November 17, 2025 • 41 mins
We open with a hard truth about hidden pain as a young NFL player dies by suicide, then move through money ethics, public safety, and the limits of technology with empathy and clear eyes. Along the way we share resources, challenge easy answers, and ask listeners to weigh tough choices.
• the gap between public success and private struggle
• practical ways to notice and support mental health
• 988 lifeline as immediate crisis support
• using a child’s savings versus ethical debt options
• government shutdown impacts on air travel safety
• harassment, security, and accountability in public office
• cloning pets, grief, and responsible tech priorities
• listener prompts on boundaries, money, and care
If someone you know is struggling with mental health challenges, emotional distress, or you’re in a crisis, please, please, please reach out for help. You can call or text 988 to reach the suicide and crisis lifeline or visit 988lifeline.org to chat with a with a trained counselor 24-7
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SPEAKER_03 (00:15):
Hello everyone.
Welcome to this week's episodeof Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
And I am Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_03 (00:25):
Hey Meryl, how are you?
SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Good.
I don't know why I wanted to sayI'm living large, but I've got I
think that was a term in the 90swhere I'm like, I'm not sure if
I'm living large or not, but I'mdoing very well.
SPEAKER_03 (00:36):
Okay, well that means you live large then,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
Exactly.
In a few different ways, I'mliving large.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's good.
I'm living medium or I'm livingextra small, or you know, like
just however we're feeling.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Hey, you know what?
You can start a new saying,right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
Yeah, I'm living large.
That is that's cool.
I feel like in this day and age,just like buying groceries is
living large.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01):
If you're able to buy groceries, no problem.
Yeah, you do you are livinglarge, unfortunately.
Well, um, I'm gonna start itoff.
Um, and this is actually on asad note.
Uh, Dallas Cowboys 2424-year-old defensive in, uh,
Marshawn Lelian, uh took his ownlife.
(01:25):
Um, and I know some people arethinking, what?
Um, it's true.
Dallas Cowboys defensive end,Marshawn Nealon, uh, 24 years
old, died by suicide um earlierthis month in November.
Authorities confirmed thatNealan died from an apparent
self-inflicted gunshot wound onThursday, November 6th, after a
(01:47):
police chase in Frisco, Tescas,uh, Texas.
I'm sorry.
Friends and family had contactedauthorities with concerns about
his well-being after he sent agoodbye text message to a group
chat.
Nealon, a second-year player whowas a second-round pick in the
2024 NFL draft, a belovedteammate, has family released a
(02:10):
statement calling him kind,determined, humble, and full of
love.
The NFL and the Cowboysorganization offer support and
counseling resources to playersand staff following the tragedy.
This is really sad.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
I know.
I wonder if it's a case as wellof, you know, when people get um
like all the scans from just thetraumatic brain injuries, and
even if it's not like showingright away or showing so um,
like so, you know, big in theirscans.
I wonder if it's just likesomething where the tr, you
know, a head concussion orsomething like that has led to
(02:45):
it.
It's a depression over time.
SPEAKER_03 (02:48):
It could be, it could be.
I I know that um there there wastalk about, you know, maybe he
was still kind of sad about hismother passing away.
Um, because you know, he wasdrafted last year.
I mean, so he's rooking.
SPEAKER_01 (03:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:03):
Mother two months prior to him um being picked in
a draft.
So there's rumors that you know,maybe that had something to do
with it.
Um but I I just I just thinkthat people need to understand
when it's when it comes tomental health, what you see on
(03:23):
the outside may not be what'sgoing on on the inside.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:26):
Because from the outside, people thinking, hey,
you're an NFL, you're young, youknow, you got all these millions
of dollars, you live in large,you're happy.
That doesn't money doesn't buyhappiness, and people need to
realize that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
I know.
And also um, you said it was apolice chase.
SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Oh, so I wonder if there was like other things
going involved with that, or youknow, just and and also
sometimes it what that sayinglike a a like a temporary fix,
or you know, like basically likea uh spur-of-the-moment thought
can be like obviously like alife-ending decision, where if
you're being chased by thepolice and you're just unsure of
maybe what they're going to findon you or the consequences, and
(04:05):
you think like, okay, how can Iget out of this really quick?
And you make like a veryimpulsive decision.
But it also sounded like it wassomething he was thinking about
because you said that he was hetexted his friends and family
and they were worried about him.
SPEAKER_03 (04:17):
Yeah, the text happened before the police
chase.
And from what I understand, hisfamily contacted the authorities
because of that text they werelooking for him, um, you know,
for obvious reasons.
And um, for whatever reason, youknow, he wanted to take his
life.
So I don't think it had anythingto do with anything in his car
(04:38):
or anything he was doing.
I think this this young man wasdealing with some serious,
serious uh emotional issues thateither no one saw or no one were
able to help, you know.
And he felt that this was hisonly option, which is pretty
sad.
SPEAKER_00 (04:56):
It is.
Do you think do sports teamsoffer like is there like a a
sports mental health therapistlike for each team?
SPEAKER_03 (05:05):
Well, I know the NFL is really, really good about
supporting their players.
Really?
A whole bunch of resources,whether it be dealing with
financing, uh, finances, whetherit's dealing with emotional,
emotional stress, physical.
There's I mean, any type ofassistance that you you need,
they have.
(05:26):
But the key is someone needs torecognize that the assistance is
needed.
Because the first person reachout and you know, they're
putting on this game face likeeverything's fine, because he
actually scored a touchdown inthat in a in the in a football
game.
He actually played a few daysbefore he took his took his
life.
So again, look on the outside,you know, you're thinking, wow,
(05:47):
he's on top of the world.
Everything's and you know,that's why I say you have to pay
attention when you talk topeople and really listen to a
person because it's easy to ask,hey, how you doing?
I'm doing good, and peoplemostly just leave it from there,
you know, have a littleconversation because you know,
even the slight thing is saying,Hey, you know what?
(06:09):
I love you, I'm proud of you,you know, you're doing great
things, you know, those littlethings can change someone's life
and you not even know it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I think a lot of people gowithout even talking to people
for like a whole week, or youknow, or even if they do,
obviously, this is an NFLplayer, so he was talking to a
lot of people, but it wasprobably more like surface layer
type conversation, or can I geta picture with you?
Can I get your autograph type ofstuff?
Um, but it does sound like hisfriends and family did the right
(06:39):
thing by like calling right awayand taking it seriously when he
said that he had some, you know,when he was saying goodbye to
them.
So very sad and and like it'scrazy to think how young he was.
Like we know because we'reolder, but it's like when you're
in your 20s or 30s, it's likeyou have to remember that is so,
so, so young.
SPEAKER_03 (06:57):
And you know, the thing too is you know, I mean,
God knows.
I hope I never get a text likethat from a family member or a
friend.
But you know, to me, you know,if I got a text like that,
obviously I'm gonna reach outand talk to the person because
you know, you'd be amazed.
(07:18):
Sometimes people reach out andwe get so busy in our everyday
lives that we don't notice it.
Yeah, and we kind of go like,yeah, yeah, it's all good, or or
someone will call and I'll givethem a call later.
You know, just pick up thephone, even just saying hello
and hey, how you doing?
What's going on?
Even if they don't open up toyou, just the idea that you're
showing them some attention andyou're showing them that you
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care can all make the bigdifference in someone's life,
especially if they're on adownward spin.
SPEAKER_00 (07:45):
A hundred percent.
Unless if any of my friends arelistening, please don't call me
because I don't want to becalling.
It's actually my friends callingand checking in that like drives
me to a mental illness, but butyeah, on a serious note, that it
is so sad for this guy, and andI'm sure like the whole
organization.
I don't I don't understand ifyou're a player or a cheerleader
(08:07):
or anyone you know involved withthat, like a coach, how you're
just able to like I hope thoseplayers are getting bereavement
and grief help just because likethat's such a big thing to have
one of your teammates pass awaylike that.
And just I'm sure, like, it'shard to I imagine go in and like
play a game and get your mindright when something like that
happens.
SPEAKER_03 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean it it's definitely difficult because you
know you got that on the back ofyour mind as you get that get in
the field, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (08:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:34):
Well before you start your your set your
segment, I do want to make thisquick note.
Um, I just want to let peopleknow that are watching or
listening.
If someone you know isstruggling with mental health
challenges, emotional distress,or you're in a crisis, please,
please, please reach out forhelp.
Um, you can call or text 988 toreach the suicide and crisis
(09:00):
lifeline or visit988lifeline.org to chat with a
with a trained counselor 24-7.
So um if you're struggling,please don't sit there and
struggle alone.
Uh definitely reach out becausethere is help out there for you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
I love that.
Very good.
And I think we underestimate howmuch we like affect other people
in a good way, too.
So I think some people will feeluseless, or like even if your
job or relationship isn't goingright, it's like the world still
needs you to like, you know, uhvolunteer in a homeless shelter
or volunteer with animals, orlike it's like everyone is still
very useful, even if like someeven if everything is going
(09:40):
wrong in your life, you're stilluseful to the greater good, you
know?
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
I agree.
SPEAKER_00 (09:46):
Well, I'm excited to uh share this next one with you,
only because I feel like we mayhave different opinions on it.
So I love this kind of stuffbecause I'm like, now you're a
dad and a good dad, so we'll seewhat your take is.
Um, it went viral last weekwhere a Mississippi man faced
backlash after he admitted tostealing thousands of dollars
(10:08):
from his son's savings account.
Now, Christian, a 28-year-oldpostal worker from Biloxi from
Mississippi, appeared on anepisode of Financial Audit, a
podcast hosted by financialadvisor Caleb Hammer, in which a
weekly guest gets grilled ontheir personal finances.
Um, I've seen it a lot of timeson TikTok.
The people that go on it arebrave because they'll be like,
(10:30):
Yeah, my car payment is$1,200 amonth.
I don't know if that's good orbad.
And like, of course, you know,it's kind of clickbait because
all of us are like, what theheck are you doing?
You know, or they'll say, like,I spend$800 a week uh getting my
nails done, but like I have nomoney and I'm filing bankruptcy
or whatever.
So on this episode, Christianadmitted that he paid for a
number of family trips on creditcards, but then he didn't, he
(10:53):
decided he didn't want to paythe high interest loans.
And then he borrowed from hisfour-year-old son's savings
account, which contained abouteight to ten thousand dollars to
pay off the credit cardsimmediately.
Um, a portion of the money hadcome from friends and family who
had uh given the money for thechild's future, you know, maybe
like a college fund or somethinglike that.
(11:14):
And the thing that gets me inthis article, I was like, okay,
I could see all of this until hedidn't tell his wife.
Um, and he didn't ask forpermission before it with his
wife.
And so then also since then,he's even garnered more debt
too.
So like it wasn't like he justpaid it off and then now he's
(11:34):
free and clear and he's startingto like put money back in the
account.
It's it's like, okay, I didthat.
Now I'm starting to like inch myway to getting even more debt.
So I feel like would would youdo that in the first place?
Or like if you had high creditcard debt, but you knew you had
$10,000 somewhere, would youborrow from it?
Or or would you just say that'slike so off limits?
SPEAKER_03 (11:56):
That's so off limits.
SPEAKER_00 (11:57):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
So off limits.
It really is.
The only time you should eventhink about doing that,
unfortunately, there are somefamilies that struggle really
bad financially, where you knowit's a matter of being able to
pay bills or put food on thetable.
Yeah, and you have to borrowfrom there.
Again, it's not an idealsituation, but I can see that
(12:19):
situation.
Just to pay off credit carddebt, that's not a reason.
That's not that's that's not areason.
And then on top of that, you payoff the credit card debt and
then get more debt.
And obviously, it sounds likethey're not really struggling
financially, so it sounds morelike money mismanagement.
(12:40):
And to sit there and take yourchild's money, you know, and you
don't even talk to the wifeabout it or anything, that is
kind of that is kind of suspect.
That really is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:50):
Oh, and this next part is gonna get you too.
Um, this we should also notethat the wife just joined the
military in hopes of likehelping the family pay off their
$90,000 in debt.
So so here you have the wifeworking and signing up for the
military to try to like do herpart and sign up and pay off the
debt, and then the father'ssolution to it all is just to go
(13:11):
into the kid's account.
SPEAKER_03 (13:13):
Um don't get mad when I ask this question, but
why didn't he sign up for themilitary instead of the white?
SPEAKER_00 (13:21):
I know, I know.
SPEAKER_03 (13:23):
Maybe I'm wrong, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:24):
Exactly.
And I'm I am not like a by anymeans a financial uh like
auditor or whatever, but but Ido think at certain points like
this, sometimes there is likethis is where I would go to like
a credit repair union or sometype of even like I mean it's
like so um so like you know, rapbig to do, but you could also
maybe like sign up forbankruptcy and like I know that
(13:46):
that totally tanks your debt andall that kind of stuff, but I
feel like in a situation whereyou have ninety thousand dollars
of debt, like it's not the worstidea.
And like after seven years, bythe time your kid is older,
you'll be able to rebuild fromthere.
But I just think like there'sother options basically, like
you could try to pay down yourcredit card getting into like a
program, or um, it just seemslike more options should have
(14:08):
been explored rather than takingthis money.
Now, now I thought at first itwas like, okay, I'm just going
to take this money, pay off thecredit card debt, and then like
slowly make payments again toreplenish the account, and
within like three years, he'llnever know.
But it doesn't sound like that'sthe case.
It sounds like he just grabbedfrom it.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
And you know, I guess there's a lot missing to
the story as to why did he getso far in debt?
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
Yeah, it sounds like the dad is totally like going to
Disneyland.
SPEAKER_03 (14:45):
Without really knowing the whole backstory.
SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
Yeah, it said that he admitted to paying for a
number of family trips to placeslike Disney World and the
Bahamas on credit card.
SPEAKER_03 (14:55):
Okay, I tried to give him some leeway, but that
didn't work.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Exactly.
And like, I mean, another optionif you're going to go down this
route too is you can always lookinto credit cards that do have
like a 12-month no interestrate, and you know, like go to
the Bahamas, that's fine, butlike, but do that and then spend
the rest of the year paying thatoff of your credit card, you
know, in those 12 months.
So it's like you can definitelybe financially non-responsible
(15:19):
in like a better way, but thisis just crazy.
Like$90,000 of debt of likeDisney and Bahamas is is
definitely a little much.
SPEAKER_03 (15:28):
Yeah, it's beyond much.
I mean, it's when again you gotto pay bills and you don't have
any money coming in, but to takeexotic trips and stuff like
that, and that's I'm guessingthat's probably not the only two
trips that they've taken.
Um that's really that's really abad look.
That's not true.
SPEAKER_00 (15:49):
I know.
And imagine if you're a friendor a family member and you've
given like$300 at a kid'sbirthday party, like with the
idea of like, okay, this isgoing to be a little nest egg
for the kid, and maybe it willhe'll invest it, and by the time
he's like 17, it will be$3,000or something.
So like I would not be happyknowing that my money is going
towards like a snack atDisneyland.
SPEAKER_03 (16:10):
Oh, absolutely.
So yeah, but um, I'm a truebeliever that what goes around
comes around, and you know, whenyou do stuff like this, it comes
back threefold in a bad way.
SPEAKER_01 (16:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:27):
Well, talk about coming back.
Um as of the shutdown that'sgoing on, uh, I know right now
they're talking about a possibleresolution to it, but until
people start signing paperwork,you know, I take it with a grain
of salt.
But as of right now, flights arebeing reduced by 10% because of
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the government shutdown.
Uh, the Federal AviationAdministration, FAA, is reducing
flights by up to 10% at 40 majorU.S.
airports due to a governmentshutdown.
This is a safety measure toreduce pressure on air traffic
controllers who are workingwithout pay and experiencing
(17:10):
staffic shortages and fatigue.
The reductions are being phasedin and they will likely cause
significant disruptions,including the delays and
cancellation, especially as theThanksgiving holiday approaches.
SPEAKER_00 (17:25):
Wow.
As if it can't get more crazywith just all of the flying and
the delays and the turbulenceand the cost of everything.
It's like, yeah, it's justcrazy.
SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
It really is.
And um, you know, a lot ofpeople are getting angry at some
of the air traffic controllersfor not showing up to work.
But here's the thing about it.
You know, how motivated wouldyou be going to work?
Now we're looking at what, abouta month and a half now with no
pain?
Yeah, yeah.
And let's say you're a family,you know, you have a family that
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you're taking care of, or let'ssay you're a single parent and
you have to pay for childcareand you have no money coming in.
It's really kind of hard to bemotivated to come into work.
SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Just say absolutely.
Anyone that's mad at the airtraffic controllers, I really
think it's like the wrong yourpassion can be used in a
different way, you know.
Like, I get it.
Of course, we're gonna be upsetwith them or just the airlines
in general, but like, and andthey're working on crazy hours.
I feel like a lot of them arejust struggling to stay awake,
like, you know, the conditionsare horrible.
And I I saw on TikTok somepeople say, like, well, why
(18:33):
can't they just get differentjobs?
You know, like what are they whyare they even air traffic
controllers?
I'm like, not everyone canchange their whole career in
like a month and you know, rightbefore the holidays.
So I I'm not mad at them either.
It's like if this was going onfor four years, then yes, maybe
they could consider a differentcareer or like pivot, but I
think asking someone to changetheir whole job and find a whole
(18:54):
new job in three weeks in thislike economy is a little cray
cray.
SPEAKER_03 (18:58):
It is, and also, too, it's really not a smart
comment to make because the lastthing you want is air traffic
controllers quitting.
I know what I'm saying is priorto the shutdown, there was
already a national shortage ofair traffic controllers, so
encouraging them to quit wouldbe stupid because now you're
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gonna make it catastrophic atthat point.
Exactly.
So what I heard that it takesanywhere from one to two years,
I believe, to get through thetraining, schooling, everything
to be an air traffic controller.
So this isn't something thateven if they had people that
they wanted to bring on, whatwill be fixed overnight?
SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
That's just I know.
I can't wait, or I can wait, butI feel like what if soon like
Waymo is gonna try to put in theair traffic controllers?
We know how Waymo does too.
Then planes will just be likedoing backflips in the air.
SPEAKER_03 (19:50):
That would scare the hell out of me.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
Yeah, right?
We've already, yeah, last weekwe talked about how like the
dangers of Waymo.
I feel like it would just becrazy.
Um, but yeah, hopefully thiswill blow over soon.
But in the meantime, I've beenseeing so many like pilots
making announcements just uhsoothing the passengers and
saying it's going to be okay.
Because I also feel like thenews is not helping by sharing
(20:11):
every week a different closecall or like a plane's wing may
clip the tail of another plane'swing, and it's just it just
seems like the wild west.
SPEAKER_03 (20:21):
Yeah, you know, I agree with you, Merrill.
But here's the problem everyonehas cameras on their phones, so
they kind of have to report onit.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:32):
But like I said, um this is just insane.
It's really insane.
So I would say buckle up for thebumpy ride ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (20:42):
Exactly.
If anyone wants some goodreading, I'm part of the I think
I mentioned it before that, butthe fear of flying Reddit page.
And so because I I used to go onit because it's the sweetest
group of people, and basically,like I used to be so scared on
planes, and I would you put yourflight number in, and people
would like track you when you'rein the air, and I would be
writing like I'm having a panicattack, and people would be
(21:02):
writing, like, okay, you'regoing over Montana, you're doing
great, you know, and it was thesweetest group, but now every
day someone's posting, like, I'mabout to get off the plane, I'm
gonna take the train instead,and like, but it's really cute
because there's pilots in thegroup too, so it does give um a
lot of insight on like what'shappening now, and just I give
so much credit to pilots forlike not only having the
(21:23):
knowledge they have, but tomaking us the common people feel
safe during this time, and likethey're trying to undo
everything and work in theseconditions, and like I I really
think pilots are like heroes, Ireally, really do.
Um, so and you know, the airtraffic controller people aren't
that far off to me.
It's a really important job.
And so I hope they get back towork soon.
(21:46):
But yeah, like if you're mad atthem, imagine someone asking you
to work two weeks or three weekswithout any pay and like
terrible conditions.
SPEAKER_03 (21:54):
I agree, I agree 100% on that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
If you see me posting in the fear of flying
page, mind keep your ownbusiness, keep your keep it to
yourself.
One time I was on it on a plane,and the man was like, What is
going on?
But well, that's crazy.
Um, next up, this is so funny.
So I didn't even know who thiswas.
I had to look it up to behonest, but uh people has named
(22:18):
their sexiest man alive in 2025,and it is actor Jonathan Bailey,
uh, who I did not really know.
He's English, he's 37.
Um, and apparently they say he'sbrimming with charm and wit and
handsome looks.
Now, in the past, I've kind ofhad some weird thoughts about
some of their like man of theyear, sexiest man alive, but
(22:40):
they usually pick like you know,kind of the it person, and he
became really popular inBridgerton, the Netflix series.
And then he's a prince inWicked, and he was really cute
in that.
So I feel like also I feel likethis is definitely just good
publicity for the next versionof Wicked.
So it's just someone's publicistdoing a really good job.
(23:00):
But um, I don't know.
How do you feel?
Do you as a as a man?
Are you jealous of him or do youthink he is one of the sexiest
men alive?
SPEAKER_03 (23:10):
Well, um I don't know if he's the sexiest man
alive.
I think I'm the sexiest manalive, but you know, that's just
my opinion.
SPEAKER_00 (23:19):
Your wife, your wife agrees.
SPEAKER_03 (23:23):
But you know, there there's so many of these
different things out there.
Hey, you know what?
If he's got that that title, Isay embrace it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
I think so too.
And I get it's one of thosethings that I feel like beauty
and attractiveness is definitelya lot of times in the eye of the
beholder.
Like there's certain people thatwere just like, okay, like
Margot Robbie or something, it'sjust pretty much like we can all
agree that she is attract anattractive human, you know.
And like I think when Brad Pittwas voted that, it's like, okay,
this is like an attractive man.
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I don't know about sexiest manalive, but um, I think he takes
it in good stride.
And this seems like someone I'veseen in interviews with him, and
he I think he it it has notgotten to his head.
I think he thinks it's verysilly.
And um, in the interview, theyasked, Have you told anyone
about this?
And he said he like told his dogwho just looked at him and like
the dog doesn't care.
So I think that's cute.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
Hey, he's taking it in a stride, I like that.
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, so so this is interesting.
I didn't know about JonathanBailey, but I'm very happy for
him, and he seems really funnyand nice.
SPEAKER_03 (24:28):
Well, at least he's not arrogant about it, so that's
a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
Yeah, he seems very silly.
And they asked him like what hisfavorite thing to do at a party
is, and he said leave.
So I'm like, that's that's kindof cool.
And just a quick, a really quickrundown before um some of the
former sexiest men alive,Patrick Dempsey, um, Matthew
McConaughey, of course, BlakeShelton, John Legend, and
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Channing Tatum are just a few.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Nice, nice list.
SPEAKER_00 (24:58):
Yep, pretty good list.
Oh, Ryan Reynolds.
Sorry, I'm I'm revoking thatone.
I don't think so.
Sorry.
I'm sorry for everyone thatloves Ryan Reynolds, but I'm
closing the issue on that one.
SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
My last topic for this episode is that Mexico's
president is pressing chargesafter being groped in public.
What?
Oh yes.
Mexico's president, ClaudiaShibum, uh, is pressing charges
against a man who groped her inpublic in Mexico City on
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Tuesday, November 4th.
Shibum, Mexico's first femalepresident, was walking between
the National Palace and theeducation industry when a man
approached her from behind andput his arm around her, touched
her chest, and attempted to kissher before a staff member
intervened.
The man who was reportedlyinebriated uh has been arrested.
(25:57):
Dunfum, uh I'm sorry, she bumannounced she was pressing
charges not only for herself buton behalf of all Mexican women
who experience daily harassment,stating if this happens to the
president, what becomes of theMexican women?
She is also calling for a reviewof laws to make sexual
harassment a criminal offense inall Mexican states, and has
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launched a nationwide campaignto raise awareness and defend
the integrity of women.
President has dismissedsuggestions to increase her
security detail, emphasizing theneed to stay close to the
people.
SPEAKER_00 (26:37):
Wow.
That's so funny that in the US,it's like our political leaders
that are doing the weirdharassing.
So, yeah, I mean that's so cool.
We were in Mexico once um whenshe was uh like had a rally for
her.
So I actually got to see hertalk in person, which is really
cool.
We were completely we were inPuerto Vallarta, and we didn't
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had no clue that it was orEntonada and we had no clue that
anything was happening.
We walked right up and then shewas giving her speech right
before she got elected.
And I'm like, that's super cool.
I got to see like a presidenttalk.
So she seems so intelligent andgreat.
Of course, this should happen tono no women whatsoever, but um,
I love that she like took itseriously right away and was
(27:18):
like, nope, we're changing this,and not saying like, I have
feelings about this, but it'slike okay, we're gonna put into
real laws um consequences sothat this doesn't happen as
often.
SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean, obviously the laws in Mexico are
different than the United Stateswhen it comes to but I disagree
with her as far as the detailbecause here's the reality in
the United States, you know,she's basically the equivalent
of the president here of theUnited States in her country.
Yeah, you cannot get that closeto the leader of the country.
SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
I mean, to have this guy be able to get up close to
her, get behind her, and thengrope her and try to kiss her.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
I know.
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
How does that even happen for someone that has that
status?
I think she's wrong.
She needs to up her detailbecause that guy should have
never gotten that close.
I mean, you try and get close tothe president of the United
States, yeah, you're probablygonna be leaving um in a bag.
You know, you trust.
SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
I know, yeah.
And you would think the securitydetail right away, like would
just toss him or you know, likearrest him or whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (28:32):
My thing is, what was the detail?
Because again, how is he able toget that close to her?
SPEAKER_00 (28:37):
I know.
I don't know.
That's that's weird, and it'salso there's so many people that
are so delusional, too, whereit's like, okay, they think they
have a right to you, orsometimes people think they know
someone, or like the fact thathe went up and kissed her is
like that, must be really spookyand gross, and like you know, I
I I think of Obama as someonethat like really is with the
people, and I'm sure I of coursehe has like great detail, but I
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feel like he during his liketerm and especially now too,
like I've seen him in crowds, orlike he doesn't seem to be very
far away a lot.
He seems to like you know bereachable, but maybe that's just
like an optical illusion, andand he's less um like of course
no one would go up to him likethat, but I don't know.
I feel like I see him likehigh-fiving people a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
He does, but you know, the one thing to keep in
mind, and most people don't payattention, but you always see
one or two secret service rightnext to you.
Yeah, yeah.
And those are the ones that yousee because there's also you
know, I kind of like watchingdocumentaries and stuff like
this, and you know, sobasically, I saw this episode
about the Secret Service, and alot of times there's one or two
(29:44):
that they purposely want you tosee, and there's a large number
of them around that person thatyou don't see.
They literally blend in thecrowd.
SPEAKER_00 (29:53):
Exactly.
But it's funny, I love watchingvideos when they try to just
when those men try to act normaland they're wearing like Like
everyday sneakers, becauseusually they're so buff anyway.
And it's like, okay, you even ona plane, sometimes if there's
like a undercover cop orsomething, it's like they try to
look and blend in, but they'relike bursting out of their
blazer and they have like reallynice shoes on, and it's like,
(30:15):
okay, you don't look like therest of us, like heading to
Walmart.
So uh in the a lot of times theyhave like snipers up at the top,
you know, like so it's likethey're positioned in all
different places.
And who knows, like a secretservice person might have
thought that the guy was goingin to like knife her or
something, you know, you don'tknow if he's gonna kiss her or
like stab her or whatever.
So it's really freaky.
(30:36):
And um I think there should bemuch more of a punishment just
like in our society if you'reharassing someone, but then it
gets tricky because then it'slike you know, if you if you
start like arresting people,like what if someone says they
were harassed and they reallywere?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (30:51):
I feel like it's a slippery slope, but um, if
there's like it all dependsbecause you know, in this
country, if you call someone andsay you're gonna do something to
the president, you're going toget some visitors at your door.
Really, really fast.
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
Uh yeah, true.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
In fact, there was a story uh about a gentleman in
the suburbs here in Illinois.
I don't know what was hedrinking, but he did that.
And yeah, he was visited by lawenforcement.
Really?
Both federal and local, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Yeah, that's why in my text they always say, like,
FBI, if you're reading this, I'mjust kidding.
Wow, well, that's interesting.
But so we'll yeah, we'll seeabout that.
But uh, very interesting, andI'm glad she's standing up for
herself.
And also, that's so cool that acut I don't know what people
think of her.
I actually don't really know,but I think that's so cool that
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a country has a woman president.
SPEAKER_03 (31:45):
Yeah, it's long overdue.
SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
Yep, maybe one day in the US in 2091.
Well, you know, who might get tosee this uh one day, a woman be
president is Tom Brady's clonedog.
It's because he'll be around forlong enough, or maybe like the
fifth iteration of it.
Um, so on uh last week, TomBrady casually dropped the
(32:07):
bombshell that his new dog,Juni, is a clone of the family's
former Pitmix, Lua, who died inDecember 2023.
So um the cloning was carriedout by a company called Colossal
Biosciences, which very muchsounds like a Tom Cruise kind of
movie.
Uh, so they used a blood sampletaken from Lua when she was
(32:28):
still alive, and then um, youknow, then you have a dog pretty
much that use the technology andthey're able to clone it.
And obviously, like it's notLua, it's not the original dog.
It's pretty much, you know, theytake the biomarkers and put that
in, and the dog has like a lotof the same DNA and a lot of the
same makeup, but like I thinkour version, we're thinking very
(32:49):
sci-fi in the way where we thinkit's like an exact replica, but
really the technology is justusing some of its um biomarkers
and genetic material.
SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Yeah, I know that uh a lot of animal activists really
got angry at him for doing thatbecause they've felt that with
all the dogs, there's inshelters, you can use the
dogness and that's true, and Iget it, but I don't think they
should really worry about peoplefollowing this trend.
Um at 50,000$50,000 or crack todo this, yeah, it's not gonna be
(33:26):
a whole lot of people doingthis, so I don't think you have
anything to worry about.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
I know, me too.
I have such like thoughts onthis topic because like I I had
like I I love, love, love mydogs, and I feel like my dogs
were like my family, and I hadone that passed away like a few
years ago, and it it just it'slike so weird because part of
me, of course, would love tohave like a lineage of dogs that
even has like a tenth of apercent of the dog that I the OG
dog that I love so much, butthen it's like at some point you
(33:52):
just have to go through the painof like that dog passed away.
Now I'm now I'm ready for like awhole new dog experience, you
know.
And you're right, like I I gotthat dog from a um a rescue, and
it's like I would have neverknown about that dog if I was
just trying to recreate likefive dogs ago, you know.
So it's really interesting.
I wish we could almost do bothand like somehow like put it
(34:14):
into a dog that's already inlike a rescue, and you kind of
get the best of both worlds.
SPEAKER_03 (34:19):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I I know they're doingDNA to try and bring back um
extinct animals and stuff likethis.
I really hope they kind of putthat effort more towards organs.
Um I think if they were able toto clone organs, uh, it will
save a lot of people's livesthat are on the waiting list for
(34:41):
so many years for an organtransplant, you know, based on
their conditions.
SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
So exactly.
Remember, they were like, yeah,they were like, the wolf, the
dire wolf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like, no, we didn'tclone a dire wolf, we're able to
like take a little bit of itsDNA and like figure out what it
is and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (34:59):
And actually, that wasn't even a pure direwolf
because it was the DNA of adirewolf and another species.
SPEAKER_00 (35:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:07):
So it's it was a quote unquote pure dire wolf,
either.
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
Yeah, but that's part of the human experience of
just like unfortunately losinganimals and people that we love.
And it's like you can try to.
I mean, it doesn't help it, youknow, you could try to clone
that them and still have like apiece of them alive, but it's
not the same like essence ofsomeone or something, I think.
SPEAKER_03 (35:29):
Yeah, it kind of brings you really, really close
to an ethical line.
Um, because I'm quite suresomeone has thought about trying
to do this, and hopefullythey're about cloning a human
being, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
I know.
If anything, it would be amazingto have it like if my dog wasn't
neutered at the time, like to toif I was to like have puppies,
his puppies and stuff, and thatwould be so cool to like be
like, okay, like hisgreat-grandfather was like the
dog love of my life, and now Ihave like this lineage of dogs
that I don't sell, but you justhave as like your own family.
(36:03):
But um, yeah, it's tricky.
I feel like normally I'd belike, ew, this is disgusting,
but I feel like dogsspecifically I I love so much
that I'm like I understand thefeeling of wanting to like hold
on to them forever.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
That's true, that's true.
But you know, again, I I thinkthat um technology, if used
correctly, uh does benefitmankind, it really does.
SPEAKER_00 (36:25):
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Was that my last one for today?
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
That was your last one.
SPEAKER_00 (36:31):
Oh my gosh, that flew by.
SPEAKER_03 (36:33):
Yes, it did.
Well, Meryl, uh, tell us what doyou have coming?
SPEAKER_00 (36:37):
Yay, okay.
You'll never have to hear aboutit again after this week, but
I'm gonna promote my show um atthe La Jolla Comedy Store by the
time you're at uh La JollaComedy Store, and it's with Tom
Arnold, and I'm the host.
SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
Nice, nice.
And what date is that again?
SPEAKER_00 (36:56):
Um, well, I'm realizing that it's actually I
think it might have passed bythe time it comes out.
If this comes, it actually itcomes out on Wednesday.
So, or my show is on Wednesday.
So if you're if you've if you'vemissed it completely, then I'm
just gonna tell you that it wasa really good show.
I'm gonna use this time topromote the show that already
happened.
That it was so good I'd want toclone it.
SPEAKER_03 (37:17):
Well, we'll have it out there beforehand.
So people okay, cool.
Okay, good.
Well, everyone, thank you somuch for watching us and
listening to us.
Uh, we had a great time, greatconversations.
Don't forget to go to our socialmedia.
Um, give us some ideas or sometopics that you know maybe you
want us to discuss, maybe someshow ideas, or maybe even uh
(37:39):
your uh reactions to some of thetopics that we had on our show
today.
SPEAKER_00 (37:43):
Yeah, I want to know if they would take money from
their kids' savings account.
SPEAKER_03 (37:46):
That would be a really good subject to know.
Well, everyone, I'm LawrenceElrod.
SPEAKER_00 (37:53):
I'm Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
Take care, everyone.
SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
Bye bye.
Hello everyone.
Welcome to this week's episodeof Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
And I am Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_03 (00:25):
Hey Meryl, how are you?
SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Good.
I don't know why I wanted to sayI'm living large, but I've got I
think that was a term in the 90swhere I'm like, I'm not sure if
I'm living large or not, but I'mdoing very well.
SPEAKER_03 (00:36):
Okay, well that means you live large then,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
Exactly.
In a few different ways, I'mliving large.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's good.
I'm living medium or I'm livingextra small, or you know, like
just however we're feeling.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Hey, you know what?
You can start a new saying,right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
Yeah, I'm living large.
That is that's cool.
I feel like in this day and age,just like buying groceries is
living large.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01):
If you're able to buy groceries, no problem.
Yeah, you do you are livinglarge, unfortunately.
Well, um, I'm gonna start itoff.
Um, and this is actually on asad note.
Uh, Dallas Cowboys 2424-year-old defensive in, uh,
Marshawn Lelian, uh took his ownlife.
(01:25):
Um, and I know some people arethinking, what?
Um, it's true.
Dallas Cowboys defensive end,Marshawn Nealon, uh, 24 years
old, died by suicide um earlierthis month in November.
Authorities confirmed thatNealan died from an apparent
self-inflicted gunshot wound onThursday, November 6th, after a
(01:47):
police chase in Frisco, Tescas,uh, Texas.
I'm sorry.
Friends and family had contactedauthorities with concerns about
his well-being after he sent agoodbye text message to a group
chat.
Nealon, a second-year player whowas a second-round pick in the
2024 NFL draft, a belovedteammate, has family released a
(02:10):
statement calling him kind,determined, humble, and full of
love.
The NFL and the Cowboysorganization offer support and
counseling resources to playersand staff following the tragedy.
This is really sad.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
I know.
I wonder if it's a case as wellof, you know, when people get um
like all the scans from just thetraumatic brain injuries, and
even if it's not like showingright away or showing so um,
like so, you know, big in theirscans.
I wonder if it's just likesomething where the tr, you
know, a head concussion orsomething like that has led to
(02:45):
it.
It's a depression over time.
SPEAKER_03 (02:48):
It could be, it could be.
I I know that um there there wastalk about, you know, maybe he
was still kind of sad about hismother passing away.
Um, because you know, he wasdrafted last year.
I mean, so he's rooking.
SPEAKER_01 (03:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:03):
Mother two months prior to him um being picked in
a draft.
So there's rumors that you know,maybe that had something to do
with it.
Um but I I just I just thinkthat people need to understand
when it's when it comes tomental health, what you see on
(03:23):
the outside may not be what'sgoing on on the inside.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:26):
Because from the outside, people thinking, hey,
you're an NFL, you're young, youknow, you got all these millions
of dollars, you live in large,you're happy.
That doesn't money doesn't buyhappiness, and people need to
realize that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
I know.
And also um, you said it was apolice chase.
SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Oh, so I wonder if there was like other things
going involved with that, or youknow, just and and also
sometimes it what that sayinglike a a like a temporary fix,
or you know, like basically likea uh spur-of-the-moment thought
can be like obviously like alife-ending decision, where if
you're being chased by thepolice and you're just unsure of
maybe what they're going to findon you or the consequences, and
(04:05):
you think like, okay, how can Iget out of this really quick?
And you make like a veryimpulsive decision.
But it also sounded like it wassomething he was thinking about
because you said that he was hetexted his friends and family
and they were worried about him.
SPEAKER_03 (04:17):
Yeah, the text happened before the police
chase.
And from what I understand, hisfamily contacted the authorities
because of that text they werelooking for him, um, you know,
for obvious reasons.
And um, for whatever reason, youknow, he wanted to take his
life.
So I don't think it had anythingto do with anything in his car
(04:38):
or anything he was doing.
I think this this young man wasdealing with some serious,
serious uh emotional issues thateither no one saw or no one were
able to help, you know.
And he felt that this was hisonly option, which is pretty
sad.
SPEAKER_00 (04:56):
It is.
Do you think do sports teamsoffer like is there like a a
sports mental health therapistlike for each team?
SPEAKER_03 (05:05):
Well, I know the NFL is really, really good about
supporting their players.
Really?
A whole bunch of resources,whether it be dealing with
financing, uh, finances, whetherit's dealing with emotional,
emotional stress, physical.
There's I mean, any type ofassistance that you you need,
they have.
(05:26):
But the key is someone needs torecognize that the assistance is
needed.
Because the first person reachout and you know, they're
putting on this game face likeeverything's fine, because he
actually scored a touchdown inthat in a in the in a football
game.
He actually played a few daysbefore he took his took his
life.
So again, look on the outside,you know, you're thinking, wow,
(05:47):
he's on top of the world.
Everything's and you know,that's why I say you have to pay
attention when you talk topeople and really listen to a
person because it's easy to ask,hey, how you doing?
I'm doing good, and peoplemostly just leave it from there,
you know, have a littleconversation because you know,
even the slight thing is saying,Hey, you know what?
(06:09):
I love you, I'm proud of you,you know, you're doing great
things, you know, those littlethings can change someone's life
and you not even know it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I think a lot of people gowithout even talking to people
for like a whole week, or youknow, or even if they do,
obviously, this is an NFLplayer, so he was talking to a
lot of people, but it wasprobably more like surface layer
type conversation, or can I geta picture with you?
Can I get your autograph type ofstuff?
Um, but it does sound like hisfriends and family did the right
(06:39):
thing by like calling right awayand taking it seriously when he
said that he had some, you know,when he was saying goodbye to
them.
So very sad and and like it'scrazy to think how young he was.
Like we know because we'reolder, but it's like when you're
in your 20s or 30s, it's likeyou have to remember that is so,
so, so young.
SPEAKER_03 (06:57):
And you know, the thing too is you know, I mean,
God knows.
I hope I never get a text likethat from a family member or a
friend.
But you know, to me, you know,if I got a text like that,
obviously I'm gonna reach outand talk to the person because
you know, you'd be amazed.
(07:18):
Sometimes people reach out andwe get so busy in our everyday
lives that we don't notice it.
Yeah, and we kind of go like,yeah, yeah, it's all good, or or
someone will call and I'll givethem a call later.
You know, just pick up thephone, even just saying hello
and hey, how you doing?
What's going on?
Even if they don't open up toyou, just the idea that you're
showing them some attention andyou're showing them that you
(07:40):
care can all make the bigdifference in someone's life,
especially if they're on adownward spin.
SPEAKER_00 (07:45):
A hundred percent.
Unless if any of my friends arelistening, please don't call me
because I don't want to becalling.
It's actually my friends callingand checking in that like drives
me to a mental illness, but butyeah, on a serious note, that it
is so sad for this guy, and andI'm sure like the whole
organization.
I don't I don't understand ifyou're a player or a cheerleader
(08:07):
or anyone you know involved withthat, like a coach, how you're
just able to like I hope thoseplayers are getting bereavement
and grief help just because likethat's such a big thing to have
one of your teammates pass awaylike that.
And just I'm sure, like, it'shard to I imagine go in and like
play a game and get your mindright when something like that
happens.
SPEAKER_03 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean it it's definitely difficult because you
know you got that on the back ofyour mind as you get that get in
the field, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (08:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:34):
Well before you start your your set your
segment, I do want to make thisquick note.
Um, I just want to let peopleknow that are watching or
listening.
If someone you know isstruggling with mental health
challenges, emotional distress,or you're in a crisis, please,
please, please reach out forhelp.
Um, you can call or text 988 toreach the suicide and crisis
(09:00):
lifeline or visit988lifeline.org to chat with a
with a trained counselor 24-7.
So um if you're struggling,please don't sit there and
struggle alone.
Uh definitely reach out becausethere is help out there for you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
I love that.
Very good.
And I think we underestimate howmuch we like affect other people
in a good way, too.
So I think some people will feeluseless, or like even if your
job or relationship isn't goingright, it's like the world still
needs you to like, you know, uhvolunteer in a homeless shelter
or volunteer with animals, orlike it's like everyone is still
very useful, even if like someeven if everything is going
(09:40):
wrong in your life, you're stilluseful to the greater good, you
know?
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
I agree.
SPEAKER_00 (09:46):
Well, I'm excited to uh share this next one with you,
only because I feel like we mayhave different opinions on it.
So I love this kind of stuffbecause I'm like, now you're a
dad and a good dad, so we'll seewhat your take is.
Um, it went viral last weekwhere a Mississippi man faced
backlash after he admitted tostealing thousands of dollars
(10:08):
from his son's savings account.
Now, Christian, a 28-year-oldpostal worker from Biloxi from
Mississippi, appeared on anepisode of Financial Audit, a
podcast hosted by financialadvisor Caleb Hammer, in which a
weekly guest gets grilled ontheir personal finances.
Um, I've seen it a lot of timeson TikTok.
The people that go on it arebrave because they'll be like,
(10:30):
Yeah, my car payment is$1,200 amonth.
I don't know if that's good orbad.
And like, of course, you know,it's kind of clickbait because
all of us are like, what theheck are you doing?
You know, or they'll say, like,I spend$800 a week uh getting my
nails done, but like I have nomoney and I'm filing bankruptcy
or whatever.
So on this episode, Christianadmitted that he paid for a
number of family trips on creditcards, but then he didn't, he
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decided he didn't want to paythe high interest loans.
And then he borrowed from hisfour-year-old son's savings
account, which contained abouteight to ten thousand dollars to
pay off the credit cardsimmediately.
Um, a portion of the money hadcome from friends and family who
had uh given the money for thechild's future, you know, maybe
like a college fund or somethinglike that.
(11:14):
And the thing that gets me inthis article, I was like, okay,
I could see all of this until hedidn't tell his wife.
Um, and he didn't ask forpermission before it with his
wife.
And so then also since then,he's even garnered more debt
too.
So like it wasn't like he justpaid it off and then now he's
(11:34):
free and clear and he's startingto like put money back in the
account.
It's it's like, okay, I didthat.
Now I'm starting to like inch myway to getting even more debt.
So I feel like would would youdo that in the first place?
Or like if you had high creditcard debt, but you knew you had
$10,000 somewhere, would youborrow from it?
Or or would you just say that'slike so off limits?
SPEAKER_03 (11:56):
That's so off limits.
SPEAKER_00 (11:57):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
So off limits.
It really is.
The only time you should eventhink about doing that,
unfortunately, there are somefamilies that struggle really
bad financially, where you knowit's a matter of being able to
pay bills or put food on thetable.
Yeah, and you have to borrowfrom there.
Again, it's not an idealsituation, but I can see that
(12:19):
situation.
Just to pay off credit carddebt, that's not a reason.
That's not that's that's not areason.
And then on top of that, you payoff the credit card debt and
then get more debt.
And obviously, it sounds likethey're not really struggling
financially, so it sounds morelike money mismanagement.
(12:40):
And to sit there and take yourchild's money, you know, and you
don't even talk to the wifeabout it or anything, that is
kind of that is kind of suspect.
That really is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:50):
Oh, and this next part is gonna get you too.
Um, this we should also notethat the wife just joined the
military in hopes of likehelping the family pay off their
$90,000 in debt.
So so here you have the wifeworking and signing up for the
military to try to like do herpart and sign up and pay off the
debt, and then the father'ssolution to it all is just to go
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into the kid's account.
SPEAKER_03 (13:13):
Um don't get mad when I ask this question, but
why didn't he sign up for themilitary instead of the white?
SPEAKER_00 (13:21):
I know, I know.
SPEAKER_03 (13:23):
Maybe I'm wrong, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:24):
Exactly.
And I'm I am not like a by anymeans a financial uh like
auditor or whatever, but but Ido think at certain points like
this, sometimes there is likethis is where I would go to like
a credit repair union or sometype of even like I mean it's
like so um so like you know, rapbig to do, but you could also
maybe like sign up forbankruptcy and like I know that
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that totally tanks your debt andall that kind of stuff, but I
feel like in a situation whereyou have ninety thousand dollars
of debt, like it's not the worstidea.
And like after seven years, bythe time your kid is older,
you'll be able to rebuild fromthere.
But I just think like there'sother options basically, like
you could try to pay down yourcredit card getting into like a
program, or um, it just seemslike more options should have
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been explored rather than takingthis money.
Now, now I thought at first itwas like, okay, I'm just going
to take this money, pay off thecredit card debt, and then like
slowly make payments again toreplenish the account, and
within like three years, he'llnever know.
But it doesn't sound like that'sthe case.
It sounds like he just grabbedfrom it.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
And you know, I guess there's a lot missing to
the story as to why did he getso far in debt?
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
Yeah, it sounds like the dad is totally like going to
Disneyland.
SPEAKER_03 (14:45):
Without really knowing the whole backstory.
SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
Yeah, it said that he admitted to paying for a
number of family trips to placeslike Disney World and the
Bahamas on credit card.
SPEAKER_03 (14:55):
Okay, I tried to give him some leeway, but that
didn't work.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Exactly.
And like, I mean, another optionif you're going to go down this
route too is you can always lookinto credit cards that do have
like a 12-month no interestrate, and you know, like go to
the Bahamas, that's fine, butlike, but do that and then spend
the rest of the year paying thatoff of your credit card, you
know, in those 12 months.
So it's like you can definitelybe financially non-responsible
(15:19):
in like a better way, but thisis just crazy.
Like$90,000 of debt of likeDisney and Bahamas is is
definitely a little much.
SPEAKER_03 (15:28):
Yeah, it's beyond much.
I mean, it's when again you gotto pay bills and you don't have
any money coming in, but to takeexotic trips and stuff like
that, and that's I'm guessingthat's probably not the only two
trips that they've taken.
Um that's really that's really abad look.
That's not true.
SPEAKER_00 (15:49):
I know.
And imagine if you're a friendor a family member and you've
given like$300 at a kid'sbirthday party, like with the
idea of like, okay, this isgoing to be a little nest egg
for the kid, and maybe it willhe'll invest it, and by the time
he's like 17, it will be$3,000or something.
So like I would not be happyknowing that my money is going
towards like a snack atDisneyland.
SPEAKER_03 (16:10):
Oh, absolutely.
So yeah, but um, I'm a truebeliever that what goes around
comes around, and you know, whenyou do stuff like this, it comes
back threefold in a bad way.
SPEAKER_01 (16:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:27):
Well, talk about coming back.
Um as of the shutdown that'sgoing on, uh, I know right now
they're talking about a possibleresolution to it, but until
people start signing paperwork,you know, I take it with a grain
of salt.
But as of right now, flights arebeing reduced by 10% because of
(16:48):
the government shutdown.
Uh, the Federal AviationAdministration, FAA, is reducing
flights by up to 10% at 40 majorU.S.
airports due to a governmentshutdown.
This is a safety measure toreduce pressure on air traffic
controllers who are workingwithout pay and experiencing
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staffic shortages and fatigue.
The reductions are being phasedin and they will likely cause
significant disruptions,including the delays and
cancellation, especially as theThanksgiving holiday approaches.
SPEAKER_00 (17:25):
Wow.
As if it can't get more crazywith just all of the flying and
the delays and the turbulenceand the cost of everything.
It's like, yeah, it's justcrazy.
SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
It really is.
And um, you know, a lot ofpeople are getting angry at some
of the air traffic controllersfor not showing up to work.
But here's the thing about it.
You know, how motivated wouldyou be going to work?
Now we're looking at what, abouta month and a half now with no
pain?
Yeah, yeah.
And let's say you're a family,you know, you have a family that
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you're taking care of, or let'ssay you're a single parent and
you have to pay for childcareand you have no money coming in.
It's really kind of hard to bemotivated to come into work.
SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Just say absolutely.
Anyone that's mad at the airtraffic controllers, I really
think it's like the wrong yourpassion can be used in a
different way, you know.
Like, I get it.
Of course, we're gonna be upsetwith them or just the airlines
in general, but like, and andthey're working on crazy hours.
I feel like a lot of them arejust struggling to stay awake,
like, you know, the conditionsare horrible.
And I I saw on TikTok somepeople say, like, well, why
(18:33):
can't they just get differentjobs?
You know, like what are they whyare they even air traffic
controllers?
I'm like, not everyone canchange their whole career in
like a month and you know, rightbefore the holidays.
So I I'm not mad at them either.
It's like if this was going onfor four years, then yes, maybe
they could consider a differentcareer or like pivot, but I
think asking someone to changetheir whole job and find a whole
(18:54):
new job in three weeks in thislike economy is a little cray
cray.
SPEAKER_03 (18:58):
It is, and also, too, it's really not a smart
comment to make because the lastthing you want is air traffic
controllers quitting.
I know what I'm saying is priorto the shutdown, there was
already a national shortage ofair traffic controllers, so
encouraging them to quit wouldbe stupid because now you're
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gonna make it catastrophic atthat point.
Exactly.
So what I heard that it takesanywhere from one to two years,
I believe, to get through thetraining, schooling, everything
to be an air traffic controller.
So this isn't something thateven if they had people that
they wanted to bring on, whatwill be fixed overnight?
SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
That's just I know.
I can't wait, or I can wait, butI feel like what if soon like
Waymo is gonna try to put in theair traffic controllers?
We know how Waymo does too.
Then planes will just be likedoing backflips in the air.
SPEAKER_03 (19:50):
That would scare the hell out of me.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
Yeah, right?
We've already, yeah, last weekwe talked about how like the
dangers of Waymo.
I feel like it would just becrazy.
Um, but yeah, hopefully thiswill blow over soon.
But in the meantime, I've beenseeing so many like pilots
making announcements just uhsoothing the passengers and
saying it's going to be okay.
Because I also feel like thenews is not helping by sharing
(20:11):
every week a different closecall or like a plane's wing may
clip the tail of another plane'swing, and it's just it just
seems like the wild west.
SPEAKER_03 (20:21):
Yeah, you know, I agree with you, Merrill.
But here's the problem everyonehas cameras on their phones, so
they kind of have to report onit.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:32):
But like I said, um this is just insane.
It's really insane.
So I would say buckle up for thebumpy ride ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (20:42):
Exactly.
If anyone wants some goodreading, I'm part of the I think
I mentioned it before that, butthe fear of flying Reddit page.
And so because I I used to go onit because it's the sweetest
group of people, and basically,like I used to be so scared on
planes, and I would you put yourflight number in, and people
would like track you when you'rein the air, and I would be
writing like I'm having a panicattack, and people would be
(21:02):
writing, like, okay, you'regoing over Montana, you're doing
great, you know, and it was thesweetest group, but now every
day someone's posting, like, I'mabout to get off the plane, I'm
gonna take the train instead,and like, but it's really cute
because there's pilots in thegroup too, so it does give um a
lot of insight on like what'shappening now, and just I give
so much credit to pilots forlike not only having the
(21:23):
knowledge they have, but tomaking us the common people feel
safe during this time, and likethey're trying to undo
everything and work in theseconditions, and like I I really
think pilots are like heroes, Ireally, really do.
Um, so and you know, the airtraffic controller people aren't
that far off to me.
It's a really important job.
And so I hope they get back towork soon.
(21:46):
But yeah, like if you're mad atthem, imagine someone asking you
to work two weeks or three weekswithout any pay and like
terrible conditions.
SPEAKER_03 (21:54):
I agree, I agree 100% on that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
If you see me posting in the fear of flying
page, mind keep your ownbusiness, keep your keep it to
yourself.
One time I was on it on a plane,and the man was like, What is
going on?
But well, that's crazy.
Um, next up, this is so funny.
So I didn't even know who thiswas.
I had to look it up to behonest, but uh people has named
(22:18):
their sexiest man alive in 2025,and it is actor Jonathan Bailey,
uh, who I did not really know.
He's English, he's 37.
Um, and apparently they say he'sbrimming with charm and wit and
handsome looks.
Now, in the past, I've kind ofhad some weird thoughts about
some of their like man of theyear, sexiest man alive, but
(22:40):
they usually pick like you know,kind of the it person, and he
became really popular inBridgerton, the Netflix series.
And then he's a prince inWicked, and he was really cute
in that.
So I feel like also I feel likethis is definitely just good
publicity for the next versionof Wicked.
So it's just someone's publicistdoing a really good job.
(23:00):
But um, I don't know.
How do you feel?
Do you as a as a man?
Are you jealous of him or do youthink he is one of the sexiest
men alive?
SPEAKER_03 (23:10):
Well, um I don't know if he's the sexiest man
alive.
I think I'm the sexiest manalive, but you know, that's just
my opinion.
SPEAKER_00 (23:19):
Your wife, your wife agrees.
SPEAKER_03 (23:23):
But you know, there there's so many of these
different things out there.
Hey, you know what?
If he's got that that title, Isay embrace it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
I think so too.
And I get it's one of thosethings that I feel like beauty
and attractiveness is definitelya lot of times in the eye of the
beholder.
Like there's certain people thatwere just like, okay, like
Margot Robbie or something, it'sjust pretty much like we can all
agree that she is attract anattractive human, you know.
And like I think when Brad Pittwas voted that, it's like, okay,
this is like an attractive man.
(23:53):
I don't know about sexiest manalive, but um, I think he takes
it in good stride.
And this seems like someone I'veseen in interviews with him, and
he I think he it it has notgotten to his head.
I think he thinks it's verysilly.
And um, in the interview, theyasked, Have you told anyone
about this?
And he said he like told his dogwho just looked at him and like
the dog doesn't care.
So I think that's cute.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
Hey, he's taking it in a stride, I like that.
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, so so this is interesting.
I didn't know about JonathanBailey, but I'm very happy for
him, and he seems really funnyand nice.
SPEAKER_03 (24:28):
Well, at least he's not arrogant about it, so that's
a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
Yeah, he seems very silly.
And they asked him like what hisfavorite thing to do at a party
is, and he said leave.
So I'm like, that's that's kindof cool.
And just a quick, a really quickrundown before um some of the
former sexiest men alive,Patrick Dempsey, um, Matthew
McConaughey, of course, BlakeShelton, John Legend, and
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Channing Tatum are just a few.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Nice, nice list.
SPEAKER_00 (24:58):
Yep, pretty good list.
Oh, Ryan Reynolds.
Sorry, I'm I'm revoking thatone.
I don't think so.
Sorry.
I'm sorry for everyone thatloves Ryan Reynolds, but I'm
closing the issue on that one.
SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
My last topic for this episode is that Mexico's
president is pressing chargesafter being groped in public.
What?
Oh yes.
Mexico's president, ClaudiaShibum, uh, is pressing charges
against a man who groped her inpublic in Mexico City on
(25:32):
Tuesday, November 4th.
Shibum, Mexico's first femalepresident, was walking between
the National Palace and theeducation industry when a man
approached her from behind andput his arm around her, touched
her chest, and attempted to kissher before a staff member
intervened.
The man who was reportedlyinebriated uh has been arrested.
(25:57):
Dunfum, uh I'm sorry, she bumannounced she was pressing
charges not only for herself buton behalf of all Mexican women
who experience daily harassment,stating if this happens to the
president, what becomes of theMexican women?
She is also calling for a reviewof laws to make sexual
harassment a criminal offense inall Mexican states, and has
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launched a nationwide campaignto raise awareness and defend
the integrity of women.
President has dismissedsuggestions to increase her
security detail, emphasizing theneed to stay close to the
people.
SPEAKER_00 (26:37):
Wow.
That's so funny that in the US,it's like our political leaders
that are doing the weirdharassing.
So, yeah, I mean that's so cool.
We were in Mexico once um whenshe was uh like had a rally for
her.
So I actually got to see hertalk in person, which is really
cool.
We were completely we were inPuerto Vallarta, and we didn't
(26:58):
had no clue that it was orEntonada and we had no clue that
anything was happening.
We walked right up and then shewas giving her speech right
before she got elected.
And I'm like, that's super cool.
I got to see like a presidenttalk.
So she seems so intelligent andgreat.
Of course, this should happen tono no women whatsoever, but um,
I love that she like took itseriously right away and was
(27:18):
like, nope, we're changing this,and not saying like, I have
feelings about this, but it'slike okay, we're gonna put into
real laws um consequences sothat this doesn't happen as
often.
SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean, obviously the laws in Mexico are
different than the United Stateswhen it comes to but I disagree
with her as far as the detailbecause here's the reality in
the United States, you know,she's basically the equivalent
of the president here of theUnited States in her country.
Yeah, you cannot get that closeto the leader of the country.
SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
I mean, to have this guy be able to get up close to
her, get behind her, and thengrope her and try to kiss her.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
I know.
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
How does that even happen for someone that has that
status?
I think she's wrong.
She needs to up her detailbecause that guy should have
never gotten that close.
I mean, you try and get close tothe president of the United
States, yeah, you're probablygonna be leaving um in a bag.
You know, you trust.
SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
I know, yeah.
And you would think the securitydetail right away, like would
just toss him or you know, likearrest him or whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (28:32):
My thing is, what was the detail?
Because again, how is he able toget that close to her?
SPEAKER_00 (28:37):
I know.
I don't know.
That's that's weird, and it'salso there's so many people that
are so delusional, too, whereit's like, okay, they think they
have a right to you, orsometimes people think they know
someone, or like the fact thathe went up and kissed her is
like that, must be really spookyand gross, and like you know, I
I I think of Obama as someonethat like really is with the
people, and I'm sure I of coursehe has like great detail, but I
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feel like he during his liketerm and especially now too,
like I've seen him in crowds, orlike he doesn't seem to be very
far away a lot.
He seems to like you know bereachable, but maybe that's just
like an optical illusion, andand he's less um like of course
no one would go up to him likethat, but I don't know.
I feel like I see him likehigh-fiving people a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
He does, but you know, the one thing to keep in
mind, and most people don't payattention, but you always see
one or two secret service rightnext to you.
Yeah, yeah.
And those are the ones that yousee because there's also you
know, I kind of like watchingdocumentaries and stuff like
this, and you know, sobasically, I saw this episode
about the Secret Service, and alot of times there's one or two
(29:44):
that they purposely want you tosee, and there's a large number
of them around that person thatyou don't see.
They literally blend in thecrowd.
SPEAKER_00 (29:53):
Exactly.
But it's funny, I love watchingvideos when they try to just
when those men try to act normaland they're wearing like Like
everyday sneakers, becauseusually they're so buff anyway.
And it's like, okay, you even ona plane, sometimes if there's
like a undercover cop orsomething, it's like they try to
look and blend in, but they'relike bursting out of their
blazer and they have like reallynice shoes on, and it's like,
(30:15):
okay, you don't look like therest of us, like heading to
Walmart.
So uh in the a lot of times theyhave like snipers up at the top,
you know, like so it's likethey're positioned in all
different places.
And who knows, like a secretservice person might have
thought that the guy was goingin to like knife her or
something, you know, you don'tknow if he's gonna kiss her or
like stab her or whatever.
So it's really freaky.
(30:36):
And um I think there should bemuch more of a punishment just
like in our society if you'reharassing someone, but then it
gets tricky because then it'slike you know, if you if you
start like arresting people,like what if someone says they
were harassed and they reallywere?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (30:51):
I feel like it's a slippery slope, but um, if
there's like it all dependsbecause you know, in this
country, if you call someone andsay you're gonna do something to
the president, you're going toget some visitors at your door.
Really, really fast.
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
Uh yeah, true.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
In fact, there was a story uh about a gentleman in
the suburbs here in Illinois.
I don't know what was hedrinking, but he did that.
And yeah, he was visited by lawenforcement.
Really?
Both federal and local, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Yeah, that's why in my text they always say, like,
FBI, if you're reading this, I'mjust kidding.
Wow, well, that's interesting.
But so we'll yeah, we'll seeabout that.
But uh, very interesting, andI'm glad she's standing up for
herself.
And also, that's so cool that acut I don't know what people
think of her.
I actually don't really know,but I think that's so cool that
(31:42):
a country has a woman president.
SPEAKER_03 (31:45):
Yeah, it's long overdue.
SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
Yep, maybe one day in the US in 2091.
Well, you know, who might get tosee this uh one day, a woman be
president is Tom Brady's clonedog.
It's because he'll be around forlong enough, or maybe like the
fifth iteration of it.
Um, so on uh last week, TomBrady casually dropped the
(32:07):
bombshell that his new dog,Juni, is a clone of the family's
former Pitmix, Lua, who died inDecember 2023.
So um the cloning was carriedout by a company called Colossal
Biosciences, which very muchsounds like a Tom Cruise kind of
movie.
Uh, so they used a blood sampletaken from Lua when she was
(32:28):
still alive, and then um, youknow, then you have a dog pretty
much that use the technology andthey're able to clone it.
And obviously, like it's notLua, it's not the original dog.
It's pretty much, you know, theytake the biomarkers and put that
in, and the dog has like a lotof the same DNA and a lot of the
same makeup, but like I thinkour version, we're thinking very
(32:49):
sci-fi in the way where we thinkit's like an exact replica, but
really the technology is justusing some of its um biomarkers
and genetic material.
SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Yeah, I know that uh a lot of animal activists really
got angry at him for doing thatbecause they've felt that with
all the dogs, there's inshelters, you can use the
dogness and that's true, and Iget it, but I don't think they
should really worry about peoplefollowing this trend.
Um at 50,000$50,000 or crack todo this, yeah, it's not gonna be
(33:26):
a whole lot of people doingthis, so I don't think you have
anything to worry about.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
I know, me too.
I have such like thoughts onthis topic because like I I had
like I I love, love, love mydogs, and I feel like my dogs
were like my family, and I hadone that passed away like a few
years ago, and it it just it'slike so weird because part of
me, of course, would love tohave like a lineage of dogs that
even has like a tenth of apercent of the dog that I the OG
dog that I love so much, butthen it's like at some point you
(33:52):
just have to go through the painof like that dog passed away.
Now I'm now I'm ready for like awhole new dog experience, you
know.
And you're right, like I I gotthat dog from a um a rescue, and
it's like I would have neverknown about that dog if I was
just trying to recreate likefive dogs ago, you know.
So it's really interesting.
I wish we could almost do bothand like somehow like put it
(34:14):
into a dog that's already inlike a rescue, and you kind of
get the best of both worlds.
SPEAKER_03 (34:19):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I I know they're doingDNA to try and bring back um
extinct animals and stuff likethis.
I really hope they kind of putthat effort more towards organs.
Um I think if they were able toto clone organs, uh, it will
save a lot of people's livesthat are on the waiting list for
(34:41):
so many years for an organtransplant, you know, based on
their conditions.
SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
So exactly.
Remember, they were like, yeah,they were like, the wolf, the
dire wolf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like, no, we didn'tclone a dire wolf, we're able to
like take a little bit of itsDNA and like figure out what it
is and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (34:59):
And actually, that wasn't even a pure direwolf
because it was the DNA of adirewolf and another species.
SPEAKER_00 (35:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:07):
So it's it was a quote unquote pure dire wolf,
either.
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
Yeah, but that's part of the human experience of
just like unfortunately losinganimals and people that we love.
And it's like you can try to.
I mean, it doesn't help it, youknow, you could try to clone
that them and still have like apiece of them alive, but it's
not the same like essence ofsomeone or something, I think.
SPEAKER_03 (35:29):
Yeah, it kind of brings you really, really close
to an ethical line.
Um, because I'm quite suresomeone has thought about trying
to do this, and hopefullythey're about cloning a human
being, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
I know.
If anything, it would be amazingto have it like if my dog wasn't
neutered at the time, like to toif I was to like have puppies,
his puppies and stuff, and thatwould be so cool to like be
like, okay, like hisgreat-grandfather was like the
dog love of my life, and now Ihave like this lineage of dogs
that I don't sell, but you justhave as like your own family.
(36:03):
But um, yeah, it's tricky.
I feel like normally I'd belike, ew, this is disgusting,
but I feel like dogsspecifically I I love so much
that I'm like I understand thefeeling of wanting to like hold
on to them forever.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
That's true, that's true.
But you know, again, I I thinkthat um technology, if used
correctly, uh does benefitmankind, it really does.
SPEAKER_00 (36:25):
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Was that my last one for today?
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
That was your last one.
SPEAKER_00 (36:31):
Oh my gosh, that flew by.
SPEAKER_03 (36:33):
Yes, it did.
Well, Meryl, uh, tell us what doyou have coming?
SPEAKER_00 (36:37):
Yay, okay.
You'll never have to hear aboutit again after this week, but
I'm gonna promote my show um atthe La Jolla Comedy Store by the
time you're at uh La JollaComedy Store, and it's with Tom
Arnold, and I'm the host.
SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
Nice, nice.
And what date is that again?
SPEAKER_00 (36:56):
Um, well, I'm realizing that it's actually I
think it might have passed bythe time it comes out.
If this comes, it actually itcomes out on Wednesday.
So, or my show is on Wednesday.
So if you're if you've if you'vemissed it completely, then I'm
just gonna tell you that it wasa really good show.
I'm gonna use this time topromote the show that already
happened.
That it was so good I'd want toclone it.
SPEAKER_03 (37:17):
Well, we'll have it out there beforehand.
So people okay, cool.
Okay, good.
Well, everyone, thank you somuch for watching us and
listening to us.
Uh, we had a great time, greatconversations.
Don't forget to go to our socialmedia.
Um, give us some ideas or sometopics that you know maybe you
want us to discuss, maybe someshow ideas, or maybe even uh
(37:39):
your uh reactions to some of thetopics that we had on our show
today.
SPEAKER_00 (37:43):
Yeah, I want to know if they would take money from
their kids' savings account.
SPEAKER_03 (37:46):
That would be a really good subject to know.
Well, everyone, I'm LawrenceElrod.
SPEAKER_00 (37:53):
I'm Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
Take care, everyone.
SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
Bye bye.
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