October 21, 2025 • 38 mins
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What happens when a 16-year-old buys a doorless, topless Jeep Wrangler with Bar Mitzvah money, then inherits his dad's Tesla with no way to pay for it?
Rei Vardi turned a college student's nightmare into a thriving business. His 1995 Jeep Wrangler—complete with red rims, no airbags, and a top speed of 50 mph—taught him to love driving. But when his father's 2015 Tesla Model S became his problem to solve, Rei discovered that renting out electric vehicles was nearly impossible. Someone even robbed a bank in his car.
Instead of giving up, he built Eon Rides, a virtual fleet that's revolutionizing how we think about car sharing and electric vehicles.
In this episode, discover:
- The authentic joy of driving a "beautiful piece of junk" first car
- Why traditional car sharing fails (and what Ray did differently)
- How family, entrepreneurship, and automotive passion collide
- The surprising connection between a Jeep Wrangler and a Land Rover Defender named Sasha
Guest: Rei Vardi, Founder of Eon Rides (eonrides.com)
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SPEAKER_01 (00:03):
Welcome back to All the Cars I've Loved Before, your
authoritative podcast onautomotive nostalgia, where our
guests are unique.
Each auto has an era.
Every car tells its story.
So, you know, it's time to plugin, get a little grease on the
nails, and clip on that favoritecar themed t-shirt, hat, or
(00:25):
jacket.
And before we bring Doug in, Ihave to ask about the weather.
I have to know what the weatheris doing there because um here
in Florida, it's turned nice,it's turned humid, um, but if
live oaks drop leaves, I spent awhole lot of yesterday raking
leads, and I was on Amazon todaylooking to buy a brand new
(00:47):
high-performance metal-timedrake.
So let's bring our co-host inhere, Doug.
Doug, did you do any rakingtoday?
Or over the weekend?
SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
Uh no, I did not.
I was going up to I was in thecar all weekend, driving all
over, including going up to lookat a college.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Marathon man.
Marathon man.
And back all in one day.
Now, is endurance driving athing?
Is endurance driving a thing?
Because yeah, I remember.
What do you think?
Well, uh I think you would winthat if it was.
Yeah, so a little bit, and thisis a this is an exclusive scoop
that no one will care about.
(01:27):
Um I've known Doug for a longtime, and he had a a boat that
got a lot of use with hisfamily.
And when not ready.
Um, well, it's a better story ifI if if I pin the truth
slightly.
And Doug said, hey, there's thisboat sitting in my backyard.
Christian, come and get it.
And of course, I got nothingbetter to do.
(01:49):
So I drove a thousand miles,picked up the boat, and turned
around and drove a thousandmiles back.
In what was it?
I guess it was 2,000 miles in 48hours.
And I don't know if that'sendurance driving, but it was
probably 15, 16, 17 hours ofwheel turning time.
Thank you for not having theboat ready, and we had to prep
(02:09):
it in a driving rainstorm withabout a foot of mud inside of
it.
I really appreciate that.
But anyway, not a problem.
Not a problem.
I won't.
This is what we do for friends.
So that's that I'm glad I'm gladyou had a lot of fun with it.
All right.
Unexpected belly laugh.
We'll talk about that in anotherepisode.
But all right, our man with theplan got all the options and
(02:32):
fires on most of his cylinders,some of the time.
What's happening?
What's with the shirt?
What do we got?
What do we have?
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
What shirt do we have today?
This is I've not seen that.
Yeah, I haven't worn it in awhile.
So this is.
SPEAKER_01 (02:54):
Oh, that is really neat.
So at the bottom.
SPEAKER_00 (02:56):
And see 1981.
And the other side of the.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
Oh, uh okay, okay.
Do do the pirouette.
Let's let's go.
The first side of it has thelast says VIN, has the VIN
number, the last four digits ofmy VIN number.
So this was a semi-customizednumber.
Oh, it's a customized from uhDeLorean Motor Company.
Yeah.
They were selling them, and youput in your VIN number in your
year, and they produced you asemi-custom shirt.
(03:25):
That is lovely.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I'm all about thing, all right, so little cross
promotion here.
If you're listening to us, youwon't be able to see.
But if you're on YouTube and wecan tease this little piece out,
what I love about the shirt,okay, back up a shade.
And at the bottom where it says1981 or tilt it down, yeah, the
other back up, it has crossedpistons, which I have to say is
(03:50):
really, really clever.
Like cross swords, you know,like the Virginia Cavaliers or
something.
That is uh that is mostfantastic.
So, oh, let me ask you uh by wayof did you uh what was happening
in the garage this weekend?
Anything big?
I was raking leads.
What were you building?
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
Uh oh, I was all about I was on the road children
in college trying to figure outhow to get up to New Jersey to
pick up my DeLorean because it'snow fixed.
And I haven't made it up there.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
So it's uh it's on the list.
Uh tried to go to my uh 300 ZXbuddy who lives nearby and pick
up a uh starter uh diode.
Starter relay.
Okay.
And uh didn't make it over thereeither.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
So everyone I made a list of all the things I wanted
to do over the weekend, thisbeautiful list.
And I'm a compulsive list maker.
My lists have lists.
And I was getting ready to andthis clipboard, but you know,
friends and parties andget-togethers.
I only got five or six itemscrossed off the list.
So there's always next weekend.
(05:04):
Hey, that's right.
Beautiful stuff.
We gotta move on.
Cannot wait to get today'sguest.
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(05:26):
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Reviews on Apple Podcasts would be best.
Absolutely.
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Carrier Pigeon is also fine.
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I don't know why.
It must be the suet of the seed.
But moving on, gotta get today'sguest here in the show.
(06:48):
Hey, how about this for a theme?
I thought of a theme just now.
What is it?
Some batteries included.
Love it.
Now let's hear about how today'sguest made it into your virtual
garage.
SPEAKER_00 (07:03):
Yeah, so um, you know, I'm always looking at
different cars and different.
You have a billion friends, ithappens.
Electric cars.
And you know, I've thought aboutwhat am I going to do if I go
somewhere else and I can't drivemy own car traveling.
And you get used to your owncar.
(07:23):
You're used to it, you have toadapt, especially if you have an
electric car, going fromelectric car to a non-one.
I mean, you you did the oppositewhen you rented a Chevy Bolt.
And it was a big adjustment,wasn't it?
Indeed.
Indeed, it was.
Yeah, so we found this nicegentleman with a company.
Uh, hopefully I'm gonnapronounce it right, Ion Rides,
(07:45):
but it's uh Ray Vardy.
And uh he's got an EV ridesharing company that I will let
him explain much better how itworks.
SPEAKER_01 (07:55):
Ray, welcome to the show.
How are you today?
Hey guys, how are you doing?
Fantastic.
So much better that you're here.
And tell us a little bit aboutthis home office here.
I just see this welcoming space.
And heck, I think I want todrive by and and check email for
a little bit.
SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
Yeah, maybe you come work with us, co-work for a bit,
you know?
We got uh we're we're here basedin New York City.
Um, I this home office superlucky to have it's uh it's uh
it's it's the shortest commuteyou can find in New York.
So I uh I I sleep about 20 feetfrom here.
And so I've got this officespace here that my team comes
(08:34):
into, uh, and we all worktogether at home.
And it's it's it's sure beats awe work.
I'll put it that way.
SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
Dig it, talk about a one-stop shop.
So wow, tell us a little bitabout your company and what
you're into these days.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
So um I run Eon, uh, which iswhat we call the virtual fleet.
Uh, and essentially what we dois we connect unused cars,
specifically electric vehicles,with people who need to drive
them.
It's super simple.
Uh and kind of our whole claimto fame is that we integrate
(09:09):
directly with the cars systemsvia the car's APIs and network
connectivity.
And so what we try to do is tobasically make somebody else's
car your car for a short periodof time.
So unlike, you know, sharing acar in the traditional sense
where Christian, you have tomeet up with Doug and hand him
(09:30):
the keys and teach him how touse your car and kind of be his
24-7 support guide, uh, what wetry to do at Eon is just make
everything as seamless aspossible, as if you're driving
your own car, but everywhere.
And so we load your profile intothe car, you you just show up,
your phone becomes the key, youunlock the car from your phone,
(09:50):
uh, you kind of uh you get inand you go, and that's it.
It's super simple.
And because our team sees thevehicle and is speaking to the
vehicle directly, uh, youactually have 24-7 support
anywhere you need to drive.
Uh, you don't have to worry thatyou know, um Christian is
available to take your call, uh,even if you are driving
(10:10):
Christian's car.
So that's that's the basics ofwhat we do.
But you know, we grew fromessentially my dorm room a
couple of years ago to we nowhave Yeah, we now have about
2,000 cars across the countryand we're growing every day.
Beautiful.
Uh and we just we're we're inlove with uh with with making
the world a more shared, cleanerplace.
SPEAKER_01 (10:34):
I like that.
So yeah, in the the website, uhyou gotta go check this out,
eonrides.com, e-o-nr-i-d-e-s.com.
And then one thing when I was uhgetting ready to do the show
here is a little bit of prep.
It is so easy to navigate yoursite.
I was blown away how easy it wasget to, you know, the the the
the proposition of what youoffer, like you said, ease of
(10:57):
use getting into the car.
You're never on your own, youalways have resource, you can
call the phone, but then you'vegot this app that's helpful.
And and so so you are across thecountry.
You mentioned that before.
SPEAKER_02 (11:10):
Yeah, thanks so much.
Yeah, we coast to coast, um, andand essentially uh we we strive
to give people the accessibilityso that they can pick up a car
either at the airport or fromtheir neighbors', you know, uh
parking spot across the street.
Uh and we the whole the wholeidea is that the experience is
always the same.
(11:30):
One thing that you'll see if youdownload our app and your book
with us is that you're notrenting a specific person's car.
It's not Doug or Christian'scar.
You're renting an Eon.
You just choose the car that youwant, you show up, you get in,
you go, and then you've got 24-7support, anything you need.
Uh and it's really just thatsimple.
You we just try and simplify itbecause one of the things that
(11:52):
is has been great with theability to share cars is that
one, you know, if you have acar, you can make some money off
of it.
Everyone loves that.
But one of the challenges isthat not everybody knows how to
rent a car out effectively.
There's all these checks thatyou need to do.
There's pickup procedures thathave to be followed.
There's support during the trip.
(12:12):
And if you're just a you know,an individual and you're just
trying to rent out your car,you'll find you'll find that,
you know, sharing your car isnot like just, you know, lending
a hammer to a friend.
It's it's really you become yourown tiny car rental company.
Uh and that that just doesn'twork.
It's very challenging.
So our mission is we simplify,we do everything digitally so
(12:35):
that that way, you know, if youown a car and you're part of our
network, uh, it's as close topassive income as possible.
And if you're renting a car, mygosh, you just get in, go, it's
about as simple as it gets, uh,and everybody wins.
SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
Fantastic.
Now, you didn't say anythingabout the subscription, did you?
I'm seeing that on your siteright now.
Can you talk about that for aminute?
SPEAKER_02 (12:55):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So so many people are lookingfor an option in what we call
the medium term.
You know, maybe you are just newto town and you need a car for a
couple of months, or maybeyou're trying to test one out
for a few weeks before youdecide if you want to buy it.
Whatever your reason, we've gotthese kind of semi-long-term
cars uh options, thesesubscriptions, which are
(13:18):
basically like think about uhthink about it as a lease that
you can get out of it anytime,month to month or week to week.
Um pay as you go.
And then if you want to changeyour car, you can anytime.
Um, bring the car back.
We pick it up from you on thelonger rentals.
And it's as easy as that.
You don't have to buy a car nowto enjoy the same benefits.
SPEAKER_01 (13:39):
Yeah, that's that's that's really clutch here.
And from uh one thing I see inuh some of your reviews here, as
well as what's on your site,from booking to driving in
minutes.
So talk about how quickly thiscould happen.
Somebody, somebody lands in, um,uh, you know, lands at a city,
they pull up the app, boom.
And is is there kind of aproximity telling somebody how
(14:02):
how how close it is, and off yougo?
Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_02 (14:05):
So one of the things that we have right now is that
you can see exactly where thecar pickup location is on the
map before you book, et cetera,et cetera.
Yeah.
But the process is extremelysimple.
You book the car that you want.
Uh, you get, uh, if you're afirst-time user, you're gonna be
prompted to just upload yourinformation, your license, do a
quick face scan.
Uh, once you're verified, uh, wego, we take you through a
(14:27):
tutorial.
So this is something that onlywe do, which is we teach you
about everything that you needto know about this car before
you arrive.
So you don't even you don't haveto talk to anybody.
You ever go to like uh an Airbnband you get like this huge list
of instructions from the owner?
And then you you know, youimmediately ignore it.
You just completely say, okay,that's nice, you know, less it
(14:48):
in the garbage, and then youknow, the next night, you know,
when it's four in the morning,your toaster's not working,
you're like, crap.
Yeah, so what we do is we weactually give you a super
simple, like we walk you throughit with gifts.
It takes like one minute, youknow, you go through, got it,
got it, got it, got it.
We give you a short little quizjust to make sure you understood
everything you need to know.
And then you just get in and wejust find that it's the easiest
(15:10):
thing in the world.
Even if you've never been tothis place before, never been in
this type of car, electric cars,especially.
A lot of people, you know, forsure, they might not be familiar
with all the quirks of theelectric cars, guides them
through everything, supersimple.
Uh, and then bam, your phone'syour key.
You walk away from the car,there you're that's it.
The car locks, you're done.
(15:30):
So the whole point is just keepit simple.
And our vision is that you canpersonalize your experience
anywhere you go.
Christian, you can't bring yourcar to New York when you travel,
you know, when you fly, but youcan bring your eon.
And that's that's kind of thepoint.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
Love it.
Yeah.
And there they there is alwayselegance and simplicity.
And again, go check out thewebsite, Eon Rides,
eonrides.com.
And it's uh set up here.
Choose your EV rental, verystraightforward.
Got the app for that.
Instant confirmation, no waitingaround.
Arrive and go.
No one wants to wait at a rentalcar at a rental car counter.
(16:11):
And you'll have access to 24 by7 access and delivery, right?
They have guides, around theclock support.
Crucial, crucial.
Skip the recharging.
Hassle, seamless control at yourfingertips.
Breeze through tolls.
I mean, I just paid, I gottatell you, I there was a uh a
charge on my credit card thismorning for Sunpass.
(16:32):
I live here in in the panhandleof Florida, and I got this
charge.
I said, what is this charge for?
And so I had to get throughemail and then kind of verify,
oh, well, I spent, you know, Iwas in Orlando and spent$80 on
tolls and I figure all this kindof stuff out.
They're gonna figure all thisout for you.
Okay.
So anyway, sorry, didn't mean togush.
(16:54):
I'm gonna hand it over to Doug,who is going to, he's going to
fit Ray into a gas-powered carthat goes 88 miles an hour.
We're gonna scoot right backinto the past and thank you for
that, Ray.
Let's hand it over to Doug.
SPEAKER_00 (17:07):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Christian.
Wonderful introduction, asalways.
So, Ray, um, tell us about yourfirst car.
How old were you?
What it what was it?
And uh then we'll we'll chatabout some things you did in the
car, how you acquired the car.
SPEAKER_01 (17:25):
Things you shouldn't have done in that car, number
one.
SPEAKER_02 (17:27):
Well, oh man.
Um, yeah, man, you guys aretaking me back.
This is uh so my first car was a1995 Jeep Wrangler.
It was a four-cylinder manualtransmission, had no airbags, no
top, no doors, uh, it had drumbrakes, so they were super
(17:48):
unresponsive.
Uh the car could only go like 50miles an hour.
So I was a nuisance to people onthe freeway.
Um basically what happened isthat, you know, um, when I was
13, I had my bar mitzvah.
And so um in standard fashion,when everybody asked me what
what I wanted for my barmitzvah, I said money.
(18:09):
So I was collecting, you know,100 bucks here, 200 bucks there,
put that into uh a savingsaccount that my dad may or may
not have manipulated.
I'm not sure.
But lo and behold, I was 16, Ihad$3,000 to spend on a car.
Uh, and I was I was you know,trudging along on Craigslist,
and I find this beauty, youknow, this matte black, uh
(18:31):
beat-up looking Jeep Wranglerwith red rims, you know, the
wheels had these red rims, and Iwas like, that's all right nice
accent, nice touch.
SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
Nice accent.
Yeah, why not?
SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
It has a little, you know, something happened there.
So um, so I I was living inThousand Oaks at the time, which
is like a suburb a little northof Los Angeles, and the car was
in Torrance, you know, which isuh it's kind of a jump over.
And of course, the the Queen'sassads had cash on me.
So I just like I remember my dadand I go into the bank and he's
(19:06):
just you know pulling out all mymoney and hundred dollar bills.
And uh, you know, we we drive ondown to Torrance and uh and you
know, frankly, we we meet upwith this gangster, right?
He's got like uh hood, and like,you know, he's he's he's just
being a little sketchy.
He's like, Yeah, you know, let'smake this quick, you know, let's
(19:26):
do it here in the parking lot,you know.
Uh so we're just like, okay,sure, yeah, no, no problem.
Here's the money, let's go.
He's like, cool.
He gives us the keys, theregistration, the title.
I was I felt I was exhilarated,you know.
I was like, this is great, thisis how business is done.
And so uh I get this car back.
Uh at this point, I can't evendrive it, you know.
So um my dad parks his car.
(19:47):
We drive my car back.
And then, you know, he's got tocome back and get his car back.
Okay, yeah.
And so, you know, spent the nextcouple of uh weeks learning how
to drive stick on this car, andI fell in love with it.
It was one of my favorite thingsever.
It was um to this day I missthat thought.
SPEAKER_00 (20:04):
Yeah.
There's there's something abouta Jeep, there's something about
a Volkswagen.
Um, I've owned several Jeeps,CJ7, a couple Wranglers, I
think, as well.
And yeah, I guess living in LA,you don't need a top, you don't
need doors.
It doesn't rain.
SPEAKER_01 (20:20):
I mean, you're incredibly what did you own when
I first met you?
What was that yellow hulkingthing?
Oh, was that the that was theCJ7?
That thing was bucket.
Yeah, the doors were were ducttape, they were just like great,
great tape-together doors.
Beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
They were vinyl doors back then.
No, they weren't duct tape, butthey were they were vinyl with
duct tape.
Get it right.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
Gray trim.
Yeah, it was the sporty graytrim edition.
Sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Didn't mean to interrupt.
No, it was the rusty, rustytrim.
But uh no, that was uh that wasa cool Jeep, and uh I sold it to
my roommate when I moved to NewJersey for work.
I told him he might want to dosomething with the transmission.
He never did.
I think he put a new engine init.
He drove it all the way to NewMexico and the transmission went
up.
Jeez, that wasn't Adam, was it?
(21:10):
No, no, this was uh Chris withPhil House.
Gotcha, gotcha, okay.
Yep, and he ended up selling itfor twelve hundred bucks.
But he had a good time.
He got it made it all the way toNew Mexico pretty good for early
uh 80s Jeep.
And uh yeah, it was just it wasfun, but uh it uh it had its
quirks and features.
(21:32):
Uh if you if you will, like allJeeps.
It's uh as they say, it's a Jeepthing, right?
SPEAKER_01 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah.
So let me squeeze in here realquick before it Ray says in his
in some of the documentationthat he sent us before the show,
uh it we he says it was such anauthentic and beautiful piece of
junk.
No airbags, no doors, manualtransmission that couldn't go
beyond 50 miles per hour.
(21:59):
Well worn, well loved.
I mean, that's that's what yougotta have for a first car,
right, Ray?
Oh, it was perfect.
Super dangerous.
Definitely don't do that for a16-year-old, you know.
Right, right.
But it makes you appreciateeverything after, man.
I you know, if you if you hadyou can't give a kid top of the,
you just gotta bring him throughthe stack, I feel.
You know?
SPEAKER_02 (22:18):
Yeah.
And and honestly, you I don'tget the high from any car that
I've driven since that that cargives me.
That high of just, you know,just feeling like you're just
connected to the mechanics ofthe car, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (22:31):
Yeah, yes.
Yep.
It's a it's a big change.
Even the new Jeeps are not likethat.
SPEAKER_02 (22:38):
They don't feel at all like that.
The that old Wrangler, you know,when you when you put in the
shift and it grinds, you know,and you're like, ah, I gotta do
this better.
That's a good feeling.
You know, you feel like you'reyou're learning.
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
Yeah, you're working, you're working it,
right?
You're working, making it workfor you, but slash vice versa.
And it's it's funny youmentioned bar mitzvah money.
Um uh I actually took my barmitzvah money and I used it to
help me buy my firstconvertible, which was a Miata.
Um yeah, so I I guess there's atrend.
(23:10):
Bar mitzvah money for cars.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
A lesson to all the Jewish boys.
You know, my brother was silly.
He spent he spent it on a on analienware computer, and then and
then lo and behold, you know,when I went off to college,
suddenly gets guess who gets todrive my car for free.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
That's what I was gonna say.
The Jeep got passed down to yourbrother.
SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
Love the hand-me-downs.
Love the hand-me-downs.
I got rattled t-shirts, he got aJeep, lucky guy.
SPEAKER_00 (23:32):
What what um what ultimately happened to the Jeep
after your uh your brother wasusing it?
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Well, when he went to college, he we we sold it,
you know.
Okay, uh, there was no one leftto drive it.
Uh, but we sold it for moremoney than we bought it for.
Yeah, it's kind of amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (23:49):
Jeeps hold their value.
It it's amazing.
They all do.
People people love them, andpeople also get tired of them
and sell them and usually breakeven or make money.
So it was a good invest, solidinvestment here.
SPEAKER_02 (24:04):
Honestly, yeah, go ahead, right?
Absolutely.
No, no, no, it was great.
And you know, driving that thingat the time was like it was the
kind of thing where you couldhave like 10 of your friends
pile up, and you know, you ranout of room, so they would just
stand and hold the bars, youknow, that kind of thing.
Just like St.
SPEAKER_01 (24:19):
Elmo's Fire.
That's a scene right out of St.
Elmo's Fire.
SPEAKER_02 (24:22):
Perfect.
You know, that's what that'swhat it felt like.
We've we felt so cool.
We'd play Indiana Jones from thespeakers as we'd ride around,
you know.
For Halloween, we did a JurassicPark remake with it, you know,
one guy dressed as a T-Rex andchased us in the car.
It was great.
Too good.
All these memories.
SPEAKER_00 (24:38):
I hope a lot of kids saw those.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
Oh, yeah.
Yes, it was we went to the tothe cool desec where all all the
families were, they loved it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
Yeah, that's awesome.
So, so you sold the Jeep orpassed it down, the Jeep got
sold.
But what was your second car?
That was well, my second cartechnically.
SPEAKER_02 (24:59):
Technically, I haven't really bought a car
personally ever since.
Because what what happened wasthat while I was in college,
right?
My this was around 2014.
Um, 2015, my dad bought thisTesla Model S, 2015 Tesla Model
S.
Uh, and at the time, this waslike the coolest thing you'd
(25:20):
ever seen.
This was like a quantum leapforward with cars, especially
going from a manual transmissionto a car that just, you know,
um, it was it was high-end.
And so, you know, he was drivingthat for a bit.
And every time I'd go home tospend time with my family, it
was like this was the coolestthing ever.
Then around 2018, um, my dadmoved to, you know, another part
(25:46):
of the country for work.
He moved to Chicago for a bit.
And he didn't need the car.
And so his plan was to sell it,you know, uh to give it up.
And I was, even though it wasn'tmy car, I just thought it was so
freaking cool.
I was like, listen, I'll let'smake a deal, right?
You uh instead of you gettingrid of this awesome piece of
tech, give it to me and I'llfigure out a way to pay you on
(26:08):
the financing, you know.
By the way, college student, noincome, had no plan to have
income.
I was just like, let's just doit, right?
And my dad was like, okay, youknow.
So he'll learn the hard way, Iguess.
You know, that was his thinkingon it.
Um, and as soon as I got that,first of all, the first the
first two weeks were so funbecause I was the kid in college
(26:30):
with this brand new Tesla whenTesla was nothing yet, you know?
And then immediately it justbecame obvious that this was a
terrible mistake, you know.
How am I gonna pay, you know,what's really the equivalent of
rent for me uh in college withno plans?
So immediately I just startedfinding ways to monetize this
thing.
And I was, you know, at first Itried to like Uber for a little
(26:54):
bit, that didn't work.
Uh and then I then I startedrenting the car out, and that
really didn't work.
That was a terrible idea.
Um I I found out the hard waythat you know, trying to rent
out a car when you've got noexperiences or resources is like
you might as well, you know,slam your head into a wall for
all the good it's gonna do you.
(27:15):
In fact, you're probably gonnalose less money on slamming your
head into the wall.
So um but anyway, I still I keptwith it.
I I tried, you know, for for agood year, you know, I I did
everything I could, and and Ijust found that renting a car is
is horrible.
It's you know, I was dealingwith just I was skipping classes
to hand off the keys to people.
(27:36):
You know, I was being woken upin the middle of the night all
hours, uh answering my customersand trying to teach them how to
use the car.
One time I had a date that I'vebeen so excited for for like
months, and I get a call thatthe guy's like stuck in in New
Hampshire, it's negative 10degrees outside.
You know, he's he needs help,and it's like the whole thing
(27:57):
goes sideways.
Um, I mean, the car came backsmoked in, dented, you know,
somebody robbed a bank in mycar.
Yeah, someone robbed a bank inmy car, you know, it's a good
getaway car.
Except the fact you can track iton the on the app, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
Which makes it robbers worse than robbers so
bad to think of these things.
Well, you go you go where themoney is, right?
Yeah, that's where the banksused to have money in there.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
So anyway, I mean that whole thing happened, and
then I just realized, you know,this is this is tough.
This there's gotta be a betterway of of doing it.
And that's where this the ideaof eon came about.
And then basically from my lastyear in college up until now,
I've been building the system toshare out these electric cars.
Uh and and that's where we aretoday.
(28:47):
Same that whole path, you know,from uh from my dad trying to
get rid of his car.
SPEAKER_00 (28:57):
Great tail.
Yep.
Great tail.
When there's a will, there's away, and you know, it's a family
thing.
And real quick, your dad isinvolved in a car business as
well, right?
He's an entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
Yeah, honestly, I think the only way that he
trusted me enough to like makehim that crazy Oscar to give me
his his you know, pretty newTesla at the time, was uh back
in 2014, before I even went offto school, still in high school,
my dad had this idea of uh heloves camping.
So he took this, these uh theseminivans and basically built
(29:32):
these conversion kits, which hecould put into the minivans and
turn them into campers, right?
So it would still be a minivan,not like a big RV, but like just
a minivan that you could parkanywhere, drive it around
normally.
But the whole back turns into abed, you've got, you know, like
a camping shower, a full tableset, cooking stove, everything
comes packed in.
(29:53):
And so at the time it was kindof a hobby.
We built this out, and then mydad kind of went with that as
well.
And now he rents these out.
All over the country.
So uh it kind of goes in thefamily DNA at this point, you
know, just sharing sharing carsand being a part of the part of
the ecosystem.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure your dad's proudof you.
Thank you.
I'm proud of him.
Yeah.
And I love that.
Hopefully we can have your dadon the show and we'll have him
talk about you.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
He's awesome.
Well, maybe not.
He'll tell all the bad stories.
Okay.
Well, hear that, listeners.
We're we're we'll take yoursons, we'll take daughters,
(30:31):
we'll take your grandparents.
We we want family stories.
SPEAKER_01 (30:36):
It's all about family.
Doug likes to say the show is isuh all about family.
It is we we've had a father andson tandem on, and it's just
really wonderful.
And it's a lot of people.
Father, daughters recently.
Yeah.
Couple.
And more, more, more in thequeue.
So all the stories that tumbleout and all the smiles on the
(30:56):
faces.
Smiles per gallon, we like tocall it.
SPEAKER_00 (30:59):
Yeah.
So uh Ray, I know your currentcar is not exactly a car.
Um york city.
Not easy, but of course you haveaccess to thousands, several
thousand.
Um what is your current vehicleof choice that you use to get
around?
SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Yeah, so I I I kind of found the best New York hack,
which is I have a really, youknow, just a ridiculously
overpowered e-bike.
Um, most people see it, theythink it's a motorcycle.
It's a Segway Zyber, just cameout.
Um, you know, Segway the ScooterCompany.
They they built this e-bike.
And uh this thing has just beenfor New York City, it's the
(31:39):
best.
You get everywhere about twiceas fast as you know, the subway
or or on a bicycle.
So for the day to day, like inthe city, this is this is great.
It's it's really tough having acar in Manhattan.
Uh, so this is like the nextbest alternative.
SPEAKER_00 (31:55):
Nice, nice.
SPEAKER_02 (31:56):
And then anytime I need to get out of the city, you
can use the bike lanes.
That's the that's the key point.
And then you know, anytime youneed to get out of the city,
we've got the Eon app.
So we just pop into one ofthose, go to the Hamptons, go
upstate, wherever you want togo.
SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
Awesome.
Well, you pick the you pick theright place to live and do your
do your testing there, markettesting, if you will.
Definitely.
SPEAKER_01 (32:19):
Speaking of, okay, perfect segue, not only the one
that he rides, but the kind weuse here in media.
Let's talk about some reviewsfrom the side before we rant
this thing down.
Come on, you you you you have togive this company a try.
Don't go to those main players.
Stand at the desk, then you goto the parking garage, you stand
there another 45 minutes.
(32:39):
Maybe you get the car, you know,maybe you don't.
Listen to these reviews.
Had an amazing rentalexperience.
Communication was on point.
Car was a blast to drive, wouldrecommend.
Here's another one from Terry W.
Just grab the car from one ofthe spots near me.
It's a million times better thankeeping a car at the house, you
bet.
Uh, here's another.
Hire uh pick up his car for thefamily road trip using eon as a
(33:01):
highlight of the vacation.
And last one from Stevie R.
Every time is easy and smooth,including if you want to extend
the time.
That's crucial.
Last time I had to do at thatwith a rental company, say
goodbye to 45 minutes and a lotof frustration.
Uh Stevie continues.
I highly recommend if you wantuh to experience an EV in New
(33:24):
York.
Well, partner, I tell you what,I think we're we're about coming
up on time.
So as we guide the podcastgently to the off-ramp, I got
one for you on the way out here,Ray.
Um, now, your mom doesn't workfor you, and she doesn't have an
electric car, but she might haveone of the coolest rides around.
(33:44):
You didn't oversell it.
Let's hear a bit about that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Oh, yeah, no problem.
Well, some might say I workedfor my mom, you know.
That's that's how it is withJewish boys at the end of the
day.
Absolutely.
Um, but no, all jokes aside, formy mom's 50th birthday, uh,
basically a whole family gottogether and surprised her.
Her favorite car, her whole lifehas been uh a Land Rover
defender.
So what we did is over atwo-year process, this had to
(34:10):
be, you know, built from theground up for over some time.
Um, we had this custom-builtLand Rover defender restored
from the 80s to be, you know,completely redone.
Still has the same, you know,aesthetic and the same
authenticity of back then, butrenewed and renovated for the
(34:31):
current age, you know, all theall the bells and whistles, but
still the real deal.
It's uh it's a white with acream interior.
Um, we call it Sasha.
And it's it's just been thefamily kind of uh it's like a
family point of pride.
We love this thing, and I thinkeverybody's got that one device
or that one thing that they justvalue as part of their family.
(34:55):
You know, for some people it'suh it's a it's like an heirloom.
SPEAKER_01 (34:58):
For other people, it's you know, um, for us this
is a great word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a great word, heirloom.
Like like you were sayingbefore, these things get passed
down through the family, youknow?
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Yeah.
Um yeah.
And it's just like uhaesthetically, it it's like her
whole vision of what she loves.
Uh and and so that was her giftfor her 50th.
And you know, um, I I would saythat's that's maybe the coolest
car I've ever seen in my life.
And I'm so happy I can try itriding it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful in the retail.
Yeah, the thing about LandRovers, man, especially that
vintage, they look like they cantake on the world.
I mean, like they could just topunch a hole in a wall.
And yet, you know, very refinedonce you get inside and for
their time, you know, luxuryabsolute.
So, Ray, uh let me ask you thisone.
(35:48):
I said that was the lastquestion, but let me ask you one
more surprise question.
What do you like most about yourjob?
Because there's been a smile onyour face the whole time you've
been talking about your company.
What do you like most about it?
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
Um, you know, my favorite thing is is being able
to look, I I went to school forbiomedical engineering.
I never thought, I really neverthought I'd I never thought I'd
get into entrepreneurship.
I never thought that I'd getinto uh cars specifically as
much as like, you know, we'veloved it.
I loved cars growing up.
(36:23):
Uh I just didn't expect that tobe the way that my life would
play out.
And the thing that makes me sohappy is just being able to have
a vision in the world, know thatlike we're going after it and
that we are actually able tomake other people's lives
better, you know?
And and it's not just like uhand I know it's like kind of a
(36:43):
key kitsch, like nice thing yousay that maybe every founder
says, but just the ability ofseeing that my teammates love
what they do and love that we'rebuilding something that's really
cool and the small fleet ownersthat you know have a small fleet
of cars and that we're able tomake them successful.
It's it's like it's the bestfeeling in the world.
SPEAKER_01 (37:02):
Well, yeah, and it says a lot about you that you've
opened your beautiful home, thathome office there that people
come in.
So you're obviously all aboutfamily togetherness and seeing
it through together.
So we want to thank you forspending some of your time with
us here today.
It was an absolute pleasure tomeet you.
We appreciate it.
You guys rock.
Thank you.
I had so much fun.
We had a blast.
(37:23):
Thank you.
You're welcome here anytime.
So you have just heard, oh, hewas Ray.
And let's see, check him out ateonrise.com.
E-O-N-R-I-D-E-E-S dot com.
Trust me, it's a new way ofdoing it.
It's a better mousetrap.
You gotta check it out.
Eo-n-r-i-d-e-s.com.
That was Ray, and you have justheard the high revving, low
(37:44):
mileage, late model heard roundthe world authoritative podcast
on automotive nostalgia.
He's Doug.
Reach him at Doug atCarslove.com.
I'm Christian.
Reach me at Christian atCarslove.com.
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(38:11):
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He always hits his mark, nomatter how unready I try and
make him.
I am sure we will see you at thenext local car show, showroom,
race trip, or concor.
We appreciate your listening.
We'll see you next time.
Welcome back to All the Cars I've Loved Before, your
authoritative podcast onautomotive nostalgia, where our
guests are unique.
Each auto has an era.
Every car tells its story.
So, you know, it's time to plugin, get a little grease on the
nails, and clip on that favoritecar themed t-shirt, hat, or
(00:25):
jacket.
And before we bring Doug in, Ihave to ask about the weather.
I have to know what the weatheris doing there because um here
in Florida, it's turned nice,it's turned humid, um, but if
live oaks drop leaves, I spent awhole lot of yesterday raking
leads, and I was on Amazon todaylooking to buy a brand new
(00:47):
high-performance metal-timedrake.
So let's bring our co-host inhere, Doug.
Doug, did you do any rakingtoday?
Or over the weekend?
SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
Uh no, I did not.
I was going up to I was in thecar all weekend, driving all
over, including going up to lookat a college.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Marathon man.
Marathon man.
And back all in one day.
Now, is endurance driving athing?
Is endurance driving a thing?
Because yeah, I remember.
What do you think?
Well, uh I think you would winthat if it was.
Yeah, so a little bit, and thisis a this is an exclusive scoop
that no one will care about.
(01:27):
Um I've known Doug for a longtime, and he had a a boat that
got a lot of use with hisfamily.
And when not ready.
Um, well, it's a better story ifI if if I pin the truth
slightly.
And Doug said, hey, there's thisboat sitting in my backyard.
Christian, come and get it.
And of course, I got nothingbetter to do.
(01:49):
So I drove a thousand miles,picked up the boat, and turned
around and drove a thousandmiles back.
In what was it?
I guess it was 2,000 miles in 48hours.
And I don't know if that'sendurance driving, but it was
probably 15, 16, 17 hours ofwheel turning time.
Thank you for not having theboat ready, and we had to prep
(02:09):
it in a driving rainstorm withabout a foot of mud inside of
it.
I really appreciate that.
But anyway, not a problem.
Not a problem.
I won't.
This is what we do for friends.
So that's that I'm glad I'm gladyou had a lot of fun with it.
All right.
Unexpected belly laugh.
We'll talk about that in anotherepisode.
But all right, our man with theplan got all the options and
(02:32):
fires on most of his cylinders,some of the time.
What's happening?
What's with the shirt?
What do we got?
What do we have?
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
What shirt do we have today?
This is I've not seen that.
Yeah, I haven't worn it in awhile.
So this is.
SPEAKER_01 (02:54):
Oh, that is really neat.
So at the bottom.
SPEAKER_00 (02:56):
And see 1981.
And the other side of the.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
Oh, uh okay, okay.
Do do the pirouette.
Let's let's go.
The first side of it has thelast says VIN, has the VIN
number, the last four digits ofmy VIN number.
So this was a semi-customizednumber.
Oh, it's a customized from uhDeLorean Motor Company.
Yeah.
They were selling them, and youput in your VIN number in your
year, and they produced you asemi-custom shirt.
(03:25):
That is lovely.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I'm all about thing, all right, so little cross
promotion here.
If you're listening to us, youwon't be able to see.
But if you're on YouTube and wecan tease this little piece out,
what I love about the shirt,okay, back up a shade.
And at the bottom where it says1981 or tilt it down, yeah, the
other back up, it has crossedpistons, which I have to say is
(03:50):
really, really clever.
Like cross swords, you know,like the Virginia Cavaliers or
something.
That is uh that is mostfantastic.
So, oh, let me ask you uh by wayof did you uh what was happening
in the garage this weekend?
Anything big?
I was raking leads.
What were you building?
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
Uh oh, I was all about I was on the road children
in college trying to figure outhow to get up to New Jersey to
pick up my DeLorean because it'snow fixed.
And I haven't made it up there.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
So it's uh it's on the list.
Uh tried to go to my uh 300 ZXbuddy who lives nearby and pick
up a uh starter uh diode.
Starter relay.
Okay.
And uh didn't make it over thereeither.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
So everyone I made a list of all the things I wanted
to do over the weekend, thisbeautiful list.
And I'm a compulsive list maker.
My lists have lists.
And I was getting ready to andthis clipboard, but you know,
friends and parties andget-togethers.
I only got five or six itemscrossed off the list.
So there's always next weekend.
(05:04):
Hey, that's right.
Beautiful stuff.
We gotta move on.
Cannot wait to get today'sguest.
Very exciting, but gotta say, ifyou like what you hear, tell a
family member, coworker, friend,tell an enemy.
We don't care.
Because you know what we do?
We bring people together on thisshow all over the world.
Yes, we are heard um what?
(05:26):
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Uh, do penguins get Wi-Fi?
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(05:47):
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Let's see, on podcast uhpodcastering platform of choice,
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What's that?
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
Reviews on Apple Podcasts would be best.
Absolutely.
We'll take emails, we'll taketext, you can actually send us a
text uh directly through the umthrough the podcast itself.
When you go to your podcasteringplatform of choice, find our
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You'll be there'll be a techthere'll be a link where you can
(06:24):
send a text directly to ourinboxes.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (06:27):
And email works.
It does.
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CarsLove.com.
Uh you can catch us regular mailat one Cars Talk Plaza.
Carrier Pigeon is also fine.
They always end up at Doug'shouse.
I don't know why.
It must be the suet of the seed.
But moving on, gotta get today'sguest here in the show.
(06:48):
Hey, how about this for a theme?
I thought of a theme just now.
What is it?
Some batteries included.
Love it.
Now let's hear about how today'sguest made it into your virtual
garage.
SPEAKER_00 (07:03):
Yeah, so um, you know, I'm always looking at
different cars and different.
You have a billion friends, ithappens.
Electric cars.
And you know, I've thought aboutwhat am I going to do if I go
somewhere else and I can't drivemy own car traveling.
And you get used to your owncar.
(07:23):
You're used to it, you have toadapt, especially if you have an
electric car, going fromelectric car to a non-one.
I mean, you you did the oppositewhen you rented a Chevy Bolt.
And it was a big adjustment,wasn't it?
Indeed.
Indeed, it was.
Yeah, so we found this nicegentleman with a company.
Uh, hopefully I'm gonnapronounce it right, Ion Rides,
(07:45):
but it's uh Ray Vardy.
And uh he's got an EV ridesharing company that I will let
him explain much better how itworks.
SPEAKER_01 (07:55):
Ray, welcome to the show.
How are you today?
Hey guys, how are you doing?
Fantastic.
So much better that you're here.
And tell us a little bit aboutthis home office here.
I just see this welcoming space.
And heck, I think I want todrive by and and check email for
a little bit.
SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
Yeah, maybe you come work with us, co-work for a bit,
you know?
We got uh we're we're here basedin New York City.
Um, I this home office superlucky to have it's uh it's uh
it's it's the shortest commuteyou can find in New York.
So I uh I I sleep about 20 feetfrom here.
And so I've got this officespace here that my team comes
(08:34):
into, uh, and we all worktogether at home.
And it's it's it's sure beats awe work.
I'll put it that way.
SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
Dig it, talk about a one-stop shop.
So wow, tell us a little bitabout your company and what
you're into these days.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
So um I run Eon, uh, which iswhat we call the virtual fleet.
Uh, and essentially what we dois we connect unused cars,
specifically electric vehicles,with people who need to drive
them.
It's super simple.
Uh and kind of our whole claimto fame is that we integrate
(09:09):
directly with the cars systemsvia the car's APIs and network
connectivity.
And so what we try to do is tobasically make somebody else's
car your car for a short periodof time.
So unlike, you know, sharing acar in the traditional sense
where Christian, you have tomeet up with Doug and hand him
(09:30):
the keys and teach him how touse your car and kind of be his
24-7 support guide, uh, what wetry to do at Eon is just make
everything as seamless aspossible, as if you're driving
your own car, but everywhere.
And so we load your profile intothe car, you you just show up,
your phone becomes the key, youunlock the car from your phone,
(09:50):
uh, you kind of uh you get inand you go, and that's it.
It's super simple.
And because our team sees thevehicle and is speaking to the
vehicle directly, uh, youactually have 24-7 support
anywhere you need to drive.
Uh, you don't have to worry thatyou know, um Christian is
available to take your call, uh,even if you are driving
(10:10):
Christian's car.
So that's that's the basics ofwhat we do.
But you know, we grew fromessentially my dorm room a
couple of years ago to we nowhave Yeah, we now have about
2,000 cars across the countryand we're growing every day.
Beautiful.
Uh and we just we're we're inlove with uh with with making
the world a more shared, cleanerplace.
SPEAKER_01 (10:34):
I like that.
So yeah, in the the website, uhyou gotta go check this out,
eonrides.com, e-o-nr-i-d-e-s.com.
And then one thing when I was uhgetting ready to do the show
here is a little bit of prep.
It is so easy to navigate yoursite.
I was blown away how easy it wasget to, you know, the the the
the proposition of what youoffer, like you said, ease of
(10:57):
use getting into the car.
You're never on your own, youalways have resource, you can
call the phone, but then you'vegot this app that's helpful.
And and so so you are across thecountry.
You mentioned that before.
SPEAKER_02 (11:10):
Yeah, thanks so much.
Yeah, we coast to coast, um, andand essentially uh we we strive
to give people the accessibilityso that they can pick up a car
either at the airport or fromtheir neighbors', you know, uh
parking spot across the street.
Uh and we the whole the wholeidea is that the experience is
always the same.
(11:30):
One thing that you'll see if youdownload our app and your book
with us is that you're notrenting a specific person's car.
It's not Doug or Christian'scar.
You're renting an Eon.
You just choose the car that youwant, you show up, you get in,
you go, and then you've got 24-7support, anything you need.
Uh and it's really just thatsimple.
You we just try and simplify itbecause one of the things that
(11:52):
is has been great with theability to share cars is that
one, you know, if you have acar, you can make some money off
of it.
Everyone loves that.
But one of the challenges isthat not everybody knows how to
rent a car out effectively.
There's all these checks thatyou need to do.
There's pickup procedures thathave to be followed.
There's support during the trip.
(12:12):
And if you're just a you know,an individual and you're just
trying to rent out your car,you'll find you'll find that,
you know, sharing your car isnot like just, you know, lending
a hammer to a friend.
It's it's really you become yourown tiny car rental company.
Uh and that that just doesn'twork.
It's very challenging.
So our mission is we simplify,we do everything digitally so
(12:35):
that that way, you know, if youown a car and you're part of our
network, uh, it's as close topassive income as possible.
And if you're renting a car, mygosh, you just get in, go, it's
about as simple as it gets, uh,and everybody wins.
SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
Fantastic.
Now, you didn't say anythingabout the subscription, did you?
I'm seeing that on your siteright now.
Can you talk about that for aminute?
SPEAKER_02 (12:55):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So so many people are lookingfor an option in what we call
the medium term.
You know, maybe you are just newto town and you need a car for a
couple of months, or maybeyou're trying to test one out
for a few weeks before youdecide if you want to buy it.
Whatever your reason, we've gotthese kind of semi-long-term
cars uh options, thesesubscriptions, which are
(13:18):
basically like think about uhthink about it as a lease that
you can get out of it anytime,month to month or week to week.
Um pay as you go.
And then if you want to changeyour car, you can anytime.
Um, bring the car back.
We pick it up from you on thelonger rentals.
And it's as easy as that.
You don't have to buy a car nowto enjoy the same benefits.
SPEAKER_01 (13:39):
Yeah, that's that's that's really clutch here.
And from uh one thing I see inuh some of your reviews here, as
well as what's on your site,from booking to driving in
minutes.
So talk about how quickly thiscould happen.
Somebody, somebody lands in, um,uh, you know, lands at a city,
they pull up the app, boom.
And is is there kind of aproximity telling somebody how
(14:02):
how how close it is, and off yougo?
Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_02 (14:05):
So one of the things that we have right now is that
you can see exactly where thecar pickup location is on the
map before you book, et cetera,et cetera.
Yeah.
But the process is extremelysimple.
You book the car that you want.
Uh, you get, uh, if you're afirst-time user, you're gonna be
prompted to just upload yourinformation, your license, do a
quick face scan.
Uh, once you're verified, uh, wego, we take you through a
(14:27):
tutorial.
So this is something that onlywe do, which is we teach you
about everything that you needto know about this car before
you arrive.
So you don't even you don't haveto talk to anybody.
You ever go to like uh an Airbnband you get like this huge list
of instructions from the owner?
And then you you know, youimmediately ignore it.
You just completely say, okay,that's nice, you know, less it
(14:48):
in the garbage, and then youknow, the next night, you know,
when it's four in the morning,your toaster's not working,
you're like, crap.
Yeah, so what we do is we weactually give you a super
simple, like we walk you throughit with gifts.
It takes like one minute, youknow, you go through, got it,
got it, got it, got it.
We give you a short little quizjust to make sure you understood
everything you need to know.
And then you just get in and wejust find that it's the easiest
(15:10):
thing in the world.
Even if you've never been tothis place before, never been in
this type of car, electric cars,especially.
A lot of people, you know, forsure, they might not be familiar
with all the quirks of theelectric cars, guides them
through everything, supersimple.
Uh, and then bam, your phone'syour key.
You walk away from the car,there you're that's it.
The car locks, you're done.
(15:30):
So the whole point is just keepit simple.
And our vision is that you canpersonalize your experience
anywhere you go.
Christian, you can't bring yourcar to New York when you travel,
you know, when you fly, but youcan bring your eon.
And that's that's kind of thepoint.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
Love it.
Yeah.
And there they there is alwayselegance and simplicity.
And again, go check out thewebsite, Eon Rides,
eonrides.com.
And it's uh set up here.
Choose your EV rental, verystraightforward.
Got the app for that.
Instant confirmation, no waitingaround.
Arrive and go.
No one wants to wait at a rentalcar at a rental car counter.
(16:11):
And you'll have access to 24 by7 access and delivery, right?
They have guides, around theclock support.
Crucial, crucial.
Skip the recharging.
Hassle, seamless control at yourfingertips.
Breeze through tolls.
I mean, I just paid, I gottatell you, I there was a uh a
charge on my credit card thismorning for Sunpass.
(16:32):
I live here in in the panhandleof Florida, and I got this
charge.
I said, what is this charge for?
And so I had to get throughemail and then kind of verify,
oh, well, I spent, you know, Iwas in Orlando and spent$80 on
tolls and I figure all this kindof stuff out.
They're gonna figure all thisout for you.
Okay.
So anyway, sorry, didn't mean togush.
(16:54):
I'm gonna hand it over to Doug,who is going to, he's going to
fit Ray into a gas-powered carthat goes 88 miles an hour.
We're gonna scoot right backinto the past and thank you for
that, Ray.
Let's hand it over to Doug.
SPEAKER_00 (17:07):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Christian.
Wonderful introduction, asalways.
So, Ray, um, tell us about yourfirst car.
How old were you?
What it what was it?
And uh then we'll we'll chatabout some things you did in the
car, how you acquired the car.
SPEAKER_01 (17:25):
Things you shouldn't have done in that car, number
one.
SPEAKER_02 (17:27):
Well, oh man.
Um, yeah, man, you guys aretaking me back.
This is uh so my first car was a1995 Jeep Wrangler.
It was a four-cylinder manualtransmission, had no airbags, no
top, no doors, uh, it had drumbrakes, so they were super
(17:48):
unresponsive.
Uh the car could only go like 50miles an hour.
So I was a nuisance to people onthe freeway.
Um basically what happened isthat, you know, um, when I was
13, I had my bar mitzvah.
And so um in standard fashion,when everybody asked me what
what I wanted for my barmitzvah, I said money.
(18:09):
So I was collecting, you know,100 bucks here, 200 bucks there,
put that into uh a savingsaccount that my dad may or may
not have manipulated.
I'm not sure.
But lo and behold, I was 16, Ihad$3,000 to spend on a car.
Uh, and I was I was you know,trudging along on Craigslist,
and I find this beauty, youknow, this matte black, uh
(18:31):
beat-up looking Jeep Wranglerwith red rims, you know, the
wheels had these red rims, and Iwas like, that's all right nice
accent, nice touch.
SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
Nice accent.
Yeah, why not?
SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
It has a little, you know, something happened there.
So um, so I I was living inThousand Oaks at the time, which
is like a suburb a little northof Los Angeles, and the car was
in Torrance, you know, which isuh it's kind of a jump over.
And of course, the the Queen'sassads had cash on me.
So I just like I remember my dadand I go into the bank and he's
(19:06):
just you know pulling out all mymoney and hundred dollar bills.
And uh, you know, we we drive ondown to Torrance and uh and you
know, frankly, we we meet upwith this gangster, right?
He's got like uh hood, and like,you know, he's he's he's just
being a little sketchy.
He's like, Yeah, you know, let'smake this quick, you know, let's
(19:26):
do it here in the parking lot,you know.
Uh so we're just like, okay,sure, yeah, no, no problem.
Here's the money, let's go.
He's like, cool.
He gives us the keys, theregistration, the title.
I was I felt I was exhilarated,you know.
I was like, this is great, thisis how business is done.
And so uh I get this car back.
Uh at this point, I can't evendrive it, you know.
So um my dad parks his car.
(19:47):
We drive my car back.
And then, you know, he's got tocome back and get his car back.
Okay, yeah.
And so, you know, spent the nextcouple of uh weeks learning how
to drive stick on this car, andI fell in love with it.
It was one of my favorite thingsever.
It was um to this day I missthat thought.
SPEAKER_00 (20:04):
Yeah.
There's there's something abouta Jeep, there's something about
a Volkswagen.
Um, I've owned several Jeeps,CJ7, a couple Wranglers, I
think, as well.
And yeah, I guess living in LA,you don't need a top, you don't
need doors.
It doesn't rain.
SPEAKER_01 (20:20):
I mean, you're incredibly what did you own when
I first met you?
What was that yellow hulkingthing?
Oh, was that the that was theCJ7?
That thing was bucket.
Yeah, the doors were were ducttape, they were just like great,
great tape-together doors.
Beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
They were vinyl doors back then.
No, they weren't duct tape, butthey were they were vinyl with
duct tape.
Get it right.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
Gray trim.
Yeah, it was the sporty graytrim edition.
Sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Didn't mean to interrupt.
No, it was the rusty, rustytrim.
But uh no, that was uh that wasa cool Jeep, and uh I sold it to
my roommate when I moved to NewJersey for work.
I told him he might want to dosomething with the transmission.
He never did.
I think he put a new engine init.
He drove it all the way to NewMexico and the transmission went
up.
Jeez, that wasn't Adam, was it?
(21:10):
No, no, this was uh Chris withPhil House.
Gotcha, gotcha, okay.
Yep, and he ended up selling itfor twelve hundred bucks.
But he had a good time.
He got it made it all the way toNew Mexico pretty good for early
uh 80s Jeep.
And uh yeah, it was just it wasfun, but uh it uh it had its
quirks and features.
(21:32):
Uh if you if you will, like allJeeps.
It's uh as they say, it's a Jeepthing, right?
SPEAKER_01 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah.
So let me squeeze in here realquick before it Ray says in his
in some of the documentationthat he sent us before the show,
uh it we he says it was such anauthentic and beautiful piece of
junk.
No airbags, no doors, manualtransmission that couldn't go
beyond 50 miles per hour.
(21:59):
Well worn, well loved.
I mean, that's that's what yougotta have for a first car,
right, Ray?
Oh, it was perfect.
Super dangerous.
Definitely don't do that for a16-year-old, you know.
Right, right.
But it makes you appreciateeverything after, man.
I you know, if you if you hadyou can't give a kid top of the,
you just gotta bring him throughthe stack, I feel.
You know?
SPEAKER_02 (22:18):
Yeah.
And and honestly, you I don'tget the high from any car that
I've driven since that that cargives me.
That high of just, you know,just feeling like you're just
connected to the mechanics ofthe car, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (22:31):
Yeah, yes.
Yep.
It's a it's a big change.
Even the new Jeeps are not likethat.
SPEAKER_02 (22:38):
They don't feel at all like that.
The that old Wrangler, you know,when you when you put in the
shift and it grinds, you know,and you're like, ah, I gotta do
this better.
That's a good feeling.
You know, you feel like you'reyou're learning.
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
Yeah, you're working, you're working it,
right?
You're working, making it workfor you, but slash vice versa.
And it's it's funny youmentioned bar mitzvah money.
Um uh I actually took my barmitzvah money and I used it to
help me buy my firstconvertible, which was a Miata.
Um yeah, so I I guess there's atrend.
(23:10):
Bar mitzvah money for cars.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
A lesson to all the Jewish boys.
You know, my brother was silly.
He spent he spent it on a on analienware computer, and then and
then lo and behold, you know,when I went off to college,
suddenly gets guess who gets todrive my car for free.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
That's what I was gonna say.
The Jeep got passed down to yourbrother.
SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
Love the hand-me-downs.
Love the hand-me-downs.
I got rattled t-shirts, he got aJeep, lucky guy.
SPEAKER_00 (23:32):
What what um what ultimately happened to the Jeep
after your uh your brother wasusing it?
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Well, when he went to college, he we we sold it,
you know.
Okay, uh, there was no one leftto drive it.
Uh, but we sold it for moremoney than we bought it for.
Yeah, it's kind of amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (23:49):
Jeeps hold their value.
It it's amazing.
They all do.
People people love them, andpeople also get tired of them
and sell them and usually breakeven or make money.
So it was a good invest, solidinvestment here.
SPEAKER_02 (24:04):
Honestly, yeah, go ahead, right?
Absolutely.
No, no, no, it was great.
And you know, driving that thingat the time was like it was the
kind of thing where you couldhave like 10 of your friends
pile up, and you know, you ranout of room, so they would just
stand and hold the bars, youknow, that kind of thing.
Just like St.
SPEAKER_01 (24:19):
Elmo's Fire.
That's a scene right out of St.
Elmo's Fire.
SPEAKER_02 (24:22):
Perfect.
You know, that's what that'swhat it felt like.
We've we felt so cool.
We'd play Indiana Jones from thespeakers as we'd ride around,
you know.
For Halloween, we did a JurassicPark remake with it, you know,
one guy dressed as a T-Rex andchased us in the car.
It was great.
Too good.
All these memories.
SPEAKER_00 (24:38):
I hope a lot of kids saw those.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
Oh, yeah.
Yes, it was we went to the tothe cool desec where all all the
families were, they loved it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
Yeah, that's awesome.
So, so you sold the Jeep orpassed it down, the Jeep got
sold.
But what was your second car?
That was well, my second cartechnically.
SPEAKER_02 (24:59):
Technically, I haven't really bought a car
personally ever since.
Because what what happened wasthat while I was in college,
right?
My this was around 2014.
Um, 2015, my dad bought thisTesla Model S, 2015 Tesla Model
S.
Uh, and at the time, this waslike the coolest thing you'd
(25:20):
ever seen.
This was like a quantum leapforward with cars, especially
going from a manual transmissionto a car that just, you know,
um, it was it was high-end.
And so, you know, he was drivingthat for a bit.
And every time I'd go home tospend time with my family, it
was like this was the coolestthing ever.
Then around 2018, um, my dadmoved to, you know, another part
(25:46):
of the country for work.
He moved to Chicago for a bit.
And he didn't need the car.
And so his plan was to sell it,you know, uh to give it up.
And I was, even though it wasn'tmy car, I just thought it was so
freaking cool.
I was like, listen, I'll let'smake a deal, right?
You uh instead of you gettingrid of this awesome piece of
tech, give it to me and I'llfigure out a way to pay you on
(26:08):
the financing, you know.
By the way, college student, noincome, had no plan to have
income.
I was just like, let's just doit, right?
And my dad was like, okay, youknow.
So he'll learn the hard way, Iguess.
You know, that was his thinkingon it.
Um, and as soon as I got that,first of all, the first the
first two weeks were so funbecause I was the kid in college
(26:30):
with this brand new Tesla whenTesla was nothing yet, you know?
And then immediately it justbecame obvious that this was a
terrible mistake, you know.
How am I gonna pay, you know,what's really the equivalent of
rent for me uh in college withno plans?
So immediately I just startedfinding ways to monetize this
thing.
And I was, you know, at first Itried to like Uber for a little
(26:54):
bit, that didn't work.
Uh and then I then I startedrenting the car out, and that
really didn't work.
That was a terrible idea.
Um I I found out the hard waythat you know, trying to rent
out a car when you've got noexperiences or resources is like
you might as well, you know,slam your head into a wall for
all the good it's gonna do you.
(27:15):
In fact, you're probably gonnalose less money on slamming your
head into the wall.
So um but anyway, I still I keptwith it.
I I tried, you know, for for agood year, you know, I I did
everything I could, and and Ijust found that renting a car is
is horrible.
It's you know, I was dealingwith just I was skipping classes
to hand off the keys to people.
(27:36):
You know, I was being woken upin the middle of the night all
hours, uh answering my customersand trying to teach them how to
use the car.
One time I had a date that I'vebeen so excited for for like
months, and I get a call thatthe guy's like stuck in in New
Hampshire, it's negative 10degrees outside.
You know, he's he needs help,and it's like the whole thing
(27:57):
goes sideways.
Um, I mean, the car came backsmoked in, dented, you know,
somebody robbed a bank in mycar.
Yeah, someone robbed a bank inmy car, you know, it's a good
getaway car.
Except the fact you can track iton the on the app, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
Which makes it robbers worse than robbers so
bad to think of these things.
Well, you go you go where themoney is, right?
Yeah, that's where the banksused to have money in there.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
So anyway, I mean that whole thing happened, and
then I just realized, you know,this is this is tough.
This there's gotta be a betterway of of doing it.
And that's where this the ideaof eon came about.
And then basically from my lastyear in college up until now,
I've been building the system toshare out these electric cars.
Uh and and that's where we aretoday.
(28:47):
Same that whole path, you know,from uh from my dad trying to
get rid of his car.
SPEAKER_00 (28:57):
Great tail.
Yep.
Great tail.
When there's a will, there's away, and you know, it's a family
thing.
And real quick, your dad isinvolved in a car business as
well, right?
He's an entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
Yeah, honestly, I think the only way that he
trusted me enough to like makehim that crazy Oscar to give me
his his you know, pretty newTesla at the time, was uh back
in 2014, before I even went offto school, still in high school,
my dad had this idea of uh heloves camping.
So he took this, these uh theseminivans and basically built
(29:32):
these conversion kits, which hecould put into the minivans and
turn them into campers, right?
So it would still be a minivan,not like a big RV, but like just
a minivan that you could parkanywhere, drive it around
normally.
But the whole back turns into abed, you've got, you know, like
a camping shower, a full tableset, cooking stove, everything
comes packed in.
(29:53):
And so at the time it was kindof a hobby.
We built this out, and then mydad kind of went with that as
well.
And now he rents these out.
All over the country.
So uh it kind of goes in thefamily DNA at this point, you
know, just sharing sharing carsand being a part of the part of
the ecosystem.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure your dad's proudof you.
Thank you.
I'm proud of him.
Yeah.
And I love that.
Hopefully we can have your dadon the show and we'll have him
talk about you.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
He's awesome.
Well, maybe not.
He'll tell all the bad stories.
Okay.
Well, hear that, listeners.
We're we're we'll take yoursons, we'll take daughters,
(30:31):
we'll take your grandparents.
We we want family stories.
SPEAKER_01 (30:36):
It's all about family.
Doug likes to say the show is isuh all about family.
It is we we've had a father andson tandem on, and it's just
really wonderful.
And it's a lot of people.
Father, daughters recently.
Yeah.
Couple.
And more, more, more in thequeue.
So all the stories that tumbleout and all the smiles on the
(30:56):
faces.
Smiles per gallon, we like tocall it.
SPEAKER_00 (30:59):
Yeah.
So uh Ray, I know your currentcar is not exactly a car.
Um york city.
Not easy, but of course you haveaccess to thousands, several
thousand.
Um what is your current vehicleof choice that you use to get
around?
SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Yeah, so I I I kind of found the best New York hack,
which is I have a really, youknow, just a ridiculously
overpowered e-bike.
Um, most people see it, theythink it's a motorcycle.
It's a Segway Zyber, just cameout.
Um, you know, Segway the ScooterCompany.
They they built this e-bike.
And uh this thing has just beenfor New York City, it's the
(31:39):
best.
You get everywhere about twiceas fast as you know, the subway
or or on a bicycle.
So for the day to day, like inthe city, this is this is great.
It's it's really tough having acar in Manhattan.
Uh, so this is like the nextbest alternative.
SPEAKER_00 (31:55):
Nice, nice.
SPEAKER_02 (31:56):
And then anytime I need to get out of the city, you
can use the bike lanes.
That's the that's the key point.
And then you know, anytime youneed to get out of the city,
we've got the Eon app.
So we just pop into one ofthose, go to the Hamptons, go
upstate, wherever you want togo.
SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
Awesome.
Well, you pick the you pick theright place to live and do your
do your testing there, markettesting, if you will.
Definitely.
SPEAKER_01 (32:19):
Speaking of, okay, perfect segue, not only the one
that he rides, but the kind weuse here in media.
Let's talk about some reviewsfrom the side before we rant
this thing down.
Come on, you you you you have togive this company a try.
Don't go to those main players.
Stand at the desk, then you goto the parking garage, you stand
there another 45 minutes.
(32:39):
Maybe you get the car, you know,maybe you don't.
Listen to these reviews.
Had an amazing rentalexperience.
Communication was on point.
Car was a blast to drive, wouldrecommend.
Here's another one from Terry W.
Just grab the car from one ofthe spots near me.
It's a million times better thankeeping a car at the house, you
bet.
Uh, here's another.
Hire uh pick up his car for thefamily road trip using eon as a
(33:01):
highlight of the vacation.
And last one from Stevie R.
Every time is easy and smooth,including if you want to extend
the time.
That's crucial.
Last time I had to do at thatwith a rental company, say
goodbye to 45 minutes and a lotof frustration.
Uh Stevie continues.
I highly recommend if you wantuh to experience an EV in New
(33:24):
York.
Well, partner, I tell you what,I think we're we're about coming
up on time.
So as we guide the podcastgently to the off-ramp, I got
one for you on the way out here,Ray.
Um, now, your mom doesn't workfor you, and she doesn't have an
electric car, but she might haveone of the coolest rides around.
(33:44):
You didn't oversell it.
Let's hear a bit about that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Oh, yeah, no problem.
Well, some might say I workedfor my mom, you know.
That's that's how it is withJewish boys at the end of the
day.
Absolutely.
Um, but no, all jokes aside, formy mom's 50th birthday, uh,
basically a whole family gottogether and surprised her.
Her favorite car, her whole lifehas been uh a Land Rover
defender.
So what we did is over atwo-year process, this had to
(34:10):
be, you know, built from theground up for over some time.
Um, we had this custom-builtLand Rover defender restored
from the 80s to be, you know,completely redone.
Still has the same, you know,aesthetic and the same
authenticity of back then, butrenewed and renovated for the
(34:31):
current age, you know, all theall the bells and whistles, but
still the real deal.
It's uh it's a white with acream interior.
Um, we call it Sasha.
And it's it's just been thefamily kind of uh it's like a
family point of pride.
We love this thing, and I thinkeverybody's got that one device
or that one thing that they justvalue as part of their family.
(34:55):
You know, for some people it'suh it's a it's like an heirloom.
SPEAKER_01 (34:58):
For other people, it's you know, um, for us this
is a great word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a great word, heirloom.
Like like you were sayingbefore, these things get passed
down through the family, youknow?
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Yeah.
Um yeah.
And it's just like uhaesthetically, it it's like her
whole vision of what she loves.
Uh and and so that was her giftfor her 50th.
And you know, um, I I would saythat's that's maybe the coolest
car I've ever seen in my life.
And I'm so happy I can try itriding it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful in the retail.
Yeah, the thing about LandRovers, man, especially that
vintage, they look like they cantake on the world.
I mean, like they could just topunch a hole in a wall.
And yet, you know, very refinedonce you get inside and for
their time, you know, luxuryabsolute.
So, Ray, uh let me ask you thisone.
(35:48):
I said that was the lastquestion, but let me ask you one
more surprise question.
What do you like most about yourjob?
Because there's been a smile onyour face the whole time you've
been talking about your company.
What do you like most about it?
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
Um, you know, my favorite thing is is being able
to look, I I went to school forbiomedical engineering.
I never thought, I really neverthought I'd I never thought I'd
get into entrepreneurship.
I never thought that I'd getinto uh cars specifically as
much as like, you know, we'veloved it.
I loved cars growing up.
(36:23):
Uh I just didn't expect that tobe the way that my life would
play out.
And the thing that makes me sohappy is just being able to have
a vision in the world, know thatlike we're going after it and
that we are actually able tomake other people's lives
better, you know?
And and it's not just like uhand I know it's like kind of a
(36:43):
key kitsch, like nice thing yousay that maybe every founder
says, but just the ability ofseeing that my teammates love
what they do and love that we'rebuilding something that's really
cool and the small fleet ownersthat you know have a small fleet
of cars and that we're able tomake them successful.
It's it's like it's the bestfeeling in the world.
SPEAKER_01 (37:02):
Well, yeah, and it says a lot about you that you've
opened your beautiful home, thathome office there that people
come in.
So you're obviously all aboutfamily togetherness and seeing
it through together.
So we want to thank you forspending some of your time with
us here today.
It was an absolute pleasure tomeet you.
We appreciate it.
You guys rock.
Thank you.
I had so much fun.
We had a blast.
(37:23):
Thank you.
You're welcome here anytime.
So you have just heard, oh, hewas Ray.
And let's see, check him out ateonrise.com.
E-O-N-R-I-D-E-E-S dot com.
Trust me, it's a new way ofdoing it.
It's a better mousetrap.
You gotta check it out.
Eo-n-r-i-d-e-s.com.
That was Ray, and you have justheard the high revving, low
(37:44):
mileage, late model heard roundthe world authoritative podcast
on automotive nostalgia.
He's Doug.
Reach him at Doug atCarslove.com.
I'm Christian.
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He was Ray, obviously.
So please follow and tell afriend if you've liked what you
heard.
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Try out CarsLove.com or our linktree at L-I-N-K-T-R dot E slash
(38:11):
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He always hits his mark, nomatter how unready I try and
make him.
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race trip, or concor.
We appreciate your listening.
We'll see you next time.
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