February 11, 2025 • 50 mins
The latest episode centers on the challenges of parenting in a digital and trend-driven world, exploring themes of peer pressure, self-image, and accountability. Listeners will gain insights into navigating the complexities of raising children who are often influenced by social media and their peers while highlighting the importance of allowing them to make their own mistakes.
• Discussion about the impact of peer influence on children's self-esteem
• Exploration of instant gratification and its effects on children's commitment
• Examination of parent-child dynamics in the context of modern social trends
• Importance of accountability and responsibility in child-rearing
• Encouragement to allow children to explore self-expression through personal choices
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Thank you everybody for tuning in to this week's Top
Shelf Story, and today I wantto talk about how fucked up this
generation of children are.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, I'm raising one of them.
I can't wait to hear about it,tony.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So my kid's, at an age where everything needs to be
cool, it needs to have theright riz.
You know what I'm saying.
You're right, I do, and it'sreally fucking annoying Riz Raz,
because what's cool one day andI don't know if this is an all
(01:10):
kids thing or if this is a mykid thing, so you guys might
have to help me out on this butmy kid, if somebody says
something to him, we're going touse this prime example that's
going through my house right now.
That started several years ago.
So I used to my kid used tohave a nice high and tight fade
(01:35):
haircut, just like yours no, no,like I mean no, like you can do
.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You took him to a cheaper barber.
No, I'm his barber.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But, he had it very, very tight on top.
He liked it.
He liked it where it was likeprickly when he ran his hand on
it on the top and like skin fadeon the side.
That's how he liked it.
That's how he always liked it.
Maybe that's how you like tocut.
I liked it on him.
And then one day and this islike three years ago, probably
(02:13):
two years ago, uh, his friend atschool called him buzz cut.
That's all he said.
He called him buzz cut one timeand instead of my kid going
back and tell like I tell him todo when somebody talks shit to
him, tell him to suck your dickhe didn't do it he came home and
(02:34):
told me that he is now decidedto grow his hair out starting
that day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yep, wait.
Instead of saying suck my dick,it is growing my hair out it's
probably a better choiceactually yeah, I think it would
be.
Tony.
You're in a rich place, you'regoing to get expelled for
something like that no, you'renot going to get expelled, you
don't think anyone says swearsin your school.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You tell some spoiled little asshole to eat your ass
and the problem's solved.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know what I'm saying fuck what happened is
sucking a dick that looks tosound a little better.
Eating ass is going a littletoo far.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It depends on the severity of the situation.
But and my kids too afraid tosay it to anybody too I tell
them all the time I don't thinkI've ever said to anyone.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I'm on your kid's side on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, I get what you're trying to say, though,
that's okay.
More than one person can bewrong, that's fine, right?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
you ever tell anyone to suck your dick, though?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
yes, I married her nice, so noise, tony.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So my kid has now grown his hair out.
Uh, it's basically the.
Can I talk to your manager?
Cut it's down to his chin erinit's down to his chin gotta be
kidding me.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It also looks good on him, hire this picture while
you explain this you need to seea picture as you're explaining.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, you need to hire this kid that called him
buzzcut, to call him a littlesissy fairy with his long ass
bitch hair remember that old assword fairy, you fairy yeah you,
fairy fucking fairy dude,that's so old school dude.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I like it that's the way it is too man.
So now this kid called him Ithink it was a different kid
that called it too Said that hishaircut looks emo.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I've heard that before my kids.
I had a kid on my soccer teamthat had long hair on one side,
shaved and whatever, and my kidsare like that's, that's emo kid
.
Yeah, what's with the emo talk?
I don't know.
He look, is it?
(04:55):
Is it all long or is it shorton the sides?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
because it looks all long no, it was short on the
sides, and then he wanted tostart growing it out on the
sides.
That's not so bad.
I mean, he probably does thatgay-ass Bieber thing all fucking
day.
But that's what he wants and Idon't like there's plenty of
(05:22):
shit I need to control about mykid?
Yeah, he'll learn but hishaircut is not one of them be
fucking happy if he wants to dowhatever he wants with his hair
dude, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Sure, just as long as it fits in with what I tell him
he needs to do what if he askedyou I don't know if that makes
sense what if he wanted to dyeit a different color?
No, that's a hard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No, really grow it however he wants, but he wow
tony's wow not a fucking chance.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's what the line is drawn, and a colored hair,
yeah what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
why?
So I'm gonna tell you.
So I will not approve coloredhair, but I will approve what is
so wrong with colored hair?
So he doesn't want to cut hishair, but he doesn't want to
keep growing it and he wants hiskid to quit calling him emo.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
So that would be a lot more emo to color it, does
he?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
realize there's always going to be another name
if he keeps letting that matter.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is what I'm telling him.
So now, kids are fucking dicks.
So now he's like well,basketball season's starting and
I don't want to cut my hairshort, but I don't want it in my
face.
Just get a band.
He wants full fucking braidsfull braids they're gonna start
(06:44):
calling him Sandy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If he braids that shit, I can learn real quick,
you probably could.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, I think you could learn, do not.
What's worse braids or coloredhair.
Braids or colored hair what's?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
worse Fuck that Braids on a white kid.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So he wants braids old dude, there's like three
other white kids out of schoolthat have braids.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, they're probably black no, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There's no black people at his school you're
gonna have to start calling themjayden or something that's my,
that's my you offered up thatinformation to the general
public.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So he wants braids and I'm going, okay, whatever.
So I find somebody that's goingto braid his hair and my
apprentice also had braids andhe came over the other day and
he was like, oh, chase, I hearyou want braids.
(07:44):
And he's like, yeah, I, youwant braids.
And he's like, yeah, I thinkI'm gonna get them.
And he goes have you ever hadyour hair braided before?
And he's like, no, why doesn't?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
it fucking he goes.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm just letting you know now hurts, he goes.
It is excruciatingly painfuland, uh, he goes.
Maybe after like six or seventimes.
You start getting used tohaving your hair braided.
It's not so bad, but the firsttime he's like it is the most
miserable thing you will ever gothrough in your life because
(08:13):
basically, you have to get it sotight that it's almost ripped
out of your head, otherwise itwill not.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It will not work.
Yeah right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, so I understand of it so I say
something to him.
I'm like you, you know you wantto get cornrows, that's what
you got to deal with.
And uh, he goes.
Oh, I don't want cornrows.
I'm like, what the fuck do youwant?
He goes, goes.
I want box braids His hair'snot long enough.
(08:44):
He wants fucking coolio braids.
I'm like what the fuck is wrongwith this kid.
And it's all because one personsaid he looks emo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't think that's it.
He saw something somewhere on aTikTok, on a Facebook ad,
whatever it was, and he's likedude.
That kid's hair is slick.
Can we represent that?
How do I do it?
What's that called?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, all he watches is the NBA.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
so I'm sure Okay, there you go.
I mean, there's like 16 guys oneach team that have fucking
cool braids.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, dude, he does not need that, he does not.
Well, you know what?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You cannot dude, he does not need that, he does not.
Well, you know what you cannot.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He's just gonna stop him from doing that you're gonna
cause, I'm gonna let him do it,and then immediately somebody's
gonna talk shit to him oh yeah,he's gonna be like he's gonna
be like dad.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We need to get these out of my hair tonight they're
like he's gonna come to schooland someone's gonna be like uh,
I thought coolio died man dude.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Nobody at his school knows who the fuck coolio is uh,
you never know, it's tiktok ageuh did I ever tell you when we
were at a restaurant, michellewas looking at her phone and it
was me, her and chase.
And she looks at her phone, shegoes, she goes.
Oh shit, coolio died and chasestarted fucking crying and he's
(10:13):
like why did we know him?
He's feeling you have thatreally sensitive child she
thought he thought somebodyclose to us died who was named
Cleo.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Auntie Coolio.
Is that the woman we used to goover and get spaghetti dinner
after church?
Auntie Coolio?
No, no, that was.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Aunt Jackie.
No, this is a rapper from 1989who really got famous in 93.
How did he die again?
I don't know.
I'm assuming heart disease.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
By the fucking braids he had on his head.
Pulled his fucking skin andface apart.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Tell your son this is what happens when you get
braids you die like Coolio.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, but it didn't help that my apprentice was over
and he's like Wait he was overthat day.
He was over.
A couple apprentice was overand he's like wait, he was over
that day, he was over a coupledays ago.
And he's like yeah, I'm growingmy hair back out so I can get
braids oh my god, god damn him.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He always says the worst thing at the worst time he
is the worst sometimes.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I hope he doesn't listen to the show.
I doubt it.
He's too young.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
He doesn't listen to podcasts so what else about this
generation?
Yeah, I don't think that was avery good example.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Your own kids, I'm just saying it's a thing like
they they always have to havethe fucking coolest thing like.
Like he made us run out and gethim Jordans and for some reason
he wore them to school for acouple days and then he was like
I don't like them anymore andI'm like who said something?
And he's like nobody.
(11:58):
Just I think I want this nowand it's just the race to try to
be like.
I don't know if they're tryingto be like everybody else, but
like I see all these fuckingkids wearing like hopping shoes
and shit no, it's, it's it.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There's a huge influence and it's definitely,
uh, the it's the expand of reels, short videos of people doing
dumb things or expressing theway they are in life, and my
kids are all day long watchingand listening to videos.
It's fascinating.
(12:34):
Right, swipe, they'll watchsomething for a second or two
seconds.
Swipe, it's swiped and you sitnext to them and you're like,
god damn it, don't swipe at thatone.
I want to know what happened.
Like they will literally swipethrough 15, 20, 50 fucking
things before they watch onething for more than 10 seconds
and then, when that 10 secondsgoes, that's where they really
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expand on how they like, reallywant to like, express themselves
, and usually it's alwaysnegative or dumb, really dumb.
It's always people that have noidea what's going on.
It's 20 year olds, 30 year olds, maybe not 30 year olds, 20
year olds that are, uh, fuckingmommy boys and nothing to do in
(13:22):
life than just the jake pauls,yeah exactly jake paul 10 years
ago.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Exactly, not jake paul now did you guys?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
you see a video where they showed jake paul when he
was 15 dancing mike tyson whenhe was 15.
Jake paul is doing like fuckingyeah, dancing in the bathroom
fucking twerking his ass andmike tyson's kicking the fuck
out of someone.
But now Mike Tyson fought JakePaul at 58.
Now Mike Tyson looks like thefucking fool because he just
(13:53):
wanted, basically he wanted.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, he doesn't look like a fool man he was at one
point.
He's got fucking tigers to feedbro.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He was at one point.
He walked away from the camera,kissed the one point.
He walked away from the camera,kissed the guy.
Oh, kiss the guy first walkedaway from the camera, showed his
ass.
You knew right away.
This is all fucking show, yeahyou know how much everybody
watched it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know how much meat tigers eat a day.
I watched tiger king.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I know, dude, you gotta kill horses on the daily
yeah, that shit ain't cheap man.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Mike tyson needed 20 million dollars, and I'm gonna
tell you this right now I don'tgive a fuck who you are there.
I mean, there really isn'tanything I wouldn't do for 20
million dollars, million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think I could find something you wouldn't do you
could get me to do anything,chris, we can.
Let's find something tony goingto do for 20 million dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't know this guy's a lot of money, but yeah,
I don't want to go down thatpath.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Listen to me, if you gave me 20 million dollars every
generation, wait what?
Every generation of my familywould be taken care of that's
not enough.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That is not enough money.
No, I would take that 20million dollars, you're gonna
invest.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I would keep a million of it.
I would put 19 straight in apark.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Okay, then stop now.
When you said 20 million, stopthere, because it's not 20
million anymore.
It's what you had done with the20 million, right so it's not
20 million you cannot take.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
20 million is a kickstart to generational wealth
.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Agreed agreed, unless you're buying, unless you spend
it on dumb shit yeah, dude,because someone is like okay,
someone who has 300 now goes tocasino, try to get rich rather
than buying fucking apple stockright or whatever right in this
case, bitcoin's probably thebetter example and they go to
the $300 now goes to casino totry to get rich rather than
buying fucking Apple stock rightor whatever right.
In this case, Bitcoin isprobably the better example, and
they go to the casino with it.
So why do you think that you'regoing to do any different when
(15:53):
you have a bunch of zeros behindthat $200?
Do you know how long it wouldtake me?
You're just going to lose thesame amount.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you know how long it would take me to go to the
casino?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
with $200 at a crack and blow through $20 million.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You won't go to 200 bucks at a crack, dude.
You won't.
No, I would literally-.
You're not going to take Jeevesand the $30,000 a year you pay
him to drive into your $80,000limousine down to the casino to
play 200 bucks dude, you'regoing to play $25,000 when you
go down there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's going to be your new zero?
Not at all.
Yes, I'm at a very differentlevel financially than I was 20
years ago.
Yeah, but okay, if you like, asit sits right now, and like I'm
not saying like, um, I wouldcall myself middle class if
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there ever was one.
Okay, like I am not wealthy atall, but when I was young I was
fucking poor.
I, I still live my life very,very, very similar.
I'm not, I'm not doing shitlike excessively, because now I
have the ability to make acouple thousand dollars a week
(17:09):
instead of 140 a week when I wasyoung.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't know, bro, when was the last time you had
to hit your starter with ahammer?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
yeah, we got a lot of dead you know what I'm saying
we got a lot of dead animals onthe wall too.
Something's going on here.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
When last time you had to rent a.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That deer cost me a bullet, bro, and I'm gonna tell
you this oh shit, it cost you abullet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It cost you a fucking thousand dollars, a thousand
dollars to make it look that way.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Nah, to get that mounted, that was 300 bucks.
That was 275.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Why is it too so?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
you said $20 million.
$20 million, you're staying inyour house.
I would keep a million of it,yeah, Well.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't know You're moving into my house.
I don't know Moving to my houseI wouldn't buy it With your
current fucking fancy middleclass money and move into my
house and you would have nearlya quarter million, probably half
a million dollars, right.
I'd be like one fortieth of theway.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I very I actually very much so considered selling
my house and moving to WestAllis.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, dude, welcome to the party.
Come on down, we live why?
And moving to West Allis?
Yeah, dude, welcome to theparty.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Come on down, we live .
Why?
So that that money can beinvested in something else for?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
my future.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Because my house.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You think West Allis is going to?
It's an investment, I know.
But a house, a house in WestAllis, I don't think it's going
to appreciate as much assomething in new berlin, or I
don't know uh fucking where youlive.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
No, I'm saying taking what, what my house has gained
in value since I've been in Iunderstand what you're saying
moving into something much, muchcheaper I understand so I could
free that money up actually thebest time would to be would be
right now to do it because Iconsider selling my house and
moving my whole family with mymom just to save up for a while
into the storage room you have.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh wait, you know you have like six rooms here in the
fucking uh, just living at theshop we're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I checked my lease says oh, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
they got heat.
You got a fucking fridge whatelse you need you can deliver
here.
Wow, you're done.
There's four bathrooms.
It takes a little bit for themto find it, but hey, yeah,
there's four fucking bathroomshere.
Jesus Christ, I shit in one.
I forget what one I shot in.
Yeah, jason, that one, gordon,the other one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
The kids nowadays are a product of the parents that
are around.
True that Chris and I interactwith a lot of humans throughout
my day, as much as I can, goingto places here and there and the
humans and I'll suck it's notjust the kids, bro.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, it really is the like.
There's shitty people.
There's just shitty people.
Okay, I don't know with thewoke people nowadays, how is
life going to be in 10, 15, 20?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
years.
I think the wokeness is kind oftaking a back seat in society.
It is now, I think, people arerealizing the stuff that they
were standing up for was absurd.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What's the thing that we need to really focus on here
is the lack of ability.
Really focus on here is thelack of ability, the lack of
people's ability to takeaccountability for what the fuck
they got going on.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I couldn't even say that again if you asked me, to
people like it do not takeaccountability for their own
shit ever my whole life'snothing but accountability.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The old thirty thousand dollar curtains,
everything's in my mama's nametype shit, where you can have
all these fancy shit, but you'restill getting food stamps and
rent assistance and whateverprograms or something like I
don't know.
I can't think of any goodexamples, but it's the people.
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What it is, though, is thatpeople don't realize that if you
don't take accountability forthe shitty shit, then when
something good happens to you,you can't accept that shit
either.
So when you accept and takeaccountability for the bad shit
that happens in life, you cansay yeah.
When something good happens,you say yeah, I did that and
feel confident that you fuckingdid it and that's what the world
(21:28):
needs more of.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Agreed, that was my, my soapbox I mean, I know
someone that's not the kids.
I know someone that's homeless,living with with me right now,
with me right now.
That's that's getting 400dollars in food stamps a month.
Well, whatever, I mean you'rethat's that right.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
This individual probably can't work very well
right now, but it was probablydecisions they made earlier in
their life that may have causeda faster trip to where there's
accountability, yes, so where'sthe accountability happening
there then?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
there's not.
That's the problem.
So how can you, how can youaccount for that?
Who's going to account for that?
I mean, how do you?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I personally, I am raising a child to be
accountable.
I was raised, you gotta, wegotta win, we gotta win the
accountability people gotta win.
I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, I get it.
Uh, you have to be.
If your actions you fuck up,take your fuck up to the heart
and fucking move on, becausepeople have such a hard time
accepting a win.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Sometimes they're like I don't deserve this, like
when something good happens tothem, like I don't deserve this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Nobody says that.
Oh yeah, I don't understandthat not at all.
I would say more everybody'slike when they don't win,
they're like I should have wonyeah.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I would say that too, and I would say the exact same
thing if you feel like there'ssomething wrong because I did
not win, like all all fuckingaround the side.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I am brutally honest with my children and we're gonna
take his last basketball seasonseason into account here.
They fucking sucked.
Everybody beat them.
Were you still the coach?
I was not the coach.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was the assistant to the coach.
What was your ending win-loss?
How many games did they win One?
How many games did they win one?
How many?
How many games did they lose?
Uh, nine.
Okay, so that's not that manygames, though they.
They lost.
The fucking bucks are.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Basically, they could be nine and oh oh, you think
the team is still meldingtogether and didn't have their
shot after nine, ten games Iagree, no, no.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think there is a chance where someone can develop
in a team where it can just allof a sudden turn around.
They can start winning likeevery fucking game.
Yes, but here's the thingthat's not enough to understand
a team when you have nine gamesright, but what I'm saying is is
he's like why are we losing?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
like he didn't understand why they like they
were all bummed out when theylost and it's like well, you
didn't play good, the other teampracticed harder, not true,
that's not true.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You play.
You play together as a team.
They weren't playing togetheras a team.
They finally were okay becauselet me ask you this when was
that one win?
It was probably towards the end.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
No, it's like the second game well, you know what?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
that just fucks all the shit I was just trying to
prove to you about.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But I'm like, well, I'm like the other teams
practice more, they play bettertogether.
I'm like nobody on my kid'steam is worse than any other
individual kid on any of theother teams.
Like every team.
How do you know that?
Really, though, like every teamhas like one kid that is like
(24:55):
substantially better than therest like shooters like like you
got some good shit.
Yeah, there's like, there'slike one yannis on every team
and all this is not a shooter.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
All the rest of them are ball champs.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know like they're , they're all just good, they're
fine, but they can't playtogether as a team.
And I have no problem tellingmy child that, like you failed
because your team didn'tpractice enough together.
You guys didn't work hard, youdidn't practice outside of your
(25:26):
practices for the with the coachyeah, you gotta practice
yourself like like there's a lotof reasons why you guys are
losing these games right, andinstead of you, I know for a
fact, other parents are justlike oh, it wasn't your day, oh,
they, they just played bettertoday, like sugar-coated, why
(25:48):
they lost.
And I'm just like look, youknow, you fucking lost.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know that reminds me of one of the episodes on um
practical jokers, where one ofthe um the penalties or whatever
they do at the end oh, when joehad the not joe not joe um,
whatever his name was had totalk shit to his daughter about
being shitty at baseball andlike it ain't your sport.
(26:13):
You can just be a home mom,You'll be okay with that.
You can't play sports, Just youknow, take yeah, like, like
shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, I know you have to be like that.
The one I think about withImpractical Jokers is when Joe
or maybe it was Q, I don't knowone of them, it was Q, one of
the four, the baseball Was itbaseball?
No, he had to go to like anindoor play gym for kids oh,
that was Q and say shit to theparents.
Yeah, that was Q.
(26:42):
He's like oh, it's kind of hardto watch your kid when your
face is buried in your phone.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You know, I don't know, man, I feel like you have
to be honest with your kid.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like yeah, the way, the way this generation is like
on the computer and fuckingbreezing through shit on youtube
and all that shit, likeeverything's instant
gratification for them and ittook away all their like hey,
look, man, you want to be goodat playing the fucking trumpet.
We gotta work well that shitdoesn't happen the first time
(27:15):
you pick the trumpet up.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Like there's a lot that goesinto that.
Like you want to be good at thetrumpet, you're gonna have to
fucking practice serious.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
We're getting fucking serious right now.
I'm fucking seriously agreeingwith you.
That is true.
Everything's instantgratification, yeah, and my kids
do that with their pads, theiripads, their fucking phones.
And no, it's no more likeworking weeks and weeks on end
to finally be able to dosomething like play an
(27:48):
instrument, and you're like,just yeah like, for instance, me
.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Me and my kid used to draw together all the time and
sometimes you just have anatural drawing ability, though
right, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I drew the spider straight just off the top of my
head.
This is either a fruit stand ora garbage.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, I like it.
You know right away.
I thought I drew the spider.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But we were drawing together for me to teach him a
lesson that we're going to sitdown for 10 times and draw over
the next month and that wholetime I'm going to work on the
same drawing, like I'm going tokeep adding to it and adding to
it and adding, because you knowit's like okay, let's both draw
(28:34):
an elephant today.
And I'm drawing a superdetailed and sharpening my
pencils different and rubbingthem down to get them to be not
so sharp and adding details andmaking it look like a real life
elephant.
And he draws the outline of anelephant, colors it gray, real
quick.
And he's like all right, whatdo we draw next?
And I'm like, no, it doesn'twork like that.
(28:56):
You want to make something good.
It takes time and effort.
Like everything is not fuckingtwo seconds, I'm the best at it.
Move on Right.
I don't know, man, lack ofspecialization, everyone can be
the same, the whole mentality,it all contributes teaching,
(29:18):
teaching them to focus onanything when, when everything
in their life electronically isin three fucking second clips,
is impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know what's crazy too is like a very simple thing
to that.
Your point you're just sayingis like my kid will play FIFA.
He plays the FIFA like everydaysoccer on the Xbox and like he
always plays it on like you playagainst the computer and he
always plays it on easy.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And he wins like 63 to two.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, it's always like I mean, like how many?
How do you score 60 pointsplaying a soccer game?
And I'm like, can you try alittle bit harder?
Just put it up to expert or putit up to novice or whatever.
So when I play with them, weput up the highest fucking level
ever or the highest level theyhave, and we barely win.
(30:13):
Every time and we played theworst fucking team we can find
because I know that we pickedthe better team that would play
we get our asses kicked.
And every time he plays byhimself, he plays against like
the.
He puts it on the easy, easyact like easy mode yeah, and
he's like dad.
Look what I just did dad, lookwhat I just did.
(30:35):
Look at like he's screamingyeah, and then he can rub three
players with hat tricks yeah,and every player on the other
team gets red cards.
So he's basically playingagainst six people when he's got
11.
So, yeah, no it's.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
He's playing Eastern Kentucky freshman team.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And we go back to exactly the same thing you're
talking about.
It's instant gratification.
Why is he playing like that?
Because if he plays at a harderlevel, he knows it's going to
take effort.
He knows he probably can't win.
Yeah, he might not win harderlevel.
He knows it's going to takeeffort and he knows he probably
can't, he might not win and heprobably won't win and he
doesn't want to not win, so heplays at the and it's just like
(31:16):
that's the day and age it iswith, fucking well hopefully
your kid can find a haircut, aset of shoes that he enjoys,
that his friends don't thepeople he thinks his friends
don't, he can't the people hethinks his friends don't pick on
him for he can't.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So one last thing, going back to what jay was
talking about when you playagainst your kids in anything,
do you let them win?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I've never lost.
I'm the best.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
four in a row or what is that cross?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
what is it called the ?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
well, you dropped it.
No, you dropped the fucking.
That too.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Connect, connect for tetris, I've never lost in
tetris ever in my life yeah,according to my kid Chess
checkers, you play chess withyour Super Mario Kart.
You play chess with her.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, she knows how to play chess.
She likes it.
Yeah, she thought she wasreally good until she met her
dad.
It doesn't matter how she'slike.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Dad, can I teach you how to play?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Show me how this thing works.
She knows.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Womp, womp, kings G2 to G4.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Boom, banana peeling her ass every chance you get.
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
All that matters is she knows how to play chess.
That's hard enough.
She's only eight, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, that's, she just picked up skateboarding,
jay.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Oh, I'll teach her to skateboard.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Let's skateboard.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
for like 20 years you teach my kid to skateboard I
might consider teaching your kidhow to ride a bike, which the
17 year old or the either onethat needs to know what are you
saying, tony, no, I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm assuming, with your soft parenting, that you do
let your kids win.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh, yeah, I was gonna .
I was trying not to answer thatquestion.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Uh, yeah, I do I mean , my kid does win some games,
but not the ones that are likeones that I'm good at or I'll
kind of like I'll kind of likemake them a little hard at first
, but you know, I'll let them alittle win.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I just I, yeah, I'm a pleaser contributing to their
gratification yes, yeah, you'reright, that's bad.
We just had the wholediscussion about this.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Kids can't win kids can't win, dude, they have to
always be wrong.
You have to always be teaching.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I just don't want to listen to them scream and run,
scream, run around the house andthrow and shit.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I think that happened a couple times and then that
stopped.
Yeah, yeah, you just say, don'tdo that anymore on the house
and throwing shit.
I think that happened a coupletimes.
That's easy to put a stop to,yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, just say, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
All right, it would be funny, because that was one
of the other things I was goingto say is I was going to say it
kind of as an asshole thing islike make being able to yell at
other people's kids great again.
Like I remember when I was akid, like it was okay that my
dad was yelling at some otherkid who was in the aisle, like
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screaming, like a little tempertantrum, shit, and he'd be like
you do that.
No, you get the hell off theground, like you're making this
distraught, you're making thisterrible for me, and then the
other dad would be like see,timmy, you're a piece of shit
and other people are noticingtoo get off the ground and then,
like timmy would know, like,not only is my dad not like this
, other dads in society don'tlike this, but now you can't
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tell another kid like, hey, kid,get out of the way, stop riding
a cart, like that, that's notwhat it's for, because the
parent will be like let my kiddo what he wants to do.
Who are you to tell my kid whatto do?
And you want to be like I'mtelling your kid, because if I
tell you we're gonna end up in afist fight and the cops are
gonna be called, but if I tellyour kid, at least he'll grow up
(35:03):
to know that that shit's notacceptable in public.
It it's like this everyone's soaccepting of everything and that
shit causes weakness and lackof accountability.
Agreed, there's a place forshit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
All these weak bitch kids running around.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
There's a place for shit.
There's a place for weak bitchkids too, but it's just like
yeah, it takes a generation toclear that generation.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So, this generation is not going away.
It's always going to be there.
So the generation behind thatNah the internet.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
We're fucked dude.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
We're fucked.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We're fucked, it's never going to be cleared.
We're fucked.
You can only care about yourown, bro.
We're at the point where it'slike eat or be eaten.
You got to make sure, yourfucking little tribe, I don't
know.
I fear that we've gone past thecommunity of the whole and have
to create littler communities,to kind of like build an
(36:01):
uprising to get it all back butI'm only you know.
I don't know.
Maybe it was like, that'sprobably what our fucking
parents said about us too,though, you know, and that was
40 years ago- this is, uh, thisis a thing that I'm sure you got
to hear about, since your wifeis a public school teacher.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Oh, I get the much worse stories.
I don't even want to repeatmuch like a couple, a couple
people I know also that arepublic school teachers.
Um, they're not even allowed tosay shit to their students
anymore.
They're like, we get floodedwith emails from parents going.
(36:37):
Why did you tell my kid hecan't do this?
What is this?
Why is this?
Uh, you know, getting badgrades and having the parents go
.
Why didn't you give a goodgrade my wife gets.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
She's bucking the trend on that shit as a teacher.
She's had some parents come inand said, like Timmy was naughty
this morning, he doesn't get togo to recess and my wife will
stay straight up.
What happened at home?
You can punish him at home andmaybe you can make him not be
able to play video games in theevening but at school.
(37:14):
If he acts fine here he can goto recess.
If he acts fine after recess hecan go home without a bad
report from me.
But I'm not going to punishyour kid because that's what
happens.
These parents want to have thekid punished at school.
Don't let Timmy go to freelunch or whatever Recess.
You can't participate in theschool play.
(37:34):
It's like no, just because yourshit at home is all fucked.
Timmy's great at school.
Really Do parents do that.
Yeah, timmy's great at school.
I feel like his punishment fromhome shall not carry into
school because he's good here, Ifeel like, because kids.
They know.
They know when they can be goodor not.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
A lot of them it's all a fucking feel like if a
parent or if a teacher uh didthat to a child, that the parent
would be like pissed off, isn'tdaycare?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
that's something that and I'm proud of my wife, she
doesn't.
She's like.
This isn't.
This is different.
This is not at home.
This you said, this is theschool.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
This is not, which I'm surprised because the school
district she teaches in uhisn't known for parents caring
about their children.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I no, I'm not saying the parents are caring the
parent I don't know what thatmeans exactly, but the parents,
the parents don't want to takeresponsibility generalizing the
parents don't want to takeresponsibility for punishing
their own kids.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
They want to carry that into the responsibility of
the school system, like you know, what's fucked up is when the
kid comes home he's like I dondon't know how to do my homework
.
I'm like fuck, ask your fuckingteacher why am.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I going to help you out of doing this shit.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I don't know how to fucking do Algebra 1.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Fuck off with that shit.
I'm learning up that shit now,too.
I'm learning my multiplicationtables all over, because my kid
is a fucking math whiz, althoughmy child is doing square
footage right now, you know thatshit by the back of your hand.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I do, but I still don't want to help him with it,
because it fucking makes me feellike I'm working.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You're like, I don't know how to show my work.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I'm like how much do I need to charge?
How much?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You want to know how much?
To charge Six bucks a square.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
He's like how do we do the square footage?
How do we do the square footage?
How do we do the square footageof this?
Like, how much does a squarefootage of my paying?
Oh fuck, this is school.
It's ridiculous.
No.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
You're giving them numbers with 25% overages.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Wait, how much percent do we have to get over
to make sure we have enough andthen show your work column
You're like because tiles comein broken every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I know you always got to show the fucking
work.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You always got to explain why you came up with
that number.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, four times 10.
Well, tile comes in boxes of 12, so 48.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, parents out there, man,if you're listening, fuck it.
Don't let your kids be a pieceof shit.
That's it, I agree.
That's my announcement.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Be, accountable.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Don't let your kids be a piece of shit.
Save the world.
Save the world from bullies.
Save the world by teaching yourkid to not be a piece of shit.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
So, tony, I appreciate your bringing up the
children because you know we allhave them.
So what is your ending?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I don't know, man, I think I'm going to get new ones.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Start over Move to a new state Start over, maybe a.
European country or something Iknow where I made my mistakes.
You got 20 mil now you can goanywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So what if a kid is too much rebellious?
What if they don't even listen?
If they don't listen, from whenthey're one, you're saying you
learned your lesson, you raisedthem wrong.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You take them into a country.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
And you beat them with canes.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, no, no, you don't beat your own kids.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I mean, that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You take them to a country where all the roads are
made out of dirt and you just gosightseeing through the
villages and watching the otherkids get beat in the streets.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
No iPads.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
No Nintendos, no Nikes, no cool clothes.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Play with rocks and sticks.
The only Nikes they have on isbecause they made them that day.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, See, my kid sees the other side.
So yeah, I'm in the grime, likemaybe you got to get your kid
into the grime a little bit.
He's out there in the lakecountries getting.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Out in the suburbs You're saying I got to move him
into Stalis.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You got to move him into some diversity, some how
the other half lives.
Yeah yeah, he's getting alittle.
He's getting a little soft.
Maybe, Takes his shoes, if hematters, if he thinks what shoes
he has on matters more than thefact that he has shoes.
I'm fucking up right, gottashow him.
(42:06):
Your theory of bringing him tothe third world country makes a
little sense yeah, no, I thinkyou're right, I did drive him
past my childhood house.
Yeah, like look at where dadnot not, not.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Not like the house I was born in, but like the house
I lived my teenage years in.
And he looked at he goes whowould want to live here?
It was great at the time.
The only thing I had to tellhim is nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
This is why I work so hard yeah, no, I think the kids
are on.
They're like naive you knowthey don't know the world.
Mistakes will be made,assumptions will be made like
their life is terrible when theyit's really fucking glorious.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
There's a point where they where you learn, where you
see so how do you, with allyour wisdom and knowledge, how
do you, how do you relate to achild that what a random kid at
his school thinks about hishaircut or his shirt doesn't
(43:13):
matter?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
you probably gotta degrade them more at home.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Man, with time I guess it's aphase your kid's in that phase
where everything's goofy andweird because he's like in his
teens right Beginning teens.
Yeah he's about to be 12 in acouple weeks.
Yeah, so he's getting into that.
Should I like?
Nah, he'll grow out of it bro.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
You think so?
Yeah, yeah, because I wasthinking about starting.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
He needs to get a lady thing going.
Probably pretty soon he's goingto be I guess that's still a
couple years off probably, oh,he's going to grow out of it, I
think, though.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about just starting to
verbally chop down his mom infront of him all the time.
That's a tactic and just lethim see how it just rolls off of
her back.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's a tactic, but I don't think that's it.
No, I mean, I don't need twopeople in counseling.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Just make it physical , push her down the stairs a
little bit, you know.
Let her see how strong you are,I think he'll grow out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
That's a teen thing where everything you got to be
cool, you got to fit in, youknow that kind of crap.
But fucking braids, dude thebraids, you can say no.
Like I remember when I was uh,in that phase I wanted to dye my
hair and my dad was like well,no like 21 no fucking way.
(44:35):
You dyed your hair and then itwas like, fine, you can dye shit
on your hair, but I wanted togo black.
At the time, I was black and mymom was like nope, you're not
going black.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I know your dad.
He doesn't like anything blackI wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't know about that.
I don't know what that was.
That's false.
I don't even know maybe hisgranddad, but uh, the the thing
about it with kids is that theythink they need to be cool and
eventually they come to realizethat nobody's fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Being yourself is cool except a one kid with
braids maybe, dude, maybe he'llstart a trend.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
I don't know, maybe it'll fit his noggin well, give
him some respect about starting,but I think you know what?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I think the braids thing will learn him the lesson,
because that'll be like whatnow the fourth or fifth
transition or transfer of like Igot to do this, I got to do
this, and the braids thing willsuck a lot and not be effective
Like new shoes.
Okay, whatever, Just changeshoes.
I just can't believe that you Gofrom short cut to long, long
(45:43):
cut.
Not so much of a big deal, butputting the braids in is going
to be a big fucking pain in theass and it's not going to be
something he's gonna be able totake out right away and it's not
gonna work oh, dude, I'm soexcited about watching him sit
in this chair.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I can't believe that tony, I can't believe that you
would consider braids over justdying hair, but but I know he
didn't ask for dying hair.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So I'm assuming no for dying hair.
I'm assuming at this point withhow much you're bringing up
dying hair?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
that one of your children has dyed hair currently
?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
No, no, no, okay, no, you're just obsessively
bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Because it's just, it's the color hair.
I mean okay, because it's just,it's the color hair.
I mean, what the okay?
My kid died is our uh uh theend of last year dyed his hair
blue, but it was asemi-permanent, but it lasted
all summer and he kept asking meevery fucking day, when is the
blue gonna wash out?
When is it gonna?
(46:41):
When is it gonna go back to theblonde?
How do you get it blonde again?
Did you gotta stay in the sunlonger?
Dad, like jesus christ, don'tfucking dye your hair ever again
.
Then I don't fucking know.
He's semi-permanent, this shit,it's semi the.
The seven-year-old did ithimself he went to the store by
himself too and grabbed his own.
No, yeah, all the kids weredoing it and he did it and he
(47:07):
regretted it.
I let him regret it and he'snever gonna dye his hair again.
I guarantee that, cause hefucking hated it.
Is it still like?
a little blue no, no, it'stotally gone.
No, it's totally gone.
This was at the end of school,school year, so all summer, and
from now.
So, yeah, yeah, I caught it andit's all gone.
(47:27):
But again, you have to let themmake those mistakes.
So again, like you saying aboutthe braids, yeah, let him make
that mistake.
He won't do it again.
Fully plan on it.
He won't do it again.
So this is what we have to doand and this is the conclusion
of the show, I think is let kidswhat Do?
(47:49):
What the fuck you say.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I think that was the clear message of this.
No, make their own mistakes.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Let them make their own mistakes, but also guide
them in the you know.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
You can't let them make huge mistakes.
Okay, guide them.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
The closing statement is parents.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I said guide them in some ways, the closing statement
is parents, don't let your kidsbe pieces of shit.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh, I agree with that .
I agree with that.
But you have to let them maketheir own mistakes, Otherwise
you don't learn unless you makea mistake.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I based my whole life around that.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I mean I don't think kids are hearing enough.
I took you into this world andI can take you out.
I don't think kids hearing areenough of that.
That's just crazy.
Government should let us beatour kids again, or at least
threaten to beat them.
Threaten, not actually do it.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
What about teachers?
Letting teachers beat the kidsagain?
They should have more poweryeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
None of the kids ever get sent home from school.
You don't get sent homeunsuspended, depends what they
do.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I don't think kids are that crazy anymore, just
kidding I know that's.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I mean false.
Two kids got suspended.
Well, one.
One kid in chase's grade gotexpelled.
Sounds like a suburb what doyou do?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
what do you do under the table?
I can't even I can't go toschool.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah, I can't even say on this show what this kid
did.
Yes, you can tell us.
Tell us, no one knows who thekid is.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Fucking tell us, I won't lead us out of this
fucking shithole.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Thanks, for joining us.
It was a fucking blast.
Just you know, take care ofyour kids, alright.
Thanks for joining us.
It was a fucking blast.
Just you know, take care ofyour kids Like your kid is not
the best kid in the world andyou gotta let him know that.
No-transcript.
Thank you everybody for tuning in to this week's Top
Shelf Story, and today I wantto talk about how fucked up this
generation of children are.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, I'm raising one of them.
I can't wait to hear about it,tony.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So my kid's, at an age where everything needs to be
cool, it needs to have theright riz.
You know what I'm saying.
You're right, I do, and it'sreally fucking annoying Riz Raz,
because what's cool one day andI don't know if this is an all
(01:10):
kids thing or if this is a mykid thing, so you guys might
have to help me out on this butmy kid, if somebody says
something to him, we're going touse this prime example that's
going through my house right now.
That started several years ago.
So I used to my kid used tohave a nice high and tight fade
(01:35):
haircut, just like yours no, no,like I mean no, like you can do
.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You took him to a cheaper barber.
No, I'm his barber.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But, he had it very, very tight on top.
He liked it.
He liked it where it was likeprickly when he ran his hand on
it on the top and like skin fadeon the side.
That's how he liked it.
That's how he always liked it.
Maybe that's how you like tocut.
I liked it on him.
And then one day and this islike three years ago, probably
(02:13):
two years ago, uh, his friend atschool called him buzz cut.
That's all he said.
He called him buzz cut one timeand instead of my kid going
back and tell like I tell him todo when somebody talks shit to
him, tell him to suck your dickhe didn't do it he came home and
(02:34):
told me that he is now decidedto grow his hair out starting
that day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yep, wait.
Instead of saying suck my dick,it is growing my hair out it's
probably a better choiceactually yeah, I think it would
be.
Tony.
You're in a rich place, you'regoing to get expelled for
something like that no, you'renot going to get expelled, you
don't think anyone says swearsin your school.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You tell some spoiled little asshole to eat your ass
and the problem's solved.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know what I'm saying fuck what happened is
sucking a dick that looks tosound a little better.
Eating ass is going a littletoo far.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It depends on the severity of the situation.
But and my kids too afraid tosay it to anybody too I tell
them all the time I don't thinkI've ever said to anyone.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I'm on your kid's side on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, I get what you're trying to say, though,
that's okay.
More than one person can bewrong, that's fine, right?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
you ever tell anyone to suck your dick, though?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
yes, I married her nice, so noise, tony.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So my kid has now grown his hair out.
Uh, it's basically the.
Can I talk to your manager?
Cut it's down to his chin erinit's down to his chin gotta be
kidding me.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It also looks good on him, hire this picture while
you explain this you need to seea picture as you're explaining.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, you need to hire this kid that called him
buzzcut, to call him a littlesissy fairy with his long ass
bitch hair remember that old assword fairy, you fairy yeah you,
fairy fucking fairy dude,that's so old school dude.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I like it that's the way it is too man.
So now this kid called him Ithink it was a different kid
that called it too Said that hishaircut looks emo.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I've heard that before my kids.
I had a kid on my soccer teamthat had long hair on one side,
shaved and whatever, and my kidsare like that's, that's emo kid
.
Yeah, what's with the emo talk?
I don't know.
He look, is it?
(04:55):
Is it all long or is it shorton the sides?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
because it looks all long no, it was short on the
sides, and then he wanted tostart growing it out on the
sides.
That's not so bad.
I mean, he probably does thatgay-ass Bieber thing all fucking
day.
But that's what he wants and Idon't like there's plenty of
(05:22):
shit I need to control about mykid?
Yeah, he'll learn but hishaircut is not one of them be
fucking happy if he wants to dowhatever he wants with his hair
dude, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Sure, just as long as it fits in with what I tell him
he needs to do what if he askedyou I don't know if that makes
sense what if he wanted to dyeit a different color?
No, that's a hard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No, really grow it however he wants, but he wow
tony's wow not a fucking chance.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's what the line is drawn, and a colored hair,
yeah what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
why?
So I'm gonna tell you.
So I will not approve coloredhair, but I will approve what is
so wrong with colored hair?
So he doesn't want to cut hishair, but he doesn't want to
keep growing it and he wants hiskid to quit calling him emo.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
So that would be a lot more emo to color it, does
he?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
realize there's always going to be another name
if he keeps letting that matter.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is what I'm telling him.
So now, kids are fucking dicks.
So now he's like well,basketball season's starting and
I don't want to cut my hairshort, but I don't want it in my
face.
Just get a band.
He wants full fucking braidsfull braids they're gonna start
(06:44):
calling him Sandy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If he braids that shit, I can learn real quick,
you probably could.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, I think you could learn, do not.
What's worse braids or coloredhair.
Braids or colored hair what's?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
worse Fuck that Braids on a white kid.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So he wants braids old dude, there's like three
other white kids out of schoolthat have braids.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, they're probably black no, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There's no black people at his school you're
gonna have to start calling themjayden or something that's my,
that's my you offered up thatinformation to the general
public.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So he wants braids and I'm going, okay, whatever.
So I find somebody that's goingto braid his hair and my
apprentice also had braids andhe came over the other day and
he was like, oh, chase, I hearyou want braids.
(07:44):
And he's like, yeah, I, youwant braids.
And he's like, yeah, I thinkI'm gonna get them.
And he goes have you ever hadyour hair braided before?
And he's like, no, why doesn't?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
it fucking he goes.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm just letting you know now hurts, he goes.
It is excruciatingly painfuland, uh, he goes.
Maybe after like six or seventimes.
You start getting used tohaving your hair braided.
It's not so bad, but the firsttime he's like it is the most
miserable thing you will ever gothrough in your life because
(08:13):
basically, you have to get it sotight that it's almost ripped
out of your head, otherwise itwill not.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It will not work.
Yeah right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, so I understand of it so I say
something to him.
I'm like you, you know you wantto get cornrows, that's what
you got to deal with.
And uh, he goes.
Oh, I don't want cornrows.
I'm like, what the fuck do youwant?
He goes, goes.
I want box braids His hair'snot long enough.
(08:44):
He wants fucking coolio braids.
I'm like what the fuck is wrongwith this kid.
And it's all because one personsaid he looks emo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't think that's it.
He saw something somewhere on aTikTok, on a Facebook ad,
whatever it was, and he's likedude.
That kid's hair is slick.
Can we represent that?
How do I do it?
What's that called?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, all he watches is the NBA.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
so I'm sure Okay, there you go.
I mean, there's like 16 guys oneach team that have fucking
cool braids.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, dude, he does not need that, he does not.
Well, you know what?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You cannot dude, he does not need that, he does not.
Well, you know what you cannot.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He's just gonna stop him from doing that you're gonna
cause, I'm gonna let him do it,and then immediately somebody's
gonna talk shit to him oh yeah,he's gonna be like he's gonna
be like dad.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We need to get these out of my hair tonight they're
like he's gonna come to schooland someone's gonna be like uh,
I thought coolio died man dude.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Nobody at his school knows who the fuck coolio is uh,
you never know, it's tiktok ageuh did I ever tell you when we
were at a restaurant, michellewas looking at her phone and it
was me, her and chase.
And she looks at her phone, shegoes, she goes.
Oh shit, coolio died and chasestarted fucking crying and he's
(10:13):
like why did we know him?
He's feeling you have thatreally sensitive child she
thought he thought somebodyclose to us died who was named
Cleo.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Auntie Coolio.
Is that the woman we used to goover and get spaghetti dinner
after church?
Auntie Coolio?
No, no, that was.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Aunt Jackie.
No, this is a rapper from 1989who really got famous in 93.
How did he die again?
I don't know.
I'm assuming heart disease.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
By the fucking braids he had on his head.
Pulled his fucking skin andface apart.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Tell your son this is what happens when you get
braids you die like Coolio.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, but it didn't help that my apprentice was over
and he's like Wait he was overthat day.
He was over.
A couple apprentice was overand he's like wait, he was over
that day, he was over a coupledays ago.
And he's like yeah, I'm growingmy hair back out so I can get
braids oh my god, god damn him.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He always says the worst thing at the worst time he
is the worst sometimes.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I hope he doesn't listen to the show.
I doubt it.
He's too young.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
He doesn't listen to podcasts so what else about this
generation?
Yeah, I don't think that was avery good example.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Your own kids, I'm just saying it's a thing like
they they always have to havethe fucking coolest thing like.
Like he made us run out and gethim Jordans and for some reason
he wore them to school for acouple days and then he was like
I don't like them anymore andI'm like who said something?
And he's like nobody.
(11:58):
Just I think I want this nowand it's just the race to try to
be like.
I don't know if they're tryingto be like everybody else, but
like I see all these fuckingkids wearing like hopping shoes
and shit no, it's, it's it.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There's a huge influence and it's definitely,
uh, the it's the expand of reels, short videos of people doing
dumb things or expressing theway they are in life, and my
kids are all day long watchingand listening to videos.
It's fascinating.
(12:34):
Right, swipe, they'll watchsomething for a second or two
seconds.
Swipe, it's swiped and you sitnext to them and you're like,
god damn it, don't swipe at thatone.
I want to know what happened.
Like they will literally swipethrough 15, 20, 50 fucking
things before they watch onething for more than 10 seconds
and then, when that 10 secondsgoes, that's where they really
(12:58):
expand on how they like, reallywant to like, express themselves
, and usually it's alwaysnegative or dumb, really dumb.
It's always people that have noidea what's going on.
It's 20 year olds, 30 year olds, maybe not 30 year olds, 20
year olds that are, uh, fuckingmommy boys and nothing to do in
(13:22):
life than just the jake pauls,yeah exactly jake paul 10 years
ago.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Exactly, not jake paul now did you guys?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
you see a video where they showed jake paul when he
was 15 dancing mike tyson whenhe was 15.
Jake paul is doing like fuckingyeah, dancing in the bathroom
fucking twerking his ass andmike tyson's kicking the fuck
out of someone.
But now Mike Tyson fought JakePaul at 58.
Now Mike Tyson looks like thefucking fool because he just
(13:53):
wanted, basically he wanted.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, he doesn't look like a fool man he was at one
point.
He's got fucking tigers to feedbro.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He was at one point.
He walked away from the camera,kissed the one point.
He walked away from the camera,kissed the guy.
Oh, kiss the guy first walkedaway from the camera, showed his
ass.
You knew right away.
This is all fucking show, yeahyou know how much everybody
watched it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know how much meat tigers eat a day.
I watched tiger king.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I know, dude, you gotta kill horses on the daily
yeah, that shit ain't cheap man.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Mike tyson needed 20 million dollars, and I'm gonna
tell you this right now I don'tgive a fuck who you are there.
I mean, there really isn'tanything I wouldn't do for 20
million dollars, million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think I could find something you wouldn't do you
could get me to do anything,chris, we can.
Let's find something tony goingto do for 20 million dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't know this guy's a lot of money, but yeah,
I don't want to go down thatpath.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Listen to me, if you gave me 20 million dollars every
generation, wait what?
Every generation of my familywould be taken care of that's
not enough.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That is not enough money.
No, I would take that 20million dollars, you're gonna
invest.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I would keep a million of it.
I would put 19 straight in apark.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Okay, then stop now.
When you said 20 million, stopthere, because it's not 20
million anymore.
It's what you had done with the20 million, right so it's not
20 million you cannot take.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
20 million is a kickstart to generational wealth
.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Agreed agreed, unless you're buying, unless you spend
it on dumb shit yeah, dude,because someone is like okay,
someone who has 300 now goes tocasino, try to get rich rather
than buying fucking apple stockright or whatever right in this
case, bitcoin's probably thebetter example and they go to
the $300 now goes to casino totry to get rich rather than
buying fucking Apple stock rightor whatever right.
In this case, Bitcoin isprobably the better example, and
they go to the casino with it.
So why do you think that you'regoing to do any different when
(15:53):
you have a bunch of zeros behindthat $200?
Do you know how long it wouldtake me?
You're just going to lose thesame amount.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you know how long it would take me to go to the
casino?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
with $200 at a crack and blow through $20 million.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You won't go to 200 bucks at a crack, dude.
You won't.
No, I would literally-.
You're not going to take Jeevesand the $30,000 a year you pay
him to drive into your $80,000limousine down to the casino to
play 200 bucks dude, you'regoing to play $25,000 when you
go down there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's going to be your new zero?
Not at all.
Yes, I'm at a very differentlevel financially than I was 20
years ago.
Yeah, but okay, if you like, asit sits right now, and like I'm
not saying like, um, I wouldcall myself middle class if
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there ever was one.
Okay, like I am not wealthy atall, but when I was young I was
fucking poor.
I, I still live my life very,very, very similar.
I'm not, I'm not doing shitlike excessively, because now I
have the ability to make acouple thousand dollars a week
(17:09):
instead of 140 a week when I wasyoung.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't know, bro, when was the last time you had
to hit your starter with ahammer?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
yeah, we got a lot of dead you know what I'm saying
we got a lot of dead animals onthe wall too.
Something's going on here.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
When last time you had to rent a.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That deer cost me a bullet, bro, and I'm gonna tell
you this oh shit, it cost you abullet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It cost you a fucking thousand dollars, a thousand
dollars to make it look that way.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Nah, to get that mounted, that was 300 bucks.
That was 275.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Why is it too so?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
you said $20 million.
$20 million, you're staying inyour house.
I would keep a million of it,yeah, Well.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't know You're moving into my house.
I don't know Moving to my houseI wouldn't buy it With your
current fucking fancy middleclass money and move into my
house and you would have nearlya quarter million, probably half
a million dollars, right.
I'd be like one fortieth of theway.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I very I actually very much so considered selling
my house and moving to WestAllis.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, dude, welcome to the party.
Come on down, we live why?
And moving to West Allis?
Yeah, dude, welcome to theparty.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Come on down, we live .
Why?
So that that money can beinvested in something else for?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
my future.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Because my house.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You think West Allis is going to?
It's an investment, I know.
But a house, a house in WestAllis, I don't think it's going
to appreciate as much assomething in new berlin, or I
don't know uh fucking where youlive.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
No, I'm saying taking what, what my house has gained
in value since I've been in Iunderstand what you're saying
moving into something much, muchcheaper I understand so I could
free that money up actually thebest time would to be would be
right now to do it because Iconsider selling my house and
moving my whole family with mymom just to save up for a while
into the storage room you have.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh wait, you know you have like six rooms here in the
fucking uh, just living at theshop we're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I checked my lease says oh, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
they got heat.
You got a fucking fridge whatelse you need you can deliver
here.
Wow, you're done.
There's four bathrooms.
It takes a little bit for themto find it, but hey, yeah,
there's four fucking bathroomshere.
Jesus Christ, I shit in one.
I forget what one I shot in.
Yeah, jason, that one, gordon,the other one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
The kids nowadays are a product of the parents that
are around.
True that Chris and I interactwith a lot of humans throughout
my day, as much as I can, goingto places here and there and the
humans and I'll suck it's notjust the kids, bro.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, it really is the like.
There's shitty people.
There's just shitty people.
Okay, I don't know with thewoke people nowadays, how is
life going to be in 10, 15, 20?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
years.
I think the wokeness is kind oftaking a back seat in society.
It is now, I think, people arerealizing the stuff that they
were standing up for was absurd.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What's the thing that we need to really focus on here
is the lack of ability.
Really focus on here is thelack of ability, the lack of
people's ability to takeaccountability for what the fuck
they got going on.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I couldn't even say that again if you asked me, to
people like it do not takeaccountability for their own
shit ever my whole life'snothing but accountability.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The old thirty thousand dollar curtains,
everything's in my mama's nametype shit, where you can have
all these fancy shit, but you'restill getting food stamps and
rent assistance and whateverprograms or something like I
don't know.
I can't think of any goodexamples, but it's the people.
(21:06):
What it is, though, is thatpeople don't realize that if you
don't take accountability forthe shitty shit, then when
something good happens to you,you can't accept that shit
either.
So when you accept and takeaccountability for the bad shit
that happens in life, you cansay yeah.
When something good happens,you say yeah, I did that and
feel confident that you fuckingdid it and that's what the world
(21:28):
needs more of.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Agreed, that was my, my soapbox I mean, I know
someone that's not the kids.
I know someone that's homeless,living with with me right now,
with me right now.
That's that's getting 400dollars in food stamps a month.
Well, whatever, I mean you'rethat's that right.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
This individual probably can't work very well
right now, but it was probablydecisions they made earlier in
their life that may have causeda faster trip to where there's
accountability, yes, so where'sthe accountability happening
there then?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
there's not.
That's the problem.
So how can you, how can youaccount for that?
Who's going to account for that?
I mean, how do you?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I personally, I am raising a child to be
accountable.
I was raised, you gotta, wegotta win, we gotta win the
accountability people gotta win.
I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, I get it.
Uh, you have to be.
If your actions you fuck up,take your fuck up to the heart
and fucking move on, becausepeople have such a hard time
accepting a win.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Sometimes they're like I don't deserve this, like
when something good happens tothem, like I don't deserve this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Nobody says that.
Oh yeah, I don't understandthat not at all.
I would say more everybody'slike when they don't win,
they're like I should have wonyeah.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I would say that too, and I would say the exact same
thing if you feel like there'ssomething wrong because I did
not win, like all all fuckingaround the side.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I am brutally honest with my children and we're gonna
take his last basketball seasonseason into account here.
They fucking sucked.
Everybody beat them.
Were you still the coach?
I was not the coach.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was the assistant to the coach.
What was your ending win-loss?
How many games did they win One?
How many games did they win one?
How many?
How many games did they lose?
Uh, nine.
Okay, so that's not that manygames, though they.
They lost.
The fucking bucks are.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Basically, they could be nine and oh oh, you think
the team is still meldingtogether and didn't have their
shot after nine, ten games Iagree, no, no.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think there is a chance where someone can develop
in a team where it can just allof a sudden turn around.
They can start winning likeevery fucking game.
Yes, but here's the thingthat's not enough to understand
a team when you have nine gamesright, but what I'm saying is is
he's like why are we losing?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
like he didn't understand why they like they
were all bummed out when theylost and it's like well, you
didn't play good, the other teampracticed harder, not true,
that's not true.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You play.
You play together as a team.
They weren't playing togetheras a team.
They finally were okay becauselet me ask you this when was
that one win?
It was probably towards the end.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
No, it's like the second game well, you know what?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
that just fucks all the shit I was just trying to
prove to you about.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But I'm like, well, I'm like the other teams
practice more, they play bettertogether.
I'm like nobody on my kid'steam is worse than any other
individual kid on any of theother teams.
Like every team.
How do you know that?
Really, though, like every teamhas like one kid that is like
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substantially better than therest like shooters like like you
got some good shit.
Yeah, there's like, there'slike one yannis on every team
and all this is not a shooter.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
All the rest of them are ball champs.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know like they're , they're all just good, they're
fine, but they can't playtogether as a team.
And I have no problem tellingmy child that, like you failed
because your team didn'tpractice enough together.
You guys didn't work hard, youdidn't practice outside of your
(25:26):
practices for the with the coachyeah, you gotta practice
yourself like like there's a lotof reasons why you guys are
losing these games right, andinstead of you, I know for a
fact, other parents are justlike oh, it wasn't your day, oh,
they, they just played bettertoday, like sugar-coated, why
(25:48):
they lost.
And I'm just like look, youknow, you fucking lost.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know that reminds me of one of the episodes on um
practical jokers, where one ofthe um the penalties or whatever
they do at the end oh, when joehad the not joe not joe um,
whatever his name was had totalk shit to his daughter about
being shitty at baseball andlike it ain't your sport.
(26:13):
You can just be a home mom,You'll be okay with that.
You can't play sports, Just youknow, take yeah, like, like
shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, I know you have to be like that.
The one I think about withImpractical Jokers is when Joe
or maybe it was Q, I don't knowone of them, it was Q, one of
the four, the baseball Was itbaseball?
No, he had to go to like anindoor play gym for kids oh,
that was Q and say shit to theparents.
Yeah, that was Q.
(26:42):
He's like oh, it's kind of hardto watch your kid when your
face is buried in your phone.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You know, I don't know, man, I feel like you have
to be honest with your kid.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like yeah, the way, the way this generation is like
on the computer and fuckingbreezing through shit on youtube
and all that shit, likeeverything's instant
gratification for them and ittook away all their like hey,
look, man, you want to be goodat playing the fucking trumpet.
We gotta work well that shitdoesn't happen the first time
(27:15):
you pick the trumpet up.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Like there's a lot that goesinto that.
Like you want to be good at thetrumpet, you're gonna have to
fucking practice serious.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
We're getting fucking serious right now.
I'm fucking seriously agreeingwith you.
That is true.
Everything's instantgratification, yeah, and my kids
do that with their pads, theiripads, their fucking phones.
And no, it's no more likeworking weeks and weeks on end
to finally be able to dosomething like play an
(27:48):
instrument, and you're like,just yeah like, for instance, me
.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Me and my kid used to draw together all the time and
sometimes you just have anatural drawing ability, though
right, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I drew the spider straight just off the top of my
head.
This is either a fruit stand ora garbage.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, I like it.
You know right away.
I thought I drew the spider.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But we were drawing together for me to teach him a
lesson that we're going to sitdown for 10 times and draw over
the next month and that wholetime I'm going to work on the
same drawing, like I'm going tokeep adding to it and adding to
it and adding, because you knowit's like okay, let's both draw
(28:34):
an elephant today.
And I'm drawing a superdetailed and sharpening my
pencils different and rubbingthem down to get them to be not
so sharp and adding details andmaking it look like a real life
elephant.
And he draws the outline of anelephant, colors it gray, real
quick.
And he's like all right, whatdo we draw next?
And I'm like, no, it doesn'twork like that.
(28:56):
You want to make something good.
It takes time and effort.
Like everything is not fuckingtwo seconds, I'm the best at it.
Move on Right.
I don't know, man, lack ofspecialization, everyone can be
the same, the whole mentality,it all contributes teaching,
(29:18):
teaching them to focus onanything when, when everything
in their life electronically isin three fucking second clips,
is impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know what's crazy too is like a very simple thing
to that.
Your point you're just sayingis like my kid will play FIFA.
He plays the FIFA like everydaysoccer on the Xbox and like he
always plays it on like you playagainst the computer and he
always plays it on easy.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And he wins like 63 to two.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, it's always like I mean, like how many?
How do you score 60 pointsplaying a soccer game?
And I'm like, can you try alittle bit harder?
Just put it up to expert or putit up to novice or whatever.
So when I play with them, weput up the highest fucking level
ever or the highest level theyhave, and we barely win.
(30:13):
Every time and we played theworst fucking team we can find
because I know that we pickedthe better team that would play
we get our asses kicked.
And every time he plays byhimself, he plays against like
the.
He puts it on the easy, easyact like easy mode yeah, and
he's like dad.
Look what I just did dad, lookwhat I just did.
(30:35):
Look at like he's screamingyeah, and then he can rub three
players with hat tricks yeah,and every player on the other
team gets red cards.
So he's basically playingagainst six people when he's got
11.
So, yeah, no it's.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
He's playing Eastern Kentucky freshman team.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And we go back to exactly the same thing you're
talking about.
It's instant gratification.
Why is he playing like that?
Because if he plays at a harderlevel, he knows it's going to
take effort.
He knows he probably can't win.
Yeah, he might not win harderlevel.
He knows it's going to takeeffort and he knows he probably
can't, he might not win and heprobably won't win and he
doesn't want to not win, so heplays at the and it's just like
(31:16):
that's the day and age it iswith, fucking well hopefully
your kid can find a haircut, aset of shoes that he enjoys,
that his friends don't thepeople he thinks his friends
don't, he can't the people hethinks his friends don't pick on
him for he can't.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So one last thing, going back to what jay was
talking about when you playagainst your kids in anything,
do you let them win?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I've never lost.
I'm the best.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
four in a row or what is that cross?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
what is it called the ?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
well, you dropped it.
No, you dropped the fucking.
That too.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Connect, connect for tetris, I've never lost in
tetris ever in my life yeah,according to my kid Chess
checkers, you play chess withyour Super Mario Kart.
You play chess with her.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, she knows how to play chess.
She likes it.
Yeah, she thought she wasreally good until she met her
dad.
It doesn't matter how she'slike.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Dad, can I teach you how to play?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Show me how this thing works.
She knows.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Womp, womp, kings G2 to G4.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Boom, banana peeling her ass every chance you get.
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
All that matters is she knows how to play chess.
That's hard enough.
She's only eight, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, that's, she just picked up skateboarding,
jay.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Oh, I'll teach her to skateboard.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Let's skateboard.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
for like 20 years you teach my kid to skateboard I
might consider teaching your kidhow to ride a bike, which the
17 year old or the either onethat needs to know what are you
saying, tony, no, I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm assuming, with your soft parenting, that you do
let your kids win.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh, yeah, I was gonna .
I was trying not to answer thatquestion.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Uh, yeah, I do I mean , my kid does win some games,
but not the ones that are likeones that I'm good at or I'll
kind of like I'll kind of likemake them a little hard at first
, but you know, I'll let them alittle win.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I just I, yeah, I'm a pleaser contributing to their
gratification yes, yeah, you'reright, that's bad.
We just had the wholediscussion about this.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Kids can't win kids can't win, dude, they have to
always be wrong.
You have to always be teaching.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I just don't want to listen to them scream and run,
scream, run around the house andthrow and shit.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I think that happened a couple times and then that
stopped.
Yeah, yeah, you just say, don'tdo that anymore on the house
and throwing shit.
I think that happened a coupletimes.
That's easy to put a stop to,yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, just say, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
All right, it would be funny, because that was one
of the other things I was goingto say is I was going to say it
kind of as an asshole thing islike make being able to yell at
other people's kids great again.
Like I remember when I was akid, like it was okay that my
dad was yelling at some otherkid who was in the aisle, like
(34:18):
screaming, like a little tempertantrum, shit, and he'd be like
you do that.
No, you get the hell off theground, like you're making this
distraught, you're making thisterrible for me, and then the
other dad would be like see,timmy, you're a piece of shit
and other people are noticingtoo get off the ground and then,
like timmy would know, like,not only is my dad not like this
, other dads in society don'tlike this, but now you can't
(34:41):
tell another kid like, hey, kid,get out of the way, stop riding
a cart, like that, that's notwhat it's for, because the
parent will be like let my kiddo what he wants to do.
Who are you to tell my kid whatto do?
And you want to be like I'mtelling your kid, because if I
tell you we're gonna end up in afist fight and the cops are
gonna be called, but if I tellyour kid, at least he'll grow up
(35:03):
to know that that shit's notacceptable in public.
It it's like this everyone's soaccepting of everything and that
shit causes weakness and lackof accountability.
Agreed, there's a place forshit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
All these weak bitch kids running around.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
There's a place for shit.
There's a place for weak bitchkids too, but it's just like
yeah, it takes a generation toclear that generation.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So, this generation is not going away.
It's always going to be there.
So the generation behind thatNah the internet.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
We're fucked dude.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
We're fucked.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We're fucked, it's never going to be cleared.
We're fucked.
You can only care about yourown, bro.
We're at the point where it'slike eat or be eaten.
You got to make sure, yourfucking little tribe, I don't
know.
I fear that we've gone past thecommunity of the whole and have
to create littler communities,to kind of like build an
(36:01):
uprising to get it all back butI'm only you know.
I don't know.
Maybe it was like, that'sprobably what our fucking
parents said about us too,though, you know, and that was
40 years ago- this is, uh, thisis a thing that I'm sure you got
to hear about, since your wifeis a public school teacher.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Oh, I get the much worse stories.
I don't even want to repeatmuch like a couple, a couple
people I know also that arepublic school teachers.
Um, they're not even allowed tosay shit to their students
anymore.
They're like, we get floodedwith emails from parents going.
(36:37):
Why did you tell my kid hecan't do this?
What is this?
Why is this?
Uh, you know, getting badgrades and having the parents go
.
Why didn't you give a goodgrade my wife gets.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
She's bucking the trend on that shit as a teacher.
She's had some parents come inand said, like Timmy was naughty
this morning, he doesn't get togo to recess and my wife will
stay straight up.
What happened at home?
You can punish him at home andmaybe you can make him not be
able to play video games in theevening but at school.
(37:14):
If he acts fine here he can goto recess.
If he acts fine after recess hecan go home without a bad
report from me.
But I'm not going to punishyour kid because that's what
happens.
These parents want to have thekid punished at school.
Don't let Timmy go to freelunch or whatever Recess.
You can't participate in theschool play.
(37:34):
It's like no, just because yourshit at home is all fucked.
Timmy's great at school.
Really Do parents do that.
Yeah, timmy's great at school.
I feel like his punishment fromhome shall not carry into
school because he's good here, Ifeel like, because kids.
They know.
They know when they can be goodor not.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
A lot of them it's all a fucking feel like if a
parent or if a teacher uh didthat to a child, that the parent
would be like pissed off, isn'tdaycare?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
that's something that and I'm proud of my wife, she
doesn't.
She's like.
This isn't.
This is different.
This is not at home.
This you said, this is theschool.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
This is not, which I'm surprised because the school
district she teaches in uhisn't known for parents caring
about their children.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I no, I'm not saying the parents are caring the
parent I don't know what thatmeans exactly, but the parents,
the parents don't want to takeresponsibility generalizing the
parents don't want to takeresponsibility for punishing
their own kids.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
They want to carry that into the responsibility of
the school system, like you know, what's fucked up is when the
kid comes home he's like I dondon't know how to do my homework
.
I'm like fuck, ask your fuckingteacher why am.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I going to help you out of doing this shit.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I don't know how to fucking do Algebra 1.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Fuck off with that shit.
I'm learning up that shit now,too.
I'm learning my multiplicationtables all over, because my kid
is a fucking math whiz, althoughmy child is doing square
footage right now, you know thatshit by the back of your hand.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I do, but I still don't want to help him with it,
because it fucking makes me feellike I'm working.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You're like, I don't know how to show my work.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I'm like how much do I need to charge?
How much?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You want to know how much?
To charge Six bucks a square.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
He's like how do we do the square footage?
How do we do the square footage?
How do we do the square footageof this?
Like, how much does a squarefootage of my paying?
Oh fuck, this is school.
It's ridiculous.
No.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
You're giving them numbers with 25% overages.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Wait, how much percent do we have to get over
to make sure we have enough andthen show your work column
You're like because tiles comein broken every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I know you always got to show the fucking
work.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You always got to explain why you came up with
that number.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, four times 10.
Well, tile comes in boxes of 12, so 48.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, parents out there, man,if you're listening, fuck it.
Don't let your kids be a pieceof shit.
That's it, I agree.
That's my announcement.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Be, accountable.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Don't let your kids be a piece of shit.
Save the world.
Save the world from bullies.
Save the world by teaching yourkid to not be a piece of shit.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
So, tony, I appreciate your bringing up the
children because you know we allhave them.
So what is your ending?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I don't know, man, I think I'm going to get new ones.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Start over Move to a new state Start over, maybe a.
European country or something Iknow where I made my mistakes.
You got 20 mil now you can goanywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So what if a kid is too much rebellious?
What if they don't even listen?
If they don't listen, from whenthey're one, you're saying you
learned your lesson, you raisedthem wrong.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You take them into a country.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
And you beat them with canes.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, no, no, you don't beat your own kids.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I mean, that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You take them to a country where all the roads are
made out of dirt and you just gosightseeing through the
villages and watching the otherkids get beat in the streets.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
No iPads.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
No Nintendos, no Nikes, no cool clothes.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Play with rocks and sticks.
The only Nikes they have on isbecause they made them that day.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, See, my kid sees the other side.
So yeah, I'm in the grime, likemaybe you got to get your kid
into the grime a little bit.
He's out there in the lakecountries getting.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Out in the suburbs You're saying I got to move him
into Stalis.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You got to move him into some diversity, some how
the other half lives.
Yeah yeah, he's getting alittle.
He's getting a little soft.
Maybe, Takes his shoes, if hematters, if he thinks what shoes
he has on matters more than thefact that he has shoes.
I'm fucking up right, gottashow him.
(42:06):
Your theory of bringing him tothe third world country makes a
little sense yeah, no, I thinkyou're right, I did drive him
past my childhood house.
Yeah, like look at where dadnot not, not.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Not like the house I was born in, but like the house
I lived my teenage years in.
And he looked at he goes whowould want to live here?
It was great at the time.
The only thing I had to tellhim is nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
This is why I work so hard yeah, no, I think the kids
are on.
They're like naive you knowthey don't know the world.
Mistakes will be made,assumptions will be made like
their life is terrible when theyit's really fucking glorious.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
There's a point where they where you learn, where you
see so how do you, with allyour wisdom and knowledge, how
do you, how do you relate to achild that what a random kid at
his school thinks about hishaircut or his shirt doesn't
(43:13):
matter?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
you probably gotta degrade them more at home.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Man, with time I guess it's aphase your kid's in that phase
where everything's goofy andweird because he's like in his
teens right Beginning teens.
Yeah he's about to be 12 in acouple weeks.
Yeah, so he's getting into that.
Should I like?
Nah, he'll grow out of it bro.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
You think so?
Yeah, yeah, because I wasthinking about starting.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
He needs to get a lady thing going.
Probably pretty soon he's goingto be I guess that's still a
couple years off probably, oh,he's going to grow out of it, I
think, though.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about just starting to
verbally chop down his mom infront of him all the time.
That's a tactic and just lethim see how it just rolls off of
her back.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's a tactic, but I don't think that's it.
No, I mean, I don't need twopeople in counseling.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Just make it physical , push her down the stairs a
little bit, you know.
Let her see how strong you are,I think he'll grow out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
That's a teen thing where everything you got to be
cool, you got to fit in, youknow that kind of crap.
But fucking braids, dude thebraids, you can say no.
Like I remember when I was uh,in that phase I wanted to dye my
hair and my dad was like well,no like 21 no fucking way.
(44:35):
You dyed your hair and then itwas like, fine, you can dye shit
on your hair, but I wanted togo black.
At the time, I was black and mymom was like nope, you're not
going black.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I know your dad.
He doesn't like anything blackI wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't know about that.
I don't know what that was.
That's false.
I don't even know maybe hisgranddad, but uh, the the thing
about it with kids is that theythink they need to be cool and
eventually they come to realizethat nobody's fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Being yourself is cool except a one kid with
braids maybe, dude, maybe he'llstart a trend.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
I don't know, maybe it'll fit his noggin well, give
him some respect about starting,but I think you know what?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I think the braids thing will learn him the lesson,
because that'll be like whatnow the fourth or fifth
transition or transfer of like Igot to do this, I got to do
this, and the braids thing willsuck a lot and not be effective
Like new shoes.
Okay, whatever, Just changeshoes.
I just can't believe that you Gofrom short cut to long, long
(45:43):
cut.
Not so much of a big deal, butputting the braids in is going
to be a big fucking pain in theass and it's not going to be
something he's gonna be able totake out right away and it's not
gonna work oh, dude, I'm soexcited about watching him sit
in this chair.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I can't believe that tony, I can't believe that you
would consider braids over justdying hair, but but I know he
didn't ask for dying hair.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So I'm assuming no for dying hair.
I'm assuming at this point withhow much you're bringing up
dying hair?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
that one of your children has dyed hair currently
?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
No, no, no, okay, no, you're just obsessively
bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Because it's just, it's the color hair.
I mean okay, because it's just,it's the color hair.
I mean, what the okay?
My kid died is our uh uh theend of last year dyed his hair
blue, but it was asemi-permanent, but it lasted
all summer and he kept asking meevery fucking day, when is the
blue gonna wash out?
When is it gonna?
(46:41):
When is it gonna go back to theblonde?
How do you get it blonde again?
Did you gotta stay in the sunlonger?
Dad, like jesus christ, don'tfucking dye your hair ever again
.
Then I don't fucking know.
He's semi-permanent, this shit,it's semi the.
The seven-year-old did ithimself he went to the store by
himself too and grabbed his own.
No, yeah, all the kids weredoing it and he did it and he
(47:07):
regretted it.
I let him regret it and he'snever gonna dye his hair again.
I guarantee that, cause hefucking hated it.
Is it still like?
a little blue no, no, it'stotally gone.
No, it's totally gone.
This was at the end of school,school year, so all summer, and
from now.
So, yeah, yeah, I caught it andit's all gone.
(47:27):
But again, you have to let themmake those mistakes.
So again, like you saying aboutthe braids, yeah, let him make
that mistake.
He won't do it again.
Fully plan on it.
He won't do it again.
So this is what we have to doand and this is the conclusion
of the show, I think is let kidswhat Do?
(47:49):
What the fuck you say.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I think that was the clear message of this.
No, make their own mistakes.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Let them make their own mistakes, but also guide
them in the you know.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
You can't let them make huge mistakes.
Okay, guide them.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
The closing statement is parents.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I said guide them in some ways, the closing statement
is parents, don't let your kidsbe pieces of shit.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh, I agree with that .
I agree with that.
But you have to let them maketheir own mistakes, Otherwise
you don't learn unless you makea mistake.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I based my whole life around that.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I mean I don't think kids are hearing enough.
I took you into this world andI can take you out.
I don't think kids hearing areenough of that.
That's just crazy.
Government should let us beatour kids again, or at least
threaten to beat them.
Threaten, not actually do it.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
What about teachers?
Letting teachers beat the kidsagain?
They should have more poweryeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
None of the kids ever get sent home from school.
You don't get sent homeunsuspended, depends what they
do.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I don't think kids are that crazy anymore, just
kidding I know that's.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I mean false.
Two kids got suspended.
Well, one.
One kid in chase's grade gotexpelled.
Sounds like a suburb what doyou do?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
what do you do under the table?
I can't even I can't go toschool.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah, I can't even say on this show what this kid
did.
Yes, you can tell us.
Tell us, no one knows who thekid is.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Fucking tell us, I won't lead us out of this
fucking shithole.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Thanks, for joining us.
It was a fucking blast.
Just you know, take care ofyour kids, alright.
Thanks for joining us.
It was a fucking blast.
Just you know, take care ofyour kids Like your kid is not
the best kid in the world andyou gotta let him know that.
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