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May 27, 2025 6 mins

Timmerie sits down with Katy Faust, the fierce, truth-telling founder of Them Before Us, to talk about something that should be obvious but somehow isn’t anymore: why kids need their mom and their dad

 


 

The Truth Your 4-Year-Old Already Gets

 

Timmerie kicks things off with a conversation she had with her 4-year-old daughter, who declared (with all the sass and certainty only a preschooler can muster):

 

t’s not true. They’re lying. Kids need a mommy and a daddy.

 

Out of the mouths of babes.

 

In a world where everything is questioned (including whether moms and dads are interchangeable), this little girl sees reality clearly... and so does Katy Faust.

 


 

The Cultural Crisis: When Kids Are the Casualties

 

Katy explains how our culture has flipped the script. Instead of asking what children need, we now ask what adults want and then use kids to fulfill it. She explains why this is a major problem:

 

Kids Have a Right to Their Mom and Dad

 

Not just “a” mom or “a” dad... their biological parents. They’re the ones wired to love and protect that child in a uniquely fierce, sacrificial way. 
Adoption, Katy says (as an adoptive mom herself), is a loving response to tragedy, not a model for how we should design families from the start.

 

Biological Identity = Personal Identity

 

Children deeply need to know: "Whose am I?"


When kids are cut off from their origins: via IVF, surrogacy, anonymous sperm donors, it fractures their sense of self. 

 

Gender Balance Isn't Optional. It’s Essential.

 

Men father. Women mother. They do it differently. That’s a gift, not a glitch.
Two dads, two moms, or three poly-partners can't replicate the complementarity of a mom and a dad. And when we pretend otherwise, kids pay the price... often through confusion, identity struggles, or even increased risk of abuse.

 


 

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