Tom and D

Tom and D

Tom and D – The Only Entertainment Podcast That Admits It’s Faking It Ever wonder how people really make it in the entertainment business, or just business, or even in life? So do Tom and D. These two long-time friends have somehow carved out careers in the industry—despite feeling like total hacks. Are they talented? Lucky? Just really good at faking it? They’re not sure either, but they’re willing to talk (and laugh) about it. Each episode, Tom and D swap stories, roast each other, and dive into the messy, hilarious world of entertainment, business, and the business of entertainment. They also welcome a mystery guest—an industry insider, a rising star, or just someone with a great story—because, honestly, surprises make everything better. If you like behind-the-scenes chaos, and two guys questioning their own life choices, Tom and D is your new favorite listen.

Episodes

June 24, 2025 51 mins

In this episode, our hosts Deren Abram and Tom Fry swap stories that’ll either have you laughing or wondering, “wait… what?” — including Tom’s less-than-thrilling tale about his grandfather in Greece (spoiler: not exactly The Odyssey) and D’s hilarious confession about inventing a fake assistant just so he could follow up with clients without looking like a total idiot.

Tom’s guest this time is film and stage actor David Caprita. To...

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In this episode, D’s guest is entertainment lawyer Dave Ratner from The Creative Law Network in Denver, Colorado. Through some laugh-out-loud but surprisingly informative chats, they dive into the legal landmines that filmmakers and artists constantly stumble over. Along the way, we also uncover Dave’s rock ‘n’ roll past as a band manager before he traded backstage passes for law books.

This episode is as hilarious as it is eye-open...

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In this episode, D’s guest is longtime friend and multi-hyphenate screenwriter-producer-director, Gregory Poppen.

Greg and Deren first crossed paths back in the day on movie sets, and while Deren was busy doing… well, whatever Deren does, Greg was busy building a career that stretches across just about every corner of entertainment. From heartwarming Disney holiday specials to edgy ESPY Awards monologues, and even wrangling the live...

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In this episode, Tom surprises everyone by bringing on an unexpected guest — his mom, Kathleen O’Brien: author, and once officially the “most heard voice in America.”

Kathleen shares some amazing (and hilarious) stories, from a cringy encounter with Larry King, to being literally the voice everyone heard across the country, to writing the most “seen” slogan in America. She also dives into the wisdom she’s packed into her book, Recla...

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In this first episode, the hosts (Deren Abram and Tom Fry) kick around names for their new podcast—half-jokingly calling it "Tom and D.” but then going with it.

Between laughs, Tom opens up about their friendship since college and trying to quit vaping.

They bring in Brian Wilson, a podcast producer for influencer-giants like MeatDad and drops some wisdom on podcasting and content creation. He shares the wild success story of MeatD...

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