September 17, 2025 • 30 mins
Three dads navigate the murky waters of online child safety, debating the real dangers of popular platforms like Roblox and why one father made the drastic decision to ban it from his children's devices.
• Shocking discovery of predatory behavior on Roblox, a platform with 65 million concurrent players
• Chris Hansen's involvement in exposing online predators targeting children through gaming platforms
• The vulnerability of children to manipulation by adults with malicious intent
• Comparison between digital spaces like Roblox and physical locations like Walmart as potential danger zones
• How parents can have honest conversations with children about online safety without causing paranoia
• One father's approach to explaining to his children why they're susceptible to manipulation despite being smart for their age
• The challenge of balancing protection with preparing children for the real world
• Different parenting approaches to monitoring children's online activities
• The rise of YouTube channels dedicated to catching online predators
• How algorithms can lead parents down rabbit holes of fear about digital dangers
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Piggy banks all over the house.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Give me another one.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
No, you have piggy banks all over the house.
And what did you say?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
They're using old vases.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
No, you said, when they get full, they just throw
them away.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This doesn't mean shit to me, Dad.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Because it's full.
Wait what I missed it too.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I said that Tony's kids have six piggy banks each,
and then Tony's like they don'tgive a shit when they get, or
when they get full, they throwthem away.
He figured, oh, because they'reused up, tony's carrying his
garbage to the end of the street.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And it's super heavy.
I had to borrow $20 for mykid's piggy bank.
Uh-oh, I put it back.
She didn't even know If sheever hears this.
I borrowed 20 bucks.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I had no cash, you gave it back.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I gave it right back the only time I ever do that.
That girl probably has a countin her head.
If I took it, she'd know forsure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
When I get delivery, I steal singles from my kids.
This is my tip.
Here's my tip you don't paythem back.
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You know, I pay him back with a dime every fucking
time you pay him back in Robux.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My son spends money on Roblox.
He's just spent like $500.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Roblox had like 35 or 65 million concurrent players
last weekend or something likethat.
I heard it was like a record.
All those people playing thatone game at the same time.
They must be making so muchmoney, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I heard something about them being closed down or
getting shut down.
Why, I don't know.
My son was telling me that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I last Saturday, when I saw my kids, I made both of
them delete Roblox off theirdevices.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Why it's such an awesome creative game.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's a predator spot.
All the predators look foryoung kids and want to hang out?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh, give me a break, girl.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Hey, they come out with those box dicks and like
hey, look at this swingingaround.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So do you understand right now that Chris Hansen is
involved?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's inside Roblox pretending to be someone who's
offering you a warm cookie.
Please sit down, we'll be rightback.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So I want to tell you that I'm.
Chris Hansen from Dateline yougot to be kidding me, no Dead
serious, chris Hansen Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Hansen Dateline.
You gotta be kidding me.
No, dead serious, chris Hansen.
Chris Hansen, I believe it'shappening.
People are sickos.
Yeah, roblox.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
They have Roblox Predator.
You know how.
They have just random people onYouTube busting dudes, trying
to get under their skits.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They're busting people on Roblox for clicks now.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yes, and I actually you don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
90% of this shit's set up by the person trying to
run the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, you know how many , like you just said, 65, what,
how many million were on there?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, but you can't take your kids to a county park
with that mentality though,Because that shit goes.
The sickos are everywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You're there.
You're not there in Robloxworld.
Roblox world, they're bythemselves.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, not really Not, if you don't let them play by
themselves.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So you watch them as they're playing.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't watch her directly, but I know exactly
what's going on.
You don't.
You don't know what's going onA pretty good portion of it,
yeah Okay, oh yeah, you're naive, you're naive Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm going to be the first to admit that I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Just every once in a while I play with her sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I hear something off to the side like Motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's not allowed to go into most of the games that
are public servers like that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You mean when you're around.
She can't go in.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, I will grant you that I don't know.
I think we're watching it.
I think Kate's watching it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Where is she?
Who watches her in the summer?
Your wife doesn't work, right?
She's a teacher.
She's a teacher, so she doesn'twork, so is she watching the
Roblox.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
As much as she's watching what I'm doing during
the day.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I feel like your wife's building fences.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
She's digging ditches .
No, I have no doubt that therisk is there.
I'm not going to pretend it'snot and I'm not gonna uh limit
my kid from playing this game,though this game's phenomenal
for children, for fordevelopment of like engineering
skills.
I mean, there's a lot ofbologna on it too.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But you don't really build a lot of stuff in roblox.
That's minecraft.
Roblox is more of like a littleworld of games, and so you
don't watch them no, it's allgames because I fucking see my
conflating the two games also.
Totally minecraft is the wordconflating.
I've used that a couple times,without actually I don't know
for sure.
You know it sounded good to me.
It was like.
It was like what is there?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'm mixing the two together it sounded you know, I
don know.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So I just look at it like this Would I let my kid,
like I don't know, go into aWalmart by himself, just hang
out there all day, wait, wait,wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're equating the online world to a Walmart store
which.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Walmart, it doesn't matter which one dude, a Walmart
in rural America Half of thegovernment.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Tif programs for low-income homes require
proximity to a Walmart or asuper center.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Similar items yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
If you want to build.
Why do you think they're?
Remember when there wasn't aWalmart in that shopping center
by your apartment?
There there was one.
There was a different store, itwas like a whatever.
But Walmart's taken overeverywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm not saying that's directly why, but then, all of
a sudden, it's Walmart and thenit's Quick Trip.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I don't really go to Walmart and I just assume that
most Walmarts are filled withall the child molesters.
I mean, am I wrong?
Are they hiding?
Are they hiding All?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
right, let's dig into this after this break.
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Speaker 2 (06:06):
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stories.
So anyway, I just imaginewalmart is like 80 child
predators.
It might be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
In my head I think it's actually higher when I
watch the predator shit onyoutube, that's usually where
they meet up.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, this is walmart parking lot of the walmart.
I think you can also.
I do think you can campovernight in Walmart parking
lots.
I do believe I've even done itbefore.
I think you can do it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure In a whole bunch of them Was
there a concert Like did it bana van?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I met someone halfway , yeah, Did it ban a top of
Walmart building.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I met someone halfway and left my van there and we
drove in from there Cool Intheir truck.
But yeah, go on, so drivemolesting Walmart.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I just imagine the children's section at Walmart is
just filled with old men justlooking for children.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What would you call Target, then?
What's Target, target's?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
like where all the Predators' wives shop.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's where they send their wives and they go to be
Predator-ing.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I just have.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
All right, honey, you're 60 bucks.
You go to the Target.
I got to grab something.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I have to return something.
As soon as a child Predator'swife says I'm going to Target,
he's like, all right, I'll be at.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Walmart.
I'm pretty to Target.
He's like all right, I'll be atWalmart.
I'm pretty sure Target doesn'thave what I'm looking for.
I know Walmart does, so I'llmeet you in 20.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't know, but like I, just if I know that
there's a risk of any, reallyeven my kid talking to an adult.
Like an adult that he doesn'tknow.
I don't want that.
Who wants that, I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
you're not wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, if you're an adult, a normal adult, you're
not going to go up to a kid andstart talking to them,
especially if they're alone.
You're going to be like wherethe fuck are your parents?
That's what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You're going to say where the fuck are your parents?
That's you're gonna say.
You say where the fuck yourparents are gonna be like hey,
what are you looking for?
You, gotta, I can help you findit.
So it's this, it's thisalgorithm shit.
So my kids have been likeintense on roblox, okay and uh.
So every time they're around me, that's what they're talking
about, like oh, you know thisfucking game, blah, blah, blah.
So my phone now thinks that I'msuper into roblox and now you're
the predator my whole facebookalgorithm is nothing but videos
(08:34):
no talking about child predatorson roblox and I watched, I
don't know, probably two hoursworth one day.
I just it's pretty interesting Ijust sat and watched them and
how the games a lot of the gameson there have uh, uh.
There's games that have uhbathrooms you can go into and
(08:54):
when you go into the bathroomsit's fucking naked people in
them.
And there there was onebathroom the dude was showing
like he was playing it he was anadult, I'm sure, kid predator,
um, and he was showing goinginto these bathrooms and there's
just like all these fuckingweird uh the like blocky looking
(09:15):
figures in there.
Yeah, all just having fuckingstraight orgies in the bathroom
I swear to god, I've never seenthat dude, we're talking about
it right now.
You're gonna see these videoslater today, god damn it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I should turn my phone off when we have these
podcasts and uh, and then Istarted watching.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
there was this teenager who, actually Roblox,
took legal action against himbecause he was being I don't
know what's it called predatoredby all these dudes, by all
(09:59):
these, by these dudes, and heended up getting them like three
or four of them he ended upgetting them arrested.
So that's what he was doing, solike a so now side job.
No, he is like they were justfucking coming after me and and
uh, trying to get me to do shitthat I shouldn't be doing.
And he fucking had him arrestedand then he started talking
(10:19):
about it on his channel andRoblox sent him a cease and
desist and they took legalaction against him.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.
For talking about childpredators To defame Roblox.
So Roblox didn't want, himDidn't want.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So Robloxx is gonna do that to us now basically, and
walmart defending the predatorsby saying you know you can't
fucking talk about this, I getit and uh, and then next video.
I see it's this kid workingtogether with chris hansen to
(10:54):
take down fucking predators.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And chris, I can't get over it and then he like
he's like wait, he gained a lotof weight, like this is the
older age.
Yeah, I mean, did you see himlike personally, or did you?
See roblox character.
Are you mistaking chris hansen?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
for Quinones the what would you do guy.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Is that who that is?
What would you do?
They're a different color skin,whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But then I seen a video with Chris Hansen talking
about how out of control Robloxis with child predators and he's
taking action against it andhe's taking action against it.
And then these other chicksthat run.
It was this black girl and Iseen a bunch of her videos and
(11:45):
she runs some website dedicatedto keeping your child safe on
the internet, and talking aboutall the things that roblox, uh,
basically offers your childrenwas her name predator blocks
probably, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, that'd be a perfect name, but uh but you
know I watched all this shit.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I sent a bunch of it to my wife.
Like I got a bunch of thesevideos saved, I sent them all to
her, don't save them.
And then I went.
I got home, seen my kids andI'm like I know you guys aren't
going to like this.
I'm expecting you guys to bereally upset with me, but here's
the fucking deal.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You told them why you're taking it away?
Because there's predators onthere.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Here's the best thing You're not with your kids right
now and they're probablyplaying Roblox.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So you go on.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, unless they're downloading it, creating
an account, playing it and thendeleting it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think there's an invisible Roblox that you can
download.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What did you tell them?
Just the Roblox app.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They just change the icon.
Yeah, they just changeeverything about it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It just says school stuff.
They'll never go in there.
What did you tell them?
The reason they had to deleteit was I told them that there's
grown men who probably shop atWalmart.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Walmart, wait, do you ever shop at walmart?
No, is that because of thepredators?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
no, because it's not convenient okay I've bought one
thing off walmart in probably 25years off of walmart where you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I did it online and it was a car battery, or marine
or whatever battery yeah, Idon't go there.
We'll go there for food andsnacks and shit if we're like
going out of town or something,but besides that, yeah but I, uh
, you know this, this fuckingkid shit dude, I, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I don't know how to say this without being being
crazy and weird.
Well, the um, so don't worry, Ido that too.
I knew I knew somebody verywell who ended up being a child
predator from roblox, no wellI'm shopping I don't know.
(14:13):
I I don't know if he was justhanging out in walmart parking
lots at the little three horsecarousel that's out in front, or
if he was on video gamesfucking getting kids, or
whatever.
You know him personally I knowhim personally.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
so how personal has there been your house?
No well, that's not thatpersonal then it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I do this podcast with you nearly every Tuesday
and I don't think you've been tomy house.
Yeah, I have.
I don't think I've been toyours.
I've been to your ma's house,oh.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I invite you to my mom's house more than I do my
own.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Every time I go to your mom's house.
She's wet, though.
Because how she's wet though,because she's in the pool, but
still chris is going.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like the thing is, that's what your mom sounds like
is when this dude, when thisdude got arrested and put in
prison, like I was in fuckingshock, like I did not see it
coming and uh I mean, he's notgonna have a shirt that says I,
I like little children.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You don't fucking just know that.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But you know, I just imagine like if I were walking
through the aisle at Walmart Iwould be able to go like this
dude fucks with kids, this dude,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
This dude's a fucking creep.
You're in Walmart, okay, youdon't go in there.
But if you went to Walmart,you'd stereotype everyone in
there A predator detector?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Can I do this?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can you go into Walmart one time and I'm going
to give you a thing of stickersand I want you to put a sticker
on someone's shoulder whenthey're not looking, and then
that's a sticker that resemblesthat.
This probably is.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And then we'll ask them, and they'll tell us, and
we'll know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It'll be a great show .
The circle with the linethrough the middle and a little
picture of an infant on it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, they get it on their back.
Say what's up, buddy, right inthe back.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I'll be like hi, my name's Chris Cheposky and I'm
here with Predator Detector andyou've been detected as a
predator.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
tell us if you're a predator or not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
If I gave you 12 stickers, how long would it take
you to release all thosestickers?
Can?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
we use one of your kids' Get out of here.
Can we use one of your guys'boy?
Kids' bait, I would be, Wait,wait, I would be right about 10
of them.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Two of them I'd probably you know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You'd be 8 out of 10.
You think you're 8 out of 10?
I'd be 10 out of 12.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's like 85%.
You think you're going to bethat high, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I put the sticker on the guy.
We send Chris Hansen to hishouse to go through his computer
.
We find out what kind ofcontent this guy has.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We've asked 100 Americans and put the top five
potential predators on the board.
We could turn this into so manydifferent game shows.
It would be a great.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It'd be one of those games where everyone could do.
You could do your local pickand save this shit makes me sick
.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The way I figure about it is that I'm not going
to let my kids be at risk at aplace that's known for fucking
child predators, so I'm notletting them do Roblox.
I'm not letting them go toWalmart.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I appreciate what you're doing to try to limit the
risk, but you got to explain tothem what's going on, you got
to send them out in the world.
You kind of got to.
I think so, but you got to also.
You have to tell them what thehell's going on, so that that's
not they can look out.
For you know, they might have agood predator detector then too
(17:48):
.
Yeah, you know what I mean tony.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's the same thing as like back in the day, like if
some guy comes up to you whenthere wasn't computers, there
wasn't phones.
It's like hey, I got, I gotsome butterscotch candies.
You want to come in my truck?
Your kid is smart enough to sayno.
And if he's not, like in roblox, to get like some weirdo saying
some weird stuff, like send mepictures or give me your address
(18:12):
then it is weird in roblox thatthey're doing fake orgies and
shit like that is, so that'shalf senator, his sinister.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So there was a another thing, um, they probably
think they're doing fake orgiesand shit like that, so that's
half senator, his sinister.
So there was a another thing, umthey probably think they're not
doing anything wrong and theythink it's funny yeah, so there
there was another thing where,uh, a 10 year old was playing
with an adult and, uh, they madea bet before the game, whoever,
(18:40):
whoever lost the game andobviously the adult was at a big
advantage because he could readand whatnot um, that the loser
had to fucking kill themselvesand the 10 year old killed
himself okay, I think you gotpretty deep into the algorithm
of this shit.
It got pretty deep.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm going to tell you on the other side there's none
of that shit on my time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I guess now there will be.
And this sounds like I'm makingit up, but I explained to my
kids.
I'm like, look, I said, here'sthe thing.
You guys hear this story andyou're like, well, that's dumb,
Like I would never do that rightI said but logan logan, my
kid's about to be.
my youngest is about to be, uh,seven years old and my oldest is
(19:31):
12 and I'm like, I'm like,here's the thing, I'm like you
guys are really fucking stupid.
And I told him like I gothonest.
I told him I'm like you guysare really fucking stupid.
And I told him like I gothonest.
I told him that I'm like youguys are really stupid.
And I'm like, and here's thething You're very smart for your
age, but compared to an adult,you guys are very, very stupid.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The conniving, I know what you're saying.
Now they can trick you intogave him.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I gave him an example .
I said, look, I'm a grown-up,I'm married, I have children, I
have a house payment, I have acar payment, I have a business.
I'm running stuff like that.
If my friend told me my haircutlooks stupid, I would say okay
and I would move on.
I and I said to chase, I'm likeyour friend said your haircut
(20:23):
was stupid and you went intolike this deep depression where
you needed to change your wholefucking hair.
I'm like when somebody doesn'tlike you at school, uh it's,
it's like the end all be all ofyour mood, but like this stuff
really affects you and that'swhy kids um, you know kids have
(20:47):
like this high rate of suicidein in, uh in proportion to their
like social media use, likewhat they consider nowadays
being bullied on the internet,and and the way it affects these
kids, like if I was bullied onthe internet and and the way it
affects these kids, like if Iwas bullied on the internet,
like.
So I made a video one time, um,and I kind of made it knowing
(21:10):
that it might gain a littletraction, because it was
something that was you werebullying your kids on video.
No, no, no.
Like I made a video what's upfucker on video?
No, no, no.
Like I made a video, what's upfucker play so short.
And I made it.
Uh, it was a work video but Imade it so that it would kind of
gain like a little bit ofcontroversy, and what I was
doing, hoping that people wouldwatch it, it went.
(21:34):
I started getting comments, uh,from this one specific group,
because I kind of facebookstalked them.
Um, this group out of, fucking,uh, alberta, canada, the quick
trip people and uh, quick tripfeud.
I use this piece of cardboardas like a template for something
.
And uh, I got a comment onthere that said, uh, why don't
(21:59):
you take that piece of cardboardyou made for this and use it to
kill your whole fucking family?
And like, as a grown adult, Iget that comment and I'm just
like, who gives a shit?
Like I thought it was hilarious, sure, but a kid is going to
take that a lot differently likeI.
(22:21):
Just, kids are easier to trick,they're easier to fucking talk
into stuff, they're easier likewhen I, when I went through cub
scouts and I had to take all theuh child protection training
because apparently boy scoutsreally had an issue at one time.
They were talking about signsthat a kid's being abused and
(22:46):
grooming a kid for abuse by youknow they talked about.
Usually, if a kid's beingabused, it's by somebody who's
very close to them, sure, andthey have their trust and this
is why they don't tell peopleand this and that, and I'm just
like there's enough fucking riskin the world.
(23:07):
I don't need to be.
Let my kids, especially at theages they are, play games where
there's no fucking issues aboutfair enough.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I I'm not here to convince you to tell your kids
they can play or be okay with it, but and look, man, I did this
shit to my kids in front oftheir friends at our.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It was at our campground.
So they're they're little bestfriends there who also play
roblox, roblox or whatever it'scalled.
You did some communityparenting instead of just family
parenting, and I I told thegirls I'm like yo I'm not your
parent, like it's up to yourparent what they want to do with
you guys, I'm like I'm justletting you know what I know and
(23:48):
what my kids are doing andtheir parents let them stay on
it let me see your, let me hearyour roblox, uh, education spell
.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Roblox r-.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
R-O-B-L-U-X.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, is it U?
I thought it was O-X.
It might be, I don't know.
I thought you were going tospell blocks as in B-L-O-C-K-S.
No, okay, all right.
Well then, yeah, you know whatyou're talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well, your kids are probably better off for it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You're probably not going to be able to avoid but
you're, you're reducing the risk, but they're just gonna find a
different game, go play madden,there's that shit in madden too,
I'm sure people talking shit tothe kids oh, I'm sure there's
the same thing you're talkingabout, except for no, chris
hansen, it's one one millionthas popular to play madden as it
(24:38):
is to play roblox.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So there's probably one, one million.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You gotta look at the amount of issues, and there's
one one millionth of the amountof problem you don't look at it
as like roblox.
Roblox is so popular right nowand so many young kids play it
that let's just say I was in themarket to be a predator and I
was looking for a fucking youngchild.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, maybe there's too much competition, so they go
to madden.
I'm just telling you you're.
You are doing a great job oftaking out a segment of the
problem, but you're not takingyour kids out of the problem.
What you are doing good and inmy opinion, is telling them why
and having them know that thatshit happens and that they know
what to kind of look out foryeah man, because they have to
(25:21):
be able to protect themselvesobviously yeah, I mean we are a
no roblox, no walmart householdokay, I mean we're, we're half
that.
We don't do walmart, so we'regetting close to safety factor.
My safety factor is not as highas yours.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
My eye looks fucked up.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Jay goes to both Walmart and his kids play Roblox
.
How are you feeling about yourrisk level, your safety factor?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I don't want to make this longer than it is, but I'm
going to tell you right now.
My one kid, the youngest, playsroblox all the fucking time,
but he plays with his friends.
He's always with his friends.
Yeah, that's what my kid isalways playing too, but but he's
always like always fuckingplaying that he'll wake up in
the morning and go to his ipad,bring it to his bed and fucking
(26:14):
play all day long.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Put it, put it on your phone.
Put what on my phone, roblox?
No, put it on your phone.
No, pose as a child and fuckingcatfish.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Your catfish, your own kid would be a see.
If you could fucking do it,that's, it'd be a thing I don't
even really.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean, I don't talk them into cutting a locket of
his mom's hair while she'ssleeping and see if it happens
that has nothing to do with him,though.
No, just see what you can talkyour kid into on this platform
dude, that's way too weirdposing as another nine-year-old
kid way too.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, way too weird.
Tony's got a point.
It's pseudonymous, synonymousor whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'll tell you right now those guys, guys that do the
getting the predators andfucking pedophiles and catching
them in the act and meeting upwith them somewhere.
They are so famous Like theyhave so many OK.
So I listened to this one dudeand he was his.
(27:15):
To watch his unfiltered,uncensored videos is $4.50 a
month and he always rates andraves about how many he has a
month he's at like 18,000.
That's a lot of money 18.
You know how much money that isa month, somewhere around
80,000.
(27:37):
$4.
$4.
And he's raising the price$4.50.
18,000.
$4.
, $4.
And he's raising the price$4.50.
$18,000.
$7.84.
$81,000 a month.
And that's not being paid fromYouTube reviews, and so you
don't think that they set theseup ever.
You think?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
they're always finding predators.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They're always catching them in the act and
they're always there to recordit, it's production quality
recordings for their.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
YouTube channels Just wait, just wait, unless they
get like cops that look fuckinglegit, real, real, that's not
impossible if you kid me.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay, yeah, I agree with that Dude.
I got an old Halloween costume.
Aside from the shorts beingreally short and the shirt being
a half shirt, it looks dead on.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
When you see the people's faces that he
interviews or catches them, it'sjust like you can tell.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No one can act that good.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
No one can act that good, and if he has this many
people acting, there's got to beone that's fucked up, one that
might not.
All of them look just like aghost.
They turn from a normal personto a pale ghost and they just
freak out.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's pretty fucked up that there's that many people
that are like that out there.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
There is too many, and there's another one, and
they're all on the platform thatyour daughter spends the
majority of her time.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Have you seen the one ?
They're all on there, accordingto Chris Hansen, have you?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
seen the predator catchers that slap dudes in the
face and punch them?
Yeah, there.
Have you seen the predatorcatchers that slap dudes in the
face and punch them?
Yeah, I've seen that.
Have you seen that guy?
I forgot his name, but when hemeets up with them he'll go.
They'll go into, like again.
He's always a walmart andthey're like, if the guy doesn't
want to talk to him, he'llstart screaming.
This guy came here to meet a 13year old girl, whatever it is
(29:18):
to get everyone's attention, andhe starts slapping the shit out
of the dude, knocking him down,kicking him when he's on the
ground, if I knew how to fight.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I would do that for sure.
There's only one way to learn.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I can't even fathom how many fucking times he's been
sued.
He's slapping him right oncamera In a Walmart.
Usually it's a Walmart, yeah,well it's.
It's a place where they'reselling electronics, so it could
be a best buy, but it lookslike a walmart see, most
stereotypes are born in truth.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't know how we got onto this yeah he's, uh,
yeah, let's, let's.
We are definitely notprofessionals.
We are definitely notprofessionals.
We are definitely not.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm taking everything I said today as fact.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay, tony's a fact-finding you are a what was
I calling it?
Predator, detector, predatordetector.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll put this out as a little special one of these
days.
Thanks for listening.
We'll listen next time when ourreal episodes come out Next
week we'll be live on Roblox.
Piggy banks all over the house.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Give me another one.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
No, you have piggy banks all over the house.
And what did you say?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
They're using old vases.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
No, you said, when they get full, they just throw
them away.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This doesn't mean shit to me, Dad.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Because it's full.
Wait what I missed it too.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I said that Tony's kids have six piggy banks each,
and then Tony's like they don'tgive a shit when they get, or
when they get full, they throwthem away.
He figured, oh, because they'reused up, tony's carrying his
garbage to the end of the street.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And it's super heavy.
I had to borrow $20 for mykid's piggy bank.
Uh-oh, I put it back.
She didn't even know If sheever hears this.
I borrowed 20 bucks.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I had no cash, you gave it back.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I gave it right back the only time I ever do that.
That girl probably has a countin her head.
If I took it, she'd know forsure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
When I get delivery, I steal singles from my kids.
This is my tip.
Here's my tip you don't paythem back.
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You know, I pay him back with a dime every fucking
time you pay him back in Robux.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My son spends money on Roblox.
He's just spent like $500.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Roblox had like 35 or 65 million concurrent players
last weekend or something likethat.
I heard it was like a record.
All those people playing thatone game at the same time.
They must be making so muchmoney, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I heard something about them being closed down or
getting shut down.
Why, I don't know.
My son was telling me that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I last Saturday, when I saw my kids, I made both of
them delete Roblox off theirdevices.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Why it's such an awesome creative game.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's a predator spot.
All the predators look foryoung kids and want to hang out?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh, give me a break, girl.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Hey, they come out with those box dicks and like
hey, look at this swingingaround.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So do you understand right now that Chris Hansen is
involved?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's inside Roblox pretending to be someone who's
offering you a warm cookie.
Please sit down, we'll be rightback.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So I want to tell you that I'm.
Chris Hansen from Dateline yougot to be kidding me, no Dead
serious, chris Hansen Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Hansen Dateline.
You gotta be kidding me.
No, dead serious, chris Hansen.
Chris Hansen, I believe it'shappening.
People are sickos.
Yeah, roblox.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
They have Roblox Predator.
You know how.
They have just random people onYouTube busting dudes, trying
to get under their skits.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They're busting people on Roblox for clicks now.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yes, and I actually you don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
90% of this shit's set up by the person trying to
run the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, you know how many , like you just said, 65, what,
how many million were on there?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, but you can't take your kids to a county park
with that mentality though,Because that shit goes.
The sickos are everywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You're there.
You're not there in Robloxworld.
Roblox world, they're bythemselves.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, not really Not, if you don't let them play by
themselves.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So you watch them as they're playing.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't watch her directly, but I know exactly
what's going on.
You don't.
You don't know what's going onA pretty good portion of it,
yeah Okay, oh yeah, you're naive, you're naive Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm going to be the first to admit that I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Just every once in a while I play with her sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I hear something off to the side like Motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's not allowed to go into most of the games that
are public servers like that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You mean when you're around.
She can't go in.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, I will grant you that I don't know.
I think we're watching it.
I think Kate's watching it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Where is she?
Who watches her in the summer?
Your wife doesn't work, right?
She's a teacher.
She's a teacher, so she doesn'twork, so is she watching the
Roblox.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
As much as she's watching what I'm doing during
the day.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I feel like your wife's building fences.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
She's digging ditches .
No, I have no doubt that therisk is there.
I'm not going to pretend it'snot and I'm not gonna uh limit
my kid from playing this game,though this game's phenomenal
for children, for fordevelopment of like engineering
skills.
I mean, there's a lot ofbologna on it too.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But you don't really build a lot of stuff in roblox.
That's minecraft.
Roblox is more of like a littleworld of games, and so you
don't watch them no, it's allgames because I fucking see my
conflating the two games also.
Totally minecraft is the wordconflating.
I've used that a couple times,without actually I don't know
for sure.
You know it sounded good to me.
It was like.
It was like what is there?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'm mixing the two together it sounded you know, I
don know.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So I just look at it like this Would I let my kid,
like I don't know, go into aWalmart by himself, just hang
out there all day, wait, wait,wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're equating the online world to a Walmart store
which.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Walmart, it doesn't matter which one dude, a Walmart
in rural America Half of thegovernment.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Tif programs for low-income homes require
proximity to a Walmart or asuper center.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Similar items yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
If you want to build.
Why do you think they're?
Remember when there wasn't aWalmart in that shopping center
by your apartment?
There there was one.
There was a different store, itwas like a whatever.
But Walmart's taken overeverywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm not saying that's directly why, but then, all of
a sudden, it's Walmart and thenit's Quick Trip.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I don't really go to Walmart and I just assume that
most Walmarts are filled withall the child molesters.
I mean, am I wrong?
Are they hiding?
Are they hiding All?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
right, let's dig into this after this break.
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So anyway, I just imaginewalmart is like 80 child
predators.
It might be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
In my head I think it's actually higher when I
watch the predator shit onyoutube, that's usually where
they meet up.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, this is walmart parking lot of the walmart.
I think you can also.
I do think you can campovernight in Walmart parking
lots.
I do believe I've even done itbefore.
I think you can do it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure In a whole bunch of them Was
there a concert Like did it bana van?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I met someone halfway , yeah, Did it ban a top of
Walmart building.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I met someone halfway and left my van there and we
drove in from there Cool Intheir truck.
But yeah, go on, so drivemolesting Walmart.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I just imagine the children's section at Walmart is
just filled with old men justlooking for children.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What would you call Target, then?
What's Target, target's?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
like where all the Predators' wives shop.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's where they send their wives and they go to be
Predator-ing.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I just have.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
All right, honey, you're 60 bucks.
You go to the Target.
I got to grab something.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I have to return something.
As soon as a child Predator'swife says I'm going to Target,
he's like, all right, I'll be at.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Walmart.
I'm pretty to Target.
He's like all right, I'll be atWalmart.
I'm pretty sure Target doesn'thave what I'm looking for.
I know Walmart does, so I'llmeet you in 20.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't know, but like I, just if I know that
there's a risk of any, reallyeven my kid talking to an adult.
Like an adult that he doesn'tknow.
I don't want that.
Who wants that, I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
you're not wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, if you're an adult, a normal adult, you're
not going to go up to a kid andstart talking to them,
especially if they're alone.
You're going to be like wherethe fuck are your parents?
That's what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You're going to say where the fuck are your parents?
That's you're gonna say.
You say where the fuck yourparents are gonna be like hey,
what are you looking for?
You, gotta, I can help you findit.
So it's this, it's thisalgorithm shit.
So my kids have been likeintense on roblox, okay and uh.
So every time they're around me, that's what they're talking
about, like oh, you know thisfucking game, blah, blah, blah.
So my phone now thinks that I'msuper into roblox and now you're
the predator my whole facebookalgorithm is nothing but videos
(08:34):
no talking about child predatorson roblox and I watched, I
don't know, probably two hoursworth one day.
I just it's pretty interesting Ijust sat and watched them and
how the games a lot of the gameson there have uh, uh.
There's games that have uhbathrooms you can go into and
(08:54):
when you go into the bathroomsit's fucking naked people in
them.
And there there was onebathroom the dude was showing
like he was playing it he was anadult, I'm sure, kid predator,
um, and he was showing goinginto these bathrooms and there's
just like all these fuckingweird uh the like blocky looking
(09:15):
figures in there.
Yeah, all just having fuckingstraight orgies in the bathroom
I swear to god, I've never seenthat dude, we're talking about
it right now.
You're gonna see these videoslater today, god damn it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I should turn my phone off when we have these
podcasts and uh, and then Istarted watching.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
there was this teenager who, actually Roblox,
took legal action against himbecause he was being I don't
know what's it called predatoredby all these dudes, by all
(09:59):
these, by these dudes, and heended up getting them like three
or four of them he ended upgetting them arrested.
So that's what he was doing, solike a so now side job.
No, he is like they were justfucking coming after me and and
uh, trying to get me to do shitthat I shouldn't be doing.
And he fucking had him arrestedand then he started talking
(10:19):
about it on his channel andRoblox sent him a cease and
desist and they took legalaction against him.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.
For talking about childpredators To defame Roblox.
So Roblox didn't want, himDidn't want.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So Robloxx is gonna do that to us now basically, and
walmart defending the predatorsby saying you know you can't
fucking talk about this, I getit and uh, and then next video.
I see it's this kid workingtogether with chris hansen to
(10:54):
take down fucking predators.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And chris, I can't get over it and then he like
he's like wait, he gained a lotof weight, like this is the
older age.
Yeah, I mean, did you see himlike personally, or did you?
See roblox character.
Are you mistaking chris hansen?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
for Quinones the what would you do guy.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Is that who that is?
What would you do?
They're a different color skin,whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But then I seen a video with Chris Hansen talking
about how out of control Robloxis with child predators and he's
taking action against it andhe's taking action against it.
And then these other chicksthat run.
It was this black girl and Iseen a bunch of her videos and
(11:45):
she runs some website dedicatedto keeping your child safe on
the internet, and talking aboutall the things that roblox, uh,
basically offers your childrenwas her name predator blocks
probably, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, that'd be a perfect name, but uh but you
know I watched all this shit.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I sent a bunch of it to my wife.
Like I got a bunch of thesevideos saved, I sent them all to
her, don't save them.
And then I went.
I got home, seen my kids andI'm like I know you guys aren't
going to like this.
I'm expecting you guys to bereally upset with me, but here's
the fucking deal.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You told them why you're taking it away?
Because there's predators onthere.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Here's the best thing You're not with your kids right
now and they're probablyplaying Roblox.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So you go on.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, unless they're downloading it, creating
an account, playing it and thendeleting it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think there's an invisible Roblox that you can
download.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What did you tell them?
Just the Roblox app.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They just change the icon.
Yeah, they just changeeverything about it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It just says school stuff.
They'll never go in there.
What did you tell them?
The reason they had to deleteit was I told them that there's
grown men who probably shop atWalmart.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Walmart, wait, do you ever shop at walmart?
No, is that because of thepredators?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
no, because it's not convenient okay I've bought one
thing off walmart in probably 25years off of walmart where you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I did it online and it was a car battery, or marine
or whatever battery yeah, Idon't go there.
We'll go there for food andsnacks and shit if we're like
going out of town or something,but besides that, yeah but I, uh
, you know this, this fuckingkid shit dude, I, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I don't know how to say this without being being
crazy and weird.
Well, the um, so don't worry, Ido that too.
I knew I knew somebody verywell who ended up being a child
predator from roblox, no wellI'm shopping I don't know.
(14:13):
I I don't know if he was justhanging out in walmart parking
lots at the little three horsecarousel that's out in front, or
if he was on video gamesfucking getting kids, or
whatever.
You know him personally I knowhim personally.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
so how personal has there been your house?
No well, that's not thatpersonal then it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I do this podcast with you nearly every Tuesday
and I don't think you've been tomy house.
Yeah, I have.
I don't think I've been toyours.
I've been to your ma's house,oh.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I invite you to my mom's house more than I do my
own.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Every time I go to your mom's house.
She's wet, though.
Because how she's wet though,because she's in the pool, but
still chris is going.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like the thing is, that's what your mom sounds like
is when this dude, when thisdude got arrested and put in
prison, like I was in fuckingshock, like I did not see it
coming and uh I mean, he's notgonna have a shirt that says I,
I like little children.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You don't fucking just know that.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But you know, I just imagine like if I were walking
through the aisle at Walmart Iwould be able to go like this
dude fucks with kids, this dude,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
This dude's a fucking creep.
You're in Walmart, okay, youdon't go in there.
But if you went to Walmart,you'd stereotype everyone in
there A predator detector?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Can I do this?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can you go into Walmart one time and I'm going
to give you a thing of stickersand I want you to put a sticker
on someone's shoulder whenthey're not looking, and then
that's a sticker that resemblesthat.
This probably is.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And then we'll ask them, and they'll tell us, and
we'll know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It'll be a great show .
The circle with the linethrough the middle and a little
picture of an infant on it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, they get it on their back.
Say what's up, buddy, right inthe back.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I'll be like hi, my name's Chris Cheposky and I'm
here with Predator Detector andyou've been detected as a
predator.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
tell us if you're a predator or not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
If I gave you 12 stickers, how long would it take
you to release all thosestickers?
Can?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
we use one of your kids' Get out of here.
Can we use one of your guys'boy?
Kids' bait, I would be, Wait,wait, I would be right about 10
of them.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Two of them I'd probably you know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You'd be 8 out of 10.
You think you're 8 out of 10?
I'd be 10 out of 12.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's like 85%.
You think you're going to bethat high, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I put the sticker on the guy.
We send Chris Hansen to hishouse to go through his computer
.
We find out what kind ofcontent this guy has.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We've asked 100 Americans and put the top five
potential predators on the board.
We could turn this into so manydifferent game shows.
It would be a great.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It'd be one of those games where everyone could do.
You could do your local pickand save this shit makes me sick
.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The way I figure about it is that I'm not going
to let my kids be at risk at aplace that's known for fucking
child predators, so I'm notletting them do Roblox.
I'm not letting them go toWalmart.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I appreciate what you're doing to try to limit the
risk, but you got to explain tothem what's going on, you got
to send them out in the world.
You kind of got to.
I think so, but you got to also.
You have to tell them what thehell's going on, so that that's
not they can look out.
For you know, they might have agood predator detector then too
(17:48):
.
Yeah, you know what I mean tony.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's the same thing as like back in the day, like if
some guy comes up to you whenthere wasn't computers, there
wasn't phones.
It's like hey, I got, I gotsome butterscotch candies.
You want to come in my truck?
Your kid is smart enough to sayno.
And if he's not, like in roblox, to get like some weirdo saying
some weird stuff, like send mepictures or give me your address
(18:12):
then it is weird in roblox thatthey're doing fake orgies and
shit like that is, so that'shalf senator, his sinister.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So there was a another thing, um, they probably
think they're doing fake orgiesand shit like that, so that's
half senator, his sinister.
So there was a another thing, umthey probably think they're not
doing anything wrong and theythink it's funny yeah, so there
there was another thing where,uh, a 10 year old was playing
with an adult and, uh, they madea bet before the game, whoever,
(18:40):
whoever lost the game andobviously the adult was at a big
advantage because he could readand whatnot um, that the loser
had to fucking kill themselvesand the 10 year old killed
himself okay, I think you gotpretty deep into the algorithm
of this shit.
It got pretty deep.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm going to tell you on the other side there's none
of that shit on my time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I guess now there will be.
And this sounds like I'm makingit up, but I explained to my
kids.
I'm like, look, I said, here'sthe thing.
You guys hear this story andyou're like, well, that's dumb,
Like I would never do that rightI said but logan logan, my
kid's about to be.
my youngest is about to be, uh,seven years old and my oldest is
(19:31):
12 and I'm like, I'm like,here's the thing, I'm like you
guys are really fucking stupid.
And I told him like I gothonest.
I told him I'm like you guysare really fucking stupid.
And I told him like I gothonest.
I told him that I'm like youguys are really stupid.
And I'm like, and here's thething You're very smart for your
age, but compared to an adult,you guys are very, very stupid.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The conniving, I know what you're saying.
Now they can trick you intogave him.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I gave him an example .
I said, look, I'm a grown-up,I'm married, I have children, I
have a house payment, I have acar payment, I have a business.
I'm running stuff like that.
If my friend told me my haircutlooks stupid, I would say okay
and I would move on.
I and I said to chase, I'm likeyour friend said your haircut
(20:23):
was stupid and you went intolike this deep depression where
you needed to change your wholefucking hair.
I'm like when somebody doesn'tlike you at school, uh it's,
it's like the end all be all ofyour mood, but like this stuff
really affects you and that'swhy kids um, you know kids have
(20:47):
like this high rate of suicidein in, uh in proportion to their
like social media use, likewhat they consider nowadays
being bullied on the internet,and and the way it affects these
kids, like if I was bullied onthe internet and and the way it
affects these kids, like if Iwas bullied on the internet,
like.
So I made a video one time, um,and I kind of made it knowing
(21:10):
that it might gain a littletraction, because it was
something that was you werebullying your kids on video.
No, no, no.
Like I made a video what's upfucker on video?
No, no, no.
Like I made a video, what's upfucker play so short.
And I made it.
Uh, it was a work video but Imade it so that it would kind of
gain like a little bit ofcontroversy, and what I was
doing, hoping that people wouldwatch it, it went.
(21:34):
I started getting comments, uh,from this one specific group,
because I kind of facebookstalked them.
Um, this group out of, fucking,uh, alberta, canada, the quick
trip people and uh, quick tripfeud.
I use this piece of cardboardas like a template for something
.
And uh, I got a comment onthere that said, uh, why don't
(21:59):
you take that piece of cardboardyou made for this and use it to
kill your whole fucking family?
And like, as a grown adult, Iget that comment and I'm just
like, who gives a shit?
Like I thought it was hilarious, sure, but a kid is going to
take that a lot differently likeI.
(22:21):
Just, kids are easier to trick,they're easier to fucking talk
into stuff, they're easier likewhen I, when I went through cub
scouts and I had to take all theuh child protection training
because apparently boy scoutsreally had an issue at one time.
They were talking about signsthat a kid's being abused and
(22:46):
grooming a kid for abuse by youknow they talked about.
Usually, if a kid's beingabused, it's by somebody who's
very close to them, sure, andthey have their trust and this
is why they don't tell peopleand this and that, and I'm just
like there's enough fucking riskin the world.
(23:07):
I don't need to be.
Let my kids, especially at theages they are, play games where
there's no fucking issues aboutfair enough.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I I'm not here to convince you to tell your kids
they can play or be okay with it, but and look, man, I did this
shit to my kids in front oftheir friends at our.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It was at our campground.
So they're they're little bestfriends there who also play
roblox, roblox or whatever it'scalled.
You did some communityparenting instead of just family
parenting, and I I told thegirls I'm like yo I'm not your
parent, like it's up to yourparent what they want to do with
you guys, I'm like I'm justletting you know what I know and
(23:48):
what my kids are doing andtheir parents let them stay on
it let me see your, let me hearyour roblox, uh, education spell
.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Roblox r-.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
R-O-B-L-U-X.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, is it U?
I thought it was O-X.
It might be, I don't know.
I thought you were going tospell blocks as in B-L-O-C-K-S.
No, okay, all right.
Well then, yeah, you know whatyou're talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well, your kids are probably better off for it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You're probably not going to be able to avoid but
you're, you're reducing the risk, but they're just gonna find a
different game, go play madden,there's that shit in madden too,
I'm sure people talking shit tothe kids oh, I'm sure there's
the same thing you're talkingabout, except for no, chris
hansen, it's one one millionthas popular to play madden as it
(24:38):
is to play roblox.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So there's probably one, one million.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You gotta look at the amount of issues, and there's
one one millionth of the amountof problem you don't look at it
as like roblox.
Roblox is so popular right nowand so many young kids play it
that let's just say I was in themarket to be a predator and I
was looking for a fucking youngchild.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, maybe there's too much competition, so they go
to madden.
I'm just telling you you're.
You are doing a great job oftaking out a segment of the
problem, but you're not takingyour kids out of the problem.
What you are doing good and inmy opinion, is telling them why
and having them know that thatshit happens and that they know
what to kind of look out foryeah man, because they have to
(25:21):
be able to protect themselvesobviously yeah, I mean we are a
no roblox, no walmart householdokay, I mean we're, we're half
that.
We don't do walmart, so we'regetting close to safety factor.
My safety factor is not as highas yours.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
My eye looks fucked up.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Jay goes to both Walmart and his kids play Roblox
.
How are you feeling about yourrisk level, your safety factor?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I don't want to make this longer than it is, but I'm
going to tell you right now.
My one kid, the youngest, playsroblox all the fucking time,
but he plays with his friends.
He's always with his friends.
Yeah, that's what my kid isalways playing too, but but he's
always like always fuckingplaying that he'll wake up in
the morning and go to his ipad,bring it to his bed and fucking
(26:14):
play all day long.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Put it, put it on your phone.
Put what on my phone, roblox?
No, put it on your phone.
No, pose as a child and fuckingcatfish.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Your catfish, your own kid would be a see.
If you could fucking do it,that's, it'd be a thing I don't
even really.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean, I don't talk them into cutting a locket of
his mom's hair while she'ssleeping and see if it happens
that has nothing to do with him,though.
No, just see what you can talkyour kid into on this platform
dude, that's way too weirdposing as another nine-year-old
kid way too.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, way too weird.
Tony's got a point.
It's pseudonymous, synonymousor whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'll tell you right now those guys, guys that do the
getting the predators andfucking pedophiles and catching
them in the act and meeting upwith them somewhere.
They are so famous Like theyhave so many OK.
So I listened to this one dudeand he was his.
(27:15):
To watch his unfiltered,uncensored videos is $4.50 a
month and he always rates andraves about how many he has a
month he's at like 18,000.
That's a lot of money 18.
You know how much money that isa month, somewhere around
80,000.
(27:37):
$4.
$4.
And he's raising the price$4.50.
18,000.
$4.
, $4.
And he's raising the price$4.50.
$18,000.
$7.84.
$81,000 a month.
And that's not being paid fromYouTube reviews, and so you
don't think that they set theseup ever.
You think?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
they're always finding predators.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They're always catching them in the act and
they're always there to recordit, it's production quality
recordings for their.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
YouTube channels Just wait, just wait, unless they
get like cops that look fuckinglegit, real, real, that's not
impossible if you kid me.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay, yeah, I agree with that Dude.
I got an old Halloween costume.
Aside from the shorts beingreally short and the shirt being
a half shirt, it looks dead on.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
When you see the people's faces that he
interviews or catches them, it'sjust like you can tell.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No one can act that good.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
No one can act that good, and if he has this many
people acting, there's got to beone that's fucked up, one that
might not.
All of them look just like aghost.
They turn from a normal personto a pale ghost and they just
freak out.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's pretty fucked up that there's that many people
that are like that out there.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
There is too many, and there's another one, and
they're all on the platform thatyour daughter spends the
majority of her time.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Have you seen the one ?
They're all on there, accordingto Chris Hansen, have you?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
seen the predator catchers that slap dudes in the
face and punch them?
Yeah, there.
Have you seen the predatorcatchers that slap dudes in the
face and punch them?
Yeah, I've seen that.
Have you seen that guy?
I forgot his name, but when hemeets up with them he'll go.
They'll go into, like again.
He's always a walmart andthey're like, if the guy doesn't
want to talk to him, he'llstart screaming.
This guy came here to meet a 13year old girl, whatever it is
(29:18):
to get everyone's attention, andhe starts slapping the shit out
of the dude, knocking him down,kicking him when he's on the
ground, if I knew how to fight.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I would do that for sure.
There's only one way to learn.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I can't even fathom how many fucking times he's been
sued.
He's slapping him right oncamera In a Walmart.
Usually it's a Walmart, yeah,well it's.
It's a place where they'reselling electronics, so it could
be a best buy, but it lookslike a walmart see, most
stereotypes are born in truth.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't know how we got onto this yeah he's, uh,
yeah, let's, let's.
We are definitely notprofessionals.
We are definitely notprofessionals.
We are definitely not.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm taking everything I said today as fact.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay, tony's a fact-finding you are a what was
I calling it?
Predator, detector, predatordetector.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll put this out as a little special one of these
days.
Thanks for listening.
We'll listen next time when ourreal episodes come out Next
week we'll be live on Roblox.
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