Alien Manipulation & Deep State Deceit (Ft. Veteran & Author Michael- M.D Selig)

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back to total disclosure. Everybody. I am Tie and
I'm your host today. Are you ready to peel back
the layers of reality with me? The kind of most
people would rather not suit. Our guest today is a
man there's not only written about the shadows walked through
the MD ceilings, best selling author, filmmaker, and the creative

(00:38):
face behind Hush, a psychological thriller that dives deep into
the alien manipulation, government deceit, and the invisible machinery that
shapes our world. Hush isn't just fiction. It's a mirror
one that reflects the paranoia, the secrecy, and control mechanisms
that many believe aren't just the stuff of fiction, but

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the back bone of our modern world, from COVID experiments
and historical cover ups to the possibility that we may
be the subjects of a grand, ongoing deception. Today we're
going to ask where does the fiction end, where does
reality start? And where is the truth? I'm Ty Roberts

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again and you're about to enter the story behind the story.
Let's welcome MD Sealy. All right, well, I'm super happy

(01:41):
to have you, am I saying I didn't that was
one of the things I forgot to ask you behind
the stage? Am I saying that?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
MD?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Selig, you are It's perfect tie, You're awesome and I'm
honored to be here. So this is really fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Usually I butcher people. I'm like, so, D, what does
that stand for? Michael?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
So for just for Michael David, Michael David.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I really like that? Is that? Is that? Like the
is that your author writing name?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, I'm just over time, like doing movies and
everything else. There's just so many Michaels in the world.
It's like, Okay, am I gonna go by m cea League?
Like what what can I do just a tiny bit
with my name to kind of make it a little
bit unique? So I thought, well, what if I just
try m D C League and I That was many
years ago, and you know, I'm I'm fine with Michael,
Mike m D Like whatever works I in the moment.

(02:33):
People change it a lot of times on set, everyone's
yelling m D if they're if they're, you know, need
me for something. Some people still say Michael and I
it just doesn't matter to me at this point in
my life. I'm like, if it's roughly a nice name,
I'm good with it, I'll probably respond.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right right right, I like it. I like it well,
so obviously, you know, here on the show, I get
into a lot about you know, so I get into UFOs, paranormal,
you know, pretty much a lot of the existential questions
that I've always had, uh, you know, since I was

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a kid, and and I think most people have. But
you know, I came from the world of Hollywood. I
came from I you know, went to film school. I
thought that that was going to be who I became, was,
you know, just someone in Hollywood and hopefully would end
up directing films and uh potentially writing, and I mean it.

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It didn't work out the exact way that I would
the way I thought, but I'm very very happy with
where I landed and what the trajectory trajectory is. So
what with that being said, can you give us a
little bit about who you are before we get into

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uh specifically hush and and what you know, what the
themes are and what the story means.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Sure, you bet, so, I'll give you a kind of
the reader's digest version. I came out of the University
of Arkansas with a history degree and then I went
right into flight training for the Marines, which means I
go through Navy flight training. All Marines go through Navy.
So I went to Pensacola, Florida and did the kind
of you know, the very first top gun where you
see Tom Cruise going through stuff. So I got to

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do all that fun stuff and then I was selected
for jets. And then at that point I went to Beville, Texas.
Of all places, I think it's now a state prison,
but it's basically just imagine flat land forever, so that
if we crash, we don't kill anybody. We might hit
a cow or something, but it's just there's just it's
endless fields everywhere around the base. And that's where you

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go through your training to fly to go out to
the carrier, because Navy flight training is all about if
you're a jet pilot, that is, you have to be
able to land on the carrier or you're going to
be taking out of flight training. So it's all a
build up. So I flew for those who were aviation buffs.
I flew the T two Buckeye as my intermediate jet trainer,

(05:09):
and then my advanced jet trainer was the A Force Skyhawk,
which is what the Blue Angels used to fly just
before the two seat F eighteens. Then I departed there,
and yeah, some really great experience. It's fun experiences. If
people want to know what the Afour Skyhawk looks like,
they can go to MDC League dot com and the
very front page is actually me sitting in front of

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the jet on one of my final flights in front
of an Afour Skyhawks. That's kind of fun. But I
got out of there and was selected to fly A
six Intruders, which is an all weather attack jet. I
went with my Squadron two Desert Storm in nineteen ninety
one and flew combat missions for forty three days. That
was the entire war, and for those who don't remember

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Operation Desert Storm, it's the first time we went into Iraq.
It was roughly two thousand sorties per twenty four hours,
so imagine B fifty two's all kinds of attack jets, fighters,
every kind of ground I shouldn't say ground, more ground
oriented like Apache helica, every kind of airship. Two thousand

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sorties per twenty four hours for forty three days. So
that was a wild experience to be in combat. And
the other thing I'll say about that is I was
also at that time. Your billets within your squadron change
over time, but at that point in time, I was
the intelligence officer for my squadron, and I was reading
top secret briefs as the war is occurring. So I'm

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flying missions, reading what top secret materials are coming into
our squadron, which is from all over the world. Some
are directed right for our squadron to learn certain things
and to you know, disseminate information, but a lot of
it is just general top secret materials that are coming
through going to other squadrons. So I'm reading those and

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then I'm after each flight or after each mission in combat,
I'm then going to the mess hall on the base,
which was on the southern tip of Bahrain, and it's
a huge base full of NATO. Every kind of NATO
jet is there, and not just jets, but a massive base.
Let's put it that Expeditionary Airfield in nineteen ninety one.

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It was aircraft from all over. And so I'm going
into the mess hall, which is just just imagine a
huge Costco size warehouse type thing, and it's just got
one gigantic CNN TV right on the front, you know,
so we're all watching CNN, and I'm just going, Wow,
this is the third element that I'm experiencing here because

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I'm flying combat missions and I know what I'm attacking.
I'm watching CNN and they're saying, well, this is kind
of going on here, but that wasn't what I was
experiencing so much. And I'm reading the top secret stuff
and I'm I'm just getting a sense like, Wow, this
is all three completely different you and I. I'm sure
we'll circle back to that. But I left the military

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after eight years. That's one tour for a pilot. Because
they spend a lot of money on you. You have to
stay in for eight years. It's not a quick three
year tour. So I got out. I went right into
LA where I went into film and television. I wrote,
I've been writing screenplays forever, so I'm a storyteller at heart.
That's my most favorite thing is story. And had a
show on Netflix and Showtime called Southern Justice. I have

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a current sci fi pilot on Amazon Prime called The
gun Runner Billy Kane, And that's kind of how I
came to writing the book. Is I just thought, as
I started to get more behind the alien curtain, I realized, Wow,
there's a lot for me to hear, to delve into.
So three years later, you're now seeing Hush.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
And I love that name. Now for me, it invokes
for me, it invokes I'm not sure sure if you're
familiar with the Batman story Hush, but it invokes this
like this, this feeling. And that's why when I UH,
when I when I read, when I read what I

(09:08):
could uh and lead up to this, UH, I was
pretty enthralled with how immersive the storytelling began, or or
or how it hooked me right from the beginning. And
I think what comes across, at least UH from what
I was able to read, is the your heart comes

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through the the words, and I could I feel, I
felt everything. So again you said you're you were always
a storyteller? It did? Did the military inform your writing?
Or did it? Does it? Did it supplement? Did you
ever see anything while you were in the air, while

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you were in combat missions? Did anything ever pop out
at you and and lead you down this path? Or
was it just something that you came across?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So if your question is did it lead me toward
the alien question or the kind of other actuality that
I thought was occurring? The answer is yes. If you're
asking about is that what makes you write a book?
I think for all storytellers, and I come from a

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background of writing screenplays, so it's kind of show, don't
tell in a screenplay, but in any story. My opinion,
if you want to be you know, if you're really
committed to your writing, is everything that you do in
your life, if you learn to fly, or if you
learn to juggle or whatever, that's going to inform your writing.

(10:42):
And for me, I'm an intense hardcore researcher because I
have to. It doesn't matter whether I'm writing a love
story or a story about aliens or in this case,
Hush is about your covert history from about the forties forwards.
So it's all of the events like Roswell that I
never really believed happened, but I started getting into them

(11:05):
and then I started to realize, oh my goodness, I've
been hoodwinked. I have been deceived for my entire lifetime.
So as that kind of I call it the five
stages a grief as you're going through it, right because
you realize, wow, this stings. Why am I mad? I'm
mad because I've been deceived well and then you go

(11:28):
through the acknowledgment, and then you go through I mean,
it's just literally the five stages of grief. And anybody
who's I think like you, Tyler, anybody who is come
to an AHA moment where you're like, dang, I just
never believed until now about that particular thing. You kind
of go through it, you just are like, how could

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I have not you know, how could I have not known?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah? And some people like for some people like me,
we have an experience that shatters that reality in an instant, right,
So for any experience er out there. Uh. And and
you know, for people who haven't seen a UFO or

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something paranormal like in their actual daily life and their
operating and you're operating on you know, the stories that
that have been told, the the lore and the history.
I give a lot of respect to people like that
who haven't seen something and are operating on this like this.

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I I know, because so many people that I consider
trustworthy are saying that there's something. It's it's very easy
for me, having seen what I've seen, to to believe
there's something out there, because you know, it it was

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right above me. It was pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, please please do tell because I love the readers
that I just version. There's so many hosts that I
speak with that I can't you know, I can't know
everybody's past. So give me, yeah, give me if you
don't mind. Just the quick readers, I just version of
your big of a big thing that really made an
adjustment for you in your life.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
All right, So this is to preface this story. I
really do want to talk about you, of course, sure,
but I think it really does inform I do come
from a military family. I grew up in the nine
to eleven era, right, I'm thirty two. I grew up
right next to a Hansom Air Force Base, and so

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I knew what flew and what didn't fly. I was
very familiar with aviation. It was something I was very
interested in as well. And right up here you'll see
my mother, her little urn and her she plays a
big story, a big part in my story. Because so
the only reason I was home it was, I don't know,

(14:00):
it is a weekday school, she asked me. She did
this thing every once in a while where she would
be like, hey, you want to stay home from school?
Because she was a mom. She was at home mom,
and she just wanted someone to hang out with. Yeah,
I drew the good straw that day, and she asked me, Hey,

(14:20):
do you want to stay home? And of course I
said yes, And I remember, I remember this so vividly.
Remember I remember watching Regis and Kelly. Regis and Kelly
was on every single day at nine a m. Eastern.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's awesome. It's like a moment in your life where
Regis and Kelly suddenly has meaning.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes. Absolutely, That's why I was so offended when Michael
Strang became the PM. I'm just kidding. But so she
asked me to stay home. And this is remember this
is before all this stuff, the technology, you know, So
I had we had this thing. I ended up, you know,

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I was. I got bored. So I was outside. I
was waiting for the kids to get home from school.
There was nobody around to hang out with, to play with,
so I was. I had a tennis ball and we
had a very steep roof, so very inclined. So I
would throw a tennis ball up to the top and
let it roll hit the gutter and it would pop

(15:22):
off the gutter and then it was kind of like
a way you could I had a very long house
so you could like throw it and play catch with
yourself fun. I'm mid throw and I'm about eleven years old.
I don't really have much like again, there's no there's
not too many walls that have been built up yet.
Right mid throw, I'm looking up because I'm throwing, so

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I'm looking. I'm my aim is up and mid throw,
out of nowhere silently this gun metal gray. And I
am colorblind, so it was either gun metal gray or
it was a very dark color that you know, had

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a metallicy matt feel to it, tree top level, oscillating
but also moving forward at a snail's pace. So came
It came from behind me, and I'm looking up at
it now right and it's oscillating and moving slowly over

(16:31):
my house, going east to west, so it's it's round
and by all I've at that point, I had never
seen anything like this. If there was, if there was
words on this thing, I would have been able to
make them out.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's how close.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
No sound, no anything, just just my internal thoughts playing
like very loudly, like what is this? What am I seeing?
And then it gets to the point where it comes
over my house and I'm locked in on this thing like,

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and I chase it. I run. My house is long
and my yard was long as well, so I had
to run around. So if this is the house, I
had to run around to get to the back right.
Rural town, rural, rural okay, okay, Bill Rickham, Massachusetts for
anyone who. Okay, suburb of Boston, about thirty five minutes

(17:37):
away from Boston. And uh but very very like very
rural and it's its nature.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay. Cool.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So this thing is making no noise. I chase it
behind the house and by the time I get to
the to the backyard, it's gone. Now I don't know.
I can't say for sure whether it took off or
it just was out of my sight at that point.
But then I run all the way around the house.

(18:08):
I'm looking, and I run into the house and I
tell my mom, Mom, and she's like, so instead of
telling me I saw a balloon or I didn't see
anything at all, she didn't force a worldview on me.
She said, son, you saw a UFO And I was like,
what the fuck is the UFO? What what is that?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And uh, Well, she.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Brought me to the library and I remember being handed
Whitley Streeber's communion and from from there, Yeah, from the
from there it was often I was always the existential one.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And what was your impression of how she knew that
you saw a UFO? Did she look out the kitchen window?
She was inside the house, so how did how did
she just confirm it so quickly? Did she ever tell
you that you had missing time?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
And like that's another thing?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, okay, I'm just wondering if if there was, if
there was, did she give you a hint, like, sweetheart,
this is the first time you told me this, and
it's been two hours since you've been out playing ball
instead of three minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Right, So I was just wondering if any.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Of that there is. There is an element there is,
and it's something I have I people have listened to
the show. I've heard me tell this story. I have
never told this part. So I can't remember anything mm
hmm from the event occurring to two. It's hard to

(19:44):
tell because I don't know if it's missing time. I
just I remember the event. I remember read Just and Kelly,
I remember being asked to stay home, but I don't
remember anything else.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, so you know you're you're you're in a perfect
situation that if you ever feel comfortable, you can go
to you know, VET, a couple of hypnotherapists, right, and
you can do HQQT or however you say at h
how do you say that the HQQT. Yeah, the regression. Yeah,

(20:16):
and you know, you can take a little journey and
see if there's anything there for you, because then you
can really get some information and you might find some
interesting stuff with your mom as well.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well, here's I want to hear something else. So this
is another crazy thing. So I had strayed very far
from the path I told you before. I was always
so in high school, in middle school, I was always
very existential. I was always asking, I was always asking
the questions of you know, because I graduated in twenty eleven.

(20:48):
The year was the world was supposed to end the
year after I graduated, So you know we're all talking
about that.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
We're all sure.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I had two friends, Jesse and Eric, that really like
they they really introduced me to a lot of like
the the more interesting stuff, like the real real stuff,
like the actual Mayan long form calendar, long count calendar. Yeah,
and they they put pieces to me death together for me.

(21:19):
But I was always very existential. I was always the
kid who's smoking a joint at the party in the corner,
talking about you know, who are we? Why are we here?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah? Yeah, questions.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
So but I end up straying very far from my path.
I I want to go to film school. I get
really heavy into drinking. I end up working at a
place with people that I hate. I hate everything I'm doing.

(21:52):
And then and then twenty twenty rolls around and my
mom's diagnosed with breast cancer, and wow, she I have
to I'm now forced to come home. I'm forced I
and the world was on pause, and I don't want
to make this all about me, but we're you know.

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But I think it does inform why I do this,
because I was in So I'm in the room. I'm
fast forwarding a little bit. But so twenty twenty she became,
she's diagnosed with breast cancer. By twenty twenty one, she's dead.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Her death date, I'm sorry to hear that. I know
that was tough.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, thank thank you. It's her death date is four
three two one. And I only say that because I
it was almost like her last way of pushing me
back on the path that I needed to be on
because in the room. I was in the room when

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she passed away, and I I'll skip a little bit
of the story because I think I've a million times here.
I saw an orb in the room, and I saw
it leave the room, and then when I looked back,
my mom was gone. You know, when someone's alive, when
someone's soul is with them, And I look up, I

(23:16):
see this thing cross my field of vision, and by
the time I look back at her, she's no longer there,
and that moment, total disclosure is born. And I haven't
stopped since. So it was almost like her last way
of like saying, you know what you you found podcasting,
you love it, You're sober, you've been sober, You're you're

(23:40):
you're happy, You're just not doing exactly the right thing.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Here's a push that's so cool. And and the reality is,
you know, she's still here with you. I mean, we're
just energy, We're loved. Before we come into this little avatar,
we have our little passage here in the avatar. The
avatar dies, but we don't. So she's still in room.
You know, she's everything with you. She was the orb,
but she's also.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
You know, in my opinion, Stephen Bato.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, those moments are just so critical for your life
to realize, like, you know, I needed to step up,
and she was calling me on the carpet to say, hey,
you're the one. You have all this juice and you
have everything you need to do this and really help
you know, Sophia or some people call it gaya evolve

(24:31):
and and your voice needs to be out there. So
it was pretty That's a pretty cool experience, I think.
And now you can have some fun doing some regression
therapy and see if you get to you can certainly
speak to her. I know that for sure, because she's
available to you at all time. Yeah, and then also
in the regression therapy, you may find like, holy cow,

(24:51):
I wasn't just running around the house. I was on
a ship. You may find wild that you may not.
But a lot of times, like all the thousands of
accounts that I've feels like that are out there.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You just.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
There may be something there for you. So that'd be
kind of fun if you ever decided to do that. Well.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, and my mom, my mom was My mom was awesome.
She and and for anyone who's a fan of like
uh little Little if every shot that I've ever every
camera shot, She'll always be in it somewhere, right, So
it's this is a little easter egg. I don't think

(25:31):
I've ever actually said it, but every shot that the
podcast has ever had, she's in it. So she's in
it somewhere, and she might be hidden like that, or
she might be Do I have another angle? Oh no,
that angle doesn't show it. But she's up there. So
for me, she's she's she is what she created, this

(25:53):
show that she put, she sent me back down the
path of searching for truth, and that led me to
being in the right spot as long as I, too
chose to do the next right thing. I ended up
being in the right place at the right time to
allow for someone like Bob Sallas, who was a nuclear

(26:14):
nuclear launch controller at Malmstrom for the nineteen sixty seven shutdown.
I was able to get him in with Nancy Mace
after the hearing in twenty twenty four so he could, finally,
after fifty years brief a sitting member of Congress. I've been,
you know, I could go. Once you start looking at synchronicity,

(26:37):
I have a synchronicity journal because I have so many
things happen to me that that are like that that
I write them down now and then when you look back,
it's like it's telling you a story. It's an overarching message.
So that's why I am so immersed in this stuff
because I've seen it with my own eyes, I've felt

(26:59):
it with my heart, with like every fiber of my being.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, it's so great. That makes you the perfect, the perfect.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's why I say I'm really respectful of people who
haven't seen things or experience that like I have, because
to operate on that kind of faith, yeah, I mean
it's got to be hard.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean your type of experience. I just can't
hear you. Well, you can't hear me right now? Check tests.
Are you not hearing me? Can you hear me? Tyler? Hello,
I'm hearing me. Are you hearing me? You're hearing me.
Tyler is suddenly not hearing me, and he's frozen. So, Tyler,

(27:46):
if you can hear me, your your screen froze.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I hear a little technical difficulty.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Okay, I can hear you again now and you froze
for about.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Fifteen Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Hear you? I can hear you just fine. Yeah, And
and my assistant here.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Now you're coming through. It's it's definitely on me, it's
definitely on my side.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, I think you're good. You're back in action now
just a slight frozen. Know you're good.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right now, You're fine, let me refresh year. Look, my
mom was coming to say I.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It might have been. Yeah, on my side, everything's working,
your your stream is working, so everything seems solid. You're
back now. I can see you moving. See you're good.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
My mom came by and said, hay, you want.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
To just have a little fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
But so yeah, so when I say that, you know,
I've I have tremendous respect for people who are operating
without a knowing. I have some tremendous respect for that.
I really do. So with that being said, that's my
There's a lot more to it. Of course, we could
go into it and really like you know, you and

(29:12):
I talk about it one day. But getting back to you, So,
from what you're saying, well, the genesis of haush it was.
Was it born out of just fascination with UFO lore
in the government.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, it was more. It was more about I just
had a sense that the strings were being pulled from
above our government, from above our military, even in nineteen
ninety one, I just from the top secret briefs that
I was reading, I just thought, there is an entire
parallel actuality happening to what my squadron is doing and

(29:50):
to what is being reported on the news. There's just
something else happening. All I knew at the time is
that I had a sense that I wasn't reading or
I just had a sense that there had to be
something behind the curtain, and so that it kind of
kicked off back then. But over the years, certainly just

(30:13):
in writing stories and reading about you know, people having
alien encounters and this, that and the other, just like yours.
Over time you just realize there's just too many events worldwide.
And then you start getting the Secret Space program and
all the folks who have come back where they've had
their mind wipe technology glitching, and they're remembering being off
world and they're having the same stories even though they

(30:36):
didn't know each other. In the Secret Space programs, they
are saying, I was on the same planet as such
and so, and I saw that ship as well, and
I didn't fly on that ship, but I was on
my own ship working for the Reptilians where I'm working
for the Nazis, and you're just like, okay, wait a minute,
These like Tony Rodrieg's of the World, and you know,

(30:58):
Rebecca Rose and on Charles Moyan and just the list
goes on and on, Emery Smith, on Guy A TV,
David Adair. Once you are reading enough of it and
watching it, you can't help but go, all right, I've
been hoodwinked. There is clearly another reality happening, and I'm
not privy to it. And then you get more upset

(31:20):
and you keep you start doing more research because humans
don't like to be deceived, right. It's it's that thing
that the I believe that the aliens fear is that
we have our capabilities, our intent, that we're coming from love,
which is an absolutely unstoppable force, and they know we're

(31:41):
about to rise within what our capabilities are. And when
we do, it's occurring now they are no longer going
to be able to exist in this energy. And I
believe they're already you know, the cabala is already starting
to fade. They're failing, and they're making one last stab
to hold control. But I believe that that our time

(32:02):
is here, and if you're coming from your heart, You're
sensing it. Sophia. So I call the earth Sophia. A
lot of people say Gaya, Sofia is just kind of
an older name that I've come across so many times.
I'm like, well, I'll just call her Sophia because I
like that name. It happens to be. Well, yeah, So

(32:23):
it's just a time where we're kind of realizing, like, wow,
something is occurring here at such a level that we're
all kind of feeling it.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right, And you know, I'm right there with you, man,
like I really am. I I wanted I wanted to ask.
So you know you brought you brought up something that's
been really on my mind a lot less lately. Uh,
this fascination. Uh. Now, you've probably heard the stories of

(32:56):
you know, the Georgia Domski's right, the the uh what's
the guy? What was the other one? Billy Meyer? And
this like this Nordic, blonde haired, blue eyed. It even
shows up in like Travis Walton's story, the Travis Walton story.

(33:20):
It shows up in so many of these like quote
unquote abductions, and it's it's got me thinking, why why
were the Nazis so obsessed with that archetype, the blonde hair,
the blue eyes. Were they trying to emulate something? And

(33:40):
is that why they wanted to eradicate the earth of
anything else aside from that? Maybe? You know? So were
they privy to something that that we didn't We don't
know like what because why this question was written down
some kind of but why why does because then we

(34:07):
talk about guys like Jeffrey Epstein and now Jeffrey Epstein, Uh,
Galline Maxwell, all of her her boys that she had around,
they were all Swedish, right, so they were all like
blonde hair, blue eyes. And there's one of them that
has gone on record and said that you know, when

(34:29):
he would shower in the in the facility, uh, he'd
oftentime like he'd even come back and the hair at
the in the drain would be gone. And we've we've
heard other stories about like the Epstein and what he
was actually interested in. And you know, I think what

(34:49):
the UFO community is afraid to admit is the same
people that are running the Epstein's and ditties and you
know honeypots of the world to entrap the most powerful
people are also the same people that are holding this
tech hostage from us and you know our cent I
think that's the big secret, right.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yes, And well that's certainly that's certainly part of it,
for sure. It's I mean, that's obviously that's an element
of control because if they can blackmail people who are
famous into kind of doing their bidding, then that that
certainly helps their control, right absolutely. If your question is

(35:31):
about what, because you were starting to go like, what
is your kind of assessment of the blonde haired, blue
eyed Nazis?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Is that like, why why do you think they were
so fascinated with that? Why? Why did they want Why
do you think that the Nazis were so obsessed with
you know, these magical relics, but also this blonde hair,
blue eyes alpha species or alpha race.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
If you will, So, I think so I'll answer that
in kind of two directions. So one is you mentioned
why are the Nazis so obsessed with relics? So let
me start with that one, and then I'll go to
the blonde hair, blue eyed thing. So my information tells
me that in roughly nineteen thirty eight, the Nazis were

(36:27):
kind of aware like, oh my god, we're kicking this
thing off and there's no way we can win this.
We can. They certainly had the hutspot to kick it off,
but I think on many levels they knew they's just
not a big enough country. There's just not enough. You know,
You've got America that's about to enter the war, You've
got Russia that's going to enter the war. I mean,

(36:48):
this can't end well for such a tiny country, even
though they were so amazing with their military might in
what they did. But I think they had a sense
from my research that Okay, this is not so great.
What else can we do? So what they start doing.
Mainly it's Hemmler and Todd who are at the top

(37:09):
of the Nazi hierarchy, and they are holding essentially seances
to kind of bring in the devil, to see if
the devil will help out the Nazis. What appears to
them in nineteen thirty eight, and actually a little bit
before nineteen thirty eight is a Draco reptilian. Now, if

(37:32):
you're trying to conjure the devil and you don't know
anything about Draco reptilians or anything else, and you suddenly
have a nine to fifteen foot reptilian, telepathic, psychotic looking
monster standing over you, you might, and they don't smell good.
According to everything I've researched, there are really rough smelling

(37:52):
like sewage that I'm assuming that you're going to think
I've just met the devil, and the devil is now
speaking to you about this. You have a seance. A reptilian,
a draco reptilian appears looking down at you and telepathically
has you in I mean, they're neurally engaging you. So

(38:17):
they have neural engagement capability and they basically lock you up.
So you're Hemmler at the top of the Nazi pyramid
right below Hitler. What are you going to do? You're
gonna say, yes, sir, whatever you want, Like, wow, what
in the heck? Right? So then at that moment, you know,

(38:38):
the reptilian essentially says to them, look, you're going to
lose the war, but I have some good news for you.
There's this base below the ice shelf in Antarctica, and
you guys might want to I mean, I know you
have off world aims and this is the way to
get there, and I've got some technology there for you
that will allow you to build some ships. This is
in nineteen thirty eight, right before the New schwaben Land expedition.

(39:02):
So they're essentially told, you know, if you'll work with us,
we have a few demands. We might need a few
of your humans, specifically nazis right. But the other thing
that occurs during that timeframe, and you can read about
this in the Dark Fleet. And I won't go into
the details of the Dark Fleet other than to say

(39:24):
the author talks about how the reptilians, being that they
were here long before humans even evolved on the planet,
knew we were about to evolve, knew that we were
about to step into what is occurring today, which is
us as love beings. And like I've tried to tell

(39:45):
that my message is the reason the malevolent aliens are
here breaking the prime Directive, in cahoots with the Cabal,
and in kahoots with malevolent elements of all governments, not
just our government. We have elements folks who are paid
well to keep their mouths shut. They're the ones who
get to deal with the alien traded technologies. They get

(40:08):
to hand out the military contracts for those unacknowledged special
access programs. I only say all this to say that
it's the reptilians coming here out of fear of what
humans are about to explode into, which is love and
love that the Reptilians can't even hang in the space

(40:28):
where love exists. So it's a natural for them to
go after the Nazis. And in the book The Dark
Fleet you'll read about where he talks about most likely
the Reptilians are known as genetic masterminds. As far as
scientific genetic alteration, there is a sense that a very

(40:51):
small group of the German population was genetically altered. Hence
you have the rise of the Nazis in about nineteen
thirty three, coming out of nowhere, this group that just
comes out of nowhere, depraved mindsets totally all about this
new Aryan race. And so this kind of leads into

(41:12):
the blonde question of blonde, blue eyed. It's a visual
for them to present to the populace to say, these
are the chosen ones. You have to look like us
and be like us. This is the race we're going
to grow. But you also might know that most likely
kind of like we've got mainly great humans on the

(41:33):
planet in my opinion, and then we have factions like
the Nazis, and you think, how can a faction grow
up to be so depraved that they would, you know,
murder six million people. Well, if you're genetically altered to
not have any emotion towards people who are not serving you,
then then that's how you are. It's not a function

(41:54):
of going, me as a human going, how can you
be that way? Not exactly exactly, Tyler. So now you've
got in nineteen thirty eight, a whole faction of twenty
year olds who have now grown up with genetic alteration,
and they don't him learn those guys are just known

(42:14):
to walk through concentration camps. And even von Braun, who's
creating the v ones, was a known torture and murderer
of his own crews that were building the v once.
I mean, these are not human traits. No, these are
a separate it's like a small separate faction. And having
said that, and this will be the last bit I'll

(42:36):
tell you about this, because I think I've kind of
roughly covered why they were so focused on any sacred artifacts.
They were looking for any energy to help them win
the war. Now they're told they're not going to win
the war by the Draco and they're also told, hey,
you want to go off world. I know that's what
you really want, which is what they wanted. So get

(42:57):
over to Antarctica and establish your base, which becomes Base
two eleven. That's where the first anti gravity ships are
built with Draco help. That's where Operation High Jump. When
the Americans go down to try to oust the Nazis
from that base, they are jumped by flying saucers coming
out of the ocean at incredible velocities that shoot down

(43:20):
all thirty f U cors Air fighters flying over birds flotilla.
Within ten minutes, all those corsairs are burning and heading
towards the ocean to their watery graves, and the flotilla
is suddenly turned around because birds like, what in the
world is happening? They had never never seen anything like it.

(43:40):
So I'm just saying all of that stuff occurs because
of reptilian manipulation, not only of just kind of speaking
with humans, but you've got to remember there's genetic alterations,
so that by the time they're discussing things with Himmler,
Himler is part of it. He's been most likely he

(44:02):
didn't even know it, but he's been genetically altered to
be receptive into the repillion stuff. So if you just
sit back for a second and you go, Okay, wait
a minute. If they can come to our planet, we
can't even leave our planet. Essentially, Yeah, we can leave
with the rocket once in a while. Obviously we can

(44:23):
leave with a lot more. But I'm talking about what
we all believed in nineteen thirty eight that we couldn't
depart the planet. But they arrived here from somewhere else, right,
So you're thinking about technology just to get them here.
That's lifetimes ahead of us. Now, think about this, millions
of years ahead of us. We're finding we we're finding

(44:46):
spaceships that are ten thousand to a million years old.
They're spaceships, you know, that have crash landed. So then
you start to go, okay, wait a minute. If they're
bringing that technology, what can they do to further their
goals of controlling humanity. They can just infiltrate this. They

(45:06):
can infiltrate the top folks from all countries and be
hybrids and look just like a human, except they've got
a reptilian agenda. And the way they're directing things big
pharma industry media, When you start to do the math
and just just be normal about it. If I'm going

(45:29):
to take over a planet. That's what I'm going to do.
If I can fly there from anywhere in the in
the interstellar world multiverse, then I certainly have the technology
by then to go all right, well, heck, I'll just
enter a human, I'll enter a few humans. They've done
this on supposedly that racover. Reptilians have done this on
many worlds. They've taken over many worlds.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And they don't do it by hostile takeover. They do
it from that within. So because when you do it,
when any hostile takeover I think would be obviously that's
where resistance and rebellion is born. Right, So if you
do it from within over a long period of time,
and maybe time isn't even something that that matters to

(46:14):
you because you have plenty of it, and it's you know,
we experience time in different ways and time being you know,
not linear but more like an infinity symbol, uh matrix. Right.
So if that's the case, then then why why why

(46:35):
a hostile takeover that that wouldn't even be It wouldn't
even make sense. Just you infiltrate and from it.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You're it's a velvet takeover. You're exactly right, tie and
get this, it's the perfect thing because you're perpetrating against
You're perpetrating this velvet takeover against people who don't even
believe in aliens. So they're not going to rise up

(47:03):
against aliens who are taking them over because they don't
believe there's aliens here in the first place. And that's
the crux of the hoodwink. If they can just make
it so that, oh, aliens, if you believe in those,
you're just crazy. So now you've got the human population
controlled on every level, and they can do their takeover.

(47:23):
They can start infiltrating into different human entities, into different
human bodies because they can sole steal that's part of
their technology. They can just take my soul, put it
in a beaker, infiltrate my avatar this body, and I'm
md seely talking to you, but now I suddenly have
a reptilian agenda and then the things that where you're

(47:45):
and this is how they can do it all the
way from the top and just gently massage us indefinitely
into this environment where we don't believe there's aliens, and
meanwhile there's ship's going off world because they're kahoots with
the cabal and a few humans that help them control humanity.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Do you think this is where, like like the the
stories of the past come in, you know, uh, where
like angels and demons, you know, the demons because you know,
like I saying, for instance, is the greatest trick the
devil ever Pold was convincing people he didn't exist. Right,

(48:27):
that sounds exactly like what we're talking about. Possession, taking
your soul, inhabiting your avatar. That sounds like possession. Right,
it's you, but it's not you. So through time again,
and I bring up time for a reason. We you know,
it's whether they're calling them gods, the onunaki, uh, the

(48:50):
you know, angels, demons or aliens. Do you think that
we might all be talking about the same thing, just
through different lenses.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, you're on it, right, You're completely on it. You're
you're completely on track. It's all the same thing. And
just remember, almost all stories are based on something that
someone's seen. So those ancient stories that are passed down,
it doesn't matter Bible, biblical ancient text. Generally someone has

(49:20):
had an experience where they may have seen an alien
back then that looks kind of reptilian. And if you
look at the statues around the pyramids, the Great Pyramids.
There's a lot of very reptilian looking mascots if you
want to, or gargoyles hanging out on all the corners.
And you're like, where would someone have molded that clay

(49:43):
or whatever it's molded of that figurine? Where would they've
gotten that idea from? Right? Makes sense?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Right? So aside from the aside from the because I've
had when I had Danny shean On here, he had
talk to me about multiples, multiple different races. And again
this is I kind of get back to the angels
and demons thing. It seems that that it's at least

(50:12):
being portrayed that there's multiple species that have that that
have come to Earth. Some have our interest at heart,
some don't, Some are indifferent. And you know, obviously we
need to be careful with indifference because sometimes indifference can
look like you know, Levolncy, but it's not. So do

(50:36):
you think that there are multiple races of a quote
unquote aliens here?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Absolutely, they're completely among us. So I'll give you a
kind of an example. Just think of the Earth for
a second, right, think of all the races, all the factions,
on our planet alone, there are trillions, trillions. Think about this,
of galaxies. There's a multiverse. There are trillions and trillions

(51:11):
of races. But just remember the benevolent ones that are here,
that are watching this thing play out. They won't break
the prime directive. Everyone, even aliens, have to sign contracts.
The Draco, the Maetra, the Grays all had to sign
contracts which say you won't break the prime directive. But

(51:32):
it's a ninety five to five ratio from everything that
I understand about the multiverse, ninety benevolent races and five
percent that are malevolent. And those five percent are not
only more than happy to break the prime directive to
further their aims of power and control of especially of
humans because of what we're about to become, but you

(51:56):
have to remember that they will do anything in their
pawer to further their overall control in the multiverse. I mean,
they are known as just planet conquering hordes. Now you've
got to remember about the Draco, and I want to
be clear about this. It's easy to be racist about

(52:16):
the Draco, but the Draco have been here long before humans,
and you've got to remember, just like humans have a
bad faction. Let's call them the Nazis, or let's call
them the American Mafia. There are factions within humanity where
we kind of go, that's not really who we are
as a race. That's a faction of them that right,

(52:37):
that tends to do maybe some bad things. That's what
you're dealing with with Draco telling You've got to remember
it would be racist to just say, all Draco, No,
that is a faction of what I understand to be
a very benevolent, wonderful race that has lived below, in
and around our planet long before we got here.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
So do you think that? Okay, that's very interesting because
that brings me to a question of because I've racked
my brain that probably thousands of times about why would
why would the government really want to be secret about

(53:20):
this like UFOs right then, I don't know. If it
was just UFOs in the sky, would all the secrecy
be necessary? Would they really really institute such drastic measures
to keep it from us? I don't know. I don't know.
Even the beings. That's a stretch, right, the classification and

(53:44):
the secrecy around that. There's other life, uh, you know,
I maybe, But then I start getting to the the
real meat is what I call it. So it's not
that they're classifying. It's not that they want to keep
us from knowing that UFOs exist or even that other
life exists, but maybe that this other life is partly

(54:09):
responsible for why we are even here in the first place.
And are we ready to meet our creator? Literally?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
So, so your question is that are we ready to
are we You're you're saying that it may be the
malevola aliens that created us? Is that you're is that
we're kind of.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I don't know question. Okay, yeah, I don't know. I
guess not maybe maybe not exactly a question, but more
of me pondering could the could could an alien and
quote unquote alien because alien, I think is a very
weird word, but non this other whatever, non human intelligence

(54:52):
it is that, uh, could they have played a part
in the creation of human beings and altering our genetic
makeup and essentially you know, being our god? If you will, like,
are we ready.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
To know that? Yeah? So I'll answer to the best
of my knowledge from all my research. Now you had
kind of hinted at that it might be the malevolent
aliens as our god. Are we ready to meet?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I'll just right they I'll just say this no, and
the answer is is because your love. And here's here's
my best understanding of what's occurred. And this is from
not only contact these but many sources who deal SSP
and have There's just a lot of information now which

(55:44):
you know about. But according to everything that I know,
at some point twenty one to twenty four of the
best of the benevolent alien races were essentially beakerd and
we were an experiment from And this is how the
reptiliens knew it was going to happen on Earth. They

(56:06):
knew it was going to occur here. The best of
the alien races, all of the alien races got together
at some point. This is trillions of people participating, I
shouldn't say people of alien races participating saying hey, what
could we do to create just the best of the
best of us? So we are that experiment. We come

(56:28):
from Benevolent, the best of the benevolence. And hence, when
I say when we step into who we're about to be,
our capability, our intent, the power that we're going to
bring as love which we're already bringing, it's so unstoppable
that that's why you have these malevolent races who knew

(56:49):
this was coming. Like, we need to control these guys
before they burst. How are we going to do that.
Let's drag a moon there and put a beacon in
it that kind of keeps them down into the third density.
Let's you can to infiltrate so you know your moon
is not what you think it is. And I'll say
that from many secret space program folks who've been like

(57:13):
at the Lunar Operations Command run by the CIA. There's
reptilian bases there, there's gray bases, there's harvesting facilities. It's
the dark side of the Moon. Doesn't rotate for a reason.
It's the only moon that we will ever know of
that doesn't rotate around its main planet. It's because it's
not organic. It's literally a space station. It's hollow. When

(57:37):
you have all the even the NASA stuff where they said,
well we had to drop the lower half of the
rocket and leave it at the moon, and when it
hits the Moon, you have all these ham radio operators
worldwide going, what is this sudden ringing? And because it's hollow,
it's a huge metal frame and right has been landed

(57:58):
and on has been inside of it. But many of
the Secret Space Program personnel, many of them will tell
you that's where their age regressed. That's where the mind
wipe technology is used on them for up to like
seven weeks. And all of them go through the Lunar
Operations Command at one point or another, either on their
way to Mars. And I'm saying that if we have

(58:20):
a base there, which we do, the Reptilians have had
a base there forever. The Nazis put their very first
swastika shaped base on the dark side of the Moon,
and then you just had what's his name, I believe
his name was Wolf, the sergeant major.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Who did the disclosed Carl Wolf.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And he get Carl Wolf, and he's trying to tell everybody,
I'm looking at photographs of bases in nineteen sixty six
or whenever he saw him, the backside of the moon
is covered in bases. And then he gets run over
by a tractor trailer, you know whatever, a year ago.
I'm just saying that that there is enough evidence all

(58:59):
over the place to go, Oh, there's just too many
people that have been there. It's like there's clearly a
huge operation that goes on daily. We send the TR
three B from a cord daily to the Moon. We've
had that. It's our workhorse. It's a Lockheed Martin anti
gravity ship that's been around for many years now. There's

(59:19):
flights out of Station D, which is Area fifty one.
I'm just saying that there is a lot of evidence,
and I'm coming back to your question of are we
ready to meet them? You're it, you are love, you
are the experiment, you are the thing. You are the

(59:40):
reason all of the malevolent alien races are here. They
fear you because they know what you're about to become,
which is just explosive love. They can't loiter in that space.
They're already having to depart. The cabal is failing. They're
already on the run. From what I understand, most of
the Reptilians who were are dead. They literally can't hang in.

(01:00:02):
What's happening now with Sophia literally blooming, she's turning inside out,
she's bringing her heart out to go Nope, I'm finally
gonna stand up for these humans who have been coward enough.
We're all going to rise together. And that's what's occurring.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
So the so the moon is and the moon has
always interested me. The moon just it's the most odd satellite,
if you will. We look around our even our own
solar system, and you know, whether it's Phobos or what's

(01:00:43):
the other moon around, they just they always look like potatoes,
you know, like like they have different random shapes. And
then we got our moon that perfectly eclipses, right, I
think the exact dimensions that it needs to be to
clips perfectly the Sun, you know, it's all the and

(01:01:06):
then it's the exact distance away to to you know,
all the oddities that we see, like what are the
chances cosmically given the backdrop of the universe, Like what
are the odds? I'm not saying it's zero, but it's
there is also literature that talks about a time before

(01:01:27):
the moon, So what is that? What?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
So let me be clear, it is the biggest heartbreak
for me two and this is what I talk about.
It stings for me when I realize the deception. The
moon has always been my muse. It's always been the
most wonderful thing. I've just always you know, like disappear
three days with the moon. Why not It's so wonderful,

(01:01:51):
right right? And then to realize to have Elena Denon
go to the center of the Moon where she's meeting
with people inside the metal frame, right, and so many
secret space people who have been on board the Moon
for really awful stuff that occurred to them, but have
been at the Lunar Operations Command. Everything starts there. When

(01:02:12):
you depart Earth, you go to the Moon first, generally
before you go off world to some other planet like Mars.
The Nazis have their own base there. They take a
lot of their slaves. Tony rod Rieg's was there on
the Moon, I believe before you went to series. But
my point is is that once you get enough information
about the Moon, then you have to go through again

(01:02:34):
the five stages of grief of oh, this beautiful orb
that I still see each night, right right now, I
have to go all right, it's my beautiful sun that's
reflecting off a space station. It's okay, But the Moon
has nothing to do with organic It's not real. It
wasn't there when the I mean, it's real, but it
wasn't there when the Earth arrived, when the Earth became

(01:02:56):
a planet, right, there was no Moon here that was
dragged here by the Reptilians for a reason. And it's
the same one that I just talked about. It is
literally a frequency expander for technology that they have inside
the moon that kind of attempted to keep us within

(01:03:16):
the third density. We're about to rise out of the
third density. It's where we see each other today. But
you've got to remember Nordic's working the seventh. They can
appear to you in the third. Reptilians work in the
lower fourth. They can appear to you in the third.
But we as humans, when we step into what we're
going to be, my understanding is we will be able
to go through any density we want up to, like

(01:03:38):
the thirteenth density, which those groups can't even work in.
Because of love, we will be able to rise vibrationally
to different densities where we're literally working intergalactically without an avatar, right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
And love seems to be because love, Love is unique.
Love is Some say it can hinder, but I think love,
you know, because love can also lead to I loved
my mother, right and now that now that she's now
that she's gone, and I had to watch her that

(01:04:17):
caused me a lot of pain. Right, But but love
is the only thing that seems to transcend time and space.
And and reality itself. I mean, my mom is no
longer in this physical realm, but I still love her
like the day that that like the day that she

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you know, any day that she was around, right, I
love her just as much and and if not more
now because I I spend most of my time when
I think about her missing her. Love is a very
powerful thing, but but hate is too. And that's why,
you know, I feel like, you know, when you have

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a bad day and you hit every red light, it's
because you've you know, you wake up on the wrong
side of the bed. You you you slam your foot against
the frame of the bed, and you start off with
a negative mindset, and then you hit every red light
and then you're late to work. It's because you're like

(01:05:20):
you're And then they've proven this. I've also talked about
this on the show probably many times. Ad nauseum. I
always forget to look up what university University did, but
Displace they froze water, and before they froze the water,
they spoke to it and anything that had like a
good loving connotation. The crystals would freeze in this very

(01:05:42):
beautiful fashion. And when they would speak words like hate
or anything that had a negative connotation, the crystals would freeze,
and you know, just our erratic looking ways and it
what they're what they were trying to say, and I
get us. What the what the point of it all

(01:06:03):
is is that your thought, your intent, your words, they
matter literally affect the matter around you. So you know,
when you're having a great day and everything seems to
be going right, yet every green light, it's your your
your charge. You're part of the world around you and

(01:06:24):
you influence it. And you know that before nine to eleven,
countless people had dreams about uh tower plane hitting at
the towers or some sort of variation on that. Like
why is that? I think it's because we're in tune
with our surroundings to a level that either is aftrophied

(01:06:47):
or we're rediscovering.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, and I think to your point about mindset, I'll
say something about that that I've kind of learned recently
that I think will be helpful hopefully to some is
that I have really worked hard to to step through
my day with my heart leading right, because I used
to lead everything with the head because I thought, well,

(01:07:12):
I want to really think about things and have all
the answers and the whole time, I was realizing that
the only way to kind of do this correctly to
what feels like home to me is to begin with
the heart. So here's an alternate thing that I've kind
of learned. Like, if I get up and I hit
my foot like you said, and I've just I've had

(01:07:33):
bad dreams and I'm in a what you said, a mindset,
if you can then go, yeah, I'm in a mindset.
I'm in ego. Everything's not perfect, it's not going right,
it's all red lights. If you can then go, wait
a minute, let me go to heart. Let's let's let
me drop into heart space. Let the brain just be

(01:07:53):
a decoder of this of this gigantic, untouchable, unspeakable thing
that is love that I am, that I brought, that
I am not going outside of myself for I'm it.
I'm love, not in the ego way, not you know,
prouder in that way. You're in a never so content

(01:08:16):
space because you're coming from what you are, which is love.
When you drop into that, you're not in a headspace anymore.
And the red light is like, do I really care
if I get somewhere today? Yeah, I gotta go to work,
but light. The light will change perfectly as I chose

(01:08:38):
it to change. So let me take you one step further.
You chose this as love. You chose your path. And
I'll say one last thing about your mom, which is
kind of fun, I think, and kind of awesome. You
mentioned the pain of seeing her go because you love her, right,

(01:08:58):
And you, as love came here to learn about yourself
as love, to learn to love better. That's all we're
here for. We're just where the energy of love before
this body. You chose as love, Like, I'm going to
go be a human here for a while and see
what that's like to learn more about love. I'm gonna
have experiences that are great and sad and wonderful and

(01:09:20):
magical and crazy and nuts because I need to learn
more about love, about myself as love. So you chose
exactly what occurred with your mom. And what's wild is
is even in the pain where you were just missing
her and it, we just felt like this can't be.
I mean, you know, you kind of almost question love

(01:09:43):
when you said that, when you said, you know, love
is so great, it could be so great, But you
know I went through a lot of pain, right, But
I think again, if you can step back into that,
you chose this for a lesson you as love experienced
this connection with your mom, which is still completely there.
On Your mom is still here as love and you're

(01:10:07):
still connected with her as love. But what you perhaps
needed to learn in having her disappear from her avatar
is the lesson of, oh, she didn't go anywhere nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
It's powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
The avatar went away. And that's what I got into
my headspace of oh the avatar is gone. I miss
the avatar. Sure, you miss being hugged by your mom,
I get it, same with me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Right, wow, Yeah that's deep man, right, Oh wow, I
I yeah, that's very advent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
She's always here, right, she did, She didn't leave. She
was here before.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
And I fail here. I know, And I am very
like I like to consider myself because of the couple
experiences that I've had. I like to consider myself like
a very very very skeptical believer, Like because I've seen
some pretty remarkable things. My bar for thing, you know,

(01:11:09):
my bar for for for what belief is is very high.
So you know when people tell me like these really weird,
crazy stories, and you know, it's not that I don't
believe them. It's just I can tell when someone's just
trying to tell me a story or like when they're

(01:11:29):
when they're being genuine right, And it's it's interesting. It's
interesting because we as we as like quote unquote believers.
Sometimes I have the sign right here that I want
to believe. Sometimes sometimes we do and that's what's allowed

(01:11:51):
people to come into this this space and take advantage
of people, take advantage of their want to believe. And
I think it's it's been very it's it's a very
dangerous thing to take everything at face, like take everything
as truth, because there are still bad actors in our

(01:12:11):
world right now. Like you talk about this transformation that's coming.
You know, Chris Bledsoe has talked about something very similar
in his experiences. And how how I mean, do you
know about what Chris's Chris talks about? And how does that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I know the name? Give me the reader's digest version
of what Chris is about, because I'm up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
He wrote UFO of God and he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Often okay, yeah, I did I read his book, I
should say listened to it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Yeah, so you know what I'm talking about now. So
he talks about how the lady told him, and I've
had him on the show. I introduced him at Contact
in the Desert, which is a great experience for me.
He talks about how the lady told him that when
the star, when the Star of Regulus lie in the

(01:13:05):
gaze of the Sphinx, humanity will well maybe I'm misquoting it,
but humanity will go through a change. And you know,
he's been talking about this for quite a while, and
he even found he with an astronomer. They did the
calculations and when the star of Regulus or the or

(01:13:28):
I think they called it. I think they didn't even
she didn't even name the star. She just said the
red star. And that's so, the star of Regulus is
in the gaze of the sphinx. Easter twenty twenty seven.
When did my mom die the day before Easter twenty
twenty one? What of me and Chris have in common chromes?

(01:13:49):
So I think I was meant to end up talking
to him and communicating with him. I've always felt very
but he he talks about again these angelic beings. He
definitely puts a very religious overtone on his stories and
and teach their own right, but he sees orbs of

(01:14:13):
Light and says they're angels. Do I think they're angels?
I don't know. Do I think they're non human intelligence? Yeah?
But by definition of angels and non human intelligence? So, M,
what do you think of So, because you're you're talking
about a change that we're about to go through, do
you give any merit to these these dates and predictions

(01:14:36):
that people put out there? A lot of people have
been talking about twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Well, my impression is you're in the midst of it,
So it's not a it's not a one day thing
that occurs in like, oh, suddenly we're evolved. I don't
think that's the way it works. My impression is that,
just like all other changes occur over millennium, right, this

(01:15:02):
phase could be years, it could be it could be months.
I don't think it will be within a day. But
I think what occurs if you're trying to be in
tune with your heart right now. My experience of kind
of the folks I'm in touch with is that it's
occurring right now, and you can be aware of it.

(01:15:24):
The more you drop into heart space, you will since
an evolution taking place. And the other thing that I
would say about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
My sense it already right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
The other thing I would say about a realistic view
of what's coming is, you know a lot of folks
who are kind of new to this alien space i'll
just call it the alien space or the conspiracy space
or whatever, that they realize, Wow, I may have been hoodwinked,

(01:16:01):
and there's a lot more out there than I was
ever willing tomt because I need to physically see it
to believe it. A lot of those folks who have
come into the space, and I think everybody's a part
of that to some extent. You know, there's this feeling
of like, oh, when all the flying saucers land and
the aliens come here, then you know we're welcoming to
the galactic community and we can just go with them

(01:16:23):
and everything's going to be hunky dory. I think it's
really important to understand that you're it, each one of us.
Is it? So? If alien ships come down today and
they're offering to take you off world or to their
benevolent world, this, that, and the other, think about it.

(01:16:45):
Use your heart, don't go into your head, watch them,
vet them with your heart. I don't plan to go
anywhere if a bunch of ships land today and reaches
all over the place. I might say, that's really cool,
you've got that technology, and they might be beckoning me
to come with them and say, we can show you things.
We can show you the spirit wall Er, we can

(01:17:06):
show you technologies you won't believe. I'm most likely not
gonna go anywhere. This orb is magical. And now I'll
tell you this, this is kind of the most important thing.
All of the technology that the Cabal has, all of
the technology that's out in the current multiverse, everything you

(01:17:29):
can think of, from Star Wars to Star Trek Prime,
everything that's not only an actuality, it's far beyond that.
The technologies that are available in the multiverse, the multi
dimensional beings that can move between reality, right, all of it,
all of it, Tyler is available. Now. My point is,

(01:17:54):
all of it pales in comparison to you as love.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
M what a powerful sentiment. And you're right, you're so
right about this or being magical. Far too many people
get so hung up on living their life a certain
way so they can get into heaven or the after
life or you know, this kingdom of God that they

(01:18:28):
that they've fantasized. When they they they either lack the
ability or they just can't see that we've been given
paradise already. We look around, look around. This is paradise
on the same planet that there are you know, harsh

(01:18:51):
deserts and mountainous terrain. There's planes, and there's snow capped
snow capped mountains in the same same area as as
a beautiful climate or uh not climate, a beautiful temperate climate.

(01:19:11):
Uh And you know in California you can go skiing
and swimming in the same day, right, and then you
know from Hawaii, to just look around, this is paradise.
The fact that we're here, that we exist, that conscious
you know, uh, conscious beings in life exists here. That

(01:19:34):
is the paradise. And I think people have overlooked that,
and they're so concerned with getting into this heaven that
we really don't know if it exists truly, Like that's
a gamble and I'm just not willing to gamble with that.
I'm gonna live exactly the way that I want to
now because that now is the only thing that I

(01:19:56):
know I'm promised.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Right and remember the things that you're mentioning about heaven
or out there. Once again, I'll point you back in
the direction of your power. Your Heaven is with you now.
It is who you are, right, so you can keep
looking out and going, well, maybe if I get to heaven,

(01:20:20):
how about how about you're there?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
How about you are there? Yeah, you are right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
And let me throw something else about the physical planet
that you're on. So there is many and I'll just
say you should get JP on your show. You've probably
seen him on the Michael Sola Show, Doctor Michael Solas Show.
He has been down down within the Earth. So let's
think about this for a second. The Earth is two

(01:20:47):
hundred and sixty billion cubic miles, not million billion cubic miles.
Is what fills our planet. There's plenty of room for
many gigantic civilizations. And they're there. They're down in the oceans,

(01:21:07):
they're in cavities within the Earth. We have ground penetrating radar.
You can watch Emory Smith's interview on Guya Television where
he's like, I'm working with guys and we're looking at
a canyon that's thousands of miles long below the crust
of the Earth, and there's an aquifer and there's water,

(01:21:28):
and JP is like, I'm visiting civilizations on these missions
far below the oceans. There is traffic below our oceans.
There's a reason we have an underwater National Reconnaissance Office,
not because of submarines, because of anti gravity traffic, not
only American anti gravity traffic, but tons of alien races

(01:21:52):
that operate below our oceans. You just have to step back,
read all the accounts of all the different people who
have met with the ant people. JP's one of them.
There are ample spaces within this planet that are filled

(01:22:14):
with entities much more ancient than us. There are different
dimensions that are happening. I'm just saying, you have life
from many various races all around you and in your
midst and remember the benevolent ones or even in some
of the avatars that you're considering, are absolutely human, like

(01:22:36):
perhaps your president, or perhaps the president of another country,
or perhaps your big media moguls. So just realize, like,
if they have the technology to come here, they certainly
have the technology to infiltrate our society on any level
they want, because they're trying to control what you are,

(01:22:57):
which is this unstoppable force that's coming right now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Interesting, my my editor is going to kill me about this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Interviews good that means you've had a good, interesting interview.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want to talk to
you about something that's I think that's the dumbest thing
to say in an interview. I want to talk to
you about something.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
No, but it's like a real it's a it's a
good human way of saying, I got to cover this, right,
it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
So there there there's been a story that is kind
of it's it's part of like UFO history lore, whatever
you want to call it. And it so President Eisenhower

(01:23:55):
goes to uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, also called muyick Field Sure nineteen fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Four and allegedly, you know, goes missing. Even the press
is writing up how he died and then he reappears.
They call it a dental emergency. Do you think that
that there's validity to that story? And do you think
that that he met with non human intelligence?

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Yes? On all levels. And it will be in volume
two of Hush. It's being covered. I've been covering it
for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
So can you give me about this?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Sure? What do you want to know about it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
So? What really happened? Because I'm a lot of people
have a lot of variations on the story.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Sure, what is so a three day event basically occurred
on a weekend at at the time, it was muck
Field that it became. It eventually is called Edwards nineteen
fifty four, and because Eisenhower was having not only that meeting,

(01:25:06):
but Eisenhower eventually meets with other alien representatives. And you've
got to remember that it's during nineteen fifty four that
the Majestic twelve which Truman set up, using forrestal to
set it up, which had six scientists and six military guys,
they end up signing with them eleven aliens behind Eisenhower's back.

(01:25:29):
They start doing contracts, and that's where when Eisenhower leaves
in his departing speech and he tries to tell the
world and the best way he can, I can only
tell you now I am no longer in control. Your
Congress is not in control. It's now in the hands
of the military industrial complex. But what he was really
trying to say was we are in contractual obligations with

(01:25:54):
malevolent alien groups and all of those technologies that they're
trading with us for things that I won't cover today,
that's basically humans. Those things that we're trading for are
being reverse engineered at various facilities, including S four, which
is run by the CIA and is top secret above

(01:26:15):
even the president. That's why Eisenhower couldn't even go there.
He's only up to top secret seventeen. Anyone who goes
to Area fifty one and all of these underground, deep
underground military facilities like Diego GARCIA, that's top secret eighteen
and above. So only the cabal essentially hands out through
the National Reconnaissance Office, hands out classifications that that's how

(01:26:40):
they control all of the secret stuff that's being reverse engineered.
That's how we have aliens and detentions. If you watch
Emery Smith on Guya television, he'll tell you twenty years
ago he's fifty floors down at Kirkland and he's working
next to a praying manches that's doing the operation on
an alien that they are dissecting because they're doing genetic

(01:27:04):
experiments to meld aliens with humans. This is all for
the kabal all on this planet, occurring today and has
been since the late sixties as far as I can tell,
at various deep underground military facilities. How is it funded.
Special access programs are what you see on the news,
like the B one B that's all below top secret seventeen.

(01:27:27):
Above top secret seventeen is unacknowledged special access programs. Think
Lockheed Martin, and those contracts are handed out from the
cabal through their human representatives that are most likely hybrids,
giving all of these worldwide contracts to all these companies
that for since the sixties have been reverse engineering, helping

(01:27:50):
build our space force, and all of this stuff that's
going on is all above the level of your government.
So if you're looking for you at your government, if
you're looking at the American government or any government that
you're a part of, Canadian wherever you live, if you're
looking for your government to give your disclosure, you're kind
of aiming your eyes at the wrong entity. You're not

(01:28:15):
going to get it from your government. They're not going
to open suddenly a museum of seventy years worth of
alien interactions. Go, here's all the flying saucers. We've been
reverse to engineering. We're sorry we did that. They don't
have any incentive to do that. There's no incentive. They
don't care about what humans think about their company. If
McDonald Douglas, or if you know Lockheed Martin is a

(01:28:39):
good company or not, They could care less. They're off
world with our cabal mining on other planets. I'm just
saying that all of the stuff that has been occurring
in our lifetimes with alien traded technologies, it's now so
vast that we're off world with it. Obviously, we have
a secret space program, not only for the Air Force,

(01:29:02):
but for the Navy. There's a marine secret space program,
and it's been out there in space since the early eighties.
Now forty to fifty years later. Where do you think
it is? It's beyond your imagination, Like you can think
anything you want, and the technologies that are out there
being used by citizens from our planet are far beyond

(01:29:28):
even the shows that we see created with Star Wars
and Star Trek. All of that stuff is available and
has been available to us, but we don't have access
to it. We pay for it through these unacknowledged special
access programs. It's funneled from American taxpayer money, at least
the American part of it is. All the other countries

(01:29:49):
have their money funnel too. It all goes to the
cabal for all of this reverse engineered technology, for all
this control of humanity. So I'm just saying, be careful
putting all your energy onto c SPAN and expecting your
government to step forward and go, We're now going to

(01:30:09):
open the alien museum. That's not going to happen. They
have no incentive to do that. They could care less
about humanity. They're off world, they're thinking about other planets,
they're they're they're all about power and control or just
likely Yeah it's reptilian.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Yeah, just I mean just look at look at look
in the eyes of Peter Teel when he's asked about
whether humanity should exist, and he he can't even bring
himself to say yes, just without hesitation. He like, he's
did you see that interview?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
I haven't seen that there is supposedly a reptilian or something.
I don't know, he's some form of alien or something.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
He the guy's doing so on one hand, right, he's creating,
you know, creates PayPal with elon on, then goes on
and and uh it becomes a venture capitalist and is
funding pallenteer and and and has countless defense contracts for

(01:31:14):
surveillance and and and weapons systems with our military. And
then on the same that same guy has has a
four part lecture that he's doing on the Antichrist because
he's totally not the Antichrist, right, who, like Tim Dillon

(01:31:34):
said it on Rogan, Like, why didn't anyone sit him
down and say how about no, how about no lectures
on the Antichrist? Because it makes you look crazy because
it's like, again, this is the same guy who's got
these bloodshot eyes and can't can't express any human like

(01:31:58):
if there's someone who's possessed or an alien, or like
if they're if they are in disguise, that guy's one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
So is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yeah, you've really never seen this clip.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I haven't seen that. I mean, I'm I'm I'm slightly
busy with having just finished the novel and then all
the yeah, and I don't you know, I'm not on
media at all because I'm so focused on really doing
heavy duty research to bring something in Hush. I And
I'll tell you something about Hush that I haven't told

(01:32:35):
every show, I tell you that elusive Yeah, it's I
tell Lincoln, my partner, about this. He's my He's the
one who kind of keeps me afloat with all the
different shows that I'm I'm scheduled to be on here
and he runs my publishing company. But I tell him
once in a while because it's a thing that he

(01:32:58):
now sees occurring. I wrote Hush, but in all my writing,
of all my stories and screenplays over many years, all
I can say is that Hush was directed and not
written by AI. I'm just saying that when I wrote it,

(01:33:23):
the stuff that was coming through was clearly beyond me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Means.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
So when you're reading Hush, all I can say is
I believe there's a benevolent element. It may be me,
but it's hard for me to step in as for
all of us to say, well, maybe I'm just the
conduit for All I can say is, when you're reading Hush,
you're reading what the Committee wants you to know. I

(01:33:50):
call it the Committee. But there seems to be so
much information that came through on this that I couldn't
have come up with on my own, where I'm just
saying it's been directed to give it as a gift
to humanity. That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Well, I don't think you're the first to ever say
something like that. M H like you know the muse, right,
Tesla Einstein, Mozart, Many, many people from all different walks
of life seem to me a lot of times musicians

(01:34:32):
as well. And I think that's it's it's ironic that
the root word for musician is the muse, right or amuse, mint,
the muse. It's that idea of pulling from like pulling
from the one, the source. And it's you know, as
a writer, as a musician, they say that it's you're

(01:34:55):
the vessel and the universe is working through you put
time to paper or to put music into you know,
whatever they injected into society. So this is not new, right,
this is not new. And so do you think that

(01:35:16):
the universe wrote hush in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Or I would definitely say love wrote it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah, well, I mean the universe to me, Well, let's
put it this way. The human body and the universe
came from love, not love from the universe and the
human body. I'll tell you that as an absolute. M
I'll say it again, the human body and the universe

(01:35:47):
came from love, not love from the human body and
the universe. That's an absolute. It all comes from love. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
I'm trying to pull up I really, I just I
desperately need you to see this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Now you're going to bring up the clip.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Yeah, I like that because it scares me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Man, But even before I see the clip, I'll tell
you something ty that I think is important. Remember I
told you that the cabal works both sides of the coin,
and the best job they can do is to keep
you in the mail. You of being confused, and so
if you're biting on a clip like that, they've got

(01:36:34):
you really good today. Just don't let them. Just remember,
yeah to this moment, Just remember you know what's right.
You'll know what's right, what's real, right, start with your
heart and go. Do I even need to consider this clip?
Does it matter if I can identify one person as
a reptil or not? Probably? Not? Is it just cabal

(01:36:58):
making me spend on this one entity that his eyes
are bloodshot and I'm thinking he's alien and he doesn't
say that the human race should be saved? Really, just
do you see what I'm saying? Like you're so powerful
with your show and everything else, I'm just saying, try
to And I see the clip here that the guy

(01:37:19):
is going to start speaking, right, I'm just saying that
to me. No matter what occurs with this guy speaking,
I can already tell you that it is part of
that's not Peter it's part of the hoodwink. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying be aware that when you when you
get spun off on Indy given thing like flat Earth
or anything else, exactly, that's exactly what the cabal wants

(01:37:41):
you to do. Is not focused on what's real coming
at you, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
You know, it's funny when you brought up inner Earth.
I the the podcast right before You're You was with
with John Dover, the paranormal ranger. Uh so he was
He's a part of the Navajo, and so the Navajo
Tribal Police, the tribe, the Navo tribe essentially created a

(01:38:14):
division that would investigate the paranormal along with other duties
of course. But and he told me this story last
week about how their origin story, the Navajo creation myth

(01:38:34):
was them coming through like these dimensionalities, and and it
almost but it gave me and it gave me this
idea because the way he kept saying it was like
they kept being brought up through different worlds. But could
those worlds have been actually dimensionalities like you're talking about
the these dimensions? And he said it would always feel

(01:38:56):
like the sky would open up above and then'd be
this next world and it sounds like it doesn't sound
like you're coming through dimensions. It sounds like you're coming
through the earth into you know, into the final world
where we're at the surface. So when you when you
were saying that, I was like, oh, that sounds really familiar.

(01:39:17):
And then I was like, where did you know that
came from? That? So, yeah, that was really odd tangent
but m hm, so just take a look at this
this And by the way, this guy, Peter Tiel is
also financing certain UFO content creators.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Okay, just wanted to let you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Know, right, Uh, well, yes, I don't know on that
back a lit, I think we missed it. I would
he can't answer a very very simple question. Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
You would prefer the human race to and do right?
Uh huh, you're hesitant? Well, yes, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
He looks.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
This is a long hesitation, so long hesitation. There's so
many questions in the human race survive? Yeah, what like what.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
He can't The only answer is yes, no hesitation. Right.
But he's and that's the guy that's doing a four
part series in Silicon Valley about the Antichrist, and he's
also running Pallenteer, which is arguably you know, uh, an
evil company of So just what what when you talk

(01:40:47):
about like infiltration at the top level, that's what I
think about. Okay, that's who I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I think that you know. Again, I'll just say, like,
you only have so much energy, so be aware how
much you spin off. Let's just say on that particular character,
what's occurring to you that you're spending so much time
because it feels good to say he's bad, because then

(01:41:19):
you can say, you know, he should automatically say humanity
should be and you put all this energy into like
driving at him, right, But he's not the real deal.
It's kind of like focusing your energy on Congress and going,
why aren't they telling us this? When you have to
put your sites higher and realize it's not Congress, it's
not the US government that's deceiving you. There are players

(01:41:43):
within the government that do deceive you. Oh yeah, but
there's players within every government that are being controlled from
the top, so that you have to look at the
entity above all governments. Yeah, and to remember that that
entity plays both side. So they're going to put this
guy on a podcast and get you all fired up

(01:42:04):
to the point that you bring it up with one
of your guests, And I'm just saying, ty, how it's
cool that you can say it. Well, if I got
a point to one guy that he's infiltrated in that
is a reptilian dude and he's doing all wrong. I
don't know a thing about him. My point is is
that do I need to put energy into him? Do
I really care? I mean I can.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
I can.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
I can name anybody as bad and try to defend
it on any show, right, But what is you only
get so much time on this passage in this avatar, right,
and you have this amazing show and you have all
these listeners. Are you going to spend off for an
hour on flat Earth stuff? I would say if most

(01:42:49):
of the Secret Space people that go off world look
back and go, it looks pretty darn round to me.
And that's the end of that, right. I'm just saying so,
just as we wouldn't spin off on that, perhaps be
aware now, as you're stepping into this evolution with all
of us, as you're coming into yourself as full love,

(01:43:10):
what is important in this show? What can I give
to my listeners that is driving an accurate agenda? Am
I going to spin off on flat our folks, probably not.
And just like that, I'm just saying, even with this guy,
he gives you lots of stuff to bite on and
get mad about and feel, and you feel good about

(01:43:31):
yourself because you're not the bad guy with the bad company. Really,
isn't there something else that's like way more beneficial?

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
For you and for your listeners to go, wait a minute,
you know, let's ponder that if we could figure out
how to contact some of these secret space people. Have
JP on your show, who has these experiences where he's
just going to tell you, I can only tell you
what my experiences are, and he's having below inner Earth experiences.

(01:44:03):
Have Emory Smith on your show to where he's talking
about I'm looking at ground penetrating radars showing our Earth
and it doesn't stop when it hits the target. It
keeps going. You'll find it in Hush. You'll find a
lot of these situations are covered in Hush in a
fictional story. But it may be even as hard as

(01:44:26):
it is to read Hush, because a lot of it
is dark about what's going on currently on the planet
and offworld. It may be your actual reality, not that
it's not going to get awesome as we step into
who we are. I'm just saying, we have to understand
where we are today and the intensity of who's got

(01:44:48):
the grips on our planet right now and the stuff
that's going on, so that we can understand clearly as
we step forward, as we step into our destiny as love,
because they are failing, the ones that control us now
are failing, They're disappearing, and it's kind of up to

(01:45:08):
us to go, how are we going to set this up?
Because that's what's coming. It is coming right now. Right,
it's a pretty exciting time. Not that it won't be rough,
but it's it's an exciting time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Yeah, So what do you what do you make of
the idea of uh, you know, like the idea of
Atlantis and and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
I believe I believe all I believe all of those
cities were real, and I believe my experience. Again, you
can read The Dark Fleet. That's a really great book
for and the author's name escapes me right now, but
it's an amazing book. He talks a lot about our
history with the Reptilians and how they were here before

(01:45:53):
all humanity and when Atlanta was Atlantis was here. It
was I think much larger far as I recall much
larger size humans that occupied Atlantis. But in my impression,
everything just like you said earlier, that we get in
mythical tales and this, that and the other, it's all
based on the real thing. I believe Atlantis was an

(01:46:14):
actual city and area of civilization. I believe it was
drowned at some point in the floods that were brought
on Again, you can read that about that. I don't
cover that in Hush, but in the Dark Fleet he
goes very deeply into his historical research. Is most likely
this is what occurred because of these continental plates, the

(01:46:35):
Reptilians were here, they were afraid of this group, they
flooded the area, et cetera. I mean, he kind of
goes into it pretty clearly. It felt real to me.
So I believe all of this stuff, all of the
Egyptian lore, I mean, every Sanskrit thing, I think it
all comes from something that's occurred here, and a lot

(01:46:57):
of it has to do with aliens being here on
the planet long before humans and interacting with whatever it
was here at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Interesting And isn't it interesting that, you know, because I
don't think a lot of people realize, like, what would
have happened had the dinosaurs not been wiped out? Like,
because we would not have been able to survive on
a planet that had dinosaurs, like we could not cohabitate
with with dinosaurs. We would not have survived and became

(01:47:30):
the dominant species. So what if that if let let's
just say, okay, there's a reset on the Earth. I
don't know if it happens naturally or it's a it's
a cosmic uh cleansing, you know, like the asteroid does
hit and right, but it doesn't it seem like we

(01:47:51):
if you ever think about what if that asteroid didn't hit?
What if they didn't get wiped out? What would they
have been? Would you know? Because people we talked about tillions.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Like So from what I understand, the reptilians brought the
dinosaurs with them because they needed a food source because
humans weren't here yet. Okay, now take it to the
next level. What we know now about reptilians and harvesting.
The very early deal they did with the Nazis is

(01:48:23):
we want two hundred and twenty five of your race
for food, and in exchange, we'll give you these ships
that was the very first contract. So think about that
for a second. The Nazis were willing to go right,
you want two hundred and twenty five of our best

(01:48:46):
for what and they weren't told what it was for.
And then eventually, you know, they find out, Oh my god,
they ate them. Okay, So just think about this. We
eat cow every day, we have hamburgers, we go to McDonald's.
We don't ask cows if it's okay. We terminate them
and eat them. We don't ask. Reptilians are millions and

(01:49:07):
perhaps billions of years older than us, an older race
that travels throughout the multiverse. They have to eat. They
eat meat. Humans are a good source. And on top
of that, humans in mortal danger. The body creates a drenochrome,
which in the book I call screamshit. It is the

(01:49:30):
ultimate drug in the multiverse. It is the most expensive
drug out in the trade routes. It's known well, there
are harvesting facilities on the back side of the Moon.
There are harvesting facilities throughout the Earth. It's an awful thing.
But it happens that humans are exceptionally rare in the universe,

(01:49:52):
and we are the source of that drug.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Oh wow, I've never.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
The book's tough. It'll bring up some really harsh stuff
that's in actuality now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
So that's pretty wild though, And that's but that is
kind of what I was. Uh it at least touches
on what I was, what I brought up earlier being
we need to be careful when it comes to what
is malevolent versus indifferent because again, we're not evil because
we eat cow, right, but we also don't ask them

(01:50:30):
for their permission. So there's a difference between indifference and
being truly malevolent, like we're not. We don't hate cows, no,
we don't, like we don't hate chickens. In fact, people
have chickens that love their chickens, right, but they also
eat them. So again there's this fine line where we

(01:50:52):
might see indifference as malevolence and we need to step
back and.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Right where we tell ourselves, oh, we do it and
it's it's not bad the way we do it, but
if someone eats us, then we say that's bad. But
you know, at the end of the day, each entity
has to have energy. So I mean reptilians mainly feed
on lush, you know, which is kind of the energy
of us, whether it's good lush or bad lushe. They

(01:51:20):
feed on that. If there's an eclipse and a bunch
of humans are together, going wow, that's lush. And that
is fed on by several alien races that I'm aware of.
They feed on that energy. They can literally kind of
come back to life, and without it they can die.
And that includes the reptilians, but the reptilians on the

(01:51:41):
dark side of energy also feed on when humans are
in mortal danger. Hence you have adrenochrome created. Hence you
have the Fountain of youth because you don't age if
you take adrenochrome daily comes in a little vile. You
saw it in the movie and Loathing with Johnny Depp.

(01:52:01):
It's the first time it appears on screen and he's
putting a few drops on his tongue and he's like,
this is this all? This is crazy. That's a drenochrome
that's created from humans. That's why I call it screamshit.
When humans are screaming, they secrete adrenochrome into the pineal
gland and it can be extracted, and that's where you

(01:52:24):
will find a lot of the alien abduction events where
people talk about they put a needle through my eye,
and I wouldn't remember it. I wouldn't remember it the
next day. The tragic thing is, and I won't go
into it. I'm just saying it's the most sought after

(01:52:45):
drug in the multiverse. It is traded in the trade
routes in space. It is the thing that anyone will
trade technology for, including humans. Humans will trade if they're
part of the cabal or a malevant, malevolent section of

(01:53:05):
humans will offer humans in exchange for alien technology. So
that's where you'll read in Hush. There's some dark things
that are in there. I want to be clear that
Hush is it. You will find that it ends with
you understanding our current state might not be great, but
there is a bright future ahead for us if we

(01:53:28):
choose it. But right now we're kind of in the
grips of some pretty dark stuff. We'll be fine in
the long run, but there are things happening around you
that have been happening for a long time that are
really tough to read about. But it may be your
actual reality and we need to not be afraid of.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Like that. I understand what you're saying, right is, it's hard,
but again it's it's reality, then we can't we can't
put our heads in the sand. We need to know
because what we just we need to know it's reality.
If that's reality, then we need to be able to

(01:54:14):
look out for it and to to be able to,
you know, protect against it. I don't know, do you think?
So there are these things, there's these groups that people
run like see five. I'm sure you've heard of it
where because you said when people get together and look up,
they that that's where this loose stuff comes from. When

(01:54:39):
they're when they're doing CE five and they're getting in
groups of sometimes you know, whether it's five people are
up to one hundred and two hundred, like with doctor Greer,
do they have to be careful about who they're they're
calling in?

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
My impression is you're not. You're not calling in anyone.
You're just having a human experience. But the aliens can
feed off of it. Wherever there is loosh energy anywhere
on the planet. They it's literally think of it like
it looks to them like a liquid. They can just
suck it in, so it's it's it's expunged or gorge.
What do you call it? X goorge? What's that word?

(01:55:21):
Where you, when you where you x gorge anyway. It's
like energy is just waves right going up and it
can be good on no, okay, excrete you could say
that anyway. I think someone will say exgorged, Michael, but
there is a word like it just slips me right now.
But the point is is that whenever you're you know,
if you're with your family and you're having a moment

(01:55:43):
of love, you're looking at a new baby, that's a
new addition or something. Anytime there's wonderful around you, loosh
is there. That's energy that can be fed on by
alien races who literally feed off of it, and they
can feed off of the dark energy as well that's

(01:56:06):
given off by humans, and you can't control who's going
to take that energy. It's kind of like when you're
in a group and everybody's feeling good and there's a
lot of love going around. You don't control where it goes.
You're just like, ah, I'm with my friends, my mom,
I'm with I'm in love, this is it, I'm in it,
this is killer. You don't control where it goes. It's

(01:56:27):
it's it's across the multiverse. It's not around you. It's everywhere.
You're sending out a frequency, right, so that frequency can
be picked up on and absorbed. And it is. And
the reptilians are known to feed off of loosh. Not

(01:56:47):
just the Reptilians, many alien races who are who many
of them from what I understand, are AI. There's no
there's no heart, there's no soul, but they feed. They
can somehow how that loose gives them energy, whether it's
good loose or bad lush so to speak, they can
literally thrive off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Wow. So and yeah, that that is a very that's complicated,
very complicated.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
It's my job to once in a while, Tyler bring
you something complicated that you get to know what And
the heck was he talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Well, I mean it would explain certain things. It would
explain why, you know, uh, like when people gather and
there's a power. There's a power to that, right, And
it's it's like if if if consciousness is the signal

(01:57:52):
and the brain is the receiver, and you have all
these receivers right in one area, the signal would be
very very strong coming in And could that be something
that it could be able to be manipulated or leveraged
for instance. So these are the things that I start

(01:58:13):
wondering when you talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
So let me give you an example. Let's just say
this is for fun. Let's say that an alien race
has done a contractual obligation with the Cabal and they're
coming here and they want to go. Let's just say
they want to take over the old Base two eleven
in Antarctica. They need a space away from humans where

(01:58:38):
they can be their alien, malevolent selves kind of in
a safe area, right, and they're coming to the planet.
Now for them to arrive on the planet, they need energy,
So this is what they do. They talk to the
Cabal and they say, look, put out a few years
in advance that there's going to be a moon eclipse

(01:59:02):
of the Sun. So just put that out, Okay, So
everybody gets all excited. Now this may have just happened
a few months ago, but I just want you to
consider that it's all just the idea of what I'm
trying to express here. So let's just say that humans
are like, man, there's a moon eclipse coming. The moon
is going to cover the Sun. We got to watch it.
And let's just say that millions of people get in

(01:59:25):
the right spot to watch that moon eclipse. But what
if that moon was actually the alien ship and for
them to come onto the planet, they needed Loosh to
do the final passage into the orbit of Earth and
land on Earth to take over their portion of Antarctica. Well,

(01:59:49):
if that occurred and everybody was staring up, which just
occurred not too long ago, and if everyone's staring up
and going wow, it's a moon eclipse and they're not
aware that it's not a moon. This is a cabal
driven complete hoodwink. Because the cabal is saying, yeah, come,

(02:00:10):
we'll work with you here on the planet. We want
you here, and the alien group is saying, we can't
arrive without a lot of lush, without a lot of
energy to bring us into the orbit to get us
on the planet. How would you do it? You'd do
it just like that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
That is Ah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
I'm just saying it's an example. It may not be
your actual reality, but I'm just saying that's the level
of things that you want to be looking at. Okay, Well,
make make sure that the moon eclipse from a few
months ago is accurate. Talk to Avi Love and say
avy was the moon even close to the sun really

(02:00:52):
on that day? Could you please go into that for me?
And Avy may say, damn, it wasn't a moon eclipse.
Well that one. Because now you're friends with Ave, you
can call him, just check in with him. Say Abby,
can you just read go back and do a little
calculation here, because I have some information that maybe what

(02:01:13):
occurred was a much bigger hoodwink than we know and
take a look at what occurred on the moon eclipse
day near Antarctica. There's a lot of information about South
Africa having crazy winds and crazy storms all during the

(02:01:34):
moon eclipse. Why just that area of the globe having
serious crazy waves. Could there have been alien ships arriving
below the water. I'm just saying. I'm just saying there
might be other actualities.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Happening, right well, and.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
ABVI could look up the details. He's the one that
can tell you absolutely no, the moon was in place
for moonclips and that's what covered the moon, or that's
what covered the sun. Or he might go oh dang,
oh dang, right, because it's a it's a scientific fact.
If the moon was in place to cover the Sun,

(02:02:15):
I'm just saying something else may have occurred. Okay, Okay,
that's fun. That's why I'm here, right, I gotta bring
How can he know that? Maybe the committee let me
know about that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
Okay, Well, that that being said, three I out lists
is something that and and I know it's not in
an eclipse of the moon, but this interstellar object has
got people really really riled up. Right now? What do
you think about that? What? What do you think it is?

(02:02:51):
Anything that they say it is you? Is it just
a comment and there's really nothing to it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
My impression, it's just my heart impression is that it's
an alien intelligence. Whether it's malevolent or benevolent. I haven't
put enough energy into it to sess it out. A
gut feeling tells me that it's malevolent. Okay, And that's

(02:03:19):
that's just when my when I I can drop into
my heart pretty quick. I know they're starting to get
I believe they're starting to get photographs. Well you kind
of know if it's a Reptilian ship, even if it's gigantic,
it will be triangular. So that's something to look for.
All the Reptilion ships are triangular. That's that's their that's

(02:03:39):
their calling guard interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Interesting, what so what is if there's if the veil
was dropped, if the veil, Like, if if we were
to find out everything tomorrow, let's say, yeah, what do
you think that that would that truth would would liberate us?

(02:04:03):
Or do you think it would destroy us?

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Do you mean? So rephrase the question so I understand
exactly what you're asking.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
Mm hmm. Okay, So, given what you're saying, if we
were to find out tomorrow that there are these beings
that feed off of our yeah, feed off revolution energy,
and we are part of this much more cosmic uh

(02:04:38):
cosmic ecosystem than we ever thought. Right now, we're battling
like just the fact that are we alone, right, that's
like the surface level, right to go from that to
these things feed off of our energy. If that veil
drops tomorrow, that's a very existential What is being dubbed

(02:05:01):
is chaotic disclosure. So if that were to happen, do
you think that that would liberate humans or would it
destroy us? Or both?

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
Okay, So nothing will destroy humans because human is just
the name for the physical avatar of what we are.
We're love, right, So to answer that part of it,
humanity is an absolute, unstoppable force that will survive because

(02:05:37):
what we really are is the energy of love. Right,
These are just the avatars that will come and go
for the millennia. But what we are is kind of
this unspeakable force within the multiverse. We're it. Okay, we're
kind of like a fractal of it, but we're it.
We're the thing. So that answers that part of the question.

(02:06:00):
And again I'm giving you my version of it, but
I'll just tell you there's some good stuff there for you,
all right. And then the second party of your question
was what was would humanity we're going to survive? But
what was the other part of your question?

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
I guess, I guess really what it boils down to
is if tomorrow we find out all of this right,
it's all put out there right right, what would society
move forward or would you know, would people commit would
they on alive themselves?

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
Would no? No, no, well, no, humanity will be fine. Certainly,
there's gonna be a little chaos with you know. I mean,
you have to remember that you've got the majority of
the planet is religious based, and so for those folks
to step ahead and realize, okay, wait a minute, my
religion is based on something from two thousand years ago,
and these characters that are now here arriving or that

(02:06:59):
are actual reality of us being in space for many
years and that we've been ranging ever outwards. But we're
not we don't have we're not privy to it, but
we as humans have been ranging ever outwards. Talk to
any secret space program veteran Tony rod Rizal, all the
folks who've been out there, They're like, I was there
twenty years. I was in the secret space programs for

(02:07:21):
twenty years. Remember, it's mind white technology that the Cabal
used to make a race those memories, but it's glitching.
It's not perfect. When it's amalgamated with the human system,
the mind white technology is glitching. Hence all these people
going to regression sessions going I'm having a completely different
existence on this planet at this time with these individuals

(02:07:41):
and these individual races and these spaceships, and Rebecca Roses
over here going I'm having these and it's pretty soon
they start intertwining and you're like, she's on the planet
that he's on. They're all at the Lunar command when
they're being regressed, they're all dealing with the same people
and entities. And then you realize, oh, of course, if

(02:08:02):
there's trillions of factions and people and versions of humans
on a one planet, maybe not trillions, but billions. What's
not just in our galaxy of life? What's not just
in the trillions of galaxies that we can see? What's

(02:08:23):
in the multiverse that we can't even multi dimensionally participate
in yet because we haven't stepped into who we are,
although we have access to it and we know it's there.
We know this is a multiverse. Just think how many
races are there. They're uncountable, and they're all around you

(02:08:46):
and have been.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Very very interesting. H Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
So if I'm just saying, if you do the math
and you just go, wait a minute, just on our
planet alone, we've got billions of people, We've got factions,
we've got races, so many races, Just go, wait a minute.
Just in our Solar System, We've got other planets, and
there's perhaps life on those planets, like Mars, like a

(02:09:22):
lot of life. Okay, now take it to the galactic level.
We're a dot in the trillions of stars in the galaxy.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
I will agree with you there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
Just do the mathematics, just do the probabilities. There is
so much life teeming all around you and in your planet,
so much that has already been seen by so many
Secret Space Program personnel, so many people on guy A
TV who've been working in dumbs, going, we're working with
many aliens that we are dissecting, and we're doing this

(02:09:57):
that Amory Smith is great, Just do the research that
you've already been doing and go, oh my goodness, there's
life everywhere and we're just now coming around to how
hard we've been deceived.

Speaker 1 (02:10:16):
Do you think that? Do you think that?

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
Like so.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
The time eshed Uh, I believe he is the equivalent
of like say the NASA director, but of the Israeli.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
Israeli Spacegram.

Speaker 1 (02:10:34):
Yeah, he had come out and talked about this galactic
federation and that sure Trump knows, Trump knows about it,
and the United States and you know a lot of
countries are working and and they they understand that. So
do you is that I'm assuming you're you're you're saying
that that is a true, true statement and and he

(02:10:58):
was telling the truth and he said.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
That, oh, absolutely, the galactic federation of worlds has been
known for eons now. But I'm just saying that even
for the Secret Space Program, I mean, they'll tell you
about the interplanetary corporate conglomerate on Mars that has tons
of Asians. Nazis run Mars, so to speak. The Nazis

(02:11:22):
were the first there on Aris Prime established their base
there in nineteen forty three. I'm just saying that all
of the stuff. Okay, So I'll give you an example
that works more for you. I think you saw a spaceship.
It was real. There's no doubt in your mind. You

(02:11:45):
saw a real spaceship, no doubt. Now just think about it, Ty,
That spaceship can't be human technology. I mean, it could be,
but what I'm saying is most likely because of what
it was doing. That's technology from civilizations that are millions

(02:12:09):
of years older than us. Right, because in human primitive
physical physics, you can't do that. You can't have a
ship come over you that's silent and do what Tie says,
There's no way. Okay, I'm pretending I'm the American physicist
who's Einstein. Yes, And Einstein, had he not been intimately

(02:12:30):
involved with the Aliens, would have said that's not possible.
But I'm seeing it. So I'll give you the example.
You take your iPhone, Tie, and you go back two
hundred years and you talk to the top scientists. Let's
just say it's a Tesla level guy or an Einstein
level guy, and you say, here's an iPhone. Now, give

(02:12:52):
one to your friend, and she's going to walk over there,
and you two are going to be able to talk
to each other, and that scientist is going to go
not and then it's going to occur and the scientist
is going to go, well, dang, I'll be damned. I
can talk to her. She's way over there. It's eighteen
hundred and these two little boxes allow me to talk. Now,

(02:13:16):
that's you only going back two hundred years. That's you
with an iPhone only two hundred years. Yeah, two people,
and you're telling the top American scientists at the time
that this technology is available to you right now, and
that scientists says, this can't work. It's not physically possible
in my scientific primitive human knowledge. And just step it

(02:13:41):
ahead two hundred years to right now. Right, you've got
all the top scientists now, Einstein, Oppenheimer, all those guys,
you can read it and hush. All of them were
intimately involved and had to keep their mouths shut, not
only for death threats against their families, but because all
their funding for their projects. They were warned everything for
you will be dropped and you will be debunked, and

(02:14:03):
your families can die. So you keep your mouth shut off,
your Einstein, and you're working with aliens. So how great
is that you're working with alien reverse engineering technology of
ships that the cabal has that has given military contracts.
Einstein Oppenheimer is at Roswell. I mean, I'm just saying

(02:14:23):
that these folks are going, I don't know how it works,
but this darn ship I'm staring at right here at
Roswell that has crash landed is clearly from an advanced technology,
a civilization that is perhaps millions of years older than me.
That is a ship with no It flew here silently

(02:14:46):
at above mock speeds, crash landed, and it has power
to it, but it's not connected to anything, and there's
no engine. There's nothing running that power. How does it
have power because it's got zero point energy? How did
it I'm here silently at beyond mock speeds. How can
it warp space and time? Oppenheimer's looking at the ship
going I'm clearly a primitive ape and it was the

(02:15:11):
best thing that ever happened to him because he realized,
oh my god, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
But on top of that, it's possible.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
Oh it's not just possible, it clearly happened right in
the foight, right, And he's going, Okay, so this cell
phone works. I'm taking you back to your two hundred
year example. You've given a primitive person a cell phone
and they're like, well, dang, it works. And they're scientists,
but they don't have the technology two hundred years ago
to make an iPhone. But you hold one today. And

(02:15:38):
what I'm saying to you is we are only two
hundred years from you walking back in time. Now go
a million years ahead of us, or you can think
behind us, because a civilization that's a million years older
than us, reptilians, grays, benevolent aliens, which is ninety five
percent of your multiverse. Good ones have been around for millennia.

(02:16:03):
There's ships are there's ships that s f are carbon
dated to be ten thousand years old. They have no rivets,
no seams. They're made out of a metal that is
far stronger than titanium, and yet you can lift them
with your fingers. You can have two humans on either
side of a ship and lift a thirty foot ship.
It's so light, but that tensil strength is beyond human technology.

(02:16:27):
The fact that it has a nuclear generator on board
that creates a gravity envelope around that ship that it
can fly just as fast below the ocean is above
the ocean. It can warp space and time and go
to different planets. That technology has been in the multiverse
for millennia. That's how they are able to come and go,
and now since the early early forties late nineteen thirty eight,

(02:16:53):
humans the cabal, malevolent elements of all of these governments
who are told to keep sight on about this because
if humans know that they're being manipulated, that there's aliens
kind of running the show, we're going to rebel. So
how do you keep humans who are about to grow
into what we are from rebelling. You make them believe

(02:17:13):
there's no such thing as aliens, there's no alien craft
being reverse engineered, and you do it by infiltrating. It's
like a silent takeover, perpetrated against the same people who
don't believe in aliens. It's the perfect velvet takeover of
the planet and you're experiencing it. You're in the middle

(02:17:34):
of it, so.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
I assume that you and maybe I shouldn't assume, especially
given everything that you've said. But Bob Bazaar's story.

Speaker 2 (02:17:48):
Do you believe absolutely he is. I can promise you.
He was a physicist at Los Alamos. He's on the
front cover as like an eighteen or nineteen year old
with his rocket car. He's on the front cover of
the law Salamo's paper as a physicist going about to
go to the school. And who sees that cover. The
father of the hydrogen bomb, Edward Taylor, comes to speak

(02:18:12):
at Los Alamos, is reading the paper and when Bob
Blazaar is sitting outside the lecture room waiting for Edward Teller,
and he's embarrassed. He even tells the story. Teller recognizes
him and says you're You're the one that had the
rocket car, and Teller sends Bob Lazaar to go for

(02:18:32):
an interview at this little company called EG and G,
which happens to be Station D Area fifty one, Papoose
Lake s four. Bob's working on the sport model. That
dude has never made a cent. He tells the same
story for thirty five years. I can absolutely promise you
one hundred and fifty percent. He is a physicist, interesting

(02:18:56):
and was at Los Alamos. Absolutely guarantee it. Okay, there
are certain things that I research hard, and I feel
sorry for that guy. I mean homage to Bob Blazaar.
He has been through the ringer and continues to go
through the ringer. He's he's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
And he's also an easily if you needed to discredit somebody,
he is someone you can discredit if need be, because
he doesn't he's not squeaky clean.

Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
So you mean because they brought charges of him running
a brothel or something.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Yeah, but but my point being, he was in front
of the judge and he could have just said, you
know what, I lied about it all. You know, I'm
sorry it was But but he stuck to his guns
because even the courts were having trouble pulling his educational
records and previous employment. They were running up against the

(02:19:57):
same issues as George Knapp in his team, and when
it was presented in the court, he had his chance
to kind of just step away, but he's stuck to
his guns. And yeah, he you know the brothel thing,
it's and his wife cheating on him, not knowing that

(02:20:18):
he was going where he's going at weird hours like
it brus the perfect like, Hey, if we need to,
we can pull the rug from under the sky and
we can protect ourselves as as a government.

Speaker 2 (02:20:38):
So that that's true. But you can do that with anyone,
and that's what I need one. That's what you can
always you can always find fault to put into the
into the media, to shoot someone down that you don't
want them speaking about something they just worked on. But
think about this, Just think about this for a second.
Why would anyone try to make Bob Lazar's records disappear?

(02:21:03):
Just think about it. Why would they bring him into
court on trumped up charges? Why? Why would any of
that occur? Unless he's a threat, and that's what he is.
You just don't do that. You don't. You don't debunk
somebody for years and years and years unless there's a threat.
If they're just a crazy person going, I worked on

(02:21:25):
flying saucers and you don't care about them. If you
don't care about them, do you debunk them. No, everyone's
gonna go they're totally crazy. But they know Bob Lazar
is telling the truth, and people watching Bob Blazar know
he's telling the truth. And that's when you debunk them
if you're the cabal, because you're threatened. So I think
about that with Bob Blazar.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
One of my favorite, one of my favorite speeches is
the one that Daniel in a way gave and where
he spoke about this cabal and just kind of flat
out set that there's this there's this entity that operates
outside of the law. It has its own fundraising mechanism,

(02:22:08):
it has its own army, its own navy, and its own.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Uh generally miss Yeah. The mechanism is your dollars to
your tax dollars being funneled. That's why Donald Rumsfeldt says
we have two point three trillion dollars of missing funds
unaccounted for. It's not unaccounted for, it's funneled, and it's
your cabal taking your tax dollars for deep underground military projects,

(02:22:33):
their space program everything that you're not privy to, that
you don't have access to, you've paid for right unacknowledged
special access programs from Lockheed Martin to McDonald douglas to E.
G and G that Bob Bazaar is working on. They
had to pay Bob Bazaar. Who pays it? You paid

(02:22:54):
it you don't get access to go touch the ship.
You don't get to go to S four into the
nine hangars there, you don't get to go fifty floors
down in Kirtland and see all the aliens and everything
that's being worked on. You're paying for it, right, you
don't get access to it. That's when I talk about
direct your energy and help your audience understand, because if

(02:23:17):
you keep talking about it, when humans get enough of
it where they're like I am sick of hearing every
year that trillions of dollars are unaccounted for, and then
they realize they're not unaccounted for. They're being funneled to
this group that is above our government and all other governments,
and they're working on things and using spaceships and going

(02:23:39):
into space and traveling and getting technologies that we don't
have access to, and we're paying for it. That's where
you're going to start to get the right uproar in
the right direction, not at our government, at the group
that literally wields those alien technologies right and they're first engineered.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
Versions.

Speaker 2 (02:24:03):
We paid for it, right for it. This is the
American government and every other government that gets their funds
funneled to these alien traded technologies in special acts or
unacknowledged special access programs that you and I never.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
See, right, And that's and that's a dangerous I mean
that that and you're right that could get that could
unite people because again it's you're right. It's not against
any Democrat or Republican, it really does. It transcends that,
and it's it's all of us and this other thing

(02:24:42):
that has been allowed to operate in secret, uh seemingly
without restriction, and you know it's uh, I'm sure you've heard,
uh lately about doctor Beatrice Villa Royal's work with the
pre pre spot nick transient object that seem to be
in like the monolith No or maybe I don't know,

(02:25:07):
but she she's been working with these slides and in
these slides are the pictures were taken over a period
of time from I think it was maybe someone in
the comment so someone can let me know I'm just blanking.

(02:25:28):
But it's pre SPOTNK, so pre any human space like
no like again public facing, it's before any public facing
human made satellites or space program. I think it's forty
seven to like fifty nine that era. And they're looking

(02:25:49):
in the shadow of the so the shadowy part of
the sky, and there was a series of pictures that
were taken over periods of time, so like fifty minutes
between each and what she is seeing is that there
are these objects that are in orbit, like geosynchronous orbit

(02:26:12):
with Earth, and they've been there for a long time
and she's they're seeing them on these slides. Now debunkers
are saying that it's just smudges and plate defects, but
what she's saying is she's accounted for a certain percentage
to be smudges defects and that, and that it's still happening.

(02:26:36):
And sometimes these things are lining up in straight lines, right,
so they'll they're calling them transients because in one slide
they're all flickered on, and then the next slide they're
all flickered off. And again they're looking in the Earth's shadow.
So there's the sunlight. You can't use that as an
excuse because it's the shadowy because they're looking out the

(02:27:01):
sun's on the opposite side, right, so it creates this shadow,
and that's where they're looking. And they're still finding these
these objects that are essentially out there and have been
out there for as long as at least as long
as these slides have existed, which is prior to spotneck.

(02:27:23):
So she's saying that there's metallic objects in our orbit,
and I'm I'm again, I'm probably not saying it. I'm
not a scientist, so I'm not saying it as as
smart as she as she is, But there are things
out there that shouldn't be there, and they're they're they

(02:27:45):
have evidence of it. They just submitted a peer reviewed
paper and it went through the gauntlet and then it
got rejected by this server farm of papers where papers
go to live or die. It got rejected because it
wasn't of interest. But even though it's the biggest story

(02:28:05):
in the world, right, there's these things in our in
our our our our space that shouldn't be there, and
they're saying it's not of interest. This this yeah, so yeah,
So clearly you're not familiar with with this.

Speaker 2 (02:28:27):
No, but I'll give you I'll give you a hint
of how that sounds in in kind of a bigger realm. Right,
So let's just take a primitive tribe that lives in
a jungle and there's only one highway near the jungle
and it's just the curve of the highway, just a curve.

(02:28:47):
But this primitive tribe has been in that jungle forever,
and every once in a while one of them runs
back to the tribe and said, I just saw this
thing goes by, and I'll just say it, for the
name of the sake, I think it was a car. Now,
this tribe doesn't know what a car is, right, And
this crazy person comes back to side, I swear I

(02:29:08):
saw this thing go by. I swear I did. And
now a year later, someone else in the tribe sees
on this excessively rural highway this thing go by, and
they run back and they say, I've seen this thing. Now,
if you take the tribe, let's just say that they're

(02:29:28):
in a jungle, deep in the throes of Africa. And
if you take them now on a plane, which is
going to be a big experience for one, but you
drop them next to Cape Town, South Africa, there's.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
Going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:29:45):
Thousands and thousands of cars. And all I'm saying, Tyler,
is you're in a multiverse, just our galaxy alone. You're
saying that that she has seen a car on the curve,
and you're excited about it. And what I'm trying to
say to you is, boss, what's around you the trillions

(02:30:12):
of races just in our universe, not in the multiverse.
You're standing in that forest going that just can't be.
Maybe she saw something, maybe she didn't. They're going to
debate it. Why do you even spend on it. Just
think about this, just mathematically, think about what has to

(02:30:35):
be out there, just in vehicles alone, like anti gravity
vehicles of you've seen one yourself. You saw a car
go by on the curve. But Ty, you know we
have a secret space program. You know that thousands of saucers,
itings over many years, and landings and contact events and abductions.

(02:30:59):
You can drop yourself and go. I can now go
to Melbourne and look around and go, there's thousands of cars.
There's thousands of alien craft. There are millions of alien
craft all around you all the time. In orbit around
our planet. There are benevolent aliens watching what's happening there.

(02:31:21):
There are ships in orbit around our solar system, motherships
around many solar systems. There are too many craft just
in your galaxy to count. So I'm just saying step
out for a second. You're only seeing and hearing about

(02:31:42):
the car on the curve because of research. But I
think one of the other podcasts I won't name it, it's
a big one that I was just on. They're about
to release a documentary on the Secret Space Program. They're
interviewing all the people who were in the secret Space
program for twenty years. The Secret Space program is still
going on, and these are just people who were in
it twenty years ago. In space in the eighties. You

(02:32:05):
can read Tony Rodrigg's book series Coliny Cavalier. He's in
space for the Nazis, working on one of their moons
as a slave. When you watch Tony Rodriguez on many
different interviews, the dude is just telling you. I was like,
I don't care if you believe it. This is what occurred.
My clone was taking space. I worked for these guys.

(02:32:26):
It wasn't great. I had these experiences. And then you
go to Rebecca Rose and it's the same darn story.
And then you realize all of these citizens from all
over the planet are coming forward, going I was taken,
I was cloned. My clone was on worked in the
speech specially for twenty years. My mind wipe is glitching

(02:32:47):
now that I'm sixty. I'm having vivid memories of twenty
years working for a mining company on Mars, which there's
mining companies on Mars that work for the inner corporate
interplanetary corporate conglomerate. There is so much ample evidence that

(02:33:08):
you don't have to sit in the jungle anymore and
contemplate this tie. You have seen a ship, You're rare,
you know they exist. This is just a car for you.
That might be a car that went by on the curve.
It's a real ship. When you're two, Who cares. If
you're two, you're smart enough to know that was a
real thing. I saw. Yeah, just do the mathematics tie.

(02:33:30):
If it's here, why would there only be one?

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
Right? Oh yeah, yeah right?

Speaker 2 (02:33:35):
And why would there be many in orbit around any
given Solar system or around any given planet. For whatever
their agenda is, I'm going to maybe mine that planet.
I'm going to grab a human. I'm gonna meet these
aliens over here, just like we have so much going
on in just our tiny little globe daily, all of
us agendas. I'm going to get a cup of coffee.

(02:33:56):
I'm going to go do an interaction with a corporate
conglomerate to a contract. We have millions of interactions of
humans and aliens going on just on this small orb
and they're here from all over.

Speaker 1 (02:34:11):
Yeah right, So strapolate that out.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
Don't spin on the one woman who I'm not saying
she's not right. What I'm saying is she's not only right,
it's like way beyond what she's saying. She just can't
see it and wasn't privy to it back then. And
that's the whole thing. You're in the grips of a
group that fears who you're about to be, and they're
hoodwinking you and keeping you in this mail. You of

(02:34:36):
spinning off on things like whatever it is flat Earth
or someone saying that I'm I don't want humanity to survive.
Just watch what's happening to you. Try to get out
of that mind control that wants that you love it
because your mind goes, oh, this is fun to dell
and you think there's more ships in the orbiting our planet.

(02:35:00):
It absolutely secreting.

Speaker 1 (02:35:04):
What is it called, I'm just secreting it.

Speaker 2 (02:35:09):
I'm just saying that. Just do the mathematics of of
what you've already seen as a kid. There's not just
one ship that appears to tie over the over the
many years, there's thousands and thousands of encounter encounters that
you can read about right now, with people experiencing ships,

(02:35:30):
being abducted, being taken off world Secret Space Program personnel,
her seeing blips from way back before all this. Of course,
there's probably eight blips out there and they're they're ships.
But when you look at in the context of what
you actually can know now who cares? There could be
one hundred ships that she's not seeing and they're real

(02:35:53):
because the benevolent aliens are monitoring what's occurring on this
planet since the whole experiment starts, like what is going
to happen? Because humans are rising right now, this is
an exciting time. There's a lot of information that many
races are here to watch what's happening literally in the
next few years.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
Well, I just think it's interesting that you know she's
because you know, the the UFO world community, you know,
has been has been really really adamant that we need
scientists and serious people at the helm doing work like this.
And it's ironic too because the astronomer that led Harvard Menziel,

(02:36:42):
he destroyed a bunch of these plates, and why would
he do that if there was this Why why would
he destroy all that data? If there was something extraordinary
on it? That that and he was a known skill,
So and potentially maybe part of this cabal. You know,

(02:37:06):
Ivy League schools, they have their place in the hierarchy.
And Harvard obviously is you know, right up there. And
that's the same Harvard that av Lobe comes from, which
I find to be very interesting. And so all I'm
saying is it just seems when actual scientists do the

(02:37:28):
actual work that we've been asking for, then all of
a sudden it's like, oh well wait, not those scientists,
not that work, right? The goalposts keep moving. Then what
constitutes evidence? Because we have mitchew Kaku has said it.
I really like what he had said. The burden of

(02:37:48):
proof is now shifted from the believer to the skeptic.
We have the evidence. Now it's on the skeptic to
say it's not happening. Proof to me that it's not happening.

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
Yeah, and let me even take you one step higher
your show, it's important to some extent to maybe spend
a little bit of time on proving that it's not happening.
But again, try not to spend on stuff that is
just fluff. That's what the cabal wants you to do.

(02:38:21):
They want you to stay in the spin of who's
saying the right and wrong in congressional hearings. That's exactly
where you've been. Yes, that's exactly where we've all been.
But that's not how you move forward. That's not how
you get out. You have to kind of reassess, like

(02:38:42):
what am I spending time on today? What do I
actually know? Do I actually believe in my heart? Is
already there is actual because meet you? How do you
say his name?

Speaker 1 (02:38:56):
Doctor Mitchu Kaku?

Speaker 2 (02:38:58):
Doctor Mitchu Kaku is correct. The burden of proof has flipped.
You have access to all this information that will tell you, no,
the actual reality is ships and races all around us
in our planet, out in the galaxy, out in the multiverse,

(02:39:21):
multi dimensional, and we're still spinning on is that guy
a reptilian or not?

Speaker 1 (02:39:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:39:33):
Is there are eight ships in orbit around the planet?
Who cares? Is the Earth flat? Who cares? I'm just saying,
step into what you already have access to. Just what
he said, You have the burden of proof of what
your actual reality is, and it's all around you. It's

(02:39:55):
in the book. It's a dark, tough existence. Right in
this moment, you'll read about some things that you won't
want to read about that may be your actual reality.
I'm just saying, look, next level, when you start spending
on any given thing that someone brings to your show

(02:40:16):
and go, am I going to spend off on flat Earth?
I don't think so. Am I going to spend off
on wondering whether I have to prove or not prove
that there's eight ships out there? Maybe not. I can
kind of confirm now from I mean, this is you
speaking from research that there's most likely millions of ships

(02:40:41):
in our galaxy and around any given moon or planet
or sun, depending on what the agenda of that ship is,
and the occupants of that ship, whether they're human or extraterrestrial,
they have an agenda. They have something they're going to
do at that planet, so they orbit the planet and
do things like you would do before you land on
a planet, inspect it and figure out what your agenda is,

(02:41:04):
and then perhaps you land on the planet or you
observe and your observation. If you're getting into your research
and realizing this can be over millennia. Those ships could
have been there for thousands of years for whatever that
agenda is of that race. I'm just saying it's much
much grander, and he's right. The evidence is in your

(02:41:29):
favor to just confirm it, and then you can really
take a look at what's coming your direction. Because you're
a show host, you're doing the right thing, You're getting
it out there. You're talking about this cabal and this
entity that is controlling the planet and who they might
be if they're aliens, and most likely my gut feeling

(02:41:51):
is they are, and they're malevolent, and they're losing control.
They're failing, and that's why it's all happening right now
we're rising. Then kind of reset your priority from your
heart and go, do I need to spin off on
any of these things. I certainly want to talk about
things that are critical to what's happening right now, and
maybe eight ships sitting off in orbit, Yeah, I can

(02:42:15):
mention it, and I can certainly say that's awesome, whether
it's true or not. But most likely there's so much
bigger fish for you to fry that's really super important
to your audience.

Speaker 1 (02:42:27):
What do you think, Well, because we'll start the wrap up.
I'd love to have more conversations with you.

Speaker 2 (02:42:33):
Sure, sure, anytime. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:35):
Clearly there's more to be.

Speaker 2 (02:42:38):
Well by. Then you'll have you can listen to the
audible of Husher, you can read the book, and then
you'll you'll have a lot more questions for you.

Speaker 1 (02:42:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna I plan to sit right over there.

Speaker 2 (02:42:50):
Have your cocktail. Yeah, your water or your tea, you're
green tea. There you go, you go.

Speaker 1 (02:43:00):
It's for my crones. It's for my crones.

Speaker 2 (02:43:02):
It goes good with with hush.

Speaker 1 (02:43:04):
Yeah. If you had to pick one case that you
really really like, and you're a screenwriter, m you know,
I went to film school. I have a case that
I if there was one case that you could bring
to life on the silver screen or or you know,

(02:43:25):
even on let's just say bring it to life, because
TV shows are just as good as movies these days,
what case would that be?

Speaker 2 (02:43:34):
Without a doubt? Bob Blazars, Oh really not just what
occurred with him and his working on the Saucer. I'm
talking about his entire life. It is. It is one dynamic,
terrifying ride that that gentleman has been on. You know,
even in the documentary as they're shooting it on him

(02:43:56):
with what's his name doing the documentary and hey, his
house is rated in the documentary. Now just think about it.
You don't get raided unless you are a threat. Just
think about it. I think he has so to answer
your question his he's he's the real deal and what

(02:44:19):
he has gone through as a human where nobody believed
him right for all these years and still to this day.
You know, there's there's a lot of people that question
whether hisn't you know, whether he's the real deal. That
would be a fascinating story to me to see on
the screen if it was accurately done.

Speaker 1 (02:44:37):
Yeah, there there is a there. I met someone at
Contact in the desert that's like that's doing this really
immersive documentary Luigi. I think it's Luigi. Oh god, I'm
so bad with names.

Speaker 2 (02:44:54):
A big glass. Yeah, go ahead, it's a.

Speaker 1 (02:44:56):
It's a. It's it's a definitely uh a very Italian
Vendetti or something like that. But he put these VR
goggles on me and then you're in the hangar. You
look around, you're like looking around and you're.

Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
The S four hanger and you're in the Wye and
you see the other eight Uh it's ships that are in.

Speaker 1 (02:45:22):
There, the why. And then in the trailer for that documentary,
Lazare is obviously in it and he's saying like, this
is the closest thing two what it actually looked.

Speaker 2 (02:45:39):
Like in Awesome. I can't wait to see that.

Speaker 1 (02:45:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be wild. And that comes out.
Then there's this he was.

Speaker 2 (02:45:47):
That's an amazing interview. If you haven't seen, Oh yeah,
that's a great interview. I think it's like one of Bob.

Speaker 1 (02:45:54):
I think it's one of the most watched.

Speaker 2 (02:45:57):
Yeah, because Joe Rogan knows what's real. I'll tell you
that he knows. Joe Rogan is not going to have
someone on his show that he knows is just complete
lying and fluff. Joe Rogan brought Babazar on there because
over time Joe realized, oh my god, he's the real deal,
which means we've all been deceived. And Joe's right, And

(02:46:17):
that's why Bob was interviewed. And the interview is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (02:46:21):
It's great, it's so good. It's so good. If there's
one thing that you want people to get after reading Hush,
if that's if there's one message that you want people
to take away from Hush. What is that message?

Speaker 2 (02:46:37):
I would say, a have fun with the story because
it is a fun story. It'll take you out of
your regular work week or work month in my case,
because it's like a six hundred page book. The audible
has just come out, so that's fun. If you want
twenty two hours of hearing me read the novel and
do all the characters, that's pretty fun. But you can
go to MDC likeg dot com and there's all the

(02:46:58):
links there to pick up the book or the audible.
But my message, if I had to say what it is,
is more of a reiteration of what I've kind of
discussed with you, Tai. The whole thing is that we
have a super incredibly bright future for us as humanity
coming just ahead. It's going to be a little bit

(02:47:21):
of a dark storm that we have to get through.
It's all covered in Hush. What may be your actual
reality is pretty rough right now, but we are rising,
and we as love were.

Speaker 1 (02:47:35):
Unstoppable, absolutely absolutely, And like I said, I will put
the links for that in the description below if you're
listening in the future, in the podcast description, and we
really appreciate you coming on the show today, especially so

(02:47:56):
early for you. Usually I'm love doing recordings early because
that's when I'm at my best. I've always been an
early bird. I wake four in the morning, so like,
I love when people are like, yeah, let's do it early.
So I really appreciate that about you. I would love

(02:48:17):
to bring you to the studio in Boston.

Speaker 2 (02:48:20):
One of these days. We'll let my Lincoln will let
you know if I'm going to be in that area,
and absolutely we're going to get together and and we'll
have a talk. Then that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (02:48:30):
Hell yeah, brother, I really appreciate you doing this. And
for everyone out there, thank you for listening, Thank you
for watching. Most people, we have a high rewatch percentage,
especially with videos that we do like this. If so,
if you are watching in the future, like I said,
make sure to leave a like, share, subscribe, and if

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and we'll see you next time. MV. Thank you so much,
you're the best.

Speaker 2 (02:49:34):
Loved it wonderful.

Speaker 1 (02:49:36):
Stay in the studio and we'll catch up in a minute. Okay,

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