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Learning manual transmission is nerve-wracking. Learning it the day before driving your first car across the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance podium at age 11? That's how classic car dealer Colleen Sheehan started.

Her first car was a 1930 BMW—nicknamed "Sputter"—that her father took as commission when a collection buyer said, "I don't care about that car." Colleen got it at age 8. At 11, she earned 3rd in class at Pebble Beach.

Sputter is extraordinary: wooden frame, cable brakes, 35 mph top speed. "If you hit a possum, the whole thing shatters...and the possum walks away cussing." Possibly the oldest BMW in America. She owns 2 of the estimated 4-5 in the US.

That passion led to Next Generation Classics, her California dealership specializing in Enzo-era Ferraris and exotic cars. While her twin brother chose computers, Colleen chose restoration, sales, and the collector car world. She names all her cars: Lancia Delta Integrale rally car "Guido," Tahoe "Betsy," second BMW "Putter."

Her dream car? Ferrari Competition Daytona 365GTB4c —only 15 ever made.

Philosophy? "I'd rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow."

Sputter sits in her garage, never to be sold.

Listen to Colleen's favorite episode, Dora's Datsun here - https://www.buzzsprout.com/2316026/episodes/14948807-from-datsun-to-range-rover-what-dora-s-first-car-taught-her-about-success

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SPEAKER_03 (00:02):
Welcome back to All the Cars I've Loved Before, your
authoritative podcast onautomotive nostalgia where our
guests are unique.
Each auto has an era, and everycar tells a story, so you know
what time it is.
Time to plug in, get a littlegrease under the nails, and slip

(00:22):
on that favorite car themet-shirt, hat, or jacket.
Uh let's welcome back ourlisteners from all over the
world.
Get ready, Doug.
We're gonna go around the world.
One of my favorite parts of theshow here.
Frankfurt.
So these are the people thathave listened in the past week
to any of our country.
Well, um, wherever you getpodcasted, listen to the podcast

(00:44):
there, our YouTube presents, uh,different stories.
So here we go.
Uh Bern, Switzerland.
You've heard of that one, right?
Frankfurt, Germany, Stockholm,Sweden, Canada, Italy, Los
Angeles, California, Wichita,Kansas, Toronto, Canada.
And welcome back to everyone inNew York, New York, and

(01:06):
Brooklyn, New York.
So uh let's see.
A lot of repeat listeners overthe past week in Switzerland and
Germany.
Maybe it was we did that uhchocolate-themed car show.
What do you think?
You remember that?
The old Toblerone GTS?
Love that.
Oh, and I have one for you.
Check this out.
Okay, so we had listeners overthe past week.

(01:28):
We've never had this kind ofneat in Zurich, Switzerland, and
also Lake Zurich, Illinois.
Do you think those two arerelated?
Related by marriage?
By what?
By by boat, by something,wouldn't you think?
Some transplants in the world.
Some transplants.
I love it.
Old New York, New York.

(01:49):
Love it.
Dig it.
So anyway, well, welcome back,Doug.
How you doing, partner?
I'm doing great.
Great to be here.
And what's working?
Yeah, indeed, indeed.
And what is with the so how muchtime did you spend in the garage
over the past weekend?
With one or many or all or noneof your of your automobiles?

SPEAKER_02 (02:10):
Pretty much none, but I do it's been a busy couple
of weeks, I know.
I do I do have a quick uh storyabout a garage.
So um, as all all our listenersknow, um I own a DeLorean.
So I had to pick up my DeLoreanfrom somebody in New Jersey to

(02:30):
uh transmission repair work.
So I drove it back to myDeLorean buddy who lives in uh
northwest of Baltimore, and hehad the authority because
DeLoreans are stainless steel,he had the authority, worldwide
authority, uh make sure I gethis name right, Chris Nichols in

(02:50):
from Australia in to regrain.
Yeah, re-grain the stainlesssteel on cars.
So there were probably 15DeLoreans there.
Now they had to leave before Ileft, but I got a lot of
pictures, and my friend had justfinished this huge garage.

(03:11):
I think the garage itself canhold about 15 cars.

SPEAKER_03 (03:14):
Man, that's big.
Huge.
Okay, so very interesting.
And before we bring in today'sguest, all right, so the
re-graining thereof, when youget very close up on your car,
um there's just this very um, Iguess very characteristic or
very unique detail to thestainless steel.
So what does regraining mean?

(03:36):
Did you see the machine that didit?
Is it some sort of uh uhstanding or what?
What's what is it?

SPEAKER_02 (03:43):
Uh I think it's called a wolf's wheel, is the at
least the the type of um padthat's used, and it's really
it's just a process.
And somehow this Chris Nicholsis just he's renowned for it.
He knocks things out, he justknows how to do it, but you
know, it's very he takes awayjust a very thin amount and he
just has the recipe to successso much that people I mean

(04:08):
people from Maryland, DC,Virginia, and and Pennsylvania
were bringing their cars to thisone location to have their cars
worked on by Chris Nichols.
And what's interesting issupposedly his he's so well
known, I've actually seen itadvertised.
They say that if you have yourcar re-grained by him, it

(04:29):
actually adds value to the car.

SPEAKER_03 (04:31):
How interesting.
Yep, yep.
Okay, so so uh have youcommunicated with him at all?
Do you think we could get him onthe show?
Uh it's possible.

SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
I did I did meet him.
I shook his hand.
Well, it's great.
But I bombed him.
So yeah, we can talk to him.
He's back in Australia now, sowe can figure that out.

SPEAKER_03 (04:52):
Just in town for the work and maybe a quick visit.
Wonderful.
Okay, so you got pictures.
Do we have them up on thewebsite yet?
We don't, but we will by thetime this comes out.
Lovely.
Okay, uh, fantastic.
What else are we gonna get into?
Um, what's going on with theshirt?
What's you always have the bestwardrobe.

(05:13):
What's happening with thatshirt?
I'm always always on the show.
In honor of today's guest,obviously.

SPEAKER_02 (05:18):
Yeah, so it says Tahoe Road Rally.
It is a Ferrari something uhkind of a Ferrari Daytona, I
think.
Okay.
Probably not the right uhDaytona not being the real name,
but we have our expert on whowill set a straight.

SPEAKER_03 (05:35):
But you know, you get these shirts at Old Navy,
and they say, you know, theTopeka, Kansas Maserati rally,
and it's a bunch of goofballbaloney.
There's no such thing, but itsounds so interesting.
It pulls people in.
And what do you expect for anine-dollar shirt, after all?
Oh, so we have a new news pageon the website for our press
releases that come out.

(05:56):
I'm sure we're gonna be pickedup in the Wall Street Journal
Eating Day now, correct?
Uh it's it's in the works.
Absolutely.
It's in the works or the MainStreet Journal.
One of the two.
What else do we have?
I think that's I think that'sall the housekeeping.
Oh, you were gonna ask me abouta color.
Oh, yeah.
So what's what's up with thecar?

(06:18):
Did you choose a color to paintyour dream car, your dream car
from high school that's now yournightmare car sitting in your
garage?
Let's hear all about the colorchoice.

SPEAKER_02 (06:27):
So the 1990 Nissan 300ZX.
So it is black or it wasoriginally black.
As you know, I'm a fan of silvercars.
Yes.
So I spent a lot of timethinking about it.
My kids are like paint itsilver.
Somebody else said paint it backto black.
So I decided to go in totallythe opposite direction.

(06:49):
So there was a pale yellow whenthose cars came out.
And I had to look it up beforethe show.
It's called a yellow pearl glowor a yellow pearl.
And it's just a beautiful color.
You don't see it very often inthe Z's.
At least I don't know that I'veever seen one in the last since
I've owned the car at least.

(07:09):
Okay.
And occasionally I do see Zs,but so yeah, it's like a pale
yellow.

SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
Wow, it sounds very distinctive.

SPEAKER_02 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna stand out.
And you know, it's funny in thepast I never would have owned a
yellow car or red car ever againbecause of speeding tickets, but
now it in my 50s, I don't drivethat fast, so I'm okay with
that.

SPEAKER_03 (07:31):
Beautiful.
Can't wait.
Can't wait to see, would like tosee some swatches of the color
moving on.
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(07:54):
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(08:14):
Uh email us, Christian atcarslove.com, Doug at
carslove.com, if you haveanything to share.
And with that, I think we'redone with all of our
housekeeping and mindlessbanter.
Off to the green room we go.
So, Doug, how did today'sspecial guest make it to our
virtual garage?

SPEAKER_02 (08:31):
Yeah.
So, in a roundabout way, throughall the social media and YouTube
and the fact that Ferraris areawesome.
We and and uh as it turns out,some mutual people in the
industry who uh work on Ferrarisand restore Ferraris, we found

(08:53):
Colleen Sheehan.

SPEAKER_03 (08:55):
Yay.
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean tointerrupt.
How are you doing, Colleen?

SPEAKER_00 (09:00):
Welcome.
Hello, great to be here.

SPEAKER_03 (09:04):
Thank you.
Leave it to me to step all overthe introduction, but fantastic
to have you here.
And um, wow.
Please continue, Doug.
So what uh how how did you reachout?
How did she respond?

SPEAKER_02 (09:16):
And and yeah, I think uh I think it was just uh
via email, and uh you know, justsometimes you uh get people on
the right day, and she respondedright away.
And we did some coordination,and here we are, and we're
talking to Colleen live fromCalifornia from her shop with a
for those of us who who uh seeit on YouTube, there's a

(09:38):
beautiful, beautiful fish tankbehind her.

SPEAKER_00 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah.
Cars, fish, dogs, yeah.
Simple person.

SPEAKER_03 (09:49):
Anything with wheels, yeah, for sure.
Love it.
And I'm sure that during theinterview I'm going to get
caught just sort of mindlesslylooking at these hypnotic,
beautiful looking at him.
So if if there's just completesilence, which you absolutely
don't want in any interviewshow, it is due to me.

(10:10):
That's all right.
We we rolled with it.
Fantastic.
So what do you want yeah?
What are you up to these days,Colleen?
What's your latest project?
What's what are you doing thesedays?

SPEAKER_00 (10:25):
Well, so uh I've always been around you know cars
my whole life, and uh I've beenin the sales business for over
12 years, 13 years now, I think.
Uh and I last year I started myown dealership uh called Next

(10:46):
Generation Classics.
So, you know, that's pretty muchmy uh not nine to five, like
seven to ten.

SPEAKER_03 (10:56):
But you know easier to sell the hours that you don't
work, running your own business.
I imagine running your owndealership.
So, what kind of cars do youspecialize in?
What kind of clients do youspecialize in?
Do you take on new clients?
Do you have a book of kind of aclosed book of business?
How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
Uh so my specialty has always been Enzo era
Ferraris, basically kind of likethe 70s and older Ferraris, but
that's just my my realspecialty.
I sell all kinds of stuff, newerFerraris.
Uh currently I have like a FordModel A, a couple of Panteras, I

(11:38):
just sold a uh Porsche Turbo S.
So, you know, all kinds ofstuff, a fairly wide variety.

SPEAKER_03 (11:48):
So, do you have a showroom?
Do you will you broker thingsvirtually?
How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 (11:54):
Yeah, I have a showroom and basically uh
there's kind of three differentways that people normally um
sell cars, like when they're inthe industry.
You're a dealer or um a brokeror you consign.
And so I do a little bit of allof it.
You know, I'm a licensed dealer,uh, but I also, which most

(12:18):
dealers own their own inventory.
Uh, so I have some of that, butthen I do some consignments.
I have clients, you know, justrecently I had another client, I
sold him a 1966 uh Corvette, andhe's sending it back to me to
sell.
Um and then a little bit ofbrokering where, you know,

(12:39):
somebody says, I want a F40, andso I find them one and just kind
of the middleman in the process.

SPEAKER_02 (12:50):
Yeah, it's uh it's amazing to me, uh, just not not
just how connected people are,but just for instance, and I'll
I'll go down to the simplething, but I have a friend on
the eastern shore of Marylandwho's he's a Z guy.
He's got tons of Z's, he's got atractor trailer full of parts,
and he always hears about Z's.

(13:11):
And why is that?
Because all his network knowsthat he is the Z guy, so he'll
find out about cars that justaren't for sale.
And and I'm sure it's like thatfor you with uh these exotic
cars, including Ferrari, and allaround the world too.

SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
I mean, I sold a um Lamborghini Diablo SBR from
Australia, you know, last year,and just random guy emailed
wanted to sell his car andhappened to know who might be
looking for one.
And you know, so it's it's umwhen you have that real

(13:51):
specialty, you know, you get allthe people calling you about it.

SPEAKER_02 (13:55):
Yeah, yep, and that niche.
And uh I I did want to ask you,so you you find these cars, some
of them are some of them uh mayneed some work, right?
When you find them, how do youhow do you get them repaired?

SPEAKER_00 (14:09):
Uh it depends.
So there's a few different shopsin my area.
Um and it depends what it istoo, right?
So if if it's a new Ferrariversus an old one, you know,
there's definitely two differentshops for that.
Um so you know, and if it's aCorvette, it might be different.

(14:33):
If it's, you know, so each oneuh there's a different shop that
specializes in them.
The nice thing about where Ilive in Southern California is
the it's car mecca.
Uh, you know, we we have no lackof cars and exotic shops to work
on them here.
Uh so there's pretty much a shopfor anything around here.

(14:57):
I mean, even with uh with yourDeLorean, there's a guy who
specializes in DeLoreans outhere.
And I've been to his shop and hehas like 30 of them there.
And it's kind of crazy to walkin there and it's just a fleet
of DeLoreans, but there's aspecialist for everything.

SPEAKER_02 (15:14):
Is that in uh Huntington Beach?
Okay, yep.
I haven't been out there, but Iknow that I know the guy or know
of him.
So yep.
Yeah, have you ever had to shipa part ship a part in from
somewhere, let's say Italy?

SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
All the time.

SPEAKER_02 (15:33):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (15:34):
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah.
And um, yeah, you know, I'm justcoming from my knowledge of we
had uh we had that past episodewith uh Tom Young, and uh I know
you know Tom, but just theamount of the perfectionism that
is involved in in that craftthat you see the end result of,
he's restoring cars for people,you're selling them, and just

(16:00):
like a scratch in the windowthat couldn't be buffed out.
He had to have the windowrecreated, not just the window,
but the stamp in the window.

SPEAKER_00 (16:10):
Yep.

unknown (16:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:11):
Oh yeah, it's when you get into all the the real
details, it's it's crazy.
Uh it's cool when you know allthe little details too.
Yes.
Uh, I mean, I know a lot, youknow, I'm still learning, but uh
it's that's part of the fun islearning all the new little fun
details like every single day.

SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
So uh oh, sorry, Doug, I just want to hop in
here.
That is so interesting to me.
Do supply chains ever getsnarled?
Do you ever get stuck waitingfor a part and somebody's sort
of stamping their feet?
Are there deadlines in your lineof work?
Or can you kind of put peopleoff?
What how how does that uh howoften does that happen?

SPEAKER_00 (16:53):
Well, um, luckily, because I sell the cars, um
usually I'm not overseeing toomuch of the restoration process
or service work.

SPEAKER_03 (17:05):
Got it.

SPEAKER_00 (17:05):
Although sometimes I am, and that like right now I
have a De Tomaso Pantera I'mselling that's having some
engine work done, and some ofthe parts got uh, you know,
caught up waiting on them andended up uh the potential buyer
found a different car in themeantime, uh just because it

(17:28):
took too long to get the partsin.
So that definitely happens andthat is never fun.
Um yeah, I have so one of mypersonal cars, I have a uh
Lancia Delta Integralle, and umthat the cambelt snapped a while
back.

(17:48):
So it's a whole top-end rebuild,and getting parts for that,
luckily you can find them, butthey're you know overseas and
gotta get them shipped in.
So it's part of the chaos ofexhaust cars.

SPEAKER_02 (18:05):
Yep, yep, and the and the challenge and the and
the fun, right?

SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (18:11):
And uh I you know, I started asking you about uh
getting the cars repaired, andso we talked about parts, but we
we've been Christian and I havebeen fortunate enough to have
people interview uh students andinstructors from uh both Weaver
State College, uh, they have anautomotive repair or automotive
tech program, and then mostrecently uh McPherson College in

(18:36):
Kansas when their autorestoration program.
Do you ever do you ever um seekout those type of candidates for
car repairs?
Or have you seen that done wherethis guy came out of McPherson
and I gotta have him?

SPEAKER_00 (18:52):
So I have right and I have uh seen some of the shops
are definitely looking forbecause it is getting harder to
find uh qualified mechanics forthese kind of cars.
Uh, if you think of any mechanicworking on modern cars, it's
mostly computer work at thispoint, um or simple oil change

(19:14):
and like the kind of basics.
Uh so the the kids coming out,the people coming out of these
colleges that specialize inthese classic automotive cars,
it's uh very desirable for shopsbecause you're getting somebody
who you don't need to train themfrom the bottom up.

(19:38):
They've already learned a lotand are qualified.
Uh and each, whether you'regoing to like a Porsche
specialty shop or a Ferrarispecialty shop, there's some
finesse for each that you'regonna have to learn, you know,
the little minute details of thedifferent kinds of cars.
But in general, uh, if you'recoming out of one of those

(19:59):
colleges, then you are leavesand bounds ahead of anyone else
they could hire.

unknown (20:05):
Good point.

SPEAKER_03 (20:06):
Yeah, that that's such a good point about Weber
State because their program isactually co-located with the IT
of the computer science program.
They share the same building asuh because as you you right
rightfully said, you know,working on a car now is like
working on a computer.
So it's just just very differentfrom some of the some of the
early models.

SPEAKER_02 (20:26):
And then you have McPherson who's on the totally
opposite scale, right?
We're you know early 20thcentury cars, right?
We had Cash on, right?
What is Cash's daily driver?
I think it was a Model T orModel A.
Um, and when we had Chris onChris, like that.
Yeah, and Chris had a family ofModel Ts.

(20:49):
Like he used to go on familytrips where they would tow the
Model T behind them, the family.
He got a Model T.
His daughter has a Model T.
It's just so incredible to talkto them.
And they they had a great win uhabout two years ago at Pebble
Beach, actually, with their uh Iwant to say it was a 30s

(21:11):
Mercedes, it was a big win.
So that that really put them onthe map.
But it's I love it.
What's that?
1953 bins, I thought.
Uh yes, yes, 53.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Colleen, before we go backin time and start talking about
your your earliest automobilesand the ones that made a great
impression on you.
Is there a way for ourlistenership to find out what
cars you have for sale?
How can they learn more aboutwhat you do and what you offer?
Is that public knowledge?

SPEAKER_00 (21:44):
Yeah, definitely.
So uh my website isnextgenclassics.com.
And I have some of my inventoryon there uh and my contact
information.
But I also post a whole bunch onuh social media.

(22:04):
Yeah.
And so you'll see a lot of stuffon my Instagram.
If I get a new car in, you'lldefinitely see it on Instagram
long before you'll see it on thewebsite because when I get a new
car in, I like to do a fullvideo for YouTube on the cars.
And I don't want to do salespitchy videos.

(22:25):
You know, if you want to buy acar, you're gonna call me with
questions.
I want the videos to beinformative and to go over like
the histories of the cars andwhat makes each car unique and
special.
So uh that takes some time toget done.
So it takes a while to get a carup on my website.
So uh most of my new inventoryyou'll see on my Instagram or

(22:50):
TikTok or one of those socialmedias.

SPEAKER_03 (22:53):
Yeah, and and a big shout out to your YouTube
channel.
I love how you kind of play withthe format um in one of them.
I don't know if it's the theEuraco where you're kind of
driving the car, you just get tolisten to it.
And it's only a minute or solong.
It's just a wonderful littlepiece of of film, as well as you
I love that they're almost likelittle documentaries where you

(23:13):
give a history lesson and thedifference between these two.
And these sold this many unitsuh here uh versus the the its
its next model successor.
So I think that's very welldone.
So I would uh and you'll seethis in the show notes if if
you're listening to the podcast,but it's really compelling
content.
Go check out her YouTubechannel.
So what do you think, Doug?

(23:35):
Are we ready to to to to plopher in the DeLorean and take her
take her back to the future?
What do you think?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (23:40):
And we're gonna take her back to age 11, although I
think she owned the car beforethen.

SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
Yeah.
Yep.
So um my my first car, I mean,you know, my whole car history
is definitely not your typicalum, you know, first car story.
And I uh so my dad, the my dad'sthe reason I got into this
business.
And uh when I was a little kid,he was selling a large

(24:10):
collection of cars.
Uh, and most of it was more, youknow, the like Lamborghinis,
Geraris, that kind of stuff.
And one of the cars in thecollection was this little 1930
BMW.
And the buyer of the collectionwas like, I don't really care
about that car.
You know, it doesn't really fit.

(24:32):
And uh, so that's like, youknow, I'll take it as part of my
commission.
My kids will love it.
So uh I got the car when I waseight years old.
And um, when I was 11, PebbleBeach, the um Concourse de la
dance, was doing a uh exhibitwith Austin Sevens.

(24:56):
And BMW had bought the rights tobasically recreate the Austin 7.
Uh, so the very first BMWs werethey look a lot like the Austin
7.
So it fit into this Austin 7class.
Uh and so when I was 11, the carwas entered in the Pebble Beach

(25:18):
concourse.
Uh and I ended up driving itacross the podium.
We got third in class, um, whichhas a fun story behind it all on
its own.
Um, but so I ended up learninghow to drive in that car.

SPEAKER_02 (25:38):
And your uh twin brother was with you, right?
As well.
Yes.
I think I I saw the I saw thepicture.
Uh, did he he learn to drive itas well?

SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Uh no, actually.
So funny enough, uh my brothernever really was super
interested in cars.
You know, he he thinks they'recool, but he's more into
technology and computers uh andthat kind of side of the world.
Yep.
Uh whereas, you know, I alwayswanted to get my hands dirty and

(26:10):
learn how to wrench on cars anddrive cars and anything that
smelled like rubber andgasoline.

SPEAKER_02 (26:17):
Yep.
Yeah, and it just uh, you know,just you saying that and talking
to you reminds me of our uh talkwith Cat DeLorean where uh
Christian, what did she say?
Her veins were full of gasoline.
Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 (26:31):
I think that's what I was just maybe it was
transfiction fluid, I don'tknow.

SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
Yeah, true, yeah.
I'm just thinking about the thethe very special uh you know
father-daughter bond, right?
And and how wonderful it is, andI'm just you know, hearkening
back, I I wish my kids, both ofmy kids were interested in cars,
they're really not, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:54):
Well, I mean, at least I was and are one of us,
yeah, yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (27:00):
And uh I I do have to ask, so uh 1930 BMW, what was
it like to drive that?
Because right, it didn't haveany modern advances, right?
Probably had an electricstarter, but beyond that so um
basically if you could drivethat, you could drive anything,

(27:20):
uh including a tractor,probably.
Yeah, oh yeah, probably verysimilar.

SPEAKER_00 (27:26):
Hey, if you could drive a countosh, you could
drive a tractor.
So, you know, that's not sayinga whole bunch, but uh I think
so.
When I learned how to drive inthat car, I had already been
racing go-karts and stuff for along time.
So I had a basic idea ofdriving, uh, but I didn't know

(27:47):
how to use a clutch.
And so I learned how to drivemanual that day, the day before
the concourse.
And um basically that car, and Istill have that car to this day.
Um, I'll never give it up.
It's you know, it's just toospecial to me.

(28:09):
But uh so that it doesn't evenhave drum brakes, it has cable
brakes.
I mean, everything about thatcar is so crude.
Uh, it when you're going downthe street, you kind of dribble,
uh, and you're just working ashard as you can just to keep it
in your own lane and it'sfighting you, trying to bounce

(28:32):
this way and that way.
And it's so much fun.
It's just it's exhilarating.
And you know, it has a top speedof like 35 miles an hour, and
that's if you're brave, right?
Because the whole frame of it iswood.
And so if you, you know, hit apossum, the whole thing
shatters, but right uh, and thenthe possum's angry at you and

(28:55):
you know walks away cussing.
But I mean, it's just like thissilly little car that is in no
means is it like utilitarian oreasy, but that's part of what
makes it so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
How how many of those are left in the or in the
states even?

SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
Well, I know of two.
Um, both of them are in mygarage.

SPEAKER_02 (29:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (29:22):
Um I've only ever heard of a couple others.
I actually haven't seen anotherone in person.
Um basically mine was uh theoldest BMW in the United States,
and uh it might still be.
I think uh there's rumorssomebody imported one that could

(29:45):
be older than mine, but Ihaven't seen it yet.
Um but basically they they madequite you know a few thousand of
them.
Uh but the problem is they weremade in the very Late 20s and
early 30s, and they were German.
So a lot of them were destroyedin the war.

(30:06):
So not too many survived.
You'll probably find a few uhback in Germany, in Europe, but
in the US, there's I mean,probably four or five of them.
And I I don't know that forsure.
I know for sure there's two.

SPEAKER_01 (30:26):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (30:27):
Um, but I don't know of any others, certainly, you
know.
But there probably are a couple.

SPEAKER_02 (30:34):
Pretty rare.
And uh that that's really incontrast to uh I know it's not
your second car, but it's yourhandle on uh Instagram and
TikTok.
The uh you have to tell me theyear, but it's uh Ferrari 365
GTB4C.
So we'd love to hear about it.
I I think I know what the Cstands for, but I I think our

(30:57):
listeners and Christian wouldlike to understand that whole
line and and what thesignificance of that model is.

SPEAKER_00 (31:06):
Uh so that is the uh the Daytona, so the uh Ferrari
Daytona, but the competitionversion.
So it's the comp Daytona.
And um those were basically 1969to like 73.
Um, so the Daytona's are sointeresting.
They're one of my favorite cars.

(31:27):
Uh basically there were about1,300 Daytonas made, uh, and
they Ferrari only made 122 uhDaytona spiders, but they only
made 15 comp Daytonas.
And there was a prototype, andthen there were a few

(31:48):
conversions done in period.
Uh, but original there's only15, and it was uh five each
year.
So there's three series of them.
So um the series one, two, andthree have some slight
differences, all alloy versus umalloy, you know, doors and all
that kind of thing.

(32:08):
Uh, but they're just the mostincredible cars.
I mean, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 (32:14):
And what what year is yours?

SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
Mine?
I wish I had one.

SPEAKER_02 (32:19):
Oh, I thought I thought you did.
My my bad.
But that is your dream car then.
We kind of jumped ahead.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:24):
Yeah.
No, I would I would love.
I have uh six cars, and sadlynone of them are Comp Daytona,
but um, I would love to, I wouldlove to have one.

SPEAKER_02 (32:37):
Wow.
And have you uh have you driftactually this is more the broad
question.
What's it like to drive theseFerrari?
I'll say Ferraris just because,but you know, I I love the
exhaust note and the sound andjust in your videos, but what's
it like to drive those cars?
I mean, you look like you'rehaving a great time, but you

(32:59):
know, there's more to it thanthat behind the scenes, I'm
sure.

SPEAKER_00 (33:02):
Oh yeah, definitely.
I mean, I I love them.
So it depends on the car,they're all so unique, and
that's part of why I love themso much, is they have their own
personalities.
And so some cars, uh, so likethe Comte Daytona, for example.
The the Comp Daytona is uh frontengine V12 with no power

(33:26):
steering, so it's very heavy,it's kind of a freight train of
a car where if you need aparallel park or get around
slow, you're getting a workout.
It's it's a brute.
But when you get up to speed,that's where you really feel
connected.
I mean, first you feel the powerof it because it's a bigger car,

(33:47):
but you feel just, you know,it's it's a lot more agile and
it just comes to life.
And the no power steering givesyou a really good sense of
connection to the cart or theroad.
Just you feel everything.
Uh, and so I love it for that.
But a lot of people don't likethe Daytona because of the lack

(34:08):
of power steering, because it isa difficult car to drive uh
around town or at low speeds.
It's you know, it's a GT, it's agrand touring car.
Uh so you know, those cars aredefinitely a certain kind of
feel, but it's a like a moremasculine kind of car.
Whereas if you think of like a355 uh six speed, those are a

(34:33):
lot more light and nimble andkind of go-kardy.
And they they have less of aaggressive masculine sound to
them.
They have a much more kind ofthat high-pitched uh, you know,
like you just feel like thespeed and the everything from

(34:53):
the sound of it.
Just I love them both, butthey're opposite kind of
spectrums.
So driving a Ferrari isn't likea one fits all.
It's each one is so unique, andthat's part of the fun of them.

SPEAKER_03 (35:08):
Yep.
That's so beautiful.
That's that's so interesting theway she just explained
connection and the different thedifferent kind of souls and
outputs and nodes of the car.
That's really neat.
We've I've never heard itdescribed that way.
That was that was great.

SPEAKER_02 (35:22):
Yeah, I and I I would say uh um having owned two
rear engine cars, like there'sjust something different about
having the engine in front ofyou versus behind you.
And and I'm not saying one'sbetter than the other, but it's
just so uh if you're used tohaving engine in front of you,
like 99.999% of everybody else,when you have it behind you,

(35:45):
it's just a differentexperience.

SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
It is, yeah, it is, especially with uh how some of
the cars are done, like the umthe Dino, it's not a very fast
or powerful car, but because theengine is right there behind
your head, it sounds amazing.
And it's just it's right there,you really feel connected to it,
and then it has a shorter shiftto it.

(36:09):
So while you're not actuallygoing that fast, you feel like
you're going really fast.
And I would rather drive a slowcar fast than a fast car slow
any day of the week.
So driving something like adino, and just when you're
sitting at the traffic light andit turns green and you're in a
dino, and you can really juststomp on it and you know, just

(36:32):
go through the gears and tryyour hardest, and you're still
not getting in trouble becauseyou're not going that fast.
It's so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 (36:41):
Love that.
Oh, so we we have a Ferraristory we didn't get a chance to
tell you about.
Um boy.
Was it uh what year was it,Christian?

SPEAKER_03 (36:50):
The fateful year of 2004.
We were each married in 2004,but luckily it was two different
women.
But yeah, please continue.

SPEAKER_02 (36:59):
So so Christian's wife wanted to get married in
Vegas.
I think it was her idea, notyours, right?
Correct, correct.
And so Christian's like, let'sdo a batch combined bachelor
party.
We just did it all.

SPEAKER_03 (37:14):
And uh we the problem with a bachelor party is
that only two people will fit ina Ferrari, but please continue
with the story.

SPEAKER_02 (37:22):
But that was just perfect.
So we rented a 1994 Ferrari 348Spider, which was an awesome car
to drive, it was incredible.
I don't recommend one withoutair conditioning in August in

(37:43):
Vegas.
Yes, when you've had a night ofdrinking before.
Oh no, I could not wait toreturn that car.
I hate to say it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
I just the morning was phenomenal.
Man, I forgot all about this.
But we went, yeah, we we pickedit up, paid an outrageous amount
of money, overinsured it, butthat when then we drove it to
Hoover Dam.

SPEAKER_01 (38:06):
That was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (38:07):
That was such a wonderful tip.
We should get pictures of thatup on the website.
Yeah, you're right.
Do we?
Do we?
Yeah, yeah, we should.
But that was really a lot offun.
Boy, everybody was talking to usat red lights.
We pulled up to the Venetian andwe looked like superstars.
Uh, too bad the license platebracket said dream car rentals,
which sort of blew the whole,you know, for those that that

(38:28):
checked out the rear.
But I forgot all about that.
Good times, good story.
But I want to talk about thefunnest automobile in history to
say its name, the Lancia deltaIntegrale.
Yep.
Let's hear about it.
What was it like?
How did you get it?
What did you do with it?
Where is it now?

SPEAKER_00 (38:46):
Uh, so I got it.
Um actually off bring a trailer.
Uh oh, look at you.
I've sold a few of them.
Uh the works cars, you know, sothe the factory group A cars.
And I fell in love with them.
Uh, the Delta Integral and thenthe uh Lancia 037 were two of my

(39:09):
favorites.
I mean, you gotta love Estratos,obviously that's you know, an
icon car, but there's somethingabout the uh 037 and then the
Delta Integral and the S4, um,which is kind of in between
those two.
I just loved it.
But the thing about the uh DeltaIntegral is when group B rally

(39:34):
racing was banned, the uh Lanciaalready had the Delta Integral
homologated and basically readyto go.
And so when group B was bannedand they went to Group A, Lancia
was like, here you go, we gotyou.
And all the other manufacturersdidn't have anything ready.

(39:55):
So the Delta Integral was andstill is the most winning rally
car of all time.
Uh and it's just awesome, it'ssuch a fun car.
Uh, they made four basicvariations: the eight valve, 16
valve, Evo one, and Evo two.
Mine is a very basic littleeight-valve, uh, but you don't

(40:19):
have to spend a whole bunch ofmoney to have a whole bunch of
fun.
And so, you know, this is on theless expensive end, which means
I could just romp around andenjoy it and not worry so much
about you know having a supercollectible Evo too.
Um, but these are also uh cambelt cars, and so it has it's

(40:44):
belt driven and it's a uhinterference engine, and the
belt snapped, and it so it's atthe shop right now getting a
whole top end rebuild.

SPEAKER_03 (40:58):
Mamma mia.

SPEAKER_00 (40:59):
Sorry, go ahead, which is not not cheap, but you
know, buy an 80s Italian car,they said it'll be fun, they
said.

SPEAKER_03 (41:09):
Yeah, but your face lights up when you talk about
it.
So there is that fantastic andgood deal.

SPEAKER_02 (41:15):
Yeah, I was just reading that it's the uh Italian
version, because you said Evo,it made me think uh Italian
version of a Subaru WRX orLancer Mitsubishi Lancer Evo.
So I guess it gets a lot ofcomparisons from that group B
rally.

SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And uh, I mean it's ahomologated rally car.
Um it's just so much fun.
It's I have it's funny becauseyou know I specialize in classic
Ferraris and all that, but Ihave a very eclectic personal
collection of cars.
Uh and most of them, besides thelancia, most of them are

(41:57):
extremely slow and just you kindof wouldn't expect it.
But that's some of the most fun,you know.
It's like, I mean, you know, itI prefer it that way.
I I drive fast exotic cars for aliving all the time.
And so slowing it down a littlebit.

(42:17):
And like one of my cars I'mworking on right now, I have a
1950 Willie's pickup truck.

SPEAKER_01 (42:23):
Oh, oh jealous.
Very nice awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (42:27):
You know, I have it pulled apart in my driveway
right now because I'm doing thefront brakes.
Uh, but you know, it's justgranny gear, just you know,
plunder down the road andeveryone stops and loves it.
And you know, I just lovedriving it.

SPEAKER_03 (42:45):
Nothing like a unique car to put a smile on
people's faces, it just happenseverywhere around the world.
It just happens.
Well, Colleen, this has been atreat as we guide the podcast
gently to the off-ramp.
I have one last question for youhere on the way out.
Your first car, the 1930 BMW,had a nickname.

(43:07):
What was the nickname?
Why did it have that nickname?

SPEAKER_00 (43:11):
I call it Sputter.
So I I name all my cars, um, mypersonal cars, and it just kind
of the way it runs and drives.
Yeah, it just it names justsometimes come to me for these

(43:35):
cars, and my BMW had to besputter.
Uh the other one is calledPutter.
Um, you know, my my uh lancia isuh Guido.

SPEAKER_03 (43:49):
Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 (43:50):
Um that is perfect.

SPEAKER_03 (43:52):
What was the Nissan Maxima?
We didn't even talk about theNissan Maxima, but what was its
name Max?

SPEAKER_00 (43:59):
Well, I had that for three days.
Uh so that didn't that didn'tlast long enough.

SPEAKER_03 (44:06):
Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (44:08):
But I mean I have uh uh 05 Tahoe her name is Betsy.
Um perfect, yeah.
Just and it fits.

SPEAKER_03 (44:17):
I love it.
Well, thank you for sharing allof that and and for sharing some
of your day with us.
This was a real treat.
She is Colleen.
Check her out atnextgenclassics.com.
Her social media, so the uhInstagram, the YouTube we talked
about, and if you look at thatsite again, nextgen dash
classics.com, you can look atthe inventory and learn more

(44:40):
about Colleen, who is a walkingencyclopedia for all things
Italian automotive.
She's sitting right now, butbelieve me, this is wonderful.
And we could sit here and talkto you all night, but we know
you have to feed those fish, andthen you have to have dinner
yourself.
So, Colleen, thank you formaking time and spending a
little bit of your day with us.
We really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 (45:02):
Thank you so much.
It's been great being here.

SPEAKER_03 (45:04):
Thank you.
Indeed.
You have just heard the highrevving, low mileage late model
heard around the worldauthoritative podcast on
automotive nostalgia.
He's Doug.
Reach him at Doug atCarsLove.com.
I'm Christian.
Reach me at Christian atCarsLove.com.
That was Colleen, and as I said,nextgen dash classics.com.

(45:25):
A lot of great stuff.
Check out her social medias.
If you like what you'relistening here, please follow
and tell a friend.
Uh check us out at carslove.comor our link tree at L-I-N-K-T-R
dot E slash Cars Loved.
Beautiful.
I am sure we will see you at thenext local car show, showroom,
race stripper concor.

(45:45):
We appreciate you taking a lapwith us, and we'll see you next
time.
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