How to Future-Proof Your Career

Are you ready to dive into the vital topic of "Future-Proofing Your Career from the Inside Out." Joining us today is Emma, the founder of Conscious Success and a master coach who brings a wealth of experience as a former tech executive turned career fulfillment advocate. Emma shares her transformative journey from high financial success and eventual burnout to redefining personal success driven by internal fulfillment. We'll explore how aligning work with your "zone of genius" can energize you and prevent burnout, and why focusing on your innate talents rather than shoring up weaknesses can lead to greater job satisfaction and compensation. Emma also delves into the crucial role of self-awareness, community support, and managing societal pressures, particularly for those who deviate from the dominant power model. Together, Emma and I will unpack practical tools for dealing with perfectionism, stress regulation, and the importance of taking personal time without guilt. We'll also touch on shifting the narrative around systemic issues and leveraging somatic cues for emotional regulation. Plus, you'll discover how to balance creativity with productivity and why every career-driven person should understand their "love language."

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Emma Lloyd

Co-Founder, Conscious Success

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Website: https://www.conscioussuccessco.com/

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 Weekly power lounge: authentic career transformation conversation.

08:52 Prioritizing self-care and regulating stress for health.

13:22 Expectations vs. authenticity: Causes stress and misalignment.

20:41 Identify, share your strengths to excel professionally.

21:44 Align passions to create genuine opportunities.

27:15 Compassion for self precedes compassion for others.

32:09 Awareness of somatic cues builds self-compassion.

42:41 Embracing autonomy and freedom for self-reflection.

44:09 Follow your desires fully without self-judgment.

49:44 Align with desires for energizing, authentic success.

58:15 Change approach for routine tasks, boost energy.

01:00:42 Telegram for client communication, Notion for organization.

Quote of the Episode:

"The bigger the delta between the expectations we're holding consciously or subconsciously of who we think we need to be and who we believe we inherently are, the more stress that we're going to feel." - Emma Lloyd

"If you're not doing things you love... it's only a matter of time until you're gonna burn out because it's essentially like you're driving a car, you're pushing it around on neutral rather than going to the gas station and filling up your tank." - Emma Lloyd

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone and welcome to our weekly Power
Lounge.
This is your place to hearauthentic conversations from
those who have power to share.
My name is Amy Vaughn and I amthe owner and chief empowerment
officer of Together Digital, adiverse and collaborative
community of women who work indigital and choose to share
their knowledge, power andconnections.
You can join the movement attogetherindigitalcom and today

(00:33):
we are diving into somethingpowerful, future-proofing your
career from the inside out, andI am thrilled to welcome Emma,
the founder of Conscious Successand the master coach who has
transformed her own path fromtech executive to helping women,
just like you listeners, findfulfillment without sacrificing
success.

(00:53):
So, whether you're navigatingchange, seeking purpose or ready
to redefine what success meansto you, our conversation today
will help you find practicaltools and to build resilience
and clarity.
Emma welcome, so good to haveyou here with.
Conversation today will helpyou find practical tools and to
build resilience and clarity.
Emma welcome, so good to haveyou here with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Thank you, amy.
I'm so glad to be here and withyour audience.
I love the conversations thatyou have, so thanks for having
me.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Absolutely.
It's my pleasure.
These are the kinds ofconversations I think that truly
do matter, and I love the title, or the name, I should say, of
your company, conscious SuccessBig, as many of our listeners
know, into mindfulness andintentionality and those who go
and check out your website andlearn more about you as a coach
and your philosophies a lot ofthat built into what you

(01:40):
practice and how you coach, andI would love for our listeners
to hear more about yourbackground and how you got to
this point.
This point, because you wentfrom making seven figures, seven
figures by 28.
That's no small feat in tech,but you chose to pivot.
What was that moment that madeyou realize that you were
climbing someone else's mountainand that you needed to kind of

(02:02):
turn around and reset the path?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah Well, from a very early age I was your
typical high, achieving goodgirl, straight A's, checking the
boxes, following the shoulds,pursuing, as I like to call it
now, conventional success.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I climbed the corporate ladder at breakneck
speed and I kept getting thepromotions and I was making a
lot of money and externally itlooked so good, right, it looked
like I was the picture ofsuccess on paper and internally
it just felt I was miserable.
And I just remember feelinglike I can't even think about a

(02:43):
five-year plan, what I want fromhere, because how am I even
going to make it to next month?
I'm so stressed out, I'm soburnt out, I feel just trapped
and I couldn't give myselfpermission to slow down or to
even really think about whatelse I would want to do.
It didn't come until I actuallywent to my hairdresser and it

(03:04):
was about three months before mywedding and she told me I'd
lost about a third of my hairsince I'd seen her last and it
was only then.
Call me vain, but it was onlywhen my hair started falling out
, that I actually took itseriously.
And there's a saying I likethat the universe can wake you
up either by a tap on theshoulder or a two by four to the
head.
And it took the two by four forme to be like okay, if it is

(03:25):
manifesting in physical symptomslike this, like something has
to change, like how could thispossibly be success if it feels
this bad on the inside?
And that was really the startof my journey personally to
redefine success for myself andthen redesign it in my own
career.
And now that's what I doprofessionally with my clients.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
That's amazing and I think I'm sure that so many
people that are listening rightnow I know a lot of the women
within our Together Digitalcommunity fit that bill of being
like hardworking and ambitiousand they want the salary and the
title.
And oftentimes, when you're inthat space and it's just like
your head down, like thatmountain analogy, right, and
you're just like climbing,climbing, climbing down, like

(04:04):
that mountain analogy, right,and you're just like climbing,
climbing, climbing.
It's so hard to look up aroundyou and and realize and be in
your body and feel anythingRight.
And for me, when I was climbing, it was, you know, I was, I
just was numb, you know.
Ask me how I was feeling andI'm fine, fine, fine, because I
felt nothing.
And I think you know for you tokind of not even know in the

(04:26):
moment that you were having thatmuch stress, to the point and
anxiety that it was causing yourhair to fall out, like those
types of things that it's likeactually causing physical
ailments.
How many of us are living inthat way and in that space and,
like oftentimes, we just don'trealize it.
I started seeing a cardiologista few years back just for a low
blood pressure, something mildbut, like his big MO, was really

(04:50):
all about how, like stress is abigger killer and drain on our
heart than smoking and drinkingand so many other things, and we
just don't talk about thatenough.
So, all things aside, outside ofthe career climb.
Nothing wrong with finding anddefining success and going for
what you want, but at the sametime, it's like shaping that,
looking at that and reallyrealizing what is the cost.

(05:13):
But then also, as we're goingto talk about here, making sure
that you're climbing the rightmountains and climbing for the
right reasons.
But before we get to thatmountains and climbing for the
right reasons, but before we getto that, now that you have made
this pivot into coaching whichis super awesome I love that
you've taken what you've learnedand kind of your experience and
going from your hair fallingout to now coaching and

(05:36):
supporting other women.
How has your background in techand as a tech executive
influenced your coaching withwomen in corporate leadership?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean so much, so both you know, because I can
relate in my own personaljourney.
But also.
I think what's so prevalent,which we don't talk enough about
, is that so many of the mosthigh achieving people are
actually really driven by toxicshame.
By toxic shame and I see thisin so many of my corporate

(06:08):
clients who are in thesepositions of leadership, that
are in these positions that areconventionally successful.
But at the bottom of it, a lotof people were understood,
growing up from a sense ofconditional love, conditional
approval that in order to belong, in order to be worthy, they
needed to be perfect, theyneeded to be the best, they
needed to be the highestachiever, and so what that does

(06:30):
is from a very young age.
We think I am only good enough,I am only lovable when I
achieve right, and so thatdrives us our whole life.
I know personally it really didfor me, and anytime we feel
that we are not the best, thatwe're not perfect, we start
having a dysregulated nervoussystem.

(06:51):
We go into a survival state offight, flight, freeze or fawn
and we get stuck there and westart living there and that
wrecks havoc on our nervoussystem and I think so many
people don't understand what'sactually driving them is fear,
it's not love, it's not desire,it's not alignment, and that is
a really huge problem with highachieving people, helping them

(07:20):
to move out of this toxic shameand reconnect with their
humanity and their humanness.
And to be human means to beflawed.
It means to be imperfect.
No one is superhuman, no one isGod, no one is infallible,
right, and so let's just startto give ourselves that
permission again, and when we dothat, we can regulate our
nervous system, and once we'reregulated, we actually have

(07:43):
access to our prefrontal cortex,which is responsible for all of
the creativity, all of the typeof collaboration and
decision-making that we actuallyneed to be able to tap into to
be our most successful selves.
And so then being able to, froma regulated nervous system,
re-approach success from adifferent place, from love and
desire and inspiration andcreativity rather than fear it's

(08:06):
the biggest shift, and then youcan actually feel easeful and
energized, rather than kind ofon that, like edge and stress
and always feeling like you'reone wrong step from it all
coming crumbling down around you.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Right, that must be such a hard.
I say this as somebody whoknows exactly what it feels like
to be in that cycle and in thatspace.
What advice do you have, solike, where do you go?
How do you find that kind ofrestitude or time for reflection
?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think it just has to become a
conscious choice where, likethis matters.
This is important.
I think, especially as women,we put that last, like time for
self.
Who has time for that right?
Like we're putting everyoneelse's needs and priorities
above our own, from work tofamily, to friends, whatnot.
And so I think that kind ofwhere we started this
conversation, recognizing thatthis isn't just like desire and

(09:16):
fulfillment.
This is like my health, myactual stress in my body, and we
need to learn how to tap intoour body, how to regulate our
nervous systems, how to bringourselves back to that kind of
like equilibrium, that rest anddigest state, so that we can not
have autoimmune disorders, notlose our hair, not feel

(09:40):
miserable, right.
And so I think that oftentimeshaving and this is what a lot of
my clients having a coach whereyou're like, well, I have to
keep this hour at leastaccountable to, to be able to
work with someone, but if, ifthat's not available to you,
really carving out and andputting that time in where you
can journal, where you can tapinto your body, where you can

(10:02):
really just reconnect with selfand start to shift out of those
you know patterns where, whenwe're in it, we can't see it.
We need that spaciousness.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Exactly, I think awareness is absolutely key to
right to just even acknowledgewhen you're in that moment or
when you fall back into or yougo into that cycle, and what are
those environments, what arethose moments, what are those
triggers that just put you rightback into it.
Right, because sometimes it'slike really hard to even know
that you're there.
Because I wanted to talk nextabout clinical burnout.

(10:35):
You know it's a critical partof conscious success and it's
obviously a big journey.
What is one of the most commonmisconceptions?
Because we talk about burnout alot, obviously, but what is one
of the most commonmisconceptions about burnout
that you encounter?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, so I speak a lot at various companies like
Google and Stripe and Twilio,mindbody just some of these on
this topic of burnout and I askin these talks like, okay, what
do you think is the main causeof burnout?
And oftentimes what people aresaying are things like workload,
parenting, working too manyhours, not taking enough

(11:17):
vacations, and all of these areexamples of what I call
stressors, but they're notstress, and there's a
differentiation betweenstressors and stress.
Stressors are things that arehappening kind of in your
external world that can causestress, but stress is actually a
very personal, individualexperience what's happening in
your own body, and so two peoplewill experience the exact same

(11:38):
stressor in very different waysand have very different levels
of stress.
So an example of this I haveone of my clients very high
achieving.
She is the type of personperfect SAT score, went to
Stanford doing everything great,has always gotten a lot of
feedback and a lot of externalvalidation from every manager

(12:01):
she's ever had right and thatmakes her feel really good.
Well, she took a job as aleadership role in a high,
fast-growing startup and wasreporting directly into the CEO.
Now the CEO was super busy.
He didn't have a lot of time tospend with her, and so she was
given a lot of freedom to moveat, make decisions and do what

(12:23):
she saw best for the business.
But he wasn't giving her a lotof that constant validation and
feedback because she was in aleadership level.
That wasn't really theexpectation and that led to a
high level of stress for herright, because that felt like a
threat, and so, whereas tosomeone that stressor of like
not hearing much from yourmanager might not be stressful
at all, for her that was a hugeamount of stress.

(12:46):
So that's just one example ofhow the same stressor can really
be felt very differently.
And so really, with this it'sactually looking at what are the
triggers, what are the thingsthat cause stress in my own
nervous system, and how do Ibegin to bring that conscious
awareness to it and how do Ibegin to regulate through that,

(13:07):
and that can really shift us outof burnout.
And it's so different, it's sopersonal for each individual,
and I think burnout really comesdown to three factors, which
I'm happy to dive into in moredetails.
Okay, great.
So first is on the mindset level.
So with this it's what are theexpectations I'm holding of

(13:29):
myself?
Who do I think that I should bein order to be successful, in
order to be worthy, in order tobelong, and the bigger the delta
between the expectations we'reholding, consciously or
subconsciously, of who we thinkwe need to be and who we believe
we inherently are, the morestress that we're going to feel.
And so an example of this is inmy past career in tech

(13:51):
leadership.
I was surrounded by a lot of mypast career in tech leadership.
I was surrounded by a lot ofhighly intellectual men.
Showing my emotions was notapproved of.
It was expected that I wasgoing to work in a very linear
fashion, the same amount everyday, and that was misaligned

(14:12):
with my authentic ways ofworking and my authentic being.
But I thought that's how Ineeded to be in order to succeed
, and so that led me to alwaysmaking myself wrong and feeling
a big amount of stress.
So that mindset piece andstarting to understand who we
authentically are and how can wefind success by living into
that and allowing that to beokay rather than making

(14:34):
ourselves wrong.
What are the expectations thatwe're holding of ourselves and
how can we actually consciouslychoose what we want to believe
that is going to be moresupportive?
So that's the mindset.
Level Two is on the somaticlevel, and soma just means body,
so this is like work of thebody and of the nervous system
and so on the somatic level, isour nervous system regulated,

(14:57):
meaning we feel safe, we feelworthy, we feel like we belong,
or is it really dysregulated andthis means that we're living in
that survival state of fight,flight, freeze or fawn right,
and so really, on this level,it's understanding what causes
us to go into that survivalstate.
And a lot of this hashistorical roots.

(15:18):
It comes from decades back inour childhood when we were kind
of learning how to stay safe inthe world, who we needed to be.
I know for me personally andthis took years of personal
development work for this memoryto come back to me but I had a
memory and experience when I wasin fifth grade.
But I had a memory andexperience when I was in fifth

(15:40):
grade.
I tested to get into the giftedand talented program at school
and I didn't test highly enoughto get in and both of my parents
went to Harvard business school.
My brother tested, you know,easily got in, and when my
parents got the notice that Ididn't make it in, they were
like shocked, and I rememberseeing their faces and that like
look of disappointment.
For my little 10 year old self,I felt like, oh my gosh, in

(16:02):
order to belong in my family, Ihave to be smart.
And I'm not smart, so I don'tbelong.
And at that point, at an age of10, the best strategy I knew
how to earn my belonging was towork really hard and try to
achieve and to fool everyoneinto thinking I was smart.
And that played out for decadesuntil I did this work.

(16:23):
So anytime I thought, uh-oh,I'm not smart enough, or I'm not
going to hit my quota or I'mgoing to be outed in some way
boom, dysregulated nervoussystem.
Boom, fight or flight.
So play that out in a techsales role where I'm constantly
facing a number, every quarterthat did a number.
So really starting to understandwhat is our personal, what are

(16:44):
our traumas, what are ourunprocessed emotions, what were
the experiences that are reallycausing us to go into that fight
, flight, freeze or fawn state,and that's again super personal.
But when we can bringcompassion to that and we can
regulate through that and we canshift out of it, that is huge.
And then the last one, which Ithink a lot of people don't
realize, is that when we are notworking in our genius, when

(17:06):
we're not working in our gifts,when we're not doing what lights
us up, we just feel drained.
So you could have a reallystrong mindset, you could have
processed or just not have a lotof trauma.
You don't have a dysregulatednervous system.
But if you're not doing thingsyou love and you might be really
highly compensated and reallygood at your work, but if it
doesn't give you energy, at theend of the day you're going to

(17:28):
feel drained.
And if you don't shift enoughof your workloads into the
things that you do love, that dolight you up and do energize
you, it's only a matter of timeuntil you're going to burn out,
because it's essentially likeyou're driving a car, you're
pushing it around on neutralrather than going to the gas
station and filling up your tank, and what fills up your tank is
doing things that you love,right, things that are in your

(17:49):
zone of genius, and so I thinkthat's also something that a lot
of people miss.
So I work on all three levelswith my clients so that we can
really shift them into morealigned, conscious success.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I love all of that and I think all of this aligns
so nicely, emma, with our topictoday of feature-proofing your
career.
And if any of you were kind oflike I don't know how this all
relates, I totally can, becauseI sit in so many conversations
and I know you do too, emma withwomen that you know are trying
to work for longevity or successor satisfaction in their career

(18:24):
.
Right, and a part of futureproofing your career is all
about, you know, finding alongevity and alignment and
resilience.
Throughout that and a lot of ityou know you need, what you're
talking about is creating anamount of self-awareness so that
you can be a self-advocate.

(18:45):
So, for your example, you know,one of the best things I ever
learned from a company I workedfor was when they asked me
what's your love language?
And I'm like, why the hell doyou want to know that about me?
That seems weird, but it helpedthem know do I need words of
affirmation?
Do I want to be financiallyrewarded?
Are gifts the thing?
Like, what is it about me as aperson in which I receive

(19:07):
accolades and affirmation?
That's why they wanted to knowmy love language and I just
thought that was brilliant.
And so now, when I'm talking tomy team, I want to know what's
your love language.
I want to know how do theyreceive appreciation, love and
affirmation.
Because that's important,because some people don't need
to necessarily be told thanksfor doing what you do, but other
people are starved for that andit's such a simple, simple

(19:30):
thing.
Again, if you've done the workand you're self-aware and you
know this, if you have a bossthat isn't so, you can be like
hey, listen, I know this mightnot be your nature, but I really
appreciate it when people saythank you.
You know, I really like it whena boss says I see what you did
there, thanks.
Or even just a simple thank youafter an email when I've

(19:51):
delivered a major deliverableinstead of just not even
replying Right.
Major deliverable instead ofjust not even replying right.
Because sometimes something assmall as that can be a huge
differentiator that fills youback up and that energizes you
to keep coming back right.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Definitely.
And I would also say in terms ofbeing able to future proof your
career and have conversationswith your manager, your
leadership, starting to uncoverwhat's in your zone of genius,
like, what are you innatelytalented at, that energizes you,
that if you do more of like,not only again is it going to
fill your energetic tank andyou're going to love it, but
because you love it, you'regoing to do it consistently,

(20:28):
you're going to stay with it,and the more you do something,
the more you build mastery in it.
The more you build mastery, themore you build differentiation.
And the more you builddifferentiation, the more highly
compensated you can be.
And so it's actually this likevirtuous cycle, and so doing the
work to identify that and thenactually sharing that with your
manager, for example, and saying, hey, you know, I know that
this is a part of my job andthat's great, but what I really

(20:51):
love, or this part of my jobthat I feel like I'm really
excelling at and it gives me somuch energy, is this how could I
take on more stretch projects,how could I do even more of that
?
And I know, back when I wasleading a big team, when I did
have those types ofconversations and I knew like,
oh my gosh, sydney lovesprojects like this.
I'm gonna give Sydney more ofthis, but she hates this.
So what?
I think sometimes we fail tounderstand, or high achievers

(21:14):
think I need to shore up myweaknesses.
I need to be good at everythingthey put all their energy into
the things that they don't evenlike, but they're just trying to
be good at everything versus.
I'm going to double down on mystrengths and I'm going to build
teams, high performing teamsthat have different zones of
genius, so that the sum of ourparts is greater than the whole,
or whatever that saying is andso I think that that's really

(21:36):
important to identify your ownzone of genius and share it,
because that's how we can alignand future proof our career to
be doing work that we reallylove.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Absolutely.
And there's how do you not knowthat you're just chasing the
wrong career or title, like, andwhy you have one life to live,
you know.
And if you're chasing the wrongsomebody else's dream, somebody
else's title, you know, I mean,I definitely wouldn't be
sitting here if it wasn't for me, like, getting into alignment
and behind the passions and thethings that interested me and

(22:05):
just kind of following thatcuriosity, a sudden it's like,
oh, the alignment's there.
People hear and see thatpassion and they're like, oh, oh
, here's that opportunity.
And then, as you I just have tocome back to this for a moment

(22:25):
too, before you move to the nextquestion when you were talking
about that mindset and thatDelta between who I should be
and who I am and that differencewhen you're sitting in a room
full of people that are nothinglike you, my God, is that not
why every single woman says Ifeel burnt out between how we
are being shown and portrayedabout how we're supposed to look

(22:45):
and be within media and theboardroom?
It's like no wonder we mostlyfeel tired and burnt out and why
I feel very, very privilegedwith an art together, digital
community, because I constantlyjust get to show up and be my
authentic self, feel tired andburnt out, and why I feel very,
very privileged with an ArtTogether digital community,
because I constantly just get toshow up and be my authentic
self, creating a space for womento show up and be their
authentic self to the point thatI feel like I can't behave in

(23:07):
polite society.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
because I'm just so comfortable with myself that
it's like I can work hard andpeople are like God you do so
much, you must be so busy andtired and I'm like no, no, and
that's such a perfect example ofcreating conscious success and
being able to move through yourworld, your life, your career
easefully, because you're nottrying to shape, shift and

(23:29):
contort and be something thatyou're not and that effort of
trying to not be who youinherently are that burns you
out right.
And I also think it's importantto acknowledge that the further
away we are from the systems ofpower and the model that we
think is conventionallysuccessful which here in the

(23:49):
States it's like white male,Christian, heterosexual, you
name it and so the more, thefurther away you are from that,
you are going to have morestress on your nervous system.
Right, like that isn't ourdefault and that is difficult to
deal with and it takes a lot ofself-awareness and self-worth

(24:12):
building to be able to stand inthat powerfully.
But I think that's whycommunity is like this one, the
one that you've built andinvested in, are so powerful,
because when we can be incommunity and be seen by others
who say I see you and me too, metoo, me too, then we start to
believe oh, I'm not wrong, I'mnot the problem, maybe the
system is, and then that bringsawareness to how we can shift

(24:33):
that.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
A hundred percent and , like you said, that energy to
wear sometimes not just one maskbut multiple layers of masks it
is it's mentally, emotionallyand becoming physically
exhausting and I just do notmiss that.
Let's talk about our good oldfriend.
We've checked the box onburnout.
Let's go on to our next friendperfectionism.
You actually one of your, theclient that you mentioned.

(24:57):
You talked a lot about her kindof like struggle with
perfectionism and healing.
From that I know a lot of ourlisteners kind of fall into that
camp too.
So what is one practical toolthat you share with clients that
are struggling with thatpattern of perfectionism?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, well, as I mentioned before the high
achievers who are kind of drivenby toxic shame.
Perfectionism is that.
And so when I say toxic shame,well, as humans, we wouldn't
have any emotions that, at somelevel, aren't healthy and
productive.
So that the healthy, productivereason we have the emotion of
shame is to understand ourlimitations, understand when we

(25:34):
need to reach out to others forsupport, when we need to, yeah,
know our limits so that we'renot, you know, burning ourselves
out.
All of that is is why we havethat.
But toxic shame is I need to.
I'm either subhuman orsuperhuman, and so perfectionism
is that superhuman end of thetoxic shame spectrum, and it's
this like grandiosity.

(25:55):
I'm either perfect or I'msubhuman, right, right.
And so for a lot of my highachieving, perfectionistic
clients, it's really learningagain, how do I allow for my
inherent humanness?
And so there's a phrase that Ilove to share with clients that
I say to myself all the timewhich is just how human of me.
So when I don't do somethingperfectly, when I make a mistake

(26:15):
, when I sent an email of me, sowhen I don't do something
perfectly, when I make a mistake, when I sent an email with a
typo, I can be like how human ofme.
You know, I have a lot going onLike I'm still, I'm still okay,
I'm still worthy.
So just that phrase saying it toourself, how human of me.
What it does is, it actuallyregulates our nervous system.
It moves from feeling in thatsurvival state of oh, I'm not

(26:37):
worthy, I'm not safe, to howhuman of me.
Everyone makes mistakes, right.
And so I really try to practicethat.
And I was, you know, such aperfectionist I'm a recovering
perfectionist still, but justkeeping that top of mind, and
you know, things like I'm a, I'ma working mom, right, I work.
I have two young kids, and sosometimes there's gonna be those
thoughts that come up of like,oh, you're a shitty mom because

(27:00):
you're working and you're notwith them right now.
And then it's like, oh, howhuman of me, like I need to work
and I'm a parent, and like Ican't do it all, but it just
allows me to bring and meetmyself with compassion.
So I offer that, I think, solveto the stress that we can feel.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Absolutely.
Compassion's been a big topicand just I think it's going to
be my word of the year next year.
It's been like unrepeated in myhead and I just had this
epiphany last week when I was atlunch with a friend that I
don't remember what she had said, but it just sparked that
moment in me of like we can'thave compassion for others until
we have compassion forourselves.
And a lot of times I realizethis happens with judgment too.

(27:38):
A lot of times when we spendtime or we catch ourselves
judging others, it's because wespend so much time judging
ourselves and oftentimes thething we're judging in other
people is the thing we judgeharshly within ourselves.
And so I think for me, gettingover perfectionism was really to
just look at where I might'vebeen judging harshly and others
and go how am I judging myself?

(28:00):
And you know, can I let that go?
And the practice ofnon-judgment within mindfulness
too is another favorite of mine.
Just to kind of look at thatand be like you know it's okay
to let these things go, thateverything doesn't have to be
good or bad.
Sometimes it just can be.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
And compassion truly is so critical that we learn to
practice when we think aboutemotions.
So a dysregulated nervoussystem, it just means we have
emotions that we don't know howto be with fully and how to
fully process and regulatethrough them.
We're not allowing ourselves tofeel them, we're pushing them
down and we're suppressing andrepressing and we're coping, and

(28:42):
because of that, we're beingreally self-critical, right, and
so the only way we can actuallylearn to release rather than
recycle emotions is by meetingthose with compassion.
So being able to be like okay,of course you feel that way and
I, that makes sense.
And again, like that, just that, how human of me that I see you
, that's okay, I understand,like me, learning to meet

(29:04):
ourselves there.
Then we can actually release theemotions that we're feeling and
we can move on with a regulatednervous system.
We can move on clear headed.
When we don't, we meetourselves with self-criticism,
but when we judge ourselves,nothing ever in history has
changed with criticism andjudgment.
It just doesn't.
It shifts with love andcompassion, and so the more we

(29:26):
can apply that it's not justsome woo-woo touchy-feely, it's
actually the most effectivestrategy, right?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It really, really is, and I also think I learned this
.
For those of you who practicemeditation, one of my favorites
is the loving kindnessmeditation.
So definitely look it up,either headspace, calm, youtube,
and it is like a lot of timesabout holding space for those
sad like when I wake up and I'mjust like I'm sad about things,
I'm sad about the world, I'm sadabout whatever, or I'm angry

(29:53):
and I'm like holding my angerand like kind of having
compassion for that emotion andallowing it for it Because, like
I said, my coping mechanismwhen I was busy and burnt out
was numb, right, because I wasjust, like you said, suppressing
.
Suppressing because you have tokeep going and not feel,
because then you just over emoteand then you probably do feel
it's like a hot mess or it'sjust like not in a good way.

(30:15):
So for me, loving kindness wasdefinitely, and that meditation
was a practice that really sortof helped me work through that.
And I think this is a good time,too, to get into your work on
somatic practices, because howbody awareness can really help
us and I think really, too, thiscan really help you in your

(30:35):
career and career transformation, because I'll also throw this
out there.
Emma too, I used to kind of hitthat wall.
We all do right at like threeo'clock in the afternoon between
like work and stress andfatigue and tired, and rather
than grab a coffee, I used tolike schedule myself a little
huddle room and I would just dolike a quick 10 minute
meditation and I felt like I hada nap, and I would just do like
a quick 10 minute meditationand I felt like I had a nap.

(30:56):
It was the best thing ever.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Talk about filling up your tank, right, like that's
huge and so, yeah, what a hack,that's amazing, yeah, yeah.
And I think that so many peoplego through their day kind of
disconnected from the neck downright, like we're just like
trapped in our heads.
And yeah, we're like especiallyin the West, where these like
walking heads, but we're totallylike disassociated from our

(31:22):
bodies.
And you know, somatics, as Imentioned before, like soma
means the body, so somatics isall about like bringing in the
body, awareness and the nervoussystem.
The language of the nervoussystem is not English.
It's not going to speak to youin an English sentence.
It's in what we call somaticcues, so it's in the sensations

(31:43):
that you feel in your body.
So if you feel stressed, yourheart rate might start to get
faster, you might have sweatypalms, you might start to clench
your jaw, you might feelfidgety, you might have a pit in
your stomach, you might have alump or a frog in your throat,
right, we all know what theseare.
We might not have the languageof somatic cues, but that's
what's happening.
Your body is telling you thatyou feel unsafe at some level,

(32:09):
and so if we don't pay attention, we can't turn towards
ourselves with compassion.
We can't regulate it, and themore we're just disassociated,
the more our body's like I guessyou didn't get the message, so
I guess we're going to turn thisup until you're losing a third
of your hair, like I did, right?
So it's really, reallyimportant that we start to build

(32:29):
this awareness of our somaticcues, and each of us may
experience them somewhatdifferently, but you can really,
next time you're checking in orfeeling a little bit of stress,
do a quick body scan from, likethe top of your head just down
to your toes, slowly, almostlike you have a scanner.
That's like going down your bodyand just notice, like, what

(32:51):
sensations are alive, what'skind of calling out to you.
And as you do that, then Ireally invite you to try to
first name the emotion thatyou're feeling, because just
naming it as a way of bringingcompassion to it, it's seeing it
, it's acknowledging it, and soyou might be like I'm feeling
anxious, okay, great, where doyou feel that in your body?

(33:12):
And so really, again, zoning inon that and just feeling into
that sensation, and I like tojust use breath, so breathe into
the sensations that you'refeeling and that's just allowing
you to be really present withit.
It's not the pushing down andsuppressing and repressing and
coping and resisting anddistracting right, it's just
allowing yourself to be with it.
And so as you do that, then youcan think to yourself, ask

(33:36):
yourself what sound or movementwould help this emotion to
release.
Because the thing about emotionsis emotions are just energy in
motion.
They're sensations in and onthe body.
And so when we just breatheinto them and then we figure out
, okay, what sound or movementwould this energy and motion
like to be able to release?
Maybe it's like I need to likeflutter my lips right, maybe I

(34:00):
need to sigh loudly, maybe Ineed to scream into a pillow,
maybe I need to have a good cry,but it's just an energy buildup
that needs to move through.
And so when we learn to do that, we'll feel that energy crest
and that emotion subside andthen we can regulate.
And so, learning to do that,following the sensations in your
body and giving yourself thespace to open a release valve

(34:22):
and move that energy through,versus push it down.
And maybe you're like thinkingto yourself well, if I'm in a
meeting with my boss and theytrigger me, I can't just, like
you know, do that right there,great point.
But what you can do is at leastname the emotion you're feeling
internally and make a date withit later.
So you can say tonight at 7 pm,once my daughters go to sleep,
I'm going to take 20 minutes andI'm going to move that emotion

(34:45):
through, and that's really whatI try to do.
That develops really goodemotional hygiene and as we do
that, that regulates our nervoussystem.
There's a saying we can'tregulate any emotions.
We don't allow ourselves tofeel.
So first we have to feel it,then we can regulate.
And again, on the other side ofregulation is all of the ways
we intend and want to feel andshow up in the world.

(35:08):
And so I think that that'ssomething our society does us a
disservice around, and it's justsuch an important practice to
really be able to feel good andeaseful and at peace.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I love it.
I love it and I can imaginethis is probably really great,
though, too, for people who have, maybe like, anxiety about
speaking or performing right,because there's that status.
Most people are more afraid ofspeaking than death, you know.
Oh, I love it than death, youknow, yeah.
So knowing what?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
you're, knowing what triggers you and then being able
to, yeah, just sit in presence,be with yourself.
You know, so many of us areturning away from ourselves
rather than turning towards.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, and just being prepared for that, not just like
mentally, but physically both.
Like it's just going to helpyou show up that much better for
your everyday as well, likeit's going to help your
confidence.
You just going to help you showup that much better for your
everyday as well like it's goingto help your confidence.
You're going to be more present,body and mind, and I think that
also is another thing that kindof shows in people, right,
because we read body languagelike so subconsciously too, and
so when people are there andfully present and aware and

(36:11):
comfortable and confident intheir body, mind and
everything's aligned, it's like,oh, they're just so comfortable
and confident.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Where does that?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
come from?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, you feel it, you really do 80% of
communication is nonverbal right, and so we can try, we can
think we're fooling everyone,but if we don't feel that way
internally, it's going to readexternally.
And then those people who arereally magnetic and they're in
their power and you're justdrawn to them and they feel
powerful.
All of us have that capacity.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's who we are at our authentic nature.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's just a journey of coming home to that.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I love it.
I agree, I love it.
I want that for all of you thatare listening right now.
I love this.
All right, your method combinesa lot of mindset work, as we've
already talked about a littlebit, with strategy.
What's one surprising insightabout how these two elements
work together?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah.
So what I think and we'vetouched on this a little bit if
you don't do the mindset workfirst and you're just trying to
do the strategy of like, how doI achieve success?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Very often.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, you're orienting to the wrong version
of success.
You're creating the definitionof success from what I call your
conditioned self versus yourtrue self, and so you don't even
know.
Like.
So many clients come to me andyou know I'll ask them okay,
what do you want to achieve?
What are we working towards?
And they lay out this like goal, and as we get into the work,

(37:36):
it's clear that it was totallycoming from their conditioned
self, from their ego.
Right, it's not actually whatthey truly desire and so first
we have to do the mindset workto reconnect back to your
authenticity, your truth, yourinnermost self, and when we get
there then you can clarify thevision and create a strategy to

(37:56):
get there.
But if we don't do that mindsetwork then, like me, you're
going to climb the wrongmountain and you're only going
to realize that at the top right.
And so I think it's so, soimportant that we make the space
to do the inner work too, andthen, once we apply the strategy
and execute and take thosesteps towards it, we really get
to land at conscious successversus conventional success.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I love it, I love it and that's a great term.
I'm going to start putting thatout there.
It's like this is myconditioned self-responding, or
is this my true?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
self-responding.
And if you've been living inyour conditioned self for so
long you might be like what's mytrue self?
Or like I don't even know whatyou're talking about A hundred
percent.
It's just an invitation rightTo start to develop that
connection, because I promiseyou that self exists in all of
us.
I had no awareness of that selffor the longest time and now

(38:49):
that is my true North, myguiding you know light, how I
make decisions, how.
I coach myself through hardmoments.
It's all of that you knowconnection to self.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, that goes so nicely into the next question
too.
I mean, again, coming from, youknow, structured corporate
backgrounds, that can be reallyhard.
So maybe describe for us whatthe role of creativity plays and
your conscious success methodfor those who do come from those
very conditioned, verystructured environments, when
it's hard to kind of break fromthose sort of mental chains.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, it's funny so many of my clients, when I start
working with them, they don'tconsider themselves to be
creative, like, they've mistakencreativity with being like,
artistic, like, oh, I wasn'tgood at painting or drawing in
art class in you know, seventhgrade, so I guess I'm not
creative and it's like.
No, no, no, we're all creative.

(39:42):
To be human means to becreative, and, especially as
women, we're the most creativeforce on the planet.
We create life right, and socreativity is our purpose.
It's within us, and thatexpression is going to look
different for each of us, but weget so much energy Again, it's

(40:02):
a tank filler to be creative.
And creativity is just likebringing something into
existence that didn't existbefore, and so maybe that is
like a new presentation, maybeit's a new like methodology,
maybe it's a piece of writinglike, maybe it's cooking
something for dinner, right, butall of that is creative and all

(40:23):
of that really does energizeand nourish us.
But one of the like.
In order to be creative, we needto balance the being with the
doing.
So what do I mean by that?
So many of us are just stuck inthe doing.
It's like we're going from onetask to the next.
We're stuck in execution.
We're in go, go, go.
We have no time to tune inward,we have no time for that

(40:45):
spaciousness and in order tofeel creative we need to have
some of that time for the being,where inspiration can drop in,
where we can think divergently,where we have enough space to
look at things from a newperspective, and then that gives
us creative thought, creativeenergy, which we then can
execute and do the doing.
But so many of us have verylittle space for being and we're

(41:06):
all in the doing and then wedon't feel creative in our jobs
and then we're getting burnt out.
So being able to balance thatand understand the being
precedes the creativity whichthen can flow into the doing.
And that's again conscioussuccess.
We can create tremendoussuccess, we can be beautifully
compensated and all of that, butwe need to do it in a more

(41:26):
conscious and intentional way.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I love that so much.
I've mentioned this before Ithink probably it's been several
episodes, though, but onepractice I put into place a few
years back.
We do like we've rebranded it alittle bit this year.
We just launched the eventbrights if you want to go check
it out authentic ambition, goalsetter, like workshop and cohort
um, and so I tasked myself Ithink it was two years ago with

(41:51):
doing my own little quarterly metreat, which I even recommend
doing this for somebody that'seven working for somebody else.
I remember talking to a guy oncewho was running his own startup
company.
He was doing super well and hewas at this point where he told
me the people that they gavegenerous vacation time to three
weeks paid vacation and theystill weren't taking it.

(42:13):
He was giving them money totake vacation.
He's like I will pay you totake vacation.
It was still a struggle.
I'm like what is wrong with usin America that we just, even
when we have three weeks, we'relike not taking it.
So like one day once a quarter.
Like if you got kids delegate,you got a job.
Like tell them in advance atthe beginning of the year once a

(42:34):
quarter.
Here's my one day, like I amgoing to be taking that day off
Like and just honestly, eachquarter I did something
different.
Sometimes it was like reflectivework and kind of like you know,
taking like what you're sayingthis time.
Other times it was like I tookmyself to the art museum and I
spent like a really long timethere because usually I have to
like fly through with my kidsand it's like a space I always

(42:56):
want to be spending more time in, but I don't, because it's
always like to everybody else'stime and schedule and attention
span, so things like that, andjust kind of, or sometimes just
waking up and going with myintuition and saying this is
what I feel like doing, becauseI have that freedom, which is
never the case 364 days out ofthe year, but having that to me

(43:18):
as just a standard practice fourdays out of the year, that's
all it is when I just givemyself that autonomy and freedom
has been such a gift.
Highly recommend 10 out of 10.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, definitely.
Just put it out there.
Anyone can commit to four daysout of the year really, and it's
interesting, like this personyou're talking about wanting to
pay his team to take vacationand the thing that's at the root
of that is this likedysregulation of fear oh, but I
have so much to do and I'm goingto be up behind and what if I
fail?
And blah, blah, blah, blah.
So it really that's what's inthe way and so much of you know.

(43:48):
When we talk about burnout,it's like not actually the
external circumstances, it's howwe're, we're being with that.
But then when you're talkingabout these, like me, treats,
it's so important.
I have a practice that I loveto use with clients, called a
desire day, which is exactlythat.
It's like from when you wake upin the morning to when you lay
your head on the pillow at night, can you just follow your

(44:10):
intuition of what you desire inthat moment, and it feels so
stretchy for so many people.
But it's like okay, what do Idesire?
I want to stay in bed foranother 10 minutes and then can
you choose that and not makeyourself wrong, because that's
the other thing is, so manytimes where we're choosing
something that would actuallyfeel good and would regulate our
nervous system, we're then inour head being like but you

(44:31):
shouldn't be doing this, whichnever allows us to land, which
never allows us to settle, andso we don't actually get that
rest, we don't feel, you know,rejuvenated.
And so, being able to be likechoose your choice fully, I'm
going to follow this me treat ordesire day and I'm going to
fully lean into that and be like.
This is the only thing I needto do today is to follow my
desire to fill, pour into myself.

(44:53):
And when you catch that littlepesky voice being like but you
have so much to do, it's likethat's a tomorrow, a problem for
tomorrow, but today this iswhat I'm choosing and choose
that fully.
It's so, so important.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, it is the best, best gift you could give
yourself.
Happy holidays y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Truly, that's what I want for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Right, you've mentioned the girls once already
, so I'm going to say, as a twinmom who's transformed your
career, how do you help otherwomen balance major life
challenges as a part ofprofessional reinvention?
Because, yeah, that's a lot tojuggle, not just one kid, but
two.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, and I think what's been so helpful for me
and what I try to work on withmy clients is really looking at
everything as a season.
Nothing's going to last foreverbut it's identifying the season
that you're in and allowingyourself to consciously choose
your priorities in that season.
So you know, for example, thelast trimester of my pregnancy

(45:49):
and the first three months of mydaughter's life, I and it took
a lot of conscious thoughtbecause it wasn't in my nature
necessarily, but I had to reallygive myself permission to fully
slow down and to deprioritizework and to set up the systems
and the support for my businessto keep going.
But my priority was to createnew life and to bond with my

(46:13):
babies, right, and that's soimportant.
And so being able toconsciously choose that and be
like the season of life that I'min right now requires slowness,
it requires presence, itrequires so full of creative
energy I had so much to thenpour into my business, Whereas

(46:44):
if I hadn't made that choice ofthat season, I think I would
have just felt like I was doingsomething a little bit naughty
or I was failing at some levelthe whole time.
And so I think really, yeah,identifying your season,
identifying your priorities inthe season and then knowing it's
going to keep shifting and youget to keep choosing, but like
you can't have it all at once,Right, and so just giving

(47:05):
ourselves permission again.
We're not super human.
And so how do we look at theseason that we're in and really
do and choose beliefs andactions that are supportive of
that?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I love it.
That's such good advice.
It reminds me of the quote thebad news is nothing lasts
forever.
The good news is nothing lastsforever.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It's so true.
It's so true.
I feel that way every day,basically in parenthood, already
watching how quickly mydaughters change.
You're like, okay, so they'rewaking up every hour during this
developmental leap, but itdoesn't last forever.
But then also the beautifulmoments.
You're like they're going to goso fast.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Absolutely Yep, practicing and embracing
impermanence.
All right you you said it therejust a moment ago to this whole
um having it all, doing it all,being it all.
As a coach who focuses onauthentic success, how do you
help clients redefine that ideaof having it all?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, so really, this is a huge part of the work that
we do at Conscious Success isdefining your personal
definition of success and thenredesigning your career to
achieve that, and so we spoke tothis a little bit.
But I differentiate betweenconditioned success and
conventional success accordingto six vectors.

(48:21):
I'm happy to go into that ifthat makes sense.
Yeah, so the first vector isthe mind, and so when we're
orienting towards conditionedsuccess or, sorry, conventional
success, this is all conditionedthinking.
This is who I should be, thisis the expectations that society
holds, this is what you knowsuccess looks like according to

(48:42):
other people, but maybe notaccording to me versus
intentional.
So when we're aligning withconscious success, we're
intentionally choosing what do Ibelieve, what is supportive for
me, what do I choose Right?
And again, like, we have tolook at our programming, look at
our paradigms, look at whatwe've kind of held to be true

(49:04):
that isn't a capital T truth andstart to bring intentional
thought to that so we can startto orient towards our own North
Star.
So that's on the mind level.
On the body level, it's movingfrom a survival state to a flow
state.
So, again, if we have adysregulated nervous system,
we're in that fight flight,freeze, fawn response and we are

(49:24):
making decisions and we'reacting out of fear.
We're trying to protect ourlife, and somebody told me this
once.
I wish I could credit it to theperson I heard this from.
But when you are trying toescape a threat, like if you're
running away from a boogeyman,you don't know where you're
running to you just are runningaway Versus when we're not

(49:47):
running away, we're movingtowards desire, towards love.
We can be in that flow state andwe can have clarity of vision
and we can lean into our giftsand we can really be congruent
with all of our faculties online.
And that flow state where youjust feel like, oh my gosh,
everything is clicking and thisfeels amazing.

(50:08):
That's the kind of success thatis possible when we're really
regulated and aligned towardsour authentic desires.
The third vector is energy, andso this is really about moving
from depleting energy togenerative energy, and so when
we're doing too many workloads,too many things that we should
be doing, that we're highlycompensated for that we've

(50:30):
learned how to do over time, butwe don't actually get energy
from they deplete us.
Again, we talked about thatearlier with the burnout versus
when we do the things that giveus energy, that are generative,
know when we do it, we mightleave having more energy than we
came in with Right, and that'struly possible.
People, I don't think I everbelieved that before.

(50:51):
I actually felt what that waslike.
That is how I live and movethrough my day and career and so
really looking at that energyand being able to kind of assess
what's depleting my energy andwhat's kind of increasing it,
that's super important.
The fourth is motivation.
So am I orienting towardsexternal validation or towards

(51:12):
internal fulfillment?
And I think this is a big one.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
So many of us get caught.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, we're like, oh well, this is what's going to
make me look cool or pretty orsuccessful or all of that stuff.
And we're abandoning our owntruth, our own voice, our own
values versus what makes me feelfulfilled.
And even if others don't get it, even if others judge me for it

(51:39):
, it that's what it's my life.
Right, and this was a big one Ihad to sit with when I moved
out of tech and started my owncoaching business.
People are like, sorry, whatyou have, the dream job Like,
what are you doing?
And it's like I don't need youto understand.
This is where I feel alive,this is where I feel fulfilled.
And now people you know reallyget it.

(52:00):
Having, you know, years later,seeing the business that I've
built, but at the time theydidn't, and I had to still
choose that, even when othersdidn't, and that's that's a big
one.
The fifth one is alignment, andso this is all about are you
orienting towards strengtheningyour weaknesses or developing
your strengths?
And again, we talked about thatearlier.
But rather than just trying toshore up my, my blind spots are

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the things that I'm notnaturally talented at.
How do I really double down onthe things that I am, and you
know anyone like in my pastcareer, I was never naturally
talented at like Excelspreadsheets right.
I was very confident, I wasvery good at it.
But, like um, I could spend allmy time trying to get better at
that, or I could really leaninto, like you know, what I'm

(52:43):
really good at is.
I'm good at systems thinkingand figuring out the problems
and solving for those.
So if I double down on that,I'm going to have a bigger
impact, right.
So learning how to to reallyhonor our strengths is huge.
And then the last one as wellare you sacrificing your values
or are you honoring your values?
So I'm all for being fabulouslywealthy and well compensated for

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our work, but if we aresacrificing our values in an
endless pursuit of more of moremoney, it doesn't feel wealthy
on the inside versus when wemake money which allows us to
live into our values, it allowsus to give to the charities, it
allows us to support ourfamilies, it allows us to do the
work that we love, right.
And there is a tipping pointwhere oftentimes we start to

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sacrifice our values if we'rejust chasing an endless amount
of more rather than knowing whatour enough point is.
So I think by these six vectorswe can start to define our own
definition of conscious successand then, once we get that
clarity, we can start to defineour own definition of conscious
success.
And then, once we get thatclarity, we can start to reverse
engineer kind of okay, where amI, where do I want to be, how
am I going to get there?
And then do the work to startto take that aligned action.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I love it.
Those are great points.
I love it.
I know I was taking notes.
I hope you were too listeners.
We're going to have a fewminutes at the end too, which
we're coming close to, for youto ask questions.
So feel free to use the chat ifyou have questions.
We would love to hear from you,of course.
I just, of course, now justopened it and I'm like
everybody's like hello, oh hi,brenda, it's good to see you and
hear from you.

(54:12):
That's so great.
Yes, you can ask questions.
No-transcript currency.

(54:42):
Sometimes currency comes in aform that's different than a
paycheck.
I understand we need money tosurvive, I totally get that.
But at the end of the day too,that there's just so much more
value out there and currency inthe world than just what goes
into the bank account.
I did not realize that until Iwas almost 40.
So I'm just telling y'all now Iwant you all to have that kind

(55:06):
of job that helps fill your bankaccount, but then also you hear
that mental cha-ching thatfills your heart, your body,
your soul in that way that,really, that I've never felt in
any other role or any other job.
So, yes, please drop thosequestions into the chat if you
have them, all right, I'm goingto ask one more question and

(55:28):
then we'll go.
We're going to be able to dotwo.
We'll see.
Maybe we can get to two morebefore we go to our fun little
power round, unless we havequestions from our listening
audience.
I love that you guys have beencommenting, so it sounds like
everybody's engaged, which isfantastic.
All right, what is one practicethat our listeners can start
doing today to begin toreconnect with their authentic

(55:49):
career desires?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah.
So I think this one on theenergy vector is a really
helpful way to start to connectwith that.
So a practice I love to give myclients is look back at the
last two weeks of your life andwrite down everything that took
like 15 or 30 minutes or more ofyour time, like write a big

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list of everything on there andthat can be professional,
personal.
Put it all there and then godown and next to everything that
increased your energy, do alittle up arrow.
Next to everything that kept ittotally flat, like didn't
increase or decrease it sidearrow and anything that
decreased your energy, put adown arrow and then go through

(56:32):
and first of all just look likeroughly what percentage of time
are you spending in the thingsthat give you energy, what
percentage are you spending inthings that keep it flat and
what percentage are you spendingin things that decrease your
energy?
Right there, if you have like50% in decreasing your energy,
like there's an alignment issuehere, right, like we got to

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address that.
So next to everything that's adown arrow, then what I invite
my clients to do is think abouthow you can delete, delegate or
do differently.
So what do I mean by thatDelete is how can you stop doing
it?
Like, maybe when you havefriends over for dinner, you
think you need to make like athree course fancy meal and what

(57:14):
you could do is like order inpizzas and just be like super
relaxed and happy and yourfriends might have a better time
because you're not stressed outright, or you make one dish
instead of three.
So there's some things that youcan just stop doing.
It's something we're putting onourselves, which isn't
something that is required of usand that can shift a lot.
On the delegate front, I think,especially as women, so often we

(57:38):
don't think about who cansupport me, who else can do this
, who else could take this on?
And so, really stepping intothat, whether that's in our
family, on our teams, what mightdecrease your energy might be
in someone else's zone of geniusthat increases their energy too
, and so you're not doing anyoneelse necessarily a disservice

(57:58):
by not doing the things youdon't enjoy.
They really might, and sothat's how we again build high
performing teams.
So, having those conversationsand thinking more creatively
about okay, who else could Idelegate this to, or how could I
bring on support to help,that's really powerful.
And then the third one is do itdifferently.
So some things you just have todo in your life and in your job
right, but we can choose adifferent way of approaching it

(58:22):
or a different mindset to it.
So you know, for example, maybeyou need to like fill out a
bunch of you know a Salesforcespreadsheet or something, but
you could put in a podcast thatyou love, or you could take a
call outside on a walk ratherthan just doing it at your desk.
It's like you're still doingthe same thing, but you're doing
it in a way that feels totallydifferent.

(58:44):
And so I challenge you forthose things that you just can't
delete and you can't delegate,how could you do them
differently?
And that can be a huge shift.
And then also for the thingsthat increase your energy.
Look at that.
How can you do more of it?
What about those things areincreasing your energy?
How might you be able to flipsome of the sideways arrows to
up arrows if you applied thatsame approach to that?

(59:05):
So just bringing that it's sucha helpful tool for awareness
and I think the ideal to aim forand most people will probably
be like I'm so far away fromthat is like 80% in energy
increasing.
It takes time, but withconscious, empowered choice and
continuing to to lean more intothat, it's totally possible.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, that's baby steps.
I love it.
I love a good energy audit.
Those are, it's like such agood tool.
Thank you for that.
That's fantastic.
All right, let's go into.
I don't see any questionscoming from the live listening
audience, but let's go into ourpower round questions.
To wrap things up, what is yourgo-to stress relief practice?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
For me personally, it's journaling.
I just find so much clarity bywriting down the gunk that's in
my head and slowing down enoughto freehand write it onto the
page, and I actually coachmyself.
So sometimes I'll like pose aquestion and then I'll answer it
for myself too.
It's just a way of, like me,moving through everything
everything and anything that'sfeeling kind of misaligned

(01:00:05):
getting the clarity andunderstanding what's the next
right step or aligned action Iget to take from here.
It's just so important.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
That's fantastic.
All right, let's see Netflixpodcast and I'm also throwing a
third one or books for downtime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
At the end of a day, I would say it's Netflix.
My husband and I, do you know,veg out together in bed and
watch some Netflix.
I love my podcast, but thathappens usually during the day
when I'm a little bit moreonline.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Love it, your most used app that surprises people.
Yeah, online.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Love it, your most used app.
That surprises people.
So I use an app called Telegramto voice note and text with all
my clients, and so it's just away of like separating out all
my work communications from mypersonal communications.
When I'm in there all day long,you know, sharing in their wins
, coaching them throughchallenges, all of that.
The other thing that I use alot is an app called Notion.

(01:01:02):
I'm not sure if you're familiarbut it's kind of a project
management and so.
I put all of my tasks personal,otherwise into Notion so they're
not in my brain gunking that upand I can get that energy back.
So I'm always like droppingthings in there and then I'll
come and be like, okay, let meput some, some to-do dates and
deadlines and organize myself.

(01:01:22):
I actually have built atemplate and notion that I use
with a lot of my clients andgive them access to.
That helps run your whole kindof life and business.
So if anyone wants access tothat, just DM me on on Instagram
at conscious success co andI'll send you my template.
It's really helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
That's brilliant.
I love it, love it, love it andI love your voice coaching idea
.
I was at one of my friends whojust got her coaching
certification.
She's my hype woman and that'show she always texts me is
through voice, and it just Isave them for when I need them
because I just need to hear thehype.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Love it, so it's such a nice way to connect and
really hear again all of the.
You can hear the intonationsand the pauses.
There's so much more that cancome through there, absolutely
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
And then we'll wrap up this future-proofing your
career podcast episode with thebest career advice that you've
ever received.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Oh, there's so much.
But you know, recently I'vebeen reading Ina Gardens Be
Ready when the Luck Happens, herbook, and in it she talks about
how her husband, jeffrey,always told her do what you love
and you'll be really great atit.
And I think that that's justsuch good advice.
So, to do what you love, and ifyou love it, you're going to be
really great at it, and I thinkthat that's just so simple but

(01:02:33):
so true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Absolutely, Emma.
Thank you so much for all ofthis, this was wonderful.
Thank you to our live listeningaudience for showing up and
listening, and to all of youlisteners out there.
We appreciate you all so much.
Next week is Thanksgiving week,so we are taking the week to
just rest and be grateful.
You have plenty of episodes togo back and listen to, so please
take it back, listen to some ofyour favorite episodes, start

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back at the beginning, whatevertickles your fancy.
There's plenty of amazingpeople to listen to and learn
from.
We appreciate you all.
Thanks for joining us today and, until then, keep listening,
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We'll see you all soon.
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