November 7, 2025 • 43 mins
A good deed sparks a legal storm: a teen returns a wallet with ten thousand dollars, only to face a lawsuit over three thousand allegedly missing. We dig into the messy intersection of ethics, law, and incentives—why honesty can feel risky, why legal fees dwarf small claims, and how stories like this reshape what people do the next time they find cash on the ground.
From there, we zoom out to power and responsibility. Billie Eilish donates $11.5M to food equity and climate efforts, then calls on billionaires in the room to give more. We break down the real difference between a millionaire and a billionaire, the compounding math that keeps fortunes growing, and why giving isn’t about guilt—it’s about stewardship and the systems we all share. Then we shift to the Louvre heist that unraveled quickly: obvious ladders, glass-cutting in public, strategic but puzzling choices, and arrests that suggest bravado over brilliance. Security tightens, copycats lurk, and the myth of a clean heist meets the reality of modern surveillance.
Music debates take center stage as headlines claim a rap drought on the charts. We push back. Talent thrives, but discovery is clogged by label templating and risk-averse marketing. We talk independence, the pressure to “sell” a persona, and how TikTok keeps surfacing unexpected hits and reviving 90s gems. Finally, AI steps into the spotlight. Companies cite automation for layoffs, productivity tools monitor workers, and the line between augmentation and replacement blurs. We share first-hand impacts, caution against hallucinated outputs, and argue for trust-based management where outcomes matter more than mouse movement.
The hour ends on a roller coaster at 75 mph, where riders hold a stranger in her seat after a belt allegedly fails. It’s a stark reminder that while systems fail, people still show up for each other. If you enjoy thoughtful takes on ethics, culture, tech, and the headlines that won’t leave your brain, tap follow, share with a friend, and drop us a note with the next thorny topic you want us to tackle. Your stories make this show better.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:15):
Hello everyone.
Welcome to this week's episodeof Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lauren Selt.
SPEAKER_02 (00:21):
And I'm Meryl Kleemau.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
Hey Meryl, how are you?
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
Good.
I don't know why.
I just heard like heavybreathing.
I can hear myself.
I'm like, shut up.
I'm really good.
Yeah.
That happens on videos too.
I'll like play it back and I'llhear myself like breathing so
loudly.
I'm like, ew, go away.
But other than that, I'm reallygood.
(00:46):
How about yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
I am doing fantastic.
I can't complain.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
Good.
SPEAKER_00 (00:52):
I'm going to start off with a very interesting
topic.
SPEAKER_01 (00:56):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:57):
Now we've all, you know, at one point or another
found something sitting, youknow, on the floor, let's say in
a store, a park lot, wherever.
Well, a 17-year-old boy's nameis Adrian found a wallet in a
supermarket parking lot.
He returned the wallet to theowner.
(01:17):
Uh, the wallet had$10,000 in it,and he returned it to her for
all$10,000 in there.
And then, ironically, was suedby the owner saying that um
there's$3,000 missing.
What to me, this whole story isjust absolutely nuts for a
(01:40):
number of reasons.
SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Um, for one, I don't know, maybe it's me, but if I'm
gonna steal money out of wallet,I'm gonna take all of the money.
I'm not gonna just take personalback.
And then you kind of wonder isis there something going on with
the person trying to, you know,you know, trying to pull a fast
(02:03):
one or trying to take advantageof the situation?
What do you think, Meryl?
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Um, well, I mean, like, yeah, that's so are they
suing him for three thousanddollars?
And that's crazy.
I wonder if there's a way tolike yeah, that's absolutely
crazy.
And and they you it they lost itin the first place.
So like it's gone.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's I feel like that'sif you lose your wallet, like
unfortunately, you're notentitled to.
(02:29):
I mean, I think I don't knowlegal what the legal answer is,
but to me, like even if like adollar is missing to ten
thousand dollars, like that'sthat's your that's just bad, you
know.
Like that's unfortunate, butyou've lost it.
SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, when the police werecalled, even the police said
that they have no way of knowingwho's telling the truth or who's
lying.
You know, so and what what'sinteresting is that there's
something that I kind of pulledoff of uh off the internet, so I
want to kind of read it toeveryone to kind of get your
perspective.
Um, it says here Adrian can't besued by the wallet's owner for
(03:04):
returning the money.
Instead, the owner is likelysuing Adrian for damages related
to the$10,000 in the wallet.
The owner has no legal groundsto sue for the return of the
money if it was returned intact,but could potentially sue for
the costs incurred due to nothaving the money, such as bank
fees or lost income.
(03:24):
Adrian can defend himself byproviding evidence that the
wallet was returned and themoney was intact.
SPEAKER_02 (03:33):
This is nuts, and all the truth is it really is
because it's like, why would youthink and even say let's say
that is the truth.
Like, if worse comes to worseand that person returned it for
some reason, but also stolethree thousand dollars, then
like I'm sorry, but then thatalso like that sucks, but that's
just the person that found yourwallet and returned it, you
know.
(03:53):
Like, like you're lucky that Ifeel like most people probably
wouldn't have it returned it atall and just kept going.
SPEAKER_00 (03:59):
Oh, exactly.
And you know, people are gonnasee this story and be like, Oh,
that's an easy fix to this.
If I find money in a wallet,yeah, I'm just gonna keep the
wallet and then I'll destroy,I'll keep the money and I'll
destroy the wallet.
That's what people say.
SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
Exactly.
And also, I mean, I'm sure manyof us are asking, even if you
have the money and so muchmoney, like why on earth would
you keep ten thousand dollars ofcash on you?
Like, unless you are walkingphysically to the bank to
deposit that, it just seems likenot a very good idea to have
that much cash like on yourperson at any given time.
SPEAKER_00 (04:31):
No, and then the other thing too, what's so crazy
about it, Merle, is you know, itcosts money to sue someone.
So if hypothetically, let's saythe person stole 3,000, it's
gonna cost you more than that toget the 3,000 back.
So you know, you have to kind oflook at it as what are you
(04:53):
really suing for?
Because it ain't the money,because you're gonna spend more
on legal fees.
SPEAKER_02 (04:57):
Exactly.
You almost have to pretend likethat's the like the reward or
like a finder's fee or somethingis like thirty thousand dollars,
and then just figure, okay, Imean that that's a ton of money,
but that's not so much that likeif you're that wealthy, you
can't just move on with yourlife and just be like, okay,
maybe they took it, maybe theydidn't.
I'm not gonna think about thisanymore.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah, I agree.
And and and here's the otherthing: even if let's say you
can't afford to lose anybody,the way I look at it like this
is because there's no way ofknowing who's telling the truth
to who's lying, if I lost awallet with 13,000 and I got
10,000 back, I still chalk thatup as a win.
Yeah, I'm not happy about losing3,000, but I still chalk it up
(05:40):
as a win.
What do you think?
Me too.
SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
I think so too.
I would be like, okay, that'sannoying.
Can you please give it back tome if you took it?
But also I would just say, Iwould just understand that's
probably such a big amount ofmoney to some people that they
would just like that even ifthey had to take it, who knows?
You know, that yeah, that's justcrazy.
It's funny too, because I reallycan say like wholeheartedly, if
I found that I wouldn't keep it,not because I'm like such a good
(06:05):
person, but because I'm like, Idon't I believe that if you take
money like that, I really dobelieve in karma in that kind of
way.
And I do believe that likesomething bad would end up like
coming from taking that type ofmoney.
SPEAKER_00 (06:17):
Yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, if I found that money, II'd give it back too.
Wink wink.
No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_02 (06:22):
I'm just yeah, normally I would like if it was
like I I only would do thatbecause I'm scared for myself.
It's like a self-centered reasonwhy I wouldn't keep it, it's not
like an altruistic reason.
SPEAKER_00 (06:34):
You know what?
Hey, you're a very honestperson, there's nothing wrong
with that.
SPEAKER_02 (06:38):
I know, I know, but it's only because I'm I'm I'm
obsessed with my own situation.
Like, you know what I mean?
It has nothing to do with theother person, it's just because
like I don't want the bad thing.
I'm like, okay, if you takethree thousand dollars and you
put a down payment on a car orsomething, I just would believe
that then like that car mightlike get into an accident, or
like I don't know, I just havelike weird superstitions in that
kind of way.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
So now now you're making me give the money back if
I found a mess.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Sorry, but we have to give the money back because
then I also believe that theuniverse not to be so
California, but like then Ibelieve that the universe will
reward you.
Like, I really do to think likeI've even heard that them say
that too, that if you like pickup trash, like obviously not
trash that's gonna make you sickor something, but if you like
throw away garbage and that thatlike is supposed to bring you a
lot of good luck because you'rehelping like clean the world and
(07:26):
stuff.
So I believe it when it comes tothis, too.
That if you gave it back, Ireally do think they'll get
rewarded.
SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
That's true, that's true.
And I think this young man isprobably gonna get rewarded when
he least expected because ofthis good deed that he did.
SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
Exactly.
Oh, that's true.
The possibility that he didn'ttake anything is getting blamed
for this, that's crazy too.
Like, which is probably thetruth.
Like, if he is giving it back infull, and then the things that
he gets is getting sued is likethat would make yeah, that would
make me like really crash out,as the kid say.
SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
I mean, like I said, we we don't know one way or the
other, but I don't know.
To me, if this kid wanted tospend spend uh steal money, he's
not giving any of it back.
That's just if I'm gonna if I'mgonna steal three thousand, why
not just steal the whole thing?
SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
Exactly, exactly, and just say, Oh, here's your
wallet.
Like, I don't know where thecash was, I'm not sure, you
know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
Exactly, exactly.
Oh interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Well, someone that is giving some money away is
Billie Eilish, the singer thatwe all know and a lot of people
love.
Um, she will be she donatedeleven uh$11.5 million of
proceeds from her hit me hardand soft tour to support
organizations, projects, andvoices dedicated to food equity,
(08:48):
um, reducing carbon pollutionand combating the climate
crisis.
And then she made news when shewas um accepting a music
innovator award at um, I thinkit was a Wall Street Journal
magazine um awards.
Yeah, yeah, it was an um anaward is for Wall Street
Journal.
And uh she was talking withStephen Colbert, and then she
(09:10):
got up and took the mic and thenwas very brave and saying, like,
you know, there's a lot ofpeople here in the room that
have more money than me,alluding to the billionaires in
the room, which were like MarkZuckerberg, and I think a few
others, and just basicallysaying, like, there's no need to
be a billionaire.
And then she said, like, giveyour money away, shorties, which
I thought was really cute.
And I mean, Billie Eilish isyoung, is really young, so of
(09:31):
course she has that kind of likeyounger bravado, but I think
that's amazing.
Um, it got a lot of backlashonline just because I think
people sometimes feel like,well, you're one to talk, you
have lots of money, but it'slike a millionaire is a lot
different than a billionaire,and she does actively give away
a lot of money, like she doesgive away a lot of money, you
(09:52):
know.
So um I think I think Iunderstand the sentiment of like
it was almost when like AOC woreaddress to Grammys or somewhere
that's had like tax the rich orwhatever, and people are like,
ew, you know, you're one of themtoo, whatever.
But I think there's a definitedifference, and it's no one
usually people in that circledon't call each other out, so I
(10:13):
feel like it's a really big dealfor like a young woman to to
speak up to like people that aremore powerful and rich than her.
SPEAKER_00 (10:22):
Agree.
And you know, the other thingtoo, and I know some people are
gonna get mad about me sayingthis, but a lot of people don't
understand how money works.
And what I mean by that is let'ssay you won a million dollars,
okay, in a lottery, okay, andyou don't have to get it over
the years, you get in one lumpsum payment.
(10:43):
Well, that million dollars isnot a million dollars because
you're gonna pay taxes on it,and the tax on that million
dollars is probably gonna besomewhere around 40% or more.
So let's just say 40%.
So now that million just wentdown to 600,000.
Okay, so you're thinking, well,hey, that's still a lot of
money.
Okay, you want to buy a house.
Well, most houses these days fora standard three-bedroom,
(11:06):
two-bath, depending on where youlive, is probably gonna be
somewhere between 150 and 350,depending on where you live.
So more than half your money isalready gone.
Yeah.
You want to buy a vehicle?
Well, the average vehicle costis around 50,000 now.
So now you just lost 50,000 to anew vehicle, but you again, you
don't have no note.
(11:26):
Again, you can live comfortablyoff that for a few years, but
let's say, let's say you're 40years old, even 50 years old.
How long do you think a couplehundred thousand dollars is
gonna carry you on?
So huge difference between abillionaire and a billionaire,
they're not even in the sameballpark.
So I really like for what she'ssaying because here's the
reality (11:50):
if you have a billion dollars free and clear in your
account, what is giving up a fewmillion dollars and all.
SPEAKER_02 (11:58):
I know, I know, and it's like how many houses and
like cars?
I mean, uh, the answer is a lot.
Like, we know if I it's like Iwant a lot of houses and a lot
of cars, but you can have allthat and help a lot of people.
Um, and also like, except I do Ido think people can help people
in the way that they want, theydon't have to like donate to
every single thing because Ialso think too, like, you know,
(12:20):
I love animals.
I feel like if I was to becomelike a billionaire, millionaire,
that's it.
Like, I would priceke you alittle bit more towards helping
animals than I would like theenvironment, or you know, who
knows?
But like uh, I think people candonate in ways that they want,
and what we also don't need toput pressure on those with money
to like donate exactly the waywe want to, you know, like that
we see fit.
But I mean, this is an actualissue too, like the food crisis
(12:44):
and the environmental crisislike does affect all of us.
So I think that they're sayingthat okay, well, if you're
taking so much from our system,it's like you should give back
to everyone and like as anoverall kind of unit.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
I agree.
And you know, the reality isthat you know there's nothing
wrong with with being human andhaving compassion for other
people.
There really isn't.
Because when it boils down toit, what you know, one day we're
all gonna die.
We're all in that line to go up,go to go up to heaven or the
opposite, depending on youropposite.
(13:20):
But the reality is that when youdie, that graveyard plot is the
same, regardless of whether youhave a dollar or a billion
dollars.
There's no difference in thetwo.
So why not show compassion whileyou're here?
And again, I'm not saying gocrazy, give away all your money
or whatever, but you know,there's nothing wrong with
(13:41):
having a heart and helpingpeople who need help.
There's nothing wrong with thatat all.
SPEAKER_02 (13:46):
I know, especially since like if you can buy like
nine houses outright and helpyour family and have parts, and
then have so much more, and thenjust be like living off, like
even the interest that you makeis enough to like replenish
itself over and over.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
This is gonna be a fun one here.
I'm quite sure everyoneremembers the uh the Louvre
Museum heist.
Yeah, um, a couple things.
One, they really need to findthem a new occupation.
(14:25):
Um, the four suspects werearrested.
And I'm thinking, wow, thatdidn't take very long.
SPEAKER_02 (14:34):
Yeah, that was really quick.
SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
Yes, yes.
Um, I'm looking at a story here.
Four suspects in uh Louvre Heisthave been uh handed uh
preliminary charges andincarcerated, including three
believed to be masterminded witha team who forced its way into
the museum, leaving with$102million worth of crown jewels.
(15:00):
Paris prosecutor uh LaurieBacoua noted that apparent
closeness of the suspects.
Two of them were convicted in2015 in the same theft case, and
all are based in Paris, northernsuburbs.
Okay, so that yeah, that furthersays that yeah, y'all need to
(15:20):
find y'all a different um hobbythere.
But I'm shocked that theyarrested them so fast.
What about you, Myral?
SPEAKER_02 (15:30):
Um, I mean, normally I would say yes, but the way
this whole thing went down withjust the fact there was like a
ladder above the museum andpeople were taking videos of
like we can see the ladder, andthis whole thing just seems kind
of like sloppy and quick to me,even though you know it went
down really quickly and theywere able to get out and like uh
(15:51):
they were able to do stuff veryquickly.
It just seems like it was kindof sloppy thinking.
It doesn't seem like it was themost precise heist ever.
So it doesn't surprise me.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Yeah, because I mean when it first happened, it was
amazing that they were showingthe ladder that went up there.
Then there was a video of theperson cutting into one of the
glasses.
I'm like, okay, maybe they knowwhat they're doing.
I mean, don't sound too brightthere, but you know, hey, maybe
they know what they're doing.
And then I think there was evena video of the getaway vehicle
(16:22):
or whatever.
I'm like, yeah, this ain'tlooking too good for them, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
Exactly.
But yeah, that has to be likewhat a roller coaster of
emotions they've had in the pastfew weeks, because then they
it's like they probably plannedit, they did it, they think they
got away with it, and then it'slike, nope, you're caught.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
Uh big question is is where's the crown jewels that
they stole?
SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
I don't know.
Remember, there were some thatthey just like threw on the
sidewalk, or you know, that theywere like, Okay, we don't need
this, or they didn't get awaywith it.
Who knows if they like put themsomewhere knowing they may get
caught, or there's like anotherperson or entity involved
somewhere, or yeah, if it's likehidden.
SPEAKER_00 (17:00):
I wonder if there's something else going on involved
because one of the things thatauthorities have pointed out was
they bypass other jewelry andother relics worth way more than
what they stole, which is kindof weird when you think about
it.
It's like what was what was sounique about the specific pieces
they're after?
You know, yeah, you know, werethey I'm sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
Oh, I was gonna ask, like, my inner conspiracy
theorist is already is like whatif the people that work there
are also involved a lot.
Like, do you believe that evenmore people are in on it than
than that were caught?
SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
You know, the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me.
Um the reason I say that isbecause one they had no fear of
doing what they're doing, andthe museum was open when they
were doing it, and people wereon the floor with as well.
So either they're they've theygot a lot of balls or they're
(17:57):
very stupid.
I don't know which one of thetwo.
Probably sometimes those two gohand in hand.
But they left a lot of evidencebehind, so maybe they're not the
brightest, you know, thesharpest knife in the drawer, I
guess, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
And that's that's the whole because everyone was
saying how much it did feel likean Ocean's 11 situation, but
it's like you have to not getcaught, you have to be so good
that your traces are almostinvisible.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
That is true, that is true.
Um, do you think it's gonna spura lot of copycats?
SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
Yeah, in fact, I even saw I saw it um in
California there were some typeof heist in a museum that
happened.
I wasn't I didn't have enoughtime to see exactly what it was.
Um, but we went to a museum overthe weekend, uh, an art museum
that had a lot of like gold andsculptures and old um ancient
(18:50):
art and everything.
They had like a few really bigones, like a Monet and a
different ones.
And they had the security waslike off the charts.
Like usually there's peoplestanding around, but they were
like monitoring every move.
Um, they were yelling at us atpeople for getting too close to
the painting.
So I feel like word has spread,and they definitely are like
doubling down a lot in themuseums, at least that I've been
(19:14):
to.
SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
Yeah, that that's definitely true.
That's definitely true.
I just figure that they'reprobably gonna be on um you
remember that show, America'sdumbest criminals?
Yeah, they're probably gonna behighlighted on that show for
some reason.
SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
I know it I feel like it's it's gonna be Vem, and
then a lot of people fromFlorida.
Like, I feel like it's just it'salways the criminals that are
like, you know, at the gasstation, they drive away like
with a pump still in the car orsomething, just like so
ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
That's true, that's true.
Or or I I remember one watchingone story where someone went
into a store, paid something,paid for something with a check,
and then turn around and rob thestore.
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
Literally went to their house to arrest them.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Oh see, that's really like I know my place.
Like, I'm not smart enough torob a bank or to understand how
to do that, so I just stay stayhere.
SPEAKER_00 (20:13):
Yes, yes.
Um, yeah, they they reallyshould spend some time on a new
career, though.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Definitely.
Well, I thought this one wasinteresting.
I'd love to know your thoughtsand even your son's thoughts on
this.
Um, the article was titled, AreWe Living Through a Rap Drought?
The Billboard Charts Suggest WeAre.
Now, it's for the first timesince 1990, there's no hip-hop
in the top 40 of the Billboard100 chart.
(20:38):
Um the last time that happenedwas the week of February 2nd,
1990, when the top-rinking rapsong was Biz Marquis song, Just
a Friend, which I love that songso much.
Uh, and yeah, there's no rapsongs currently on the Hot 100
list.
I think Susa and Kendrick Lamar,um, they had a 13-week billboard
that fell off.
(20:59):
Um, and yeah, I think it's kindof interesting.
Like, I think I think we're Imean, I guess my answer is no.
I don't think hip hop isdeclining.
I feel like there's a lot of aton of amazing artists out
there.
Um, but we just radio and socialmedia and everyone like need
(21:20):
help to put the spotlight onthem.
Like, I don't feel like it'sthat they're not good people out
there.
I feel like they just need alittle push in getting
discovered.
SPEAKER_00 (21:28):
Yeah, that's true.
I think part of the otherproblem too is the industry has
this real bad habit of copycat.
In other words, they see someonethat is very popular, their song
is doing great, and what theytry to do is mimic that person.
So you'll basically listen toit, and it's similar to other
(21:50):
songs that you've heard, and alot of the creativity is gone in
in music, even rap and hip-hop.
There was a lot of creativityback in the 90s, even the 2000s.
SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
Yeah, but you don't see that now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:04):
Excuse me.
SPEAKER_02 (22:06):
See, yeah, and I feel like the artists, the
artists are out there, they justneed help being discovered.
I think, I think that's like Ithink when we we look at the
Billboard 100, and it's like somany pop girls, which I love.
Like, I love that's kind of likewhat I really love so much.
But it's like the Taylor Swiftsand the Sabrina Carpenters and
the Tate McRae's, like, they allhave so much help and money
(22:27):
behind them.
And I just think we need to likepour a little more into the into
the the new, you know, indiepeople, indie rap people.
SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
Yeah, and I I think that you know, maybe the record
companies aren't doing the bestjob, you know, finding people
because there's a lot ofincredible talent out there.
Yeah, um, even in the the RB hiphop world, there's a lot of
incredible talent that mostpeople have never heard of.
Um, primarily because either A,they don't want anything to do
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with record companies because ofall the negative things
associated with it, or they getpassed up because you know,
maybe they do have a potentialdeal on the table, but the the
record company wants them tokind of change their style.
Say, well, we like what you'redoing, but this is hot over
here, so just do somethingsimilar to this.
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And I think I think thecreativity is really, really
missing from a lot of what'sgoing on out there.
SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
I think you're so right.
I feel like it's such a longertopic that we could talk about
for it, could be its ownepisode, but I feel like artists
like Lujia Cat, and I was hopingI was really hoping this
wouldn't happen to Dochi.
But like once the industry kindof gets your their hooks in you,
I feel like they make people Idon't want to say sell out, but
they definitely have a certainpath that they want their
artists to go down.
And all of a sudden they'relike, I hate to say it, but I
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have like little Nas X andstuff, you know.
Like, I don't know, all of asudden you're like dancing with
Satan, and it just kind of likelooks weird.
And I feel like these areartists that are true, truly
great musicians, but it's likeonce a huge label and the music
industry gets into them, it likeit turns them into what they
want it to be instead of liketheir natural, you know, talent.
SPEAKER_00 (24:05):
That's sad, but it's so true.
It is so true.
That's why, you know, sadlyenough, a lot of up-and-coming
artists want nothing to do withthe with the music industry,
they'd rather just goindependent just because they
don't want to deal with thenonsense.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yeah, I also don't like the the idea that in order
for like hip-hop or rap to be onthe charts, there has to be some
type of like beef betweenartists too.
Because that was anothersentiment that I saw, you know,
and of course, beef is fun, welove it, but it's like I feel
like a Kendrick or a Drake orwhoever deserves to be on the
charts just as much, like evenif they don't have a beef and
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like there's not a distract orsomething.
So I feel like it's like it'ssometimes it needs to be taken
more seriously as a genre, too,without having to have beef.
SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
I agree with you 100% on that because you know,
when it's all said and done,there's room for everyone to be
successful.
No one's gonna listen to onesong over and over again for 20
hours straight.
Um except for they not likethere's some other issues going
on if you do.
Yeah, but there's enough roomfor everyone to be successful.
(25:15):
So I think they should really,really kind of open their eyes
on what's out there and youknow, and not be so so cynical
and so so ruthless becausethere's been artists that have
said, uh, and this isallegations, we don't know that
you know they've had theirrecord company shelf their songs
because they want to boostanother arts.
SPEAKER_02 (25:36):
Yeah, and then they get stuck, yeah.
Even like like Jojo and peoplelike that.
There's been people that havebeen very vocal about saying I
would I couldn't have made a newrecord because I was like under
the record label and I was juststuck there.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (25:52):
So let's hope things change.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Yeah, and that's one reason I love TikTok because I
think a lot of times too, songsthat like wouldn't be expected
become really popular or songsrecirculate from the 90s, and
like the new generation findsout stuff, and I just I think
it's a really great tool forlike showing the industry what's
what we like.
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
I agree, I agree 100% on that.
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
Really fast.
Did we get any hate from what Isaid about Britney last week?
Were people upset or not really?
You know what?
No, no backlash at all.
unknown (26:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (26:27):
If you if you if you didn't listen, don't go back and
listen.
It was okay.
All I'm saying is that Britney'snot not on the 100 charts, so uh
yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:38):
Talk about interesting trends.
Um, an increasing trend ofcompanies laying off employees
and replacing them with AI.
Um this is something I know thatwe've touched on many times, and
now it's starting to becomereality.
Um, there's an increasing trendof companies laying off
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employees, with many explicitlyciting AI adoption, automation,
and strategic shift towards thetowards an AI-first future as
key reasons.
Um things to highlight here.
There's a growing statistics inthe US that over 10,000 job cuts
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in the first seven months of2025 were directly linked to AI,
and a single month, September2025, saw another 7,000
AI-related cuts reportedly byone outplacement firm.
I personally think that numberis low.
(27:38):
I could be wrong, but I thinkthat number is low.
Um, some high-profile examplesof this is uh SalesPurse CEO
Mark Minioff stated that AIenabled him to reduce support
headcount from 9,000 to 5,000.
UPS eliminated 48,000 positionsin 2025 using automation,
(28:04):
corporate shorthand for AI toimprove network efficiency.
And Amazon, which everyone knowswho they are, leadership has
indicated that efficiency gainsfrom using AI extensively help
shrinkage its corporateworkplace.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
I mean, like for my other when I'm not doing this, I
wish I could do this full time,but when I'm not doing this, um
a lot of my job is going todefinitely be replaced.
Like I work in podcasting,writing, writing for people and
copywriting.
And I've already had like maybethree of my long-term clients
lovingly pack up and go and justsay, like, we love you, but
we're going to use AI instead.
(28:46):
So like I've definitely seen ithappen real time.
And then, you know, you thinkyou're not replaceable, or
people will want humans, butit's like, no, they just want
like they want to do the workwith themselves in like 12
minutes when I, you know, yearsago, it would take me a really
long time to do it.
Now it's just like you can putin a transcript and have it done
really quickly.
Um, so I do think it's sad.
(29:09):
And and as much as they say,like, oh, it's up to us to work
with the tools and work withchat GPT and then and AI, it
just is not fun.
And like, I don't know, I feellike AI just their chat GBT like
gives me a headache and it kindof makes me feel icky when I'm
like using it for too long.
So I'm actually trying to likemove away from it.
And I think I don't know, itjust seems like they're it the
(29:30):
two are gonna like butt upagainst each other, you know,
like people using it and andworkforces wanting like stuff
for cheaper and quicker.
SPEAKER_00 (29:40):
Yeah, that's true.
And you know, the other thingabout using AI, and you know,
we've experienced this is thatyou have to be careful when
using AI because AI can tend tokind of make up stuff along the
way.
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, tome, it's it's a tool.
It's I I don't see it asreplacing people, I see it as a
(30:03):
tool.
Um are there certain instanceswhere you can replace AI for
human beings and vice versa?
Yeah, I can see those argumentsbeing, but um I think it's a
dangerous trend because youdon't want to go crazy with it
because if you're not careful,um AI can kind of invent stuff
(30:24):
on their own that could becatastrophic to your business
too.
SPEAKER_02 (30:28):
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I was just I was readingabout some, I think a university
or something that had sent out abrochure um in that they put
like people's faces in it, butreally it was like a just a
picture of like cut-off heads.
So it's a bunch of like join ourstudents this year.
And it was just a picture oflike headless students, which I
(30:48):
think is amazing.
I I've even like something thatI don't like, which is kind of a
cousin of all of this, is umluckily none of my jobs have had
this, but I've heard more andmore about like productivity
tools that managers make theirpeople have, where it's like you
download it and it's a very bigbrother in the fact that you
have it on your computer and itlike tracks your mouse and then
(31:10):
it tracks your if your computerlike you know, and some I've
even heard some of like it ifyou like go dark for longer than
10 minutes, it alerts yourmanagement and it will lock your
computer.
I'm like, what if you have tojust use the bathroom or like
take a personal call?
And I feel like that is becomingreally scary too, just like the
monitoring and treating us likenot humans, you know, like that
(31:32):
treating people like robots, Ifeel like is a big issue.
And like I I don't know now inthis point of my life, like I
wouldn't take a job like thatthat's monitoring your like
every move just because thatfeels so gross.
SPEAKER_00 (31:43):
I agree.
I mean, I look at it like this,Maryland.
If you need to watch someonethat closely, there's one of two
things going on.
Either one, one, you're a shittymanager to begin with, or you
don't have the right person in aposition.
But if you have the time tomonitor people like that in your
team, what are you doing allday?
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
I mean, you don't have the yeah, like I I can
totally see, I mean, it's awhole different side thing, but
I I can see the usage of liketime tracking tools, but not
when it's like, okay, you'reaway from your computer for
longer than five minutes or tenminutes.
Like, I I think that's gonna belike the next kind of epidemic
that we're talking about, too,because a lot of the work from
(32:25):
home stuff now, it's like, okay,you can work from home, but
we're going to um like look atyour screen and then we'll
download so that they can likeactively in real time watch what
people are doing, and that justseems so weird.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
And you know, the interesting thing, and I know I
did see this, I gotta look itup.
But on average, when people workfrom home, they actually work
more hours, yeah.
So you actually get a lot moreproductivity of a person working
from home, it sounds it does.
SPEAKER_02 (32:55):
I think it's so cruel to be like you can't step
away from your computer forlonger than five minutes.
Like, what if you need a drinkof water or like to let your pet
out or something?
And I I just think more and moreemployees and managers have to
like fight back the same waythat we're fighting back against
like AI and hopefully not firingeveryone.
We also have to that's not okayeither, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (33:15):
Oh, yeah.
And you know, with a lot ofpeople, and I know there's this
big kick about getting everybodyback in the office, but there's
a lot of companies that see thebenefit in having either remote
or hybrid workers, and you know,that's one of the biggest things
that people ask about now whenthey're interviewing about, you
know, especially if it's anoffice job, you know, is it
remote, is it hybrid orwhatever?
(33:36):
That's a huge, huge factor thatuh a lot of people put, you
know, on their top three thingsthat they want in the job.
SPEAKER_02 (33:44):
Exactly.
I'd rather work like 30freelance jobs than have one job
that was like tracking when I'mlike taking a drink of water and
stuff.
So yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (33:54):
Yeah, I agree with you on that.
I I would be miserable on thatkind of job.
SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
I just can't like I think once you're past the age
of like eight, you don't need tobe tracked like you're a robot,
but um, but yeah, we'll see.
AI will be out of control.
Well, that makes me feel likeI'm on a roller coaster ride,
just like this next story.
Uh, I thought this was supercrazy.
Uh uh a couple saved a girl on aroller coaster after she let out
(34:22):
a blood-curdling scream when herseatbelt allegedly failed.
Um, it was a Missouri couple,Chris and Cassie Evans, said
that they were riding the Mambaroller coaster at Worlds of Fun
in Kansas City when they heard ascream behind them.
And uh they heard that uh it washe and his wife looked back and
saw that a girl in her seat, theseatbelt had become unsecure,
(34:44):
and like between her and the barwas a really big, uh big space,
like big enough for her to fallout.
So people started holding on toher when the roller coaster was
dipping and turning.
And thank goodness she was ableto uh they held her down, and
the wife pushed her down on herlegs, and she was able to
survive.
Um, the Mamba was it is thetallest ride at the park, and
(35:06):
there's an initial drop of 205feet, and it accelerates at 75
miles per hour.
So, of course, like if she wasto fall, she probably wouldn't
have made it.
And you know, this girl reallyowes them her life, and sounds
like a lawsuit waiting to happenagainst the park, right?
SPEAKER_00 (35:23):
Yes, it is, and I've I've said this before, and I'll
say it again.
This is why I no longer rideroller coasters because you
know, to me, making me feel likeI'm about to lose my life or
something like that, that's notfun.
That's that's not fun.
SPEAKER_02 (35:39):
Yeah, and I also feel like the amount of
beeferoni I've been eating,like, no couple's about to hold
me down on the roller coaster.
Like if my seatbelt is poppingopen, I'm every the whole roller
coaster is gonna go down at thispoint, so yeah.
But but don't you hear all thetime about people getting stuck
on like almost I feel like dailythe same situation where we're
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hearing about planes and likejust all these weird plane
things, it also feels like theum amusement parks are going
crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (36:07):
Yeah, they are, and you know the thing is it's like
everybody's trying to outdo aperson.
What about just some simplelittle bit of loops or whatever,
and little curves here andthere?
You just have a good time, youknow, not trying to scare people
to death, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (36:22):
Yeah, I agree, and I think it's awesome of the couple
because a lot of people in thissociety in this state wouldn't
help, they would just be like,they wouldn't even like think to
not because they're bad, butjust because they're like frozen
in fear or something.
SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
Yeah, that's true.
I I don't know.
I just think that um it's justgetting a little bit too crazy
because at what point do youstop?
You know what I mean?
What's the next thing?
You're gonna bungee jump fromthe top of the world series of
the uh you know of uh of theSears Tower?
It's called the Willows Tower.
I'm old school, it's still SearsTower, but what's the you know
(36:55):
what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Exactly.
I mean, people do all the timetoo, but yeah, it seems like uh
especially like I'm not gettingstuck upside down on a roller
coaster or anything.
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
Yeah, I agree.
And here's the thing you know,when they get stuck, that little
platform they walk on isincredibly, incredibly thin,
it's not very wide at all.
SPEAKER_02 (37:16):
Yeah, no, there's no way.
I there's no I know I would getto like 10 feet and then just
slip off.
SPEAKER_00 (37:25):
Well, if you slip off that high, you probably
won't remember it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:28):
So exactly.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
So let me ask you this if they had this big
opening, world's tallest rollercoaster, and we're gonna give
you ten thousand dollars, Merle,if you ride it.
Would you ride it?
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
Oh has it been tested?
SPEAKER_00 (37:47):
I would hope so, but yes, let's it's been tested.
SPEAKER_02 (37:50):
Okay, yeah, for 10 grand.
I do think it depends, and it'snot like a fair that just came
in.
If it's I I do think I wouldride it, I I would just have to
like take I would take like 19Xanax and then ride it.
I would just be like limp.
SPEAKER_00 (38:06):
But yeah, you know what?
That's a good point becausethose traveling um amusement
parks are much different thanthe regular standard amusement
parks because it seems like thetraveling ones, their equipment
is like incredibly old andrattly, and it's like this don't
sound very safe.
SPEAKER_02 (38:22):
I know, and the ones that scare me the most too the
ones that like almost don't havea track and then they click in,
like you know, you it's likethey have a track and it's like
a space, and then they clickback together.
That's just crazy, or ones thatlike go underwater or something
like that's that's just now, butyeah, I feel like for 10 grand I
would greet and bear it like onetime and just really hope for
the best.
SPEAKER_00 (38:44):
There you go.
I I like that.
I like that.
What about the ones that swingback and forth and then it goes
up and stops?
SPEAKER_02 (38:51):
No, I probably honestly for 10 grand.
I I probably stupidly would goon it, and then if we got stuck
upside down, I would just fallout.
I would just release myself likea bat and fall out.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Well, this is a great, great episode.
Hey Merle, tell everybody whatyou have coming up.
SPEAKER_02 (39:14):
Okay, well, I promise this show will happen
soon, and we guys won't have tohear about it.
But today you do um November12th at the La Jolla Comedy
Store.
Uh, it's called the ShindigShow, and I'm hosting, and Tom
Arnold is the headliner.
SPEAKER_00 (39:29):
Oh, cool.
Well, this has been a lot offun.
This has been so fun.
Well, everyone, thank you forwatching us.
Um, definitely remember to tellpeople who we are, share.
Um, and also if you have anysuggestions, comments, or
anything about some of thetopics we talk about, come to
our social media sites and letus know.
SPEAKER_01 (39:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:53):
I'm Lauren Selbrod.
SPEAKER_02 (39:55):
I'm Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
Have a great day, everyone.
Hi, everybody.
Hello everyone.
Welcome to this week's episodeof Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lauren Selt.
SPEAKER_02 (00:21):
And I'm Meryl Kleemau.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
Hey Meryl, how are you?
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
Good.
I don't know why.
I just heard like heavybreathing.
I can hear myself.
I'm like, shut up.
I'm really good.
Yeah.
That happens on videos too.
I'll like play it back and I'llhear myself like breathing so
loudly.
I'm like, ew, go away.
But other than that, I'm reallygood.
(00:46):
How about yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
I am doing fantastic.
I can't complain.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
Good.
SPEAKER_00 (00:52):
I'm going to start off with a very interesting
topic.
SPEAKER_01 (00:56):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:57):
Now we've all, you know, at one point or another
found something sitting, youknow, on the floor, let's say in
a store, a park lot, wherever.
Well, a 17-year-old boy's nameis Adrian found a wallet in a
supermarket parking lot.
He returned the wallet to theowner.
(01:17):
Uh, the wallet had$10,000 in it,and he returned it to her for
all$10,000 in there.
And then, ironically, was suedby the owner saying that um
there's$3,000 missing.
What to me, this whole story isjust absolutely nuts for a
(01:40):
number of reasons.
SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Um, for one, I don't know, maybe it's me, but if I'm
gonna steal money out of wallet,I'm gonna take all of the money.
I'm not gonna just take personalback.
And then you kind of wonder isis there something going on with
the person trying to, you know,you know, trying to pull a fast
(02:03):
one or trying to take advantageof the situation?
What do you think, Meryl?
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Um, well, I mean, like, yeah, that's so are they
suing him for three thousanddollars?
And that's crazy.
I wonder if there's a way tolike yeah, that's absolutely
crazy.
And and they you it they lost itin the first place.
So like it's gone.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's I feel like that'sif you lose your wallet, like
unfortunately, you're notentitled to.
(02:29):
I mean, I think I don't knowlegal what the legal answer is,
but to me, like even if like adollar is missing to ten
thousand dollars, like that'sthat's your that's just bad, you
know.
Like that's unfortunate, butyou've lost it.
SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, when the police werecalled, even the police said
that they have no way of knowingwho's telling the truth or who's
lying.
You know, so and what what'sinteresting is that there's
something that I kind of pulledoff of uh off the internet, so I
want to kind of read it toeveryone to kind of get your
perspective.
Um, it says here Adrian can't besued by the wallet's owner for
(03:04):
returning the money.
Instead, the owner is likelysuing Adrian for damages related
to the$10,000 in the wallet.
The owner has no legal groundsto sue for the return of the
money if it was returned intact,but could potentially sue for
the costs incurred due to nothaving the money, such as bank
fees or lost income.
(03:24):
Adrian can defend himself byproviding evidence that the
wallet was returned and themoney was intact.
SPEAKER_02 (03:33):
This is nuts, and all the truth is it really is
because it's like, why would youthink and even say let's say
that is the truth.
Like, if worse comes to worseand that person returned it for
some reason, but also stolethree thousand dollars, then
like I'm sorry, but then thatalso like that sucks, but that's
just the person that found yourwallet and returned it, you
know.
(03:53):
Like, like you're lucky that Ifeel like most people probably
wouldn't have it returned it atall and just kept going.
SPEAKER_00 (03:59):
Oh, exactly.
And you know, people are gonnasee this story and be like, Oh,
that's an easy fix to this.
If I find money in a wallet,yeah, I'm just gonna keep the
wallet and then I'll destroy,I'll keep the money and I'll
destroy the wallet.
That's what people say.
SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
Exactly.
And also, I mean, I'm sure manyof us are asking, even if you
have the money and so muchmoney, like why on earth would
you keep ten thousand dollars ofcash on you?
Like, unless you are walkingphysically to the bank to
deposit that, it just seems likenot a very good idea to have
that much cash like on yourperson at any given time.
SPEAKER_00 (04:31):
No, and then the other thing too, what's so crazy
about it, Merle, is you know, itcosts money to sue someone.
So if hypothetically, let's saythe person stole 3,000, it's
gonna cost you more than that toget the 3,000 back.
So you know, you have to kind oflook at it as what are you
(04:53):
really suing for?
Because it ain't the money,because you're gonna spend more
on legal fees.
SPEAKER_02 (04:57):
Exactly.
You almost have to pretend likethat's the like the reward or
like a finder's fee or somethingis like thirty thousand dollars,
and then just figure, okay, Imean that that's a ton of money,
but that's not so much that likeif you're that wealthy, you
can't just move on with yourlife and just be like, okay,
maybe they took it, maybe theydidn't.
I'm not gonna think about thisanymore.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah, I agree.
And and and here's the otherthing: even if let's say you
can't afford to lose anybody,the way I look at it like this
is because there's no way ofknowing who's telling the truth
to who's lying, if I lost awallet with 13,000 and I got
10,000 back, I still chalk thatup as a win.
Yeah, I'm not happy about losing3,000, but I still chalk it up
(05:40):
as a win.
What do you think?
Me too.
SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
I think so too.
I would be like, okay, that'sannoying.
Can you please give it back tome if you took it?
But also I would just say, Iwould just understand that's
probably such a big amount ofmoney to some people that they
would just like that even ifthey had to take it, who knows?
You know, that yeah, that's justcrazy.
It's funny too, because I reallycan say like wholeheartedly, if
I found that I wouldn't keep it,not because I'm like such a good
(06:05):
person, but because I'm like, Idon't I believe that if you take
money like that, I really dobelieve in karma in that kind of
way.
And I do believe that likesomething bad would end up like
coming from taking that type ofmoney.
SPEAKER_00 (06:17):
Yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, if I found that money, II'd give it back too.
Wink wink.
No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_02 (06:22):
I'm just yeah, normally I would like if it was
like I I only would do thatbecause I'm scared for myself.
It's like a self-centered reasonwhy I wouldn't keep it, it's not
like an altruistic reason.
SPEAKER_00 (06:34):
You know what?
Hey, you're a very honestperson, there's nothing wrong
with that.
SPEAKER_02 (06:38):
I know, I know, but it's only because I'm I'm I'm
obsessed with my own situation.
Like, you know what I mean?
It has nothing to do with theother person, it's just because
like I don't want the bad thing.
I'm like, okay, if you takethree thousand dollars and you
put a down payment on a car orsomething, I just would believe
that then like that car mightlike get into an accident, or
like I don't know, I just havelike weird superstitions in that
kind of way.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
So now now you're making me give the money back if
I found a mess.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Sorry, but we have to give the money back because
then I also believe that theuniverse not to be so
California, but like then Ibelieve that the universe will
reward you.
Like, I really do to think likeI've even heard that them say
that too, that if you like pickup trash, like obviously not
trash that's gonna make you sickor something, but if you like
throw away garbage and that thatlike is supposed to bring you a
lot of good luck because you'rehelping like clean the world and
(07:26):
stuff.
So I believe it when it comes tothis, too.
That if you gave it back, Ireally do think they'll get
rewarded.
SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
That's true, that's true.
And I think this young man isprobably gonna get rewarded when
he least expected because ofthis good deed that he did.
SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
Exactly.
Oh, that's true.
The possibility that he didn'ttake anything is getting blamed
for this, that's crazy too.
Like, which is probably thetruth.
Like, if he is giving it back infull, and then the things that
he gets is getting sued is likethat would make yeah, that would
make me like really crash out,as the kid say.
SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
I mean, like I said, we we don't know one way or the
other, but I don't know.
To me, if this kid wanted tospend spend uh steal money, he's
not giving any of it back.
That's just if I'm gonna if I'mgonna steal three thousand, why
not just steal the whole thing?
SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
Exactly, exactly, and just say, Oh, here's your
wallet.
Like, I don't know where thecash was, I'm not sure, you
know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
Exactly, exactly.
Oh interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Well, someone that is giving some money away is
Billie Eilish, the singer thatwe all know and a lot of people
love.
Um, she will be she donatedeleven uh$11.5 million of
proceeds from her hit me hardand soft tour to support
organizations, projects, andvoices dedicated to food equity,
(08:48):
um, reducing carbon pollutionand combating the climate
crisis.
And then she made news when shewas um accepting a music
innovator award at um, I thinkit was a Wall Street Journal
magazine um awards.
Yeah, yeah, it was an um anaward is for Wall Street
Journal.
And uh she was talking withStephen Colbert, and then she
(09:10):
got up and took the mic and thenwas very brave and saying, like,
you know, there's a lot ofpeople here in the room that
have more money than me,alluding to the billionaires in
the room, which were like MarkZuckerberg, and I think a few
others, and just basicallysaying, like, there's no need to
be a billionaire.
And then she said, like, giveyour money away, shorties, which
I thought was really cute.
And I mean, Billie Eilish isyoung, is really young, so of
(09:31):
course she has that kind of likeyounger bravado, but I think
that's amazing.
Um, it got a lot of backlashonline just because I think
people sometimes feel like,well, you're one to talk, you
have lots of money, but it'slike a millionaire is a lot
different than a billionaire,and she does actively give away
a lot of money, like she doesgive away a lot of money, you
(09:52):
know.
So um I think I think Iunderstand the sentiment of like
it was almost when like AOC woreaddress to Grammys or somewhere
that's had like tax the rich orwhatever, and people are like,
ew, you know, you're one of themtoo, whatever.
But I think there's a definitedifference, and it's no one
usually people in that circledon't call each other out, so I
(10:13):
feel like it's a really big dealfor like a young woman to to
speak up to like people that aremore powerful and rich than her.
SPEAKER_00 (10:22):
Agree.
And you know, the other thingtoo, and I know some people are
gonna get mad about me sayingthis, but a lot of people don't
understand how money works.
And what I mean by that is let'ssay you won a million dollars,
okay, in a lottery, okay, andyou don't have to get it over
the years, you get in one lumpsum payment.
(10:43):
Well, that million dollars isnot a million dollars because
you're gonna pay taxes on it,and the tax on that million
dollars is probably gonna besomewhere around 40% or more.
So let's just say 40%.
So now that million just wentdown to 600,000.
Okay, so you're thinking, well,hey, that's still a lot of
money.
Okay, you want to buy a house.
Well, most houses these days fora standard three-bedroom,
(11:06):
two-bath, depending on where youlive, is probably gonna be
somewhere between 150 and 350,depending on where you live.
So more than half your money isalready gone.
Yeah.
You want to buy a vehicle?
Well, the average vehicle costis around 50,000 now.
So now you just lost 50,000 to anew vehicle, but you again, you
don't have no note.
(11:26):
Again, you can live comfortablyoff that for a few years, but
let's say, let's say you're 40years old, even 50 years old.
How long do you think a couplehundred thousand dollars is
gonna carry you on?
So huge difference between abillionaire and a billionaire,
they're not even in the sameballpark.
So I really like for what she'ssaying because here's the
reality (11:50):
if you have a billion dollars free and clear in your
account, what is giving up a fewmillion dollars and all.
SPEAKER_02 (11:58):
I know, I know, and it's like how many houses and
like cars?
I mean, uh, the answer is a lot.
Like, we know if I it's like Iwant a lot of houses and a lot
of cars, but you can have allthat and help a lot of people.
Um, and also like, except I do Ido think people can help people
in the way that they want, theydon't have to like donate to
every single thing because Ialso think too, like, you know,
(12:20):
I love animals.
I feel like if I was to becomelike a billionaire, millionaire,
that's it.
Like, I would priceke you alittle bit more towards helping
animals than I would like theenvironment, or you know, who
knows?
But like uh, I think people candonate in ways that they want,
and what we also don't need toput pressure on those with money
to like donate exactly the waywe want to, you know, like that
we see fit.
But I mean, this is an actualissue too, like the food crisis
(12:44):
and the environmental crisislike does affect all of us.
So I think that they're sayingthat okay, well, if you're
taking so much from our system,it's like you should give back
to everyone and like as anoverall kind of unit.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
I agree.
And you know, the reality isthat you know there's nothing
wrong with with being human andhaving compassion for other
people.
There really isn't.
Because when it boils down toit, what you know, one day we're
all gonna die.
We're all in that line to go up,go to go up to heaven or the
opposite, depending on youropposite.
(13:20):
But the reality is that when youdie, that graveyard plot is the
same, regardless of whether youhave a dollar or a billion
dollars.
There's no difference in thetwo.
So why not show compassion whileyou're here?
And again, I'm not saying gocrazy, give away all your money
or whatever, but you know,there's nothing wrong with
(13:41):
having a heart and helpingpeople who need help.
There's nothing wrong with thatat all.
SPEAKER_02 (13:46):
I know, especially since like if you can buy like
nine houses outright and helpyour family and have parts, and
then have so much more, and thenjust be like living off, like
even the interest that you makeis enough to like replenish
itself over and over.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
This is gonna be a fun one here.
I'm quite sure everyoneremembers the uh the Louvre
Museum heist.
Yeah, um, a couple things.
One, they really need to findthem a new occupation.
(14:25):
Um, the four suspects werearrested.
And I'm thinking, wow, thatdidn't take very long.
SPEAKER_02 (14:34):
Yeah, that was really quick.
SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
Yes, yes.
Um, I'm looking at a story here.
Four suspects in uh Louvre Heisthave been uh handed uh
preliminary charges andincarcerated, including three
believed to be masterminded witha team who forced its way into
the museum, leaving with$102million worth of crown jewels.
(15:00):
Paris prosecutor uh LaurieBacoua noted that apparent
closeness of the suspects.
Two of them were convicted in2015 in the same theft case, and
all are based in Paris, northernsuburbs.
Okay, so that yeah, that furthersays that yeah, y'all need to
(15:20):
find y'all a different um hobbythere.
But I'm shocked that theyarrested them so fast.
What about you, Myral?
SPEAKER_02 (15:30):
Um, I mean, normally I would say yes, but the way
this whole thing went down withjust the fact there was like a
ladder above the museum andpeople were taking videos of
like we can see the ladder, andthis whole thing just seems kind
of like sloppy and quick to me,even though you know it went
down really quickly and theywere able to get out and like uh
(15:51):
they were able to do stuff veryquickly.
It just seems like it was kindof sloppy thinking.
It doesn't seem like it was themost precise heist ever.
So it doesn't surprise me.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Yeah, because I mean when it first happened, it was
amazing that they were showingthe ladder that went up there.
Then there was a video of theperson cutting into one of the
glasses.
I'm like, okay, maybe they knowwhat they're doing.
I mean, don't sound too brightthere, but you know, hey, maybe
they know what they're doing.
And then I think there was evena video of the getaway vehicle
(16:22):
or whatever.
I'm like, yeah, this ain'tlooking too good for them, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
Exactly.
But yeah, that has to be likewhat a roller coaster of
emotions they've had in the pastfew weeks, because then they
it's like they probably plannedit, they did it, they think they
got away with it, and then it'slike, nope, you're caught.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
Uh big question is is where's the crown jewels that
they stole?
SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
I don't know.
Remember, there were some thatthey just like threw on the
sidewalk, or you know, that theywere like, Okay, we don't need
this, or they didn't get awaywith it.
Who knows if they like put themsomewhere knowing they may get
caught, or there's like anotherperson or entity involved
somewhere, or yeah, if it's likehidden.
SPEAKER_00 (17:00):
I wonder if there's something else going on involved
because one of the things thatauthorities have pointed out was
they bypass other jewelry andother relics worth way more than
what they stole, which is kindof weird when you think about
it.
It's like what was what was sounique about the specific pieces
they're after?
You know, yeah, you know, werethey I'm sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
Oh, I was gonna ask, like, my inner conspiracy
theorist is already is like whatif the people that work there
are also involved a lot.
Like, do you believe that evenmore people are in on it than
than that were caught?
SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
You know, the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me.
Um the reason I say that isbecause one they had no fear of
doing what they're doing, andthe museum was open when they
were doing it, and people wereon the floor with as well.
So either they're they've theygot a lot of balls or they're
(17:57):
very stupid.
I don't know which one of thetwo.
Probably sometimes those two gohand in hand.
But they left a lot of evidencebehind, so maybe they're not the
brightest, you know, thesharpest knife in the drawer, I
guess, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
And that's that's the whole because everyone was
saying how much it did feel likean Ocean's 11 situation, but
it's like you have to not getcaught, you have to be so good
that your traces are almostinvisible.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
That is true, that is true.
Um, do you think it's gonna spura lot of copycats?
SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
Yeah, in fact, I even saw I saw it um in
California there were some typeof heist in a museum that
happened.
I wasn't I didn't have enoughtime to see exactly what it was.
Um, but we went to a museum overthe weekend, uh, an art museum
that had a lot of like gold andsculptures and old um ancient
(18:50):
art and everything.
They had like a few really bigones, like a Monet and a
different ones.
And they had the security waslike off the charts.
Like usually there's peoplestanding around, but they were
like monitoring every move.
Um, they were yelling at us atpeople for getting too close to
the painting.
So I feel like word has spread,and they definitely are like
doubling down a lot in themuseums, at least that I've been
(19:14):
to.
SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
Yeah, that that's definitely true.
That's definitely true.
I just figure that they'reprobably gonna be on um you
remember that show, America'sdumbest criminals?
Yeah, they're probably gonna behighlighted on that show for
some reason.
SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
I know it I feel like it's it's gonna be Vem, and
then a lot of people fromFlorida.
Like, I feel like it's just it'salways the criminals that are
like, you know, at the gasstation, they drive away like
with a pump still in the car orsomething, just like so
ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
That's true, that's true.
Or or I I remember one watchingone story where someone went
into a store, paid something,paid for something with a check,
and then turn around and rob thestore.
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
Literally went to their house to arrest them.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Oh see, that's really like I know my place.
Like, I'm not smart enough torob a bank or to understand how
to do that, so I just stay stayhere.
SPEAKER_00 (20:13):
Yes, yes.
Um, yeah, they they reallyshould spend some time on a new
career, though.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Definitely.
Well, I thought this one wasinteresting.
I'd love to know your thoughtsand even your son's thoughts on
this.
Um, the article was titled, AreWe Living Through a Rap Drought?
The Billboard Charts Suggest WeAre.
Now, it's for the first timesince 1990, there's no hip-hop
in the top 40 of the Billboard100 chart.
(20:38):
Um the last time that happenedwas the week of February 2nd,
1990, when the top-rinking rapsong was Biz Marquis song, Just
a Friend, which I love that songso much.
Uh, and yeah, there's no rapsongs currently on the Hot 100
list.
I think Susa and Kendrick Lamar,um, they had a 13-week billboard
that fell off.
(20:59):
Um, and yeah, I think it's kindof interesting.
Like, I think I think we're Imean, I guess my answer is no.
I don't think hip hop isdeclining.
I feel like there's a lot of aton of amazing artists out
there.
Um, but we just radio and socialmedia and everyone like need
(21:20):
help to put the spotlight onthem.
Like, I don't feel like it'sthat they're not good people out
there.
I feel like they just need alittle push in getting
discovered.
SPEAKER_00 (21:28):
Yeah, that's true.
I think part of the otherproblem too is the industry has
this real bad habit of copycat.
In other words, they see someonethat is very popular, their song
is doing great, and what theytry to do is mimic that person.
So you'll basically listen toit, and it's similar to other
(21:50):
songs that you've heard, and alot of the creativity is gone in
in music, even rap and hip-hop.
There was a lot of creativityback in the 90s, even the 2000s.
SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
Yeah, but you don't see that now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:04):
Excuse me.
SPEAKER_02 (22:06):
See, yeah, and I feel like the artists, the
artists are out there, they justneed help being discovered.
I think, I think that's like Ithink when we we look at the
Billboard 100, and it's like somany pop girls, which I love.
Like, I love that's kind of likewhat I really love so much.
But it's like the Taylor Swiftsand the Sabrina Carpenters and
the Tate McRae's, like, they allhave so much help and money
(22:27):
behind them.
And I just think we need to likepour a little more into the into
the the new, you know, indiepeople, indie rap people.
SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
Yeah, and I I think that you know, maybe the record
companies aren't doing the bestjob, you know, finding people
because there's a lot ofincredible talent out there.
Yeah, um, even in the the RB hiphop world, there's a lot of
incredible talent that mostpeople have never heard of.
Um, primarily because either A,they don't want anything to do
(22:56):
with record companies because ofall the negative things
associated with it, or they getpassed up because you know,
maybe they do have a potentialdeal on the table, but the the
record company wants them tokind of change their style.
Say, well, we like what you'redoing, but this is hot over
here, so just do somethingsimilar to this.
(23:16):
And I think I think thecreativity is really, really
missing from a lot of what'sgoing on out there.
SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
I think you're so right.
I feel like it's such a longertopic that we could talk about
for it, could be its ownepisode, but I feel like artists
like Lujia Cat, and I was hopingI was really hoping this
wouldn't happen to Dochi.
But like once the industry kindof gets your their hooks in you,
I feel like they make people Idon't want to say sell out, but
they definitely have a certainpath that they want their
artists to go down.
And all of a sudden they'relike, I hate to say it, but I
(23:44):
have like little Nas X andstuff, you know.
Like, I don't know, all of asudden you're like dancing with
Satan, and it just kind of likelooks weird.
And I feel like these areartists that are true, truly
great musicians, but it's likeonce a huge label and the music
industry gets into them, it likeit turns them into what they
want it to be instead of liketheir natural, you know, talent.
SPEAKER_00 (24:05):
That's sad, but it's so true.
It is so true.
That's why, you know, sadlyenough, a lot of up-and-coming
artists want nothing to do withthe with the music industry,
they'd rather just goindependent just because they
don't want to deal with thenonsense.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yeah, I also don't like the the idea that in order
for like hip-hop or rap to be onthe charts, there has to be some
type of like beef betweenartists too.
Because that was anothersentiment that I saw, you know,
and of course, beef is fun, welove it, but it's like I feel
like a Kendrick or a Drake orwhoever deserves to be on the
charts just as much, like evenif they don't have a beef and
(24:42):
like there's not a distract orsomething.
So I feel like it's like it'ssometimes it needs to be taken
more seriously as a genre, too,without having to have beef.
SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
I agree with you 100% on that because you know,
when it's all said and done,there's room for everyone to be
successful.
No one's gonna listen to onesong over and over again for 20
hours straight.
Um except for they not likethere's some other issues going
on if you do.
Yeah, but there's enough roomfor everyone to be successful.
(25:15):
So I think they should really,really kind of open their eyes
on what's out there and youknow, and not be so so cynical
and so so ruthless becausethere's been artists that have
said, uh, and this isallegations, we don't know that
you know they've had theirrecord company shelf their songs
because they want to boostanother arts.
SPEAKER_02 (25:36):
Yeah, and then they get stuck, yeah.
Even like like Jojo and peoplelike that.
There's been people that havebeen very vocal about saying I
would I couldn't have made a newrecord because I was like under
the record label and I was juststuck there.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (25:52):
So let's hope things change.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Yeah, and that's one reason I love TikTok because I
think a lot of times too, songsthat like wouldn't be expected
become really popular or songsrecirculate from the 90s, and
like the new generation findsout stuff, and I just I think
it's a really great tool forlike showing the industry what's
what we like.
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
I agree, I agree 100% on that.
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
Really fast.
Did we get any hate from what Isaid about Britney last week?
Were people upset or not really?
You know what?
No, no backlash at all.
unknown (26:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (26:27):
If you if you if you didn't listen, don't go back and
listen.
It was okay.
All I'm saying is that Britney'snot not on the 100 charts, so uh
yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:38):
Talk about interesting trends.
Um, an increasing trend ofcompanies laying off employees
and replacing them with AI.
Um this is something I know thatwe've touched on many times, and
now it's starting to becomereality.
Um, there's an increasing trendof companies laying off
(26:58):
employees, with many explicitlyciting AI adoption, automation,
and strategic shift towards thetowards an AI-first future as
key reasons.
Um things to highlight here.
There's a growing statistics inthe US that over 10,000 job cuts
(27:18):
in the first seven months of2025 were directly linked to AI,
and a single month, September2025, saw another 7,000
AI-related cuts reportedly byone outplacement firm.
I personally think that numberis low.
(27:38):
I could be wrong, but I thinkthat number is low.
Um, some high-profile examplesof this is uh SalesPurse CEO
Mark Minioff stated that AIenabled him to reduce support
headcount from 9,000 to 5,000.
UPS eliminated 48,000 positionsin 2025 using automation,
(28:04):
corporate shorthand for AI toimprove network efficiency.
And Amazon, which everyone knowswho they are, leadership has
indicated that efficiency gainsfrom using AI extensively help
shrinkage its corporateworkplace.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
I mean, like for my other when I'm not doing this, I
wish I could do this full time,but when I'm not doing this, um
a lot of my job is going todefinitely be replaced.
Like I work in podcasting,writing, writing for people and
copywriting.
And I've already had like maybethree of my long-term clients
lovingly pack up and go and justsay, like, we love you, but
we're going to use AI instead.
(28:46):
So like I've definitely seen ithappen real time.
And then, you know, you thinkyou're not replaceable, or
people will want humans, butit's like, no, they just want
like they want to do the workwith themselves in like 12
minutes when I, you know, yearsago, it would take me a really
long time to do it.
Now it's just like you can putin a transcript and have it done
really quickly.
Um, so I do think it's sad.
(29:09):
And and as much as they say,like, oh, it's up to us to work
with the tools and work withchat GPT and then and AI, it
just is not fun.
And like, I don't know, I feellike AI just their chat GBT like
gives me a headache and it kindof makes me feel icky when I'm
like using it for too long.
So I'm actually trying to likemove away from it.
And I think I don't know, itjust seems like they're it the
(29:30):
two are gonna like butt upagainst each other, you know,
like people using it and andworkforces wanting like stuff
for cheaper and quicker.
SPEAKER_00 (29:40):
Yeah, that's true.
And you know, the other thingabout using AI, and you know,
we've experienced this is thatyou have to be careful when
using AI because AI can tend tokind of make up stuff along the
way.
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, tome, it's it's a tool.
It's I I don't see it asreplacing people, I see it as a
(30:03):
tool.
Um are there certain instanceswhere you can replace AI for
human beings and vice versa?
Yeah, I can see those argumentsbeing, but um I think it's a
dangerous trend because youdon't want to go crazy with it
because if you're not careful,um AI can kind of invent stuff
(30:24):
on their own that could becatastrophic to your business
too.
SPEAKER_02 (30:28):
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I was just I was readingabout some, I think a university
or something that had sent out abrochure um in that they put
like people's faces in it, butreally it was like a just a
picture of like cut-off heads.
So it's a bunch of like join ourstudents this year.
And it was just a picture oflike headless students, which I
(30:48):
think is amazing.
I I've even like something thatI don't like, which is kind of a
cousin of all of this, is umluckily none of my jobs have had
this, but I've heard more andmore about like productivity
tools that managers make theirpeople have, where it's like you
download it and it's a very bigbrother in the fact that you
have it on your computer and itlike tracks your mouse and then
(31:10):
it tracks your if your computerlike you know, and some I've
even heard some of like it ifyou like go dark for longer than
10 minutes, it alerts yourmanagement and it will lock your
computer.
I'm like, what if you have tojust use the bathroom or like
take a personal call?
And I feel like that is becomingreally scary too, just like the
monitoring and treating us likenot humans, you know, like that
(31:32):
treating people like robots, Ifeel like is a big issue.
And like I I don't know now inthis point of my life, like I
wouldn't take a job like thatthat's monitoring your like
every move just because thatfeels so gross.
SPEAKER_00 (31:43):
I agree.
I mean, I look at it like this,Maryland.
If you need to watch someonethat closely, there's one of two
things going on.
Either one, one, you're a shittymanager to begin with, or you
don't have the right person in aposition.
But if you have the time tomonitor people like that in your
team, what are you doing allday?
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
I mean, you don't have the yeah, like I I can
totally see, I mean, it's awhole different side thing, but
I I can see the usage of liketime tracking tools, but not
when it's like, okay, you'reaway from your computer for
longer than five minutes or tenminutes.
Like, I I think that's gonna belike the next kind of epidemic
that we're talking about, too,because a lot of the work from
(32:25):
home stuff now, it's like, okay,you can work from home, but
we're going to um like look atyour screen and then we'll
download so that they can likeactively in real time watch what
people are doing, and that justseems so weird.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
And you know, the interesting thing, and I know I
did see this, I gotta look itup.
But on average, when people workfrom home, they actually work
more hours, yeah.
So you actually get a lot moreproductivity of a person working
from home, it sounds it does.
SPEAKER_02 (32:55):
I think it's so cruel to be like you can't step
away from your computer forlonger than five minutes.
Like, what if you need a drinkof water or like to let your pet
out or something?
And I I just think more and moreemployees and managers have to
like fight back the same waythat we're fighting back against
like AI and hopefully not firingeveryone.
We also have to that's not okayeither, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (33:15):
Oh, yeah.
And you know, with a lot ofpeople, and I know there's this
big kick about getting everybodyback in the office, but there's
a lot of companies that see thebenefit in having either remote
or hybrid workers, and you know,that's one of the biggest things
that people ask about now whenthey're interviewing about, you
know, especially if it's anoffice job, you know, is it
remote, is it hybrid orwhatever?
(33:36):
That's a huge, huge factor thatuh a lot of people put, you
know, on their top three thingsthat they want in the job.
SPEAKER_02 (33:44):
Exactly.
I'd rather work like 30freelance jobs than have one job
that was like tracking when I'mlike taking a drink of water and
stuff.
So yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (33:54):
Yeah, I agree with you on that.
I I would be miserable on thatkind of job.
SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
I just can't like I think once you're past the age
of like eight, you don't need tobe tracked like you're a robot,
but um, but yeah, we'll see.
AI will be out of control.
Well, that makes me feel likeI'm on a roller coaster ride,
just like this next story.
Uh, I thought this was supercrazy.
Uh uh a couple saved a girl on aroller coaster after she let out
(34:22):
a blood-curdling scream when herseatbelt allegedly failed.
Um, it was a Missouri couple,Chris and Cassie Evans, said
that they were riding the Mambaroller coaster at Worlds of Fun
in Kansas City when they heard ascream behind them.
And uh they heard that uh it washe and his wife looked back and
saw that a girl in her seat, theseatbelt had become unsecure,
(34:44):
and like between her and the barwas a really big, uh big space,
like big enough for her to fallout.
So people started holding on toher when the roller coaster was
dipping and turning.
And thank goodness she was ableto uh they held her down, and
the wife pushed her down on herlegs, and she was able to
survive.
Um, the Mamba was it is thetallest ride at the park, and
(35:06):
there's an initial drop of 205feet, and it accelerates at 75
miles per hour.
So, of course, like if she wasto fall, she probably wouldn't
have made it.
And you know, this girl reallyowes them her life, and sounds
like a lawsuit waiting to happenagainst the park, right?
SPEAKER_00 (35:23):
Yes, it is, and I've I've said this before, and I'll
say it again.
This is why I no longer rideroller coasters because you
know, to me, making me feel likeI'm about to lose my life or
something like that, that's notfun.
That's that's not fun.
SPEAKER_02 (35:39):
Yeah, and I also feel like the amount of
beeferoni I've been eating,like, no couple's about to hold
me down on the roller coaster.
Like if my seatbelt is poppingopen, I'm every the whole roller
coaster is gonna go down at thispoint, so yeah.
But but don't you hear all thetime about people getting stuck
on like almost I feel like dailythe same situation where we're
(36:00):
hearing about planes and likejust all these weird plane
things, it also feels like theum amusement parks are going
crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (36:07):
Yeah, they are, and you know the thing is it's like
everybody's trying to outdo aperson.
What about just some simplelittle bit of loops or whatever,
and little curves here andthere?
You just have a good time, youknow, not trying to scare people
to death, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (36:22):
Yeah, I agree, and I think it's awesome of the couple
because a lot of people in thissociety in this state wouldn't
help, they would just be like,they wouldn't even like think to
not because they're bad, butjust because they're like frozen
in fear or something.
SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
Yeah, that's true.
I I don't know.
I just think that um it's justgetting a little bit too crazy
because at what point do youstop?
You know what I mean?
What's the next thing?
You're gonna bungee jump fromthe top of the world series of
the uh you know of uh of theSears Tower?
It's called the Willows Tower.
I'm old school, it's still SearsTower, but what's the you know
(36:55):
what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Exactly.
I mean, people do all the timetoo, but yeah, it seems like uh
especially like I'm not gettingstuck upside down on a roller
coaster or anything.
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
Yeah, I agree.
And here's the thing you know,when they get stuck, that little
platform they walk on isincredibly, incredibly thin,
it's not very wide at all.
SPEAKER_02 (37:16):
Yeah, no, there's no way.
I there's no I know I would getto like 10 feet and then just
slip off.
SPEAKER_00 (37:25):
Well, if you slip off that high, you probably
won't remember it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:28):
So exactly.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
So let me ask you this if they had this big
opening, world's tallest rollercoaster, and we're gonna give
you ten thousand dollars, Merle,if you ride it.
Would you ride it?
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
Oh has it been tested?
SPEAKER_00 (37:47):
I would hope so, but yes, let's it's been tested.
SPEAKER_02 (37:50):
Okay, yeah, for 10 grand.
I do think it depends, and it'snot like a fair that just came
in.
If it's I I do think I wouldride it, I I would just have to
like take I would take like 19Xanax and then ride it.
I would just be like limp.
SPEAKER_00 (38:06):
But yeah, you know what?
That's a good point becausethose traveling um amusement
parks are much different thanthe regular standard amusement
parks because it seems like thetraveling ones, their equipment
is like incredibly old andrattly, and it's like this don't
sound very safe.
SPEAKER_02 (38:22):
I know, and the ones that scare me the most too the
ones that like almost don't havea track and then they click in,
like you know, you it's likethey have a track and it's like
a space, and then they clickback together.
That's just crazy, or ones thatlike go underwater or something
like that's that's just now, butyeah, I feel like for 10 grand I
would greet and bear it like onetime and just really hope for
the best.
SPEAKER_00 (38:44):
There you go.
I I like that.
I like that.
What about the ones that swingback and forth and then it goes
up and stops?
SPEAKER_02 (38:51):
No, I probably honestly for 10 grand.
I I probably stupidly would goon it, and then if we got stuck
upside down, I would just fallout.
I would just release myself likea bat and fall out.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Well, this is a great, great episode.
Hey Merle, tell everybody whatyou have coming up.
SPEAKER_02 (39:14):
Okay, well, I promise this show will happen
soon, and we guys won't have tohear about it.
But today you do um November12th at the La Jolla Comedy
Store.
Uh, it's called the ShindigShow, and I'm hosting, and Tom
Arnold is the headliner.
SPEAKER_00 (39:29):
Oh, cool.
Well, this has been a lot offun.
This has been so fun.
Well, everyone, thank you forwatching us.
Um, definitely remember to tellpeople who we are, share.
Um, and also if you have anysuggestions, comments, or
anything about some of thetopics we talk about, come to
our social media sites and letus know.
SPEAKER_01 (39:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:53):
I'm Lauren Selbrod.
SPEAKER_02 (39:55):
I'm Meryl Climo.
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
Have a great day, everyone.
Hi, everybody.
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