March 30, 2022 • 32 mins
Agenda:
- Executive Standup
Takeaways:
- No one eat seafood! Except the office cat, they’re a contractor, so it’s OK
- Everyone create a top 12 list of people they care about and would like the cameras of their devices replace
- Investigate if we can geofence the new augmented reality experience to prevent people from putting couches in the middle of intersections
- Eric - bring in your smart fridge and Nest thermostat to have the cameras replaced but do NOT say you’re bringing in the Nest in front of the Nest
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Ben (00:07):
welcome to this startup is being recorded.
This recording is improvisedfiction.
Similarities between it and thereal world are entirely
intentional.
Now enjoy the recording.
Kate (00:23):
Okay.
Uh, we're recording.
Um, so Eric, wasn't able to makeit today, but we're just going
to do stand up for everyoneelse.
Um, oh, I guess for any newemployees listening, we are set,
we record all of our meetingswhere, you know, an up and
coming couch marketplace thatalso is just helping
(00:43):
revolutionize trade for reallythe whole country and the whole
world, hopefully.
Um, and.
Yeah today, we just need a kit,a couple quick executive up
items, and then, you know,probably a quick in and out, uh,
Um, I'm Kate banshee.
I can start I'm.
Um, the chief of staff to John,um, John will be a topic at, in
(01:07):
what I have to bring up, uh, buthe himself couldn't be here.
He did send me a series oftexts, um, between like one to
four words.
Each that kind of helped fill insome of the gaps, but are not
super helpful.
Matt (01:21):
Hm.
Classic.
Uh, well, I can go next.
I'm matt.yachts.
That's also my website and I'mthe CTO here at Let's try that
one out, I guess.
That's
Kate (01:34):
Is that the
Matt (01:35):
repeated vowel than it would be a
Kate (01:37):
it,
Matt (01:37):
sit.
Calathea (01:39):
Well, you could do like, um, is it a dot over the
Y?
Which one is it to make it long?
Maybe the,
Matt (01:47):
Well, I always think of it as the long bar makes it.
Calathea (01:50):
that's right.
Yes.
Matt (01:53):
but that doesn't really help me.
Cause then I would, then I'd beback to sit and I think, I think
I'll just sit with, it.
Calathea (01:59):
it's
Kate (02:00):
okay.
Calathea (02:01):
Yeah.
Kate (02:01):
Okay.
Calathea (02:02):
Well, I can go.
I'm Kelly I'm the chief creativeczar here at CIT.
Kate (02:09):
yeah.
Um, okay, awesome.
Well, I'll just kick it off.
Um, I hope you all have seen thememos poster on the office and
then I emailed out, uh, We as acompany are no longer eating
seafood.
Um, we, after the whole debaclewith the, um, what was it?
(02:33):
The Amber scent, the
Calathea (02:36):
Amber Green.
Kate (02:37):
Amber grease scent.
Yeah.
And, um, our commitment reallyto use, uh, byproducts from sea
creatures in, in a lot of ourmaterials.
We kind of went through anexercise with John of how to
reconcile this with our companyvalues.
And the way we netted out isthat if the entire company just
(02:57):
doesn't eat seafood anymore,it'll neutralize the impact that
we have on the oceans and theaquatic life.
So that is a new part of ouremployment contracts.
Um,
Calathea (03:11):
I just want to clarify two things.
One.
Does that mean you were notsuccessful in convincing him not
to use Amber grease?
Uh, and two, do you mean inpersonal lives as well for
Matt (03:24):
same, same question.
Very much same.
Kate (03:28):
Yeah.
Um, unfortunately the answer toboth of those is yes, he was
extremely convinced that Ambergrease was, was right for us,
despite all of the samples,which I, I did spray at him at
various points in ourconversation.
Uh, we already kind of have a nofish policy in the office
because of the whole like scentand the microwave thing.
(03:49):
Yeah.
Um, but now it's just no, nofish or seafood period, any.
Matt (03:57):
I CA I feel like this is a dig at me, because I've been
trying to get John to resumewhat used to be very frequent
sushi dinners, where we wouldcatch up and talk about things
and, uh, Somewhatcoincidentally, when I started
as CCO here, he kind of droppedthose.
(04:19):
And, um, I don't know if it'srelated.
I, but I'm, I'm feeling itpersonally.
Um, though I've tried severaltimes to get him to go to some
excellent vegetarian and vegansushi places, avocado and peanut
has all the protein that youneed.
And it's.
Calathea (04:36):
I totally agree.
There are some really great,great places.
Kate (04:41):
I'm going to write some of those down.
We do have a couple of folks onthe support staff who are
pescatarian.
Um, so they're a little worriedabout the fact that we're
cutting out some of their mainsources of protein.
Um, I ha I have a few callsscheduled with their, uh,
nutritionists, which I'm alittle
Matt (05:00):
because
Kate (05:00):
nervous about.
Matt (05:01):
you can get that back with like pea proteins and some other
plant proteins, but, uh, it'sthe oils.
It's the fatty acids, um, likethe omega threes and omega
sixes.
That's, that's hard to replace.
Calathea (05:16):
Yeah.
This is, there are definitelysolutions.
I mean, 95% of the creative teamare vegetarian.
Um, with that last one personbeing on this Ducker Berg method
of only eating, you know,animals or fish that he's
personally killed.
Um, I think nutritionally, wecan definitely make that work.
(05:39):
Um, I would challenge John onthe greater environmental impact
that, switching from fish toother land-based sources might
be, uh, a worse impact on theplanet.
You know,
Kate (05:55):
Yeah, I mean, he.
Matt (05:56):
moving it around.
Uh, the fact that there isillegal whale hunting involved
in getting the Amber grease forthe
Kate (06:05):
Yeah.
Matt (06:06):
I don't know that I like we would have to run our own
fisheries and create more sealife.
I don't think cutting.
There's no amount of cutting wecould do to make up for whaling
involved.
that make.
Calathea (06:21):
wheels are yeah.
And wheels have a great carbonstorage capture.
So they're, I mean, this is, uh,this isn't just like killing of
a life it's killing of apotential climate change
solution.
Um, I I'm just, you know, again,We'll also just bring up the
illegality part of this and thedifficulty in inquiring, Amber
(06:44):
gree.
Um,
Kate (06:45):
know.
Calathea (06:47):
tried on the creative team to go with just grieve that
naturally washed up on shores.
Um,
Kate (06:54):
Okay.
Calathea (06:56):
that's very limited.
and.
The nefarious people we have togo with to get a secondary
source is it's just anundesirable position to put our
company in, especially a companywith a history.
And I'm sorry to bring this upyet.
Again, of killing bald Eagles.
Kate (07:18):
I know God, I feel like our, our track record and
environmentalist and a dangerousspecies to just like going down
the drain.
Um, We're couch marketplacesshouldn't have anything to do
with us, but somehow we are tiedto the ocean.
Matt (07:36):
great job.
Uh Califia with the messaging sofar that has kept a lot of that
conversation out of it.
I mean, You know, people like tobring it up on social media.
about the environmental impactof blah, blah, blah, of what
sits doing and, um, paying folksto come by and say, this is
about couches.
(07:56):
Why are we talking about theenvironment?
Um, has been very.
Calathea (08:00):
Yeah.
I mean, we've, we've done asgood as we can, um, doing some
very public, uh, you know,environmental projects and also
basically bullying anybody whobrings up the impact, um, to
submission.
Kate (08:22):
Okay, well, I'll just put this out there.
I think, you know, we added theinformation about not eating
seafood to the contract, butit's really frankly,
unenforceable based on what ourlawyers have told us after
spending about seven minutes onthe topic.
Um, so, so maybe we just kind ofput it out there.
(08:44):
Okay.
Tell John it's there, but wedon't have to necessarily like
proclaim it as a, as a CITcompany value.
Very often.
Calathea (08:56):
totally agree less.
I just want to just be on therecord that I am less concerned
about eating fish, again, beingvegan and on a team that are
largely vegan and vegetarian andmore concerned about the.
Hoops that we are currentlyjumping through and, um, the
international poachers that, uh,we now have on speed dial to
(09:20):
obtain Amber Greece.
Matt (09:24):
I think we're all in agreement on this one.
Kate (09:26):
Yeah.
It's bad.
Calathea (09:28):
Okay.
I just, we're all on recordhere.
Um, we can move on, um, youknow,
Kate (09:36):
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, we'll keep working on it.
Any who wants to go next andstand up?
Uh, hopefully it's not asterrible of an update as much.
Matt (09:46):
uh, I can go next.
Um, uh, just an update,honestly, pretty quick.
Probably, um, camera, camera,replacements, uh, pretty much
wrapped up throughout thefacility.
Um, Califia thanks for havingall your team combined with, uh,
all the various devices, uh, andthanks for your patience.
Um, getting that replacementglass for a lot of those things,
(10:08):
uh, it's tough apple products,you know, they're not made to be
taken apart, um,
Kate (10:13):
Right.
Matt (10:14):
removed and mostly replaced the cameras, uh, in a
lot of those devices.
I would say we're about 95% donehere, uh, in the office.
The bad news is that contacttracing, uh, has.
Really tough.
So, um, yeah, the, the, we watchapp, uh, when it installs
itself, uh, it has you agree toalso preemptively install it on
(10:39):
device you come across that it'sable to.
Um, yeah, so we've been tryingto.
Track down everybody that, uh,everybody was in contact with
during that week of testing, uh,before we started locking this
down and, um, that's, that'sgetting to be a lot of work for
my team.
Maybe folks should make apriority list, you know, like
(11:00):
maybe let's keep it to a dozenpeople who you really care
about, uh, whose wellbeing isimportant to you their opinion
of you is important to you andlimit it to like that.
Cause at some point, you know,we're, uh, We're not You know,
this isn't our software worm.
We didn't create it.
We just, uh, just were patientzero for it.
Calathea (11:25):
I would like to say too on our end that, um, as you
know, both John and I went toseveral high profile parties,
uh, during the time in which weare that free trial and our team
is working on.
Providing very, very generousinfluencer packages to most of
those people.
(11:46):
Um, I mean, honestly they havevery little requirements to
actually promote us.
We're basically higher payingthem hush money, but, um, it's,
it's what we're doing to justmake sure that, we don't have
any blow back, uh, from some ofthe high profile people.
Kate (12:03):
Though.
I did not.
I mean, I know we probablyshouldn't be happy about this,
but like, it was kind of cool towatch those parties.
Like, I didn't know, theKardashians had tigers and that
you got to like pet them.
We didn't tell us about that.
Calathea (12:23):
Yeah, I mean, that tiger, um, first was, was not as
nice as it seemed.
And second was.
Like you don't have smell ofvision through the camera that
tiger was
Matt (12:37):
Thank goodness.
Calathea (12:37):
smelly and you
Kate (12:39):
wow.
Calathea (12:41):
yeah.
It's
Matt (12:42):
thought about that.
I just assumed they would smelllike, like a cat, but more.
Calathea (12:48):
yeah, but imagine a cat, but more like magnified.
I
Matt (12:53):
I don't know.
I mean, if it's like a nice cat,I got a good smell.
Can get in there a little belly
Calathea (13:01):
Yeah, tigers they
Matt (13:03):
smell like cozy.
Kate (13:05):
well, speaking of which Matt, like I, the office cat
spends a lot of time in youroffice and the cleaning lady.
Actually specifically asked meif there's a way that we could
like distribute it a little bitbecause the cat smell just is
frankly not coming out at thispoint.
Matt (13:21):
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what to doit, it likes me.
I mean, I can, I can try andshoo it away, but it, it follows
me pretty much wherever.
Right.
Kate (13:32):
well, I, I think it's cause you always keep anchovies
on you and you feed it to them.
And I just, that's also anothersmell from.
Matt (13:40):
yeah, I'm not going to have those anchovies anymore.
Uh,
Kate (13:43):
Right.
Matt (13:44):
know, there
Kate (13:44):
That's true.
Matt (13:45):
option.
Um, maybe that'll take care ofit.
Kate (13:49):
Okay.
Two birds with one stone.
Um,
Matt (13:52):
I just, I don't, I don't want anyone to be or jealous if
the cat continues to like me,even after the anchovies.
Kate (14:02):
I think we understand the cat has its own preferences.
Um, we've learned at this pointthat.
Matt (14:06):
cat and an official employee.
Can the cat not have seafoodnow?
That's potentially an
Kate (14:12):
Oh, no.
Matt (14:14):
like not all cats can eat all.
Kate (14:17):
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Um, I'll check their records.
I think there are contractor,which probably means that those
same benefits and restrictionsdon't apply.
Matt (14:28):
Okay.
Kate (14:30):
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, um, Thank you for theupdate, Matt, I'm very excited
to get, um, some of my devicesback with working cameras, uh,
that I don't
Matt (14:41):
yeah.
I wanted
Kate (14:41):
have to worry about.
Matt (14:43):
It's been hard to get replacement parts for some of
these.
Um, are you really still usingthis, uh, 2003 iMac that you
brought in?
Kate (14:53):
yeah, no, it works great.
I mean the newer IMAX they haveso locked down that you can't
add extra, like hard drives anddifferent things to it.
Matt (15:02):
Yeah,
Kate (15:02):
one's really, um, well, personalized to me
Matt (15:06):
Okay.
It's just, um, yeah, I mean, itcan't, it can't be a good
experience for you using that todo much.
Kate (15:14):
I mean, it gives me time to multitask, right?
Like I have, I have the iMac, Ihave my Samsung S3.
Um, and between those two, likeI usually have something to do
at most.
Matt (15:28):
Wow.
Okay.
Well, I was going to offer yousome replacement upgrades
because in some cases it'scheaper just to give you a new
phone, for example, than to tryand find replacement parts for
another.
But, uh, if you're, if you'rededicated to it, I will.
You.
Kate (15:45):
Yeah.
I mean, it's just that therecycling programs for Samsungs
are not great.
I just don't know if I couldlive with myself, knowing that
that's just going into a dump,potentially leaking into water
sources, hurting children.
I don't, I think about thatsometimes at night and I don't
think I want that on my moralconscience
Matt (16:07):
yeah.
Fair enough.
Kate (16:11):
anyway.
Matt (16:12):
Uh, that reminds me of Califia.
Um, for, for your team membersthat asked we did get the new
iPad pros in and, um, we have,uh, sent away their, uh, old
additions for recycling.
Kate (16:27):
What's recycling program.
Did you use.
Matt (16:30):
Um, it's it's the apple.
Calathea (16:33):
okay.
Um, that's uh, good to know.
I think, you know, some, acouple of our members enjoy
those vintage apple products.
So it might be a
Matt (16:45):
oh yeah.
Oh no, no, no.
We flagged, we flagged those,um, believe me, uh, my team,
developed a whole program makesure everybody's device came
back to the exact person.
Um, but there were a couple ofrequests, uh, for, for new ones.
So, uh, we just went ahead anddid the upgrade if anybody for
it?
Calathea (17:06):
uh, that came out of your budget.
Matt (17:10):
Yeah.
I mean, I figure a lot of thisone is on us, uh, for letting
folks install the watch app.
So yeah, we're, we're justeating that, um, make, do with
our server stack as it is.
Calathea (17:26):
well, I'm I will any sort of flack that you get from
the creative team for takingaway some of their, um, old pros
as they would call them.
Um, I'm happy to, be at thefront of the.
Um, and I'm sure they'll lovethe new with.
Um, I can give an update on ourend.
(17:48):
Uh, I'm so sorry, Eric can'tjoin us today because, uh,
wanted to announce that we haverolled out our new augmented
reality, uh, couch feature thathas
Matt (17:59):
oh,
Calathea (18:01):
Popular, uh, usage.
Um, I, as you know, it, itallows people to see how our
couches might look their space.
And, uh, it's been really greaton social media.
People are a look at couchesthat they probably reasonably
couldn't afford to buy and, alook at how that fits.
It's really nice aspirational,uh, piece with them.
Kate (18:24):
Yeah.
Calathea (18:24):
we were happy with it.
Kate (18:27):
Nice.
Matt (18:28):
I
Kate (18:29):
Um,
Matt (18:29):
want to ask, um, is, are people using the adventure mode?
Calathea (18:35):
yes.
So many people are using theadventure road.
Uh, yeah, it, it is exciting towatch them, uh, be able to
basically create like a little,uh, couch, you know, video game,
board game on their wall.
It's it's been so many.
Matt (18:55):
awesome.
Yeah, I've, I've been some of myfavorite tabletop gaming
streamers, uh, get involved inthis.
Um, I think Califia.
I sent you a list of names, uh,to, to contact on Twitch.
Uh, I don't, I don't, you know,I definitely don't want to tell
you how to do your job.
I just think, I think it wouldbe really cool to see them.
Calathea (19:17):
I we've definitely reached out with, to some of
the.
Matt (19:21):
That's.
Calathea (19:21):
You know.
Yeah.
I expect that we'll be able tosee it.
I also enjoy that, that feature.
You can add Ella, like newcouches to that game by going
out into the wild.
So it's been very cool to watchour users really expand their
thinking and be able to see howour couches might look and
(19:41):
parks.
Um, and you know, public spacesit's led to people actually
delivering couches to.
All over the country, which isactually we've, we're getting
some blow back, but what part?
Couldn't use a good couch.
Matt (20:00):
Yeah, a lot of municipalities have really cut
back on seating as a way ofpreventing homeless people from
setting up, you know, places tostay.
And I think that.
Kate (20:10):
Great.
Matt (20:11):
It's a pretty awful civic policy, honestly like houseless
individuals are as much acommunity member as anybody
else.
So.
Calathea (20:20):
I totally agree with you, man.
I mean, I am totally against,um, antagonistic architecture
and, know, designs like that.
I'm You know, um, a couch forthe people or some sort of
campaign might be next of, know,this is a new marketing
opportunity.
Like we, if we have saturatedthe couch in home situation, you
(20:45):
know, where can couches go next?
Kate (20:48):
true.
Um, I will say that we're havinga few issues.
I mean, this is, this is kindalike early days of Pokemon go,
right.
Everyone's just walking aroundwith their phones in front of
them.
Not really looking where they'regoing.
Okay.
And there've been a few casesof, of buses running into people
(21:10):
with couches who were trying todeliver them to parks, uh, or
just like playing the game inthe middle of traffic.
Um, I guess, like for instance,in New York, there's not a lot
of street space to put a couch,so people tend to try to go
towards the middle of the road.
Um, so I guess I'm justwondering if there was a
(21:31):
complete, we could adapt this.
Okay.
It doesn't work outside or atleast
Matt (21:38):
partner with, you know, like a.
I guess Uber and Lyft areprobably more car than sized,
moving vehicle companies.
Maybe maybe we could bring ourown logistics team into this.
Uh, be great to have couchessent through our system and, you
(21:59):
know, get to pay the overhead ofgoing to the warehouse and
getting put back out on thetruck.
then people don't have to try tomove them to them.
Calathea (22:07):
Yeah, this could also, you know, we could work with
municipalities, like bird doesto, to put like geo restrictions
on where people can delivercouches to, you know, instance,
you know, the middle ofintersections though, if you
guys saw the four intersectioncouch, I mean, it created just
this beautiful little greenspace at a busy intersection and
(22:30):
Boston and I mean, it was.
Well, if a bunch of Bostoniansyelling at you and cursing at
you while you have funded aninflatable pool is your style.
Which who
Kate (22:43):
yeah.
Calathea (22:44):
love that.
I
Matt (22:45):
Yeah.
Calathea (22:46):
that was so good.
Kate (22:49):
And frankly, it was amazing.
I mean, it's, it's, it's March,right.
And it's so cold there and theyjust continued heating it with
that fire, you know?
And I mean, as we learned,right, like fires do melt,
inflatable pools.
So not like the greatesthomemade hot tub situation, but,
uh, yeah, I, I just, is thatreally the kind of PR.
Calathea (23:13):
I don't know.
I mean, it definitely.
It increased couch sales, youknow,
Matt (23:18):
Yeah.
Calathea (23:18):
that fire melted the pool, but not our couches, which
is great, you know, especiallyafter some of the fire risk
Kate (23:26):
Yeah,
Matt (23:27):
Yup.
Calathea (23:28):
in the past.
Kate (23:30):
we've worked hard to make all of our couches absolutely
fireproof, um, quite theopposite of what they were
actually a few, a few monthsago.
Calathea (23:38):
I mean, are there challenges in this new.
Yes, but is it redefining wherecouches can go and aren't we
about redefining marketplaces?
Kate (23:49):
True.
True speaking, speaking ofwhich, um, you know, this series
a is coming soon and I reallythink we need to put more time
into thinking about what's next.
Matt (24:04):
Yeah.
Kate (24:04):
Couches have, have really been a great, uh, cornerstone
for us.
Um, but we're about more thanjust couches.
And I think this extra influx ofcapital will give us the chance
to do more
Matt (24:19):
I can't wait for us to talk about this on the yacht.
Uh, cause cause we're taking abig vacation, right?
Like we're we're doing the fullmonth.
Calathea (24:30):
Yeah.
Matt (24:32):
Great.
Kate (24:32):
sort of.
Well, I mean, I know we saidlike a month long sabbatical
would probably be built into theseries a but there have been
some negotiations.
Um, since that there will, itwill definitely be a couple of
days at minimum
Matt (24:50):
uh,
Calathea (24:50):
A
Matt (24:51):
that's.
That's like we get, we get oneof those every week.
It's called the weekend.
Kate (24:56):
three.
I, I think we can definitely getthrough.
Calathea (25:00):
We need way more time for
Matt (25:02):
Yeah.
Calathea (25:02):
then in three days,
Matt (25:04):
the series a is, is not just like an influx of cash.
It's a leveling up of ourcompany.
It's a leveling up of ouridentity and we need a break.
We need a complete, divorce fromthe people we are now from the
company we are now.
And the only way to do that isthrough an intensive lavish
(25:25):
experience on.
Will we be working there?
Yes.
Somewhat.
Like we're going to talk aboutthe future of the company, but
we also need to be able to getthree square meals a day from
the dining hall to enjoy latenight karaoke, lounge, singing
to swim, uh, and uh, mostimportantly, uh, ride in the
waterpark tubes on top of theship to take day trips, uh, in
(25:48):
places that require extravaccinations, like all of that
is going to help us become thecompany we are now.
Calathea (25:55):
And if I were to just say, you know, to the core of my
being a belief that I have isthat things get worked out on
boats.
And if we want these things tobe worked out, we need a boat.
Kate (26:11):
and I love the idea of this multi-tiered boat, um, that
can sail all around the countryor world really.
But, I mean, we have operations,we have to like, keep the
business running during thattime we're going to, we're going
to get, be getting all ofFacebook's traffic, right.
(26:31):
Then like, what if things break?
And, and I also like, I mean,you mentioned divorcing
ourselves.
I just, I don't know that Icould go through that again.
Matt (26:45):
it's just a metaphorical thing, Kate.
We leave behind the people thatwe are in order to become the
people that we, we will be.
look, we're
Kate (26:54):
Okay.
So we don't have to have likecustody issues.
We're not going to go throughlike custody battles for, for
our previous personalitiesaspects.
Matt (27:03):
no, I don't why.
Well, I mean, there's, there'sthe Bugsby thing, but I didn't
think we wanted to,
Kate (27:12):
I don't think you want to bring that up either.
Um,
Matt (27:14):
Califia.
Calathea (27:16):
know it's okay.
Um, yeah, I don't, I, don't havethe mental capacity.
I mean, we just went through areally rough branding exercise.
is, that is take it all byAngela mental energy.
So have I forgotten and, um, usestrategies to forget about this
custody battle a hundredpercent.
(27:36):
Um, bug speeds.
Loss in Iowa really has changedhim as a mascot.
And, um, Nope, Nope, Nope.
I just don't have the brainspace to,
Matt (27:48):
Yeah.
Okay.
I
Kate (27:51):
Yeah,
Matt (27:51):
want to, one more thing about, about the boat.
Okay.
Um, it's it's not forever.
We're not bringing the entirecompany.
Okay.
Everybody.
We'll delegate work to theirteams and leave behind
contingencies.
Uh, know, it and dev we've got,we've got internal docs in
manuals on just about anythingthat could possibly happen short
(28:12):
of a meteor hitting the datacenter.
Uh, and most of the zombieresponse plan will cover that.
So, uh, we'll be fine.
Like we'll, we'll go out forsome weeks.
There's satellite internet onthe boat, uh, and we can handle
anything that comes out.
But, I mean, Kate you've gottrusted lieutenants, right?
(28:33):
If you've got folks that youdelegate.
Kate (28:38):
Trusted delegators.
Um, I mean, that is somethingthat is certainly a idea for me
to pull together.
I just think it's been so hardwhen I've tried to hand over HR
or finance or the relationshipwith legal or some of the
operational pieces or some ofthe support pieces and some of
(28:59):
the, the manufacturing orinnovation or, uh, warehousing
pieces.
So, I mean, Like 50 to 90%coverage from some of those.
Um, but we can, we could thinkabout it.
Maybe a man.
No, not Francis.
Oh, I'll think of someone.
(29:20):
Yeah.
Maybe I'll get an intern.
Matt (29:23):
Okay.
It's just, wouldn't be the sameif you weren't there and we need
you to not be the same.
If that makes sense, we
Kate (29:33):
yeah.
Matt (29:33):
we need to get on this boat and change as a company and
as people.
Kate (29:37):
And I was, I am so looking forward to getting on a boat,
that just sounds like such acool experience, you know?
Um,
Matt (29:45):
this will be your first boat.
Kate (29:47):
yeah, yeah,
Matt (29:49):
awesome.
Calathea (29:50):
wow.
This is your first ever everytime being on this.
Kate (29:54):
Yeah, I mean, there was one time that I went on a canoe
with my grandma, but then shefell off and then, uh, the canoe
broke, uh, and then we had toswim back to shore.
Uh, and that was not great.
Uh, but I assume this will bedifferent
Matt (30:07):
Pet should be.
Calathea (30:08):
hopefully yeah.
Drastically different.
Is your, was your grandma?
K
Kate (30:13):
uh, in general, no, from that experience.
Calathea (30:20):
Okay.
Kate (30:22):
Anyway.
Yeah, I think we've kind ofcovered all the topics we needed
to today.
Um, any final notices otherwiseI'll make, I'll make sure Eric
listens to this.
Calathea (30:37):
no, I mean, I think we're, I mean, I hate to say it
right now, but it seems like,uh, we're at a space where there
are already any fires put out atthe moment.
Matt (30:50):
Yeah.
Oh, that reminds me.
Um, Eric or Eric, when youlistened to this, uh, you do
need to bring in your smartfridge.
We need to replace the camera init.
Also, your nest.
Kate (31:03):
Those have camera's in it.
Matt (31:05):
of, yeah, they have cameras in them.
It's to tell if their occupantsin the house, don't say in front
of your nest thermostat thatyou're bringing it in.
So like don't listen to this outloud, uh, because then they will
know and they have control ofyour nest thermostat.
Kate (31:20):
Gosh,
Matt (31:21):
had just made me.
Kate (31:24):
makes sense.
Um, okay.
Well, then I think we're good.
Uh, just a reminder to everyoneon paper, don't eat fish.
Um, but at home really, youknow, do what you want.
All right.
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Kate (00:23):
Okay.
Uh, we're recording.
Um, so Eric, wasn't able to makeit today, but we're just going
to do stand up for everyoneelse.
Um, oh, I guess for any newemployees listening, we are set,
we record all of our meetingswhere, you know, an up and
coming couch marketplace thatalso is just helping
(00:43):
revolutionize trade for reallythe whole country and the whole
world, hopefully.
Um, and.
Yeah today, we just need a kit,a couple quick executive up
items, and then, you know,probably a quick in and out, uh,
Um, I'm Kate banshee.
I can start I'm.
Um, the chief of staff to John,um, John will be a topic at, in
(01:07):
what I have to bring up, uh, buthe himself couldn't be here.
He did send me a series oftexts, um, between like one to
four words.
Each that kind of helped fill insome of the gaps, but are not
super helpful.
Matt (01:21):
Hm.
Classic.
Uh, well, I can go next.
I'm matt.yachts.
That's also my website and I'mthe CTO here at Let's try that
one out, I guess.
That's
Kate (01:34):
Is that the
Matt (01:35):
repeated vowel than it would be a
Kate (01:37):
it,
Matt (01:37):
sit.
Calathea (01:39):
Well, you could do like, um, is it a dot over the
Y?
Which one is it to make it long?
Maybe the,
Matt (01:47):
Well, I always think of it as the long bar makes it.
Calathea (01:50):
that's right.
Yes.
Matt (01:53):
but that doesn't really help me.
Cause then I would, then I'd beback to sit and I think, I think
I'll just sit with, it.
Calathea (01:59):
it's
Kate (02:00):
okay.
Calathea (02:01):
Yeah.
Kate (02:01):
Okay.
Calathea (02:02):
Well, I can go.
I'm Kelly I'm the chief creativeczar here at CIT.
Kate (02:09):
yeah.
Um, okay, awesome.
Well, I'll just kick it off.
Um, I hope you all have seen thememos poster on the office and
then I emailed out, uh, We as acompany are no longer eating
seafood.
Um, we, after the whole debaclewith the, um, what was it?
(02:33):
The Amber scent, the
Calathea (02:36):
Amber Green.
Kate (02:37):
Amber grease scent.
Yeah.
And, um, our commitment reallyto use, uh, byproducts from sea
creatures in, in a lot of ourmaterials.
We kind of went through anexercise with John of how to
reconcile this with our companyvalues.
And the way we netted out isthat if the entire company just
(02:57):
doesn't eat seafood anymore,it'll neutralize the impact that
we have on the oceans and theaquatic life.
So that is a new part of ouremployment contracts.
Um,
Calathea (03:11):
I just want to clarify two things.
One.
Does that mean you were notsuccessful in convincing him not
to use Amber grease?
Uh, and two, do you mean inpersonal lives as well for
Matt (03:24):
same, same question.
Very much same.
Kate (03:28):
Yeah.
Um, unfortunately the answer toboth of those is yes, he was
extremely convinced that Ambergrease was, was right for us,
despite all of the samples,which I, I did spray at him at
various points in ourconversation.
Uh, we already kind of have a nofish policy in the office
because of the whole like scentand the microwave thing.
(03:49):
Yeah.
Um, but now it's just no, nofish or seafood period, any.
Matt (03:57):
I CA I feel like this is a dig at me, because I've been
trying to get John to resumewhat used to be very frequent
sushi dinners, where we wouldcatch up and talk about things
and, uh, Somewhatcoincidentally, when I started
as CCO here, he kind of droppedthose.
(04:19):
And, um, I don't know if it'srelated.
I, but I'm, I'm feeling itpersonally.
Um, though I've tried severaltimes to get him to go to some
excellent vegetarian and vegansushi places, avocado and peanut
has all the protein that youneed.
And it's.
Calathea (04:36):
I totally agree.
There are some really great,great places.
Kate (04:41):
I'm going to write some of those down.
We do have a couple of folks onthe support staff who are
pescatarian.
Um, so they're a little worriedabout the fact that we're
cutting out some of their mainsources of protein.
Um, I ha I have a few callsscheduled with their, uh,
nutritionists, which I'm alittle
Matt (05:00):
because
Kate (05:00):
nervous about.
Matt (05:01):
you can get that back with like pea proteins and some other
plant proteins, but, uh, it'sthe oils.
It's the fatty acids, um, likethe omega threes and omega
sixes.
That's, that's hard to replace.
Calathea (05:16):
Yeah.
This is, there are definitelysolutions.
I mean, 95% of the creative teamare vegetarian.
Um, with that last one personbeing on this Ducker Berg method
of only eating, you know,animals or fish that he's
personally killed.
Um, I think nutritionally, wecan definitely make that work.
(05:39):
Um, I would challenge John onthe greater environmental impact
that, switching from fish toother land-based sources might
be, uh, a worse impact on theplanet.
You know,
Kate (05:55):
Yeah, I mean, he.
Matt (05:56):
moving it around.
Uh, the fact that there isillegal whale hunting involved
in getting the Amber grease forthe
Kate (06:05):
Yeah.
Matt (06:06):
I don't know that I like we would have to run our own
fisheries and create more sealife.
I don't think cutting.
There's no amount of cutting wecould do to make up for whaling
involved.
that make.
Calathea (06:21):
wheels are yeah.
And wheels have a great carbonstorage capture.
So they're, I mean, this is, uh,this isn't just like killing of
a life it's killing of apotential climate change
solution.
Um, I I'm just, you know, again,We'll also just bring up the
illegality part of this and thedifficulty in inquiring, Amber
(06:44):
gree.
Um,
Kate (06:45):
know.
Calathea (06:47):
tried on the creative team to go with just grieve that
naturally washed up on shores.
Um,
Kate (06:54):
Okay.
Calathea (06:56):
that's very limited.
and.
The nefarious people we have togo with to get a secondary
source is it's just anundesirable position to put our
company in, especially a companywith a history.
And I'm sorry to bring this upyet.
Again, of killing bald Eagles.
Kate (07:18):
I know God, I feel like our, our track record and
environmentalist and a dangerousspecies to just like going down
the drain.
Um, We're couch marketplacesshouldn't have anything to do
with us, but somehow we are tiedto the ocean.
Matt (07:36):
great job.
Uh Califia with the messaging sofar that has kept a lot of that
conversation out of it.
I mean, You know, people like tobring it up on social media.
about the environmental impactof blah, blah, blah, of what
sits doing and, um, paying folksto come by and say, this is
about couches.
(07:56):
Why are we talking about theenvironment?
Um, has been very.
Calathea (08:00):
Yeah.
I mean, we've, we've done asgood as we can, um, doing some
very public, uh, you know,environmental projects and also
basically bullying anybody whobrings up the impact, um, to
submission.
Kate (08:22):
Okay, well, I'll just put this out there.
I think, you know, we added theinformation about not eating
seafood to the contract, butit's really frankly,
unenforceable based on what ourlawyers have told us after
spending about seven minutes onthe topic.
Um, so, so maybe we just kind ofput it out there.
(08:44):
Okay.
Tell John it's there, but wedon't have to necessarily like
proclaim it as a, as a CITcompany value.
Very often.
Calathea (08:56):
totally agree less.
I just want to just be on therecord that I am less concerned
about eating fish, again, beingvegan and on a team that are
largely vegan and vegetarian andmore concerned about the.
Hoops that we are currentlyjumping through and, um, the
international poachers that, uh,we now have on speed dial to
(09:20):
obtain Amber Greece.
Matt (09:24):
I think we're all in agreement on this one.
Kate (09:26):
Yeah.
It's bad.
Calathea (09:28):
Okay.
I just, we're all on recordhere.
Um, we can move on, um, youknow,
Kate (09:36):
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, we'll keep working on it.
Any who wants to go next andstand up?
Uh, hopefully it's not asterrible of an update as much.
Matt (09:46):
uh, I can go next.
Um, uh, just an update,honestly, pretty quick.
Probably, um, camera, camera,replacements, uh, pretty much
wrapped up throughout thefacility.
Um, Califia thanks for havingall your team combined with, uh,
all the various devices, uh, andthanks for your patience.
Um, getting that replacementglass for a lot of those things,
(10:08):
uh, it's tough apple products,you know, they're not made to be
taken apart, um,
Kate (10:13):
Right.
Matt (10:14):
removed and mostly replaced the cameras, uh, in a
lot of those devices.
I would say we're about 95% donehere, uh, in the office.
The bad news is that contacttracing, uh, has.
Really tough.
So, um, yeah, the, the, we watchapp, uh, when it installs
itself, uh, it has you agree toalso preemptively install it on
(10:39):
device you come across that it'sable to.
Um, yeah, so we've been tryingto.
Track down everybody that, uh,everybody was in contact with
during that week of testing, uh,before we started locking this
down and, um, that's, that'sgetting to be a lot of work for
my team.
Maybe folks should make apriority list, you know, like
(11:00):
maybe let's keep it to a dozenpeople who you really care
about, uh, whose wellbeing isimportant to you their opinion
of you is important to you andlimit it to like that.
Cause at some point, you know,we're, uh, We're not You know,
this isn't our software worm.
We didn't create it.
We just, uh, just were patientzero for it.
Calathea (11:25):
I would like to say too on our end that, um, as you
know, both John and I went toseveral high profile parties,
uh, during the time in which weare that free trial and our team
is working on.
Providing very, very generousinfluencer packages to most of
those people.
(11:46):
Um, I mean, honestly they havevery little requirements to
actually promote us.
We're basically higher payingthem hush money, but, um, it's,
it's what we're doing to justmake sure that, we don't have
any blow back, uh, from some ofthe high profile people.
Kate (12:03):
Though.
I did not.
I mean, I know we probablyshouldn't be happy about this,
but like, it was kind of cool towatch those parties.
Like, I didn't know, theKardashians had tigers and that
you got to like pet them.
We didn't tell us about that.
Calathea (12:23):
Yeah, I mean, that tiger, um, first was, was not as
nice as it seemed.
And second was.
Like you don't have smell ofvision through the camera that
tiger was
Matt (12:37):
Thank goodness.
Calathea (12:37):
smelly and you
Kate (12:39):
wow.
Calathea (12:41):
yeah.
It's
Matt (12:42):
thought about that.
I just assumed they would smelllike, like a cat, but more.
Calathea (12:48):
yeah, but imagine a cat, but more like magnified.
I
Matt (12:53):
I don't know.
I mean, if it's like a nice cat,I got a good smell.
Can get in there a little belly
Calathea (13:01):
Yeah, tigers they
Matt (13:03):
smell like cozy.
Kate (13:05):
well, speaking of which Matt, like I, the office cat
spends a lot of time in youroffice and the cleaning lady.
Actually specifically asked meif there's a way that we could
like distribute it a little bitbecause the cat smell just is
frankly not coming out at thispoint.
Matt (13:21):
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what to doit, it likes me.
I mean, I can, I can try andshoo it away, but it, it follows
me pretty much wherever.
Right.
Kate (13:32):
well, I, I think it's cause you always keep anchovies
on you and you feed it to them.
And I just, that's also anothersmell from.
Matt (13:40):
yeah, I'm not going to have those anchovies anymore.
Uh,
Kate (13:43):
Right.
Matt (13:44):
know, there
Kate (13:44):
That's true.
Matt (13:45):
option.
Um, maybe that'll take care ofit.
Kate (13:49):
Okay.
Two birds with one stone.
Um,
Matt (13:52):
I just, I don't, I don't want anyone to be or jealous if
the cat continues to like me,even after the anchovies.
Kate (14:02):
I think we understand the cat has its own preferences.
Um, we've learned at this pointthat.
Matt (14:06):
cat and an official employee.
Can the cat not have seafoodnow?
That's potentially an
Kate (14:12):
Oh, no.
Matt (14:14):
like not all cats can eat all.
Kate (14:17):
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Um, I'll check their records.
I think there are contractor,which probably means that those
same benefits and restrictionsdon't apply.
Matt (14:28):
Okay.
Kate (14:30):
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, um, Thank you for theupdate, Matt, I'm very excited
to get, um, some of my devicesback with working cameras, uh,
that I don't
Matt (14:41):
yeah.
I wanted
Kate (14:41):
have to worry about.
Matt (14:43):
It's been hard to get replacement parts for some of
these.
Um, are you really still usingthis, uh, 2003 iMac that you
brought in?
Kate (14:53):
yeah, no, it works great.
I mean the newer IMAX they haveso locked down that you can't
add extra, like hard drives anddifferent things to it.
Matt (15:02):
Yeah,
Kate (15:02):
one's really, um, well, personalized to me
Matt (15:06):
Okay.
It's just, um, yeah, I mean, itcan't, it can't be a good
experience for you using that todo much.
Kate (15:14):
I mean, it gives me time to multitask, right?
Like I have, I have the iMac, Ihave my Samsung S3.
Um, and between those two, likeI usually have something to do
at most.
Matt (15:28):
Wow.
Okay.
Well, I was going to offer yousome replacement upgrades
because in some cases it'scheaper just to give you a new
phone, for example, than to tryand find replacement parts for
another.
But, uh, if you're, if you'rededicated to it, I will.
You.
Kate (15:45):
Yeah.
I mean, it's just that therecycling programs for Samsungs
are not great.
I just don't know if I couldlive with myself, knowing that
that's just going into a dump,potentially leaking into water
sources, hurting children.
I don't, I think about thatsometimes at night and I don't
think I want that on my moralconscience
Matt (16:07):
yeah.
Fair enough.
Kate (16:11):
anyway.
Matt (16:12):
Uh, that reminds me of Califia.
Um, for, for your team membersthat asked we did get the new
iPad pros in and, um, we have,uh, sent away their, uh, old
additions for recycling.
Kate (16:27):
What's recycling program.
Did you use.
Matt (16:30):
Um, it's it's the apple.
Calathea (16:33):
okay.
Um, that's uh, good to know.
I think, you know, some, acouple of our members enjoy
those vintage apple products.
So it might be a
Matt (16:45):
oh yeah.
Oh no, no, no.
We flagged, we flagged those,um, believe me, uh, my team,
developed a whole program makesure everybody's device came
back to the exact person.
Um, but there were a couple ofrequests, uh, for, for new ones.
So, uh, we just went ahead anddid the upgrade if anybody for
it?
Calathea (17:06):
uh, that came out of your budget.
Matt (17:10):
Yeah.
I mean, I figure a lot of thisone is on us, uh, for letting
folks install the watch app.
So yeah, we're, we're justeating that, um, make, do with
our server stack as it is.
Calathea (17:26):
well, I'm I will any sort of flack that you get from
the creative team for takingaway some of their, um, old pros
as they would call them.
Um, I'm happy to, be at thefront of the.
Um, and I'm sure they'll lovethe new with.
Um, I can give an update on ourend.
(17:48):
Uh, I'm so sorry, Eric can'tjoin us today because, uh,
wanted to announce that we haverolled out our new augmented
reality, uh, couch feature thathas
Matt (17:59):
oh,
Calathea (18:01):
Popular, uh, usage.
Um, I, as you know, it, itallows people to see how our
couches might look their space.
And, uh, it's been really greaton social media.
People are a look at couchesthat they probably reasonably
couldn't afford to buy and, alook at how that fits.
It's really nice aspirational,uh, piece with them.
Kate (18:24):
Yeah.
Calathea (18:24):
we were happy with it.
Kate (18:27):
Nice.
Matt (18:28):
I
Kate (18:29):
Um,
Matt (18:29):
want to ask, um, is, are people using the adventure mode?
Calathea (18:35):
yes.
So many people are using theadventure road.
Uh, yeah, it, it is exciting towatch them, uh, be able to
basically create like a little,uh, couch, you know, video game,
board game on their wall.
It's it's been so many.
Matt (18:55):
awesome.
Yeah, I've, I've been some of myfavorite tabletop gaming
streamers, uh, get involved inthis.
Um, I think Califia.
I sent you a list of names, uh,to, to contact on Twitch.
Uh, I don't, I don't, you know,I definitely don't want to tell
you how to do your job.
I just think, I think it wouldbe really cool to see them.
Calathea (19:17):
I we've definitely reached out with, to some of
the.
Matt (19:21):
That's.
Calathea (19:21):
You know.
Yeah.
I expect that we'll be able tosee it.
I also enjoy that, that feature.
You can add Ella, like newcouches to that game by going
out into the wild.
So it's been very cool to watchour users really expand their
thinking and be able to see howour couches might look and
(19:41):
parks.
Um, and you know, public spacesit's led to people actually
delivering couches to.
All over the country, which isactually we've, we're getting
some blow back, but what part?
Couldn't use a good couch.
Matt (20:00):
Yeah, a lot of municipalities have really cut
back on seating as a way ofpreventing homeless people from
setting up, you know, places tostay.
And I think that.
Kate (20:10):
Great.
Matt (20:11):
It's a pretty awful civic policy, honestly like houseless
individuals are as much acommunity member as anybody
else.
So.
Calathea (20:20):
I totally agree with you, man.
I mean, I am totally against,um, antagonistic architecture
and, know, designs like that.
I'm You know, um, a couch forthe people or some sort of
campaign might be next of, know,this is a new marketing
opportunity.
Like we, if we have saturatedthe couch in home situation, you
(20:45):
know, where can couches go next?
Kate (20:48):
true.
Um, I will say that we're havinga few issues.
I mean, this is, this is kindalike early days of Pokemon go,
right.
Everyone's just walking aroundwith their phones in front of
them.
Not really looking where they'regoing.
Okay.
And there've been a few casesof, of buses running into people
(21:10):
with couches who were trying todeliver them to parks, uh, or
just like playing the game inthe middle of traffic.
Um, I guess, like for instance,in New York, there's not a lot
of street space to put a couch,so people tend to try to go
towards the middle of the road.
Um, so I guess I'm justwondering if there was a
(21:31):
complete, we could adapt this.
Okay.
It doesn't work outside or atleast
Matt (21:38):
partner with, you know, like a.
I guess Uber and Lyft areprobably more car than sized,
moving vehicle companies.
Maybe maybe we could bring ourown logistics team into this.
Uh, be great to have couchessent through our system and, you
(21:59):
know, get to pay the overhead ofgoing to the warehouse and
getting put back out on thetruck.
then people don't have to try tomove them to them.
Calathea (22:07):
Yeah, this could also, you know, we could work with
municipalities, like bird doesto, to put like geo restrictions
on where people can delivercouches to, you know, instance,
you know, the middle ofintersections though, if you
guys saw the four intersectioncouch, I mean, it created just
this beautiful little greenspace at a busy intersection and
(22:30):
Boston and I mean, it was.
Well, if a bunch of Bostoniansyelling at you and cursing at
you while you have funded aninflatable pool is your style.
Which who
Kate (22:43):
yeah.
Calathea (22:44):
love that.
I
Matt (22:45):
Yeah.
Calathea (22:46):
that was so good.
Kate (22:49):
And frankly, it was amazing.
I mean, it's, it's, it's March,right.
And it's so cold there and theyjust continued heating it with
that fire, you know?
And I mean, as we learned,right, like fires do melt,
inflatable pools.
So not like the greatesthomemade hot tub situation, but,
uh, yeah, I, I just, is thatreally the kind of PR.
Calathea (23:13):
I don't know.
I mean, it definitely.
It increased couch sales, youknow,
Matt (23:18):
Yeah.
Calathea (23:18):
that fire melted the pool, but not our couches, which
is great, you know, especiallyafter some of the fire risk
Kate (23:26):
Yeah,
Matt (23:27):
Yup.
Calathea (23:28):
in the past.
Kate (23:30):
we've worked hard to make all of our couches absolutely
fireproof, um, quite theopposite of what they were
actually a few, a few monthsago.
Calathea (23:38):
I mean, are there challenges in this new.
Yes, but is it redefining wherecouches can go and aren't we
about redefining marketplaces?
Kate (23:49):
True.
True speaking, speaking ofwhich, um, you know, this series
a is coming soon and I reallythink we need to put more time
into thinking about what's next.
Matt (24:04):
Yeah.
Kate (24:04):
Couches have, have really been a great, uh, cornerstone
for us.
Um, but we're about more thanjust couches.
And I think this extra influx ofcapital will give us the chance
to do more
Matt (24:19):
I can't wait for us to talk about this on the yacht.
Uh, cause cause we're taking abig vacation, right?
Like we're we're doing the fullmonth.
Calathea (24:30):
Yeah.
Matt (24:32):
Great.
Kate (24:32):
sort of.
Well, I mean, I know we saidlike a month long sabbatical
would probably be built into theseries a but there have been
some negotiations.
Um, since that there will, itwill definitely be a couple of
days at minimum
Matt (24:50):
uh,
Calathea (24:50):
A
Matt (24:51):
that's.
That's like we get, we get oneof those every week.
It's called the weekend.
Kate (24:56):
three.
I, I think we can definitely getthrough.
Calathea (25:00):
We need way more time for
Matt (25:02):
Yeah.
Calathea (25:02):
then in three days,
Matt (25:04):
the series a is, is not just like an influx of cash.
It's a leveling up of ourcompany.
It's a leveling up of ouridentity and we need a break.
We need a complete, divorce fromthe people we are now from the
company we are now.
And the only way to do that isthrough an intensive lavish
(25:25):
experience on.
Will we be working there?
Yes.
Somewhat.
Like we're going to talk aboutthe future of the company, but
we also need to be able to getthree square meals a day from
the dining hall to enjoy latenight karaoke, lounge, singing
to swim, uh, and uh, mostimportantly, uh, ride in the
waterpark tubes on top of theship to take day trips, uh, in
(25:48):
places that require extravaccinations, like all of that
is going to help us become thecompany we are now.
Calathea (25:55):
And if I were to just say, you know, to the core of my
being a belief that I have isthat things get worked out on
boats.
And if we want these things tobe worked out, we need a boat.
Kate (26:11):
and I love the idea of this multi-tiered boat, um, that
can sail all around the countryor world really.
But, I mean, we have operations,we have to like, keep the
business running during thattime we're going to, we're going
to get, be getting all ofFacebook's traffic, right.
(26:31):
Then like, what if things break?
And, and I also like, I mean,you mentioned divorcing
ourselves.
I just, I don't know that Icould go through that again.
Matt (26:45):
it's just a metaphorical thing, Kate.
We leave behind the people thatwe are in order to become the
people that we, we will be.
look, we're
Kate (26:54):
Okay.
So we don't have to have likecustody issues.
We're not going to go throughlike custody battles for, for
our previous personalitiesaspects.
Matt (27:03):
no, I don't why.
Well, I mean, there's, there'sthe Bugsby thing, but I didn't
think we wanted to,
Kate (27:12):
I don't think you want to bring that up either.
Um,
Matt (27:14):
Califia.
Calathea (27:16):
know it's okay.
Um, yeah, I don't, I, don't havethe mental capacity.
I mean, we just went through areally rough branding exercise.
is, that is take it all byAngela mental energy.
So have I forgotten and, um, usestrategies to forget about this
custody battle a hundredpercent.
(27:36):
Um, bug speeds.
Loss in Iowa really has changedhim as a mascot.
And, um, Nope, Nope, Nope.
I just don't have the brainspace to,
Matt (27:48):
Yeah.
Okay.
I
Kate (27:51):
Yeah,
Matt (27:51):
want to, one more thing about, about the boat.
Okay.
Um, it's it's not forever.
We're not bringing the entirecompany.
Okay.
Everybody.
We'll delegate work to theirteams and leave behind
contingencies.
Uh, know, it and dev we've got,we've got internal docs in
manuals on just about anythingthat could possibly happen short
(28:12):
of a meteor hitting the datacenter.
Uh, and most of the zombieresponse plan will cover that.
So, uh, we'll be fine.
Like we'll, we'll go out forsome weeks.
There's satellite internet onthe boat, uh, and we can handle
anything that comes out.
But, I mean, Kate you've gottrusted lieutenants, right?
(28:33):
If you've got folks that youdelegate.
Kate (28:38):
Trusted delegators.
Um, I mean, that is somethingthat is certainly a idea for me
to pull together.
I just think it's been so hardwhen I've tried to hand over HR
or finance or the relationshipwith legal or some of the
operational pieces or some ofthe support pieces and some of
(28:59):
the, the manufacturing orinnovation or, uh, warehousing
pieces.
So, I mean, Like 50 to 90%coverage from some of those.
Um, but we can, we could thinkabout it.
Maybe a man.
No, not Francis.
Oh, I'll think of someone.
(29:20):
Yeah.
Maybe I'll get an intern.
Matt (29:23):
Okay.
It's just, wouldn't be the sameif you weren't there and we need
you to not be the same.
If that makes sense, we
Kate (29:33):
yeah.
Matt (29:33):
we need to get on this boat and change as a company and
as people.
Kate (29:37):
And I was, I am so looking forward to getting on a boat,
that just sounds like such acool experience, you know?
Um,
Matt (29:45):
this will be your first boat.
Kate (29:47):
yeah, yeah,
Matt (29:49):
awesome.
Calathea (29:50):
wow.
This is your first ever everytime being on this.
Kate (29:54):
Yeah, I mean, there was one time that I went on a canoe
with my grandma, but then shefell off and then, uh, the canoe
broke, uh, and then we had toswim back to shore.
Uh, and that was not great.
Uh, but I assume this will bedifferent
Matt (30:07):
Pet should be.
Calathea (30:08):
hopefully yeah.
Drastically different.
Is your, was your grandma?
K
Kate (30:13):
uh, in general, no, from that experience.
Calathea (30:20):
Okay.
Kate (30:22):
Anyway.
Yeah, I think we've kind ofcovered all the topics we needed
to today.
Um, any final notices otherwiseI'll make, I'll make sure Eric
listens to this.
Calathea (30:37):
no, I mean, I think we're, I mean, I hate to say it
right now, but it seems like,uh, we're at a space where there
are already any fires put out atthe moment.
Matt (30:50):
Yeah.
Oh, that reminds me.
Um, Eric or Eric, when youlistened to this, uh, you do
need to bring in your smartfridge.
We need to replace the camera init.
Also, your nest.
Kate (31:03):
Those have camera's in it.
Matt (31:05):
of, yeah, they have cameras in them.
It's to tell if their occupantsin the house, don't say in front
of your nest thermostat thatyou're bringing it in.
So like don't listen to this outloud, uh, because then they will
know and they have control ofyour nest thermostat.
Kate (31:20):
Gosh,
Matt (31:21):
had just made me.
Kate (31:24):
makes sense.
Um, okay.
Well, then I think we're good.
Uh, just a reminder to everyoneon paper, don't eat fish.
Um, but at home really, youknow, do what you want.
All right.
Ben (31:42):
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