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June 8, 2025 27 mins

Zibby interviews Elaine Goldsmith Thomas, longtime film and TV producer and agent to some of Hollywood’s biggest stars, about her debut novel, CLIMBING IN HEELS, a smart, sexy, and entertaining story about the rise of three secretaries at the hottest agency in 1980s Hollywood. Elaine reflects on her own experience navigating the cutthroat world of Hollywood, her transition from agent to writer, and the wild stories—both real and imagined—that shaped her fiercely ambitious protagonist, Beanie Rosen. They discuss personal reinvention, women’s friendships, the background players in fame, the influence of mothers, and the long journey to owning one's creative voice.  


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