January 20, 2025 • 38 mins
This conversation dives into our experiences at Podfest in Orlando, a networking and educational convention for podcasters. Together, we discuss the challenges, insights, and creative connections made during the event, all while reflecting on the journey of podcasting.
• Overview of Podfest and its significance
• The excitement and nerves of attending
• Networking experiences with fellow podcasters
• Insights gained about video podcasting strategies
• Reflections on personal podcasting journeys
• Tips for working with guests and finding unique stories
• Learning from panels and speakers
• Merchandise ideas and future aspirations
• Encouragement to connect and share knowledge with other podcasters
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
sorry, this is taken sorry, thank you for tuning in.
This is taken where I'm, yourhost, rob miranda, coming to you
live from orlando, florida,hanging out with mickey mouse
here.
Big guest, big news.
I'm gonna tell you what I'mgonna be doing out here.
It's gonna be a good episode, alittle bit and um, to help me
for my guest today, we're notgonna be talking about movies,
we're gonna be talking about bigpicture stuff here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And to help me, I got uh, fernando jimenez what's up,
what's up, what's up, bro, I'mglad to be here with you you
were just on a couple episodesago, but we talked about a
couple movies.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're not gonna be doing movies today.
Instead, we're gonna explainwhat we're doing out here in
orlando, florida.
Um, we're also like recording.
For those of you listening, youcan probably hear some
background noise a little bit.
It's a little noisy out herebecause we're also recording
outside and, um, this beautifulsetup we got going on here yeah,
bro pool party and everythinggoing on exactly, exactly, um,
but we came out here in lando,florida.
We got here a couple days agoand what we're doing out here?
(00:57):
We're here for 2025's pod fest.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's awesome for those you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Pod fest is like a big convention for a bunch of
podcasters across the world whocome here just to network and
learning a lot more things about, to improve their podcast or
just share their experiences.
Um, we got here aroundwednesday we're only halfway
through it, like we're recordingthis midway and it's been
incredible.
So far it's been amazing.
It's been amazing and you knowwe I wasn't gonna come on this
(01:22):
trip originally.
It was kind of the spur of themoment kind of thing, because
you were going to come out here.
You got invited to come outhere for free and you were
excited about it and were you alittle bit nervous to come out
here by yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm going to be honest, I was excited that I was
going to come by myself.
I liked the idea of finallygoing on a vacation completely
by myself.
I thought that would have beenlike very, just kind of
different for me.
You know, it's very different.
It was gonna help me get out ofmy shell and all that stuff.
But when I, when I was able tocome with you, I was also really
(01:54):
excited because you know whatit's gonna make things easier.
I'm gonna be out here with afriend, so I'm excited that
you're here with me we talkedabout this a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm definitely an introvert, you're I would
definitely say an extrovert.
I mean, yeah, so that's a plusfor me coming out here.
So, um, you, you got invited tocome out here and then, um, I
really wasn't going to comebecause I had other priorities I
was going to do, but it endedup falling through and I you
know what you helped, you hookedme up, you, you emailed them to
(02:22):
see if you can give me a freeticket too.
As you know other, you let themknow I have my own podcast and
stuff like that too and theywere grateful enough to give me
a pass for free.
Um, so I only had to pay for myplane ticket.
My biggest goal this year wasto save more money.
The first week, I spent a tonof money on plane tickets.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's all good man, I think sometimes it's an
investment, it's an investment,it's an investment, bro, because
if you think about it's aninvestment, it's an investment.
It's an investment, bro,because if you think about it,
the money that you spent at homewe would have been doing the
same repetitive stuff, so it'sworth it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, the whole point of this podcast is come
here to learn new things.
We're going to get into videopodcasting very soon and that's
one of the biggest things welearned so far.
So, how this podcast works, wego to this convention.
There's several panelsthroughout the whole day, you
know.
You just pick and sign whichones you want to do, but in
between to them is really wherethe magic happens.
We're networking with otherpodcasters and it's for only
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podcasters who are just theyhaven't even started yet, or who
are like 300 episodes deep inyeah, and we're meeting all
kinds of different people andlearning experiences.
We met some very interestingpeople, like all the way from
like a nine-year-old podcasterto like um someone doing
podcasts about goats and alittle bit of everything, yeah
yeah, people missing legs, Iforgot about that.
(03:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun and we metlike the most interesting man in
the world literally yeah we'lltalk about a little bit as we go
along, but you know you're likealmost 10 episodes deep in your
pocket so far.
Yes, how are you even feelingabout the process?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
um, it's definitely been up and down, um, so this is
my second time doing little shy, like a little shy rebrand, and
I it does.
Even though you do more, I feellike it's still it's not.
It doesn get easier, but itdoesn't get more difficult.
I think I start to criticizemyself more, you know, because
the more, the more episodes thatI upload, I'm like you know
(04:12):
what, I don't know if I'm likingthat format, so I'm able to
change it as I go, you know.
So the first 10 episodes, Ithink they're going, they're
going well, but I'm starting tonotice some things that I do
want to change.
But it's just going to push meto keep going.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean, the whole podcasting is just trial and
error so far.
We're skipping a lot of stuffby coming to this convention, by
skipping a lot of stuff fromwhat we could have been doing
Because, like I said, videoediting is hard as fuck for us
it's really hard no-transcriptpodcast because I've been doing
(04:51):
it.
I just hit my three years, likea week or two ago yeah you been
doing it for like two years,took a break and now you're
coming back, so we do definitelyhave the experience.
I mean, compared to my firstepisodes, like we talked about,
like the first 10 episodes, likeI didn't even know how to use
two microphones, yeah, it's hard.
We were switching, like handingthe microphone back off.
You're like the yeah, I didn'tknow how to edit podcasts, no,
(05:15):
so the first piece of advice ifsomeone wants to start their own
podcast, build your portfoliobefore you start releasing Like
record like six or sevenepisodes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You're you start releasing like record like six
or seven episodes.
Yeah, you're gonna learn likehow to, how it feels, how to
talk on a microphone.
Uh, you're gonna learn a lotabout yourself too, and you
might even change the wholepodcast by the fifth episode.
Anyway, say, your podcast isabout like um, collecting
buttons or some shit like that.
You're gonna burn yourself outafter like 10 episodes and it's
gonna change and it's okay if itchanged.
My podcast is restructuredseveral times this three years.
(05:45):
On top of that, I do payattention to other people's
podcasts, like who I listen toprofessionally Mostly the folks
on the camera angles, how theytalk, how the structures, how to
make clips.
We're still learning about thatstuff now and we've not to say
we're pros at it, but we'redefinitely better than the
average person.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We're pros.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Nah, just kidding.
Definitely better than theaverage person pros.
No, yeah, um, and meetingpeople here.
Well, we're from indiana, likechicago area, indiana and um,
there's no other podcasters thatwe know around us there's
really there's not podcasters.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There's very, very limited content creators where
we're from um, so it's hard toto meet other creative minds, to
kind of bounce ideas off ofeach other I know I mentioned
chicago, but I mean talk aboutindiana.
There's not really a lot ofcreators, no, and even then we
don't, even though we're inchicago, often we don't really
connect with chicago creators wedon't really network out there,
(06:38):
no no, which I feel like weshould start networking out
there because we're so close toit.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We're going to now.
But I mean, what I'm getting atis there's not a lot of
creative people out there, sowe're bouncing off each other
all the time we work together.
I mean, very little are wetalking about work.
We're bouncing ideas off eachother.
So it's good to have thatperson there.
But down here in Orlando,florida, there's nothing but
creative.
Everyone here has their ownpodcast.
They have a great advice and itjust puts us in a more creative
(07:06):
mood.
We got great ideas for apodcast we've been filling hella
content down here.
Um, it's, it's amazing to belike it's.
The greatest advice you cangive yourself is like surround
yourself by people who you wantto you know, improve you.
Yes, I love that so we came downhere for a pod fest and like we
got down here around Wednesdaymorning or noon-ish and we went
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early to orientation stuff likethat orientation and we learned
about what the podcast is goingto get like, what to expect and
what the biggest thing we'redoing is networking between
these classes.
Because that's all thisconvention is You're signing up
for, like it's not classes, butit's like TED Talks almost we're
listening to.
Convention is you're signing upfor?
like it's not classes, but it'slike, uh, ted talks almost we're
listening to, yeah, but, uh, inbetween them there's like 15,
20 minutes or sometimes longerfor lunch or at the end of the
(07:50):
day there's always a party, likeafter party.
We meet at the bar and, um, wemet the first night.
We met this incredible womannamed shirley.
She has her own podcast company.
She's a social media influencerum, she gave us great advice
about, specifically, our camerarolls like my camera rolls,
because I use iphones to recordmy stuff and she gave me some
great advice about framing andlighting and stuff like that.
(08:10):
Set up studios and, um, I wasexcited to learn from her.
She was actually a speaker.
We didn't know this.
She was actually a speaker atthe convention today right, yeah
, we got like a little prequeland uh, she got to give and we
talked about I'm an introvert,my social battery was dead at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No, yeah, it really was.
Because you're not used to Idon't talk to anybody.
I can't imagine how much energyit takes to talk to you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
like for someone who's not used to doing that
stuff yeah, and I mean thispodcast has helped my confidence
tremendously.
Tell me be an extrovert.
Yeah, not, I'm not saying I'man extrovert, but like it's
easier a little bit for me totalk about.
I mean, we have a given herelike starting points off like
hey, where you from?
What's your podcast about?
yeah, that's our pick up linethat's, yeah, that's our pick up
line that's what we came withthe goal, like with doing the
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first night, how we met shirleyyou, you were so smooth with it
because we were at the bargetting drinks and we noticed
her like sitting next to us andshe was looking at the menu.
So you guys like, oh, what areyou drinking?
And then that led to aconversation that's like like an
hour and a half and, uh, we gotgreat tips from her and stuff
like that.
My approach is so different.
(09:25):
The next day we go to this TEDTalk and she goes.
I noticed this girl sitting inclass.
I thought she was cute, shelooked cool.
She's younger We'll talk aboutyounger in a second but she
looks that's not bad.
She was younger, like our ageage.
She's our age, she was our age.
(09:45):
So we, you know, the classended, we went me and you went
to go get lunch or somethinglike that or walk around, and we
ran into her later and I waslike hey, you were, you were in
that class a couple, like likean hour ago.
Right, she was yeah.
Yeah, that class sucked, right.
That was my approach I was likethat was his approach, just
immediately talking shit.
And she was like, yeah, you'reright, that did kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think she was caught off guard bro.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
She was.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You just went up to her and you were like were you
in that class?
Excuse me, were you in thatclass?
She was like yeah, yeah, I washe's like that just sucked.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
She ended up being rest of the day and we're
supposed to meet up with themsoon too yeah, very genuine.
She gave us a lot of goodadvice, yeah yeah, like how to
get more guests, like moreguests that suitable for a
podcast I totally forgot aboutthat, yeah and um, she taught us
some software they're going tobe testing out pretty soon.
Um, and then we met this otherguy too that we hung out.
We met him yet like the daybefore, but we ended up meeting
and hanging out with him a lottoday.
Yeah and uh, we met so many newcool people, so many.
(10:41):
One of the first people we met,the very first guy we met here
at this podcast we just got tothe convention, we're taking
pictures and everything likethat and this guy started coming
up to us.
I don't know if we talked tohim first or he came up to us.
It was like a little in between.
Yeah, he noticed we were takingpictures and he was talking
about what we were takingpictures with and he ended up
being very odd.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
it was like it was a bad preview for the whole yeah,
we were like, if people aregoing to be like this, the rest
of the fest.
Yeah, we don't know if we wantto be here because you were like
oh, where you from?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
and this guy acted like it was a trick question
yeah, he was like um, he'slooking around like where am I
from, kentucky?
yeah, I'm from kentucky.
I was like, okay, and then he'slike, he started trying to give
us his backstory.
Yeah, like I almost killed myparents or something like that.
I was like what the fuck isgoing on.
So we immediately got out ofthere.
I was like, all right, man,we'll see you around, peace out.
(11:32):
And then we met this other guynamed julio who was like, who
was not even a podcaster, but hehas like his.
He was there for the event,like he was yeah, he was working
the event it.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
He gave us some advice about AI, and then we met
the most interesting man in theworld.
One of the most interestingpeople in the world.
Unintentionally, it was thisguy named Wally.
I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Shout out, Wally.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
We'll tag him, but he's a pro athlete for ping pong
.
He goes around the country.
He has come from an incrediblebackstory between drugs and
violence and, you know, abusivehome.
He flipped it around.
He's a big influencer.
He's been on big podcasts.
He's been on many podcasts.
He even said, like he doesn'thave a podcast of his own, he's
probably been interviewed byalmost everyone there.
(12:14):
Yeah, he's been interviewed bya lot of people.
He said like two over 230 lastyear alone.
That's insane because he has acrazy story.
I mean, if you get on for onepodcast and he tells you a story
, he has like 90 more storiesthat you probably don't even
know about yeah, like if youwatch him on one episode and you
watch him on another one, it'sa completely different story and
it's still really really goodand he's talking about like he's
writing a book soon, because hetold us about a time like he
(12:36):
went to go play pro athlete innorth korea, that's, and he was
trying to meet kim Jong-un thereand he was going to go back.
He got invited back because hesaid he was trying to be the
next Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He kind of looks like Dennis Rodman with the crazy
hair.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, he was going to go back, but that was like 2016
when Trump was getting elected.
Yeah, and he was saying, likeTrump's coming out, like we're
going to bomb them and all thiscrap, and I'm like I ain't going
over there now Like they'regoing to take over shit Right.
But he's very, very cool.
We met him the next day.
We got great advice from himabout social media.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, very cool guy.
I'm glad we met him.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And I'm trying to see who else we met my mind to it.
I could learn on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But we're getting the advice from networking.
So some of these speakers arevery cool.
Some of them are yeah, some ofthem are very cool.
There's a lot that aren't, butthe ones that aren't are kind of
using.
This time it's like a half hourto 45 minutes each.
They're trying to make it liketheir stand-up routine, almost.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, it stand-up routine and I feel like it's
also like kind of like a way topromote themselves.
I feel like they're trying.
They're like because, like Isaid out here, it's they're just
trying to promote themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I feel like yeah, one specifically was that?
Um that when I talked aboutthat sucked the class inside
cowboy girl yeah, she wasteaching a class like, um, how
to be, how to be a betterstoryteller, something like that
she should work on herself Ijudge this girl immediately
we're talking all this shit andthen people are gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We're like they're not invited to podfest next year
.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, they're gonna be banned.
But she wore like a black tightdress with like a hot pink
cowgirl jacket.
I guess she has like tasselsand everything underneath her
arms and everything like thatand hopping cowgirl boots we're
in orlando, florida, like thisis not nashville or texas or
anything like what are we doinghere?
I guarantee you she had acowgirl hat probably oh, I 100,
she probably did, and she wasdefinitely a pick me girl.
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So she's giving us a story howto be a better storyteller.
She hands out worksheets andall it says in there like who,
what, when, where and why.
Who who's in the story, why,why, why.
What did you learn from this?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
when did it happen?
I?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
was like this is stuff we learned in second grade
, like what are we doing here?
I thought you'd give me advicelike how to structure it, like
how to add details a little bitI wasn't a fan of that panel at
all no, her rise to fame for herpodcasting career and how she
got invited here.
She had one story she getsmostly.
She goes go on a podcast, tellyour story.
Even if you don't have a story,you do have a story.
It could be anything and shegoes.
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My story is one day like I, Iit was like a failed marriage
proposal, something like that.
So she went on a trip byherself to ireland and she got
drunk and she got a dick tattooon her.
That was her whole story andshe probably and this this panel
was 30 minutes long and thetime that finished she probably
and this this panel is 30minutes long and the time that
finished she probably mentionedthis dick tattoo at least 55
(15:28):
times let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
So she also.
She wrote a book and I forgot Ithink the book was called why
you should read this.
No, it should be like open me orsomething like that open this
book or some shit like that, andthen under it was little
letters.
I thought that this it wasgonna say the time I got a penis
tattoo.
I thought it was gonna say that, but it didn't say it was a
whole personality.
It was going to say the time Igot a penis tattoo.
I thought it was going to saythat, but it didn't say that it
was a whole personality.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was a whole personality.
It was so distracting from theactual course I was like I don't
even want to do this anymorethat kind of gave me one-hit
wonder vibes or TikTok viralvibes.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
On TikTok we got a lot of advice, but the advice
that we didn't take is peoplewere like, if this works, keep
doing that.
And I was like I'd like that,but to a certain extent so, like
if that girl, like if the penisjoke made her famous, she's
like I'm gonna keep bringing itup, like no, it's only gonna
last you so long.
I feel like I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Any story can be interesting, though, depending
on how you tell it like wally'sdo.
You got an interesting storyeven if you just make up one do
do?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I have an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, um, I thought I'll put you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean I don't know if this is interesting.
I thought this is interesting.
So I'm a big.
I'm a big science guy.
I believe in science, you know.
So originally I was supposed togo to to la and I was gonna go
do some networking out there andlearn more about video content,
but instead this opportunitycame up to come to pod fest, and
for free.
So I was like you know what,I'm gonna forget about la and
(16:49):
I'm gonna go to orlando.
And then I start watching thenews and la is on fire I'm, like
yo I was supposed to be in la.
So I'm dude.
Imagine if I'm out there overhere like trying to leave.
Like sorry, you can't leave sir.
I think that's a cool story.
Is that cool, yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
yeah, it's cool I guess put it on the spot, all
right I ever tell you about thetime I accidentally sneezed in
chinese woman's mouth.
Are you being?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
serious right now.
This is a story.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
This is a story this is like pre-covid, so it's okay.
So it was in chicago.
It was in chicago like it waslike right after high school.
I think there's a bunch of usto get like in front of the bean
, you know, just hanging out,you know, like the train
station's like right thereunderneath, yeah.
So I was like me and this oneother person I'm like I'm gonna
go um we're gonna go get dunkinfor everybody, you know, get
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some donuts and coffee, becauseearlier in the day.
So we went down there and likewe're in line ordering and we
get our stuff, and I have twocoffees in my hand and like a
box of donuts in my arms and Ihad a sneeze.
I had a sneeze and I didn'twant to sneeze in front of the
person in front of me and Ididn't want to sneeze in front
of my friend.
It was one of those big ones,like you know you, and there was
(18:04):
like a chinese woman with hermouth wide open.
I was like, all right, I'm.
She was so stunned like, oh my,I'm sorry, like I was, like she
was like I think I'm gonna getsick now.
I was like I think you arereally um, she can I, can I buy
you a coffee?
It's like you think a coffee'sgonna make this better.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh my god, it was funny.
What when you said that?
Can I tell you a story aboutwhen I sneeze?
On a chinese woman's mouth.
I was like what?
When is this dude going to gowith this story?
That's crazy, bro.
I mean, if someone sneezed onme, bro, I'd be pissed.
Yeah, I'd be pissed.
How would you feel if someonesneezed on you?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Just how that woman feels I would be pissed.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I mean, it was obviously an accident, but yeah,
but yeah, don't let it happenagain, rob I could have taught
that panel better than that lady.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh, 100, we both can't, but we're both.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's one of the things you're gonna, you know,
one of your goals for next year,you said no, you too, bro.
I want you to be a speaker atpodfest oh, apparently anybody
could be a speaker at thesethings and after hearing some of
these people talk, it's prettyobvious.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think you just need to you just need to upload your
presentation, but I think thatI want to be a speaker for
PodFest and I definitely thinkyou can too.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, what would your class be about?
Because you can pick any topicyou want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
My class would be about social media showing your
personality on there and thenjust content creating and then
how to connect with yourfollowers.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's one of the biggest things.
I'm kind of mad that it's not aconvention like teaching about
social media, because there arethings out there who almost say
disregard social media.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, yeah, because, like I said, it's a lot older
traditional podcasting.
But my class would definitelybe about that, because I think
that one they're teaching us alot about growing your podcast
and the way that they talk aboutit is kind of like rebranding
or kind of like justsponsorships and putting posters
and flyers in your bakery andstuff like that.
(19:52):
It's like the first thing isthis, bro, this is this.
Is what I think at least.
The first step about growingyour audience is that your
audience has to like you andyour audience has to know who
you are.
So if you're just posting newepisode, this new episode, that
new episode, this new episode,that they're going to get tired
of that, First of all, which iswhat I've been doing the first
two years of my doing thispodcast.
(20:12):
They want to see you at themovies.
They want to see you eating thepopcorn.
They want to see you.
You know what I'm saying.
They want to see you.
They want to see you.
They want to see who they'relistening to.
I know that's kind ofcontroversial because it's a
podcast, but they want to seewho they're listening to and how
they do it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, one of the things you gave me is like I
like shooting behind the scenesstuff.
I think that's very cool.
I love seeing the process.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, no, I love that .
We've been doing a lot of thatout here.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Do better we could do .
I mean, we're just caught uplike we're excited.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's what it is really and it does feel like
we've been here for longer thanwe have.
We still have all of today, allof tomorrow and all of sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We still have three full days technically yeah yeah
and the reason we're filming soearly is because, like, well,
one, we have time to edit andyou know like we're filming this
in a great location and we wantthe sunlight and everything
like that.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know why I love this, bro?
It reminds me of the Bad Bunnyalbum.
Bad Bunny album, yeah.
This whole little setup, yeah,I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I love the Bad Bunny album.
Well, I like the five songs offof there Movie news real quick.
You excited for him on HappyGilmore 2?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Him on Happy Gilmore 2?
I don't like Bad Bunny.
So I don't like Bad Bunny sohis like smaller roles.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He was in a brad pitt movie, for god's sake, yeah, no
, I'm not the biggest bad bunnyfan I'm.
I like adam sandler, though, soI'll watch it for him, and then
, once I see bad bunny, I'llskip it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You haven't even seen happy gilmore, right though?
No, I've never seen happy, sowhenever he has me on his show,
I'm like dude, like I'll watchthe movie.
But then he references othermovies and I was like yeah, I've
never seen it right, I've seen.
I've seen a good amount ofmovies, but not as many as you.
I can't compare 250 to.
I don't even know how manymovies I've seen this year yeah,
because I talked about in yourreview.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I did 250 movies.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've probably, maybe, seen less than 10 movies this
year I mean this from thebeginning of the this year.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I've probably seen like less than 10 how many
movies?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean, it's only january 10th.
Yeah, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean like it's kind of wild as long as I haven't
gone in the theater like thelast movie seen in theaters was.
A better man not now on acomplete unknown and that was
like like december.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I've seen that have you ever done the math to see
how many movies you've seen fromthis Seat's Taken day one to
today?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I have it written down somewhere Because I use
Letterboxd now.
I started using Letterboxdheavy last year.
The first two years.
I was just keeping track of myown, so I just got to add them
all.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So how many episodes do you have of this Seat's Taken
?
Over 150 now, so 150, and thenmost of them are two movies,
probably like 50 good ones butevery episode is almost almost
every episode is about twomovies, so that's 300.
No, you've definitely seen.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Well, the first like 50 episodes.
I've been having people dothree movies.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh, that was hella a lot you're at like, you're
definitely like 500 movies forsure easily for the whole park
damn bro, I never knew there was500 movies out there.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of these.
I always get asked the questionlike what's my some of my
favorite movies?
That's like the hardestquestion for me.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It all depends on my mood and no, yeah, I think when
you ask someone what's yourfavorite movie, what's your
favorite song, I even havetrouble answering who's your
favorite artist yeah and I thinkit's because mine's post.
Everyone knows that.
Yeah, but was he your favoriteartist three years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
probably okay I've been a diet fan.
What about five?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
years ago he was up there.
Yeah, but I think that a lot ofit has to do with just your
emotions and how you're feeling.
And that's what movies you know, because I mean my, one of my
favorite.
I can answer my favorite movie,and the reason why I can answer
is because to me it means somuch.
It's a high school musicalthree.
Yeah, that's my favorite movieof all time and it's about how
you feel.
It's not about the quality ofthe movie Exactly, it's about
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how it feels and how it makes mefeel, because to me, high
School Musical 3, it's atimeless piece for me and I kind
of relate to it a lot.
With Troy Bolton we're breakingfree Soul bread Fly Good, I
clipped that shit.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That was good.
That's a karaoke song.
Oh, we didn't go to karaokeyesterday.
That would have been hilariousif you did.
Uh, yeah, there's so many coolevents.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
At things like this karaoke, there's a stand-up
night, like a stand-up comedynight, um.
One thing that I really likedum, this might be nerd talk for,
for for you guys listening isthe way that we upload our
episodes is through adistributor and we distribute
through buzzsprout shout, shoutout buzz sprout.
Buzz sprout is who hosts ourepisodes and they send them out.
Um, I thought it was cool tomeet buzz sprout.
Yes, that was amazing, becausebuzz sprout is what makes our
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episodes possible.
It's what um sends them out,like I said, to spotify into
apple.
So us meeting them.
Not only that, if you showedthem your stats, they rewarded
you.
So what kind of rewards did you?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I got a lot of swag from them.
Like they give you cool, likeuh pins, congratulate.
Like I had three years.
So they gave me like athree-year pin.
Um, over 5 000 episodesdownload, over 5 000 downloads.
They gave me a pin for that.
And um, it was like over 500episodes, something like that
they gave me.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That too, that's awesome 150 episodes that's
awesome.
I love that.
I think that's cool because itmakes you the little pins like.
It makes you feel good aboutyour accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
We're meeting other people besides like like there's
company shirt who make thesemicrophones that I really want
like headphones to help youimprove your podcast.
You know we learned about likeum like, like not the sound
board, but like a video boardyeah, to help us editing and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
We're learning so much out here you need a lot of
money to buy all those thingsyou.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, we've been doing it on a budget.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You could definitely make it possible I think it's
one thing that I learned that Iliked a lot was that I've heard
a couple people talking aboutmonthly budgets for their
podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I think that's cool, because I just hit buy,
yeah, yeah yeah, I mean,eventually I would like to do
this like making an like an llckind of business stuff like that
yeah, we definitely gotta learna lot about that.
I mean, I would like to makemerch like.
I don't think people were likethis.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He's taking t-shirts yet I got some uh tips I can
give you.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You want to do it off camera or on camera let's do it
on camera, okay, I'll do thatlater, it's okay, okay, so tips
about merch, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So what I think that you should do is this this
strategy works very wellactually Make shirts for you and
start off with that, make acool shirt for you yeah.
And then when people see it,they're like I like that, oh,
I'll make you one next time Imake them.
So then the first time you justmake some for you, then the
second time you make some forwhoever liked it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, I thought about doing like just giving it to
guests or the guests too.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That's another one, and then you could start selling
it later but first make it likeexclusive.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I think that strategy works a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I also thought about selling popcorn buckets, but the
only I like that, but it's.
I think it'd be cool if youcould take them to the movie
theater.
But I mean that's cool, for youknow what I like that actually
it's at a home, because that'smovie night exactly because I
never watched movies, so I neverthought about that.
But I like the idea of you know, it's a winter night, it's cold
outside, let's watch a movie.
Hold up, mom.
Let me get my.
This seat's taken, bucket yeah,I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I like that.
Yeah, for those living withtheir mom still, yeah, that's us
.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, that is us.
I'm not ashamed though.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Um, I mean stickers is another big one too.
Like it's easy, like we met.
I met somebody here who sellsstickers stickers for your water
bottles but the thing is withthat she's selling for four
bucks a sticker I'd probablysell them for like eight dot,
not, I thought, something forlike a dollar or two, the most a
dollar I would say it's asticker.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's true, but you gotta make some profit, bro.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, you gotta make some profit, um, but I mean,
there's a whole businessstrategy I want to get into,
like you know, making thispodcast into.
It's interesting as fuck.
I started this podcast as ahobby, like something to put my
mental health towards, too, likeso I can focus on.
But now that I'm three yearsdeep, anyway, I want to flip it
a little bit, like okay, let'ssee if I can make some you know
profit off of this.
And like not that, like Ididn't remember my first comment
.
Someone like it was like twoyears ago on tiktok.
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Someone like oh, like I didn'tlike this.
I like this movie a lot, butthis guy makes pretty good
points.
I fucking fell in love withthat.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That made you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That was like influence it shows like okay,
what I say is having influenceup yeah, that's awesome, bro.
That made you feel that way tooI mean you were there when I
got recognized for the firsttime yeah, yeah, we were at a
byway, right byway, you know,and um, this guy just recognized
because of one of my guests,you know who reposted me.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He recognized me from that and that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No stuff like that.
It's always an amazing feelinghow?
Because you would never think.
And for podcasting it could behard because it's just your
voice, but that's why we do thewhole video thing.
But getting recognized itliterally it feels amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
What advice would you have for somebody who wants to
start their own podcast?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So this advice we got at PodFest and I think it's
good advice.
So the first thing is well,first, if you want to start a
podcast, make sure that it's atopic or a category that you're
really passionate about, so thatway you don't get tired of
doing it after a couple episodes, real quick.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
you know, what I'm kind of surprised about is how
many christian podcasts thereare out there yeah, there's a
lot out here, but it's like I'mshocked.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But I'm not shocked because I think florida is a
very christian uh statescientology yeah, scientology,
um, but yeah.
So make sure that you have a, atopic that that you really um,
that you really love, so that wedon't get tired of talking to
it.
And I didn't understand whatthey said this, but they said
that like upload or record morethan one episode, at least six.
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I thought they meant recordthem and upload them all at the
same time they did, really theydid.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I liked that idea.
I liked that idea a lot.
Because, like, okay, if Irecord an episode with, let's
just say, like a big celebritylike tom holland, yeah, you're
gonna be captivated.
And my podcast like oh, if,especially if it's good.
You know, like I want to seewhat else this guy got, and I
already got like five otherepisodes out there too, you can
check out too yeah versus tomholland.
Like okay, now I gotta waitanother week or two for the next
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episode to come out oh, I seewhat you're saying, though.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, um and then, but practice.
Because my big mistake that Idid is I started right away and
I had a lot of technicaldifficulties and you get
stressed out trying to fix them,but practice, record
pre-episodes, listen to them,practice the editing, the video
stuff.
So, yeah, my tips are that Finda category that you really like
(29:57):
, practice.
And another thing is work withwhat you got.
If you don't have cameras, usean iphone.
If you don't have an iphone,then just use audio for now.
You know, but practice is whatyou got.
Because my my big mistakes is Idon't consider it a mistake,
but I'm very impulsive, so Ikind of just hit by I do this, I
do that and you don't have todo that stuff right away,
(30:20):
because there's a lot ofpodcasters that we met and they
work with minimum.
A lot of them just use webcams,bro, like other laptops.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So, um, yeah, and then it looks good yeah, and ask
for help.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Ask for help too, don't just do it by yourself do
not be afraid to ask for advice.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean, even if it's me and fernando, like if you're
thinking about starting your ownpodcast, we are more than
willing, willing to give adviceon what we use and what we buy
and how to structure it.
If you want.
We can give you recommendationson a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It is great for the mental health.
Yeah, and, like I said, we'renot professionals, but we
definitely know what we're doingyeah, we know more than the
average person.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I would say, yeah, um , you know, just follow up with
that.
Like I didn't tell anybody Iwas starting a podcast when I
first started it, you justdropped it.
I dropped.
I told, like you, maybe liketwo other people, I was doing it
because, like I, I have a badhabit.
A lot of people have a badhabit doing this.
Like if you talk aboutsomething for so long, any like
if I just, like last second,decide not to do it, you know, I
feel like I let everyone downI'm, I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, I feel like I do that too, so that's why
sometimes I try not to sayanything.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, you said you were gonna go running this
morning too.
Hey, yo don't call me out likethat I did it yesterday, though
I did it yesterday so I mean itis great to follow through with
it, but before you release it,like we talk, record five or six
episodes.
The fifth episode he's like I'mnot really feeling that second
episode.
Like you can take it out, it'snot a big deal.
Yeah, I mean you can alwaysrestructure it a little bit too,
(31:39):
like you said.
Pick up a topic you'repassionate about.
I'm movies.
I love talking about movies, um, I mean what doesn't get bored
of.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
What if I want to?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
like talk about tv shows next, or what if I want to
talk about, uh, finance in mynext podcast, something like
that?
I did have two other podcaststoo that didn't work out, but,
um, I'm not ashamed of them.
I like I had fun.
If anything, they were learningexperiences.
A lot of this podcast is trialand error.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I forgot about that bro, the dolly show I had a
podcast called um the dollyparton podcast we got sued with
three other three other co-hosts, and we got a cease and desist.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That was our goal, and then we I had another
podcast with uh, our recurringguest, greg rosinski, called up
the awkward bartender's guide,which he's gonna come back with,
but he's rebranding that byhimself, though, so I'm gonna
help him out what was your rolein those two podcasts?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
so, right now, and this he's taking, you're the
host.
What was your role in the othertwo podcasts?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
so the other, the dolly part podcast, had four
hosts in general it was me GlennWell, I've been on my podcast
before too Glenn Brandon andBrandon Brogdon and Joey Rivera
I mean because I already had apodcast.
I was the one recordingeverything, editing everything.
You were the producer.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Pretty much I was the producer.
Basically you were the producerfor that.
One Put that title on your name, bro.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Producer Rob Brandon.
I was probably the most one whowas coming up with topics and
stuff like that, coming up withgames and stuff like that.
We were playing on there.
It was fun.
But once you get to the point,if you're thinking about
starting a podcast with aco-host, make sure you both are
putting in work, because itdrains that one person who's
doing all the work.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Even if you're not the one editing or pitching
everything.
Come up with ideas, come upwith a topic or something like
that.
Come up with something to showthat you actually care about it,
because that was the big thingabout that podcast.
And then the other one, theAgua Bartender's Guide.
I'm not a bartender.
He asked me to come on itbecause we had good chemistry
together, which we did.
You were the co-host on thatone.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I was the co-host but you were also the producer for
that one yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I've recorded everything and edited and
distributed and stuff like that.
I learned a lot from that too,because, like I, I, you know,
the sound levels in the firstcouple episodes weren't that
great, but, um, I'm grateful forthem.
I'm glad I did them, though Ihad a great time.
I'm still friends with allthose guys.
Um, they've been on thispodcast many, many times yeah,
um, you said you talked aboutco-hosts.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Sometimes I feel like , because my old podcast I had
two co-hosts and I kind of missthat, because it's like you can
bounce off of each other, soit's like the main host and then
the other co-host is like canask the other questions you know
what I'm saying, and it's, atthe end of the day, different
perspectives.
Yeah, different perspectives,and when you don't have a guest,
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it can be, uh, just just like aco-host and host episode, and I
do, I do miss that.
I do miss that because there'sa lot, like I said, there's a
lot of things that I want tostart.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I've noticed in my episodes that I want to start um
, fixing it is a lot harder forus, like we're finding guests
every single week.
So, like this week, I knew youwere coming on this week, so I'm
already working on like earlythis week I was already working
on the next guest and thenyou're constantly worrying about
them People back out in thelast minute.
It's frustrating, especiallyfor me, because my guests have
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to watch the movie we're talkingabout, so it is tricky.
But we did learn tips down hereon how to find better guests,
like because there's all likewebsite who people go on.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
They're wanting to be guest not only that, there's a,
a website that we learned about, on how to find guests from
like outside of your city, fromall across the country, and and
you forgot one point you getpaid for it you do.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I wasn't gonna share that secret, but yeah, oh
damn.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
No, we just we don't get paid.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We don't get paid for any of this, it's okay, but, um
, yeah, I mean that's definitelya way to meet new people
because, like, probably the same30 people do my podcast all the
time.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, let me ask you this, rob Um, I don't know how
much time we have left on yourpodcast and maybe not change,
but or upgrade, because upgradeI think is a better word than
change.
What do you want to upgrade forthis?
It's taken.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I want you guys to see me on YouTube.
I'm starting the.
I have a couple episodes likemaybe like less than 10 episodes
out there on YouTube, but Ineed to get back on there again
too, cause I want like to put aface to the mic.
Um, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, I don't have a face for tv but right now you
look dope as hell, bro, you lookdope.
Right now we're in florida wegot the cool outfits, the
sunnies.
You got the headphones on withthe mic.
You look, we look badass rightnow, bro check it out.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm excited that we're doing a lot of content
filming out there, like we'regonna be posting a lot of behind
the scenes from our trip herein podfest, so definitely check
that out.
What's your instagram so peoplecan check?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
um, but also one more thing before I do that um, one
thing that I've learned out hereis that not that it doesn't
matter, but views and followersare not.
It's, it's not all about thatyeah and it's hard for me to
accept that sometimes, um, butwe've met a lot of people who
know so much and they're soknowledgeable no way more than
(36:30):
us and they don't have theydon't.
It's like they have, justregular followers.
They're not that many likes andyou know what I'm saying, so
it's not about that.
It's like they have justregular followers.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They're not that many likes, and you know what I'm
saying.
So it's not about that.
It's not about that.
I'm grateful for the ones whocome back.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
next episode yes, exactly Because, yeah, I love
that.
But yeah, you guys can check meout on Instagram at
FernandoXGimenez, and on LittleShy Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, and you come on weekly.
I was a guest on your podcastthe same day.
This is dropping too, so goahead and go and listen to his,
because we did talk about a lotmore stuff that we didn't talk
about here, about the pod festyeah uh, we didn't talk about
like how he fell in love withinlike two minutes um with a
celsius representative yeah, shewas really, she was beautiful
yeah, he shot a shot with herand um she was beautiful he's
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we're gonna go against here.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Talk to her today yep , I'm going to go get a pickup
at Asosias but yeah, I'm excitedfor this trip.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
We're still halfway through it.
Next week's going to be regularschedule programming, so sad no
not sad.
I'm excited for it's aboutWolfman coming out with.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Gregorzinski, oh, I'll name it Back to Work, back
to Work.
No, no, no about my podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Back to Regular Sched scheduled programming with
Wolfman, with Greg Rosinski.
It's supposed to come out thisweek but I had to push it back
for the PodFest.
But yeah, I'm excited to learnwatching the movies.
It's going to be a big year formovies in 2025.
I'm excited to get into it.
I talked about it in yourreview a little bit.
Big events coming.
My biggest goal is to go tomovie festivals a little bit and
networking with otherpodcasters.
Still, we have anothernetworking event we might go to
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in april in chicago.
So if you're in the chicagoarea and if you see us,
definitely come by and stop by.
We'll give you advice.
Like, even if you don't have apodcast, you can still go if
you're thinking about starting apodcast yeah, definitely
recommend it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, um, thank you, fernando, for coming on the
podcast thank you for having me,bro, bringing me on this trip
with you.
I mean, that's a big plus um.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Thank you for listening.
Stay tuned next week, whereI'll be saving you a seat.
Peace out.
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
sorry, this is taken sorry, thank you for tuning in.
This is taken where I'm, yourhost, rob miranda, coming to you
live from orlando, florida,hanging out with mickey mouse
here.
Big guest, big news.
I'm gonna tell you what I'mgonna be doing out here.
It's gonna be a good episode, alittle bit and um, to help me
for my guest today, we're notgonna be talking about movies,
we're gonna be talking about bigpicture stuff here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And to help me, I got uh, fernando jimenez what's up,
what's up, what's up, bro, I'mglad to be here with you you
were just on a couple episodesago, but we talked about a
couple movies.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're not gonna be doing movies today.
Instead, we're gonna explainwhat we're doing out here in
orlando, florida.
Um, we're also like recording.
For those of you listening, youcan probably hear some
background noise a little bit.
It's a little noisy out herebecause we're also recording
outside and, um, this beautifulsetup we got going on here yeah,
bro pool party and everythinggoing on exactly, exactly, um,
but we came out here in lando,florida.
We got here a couple days agoand what we're doing out here?
(00:57):
We're here for 2025's pod fest.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's awesome for those you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Pod fest is like a big convention for a bunch of
podcasters across the world whocome here just to network and
learning a lot more things about, to improve their podcast or
just share their experiences.
Um, we got here aroundwednesday we're only halfway
through it, like we're recordingthis midway and it's been
incredible.
So far it's been amazing.
It's been amazing and you knowwe I wasn't gonna come on this
(01:22):
trip originally.
It was kind of the spur of themoment kind of thing, because
you were going to come out here.
You got invited to come outhere for free and you were
excited about it and were you alittle bit nervous to come out
here by yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm going to be honest, I was excited that I was
going to come by myself.
I liked the idea of finallygoing on a vacation completely
by myself.
I thought that would have beenlike very, just kind of
different for me.
You know, it's very different.
It was gonna help me get out ofmy shell and all that stuff.
But when I, when I was able tocome with you, I was also really
(01:54):
excited because you know whatit's gonna make things easier.
I'm gonna be out here with afriend, so I'm excited that
you're here with me we talkedabout this a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm definitely an introvert, you're I would
definitely say an extrovert.
I mean, yeah, so that's a plusfor me coming out here.
So, um, you, you got invited tocome out here and then, um, I
really wasn't going to comebecause I had other priorities I
was going to do, but it endedup falling through and I you
know what you helped, you hookedme up, you, you emailed them to
(02:22):
see if you can give me a freeticket too.
As you know other, you let themknow I have my own podcast and
stuff like that too and theywere grateful enough to give me
a pass for free.
Um, so I only had to pay for myplane ticket.
My biggest goal this year wasto save more money.
The first week, I spent a tonof money on plane tickets.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's all good man, I think sometimes it's an
investment, it's an investment,it's an investment, bro, because
if you think about it's aninvestment, it's an investment.
It's an investment, bro,because if you think about it,
the money that you spent at homewe would have been doing the
same repetitive stuff, so it'sworth it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, the whole point of this podcast is come
here to learn new things.
We're going to get into videopodcasting very soon and that's
one of the biggest things welearned so far.
So, how this podcast works, wego to this convention.
There's several panelsthroughout the whole day, you
know.
You just pick and sign whichones you want to do, but in
between to them is really wherethe magic happens.
We're networking with otherpodcasters and it's for only
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podcasters who are just theyhaven't even started yet, or who
are like 300 episodes deep inyeah, and we're meeting all
kinds of different people andlearning experiences.
We met some very interestingpeople, like all the way from
like a nine-year-old podcasterto like um someone doing
podcasts about goats and alittle bit of everything, yeah
yeah, people missing legs, Iforgot about that.
(03:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun and we metlike the most interesting man in
the world literally yeah we'lltalk about a little bit as we go
along, but you know you're likealmost 10 episodes deep in your
pocket so far.
Yes, how are you even feelingabout the process?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
um, it's definitely been up and down, um, so this is
my second time doing little shy, like a little shy rebrand, and
I it does.
Even though you do more, I feellike it's still it's not.
It doesn get easier, but itdoesn't get more difficult.
I think I start to criticizemyself more, you know, because
the more, the more episodes thatI upload, I'm like you know
(04:12):
what, I don't know if I'm likingthat format, so I'm able to
change it as I go, you know.
So the first 10 episodes, Ithink they're going, they're
going well, but I'm starting tonotice some things that I do
want to change.
But it's just going to push meto keep going.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean, the whole podcasting is just trial and
error so far.
We're skipping a lot of stuffby coming to this convention, by
skipping a lot of stuff fromwhat we could have been doing
Because, like I said, videoediting is hard as fuck for us
it's really hard no-transcriptpodcast because I've been doing
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it.
I just hit my three years, likea week or two ago yeah you been
doing it for like two years,took a break and now you're
coming back, so we do definitelyhave the experience.
I mean, compared to my firstepisodes, like we talked about,
like the first 10 episodes, likeI didn't even know how to use
two microphones, yeah, it's hard.
We were switching, like handingthe microphone back off.
You're like the yeah, I didn'tknow how to edit podcasts, no,
(05:15):
so the first piece of advice ifsomeone wants to start their own
podcast, build your portfoliobefore you start releasing Like
record like six or sevenepisodes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You're you start releasing like record like six
or seven episodes.
Yeah, you're gonna learn likehow to, how it feels, how to
talk on a microphone.
Uh, you're gonna learn a lotabout yourself too, and you
might even change the wholepodcast by the fifth episode.
Anyway, say, your podcast isabout like um, collecting
buttons or some shit like that.
You're gonna burn yourself outafter like 10 episodes and it's
gonna change and it's okay if itchanged.
My podcast is restructuredseveral times this three years.
(05:45):
On top of that, I do payattention to other people's
podcasts, like who I listen toprofessionally Mostly the folks
on the camera angles, how theytalk, how the structures, how to
make clips.
We're still learning about thatstuff now and we've not to say
we're pros at it, but we'redefinitely better than the
average person.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We're pros.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Nah, just kidding.
Definitely better than theaverage person pros.
No, yeah, um, and meetingpeople here.
Well, we're from indiana, likechicago area, indiana and um,
there's no other podcasters thatwe know around us there's
really there's not podcasters.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There's very, very limited content creators where
we're from um, so it's hard toto meet other creative minds, to
kind of bounce ideas off ofeach other I know I mentioned
chicago, but I mean talk aboutindiana.
There's not really a lot ofcreators, no, and even then we
don't, even though we're inchicago, often we don't really
connect with chicago creators wedon't really network out there,
(06:38):
no no, which I feel like weshould start networking out
there because we're so close toit.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We're going to now.
But I mean, what I'm getting atis there's not a lot of
creative people out there, sowe're bouncing off each other
all the time we work together.
I mean, very little are wetalking about work.
We're bouncing ideas off eachother.
So it's good to have thatperson there.
But down here in Orlando,florida, there's nothing but
creative.
Everyone here has their ownpodcast.
They have a great advice and itjust puts us in a more creative
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mood.
We got great ideas for apodcast we've been filling hella
content down here.
Um, it's, it's amazing to belike it's.
The greatest advice you cangive yourself is like surround
yourself by people who you wantto you know, improve you.
Yes, I love that so we came downhere for a pod fest and like we
got down here around Wednesdaymorning or noon-ish and we went
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early to orientation stuff likethat orientation and we learned
about what the podcast is goingto get like, what to expect and
what the biggest thing we'redoing is networking between
these classes.
Because that's all thisconvention is You're signing up
for, like it's not classes, butit's like TED Talks almost we're
listening to.
Convention is you're signing upfor?
like it's not classes, but it'slike, uh, ted talks almost we're
listening to, yeah, but, uh, inbetween them there's like 15,
20 minutes or sometimes longerfor lunch or at the end of the
(07:50):
day there's always a party, likeafter party.
We meet at the bar and, um, wemet the first night.
We met this incredible womannamed shirley.
She has her own podcast company.
She's a social media influencerum, she gave us great advice
about, specifically, our camerarolls like my camera rolls,
because I use iphones to recordmy stuff and she gave me some
great advice about framing andlighting and stuff like that.
(08:10):
Set up studios and, um, I wasexcited to learn from her.
She was actually a speaker.
We didn't know this.
She was actually a speaker atthe convention today right, yeah
, we got like a little prequeland uh, she got to give and we
talked about I'm an introvert,my social battery was dead at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No, yeah, it really was.
Because you're not used to Idon't talk to anybody.
I can't imagine how much energyit takes to talk to you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
like for someone who's not used to doing that
stuff yeah, and I mean thispodcast has helped my confidence
tremendously.
Tell me be an extrovert.
Yeah, not, I'm not saying I'man extrovert, but like it's
easier a little bit for me totalk about.
I mean, we have a given herelike starting points off like
hey, where you from?
What's your podcast about?
yeah, that's our pick up linethat's, yeah, that's our pick up
line that's what we came withthe goal, like with doing the
(09:03):
first night, how we met shirleyyou, you were so smooth with it
because we were at the bargetting drinks and we noticed
her like sitting next to us andshe was looking at the menu.
So you guys like, oh, what areyou drinking?
And then that led to aconversation that's like like an
hour and a half and, uh, we gotgreat tips from her and stuff
like that.
My approach is so different.
(09:25):
The next day we go to this TEDTalk and she goes.
I noticed this girl sitting inclass.
I thought she was cute, shelooked cool.
She's younger We'll talk aboutyounger in a second but she
looks that's not bad.
She was younger, like our ageage.
She's our age, she was our age.
(09:45):
So we, you know, the classended, we went me and you went
to go get lunch or somethinglike that or walk around, and we
ran into her later and I waslike hey, you were, you were in
that class a couple, like likean hour ago.
Right, she was yeah.
Yeah, that class sucked, right.
That was my approach I was likethat was his approach, just
immediately talking shit.
And she was like, yeah, you'reright, that did kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think she was caught off guard bro.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
She was.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You just went up to her and you were like were you
in that class?
Excuse me, were you in thatclass?
She was like yeah, yeah, I washe's like that just sucked.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
She ended up being rest of the day and we're
supposed to meet up with themsoon too yeah, very genuine.
She gave us a lot of goodadvice, yeah yeah, like how to
get more guests, like moreguests that suitable for a
podcast I totally forgot aboutthat, yeah and um, she taught us
some software they're going tobe testing out pretty soon.
Um, and then we met this otherguy too that we hung out.
We met him yet like the daybefore, but we ended up meeting
and hanging out with him a lottoday.
Yeah and uh, we met so many newcool people, so many.
(10:41):
One of the first people we met,the very first guy we met here
at this podcast we just got tothe convention, we're taking
pictures and everything likethat and this guy started coming
up to us.
I don't know if we talked tohim first or he came up to us.
It was like a little in between.
Yeah, he noticed we were takingpictures and he was talking
about what we were takingpictures with and he ended up
being very odd.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
it was like it was a bad preview for the whole yeah,
we were like, if people aregoing to be like this, the rest
of the fest.
Yeah, we don't know if we wantto be here because you were like
oh, where you from?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
and this guy acted like it was a trick question
yeah, he was like um, he'slooking around like where am I
from, kentucky?
yeah, I'm from kentucky.
I was like, okay, and then he'slike, he started trying to give
us his backstory.
Yeah, like I almost killed myparents or something like that.
I was like what the fuck isgoing on.
So we immediately got out ofthere.
I was like, all right, man,we'll see you around, peace out.
(11:32):
And then we met this other guynamed julio who was like, who
was not even a podcaster, but hehas like his.
He was there for the event,like he was yeah, he was working
the event it.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
He gave us some advice about AI, and then we met
the most interesting man in theworld.
One of the most interestingpeople in the world.
Unintentionally, it was thisguy named Wally.
I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Shout out, Wally.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
We'll tag him, but he's a pro athlete for ping pong
.
He goes around the country.
He has come from an incrediblebackstory between drugs and
violence and, you know, abusivehome.
He flipped it around.
He's a big influencer.
He's been on big podcasts.
He's been on many podcasts.
He even said, like he doesn'thave a podcast of his own, he's
probably been interviewed byalmost everyone there.
(12:14):
Yeah, he's been interviewed bya lot of people.
He said like two over 230 lastyear alone.
That's insane because he has acrazy story.
I mean, if you get on for onepodcast and he tells you a story
, he has like 90 more storiesthat you probably don't even
know about yeah, like if youwatch him on one episode and you
watch him on another one, it'sa completely different story and
it's still really really goodand he's talking about like he's
writing a book soon, because hetold us about a time like he
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went to go play pro athlete innorth korea, that's, and he was
trying to meet kim Jong-un thereand he was going to go back.
He got invited back because hesaid he was trying to be the
next Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He kind of looks like Dennis Rodman with the crazy
hair.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, he was going to go back, but that was like 2016
when Trump was getting elected.
Yeah, and he was saying, likeTrump's coming out, like we're
going to bomb them and all thiscrap, and I'm like I ain't going
over there now Like they'regoing to take over shit Right.
But he's very, very cool.
We met him the next day.
We got great advice from himabout social media.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, very cool guy.
I'm glad we met him.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And I'm trying to see who else we met my mind to it.
I could learn on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But we're getting the advice from networking.
So some of these speakers arevery cool.
Some of them are yeah, some ofthem are very cool.
There's a lot that aren't, butthe ones that aren't are kind of
using.
This time it's like a half hourto 45 minutes each.
They're trying to make it liketheir stand-up routine, almost.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, it stand-up routine and I feel like it's
also like kind of like a way topromote themselves.
I feel like they're trying.
They're like because, like Isaid out here, it's they're just
trying to promote themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I feel like yeah, one specifically was that?
Um that when I talked aboutthat sucked the class inside
cowboy girl yeah, she wasteaching a class like, um, how
to be, how to be a betterstoryteller, something like that
she should work on herself Ijudge this girl immediately
we're talking all this shit andthen people are gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We're like they're not invited to podfest next year
.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, they're gonna be banned.
But she wore like a black tightdress with like a hot pink
cowgirl jacket.
I guess she has like tasselsand everything underneath her
arms and everything like thatand hopping cowgirl boots we're
in orlando, florida, like thisis not nashville or texas or
anything like what are we doinghere?
I guarantee you she had acowgirl hat probably oh, I 100,
she probably did, and she wasdefinitely a pick me girl.
(14:30):
So she's giving us a story howto be a better storyteller.
She hands out worksheets andall it says in there like who,
what, when, where and why.
Who who's in the story, why,why, why.
What did you learn from this?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
when did it happen?
I?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
was like this is stuff we learned in second grade
, like what are we doing here?
I thought you'd give me advicelike how to structure it, like
how to add details a little bitI wasn't a fan of that panel at
all no, her rise to fame for herpodcasting career and how she
got invited here.
She had one story she getsmostly.
She goes go on a podcast, tellyour story.
Even if you don't have a story,you do have a story.
It could be anything and shegoes.
(15:07):
My story is one day like I, Iit was like a failed marriage
proposal, something like that.
So she went on a trip byherself to ireland and she got
drunk and she got a dick tattooon her.
That was her whole story andshe probably and this this panel
was 30 minutes long and thetime that finished she probably
and this this panel is 30minutes long and the time that
finished she probably mentionedthis dick tattoo at least 55
(15:28):
times let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
So she also.
She wrote a book and I forgot Ithink the book was called why
you should read this.
No, it should be like open me orsomething like that open this
book or some shit like that, andthen under it was little
letters.
I thought that this it wasgonna say the time I got a penis
tattoo.
I thought it was gonna say that, but it didn't say it was a
whole personality.
It was going to say the time Igot a penis tattoo.
I thought it was going to saythat, but it didn't say that it
was a whole personality.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was a whole personality.
It was so distracting from theactual course I was like I don't
even want to do this anymorethat kind of gave me one-hit
wonder vibes or TikTok viralvibes.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
On TikTok we got a lot of advice, but the advice
that we didn't take is peoplewere like, if this works, keep
doing that.
And I was like I'd like that,but to a certain extent so, like
if that girl, like if the penisjoke made her famous, she's
like I'm gonna keep bringing itup, like no, it's only gonna
last you so long.
I feel like I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Any story can be interesting, though, depending
on how you tell it like wally'sdo.
You got an interesting storyeven if you just make up one do
do?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I have an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, um, I thought I'll put you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean I don't know if this is interesting.
I thought this is interesting.
So I'm a big.
I'm a big science guy.
I believe in science, you know.
So originally I was supposed togo to to la and I was gonna go
do some networking out there andlearn more about video content,
but instead this opportunitycame up to come to pod fest, and
for free.
So I was like you know what,I'm gonna forget about la and
(16:49):
I'm gonna go to orlando.
And then I start watching thenews and la is on fire I'm, like
yo I was supposed to be in la.
So I'm dude.
Imagine if I'm out there overhere like trying to leave.
Like sorry, you can't leave sir.
I think that's a cool story.
Is that cool, yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
yeah, it's cool I guess put it on the spot, all
right I ever tell you about thetime I accidentally sneezed in
chinese woman's mouth.
Are you being?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
serious right now.
This is a story.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
This is a story this is like pre-covid, so it's okay.
So it was in chicago.
It was in chicago like it waslike right after high school.
I think there's a bunch of usto get like in front of the bean
, you know, just hanging out,you know, like the train
station's like right thereunderneath, yeah.
So I was like me and this oneother person I'm like I'm gonna
go um we're gonna go get dunkinfor everybody, you know, get
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some donuts and coffee, becauseearlier in the day.
So we went down there and likewe're in line ordering and we
get our stuff, and I have twocoffees in my hand and like a
box of donuts in my arms and Ihad a sneeze.
I had a sneeze and I didn'twant to sneeze in front of the
person in front of me and Ididn't want to sneeze in front
of my friend.
It was one of those big ones,like you know you, and there was
(18:04):
like a chinese woman with hermouth wide open.
I was like, all right, I'm.
She was so stunned like, oh my,I'm sorry, like I was, like she
was like I think I'm gonna getsick now.
I was like I think you arereally um, she can I, can I buy
you a coffee?
It's like you think a coffee'sgonna make this better.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh my god, it was funny.
What when you said that?
Can I tell you a story aboutwhen I sneeze?
On a chinese woman's mouth.
I was like what?
When is this dude going to gowith this story?
That's crazy, bro.
I mean, if someone sneezed onme, bro, I'd be pissed.
Yeah, I'd be pissed.
How would you feel if someonesneezed on you?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Just how that woman feels I would be pissed.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I mean, it was obviously an accident, but yeah,
but yeah, don't let it happenagain, rob I could have taught
that panel better than that lady.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh, 100, we both can't, but we're both.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's one of the things you're gonna, you know,
one of your goals for next year,you said no, you too, bro.
I want you to be a speaker atpodfest oh, apparently anybody
could be a speaker at thesethings and after hearing some of
these people talk, it's prettyobvious.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think you just need to you just need to upload your
presentation, but I think thatI want to be a speaker for
PodFest and I definitely thinkyou can too.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, what would your class be about?
Because you can pick any topicyou want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
My class would be about social media showing your
personality on there and thenjust content creating and then
how to connect with yourfollowers.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's one of the biggest things.
I'm kind of mad that it's not aconvention like teaching about
social media, because there arethings out there who almost say
disregard social media.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, yeah, because, like I said, it's a lot older
traditional podcasting.
But my class would definitelybe about that, because I think
that one they're teaching us alot about growing your podcast
and the way that they talk aboutit is kind of like rebranding
or kind of like justsponsorships and putting posters
and flyers in your bakery andstuff like that.
(19:52):
It's like the first thing isthis, bro, this is this.
Is what I think at least.
The first step about growingyour audience is that your
audience has to like you andyour audience has to know who
you are.
So if you're just posting newepisode, this new episode, that
new episode, this new episode,that they're going to get tired
of that, First of all, which iswhat I've been doing the first
two years of my doing thispodcast.
(20:12):
They want to see you at themovies.
They want to see you eating thepopcorn.
They want to see you.
You know what I'm saying.
They want to see you.
They want to see you.
They want to see who they'relistening to.
I know that's kind ofcontroversial because it's a
podcast, but they want to seewho they're listening to and how
they do it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, one of the things you gave me is like I
like shooting behind the scenesstuff.
I think that's very cool.
I love seeing the process.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, no, I love that .
We've been doing a lot of thatout here.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Do better we could do .
I mean, we're just caught uplike we're excited.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's what it is really and it does feel like
we've been here for longer thanwe have.
We still have all of today, allof tomorrow and all of sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We still have three full days technically yeah yeah
and the reason we're filming soearly is because, like, well,
one, we have time to edit andyou know like we're filming this
in a great location and we wantthe sunlight and everything
like that.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know why I love this, bro?
It reminds me of the Bad Bunnyalbum.
Bad Bunny album, yeah.
This whole little setup, yeah,I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I love the Bad Bunny album.
Well, I like the five songs offof there Movie news real quick.
You excited for him on HappyGilmore 2?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Him on Happy Gilmore 2?
I don't like Bad Bunny.
So I don't like Bad Bunny sohis like smaller roles.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He was in a brad pitt movie, for god's sake, yeah, no
, I'm not the biggest bad bunnyfan I'm.
I like adam sandler, though, soI'll watch it for him, and then
, once I see bad bunny, I'llskip it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You haven't even seen happy gilmore, right though?
No, I've never seen happy, sowhenever he has me on his show,
I'm like dude, like I'll watchthe movie.
But then he references othermovies and I was like yeah, I've
never seen it right, I've seen.
I've seen a good amount ofmovies, but not as many as you.
I can't compare 250 to.
I don't even know how manymovies I've seen this year yeah,
because I talked about in yourreview.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I did 250 movies.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've probably, maybe, seen less than 10 movies this
year I mean this from thebeginning of the this year.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I've probably seen like less than 10 how many
movies?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean, it's only january 10th.
Yeah, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean like it's kind of wild as long as I haven't
gone in the theater like thelast movie seen in theaters was.
A better man not now on acomplete unknown and that was
like like december.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I've seen that have you ever done the math to see
how many movies you've seen fromthis Seat's Taken day one to
today?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I have it written down somewhere Because I use
Letterboxd now.
I started using Letterboxdheavy last year.
The first two years.
I was just keeping track of myown, so I just got to add them
all.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So how many episodes do you have of this Seat's Taken
?
Over 150 now, so 150, and thenmost of them are two movies,
probably like 50 good ones butevery episode is almost almost
every episode is about twomovies, so that's 300.
No, you've definitely seen.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Well, the first like 50 episodes.
I've been having people dothree movies.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh, that was hella a lot you're at like, you're
definitely like 500 movies forsure easily for the whole park
damn bro, I never knew there was500 movies out there.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of these.
I always get asked the questionlike what's my some of my
favorite movies?
That's like the hardestquestion for me.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It all depends on my mood and no, yeah, I think when
you ask someone what's yourfavorite movie, what's your
favorite song, I even havetrouble answering who's your
favorite artist yeah and I thinkit's because mine's post.
Everyone knows that.
Yeah, but was he your favoriteartist three years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
probably okay I've been a diet fan.
What about five?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
years ago he was up there.
Yeah, but I think that a lot ofit has to do with just your
emotions and how you're feeling.
And that's what movies you know, because I mean my, one of my
favorite.
I can answer my favorite movie,and the reason why I can answer
is because to me it means somuch.
It's a high school musicalthree.
Yeah, that's my favorite movieof all time and it's about how
you feel.
It's not about the quality ofthe movie Exactly, it's about
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how it feels and how it makes mefeel, because to me, high
School Musical 3, it's atimeless piece for me and I kind
of relate to it a lot.
With Troy Bolton we're breakingfree Soul bread Fly Good, I
clipped that shit.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That was good.
That's a karaoke song.
Oh, we didn't go to karaokeyesterday.
That would have been hilariousif you did.
Uh, yeah, there's so many coolevents.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
At things like this karaoke, there's a stand-up
night, like a stand-up comedynight, um.
One thing that I really likedum, this might be nerd talk for,
for for you guys listening isthe way that we upload our
episodes is through adistributor and we distribute
through buzzsprout shout, shoutout buzz sprout.
Buzz sprout is who hosts ourepisodes and they send them out.
Um, I thought it was cool tomeet buzz sprout.
Yes, that was amazing, becausebuzz sprout is what makes our
(24:30):
episodes possible.
It's what um sends them out,like I said, to spotify into
apple.
So us meeting them.
Not only that, if you showedthem your stats, they rewarded
you.
So what kind of rewards did you?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I got a lot of swag from them.
Like they give you cool, likeuh pins, congratulate.
Like I had three years.
So they gave me like athree-year pin.
Um, over 5 000 episodesdownload, over 5 000 downloads.
They gave me a pin for that.
And um, it was like over 500episodes, something like that
they gave me.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That too, that's awesome 150 episodes that's
awesome.
I love that.
I think that's cool because itmakes you the little pins like.
It makes you feel good aboutyour accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
We're meeting other people besides like like there's
company shirt who make thesemicrophones that I really want
like headphones to help youimprove your podcast.
You know we learned about likeum like, like not the sound
board, but like a video boardyeah, to help us editing and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
We're learning so much out here you need a lot of
money to buy all those thingsyou.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, we've been doing it on a budget.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You could definitely make it possible I think it's
one thing that I learned that Iliked a lot was that I've heard
a couple people talking aboutmonthly budgets for their
podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I think that's cool, because I just hit buy,
yeah, yeah yeah, I mean,eventually I would like to do
this like making an like an llckind of business stuff like that
yeah, we definitely gotta learna lot about that.
I mean, I would like to makemerch like.
I don't think people were likethis.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He's taking t-shirts yet I got some uh tips I can
give you.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You want to do it off camera or on camera let's do it
on camera, okay, I'll do thatlater, it's okay, okay, so tips
about merch, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So what I think that you should do is this this
strategy works very wellactually Make shirts for you and
start off with that, make acool shirt for you yeah.
And then when people see it,they're like I like that, oh,
I'll make you one next time Imake them.
So then the first time you justmake some for you, then the
second time you make some forwhoever liked it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, I thought about doing like just giving it to
guests or the guests too.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That's another one, and then you could start selling
it later but first make it likeexclusive.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I think that strategy works a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I also thought about selling popcorn buckets, but the
only I like that, but it's.
I think it'd be cool if youcould take them to the movie
theater.
But I mean that's cool, for youknow what I like that actually
it's at a home, because that'smovie night exactly because I
never watched movies, so I neverthought about that.
But I like the idea of you know, it's a winter night, it's cold
outside, let's watch a movie.
Hold up, mom.
Let me get my.
This seat's taken, bucket yeah,I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I like that.
Yeah, for those living withtheir mom still, yeah, that's us
.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, that is us.
I'm not ashamed though.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Um, I mean stickers is another big one too.
Like it's easy, like we met.
I met somebody here who sellsstickers stickers for your water
bottles but the thing is withthat she's selling for four
bucks a sticker I'd probablysell them for like eight dot,
not, I thought, something forlike a dollar or two, the most a
dollar I would say it's asticker.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's true, but you gotta make some profit, bro.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, you gotta make some profit, um, but I mean,
there's a whole businessstrategy I want to get into,
like you know, making thispodcast into.
It's interesting as fuck.
I started this podcast as ahobby, like something to put my
mental health towards, too, likeso I can focus on.
But now that I'm three yearsdeep, anyway, I want to flip it
a little bit, like okay, let'ssee if I can make some you know
profit off of this.
And like not that, like Ididn't remember my first comment
.
Someone like it was like twoyears ago on tiktok.
(27:35):
Someone like oh, like I didn'tlike this.
I like this movie a lot, butthis guy makes pretty good
points.
I fucking fell in love withthat.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That made you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That was like influence it shows like okay,
what I say is having influenceup yeah, that's awesome, bro.
That made you feel that way tooI mean you were there when I
got recognized for the firsttime yeah, yeah, we were at a
byway, right byway, you know,and um, this guy just recognized
because of one of my guests,you know who reposted me.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He recognized me from that and that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No stuff like that.
It's always an amazing feelinghow?
Because you would never think.
And for podcasting it could behard because it's just your
voice, but that's why we do thewhole video thing.
But getting recognized itliterally it feels amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
What advice would you have for somebody who wants to
start their own podcast?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So this advice we got at PodFest and I think it's
good advice.
So the first thing is well,first, if you want to start a
podcast, make sure that it's atopic or a category that you're
really passionate about, so thatway you don't get tired of
doing it after a couple episodes, real quick.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
you know, what I'm kind of surprised about is how
many christian podcasts thereare out there yeah, there's a
lot out here, but it's like I'mshocked.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But I'm not shocked because I think florida is a
very christian uh statescientology yeah, scientology,
um, but yeah.
So make sure that you have a, atopic that that you really um,
that you really love, so that wedon't get tired of talking to
it.
And I didn't understand whatthey said this, but they said
that like upload or record morethan one episode, at least six.
(29:06):
I thought they meant recordthem and upload them all at the
same time they did, really theydid.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I liked that idea.
I liked that idea a lot.
Because, like, okay, if Irecord an episode with, let's
just say, like a big celebritylike tom holland, yeah, you're
gonna be captivated.
And my podcast like oh, if,especially if it's good.
You know, like I want to seewhat else this guy got, and I
already got like five otherepisodes out there too, you can
check out too yeah versus tomholland.
Like okay, now I gotta waitanother week or two for the next
(29:33):
episode to come out oh, I seewhat you're saying, though.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, um and then, but practice.
Because my big mistake that Idid is I started right away and
I had a lot of technicaldifficulties and you get
stressed out trying to fix them,but practice, record
pre-episodes, listen to them,practice the editing, the video
stuff.
So, yeah, my tips are that Finda category that you really like
(29:57):
, practice.
And another thing is work withwhat you got.
If you don't have cameras, usean iphone.
If you don't have an iphone,then just use audio for now.
You know, but practice is whatyou got.
Because my my big mistakes is Idon't consider it a mistake,
but I'm very impulsive, so Ikind of just hit by I do this, I
do that and you don't have todo that stuff right away,
(30:20):
because there's a lot ofpodcasters that we met and they
work with minimum.
A lot of them just use webcams,bro, like other laptops.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So, um, yeah, and then it looks good yeah, and ask
for help.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Ask for help too, don't just do it by yourself do
not be afraid to ask for advice.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean, even if it's me and fernando, like if you're
thinking about starting your ownpodcast, we are more than
willing, willing to give adviceon what we use and what we buy
and how to structure it.
If you want.
We can give you recommendationson a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It is great for the mental health.
Yeah, and, like I said, we'renot professionals, but we
definitely know what we're doingyeah, we know more than the
average person.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I would say, yeah, um , you know, just follow up with
that.
Like I didn't tell anybody Iwas starting a podcast when I
first started it, you justdropped it.
I dropped.
I told, like you, maybe liketwo other people, I was doing it
because, like I, I have a badhabit.
A lot of people have a badhabit doing this.
Like if you talk aboutsomething for so long, any like
if I just, like last second,decide not to do it, you know, I
feel like I let everyone downI'm, I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, I feel like I do that too, so that's why
sometimes I try not to sayanything.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, you said you were gonna go running this
morning too.
Hey, yo don't call me out likethat I did it yesterday, though
I did it yesterday so I mean itis great to follow through with
it, but before you release it,like we talk, record five or six
episodes.
The fifth episode he's like I'mnot really feeling that second
episode.
Like you can take it out, it'snot a big deal.
Yeah, I mean you can alwaysrestructure it a little bit too,
(31:39):
like you said.
Pick up a topic you'repassionate about.
I'm movies.
I love talking about movies, um, I mean what doesn't get bored
of.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
What if I want to?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
like talk about tv shows next, or what if I want to
talk about, uh, finance in mynext podcast, something like
that?
I did have two other podcaststoo that didn't work out, but,
um, I'm not ashamed of them.
I like I had fun.
If anything, they were learningexperiences.
A lot of this podcast is trialand error.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I forgot about that bro, the dolly show I had a
podcast called um the dollyparton podcast we got sued with
three other three other co-hosts, and we got a cease and desist.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That was our goal, and then we I had another
podcast with uh, our recurringguest, greg rosinski, called up
the awkward bartender's guide,which he's gonna come back with,
but he's rebranding that byhimself, though, so I'm gonna
help him out what was your rolein those two podcasts?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
so, right now, and this he's taking, you're the
host.
What was your role in the othertwo podcasts?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
so the other, the dolly part podcast, had four
hosts in general it was me GlennWell, I've been on my podcast
before too Glenn Brandon andBrandon Brogdon and Joey Rivera
I mean because I already had apodcast.
I was the one recordingeverything, editing everything.
You were the producer.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Pretty much I was the producer.
Basically you were the producerfor that.
One Put that title on your name, bro.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Producer Rob Brandon.
I was probably the most one whowas coming up with topics and
stuff like that, coming up withgames and stuff like that.
We were playing on there.
It was fun.
But once you get to the point,if you're thinking about
starting a podcast with aco-host, make sure you both are
putting in work, because itdrains that one person who's
doing all the work.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Even if you're not the one editing or pitching
everything.
Come up with ideas, come upwith a topic or something like
that.
Come up with something to showthat you actually care about it,
because that was the big thingabout that podcast.
And then the other one, theAgua Bartender's Guide.
I'm not a bartender.
He asked me to come on itbecause we had good chemistry
together, which we did.
You were the co-host on thatone.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I was the co-host but you were also the producer for
that one yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I've recorded everything and edited and
distributed and stuff like that.
I learned a lot from that too,because, like I, I, you know,
the sound levels in the firstcouple episodes weren't that
great, but, um, I'm grateful forthem.
I'm glad I did them, though Ihad a great time.
I'm still friends with allthose guys.
Um, they've been on thispodcast many, many times yeah,
um, you said you talked aboutco-hosts.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Sometimes I feel like , because my old podcast I had
two co-hosts and I kind of missthat, because it's like you can
bounce off of each other, soit's like the main host and then
the other co-host is like canask the other questions you know
what I'm saying, and it's, atthe end of the day, different
perspectives.
Yeah, different perspectives,and when you don't have a guest,
(34:15):
it can be, uh, just just like aco-host and host episode, and I
do, I do miss that.
I do miss that because there'sa lot, like I said, there's a
lot of things that I want tostart.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I've noticed in my episodes that I want to start um
, fixing it is a lot harder forus, like we're finding guests
every single week.
So, like this week, I knew youwere coming on this week, so I'm
already working on like earlythis week I was already working
on the next guest and thenyou're constantly worrying about
them People back out in thelast minute.
It's frustrating, especiallyfor me, because my guests have
(34:47):
to watch the movie we're talkingabout, so it is tricky.
But we did learn tips down hereon how to find better guests,
like because there's all likewebsite who people go on.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
They're wanting to be guest not only that, there's a,
a website that we learned about, on how to find guests from
like outside of your city, fromall across the country, and and
you forgot one point you getpaid for it you do.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I wasn't gonna share that secret, but yeah, oh
damn.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
No, we just we don't get paid.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We don't get paid for any of this, it's okay, but, um
, yeah, I mean that's definitelya way to meet new people
because, like, probably the same30 people do my podcast all the
time.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, let me ask you this, rob Um, I don't know how
much time we have left on yourpodcast and maybe not change,
but or upgrade, because upgradeI think is a better word than
change.
What do you want to upgrade forthis?
It's taken.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I want you guys to see me on YouTube.
I'm starting the.
I have a couple episodes likemaybe like less than 10 episodes
out there on YouTube, but Ineed to get back on there again
too, cause I want like to put aface to the mic.
Um, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, I don't have a face for tv but right now you
look dope as hell, bro, you lookdope.
Right now we're in florida wegot the cool outfits, the
sunnies.
You got the headphones on withthe mic.
You look, we look badass rightnow, bro check it out.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm excited that we're doing a lot of content
filming out there, like we'regonna be posting a lot of behind
the scenes from our trip herein podfest, so definitely check
that out.
What's your instagram so peoplecan check?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
um, but also one more thing before I do that um, one
thing that I've learned out hereis that not that it doesn't
matter, but views and followersare not.
It's, it's not all about thatyeah and it's hard for me to
accept that sometimes, um, butwe've met a lot of people who
know so much and they're soknowledgeable no way more than
(36:30):
us and they don't have theydon't.
It's like they have, justregular followers.
They're not that many likes andyou know what I'm saying, so
it's not about that.
It's like they have justregular followers.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They're not that many likes, and you know what I'm
saying.
So it's not about that.
It's not about that.
I'm grateful for the ones whocome back.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
next episode yes, exactly Because, yeah, I love
that.
But yeah, you guys can check meout on Instagram at
FernandoXGimenez, and on LittleShy Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, and you come on weekly.
I was a guest on your podcastthe same day.
This is dropping too, so goahead and go and listen to his,
because we did talk about a lotmore stuff that we didn't talk
about here, about the pod festyeah uh, we didn't talk about
like how he fell in love withinlike two minutes um with a
celsius representative yeah, shewas really, she was beautiful
yeah, he shot a shot with herand um she was beautiful he's
(37:11):
we're gonna go against here.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Talk to her today yep , I'm going to go get a pickup
at Asosias but yeah, I'm excitedfor this trip.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
We're still halfway through it.
Next week's going to be regularschedule programming, so sad no
not sad.
I'm excited for it's aboutWolfman coming out with.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Gregorzinski, oh, I'll name it Back to Work, back
to Work.
No, no, no about my podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Back to Regular Sched scheduled programming with
Wolfman, with Greg Rosinski.
It's supposed to come out thisweek but I had to push it back
for the PodFest.
But yeah, I'm excited to learnwatching the movies.
It's going to be a big year formovies in 2025.
I'm excited to get into it.
I talked about it in yourreview a little bit.
Big events coming.
My biggest goal is to go tomovie festivals a little bit and
networking with otherpodcasters.
Still, we have anothernetworking event we might go to
(37:51):
in april in chicago.
So if you're in the chicagoarea and if you see us,
definitely come by and stop by.
We'll give you advice.
Like, even if you don't have apodcast, you can still go if
you're thinking about starting apodcast yeah, definitely
recommend it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, um, thank you, fernando, for coming on the
podcast thank you for having me,bro, bringing me on this trip
with you.
I mean, that's a big plus um.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Thank you for listening.
Stay tuned next week, whereI'll be saving you a seat.
Peace out.
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