May 27, 2025 • 29 mins
This episode delves into the challenges of parenting in a consumer-driven society, contrasting our childhood experiences with modern-day realities. We share personal stories highlighting the nostalgia of starter jackets and the implications of raising overly pampered children in an often disposable world.
• Growing up with significant differences in childhood wealth
• The importance of teaching kids the value of hard work
• Reflections on iconic 90s fashion and nostalgia
• The absurd evolution of children’s footwear trends
• Balancing technology use with childhood experiences
• Navigating the complexities of modern parenting
If you enjoyed this episode, let us know how our stories resonate with your experiences!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Top Shelf Stories with J, chris and Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up, fellas Yo what up.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What up, dude, what up?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So, tony hey.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So Jay's such a fucking trap?
All right, I'm in the middle oftalking right now.
I'm used to that.
Jay took it real serious, tookoff his headphones, curled up in
a little ball on his couch.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not yet.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm sharing the couch with you, so my son just
celebrated a birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Congratulations.
How old is he?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He's 12.
And in the short 12 years he'sbeen on this planet, he has
gotten everything he's everwanted dude, our kids are gonna
be wrecked and and at this point, at this point, he's just we're
(01:23):
just getting him shit to gethim shit.
Now, right, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There, there's like nothing left that he wants so
that playstation 3 that you gotfor him, it was never used,
right the?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
playstation 5, the old school.
He's on it every day.
Matter of fact, it's been ayear since he's played with his
Xbox.
Why is?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
PlayStation more popular.
Why does he have both?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I have both and he's got Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, I have that too .
Yeah, keep naming it off, Iprobably have it.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Mm-hmm.
The fuck is wrong with youpeople.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I like tech, but we just got done.
You know it's like he's beenopening presents since Christmas
.
I know you're probably notlistening to this right now, but
it's the very beginning ofJanuary when we're recording
this.
He still has unopened presents.
No, actually he had to take abreak christmas because his
(02:26):
unwrapping arm got sore yeah,right, I guarantee you got all
of your, both of your kids,three presents each no, no,
those kids get a lot of shityeah, I got 18 for each one of
mine so, so this is where I'mgoing with it, right, um, my
kids, my kids, get spoiled to alevel that, um, you know, it's
(02:53):
like the thing you always wantto give your kids better than
you had sure, and I get that.
Here's the thing.
My my wife grew up really poorand she thought she grew up
really poor until she heardabout how poor I grew up.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, first off, you're there for them.
That is a present all in itselfthat you have not experienced.
So you're already ahead of theball.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But the game but we live in a super disposable world
where, where you know things,things are made super poorly and
they're made really affordableand it's not that big of a deal
to just get your kids somethinganymore um well, you didn't
(03:35):
think of like the cost of avideo game.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The video games are still like 60 bucks, right they?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
were 60 bucks in the 90s I know it's kind of mario
brothers.
It's kind of like a used car.
If you buy it right, when itcomes out it's 60.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You wait two weeks, it's 50 sure but like, yeah, but
things are kind of cheaper inthe entertainment sector.
The, the tech sec, yeah forreal.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So we got to talking about about some stuff from my
childhood and I.
I never really had a lot andlike of anything tony's like.
Remember, when we order pizza, Ihave to eat that for five days,
so so we, we were talking aboutsomething and we weren't even
(04:24):
on the subject of these gifts oranything like that.
But my son started talkingabout NBA logos yesterday, okay,
and he was looking through andhe wanted me to pick out my
favorite three.
And I'm looking through themand I'm like, oh man, I'm like
some of these are so differentthan what I remember from back
(04:45):
in the day.
And he pulled up this retrolist of NBA logos.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The game's not only got the logos of today, it's got
the logos through history.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Aren't they kind of the same throughout?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Sort of, but not.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Some of them are.
Some of them are wildlydifferent, but one that remains
semi-unchanged Bucks the BullsIs the Bulls the Spurs Charlotte
.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Hornets.
They're not even a team anymore, though.
Well, I'm saying like they'relike bobcats or wizards.
Now Something, something.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
There's no Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They're in a different state, but I'm saying
when you go through all the oldlogos when you go through all
the old logos, it says like thislogo.
From this time to this time,this logo, like the Bucs, have
like nine different logos andsome of them even more than that
, and through all these lists,like throughout the history of
(05:43):
the Charlotte Hornets, it wasalways the same logo not called
charlotte hornets, I'm saying onthis retro list okay, sorry,
this logo throughout this amountof time.
so I seen that old logo and Iwas like, oh shit, and it made
me.
It made me remember aboutsaving my money for such a long
(06:05):
time For everything, to buy aCharlotte Hornets starter
pullover jacket.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Everybody wanted that , oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
God Dude, I had a Michigan Wolverines one.
People were getting shot.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
My brother got beat up for one.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think it was a Charlotte Hornet one.
I want to tell you, though, theCharlotte Hornet one was for
girls.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
My brother had that one too, though I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, it was for girls.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I mean.
I'm okay if you're calling me abitch, but don't you fucking
talk about Dan like that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hey, tony, explain the pullover.
It was like half zip down, soso it zipped down.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It zipped down to basically the bottom of your rib
cage.
I had the whole front of it wasa kangaroo pouch so I had not a
starter.
Oh whoa I'm still, stillexplaining.
It was made out of superterrible polyester polypropylene
tarp material.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It had like a, like a tent like feel to it like, yeah
, like sort of rain, repellentbut not quite very it was made
very poor quality paintedzippers.
It was made of of used tentsfrom campgrounds all around the
usa I'm confident that ourparents told us to not chew on
(07:31):
our zippers when we were little,not for our teeth but for
preparation for preparation ofthese coats zippers and, at the
time, I remember that too,that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, we're talking early 90s.
Oh yeah, they were so expensive, oh yeah I don't remember how
much they were.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They were like 69.95.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, they were more than that they were.
They were over a hundreddollars.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So do you remember?
So that was starter jacketsright starter starter starter if
it wasn't starter so you gotthe finisher no, there was a
brand called logo athletic.
It was an la.
It was the same fucking coat,except for on the zipper thing
instead of a starter s and astar.
(08:20):
Yeah, you're fucked.
It was an l and an a?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I've never seen those , ever you don don't know Logo
Athletic no.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So I had a Buffalo Bills one, because it was blue
and red and white, like America.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And it had a little button.
You pressed on it that everytime you press this it puts the
lotion on the skin.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, it was a Buffalo Bills, wasn't that his?
Name the football team no, thatwas Hann Buffalo Bills, wasn't
that his name?
The football team?
No, that was Hannibal.
Lecter, tony doesn't even knowthe Buffalo Bills are so I never
got the foo-foo baby powderblue like the color of my car,
one like that yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It was a pretty color pretty.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But but here's the thing in in 1993 you weren't
shit if you didn't have astarter pole.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I wasn't shit then, dude well, you also needed to
get the start or the nike airshoes maybe it was a starter,
maybe, it was a start, it is astarter.
You had it had to say start hadlogo athletic though you could
have nike, but if you didn'thave the nike starter, just like
a nike air, you're not the shitso.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So I had several paper routes growing up, because
if I had to rely on my familyto buy me designer things I
would still be waiting.
So I had all these paper routes.
Me and my buddy split about adozen of them.
We were delivering paperssomewhere along the lines of 90
to 100 hours a week.
Was it the news like the actualnewspaper, the Milwaukee
(09:54):
Journal Sentinel?
Okay, or actually it was theMilwaukee Journal yeah, 90 to
100 hours a week.
Was it the news like the actualnewspaper, the milwaukee
journal sentinel, or?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
actually it was the milwaukee journal.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and then we also had the weekend sentinel
route because we weren't allowedto do the week does the
sentinel routes because theywere mornings does the weekend
pay more or the week pay more?
Weekend by a lot really, yeah,dude, we had to go steal
shopping carts just to get themover to our route and we had
(10:21):
shopping carts parked at the endof blocks and we used to have
to.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You used to have to go down to the big warehouse and
pick up your papers to deliverto you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
they didn't take them to the neighbors I don't know
what they do now and all thelosers would have one route and
they would be able to carry themto their route.
But you know, we were pickingup pallets worth of newspapers
every week, so we were stealingshopping carts.
But I just I saved up foreverto get this fucking jacket and
(10:51):
it was such a big deal to me andI was so excited to finally be
like, have have, like the coolthing, and I swear to god, that
thing got stolen within two days, did you get?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
beat up and raped.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No only got, raped, only got beat up once and only
got raped once and they weren'trelated you sat down at a george
webb, put it on the peg andsomeone took it off the peg no,
we were, uh, we were playingbasketball in my friend's
driveway.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Um and I use that term loosely it wasn't like a
normal driveway, you, youimagine in a cul-de-sac.
It was like he had a littleconcrete pad behind his house
and his house was positioned onthe street very awkwardly and
his dad ran a business out oftheir garage.
So they poured this bigconcrete pad and we had a
(11:47):
basketball hoop that you couldactually actually now, I think
about.
It was bolted to his porchupstairs and, uh, we would play
in this little concrete pad andthere were just a couple kids
playing with us and one of themgrabbed my coat and took off and
I didn't realize he did it andit was gone and I never seen it
(12:09):
again.
And, uh, and I'm telling my kidabout this and he's like, why
don't?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
you go buy another one, he goes he goes well.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Which one did you get to replace it?
And I said there was noreplacing it.
I'm like I didn't have parentslike you have, where we oh you
don't have a coat.
Now we go out and get you acoat.
My mom was like tough shit, youshould have put a bike lock on
it to the railing, like that'syour fault.
(12:42):
So I had to go back to wearingmy generic winter coat.
Yeah, and uh, I was not a fan.
I was not a fan of my my kidbrought up.
Uh, he goes.
How come every time you tell mea story about about how you got
the most amazing thing growingup, like the coolest thing, and
(13:05):
the stories always end and itgets stolen.
And I said, there again, I grewup in a city, you grew up on a
cul-de-sac.
Yeah, dude, fucking everythingI've ever owned was stolen every
bike, every fucking goodbaseball card I had so on, on a
(13:26):
cul-de-sac, when there's anunfamiliar car driving down
everyone calls the authorities,get notified immediately who the
fuck is this?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
what the fuck you doing?
You cannot turn around in mycold sack.
What is that?
A 2019?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
what the fuck call the police?
It's a 2019.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
They're not from here oh my god, immediately,
immediately.
You drive into my subdivisionright now with, uh, with your
little beater ass van jay.
Uh, people, people areimmediately sharing ring videos.
Anybody know this person issomebody having uh, yeah, like
(14:10):
somebody having roofing workdone.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Do you have a roofing work, an app or something for
local?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh no, there's a group chat of 20 women.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Oh so everyone puts you in a group chat.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
No, the guys don't get in on it, my big thing when
I was a kid was my grandmotherwould get us new shoes every
year for Christmas.
She gave what New shoes.
And I could buy like almost anyshoes I wanted, except for
Jordan's, I think 75 bucks wasmy line that I was allowed to
buy.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You get the Jordan and these shoes.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jordan airs.
I would get almost for likethree or four years in a row.
I got the Reebok pumps, the lowtops.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They were the Emmett Smith pumps.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Because, again, nike was too high, too high price
those fucking things you pump,they don't even fucking inflate.
I had one that had the littlelittle basically like a
Schroeder valve, a Schroedervalve on there with a little
canister of nitrous that youthink CO2 you would put in your
(15:18):
hand.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh dude, I had this thing.
It was like the size of twolighters and it came with a
little canister, like a whippedcream canister, like the little
whipped cream canisters that.
Whippets are in, but this wasCO2, I think.
And what have you put too muchco2 in there, your fucking?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
shoe explodes.
Yes, that's exactly what wouldhappen, dude, if you put too
much in it would explode.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Back in the 90s, there was a price for every game
you played, but I remembered, Iremembered because, these
little containers were, like youknow, 89 cents or something,
and so I only had 10 or so.
So I would always be the guywho was just pumping them by
hands.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Because I didn't want to use up my fucking Sprayer.
I never knew they had a CO2cartridge for the pump.
I mean, that's a lazy person'spump.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Who else had those shoes?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I had those too.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Who was the basketball player that wore them
?
Barkley maybe?
Yeah, barkley definitely hadthose.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Do you know what I'm?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
talking about I know.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Tony, do you know what he's talking about?
The pumps Like a basketball,half basketball, in front of the
lip or the sole or whatever thefuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
On the tongue.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That's the word I was looking for, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And it pumped up the tongue to make them fit tighter
on your foot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's all they do the shoe that I would get had
these ratchet strapping linesover the ties too that you could
fucking ratchet down.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Where the fuck are you finding these shoes?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Dude, they were the shit, the Emmitt Smiths.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Dude, I had I'm looking them up I had some cream
colored Bo Bo Jackson's and Ifucking loved more than life
itself, and if I could get thoseagain I'd buy them again and
put them in a frame, or sometype of solo proof glass.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So those shoes were really popular, but I had to
change my style based on mybudget.
Yeah, this was once a year.
There was no like runningaround in jordans.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That was for my rich friends dude, the pumps weren't
that expensive I think I Ialways had the nike cortez's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What?
Are those yeah, what the fuckis that?
Um, basically cholo shoes likelike if you were in a gang and
you were hispanic.
You probably still havecortez's, so you're rolling in
the hispanic games and, uh, thecortez's were slightly coming
back.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
What was your gang name, tony?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
uh, I was never affiliated with a gang, the
chubby tacos, no, no, no, theywouldn't let me in because I
wasn't full-blooded Hispanic.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you try to get in gang?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, Never tried.
It's always like we want me tokill.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, dude, right here.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'll go kill somebody for you with the rage for my
stolen starter jacket.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
What is it, Chris?
What do you got?
What did you find?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The Reebok preseason.
Emmitt Smith pumps.
That was the shoe dude.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't remember this .
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That was the shoe.
You see that little black knob.
Is that the shoe?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
you had.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You see that little black knob right there on the
tongue that's the pump.
That was where.
No, that little black knob.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh, that's a release to air.
No, that was where you insert.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, that was where you inserted the fucking.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Oh, really oh my God.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, that was also the release, but there was like
a little valve in there dude.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That was the craziest and weirdest thing that I
thought was cool.
At the same time I didn'tunderstand it, and I think
that's the thing that soldsomething you don't understand
the Merlin Nike.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Cortez's, those look, I would buy them today.
I actually did buy a pair oflike three years ago and they're
.
They're not cheap, they're here, Like they're still $90.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
36 bucks.
That's a normal price for ashoe, 36 bucks for the red ones.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They look used but wait, are they red or the yellow
Are like they for the red ones.
They look used.
But Wait, are they red or arethey yellow?
They're white and red, butthey're actually yellow and red.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Hey, those kids that made them shoes are our age.
Now what?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
These are the shoes right here.
These are the exact pair I had,I think.
Okay, explain it, though no onecan see a fucking picture it's
a pump with a strap over the topor you could strap it down.
It had velcro.
It looks like there was a pumpwith the tongue.
It's a shoe, I don't know theylook way more complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You're the one who made us record a podcast today
okay, now listen.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Uh, my kids shoes that they like nowadays look
like fucking foreign objectsfrom an alien world.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, the shoes now are wild.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
They're ridiculously ugly.
They are abstract.
First off, they don't even makesense.
I don't think you can even puta fucking foot in them.
Literally, they have angles andfolds and things that just
don't make sense.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Those are the shoes that I bought my child yesterday
.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That actually looks normal compared to the ones I've
seen, and this shoe he'sshowing me just has a huge sole
and it's very bright andcolorful.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
See, they're fucking weird too.
Very bright and colorful.
They probably weighed like ahalf of a half a pound.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, so they're Giannis shoes.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Oh, Giannis has got really bright.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He likes the bright colored shoes and they're purple
in the back and they gradientthrough a couple different blues
and end up being turquoise atthe toe of the shoe.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So both of my kids have the Giannis shoe and one
shoe is different color,different color than the other
shoe.
Is it different color?
No, they're both the same color.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Uh, they're in a very bizarre shape for a shoe and
there's very bizarre lines thatrun through them.
I look at what kids like nowand and I just think every
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single time like I would havegot my fucking ass whooped for
wearing that shit.
Like there's no way that thekids are great above me.
Wouldn't just beat me,senseless but tony yeah, wearing
like hot pink shoes, like thesekids wear the wildest kids.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They're wearing it yeah, the kids above them are
wearing the same fucking shoesremember our pants.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They would be so wide at the bottom.
Now, these jankos now thesepants.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, they're all tight as hell, like jay's, like jay's
, jay's, fashionable I looked atjay's pants and I'm like did
you have to roll those on you?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
um.
First off, they're sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They're not actual you probably had to get them wet
so that they were a little morestretchy.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That would make it way harder to put on but hey, so
let's go back to these.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The kids now.
They get everything, righteverything.
The kids get everything.
There's nothing left to givethem I'm starting to worry that
that's a problem that's aproblem.
It's a very huge problem.
It's a very big problem and Inotice it in the actions of my
child where, like the littlestthing like the internet oh dude,
(22:34):
we've had spotty internetlately with my internet thing
it's not fucking working forsome reason.
Every once in a while it stopsand it means the TV stops, it
means the Google devices stop,that means the fucking iPad with
the YouTube on it stops, andit's like the kids don't know
what to do with themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Am I right?
10 seconds into no internet andthey're like I'm bored, I'm
bored.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Dude.
Well, the new trend that I'venoticed with kids is if you talk
about something you want topurchase, like today my kids
were talking about the squidgames show on netflix.
It's a very popular thing forevery fucking person in this
world and they will.
He, my son, my youngest son,wanted to buy all the games they
(23:24):
play in the show and my wife'slike, okay, I'll look it up on
amazon.
Just I found one for 10 bucks.
It's like no, you gotta buy itfrom tiktok tiktok shop.
What the fuck is tiktok shop?
Do you guys know?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
what?
Do you guys know what that is?
Uh, it's a place you can go andbuy super cheap, super asian
made shit.
Yeah, it's probably the samething as timo.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, yeah, but Teemu has a way better name.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's just Amazon on TikTok but like okay.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
so kids don't know Teemu, they don't know TikTok
shop, because they watch thisshit.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, it's advertising in the app.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That is fucking brilliant.
It's the app trying to keep youin the app.
These guys that do these appsunderstand and they see the age
groups that kids are like, theyknow their understand and they
see the age groups that kidslike, they know their
demographic and they sell totheir my kids.
Everything they want is onTikTok shop Make your kids trade
.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Fuck the TikTok shop.
Make your kids trade phones.
They're completely differentage groups.
They'll go on YouTube on theirbrother's phone and they'll be
like what the fuck is this?
You should try it.
I wonder how much they wouldn'teven be.
They're not even that far apart.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
They even use the right ages, so I don't
understand how they can actuallyall your kids, according to the
app, are in their mid-30s the.
The app knows, it knows how,because it's that simple
although my my youngest kid didDid just get kicked off From
TikTok Like they deleted hisentire TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh yeah, you can only search Titties so many times,
you should.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I don't know, man, they know that, even though
you signed on as an adult forhim.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I didn't do that.
He did it himself, chris.
You think I'm that gonna?
I didn't do that, he did ithimself.
Chris.
You think I would?
I'm that irresponsible?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
okay, don't answer that but yeah, I don't know man,
I'm trying to to get my kid tobe a little more like rounded
and it's in there.
In these kids it's not likethey're totally ruined.
I've found like in general,found in general, they have it
in them to like get rid of theneed to have everything cool.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But there's no way to take it completely away.
So they have to understand itbecause you know what the future
is.
Uh, yeah, all this media, uh,online on your phone.
So that is the future.
You need to know how to use aphone apps.
You need to know how to use allthat shit.
You can't fucking take themaway and say, hey, you can't use
it, don't learn it, don'tunderstand it.
(26:01):
Then you're like Tony, he mailsyou your fucking computer
because he doesn't know how tofucking send you an email yeah,
but I'm yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, you're not.
You're not wrong about that.
Like I don't want to learn moreshit you should.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Technology wise, I really don't I?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I've basically crafted a pretty solid for the
most part 80 analog life and andI'm towards like where where's
the red, white and blue cord?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
keeping electrical tape over your cameras does not
constitute an analog life, tony.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I said, I said about 80, everything I try to do,
almost everything hands-on.
The only thing in my life isthis fucking phone, and a couple
times a year, as long as I, aslong as I don't need the gps on
it because I don't have a randmcnally anymore uh what?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
they ain't printing that shit anymore either, dude
you don't know what a randmcnally is.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Sounds like a sex position.
It's the oh, you did the randmcnally rand mcnally was the
most detailed city by city atlas.
You could buy so shit.
It is how you found how to geteverywhere.
You could buy one for the wholeUnited States or for your city
(27:36):
specifically.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know what my round of McNally alley is,
People that I know I'm like.
How do you get here?
They tell me that's my McNally.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So I still do keep a map in the car.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You're fucking crazy you never know, dude.
What With your blanket andsurvival kit?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
yeah, actually I mean it's a pretty solid point I
mean the maps in the glove box,because that's most logical.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
But fucking dude.
I well, okay, when I first uhgot I understood like what my
dad had to do to find a house,to get to a job, I was like no
fucking way, am I ever going todo this.
Then GPS came along.
I'm like, fuck yeah, finallyhave a chance.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And then you know, Maybe this is why the last
episode you were saying thatMadison's four hours away.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I picked no freeway, all streets.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Maybe it's because of your lack of map skills.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
No, because accidentally my phone was on no
freeway.
All side streets Least use oftolls.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That takes you to Sheboygan first.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
There's no tolls in fucking Madison.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well, thank you for joining us today and, if you
liked what you heard, dosomething on the interweb to
tell us that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
What's the word Tony always says Hit me again, hit me
again.
Well, we appreciate you guysfor listening.
This is Top Shelf Stories andthis is with Chris.
Come on, let me hear it in thebeginning.
Who is it with?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't understand what's happening right now.
He's going to say Chris, jayand Tony.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Chris Jay and Tony, or Jay Chris Tony Hit the music.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.
God damn it Is it on.
Okay, see you later.
Next time no, that's too loud.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Perfect.
You should just put yourheadphones on next time, see you
later.
Top Shelf Stories with J, chris and Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up, fellas Yo what up.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What up, dude, what up?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So, tony hey.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So Jay's such a fucking trap?
All right, I'm in the middle oftalking right now.
I'm used to that.
Jay took it real serious, tookoff his headphones, curled up in
a little ball on his couch.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not yet.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm sharing the couch with you, so my son just
celebrated a birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Congratulations.
How old is he?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He's 12.
And in the short 12 years he'sbeen on this planet, he has
gotten everything he's everwanted dude, our kids are gonna
be wrecked and and at this point, at this point, he's just we're
(01:23):
just getting him shit to gethim shit.
Now, right, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There, there's like nothing left that he wants so
that playstation 3 that you gotfor him, it was never used,
right the?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
playstation 5, the old school.
He's on it every day.
Matter of fact, it's been ayear since he's played with his
Xbox.
Why is?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
PlayStation more popular.
Why does he have both?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I have both and he's got Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, I have that too .
Yeah, keep naming it off, Iprobably have it.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Mm-hmm.
The fuck is wrong with youpeople.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I like tech, but we just got done.
You know it's like he's beenopening presents since Christmas
.
I know you're probably notlistening to this right now, but
it's the very beginning ofJanuary when we're recording
this.
He still has unopened presents.
No, actually he had to take abreak christmas because his
(02:26):
unwrapping arm got sore yeah,right, I guarantee you got all
of your, both of your kids,three presents each no, no,
those kids get a lot of shityeah, I got 18 for each one of
mine so, so this is where I'mgoing with it, right, um, my
kids, my kids, get spoiled to alevel that, um, you know, it's
(02:53):
like the thing you always wantto give your kids better than
you had sure, and I get that.
Here's the thing.
My my wife grew up really poorand she thought she grew up
really poor until she heardabout how poor I grew up.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, first off, you're there for them.
That is a present all in itselfthat you have not experienced.
So you're already ahead of theball.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But the game but we live in a super disposable world
where, where you know things,things are made super poorly and
they're made really affordableand it's not that big of a deal
to just get your kids somethinganymore um well, you didn't
(03:35):
think of like the cost of avideo game.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The video games are still like 60 bucks, right they?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
were 60 bucks in the 90s I know it's kind of mario
brothers.
It's kind of like a used car.
If you buy it right, when itcomes out it's 60.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You wait two weeks, it's 50 sure but like, yeah, but
things are kind of cheaper inthe entertainment sector.
The, the tech sec, yeah forreal.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So we got to talking about about some stuff from my
childhood and I.
I never really had a lot andlike of anything tony's like.
Remember, when we order pizza, Ihave to eat that for five days,
so so we, we were talking aboutsomething and we weren't even
(04:24):
on the subject of these gifts oranything like that.
But my son started talkingabout NBA logos yesterday, okay,
and he was looking through andhe wanted me to pick out my
favorite three.
And I'm looking through themand I'm like, oh man, I'm like
some of these are so differentthan what I remember from back
(04:45):
in the day.
And he pulled up this retrolist of NBA logos.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The game's not only got the logos of today, it's got
the logos through history.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Aren't they kind of the same throughout?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Sort of, but not.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Some of them are.
Some of them are wildlydifferent, but one that remains
semi-unchanged Bucks the BullsIs the Bulls the Spurs Charlotte
.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Hornets.
They're not even a team anymore, though.
Well, I'm saying like they'relike bobcats or wizards.
Now Something, something.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
There's no Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They're in a different state, but I'm saying
when you go through all the oldlogos when you go through all
the old logos, it says like thislogo.
From this time to this time,this logo, like the Bucs, have
like nine different logos andsome of them even more than that
, and through all these lists,like throughout the history of
(05:43):
the Charlotte Hornets, it wasalways the same logo not called
charlotte hornets, I'm saying onthis retro list okay, sorry,
this logo throughout this amountof time.
so I seen that old logo and Iwas like, oh shit, and it made
me.
It made me remember aboutsaving my money for such a long
(06:05):
time For everything, to buy aCharlotte Hornets starter
pullover jacket.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Everybody wanted that , oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
God Dude, I had a Michigan Wolverines one.
People were getting shot.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
My brother got beat up for one.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think it was a Charlotte Hornet one.
I want to tell you, though, theCharlotte Hornet one was for
girls.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
My brother had that one too, though I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, it was for girls.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I mean.
I'm okay if you're calling me abitch, but don't you fucking
talk about Dan like that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hey, tony, explain the pullover.
It was like half zip down, soso it zipped down.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It zipped down to basically the bottom of your rib
cage.
I had the whole front of it wasa kangaroo pouch so I had not a
starter.
Oh whoa I'm still, stillexplaining.
It was made out of superterrible polyester polypropylene
tarp material.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It had like a, like a tent like feel to it like, yeah
, like sort of rain, repellentbut not quite very it was made
very poor quality paintedzippers.
It was made of of used tentsfrom campgrounds all around the
usa I'm confident that ourparents told us to not chew on
(07:31):
our zippers when we were little,not for our teeth but for
preparation for preparation ofthese coats zippers and, at the
time, I remember that too,that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, we're talking early 90s.
Oh yeah, they were so expensive, oh yeah I don't remember how
much they were.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They were like 69.95.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, they were more than that they were.
They were over a hundreddollars.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So do you remember?
So that was starter jacketsright starter starter starter if
it wasn't starter so you gotthe finisher no, there was a
brand called logo athletic.
It was an la.
It was the same fucking coat,except for on the zipper thing
instead of a starter s and astar.
(08:20):
Yeah, you're fucked.
It was an l and an a?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I've never seen those , ever you don don't know Logo
Athletic no.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So I had a Buffalo Bills one, because it was blue
and red and white, like America.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And it had a little button.
You pressed on it that everytime you press this it puts the
lotion on the skin.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, it was a Buffalo Bills, wasn't that his?
Name the football team no, thatwas Hann Buffalo Bills, wasn't
that his name?
The football team?
No, that was Hannibal.
Lecter, tony doesn't even knowthe Buffalo Bills are so I never
got the foo-foo baby powderblue like the color of my car,
one like that yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It was a pretty color pretty.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But but here's the thing in in 1993 you weren't
shit if you didn't have astarter pole.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I wasn't shit then, dude well, you also needed to
get the start or the nike airshoes maybe it was a starter,
maybe, it was a start, it is astarter.
You had it had to say start hadlogo athletic though you could
have nike, but if you didn'thave the nike starter, just like
a nike air, you're not the shitso.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So I had several paper routes growing up, because
if I had to rely on my familyto buy me designer things I
would still be waiting.
So I had all these paper routes.
Me and my buddy split about adozen of them.
We were delivering paperssomewhere along the lines of 90
to 100 hours a week.
Was it the news like the actualnewspaper, the Milwaukee
(09:54):
Journal Sentinel?
Okay, or actually it was theMilwaukee Journal yeah, 90 to
100 hours a week.
Was it the news like the actualnewspaper, the milwaukee
journal sentinel, or?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
actually it was the milwaukee journal.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and then we also had the weekend sentinel
route because we weren't allowedto do the week does the
sentinel routes because theywere mornings does the weekend
pay more or the week pay more?
Weekend by a lot really, yeah,dude, we had to go steal
shopping carts just to get themover to our route and we had
(10:21):
shopping carts parked at the endof blocks and we used to have
to.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You used to have to go down to the big warehouse and
pick up your papers to deliverto you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
they didn't take them to the neighbors I don't know
what they do now and all thelosers would have one route and
they would be able to carry themto their route.
But you know, we were pickingup pallets worth of newspapers
every week, so we were stealingshopping carts.
But I just I saved up foreverto get this fucking jacket and
(10:51):
it was such a big deal to me andI was so excited to finally be
like, have have, like the coolthing, and I swear to god, that
thing got stolen within two days, did you get?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
beat up and raped.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No only got, raped, only got beat up once and only
got raped once and they weren'trelated you sat down at a george
webb, put it on the peg andsomeone took it off the peg no,
we were, uh, we were playingbasketball in my friend's
driveway.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Um and I use that term loosely it wasn't like a
normal driveway, you, youimagine in a cul-de-sac.
It was like he had a littleconcrete pad behind his house
and his house was positioned onthe street very awkwardly and
his dad ran a business out oftheir garage.
So they poured this bigconcrete pad and we had a
(11:47):
basketball hoop that you couldactually actually now, I think
about.
It was bolted to his porchupstairs and, uh, we would play
in this little concrete pad andthere were just a couple kids
playing with us and one of themgrabbed my coat and took off and
I didn't realize he did it andit was gone and I never seen it
(12:09):
again.
And, uh, and I'm telling my kidabout this and he's like, why
don't?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
you go buy another one, he goes he goes well.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Which one did you get to replace it?
And I said there was noreplacing it.
I'm like I didn't have parentslike you have, where we oh you
don't have a coat.
Now we go out and get you acoat.
My mom was like tough shit, youshould have put a bike lock on
it to the railing, like that'syour fault.
(12:42):
So I had to go back to wearingmy generic winter coat.
Yeah, and uh, I was not a fan.
I was not a fan of my my kidbrought up.
Uh, he goes.
How come every time you tell mea story about about how you got
the most amazing thing growingup, like the coolest thing, and
(13:05):
the stories always end and itgets stolen.
And I said, there again, I grewup in a city, you grew up on a
cul-de-sac.
Yeah, dude, fucking everythingI've ever owned was stolen every
bike, every fucking goodbaseball card I had so on, on a
(13:26):
cul-de-sac, when there's anunfamiliar car driving down
everyone calls the authorities,get notified immediately who the
fuck is this?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
what the fuck you doing?
You cannot turn around in mycold sack.
What is that?
A 2019?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
what the fuck call the police?
It's a 2019.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
They're not from here oh my god, immediately,
immediately.
You drive into my subdivisionright now with, uh, with your
little beater ass van jay.
Uh, people, people areimmediately sharing ring videos.
Anybody know this person issomebody having uh, yeah, like
(14:10):
somebody having roofing workdone.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Do you have a roofing work, an app or something for
local?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh no, there's a group chat of 20 women.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Oh so everyone puts you in a group chat.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
No, the guys don't get in on it, my big thing when
I was a kid was my grandmotherwould get us new shoes every
year for Christmas.
She gave what New shoes.
And I could buy like almost anyshoes I wanted, except for
Jordan's, I think 75 bucks wasmy line that I was allowed to
buy.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You get the Jordan and these shoes.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jordan airs.
I would get almost for likethree or four years in a row.
I got the Reebok pumps, the lowtops.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They were the Emmett Smith pumps.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Because, again, nike was too high, too high price
those fucking things you pump,they don't even fucking inflate.
I had one that had the littlelittle basically like a
Schroeder valve, a Schroedervalve on there with a little
canister of nitrous that youthink CO2 you would put in your
(15:18):
hand.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh dude, I had this thing.
It was like the size of twolighters and it came with a
little canister, like a whippedcream canister, like the little
whipped cream canisters that.
Whippets are in, but this wasCO2, I think.
And what have you put too muchco2 in there, your fucking?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
shoe explodes.
Yes, that's exactly what wouldhappen, dude, if you put too
much in it would explode.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Back in the 90s, there was a price for every game
you played, but I remembered, Iremembered because, these
little containers were, like youknow, 89 cents or something,
and so I only had 10 or so.
So I would always be the guywho was just pumping them by
hands.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Because I didn't want to use up my fucking Sprayer.
I never knew they had a CO2cartridge for the pump.
I mean, that's a lazy person'spump.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Who else had those shoes?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I had those too.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Who was the basketball player that wore them
?
Barkley maybe?
Yeah, barkley definitely hadthose.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Do you know what I'm?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
talking about I know.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Tony, do you know what he's talking about?
The pumps Like a basketball,half basketball, in front of the
lip or the sole or whatever thefuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
On the tongue.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That's the word I was looking for, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And it pumped up the tongue to make them fit tighter
on your foot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's all they do the shoe that I would get had
these ratchet strapping linesover the ties too that you could
fucking ratchet down.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Where the fuck are you finding these shoes?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Dude, they were the shit, the Emmitt Smiths.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Dude, I had I'm looking them up I had some cream
colored Bo Bo Jackson's and Ifucking loved more than life
itself, and if I could get thoseagain I'd buy them again and
put them in a frame, or sometype of solo proof glass.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So those shoes were really popular, but I had to
change my style based on mybudget.
Yeah, this was once a year.
There was no like runningaround in jordans.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That was for my rich friends dude, the pumps weren't
that expensive I think I Ialways had the nike cortez's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What?
Are those yeah, what the fuckis that?
Um, basically cholo shoes likelike if you were in a gang and
you were hispanic.
You probably still havecortez's, so you're rolling in
the hispanic games and, uh, thecortez's were slightly coming
back.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
What was your gang name, tony?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
uh, I was never affiliated with a gang, the
chubby tacos, no, no, no, theywouldn't let me in because I
wasn't full-blooded Hispanic.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you try to get in gang?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, Never tried.
It's always like we want me tokill.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, dude, right here.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'll go kill somebody for you with the rage for my
stolen starter jacket.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
What is it, Chris?
What do you got?
What did you find?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The Reebok preseason.
Emmitt Smith pumps.
That was the shoe dude.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't remember this .
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That was the shoe.
You see that little black knob.
Is that the shoe?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
you had.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You see that little black knob right there on the
tongue that's the pump.
That was where.
No, that little black knob.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh, that's a release to air.
No, that was where you insert.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, that was where you inserted the fucking.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Oh, really oh my God.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, that was also the release, but there was like
a little valve in there dude.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That was the craziest and weirdest thing that I
thought was cool.
At the same time I didn'tunderstand it, and I think
that's the thing that soldsomething you don't understand
the Merlin Nike.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Cortez's, those look, I would buy them today.
I actually did buy a pair oflike three years ago and they're
.
They're not cheap, they're here, Like they're still $90.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
36 bucks.
That's a normal price for ashoe, 36 bucks for the red ones.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They look used but wait, are they red or the yellow
Are like they for the red ones.
They look used.
But Wait, are they red or arethey yellow?
They're white and red, butthey're actually yellow and red.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Hey, those kids that made them shoes are our age.
Now what?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
These are the shoes right here.
These are the exact pair I had,I think.
Okay, explain it, though no onecan see a fucking picture it's
a pump with a strap over the topor you could strap it down.
It had velcro.
It looks like there was a pumpwith the tongue.
It's a shoe, I don't know theylook way more complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You're the one who made us record a podcast today
okay, now listen.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Uh, my kids shoes that they like nowadays look
like fucking foreign objectsfrom an alien world.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, the shoes now are wild.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
They're ridiculously ugly.
They are abstract.
First off, they don't even makesense.
I don't think you can even puta fucking foot in them.
Literally, they have angles andfolds and things that just
don't make sense.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Those are the shoes that I bought my child yesterday
.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That actually looks normal compared to the ones I've
seen, and this shoe he'sshowing me just has a huge sole
and it's very bright andcolorful.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
See, they're fucking weird too.
Very bright and colorful.
They probably weighed like ahalf of a half a pound.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, so they're Giannis shoes.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Oh, Giannis has got really bright.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He likes the bright colored shoes and they're purple
in the back and they gradientthrough a couple different blues
and end up being turquoise atthe toe of the shoe.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So both of my kids have the Giannis shoe and one
shoe is different color,different color than the other
shoe.
Is it different color?
No, they're both the same color.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Uh, they're in a very bizarre shape for a shoe and
there's very bizarre lines thatrun through them.
I look at what kids like nowand and I just think every
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single time like I would havegot my fucking ass whooped for
wearing that shit.
Like there's no way that thekids are great above me.
Wouldn't just beat me,senseless but tony yeah, wearing
like hot pink shoes, like thesekids wear the wildest kids.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They're wearing it yeah, the kids above them are
wearing the same fucking shoesremember our pants.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They would be so wide at the bottom.
Now, these jankos now thesepants.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, they're all tight as hell, like jay's, like jay's
, jay's, fashionable I looked atjay's pants and I'm like did
you have to roll those on you?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
um.
First off, they're sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They're not actual you probably had to get them wet
so that they were a little morestretchy.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That would make it way harder to put on but hey, so
let's go back to these.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The kids now.
They get everything, righteverything.
The kids get everything.
There's nothing left to givethem I'm starting to worry that
that's a problem that's aproblem.
It's a very huge problem.
It's a very big problem and Inotice it in the actions of my
child where, like the littlestthing like the internet oh dude,
(22:34):
we've had spotty internetlately with my internet thing
it's not fucking working forsome reason.
Every once in a while it stopsand it means the TV stops, it
means the Google devices stop,that means the fucking iPad with
the YouTube on it stops, andit's like the kids don't know
what to do with themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Am I right?
10 seconds into no internet andthey're like I'm bored, I'm
bored.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Dude.
Well, the new trend that I'venoticed with kids is if you talk
about something you want topurchase, like today my kids
were talking about the squidgames show on netflix.
It's a very popular thing forevery fucking person in this
world and they will.
He, my son, my youngest son,wanted to buy all the games they
(23:24):
play in the show and my wife'slike, okay, I'll look it up on
amazon.
Just I found one for 10 bucks.
It's like no, you gotta buy itfrom tiktok tiktok shop.
What the fuck is tiktok shop?
Do you guys know?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
what?
Do you guys know what that is?
Uh, it's a place you can go andbuy super cheap, super asian
made shit.
Yeah, it's probably the samething as timo.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, yeah, but Teemu has a way better name.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's just Amazon on TikTok but like okay.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
so kids don't know Teemu, they don't know TikTok
shop, because they watch thisshit.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, it's advertising in the app.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That is fucking brilliant.
It's the app trying to keep youin the app.
These guys that do these appsunderstand and they see the age
groups that kids are like, theyknow their understand and they
see the age groups that kidslike, they know their
demographic and they sell totheir my kids.
Everything they want is onTikTok shop Make your kids trade
.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Fuck the TikTok shop.
Make your kids trade phones.
They're completely differentage groups.
They'll go on YouTube on theirbrother's phone and they'll be
like what the fuck is this?
You should try it.
I wonder how much they wouldn'teven be.
They're not even that far apart.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
They even use the right ages, so I don't
understand how they can actuallyall your kids, according to the
app, are in their mid-30s the.
The app knows, it knows how,because it's that simple
although my my youngest kid didDid just get kicked off From
TikTok Like they deleted hisentire TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh yeah, you can only search Titties so many times,
you should.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I don't know, man, they know that, even though
you signed on as an adult forhim.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I didn't do that.
He did it himself, chris.
You think I'm that gonna?
I didn't do that, he did ithimself.
Chris.
You think I would?
I'm that irresponsible?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
okay, don't answer that but yeah, I don't know man,
I'm trying to to get my kid tobe a little more like rounded
and it's in there.
In these kids it's not likethey're totally ruined.
I've found like in general,found in general, they have it
in them to like get rid of theneed to have everything cool.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But there's no way to take it completely away.
So they have to understand itbecause you know what the future
is.
Uh, yeah, all this media, uh,online on your phone.
So that is the future.
You need to know how to use aphone apps.
You need to know how to use allthat shit.
You can't fucking take themaway and say, hey, you can't use
it, don't learn it, don'tunderstand it.
(26:01):
Then you're like Tony, he mailsyou your fucking computer
because he doesn't know how tofucking send you an email yeah,
but I'm yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, you're not.
You're not wrong about that.
Like I don't want to learn moreshit you should.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Technology wise, I really don't I?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I've basically crafted a pretty solid for the
most part 80 analog life and andI'm towards like where where's
the red, white and blue cord?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
keeping electrical tape over your cameras does not
constitute an analog life, tony.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I said, I said about 80, everything I try to do,
almost everything hands-on.
The only thing in my life isthis fucking phone, and a couple
times a year, as long as I, aslong as I don't need the gps on
it because I don't have a randmcnally anymore uh what?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
they ain't printing that shit anymore either, dude
you don't know what a randmcnally is.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Sounds like a sex position.
It's the oh, you did the randmcnally rand mcnally was the
most detailed city by city atlas.
You could buy so shit.
It is how you found how to geteverywhere.
You could buy one for the wholeUnited States or for your city
(27:36):
specifically.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know what my round of McNally alley is,
People that I know I'm like.
How do you get here?
They tell me that's my McNally.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So I still do keep a map in the car.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You're fucking crazy you never know, dude.
What With your blanket andsurvival kit?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
yeah, actually I mean it's a pretty solid point I
mean the maps in the glove box,because that's most logical.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
But fucking dude.
I well, okay, when I first uhgot I understood like what my
dad had to do to find a house,to get to a job, I was like no
fucking way, am I ever going todo this.
Then GPS came along.
I'm like, fuck yeah, finallyhave a chance.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And then you know, Maybe this is why the last
episode you were saying thatMadison's four hours away.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I picked no freeway, all streets.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Maybe it's because of your lack of map skills.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
No, because accidentally my phone was on no
freeway.
All side streets Least use oftolls.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That takes you to Sheboygan first.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
There's no tolls in fucking Madison.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well, thank you for joining us today and, if you
liked what you heard, dosomething on the interweb to
tell us that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
What's the word Tony always says Hit me again, hit me
again.
Well, we appreciate you guysfor listening.
This is Top Shelf Stories andthis is with Chris.
Come on, let me hear it in thebeginning.
Who is it with?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't understand what's happening right now.
He's going to say Chris, jayand Tony.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Chris Jay and Tony, or Jay Chris Tony Hit the music.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.
God damn it Is it on.
Okay, see you later.
Next time no, that's too loud.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Perfect.
You should just put yourheadphones on next time, see you
later.
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