
like this is just, this is a newfrontier that we're all
learning, and like I never wouldhave thought that it would pull
stuff out of thin air and justmake it up.
So that's just.
Heed my warning from otherpeople at my mistakes be your
lessons.
Where just you can, you know,just always ask is this truthful
, is this from the transcript?
(45:01):
And you know, now I'm going toask it like please triple check
that everything mentioned herewas correct.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And the scary thing is it probably looked really
real too.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh, it completely did , which is why I just sent it
along.
I didn't like, honestly, evenif I reread it, I don't even
know if I would have caught it,because in my mind it just was
like, okay, this seems likeeverything else that they've
talked about.
It's not like an industry thatI know about a lot.
So I just kind of moved forwardwith it.
Wow, and I apologized to myclients and they never wrote
back.
No problem, it's okay.
(45:33):
So they're still mad at me.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
They'll be okay, they'll forgive you.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Exactly, it's not life or death.
I'm not fixing anyone's jawissues, so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
There you go.
Talk about fixing.
Now I'm quite sure everyoneknows who Lizzo is.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Lizzo just announced, and actually if you get back
pictures and videos, she justshed 16% of her body fat.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And she also reduced her BMI points BMI is body mass
index by 10 points, which ishuge.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That is huge.
That's like half a personalmost.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So I commend it.
And you know some people aregiving her a hard time because
she was like, well, you wasalways pushing body image.
You know you're you're sellingout by losing all this weight.
And that's not true, becauseyou know she may have did it for
her.
She did it for herself, youknow.
Yeah, it could have beenmedical, we don't know but I
(46:41):
think the message she tried toget across and I think she even
touched on this is that you knowshe's talking about being being
happy in your own skin.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Regardless of what body type you're in.
That's what that means, youknow, because I know she was on
Saturday Night Live, she hadperformed on there.
You know, uh, because I knowshe was on saturday night live,
she had performed on there and,um, you know, like I said, you
know, I I commend her.
You know, she, yeah, you knowshe didn't.
And, uh, in the article shesaid that, uh, she did not use
any any, uh, weight loss surgeryor anything like that.
She just basically, um, youknow, washed her meals um,
(47:18):
reduced stress.
A lot of people don't realize,yeah, because you know I'm a lot
better now, but I used tostress eat, in other words, when
I get stressed out.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I would eat, oh my gosh, especially at night, right
, but I?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
would eat the absolute wrong things at the
wrong times, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, and potato chips at night are like the most
.
And you know, a cheeseburger at11 30 at night probably isn't
the greatest oh no, and it's socrazy because, like, we eat
these things to make us feelbetter but then they end up
making us feel even then it addsmore problems than what we even
have you know.
But yeah, I really likedefinitely grapple with
(47:56):
nighttime eating and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
so I tip my hat off to her and, uh, I say if you're
going to do something, do it foryourself, because it doesn't
matter what you say or do.
It's crazy, but it's alwaysgoing to be somebody out there
that's got something to say.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Exactly Wait.
So she didn't say anythingabout like she didn't use like
Ozempic or Manjaro or anything.
Really, oh my gosh, see, that'ssurprising Cause.
Like I would not judge her forit at all, but she seems like
someone that like right off thegate, would like would do that
because I know, I know in a in agood way, she like, I feel like
she like came on the scene andwas body positive but then I
(48:32):
feel like she just you knowpeople are allowed to change and
I feel like she probably alsogot done.
Didn't really love always beinglike all people talked about
was her weight and like you knowthe fat, you know she sings and
she's fat, like I'm sure shewas kind of making a mockery of
herself and at one pointprobably didn't really like it,
and I think I think good for her.
She has the right everyone hasthe right to feel good about
(48:53):
their body and how they look, nomatter what?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh, I agree, I agree.
Like I said, I tip my hat offto her, you know, whatever makes
her happy, I don't think it'sanyone's business, you know.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Exactly, and.
I feel like like women likeMeghan Trainor, I know, got a
lot of flack as well, cause Ithink she did go on some like
Monjorno or something, and shesaid she said, yes, I've been on
this and people are like, ohyeah, but you have these songs
like all about the base and youknow you're you didn't like, you
(49:25):
actually didn't like beingoverweight and it's like no,
maybe they liked it at a certainpoint, but then when you that's
like, when that becomes yourwhole identity to other people,
maybe you are like, okay, thatwas this time of my life.
Now I'm ready for the next time.
Like I've definitely had timeswhere I'm kind of like happy to
be a big back or something, andthen other times I'm like, no, I
think this is actually not me.
So we have the right to kind ofchange how we view our own
selves and our bodies.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Absolutely.
I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Okay, my last one is the power of book talk.
Why book talks book communityis driving a new era in
publishing.
Now, yesterday when I wasshopping in Target, I actually
saw we were by the book sectionand I saw excuse me, I saw a
shelf that was devoted toBookTok, which is books that are
(50:09):
just popular on TikTok and fromthe TikTok community, and I
thought that is so crazy thatnow it's made its way to like a
huge display at Target pushingit.
So that just shows the power ofbook talk, which has
accumulated 370 billion viewsand over 52 million creations
jumping on board.
Um, everything from bestsellersto little independent authors.
(50:34):
Uh, book talk thrives oncommunity driven content, so
it's a lot of reviews frompeople, people just sharing book
recommendations.
It's kind of like a book club,but you know, a really big one
and I think that's so cool.
Like I've ordered a few booksthat I've seen on BookTok.
I think it's getting a littletough because it's almost
getting now just how everythingelse does, where now people are
(50:55):
getting like paid to say theiropinion and you know, now it's
like the big people are comingin.
But I think it's super cool.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
I mean it is.
I mean it just also shows thatyou know reading is still a fun
thing that some people like todo, you know it really is now do
you read books?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
that's so funny that I said that like that you know I
probably should, but I reallydon't.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I I read a lot of stuff, obviously.
You know social media,obviously.
But you know I read otherarticles.
You know business relatedarticles, stuff like that going
on in the news.
So do I read books?
I haven't read a quote unquotebook lately.
I still read every day, but Ijust read digitally now, day by,
just read digitally now.
(51:38):
But you know the other thingtoo, what I like about that,
about that particular segmentthere is I love the fact that
you are to be able to getcertain books that you can't get
now, especially with all thecrazy things going on with
telling people what they can andcan't read.
Yes, yes, I think that's a greatway to circumvent that, you
(52:02):
know that's very true, that'sabsolutely true.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Now, I always try I'm I'm so bad at like, if I have
extra time I'll just go tosocial media again and check and
check it.
But I'm trying to like I havean actual physical book, book
like right next to me that I andevery now and then I'll just
say, okay, I'm just going toread like four pages today and
then, sure enough, it's likeonce you turn off all the
distractions and you get reallyimmersed in your book and you
(52:26):
start thinking about it.
But I'm trying to like I haveto physically have a book next
to me and remind myself activelyto go to it instead of checking
like TikTok for the 80th time.
But once I'm reading like andI'm also not ashamed Like I read
stuff that is probably meantfor like 21-year-old women.
You know like I read a lot ofthe beachy reads and romance
stuff.
But to me, like, if you're justreading in general, like I
(52:49):
think reading a handheld book isso good for you, no matter what
it is.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
I mean, the one thing about itis that it opens up so much
imagination.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
You know a good book and this happened to me.
You know you get immersed inreading something.
You're in that story.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
It really is it like soothes your brain?
I feel like it really calms ournervous system.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Oh, definitely, definitely, Something that I
think that probably should bepushed a lot more, more than it
is right now.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, I also think anytime I work at a coffee shop,
I feel like a person sittingout in public and just reading
and looking unbothered is likethe next level of cool, like I
don't know, just look so Frenchor something.
So I feel like I always wantedto be like the type of person
that just sits somewhere andreads a book and I'm like, oh,
I'm too busy, I can't do that.
I'm like, no, it turns out Iactually can be, you know like
(53:40):
for eight minutes a day orsomething.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But yeah, I think the book talk is really cool and
there's something for everyone,like you said, where, like, for
me it's kind of the romance, youknow, whatever easy to read
things.
But for other people they wantto read more like politically
engaging books or just morethoughtful books, and I love it.
I think it's a great place forauthors to come and do some free
advertising.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Absolutely.
I agree on that.
Talk about free advertising.
What do you have coming up,Meryl?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Oh yeah, Thank you.
May 2nd I will be at a place inDana Point and then then I'm
going to push my.
The show I really want to pushis May 28th at the La Jolla
Comedy Store, so I'll bepromoting that for a while.
(54:31):
May 28th Comedy Store.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Perfect, perfect and this show every day, nice.
I hope everyone gets out thereto support Merle.
We definitely appreciate thatand thank you for supporting our
show.
As we're doing, we're trying togrow and bring on more
(54:57):
entertainment, more creativethings.
Anything that you would likefor us to talk about in
particular?
Definitely let us know.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
And, like I said, stay engaged.
Keep having those thirstytopics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Take care everyone.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Bye-bye.
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