Episode 6 - John Hancock

Special Guest: John Hancock

Episode Transcript

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I got the whiskey. Let me have a drink your whiskey. Better get out of here.

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My name's Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's under hole.
I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country. Get the fuck out of here.
I tried to be kind to her. Get out of my studio. No, hell no.
From the Ramona Radio Studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show.

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All right, well, it's Sunday again, y'all. Travis Billy Ross. Welcome to the show.
Only on Ramona Radio, brought to you by Outlaw BBQ.
You know why? Because nobody wants to party with salads.
Nope. I'm gonna let you do that live now. They gotta have the meat.
You know what goes good with Outlaw BBQ? What? A fresh beer.

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Got it. Got it. She said beer.
All right. With us today, we got Sweet Curbs as always. Hey, hey. Hey.
And then we also got a special guest, Mr. John Hancock.
Hey, everybody. I don't know if that's special, but you know, they're very special.
Photographer to the stars. Oh, yeah. This guy, if you know this guy, Ramona,

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he does all the photo. Oh, don't don't let me forget.
We got Eric Goforth. I don't sound your for. Hey.
All right. So we got.
Oh, that was a good movie. What was that? 16?
All right. So we got John Hancock with us today.
Hanging out. We want to hear some cool stories, man, because I know you take a lot of,

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you know, photos of the local musicians here in Ramona.
We appreciate you. We love you for that.
But I know that you've done some really big ones, right?
Some big musicians have done some. Give me one.
Give me somebody that you've done. One of your favorite ones.
Well, one of my favorite ones, I got to shoot Jimmy Buffett at the Belly Up Tavern.
Oh, nice. So that was pretty cool.
I mean, up close, like as close as I am to you right now.

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Oh, so when you do stuff like that,
do you get like a press pass and you get to see the concert or you got to take your
pictures and go? It varies. Belly up, I usually get to stay and hang around.
Big shows like at Cal Coast and those places, they usually kick out after three songs.
OK. Oh, really? Oh, so it's like that.
So they can say get in, get your photos and get your photos and get out. Yeah.

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That's great. Three and out, they call it.
I'll be doing three and out.
So what do you do with the photos?
Do they buy them from you or you?
I shoot for various like websites locally.
There's a website called Do San Diego dot com, and they cover local events.
I shoot for mostly what I do now is Americana Highways dot org.
So they do all the, you know, outlaw country Americana music,

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country music, things like that.
They're based out of Nashville, I think.
So you do Americana Fest.
I really do want to do Americana Fest and maybe next year.
I'm definitely going to get out there and do it one year for sure.
Where's that at in Nashville? Oh, man. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. They have a whole festival.
Americana. You know, they're having an Americana Fest West in L.A. this year.

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Oh, yeah. Same producers, same, same.
I'm not positive it's the same people.
It might be, but it's going to be at.
Forget the place up in L.A. It's just a weekend.
It's going to be all basically, you know,
Southern California musicians that are going to be playing it.
But it looks like it's pretty cool.
I don't know if you guys heard Rosie Nolan. She's played down here.

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She did a songbird show once. She's really good.
She's playing a couple of other people.
Aubrey Richmond, she's played down here before. So. Oh, yeah. Right on.
So you said Jimmy Buffett was that was that your favorite best concert
that you've ever been to or is that the best photo?
Well, that wasn't my favorite best concert.
I mean, I love Jimmy Buffett. I'm a parrot head.

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I've been a parrot head for years.
The cool thing about Jimmy Buffett is my photo from that show is on the wall
at the Belly Up. Oh, yeah. That's so cool.
And he commented on it on Instagram, which was even cooler.
That's you got Graham. Wow. Yeah.
You got the Graham mention. I did.
Wow. But I mean, you know, I've shot so many.

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That's how you know, it's hard to tell who my favorite is.
Tom Petty. Tom Petty was awesome.
Oh, man. Shooting Kiss was amazing.
Those guys, you know.
Yeah, I saw those photos that you did of Kiss, man.
You were like right there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right.
And that's the thing. Sometimes you get to be right there.
And then sometimes you got to be way in the back.
Yeah. So get that zoom. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. So it's cool.
But I really like shooting local guys, too.
You know, yeah, it's a lot of fun.
So, yeah, man, we appreciate you, dude, for all the photos that you take of us.
Well, I know I ran into him because he's the guy that does all of the wicked,
cool album covers. Oh, yeah. Studio shoots like you do a lot of like live
performance shoots, but you're really known for the artists going in

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and you just bring out the best.
I want to say the best.
But I mean, you bring out the character of their music.
I'll say the photos, which is which is just the coolest thing.
And so so I mean, that's you're the guy that people to go to.
And I like doing that.
That's that's kind of a challenge to bring out because, you know,

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dirty confetti or I shot Jesse Lark yesterday,
and she's a totally different style than dirty confetti, you know.
And so but one thing is that you got to have fun.
If you're not having fun, then it's a terrible photo.
Well, that says a lot about any photographer that you can get quality
photos in an intimate setting like you're obviously making people

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feel really comfortable and like it's just a fun and we're just having a good time.
Yeah. And that's yeah.
If you're not having a good time, then it's not going to be a good shoot.
Yeah, they're not comfortable.
Yeah, it's not going to be any fun.
Now, my favorite one is we would when Sarah Jade released her latest
album, Singing Women. Mm hmm. Right.
And we were there for the release of it or whatever.

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She tells the story.
She goes, John, can we do this with our tops off?
John's like, I saw that.
Well, yes. Yes.
You can ask him about that, too.
Let me tell you about the lead up to that.
I bet you get the you probably get some crazy requests.
You're like, well, I would have thought of it.

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I was going to suggest it, but I was hoping you would.
We'll do you and Ian Topless in the boat.
Yeah, no, you know, we should do that.
Recreate that.
That's funny.
We talked about recreating it with you, Craig.
And who was Michael?
Michael Dean Goodmire.
Yes.
Sarah, if you're listening, you've inspired everybody and you are a huge inspiration.

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Heck yeah.
Yeah, you did.
That was a fun shoot.
Oh, man.
OK, so today's topic.
So me and John Hancock, we're good friends and we always bicker back and forth about
outlaw country or what is outlaw country compared to Southern Rock.
So this is the show where we're going to really dive down deep and figure out.

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So you said that Jimmy Buffett was one of your favorite ones to go and photograph.
So Jimmy Buffett, outlaw country or country or Southern Rock?
Jimmy Buffett.
It depends, man.
I know.
Early Jimmy Buffett was old school country.
If you listen to really early Jimmy Buffett, definitely old school country.
But then he got, you know, Margaritaville came out and Cheeseburger in Paradise and

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that whole reggae island vibe came out, which he inspired a ton of people with that music.
I was going to say island country, like, because then Kenny Chesney came along.
Exactly.
Zach Brown and all those guys.
I like that term island country.
That's cool.
I like that too.
I think that's what he ended up being.
But in my opinion, and Craig Fisher and I argue about this all the time, I think Jimmy

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Buffett was an amazing songwriter and storyteller.
He told great stories.
Oh, man.
What was that one he did?
The Pirate Song?
The Pirate looks at 40.
Yeah, man, that song was incredible.
He went to Paris.
You know, he just wrote some great songs.
Great songs.
And then he did that song with Alan Jackson.
What was that song?
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere.

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Five O'Clock Somewhere.
Yeah, that was a killer song.
I like how they integrated that as John or Alan Jackson was doing the song.
What would Jimmy Buffett do?
Funny you should ask.
No, that was killer.
Well, shoot, let's listen to a Jimmy Buffett song.

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So what song do you want me to play?
Let's do Pirate Looks at 40.
Pirate Looks at 40.
Okay, yeah, let's do it.
Here it goes.
Mother, mother ocean, I have heard you call

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Wanted to sail upon your water since I was three feet tall
You've seen it all, you've seen it all
Watch the man who rode you switch from sails to steams

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In your belly you hold the treasures you have ever seen
Most of them dream, most of them dream
Yes, I am a pirate, two hundred years too late

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The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder
I'm an over-40 victim of faith
Arriving too late, arriving too late
I've done a bit of smuggling

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And I've run a share of grass
I made enough money to buy Miami
But I pissed it away so fast
Never meant to last, never meant to last
And I have been drunk now for over two weeks

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I passed out and I ratted and I smoked a few beers
But I got to stop fishing
Got to go fishing down the rock bottom again
With just a few friends
With just a few friends

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I go for younger women
Live myself a little while
Though I ran away and they come back one day
Still could manage to smile
Just takes a while
Just takes a while

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Mother, mother ocean
After all the years I've found
My occupational hazard beat
My occupation's just not around
I feel like I've drowned
Gone ahead of time

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I feel like I've drowned
Gone ahead of time

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I've got to run to keep from having
And I'm bound to keep on raving
I've got one more silver dollar
But I'm not gonna let them catch me, no
I'm not gonna let them catch the midnight driver

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And I don't own the clothes I'm wearing
And the road goes on forever
And I've got one more silver dollar
But I'm not gonna let them catch me, no
I'm not gonna let them catch the midnight driver

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And the road goes on forever

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And I don't own the clothes I'm wearing

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I'm going by the point of caring
I'm going by the point of caring
I've got one more silver dollar
But I'm not gonna let them catch me, no
I'm not gonna let them catch the midnight driver

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And I don't own the clothes I'm wearing
And the road goes on forever
And I don't own the clothes I'm wearing
And the road goes on forever

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And I don't wanna let them catch me, no
I'm not gonna let them catch the midnight driver
Alright, good old Allman Brothers, 1970.
They're the kings of Southern Rock.
They're the ones that started Southern Rock, if you ask me.

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You know, I agree with you on that. I like the Allman Brothers.
But they could still be outlaw, because they're singing about outlaw things.
I know, what makes it different? Like, what makes it different from outlaw to...
Here's what I say, he gets mad when I call his Jeep a car.
I would say it because it's not a car.
I said, all Jeeps are cars, not all cars are Jeeps.

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It's a vehicle, it's a vehicle, no.
Every puppy is a dog, but not every dog is a puppy.
That is not true. Thank you.
It's a vehicle, it's not a car. That's like saying a truck is a car, a truck is not a car.
It's a vehicle. Yeah, that's kind of a...
That's a bougie, right?
I'm just saying, it can overlap.
Car or vehicle, our next topic.
Every Coke is a soda, but not every soda is a Coke.

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True, very true.
Or if you're from Washington, a pop.
Right, it's a pop.
I grew up calling them all Coke.
You would go to the restaurant. Go get a Coke.
Yeah, I need a Coke. You want a Coke?
A Dr. Pepper.
Up in Washington, everything was a Coke.
What kind of Coke? Dr. Pepper.

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Or a pop, or a pop.
Oh, man. Okay, so Hancock, country hero, who would be?
Ooh, my favorite country hero?
Yeah. Don't you dare say it.
Country? How long?
My favorite country hero.
Or who would be the king of country, in your opinion?

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The king of country, in my opinion?
Hank Williams.
Hank Williams, same!
Yes, Hank Williams.
See, I knew that's why we were friends.
Did you all just become best friends?
Yes, we did. Hank Senior, yes.
I'm not like Hank Williams Jr. too, but Senior is the king of country. Come on.
Love it, yes. Absolutely, man, because he started it.
You'll be invited back.
Yeah, man, crazy stories with Hank Senior.

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So did you know that he had some kind of a back, like a born with a back disease of some kind?
I heard something like that, yeah.
That's why he was, yeah.
So that's, well, I don't know, that's why he was an alcoholic, but he got fired from the Grand Ole Opera.
And because he would miss shows all the time.

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Caused his greatest shame.
Well, it did. And that's why he wrote that part in that, or that's why Hank Jr. wrote that part in the song.
But he did, he got fired from the opera because he kept, you know, missing shows.
And because he was always drunk.
And so he got, you know, they prescribed him with all kinds of like morphine and things like that.
And then he got fired from the show.

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And that really bothered him a lot.
And the dude that was running the Grand Ole Opera at the time said that, you know, you can come back if you're sober.
You know, because I didn't want to rehire him and have him keep missing shows.
So and he unfortunately didn't make it.
And five months later, he passed away in that Cadillac.
Yeah, pretty wild. That's tragic.

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Yeah. Good old Hank Sr.
And my opinion also, king of country, John.
All right. So next question. Queen of country. Queen of country.
We know who Kirby's is. We got one answer. Queen of country.
Kirby, there is only one answer. Dolly Parton.
You will be invited back. Yes, you'll be invited back.

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It's unanimous. Two for two.
This is like this is like that episode where they do the jeopardy of the category is just there's only one answer.
There's only one answer.
Although you got to give it up for, you know, Loretta Lynn and yes.
No, yeah. Love them. Love them all. Yeah. Those people. Alabama.
I don't think Alabama's they're just old school country.

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They're like 90s country. 90s countries. I think a whole different ballgame. 90s.
Yeah, they're not outlaw. They're not outlaw. No, no, I don't think so.
And they're definitely not Southern Rock. It's kind of like Skinner.
Like if you think of Southern Rock, who's the first band you think of? Of course, Skinner. Right. Right.
But I feel like Alabama kind of falls under that that same umbrella.
You know, see, here's what I've been thinking lately.

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I think what defines Southern Rock is it's really guitar driven, electric guitar driven.
But I mean, think of Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, you.
You all play acoustic guitars. Yeah. You know, but the outlaws, Leonard Skinner, Molly Hatchet,
those guys all played electric. The Allman Brothers. You know, that's true.

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That's the difference. Alabama. I don't think Alabama.
They might have an electric guitar, but that's not their lead guitar. No, they did have the fiddle
because they did sing that song. If you're going to play in Texas, you got to have a fiddle.
Well, most of their songs have the fiddle. That just the fiddle is really in now.
Yeah, it is. I think it's made a big comeback. Americana and traditional country kind of.
Now they're calling it all country. But yeah, well, talking about fiddles, let's come up with the fiddle songs.

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Our fiddle songs, the fiddle. Well, we already know the devil went down to Georgia.
I mean, that's all right. That's the song. Aside from that, and I'd say if you're going to play in Texas,
you got to have a fiddling band. Marshall Tucker's got some good fiddle songs.
I was just listening to one. Oh, man, what the heck was it?
So is Marshall Tucker's Southern Rock or outlaw country?

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This is where I'm going to ask you something. So I've been listening to Marshall Tucker to get ready for this show.
And then I'm like, are they Southern Rock or are they country rock, which I think is a whole different ballgame.
Eagles, Poco, Little River Band. I think Marshall Tucker fits more into that genre than outlaw or Southern Rock.

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More of country rock. Yeah. Country rock. OK. Yeah.
So that could be a whole different show. Southern Rock, country rock.
So which Marshall Tucker song was it? Do you remember? Oh, man. You got a list there?
There's a... Heard it in a love song? Fire on the Mountain. Can't you see?
Fire on the Mountain. Yeah, let's hear that.

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Took my family away from my Carolina home Had dreams about the West and started to roam
Six long months on a dust covered trail They say heaven's at the end but so far it's been hell And there's fire on the mountain, lightning in the air

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Holding them hills and it's waiting for me there
We were digging and shifting from five to five Selling everything we found just to stay alive Gold flowed free like the whiskey and the bar

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Sin was the big thing, Lord, and sin was star and deer Fire on the mountain, lightning in the air Holding them hills and it's waiting for me there

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So that could be a whole different show. Southern Rock, country rock.
And soft girls were the evening tree Empty cartons and bloodlines, the gooders of the street

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Me and worse shot down for the sake of fun Or just to hear the nose of their forty-four thongs
And there's fire on the mountain, lightning in the air Holding them hills and it's waiting for me there

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Now my widow, she weeps by my grave Tears flow free for her man she couldn't save
Shot down in cold blood by a gun that carried fame All for a useless and no good wordless claim
And there's fire on the mountain, lightning in the air Holding them hills and it's waiting for me there

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Waiting for me there

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I said I want to touch the earth I want to break it in my hands I want to grow something wild and unruly
I want to sleep on the hard ground In the comfort of your arms On a pillow of blue bonnets In a blanket made of stars

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Oh, it sounds good to me I said cowboy, take me away Fly this through as high as you can into the wild blue
Set me free, oh, I pray Closer to heaven above and closer to you Closer to you

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I want to walk and not run I want to skip and not fall I want to look at the horizon And not see a building standing tall
I want to be the only one For miles and miles Except for me, thank you And your simple smile Oh, it sounds good to me

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Yes, it sounds so good to me
Cowboy, take me away Fly this through as high as you can into the wild blue Set me free, oh, I pray Closer to heaven above and closer to you Closer to you

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I said I want to touch the earth I want to break it in my hands I want to grow something wild and unruly

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Oh, it sounds so good to me
Cowboy, take me away Fly this through as high as you can into the wild blue Set me free, oh, I pray Closer to heaven above and closer to you Closer to you

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Closer to you
Cowboy, take me away Closer to you

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Closer to you

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Alright, we're back. So the first song you heard there was Fire on the Mountain. I'm not even going to tell you who that is because you already know. And then who was that we were just listening to the last song? Was it a woman?
The Dixie Chicks.
Was that the chicks?
The chicks.
Yeah.
Formerly known as.
Formerly known as.

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Formerly known as.
Dixie Chicks.
It was the chicks.
I had both of their first two CDs. I was a fan.
Yeah, I like the Dixie Chicks. Oh, the chicks. Sorry.
I liked them.
I'm still a fan. I like them.
Me too.
I like them. We're good.
Alright, my good friend, John Hancock.
I know we had talked about because we live pretty close to this casino here in San Diego called Barona.

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Who's the music? Who's the artist that you think of when you hear Barona Casino?
Barona Casino?
Barona Casino.
Do they do music at Barona Casino?
No, but I forgot about this. We were just talking about him though. He was their spokesperson.
The gambler, John.
Really? Kenny Rogers?
He was like their original spokesperson.

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Yeah, he was the spokesperson.
I forgot about that.
On a warm summer's eve.
There it is.
Alright, so what do you think about Kenny Rogers?
I try not to.
Try not to?
You got a Kenny Rogers issue.
I like Kenny Rogers. I do. There's some Kenny Rogers. But Kenny Rogers to me is neither Outlaw nor Southern Rock.

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He's pop country. Old pop country. Not new bro country. But he's 90s country.
I like him and I like a lot of 90s stuff.
So what do you think? Southern Rock or country?
Country. He's country.
Country?
Yeah.
Did you know Kenny Rogers covered a version of Old Red? We played it on here.
Did you?

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The George Shelton song, yeah. So George Jones did it originally. Kenny Rogers covered it. And then Blake Shelton covered it.
And Kenny Rogers was my favorite version.
Now George Jones, that's Outlaw right there.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Blake Shelton. I liked Blake Shelton. Early Blake Shelton. And then he kind of went bro country.
He's like pop country now.
He kind of went pop country. Not a big fan.

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Alright, so Kenny Rogers. So we said not Outlaw country.
He is not Outlaw country. What makes him Outlaw country?
You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille? That's not Outlaw.
That's not Outlaw.
The gambler is barely Outlaw.
The gambler is barely country.
I don't know, I think it's true.
What's the one that's Outlaw?
Folks just call him yellow, but you don't have to fight to be a man.

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Oh, you don't have to fight to be a man.
That's a good one.
I'll give him Outlaw on that, but that's about it.
What is that one called? Something about a loser.
A loser of some county or something?
The coward of the county.
That's a great song.
That's a great song.
Alright, so we were talking earlier about Jimmy Buffett.

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Jimmy Buffett.
What do you think about Kenny Chesney?
I like Kenny Chesney. I do like Kenny Chesney.
I've actually been lucky enough to photograph Kenny Chesney a couple of times.
I like him. I think he's a great musician.
I like his music. He is that island style stuff.

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Again, early Kenny Chesney was a little more country.
Then he kind of got more into the island.
You know who else did that? The island-ery kind of stuff?
I really love Zac Brown.
Yeah, Zac Brown for sure.
He did a song with Jimmy Buffett.
Their first album was...
Was Knee Deep, yeah?
Yeah.
You know what? The first time I saw Zac Brown, for my 50th birthday,

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Rochelle took me up to stagecoach before stagecoach got crazy.
Loretta Lynn was there.
Loretta Lynn was playing one of the smaller stages. It was early in the day.
Loretta Lynn was playing one of the smaller stages.
Zac Brown was playing at noon or one o'clock.
Nobody even knew who Zac Brown was yet.
That's awesome.
She's going, I'm going to go see Loretta Lynn.
I said, okay, I want to go check out this Zac Brown guy.

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Speaking of fiddle players, Zac Brown's got an amazing fiddle player.
Amazing.
Oh my God, yeah.
So I went and there was like 20 people watching Zac Brown.
No kidding.
And I went back to Rochelle and I said, babe, that guy is going to be huge.
He is amazing.
That's crazy.
So yeah.
Man, I'll tell you what, I went to a Zac Brown concert.
So it was an Eagles concert.

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That was the headliner and then Zac Brown and then the Dubu Brothers opened up.
But Zac Brown was in the middle.
And man, I swear that was the coolest show that Zac Brown put on.
They did a Metallica cover.
They did Inner Sandman.
And the fiddle player didn't play a fiddle.
It was a fiddle, but it looked like a big skull.

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It looked like a death metal frickin' fiddle.
And dude, he killed that solo in Inner Sandman from Metallica.
I think they do a metal song in every set.
Might not be the same one.
I think they do a Zac Brown.
They do a metal song in every set.
But speaking of the Dubu Brothers, there's one for you.
Southern Rock.
Early Dubu Brothers before Michael McDonald.

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Because Michael McDonald, you know, then it became pop stuff.
But early Dubu Brothers.
Like what?
Black Water.
Oh, rollback water.
That's a good one.
But no, let me tell you this about Zac Brown.
They did that Queen song.
Bohemian Rhapsody.
Yeah, they did it.
Man, they killed it.

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It was so badass.
They're really good.
They're good.
I feel like Old Dominion is the new Zac Brown.
Old Dominion?
I like Old Dominion.
They have that same kind of, they're not as islandy.
They're definitely more on the countryside, but they have that vibe.
Yeah, they do kind of have a beachy kind of vibe.
Like I was on a boat that day.
They have a couple other ones that are very in line with that.

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Alright, John.
So give me a couple of your songs that you have to hear before you head out.
Okay, so we can bring some Joe Hancock in here.
Travis and I talked about this before.
So I grew up in Florida.
So Southern Rock was everywhere, you know, at Outlaws.
Outlaws were one of the first, actually the first concert I ever saw.
They opened for Bad Company.

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It was the very first real live rock concert I'd ever seen.
But Blackfoot, love Blackfoot.
So I talked to Travis Train, Train, Train by Blackfoot.
That's a good one.
Ballad of somebody low.
Curtis Low, Leonard Skinner.
That is my favorite Leonard Skinner song, and I had never heard it until they played it.

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And I was like, what is this? I didn't know it was Leonard Skinner.
And then we can close it out with Southern Rock Never Dies by the Outlaws.
Southern Rock Never Dies. Love it.
Alright, well let's get a couple songs in here and then we got to see if you can dethrone Miss Kirby over here.
Oh, we're going to do it? We're going to do the game?

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Well, so far, I think every guest that has come on has said, well, we didn't have an opportunity to see it.
Michael Beach.
Michael Beach, you're pretty good.
Alright, we'll give it a shot.
We'll do some classic rock.
It's a lot to live up to. I just got to start losing on purpose.
No oboe.
My record is like...

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Oh, here it comes.

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Well, train, train, take me on out of this town. Train, train, no, take me on out of this town.
Well, that woman I'm in love with, Lord, she's never spent. Well, leave it here, I'm just a raggedy hobo.

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Lord, I'm leaving here, I'm just a raggedy hobo. Well, that woman I'm in love with, Lord, she's got to go.

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Well, that woman I'm in love with, Lord, she's got to go.
Well, goodbye, bread mama, get yourself a money man.

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Goodbye, bread mama, get yourself a money man. You take that midnight train to Memphis, Lord, leave if you can.
You take that midnight train to Memphis, Lord, leave if you can.

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Goodbye, bread mama, get yourself a money man. You take that midnight train to Memphis, Lord, leave if you can.
Well, I used to wake the morning for the rooster crow.

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Searching for soda bottles to get myself some dough. Run them down to the corner, down to the country store.
Cash them in and give my money to a man named Curtis Low. Oh, Curtis was a black man with white curly hair. When he had a fifth of wine, he did not have a care.

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He used to own a notepad, bro, he used to play it across his knees. I'd give old Curtis my money, he'd play hard to get.
Play me a song, Curtis Low, Curtis Low. Well, I got your drink and money to mop your door. People say it was useless, them people are all fools.

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Because Curtis Low was the finest picker to ever play the blues.
He looked to be sixty, and maybe I was ten. Mama used to work me, but I'd go see him again. I'd climb my hands, stomp my feet, try to stay in town.

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He'd play me a song, dude, and take another drink of wine. Play me a song, Curtis Low, Curtis Low. Well, I got your drink and money to mop your door, bro.
People say it was useless, them people are all fools. Because Curtis Low was the finest picker to ever play the blues.

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I got your drink and money to mop your door.
I got your drink and money to mop your door.

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On the day old Curtis died, nobody came to pray. Old preacher said some words and they chucked him in the clay.
He lived a lifetime playing the black man's blues. And on the day he lost his life, that's all he had to move.

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Because Curtis Low was the finest picker to ever play the blues.
Because Curtis, you're the finest picker to ever play the blues.

(45:28):
One of my favorite, uh, Leonard Skinner songs right there. The Ballad of Curtis Low. It's not very well known either. I know. Yeah. I asked this, uh, this, uh, Skinner cover band. I'm all, do you know Ballad of Curtis Low? And they're like, what? I'm gonna get the hell out of my face. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So is it that time? Are we going to play this? John Hancock, do you want to play this game? I'm not sure. It's pretty fun. It's pretty fun because she wins a lot.

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I know. Yeah. Sweet curves. I gotta start throwing it so I don't feel so much pressure. No Abba songs. She's beaten me every time except once. All right. I'm gonna give it a shot. All right. All right. So let's break this down, how this works. All right. Rose. Who has a pen so I can keep track of you. I got a pen. There you go. All right. So we are going to do Southern rock tonight. Southern rock. Okay. All right. Well, I'm gonna lose. Well, we have to, you know, show a little, show a little love to the Southern rock guy. Yeah, we gotta show some love. As long as I don't lose to Travis, I'm happy to lose to our guest host.

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Now, but I will be, I'll be watching though. If all of a sudden becomes 400 to zero, well, we might switch it up a little bit. Okay. Okay. So so how's this work? So here's what's going to happen. I'm going to play a song. You can name either the artist or the title. Okay. If you do that, you get five seconds to name the other part. First person to chime in. You get five seconds to name either the artist or the song. Either way. You just yell it out first. You gotta yell it out. Got it. We're not professional here. We're not fancy.

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Yeah, you just yell it out. All right. And then, uh, uh, yeah. So you have a chance to get up to two points. Okay. If you don't get it, if you don't get the other part in five seconds, anybody else can get your second point. Okay. Okay. So is everybody in on the tribe?
Sure. I can't be in cause I'm looking. Well, it's me. It's me. Uh, sweet curves and John Hancock. All right. All right. Wait, hold on. Where's my whiskey? Oh yeah. You gotta, you gotta do your pre-toast. All right. You guys ready? All right. Let's do it. All right.

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All right. I think John got that one. John got both of them. Cause he gets two dings. He gets two Kirby's. He gets two Kirby's. We have Kirby's and we have, uh, we have Travis's. All right. We're ready for the next one. Yeah. Let's go.

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Tom Petty. Got five seconds. It's the name of the song. Three, two, one. American girl. Yes. I don't want to play with you guys anymore. Southern rock edition.
All right. You ready? Three to one. So I have zero. Oh geez. Here we go. Lerner Skinner. Three to three to zero. All right. We're ready.

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According to the charts, it's the fifth most popular outlaw or Southern rock songs.
The charts are wrong. Cause I've never heard of it. Maybe once he says it, but. All right. You guys don't know it? No. All right. Go ahead. But who is it?

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McGee. No, that's the name of the song. The band is my morning jacket. Never heard of it. My morning jacket is not outlaw country or Southern rock. Is that my morning jacket fairly new?
Yes. And they're like, they're alternative rock. Oh, see what Google does. Here we go. Let's try this. Hank Williams Jr. That's my hatchet. Oh yes. Yes. Yes. I hit the wrong button.

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Gator country. Do I get another chance? You got five. Anybody know it? It is Molly Hatch. Bounty hunter. All right. This was on that. Here it goes. Gonna say it.
Clarin with disaster. So that was on, remember that game with the guitar, the fake guitar. Guitar hero. I can't believe I didn't know that. So I'm going to resign while I still have my dignity.

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Get out of here, speaker. And let Travis and John finish it out. Five to three to zero. I don't. Fair enough. All right. You got it. You ready for the next one? All right. Let's go.
Marshall Tucker band. Can't you see? Yeah, good one. Five to five. He probably plays that. I do play this one. He plays that. That's not fair.

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That's funny. All right. Let's try this one. No. Somebody newer. Somebody newer. Yeah. I don't know. So can new people come out with Southern rock music?

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I consider Jason is Bell Southern rock almost. All right. I consider Aaron Lewis outlaw country. Yeah. Chris Stapleton's outlaw. Yeah, he's outlaw. All right. Nobody knows this one. No. The date. John Henry died by the drive by truckers.
No. The drive by truckers. Okay. Yeah, I'm not a big truckers guy. Craig would have known that. Here we go. Right house. Copperhead Road. Yes. Steve Earl. All right. Ready? Molly Hatchet.

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Not Leonard Skinner. This Leonard Skinner. Golden Earring. You guys know the song though. Yeah. Mississippi Queen. I got it. I got it. Black Oak, Arkansas. So who sings it?
One. I don't know. Nobody. Mountain. Mountain. So you got Mississippi Queen. That's a one hit wonder right there. Mississippi Queen. I got it. Seven to six. Here we go.

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Leonard Skinner. The Stevie Ray Vaughn. Who sings it? Excuse me. What's the name of the title?
Oh shit. What's the name of it? Five. John Hancock. Something about a man. Something man. Nobody knows. I can't think of it. Change it. Change it. Yeah. All right. Ready for the next one? Ready. All right. Let's do three more because right now we're at nine to two. Nine to six. Kid Rock. Hold on. She was talking.

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I know that doesn't count. That's fair. All right. We'll scratch that one. All right. We'll scratch that one. Kid Rock. All right. What were you saying, Kirby? So right now we're at nine to six. So if we do three more, John can come back. Four more. Let's do four. Four more. All right. Four more songs. Tiebreaker. Keep track of us. Your rags ready for the next one? ZZ Top. God almighty. Tush.

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Damn it. Eight to nine. Three more songs. All right. Here we go. The next one. Black Betty. Ram Jam. Wow. Come on. What? Ten to nine. Two songs. All right. Ready for the next one?

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Red, our love.
You guys are both going to kick yourself.
Leonard Skinner. John Hancock.

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Is that Stevie Ray Vaughn? All right. You both blew it. You guys are going to absolutely fall out of your chair. You ready for this? Who do you think it is? Well, you said nobody could figure out the name. It's the Allman Brothers. I was going to say the Allman Brothers. Oh, you were. You were going to say that.
And the name of the song is Weapon Post. Weapon Post. Didn't Stevie Ray Vaughn do Weapon Post? I think he did. Yeah.

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All right. Here we go. Where are we at, Kirby? Last song. Last song. All right. And we are at, before you play it, we are Travis Nine, John Ten. Anybody's game.
We're going with this.

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Metallica. Sounds like Audioslave.
What the heck is this? You, sir, are going to absolutely lose your mind when you find out who sings this. You can't figure it out.

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Faith No More? I don't know this song at all. All right. We're going to find a song. When do you guys got to guess the song? This is Southern Rock? What was that? This is Hank Williams III. That's Hank III? With David Allen Coe. Get the. Get. But they were singing with Rebel Meets Rebel.
Okay. All right. Here it is. I thought that would be a little hard. Last song. Here it is. Marshtucker. Marshtucker.

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I heard it in a love song. Congratulations, John Hancock. We may have to send our offer now to invite you back. No, it's all good. It was fun. All right. John Hancock. Thank you so much for hanging out with us on this beautiful Sunday evening on the Ramona Radio.

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We're going to send you out with a song. What song would you like to hear? Before we send them out, tell us how we get a hold of you. You're the photographer to all of the musicians.
I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. I don't do any of that new stuff. None of the Tiki talks.

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All right. So a song you requested for your last song here is by the Outlaws and it's called Southern Rock Will Never Die. Let's listen to that stuff. Hey, John, thanks for coming by, man. That was fun. Thanks for having me.
Have a good time. Thank you, John. Let's do it again.

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I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. I don't do TikTok.
I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. Thanks for having me.

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I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. I don't do TikTok. Thanks for having me.
I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. Thanks for having me.

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Ghost riders on the wind in the southern sky. Buried, brand new, and flamed. Billy Rock and Plane. The spirit of TC and Taz are still alive. Southern Rock will never die.

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I'm on Facebook. Instagram is at John Hancock Photos. I have a website, johnhancockphotos.com. That's pretty much it. I don't do TikTok. Thanks for having me.
You might say that was long ago. Yeah, and time has passed us by. But the devil's still down in Georgia. And I still got rambling on my mind.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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The spirit of TC and Taz are still alive. Southern Rock will never die.
Will never die.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right. Good old John Hancock, man. What a cool guy. That was fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. I did not enjoy it.
No, I'm just kidding. It was fun. It was very fun. You didn't even get one point, did you? No, I resigned halfway through because I was like, this is obviously not my wheelhouse.
You gotta love the outlaw and then you gotta love the Southern Rock. Anyway. All right, so we got Cassie go forth back with us. Cassie, how you doing? I'm good. I'm good. I'm sorry I missed John. Sounds like Kirby had a great time.

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I mean, Kirby had a choice. Who would have just done music trivia all night?
I gotta brush up on my Southern Rock, I guess. That's all right. That's all right. So you're talking about road trips, sweet curbs. Yep. Going on road trips with Bessie. Yeah, that was my grandparents motor home. That's what they called it.

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Yeah. Yeah. My grandpa would drive and I would sit at the little coffee table. There's little two end chairs and my grandma taught me how to play poker. Yeah.
What kind of poker? Five card? Five card, yeah. Yeah. That's all. Playing five card poker rolling across the states. Yep. Little kid. And she taught me how to bluff because I would smile and she would beat me. And I'm like, how did you beat me? I had all these questions.

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She's like, because you smiled, I knew I'd just bluff you. She's like, you gotta have a poker face. She taught you a lesson. We did, I think, our first time coming to California, I was born and raised, well, born early. I spent the early part of my childhood up in Spokane, Washington.
And our first time to California, we borrowed a family motor. My dad found a motor home from somebody. And it was both the most fun and most nightmarish trip we ever did. You know? That's usually how it goes.

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You pack an entire family into a small motor home. Yeah. You know? Oh my goodness. Yeah. Okay. So my crazy road trip from South Carolina to San Diego. I had a 1986 Monte Carlo with no air conditioning and it was in the middle of summertime. Oh my goodness. Yep.
I drove all the way straight through. By yourself? No, I had my uncle with me. Crank those windows down. Oh man, I had my uncle with me. He was driving and we were going through Arizona and I'd taken a nap and it was probably like 110 degrees out. And so I took a nap and I woke up. I thought like I had cotton balls in my mouth.

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Like, I'm like, I couldn't even talk. I said, you gotta pull over. Stop at gas station. That happened to us. I was with a friend of mine. We'd gone to Havasu and it was my friend Heather, her daughter, who was like four or five at the time. And we had driven from San Diego to Havasu. No problem. The day we left to go home, we made it 20 minutes out of Havasu. Again, 120 degrees. Air conditioning completely goes out.

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Oh my gosh. Even I who like heat would. It was horrible. Mostly because we had a daughter. I was more worried about her in the back. It was leather seats and this little Honda Civic. It was so hot. We literally stopped at like every gas station for bottles of water and we're like pouring them on our head. Oh gosh. It was so hot.
It was funny. You were talking about your grandma teaching you to play poker and Bessie. I have some a similar story. We went on a family road trip in an RV. I was about sixth grade, I think. My brother was teaching us to play cards of some sort. Well, he figured out that if he sat my sister and I on one side of the dinette and him on the other, he could see our cards in the mirror behind tricky, tricky.

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You know how many years it took me to figure out that he was so good. He's like a card. So bad. And he was, you know, a teenager at that point. And we were like 10 and 12. Maybe at least let you win like once in a while. Never. Are you kidding? Just sweeped.
We just thought, well, he was the big brother. So what are some good driving songs? Well, I heard somebody or you said your grandparents called their motor home Bessie, which reminds me of Astros. Astros got that song Bessie, which is really cool. Yeah. Astro Kelly. Yeah. That's what her RVs name is.

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You know what driving song I really like Alan Jackson drive. Yeah, that's fun. Listen to something. All right. Let's listen to Astro. I want to hear Astro. Yeah.

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She likes cruising at 55 days of the fast lane.
Slow and steady we roll.
I don't want to plan that just want some time to get it together because I lost my mind.

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And my heart.
She would have said, go out and get it.
But I worry about you.
And don't you forget it.
Just call me every day and tell me everything.

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I don't have a little time to enjoy the ride.
Now I'm sitting right back.
Laughing and crying.
It's so beautiful.
I just don't know what can my way down.

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But I worry about you.
And don't you forget it.
She would have said, I love you.
With her arms around me.
Please call me every day and tell me all the little things.

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I thank you every single day.
I pray that you'll keep me safe.
I miss you.
I miss you.
I miss you.

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I'll take you with me.
She would have said, go out and get it.
But I worry about you.
And don't you forget it.
She would have said, I love you.

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With her arms around me.
Just call me every day and tell me everything.
Please call me every day and tell me all the little things.
I wish I could call you every day.

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And tell you all the little things.
I was painted red.
The stripe was white.

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I was 18 feet from about a stern line.
Second hand from a dealer in Atlanta.
I rode up with daddy when he went there together.
Put on a shine.
Put on a motor.
Built out of love.
Made for the water.
Ran it for years until a transom got rotten.

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A piece of my childhood will never be forgotten.
It was just an old plywood boat.
A 75 Johnson with electric choke.
A young boy with two hands on the wheel.
I can't replace the way it made me feel.
And I would turn to Charlotte.

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Make it whiny, say, you can't beat the way an old wood boat rides.
Just a little lake across the Alabama line.
But I was king of the ocean when daddy let me drive.
Just an old half ton short bed Ford.

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My uncle bought a new in 64.
Daddy got it right cause the engine was smokin'.
Couple of burnt valves and it had it goin'.
He'd let me drive her and we'd haul off a load.
Down a dirt strip where we'd dump trash off a thick pin row.
I'd sit up in the sea and stretch my feet out to the petals.

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Smiling like a hero that just received his medal.
It was just an old hand-me-down Ford.
With three speed on the column and a dent in the door.
A young boy with two hands on the wheel.
I can't replace the way it made me feel.
And I would press that clutch and I'd keep it right.

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But people say, a little sore son and you're doing just fine.
Just a dirt road with trash on each side.
But I was merry old Andre when daddy let me drive.
I'm grown up now, three daughters and mom.

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Let them drive my old Jeep across the pasture at our home.
Maybe one day they'll reach back in their file and pull out that old memory.
Think of me and smile and say, it's just an old worn out Jeep.
Rusty old floorboards, hot on my feet.
A young girl, two hands on the wheel.

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I can't replace the way it made me feel.
And he'd say, turn it left and steer it right.
Straighten up, girl, now you're doing just fine.
Just a little valley by the river where we'd ride.
But I was high on the mountain when daddy let me drive.

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Daddy let me drive.
Oh, he let me drive.
She's just an old plywood mold with a 75 Johnson.

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With electric choke.

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Keeping rhythm with the song on the radio.
Gotta keep rolling.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.
Looking for a better way for me.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.

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Looking for a sunny day.
Well, the truck stopped beauty coming on to me.
Tried to talk me into a ride, said I wouldn't be sorry.

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She was just a baby.
Hey, waitress, pour me another cup of coffee.
Pop it down, jack me up, shoot me out, flying down the highway.
Looking for the morning.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.
Looking for a better way for me.

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Ooh, I'm driving my life away.
Looking for a sunny day.
Well, the midnight headlight blinded on a rainy night.

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Steep grade, upper head, slow me down, making no time.
Well, I gotta keep rolling.
On those windshield wipers slapping out a tempo.
Keeping perfect rhythm with the song on the radio.
I gotta keep rolling.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.

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Looking for a better way for me.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.
Looking for a sunny day.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.

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Looking for a better way for me.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.
Looking for a sunny day.
Yeah.
Ooh, I'm driving my life away.

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Looking for a better way for me.

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I tried to get in that car accident out of the way
that he was sitting in but he wouldn't even look at me
because I was sitting in my seat.
I was stung by a bee somehow, somehow twice.
Well, because I told him, I think if it was in your shirt,
the stinger got stuck in your shirt and then kept hitting you.

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Oh my gosh!
I didn't get stung by a bee twice!
And I was right on my hand and my my index finger like swole up like a sausage
We went to a Tom Petty concert that night. My finger was killing me the whole night. It's three days damn fingers swole up
Oh my goodness. I'm glad it stopped at your finger. My sister got stung on the finger once in her whole hand. It looked like one of those

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Doctors latex gloves that they used to blow up
Okay faces on him her whole hand
I've only been stung once I stepped on it when I was like eight or nine years old playing hopscotch with some little
bottom of the foot
Her home Depot once and a bee came out from a woodpile
Oh, yeah, how the other the plywood all stacked in there? Oh, yeah, and a bee came out and I saw it coming

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And I sat there watched it land and of course it stung me and there was a little kid right, you know
Just stand a couple feet feet for me. I'm like, oh man. Okay. Well, I went and told the guy says hey
I don't know you might want to check that woodpile, you know or something like that because a bee came out of it and stung me
And you know what he says he goes it happens

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That guy's been working in lumber for a while
I mean they could be five feet away and he's like
Like dude, just calm down relax. It's not gonna do anything. We had that episode
We were talking about those fears, huh? So bees are his yeah. Yeah for sure
Man, I said working on towers, right? So monopoles are just those big steel poles and

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For some reason they're not the first one
Working on towers, right? So monopoles are just those big steel poles and for some reason bees really like the communication towers
I don't know why but they'll make their hives inside of the towers. There was one it was about
About 20 feet from the top about 20 feet down of all honeycomb

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Oh my gosh, it was insane biggest biggest freaking beehive I've ever seen in my life. I'm gonna climb past it
No, heck no, we had to call the bee guy to come out and that's where we saw it
We're like, holy crap. That was a lot of bees
Pretty wild. I don't know why but for some reason they like living in our
Living in your towers. I wonder is there like a frequency?

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It's off or something. That's my that's my assumption. I'm not sure
Because there is you know frequencies that come out of the antennas and bees make frequencies when they flap their wings, I guess
Maybe they think there's a party going on. Oh
This antenna must be for the music

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They're all jamming out
All right, well shoot look songs about bees
Busy busy bee didn't uh, oh, yeah Ashley and Michael just did that one. That was a recent release
Yeah, busy bee, you know the song that comes to my mind about bees and it's not a radio

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It's a children's song. I'm bringing home a baby
We will not be playing that song
Country we're gonna edit the singing out. Where's the bleep button?

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We'll have the kids section here. Yes
kids
Ramona radio saving for everyone. I don't know Kirby and I might rock that
All right, Eric. What kind of a bee songs we we looking at on the list here or bug songs
Here's here's Ashley Michael deans, okay. Yeah, let's listen to that right here. Yeah. Yeah, we're not

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There's only so much time
In any given day
Been reaching out to you and what I've got to say
I feel like we could use a little romance in our lives
Come a little closer. We can snuggle up tonight
My love my little busy bee

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Can you spend some time with me? All I need is an hour with you
We can stop and smell the flowers too
You're buzzing round the clock. Are you ever gonna stop?
To spend a little time with me
My little busy bee

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Oh
It's not that I don't want to see you every single day
There are just so many strings in life. I feel I want to play
I hope you know you're on my mind with everything I do
When I snuggle up at night
It'll only be with you

(01:23:38):
My love I am a little busy bee
Can you spend some time with me? I can set aside an hour with you
We can stop and smell the flowers too
I'm buzzing round the clock and you say that I should stop
To spend a little time with me

(01:24:00):
My little busy bee
Take a bit more time and really give this love a chance

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I don't have a lot of room but I can save at least one dance
I've got so much to give and there's more that I could do
You're out trying to save the world but all I want to save is you
Cause you're my love my little busy bee
Can you spend some time with me? All I need is an hour with you

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We can stop and smell the flowers too
You're buzzing round the clock are you ever gonna stop?
To spend a little time with me
My little busy bee

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My little busy bee
My little busy bee
Girl I've been thinking about us and you know I ain't good at this stuff

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But these feelings piling up won't give me no rest
This might come out a little crazy, a little sideways, yeah maybe
I don't know how long it'll take me but I'll do my best
You'll be my salt and sweet, I'll be your strong and steady
You'll be my glass of wine, I'll be your shot of whiskey

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You'll be my sunny day, I'll be your shade tree
You'll be my honey supple, I'll be your honeybee
Yeah that came out a little country but every word was right on the money

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And I got you smiling honey right back at me
Now hold on cause I ain't done, there's more where that came from
Well you know I'm just having fun but seriously
You'll be my Louisiana, I'll be your Mississippi
You'll be my little Loretta, I'll be your Conway Twitty

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You'll be my sugar baby, I'll be your sweet iced tea
You'll be my honey supple, I'll be your honeybee

(01:27:25):
Your kiss just said it all, I'm glad we had this talk
Nothing left to do but fall into each other's arms
Could have said I love you, could have rolled you a line or two
Baby all I know to do is speak right from the heart
You'll be my salt and sweet, I'll be your strong and steady

(01:27:49):
You'll be my glass of wine, I'll be your shot of whiskey
You'll be my sunny day, I'll be your shade tree
You'll be my honey supple, I'll be your honeybee
You'll be my Louisiana, I'll be your Mississippi
You'll be my little Loretta, I'll be your Conway Twitty

(01:28:12):
You'll be my sugar baby, I'll be your sweet iced tea
You'll be my honey supple, I'll be your honeybee
I'll be your honeybee

(01:28:46):
That was Ashley Norton and Michael Dean Goodrich collaborating. That was pretty good.
And then Honeybee after that.
Honeybee, good ol' Blake Shelton.
I think that's what that one was called, right?
Yeah.
Here we got Busy Bee and Honeybee.
Busy Bee, Honeybee.
We sure know how to pull them out, right?
Feels like a lot of insects around here today.
I know, it's summertime in Ramona, man.
Right?
God almighty. It's a state bird coming out.

(01:29:08):
Well, I was going to say, at least we don't have birds flying around the studio yet.
It is early. It is early.
Oh man.
Sweet Curbs, were you always into country or were you into other kind of music?
When did you start liking country? Your whole life?
I've listened to nothing but country my whole life. My mom's from Fort Worth, Texas.
I grew up on country.

(01:29:30):
Well, yes, but in my mom's car growing up, she had Mary Chapin Carpenter, Abba, and John Cicada.
Three tapes?
Yeah. And Gloria Estefan.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh wow.
I could ride around with your mom.
Yeah, she was good at music. But if it was the radio, it was always country.
Were you always into country, Cassie?

(01:29:52):
Yeah, you know, I went through phases. I did my whole kind of punk scene.
And then I did a lot of glam rock in high school, hard rock.
I never really...
Country kind of woven into that.
I've always digged all kinds of music, but I was not always a big country fan.
I went to high school.
I was into ska music in high school. I liked like the Mighty, Mighty Boss Stones and stuff like that.

(01:30:14):
Ska?
Yeah.
I liked like grunge. I was a big grunge fan. I liked Pearl Jam a lot.
Oh yeah?
Yeah. Pearl Jam was great.
Pearl Jam.
And Nirvana.
TBR into grunge.
Right? Can you imagine? Seeing me with long hair.
I know when he told me Chris Cornell was one of his favorite singers, I was like, that's not even country.
No, I know. Chris Cornell is actually one of my favorite singers.

(01:30:35):
He's right up there with... I mean, performance wise, he's like Chris Stapleton.
If he hadn't have passed away, him and Chris Stapleton could have done a pretty cool collaboration together.
Did you ever get to see Chris Cornell?
No. Never did. That was one of the ones that when they died really hit me.
I was like, wow, that's a bummer.
And it's crazy because he was in Soundgarden, you know?

(01:30:58):
And then Audio Slave. And then he did a bunch of stuff on his own.
Wow. But you said something right before talking about that with Travis with long hair.
Can we talk about that?
Wait, was this a fashion statement?
I'm like, hold for a minute.
I had long hair.
You just skipped right over that part.
All throughout high school.
If you've seen the pictures, he's all lips and hair.

(01:31:19):
Oh, lips and hair.
Oh my goodness. We're going to need one of those to put up on the...
I'll see what I can find. Maybe we could... Yeah. Maybe that'll be the logo for the next...
Right.
Did you play that? Did you get into playing that music for a while?
So when I first got back to Ramona in 2008, I used to play at this bar in town.
I think it was every Thursday.

(01:31:41):
But I did. I did all 90s. I didn't even do country.
And then like, you know, people were requesting, you know, doing like Dwight Yolkma or whatever.
And I'm like, all right, I'll learn it.
I learned that Eddie Rabbit song, Drive My Life Away.
And then I don't know what happened.
I was just like, you know, I really like playing this country.
It's easier to play than like, you know, the grungy stuff on acoustic because I play acoustic.

(01:32:03):
Oh, goodness.
You know, I wrote a song called Bullet Train. It's not even a country song.
Hold. Hold. We got to find this.
I got the image of Travis with the long hair. And now we got to hear him play grunge.
I wrote this song in 2009, I think it was.
And I actually recorded it with John Hoss. It's just me.
Oh, really?

(01:32:24):
It was me on a 12 string guitar.
Wow. Well, you know, we're going to play it. I want to hear it.
I want to hear that. Let's dig it.

(01:33:29):
I love the page.
Wasted and on a page.
The color of pink is insane.
I can't believe this place.
It's sad and looking gray.
But danger it comes and fades.

(01:33:51):
Settle on this bullet train.
Settle on riding on this bullet train.
Wait for me if you want to.

(01:34:16):
Shake me if you dare.
I'm not a part of this prison.
I'm not even in my head.
I can't believe this place.
It's sad and looking gray.

(01:34:37):
But danger it comes and fades.
Settle on this bullet train.
Settle on riding on this bullet train.

(01:35:06):
All right.
That's wild, man.
Yeah.
Travis doing grunge.
All that needs is like a pedal steel guitar, too.
I've been selling my soul.
I bet that happened.
Oh, man.
I don't know why or what happened, but I just started doing country and I really love country now.

(01:35:29):
Pretty much all I listen to now is country.
It's good stuff. Good stories.
Yeah.
Good stories.
Good stuff.
I got to thinking, you know, we're going to have a name that tune segment here pretty soon.
And I want you guys to start thinking about what you're going to make the other person do because we're going to put some stakes on this.
All right.
Keep going.

(01:35:50):
From now on, I'm passing Travis's picture around.
Sorry.
You can't see it.
His long hair.
There's going to be a price to losing from now on.
All right.
Man, I'm going to get my ass kicked.
So think about what you're going to force the other person to do on the next show if they lose.
So you can start thinking about that.
We'll start thinking about that.

(01:36:12):
What is that picture of sweet curbs?
She is passing around a picture of you with long hair.
Yeah, that's me.
That's right.
So that's that's my Corvette.
So for those that cannot see this, we are going to put that up.
When I look at this, I see Travis like now looking at you.
I mean, obviously you can tell it's your son, but like this is Travis.
It does. It looks like him.
That's crazy.

(01:36:33):
We'll have this picture up on Facebook.
So right here, you can go look at Facebook now.
You know exactly what we're talking about.
Yeah.
So that was that was when I was I think it was probably about 18 years old in that picture.
And so that was my Corvette.
I bought a 1968 Corvette that did not run.
It had a 454 big block engine.

(01:36:55):
It was just long art.
No, it I mean, it did run.
It was a prop for these photos.
It was a project.
I bought it from a guy that lived down the road.
He just had it.
I bought it from him.
I did a lot of work to it.
But was that in South Carolina?
Yeah, I was in South Carolina, but I ended up leaving it there when I came back out here
because I couldn't drive two cars.
You know what I mean?
So I just left it there at my mom's house and then alongside my Jeep.

(01:37:20):
You had three cars too young.
Now we had a Tesla.
You could just program it and drive right behind you.
Yeah.
You have a parade of cars.
I don't know, man.
I don't trust those tests.
I don't think I could do that.
I've seen these videos.
I don't even trust cruise control.
I don't.
I don't.
I see these videos of these people getting in the car with no driver.
Like, how does that how does that work?

(01:37:41):
Yeah, that's a little scary.
Who is it?
Somebody who just posted that.
Autonomous vehicles.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'm a super geek.
I can't wait.
I can't wait until I get in the car and I can put the seat back and go to sleep.
And then I just show up.
Airplanes are next, Eric.
Airplanes are next.
Not my generation.
That's kind of what I do for a living.
We just don't put people in them yet.
Who's going to have to?

(01:38:03):
Maybe.
Actually, here's a different spin on it.
Maybe I would have driven sooner if I had a car that drove itself.
I know.
Sweet Curbs, you were how old were you when you got your license?
I was 29 and it was under duress.
Oh, my goodness.
My father said this is BS.
I made you an appointment and my seven years younger little brother took me and I used his car.
Man.

(01:38:24):
Oh, my God.
I was 15 and a half.
I'm like, Mom, I got to get my permit.
I was talking at the bit too.
Yeah, that was freedom.
I had my permit probably four times.
Yeah.
In South Carolina, you had to be you had to be 15 to drive, but you couldn't.
Yeah, it was like a restricted license.
You can only like drive to school and back during the daytime.
Couldn't drive at night and we couldn't drive outside of South Carolina.

(01:38:45):
Couldn't go to Augusta, Georgia, which was probably limitations.
Yeah, it was probably about 30 minutes away from where I lived in South Carolina right next to Augusta, Georgia.
So was it the fact that it was 30 minutes away or like crossing state lines crossing state lines because the law, I guess the laws are different in Georgia than South Carolina.
Yeah.

(01:39:06):
15 to drive.
Is that still the other?
I'm not sure.
Interesting.
It was when I was again.
But but yeah, they had restrictions.
You can only drive like to from school and certain things can't drive at night and you can't have passengers unless it's like your brother or sister or somebody.
Right.
Yeah, they do some of that.
No, it was we all went on our 16th birthday to get our driver's license.

(01:39:27):
That's what you that was your birthday party.
All my siblings.
Right.
I couldn't believe when I first got my license and I was first driving the car and I just felt so free.
Right.
I just felt like, man, I'm driving by myself like this.
I can I can turn right here if I wanted to.
Yeah, exactly.
It was like a really big sense of freedom.

(01:39:48):
Like, yeah, it was great for the first week.
For the first week, I'm like, look at me.
I'm a driver.
And then my mom goes, go to the store, go to the store, go to the store.
That's that was me as a mother.
I was like, no, you're getting your license because you need to take your little brother and you need to go do this.
And I'm tired of driving you around all your sporting events.
So kids, listen to that.
Back then we had Uber, but we weren't paid.

(01:40:09):
We were.
We were older sibling.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Now we played your your you know, your Nirvana esque song.
So we're going to pull everybody back in.
All right.
We're going to play an Aaron Lewis song.
OK, yeah.
That'll give you a few minutes to think about what's coming up next.
OK, coming up next is, you know, OK, name that tune, name that tune.

(01:40:31):
We got to figure out the punish.
What is what is what is the winner get?
What does the loser have to do?
Yeah.
The loser is going to have to do something on the next episode.
All right.
All right.

(01:41:02):
I'm trying to compete where I just don't fit in because a country if you call it that from
off the road, country just because I'm old enough to know that that ain't country.
That's a natural fact.
It's all the tales of good times and happy endings.

(01:41:26):
My life ain't like that.
Listen to the old songs that my granddad used to play.
The ones that got away, the ones that speak to me the way I feel today.

(01:42:03):
I mean, whatever happened to the country, songs full of truth and consequences, all
the things gone wrong.
Someone came and changed it up, made it all a lie.
Like it's been a little bitch not writing that new cycle.
That ain't country.
That's a natural fact.

(01:42:25):
It's full of tales of good times and happy endings.
My life ain't like that.
So I'll keep listening to the old songs that my granddad used to play.
Full of pain and heartache and desperation.
And the ones that got away, the ones that speak to me the way I feel today.

(01:43:07):
We got Waylon singing songs about a rambling man, and Junior's got a cold one in his hand.
And the possum's getting drunk again, imagine that.
And Charlie Daniel's laying fiddle underneath that hat.
And John and Junior going back and forth again.
And David Alan Cohen singing about his kid.

(01:43:31):
And Hagrid sings the songs that'll save your soul.
Charlie sings the songs about the hearts he stole.
God, that shit's country.
That's a natural fact.
It's full of tales of hard times and complications.
Ain't life like that.

(01:43:53):
So I'll keep listening to the old songs that my granddad used to play.
Full of pain and heartache and desperation.
And the ones that got away, the ones that speak to me the way I feel today.

(01:44:16):
The ones that speak to me the way I feel today.

(01:44:40):
Oh man, I feel like that song was about my song.
It might have been.
There might have been some sign language going on over here going, that ain't country.
That ain't country.
I told you it wasn't country.
Okay, so we've come up with some game rules.
All right, here we go.
It's coming.

(01:45:02):
And I'll announce a little change to the rules here in a moment, okay?
All right, it's time for Name That Tune.
And I'm going to give a super quick recap.
I'm going to play a song.
You can name the title or the artist.
If you get one of those, you get five seconds to name the other part or the other person can steal the point.
Pretty simple?

(01:45:23):
Cool.
All right.
Okay.
All right, so here's what's going to happen from now on.
We're going to make this a little more challenging.
And we're going to make you really fight.
Okay?
Not that we don't already.
Because I mean, that's like the best part is listening to you and Kirby just yell at each other for two minutes.
A whole episode with no birds in the studio.
We got to make this more interesting.

(01:45:44):
I know, right?
A lot of birds flying around this place.
There's going to be a huge price to pay if you lose.
All right.
What's the consequences?
This is it.
All right, Kirby, if you lose tonight, next week, you have to start every segment after every break.
You have to say my wee little butt before you can say anything.
My wee little butt.

(01:46:05):
Yes.
And you have to say it in an Irish accent.
In an Irish accent.
And if you forget, you're going to take a drink.
All right.
All right.
Travis, if you lose, you're going to start every segment after every break by finally admitting that George Strait is in fact a god.
George Strait is a god.
His consequence might be a little worse than mine.

(01:46:26):
It motivates me.
Motivates me.
There's two points of motivation there, right?
I just can't wait to get all the different sound clips of Travis saying George Strait is a god.
I want to be very sarcastic with you.
George Strait is a god.
Can't say it like that.
You have to say it like you mean it.
So that's what's going to happen, all right?

(01:46:47):
Everybody agree to the rules?
All right.
Well, let's do something else for this one.
All right.
So if I get one right, then you got to take a drink of that whiskey.
And if you get one right, I got to take a drink of some whiskey.
What if we get a one in one?
Is that a wash and no one has to take a drink?
If I get one, you get one.
I think the referees, both over here agree, if you tie, then you both drink.

(01:47:11):
All right, hold on, let me get this.
Fair enough.
I was just trying to make it through my evening.
Let me get a little bit more of this whiskey because I have a feeling I'm going to be drinking a lot.
It's bedtime after this, Curb.
All right, we're getting ready to go.
All right.
We do our pre-cheers.
Cheers.
Our pre-toast.
Tink, tink, tink, tink, tink.
Okay.
Cheers.

(01:47:32):
Cheers across.
I love the rainy night.
Eddie Rabbit.
All right, take a drink, sweet Curbs.
Two-nothing Travis.
All right, ready for the next one?
Yes.
18 Wheels.

(01:47:56):
Kathy Matea.
God dang it.
And there goes Travis with the whiskey.
Two-two.
All right, here we go.
George Jones.
He stopped loving her today.
You know what, I'm going to have to interject.
It is not fair that you play songs that you play.

(01:48:17):
You've got to know his whole repertoire and not play anything on that.
Take a drink.
Take a hike.
How about that?
Oh, and the birds are back.
Travis has a very big set list, so that's going to be a little tough to make sure that don't happen.
All right, here we go.

(01:48:46):
No?
Smokey Mountain Rain.
Oh, I know who sings it.
Ronnie Millsap.
Oh, you already passed five seconds.
I don't know, I was right on the edge.
Did you know who it was?
No, I didn't.
All right, we're giving out the Curbs.
We are back tied at four.

(01:49:07):
I'll have you be quiet then.
Dang it.
There we go.
Grandpa.
I think he got it.
He did.
You got five seconds.
Grandpa.
Drink up, sweet Curbs.
Drink up.
Well, okay, but for real though, what happens if we say it at the same time?
He said Judd's I say Grandpa.
No points, but I both drink.

(01:49:28):
That would be a tie and you both drink, no points.
But I did say it first though.
We said it at the same time, you said Judd's I say Grandpa.
It was super close.
Okay, everybody drink and we'll review it later for the points.
All right, I'll drink anyway.
Cheers, sweet Curbs.
I'm not cheersing you.
Now look what you've done.
We'll have to send it up to the booth for a replay.
Damn, the birds are getting bigger.
Dang.
There's stakes now.
This is every man for himself.

(01:49:49):
I told you.
I know, I love it.
All right.
Alabama.
Hmm.
God, I know it.
I thought it was Alabama too.
Oh, Waylon Jennings.
In America?
Yeah.
There you go.
All right.
Oh, this is a great song, man.
So we did give Kirby one point on the last one.
You did.
You did.
You did.

(01:50:10):
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
You did.
And so we are now at the end of the show.
We're going to move on to the next one.
We're going to move on to the next one.
We're going to move on to the last one.
You got two.
All right.

(01:50:31):
But you got two on this one as well.
So we are now at...
Did you drink, sweet curbs?
I didn't see you drink.
I always felt half of it on my lap.
I'm mad at you.
You don't cheers me.
All right.
Here comes the next one.
All right.
Tim McGraw.
I'm so interested to see you smile.
Yeah.

(01:50:52):
That's true.
I knew this song came.
Seven, eight.
Drink up, Trav.
All right.
Cheers.
Oh, man.
I didn't lose, but I'm going to drink with you.
I love your support, Kat.
I'm getting thirsty over here.
When do I get to drink?
We appreciate it.
All right.
Here comes the next one.

(01:51:13):
I honestly have no idea.
No?
Loretta Lynn?
No idea.
It's not Reba.
Tammy Wynette.
Tammy Wynette.

(01:51:34):
I know.
I knew it was an older...
That's why I said Loretta Lynn.
I knew it wasn't any...
All right.
That means you're a little older.
You both have to drink on that one.
All right.
Both drinking.
seven miles.
Dang it.
Two losers.
Seven to eight, Travis and Lee.
Here comes the next one.
It's not Marty Robbins.

(01:52:12):
Any guess?
The roots of my raising.
Merle Haggard.
Merle Haggard.
Right.
Curbs got a drink.
Drink up, sweet Curbs.
We are at seven to nine.
You can tie it up with the next one.

(01:52:38):
Loretta Lynn.
Mississippi Man.
Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man.
Mississippi Man.
We came together.
Conway Twitty.
You wasted your time.
You didn't know.
He was the first one to come up with both the artists.
Well, I knew it, but he passed his time.
You counted down.
I didn't get my chance.
It's like, oh, we didn't get a ding or a buzzer on that one either.
All right.
That doesn't count.
Sorry.
Yeah, we'll call this one out.

(01:52:59):
I lost.
Oh, man.
Now, to all of you, we're going to have to do a little
bit of a
countdown.
All right.
I didn't get anything out of that.
Dang it.
All right.
Here we go.
All right.
A couple of years back, I came across a great wasted friend of mine.

(01:53:19):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Hare?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Ho?
Go ahead.
I didn't get a ding.

(01:53:40):
You were putting on a blanket?
Oh, I almost did, sir.
I did.
Joey Bale saidları, Joe Biden said very badly.
Iби Oh, yeah, I was, okay.
I have no idea.
Nobody knows?
No.
Everybody drink.
What the...
Christopher Stopperson.
That wasn't an accent.
So we have to implement another rule.
You can't just yell out...
Cause I do it too.
I'm not just saying you.
You can't just say names of artists until you get a ding.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, if you call something out that is your guess if you're wrong shut up, okay?

(01:54:07):
Yes, until she guesses wrong
Here we go
On one hand Randy Travis on one hand
I

(01:54:28):
What is that thing that you have to say or you're gonna have to say
Here we go
I
Know the song do you lost in the liquor?

(01:55:00):
No
Killing time

(01:55:20):
Randy Travis compact. Oh god. All right. We just got one on that one
Yeah
All right, we got time for about two more here we go you gotta run it curbs
I

(01:55:52):
Mary Chapin partner. No, he's done
Is it Shelley right
Well timber and falling in love but well since you both canceled out you were the first one to name the song so who sings it
They get five seconds

(01:56:12):
I have no idea how to love list
I'm terrible with the girl names. All right, nine to twelve
All right, let's see let's go with

(01:56:36):
Well now some
Mamas don't let your babies grow up with the Cowboys negative you have a chance
Pursue and the life of my high-riding

(01:57:01):
That's the Cowboys song
The modern ways I'm gonna give you guys about five more seconds. Don't you hold the cowboy way?
Curbs anything just take what you need
My heroes have always been
God dang it
Of a sad country song look at sorry, it's on

(01:57:25):
913 all right
All right, give me two more because I can tie it
We can't do that. Unfortunately, we're out of time
Here comes your last one
Oh, we get one more last one more

(01:57:47):
The song looking for love
Kenny Rogers, is it Ronnie Mills up again?
Oh, I know
Go for it single bars and good time you can't
Go bars and good time you came up with the song he guessed

(01:58:07):
You're it's a free-for-all if you know who it is. Is it don williams?
Johnny lee johnny lee. All right. It looks like I won sweet curbs
All right, sweet curbs. Did you want to did you want to practice you want to practice run?
I will say just a wee bit of bullshit because they play songs that you play
But it's fine. It's fine. We're gonna do a full abba round next week

(01:58:30):
A wee bit of bullshit. Kirby you agreed to the terms. It's all
What is it you have to say oh
What is it? My little back my wee little butt my wee little butt. My wee little butt says this is a wee little bullshit
I've written it on your notepad. So we don't forget and guess what else guess what else george straight is not the king of country

(01:58:54):
Oh, you just wait
You will rue the day don't worry i'll lose it i'll lose it
Travis let us go home. All right, man. Thank you guys so much
For hanging out with us on this beautiful sunday to this travis billy ross the outlaw country show
Thank you to our guests sweet curves cassie
And john hanncock earlier
And eric goforth and ramona radio

(01:59:17):
You guys have a great rest of your week. God bless you
I turned to a stranger
Stranger just like a friend. I was looking for love in all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces searching their eyes

(01:59:37):
Looking for traces of what i'm dreaming of
Hoping to find a friend and a lover
I bless the day I discover another heart
Looking for love