Stardom, Stumbles, and Social Media: Exploring Celebrity Turmoil for 4/2/25

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Dive into the latest celebrity controversies as we explore Justin Bieber's erratic social media behavior amid his ex Selena Gomez's new relationship, and examine a high school basketball coach who was fired for yanking a player's hair during a game.

• Justin Bieber's concerning Instagram activity including bird photos and account deactivation
• Debate over appropriate physical contact after a basketball coach pulled a female player's hair
• Charli XCX's controversial comments about parents of young children being universally unhappy
• 23andMe's bankruptcy raising serious concerns about customer DNA data protection
• New laws allowing dogs to serve as official wedding witnesses in several states
• A mother's dolphin-riding accident highlights the risks of animal tourist attractions
• Snow White live action remake bombing as the worst-rated blockbuster in IMDb history
• Yankees' custom "torpedo bats" changing the home run game in baseball
• Disney World's skyrocketing prices making it unaffordable for average American families
• The welcome return of vocational education and trades training in high schools

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lauren Selrod and I amMeryl Clemo.
Welcome to the show, everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Woohoo, hey, meryl rod, and I am merrill clemo.
Welcome to the show everyone.
Hey, merrill.
Hey, I'm feeling good.
I feel like all of our topicsare like light, or some of them
are light-hearted compared tothe happiness of the world that
is true.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
That is true.
We got to mix it up, thougheverything can be crazy, right
yeah, totally don't mind myboyfriend coughing in the
background.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
He's a, a psa for not vaping.
Yeah, totally Don't mind myboyfriend coughing in the
background.
He's a PSA for not vaping.
No problem at all Talk aboutthirsty conversations.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I have one happening in the living room right now.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, I'm going to go ahead and let you start this
off, okay.
Well, this has been.
I don't know how much you'reentangled with this gossip,
because you do have a job and alife and you're like a grown
adult.
So how much do you know about,like, what's happening lately
with, like, justin?
Like, let me ask this Do youknow that Selena Gomez, his ex,
put out a new album?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You know what I did not know, that no.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, see, that helps me know, because I feel like
there's a whole subset of thepopulation like me that, like
I'm in it too deep and I knowtoo much and I have to remember
that like normal humans don'tknow all this.
So you know, like Justin Bieberand Selena Gomez used to date
like wait, when they were likelittle babies you know like 14,
or you know very, very young.
And then he married HaileyBieber.

(01:41):
Or you know he married HaileyBaldwin at the time and now
she's Hailey Bieber.
You know that much, right, andnow, like even all these years,
you would think him and Selenajust would be like fully over it
.
But she just recently releasedshe's marrying Benny Blanco, the
music producer who also used towork with Justin, and he, you

(02:01):
know he's responsible for like alot of great songs.
And so now Selena's album bringsup like she doesn't say it's
Justin, obviously, but it'sabout an ex and it's about you
know how does it feel to beforgotten and all these things
which is now dragging everyoneback to like the Justin, haley,
selena triangle of it all.

(02:23):
And then on Tik TOK, someone putout a seven part series about
how, like proving that Hayleywas a stalker and basically
stalked Justin from the timethat she was younger and then,
like, ultimately manifested him.
But it was all these videos ofher like lurking in the back of
all these things that has seemedto be debunked.
But it's pretty weird of like,just her copying selena, like if

(02:46):
I had to pick a team, I'm, I'mterrible, I'm kind of team
hayley, but um, but anyway, thisall goes to show that, like,
the three of them are just stilla mess and to me, like if
you're selena and justin andyou're still going back and
forth, like at this point he hasa son, like him and hayley have
a little son and if you're,like you know, still about your

(03:06):
ex, even if it's for views.
It's like everyone in thesituation is a little bit nuts,
but he's been.
You know, we talked about him afew months ago, like as part of
the Diddy situation, and itseems like he's been taken
advantage of throughout most ofhis career as a child advantage
of throughout most of his careeras a child.

(03:27):
But now he's starting to reallyshow signs of just like you
know, whether it's substance useor whether it's mental health
or you know whatever.
But he just he looks very gauntand he's posting really
erratically on social media.
He's kind of giving like theBritney, like Aaron Carter, you
know, before people seem to havebad things happen, like that
type of posting, which is verysad.
And yesterday he posted he'sbeen posting all of these like

(03:50):
birds and just Instagram storiesand then he deactivated his
account.
But it made it look like heHaley unfollowed him because,
basically, when Haley, when youchecked who Haley was following,
her husband Justin wasn't inthe name.
Haley, when you checked whoHaley was following, her husband
Justin wasn't in the name, andso I think that was because he
deactivated his account.
But this is all to say that if,like you know, if you're

(04:15):
someone's ex and they're goingcrazy like a decade later, it's
just A embarrassing and B.
I hope he's okay and I feellike we're at the point now.
You know we talk a lot aboutconservatorship with, like Wendy
Williams and all that, and Idon't think he needs a
conservatorship, but I feel like, with him, someone in his life
or team needs to look into this,because it seems like it's
getting pretty messy.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, obviously Justin Bieber is not the same
person he was a few years back.
There's a few things with thisOne I never knew people really
looked at who follows theirstars that closely.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I know, when it comes to those three, everyone's
watching, everyone's move.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's amazing that people have that kind of time.
I know.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I know it definitely is.
People will do it the minutethat it happens, or they'll
notice like someone took a thirdphoto out of a carousel from
like a year ago.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously they got things
going on.
I agree with you, you know.
I don't think, you know,conservatorship is something to
be talked about or anything, butyou know, I think he has been
going through some stuff,because I don't know when the
last time he put out music.
I know I know, like even hislook.

(05:33):
Honestly, he can blend in andyou would not know he's Justin
Bieber because his look is sodifferent right now.
So I just kind of hope thatthey work their things out, no
matter what's going on.
But there's definitely somethings going on.
As far as what it is, we don'tknow, because here's the thing
too even if they're havingtrouble in their marriage

(05:56):
because of who they are, theyhave to put on a front until
they want to release that news,if there's news to be released.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yes, exactly, and the reason why I'm like team hayley
.
I'm sure all these people are tosome extent good people, but
also to some extent, I think allof them are probably lost in
the sauce, and you know what Imean like they're not normal
people, like all of them.
But at least hayley doesn'tlike do anything wrong to people
like she's just quiet.
Besides, like she, you know,she has her own makeup company

(06:24):
and she's like really justposting for herself.
She doesn't really like evergive a victim thing, or like she
just wants to post in cuteoutfits and so um.
But I was gonna say could youimagine if, like you know,
you're married, say if your wifehad an ex-husband that put out
an album and all of a sudden nowyour wife like goes crazy and
is like deactivating her accountand like posting Instagrams of

(06:46):
birds and stuff?
It's just like to me Justin isnot doing a very good job of
seeming unbothered very much,like you know.
So him and Selena still seem tolike go nuts with each other
over the internet whenever oneof them has something coming out
.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, that's true, and you know, sometimes people
could misinterpret that forsomething else, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right, like they still like like each other, or
just yeah, I don't know what itis, but to me it's like Justin
has a baby and Selena's engaged.
Like everyone should just likeforget about each other and move
on with their lives.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean I hope that, whatever'sgoing on, they, they work it out
and get through it.
Um, because, um, it seemed likefor a while, you know,
everything was going reallygreat in his life and I hope
yeah I really do I do too.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
He's so talented and I just hope you know they've
gotten like really religious.
But then also there was like ascandal about his pastor not too
long ago.
Like it always seems likewhoever he puts himself around,
then like shortly thereafterthat person is found to be like
not a great influence on him.
So I'm sure he feels like hecould barely trust anyone.
Maybe that's why, uh, you know,he keeps on acting out, but it

(08:01):
definitely seems like.
Of course we don't know forsure, but just the way he looks
and acts, it definitely seemslike maybe there's some
substance stuff which is verysad.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's true, that's true, but we'll definitely keep
an eye on this story.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, we'll keep an eye out for Selena.
As the song says about SelenaGomez Like all of them are so
weird.
If anyone's watching, I'm sorry, but it's just weird to like
watch Selena Gomez.
Like all of them are likeinsane, except for Hailey
Bieber's.
Really pretty, but that's it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Talk about insane.
There is a gentleman.
He used to be a coach For ahigh school basketball team
Women's high school basketballteam.
His name is Jim Zulo and he wasfired after pulling the hair of
one of his players during thegame.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, yes, I remember that.
Yep, I saw that Like hard too.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I mean, I don't care what's going on on the court.
There is zero reason to everput your hands on a child Never.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Not like that at all either.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't know.
I just think that he shouldnever, ever, coach again,
because if you get that workedup, and here's the thing, it's a
high school game.
It's not an NBA or WNBA game.
It's a high school basketballgame.
You're supposed to be teachingthe fundamentals and also
supposed to be fun.
That's not fun, because otherpeople, other players, could be

(09:31):
traumatized from that too.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Looking at this life, wow, you know exactly, yeah, I
saw that and I mean, could youimagine if it even was the WNBA
or like something even more highprofile?
Like I feel like by the timeyou're that age, hopefully you
have enough agency that you'relike, don't do that, you know,
to the coach.
I feel like they should neverlike, if anything, maybe like a

(09:52):
tap on the shoulder or likegrabbing someone, you know like
lightly kind of grabbing someoneby the shoulder, but there is
no need to pull on someone'shair.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like that's just weird.
I mean, he pulled her.
I don't know if you got achance to see the video, but he
pulled her so hard her headyanked back.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, which is very weird.
I can see like in the rightscenario if someone's almost
like good game and like almostlike in just like a light, like
boop, you know, but like not ina way that that should not be
used to like control someone orsteer them.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's very weird.
Yeah, I mean I know over theyears it seemed like it's calmed
down, but at some point it wasgetting out of control.
You know where you have parentsfighting on the field, coaches
fighting.
You remember when, every timeyou turned around, there was a
fight at some kind of oh yeah,like baseball, dad standing up.
And the crazy thing is, itwasn't the players, it was the
parents, I know which ishumiliating and you know, the

(10:50):
kid, the poor kids.
They're supposed to be learningabout sportsmanship and they're
watching this nonsense like,okay, we're teaching them a
great thing, right do you thinkthat's just like?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, I don't, I don't feel sympathy for that man
, but obviously I bet he wasbecause he's older, so I bet
that he was like from a timewhere that almost happened.
Because I feel like when ourparents went to school, they a
lot of schools did like you know, they like slapped their hands
or they were allowed to liketouch the students in a way that
obviously now isn't right.
But I feel like they need tohave education for, like the

(11:22):
modern day of like what's okayand what's not.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I feel like they need to have education for, like,
the modern day of like what'sokay and what's not, I don't
know.
I think I disagree, and theonly reason why is because, if
it was something that justchanged over, yeah, that's true,
but you know, between the MeToo movement and you know we're
2025, which means we're talkingdecades, since you know that
kind of culture exists, right,he knows better he does.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
He just got caught, yeah, definitely, and that's
honestly even like I don't wantto say abusive, but that's
definitely not even great.
Uh, parenting of your parents,like even to do that to your
child, is not a really great wayto like reprimand them and
stuff you.
You know what I mean.
And so these kids aren't yourchildren, but even if they were,
that's not a really great wayto teach children at all.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, and I would say in a way it could be borderline
abuse, because, no matterwhat's going on, I don't even
see a parent pulling their childlike that.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
So why would you as a coach?
Because you know that could getreally, really dangerous.
Because what?
If her father saw that, camedown and decided to slam the
coach to the ground.
Yeah, it would really get outof hand very fast.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Now, okay, you're a dad.
If it was like if your son wasa little bit younger and you saw
something like that at a game,would you like go off right then
and there Would you wait tillafter the game?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
No, I'd go down to the floor and I'd grab the coach
by his hair and slam him to thefloor.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
You really, would you really?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
would, I would.
Here's the thing, and I'm kindof weird like this.
You know I could brush offpretty much anything being said
to me, no matter how disgustingor whatever it is.
Don't touch me.
Okay, say whatever, don't touchme.
Don't touch my family, and it'snot about being bad or anything

(13:14):
like that, but I'm from oldschool.
You know, if you're going toput your hands on me and my
family, I'll put my hands on you.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
You can talk without touching.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, yeah, I feel like if that, if my parents were
watching something, they Awould probably tell me Meryl,
what did you do?
But then after that they wouldprobably like let me say as well
, they would probably almostlike have me talk to the
principal, or like I could seein a scenario.
then afterwards I mean, thankgoodness, this was on camera too
, it was clear as day and Ithink anyone could watch.

(13:49):
It's not like, oh, he lightlygrabbed it or you know like
there's, there's proof rightthere what happened.
So I think it was done.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it was like it was so casual that I'm willing to
bet you that wasn't the onlytime he's ever put his hands on
the studio.
I know that could be wrong, butit just seemed like something
that was way too natural for himto do Exactly Now.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
do you believe if this say if, like, besides this,
the coach has a lot of goodattributes, are you kind of like
I don't care, I want them gone?
Him gone like forever?
No, or what if he's like, I'mso sorry, I learned my lesson.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Can I like have one more try?
Well, unfortunately it wouldnot be my decision, but if it
was my decision, absolutely notreally good for you.
I respect that once, once youput your hand on a child, you do
not deserve to be coaching everagain yeah, yeah because the
thing is, in any sport, once acoach has lost the locker room,
meaning lost lost the confidenceof their players, you're done.
It doesn't matter how good youare, they're never going to play

(14:49):
up to the potential you needthem to.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's true?
Yep, it's not the way.
And like, especially whenyou're not teaching them
anything by yanking on theirhair, you're not being like, hey
, that play didn't happenbecause you did this or you
threw the ball this way, youknow what I mean Like you're not
teaching them anything.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm curious Now, same question for you.
Do you think you would want tosee that person coach again?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Something like I mean , I take, I hear you Like I
don't like the no touching atall, but something like this if,
like the person showed had likea good track record and really
showed true remorse and sorrow,I would probably put them on a
probation, maybe of three to sixmonths, and then really really

(15:35):
use that probation very toughand really be stern with them,
and then if it was better we'dbe okay, but if not, I'd be like
you're out, okay.
Yeah, something like that.
If it was a different type oftouching, of course, and they
would be out immediately, butsomething that's like this, I
feel like I'd be like that'sreally stupid and I'd make them

(15:56):
feel bad and apologize,obviously, and take some
education or whatever.
But it also seems like thisperson's so old.
They just need to retire andlet someone young and nice Get
in the game.
That's true, that's very, verytrue we used to have a librarian
this is so ridiculous.
But we had a librarian.
She she wasn't hurting us, butshe would tell us, um, she would

(16:19):
like give extra credit toanyone that was massaging her
back and like, wow, she wasn't,like, it wasn't anything like
nefarious or it wasn't anythingbad.
She was just like an old womanthat constantly like had a
backache and she would alwaystell kids, like you know, you
get extra credit and I remembermy friends would like rub her
back.
I'd be like you know, I couldnever touch her.

(16:40):
I could like feel her like oldbra, like her hair was just so
curly and like old and stuff.
And so, looking back, I'm likethat is so inappropriate.
But at the time no one thoughtanything weird about it.
She wasn't even weird.
It just was like, okay, thisperson needs a back rub.
I guess it wasn't sexual at all, it was very just, almost.

(17:02):
She didn't know any better.
The things that we hear todayare so strange.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, that would be borderline creepy to me though,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And it's like she just was an old lady, and half
the time she'd just be likeneeding a back rub through her
like cashmere old sweater.
Okay, cheers, just line up togive me my back rub now, that's
honestly what it was, and I'mlike also, we were in library
class.
Why do you need extra creditfor library class?
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
All righty now.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I know.
Whatever it was Pennsylvania inthe 80s, no one knew what was
happening.
Okay, well, we'll keep the kiddiscussion going.
This is a whole different,other version of it, but
something that happened recently.
Do you know who Pop SingerChapel Roan is?
Yes, I do, she's constantly.

(17:53):
I think we've talked about hera bunch of times before because
she's the past, I feel like hercareer, when she kind of got
really big and really famous.
She's known to be not so nice aspaparazzi and she kind of has
some moments of not wanting tosay hi to her fans and just kind
of she's not my favorite.
But she got in trouble theother day on a podcast.

(18:15):
She said a podcast called CallHer Daddy.
She basically said that none ofher friends that are parents
are happy.
Everyone is miserable.
Let's see.
I'm trying to find the exactquote.
But she said I literally havenot met.
Oh, she said I don't knowanyone.
I actually don't know anyonewho's happy and has children at
this age.
She went off rattling off agesof children under five as

(18:38):
examples.
I literally have not met anyonewho's happy, anyone who has
light in their eyes, anyone whohas slept, and that got a lot of
moms like riled up.
Um, I don't know.
My thoughts are like A that'skind of stupid to say, I mean,
but that could be her experience.
You know, she could be in hertwenties and all of her friends
right now might have like youngchildren and they are really

(18:59):
tired and really bedraggled andthat doesn't mean they hate
their lives or like they regrettheir choices, they just mean
like they're tired and they'reit's harder, you know, right now
.
But B I also think moms shouldlike also not care as much,
because it's like Chapel Roan isjust a singer that like kind of
gets in trouble every othermonth and like doesn't seem to

(19:20):
know a lot about anything, andso like I feel like if you're a
mom, you should, in a good way,I wouldn't like put a lot of
weight into like what thisperson has to say in the world
and that's her experience.
But it's also like I wouldn'tlook to her as my source of
intellectual sourcing.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know the interesting thing that I've
learned over the years and I'mnot going to say all single
people, all people with nochildren, but the people I ran
across the most that has themost to say aren't other parents
, it's people who don't havekids, right, yes, and you know,
it's like they have so much tosay and it's like so how did you

(20:02):
learn this if you have no kids?
Well, I saw.
I don't give a shit what thatbook says or what you watch on
TV.
Have some kids one day, andthen you can talk.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
They literally tell you how to raise your child.
Oh wow.
You must have children I don'tknow about.
Oh my God, how many kids yougot.
I don't have any kids.
Depending on your relationship,you're like you know what
that's okay, or you know shutthe fuck up, go away.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Exactly know what that's okay.
Or you know, let's shut the fuckup, go away.
Yeah, exactly, I constantly tellmy friends that have children
like I don't know how they do itand I never, ever, I never like
suppose that I would knowanything about them.
And like my friends aren'tmiserable.
Or my friends with killedchildren are just as miserable
as my single friends with noboyfriends, single, you know,
boys and girls with a husband,like we all have different
levels of joy and misery and Ifeel like a lot of times my

(20:53):
friends with kids, like on anEaster when they're with their
family, then like I don't reallyhave that, but then I have the
freedom of you know it all.
There's pros and cons of likeall of it.
So, but to me it's also, Ithink, sometimes in the media
need to just like we can't alljump on like yeah, that's Chapel
Roan's, like that's her truth,like that is her truth.

(21:13):
You know she probably couldhave said it in a less snarky
way, but it's like that could betrue and mom shouldn't feel bad
if, like that's what'shappening with her.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But I also think too, it's a kind of stupid thing to
say well, yeah, and the thing is, everything has its ups and
downs, even the bestrelationships and the best
marriages.
This is going to shock thewhole world.
But yes, they argue too.
They may not do it in front ofyou, but they have their ups and
downs too, and just becausethey have a bad moment with

(21:44):
their child doesn't mean theydon't love their child.
They just had a bad moment.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
It doesn't mean that they're miserable.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
No, not at all.
I feel very like I'm proud ofmyself for picking good friends
early on, because my friendsthat are mothers and fathers
like have still remained reallycool and like still funny and,
like you know, as much as I'mnarcissistic of not having
children, they are self-absorbedwith their kids but like we're
also all trying like everyone istrying their best to like

(22:14):
maintain a friendship and I feellike if you pick good friends
before they have kids, likehopefully you guys can all help
each other and everything.
And you know, I think I see allthese like tropes all the time
on TikTok of like the childlesspeople being so being like why
don't you have time for me?
And you know like peoplemisunderstanding each other.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean just, even if, let's say, you have a
best friend and that best friendgets married, you can still
hang out with a friend.
Now, are you going to be ableto hang out as much?
No, because they're in arelationship, exactly you know,
it kind of works both ways.
You still need to spend sometime with your friends, but as

(22:55):
the person who's not married,you also have to understand too
that they have a relationshiptoo, exactly.
So there's got to be a balancethere.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Exactly.
And when you pick friends likeI'm genuinely interested in my
friend's children's, like, oh, Iwant to hear about what's going
on, especially when they getinto like middle school age, and
then there's gossip and thenthere's, you know, like other
parents that they talk about.
But I do think in the beginningit's up to like the me of the

(23:23):
situation, the childless personto like go to the person's house
when they just had a baby andlike, maybe follow up a little
bit more, because my best friendfor the first two years we'd be
on the phone and then all of asudden she'd be like, ah, and
the phone would just hang up,like like you know, I knew it
would be like that, because Ijust knew like, okay, she has
two young boys, they're gonna belike eating her alive,
basically, and so I feel likewhen you find friends that you

(23:45):
want to invest in for the longtime, it's like okay, that's a
small period of our friendshipwhen her kids are little.
So like if I get hung up onevery couple weeks, it's okay.
But also Chapel's like kind ofyoung also and like I don't know
how much media training she'shad.
I think part of her appeal isthat she just speaks her mind

(24:05):
and if she wants to say herfriends aren't happy, you have
kids, like that's truth and likepeople shouldn't be mad.
That's just her life.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that's true.
But also she needs tounderstand that may have a
negative effect because herfriends may look at her a little
bit differently.
You know Exactly the commentsshe made, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Imagine being one of the friends that has like a
two-year-old and be like hello,what are you talking?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
about yep, exactly.
So, like I said, I think youknow, you just kind of shake
your head, okay, and just kindof move on to the next exactly.
Do you have any friends that,um, don't like, are happy, like
happily unchilded?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
uh, you know yeah, I do have some friends that don't
have children yeah, are theylike?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
are they like jet setters like their life, or are
they pretty much like stillfamily people, but just not with
children, or like it's kind ofa mix of both.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, you know, some are still family oriented, even
though they don't have anychildren themselves.
Some, um know, they don't havechildren and they don't really
think about it much.
So, it's kind of on both, onboth spectrums.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
See, that's cool and I like being like the cool wild
aunt to some kids where, likethey know, they could like tell
me anything or call me orwhatever, and yeah, but some I
have not my best friends, butthere are some friends that I
actively have to like write downtheir children's names because
I just like can't remember.
I'm like how is like okay,aiden, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
No, I totally understand.
Now talking about memory andother things, this one is a very
interesting story, 23 and Me doyou.
One is a very interesting story, 23andme do you know who they
are?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
For other people watching.
23andme is a place where youcan get your DNA ran.
This way, you can see if youhave family members out there,
find other people or even findsome history about yourself.
They have now filed forbankruptcy and now there's
serious concerns about thecustomer data that they have.

(26:19):
So you know a lot of people aresaying you should go in there
and delete your account, deleteall your information, and I
guess I've never done dna umjust because of the fact that
I'm a little worried about myinformation.
Yeah, yep and um.
This is.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
This story actually doesn't help at any I know it
doesn't seem like a weird sci-fimovie like about to start.
You know, it seems like themaking of a weird movie and no
one's really okay.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
We talked about the personal data, but what about
your DNA that they've connected?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I know that's true.
I didn't even think about that?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
What happens to that?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
my God, I did not think about that.
That's so funny because, likeyou know, as we talked about,
I'm definitely like I can sitvery much on the conspiracy
spectrum and I have not thoughtabout that yet.
I'm going to have to go onReddit after this one.
They're building like a wholeAI super robot of all of us or
something.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
But the one thing I'm very surprised about is and I
know people are like I don'twant the government on our lives
or whatever but I think this isone of those times where maybe
government should step in and go.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Hey, what are you?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
doing with the DNA, exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
It could be dangerous if that's in the wrong hands.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, it definitely is.
I did because wait, there's23andMe and Ancestrycom, right,
I think I did one of those andit was so funny.
I think I did.
I did one of those and it wasso funny.
It told me like things Ialready knew, basically, you
know, like the diseases that mygrandparents had, that I'm like
okay, I'll probably get that oneday too.

(27:59):
But like, but it also told methat I like metabolize coffee
really well.
So if anything that helped meknow that I could drink a lot of
coffee, but but you know itscared me, and especially since
I mean it's no secret, like Icoffee, but but you know it
scared me, and especially sinceI mean it's no secret, like I'm
Jewish.
You know I'm Jewish and so younever know, especially with,
like, how things are goinglately and everything you just

(28:19):
don't know.
And I mean I mean it's, ifpeople want to find Jewish
people, it's very easy to to dothat and hopefully people don't
want to do that anymore.
But like that's something Ididn't really think about at the
time, but that's just I don'tknow.
You never know, in the wronghands, anything could be scary.
You know, black, asian, jewish,like anything could be
something that you don't want umto get that's a very real,

(28:44):
legitimate concern you justbrought up.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, and you know, unfortunately these are things
that you someone has to talkabout, because once they go out
of business, if no one iswatching over them to see what
they're doing, that informationcould be anywhere.
And what's to stop them fromselling that information to
unsavory people?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Exactly, and you think about I mean like and I
know this is like way dark andeverything like that, but it's
like like, oh, nothing wouldever happen.
But I'm like, okay, could youimagine if there wasn't 2023?
And me and like Germany andback in the day, you know?
And so it's like we think thesethings can't happen.
But it's scary when a companyand remember when it was like

(29:24):
just hacked and like you thinkthese things are more encrypted
than they are and then all of asudden they could just get
hacked like a regular, like anAshley Madison type website.
It's just very weird.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Very, very weird.
I don't know.
I mean, I guess it's a personaldecision when it comes to
giving up your DNA, but unlessI'm forced to, I don't know if
I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I know, I know it is cool to find out, I think your
lineage, I mean.
I also don't know how deeplyaccurate that is, so but you
know, I think it's cool.
But it's also kind of like,what do you do with that?
And I guess a lot of people too,I've heard, especially over the
pandemic a lot of people didfind like their birth parents,

(30:08):
you know who were adopted and Ithink that's a big way, for I
can totally see the draw withthat if you are adopted in any
way or want to find more of yourbiological family.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
I just think that there reallythis kind of highlights that
there should be some rules inplace, some laws in place for
the what-ifs.
What if the company goesbankrupt?
What if the company is shuttingdown?
What are you doing with theinformation?
This is what you should orshouldn't be doing with it.
I just think that is one ofthose situations where the laws

(30:41):
haven't caught up to the times.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Exactly.
I know people that also havefound they had siblings they
didn't know about.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I mean mean if it's used the right way, it is a
great thing.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It really is yeah, mine was just like you're jewish
and you're anxious.
I'm like yeah, I know that,like, why did I just pay 79 to
find that out?
Thank you, it was like you're99, like exactly what you know
you are so well at least youconfirmed it right exactly.
That'd be very weird.
And also like I look exactlylike if you like, ai morphed my

(31:14):
parents together, like like ifyou took my parents and like
overlapped their face.
I have like a venn diagram ofthem.
So I wasn't expecting to findout that I was like from a sri
lankan family or anything, butthat's a good one so, yeah, no,
no time soon are we going to getmore, uh, genetic testing then?

(31:37):
amen to that um, okay, well,something I am going to be doing
is having when I have anotherdog one day, it can be an
official wedding witness,especially if you live in New
York now.
So another state, new York, hasmade it legal for dogs to act
as official wedding witnesses.
So let's see this already said,you can't have your dog be the

(32:01):
officiant, but you can have itbe a witness, and so a lot of
times like, the state allowspets to serve as a secondary
witness by signing with a pawprint.
I think that is like, actuallyso cute.
Um, this seems silly but likeI've owned two dogs in the past
and, like either one of both ofmy dogs I love so much that it

(32:23):
would be like an honor to havethem witness me get married.
Honestly, I'd rather, lookingback, I like have loved the dogs
more than the actual man I wasgonna marry, so like that would
that would be the good takeawayof that situation would be the
dog.
Um, but I think it's cool.
I mean it's very like kitschyand obviously I don't know how

(32:43):
people take it very seriously,but I think like dogs can be
part of our family andespecially when you're a couple
like and you have a dog together.
It really is like a directfamily member and I think I
think that's like very cute.
I think it's a it's a littlesilly, but I think it's very
sweet.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I was actually a little shocked about it at
first, until I read the articleand I noticed that a lot of
States that don't require aseparate witness are allowing
the dogs to be a witness.
Yeah, my question is for statesthat do require a witness one,
are they going to allow the dogto be a witness?
And two, do they have to stillhave a human witness or are they

(33:25):
going to?
They can take the place of ahuman as a witness?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I know that's true.
Yeah, yeah, I think for likeNew York, colorado, kansas,
pennsylvania, like I thinkyou're on your own, you could
just have a Springer Spanielright there.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Now those states they don't have a now did they have
a rule where someone had to be awitness?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
No, I know Colorado doesn't mandate human witnesses
for weddings.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ah, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
And this is very exciting as well witnesses for
weddings.
And this is very exciting aswell the 23 states where a dog
can be your wedding witness.
Also, this counts to have abird, cat or pig.
So like, literally, I haven'tbeen interested in getting
married recently, but if I couldhave a pig stamp its hoof
honestly, now we're talking yes,that would be interesting.

(34:21):
Oh my god, if I could trulyhave a wedding where there's
like a dog and a pig watching me.
Now I'm more excited than Iever have been for a wedding.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, I think it would be cute, though it would
be nice and cute, definitelysomething to remember.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, I know I think that would be so, though it
would be nice and cute,definitely something to remember
.
Yeah, I know I think that wouldbe so sweet, especially like if
you have a dog together and Ijust think I don't know if
you're a family person.
Like I think about my dogs thathave passed all the time and
that's just like they're part ofmy.
You know our stories andeverything.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
So I just think that's great.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
A lot of times, people that are your wedding uh
witnesses like kind of you knowyou're not, you don't talk that
much, or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So I think this is I love it yeah, that's a nice
story, very, very nice, positive.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think it's so cute my dogs would have like lifted
their leg and like peed on thethe wedding uh registry, though
wedding registry though.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, since we're talking about animals, this one
is a somewhat feel-good,somewhat ouch-type situation.
A mom her name is Sierra, she'sfrom Stockyard, Tennessee Was
injured while on vacation ridingtwo dolphins.
Scary, what happened was theyhave these two dolphins and

(35:45):
basically what you do is you geton top, you know, one foot on
one dolphin, one foot on theother, oh yeah, and then you
kind of just ride them and thedolphins, kind of, you know, fly
.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, it's almost like a jet ski.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
You're like you know, almost like you're like yeah,
yeah yeah well, the issue is isthat while she was doing this on
vacation, uh, with her kids?
Um, she was saying that onedolphin was moving a little
faster than the other, so shewas off balance and she fell.
She fell her back, hit the finof one of the dolphins.

(36:16):
It was very painful and thedolphins actually was
interesting.
They actually surrounded her tomake sure she was okay.
You know, kind of like you know, because dolphins are very,
very smart animals.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
But it was kind of a shame.
I mean they interviewed the momand she was saying that you
know she still had fun eventhough this happened, or
whatever, and you know it was agreat experience.
And I'm curious would you ridedolphins?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
No, I mean so far.
My mom works at SeaWorld in SanDiego.
Oh, wow, yep.
So, like you know, she's not inthe tank or in the whatever
with them.
She's like more giving justtours and everything, but like
or in the whatever with them.
She's like more giving justwhores and everything, but like,
no, I wouldn't ride them.
I would definitely like get inthere nicely and like pet them,
but I just feel like withanimals like to me they're not

(37:07):
to be ridden, or like I don't.
I don't like any of that stuff,like bull riding or like I
didn't like it all when theywould stand on the killer
whale's back and ride it.
I'm all for nicely petting ananimal or just feeding it nicely
, but I wouldn't ride it.
I'm surprised that, honestly,this doesn't happen more,
because it just seems like withbeing with two huge creatures

(37:28):
like that, I'm surprised that wedon't hear more stories like
that.
But yeah, I've heard too, likehow you said, there they all
surrounded her.
I've heard stories about how,like dolphins will look after
surfers and bring them to theshore.
Sometimes, you know if they'vedone bad, so um, but I could
also see how that would be acool experience for like the mom
to do.
So I wouldn't do it, but Icould see why people the draw of

(37:52):
it.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that.
Um, I will go there.
Yeah, I kind of agree with youon that.
I will go there, I'll watch it,I'll even pet it.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Even when I see horses I'm like how beautiful.
I don't need to sit on you, Ijust want to touch the mane.
But yeah, I think that would be.
You didn't say she wasn't likeParalyzed or anything, was she?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Thank God no.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
So hopefully that will be okay.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, but the scary part is what if she was
paralyzed Because you could hitthe right way in the back?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I know, and especially if, like you know, if
she fell the wrong way and likeone landed like on her and like
they could like easily likesnap your neck or you know, I
know that's so.
I just feel like with those,with creatures, it's sad to make
them do that, even if they'rehappy and like well taken care
of.
Um, I know like sea world hasreally had to change there like

(38:46):
just make sure all the animalsare happy and like do a lot of
things to rescue them.
They don't really treat themlike that anymore.
They do like a lot of goodstuff.
I think sometimes their imagedoesn't always come across like
that in the media, but behindthe scenes they really help the
animals so much.
Just a side note this is so cute.
My mom had to.
There was a little dolphin inSan Diego that was rescued and

(39:10):
it didn't know how to use itsflippers so they made it their
flipper.
They made one out of a poolnoodle and it was the cutest
little baby dolphin with a poolnoodle as a flipper.
Nice, it's still there, butit's really friendly.
My mom said that it activelywants to see people.
It's really, really social.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
That's nice.
That is definitely nice.
I love being around animals.
Animals have a way of calmingyou down.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, they definitely do.
Maybe a dolphin could be awitness to a wedding, but we
just can't ride them.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's true.
That's true.
Just be prepared to get wet.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Honestly, if people get married in the ocean, they
can take their little flipperand say yes to it, but yeah
that's weird.
I wouldn't do stuff like that.
I think about that all the timeof just like I used to um, I
used to live by an amusementpark called hershey park and you
would go and kiss.
They had like sea lions and youcould go and, you know, kiss a
sea lion like right in its face,and I'm like I never thought

(40:10):
about like a how dirty that wasand be like the fact that they
could just bite your face, likein that moment.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I don't know People trying to get that perfect shot.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Exactly.
Have you ever done any weirdanimal encounters?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
No, absolutely not.
I'll watch people do it, though,but I won't do it now Exactly.
Yeah, I've seen people do crazystuff, like you know, play with
reptiles.
You know, of course, the bigthing now is that you know play
with reptiles.
Um, you know, of course, youknow the big thing now is that
you know alligators andcrocodiles.
You know stuff like yeah,that's all cute and dandy.

(40:44):
Like I can never see myselfliving in florida, because any
place where I have to literallywalk outside, make a lot of
noise to make sure there's noalligator yeah, in my backyard,
I don't want to live there.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Exactly, and especially if you can't really
have a backyard without makingsure that they can't crawl in.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, yeah, that would kind of scare the hell out
of me.
Pretty weird.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Well, this is a good transition.
Was Snow White the one thatattracted all the animals?
That's Snow White, right, okay,well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
The Seven Dwarfs.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh, okay, that's right.
Was she the one that had allthe animals would come to her
too, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,that's right.
The Seven Dwarfs too.
Well, you know we love thatversion of Snow White, but the
version that's out now isbombing.
So, snow White, but the versionthat's out now is bombing.

(41:41):
So the Snow White bombed intothe worst blockbuster in IMDb
history.
Let's see, on IMDb it has atthis point.
When I the article came out, ithad 227,000 reviews, putting it
at a 1.5 out of 10, the lowestscore of not just any
blockbuster of a similar budgetbut also almost all the movies
on the entire site.

(42:01):
Now, of course, you know stufflike this, like there is
definitely is a hate train whereit's just fun to hate on things
.
By the time they like get suchbad reviews.
So I don't know how many ofthese are actually like real,
real reviews.
But Rotten Tomatoes, it's gottenreally bad.
A lot of one-star things Peopleare and also a lot of people

(42:22):
are coming onto TikTok whowanted to like the movie People
that are fans saying that thisis indeed terrible.
Now Rachel Ziegler has beenharassed a lot about the actress
, the Snow White actress.
She's been making a lot ofstatements about Palestine, blah
, blah, blah, one way or another.
Like, hopefully that shouldn'thave a lot to do with like

(42:44):
actual Snow White, you know whatI mean.
Like, even if I don't agreewith some of her stuff, I would
still absolutely watch like SnowWhite with an open mind and,
you know, really like her work.
So I don't know, have you seenit?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I haven't seen it, but I'm really shocked that you
know, especially being a disneyum production, that it's really
bombing so bad.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I know, oh my god, this is so funny it's doing
worse than a few of these movies, including cats glitter, cat
woman, dragon ball, evolutionand and so, excuse me, I think
this also caught um.
Remember, like when she wasfirst making it, rachel ziggler
was saying, basically about howthis isn't like your 1930s, no

(43:28):
way, and how the old story wasoutdated and a lot of people
were kind of like, oh man, youknow, kind of can't we have
anything that's still left to togo now I kind of see I haven't
seen it.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
So my assumption is that they change it to the point
that people don't like thestoryline.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Now yeah, which like I don't think that means that
they want to like live in an oldtime era, like that doesn't
necessarily mean that you'relike not woke or whatever.
You know that just mean couldmean it's like a bad movie done
and it's kind of like don't fixwhat's broken or whatever the
thing is.
You know what's not broken.
So, um, I don't really know,even if, like I said, even if

(44:10):
rachel's not really likable orshe's had some like whatever,
like political things, I stillfeel like maybe she could be a
good actress.
But, like I've heard friendsthat were like I actively like
this, I was ready to go to itand it was really bad and just
really stupid.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Did they say why they thought that?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
One friend who does like musicals said that there
was too many songs and that thesongs were really bad, badly
done.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Ah, so it's not a regular movie, it's a musical.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, she said there's like a song Every single
second.
It's really terrible.
And another friend, the friendthat I went to go See the Wizard
of Oz with, or whatever.
I just saw the one with Ariana.
I forget If that movie was evencalled With Ariana Grande and
Cynthia.
Was it Wizard?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
of.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Oz.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I think that's the Wizard wizard.
I think it's called the wiz orsomething.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just saw the part one of that I saw
with the friend and we love thatand she's like this was totally
different.
It was really bad, like therate.
The actress was terrible, um, soI don't know you know, even
though it bombed, I'm reallycurious enough because I want to
yeah exactly and once again, Istill feel like the same thing

(45:22):
with chapel road, like if theactress wants to go online and
say her truth, which is thatlike she's ready for a new
version, like I'm fine with that, I can make my own opinions,
and on that, you know, I don'tneed I don't need her and I to
like line up 24 7 on everything,but I know I almost want to see
it when it comes out to video.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
It kind of makes you wonder if they didn't do a good
job marketing it.
If you don't market it, youalready have an impression on
your head about the old SnowWhite and the Dorffs story.
You just go in there with thatexpectation.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Exactly, I agree Totally, like, yeah, I haven't
seen any positive things on it.
I don't know how RottenTomatoes makes sure that people
have seen movies, but they saidthat it's like, yeah, people
seem bad for it and I do thinkit's probably a little.

(46:21):
Oh, it says its critic scoresare the lowest of all the major
live action Disney adaptations,at a 41%.
So like I feel like if criticsare hating on it too, that
really says something, becausethese aren't just like people
that are mad because she tweetedlike Free Palestine or
something.
These are like critics that areactively trying to like see the
movie for what it is.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
That's true, but you know the thing is.
There are times that's true,but the thing is, there are
times where critics are wrongand the movie's a blockbuster.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh yeah, and the people like it a lot.
I feel like that happens a lotof times.
The movie's actually great.
We love it as people, but thecritics are hating on it.
That's true, that's true, Iwant to see it.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I just want to see what it's all about, because
it's like okay, if it's sohorrible, why is it horrible?
I know.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I know, and maybe it is like I mean, what do you
think?
I don't think we need tomodernize every single Disney
movie.
Like if something is outdatedor not, like I'm fine with if
something's terrible and likehurting society, then by all
means, like we can like redo itnicely, but I think we don't
need to like change every singlething.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
No, I agree, I mean.
The thing is I think you shouldkeep stuff original.
Sometimes you may update alittle bit depending on what's
going on, but you still want tostay with the original storyline
.
Otherwise the audience is goingto get lost as to.
Okay, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
the audience is going to get lost as to, okay, what?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
are you doing?
What are you trying to show?
Yeah, exactly, Talking aboutshowing.
This is an interesting one here.
Meryl, do you like baseball?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I have to because my partner is obsessed.
So yes, I've watched threePadres games so far.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Well, he will definitely appreciate this story
.
Now we all know that thebaseball season has just started
.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yep, I have to Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
And the New York Yankees has hit around 15 home
runs in over three games.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Oh, yes, I saw this clip, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
And nine of those home runs, I believe was in one
game alone.
So now there's a bigcontroversy of the bats they're
using.
So the bats, I guess, have beenspecially designed for each
player.
They're custom.
Yeah, and they still fit intothe Major League and the

(48:37):
national league standards, sothey're not going.
They're not too big and they'renot too short or whatever.
But there's a big controversyand people are nicknaming them
the torpedo bats and it's givingthem an unfair advantage.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
I saw that we were watching the clip and I was
screaming.
Being like this isperformance-enhancing bats.
These are like the.
I'm like.
I know these players are good,but that is so nuts that it was
like one after another, afteranother after another.
I don't know, though, becausethen will this change?
Will every team look into thisnow?

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Is this a proprietary thing, oris this something that every
team can look into?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Well, I'm not sure if it's something that they went
to someone and they did it forthem or they custom designed it
within the team.
That I don't know.
But here's the thing about itIf New York Mets can do it, any
other team can do it, as well,exactly, that just seemed like
everyone was hitting so muchhome runs.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
It did seem like something fishy or just like not
fair.
But I guess, if it's fair, likegood for them for figuring it
out.
But I was screaming at the TVbeing like this is fixed.
This is fixed.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Hey, you know what?
They figured out how to build abetter mousetrap, exactly.
Yeah, I tip my hat off theyfigured out how to build a
better mousetrap, exactly.
Yeah, I tip my hat off.
I mean, as a sports fan, Ithink it's going to make the
game that much more interestingnow.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think they have to like.
Yeah, that's very true.
Is that now everyone shouldhave the right ability to do
that to customize it exactly forthem.
But what if, like, it makes itso easy for people to get home
runs that it's like not that?
What if it's too often thatpeople are getting home runs?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
that's a good point.
I mean, basically, really, thebat just kind of enhances the
skill that the person alreadyhas.
So you know, if they're a greatball hitter, they're really
going to be a great ball hitter,you know.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
If they're not that great of a hitter, maybe it
helps them become an averagehitter.
So I think what it could do ismake it more exciting, because,
you know, hitting a home rundoes excite the crowd.
Excite the crowd and I think bygetting more home runs, maybe
getting more baseline balls,it'll kind of speed the game up

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and it won't be this this justgrudge match to watch, because
yeah yes, I know a lot of peopledon't like watching baseball
because they feel it'sincredibly boring.
I can tell you, being there atthe park is much different than
watching it on tv totally agreed.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
100.
I feel like baseball is one ofmy favorite sports to go to go
hang out at and to go to games,but watching it is like oh my
gosh, you know, unless, like now, I've gotten to know some of
the players and I like some oflike the funny crowd shots and
just the things, but I agreeit's like it's really boring
sometimes yeah, so I think youknow what.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I be wrong, but I think it's going to add
excitement to the game and I'mwilling to bet you it's probably
not going to be a full season,maybe half the season.
Through that, one or more ofthe teams are going to start
cutting their own bets, and Icould be wrong, but I think
that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Do you have a team that you really like?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
You know what?
I'm more of a of a chicago fan,so I can, okay, yeah, tubs and
socks.
Um, I mean, I am a sports fan,my number one sports team, which
is the bears friday's years thechicago bears, but we'll see
how they go.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Football is way more exciting to watch, I think, in
my opinion, than baseball andeven basketball basketball is so
like slick and cool to watchthat, I think, in my opinion,
than baseball, even basketballBasketball is so slick and cool
to watch.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's true.
I think anything that's goingto give the game more excitement
and probably, at the same time,bring in more fans of hey go
for it.
I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
My last thing I was going to say about that.
When I was watching and it'slike the first three people are
getting home runs and imagine ifyou're the fourth person up and
you don't get a home run I'mlike oh, idiot, idiot, that's
such pressure.
It's like, okay, keep thestreak going.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yes, that is true.
That is true, we will see.
What do you think?
Do you think more teams aregonna?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
otherwise it's gonna be a little ridiculous if, like
the New York is like what teamwas it doing that again?
Was it the Mets?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
New York get the Mets .

Speaker 2 (53:05):
So it's gonna be crazy if, like every game, I'm
sorry, not the Mets in New YorkYankees.
Yankees.
Okay, the Yankees, yeah, yeah,so like I think they'll have to
adapt, or I hope that the MLB orwhatever doesn't like have to
go back on anything.
But I think if it gets to belike two in one direction,

(53:25):
people will have to like make amove one way or another.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
But yeah, I saw that that was crazy.
I was like, no, no, let's hopethat the Padres figure out a way
to do that for my own sanitythere you go my boyfriend was so
excited on opening day that hegot a nosebleed oh, wow, yeah,
that excitement, that excitementfor the game I know exactly.

(53:51):
But yeah, I like.
I just like to like look atwhich ones I think are cute.
Like I constantly rate who mycrushes are, I figure out a way
to watch everything but baseballwhen I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Hey, whatever works right.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Well, Meryl, this next one is yours.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Oh, oh, my God, did I Whoops?
I think I closed my thing byaccident.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I think you skipped one.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I did.
Oh yes, oh my gosh.
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I did.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Speaking of Disney, we just talked about Disney's
Snow White bombing.
It happened at a time whenDisney World and I can also add
for sure Disneyland is becomingvery unaffordable for the
average American families.
Disney has now become a veryluxury experience.
By the time you add in not evenfood or anything like that.

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Like not even food ormerchandise, but even just a
ticket itself can be like 194dollars per person, not even
counting tax.
And then if you wanted to addon, like the g pass or any of
the lightning passes and stuffyou know, so, um, back in the
day, like 50 years ago, a familyof four could visit for 262

(55:07):
dollars.
Of course we don't expect it tobe that much, but like a family
visiting for $700 just to getinto Disney.
Like not counting all the extraadd-ons and not even counting
the hotel and the airfare Like.
To me that's just it should notcount cost as much like to fly
there as to like have a vacationin Italy or something you know.

(55:28):
So I know for us too.
We used to go to Disneyland inAnaheim all the time and it just
became like I want to join myfriends, but the last time I'm
like I can't spend like $180today just to stand in line for
a few hours.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I don't blame you.
I think you hit it right on thehead Years ago, when my son was
very, very young.
We went and we went to I thinkit's Disney World.
That's in Florida, right.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So we went to Disney World and everyone told us how
expensive everything was orwhatever.
Well, what we did?
We kind of planned it out wherewe actually went to go eat
before we went to the parks.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh, that's smart, that's really smart.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
So, course, over, you know, over the time, you know
you still bought, you know,something to drink or something
to snack on, but you know itwasn't a $50 meal either, so it
wasn't as bad.
And then, like I said, my sonwas real young so there was a
lot of stuff that he got on, butsome stuff he couldn't, just
because of how small he was.

(56:30):
But it wasn't that bad if youplanned it out.
But I mean, if you're payingalmost $1,000 just to walk
through the game, I mean youknow some people can't afford
that.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Exactly, and it's funny because this whole article
is about how like it has becomeunaffordable for people.
But then the Catch-22 is thatthen it's like so it's also at
the same time so crowded therethat to you know the one in
disneyland too you could buy agenie pass or um, they have all
these like for 20 you could ridethe ride faster, and I'm like I

(57:03):
can't spend like 20 everysingle time I want to ride, to
ride it.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I have definitely added an extra like $120 onto
just writing the Star Wars thingand I'm like this is so crazy
oh yeah, and the thing is thatthe way they do it is, you know
you turn around and look you'relike I spent $500 here.
Yeah, you know it takes awayfrom it, I think, because I get

(57:32):
it.
They have to make money.
You know everyone has to makemoney.
They have to pay for everything, but you know it should be
within some kind of reach,though exactly.
There's a point of no returnwhere some people are going to
be like you know what.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
This is just too expensive, yep this article also
said that disney world ticketprices have grown at almost nine
times the rate of inflation andthat many elements of the
Disney experience that were oncefree now incur add-on fees.
So not only are you paying more, but you're getting less for
your spending, and I thinkthat's like how people feel,
where the Lightning Lanemulti-pass, which is like $40 a

(58:06):
day and it can be up to $15 perride.
So it's like so, if you're afamily of four and you're trying
to do like $15 per person perride, that's so much.
And so I wonder, I don't know,I wonder if, like, disney will
care or if they'll drop it down.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I mean, just think about it If you go in and you're
there right in the morning,either when it opens or right
after it opens, and you getthere right in the morning,
either when it opens or rightafter it opens, and you get on
10 rides where you want to tryand zoom past everyone at 15
bucks times four, you've spent600 bucks yeah, what you paid to
get in.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
And, like you said before, this doesn't even count.
Parking doesn't count, hotel,it doesn't, you know, count
airfare or, you know, gas,depending on whether you drove
or whether you flew.
I mean, we're talking about asituation where you're literally
paying thousands of dollars togo there exactly at some point
you gotta go.
Is this really worth it?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
yes, and I know they have like, uh, like in-state,
like local discounts, butthey're not even that much, and
that's if you also buy threedays in a row.
It definitely gets down alittle bit.
For us too, we have, which Ithink is for Disney World as
well, but there's Disneyland andthen there's California
Adventure, and then a lot oftimes it's an extra $90 to

(59:26):
upgrade to California Adventure.
I'm like, oh my god, this istruly becoming like $300 just to
get into this stupid place.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Oh yeah, I mean, I think it probably is good if you
can do it once in a lifetime.
Yeah, is this a place I'd goevery year?
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
No, it's so funny.
The only friends I have goingto Disneyland now are the ones
with no kids.
Only friends I have going toDisneyland now are the ones with
no kids.
It's like my my wealthy gaymarried couple, like my two, two
gay best friends that aremarried that like have a lot of
money and they just go toDisneyland a lot, and then
another couple that have dualincome, no children, so like
that's so ridiculous that youknow that's who's going now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, that is actually pretty interesting,
cause, like like we, that'swho's going now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, that is actually pretty interesting
Because, like there was a time afew years ago that we were
going so often that I truly waslike I can't, like I'm done with
Disney, I need a break.
And now it's just like that hasnot been a priority to spend
like over $300 on one day justto, you know, kind of ride, a
few rides and stand in line.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, I don't blame you.
I do not blame you at all, but,like I say, maybe I will go
back one day, not anytime soon,though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Exactly, I think you said it exactly like a once in a
decade type of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yes, yes, yes, I agree 100%.
Well, I would like to end thison a positive note.
Good, please.
I am very excited about thisstory.
I grew up in an era where theyhad vocational classes in high
school, meaning they had shopdrafting, accounting, woodshop,

(01:01:08):
you know all kinds of differenttrades.
Well, now there's a big thingwhere there's a return of
shopping vocational classes inhigh schools around the country,
and I commend them for it.
Yes, because a lot of peopleand I don't know why, but they
look down at vocational ortech-type training.
I mean, I don't know if peoplerealize this, but there is a

(01:01:32):
national shortage of dieselmechanics and it's only going to
get worse Of what mechanics?
Diesel mechanics.
Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah,okay, yep.
And then, plus, you still needplumbers, you still need
carpenters to build the homes.
Yep, these trades don't go away.
And we used to push this backin the day where, hey,

(01:01:53):
everyone's not going to go tocollege, but hey, here's another
option.
If you don't go to college oryou don't go to military, here's
a third option and I don'tthink that people should be
looked down on because theydecide you know what?
I want to be a carpenter.
I want to be a mechanic.
You know I want to be a CNCworking on machinery.
Or you know I want to be amechanic.
You know I want to be a cncworking on machinery.
Or you know I want to be.

(01:02:14):
You know there's so manydifferent technical uh technical
trades out there.
What do you think, merrill?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
oh my gosh.
I think, like, honestly, Ithink trade jobs are kind of
cooler now than like even justlike office jobs.
You know, like I I think Ithink some of the happiest
people that I know are like outthere building with their hands
or plumbing electricians.
I think that's so cool and Ithink, especially if someone
doesn't know if they want to goto college or they just can't

(01:02:42):
and they want to get right intothe workforce or right into the
vocational school, I think it'sso freaking cool.
I don't know who in their rightmind would like make fun or
look down upon these people.
If you do like, you have seriousissues, because I think it's
just like that's a, it's areally cool skill to have, and I
think, with AI replacing a lotof jobs like the kind of jobs
that I have, you know, like morewriting, copywriting, like it's

(01:03:05):
so smart to go into thesethings, because these are the
types of things that like, yeah,you may be working with robots
and everything, but they willstill need actual humans to
oversee the projects or at least, like put the hammer into the
nail and you know all that stuff.
So I'm a big, big fan of thatand I also agree.
Even growing up, like in highschool, I always thought the

(01:03:27):
woodworking class was so cooland just teaching people real
skills, and even like I wishthat, even if I didn't go to
school for it, I wish more likethey had.
I wish there was a class thatthey taught you more about cars,
or like you know that if youjust opened up a hood like I, no
one's really there to teach youthis kind of stuff.
So I think it's.

(01:03:47):
I think the more like tacticalstuff we can learn as a society,
the happier we're all going tobe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
That's true, and I think that learning a trade
gives you an extra option.
Yeah, if you're not sure whatto do with your life, you can
literally come out of school andmake a decent living without
having to work minimum wageAbsolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
And I just I feel like there shouldn't be a stigma
anymore about like more officejobs or like the white collar
stuff versus more trade jobs,because it doesn't even matter.
And I feel like, honestly, alot of the more office jobs are
kind of more soul draining andmore you know nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
So yeah, and you know the crazy thing, meryl, is that
college is getting more andmore more expensive.
Is that college is getting moreand more more expensive?
Yeah, and you know you have tothink about it.
You know you put on dependingon your major, what school you
go to.
I mean you can have debt ashigh as like $200,000 or more,
depending on what you're goinginto.
Yeah, and then you graduate,you're all excited, you got your

(01:04:47):
degree and everything andyou're making $30,000 a year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Now, before people get online and bash me there's
nothing wrong with $30,000 ayear, no, no.
But when you're expecting, hey,I done spent all this money
into this education.
A lot of kids come out withthis false sense of what they're
going to make, thinking they'regoing to make big out of high
school I mean out of college.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
That's not real yeah, I know they need to change the
narrative that like go morevocational thing and hands-on,
it's not like giving up or likefailing.
You're not doing this in aresponse to like not doing
college, you're doing it likeintentionally.
I think you know.
And also, even if you decide tonot even do that as a
profession, how good to knowwhen you become a homeowner or

(01:05:38):
something, how to be anelectrician or if you could fix
your own plumbing heck yeah, whywouldn't you want to?

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
do that, oh yeah, and sometimes kids come out of high
school and they have no ideawhat they want to do, right, and
I personally think that, okay,if you don't know what you want
to do, but you do know you wantto go to school, I think you
should do a community collegeuntil you figure it out.
Yeah, I have never been a bigsupporter of going to college

(01:06:08):
just for the sake of going tocollege.
Right, because you're justbasically putting on sake of
going to college, right, youknow, because you know you're
just basically putting on amortgage for no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, especially.
Like if you can do that withease of money, then like by all
means, go do that, that's fine.
Like go do that and have thatexperience.
But if you can't for any reason, or you just don't want to like
, it should the other path istotally fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
oh yeah, and again, college makes sense if you have
a plan where you want to be andit fits into that plan exactly.
And let's say, for example, ifyou want to be a mechanic, but
you know you're being pushed togo to college because you should
have a four-year degree, that'snot a good uh source of what
you should be doing with yourphone, right?
So it has to make sense becausereally a degree doesn't

(01:06:59):
guarantee anything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
It's just an extra tool in your toolbox that you
can use Yep and I think too,like even the vocational schools
down the road, if someone wantsto go into like, like civil
engineering or something, it'sgood to have a foundation of
knowing exactly what you'rebuilding and why, like it will
Down the road.
I think it will make peopleeven better job prospect if you
know about how to fix thesethings, plumbers owning their

(01:07:22):
own company, and it's actually areally good way to become a
business person.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I agree.
I agree, there's a lot ofoptions that you could go
through.
Me too.
You could probably tell how Iagree.
I agree, there's a lot ofoptions that you could go
through.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
So me too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You could probably tell how excited I am.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I was just going to say that's so funny.
I feel like I think this is thestrongest we have ever felt
about this, and, as someone thatI have, like literally no
vocational skills whatsoever,Like I think I am the
spokesperson of, like don't like, I feel like I, you know, I
went to school and did all theseoffice jobs and I'm like we are
not like smarter or better byany means, Like we are actually

(01:07:57):
more flawed humans.
So so yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
That was a great way to end.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It was, it totally was Well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Meryl, what do you have coming?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
up.
Oh my gosh, let's see Show,show wise.
Oh my gosh, let's see Show,show wise.
I'm going to give a plug tojust because I don't have a show
for another week or so Anotherkind of publication that I write
for called the LA Girl, whichis really cool.
This is so ridiculous, but formy job there I just went pickle

(01:08:28):
tasting and so it sounds prettyweird, but it's not vocation.
But you will see.
If people are interested inseeing more LA adventures, I
take a lot of video for that andjust kind of get some LA stuff.
So it's called the LA Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Nice, nice.
Now how can people see thatpublication?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
It's just called like if they go to like the LA Girl.
If you search it anywhere, youcan see.
So it's things happening in LA.
A lot of like travel, you know.
Just you know going aroundtasting different food.
I know you're a foodie, so youwould love.
Do you like pickles?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Oh, it's good.
There's a company called Kalenand Kalen Pickles out here and
they have like horseradishflavor.
It was really good, like allthe different types, so it's
really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
All right.
Well, I definitely need tocheck that out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll send you the link to
it.
It's really good.
I have my boyfriend had to tellme to stop, had gone to bed and
I was standing in front of thefridge drinking and he's like
Meryl, what are you doing?
So I guess that's not really anevent coming up, but that's
just more a confession to youguys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Thank you so much for watching.
We had such and such a greattime.
Always remember to support usby watching us and letting
people know who we are, and alsomake sure that you support my
girl, meryl, too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yay, thank you, you're the best.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Well, everyone, enjoy the rest of your day.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
And I'm Meryl Clemo.