Financial Tips for Creatives with Perry Nunes from Found

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo, where
we blend rock-solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
professional photographer atyour service.
We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
business and playing withmanifestation over here.
So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
Let's dive in.
Happy Wednesday.

(00:25):
Welcome back to Tried and truewith a dash of woo.
I am your host, renee bowen,and I am excited to chat with
you guys today about a topicthat most of you probably don't
want to talk about, but thatmeans you must.
Okay, as tony robbins alwayssays, if you can't, you must.
I know that talking about yourfinances and and how to organize

(00:45):
them is not something that isfun or interesting to most of us
creatives, but it is necessaryand I found a phenomenal
resource for you that we aregoing to introduce you to on
this podcast.
Quick disclaimer this is asponsored podcast.
I'm working in collaborationwith Found and we are going to

(01:09):
introduce you to what Found isand what it can do for your
business.
But here's the thing I do notendorse products that I don't
actually use and believe in, soyou need to know that going in,
I think this is a really greatresource and, yes, it's a
collaboration, but I don't justdo straight ads and things like
that.
I think this is a really greatresource and, yes, it's a
collaboration, but I don't justdo straight ads and things like
that.
I want you guys to actually getsome education on the things

(01:33):
that I believe in.
So today I'm speaking with Perryand he is with Found.
He's going to walk us throughthe platform so that you can
actually see what it is capableof, because unless you actually
see it, it's going to still feelforeign to you.
Also, if you're listening on apodcast platform, you're

(01:54):
probably going to want to goover to the YouTube channel and
watch it, because he is walkingus through and sharing his
screen.
So below in the show notes,you're going to find the link to
my YouTube channel.
Click that and you'll see thevideo.
That's what I would prefer thatyou do for this episode,
because I think it's importantfor you to see how cool this

(02:14):
platform is and how effective itcan be for your business.
Okay, so we're going to getright to it.
Let's jump in.
Hey guys, welcome back to theshow, where we dive deep into
turning your creative passionsinto a thriving business.
I'm Renee, your host, and todaywe're tackling a topic that
touches every single one of usmanaging our business finances

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with ease and, hopefully, someinsight.
Today we're joined by Perryfrom Found, the all-in-one
banking app that'srevolutionizing how freelancers
and entrepreneurs handleeverything from bookkeeping to
taxes, so we're going to explorehow integrating tools like
Found can not only simplify yourfinancial workflow, but also
empower you to make smarter,more informed decisions that

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propel your photography businessforward.
Hey Perry, thanks for joiningus here today.
I am very excited to have thisconversation with you, because
it is something that's so, soneeded in our community.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Thanks for having me, Renee, for the kind intro.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, of course.
So Perry is going to be showingus around.
So, just as a side note, I knowthat if you're listening, you
can still definitely listen tothe podcast, but he's actually
going to be showing us aroundfound, and so he's going to be
sharing his screen.
So this is also going to be upon YouTube for you guys.

(03:35):
So definitely check that out.
The link for that's going to bein the show notes so that you
can find it easily.
And, just as a side note too, Icreated a PDF for you guys
that's also going to sort ofhelp you with all of this stuff
and help keep you organized.
So make sure that you get thatlink from the show notes as well
and follow along there.

(03:56):
So, yeah, I'm excited, let'slet's dive in very Share my
screen to make this a bit easier.
I'll sit back over to you todive in.
Okay, yeah, I can see all ofthat.
So, as you know, cause you andI have had this conversation
before and you know we've beentalking in my Facebook group as

(04:16):
well with the photographersthere.
We know that this is like a bigpoint of contention for people
just in general finding aplatform that is going to work
for us, that's going to do whatwe needed to do and also, like,
not make us feel superoverwhelmed.
So, you know, on the live, wewere talking about how a lot of

(04:39):
people just don't look at ourresources even like enough, but
sometimes at all, right, yeah,so I know that that's a big, big
problem and you know we weredefinitely talking about ways of
, you know, making that more fun, and I'm a big believer in all
of that.
But I want you to kind of walkus through what that could look

(05:04):
like, right?
So, for someone like us,someone who is a freelancer, a
photographer, and how that couldwork for us using found as well
, because I feel like it's sonice when people have a visual.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
For sure, yeah, and I find it's often helpful to
start this conversation aroundlike what is the status quo?
How are people currently doingthis today?
You know and Found has beenaround for several years and has
worked with tens of thousandsof freelancers, and so I pulled
together a snapshot of whatwe've seen that freelancers and

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self-employed finances oftenlook like with the example of my
good friend, phyllis, who's aphotographer and I'd love you to
chime in and add some morecolleague here because I know
you're a photographer yourself.
You work with a lot of folks ina variety of coaching programs
but I think Phyllis is reallyrepresentative of kind, of the
opportunity, but also thestruggle of being self-employed.

(06:03):
So, phyllis, she started awedding photography business,
big money there, she loves it,she captured that special day
and it actually started as aside hustle.
She was a full-time W2 employeeworking in marketing, was doing
this on the side and thenrealized like wow, this actually
has some legs and this couldbecome a full-time thing.
It's a story we heard time andtime again of like side hustlers
turned, turned passion project,turned career.

(06:25):
She's a sole prop and she's theonly employee, so she she's a
one one woman show, but she doesoften work with a lot of other
self-employed people, and that'ssomething we often see with
folks that are working forthemselves and have their own
businesses.
They often have a lot of othercontractors and subcontractors
they're working with a lot ofother contractors and
subcontractors they're workingwith so photographers I know

(06:47):
we've talked a lot about secondshooters or lighting
collaborators, designcollaborators, where you're
often paying each other andpassing projects together and
collaborating in various ways,but sometimes there's a lot of
administrative work that comeswith that, even if you're not a
full-time employee, and so we'lltalk a little bit as we dive
into Found about how we managesome of that complexity and make
it super easy to collaboratewith other self-employed folks.

(07:08):
Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And then the last thing I'll say is I mean just in
terms of lifestyle.
Here I mean, phyllis loves theindependence of running her own
business, but there's a lot ofthe thing time and time again
she says is there's a lot oflike financial and
administrative overhead forbeing your own boss.
You don't have, you know the,you don't have your company to
be taking care of things liketax withholdings.

(07:31):
In terms of managing you haveto be kind of not only a
photographer but also a CFO andan accountant and all these
other roles that that folks inbigger businesses will play for
you.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, it all falls on us and so that's really a lot
of pressure.
I feel like so many of uscreatives, right, we, like you
said, we kind of like Phyllis wefall into it and then we
realize, oh my God, I actuallyhave to know what I'm doing when
it comes to like the numbers,and no one else is going to come
to save me.
So, yeah, this is a big, it's abig issue For sure, and because

(08:06):
of that, phyllis's finances arekind of all over the place.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So she'll, she'll be the first to say this.
It was like she, as she startedthis on the side hustle, she
decided, oh, I'll, just I'll,I'll send invoices and have
people pay me in my personalbank account.
I don't need a separatebusiness bank account.
Um she, she Googled, like howdo I do bookkeeping?
And got QuickBooks and triedQuickBooks, but quickly got lost
in it.
It was like way too complicatedand way too expensive.

(08:30):
And so now she literally has aGoogle Sheet that she tracks her
expenses so she can findpotential write-offs.
She will like auto attachreceipts into a folder.
It's like really clunky.
Really manual Taxes she has anentirely separate workflow and
she tried TurboTax, but therewas all these nuances about
being self-employed, and soshe's now looking for an
accountant to help.

(08:52):
And then she has a bunch ofother tools.
She doesn't want to create herown invoices, so she uses an
invoicing tool.
Business has really picked upand so she started to use her
own CMS as a separate tool.
And then a lot of folks want topay in a variety of different
ways, so she uses demo, she usesCash App and so she has like
half a dozen different toolsshe's using for business
finances and it's really hard tokeep track of, particularly

(09:14):
around tax deadlines and goalplanning for each of the years
coming up.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yep, phyllis is a lot like the people that I work
with, so yeah, I get it, I wasPhyllis.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Totally, and so Phyllis is not alone.
I believe you did this poll, soI'll let you run through this,
but this is a really interestingsnapshot of, like the general
population of photographers andwhere they stand in terms of
their financial organization.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, super common.
This is a poll that I had donein my Facebook group just
recently asking people like youknow, where are you kind of at
with all of this?
How organized are you?
You know everything from.
How often do you look at yourfinances and all that kind of
stuff?
And really this was the maintakeaway here is that very few

(10:03):
people are super organized abouthow everything looks.
There's always that smallpercentage and you know that's
awesome, but for the most part,it is this you know this middle,
this middle one here.
Like I know what I'm supposedto do, like I've heard what I'm
supposed to do or somebody'stold me, but I'm not really
organized and I just kind ofleave it to the last minute,

(10:25):
because it's just like anythingelse, if you don't like doing it
and if it's not, you know, fun,it's so much easier to like.
Just put that aside, because wehave so many hats that we have
to wear in our business and somany things that we have to do.
So that just gives a left untilyou absolutely have to deal
with it, which is usually taxtime and that's not a good place
to be.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Just gives a left until you absolutely have to
deal with it which is usuallytax time, and that's not a good
place to be.
Totally yeah, why?
Why be organizing the books orpreparing tax paperwork when you
could be writing a creativebrief or doing a photo shoot?
I totally hear you.
And so we'll talk a lot aboutthis kind of this emotional and
like psychological side ofrunning your own business and
how found has been specificallydesigned with simplicity and
automation in mind andconsolidation in mind, so

(11:06):
hopefully it can streamline alot of that and give you peace
of mind, while also letting youfocus on what you actually love,
which probably isn't paperwork.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, but enough about the problem.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Let's switch gears and talk about Found which I'm
excited to walk you through theplatform.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Me too.
I was pleasantly surprised bythe platform when I logged in.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Amazing.
Can you see my screen?
Now it should show found.
I can.
It's saying hello to you, renee, at the top here with hi, renee
, perfect.
This is not for full disclosure.
This is not Renee's formalaccount.
This is a sample account, butthis is illustrative of what
you'll see within the Foundplatform.
Yeah, one thing I'll say beforewe dive in.
I know my compliance team wantsme to read one disclaimer which

(11:52):
is necessary whenever we'retalking, so to keep me honest,
I'll read this out loud.
But yeah, I just want toreiterate.
You know Found's a financialtechnology company, we're not a
bank.
So the actual banking servicesare provided by PureMount Bank,
which is a partner of oursmember FDIC.
The funds of your account areFDIC insured to $250,000 per

(12:12):
depositor for each accountownership category, and the
Found MasterCard business debitcard is issued by Piermont Bank
pursuant to a license fromMasterCard Incorporated and may
be used everywhere MasterCarddebit cards are accepted.
Found's core features are free,but we also offer a paid
product, found plus.
I know it's the fine print, butit's good to say up front yeah,

(12:36):
and we'll dig into some of thatas we click through the
platform and what that all meansin terms of the banking
experience provided to ourbanking partner.
Now back to the fun stuff.
And so, yeah, as we talked a lotabout thus far in this call is
you know, running your ownbusiness is often like very
disjointed across a lot ofdifferent tools, and we find a

(12:57):
lot of people like Phyllis areusing, you know, one business
banking provider, one tool forbookkeeping, one tool for
invoicing, and it's really hardto keep track of all those
different processes,particularly when those
processes are interrelated.
So, for example, in your bankaccount you have all these
different expense information,but if you want to flag those
expenses as being a taxdeduction, you need to import

(13:20):
that to a tax software or importthat into QuickBooks for
bookkeeping, and it becomes abig administrative pain to be
able to manage all thisdifferent data in all these
different places.
And so our founders realizedthis and thought why not build
this all into one app?
Why not have a business bankaccount, a full-featured
business bank account, where youcan add money, move money, pay

(13:41):
people, have a debit card linkedto that but then also build in
all these embedded tools aroundtaxes, bookkeeping, invoices
without even leaving that app?
And so today we'll walk throughthe desktop experience of what
that looks like.
On Found.
We also do have a really sleekmobile app that a lot of our
users prefer to use, justbecause it's quick, easy, you

(14:02):
can do it on the go.
But for today we'll jump intothe desktop experience, and so
when you land here you'll seekind of the core banking
homepage, and so this is whereyou can see a snapshot of
everything going on in yourfound account, and so at the top
you'll see your total balance,which is all the money in your
found account.
There's ways to add money.
So, like several bank accountsout there, you can get direct

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deposit.
You can add money to your bankaccount through a bank and wire
transfer.
You can deposit cash or checkor, if you're using other
popular apps like Cash App andMo.
Those are all ways of gettingmoney into your account.
And then, similarly, you canmove money, and so that's both
moving money to yourself, whichis like in between different sub
accounts, which we'll talkabout in just a second, called

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pockets.
You can send.
If you say you have, like apersonal bank account that you
want to be transferring money up, to say, a portion of your
business income.
You want to be paying yourself,you can do so there to a debit
card, or if you want to send itto others.
So if you're working with otherpeople and you want to pay them
as a contractor, we'll talkabout how you can do that in
Found and manage a lot of thecomplexity in doing so or

(15:07):
otherwise paying other people orother businesses just like any
full featured, online onlybusiness bank account.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'd say the first big difference between Found and
any other business bank accountis the ability to set up what we
call pockets.
And so, you see, here we haveour total balance here about the
left, but then underneath wehave several of these, um kind
of some smaller sub accounts orpockets, pools, sub pools of
money, um, that have differentnames and are for different, um,

(15:37):
either budget you know,budgeting for different parts of
your business or for differentsavings goals you've set up as
part of your business, and so,by default, your founding
account comes with two differentpockets your primary pocket,
which think about as your mainpool of money.
that's where money is, bydefault, getting deposited into
your account as well as yourtaxes pocket, and so I know last

(15:58):
week we talked a lot about oneof the big financial mistakes
that freelancers andself-employed people often make
is not having a tax strategy inplace.
Yeah, and a big part of that is, you know, when you work for
yourself, you're not havingtaxes withheld from your
paycheck from your employer.
Each month, you also have topay self-employment tax, and so,

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as you're gearing up to pay ona quarterly basis your estimated
quarterly taxes, a lot ofpeople will realize like, oh
crap, I didn't set aside enoughmoney here and they get hit by
an unexpected tax bill, whichcan be a really painful process,
particularly if you don't havethat money in your account
anymore.
And so what Found has reallydone is, with the taxes pocket,

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what we'll do is allow you toautomatically set aside a
proportion of any income cominginto your found account and set
that aside in this sub accountfor taxes, so they give like a
tax savings pocket.
So if I click in here, I cansee that there's all these
different income streams that Ihave into my found account.

(17:02):
Microsoft I did a collaborationwith Eventbrite, youtube there
are two wedding shoots and if Igo into the settings of this
pocket, I can see that, oh wow,there's actually a percentage
that has been set for all of theincome coming into my found
account that I'm gonna beautomatically moving into this
taxes pocket.
So this can be smart.
This can be a smart percentagewhere found will automatically

(17:23):
kind of recommend whatpercentage of your income we
should be setting into the taxespocket based off of some
information about your business,about your income, about your
filing status, or you can setyour own percentage and so you
can say hey, I know that I livein New York State, I know the
tax rates and I know my fullfinancial profile, and so I want
to set 25% of all incomingincome into my account to go

(17:47):
automatically into my taxespocket.
Nice.
And then, lastly, you can setnone, and you can manually
transfer between pockets at anytime.
So if you want to be able tokind of get a recurring exercise
, maybe during that weekly date,with your money, to transfer
money manually, you can also doso free of cost.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Sweet, that's awesome .
That makes it so much easier.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Totally yeah.
And we've seen people do thisin spreadsheets, where they'll
keep it all in their mainbusiness bank account and then
they'll have different lineitems in a spreadsheet, and we
felt like, why not allow you tovisually see where all these
different pools of money are andthen put it on autopilot and
say, hey, I'll let Found give mea smart percentage I should be
setting aside?
I'll then be able to actuallygenerate my tax forms based off

(18:31):
of this financial data whichwe'll cover in a bit and even
file my taxes from the Found appwith that information.
Therefore, I don't have totoggle between tabs, between the
Excel spreadsheet, betweenTurboTax.
I can do it all in Found.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
That is so helpful and, honestly, just the visual
of it is so nice.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very much a visual learner.
I imagine a lot ofphotographers are.
And then the fun thing is youcan set little custom colors and
icons as well for the designfolks out there to make your
banking experience a bitprettier, which is not a
sentence that's often said.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
That's actually really helpful because I mean,
you know, as we talked aboutbefore in the live and just in
general you guys are probablyhear me talk about that a lot
you know, like if if we likedoing it, we'll do it, and so
you got to trick your brain intothinking that it's fun.
So it's cool that you cancustomize that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, definitely, and so those are the two, that.
Those are the two pockets thatcome by default the primary
pocket and the taxes pocket.
You'll see here though that inthis account we have a few other
different pockets that havebeen set up for either different
savings goals so gear andequipment or for different kind
of like expense categories orlike portions of your business.
So here there's money set asideto pay second shooters.

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Here there's a rainy day fundwhich is currently empty, but I
bet this person's focusing onfilling that up.
So if you click into each ofthese pockets, each of these can
have different depositallocations that you set when
you're creating the pocket.
So in this case, the gear andequipment pocket Renee here is
setting 10% of every incomingdeposit aside to save up for,

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say, a new camera or a new pieceof lighting equipment.
She has a savings goal attachedto this one, saying, okay, I
know that that equipment's goingto cost $5,000.
And so she can see how she, inreal time, is tracking against
that of just over $2,500 here.
And she can even link a specificvirtual card that only can be

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used when using the funds withinthat pocket.
What that means is I talked alittle bit about how we offer
you a business checking accountwith all these different
sub-accounts.
We also offer you a physicalbusiness debit mastercard, so a
debit card you can use for allyour business expenses.
We also, if you click into thecards tab, in addition to that

(20:52):
physical card, allow you to setup virtual cards.
So these are these are cardsthat are with just numbers that
you can use online, and you canyou can assign different virtual
cards for different categoriesof your business, and so this is
really helpful because you can.
You can.
This allows you to really sticklike create a budget based off

(21:13):
of what are the differentexpense categories or parts of
your business, or even entireseparate businesses that you
have, and then make sure thatyou're managing your expenses so
that you're only spendingexpenses when you actually have
the money within that category,within that pocket.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, that, I love that.
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, and I remember.
So last week we talked a lotabout another big mistake is not
having a budget and also nothaving a budget based on cash
flow, this concept of like howmuch money is coming into my
account, how much money is goingout, and then how can I budget
based off of that, and so,between the banking tab and the
cards tab, it's a reallypowerful system of budgeting and

(21:54):
cashflow-based budgeting whereyou can set up different pockets
for different goals ordifferent parts of your business
.
You can automatically make surethat you're kind of filling up
those reservoirs as you getincome based off of these
deposit allocations that you set, and then you can auto-assign
virtual cards to make sure thatyou're controlling your spend
relative to how much money is ineach pocket.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
That is so cool, like and again, like I know it seems
like a lot like to kind ofthink about, but the way that
it's set up I don't know itvisually makes it so much easier
for me to.
It just feels better.
I can't explain it and it kindof just makes everything feel a
lot more calm.
You know, because, likehistorically, when I log into

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any kind of banking thing, it'sjust like ah, it's a lot, and
those of us with, likeoverstimulated brains it'll shut
us down.
So, like I don't know, I thinkthis is very aesthetically
pleasing as well.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
That's great to hear.
I'll pass along your feedbackto our design team.
Yeah, we're very proud of thedesign, and this is.
This is again.
This is the desktop experience.
There's a really sleek mobileapp as well, for iOS and Android
.
That's all equally calming andin the palm of your hand, so I
highly recommend folks checkthat out.
So these are two.
This is kind of the centralnervous system your, your, your,
your banking tab and the cardstab, where you can create

(23:10):
virtual cards and assign them topockets and set spending limits
based off each card.
I do also want to double clickinto the taxes piece.
So we talked a little bit aboutthe taxes pocket and how you
can auto set aside moneydynamically for taxes, because
those quarterly tax paymentscome up pretty quickly and you
want to make sure you haveenough money.
We do have a separate taxes tabwhich will pull in that

(23:34):
information on how much money isin your taxes pocket, as well
as in real time.
We'll give you what do we thinkthat your tax estimate will be,
and so that's both acombination of how much federal
income tax and then, in the caseof this account, the person's
based in New York City or NewYork State, rather.
So how much state tax, and then, in the case of this account,
the person's based in New YorkCity or New York State, rather.
So how much state tax.
You'll note that there's aslight difference in between

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these two, and that's becausethis is how much you set aside,
based off of all the income.
The tax estimate will then alsotake into account.
If you tag various expenses inyour account as tax deductions,
it'll lower your taxable incomeand therefore give you update in
real time what your taxestimate be and so we'll talk a
little bit about what that lookslike in the app as we move to

(24:18):
the activity tab, but really,really powerful in that because
we are your bank account, wehave all your income information
, we have all your expenseinformation and allow you to tag
expenses as tax deductions, wecan in real time calculate this
is how much we think you owe fortaxes.
Wow, and even better, thecherry on top is we can help
facilitate you actually filingyour taxes through the app.

(24:41):
So we work with a partner, calland Tax, where you can click
start filing.
You can securely share and syncyour data from found to Call
and Tax and then actuallyprepare your taxes and file your
taxes online in that way, sweet.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
That is super cool.
Yeah, I love that real-timeestimate.
That's awesome.
Yeah, again, like those littlethings that you don't think
about, that really make a bigdifference.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Totally Like those little things that you don't
think about, that really make abig difference Totally.
And you'll see the experiencewhen you, in just a second, when
you tag an expense as a taxdeduction and you get a little
like real-time dopamine rushwhen you say, oh, actually, by
tagging that I saved X amount onmy tax bill.
I'll show you that in just asecond.
I love that, and so activity iswhat I was alluding to, which is

(25:31):
this will look similar to likea bank statement or a credit
card statement, where you'll seeall of the different income and
expenses, as well as any pockettransfers that happen between
those different sub-accounts,all on a list sorted by date,
and there's ability to do a lotof fun things here in terms of
categorization and tagging tostay organized on your books.

(25:52):
This is a lot simpler relativeto some of the other like
bookkeeping software out therewhere you're getting kind of
swallowed in this complex logicof rules.
We try to keep this supersimple, specifically designed
for solopreneurs and businessowners who are owner operators
and work for themselves anddon't have a finance department.
And so you'll see here thebottom May 3rd, I had a really

(26:15):
productive day and I got all ofthis different income from
Eventbrite, youtube, twodifferent wedding shoots, but
you'll also see a bunch ofdifferent expenses in here.
So not only is this trackingincome, but it's also tracking
all the different businessexpenses that could be potential
write-offs and could bepotentially lowering that tax
bill.
And so here, for example,benihana this was on May 3rd.

(26:35):
I went on a business dinner toBenihana, so it's a tax
deductible expense.
However, it doesn't have acategory yet.
So what I can do is I can clickinto Benihana.
It says needs category andthere's an ability to if one of
these two tools.
So this is not a contractorservice, this is not a software
subscription, but I can searchdown this library of different

(26:57):
business expense categories, andso in this case, I'll search
for meals.
Great Business meals is acategory.
I'll select that and, wow aha,I saved $12.37 on taxes by
categorizing that businessexpense.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's awesome.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, it's a, it's a.
It's a nice little moments ofjoy while you're in the middle
of your it is.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It is like, honestly, because this part of it and I
always recommend like doing thisstuff once a week, you guys
like don't let it get too farbehind, but like knowing that
you get to see like little popsof, oh, I save money, that's
pretty cool yeah yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Um, and then also, as you see this, this, this
expense panel has a bunch ofdifferent things you can do as
you get more sophisticated withyour expense management.
You can add note.
You can add notes.
You can add tags yeah,associated with that expense.
Um, you can.
You can attach that here ifyou're using the desktop version
, or you can just snap a photoif you're using the mobile app.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Oh cool.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, and then you'll have some additional
information on the expense, likewhat pocket is it associated
with, which card, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, so you can just do that in real time, like
after your dinner you know whatI mean Exactly, yeah.
That's that's really importantyour dinner.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, exactly yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's, that's really important.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, no more, no more like shoebox full of
receipts.
Yeah, I will say so.
This is.
This is an example of all thedifferent income and expenses
you have in your found account,and I think it's we've seen it
most powerful when you'rerunning all of your income and
expenses through found.
That said, sometimes people areusing different credit cards or
different apps, financial appsor maybe they're still using
QuickBooks and they have somedata there.
There is a way to addtransactions, either manually or

(28:39):
from other accounts.
And so you can.
Either you can enter an expenseyou wanted to to um have that
expense captured so you you cansee that its impact on your
business.
You can do that here.
You can also connect otherbanks and apps, as well as

(29:01):
popular apps like cash app andquickbooks, to import
transactions to this activitylog from external sources nice,
okay, yeah, so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So it's like the hub.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Exactly, yeah, so this will be like the single
source of truth and it will feedinto that real time tax
estimate.
But there might be a world inwhich you still have
transactions outside of found,in which case you could use this
connected accounts feature.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's good, okay, cool, and so this is
a transaction level view ofyour activity.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
If you want more of an aggregate view, the reports
tab is really is a reallyhelpful view, and I remember in

(29:49):
the live last week we weretalking a lot about various time
periods, your income, brokendown by separate vendors or
types of income.
You can do that here.
Similarly, expense as youcategorize them, you can see, ok
, what's the breakdown of, likewhere I'm actually spending
money on my business.
So like, oh wow, I'm payingcontractors 71 percent.
71 percent of my categoriesexpenses were for contractors.

(30:11):
So that means I have acontractor-heavy business and I
can help you sense, check andsay like where might there be
opportunities for cost savingsor reallocation of funds when
you get this kind of like bird'seye view of your income and
expenses?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it looks like it's a lot easier to run the
reports too than some of theseother things, like it's just
it's not like super complicatedso you can just see it right
there like profit and loss, likea lot of people don't even know
how to run that.
So this is, you know what Imean like.
So that's really, I think,important that it's just right
there for you.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah it's right there for you, just another tab in
the same banking platform, um,and if you want to export it,
it's also really easy.
So we have an export featurewhere you can generate a PDF of
any of these reports.
Also, there's this ability toshare with an accountant.
So a lot of people ask me islike is Found trying to replace

(31:04):
accountants?
Should we work with anaccountant?
Like, what do you recommend?
And it kind of depends.
So, like Found can both be astandalone, really powerful tool
for taxes and bookkeeping.
A lot of people are on top of itand they want to use it by
themselves.
Other people say, like I havethis account I've worked with
for 20 years.
I want to keep working withthem, but I want to make it more
efficient, in which case thisaccountant access would be

(31:27):
really helpful for them.
Or you can essentially put thefull name email of your
accountant share access toselect parts of your found
account to allow them to viewthese reports, to allow them to
manage transactions, to accesstax documents that are generated
within the platform, whichmakes their life easier, your
life easier, and ultimately juststreamlines the whole process,

(31:49):
even if you're still using youraccount.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, that's really cool.
I mean that could also be usedlike if some people have
bookkeepers right, like so, likethey know that this is a big
pain point for them, or they'renot super, they're just really
busy, so they have someone whokind of does their books like.
This makes it so easy to grantthat person access to just get
it done.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Exactly, and it speeds up their life Like they
don't have to go throughcleaning up all your receipts
transactions or digging, digginginto that shoebox of receipts.
It's all cleaned up andcategorized already.
Great.
So, yeah, we've walked througha lot of banking cards, taxes,
expense management.
There's some other bells andwhistles that we've built in
over the years based off of whatwe hear self-employed business

(32:32):
owners need.
One of those is invoices, and sowe heard a lot of folks are
either building invoices bythemselves or they're using
separate invoicing tools, and wefigured why not build that into
your bank account and allowfolks to send an invoice from
this centralized place, allowthe person receiving that
invoice to pay in a variety ofdifferent ways and then have

(32:53):
that income come directly backinto their bank account.
It get classified as income anddo all the things that we
talked about as part of thebanking tab.
So I'll show you what thatlooks like.
It's relatively straightforward, but I already have a handful
of business contacts here Iwanna add an additional business
contact.
I can kind of treat this aslike a lightweight contact book,

(33:13):
which would be really helpfulboth for invoices, so like
clients that I'm asking to payme, as well as contractors that
I'm paying to talk about on thenext tab but say I want to
create a new invoice.
It's relatively straightforward.
I did some work for Ansel Adams.
It was a client of mine, it wasa nature shoot and it was

(33:39):
$1,500.
I can adjust things like thequantity.
I can add a discount.
You can see here the dropdownof the various payment methods
that the person will see whenthey click on the link that's
sent to their phone number.
So they can if they have afound account, they can do a
free, instantaneous transferfrom their found account to my

(34:00):
found account Really powerful ifyou're working with a lot of
folks that I found or want towant to encourage them to sign
up for, found to make that areally frictionless process.
But similarly we work withother really common payment
providers, things like weintegrate with Stripe and allow
folks to pay on credit or debit,direct debit, cash out pay.
So the nice part is like it'sall coming to your same account

(34:23):
but you're allowing peopleoptionality as part of the
recipient experience to choosedo I want to pay with found, do
I want to pay with a credit ordebit card or do I want to pay
with found?
Do I want to pay with a creditor debit card or do I want to
pay with cash app and a coupleother things.
Here is just like the manas,the invoice workflow.
We allow things like paymentreminders, so like if it's the
due date's passed at thethree-day mark and the seven-day

(34:44):
mark, we've built in somefeatures to send reminders for
folks to pay the invoice andthen similarly, things like
scheduling sending that rightnow when you press send or on a
certain date, and then like whenyou know, are you operating on
that 15 terms, that 30 terms?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
you can set custom terms on when exactly things are
due.
That's awesome.
Yeah, this would be really goodtoo for people who are not
necessarily using like a clientmanagement system yet, or they
want to just like keep all theirinvoicing in one one place.
Maybe you still want to useyour crm for other things, but
all your money can be in oneplace.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Like that's kind of life-changing actually
definitely and if you want toreview I'm sorry preview of what
that invoice looks like.
Again, this is all customizable, but it's very simple, very
sleek and you can see whatthey'll see when they see the
invoice.
So pretty, pretty simple andnice to have peace of mind that

(35:44):
you have something that looksprofessional and not something
kind of whipped together andbrushed up on the side.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
So, speaking of contractors, I think a really
powerful tool here and we'vealluded to it a couple of times
in the call is the contractormanagement tab.
So the idea here being, ifyou're self-employed, you're
often working with otherself-employed people or other
contractors that maybe are notfull-time employees but are
often doing work or doing workservices for you.

(36:12):
So there's the need to not onlymanage, um, the you know those
contacts, but also manage payingthose people and then and then
if you're paying those peoplemore than six hundred dollars, a
lot, of, a lot of folks don'tknow this, but there's actually
like a tax form that you need tobe filling out, a 1090 109999
NEC come tax time that reportsthe income that you paid them.

(36:34):
And so I'm curious what you'veseen folks do you know, either
in your own business or in?
the businesses you work with, oflike one like what are some
examples of contractors peopleare working with?
And then two how are peoplehandling that headache of
actually like sending folks a1099?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, well, I know you know makeup and hair artists
.
A lot of a lot of us, includingmyself, some people pass that
on as a separate, you know, likethey have their makeup artists
charged separately.
I've always included it fromthe very beginning because I
want it to be more of anexperience for my clients and I
don't want them to have to, likeyou know, deal with multiple

(37:14):
things.
Um, so it's just a choice, butthat's a big one.
So I have to um issue thatevery year.
Uh, second shooters, obviouslyis another one.
Um, even like retouchers,anyone that you have like
helping you with your business.
Virtual assistance is a big one.
A lot of us have VAs, you know,because we just need a little

(37:38):
bit of help with admin or likeeven a bookkeeper or anyone that
you're having to pay, like yousaid, more than $600 in that
year.
You're going to have to issuethem a 1099.
And what I've seen most peopledo is run around and be like oh
my God, it's January 20th, Ihave to get this done before the
end of the month and the formsare gone.
You have to go to, like youknow, you have to go physically

(37:59):
to the store, get the forms.
They're not there.
It's like a nightmare if youdon't plan ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So yeah, Well, hopefully this will stop you
from running around, but I'llwalk you through how our
contractor management featurescan help ease some of that pain.
On both making payments tocontractors.
But listed in the contractorprofile Ansel is also a
contractor, tim, julie and Jameshe's a frequent collaborator of

(38:36):
mine.
We have similar aestheticstyles.
I want to add a new contractorwho's not on this list.
It'll show me automatically alist of all my found contacts
and so, for example, abed here,if I have him in, say, maybe he
was a client of mine or he wasotherwise a business contact.
He's not yet tagged as acontractor, but I'm actually.

(38:57):
I want to make a payment toAbed, so I'm going to select him
Immediately as I set him up asa contractor.
We can help send him a newcontractor packet and so,
essentially what that is, it'srequesting his W-9 information,
which is a form that will haveinformation that you'll need in
order to populate his 1099 cometax time.

(39:18):
You can either send him a packet.
You can enter that informationmanually if you have it, or you
can skip.
For now I'm going to send itand request as an incent.
You'll see in the contractormanagement tab that the W9
status here is updatedaccordingly, and so I've
requested it for Ansel.
It's missing for Tam and Abed.

(39:40):
I just requested it and sothat's reflected in the
contractor management.
If I click into his contractorprofile, you'll be able to see
over time, as you interact withthat contractor, what's the
status of the W-9 form.
If I hadn't just sent it, Icould send a reminder or I can
add that information manually.

(40:01):
I can track all the payments I'mmaking to that contractor and
then ultimately, once you havethe information from the W-9 and
you have all the trackedpayments, you can actually see
the 1099 be generated based offthat information, which is
pretty powerful, wow.
Also, if you want to understandwhat the payment experience is

(40:22):
as well, there's this button uphere to pay a contractor.
Say I want to pay Julie and Iwork with her on a project $750.
I can choose back to thepockets tab.
I can choose which pocket do Iwant this to come from.
So I actually have a pocket setup for Second Shooter, so I'm
gonna choose that.
I have enough money there and Ican add a note if this was for

(40:46):
the wedding shoot, I want totrack this as a 1099 payment so
that in the activity tab it'sauto categorized as a contractor
payment and therefore isflagged as a business deduction,
a deductible expense, and it'llupdate my tax estimate in real
time.
After I do that, it'll confirmwho I am through a one-time

(41:09):
password to my phone, so I'm notaccidentally sending a payment
to the wrong person and, alas,that's off.
And ultimately all thosepayments will be tracked in the
1099 payments report.
Or you can see where all thepayments that were over $600,
where there's this obligation toreport, and then where were the
payments below 600?
But I don't need to report.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
And you can do all this from the app as well,
correct?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yep, that's exactly right.
That makes it so much easier.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm just kind of like blown away by the whole 1099
thing.
I love that.
I love like the whole packet,the thing that you can send out,
that you know, just get thatdone, because most people are
just waiting to the last minuteto get it, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yep, cross off your list.
It's all in the same experience.
I know we talked last week alot about procrastinating on tax
work, and so the idea here iswe make it super easy, super,
almost even delightful to beasking for tax information so
you can be really organized andnot leave it to the last minute.
Through a lot and I know we'reprobably coming up on time.

(42:22):
I did want to click one into ourfinal tab here which is
business toolkit, and so this,the genesis of this was we
realized there's a lot of otherproducts and services that found
does not offer, or at leastdoes not currently offer, but we
want to connect our users with,because they're going to need
those products and services tosuccessfully run their business,
and so we partnered with avariety of kind of preferred
partners in each of thesecategories to allow you to, you

(42:45):
know, get an EIN for yourbusiness and click out and do
the sale with our partner.
LegalZoom start an LLC, getsmall business insurance through
one of our two providers aspart of the toolkit, get set up
with a business email throughGoogle Workspace, auto insurance
through one of our partnershere, as well as loan options.

(43:06):
So this is intended to be kindof a one-stop shop for
everything beyond banking, taxesand bookkeeping and we're like
hey, we hear you, you have allthese other needs about
incorporation aroundcommunications, around insurance
, and so're going to link you upto trustworthy providers that
we've vetted and we think wouldbe a good option for you.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's amazing.
The business insurance as well.
Like and just kind of likemaking sure I love that you guys
thought of all that.
It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Definitely, and I guess, needless to say, as you
can see by the app, this is everevolving.
We're constantly talking withour customers and understanding
what are your needs, both withinsome of these core capabilities
, but also in terms ofadditional capabilities, and so
we're always looking to improvethis and evolve this, and I
think that's one of the benefitsof working with a really nimble

(43:59):
organization versus a large,slow-moving bank.
I won't name any names.
We're constantly innovating andtrying to improve this for the
people we're serving.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that how often things
are updated and all of that.
So that's really good to knowthat you guys are listening to
your customers and wanting torefine and offer more options
for us as well, because, yeah,you're right, like you don't get
that with your run of the millbank.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Totally.
And the last question I oftenget on all this people are like,
wow, this is amazing.
But like, how much is thisgoing to cost me?
What is the price?
Here we do have a prettydetailed overview page of Found
versus Found Plus, which is ourpremium subscription.
The good news, which oftenstuns people, is the majority of

(44:55):
what I just showed you.
So banking pockets, expensemanagement, real-time tax
estimate, virtual cards, sendinginvoices, paying contractors
all of that is included in ourfree option.
So actually there's nosubscription cost or fee
whatsoever, or no required feefor you as a customer for our

(45:18):
bank, and so we make money formerchants as you swipe on the
debit card and things like that,um, or if we refer folks out to
our, our preferred partners,which allows us to make our, the
bulk of our, our core features,free for for the people
actually using the product.
We do have found plus, which Ijust wanted to ask you about
that yeah.
So found plus um is our, is ourpremium plan where there is a

(45:41):
subscription as part of it, andso if you go to foundcom slash
plans you can learn more aboutwhat's in each.
But I mean a quick side by sideis, as you can see, on Found
the free version, the bulk ofthe banking kind of core
features you're getting included.
What Found Plus will give youwill allow you to earn some
interest on balances up to$20,000.

(46:01):
And so if that's something thatyou value a lot and you want to
be earning interest on thatmoney, found Plus could be a
good option for you.
In the activity section.
So in some of the bookkeepingfunctionality we talked a little
bit about like setting upcustom rules and categories and
tags linked to your expenses youhave unlimited manual rules and

(46:24):
tags as part of the freeversion.
But if you want to automatethat and create custom built
tags, categories and rules,there's a limited number of
those you have during the freeversion and so if you want
unlimited, found Plus could be agood option for you.
And then a few other featuresaround auto auto importing

(46:44):
expenses by scanning a receipt,some of the connected account
feature I talked about in theexpense categorization and then,
for folks who are on the annualplan for Found Plus and our
Schedule C filers, that you canactually file your taxes with
our partner for free through theapp.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
All things to consider, as you're saying like,
hey, do I want to just do foundand use that for the bulk of
the features, or do I care a lotabout making interest on
balance, a bunch of differentcustom rules and expense
management and filing throughtheir partner?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Right, and there's like a 30 day free trial anyway,
correct?
So people can just try it andsee how they like, and all this
information, I'm going to have alink for you guys in the show
notes so that you can check itout and just, like you know,
sign up for the free trial, atleast for sure, and just and see
, you know, play around with itand get some integrations going,
to see how that looks for you.

(47:41):
I definitely um want you guysto to check this out.
So, perry, I have a questionfor you too, like from the
perspective of someone who islike Phyllis right, who is
coming in from kind of runningtheir business by the seat of
their pants, um, they want to beorganized, like they know that

(48:05):
that's really important and theywant to do that, um, and so
they decide, okay, I'm going to,I'm going to give this a shot,
right, I'm going to sign up forfound and just start playing
around.
What is like one big piece ofadvice that you can give that
person to not get overwhelmedand to like be successful with
it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, I'd say I guess two that are related to each
other.
One is like start small, and so, like I would say it's free to
sign up for the app, it's freeto familiarize yourself with the
app and so maybe start, youknow, putting some money in
there and testing out like whatthat workflow could look like
for you as part of your weeklyand monthly processes.

(48:46):
This doesn't need to be thispainful exercise of like ripping
out all of your financialprocesses from five different
apps and moving that all at once.
Like I think you can test intoit and familiarize yourself with
the app.
You can use the free version oreven a free trial, found plus
Plus, so there's not additionalexpenses involved.
And then I would say, inaddition to starting small and
testing into it, stayingconsistent in that you talk a

(49:07):
lot about the weekly date withyour finances, so start
incorporating Found in yourweekly date.
Have a weekly date with Foundand see, pour yourself a glass
of wine or a lemonade and usefound as you're kind of like
weekly reconciling as you putmore of your data there and
income and expense data andfound.
Start to like do trial anderror and learn as you go and

(49:29):
then over time.
If you think it's valuable,then like great, then get all of
your income deposited and foundand use the found debit card
for all your business expenses.
But it can be a gradual processthat doesn't have to be timely
or time intensive or supercostly or disruptive to your
status quo before you kind ofcommit to switching entirely.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, that's really great advice Definitely take it
one step at a time.
I feel like as creatives a lotof times we we tend to just kind
of like go all in, do all thethings you know and try, try and
bite off way too much.
Um, because we want to justlike, yes, we can do it.

(50:12):
We have the focus in thatmoment and then we're like, oh
my gosh, that that was too much.
So breaking it into chunks likethat it's great advice just in
general, but especially when itcomes to stuff like this, and
especially if you have likemoney triggers, like especially
if you either have like scarcityissues or if, like, looking at
your bank accounts is triggering, this is actually, I think, a

(50:34):
really great way to reframe thatbecause, like I said before and
a few times, aesthetically itdoesn't have the same feel as a
lot of the things that you lookat, and because it's different,
I like that you can create thatlike neural association with it
being different and be like, ohokay, now we're doing it this

(50:55):
way, Now we're making itpeaceful and calm, now we're
having and so you really have to, you know, be the the ruler of
your mind when it comes to thatstuff and like step in and say,
nope, this is how we're doingthings now, and this is my
weekly date with found and youknow, and it's pleasant, so you
can also time yourself too.
I think that helps me.

(51:16):
Just as a side note for youguys like I'll set a timer,
sometimes like just for like anhour, like okay, I'm going to
get through as much as I can inan hour and then I'm going to
move on to something else, andso that way you don't get so
burnt out.
And then, of course, if, likethat, the timer goes off and
you're like, oh, I'm almost done.
You know you can kind of finishit up, but that for me sort of
helps as well.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, for sure.
We want this to be bringing alittle bit of joy, if we can, to
your financial process, andreally the end goal is to reduce
the amount of time you have tospend on finances so you can
actually spend time one runningyour business and two living
your life.
And so, as you test into it andintegrate that weekly date with

(51:57):
found, hopefully those dateswill go shorter and shorter and
more efficient and you'll behaving a healthy business in no
time.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, love it.
Awesome.
Well, this is great.
Thanks for doing all of thisfor us and walking us through it
, because this is also part ofthe thing that I think can be
really overwhelming for people.
It's like, okay, this soundsgreat, but like now I got to
sign up for it and poke aroundmyself, but you've already done
that for us, so that takes awaythat pain point for sure for you

(52:28):
guys.
So definitely watch.
If you guys listen to this onthe podcast, make sure you head
over to YouTube and watch thescreen share, because I think
that the way that Perry is, youknow, breaks it down for us.
It makes it so much simple moresimple than you trying to poke
around and figure it out on yourown.

(52:49):
So thank you so much for doingthat and for being here.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Thanks for having me.
It was a pleasure and I hopeyou all learned a little bit
more about found and how we canhelp you.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, of course.
Yeah Again, I will have all ofthat information for you guys in
the show notes and you knowthere's information out there
for you, so don't feel like youcan't find it.
You know, reach out to me onInstagram.
You can always DM me.
I'm happy to point you in theright direction if I can.
So, all right, perry thanks abunch.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Thanks, renee.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Thanks, thanks again for having me and have a good
day.
I really hope that that gaveyou a lot of great insights into
what Bound can do for yourphotography business and how
much easier it's going to makeyour life.
And if you want to try that outfor free, I highly suggest you
do that.
Sign up below at the link.
All of this is in the shownotes for you.
I want to try and make this aseasy as possible for you.

(53:44):
Again, my goal is for you to beprofitable.
You can't do that if you're notlooking at your numbers.
So below in the show notes alsois a link to the YouTube video
that Perry and I did as aFacebook live in my photography
Facebook group last week.
So if you're not a member there, you might want to go ahead and

(54:05):
listen to that, because we arealso talking about the five
financial mistakes that I seephotographers making and how to
avoid them.
So you can watch that video aswell.
And now that you've seen thisvideo, you have a really good
idea of what found can do foryou and your business.
So again, that link to theother YouTube video is going to

(54:25):
be down there.
The link to try found for freeis going to be down there as
well and, again, you can do alot with that free account.
So you don't have any excuses.
Okay, you need to find a systemthat is going to work but that
you're also going to use.
Don't get something and not useit.
That's the whole point.
So I hope that between lastweek's live that hopefully you

(54:49):
tuned in for or listened toafter this, between that video
and this video, I hope that youhave a more clear picture of
everything that this platformcan do and I'm happy to answer
any questions as well, because,yes, I do use it as well.
Hit me up at Instagram at ReneeBowen, or you can now in the

(55:11):
show notes you'll see the littletop thing, very first thing.
It says text us a love note.
That is an actual thing.
You can click that link andthen just send me a quick little
text feedback question,whatever it is.
That's a cool new feature thatmy platform that hosts my
podcast is doing for us.

(55:33):
So use that, or hit me up onInstagram or email me at renee,
at reneebowencom.
I'm always excited to hear fromyou guys and I'm always excited
to get reviews and ratings aswell, so you can do that by
going to ratethispodcastcomslash reneebowen.
Thank you again, bound, forpartnering with me on this show,

(55:54):
and I am looking forward tointroducing all the listeners
here to your platform.
I think you guys are doing suchan awesome job and I personally
love it.
As a side note to all myphotographers who are listening
we are heading into the lastweek of May.
We're about to jump into June,so if you are a high school

(56:16):
senior photographer, you mightbe wondering how the heck am I
going to get clients right now,because this is sort of that
dead zone.
Typically, that happens betweenone class and another class
right, we're ending class of2024.
And then, if you don't havebookings already for class of
2025, it can feel reallystagnant for you because a lot

(56:37):
of people aren't thinking aboutbooking right now because
school's over and they don'twant to think about school.
So if you are struggling withthat, you need to head over to
my blog.
That link is below for you aswell.
I just posted the last few daysa really awesome blog post that
walks you through all the thingsthat you can and should be
doing to get new clients,because I want you to get some

(56:59):
cashflow into your business ASAPand, as always, if I can help
further.
You know where to find me.
So go out there, get somecashflow in your business, get
those bookings.
You can do it.
You just need to brainstormprobably about a few different
ways to do that, and whatmatters is your intentionality
Okay that and who you're being,because, remember, you don't get

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what you want, you get what youare.
So you need to be thatenergetic sequence and put that
out into the universe, and it'shard to do that If you're living
in scarce mentality.
I have tools that help withthat.
Those are going to be below aswell.
Let me know if you need anyfurther guidance and have a
phenomenal rest of your week.
I'll see you guys next time.

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Love you, bye.

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