Wolf Man with Greg Rucinski

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Sorry, this is taken.
Sorry, greg, it's been.
It's been a long time since wewe sat down and talked about
movies yeah, it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
When was our last episode?
Um it was a good question itwas before december, I believe.
I think the last one washeretic and um heretic and the
one really dumb oh, heretic,yeah, yeah, yeah well, it's a
sydney sweeney movie immaculateimmaculate.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, that was like november, I think.
Yeah, um, your movie glow.
We, we talked your movie goinghas slowed down tremendously
yeah, a little bit like I'vegone through life changes yeah,
I mean, you have good excuse forit, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I have a good excuse.
Like I've been busy with workand everything Work, the
girlfriend and I moved into anew little townhouse.
It's actually really nice, Alittle two-story one.
It's been like we're in theprocess of moving still.
You know, like that shit takesa while to do so far, still
liking each other.
Yeah, we haven't killed eachother yet.
We talk about ways we wouldkill each other, though.

(01:05):
It's actually kind of cute.
It's actually sweet, I guess.
So we looked at the crawl spacethat we have For the first time
a couple of days ago and she'sshort enough that she can't
reach it If I were to toss herdown there.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I don't think I could reach it either.
You're going to be thesubstance where you make a
secret room, where you keep thebody.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
That's actually pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, my movie going experience has slowed down just
a little bit too, not because Idon't want to.
There's not that many goodmovies in January.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Right, not really.
January is the dump month,right.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I would say February, maybe March.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I've always heard that, like all these studios
hold on to their shitty moviesbecause nobody really goes to
the theater that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You said that because I've seen four movies, four
movies in the month of januaryand um two of them.
I'm kind of surprised we're inthe month of january because I
think they were good enough tobe pushed back to may or april.
Um so the four movies I've seen, one of them days the new kiki
pal, palmer and Silsom movie.
Okay, flight Risk with MarkWahlberg and Topher, grace

(02:09):
Wolfman and Companion.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I wanted to see Companion.
That might be the next one Itry and go to.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Also notable movies that came out that I didn't see
yet is Dogman and Den of Thieves2.
Den of Thieves 2.
Dogman.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It looks ridiculous, it looks too silly.
I'm not gonna lie, that trailermade me laugh real hard when I
saw it the first time what'sthat?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
one comedian who plays a chief in that movie.
He has a distinguishable voice,you know I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I would watch it just for him alone he's uh, but the
it genuinely kind of like.
I'm ashamed at how hard Ilaughed at the theater um, I
look cute though.
Yeah, the other day I had a dateand then I went to go use the
restroom in the middle and I raninto my cousin grown-ass man
going to see it you used therestroom during movies well, it
was only a movie that I've seenfor the second time, so that's

(02:53):
why I felt okay to do it, solike when you have to go during
a movie, like I hold it, yeah, Ihold it I plan ahead you'll sit
.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
See me there crossing my legs like about to cry
before I go to use the restroom.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It takes a lot for me to go to Like I have to have
like a turtle head poking out orlike you know.
Even if I go to a movie thatI'm not really feeling and it
kind of sucks, I'll still holdit, yeah, because, like, at the
end of the day, you pay moneyfor it and it's just like you
know.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'm always paranoid, even if I look away at my phone
like where there was a text onthe screen or something.
You know that I totally miss.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Or like you walk out and all of a sudden like you
realize that you went and took ashit during.
You know that scene thateverybody's talking about online
, that everybody loves.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't remember the website, but there is a website
out there where you can.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Google.
Yeah, when to go pee, it's thethe best time to use the
restroom Take a little break.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I've never done that before and I probably
never will.
You should try and time it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean that'd be a cool job.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Hey, just to watch a movie.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Sit down and drink a bunch of pop and just time it,
based on the story, beats.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I bet that's kind of complicated to do.
It sounds complicated too.
I would feel like I would haveto watch the movie two or three
times before I could decide yeahbecause most movies, like a
good movie, every second counts.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So like every scene is supposed to move everything
forward, as opposed to like ashitty movie where they could
have just shit happen.
That you know doesn't?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm going to tell you the movie that I'm going to
talk about first.
One of them Days.
It's a comedy.
It's it's a comedy.
It's a cheesy comedy, likewhere the plot line is kiki palm
and says our best friends,their roommates, uh says his
boyfriend spends their rentmoney.
The whole movie they're tryingto figure out how they're gonna
pay their rent by the end of theday before they're evicted.
I mean, there's a bunch ofshenanigans, a bunch of skids
that go on in the whole movie,but if you miss one of them it's

(04:37):
literally not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It sounds in the vein of like those early 90s kind of
Friday.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, I've heard it described like it's like the new
modern day Friday movie, but Ihate that they describe that
because no one could touchFriday.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I like that genre specifically.
It's similar to that thoughLike a little bit smaller stakes
, but it's throughout the courseof a day and these people just
have one either a couple ofreally bad days, or like really
weird days, or just one bad day,or a bunch of random ass shit
happens yeah, those are goodgenres and kiki, palmer and
sizzle have such great chemistryin this movie I do like kiki

(05:14):
palmer I I honestly, I'll be thefirst to admit, I'm not the
biggest fan of kiki palmer.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I like her in the straighter roles, like the like
the less funny roles.
But she did.
She was a responsible one inthis movie and she played both
the funny character and thestraight man very well in this
movie.
Scissor I was kind of concernedabout because I don't know
really her acting experience.
This role was good for her.
Yeah, if, if she was gonna belike, say, like the revenant or
something like that, you know, Iwouldn't buy any of their shit

(05:40):
you know, but she did goodespecially.
I think it made it easier.
You said they're good friendsin real life and that bled off
the screen.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, that makes the difference.
You know, when the actors do,you have that same sense of
camaraderie you know I made asurprise.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Cameo net was kat williams really.
Yeah, he showed up on a littlenow and then are you following
any of this?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
um, uh, blake, lively justin, I love the tea on this
shit yeah, blake lively thoughtshe was gonna have his ass right
, I think it just came todaylike he released more evidence
not today this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I can't remember exactly what it was, but it's.
There's a conspiracy goingaround that she's blaming him
for sexual harassment to deflectthe fact that ryan reynolds
thinks she's cheating on him.
Have you heard that one?
No, so apparently ryan reynoldswould come in almost daily to
check out all the footage justto watch him.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And she finally felt under pressure.
So people are saying she madeup the lie Like he sexually
harassed me, Just to deflectthat blame off of her.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
How would you cheat on Ryan Reynolds?
She seemed like a bitch, so shewas great in the Shallows
though.
The Shallows is one of myfavorite shark movies have you
ever seen it?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
She's great in it.
It's fun.
But yeah, that tea is prettyfun.
What other movies do you knowwhere the actors have hated each
other?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
What's that one with Liam Liam, liam?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Neeson's no, the pop star Hemsworth.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Liam McIntyre.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
No From One.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Direction neeson's no .
The pop star hemsworth no.
Liam mcintyre no.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
From one direction, that's mcintyre right no, I'm
sorry, I don't know what is thatmovie with him and um bands
like you, chris, not pratt oh,oh, harry styles harry styles
and um chris um uh pine yeah,when that movie was yeah, don't
worry, darling, yeah, there wassome drama with that movie.
What was that movie?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
called Don't Worry Darling.
Yeah, there was some drama withthat movie too, because there's
that bit where it looked likeHarry Styles spit on Chris Pine.
Have you seen it?
It looks a lot like it, it does, it does.
It's kind of hard to defend.
They played that off prettywell, though.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah and then you had that Johnny Depp with his
ex-wife yeah, um.
So I mean I do enjoy the tea.
I mean this I cannot wait forthis court case to go down and
the diddy one to go down thatdiddy one's never gonna go down.
You know that one's never didyou hear that conspiracy theory
that he started the wildfires?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I there's.
There's weird shit there,though, for real.
Though like you have like ellendegeneres fleeing the country
and shit like that.
You know, yeah, she's over inuk now.
Like If you look at some ofthose old tweets that she has
where she talks about, P.
Denny, some of that stuff issuper sus, yeah, so I don't
think he probably did it, but Ido think that there might be an

(08:12):
issue where it's like evidenceis needing to get gone.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
For those of you who don't know, we had our podcast
together and we kind of ended it, but you're still thinking
about bringing it back to doconspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, I do.
I think about the conspiracytheory thing a bit.
I do think about thepossibility of turning the
awkward bartender's guide into abook.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You could do both honestly, but if you do the
conspiracy have me on forcelebrity conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
theories.
That'd be fun.
That'd be so much fun.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
And then there was another conspiracy theory that I
not conspiracy, but I wanted totake as a conspiracy theorist,
with all these plane crashesgoing on.
Okay, there's like three orfour of them.
Have you heard of them recently?
Yeah, it's wild.
There's something going on withthat.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
There is.
Well, trump and his people havecome out and said the drones in
New Jersey that were flyingaround are just pretty much the
playbook of Roswell, new Mexico,back in the day, like this is
all legitimate, like nothing tosee here, move along.
Like these drones are here for,like, research purposes and
nothing like that, you know,like, but these things are still

(09:15):
flying in the sky.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, probably they're going to go anywhere
anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think so either.
Part of me thinks that it is asocial engineering kind of test
to see how people are going toreact to unknown shit in the sky
on a grand scale.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, this is the shit I want to hear on your
podcast.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm excited for that um, we're on a movie one right.
We're on a movie one right now.
Yeah, but I'm sorry, I justcompletely derailed it oh,
that's totally cool.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Uh, because our theme this episode, we're gonna be
doing monster movies yes, umthere's a lot of conspiracy
monsters movies too.
I mean like this the stuff isloosely based off of history.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, kind of yeah like myths and stuff like that
that can be intertwined withespecially like the, the myth of
the wolfman and the lycanthrope, and everything you know, like
I like, I like the differingkind of takes when you look and
compare the two movies we haveon, like a more kind of I want
to say modern virus, take onwhat werewolfism would be like

(10:12):
versus the more traditional kindof like how let the moon?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
kind of monster okay, I'm, I I'm glad we're talking
to bring that up, but before weget into those, I still want to
talk about two more movies.
Uh, flight, you risk the themark walberg stupid it okay.
So there's really only a castof three people that you see on
the screen.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
The entire movie there are other people, there's
smaller walberg.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, mark walberg did nothing for this role.
If not, he brought it down.
I got character down, not a fan.
Uh, you know, I was surprised.
You told for grace in there, Idon't know, honestly I'm just
more happy that eric form isstill acting.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
You know, you know, he's, he's he is the one, like
the girlfriend and I weretalking about this, like the
stuff with ashton kutcher andmila kunis standing up for danny
masterson and everything nowtoo right yeah yeah, so like we
want to talk celebrityconspiracy is like that stuff
there is fucking weird toobecause, like ashton kutcher
makes a big fucking deal aboutbeing all like, hey, we're gonna

(11:06):
stop just sex trafficking,we're gonna stop doing that, but
there's a.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
There's enough there that I can see him.
Maybe, like I'm talking abouteric foreman, um chris, uh,
tofer grace.
He probably didn't knowsomething.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's why he's always been so distant from the
cast, I think I yeah, I thinktoor grace knew and uh knew when
to leave the party in a lot ofways.
Yeah, yeah, it's a veryimportant skill to know have in
your life when to leave theparty he seems like just like a
gentleman in real life.
You know he's like a goodpeople he's so busy like
probably re-editing the fuckinglord of the rings I saw that

(11:39):
clip and shit now yeah, yeah,I've always wondered what those
cuts are like I was thinkingabout this the other day.
I was talking to somebody aboutmovies and like I've never seen
those movies, honestly but butum, the uh, the, the, what he
does the star wars, one in likewhat it's?
Chronological order, right, howdid he has done the re-edit of
star wars in some ways to makeit like that was sick, to split

(12:05):
in the prequel with the eventsthat happen with?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
you know I'm explaining it poorly no, no, I
totally get what you're getting,but I feel like you would have
to update that, like every otheryear, because the new Star Wars
come out and new details getadded.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's like a big project that he has done.
Like it just in his spare timehe keeps to himself.
He doesn't really like causedrama.
You don't see him in the newsanywhere, no Matter of fact I
think he even says for a wholeyear.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
A few celebrities do this.
He wore the same outfit, sopaparazzi can't get good
pictures.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Daniel Radcliffe did that.
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think Channing Tatum did that too yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's a common trick.
I would do that.
I always think I would be agood paparazzo paparazzi I hate
paparazzi.
I have enough of that likesocial disconnect where I could
just be shoving a camera insomebody's face if I knew I was
getting money for it.
What a dick I 100 could be.
I could 100 be one of thosepeople just to like chase and
harry styles down the streetwith the camera would be the
like.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Two celebrities he would follow the most, that's
tough, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
It would have to be probably people you Well, no it
would have to be somebody that'sproblematic enough to get
tabloid attention.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It used to be like Miley Cyrus and all that, so I
would think it probably would besome sort of young pop star.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That makes me sound creepy.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean Sidney Sweeney maybe.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
We're talking about paparazzi, not like-.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
She's young enough.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Timothy shamley maybe okay, do something like that
fun, um, so I mean, he's alittle trash person.
Now, though, did you noticelike him dating the jenner's and
everything?
Yeah, yeah he's falling into abad crowd we'll see where he
turns up.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
He's still young enough, though he might, he's
hot right now, like I feel likewe've seen this before.
He'll have a downfall, but thenhe'll make a comeback.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think that Kardashian thing is going to get
him bad.
I think a lot of people gotturned off by the fact that he's
buddy-buddy with a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, Pete Davidson saw that shit and got out of
there.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, exactly Pete Davidson, of all people, is like
uh-uh, I'm out, this ain't goodenough for me um, so flight
request is okay.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I wouldn't recommend seeing the theaters maybe turn
it on at the house like there'ssome cliche plot points but
overall it's pretty decent.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Uh, fucking bald cap.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's got that that was so stupid.
It had nothing to do with aplot.
It was ridiculous honestly.
Like in his whole threat he wasgonna kill them, but he was
very open about he wanted togrape christopher grace's
character.
Yeah, he brought it up like 30times in the movie was like okay
, this is getting weird now yeahwhat the fuck are we doing here
?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
that fucking guy like he is not necessarily a good
actor and I think like he'sracist too yeah, like there's a
lot of like ugly stuff towalbert, but I could still watch
ted and laugh my ass off.
Are you sorry?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
they just finished wrapping season ted too.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yes, yes, I kind of want to go back and start
re-watching I'm going to do thatbefore it's a fun show um.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I also seen companion .
This movie came out just likelast week that's jack quaid, so
fucking good yeah but I mean,it's hard to see him and
anything else besides hischaracter and the boys, yeah,
and this is one I think it couldhave done very well in April or
May too.
I'm kind of surprised it wasreleased in January.
The soundtrack alone was great,the editing was cool.

(15:12):
It was a pretty uniquestoryline, do they not?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
have a horror movie set up for February.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
They have a lot in.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
February.
They have Hard Eyes.
Yeah, I was going to saythere's one that's like a
slasher flick that's going to beheart eyes right Heart eyes
yeah, but I would think thatsomething like Companion would
have been perfect for that kindof thing.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, especially with Valentine's Day right there too
.
But there's probably so muchlined up there, what's that
Asian actor's name, seaman Liu?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, no, no, that one looks scary though I know it's,
when you're talking about the,the, uh, the heartbreak or
heartache yeah, it's like lookskind of cool though it looks
well.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I like him as an actor he's cool, but yeah, it
does look very cool to see.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
So I'm excited to watch that uh what do you see in
valentine's day?
What is it?
There's a right answer we.
What am I seeing?
Yeah, on valentine's day or forvalentine's day.
Yeah, I well, we got plans forvalentine's day, me and her
going to the city you come back.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm sorry, I don't know.
I don't know what am I sayingthere's, there's, captain
america, you gotta watch I amnot seeing that oh no, I cannot.
I'm actually excited.
You've seen the popcorn bucketfor it.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh man, it looks like I gotta show you afterwards is
it just like like it's like ashield, like that harrison
ford's head.
It's probably funny, I meanthere is.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
There is a popcorn bucket with him.
Like his bust, like his chestup, like hugging the popcorn bar
some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I can't.
I can't with those moviesanymore that had like three or
four reshoots yeah that's true,I forgot about that.
That is going to be about likefive or six different movies,
two-hour movie I don't know I'minterested in it's gonna be a
fucking train wreck.
No, it's not.
Oh, bullshit, like we talkabout this every time I'm on the
show but like I think thatuniverse is, going downhill real

(16:53):
fucking fast how about this?
the super bowl is coming up andpeople are predicting that we're
gonna see a fantastic fourtrailer I'd be excited for that,
like I'm gonna be in the seatsfor that, as long as they could
tell a Fantastic Four storywithout being like trying to
like fucking shove MarvelUniverse the extra shit down my
throat.
Fantastic Four are greatcharacters.

(17:14):
You could do specific FantasticFour stories without having the
connection to that kind ofgrand Marvel Universe.
But I think they're just tooafraid to not like be like oh
hey, here's a fantastic four.
Like let's throw in like acouple new fucking kid
adventures that we're gonna tryto force onto a disney plus
program in 10 years down theroad, or even like introduce

(17:36):
like characters, like a brandnew not like brand new from the
comics but like originalcharacters, I mean, like clearly
, galactus will be involved.
I know, that, like there's anactor that will be playing
galactus.
I know that there's going to bethe silver surfer too, but it's
going to be.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
This is also going to be taking place like in an
alternate universe yeah, whichis probably the best way of
doing it.
Yeah, you know, like I've heard, I've kind of read like
spoilers and plot scripts orlike you know, excuse me um
synopses of what might be kindof the direction, not because I
don't want to, but because thoseare always cooler than the
actual movie I think so too, but, like from what I read, it

(18:12):
looks pretty cool, like I'll bein there, probably opening night
for that one.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But as opposed to I, I can't care to give a shit
about this.
Like thunderbolts is coming up,that one might get me though,
too shut up really over captainamerica, though, because I know
that, um, one of the charactersis, uh, bob, have you ever heard
of the century?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
yeah okay, the century is going to be play a
role I think it's gonna be likea big role in that movie yeah,
and like those comic books, likethat whole arc, I don't know
who created the century.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I want to say it was probably uh, my nerd card's
gonna get revoked if I do thiswrong but I want to say it was
brian michael bendis that didthe century and it was one of
the most genuinely cool likeearly 2000s, mid 2000s, like
comic book arcs, where they havethis guy who was essentially
like, I guess in a lot of wayslike the marvel universe, is

(19:08):
superman but, he was.
All memories of him got erased.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
His own memories of his own persona got erased
that's what it kind of lookslike in the trailer yeah, yeah,
so like he's essentially awalking time bomb that could be
turned evil any second.
But also, adam Warlock was waycooler in the comics than what
he was in the movie too.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I never saw Guardians 3 yet.
Oh, shut up.
Yeah, because that one lost metoo.
Oh come on.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That was a good one.
I can't spend another two hourswatching Chris Pratt.
I don't think it's Guardians 3.
I think for you it's more ChrisPratt.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
It is.
It's more chris pratt it is.
It is because I can't spendanother two hours watching chris
pratt again, like really no, um, yeah, we'll go back to camp
companion real quick.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm fucking amazing movie.
I probably would see that againin one time.
The trailers do make it seemreally gruesome but, I believe
all the gruesome parts are inthe trailer, so like if you can
get past that stuff, I thinkit'd be golden.
It is funny.
It's a very original movie, Ifeel yeah um.
It's set in the ultimateuniverses where like sex robots,
like, are indistinguishablefrom people yeah and they put

(20:10):
they try framing this robot formurder and she's like fuck that.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's kind of great, yeah, she gets control of her
own self and stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I'm kind of on board with that idea that was another
one with a very small cast and Iloved it.
I loved it with the small cast.
Um, before, one more thing,before going to the movies uh,
well, you mentioned you're goingto florida.
Uh, and, with their universal.
I just saw a commercial foruniversal.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
They're coming out with a monster land yeah, that
looks very exciting.
By the time you go there, itshould be up and running we have
talked about the possibility ofmaking that part of the trip
you.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think you have to yeah, I would love to be able to
go do that, yeah, and then I'llhave you back on and let me
know how it is.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah because like that's a brand new park.
I think there's doing that oneand harry potter new third, so
that park is essentially thinkof like islands of adventure,
where it is um kind of like thehub world and then it has like
all these different offshootsleft, yeah right, um, that's the
one where they're going to have, uh, the kind of like British
themed Harry Potter spot, whereit's going to be more kind of in

(21:07):
line with the ministry of magicUm and the um, uh, fantastic
beasts and where to find them,kind of style, um, that kind of
time period of that kind ofworld, a brand new how to train
your dragon land.
That's what they're like,there's going to be a super
Nintendo world World, which I amstill fucking stoked about.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I will lose my shit and act like a damn child in
that you're going to go there atthe end of the season, it's
going to be like a brand newplace if you go on the regular
oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
What other ones are there?

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I don't think Disney's coming out with a
Marvel Land.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Disney's going downhill, from what I understand
.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean I'm going again in November, but like I, I
, I think I can get to this job.
I'll be Disney good for a longtime.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I really enjoyed Epcot.
Still, Epcot was a lot of funfrom being like my first real
Disney experience but, uh, I'veheard mixed reviews on a lot of
like Disney experiences overallanymore.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I don't think that Bing for that.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
The prices keep going up, yeah that Bing for that
buck don't do us any good, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm excited to try that out.
All right, so for those of uslistening now, so we've still
kept up with us we're going tobe doing the new 2024 Wolfman
movie and for a throwback, youpicked a 2006 movie I believe
2002, I think 2002, geez DogSoldiers.
I never heard of this movie,never seen this movie, didn't
know anything about it.
I went in there blind, yeah,and it was interesting.

(22:29):
Yeah, it was interesting, itwas fun.
I like that movie a lot.
For Wolfman, you know theoriginal came out in 1941.
Have you ever seen the original?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, I have not.
No, I might.
College film course where theydid a lot of old black and white
horror movies, so that mighthave been one that was covered,
but there was a lot of drugs.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I've never seen it, but I've been reading that
there's a couple of referencesto that.
The moving truck that theydrive, the moving company on the
side of it, is a made up onebut it says established 1941.
That's a reference to theoriginal Stuff, like that.
We went actually both laterafter, after we didn't go
opening day to see this movie.
So when I went to go see itthere's maybe like three or four

(23:08):
people in my theater and I wentto go.
I'd mentioned I was gonna seenosferatu, but I went to go to
imagine one of that and they had, like, um, a wolf man cocktail
yeah let me share it down.
It's called hair of the wolf.
It's just vodka, orange liqueur, orange juice, simple syrup,
simple syrup and grenadine $13.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
For vodka orange liqueur.
That's an expensive cocktail.
Yeah, what's in?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
there.
First of all, my drink lookednothing like the picture.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
It never does.
Yeah, I mean, it was okay.
Nothing special, I feel like italmost reminded me of Tequila
Sunrise almost.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, that's what it essentially is, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, but I like movie-themed cocktails.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Those are pretty cool .

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I know you don't get them, but that one just popped
off the screen for me.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I've got like the one that we go to is the Imagine 2,
and we've never sat and had adrink beforehand.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I like that one because you can take the drink
out of the theater.
I didn't know that, yeah, but Ithink the AMC's here too, you
can do that.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So when you get the drink, do they give it to you in
a plastic?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
A plastic.
They give you a lid too.
You can put a straw on, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's kind of cool.
I didn't know that.
I thought you would have had todrink it inside the actual bar.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't know.
As soon as she gave me my drink, she gave me the bill.
She said have a good night.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
She's like I don't care enough about this job
Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It was a Thursday so he knew I was there.
But, Wolfman, you know thismovie came out.
It's about a family at a remotefarmhouse is attacked on an
unscreened animal but as thenight stretches on, the father
begins to transform intosomething unrecognizable.
This movie was directed byLeigh Whannell Wh.
Recognizable.
This movie was directed byLeigh Whannell.
Leigh Whannell, Whose directedmovie is like Invisible man, the

(24:48):
remake of Invisible man, stufflike that.
He's pretty familiar.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Did he do Insidious?
I'm pretty sure he did.
Oh, he said James Wan.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I think it's James Wan.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
oh, he did insidious, the one that came out just last
2023 so, like I don't know ifyou follow any like broadway
news or like stage show news,there was an insidious stage
show that was like touringacross the country and it was
like billed as this kind of likeimmersive horror experience
where you know you meet and likeyou're sitting down in a

(25:20):
theater with the two like goofyghost hunter guys from those
movies and like you're, they'retalking to you and everything,
and then shit goes wrong in thetheater and there's monsters and
demons that pop out.
Apparently it is so bad yeah,it is so bad that it got
canceled mid-tour.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I feel like if it was so bad it would probably be
popular, just like.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, if you go online and you can watch people
talk about it on YouTube, alittle bit they share some
reactions and everything.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Would you still watch it?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
though no, it looks, it sounds bad To the point where
it's like these theatercompanies are refunding people's
tickets because they're likethis is the worst thing we've
ever seen.
Like we are sorry, like thisdoes not meet our standards for
the kind of performance that wewant to have at this theater.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's like hard to do though, like that's like, they
took a conjuring conjuring tomake that a play, you know it's
the stupidest idea I've everheard.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah um?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
what was your theater experience like?
Was it busy there?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
not really.
We went um thursday beforeopening night, so like it's one
of those like showings that likeunless you don't know what's
going on, you just assume it's afriday showing.
Um, not that many people.
You know like it was.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
We go early though, like we don't like to do the
fucking like 7 pm, 8 pm showsyeah, well, yeah too, I'm saying
we got shit to do anyways, uh,but the only people I see talk
about this movie are people likeus, like there's a big movie
fanatics, but like I don't seelike the average movie goer to
see this movie.
And even the creators of thismovie came out and said like

(26:54):
yeah, this isn't going to beliked by everybody.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
You're either going to really really love it or just
really, really hate it yeah,and I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
yeah movie.
The trailers looked amazing forthis movie.
It was so unique, Like the waythey did the claw marks and
everything for the spelling outWolfman.
I thought that was genius andit looks scary and stuff like
that.
But what you see in thetrailers is pretty much the
whole highlights of the wholefucking movie.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
There's a couple of like good uses of shot framing
that I did appreciate in thismovie.
Oh, it was cinematically shotbeautifully, and there's a
couple of bits that were kind ofintense.
I thought Like toward the ones,the stuff in the beginning.
You know where you know Withthe dad.
Yeah, and for me, when horrorhappens in the daytime, that

(27:37):
always is like super cool andsuper like even more frightening
to me.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah well, and it's also harder too.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, it is, it is, but they, there's the
establishing bits where you know, you see, the, the hero, or the
the father, well, the protag.
Can we say he's a protagonistkind of.
Yeah, like the protagonist, um,and he's with his father and
you know his father's kind of Idon't want to say a dick, he was
an ass yeah, like it was a hardass on his son.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, he was like Eric former 10, or I mean.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Red.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Red Foreman times 10.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, but he's taking him hunting and he's just kind
of being like very, very stern,kind of authoritative dad.
And you know the sons you know,got the sniper rifle or I
wouldn't say sniper rifle, butlike a rifle and he's trying to
hunt and you know, in the yousee the pov of the crosshairs
and you see just like thosebrief silhouettes of the fucking
.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, that's called, like there's a specific word for
that, but like it's mostfamously done in jaws, like the
start of it, like you know, you,you, you know something's there
, but it's just your imaginationbuilding it up to look even
scary what it was.
And they did that beautifullyin this movie, oh yeah there's a
, yeah, there's a, that one.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
It really got me.
Uh, the bits where they have torun and hide in the little like
deer, deer blind, deer blind.
Yes, then, where they have torun and hide in the little deer
blind, and you know, you see thebreath of the thing.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That was cool there are.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
There are some really good ideas in this movie but,
just like you said, I don'tthink it's more of a love it or
hate it.
Like I like this movie, I couldsee stuff that could improve,
but overall I'm not mad that Ispent the money on it, so I mean
to me like there's like nocharacter development in this
movie not really no, this islike kind of like one and done

(29:18):
kind of thing there was like noreason for me to really be
invested in these characters.
I I felt like I don't give afuck.
You don't really get a sense ofthe.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Who they are in a regular life.
I mean, yeah, he's a dad whodoesn't want to be the same as
his dad and try to be a goodfather to his kid, and I don't
even know this is confirmed.
I might be making this up in myhead, but was there marital
problems between him and hiswife?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, Because I think she was working and he wasn't.
Maybe it was probably just a.
Very Well, you see how thedaughter in the beginning of the
movie they start to have afight and the daughter is
apparently comfortable enough tolook at them both and be like
when I have kids, I'm neverfighting in front of them.
Yeah, and that's a prettyballsy kind of delivery.

(30:01):
So this is something that poorgirl has probably suffered with
for a long time since she was akid yeah so that marriage is
probably on the ropes.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I didn't like that scene, though, when he was like
yelling in front of her because,like I didn't buy it, I could
totally tell he was acting, youknow.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
But like I could kind of get the idea that they're
trying to set up where it's justand you see it too towards the
end, like history, like I wasjust talking with some my
girlfriend with it about it, butlike at the end of the day we
essentially all become ourparents yeah yeah, like I mean
the whole shot the point was.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was an establishing shot for the
character yeah um, but like Ifelt like part of the reason
this movie kind of fell off I Ifelt like it was heavily studio
influenced.
We got to have some cliches inhere too.
The whole line was like what amI thinking of right now that I
love my daughter the most?
She's like five times in themovie.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's a little dorky .
I did kind of roll my eyes atthat.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
As soon as she said that.
I guarantee you they're goingto do this at the end.
When he's a wolf, there's gotto be like.
It is a little bit too cheesythat one does kind of seem like
a rewrite or a script to passover and this whole movie was
mostly about not really so muchthe Wolfman, but like as his
character's transformation intothe Wolfman, Like physically not
even anything else.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
So it's a Blumhouse production right.
Blumhouse has kind of fallenoff it reminds me a lot of the
style of the purge, where it'slike let's have, we have a
really good idea here, but we'regonna just kind of narrow it
down to a singular, like trappedin a house film, house invasion
film, you know which is gonnabe like our next movie, yeah

(31:38):
yeah, but um, it's.
It works in some ways because,like, once Are we going through
the plot?
Yeah, so once the plot kicksoff when the man's father dies
and it's established that thefather has been a woodsman,
lives in the woods his entirelife and he is aware of

(32:00):
something in the woods that he'strying to hunt, yeah, do they
clearly say wolfman or some sortof something in the woods?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
that he's trying to hunt, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Does he?
Do?
They clearly say like wolf manor some sort of creature in the
woods.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It wasn't like the Mexican term for it that they
use.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is it like Bruja?
No, that's a witch.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
No, no, there was something like that, but it
meant, like the wolf, the faceof a wolf, or something.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, but in any case , like the son walks in on his
dad talking to somebody on likea CB radio about it and be like,
hey, we saw it out there, likewe're going to get it this time,
you know, yeah, the son kind ofpicks up on it and, you know,
as he grows into an adult herealizes and carries on this
whole kind of like verytraumatic experience of like
seeing this thing and beinghunted by this thing.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know, because those first 10 minutes are
pretty intense, I feel like yeah, definitely.
Where they set off the firstattack.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
And it doesn't pick up again until another 45
minutes after that.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
It does move a little bit slow, but they do create
some tension.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
How about when they're driving to the house
they run into some stranger?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, so the man's father dies and he gets the
notice of hey, this property isnow yours.
X, y, z, you know?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Come close it or something like that.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, and it's kind of a last-ditch effort to save a
failing marriage.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
in a lot of ways, yeah, like a family trip, and
this also before we keep going.
This movie was shot in NewZealand too, and it looked
beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I didn't know that because it looked like America
to me.
That looked like america to me.
That's kind of crazy, um.
But you know it's a last ditchthing, just kind of help save a
marriage.
Like come with me back to myfamily's home, help me out here.
Like we'll take some time inthis country for a bit and you
know, once the mom and thedaughter agree to it, shit goes
south pretty quick yeah, like Imentioned, they run into an old

(33:39):
friend of his from his childhoodand uh, that guy was just odd
the entire time I like that heinvites himself into their car
with a gun and he's just likestaring at them from a deer
blind and everything motionlessas they're driving.
So like that's, like thosesettings of horror movies, like
deep woodsy settings in horrormovies, scare the fuck out of me
.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't like that kind of stuff no, like I could
go camping.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I think camping would be cool, I think camping's fun,
but I also like, like there's abit of an adrenaline kick for
me too because, like I'm, one ofmy favorite like bigfoot movies
is willow creek.
Have you ever watched?
that no, but it's, it's good,it's good.
There's a it's a found footageflick and there's a prolonged,
like maybe 10, 15 minute scenewhere it's just set inside of a

(34:26):
tent and, um, I had headphoneson for when I was watching it
for the first time and thiscouple's got like a camera going
and everything and they, youknow, they hear, you hear
rustling all around and atpoints you see like the
silhouette of a face, like gothrough the tent, kind of like
it's sniffing them andeverything.
The woods are scary.
I don't, I don't fuck with thewoods, woods have werewolves.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I let my dog in the backyard here.
It's scary as shit.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
When it's dark, it is it is because you don't know,
like at the end of the day, youdon't really know what's out
there.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Be it like right even though, like here, it's just
like raccoons and shit like that, but still that record's pretty
scary as shit.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Oh, I mean, they are like what's the saying?
Raccoon and day, stay away,raccoon at night it's all right,
I guess I don't think I've everseen a record in their day well
, if you do, that means theyusually have rabies.
Oh shoot, yeah, that's scary,yeah, so always remember that
okay, let's go back to the movie.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Though they get there , I mean they, you know they
they see something in the street.
I like that was a good pop upscare.
I like that I'm not a big fan ofpop-up scares, but that was a
pretty good one and they driveoff the side of the road and
something attacks the car.
This is our first interaction.
Like I said, this is like asilhouette thing again.
You just see its arms slashsomething real quick and you see
something dragging this, thisbody, away too.

(35:39):
That was genius.
Like that they go running, theyrun through the woods until
they find the house and then yousee it chasing.
That was pretty scary.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That is a good bit like there are really.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
There are elements of really good moments of tension
here but they get inside thehouse and they all they do is
lock it and it was like.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
This thing is just like oh damn, they got away yeah
, it takes them a minute to kindof get the idea, to barricade
and everything.
Yeah, and he's just walkingaround the house and they're
like, but also during like.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I was thinking the whole time.
They didn't have cell phones,though I couldn't remember.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I think it's an element of like it's a fucking
woodsman, you know that shitdoesn't work in the woods.
Yeah, like it's.
You know, I'm surprised therewas no landline.
Then the guy like do you think?
Well, it was his father's placeand his father was like kind of
an off the grid kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Like he was on the CB radio downstairs, not using a
phone to try and talk to people.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, and like the rest of the movie he said,
it just takes place in thishouse Like, not the South, like
a farmland, because they'reoutside a little bit too,
because they're outside a littlebit too During the initial
attack.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Though, once they get ran off the road and they pull
each other out of the truck andthey make the break for the
house, he does get scratched,and that's when he starts to get
infected.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, and he slowly this whole movie is him turning
into it.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So I love the idea of .
I think it's kind of likemodern times-yy, you know, like
to turn this idea of the wolfman into a virus kind of thing
but this is a sidebar.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Did you see the other werewolf movie, werewolves,
that came out last year december?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
no, is that the one frank gorilla?
No, I haven't.
I haven't seen that either.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I'm mad that I haven't seen that I think it's
on peacock now or something I'llhave to check that out.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Um, but like, changing the idea of like the,
the lycanthrope, into an actualvirus, yeah, very modern, I feel
like.
I think that's a neat way oflooking at it.
I mean it, there's a lot ofhistorical context to the idea
of like back in the day, likethis just being these, these

(37:41):
guys that people saw, just beinglike woodsmen that were out
there for too long, went alittle fucking crazy.
They probably did contractsomething from whatever animal
at some point.
You know, I think there is anelement of truth to the lore and
the mythology of the wolf manand but I do if, if, if, big if,
if it is real and those kindsof things were real, I think it

(38:04):
would be more in line with thisI agree with that.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I mean, you see the whole process of transforming,
first like it's the senses andeverything like that, and then
he's physical transforming.
I I like that bit a lot likeone of the first things you do.
You notice he has super hearing.
Yeah, that's thudding like yeah, here's something pounding
against the wall and then hegoes, looks up, it's a spider
crawling on the wall that's acool bit it's a big ass fucking
spider though that was scaryshit.

(38:28):
That was a real spider I readthe but that's another reason
like proof that I was filmed innew zealand.
You know that was scary shit.
And then, like he can his night, he got night vision.
I looked up like how are theydoing the perspective switching
back and forth?
It was all done in one smoothshot, yeah, and it was all
practical.
They had lighting there thatthey changed it.

(38:48):
That's kind of cool.
It was very cool.
And then, um, another cool factI got about like how he started
not being able to understandregular human language I like
that too.
um, how they did that?
Their vocals were overlaid byother vocals, but in reverse too
, so that's what makes it sounda little jumbled.
That was pretty cool.

(39:10):
Interesting detail too.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I like body horror movies.
So you like the Substance Ifucking loved the Substance
Jennifer's Body yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Fun fact my friend Glenn, who's always on this
podcast.
He watched that at his bestfriend's house across the street
.
He called his mom to get.
Can you watch me go across thestreet?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Jennifer's Body's fun .
I'm not a big fan of the DiabloCody that wrote it.
I fucking hate Juno.
Juno's one of my least favoritemovies I cannot stand Juno at
all.
But Jennifer's Body, I think,works because of Amanda Seyfried
and Megan Fox.
Megan Fox is funny in thatmovie.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
She's in another movie that's got body.
It's another robot movie, or isit a show?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Another sex bot movie .
Yeah, sex bots are so hot rightnow.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'm sold.
I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Throw Cindy Sweeney in there that's gonna be the new
trend in horror movies.
Come mark my word we're gonnastart to see more like sex bot.
We're gonna start to see morelike ai robot shit.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Remember like back in the day like there was always
tits in horror movies, yeah, nowthis is not.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, bring that back, I want that that's
very, um, specific to like the80s exploitation era, though, of
that kind of stuff.
It's very titillating to havesomebody be fucking and then all
of a sudden get a knife to theback.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah.
So the night vision and thevocal thing was very cool in
this movie.
Then you get into his physicaltransformation.
On top of that, his family'snoticing weird shit's going on.
There was that one scene wherehe was barricading the door with
a bookshelf and he looks andhis wife's just there staring at
him, and so was the daughter.
I was like what the fuck isthat about?
I thought, are they seeingsomething that we're not seeing
on screen yet?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well, the practical effects when he pulls off his
Band-Aid.
That was gross.
There's a lot of really coolshit there.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
And I also read an interview.
He was talking about that sceneand how he gnaws on it, you
know, for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's like when that happened, that kind of got me a
bit you know, Like that is good, I think.
Physical character acting bythe actor's part.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Well, he said it was so easy for him because you know
it's fake blood, so it's likemostly sugar and he said, like
the bone, you see it.
He said he thinks it was likewhite chocolate or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
So it was very easy for him to really get in there
and do it.
Yeah, like that is, like that'san intense bit, because like
that's when he starts to reallyturn.
You see him acting full on,like a damn dog.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
And it's not like he doesn't know what to he's
realizing.
Oh shit, I'm changing.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
He's got some sense of an idea and it's because of
the fact that, like, he had thatexperience as a kid and he
walked in on his dad being like,hey, there's something out
there in these fucking woods.
I saw it again.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
We're trying to kill it, but it got away and then
there's also like I'm kind ofspeeding through this now, but
there's also a face-off scenewith him and the other wolf man.
That's already existing.
Yes, that was pretty cool andintense, because not only him
were fighting the wife's, though.
They're both fighting toprotect a little girl.
Yeah and um, I swear I've seenshe gets scratched too at one
point like once her leg wasdangling through that like thing

(42:08):
no, they're careful with thatstuff yeah, but, um, that scene
was cool alone because, like,obviously it shows he's just as
strong as this new one and he'skind of like I wouldn't say
accepting it, but using it forhis advantage.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah yeah, there's like when the other wolfman
begins to stalk them and thingslike that.
You know, there's a bit on theoutside where they're hanging
above like a suspended canopytime and you see the silhouette
of the wolfman underneath themtrying to get at them like those
are pretty effective shots.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
There wasn't a whole lot of shots with like you see
him fully no, and I think thatworks.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I think that works.
But when you did, see him fully.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
How did you think about the life I?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
think that, given the take that they're going, where
they're trying to make it moreof a viral thing, where it's
like a disease, I think that'sthe best way of doing it I mean
there's one people that looklike fucking crackheads.
Yeah, I mean like I think thatif, if that shit was real, I
think that that's how it wouldlook like fucking crackheads.
Yeah, I mean like I think thatif that shit was real, I think
that that's how it would looklike.

(43:07):
I don't think necessarily itwould be the as we were going to
hop on in the next movie.
It's going to be that style ofwolf.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I kind of wish it was , though almost I do like the
style, because I was like why hedoesn't even look like a wolf.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Where the fuck did they get that Wolfman title from
then?
Well, I mean, let's be fair,like did the like.
You know how the old UniversalWolfman looked Like?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
back in the day.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Like it didn't necessarily look the most
convincing either.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, I guess.
Well, this other movie did alot, yeah, yeah, but we'll get
into that in just a second.
We're almost done with this onemade it ended.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I wish there was like another 15 minutes added to
this because, like I mean,there's not much of a story to
tell really, it is like you saidthere's.
That doesn't really feel likethere's much in the way of like
character development.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I don't like more movies, like obviously lead to a
sequel, but like I think youcould have let it like expanding
this universe a little bit,because is there other wolf
people out there or is it justone passing on the?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
bloodline or what you ?
You mentioned the bloodlinething and you kind of makes me
wonder too whether or not thisis almost hereditary at a point
I don't think so because theyare like spoiler alert.
But you know, it is revealedthat the wolfman that is chasing
them this entire time is likethe kid's father, his, and I
thought that was pretty obvioustoo.
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I didn't pick up on that maybe I'm just a big dummy
in the theater.
I think you're just out oftouch with your movie going
stuff, because like it's a goodto me.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
It was a cool reveal.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know like they get that wolfman down but I
almost like wish they revealedthat or he realized that while
he was still human too yeah,because that would have been
more interesting, I think.
But he do you like, becausethen he would have more of a
dilemma versus killing them.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You know, I think yeah, yeah, you know like he,
because at that point the animalinstinct was kind of just
kicking over for him too.
Right, yeah, because after hekills or gets rid of the father
is when he starts to fully go.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Right, yeah, and then , like he knows he's gonna turn
on his family and then that'swhen he he starts to run away,
but then he ends up coming backfor them and then this is
another spoiler alert the wifeshoots him.
I mean, the acting was great inthis movie.
I thought I didn't think therewas nothing too bad with the
acting.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Some of the dialogue was a little bit cheesy, but the
two main leads, they were greatin this movie, yeah, and for
the main lead, the father youother father you need, you
needed somebody to have thatphysicality to.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
it was, I think james mcavoy could have did great in
this role with this scene, histransformation, and split how he
did that.
See, but that's it takes, thatI don't know you know who was
going to originally play thischaracter it was signed on two
years ago was ryan gosling Ican't see that either.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't think that would.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
That was like right after that would have been right
after Barbie too.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
So these movies?
I think for these movies towork, they need to be about the
story and not the actor.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And that's why I'm kind of glad they didn't pick
A-listers, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
We want to talk about the Invisible man, for example.
That's another one that updated, Because you saw that one right
, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I saw that and the original one.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, the uh, the updated version is another one
that they took an idea and theymodernized it extremely well and
that one is super effective.
Kind of surprising like asequel to that.
Yeah, I don't think thereshould be one, because that one
works fucking well.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
That one I'm actually kind of surprised you don't
have a monster universe yet.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I don't want them to do that because they tried that
with fucking tom cruise and allthat shit and and Russell Crowe
as Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, likecome on, I don't want to see
that shit.
Yeah, no more of these backdoorpilots into some shared dark
universe.
I don't need that.
No, I don't need to see theWolfman teaming up with the
Invisible man to fight Dracula.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I mean, we got nosferatu already.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I mean like there's going to be apparently they're
one of the rides that's going tobe at epic universe is going to
be a like harry potter style um, you've been to the one islands
of adventure.
There's the harry potter onethat's in um the hogwarts, the,
the journey, forbidden journey,or whatever yeah, yeah the one
where they they have you flyingthrough and you're going through

(47:06):
and you're seeing the Dementorsand you're going through the
forest and everything.
It's going to be that same kindof ride style.
That one's low-key kind of.
Scary, that one is low-key kindof scary Because of the spiders
.
That one gets me.
Every time too, the Dementorpops up and everything and it's
a big fucking face.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And face.
It's, in your face it is.
It is that one gets me and Ifeel like I should.
I'm a grown-ass I think I did.
They're updating that one,right, you're talking.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Well, no, they're going to take that same kind of
ride style and make a giant one,set in like the dark universe
yeah so it's going to be likeyou're in lisa frankenstein's or
like his daughter's castle andlike all of these monsters break
out, or no, dracula gets looseand everything and you have to

(47:48):
Frankenstein's going to fighthim, or some shit.
Okay, that does sound like itcould be scary, but I would
still ride it.
Some of those animatronics thatthey have shown too for those
rides look fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah, they look awesome.
I'm more excited for it now.
Yeah me too.
I think Ryan Gos awesome.
I'm always excited for it now,yeah me too.
Um, I think, right, we're goingback, ryan gosling is still a
producer on this movie too, butlike you can't have the like
it's about how do you feel aboutryan gosling joining star wars?
What he's gonna be in um, um,who's the director, thor ragnar?
Not right?
Yeah, thor ragnarok tycho tychowhat td?

(48:20):
he's directing a star wars movieand ryan Ryan Gosling just
signed on to star in it.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
That sounds awful Because Taika Waititi kind of
sucks yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Take out him though.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
But if it was?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
in a different director, maybe like what's it?
Jj Abrams or something.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Taika Waititi was good back in the day.
Have you ever seen?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
When he was fresh, when it was unique.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Now we're like, used to his style there is an amazing
movie um hunt for the world ofpeople with sam neill and it is
with the, the kid from deadpool2, the little fat kid oh yeah,
well, he was in y2k yeah, yeah.
So if you get a chance, watchthat it is a fat kid from dead
it is amazing though.

(49:02):
It's a great film.
It's funny and it's sweet andit's like sam neill just being a
grumpy old man.
It's amazing, but like taikaback in the day doing that stuff
was fantastic, but like himbeing in charge of shit like
thor no, huge movies like thisno like star wars like him and
free guy you know it's annoying.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I mean I was decent, but like I mean it's going to be
another comedy movie for StarWars.
I don't think Star Wars fansare going to like that,
Especially with Ryan ReynoldsNot Reynolds Ryan Gosling, who's
just off of doing the lastthree or four movies.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Nothing but comedies, yeah we don't need big names.
Give that shit a rest.
Disney needs to lay the IP downand just let it go.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I feel like it's going to be another Free Guy
type of movie with it probablywill be it probably will be.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
It's probably gonna be stupid.
Not free guy, I mean, um thefall guy.
Disney has tainted my favoritefranchises in a lot of ways.
Like I was never really a bigstar wars like nerd, nerd, but I
could definitely tell theoutput of it has made it a lot
shittier overall.
Like shit.
Like I know that the acolytedidn't do well, the mandalorian

(50:07):
kind of fall off that book ofboba fett.
Like we don't need tv.
Excuse me, we don't need tvshows for over.
Like when, where they come outwith next.
You know what I want to seenext?
For that?
I'm getting mad now because yougot me on this rant, but I want
to see a fucking likedocumentary about the cantina
band in most isley, or no, theone that plays in um java's uh

(50:31):
oh, okay castle and like no, no,it was a cantina band you know,
the one that does like that ohyeah like do you think they
realize that they like drop thenumber one banger in the star
wars universe?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
right there.
Okay, you just you want to like.
Okay, do you feel like themusic type?
Okay, do you feel like it'sBehind the music type of stuff?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, do you feel like it's like they would look
back at that performance inabout 10 years and it would be
like the same as, like I don'tknow, seeing like Modest Mouse
playing on the street, justplaying like Float On before
they got famous?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
You're thinking too much anyway, now.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
See but if we're going to do that, yeah, let's do
that, let's get a documentaryabout that.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
But if they did it in the form of the Office, I think
it could work.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
See well, the only thing that's come out recently
in the Star Wars canon that hasmade me kind of interested is
the idea of the Goonies kind ofstyle thing with Jude Law.
Okay, it's out now and it'scalled Skeleton Crew.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I heard about that.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It's not connected to the lore of anything
overarching, it's just kind oflike a one-shot show where a
bunch of young kids in the StarWars universe get into hijinks.
So it's essentially likeGoonies.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
That is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
It's out there in Disney+.
I'm almost interested in it,but pass all this shit.
Almost interested in it, butpass all this shit.
Really, if you're going to dothis shit with Marvel and you're
going to do this shit withDisney, you need to do new stuff
.
Rogue One worked because of itbeing a completely different
kind of feel and genre to methan a Star Wars film.
Rogue One felt like a spythriller.

(52:03):
It felt like a war movie.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
It didn't feel like a Star.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Wars movie.
Well, it felt like a war movie.
It didn't feel like a Star Warsmovie.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Well, it's kind of interesting you say that right
now, because our next moviedefinitely felt like a war movie
to me versus just a werewolfmovie.
We're going to be talking aboutthe 2002 Dog Soldiers for the
second movie that you picked fora throwback.
This movie's about a routinemilitary exercise turns into a
nightmare in the Scottishwilderness, directed and written
by Neil Marshall.
I knew nothing about this moviegoing in.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Do you know Neil Marshall?
Have you ever seen the Descent?
No, you've never seen theDescent.
I don't think so it's one ofthe best horror movies.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
All of his movies are horrors.
That looks like from his IMBD.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
No, he's a great.
This is early on in his career,because I'm pretty sure he did
this and went straight to theDescent.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
The Descent came out.
Oh no, part 2 came out in 2009.
Sorry, I can tell 90% of hisbudget went towards the editing.
Yeah, I texted you.
I'm having a seizure watchingthis because but the actual
practical effects though too.
Yeah, we'll talk about theproduct, because that was my

(53:11):
favorite thing about it, butlike just editing it almost
looked like it was shot on aniphone.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I like the fact that, like I was kind of taken back
by how grainy and how uh it wasvery great.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
That's why I said iphone, but I think it added but
it's kind of weird, it was like4k, but in grainy like, because
like the movements looked greatlike on screen cinematically
but it was like it was likealmost like they had a filter on
over it the entire movie.
It was kind of odd.
It was hard to get over therebut because of that, like the
first half hour was hard for meto get into yeah but once you

(53:39):
start getting into the action alittle bit more of the plot and
like interesting plot, I meanthis script is not the best
script but it has bones of agreat story.
Yes, and I really appreciate itin this movie and towards the
end it really like okay, I'mgoing to give it a higher rating
a little bit just because ofthe ending.
We didn't do the rating forWolfman, sorry.
One out of ten.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I would say I did enjoy it 6.5.
I'll give it a 6.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
6 out of 10.
Yeah, I did enjoy it.
6.5?
I'll give it a 6 out of 10.
Yeah, it's not a bad film.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Would you want to see a sequel?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
No, I don't need a sequel.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
No, do you think it will be a big Halloween costume?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
No, me neither.
I think they're going to haveproblems trying to get these
universal monsters off theground.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I feel like which is wild, wild.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Scary movie's coming back next year.
I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, I need to.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I didn't even fucking think about that.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I bet you like.
I wonder if they'll just sprucethis Wolfman.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I would Like is it Anna Faris coming back?
Like are the Well the?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
other chick is coming back, I heard, but they need
Anna Faris.
I know I feel like if the othergirl's coming back, she'll
probably come back too.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I don't think nothing's been officially
announced yet, though?
No, because it's not going tobe the same without her.
She's the only character in allof them, right?
They're so fucking funny yeah.
They are so funny, like the onewhere she's in the grudge house
and it's offensive and I feelbad for laughing.
But she's talking to the littleghost cat guy or ghost cat kid

(55:07):
and she's just like mitsubishihonda, like it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
You said that I was laughing about it this morning
just in the shower randomly it'sa good bit cracks me up every
time sanada teriyaki samuraiit's stupid.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I feel like I shouldn't laugh, but hey but uh,
let's go back to this movie.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I mean the outside shots, like when they come into
the helicopter or anything likethat.
The woods itself looks like inthe back of a neighborhood are
you familiar with any of theactors though?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
no not that I recognize.
So one of the guys has been adoctor on gray's anatomy for a
fucking minute is that sean?
No, that was uh, ke McKidd,kevin McKidd.
He's been on Grey's Anatomy fordamn near 10-15 years.
At this point it feels like asuh, dr Owen Hunt, the other guy,
the guy Pete Pertwee, pertwee,sean, sean Pertwee, sean Pertwee

(55:59):
.
It plays Alfred in Gotham.
Have you ever seen Gotham?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about thatso that's.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I liked him in that he's a good military kind of
style guy, Because even inGotham that version of Alfred
was very, very rough and tumble.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Military background and everything, yeah, and
they're both really good actors.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
What do you think?
The point of this movie, though, was made in southern Scotland.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I think that you get out this is like an american
movie.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Right, it's not like it was overseas, it was shot
overseas, I mean it was shotoverseas, but it didn't really
wasn't over like a foreign movie.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
From what I understand, it was released in
theaters in across the pond but,like over here, it got a
streaming release okay um, Ithink it did pretty well over
there, but yeah, um, I thinkthat that kind of stuff's a hard
sell for an American audience.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I mean this movie on IMBD has a 6.8 out of 10, which
is pretty decent.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But, it's a cult movie now it didn't get a lot of
big buzz until after the fact.
After the fact that he did theDescent, which is one of the
best cave horror movies of alltime.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I gotta check that out now.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
It's good.
Are you claustrophobic?
No, but I might be after thatmovie yeah, you might be after
that Some of it's tough.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
But you mentioned practicality earlier.
I mean Wolfman had a lot ofpractical effects on it too,
like the makeup and everythinglike that.
This one took it to wholenother level, like obviously the
wolf people were practical butlike the guts coming out and
everything fun bits, man likethis is my kind of horror movie
where it's very gory it's action.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
It's gore, but the gore is funny in a lot of ways
too.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
You know they're they're literally shoving them
back in oh yeah, the guts it'slike okay, even if you sew them
up, he's still probably gothella infections.
Now.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
There's a bit where the dog that they find is just
trying to play tug of war withhis intestines too.
That's funny.
It's funny.
It's my style of horror movie,where it's action, it's comedy,
it's really good.
Practical effects the reasonwhy I love this movie is because
of the werewolf design too.
Yeah, these things are fuckingbig and these things are fucking

(58:10):
well, you know what the thedirector did?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
he hired dancers instead of stunt people to play
them, to make them more likelight on their feet and no shit,
I didn't know.
Yeah, that's kind of makes sense, though yeah, um, but I mean,
this film was very, very shot,dark too, and most of it has to
do with a practical, because Idon't think they can move every
single muscle in their face, no,and all they could probably do
is open their mouth and closetheir mouths, really.

(58:33):
So that's why they did simpleshots.
All of the action shots arevery fast and quick, so you
can't pick up on any mistakeswith them.
That's why I said it's heavy onediting.
There's a really good fightscene, though, towards the end,
between one of the guys and awerewolf, where he's just like

(58:54):
he gets a good upper hand on thewerewolf at this point, like
they're, they're desperate andlike because he had guns in the
beginning, I think they end upfighting with pots and pans.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah like that's.
You know this is a very muchlike, in the same vein of like
the wolfman.
This is kind of like a homeinvasion movie where they're
under siege, they have to likestay the night and try to
survive.
When it's revealed that thiswerewolf, the, this clan of
werewolves, is a family thatowns the house and everything I
actually like that that there'smultiple werewolves in this one

(59:20):
yeah, versus the one because,like it's more of a threat.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Oh yeah yeah, there's like there's almost like, oh
shit, how they can get out ofthis.
You know it's very alert, theydon't.
No, not, not all of thembecause that doesn't kevin
mckinnon live most positive hedoes well, I don't know, maybe
because he's the guy, that um.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
At the end of the movie there's a um because you
remember, they're talking aboutthe football game throughout the
entire movie, yeah, and they'relike wanting to know the sports
and everything and like I thinkone of the final shots is a
newspaper in the front page is atop page, is the results of the
game that they were talkingabout.
Underneath it there's a smalllittle blurb like werewolves ate

(59:57):
my platoon.
It's his story and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
One of the plot points of this movie is that
there's a betrayal in this movie.
I kind of wish that Wolfman hada bit of betrayal, like maybe
that guy survived, who theyfound, and he leads people to
his dad to feed him.
I was wondering about like yeahlike the Wolfman.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Very simple plot compared to what this one is.
Very, very simple, yeah, and Ithink for the most part it works
for the Wolfman, but rightthough like this.
For the most part it works forthe wolf man, but right though,
like this, one has that elementof betrayal.
There's the uh, military guythat you know was training kevin
mckinnon in the beginning andthey eventually find out that
there was a black ops team thatwas sent to kind of hunt and

(01:00:39):
retrieve a werewolf for thatkind of extraction and study it
and everything right.
That guy ends up gettinginfected too and starts to turn
the fucking, the design, thoughthese things are hulking beasts
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I mean, just their legs alone were incredible
because they're very muscular ohyeah the hair everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I mean it looks more wolf than man, that looks like
we talked about the differencesin terms of, like the viral
nature and the.
I feel like for this version,this is much more supernatural
in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, I could see that they even talk about how do
you feel about realizing myths.
Their myths are real, orsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Who would you give this one out of 10?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I fucking love this movie.
I would say probably 8, 9, 8.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
8.
I would say 8.
Greg.
Oh my goodness, this is a goodforeign flick.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
It is on shutter, it's streaming well, it's also
2002 too yeah, but like it's agood horror flick, it's on
shutter, it's streaming, it'seasily available to watch.
It's got a really good sense ofhumor throughout all of it I
think I watched this on peacock,so it's on peacock too there's
a bit of like of a running bitwhere they realize that
polaroids like the flash stunsand everything, and there,
towards the end, you see thefucking polaroid pictures of all

(01:01:50):
that, like it's made by afilmmaker and a director that is
very early on in his career.
I could tell that, and it'ssuper cool though, because, like
once you, if you were to go andwatch his filmography after the
fact, you see these littlethrow like through lines where
you can see him in that stylethat's in.
This, apply to the descent too.

(01:02:12):
You know, it's interesting.
I liked it, it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I would give it a 6.5 out of 10, though really, you
like, you like, wolf, wait, Igive six for the wolfman, 6.5
for this one really yeah, that'sa bummer this one's fun though
it's, it is fun, it's ridiculousand it's fun, but it's very
british too, which I like verybritish.
I like that a lot, though,because, like these guys, that's
why I was questioning if it wasa foreign film or not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, these, these actors, though, like it is very
different to see a group ofbritish like english actors and
what their version of militarylooks like and what their
version of what a soldier shouldlook like.
Should look like versusAmerican yeah like if we were to
have this movie now but set itin like, let's say, the

(01:02:59):
Appalachians or whatever, thatmilitary team would all be
fucking CW, fuck boys, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
But for real, though, like it would be the prettiest
guys on the block.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
You know, like they don't cast military men that
look like military men anymoreoh I thousand percent agree with
that.
Like you look at predator, forexample, you know, like those
guys weren't necessarily themost conventionally attractive,
you know, but they were allfucking built like they looked
like but then you go to like togi joe was like channing tatum
and stuff like that.
Yes, I don't want to.
I feel bad saying that.

(01:03:31):
Like the guys in predator lookslike men, yeah, like men.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Soldiers versus just different generation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah yeah, you're right, you're right.
That's a good point, though,too, because, like the guys in
gi joe or the guys that are inthese action movies now, they
look like actors, they look likeaction stars.
They don't look like thesegruff military men.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I mean I would like to see that make a comeback
, a little bit Like they hiredreal people Like Danny Trejo.
He was a real Mexican gangsterand they threw him in the movie.
It was real practical.
It's unheard of now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, no, like Trejo, that's unheard of now.
Yeah, no, like.
Uh, trejo for trejo's a greatexample.
Yeah, because trejo is got thathistory that informs every
character that he plays.
Yeah, but it's also, you know,he's got the acting background
and he's funny too, like he's acool guy, he's charismatic
enough now he's fucking beatingpeople up now well, like, uh he
like, I've always wanted to trythose tacos that you never tried

(01:04:25):
them?
yeah, uh, I, I know that he doesdo food trucks and there are
restaurants out in I want to sayLA and Florida, right, I?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
thought it was LA and Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I bet those tacos are damn good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I'm interested and I'm surprised he hasn't came out
with tequila.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Honestly, just because you can't come out with
tequila, doesn't mean you should.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I'm a sucker.
I mean, if a celebrity isattached to it, I'll probably
buy it just for the celebritylike cluny timothy shemley's has
spoken for a cologne right now.
I would buy it just for that,honestly you are such a sheep.
You are such a sheep it's noteven his cologne he's.
It's a cologne's alreadyestablished.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
He just spoke from right now oh, actor likes
something, I would buy it too,oh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I have a friend who was a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
You are the sucker they talk about in all those
board meetings.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I have a friend who, like Sidney Sini's a spokesman
for Sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Bob, yeah, the soap, he buys it just for her.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I was like Like she's getting a cut of the prophet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Well, like she's gonna come to his house and like
you smell good like oh, you'veheard my call.
Yeah, how'd you know this wouldsummon me I don't know where
the next monster movie's comingout, really there's like I like
monster movies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Yeah, they're cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I kind of want to go back and watch invisible man now
, yeah, well, actually, you know, I'm starting to do a thing new
thing where I recommend moviestowards the end, and invisible
man was the only one I couldthink of for this movie the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Invisible man works well because, like I said again,
there's not a big-name actressin there or actor.
They could have done what theycould have and casted a big-name
star in the role of theInvisible man and just been like
Ha ha, you don't even fuckingsee him throughout the entire
thing.
I think they're probably goingto do with downy, with dr doom,
you know well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
More so like silver surfer I would say, because I
think silver surfer's a femalein that one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, yeah uh, but like for the invisible we've
never seen a wolf female, wolfman, so that'd be interesting
that's true.
That's true.
Uh, the invisible man works.
So because it modernizes thestory, they make it a
technological kind of thing.
Yeah, there's, it's theInvisible Man's fucking scary.
It is very scary and it workswith the way that you know the

(01:06:34):
camera lingers on these likeempty spaces and you are put in
the actress's mind of being likeoh shit, is there something
there that I don't see?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
You're always going to be looking over your shoulder
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I actually think the nextmonster movie is Frankenstein
with Frank.
It's a very famous actor, notthe actor.
Director.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I don't like.
I want to see them do some ofthese more like universal style
horror movies.
I think that there's somethingto be done with them.
I want to see them update theidea of the creature from the
Black Lagoon.
That is one of the classic bigones, but they don't talk about
that one.
I think the closest that theycome to something along those

(01:07:18):
lines.
I don't even think it'suniversal, but the Shape of
Water.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Oh, I forgot about that one.
Isn't that more of a romanticone too?

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It is, but I also in some ways I think the creature
from the black lagoon wasromantic too.
I don't think I've ever seenthat.
I don't think I have either,but I do think there is an
element of that kind of ideatowards like this thing being
something that could be loved orneeds some, like it's looking
for some sort of connection thatit can't get yeah I'm gonna
have to look that up though now,when we tie in like monster,

(01:07:49):
say monster movies, would youtie in like king kong and
godzilla and all that too?
uh, those are kaiju movies.
Okay, yeah, kaiju is thejapanese term for like white
godzilla, is you know, a big,giant fucking thing.
Break it like really the likething, like a city destroying
thing yeah, I think they'recoming out with a Godzilla minus
one sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I still haven't seen those.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
That's a good one.
Like I'm not a big Godzilla guy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Well, that one's pretty good.
I mean, it's like an animefilmed in real life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I know this sounds bad, but like the Godzilla with
Matthew Broderick, might be oneof my favorite Guilty Pleasure
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
I forgot about that.
That was like the first one,right yeah, in the franchise
with brian cranston too.
And all that, no, no, nomatthew bro, I don't know if
I've seen that one, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
It's the one in something like the 90s and shit
like oh no, I definitely, younever.
It was one of.
It was the first big likeamericanized version of godzilla
since the japanese ones.
It's a real bad movie don't getme wrong, it's a bad movie, but
it's also bad in a good way,was it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
better than his Inspector Gadget.
I fucking hated that movie.
I hated Inspector Gadget.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Inspector Gadget was one of those ones that got like
a ton of fucking cuts to it too,because I remember seeing that
and there would be like clips inthat movie where Inspector
Gadget flashes back to thingsthat like didn't happen in the
movie.
Yeah, but that one, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
At the end of the episode.
Last thing we're going to talkabout what movies are you
looking forward to coming outthis year?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Oh, God, I've been off that kind of stuff.
I know that there are.
What's the?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Rami Malek has a new movie come out that I'm very,
very interested in.
His wife gets they both workfor the government, but his wife
gets I think it was a planecrash gets killed or something
like that and people killed herand he, as he's a normal guy,
he's never killed anyone in hislife.
Lawrence finch lawrencefishburne born is in that movie
too.
He like, uh, rami, wants to goand kill the people who kill
them, but lawrence is like theguy who trained him how to do it

(01:09:44):
.
He's like you're not a killer,you can't do what I do no and
it's, it's looks good as fuck.
I'm just not doing it justicedescribing it, but it looks
pretty good okay but and uh, Ididn't want to see companion.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I know that was coming out.
It's a great movie.
I would watch that again Ican't think of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Jack quaid has another movie coming out next
month, I think, um uh, nova came, nova came.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, where he's?
Uh, I can't feel pain.
It looks more funny than good,I'm not a big Jack Quaid guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I'm sold on him.
Were you a big.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Dennis Quaid.
Huh, were you a big DennisQuaid, or yeah, dennis Quaid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I like Dennis Quaid in the Substance.
He was great in the Substancethat was a great role for him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah, he did great in his role.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
He had fun in that, um, but like the Jack Quaid, I
wasn't really a big boys fan, tobe honest.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
A lot of that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Not anymore.
Ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Uh, real funny.
Um, that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Proud of that, yeah, yeah, um, the uh, yeah, a lot of
that stuff just seems likeshock for the sake of shock Plus
like they're weird like overlypolitical leanings of some of
that stuff yeah, but that's alsolike one of those shows that's
just trending at the time, likeI don't think it's gonna last,
like forever?
I hope not, because I think Ilike, I mean they're on their
last season but, like I thinkthey have a couple spinoffs I

(01:10:56):
don't want spinoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Stop, stop trying to spin off shit.
Like give me new ideas.
I don't care what some fuckingside character is doing in a
show that I don't evenparticularly care for.
That's a good point.
But you see, the problem is,all of that shit just inflates
the cost of streaming as a whole.
Yeah, because I would love tobe able to stream on a service

(01:11:19):
that does not have its ownoriginal content.
Because you have to go andthink about this, because
Netflix they probably up theirprices left and right, thinking
that Stranger Things, that's ourshow.
There was a lot of big-nameNetflix shows that they put a
lot, they threw a lot of fuckingmoney into that bombed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Well, I don't think any streaming service is
profiting.
No one is making money off ofthese things.
I don't think so either.
I know they're not.
I thinkflix might be the onlything closest so far.
That might be making a problem,but they've been in the game
for like over 10 years now yeah,exactly, so I mean it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I would go back to the dvds if they brought them
back I could see you owning ared box see there's some.
Like every time I see one outin the wild.
Now I try and see if it's stillturned on, because I know for a
point in time like they werejust spitting out free movies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I don't think they're like in business anymore Redbox
.
You know what's coming back.
It's Blockbuster, but in theform of like a nightclub or
something like that.
What, yeah, nightclub or a baror something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I would think it's Blockbuster.
But it's more of a gimmickversus so like in 90s.
I think there is a big marketfor that you know, Because,
let's be honest, like the worldtoday sucks, yeah.
So if you offer people my age,and like maybe your age too,
that chance of a nostalgic kindof spot to go to where it is

(01:12:40):
like that same color scheme as ablockbuster, let's say you know
, they got 90s shit going on onthe walls, they got backstreet
boys playing, yeah I mean as amovie adult guy, that sounds
like a dream job I've alwayslike, even when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I always wanted to work at a video rental store
yeah, and I know that soundssilly and it sounds dumb, but
it's like I love.
You know that, and a comic bookstore would be cool I thought
about that too occasionally, butI'm not that invested in comics
like those guys, like thosepeople work there.
They really like comics.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I I did at one point.
Yeah, I well, I recently wentlike maybe about like fucking
five or six months ago, and Ibought like a couple and it felt
really good to like do thatthing again and like read those
stories.
I miss that kind of time in mylife.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
You still bring it back.
You're never too old for acomic book.
I think those things are Asuper expensive and B like yeah,
they cost like four bucks abook now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Versus.
Like for a story, it usuallywould be like 10 to 12 books
that you have to buy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, and it's real easy to get sucked into having a
big list of shit you're gettingpulled.
Yeah, because like there was atime where I was, like when I
was living with my parents ingriffith, you know, like I was
spending damn near like 80 buckson comics a week but it's all
like new shit yeah I had a blast, though you know like it is a

(01:14:01):
good time when you don't haveany responsibilities and you
just read comic books.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Oh, yeah, yeah, and like I read entirety.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I think I hopped onto the comic book stream and this
is why, like I get on my soapboxabout this shit, Like I liked
that shit before, it was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Oh yeah, a lot of people did I suffered.
I mean not a lot of people, yourealize, a lot more people did
I mean true, I guess, yeah, butalso I suffered for my nerddom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I suffered.
I had people make fun of me forreading comic books, and these
motherfuckers are the first onesin line to go see fucking
Captain America.
That shit pisses me off alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Well, Greg, probably the next time I see you will
probably be at the premiere ofCaptain America 4.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, fuck you, I ain't even playing that game,
thank you so much for coming on,Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
It's been a while since.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I've talked about this movie.
This is awesome.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
I think next episode is the Valentine's Day episode,
so I don't think there's goingto be any new episodes like new
movies, I should say but we'regoing to talk about a couple of
throwback rom.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
She just recently introduced me to a movie.
He's Not Just that Into you.
He's Not that Into you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I think I did watch.
I can't remember who was in it.
It's not Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
It's Bradley Cooper, Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer
Connelly, Justin Long.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
That's who I remember Justin Long, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
There's a good amount of big name ones in there.
I really enjoyed that.
I like the experience of havingher in my life now because I
get to watch some of thesethings.
I don't really necessarilywould go to.
I watched the Vow with RachelMcAdams and Channing Tatum and I
enjoyed that one.
What else?
There was one we watched theFour Christmases one with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Reese Witherspoon yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Reese Witherspoon and Vince Vaughn.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Reese Witherspoon has a prime movie out right now
with Will Ferrell that I heardnot that many good things about,
but I'm still going to give ita shot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I also watched a little bit of the one that we
were talking about.
I kind of fell asleep throughit and probably didn't finish it
.
But the one with Justin Blake,or no, blake Lively and Justin
Baldoni, the Sends With Us.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Oh, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, the Sends With
Us oh you've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I watched like 45 minutes of it and I passed out
it's cliche, very cliche.
I could tell by her name beingLily Bloom.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
And owning a flower shop.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, yeah.
That's when I was like I don'tknow if this it also has that
chick from Parks and Rec.
I went to Marcel Lach shellwith shoes on.
Have you ever seen?

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
that I think I've seen that one you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, that needs to be.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I've never seen that.
And um the what's that robotmovie, the wild robot?
I've never seen that.
Yet you've never seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, jesus christ, I'm gonna watch this you need to
have like a small little, likefamily friendly movie day watch
that I will I watched marcel ata hotel on uh way home, and it
was one of the best movies I'veseen.
Really, though, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I heard enough of a great things about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
That'll be your recommendation for this episode,
then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah, Greg, I kept you way too long but thank you
so much for coming on thepodcast.
It was a great time talking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
I can't wait for you to drop the news when your
podcast is starting, but, likeyou said said you're in between
stages of life right now, sothere's no rushing on it at all.
Give me time but you'llprobably be on the podcast
before then anyway too, becausea lot of good movies coming
through.
Now that we're finally gettingback to the regular schedule
after the strikes and everything, it's going to be an
interesting year with movies, soI'm excited for it right on.

(01:17:21):
Thank you for everyone.
The captain america episoderight after that so uh stay
tuned next week I'll be savingyou, you.

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