April 29, 2024 • 61 mins
Embrace the transformative power of your imagination as Dave Conway and I uncover the secrets of molding your subconscious to achieve your heart's desires.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So when we start to understand that there's a no
thing, this no thing moves intothe imagination of a human being
.
Any idea that's acceptedthrough the imagination will
then move into the subconsciousmind of the human being.
Once it's in the subconsciousmind, it'll alter the behavior.
That person will then release aforce, attractive force, and
(00:22):
everything will start to moveinto it.
So what people want tounderstand how to create
different results is it allstarts with building a new image
.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Tried and True with the Dash of Woo, where
we blend rock solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
professional photographer atyour service.
We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
business and playing withmanifestation over here.
So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
Let's dive in.
Happy May 1st guys.
(00:57):
Welcome back to Tried and Truewith a Dash of Woo.
I am your host, renee Bowen.
This week I have Dave Conway onthe show, and Dave is kind of a
badass in the coaching industry,so this is a really fun episode
.
We talk a lot aboutmanifestation.
Dave's coached over 25,000entrepreneurs and coaches
(01:17):
worldwide.
He's considered one of theworld's best mindset mentors.
Working today as the founder ofConway Consulting, dave helps
people discover the power withintheir minds, to turn that power
into results unlike anythingthey've ever experienced.
And all of this and much morehas been made possible through
the study and practice ofmanifestation.
And so that is what we aretalking about today, in sort of
(01:41):
a different way than you maybehave heard it before, but I know
you're going to get a lot outof it, because he's such a super
interesting guy and I loved ourconversation.
I think that this is reallytimely we are getting into.
I don't know about you, but thelast week or so has definitely
felt more like movement, life,energy.
(02:03):
I know there's a lot going onin the world and there's not a
lot, you know, we can do aboutall that, but I do feel like
there is.
There's some positive change onthe horizon, and maybe that's
just the optimist in me, but Irefuse to change.
I'm going to continue lookingfor the good, because, you know,
sometimes that's all we can do.
(02:23):
Um, I just feel like, yeah, theenergy shifted a little bit,
and maybe it's the weather,maybe things are just finally
starting to get a little bitwarmer and maybe we're seeing a
little bit more sun.
Even out here in California, wehave had the wettest spring.
I just saw something not longago that said we've gotten more
(02:43):
rain than Seattle this year,which is insane.
We're out of the drought, sothat's fun, and we have some
amazing mildflowers and somegorgeous green, which is not
going to stick around, I know,but I'm trying to appreciate all
of that and even all the raindays that I have had to
reschedule for my clients.
That's not been fun.
It's been so hard, like so manysessions I've had to just
(03:08):
reschedule for my clients.
That's not been fun.
It's been so hard, like so manysessions I've had to just
reschedule because of rain.
It's crazy.
But yeah, I hope that you guysare feeling optimistic.
I always love to hear from you.
So if you want to chat with me,hit me up on Insta at Renee
Bowen.
Shoot me a DM.
I am always happy to chat withyou there.
Sometimes my little robot,renee, will answer for me, but I
promise I will respond the realme as well.
Just a quick little blurb.
(03:30):
I am going to be changing somethings up with regards to my
membership Elevate pretty soon,so I'm not going to really
announce those changes yet, butthey're coming.
If you are wanting to joinElevate, I would go ahead and do
it now, because I'm going to bechanging some things and
possibly raising the price, andif you join before that happens,
(03:51):
you're locked in to the ratethat it is now, which is only
$49 a month.
So, yeah, if it's been on yourlist and you've been thinking
about it, now's the time.
That information is listed foryou below in the show notes.
It's an incredible value.
You guys.
You get coaching from me, youget monthly content we talk so
(04:11):
much about marketing and you getaccess to me a lot, and it's
only 49 bucks a month.
So definitely check it out.
I will put that below for youguys, and I'm also going to be
changing the upper level ofElevate, which is called
Evolution, and that is going tobe shifting a little bit too,
and enrollment is going to startsoon for that.
(04:33):
So put those things on yourradar and, if you're not, on my
free Facebook group, by the way,for high school senior
photographers, I'll list that inthe show notes.
We have about 15,000 highschool senior photographers and
photographers in general inthere, and I am going to be
doing some more lives.
So one of the things that Ireally want to focus on this
summer is popping in there more,doing some more education in
(04:56):
there.
So if you are interested inmarketing and strategy and all
of those things business related, you want to definitely check
us out and join that free group.
Lastly, I do still have a coupleof spots open for one-on-one
coaching, but you want to get intouch with me ASAP, because I
tend to not take on as manyclients as we head into summer
(05:18):
and fall because I get reallybusy.
So definitely reach out ASAP.
If that is on your radar, Iwill put that link.
It's just reneeio slash book acall.
We have to hop on a call for usto see if we're a good fit to
work together, and I can kind ofoutline everything that's
included for you and you can letme know what you're dealing
(05:39):
with.
I'll let you know if I can help, and if I can, I'll point you
in a direction.
If I know that direction, I'mnot going to it's not a hard
sell into a program, right?
If it's not right for you, Iwill tell you.
So definitely do that soon,though, because I will be
probably closing my coachingbooks, at least fairly soon.
Okay, let's get into thisepisode with Dave Conway.
(06:01):
Hey guys, welcome back to theshow, and today I am joined by
Dave Conway.
You guys are in for a treat.
He's awesome.
Thank you so much for joiningme today, dave.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Awesome.
Thanks so much for having me.
I'll definitely accept anypodcast that's called Tried and
True with Adasha Wu.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I know that.
You know you definitely play inthat arena as well and we're
gonna're going to dive rightinto that.
So I just kind of want to startoff with a real simple question
what event or series eventstook you from $5,000 a month to
$550,000 a month?
What does that journey looklike?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just real simple.
Well, it's a roller coaster.
It's a roller coaster.
That it's a roller coaster.
It's a roller coaster.
That journey started in May of2017.
And maybe a lot of youraudience is familiar with this
gentleman.
His name was Bob Proctor.
I was down at an event in LosAngeles, california, called the
Paradigm Shift.
At the time when I bought myticket to it, I did not know
(07:03):
what a paradigm shift even was.
I didn't know what a paradigmwas, so it's a good thing I went
to learn, yeah.
So when I was down there, hekept asking everybody in the
audience like you know, what doyou want?
What do you really really want?
And you know your audiencecould ask himself that too what
do you want?
Like, what do you really reallywant?
What do you want to see happen?
And I took my imagination offits leash for five minutes and
(07:25):
in that five minutes, at thetime I was a carpenter earning
five grand a month.
And in that five minutes Iwrote out I want to earn 100
grand a month, so 20x my income.
It's a lot of money.
And I wanted to move into thepersonal development world and I
wanted to mentor people allover the world and I wanted to
become world class at it and Iwrote that down and that was the
(07:47):
starting point of massive,massive shifts in my life.
So it took me 31 months to gofrom the $5,000 to the $100,000.
And over the next two yearsthen I started going over
$200,000 a month, $300,000 amonth, and then in 2023, we
(08:09):
started crossing that half amillion dollars a month very
regularly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Amazing.
So what do you think?
I know, like you said, it's aroller coaster and it's
definitely a journey and eachstep leads to that next step.
What was it about being therefirst of all?
Like being in that room, likewhat was it about?
Was it something that you justdecided?
(08:36):
Was it then habits you put inplace, or did you sort of like
become this different versionand then the habits?
You know what I mean?
Like, what was that processlike for you?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's always interesting to me to find out,
like you're talking about theroom, like when, like in 2017?
.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, that catalyst right Like.
So what was it about that?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It was painful.
It was the most painful weekendof my life.
You see, I'd actually my wholeentire life I've always had just
like a feeling.
I don't see like colors oranything like that, or, you know
, I don't see visions in thesense of like, where my physical
eye transforms things, but I'vealways known there was a
(09:20):
spiritual component to life.
I always just had a feelingthat there was like a power,
there was a God, that there wasdeeper, and my whole life I've
always had an ability to justread, through my intuition, what
a person was like, and this gotme in a lot of trouble at
school, actually, because someof my teachers I just like was
(09:41):
like no, you don't got.
So I got in a lot of troublefor it growing up, but I've
always felt that way, except in2018, when I no, you don't got,
so I got in a lot of trouble forit growing up, but I've always
felt that way, except in 2018.
Sorry, when I was 18 years old,I ended up seeing Bob Proctor.
So I'm 40 years old now and Iended up seeing him and I'd
(10:01):
never heard anybody talk likethat before.
(10:27):
No-transcript, what is it?
Yeah, well, a goal is an ideathat you really want a goal,
simply an idea, and it's easy towant, but you have to
successfully transfer that ideainto a desire.
So the first thing I wasmissing was I didn't have a
(10:48):
serious goal that I could make aclear mental picture of.
And then the second thing thatI learned on that weekend was
the paradigm.
So, regardless of how hard aperson works, if you do not
change the images inside yourmind, inside your consciousness,
(11:09):
subconscious mind, it ain'tnever going to happen.
Something will always seem tohappen to set you back.
And so that weekend I made adecision, I acted on the
decision and I built a clearmental picture of the man I
wanted to be, and that's whatchanged my life.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I love that and you know we talk about that a
lot and you said it earlier too.
Like I get on calls with people, know we talked about that a
lot and you said it earlier too.
Like I, I get on calls withpeople all the time and that's
one of the first things I'll askis like, what do you really
want?
And most people can't reallyanswer that no for anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah for anybody in your audience.
Like if anybody really isserious about knowing that.
Like if you don't have aclearly defined goal, your goal
should be to get a goal.
Like that's got to be thenumber one thing.
Earl Nangill said this.
He's like he said it'd be wiseto sit down for an hour a day a
week, even an entire month, justto find out what you really
(11:59):
want.
Must be important if he'stelling you to dedicate an
entire month if you have to.
Must be important if he'stelling you to dedicate an
entire month?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
if you have to, yeah, because you can't go anywhere
if you don't know where that isand so many people don't have it
that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The thoughts in your mind are lead you like they
guide you all the time.
Whatever you think, that's what.
If you're thinking about havinga coffee, you'll wind up
getting a coffee, like it'sreally.
Just that simple.
So as you start to think biggerthings, you'll start to move
towards bigger things.
So if anybody are strugglingwith that, what they can do, I
give them a challenge.
So for the next 14 days, grab apen, grab a paper every morning
(12:35):
, if you can get up before thekids wake.
So, yeah, you do get up 10minutes before early and what
you do is, on the top of paper,just write out what do I really
want, what do I really want?
And whatever comes out, justwrite it down.
Do this consistently for 14days and you'll start to see
repeated, repeated wants comingon the page and then you'll get
yourself a goal.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I love that.
Yeah, I feel like a lot ofpeople.
Maybe they have an idea thatit'll just drop in, or, like you
said, you're just always led.
You're always led by something.
So being intentional with thatthought, though, is so key, and
I've definitely seen that formyself, and even like as a
(13:20):
partnership too right.
So, those of you who aremarried or you have a partner, I
think it's also important toget clear about your own goals.
But also, like, if you'reworking on something together,
like if you got something thatyou want to work on, something
you know in the future that youwant together, I think it's
important to get some clarityaround what that is for you guys
(13:40):
as a team as well.
Or if you know your company, ifyou've got employees, if you've
got things like that.
And I know you coach.
You know a lot of people likeyou've coached what over 25,000
people over the last few years.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Last year, last year I spoke to 25,000 people
just last year, and we've that'sthrough the events.
And then we I've personally hadover 1,250 high ticket clients.
So these people range from10,000 to 100,000 investment.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So you see the inside , the under, under the hood of a
lot of businesses andentrepreneurs.
That's fair to say.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And I'm telling you it's all mental.
So I have done over.
I've personally done over10,000 one-on-one coaching calls
and I'll tell you you start tolearn a lot about human beings
that you'll never find in a book.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's all mental.
It's always mental, like ourproblems are always mental.
Therefore, if our problems arealways, our problems are always
mental.
Therefore, if our problems arealways mental, then our
solutions must also be mental,and I think as soon as people
start to wake up to that, theycan change their life.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I agree, that's why I do what I do.
I mean, you know, I startedwith a degree in psychology and
then I fell into photography,and then I fell back into
coaching, because it was alwayslike a first love of me of, like
you know, working with people,but in a very different way than
I had, you know, intended toyears ago.
But I've always been like aself-development fanatic, for
(15:14):
lack of a better word.
Yeah, a junkie, yeah exactly.
Even in like the early 90s, youknow, and what I found was all
these, you know, creatives andphotographers were coming to me
for like business coaching andlike how do you do this and how
do you do that, but it was allhere, it was all.
It was all mental, like thestuff that was really holding
them back.
(15:35):
I mean, I could definitely giveyou a blueprint, but if you're
not going to like, figure out,fix really what's going on up
there and and and you know, dealwith that, it won't matter, the
strategy stuff won't, you won'timplement it, you won't do it.
And so I know that, yeah, fromlooking at everything that you
do, I know that's a really bigfactor.
(15:55):
So you talk a lot aboutmanifestation, and I do too.
I would love to kind of hearfrom you, I guess, like so what
are some of the commonmisconceptions about
manifestation that you encounterand how do you address them?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, the first one is that it isn't real.
Like, what a crock of shit.
Can you say that?
Word on the oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, you can curse on this one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, cool All right.
I should ask before I say it uhyeah, um yeah, like some people
think that it's not real.
Uh, like it's some like youknow a dash of woo, like woo,
woo or whatever.
Well, this is just a bunch ofnonsense.
Um, there's even people in theworld, here now too, that you
know-poo the idea of law ofattraction.
(16:45):
What are they talking about?
The law of attraction is thebinding force of the entire
universe.
Everything is bound through thelaw of attraction.
The law of attraction is asecondary law, the law of
vibration is a primary law.
So, whatever the nucleus of itis, there's only one form of
energy.
Science has already proven that.
So anything that gathers aroundthe nucleus, from a pen to your
(17:08):
hair, to your results, to thislip chap, to this piece of wood,
to to the desk you're on, tocomputer on, it's all one energy
bound through vibrations, sothrough the law of attraction.
Um, so yeah, one of my, one ofmy missions in life actually is
to make manifestation logical,to show it from a perspective,
(17:29):
and it works amazing, theperspective that I share that
it's so obvious that all we doall day long is manifest.
So everything starts like sothere's a creative process to
everything in life.
So it all starts with the nothing.
So you've got this no thing.
You call it space, higher power, spirit, whatever it is.
You want to call it Holy Spirit, god, anything you want to call
(17:52):
it.
But what we need to understandabout that, it's not formed.
So Albert Einstein said thatmatter is perpetually expanding
into nothing, which is kind oflike your reasoning mind can't
compute that, actually Like weactually can't compute it.
So the human mind can onlycompute in the third dimension,
(18:13):
which is length times widthtimes, height, the fourth
dimension being time.
So anything above the thirddimension the human mind can't
process.
That's why we talk in stories,metaphors the human mind can't
process.
That's why we talk in stories,metaphors, examples, analogies.
We show images to each other.
That's because those are all.
(18:34):
We can understand that throughthe 3D.
So when we start to understandthat there's a no thing, this no
thing moves into theimagination of a human being.
Any idea that's acceptedthrough the imagination will
then move into the subconsciousmind of the human being.
Once it's in the subconsciousmind, it'll alter the behavior.
That person will then release aforce, attractive force, and
(18:55):
everything will start to moveinto it.
So what people want tounderstand how to create
different results is it allstarts with building a new image
.
This is the most importantthing, like if you were to ask
me what's the most importantlesson you've ever learned from
all your mentors building animage, image building.
Become an image builder,because that's where it all
(19:15):
starts, because once that imageis impressed onto the sub,
everything will start to changeyeah, so it's about becoming a
different version of yourselfover and over again.
Yes.
So at the events, like we'vegot, we do a fair bit of events
all over the all over NorthAmerica and we're heading to Las
(19:36):
Vegas next Sunday no, no, theday after Easter Monday, okay,
Monday, yeah, and we're going toLas Vegas for a week for an
event.
We're hosting an event there, amanifestation event, and at
that event I will be gettingeverybody on the second night to
when we take them out fordinner.
They are going to have a wakefor the person that arrived on
(20:00):
the event on day one.
So we just say a silent prayerfor that person.
You know God bless them, butyou know-Y-N talk to you never.
They got to go.
So, true manifestation ismanifesting a new version of
yourself.
The only reason that a personwould ever get a goal is because
, if you're ever going to change, you need something worth
(20:21):
changing for, so you get yourgoal solidified.
Once you get your goalsolidified, you say who's the
man, woman or person that isnaturally producing that result?
You see, what people have tounderstand is that there is a
version of you that alreadyexists inside of you that will
naturally produce that result.
That'll naturally do it.
(20:43):
So I used to work a hell of alot harder earning $5,000 a
month than I do currentlyearning half a million a month,
like way harder.
Why I had to change my beliefsystem.
I had to manifest a new beliefsystem by design, by design.
It's amazing, like I could talkabout all day I know and I love
(21:04):
it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That's I, this is like so, so my jam, um, you know
stuff that I talk about all thetime as well and like implement
in my own life and have overyou know, the course of many,
many years.
I've seen it personally andalso, obviously, with clients of
mine, and so I love, I lovethat sort of like melding, like
(21:25):
you said, the logical makingthis manifestation.
You know, a logical thing,because a lot of people do have
this connotation about it thatit's inaccessible, it doesn't
exist, whatever.
But to that I say, first of alltoo, this whole thing, how do
you think this?
Even we're literally on afloating rock, what?
None of this is real, none ofthis is as big as we think.
(21:48):
It is right Like, ourperception is really what
determines the reality thatwe're in.
And so why not be a littledelusional about what you want
in life?
But so many people are heldbound by the 3D.
So when you encounter that and Iguess, like, by the time
someone comes to your event,though, right, like, if they're
(22:10):
going to your events, they arealready, you know, like on board
with this idea let's say, rightLike, they want to understand
it better, they want to at leasthave some tools, all of that,
and you know that's wonderful,because when someone wants it,
(22:31):
that's like that sweet spot.
I find what I see a lot too inmy communities is people who
really are open and I say, like,if you are drawn to it, if
you're hearing this, likethere's a reason for it I'm a
big believer in that.
Like you're meant to hear andyou're meant to like, things are
going to be presented to you ifit's meant for you.
But then they meet with thisresistance, right.
(22:53):
So when you come across peoplelike that, who are very much
like yes, this sounds like aphenomenal idea, right, and I
can get on board with this, butand then there's always their
but, like what do you find helpsmove people through that
(23:13):
resistance to it?
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah.
So there's like a couple coupleof things.
The first is um, at all theevents, I would, I would
challenge the idea of, uh, thatthey're already into it.
So they'll, the people thatcome, they'll, they're, they're
into the idea of earning ahundred thousand dollars, or a
million dollars a month, or 10million, whatever their goal is,
they're into that idea, it'sthe same.
(23:39):
It's the same, it's the sameidea around like sure, I'm, I'm,
I'm into the idea of lookinglike a Greek God, like I'd love,
you know, like have an eightpack and whatever the hell.
Like, I'm into that idea.
That's a great idea, you know,sign me up.
But then when I have to findout that I need to change, it's
(24:00):
like oh okay, well, hang on.
A second, very different story,really different story.
So when this is almost like asales question in a way, isn't
it In a strange way that you'relike Well, it's all related.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know, like, honestly it is yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So I said at the last event to my leading, my top
coach there, wendini, I call herher name's Wendy, but I call
her Wendini because she is magic, that's awesome and yeah, she's
brilliant.
And anyway, wendy, I said Wendywhen we started.
I said Wendy, how many peopleknow what they're signing up for
?
And she's like none, none ofthem actually know.
(24:35):
You see, everybody wants more,but when you start to learn a
process, it's like, oh, actuallychanging.
It's a very different story,very different story.
So how do I deal with a person?
Are you saying, how do you dealwith a person?
That's kind of resistance, yeah, like how to move deal with a
person.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's kind of the resistance, yeah, like how to
move back?
Well, basically move throughtheir resistance.
What would that sort of looklike?
And obviously it'll look likedifferent things for different
people, but I usually see thatresistance as that unconscious
programming, right, it rears upbecause it's like you know,
we've all been programmedagainst our will as kids.
(25:11):
And then when we do try andmake these changes cause it is a
change and it's natural forthat unconscious part of your
brain to pop up and go oh, no,no, no, no, no, no.
This is not what we do to staysafe, this is not what we do to
stay alive.
Like, why are you?
This is dangerous, right?
So like it's that perceiveddanger, and I feel like there's
(25:35):
a lot of different ways peoplecan move through that.
What do you feel like is reallyeffective for people to do to
work through that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
The first thing is like don't resist anything.
So if I was like, for example,let's say like I was speaking
with you today or I was speakingto on a sales call or a
coaching call or any human beingat all, don't resist anything,
because what you resist persists.
So when you're trying to forcesomething out of your life, you
(26:06):
have to let something out ofyour life.
So I don't know if maybe someof your viewers won't be
watching this on video, butright now what I'm doing is I'm
holding a piece of wood in myright hand above my head and
then below around chest height.
I've got my left hand.
So if I want to move this fromhere to here, all I need to do
is let go.
Okay, this, this is calledgravity, all right, so once you
(26:27):
let go of something, you'llinstantly make a space for that
something.
So when you're communicatingwith people, the key is you have
to get them into theirimagination.
You have to move them intotheir imagination so that they
consent to a new idea.
So it's not about like oh, Idon't have to do that, okay, no,
you just have to consent tosomething different.
(26:48):
So you don't have to forceanything on anyone, you don't
have to cross a line.
They're not allowed to comeover your line.
You're not allowed to go overtheir line.
But it's more about don'tresist anything.
Don't resist your own growth.
Don't resist your own growthwhen somebody else maybe is not
enjoying your presence or notenjoying the words that you're
saying.
(27:09):
Understand that that's reallynot them.
Like every time you meet aperson, understand that you're
not meeting a person.
What you're meeting is aconditioned mind.
In behind that person almostimagine a fence In behind that
person, in behind thatconditioned mind, over that
fence, there's a spiritual beingand that spiritual being is
wired up to do one thing and onething only to expand, to grow.
(27:33):
That's all it wants to do.
You can learn a lot from nature.
You can learn a lot fromobserving the universe.
It's in a perpetual state ofmultiplication and expansion.
If a human being, we're a partof the universe, therefore we
must obey the same laws.
So don't take anything personal.
When you meet a person, you'remeeting a conditioned mind.
You have to get over that mindand get into their heart.
(27:56):
Once you get into their heart,you'll find that the fence just
drops down.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, Tuning into that heart center is really
powerful I have found, you know,they always kind of say, like
gratefulness is the gateway tothat, like if you're having a
hard time accessing that version, to try and at least put
yourself in a place of serviceor place of gratefulness, and
(28:21):
that could be like a like astepping stone to that, that
larger part of it, because itkind of opens up that frequency
a little bit.
Do you find that too?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
well, it doesn't just open up the frequency.
You, they go to the frequency,yeah right, and it's like you
have to find out what's themotive behind this person are
they?
Are they financially motivemotivated?
Are they love motivated?
Or are they currentlyself-preservation?
Does the idea of power and famemotivate them?
Like, if you don't think powerand fame is a huge motivator for
the large majority of the earth, then just go on Facebook,
(28:55):
instagram and YouTube and you'llfind that it's a serious,
serious motive of people.
Is it fear, is it liberty, isit freedom that they're after?
So the more you understandabout people, you know, I found
that the more I understand aboutme, the more I understand about
you.
Because, yeah, sure, like Imight be a man, you might be a
woman, and I might have brownhair and you might have blonde
(29:16):
hair, and I might have browneyes, you might have blue eyes,
but inside we're actually allthe same.
We're all governed by one law,which is the law of growth.
So find that growth part ofthem, and if you're trying to
force your way in, they'llreject you.
They'll reject you.
Become curious, invite themacross it and bring them,
fascinate them, make themcurious.
Make them curious aboutthemselves.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, curiosity, I love that Just kind of getting
curious just in general andasking the right questions to
yourself daily.
That could be really powerful.
So, as far as that goes, areyou really big into all these
habits?
So we hear a lot about that.
(29:59):
We hear a lot about like, okay,shifting the mindset, stepping
into this other version of knowthat energetically exists and
aligning with that.
Um, do you believe that therehas to be a lot of structure and
habits around that, or can itbe easier?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
oh, it can be way easier.
Just get yourself an obsession.
You get, you.
Get yourself an obsession.
You don't got to really formthat many habits at all like.
There's only four core habitsto become financially free
always have a goal to bemultiplying your income, however
much you earn.
Uh, always have a goal thatyou're saving, how much you want
(30:43):
to save through a period oftime that you can save or invest
.
Uh, always have a goal to begiving at all times.
Be building yourself into theperson that donates X amount of
dollars.
And then the fourth is reduceyour debt.
So taxes or debt.
So there's your fourfinancially free habits.
Well, there you go Now.
Everybody knows.
But what's the motive behind it?
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Who's the person going toproduce it?
What are you going to do withthe information you know?
Who's going to guide you?
You know I had a mentor sayonce in my early 20s.
He said, dave, the mind is ascary place, don't go in alone.
Everybody needs a Sherpa.
And he said, especially you,especially you need one because
you're in rough shape.
Yeah, so as we start to graspthe idea that we can change,
(31:28):
that there's a simple process tochange and that we're not the
ones that have to change.
So I'm going to reword that.
This is a bit advanced mindset.
This is a bit more advancedmindset here.
There's a power that grows thetree.
The tree does not grow itself.
The tree does not grow itself.
(31:52):
There's a power that grows thegrass.
There's a power that's keepingyour butt in your chair if
you're sitting in a chair.
There's a power that's keepingthe ceiling above in your
current room that you're in.
There's a power that the sunsets and rises.
You see, nature has no effort.
(32:14):
It appears effortless.
When you start to embody theimages of the new identity of
the person that you would liketo be, you will find that there
is a power that will come toyour aid, that will naturally
give you a state known as grace.
Our problem is always in theresistance.
(32:34):
It's in the attachment.
Once you start to let go,you'll find that this power will
take over your imagination.
It'll take over your health,it'll take over the whole thing.
Our only job as human beings isto form clear mental pictures.
That's it.
It's all we do.
I have clients that go from 10grand a month to half a million.
(32:58):
I have clients go from 200grand a month three months later
300, 400 grand a month, allthrough image building, like
there's a power that grows thetree.
So start to ask yourself what'sthe difference between me and
the tree?
Well, the only difference isthat you can choose what you
become.
The tree is not allowed tochoose, but I'll tell you here
(33:19):
and now.
The exact same laws that growthe tree are the exact same laws
that will expand your life.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Religious people say giving your will over to god.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That's what it is yeah, and that is so difficult
for people I find too right,like, so I always say like life
is just like a series of lettinggo right, and it's pretty much
the key to kind of everything isletting go of all kinds of
(33:56):
things, whether it's that oldversion of yourself, control.
We have that need for certainty.
As humans, we really want toknow that that's going to happen
.
And then, like you said, wespend a lot of time up here,
which is not the best.
And as creatives, I find too,if you have an extra spicy brain
(34:19):
and you tend to have a veryactive, let's say, brain with
lots of imagination, well thatcan be a superpower.
With lots of imagination, wellthat can be a superpower but
left unchecked, it could be yourdetriment.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, I had a client once that had a very, very let's
say, like I don't knowdeveloped imagination.
I don't know if he consciouslydeveloped it or not, but he had
a.
He had a stimulated imagination.
Hey, it was.
It was active, an active one,that that's the word.
He had an active imaginationand when he started working with
me I said, I said wow.
I said you really have a greatimagination.
I said, but your will is veryweak, like your willpower is
very, very poor.
Um, I said you gotta, you gotta, tighten up your focus, your
(35:02):
concentration.
I said and if you don't, youyou'll suffer.
And you know he was going tostart a new world and he went
off and after a week he gotrejected three times, came back,
was furious with me and he said, hey, I want a refund for this.
I said, no, I'm not giving youa refund.
I was like I told you what wehad to do.
I said I will work with you.
I said we'll develop your will,just refused.
(35:23):
He thought that just having theidea was enough.
It's not enough.
You need to embody it.
So I find that most people likehow I my problem was I was too
busy being me, and if I was toobusy being me, I had to change
that to get busy, to being theperson that I want to be.
And it's just a one, it's justa day-to-time practice.
(35:44):
It's it's very, very simple tobecome rich.
It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It's very simple to become happy too yeah, yeah it
is, I believe, that 100 um, butit it is really that practice.
It's like, like you said, likethat practice of continuously
releasing and letting go of thatso that you do make more room
(36:11):
for that expansion, indirectly,like let's talk for a second
about sales, right, and put itinto some I guess 3d sort of
context for people, right,because you know, the more I
(36:33):
always, I always say and Ialways believe that you know
your business is definitely areflection of how you feel,
what's going on inside, and so,even if you can have the best
intentions, that's why a lot ofpeople like you were talking
about before, I believe a lot ofpeople have years of being on
like let's like aself-development journey or
(36:55):
trying to better their lives orwhatever they want to call it,
and they, they just kind of keephitting up against a wall or a
ceiling because they're notembodying it Right, they're not
like letting go of that, becausethere is, it is, it is like a
saying goodbye and like a death,like you said.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh yeah, rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And moving through that is super scary for a lot of
people.
But in terms of sales, I findthat sometimes it's almost
easier because it's motivated bymoney.
Probably right Is that peopleare able to come into that lens
of, well, I do want to make moremoney and I want to learn how
to be better at selling.
(37:40):
And I always tell creatives too, like, if you, because a lot of
photographers, a lot ofcreatives will fall into what we
do by accident because they'regood at it, they make it look
easy, whatever, and then theysort of just fall into it and
then before they know it,they're like oh, I actually have
to know how to run a businessif I want to make money at this.
(38:01):
And that's their catalyst torealize that this is sales, this
is sales.
And there's this slimyconnotation about sales that a
lot of people have thisprogramming about.
So through that lens they'reable to at least approach it.
And I think that you touched onthat a little bit too when you
said people come to the events.
(38:22):
Yeah, it's, yes, I want to makemore money or I want to have a
better business or whatever, butit's the catalyst that actually
gets them in there to make thechange.
So, in terms of sales, what doyou think and I mean I know what
I would say, but what do youfeel is one of the most
(38:46):
important tools of mindset ormanifestation that comes into
practice with that sales process?
Like what?
What do you think really holdsthe um, pulls the lever, I guess
.
Does it make sense?
yeah, are we uh like when you'rehaving a conversation with
(39:08):
somebody, or just like shiftinga belief around it, or yeah,
well, I've kind of both, I guess, because, you know, first they
have to kind of shift the beliefwithin themselves to make that
shift to sell, because a lot ofpeople have that programming,
like I said, of Well everybodyhave that programming like.
(39:31):
I said of Well, everybody.
Yeah yeah, everybody has somekind of programming, but a lot
of people have a programmingthat sales is bad you know what
I mean or sales is gross,whatever, and so they feel very
guilty.
This is something I see a lot.
They feel very guilty this issomething I see a lot.
They feel very guilty aboutcharging people even like what
(40:02):
they know they need to becharging.
They feel guilty about it.
So, in that respect, what wouldyou?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
where would you go with that.
I just did a seminar in Torontotwo weeks ago called Money and
Guilt and it sold out in threedays.
Boom like that, All women.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's what I was going to say, do you?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
find that it's mostly men.
I mean mostly women, becausethat's what I see in my
communities.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yes, yeah, my client base is about 85% women too.
Not by design by just wowinteresting, that's what's
happening All too.
Not by design by just wowinteresting, that's what's
happening, all right.
So what we got to understand isthat that perception is not
it's not like unvalidated, it'sa pretty valid perception
because most salespeople arevery are, they're amateurs.
(40:42):
Okay, they're terrible, andthey're.
They don't understand the basiclaws of human contact, where
every human being on the planetwants to be left with the
impression of increase.
So, like everybody wants to bearound people that are going to
facilitate their expression,nobody wants to be taken from.
So everyone wants to be givento and served, but no one wants
(41:03):
to be taken from right.
That's why we got locks on ourcars and locks on our doors.
Why, to protect our stuff.
So everyone has an automaticself-preservation mechanism to
protect and there's just toomany salesperson sales process
encounters with amateurs thatvalidate that it's an icky or a
gross thing.
(41:23):
So if you've got that a part ofyour paradigm now, not
everybody does, but the largemajority of people do so.
If you understand that, let'ssay I'm going to throw a number
out your paradigm Now, noteverybody does, but the large
majority of people do so.
If you understand that, thenlet's say I'm going to throw a
number out of there.
This isn't an accurate number.
I don't want to be like that oranything behind it.
Let's say, 85% of people in theworld have that paradigm that
sales is icky.
So the chances of you comingout of that grouping of people
(41:46):
well, it's 85 out of 100 thatyou've got it.
If you want to make it, youhave to reconcile that.
So what we want to understandis that sales isn't doing
something to someone.
Sales is doing something forsomeone.
So what you want to do is youwant to create an environment
that is conducive to theunfoldment of a desire.
(42:09):
Okay, I'm going to repeat thatyou have to learn how to create
an environment that is conduciveto the unfoldment of a desire,
because every sale you've evermade and every sale you ever
will make has all went throughfrom the imagination into a
desire that person has purchased, because desire controls the
movement of the body.
(42:29):
Now, when you understand that,that your job is just to
facilitate desires, and thebetter you get at framing up a
conversation or an environmentwhere that person is allowed to
go to take themselves to thenext level, because this is the
truth.
You don't sell anyone anything.
(42:51):
What you do is you facilitatethat person expressing their
desires with and through you.
That's all that we do.
So even the idea oh, I soldthat person, okay, fine, that's
fine, unless if you don't wantto look any deeper.
But the truth is you didn't.
What you did is you facilitateda desire.
So if someone comes to you andthey want something, yet they're
(43:12):
afraid to act on it, well, it'sthe salesperson's job to help
that person overcome that fear.
It's actually the salesperson'sjob to help that individual
overcome the objection, becauseit's the objection that's going
to rob the dream.
That's what it does.
The objections all stem fromthe paradigm or the current
reality.
(43:33):
Your current reality stems fromyour paradigm.
So we got to go back over thatfence, get into their heart and
say, hey, it's okay, you can dothis.
There's all kinds of techniquesfor that.
When I discovered, can I sharea story?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
So here's two sales storiesthat changed my life.
(43:53):
So I started doing thisprofessionally in 2017.
And I'll never forget this itwas November 30th 2017.
I did my first ever talk thatday.
I installed a kitchen and made$400.
I used to make 50 bucks an houras a carpenter.
And that night I did a90-minute talk and I made
$20,000.
(44:14):
And my God, did that everchange my perception?
I was like what?
Like that, just okay, hang on,that just don't happen.
But I liked it and I was likeI'm going to keep doing these
things.
So I started, I booked thatroom every day.
I think it was the lastThursday of every month for a
(44:34):
year and I started doing thesetalks at the last Thursday of
every month for a year.
And I started doing these talksat the last Thursday of every
month for a year.
And there's this lady used tokept coming.
Her name was Robin and Robinwould always come up to me like,
oh, that was great andwonderful, and then she would
leave, never purchasing, likethe mentorship.
And it was the fifth time thatRobin came and she came up to me
and I just said oh, oh, my God,I'm not talking to this woman.
(44:55):
So I was just like I don't,there was a sales lesson in here
.
I just didn't fully get it.
I said I put my hand out and Iwas like I said Robin, I'm not
talking to you.
You've been here five times now.
Are you in or are you out?
Now, I wasn't talking aboutnecessarily in or out with me,
are you in or out with you?
Because you just keep sayingthe same things over and over to
(45:18):
me and I don't have to give youmy life.
I've got a wife, I've gotfamily, I've got people that
want to be around here, not justpeople that want to just hang
out at the side of the pool,right.
So she said I'm in Now.
That was a huge awareness thatI didn't realize at the time,
that if you just demand adecision, you'll get a decision.
(45:39):
If you permit indecision, youwill receive indecision.
You are not helping the personGet them to make a decision yes
or no, yes or no, or if I'm notsure, okay, what do you need to
know to get it to a yes?
So anyway, robin came into thementorship 10 weeks in.
She said her life had changedmore in 10 weeks than it had in
20 years.
(46:00):
On the 11th week she called meup.
She was just stressed out.
She's like hey, can I talk toyou?
And I said sure.
And she said I just bought thispackage.
Now at the time my mentorshipwas five grand.
So me five months to sell afive grand package.
She bought a package from awoman online $20,000 in 30
(46:21):
minutes.
And when she told me this, Ithought to myself you know a lot
of ignorant people would belike jealous or whatever.
Oh, why'd you do that?
No, first thing I thought waswhat the hell does that lady
know that?
I didn't know.
I decided at that moment.
And Earl Mangiel said this.
I just never understood it.
He said your success in life isdependent upon your ability to
sell.
I dedicate the next three yearsof my life to selling.
(46:46):
That's all I read, that's all Ivisualized.
That's all I did.
All I did was listen to salesrecordings.
I'd listen to my own, I'd findfriends.
I started a sales mastermindwhere other salespeople we'd get
on, we would share ideas.
I was researching Mr Beastyesterday, just kind of learned
about this guy.
He did the same thing for threeyears.
People don't know this.
(47:06):
People just think that peoplejust get the success he's been
at it since he was 11.
You know almost a decade ofinsane levels of focus insane
levels.
So that's when I dedicated mylife to become a salesperson, my
income.
That's when I crossed my firsthundred grand, or sorry, my
(47:27):
hundred grand a month.
That's when I crossed $1.4million in under three years
from just learning how to sell.
Now, another huge lesson in mysales journey was this I did
this call with this lady, and Ialso think the universe made it
that this was her name.
It was Carmen Diaz, not CameronDiaz.
That would have been sweet,though.
It was Carmen Diaz, and I knewwithin a second, once Carmen
(47:53):
Diaz came on the line, that shedidn't have any money.
Now, I'd already scheduledCarmen 30 minutes.
My paradigm instantly saidlet's get this call done in 10
minutes and let's just get outof here.
That was my original attitude.
This voice I swear to God, thisvoice went off in my head and
(48:16):
it was like this call is not foryou, it's for her.
Now I've shared this story where, a couple times, I've teared up
after because it changed mylife so much.
You see, prior to that moment,my biggest mistake was I would
reflect the attitude of theperson I was speaking to, or I
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would reflect the ability or thepotential or the capacity of
the person I was speaking to.
So I was only ever speaking tothe paradigm.
I was never speaking to thesoul.
That day I made a committeddecision that every person I
would meet from then on in, Iwould give them a 10 out of 10.
So let's say Carmen Diaz's lifewas, let's just say, a 2 out of
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10.
I was instantly going toreflect a 2 out of 10 to her.
If someone gets angry at you,we can tend to get angry at them
.
We tend to treat people the waythat we're treated by them.
So I started taking the highroad on everything 10 out of 10,
.
Within eight months I earned$1.4 million after I started
doing that.
Start to talk to the higherlevel.
(49:21):
But you got to be courageous.
You got to be courageousbecause that paradigm don't want
to let you in, does not want tolet you in.
Had this one gentleman once too.
Now you got me on the salesstuff.
I love it.
Yeah.
I had this one gentleman oncetoo who came on the call and
he's like, he's like I don't buyon the first call and I said,
oh, I said that's OK.
I said, well, today could beyour first, yeah, yeah.
(49:44):
And then I just conditioned mymind and I was his first.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, I talk about this a lot too as fine with
photographers, um, as fine withphotographers, um, you know, and
and that was a really greatexplanation, a visual, if you
will, for a lot of people, ifthey, if they needed that to you
know, looking through that lensof sales or service, I mean,
that's really what it means isto really guide them to that
(50:13):
desire.
They already and this is what Itell photographers all the time
People came to you for aservice.
They came to you because theywere attracted to your work.
They think you do a good job bythat point of someone booking
with you, they've been sold intothis desire.
(50:33):
You've been able to do that.
So you need to finish thatprocess with them, not leave
them hanging on the other sideof that, because that is a
disservice.
You're not actually, you know,finishing the true culmination
of that right.
So a lot of service providersor photographers, let's say like
(50:53):
, who are selling products andservices and not just like
digital images.
That's where who are sellingproducts and services and not
just digital images, that'swhere it gets a little clunky
for them, because that wholeguilt comes in.
I love that you are speaking tothat, because I feel like that
is of the utmost importance,especially with women.
It could have a lot to do withthe way that we as women are
(51:14):
programmed.
I mean, I can definitely godown that rabbit hole there's a
lot to say about that but it'snot doing anyone any good and
it's certainly not doing you anygood if you are continuing to.
You know, carry that.
But if someone is coming to youfor a service, you know, that
alone is the catalyst for you towant to finish that process and
(51:38):
to guide them through that.
Sales used to be one of thosethings that made me want to
throw up.
Literally, that was the thingfor me.
I didn't even realize I hadissues with this until I was put
into a situation where I had toquote unquote had to sell in
order to make a living at what Iloved to do, and it brought up
(52:00):
all of these triggers and I findthat most people, when that
comes up, they just sort of runaway from it instead of dealing
with it.
But I knew that I needed to andI wanted to.
I wanted to let that go.
I want like I was like.
This is obviously showing upbecause I got.
You know this is not serving meyou wanted to let that go.
I was like this is obviouslyshowing up because this is not
serving me.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
You wanted to let it go, right.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, this is not serving me, and I also really
wanted to serve my clientsbetter.
I wanted them to have anamazing end result of this
experience of working with meand handing over some digital
images.
I ain't going to cut it Like.
I wanted them to walk away withbeautiful artwork and feel
(52:38):
really good, right, about that.
So I had to do that work onmyself.
I had to look at all of that andhad that desire to change and
now sales is like my favoritepart of what I do, like it is so
completely, vastly differentthan what I had perceived it to
(52:58):
be in the past, and I love asmany conversations as we can
have about this for people,because I feel like there's
still a lot of taboo around it.
But I want I want people tounderstand how amazing it can be
when you are in that place andyou are coming from a
(53:19):
heart-centered approach, likeyou said, 10 out of 10, you're
showing up.
You're showing up to yourhighest good right.
Like you are stepping into yourhighest potential and alignment
and like nothing bad can comefrom that, because it's energy
at that point right, and it'snot even just for you, so you
(53:41):
don't even know sometimesyourself from the equation,
completely everyone will bebetter off.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's the problem with, uh, with mankind in
general.
Everyone's just trying to getexcessive getting.
You know people want to get sothey can get.
You know that's I want to getthis so I can get that.
But what we got?
To start to learn how torecondition the mind, to learn
how to give so you can give.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Exactly.
I tell that to people too.
It's like you, you, you knowthey have all these problems
like these, really theseobstacles, right Of raising
their prices, and I was like,well, if you really want to
truly be of service Like the way, this is a path to that too,
because when you are making moremoney, you can give things away
, you can be of more service,you can.
(54:21):
You can then step into thatother person centeredness and it
really needs to be that.
It can't.
It's not about you, none ofthis.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
No, no, like even your goals.
Like, if you go back to thefinancial freedom goals, like I
said, number one, have a goal toincrease your income.
Number two, have a goal ofsaving and investing.
Number three, have a goal thatyou want to give.
And number four is, you know,eliminate debt or reduce your
debt.
Well, last year I'm just doingmy taxes right now I donated
(54:55):
five times more money than Iused to earn.
Yeah, you see.
So we have to learn how tofreely give and graciously
receive.
And a lot of the ladies, they'repretty good at the giving part,
but the receiving part has toget.
Their consciousness has tochange a little bit in that,
(55:15):
like you, you want to getcomfortable.
You got to get comfortable.
These ideas, like if we weregoing to talk about habits, um,
the number one habit for successis that failures don't like to
do.
Uh, successful people form thehabit that failures don't like
to do.
I'll repeat that successfulpeople have formed the habit of
doing things that failures don'tlike to do.
And the biggest thing thatpeople do not like to do, they
(55:39):
do not like to talk to othersabout a subject that that other
does not want to talk about.
That's what they do.
That's the number one thing.
So it's the fear of criticism.
It's like failures don't wantto talk to others about a
subject that that other personmight not want to talk about.
And if you think I'm wrong,just look at how many men and
(56:01):
women go to bed every singlenight and with an elephant in
the room for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50years.
They just don't want to mentionthe thing.
Everyone wants to brush itunder the rug.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Well, yeah, I mean, I think people Tony Robbins talks
about this a lot too People domore to avoid pain than seek
pleasure.
A hundred percent, and that'sexactly what that is.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, they'd rather die than to address it.
You know it's like.
Well Jesus Christ said a couplethousand years ago.
He said know the truth and thetruth shall set you free.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Jesus Christ said it a couple thousand years ago.
He said know the truth, and thetruth shall set you free.
Yeah, yes, oh, yeah.
So that's a really great pointand I think that we can start to
wrap up on that, because Icould keep you here all day
talking about this kind of stuff.
I hope that you guys hear a lotof the points that we talked
about, but that one is reallypowerful the fear of being
(56:58):
perceived, of being, of beingjudged of.
You know it's keeping you, it'sreally keeping you the same and
stuck, and if you desiresomething different, you really
do have to be someone differentwho doesn't adhere to that
exactly.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
If if people aren't gossiping about you and people
aren't judging you, you're justnot doing it right.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
And you're playing small.
Okay, you're playing small,you're not sticking out.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Exactly Be the purple cow like Seth Godin always
talks about.
That's right.
Stick out.
You've got to be willing to bedifferent.
Yes, thank you so much forbeing here.
I loved all of this.
Like I said, I could definitelygo deep into all of this, and
so this was really fun to pickyour brain.
Thank you for sharing all ofthat with us today.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Thank you, Renee.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Okay, so what are you guys walking away with?
I wanna hear your takeaways.
Obviously, I can't wait to hearwhat you thought about this
episode, if this helped shiftanything for you.
I think some of the takeawaysare goals are important.
You've got to know what youwant.
You got to have some clarity,and a really great way to get
(58:07):
into the practice of knowingwhat you want is to commit to 14
days of writing that down everysingle day and allowing what
comes in to become more clearover time.
But you've got to have clarityon that.
Without it, it's going to bereally hard to even know where
you're going.
Another takeaway is that weneed to be willing to let go and
(58:29):
release this past version ofourselves if we want to become
this new version.
So, yeah, have the clarity andalso be willing to let go of
this old version of you.
And then, a really importanttakeaway that I hope a lot of
you guys ponder and take toheart is the sales portion of
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this and how soul centered andother person centered it really
needs to be in order for manythings to happen.
But for you to really feel goodabout what you do and I always
talk about that too that thewhole purpose of all of this is
(59:13):
to feel good.
Abraham Hicks talks about thata lot, you know, and I really
think that in sales it is 100%possible to feel good.
There's no reason for you to befeeling guilty.
If you are feeling guilty, it'sprogramming.
It's coming up, you know, sothat you can address it and move
through it.
And that that is the biggeststep is to actually be willing
(59:39):
to have an uncomfortableconversation, even with yourself
, about that, because this wholefear of being perceived,
criticized, spoken about poorly,it's keeping you stuck and if
you desire more for your lifeand for your family, you do need
(59:59):
to be willing to let thatattachment go, because it is an
attachment.
So I would love to, like I said, hear your thoughts on that.
I hope this kind of opens yourmind a little bit and maybe
allow some other awesome,awesome things to drop in.
(01:00:20):
And if you are a creative or aphotographer and you know it is
time for you to make somechanges and you are ready, get
on a call with me, let's chat,let's talk about how you can
leave that version of yourselfbehind.
Let's talk about what thatlooks like for you in the future
.
Get some clarity on what it isyou actually truly desire.
(01:00:44):
When was the last time you evenallowed yourself to think about
that?
I'd love to help.
All the info on how to reachout.
Book a call.
It's in the show notes so youknow what to do.
Have a great rest of your weekand I will see you guys next
week.
So when we start to understand that there's a no
thing, this no thing moves intothe imagination of a human being
.
Any idea that's acceptedthrough the imagination will
then move into the subconsciousmind of the human being.
Once it's in the subconsciousmind, it'll alter the behavior.
That person will then release aforce, attractive force, and
(00:22):
everything will start to moveinto it.
So what people want tounderstand how to create
different results is it allstarts with building a new image
.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Tried and True with the Dash of Woo, where
we blend rock solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
professional photographer atyour service.
We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
business and playing withmanifestation over here.
So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
Let's dive in.
Happy May 1st guys.
(00:57):
Welcome back to Tried and Truewith a Dash of Woo.
I am your host, renee Bowen.
This week I have Dave Conway onthe show, and Dave is kind of a
badass in the coaching industry,so this is a really fun episode
.
We talk a lot aboutmanifestation.
Dave's coached over 25,000entrepreneurs and coaches
(01:17):
worldwide.
He's considered one of theworld's best mindset mentors.
Working today as the founder ofConway Consulting, dave helps
people discover the power withintheir minds, to turn that power
into results unlike anythingthey've ever experienced.
And all of this and much morehas been made possible through
the study and practice ofmanifestation.
And so that is what we aretalking about today, in sort of
(01:41):
a different way than you maybehave heard it before, but I know
you're going to get a lot outof it, because he's such a super
interesting guy and I loved ourconversation.
I think that this is reallytimely we are getting into.
I don't know about you, but thelast week or so has definitely
felt more like movement, life,energy.
(02:03):
I know there's a lot going onin the world and there's not a
lot, you know, we can do aboutall that, but I do feel like
there is.
There's some positive change onthe horizon, and maybe that's
just the optimist in me, but Irefuse to change.
I'm going to continue lookingfor the good, because, you know,
sometimes that's all we can do.
(02:23):
Um, I just feel like, yeah, theenergy shifted a little bit,
and maybe it's the weather,maybe things are just finally
starting to get a little bitwarmer and maybe we're seeing a
little bit more sun.
Even out here in California, wehave had the wettest spring.
I just saw something not longago that said we've gotten more
(02:43):
rain than Seattle this year,which is insane.
We're out of the drought, sothat's fun, and we have some
amazing mildflowers and somegorgeous green, which is not
going to stick around, I know,but I'm trying to appreciate all
of that and even all the raindays that I have had to
reschedule for my clients.
That's not been fun.
It's been so hard, like so manysessions I've had to just
(03:08):
reschedule for my clients.
That's not been fun.
It's been so hard, like so manysessions I've had to just
reschedule because of rain.
It's crazy.
But yeah, I hope that you guysare feeling optimistic.
I always love to hear from you.
So if you want to chat with me,hit me up on Insta at Renee
Bowen.
Shoot me a DM.
I am always happy to chat withyou there.
Sometimes my little robot,renee, will answer for me, but I
promise I will respond the realme as well.
Just a quick little blurb.
(03:30):
I am going to be changing somethings up with regards to my
membership Elevate pretty soon,so I'm not going to really
announce those changes yet, butthey're coming.
If you are wanting to joinElevate, I would go ahead and do
it now, because I'm going to bechanging some things and
possibly raising the price, andif you join before that happens,
(03:51):
you're locked in to the ratethat it is now, which is only
$49 a month.
So, yeah, if it's been on yourlist and you've been thinking
about it, now's the time.
That information is listed foryou below in the show notes.
It's an incredible value.
You guys.
You get coaching from me, youget monthly content we talk so
(04:11):
much about marketing and you getaccess to me a lot, and it's
only 49 bucks a month.
So definitely check it out.
I will put that below for youguys, and I'm also going to be
changing the upper level ofElevate, which is called
Evolution, and that is going tobe shifting a little bit too,
and enrollment is going to startsoon for that.
(04:33):
So put those things on yourradar and, if you're not, on my
free Facebook group, by the way,for high school senior
photographers, I'll list that inthe show notes.
We have about 15,000 highschool senior photographers and
photographers in general inthere, and I am going to be
doing some more lives.
So one of the things that Ireally want to focus on this
summer is popping in there more,doing some more education in
(04:56):
there.
So if you are interested inmarketing and strategy and all
of those things business related, you want to definitely check
us out and join that free group.
Lastly, I do still have a coupleof spots open for one-on-one
coaching, but you want to get intouch with me ASAP, because I
tend to not take on as manyclients as we head into summer
(05:18):
and fall because I get reallybusy.
So definitely reach out ASAP.
If that is on your radar, Iwill put that link.
It's just reneeio slash book acall.
We have to hop on a call for usto see if we're a good fit to
work together, and I can kind ofoutline everything that's
included for you and you can letme know what you're dealing
(05:39):
with.
I'll let you know if I can help, and if I can, I'll point you
in a direction.
If I know that direction, I'mnot going to it's not a hard
sell into a program, right?
If it's not right for you, Iwill tell you.
So definitely do that soon,though, because I will be
probably closing my coachingbooks, at least fairly soon.
Okay, let's get into thisepisode with Dave Conway.
(06:01):
Hey guys, welcome back to theshow, and today I am joined by
Dave Conway.
You guys are in for a treat.
He's awesome.
Thank you so much for joiningme today, dave.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Awesome.
Thanks so much for having me.
I'll definitely accept anypodcast that's called Tried and
True with Adasha Wu.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I know that.
You know you definitely play inthat arena as well and we're
gonna're going to dive rightinto that.
So I just kind of want to startoff with a real simple question
what event or series eventstook you from $5,000 a month to
$550,000 a month?
What does that journey looklike?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just real simple.
Well, it's a roller coaster.
It's a roller coaster.
That it's a roller coaster.
It's a roller coaster.
That journey started in May of2017.
And maybe a lot of youraudience is familiar with this
gentleman.
His name was Bob Proctor.
I was down at an event in LosAngeles, california, called the
Paradigm Shift.
At the time when I bought myticket to it, I did not know
(07:03):
what a paradigm shift even was.
I didn't know what a paradigmwas, so it's a good thing I went
to learn, yeah.
So when I was down there, hekept asking everybody in the
audience like you know, what doyou want?
What do you really really want?
And you know your audiencecould ask himself that too what
do you want?
Like, what do you really reallywant?
What do you want to see happen?
And I took my imagination offits leash for five minutes and
(07:25):
in that five minutes, at thetime I was a carpenter earning
five grand a month.
And in that five minutes Iwrote out I want to earn 100
grand a month, so 20x my income.
It's a lot of money.
And I wanted to move into thepersonal development world and I
wanted to mentor people allover the world and I wanted to
become world class at it and Iwrote that down and that was the
(07:47):
starting point of massive,massive shifts in my life.
So it took me 31 months to gofrom the $5,000 to the $100,000.
And over the next two yearsthen I started going over
$200,000 a month, $300,000 amonth, and then in 2023, we
(08:09):
started crossing that half amillion dollars a month very
regularly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Amazing.
So what do you think?
I know, like you said, it's aroller coaster and it's
definitely a journey and eachstep leads to that next step.
What was it about being therefirst of all?
Like being in that room, likewhat was it about?
Was it something that you justdecided?
(08:36):
Was it then habits you put inplace, or did you sort of like
become this different versionand then the habits?
You know what I mean?
Like, what was that processlike for you?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's always interesting to me to find out,
like you're talking about theroom, like when, like in 2017?
.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, that catalyst right Like.
So what was it about that?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It was painful.
It was the most painful weekendof my life.
You see, I'd actually my wholeentire life I've always had just
like a feeling.
I don't see like colors oranything like that, or, you know
, I don't see visions in thesense of like, where my physical
eye transforms things, but I'vealways known there was a
(09:20):
spiritual component to life.
I always just had a feelingthat there was like a power,
there was a God, that there wasdeeper, and my whole life I've
always had an ability to justread, through my intuition, what
a person was like, and this gotme in a lot of trouble at
school, actually, because someof my teachers I just like was
(09:41):
like no, you don't got.
So I got in a lot of troublefor it growing up, but I've
always felt that way, except in2018, when I no, you don't got,
so I got in a lot of trouble forit growing up, but I've always
felt that way, except in 2018.
Sorry, when I was 18 years old,I ended up seeing Bob Proctor.
So I'm 40 years old now and Iended up seeing him and I'd
(10:01):
never heard anybody talk likethat before.
(10:27):
No-transcript, what is it?
Yeah, well, a goal is an ideathat you really want a goal,
simply an idea, and it's easy towant, but you have to
successfully transfer that ideainto a desire.
So the first thing I wasmissing was I didn't have a
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serious goal that I could make aclear mental picture of.
And then the second thing thatI learned on that weekend was
the paradigm.
So, regardless of how hard aperson works, if you do not
change the images inside yourmind, inside your consciousness,
(11:09):
subconscious mind, it ain'tnever going to happen.
Something will always seem tohappen to set you back.
And so that weekend I made adecision, I acted on the
decision and I built a clearmental picture of the man I
wanted to be, and that's whatchanged my life.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I love that and you know we talk about that a
lot and you said it earlier too.
Like I get on calls with people, know we talked about that a
lot and you said it earlier too.
Like I, I get on calls withpeople all the time and that's
one of the first things I'll askis like, what do you really
want?
And most people can't reallyanswer that no for anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah for anybody in your audience.
Like if anybody really isserious about knowing that.
Like if you don't have aclearly defined goal, your goal
should be to get a goal.
Like that's got to be thenumber one thing.
Earl Nangill said this.
He's like he said it'd be wiseto sit down for an hour a day a
week, even an entire month, justto find out what you really
(11:59):
want.
Must be important if he'stelling you to dedicate an
entire month if you have to.
Must be important if he'stelling you to dedicate an
entire month?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
if you have to, yeah, because you can't go anywhere
if you don't know where that isand so many people don't have it
that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The thoughts in your mind are lead you like they
guide you all the time.
Whatever you think, that's what.
If you're thinking about havinga coffee, you'll wind up
getting a coffee, like it'sreally.
Just that simple.
So as you start to think biggerthings, you'll start to move
towards bigger things.
So if anybody are strugglingwith that, what they can do, I
give them a challenge.
So for the next 14 days, grab apen, grab a paper every morning
(12:35):
, if you can get up before thekids wake.
So, yeah, you do get up 10minutes before early and what
you do is, on the top of paper,just write out what do I really
want, what do I really want?
And whatever comes out, justwrite it down.
Do this consistently for 14days and you'll start to see
repeated, repeated wants comingon the page and then you'll get
yourself a goal.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I love that.
Yeah, I feel like a lot ofpeople.
Maybe they have an idea thatit'll just drop in, or, like you
said, you're just always led.
You're always led by something.
So being intentional with thatthought, though, is so key, and
I've definitely seen that formyself, and even like as a
(13:20):
partnership too right.
So, those of you who aremarried or you have a partner, I
think it's also important toget clear about your own goals.
But also, like, if you'reworking on something together,
like if you got something thatyou want to work on, something
you know in the future that youwant together, I think it's
important to get some clarityaround what that is for you guys
(13:40):
as a team as well.
Or if you know your company, ifyou've got employees, if you've
got things like that.
And I know you coach.
You know a lot of people likeyou've coached what over 25,000
people over the last few years.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Last year, last year I spoke to 25,000 people
just last year, and we've that'sthrough the events.
And then we I've personally hadover 1,250 high ticket clients.
So these people range from10,000 to 100,000 investment.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So you see the inside , the under, under the hood of a
lot of businesses andentrepreneurs.
That's fair to say.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And I'm telling you it's all mental.
So I have done over.
I've personally done over10,000 one-on-one coaching calls
and I'll tell you you start tolearn a lot about human beings
that you'll never find in a book.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's all mental.
It's always mental, like ourproblems are always mental.
Therefore, if our problems arealways, our problems are always
mental.
Therefore, if our problems arealways mental, then our
solutions must also be mental,and I think as soon as people
start to wake up to that, theycan change their life.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I agree, that's why I do what I do.
I mean, you know, I startedwith a degree in psychology and
then I fell into photography,and then I fell back into
coaching, because it was alwayslike a first love of me of, like
you know, working with people,but in a very different way than
I had, you know, intended toyears ago.
But I've always been like aself-development fanatic, for
(15:14):
lack of a better word.
Yeah, a junkie, yeah exactly.
Even in like the early 90s, youknow, and what I found was all
these, you know, creatives andphotographers were coming to me
for like business coaching andlike how do you do this and how
do you do that, but it was allhere, it was all.
It was all mental, like thestuff that was really holding
them back.
(15:35):
I mean, I could definitely giveyou a blueprint, but if you're
not going to like, figure out,fix really what's going on up
there and and and you know, dealwith that, it won't matter, the
strategy stuff won't, you won'timplement it, you won't do it.
And so I know that, yeah, fromlooking at everything that you
do, I know that's a really bigfactor.
(15:55):
So you talk a lot aboutmanifestation, and I do too.
I would love to kind of hearfrom you, I guess, like so what
are some of the commonmisconceptions about
manifestation that you encounterand how do you address them?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, the first one is that it isn't real.
Like, what a crock of shit.
Can you say that?
Word on the oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, you can curse on this one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, cool All right.
I should ask before I say it uhyeah, um yeah, like some people
think that it's not real.
Uh, like it's some like youknow a dash of woo, like woo,
woo or whatever.
Well, this is just a bunch ofnonsense.
Um, there's even people in theworld, here now too, that you
know-poo the idea of law ofattraction.
(16:45):
What are they talking about?
The law of attraction is thebinding force of the entire
universe.
Everything is bound through thelaw of attraction.
The law of attraction is asecondary law, the law of
vibration is a primary law.
So, whatever the nucleus of itis, there's only one form of
energy.
Science has already proven that.
So anything that gathers aroundthe nucleus, from a pen to your
(17:08):
hair, to your results, to thislip chap, to this piece of wood,
to to the desk you're on, tocomputer on, it's all one energy
bound through vibrations, sothrough the law of attraction.
Um, so yeah, one of my, one ofmy missions in life actually is
to make manifestation logical,to show it from a perspective,
(17:29):
and it works amazing, theperspective that I share that
it's so obvious that all we doall day long is manifest.
So everything starts like sothere's a creative process to
everything in life.
So it all starts with the nothing.
So you've got this no thing.
You call it space, higher power, spirit, whatever it is.
You want to call it Holy Spirit, god, anything you want to call
(17:52):
it.
But what we need to understandabout that, it's not formed.
So Albert Einstein said thatmatter is perpetually expanding
into nothing, which is kind oflike your reasoning mind can't
compute that, actually Like weactually can't compute it.
So the human mind can onlycompute in the third dimension,
(18:13):
which is length times widthtimes, height, the fourth
dimension being time.
So anything above the thirddimension the human mind can't
process.
That's why we talk in stories,metaphors the human mind can't
process.
That's why we talk in stories,metaphors, examples, analogies.
We show images to each other.
That's because those are all.
(18:34):
We can understand that throughthe 3D.
So when we start to understandthat there's a no thing, this no
thing moves into theimagination of a human being.
Any idea that's acceptedthrough the imagination will
then move into the subconsciousmind of the human being.
Once it's in the subconsciousmind, it'll alter the behavior.
That person will then release aforce, attractive force, and
(18:55):
everything will start to moveinto it.
So what people want tounderstand how to create
different results is it allstarts with building a new image
.
This is the most importantthing, like if you were to ask
me what's the most importantlesson you've ever learned from
all your mentors building animage, image building.
Become an image builder,because that's where it all
(19:15):
starts, because once that imageis impressed onto the sub,
everything will start to changeyeah, so it's about becoming a
different version of yourselfover and over again.
Yes.
So at the events, like we'vegot, we do a fair bit of events
all over the all over NorthAmerica and we're heading to Las
(19:36):
Vegas next Sunday no, no, theday after Easter Monday, okay,
Monday, yeah, and we're going toLas Vegas for a week for an
event.
We're hosting an event there, amanifestation event, and at
that event I will be gettingeverybody on the second night to
when we take them out fordinner.
They are going to have a wakefor the person that arrived on
(20:00):
the event on day one.
So we just say a silent prayerfor that person.
You know God bless them, butyou know-Y-N talk to you never.
They got to go.
So, true manifestation ismanifesting a new version of
yourself.
The only reason that a personwould ever get a goal is because
, if you're ever going to change, you need something worth
(20:21):
changing for, so you get yourgoal solidified.
Once you get your goalsolidified, you say who's the
man, woman or person that isnaturally producing that result?
You see, what people have tounderstand is that there is a
version of you that alreadyexists inside of you that will
naturally produce that result.
That'll naturally do it.
(20:43):
So I used to work a hell of alot harder earning $5,000 a
month than I do currentlyearning half a million a month,
like way harder.
Why I had to change my beliefsystem.
I had to manifest a new beliefsystem by design, by design.
It's amazing, like I could talkabout all day I know and I love
(21:04):
it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That's I, this is like so, so my jam, um, you know
stuff that I talk about all thetime as well and like implement
in my own life and have overyou know, the course of many,
many years.
I've seen it personally andalso, obviously, with clients of
mine, and so I love, I lovethat sort of like melding, like
(21:25):
you said, the logical makingthis manifestation.
You know, a logical thing,because a lot of people do have
this connotation about it thatit's inaccessible, it doesn't
exist, whatever.
But to that I say, first of alltoo, this whole thing, how do
you think this?
Even we're literally on afloating rock, what?
None of this is real, none ofthis is as big as we think.
(21:48):
It is right Like, ourperception is really what
determines the reality thatwe're in.
And so why not be a littledelusional about what you want
in life?
But so many people are heldbound by the 3D.
So when you encounter that and Iguess, like, by the time
someone comes to your event,though, right, like, if they're
(22:10):
going to your events, they arealready, you know, like on board
with this idea let's say, rightLike, they want to understand
it better, they want to at leasthave some tools, all of that,
and you know that's wonderful,because when someone wants it,
(22:31):
that's like that sweet spot.
I find what I see a lot too inmy communities is people who
really are open and I say, like,if you are drawn to it, if
you're hearing this, likethere's a reason for it I'm a
big believer in that.
Like you're meant to hear andyou're meant to like, things are
going to be presented to you ifit's meant for you.
But then they meet with thisresistance, right.
(22:53):
So when you come across peoplelike that, who are very much
like yes, this sounds like aphenomenal idea, right, and I
can get on board with this, butand then there's always their
but, like what do you find helpsmove people through that
(23:13):
resistance to it?
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah.
So there's like a couple coupleof things.
The first is um, at all theevents, I would, I would
challenge the idea of, uh, thatthey're already into it.
So they'll, the people thatcome, they'll, they're, they're
into the idea of earning ahundred thousand dollars, or a
million dollars a month, or 10million, whatever their goal is,
they're into that idea, it'sthe same.
(23:39):
It's the same, it's the sameidea around like sure, I'm, I'm,
I'm into the idea of lookinglike a Greek God, like I'd love,
you know, like have an eightpack and whatever the hell.
Like, I'm into that idea.
That's a great idea, you know,sign me up.
But then when I have to findout that I need to change, it's
(24:00):
like oh okay, well, hang on.
A second, very different story,really different story.
So when this is almost like asales question in a way, isn't
it In a strange way that you'relike Well, it's all related.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know, like, honestly it is yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So I said at the last event to my leading, my top
coach there, wendini, I call herher name's Wendy, but I call
her Wendini because she is magic, that's awesome and yeah, she's
brilliant.
And anyway, wendy, I said Wendywhen we started.
I said Wendy, how many peopleknow what they're signing up for
?
And she's like none, none ofthem actually know.
(24:35):
You see, everybody wants more,but when you start to learn a
process, it's like, oh, actuallychanging.
It's a very different story,very different story.
So how do I deal with a person?
Are you saying, how do you dealwith a person?
That's kind of resistance, yeah, like how to move deal with a
person.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's kind of the resistance, yeah, like how to
move back?
Well, basically move throughtheir resistance.
What would that sort of looklike?
And obviously it'll look likedifferent things for different
people, but I usually see thatresistance as that unconscious
programming, right, it rears upbecause it's like you know,
we've all been programmedagainst our will as kids.
(25:11):
And then when we do try andmake these changes cause it is a
change and it's natural forthat unconscious part of your
brain to pop up and go oh, no,no, no, no, no, no.
This is not what we do to staysafe, this is not what we do to
stay alive.
Like, why are you?
This is dangerous, right?
So like it's that perceiveddanger, and I feel like there's
(25:35):
a lot of different ways peoplecan move through that.
What do you feel like is reallyeffective for people to do to
work through that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
The first thing is like don't resist anything.
So if I was like, for example,let's say like I was speaking
with you today or I was speakingto on a sales call or a
coaching call or any human beingat all, don't resist anything,
because what you resist persists.
So when you're trying to forcesomething out of your life, you
(26:06):
have to let something out ofyour life.
So I don't know if maybe someof your viewers won't be
watching this on video, butright now what I'm doing is I'm
holding a piece of wood in myright hand above my head and
then below around chest height.
I've got my left hand.
So if I want to move this fromhere to here, all I need to do
is let go.
Okay, this, this is calledgravity, all right, so once you
(26:27):
let go of something, you'llinstantly make a space for that
something.
So when you're communicatingwith people, the key is you have
to get them into theirimagination.
You have to move them intotheir imagination so that they
consent to a new idea.
So it's not about like oh, Idon't have to do that, okay, no,
you just have to consent tosomething different.
(26:48):
So you don't have to forceanything on anyone, you don't
have to cross a line.
They're not allowed to comeover your line.
You're not allowed to go overtheir line.
But it's more about don'tresist anything.
Don't resist your own growth.
Don't resist your own growthwhen somebody else maybe is not
enjoying your presence or notenjoying the words that you're
saying.
(27:09):
Understand that that's reallynot them.
Like every time you meet aperson, understand that you're
not meeting a person.
What you're meeting is aconditioned mind.
In behind that person almostimagine a fence In behind that
person, in behind thatconditioned mind, over that
fence, there's a spiritual beingand that spiritual being is
wired up to do one thing and onething only to expand, to grow.
(27:33):
That's all it wants to do.
You can learn a lot from nature.
You can learn a lot fromobserving the universe.
It's in a perpetual state ofmultiplication and expansion.
If a human being, we're a partof the universe, therefore we
must obey the same laws.
So don't take anything personal.
When you meet a person, you'remeeting a conditioned mind.
You have to get over that mindand get into their heart.
(27:56):
Once you get into their heart,you'll find that the fence just
drops down.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, Tuning into that heart center is really
powerful I have found, you know,they always kind of say, like
gratefulness is the gateway tothat, like if you're having a
hard time accessing that version, to try and at least put
yourself in a place of serviceor place of gratefulness, and
(28:21):
that could be like a like astepping stone to that, that
larger part of it, because itkind of opens up that frequency
a little bit.
Do you find that too?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
well, it doesn't just open up the frequency.
You, they go to the frequency,yeah right, and it's like you
have to find out what's themotive behind this person are
they?
Are they financially motivemotivated?
Are they love motivated?
Or are they currentlyself-preservation?
Does the idea of power and famemotivate them?
Like, if you don't think powerand fame is a huge motivator for
the large majority of the earth, then just go on Facebook,
(28:55):
instagram and YouTube and you'llfind that it's a serious,
serious motive of people.
Is it fear, is it liberty, isit freedom that they're after?
So the more you understandabout people, you know, I found
that the more I understand aboutme, the more I understand about
you.
Because, yeah, sure, like Imight be a man, you might be a
woman, and I might have brownhair and you might have blonde
(29:16):
hair, and I might have browneyes, you might have blue eyes,
but inside we're actually allthe same.
We're all governed by one law,which is the law of growth.
So find that growth part ofthem, and if you're trying to
force your way in, they'llreject you.
They'll reject you.
Become curious, invite themacross it and bring them,
fascinate them, make themcurious.
Make them curious aboutthemselves.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, curiosity, I love that Just kind of getting
curious just in general andasking the right questions to
yourself daily.
That could be really powerful.
So, as far as that goes, areyou really big into all these
habits?
So we hear a lot about that.
(29:59):
We hear a lot about like, okay,shifting the mindset, stepping
into this other version of knowthat energetically exists and
aligning with that.
Um, do you believe that therehas to be a lot of structure and
habits around that, or can itbe easier?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
oh, it can be way easier.
Just get yourself an obsession.
You get, you.
Get yourself an obsession.
You don't got to really formthat many habits at all like.
There's only four core habitsto become financially free
always have a goal to bemultiplying your income, however
much you earn.
Uh, always have a goal thatyou're saving, how much you want
(30:43):
to save through a period oftime that you can save or invest
.
Uh, always have a goal to begiving at all times.
Be building yourself into theperson that donates X amount of
dollars.
And then the fourth is reduceyour debt.
So taxes or debt.
So there's your fourfinancially free habits.
Well, there you go Now.
Everybody knows.
But what's the motive behind it?
(31:03):
Who's the person going toproduce it?
What are you going to do withthe information you know?
Who's going to guide you?
You know I had a mentor sayonce in my early 20s.
He said, dave, the mind is ascary place, don't go in alone.
Everybody needs a Sherpa.
And he said, especially you,especially you need one because
you're in rough shape.
Yeah, so as we start to graspthe idea that we can change,
(31:28):
that there's a simple process tochange and that we're not the
ones that have to change.
So I'm going to reword that.
This is a bit advanced mindset.
This is a bit more advancedmindset here.
There's a power that grows thetree.
The tree does not grow itself.
The tree does not grow itself.
(31:52):
There's a power that grows thegrass.
There's a power that's keepingyour butt in your chair if
you're sitting in a chair.
There's a power that's keepingthe ceiling above in your
current room that you're in.
There's a power that the sunsets and rises.
You see, nature has no effort.
(32:14):
It appears effortless.
When you start to embody theimages of the new identity of
the person that you would liketo be, you will find that there
is a power that will come toyour aid, that will naturally
give you a state known as grace.
Our problem is always in theresistance.
(32:34):
It's in the attachment.
Once you start to let go,you'll find that this power will
take over your imagination.
It'll take over your health,it'll take over the whole thing.
Our only job as human beings isto form clear mental pictures.
That's it.
It's all we do.
I have clients that go from 10grand a month to half a million.
(32:58):
I have clients go from 200grand a month three months later
300, 400 grand a month, allthrough image building, like
there's a power that grows thetree.
So start to ask yourself what'sthe difference between me and
the tree?
Well, the only difference isthat you can choose what you
become.
The tree is not allowed tochoose, but I'll tell you here
(33:19):
and now.
The exact same laws that growthe tree are the exact same laws
that will expand your life.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Religious people say giving your will over to god.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That's what it is yeah, and that is so difficult
for people I find too right,like, so I always say like life
is just like a series of lettinggo right, and it's pretty much
the key to kind of everything isletting go of all kinds of
(33:56):
things, whether it's that oldversion of yourself, control.
We have that need for certainty.
As humans, we really want toknow that that's going to happen
.
And then, like you said, wespend a lot of time up here,
which is not the best.
And as creatives, I find too,if you have an extra spicy brain
(34:19):
and you tend to have a veryactive, let's say, brain with
lots of imagination, well thatcan be a superpower.
With lots of imagination, wellthat can be a superpower but
left unchecked, it could be yourdetriment.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, I had a client once that had a very, very let's
say, like I don't knowdeveloped imagination.
I don't know if he consciouslydeveloped it or not, but he had
a.
He had a stimulated imagination.
Hey, it was.
It was active, an active one,that that's the word.
He had an active imaginationand when he started working with
me I said, I said wow.
I said you really have a greatimagination.
I said, but your will is veryweak, like your willpower is
very, very poor.
Um, I said you gotta, you gotta, tighten up your focus, your
(35:02):
concentration.
I said and if you don't, youyou'll suffer.
And you know he was going tostart a new world and he went
off and after a week he gotrejected three times, came back,
was furious with me and he said, hey, I want a refund for this.
I said, no, I'm not giving youa refund.
I was like I told you what wehad to do.
I said I will work with you.
I said we'll develop your will,just refused.
(35:23):
He thought that just having theidea was enough.
It's not enough.
You need to embody it.
So I find that most people likehow I my problem was I was too
busy being me, and if I was toobusy being me, I had to change
that to get busy, to being theperson that I want to be.
And it's just a one, it's justa day-to-time practice.
(35:44):
It's it's very, very simple tobecome rich.
It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It's very simple to become happy too yeah, yeah it
is, I believe, that 100 um, butit it is really that practice.
It's like, like you said, likethat practice of continuously
releasing and letting go of thatso that you do make more room
(36:11):
for that expansion, indirectly,like let's talk for a second
about sales, right, and put itinto some I guess 3d sort of
context for people, right,because you know, the more I
(36:33):
always, I always say and Ialways believe that you know
your business is definitely areflection of how you feel,
what's going on inside, and so,even if you can have the best
intentions, that's why a lot ofpeople like you were talking
about before, I believe a lot ofpeople have years of being on
like let's like aself-development journey or
(36:55):
trying to better their lives orwhatever they want to call it,
and they, they just kind of keephitting up against a wall or a
ceiling because they're notembodying it Right, they're not
like letting go of that, becausethere is, it is, it is like a
saying goodbye and like a death,like you said.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh yeah, rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And moving through that is super scary for a lot of
people.
But in terms of sales, I findthat sometimes it's almost
easier because it's motivated bymoney.
Probably right Is that peopleare able to come into that lens
of, well, I do want to make moremoney and I want to learn how
to be better at selling.
(37:40):
And I always tell creatives too, like, if you, because a lot of
photographers, a lot ofcreatives will fall into what we
do by accident because they'regood at it, they make it look
easy, whatever, and then theysort of just fall into it and
then before they know it,they're like oh, I actually have
to know how to run a businessif I want to make money at this.
(38:01):
And that's their catalyst torealize that this is sales, this
is sales.
And there's this slimyconnotation about sales that a
lot of people have thisprogramming about.
So through that lens they'reable to at least approach it.
And I think that you touched onthat a little bit too when you
said people come to the events.
(38:22):
Yeah, it's, yes, I want to makemore money or I want to have a
better business or whatever, butit's the catalyst that actually
gets them in there to make thechange.
So, in terms of sales, what doyou think and I mean I know what
I would say, but what do youfeel is one of the most
(38:46):
important tools of mindset ormanifestation that comes into
practice with that sales process?
Like what?
What do you think really holdsthe um, pulls the lever, I guess
.
Does it make sense?
yeah, are we uh like when you'rehaving a conversation with
(39:08):
somebody, or just like shiftinga belief around it, or yeah,
well, I've kind of both, I guess, because, you know, first they
have to kind of shift the beliefwithin themselves to make that
shift to sell, because a lot ofpeople have that programming,
like I said, of Well everybodyhave that programming like.
(39:31):
I said of Well, everybody.
Yeah yeah, everybody has somekind of programming, but a lot
of people have a programmingthat sales is bad you know what
I mean or sales is gross,whatever, and so they feel very
guilty.
This is something I see a lot.
They feel very guilty this issomething I see a lot.
They feel very guilty aboutcharging people even like what
(40:02):
they know they need to becharging.
They feel guilty about it.
So, in that respect, what wouldyou?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
where would you go with that.
I just did a seminar in Torontotwo weeks ago called Money and
Guilt and it sold out in threedays.
Boom like that, All women.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's what I was going to say, do you?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
find that it's mostly men.
I mean mostly women, becausethat's what I see in my
communities.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yes, yeah, my client base is about 85% women too.
Not by design by just wowinteresting, that's what's
happening All too.
Not by design by just wowinteresting, that's what's
happening, all right.
So what we got to understand isthat that perception is not
it's not like unvalidated, it'sa pretty valid perception
because most salespeople arevery are, they're amateurs.
(40:42):
Okay, they're terrible, andthey're.
They don't understand the basiclaws of human contact, where
every human being on the planetwants to be left with the
impression of increase.
So, like everybody wants to bearound people that are going to
facilitate their expression,nobody wants to be taken from.
So everyone wants to be givento and served, but no one wants
(41:03):
to be taken from right.
That's why we got locks on ourcars and locks on our doors.
Why, to protect our stuff.
So everyone has an automaticself-preservation mechanism to
protect and there's just toomany salesperson sales process
encounters with amateurs thatvalidate that it's an icky or a
gross thing.
(41:23):
So if you've got that a part ofyour paradigm now, not
everybody does, but the largemajority of people do so.
If you understand that, let'ssay I'm going to throw a number
out your paradigm Now, noteverybody does, but the large
majority of people do so.
If you understand that, thenlet's say I'm going to throw a
number out of there.
This isn't an accurate number.
I don't want to be like that oranything behind it.
Let's say, 85% of people in theworld have that paradigm that
sales is icky.
So the chances of you comingout of that grouping of people
(41:46):
well, it's 85 out of 100 thatyou've got it.
If you want to make it, youhave to reconcile that.
So what we want to understandis that sales isn't doing
something to someone.
Sales is doing something forsomeone.
So what you want to do is youwant to create an environment
that is conducive to theunfoldment of a desire.
(42:09):
Okay, I'm going to repeat thatyou have to learn how to create
an environment that is conduciveto the unfoldment of a desire,
because every sale you've evermade and every sale you ever
will make has all went throughfrom the imagination into a
desire that person has purchased, because desire controls the
movement of the body.
(42:29):
Now, when you understand that,that your job is just to
facilitate desires, and thebetter you get at framing up a
conversation or an environmentwhere that person is allowed to
go to take themselves to thenext level, because this is the
truth.
You don't sell anyone anything.
(42:51):
What you do is you facilitatethat person expressing their
desires with and through you.
That's all that we do.
So even the idea oh, I soldthat person, okay, fine, that's
fine, unless if you don't wantto look any deeper.
But the truth is you didn't.
What you did is you facilitateda desire.
So if someone comes to you andthey want something, yet they're
(43:12):
afraid to act on it, well, it'sthe salesperson's job to help
that person overcome that fear.
It's actually the salesperson'sjob to help that individual
overcome the objection, becauseit's the objection that's going
to rob the dream.
That's what it does.
The objections all stem fromthe paradigm or the current
reality.
(43:33):
Your current reality stems fromyour paradigm.
So we got to go back over thatfence, get into their heart and
say, hey, it's okay, you can dothis.
There's all kinds of techniquesfor that.
When I discovered, can I sharea story?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
So here's two sales storiesthat changed my life.
(43:53):
So I started doing thisprofessionally in 2017.
And I'll never forget this itwas November 30th 2017.
I did my first ever talk thatday.
I installed a kitchen and made$400.
I used to make 50 bucks an houras a carpenter.
And that night I did a90-minute talk and I made
$20,000.
(44:14):
And my God, did that everchange my perception?
I was like what?
Like that, just okay, hang on,that just don't happen.
But I liked it and I was likeI'm going to keep doing these
things.
So I started, I booked thatroom every day.
I think it was the lastThursday of every month for a
(44:34):
year and I started doing thesetalks at the last Thursday of
every month for a year.
And I started doing these talksat the last Thursday of every
month for a year.
And there's this lady used tokept coming.
Her name was Robin and Robinwould always come up to me like,
oh, that was great andwonderful, and then she would
leave, never purchasing, likethe mentorship.
And it was the fifth time thatRobin came and she came up to me
and I just said oh, oh, my God,I'm not talking to this woman.
(44:55):
So I was just like I don't,there was a sales lesson in here
.
I just didn't fully get it.
I said I put my hand out and Iwas like I said Robin, I'm not
talking to you.
You've been here five times now.
Are you in or are you out?
Now, I wasn't talking aboutnecessarily in or out with me,
are you in or out with you?
Because you just keep sayingthe same things over and over to
(45:18):
me and I don't have to give youmy life.
I've got a wife, I've gotfamily, I've got people that
want to be around here, not justpeople that want to just hang
out at the side of the pool,right.
So she said I'm in Now.
That was a huge awareness thatI didn't realize at the time,
that if you just demand adecision, you'll get a decision.
(45:39):
If you permit indecision, youwill receive indecision.
You are not helping the personGet them to make a decision yes
or no, yes or no, or if I'm notsure, okay, what do you need to
know to get it to a yes?
So anyway, robin came into thementorship 10 weeks in.
She said her life had changedmore in 10 weeks than it had in
20 years.
(46:00):
On the 11th week she called meup.
She was just stressed out.
She's like hey, can I talk toyou?
And I said sure.
And she said I just bought thispackage.
Now at the time my mentorshipwas five grand.
So me five months to sell afive grand package.
She bought a package from awoman online $20,000 in 30
(46:21):
minutes.
And when she told me this, Ithought to myself you know a lot
of ignorant people would belike jealous or whatever.
Oh, why'd you do that?
No, first thing I thought waswhat the hell does that lady
know that?
I didn't know.
I decided at that moment.
And Earl Mangiel said this.
I just never understood it.
He said your success in life isdependent upon your ability to
sell.
I dedicate the next three yearsof my life to selling.
(46:46):
That's all I read, that's all Ivisualized.
That's all I did.
All I did was listen to salesrecordings.
I'd listen to my own, I'd findfriends.
I started a sales mastermindwhere other salespeople we'd get
on, we would share ideas.
I was researching Mr Beastyesterday, just kind of learned
about this guy.
He did the same thing for threeyears.
People don't know this.
(47:06):
People just think that peoplejust get the success he's been
at it since he was 11.
You know almost a decade ofinsane levels of focus insane
levels.
So that's when I dedicated mylife to become a salesperson, my
income.
That's when I crossed my firsthundred grand, or sorry, my
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hundred grand a month.
That's when I crossed $1.4million in under three years
from just learning how to sell.
Now, another huge lesson in mysales journey was this I did
this call with this lady, and Ialso think the universe made it
that this was her name.
It was Carmen Diaz, not CameronDiaz.
That would have been sweet,though.
It was Carmen Diaz, and I knewwithin a second, once Carmen
(47:53):
Diaz came on the line, that shedidn't have any money.
Now, I'd already scheduledCarmen 30 minutes.
My paradigm instantly saidlet's get this call done in 10
minutes and let's just get outof here.
That was my original attitude.
This voice I swear to God, thisvoice went off in my head and
(48:16):
it was like this call is not foryou, it's for her.
Now I've shared this story where, a couple times, I've teared up
after because it changed mylife so much.
You see, prior to that moment,my biggest mistake was I would
reflect the attitude of theperson I was speaking to, or I
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would reflect the ability or thepotential or the capacity of
the person I was speaking to.
So I was only ever speaking tothe paradigm.
I was never speaking to thesoul.
That day I made a committeddecision that every person I
would meet from then on in, Iwould give them a 10 out of 10.
So let's say Carmen Diaz's lifewas, let's just say, a 2 out of
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10.
I was instantly going toreflect a 2 out of 10 to her.
If someone gets angry at you,we can tend to get angry at them
.
We tend to treat people the waythat we're treated by them.
So I started taking the highroad on everything 10 out of 10,
.
Within eight months I earned$1.4 million after I started
doing that.
Start to talk to the higherlevel.
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But you got to be courageous.
You got to be courageousbecause that paradigm don't want
to let you in, does not want tolet you in.
Had this one gentleman once too.
Now you got me on the salesstuff.
I love it.
Yeah.
I had this one gentleman oncetoo who came on the call and
he's like, he's like I don't buyon the first call and I said,
oh, I said that's OK.
I said, well, today could beyour first, yeah, yeah.
(49:44):
And then I just conditioned mymind and I was his first.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, I talk about this a lot too as fine with
photographers, um, as fine withphotographers, um, you know, and
and that was a really greatexplanation, a visual, if you
will, for a lot of people, ifthey, if they needed that to you
know, looking through that lensof sales or service, I mean,
that's really what it means isto really guide them to that
(50:13):
desire.
They already and this is what Itell photographers all the time
People came to you for aservice.
They came to you because theywere attracted to your work.
They think you do a good job bythat point of someone booking
with you, they've been sold intothis desire.
(50:33):
You've been able to do that.
So you need to finish thatprocess with them, not leave
them hanging on the other sideof that, because that is a
disservice.
You're not actually, you know,finishing the true culmination
of that right.
So a lot of service providersor photographers, let's say like
(50:53):
, who are selling products andservices and not just like
digital images.
That's where who are sellingproducts and services and not
just digital images, that'swhere it gets a little clunky
for them, because that wholeguilt comes in.
I love that you are speaking tothat, because I feel like that
is of the utmost importance,especially with women.
It could have a lot to do withthe way that we as women are
(51:14):
programmed.
I mean, I can definitely godown that rabbit hole there's a
lot to say about that but it'snot doing anyone any good and
it's certainly not doing you anygood if you are continuing to.
You know, carry that.
But if someone is coming to youfor a service, you know, that
alone is the catalyst for you towant to finish that process and
(51:38):
to guide them through that.
Sales used to be one of thosethings that made me want to
throw up.
Literally, that was the thingfor me.
I didn't even realize I hadissues with this until I was put
into a situation where I had toquote unquote had to sell in
order to make a living at what Iloved to do, and it brought up
(52:00):
all of these triggers and I findthat most people, when that
comes up, they just sort of runaway from it instead of dealing
with it.
But I knew that I needed to andI wanted to.
I wanted to let that go.
I want like I was like.
This is obviously showing upbecause I got.
You know this is not serving meyou wanted to let that go.
I was like this is obviouslyshowing up because this is not
serving me.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
You wanted to let it go, right.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, this is not serving me, and I also really
wanted to serve my clientsbetter.
I wanted them to have anamazing end result of this
experience of working with meand handing over some digital
images.
I ain't going to cut it Like.
I wanted them to walk away withbeautiful artwork and feel
(52:38):
really good, right, about that.
So I had to do that work onmyself.
I had to look at all of that andhad that desire to change and
now sales is like my favoritepart of what I do, like it is so
completely, vastly differentthan what I had perceived it to
(52:58):
be in the past, and I love asmany conversations as we can
have about this for people,because I feel like there's
still a lot of taboo around it.
But I want I want people tounderstand how amazing it can be
when you are in that place andyou are coming from a
(53:19):
heart-centered approach, likeyou said, 10 out of 10, you're
showing up.
You're showing up to yourhighest good right.
Like you are stepping into yourhighest potential and alignment
and like nothing bad can comefrom that, because it's energy
at that point right, and it'snot even just for you, so you
(53:41):
don't even know sometimesyourself from the equation,
completely everyone will bebetter off.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's the problem with, uh, with mankind in
general.
Everyone's just trying to getexcessive getting.
You know people want to get sothey can get.
You know that's I want to getthis so I can get that.
But what we got?
To start to learn how torecondition the mind, to learn
how to give so you can give.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Exactly.
I tell that to people too.
It's like you, you, you knowthey have all these problems
like these, really theseobstacles, right Of raising
their prices, and I was like,well, if you really want to
truly be of service Like the way, this is a path to that too,
because when you are making moremoney, you can give things away
, you can be of more service,you can.
(54:21):
You can then step into thatother person centeredness and it
really needs to be that.
It can't.
It's not about you, none ofthis.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
No, no, like even your goals.
Like, if you go back to thefinancial freedom goals, like I
said, number one, have a goal toincrease your income.
Number two, have a goal ofsaving and investing.
Number three, have a goal thatyou want to give.
And number four is, you know,eliminate debt or reduce your
debt.
Well, last year I'm just doingmy taxes right now I donated
(54:55):
five times more money than Iused to earn.
Yeah, you see.
So we have to learn how tofreely give and graciously
receive.
And a lot of the ladies, they'repretty good at the giving part,
but the receiving part has toget.
Their consciousness has tochange a little bit in that,
(55:15):
like you, you want to getcomfortable.
You got to get comfortable.
These ideas, like if we weregoing to talk about habits, um,
the number one habit for successis that failures don't like to
do.
Uh, successful people form thehabit that failures don't like
to do.
I'll repeat that successfulpeople have formed the habit of
doing things that failures don'tlike to do.
And the biggest thing thatpeople do not like to do, they
(55:39):
do not like to talk to othersabout a subject that that other
does not want to talk about.
That's what they do.
That's the number one thing.
So it's the fear of criticism.
It's like failures don't wantto talk to others about a
subject that that other personmight not want to talk about.
And if you think I'm wrong,just look at how many men and
(56:01):
women go to bed every singlenight and with an elephant in
the room for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50years.
They just don't want to mentionthe thing.
Everyone wants to brush itunder the rug.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Well, yeah, I mean, I think people Tony Robbins talks
about this a lot too People domore to avoid pain than seek
pleasure.
A hundred percent, and that'sexactly what that is.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, they'd rather die than to address it.
You know it's like.
Well Jesus Christ said a couplethousand years ago.
He said know the truth and thetruth shall set you free.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Jesus Christ said it a couple thousand years ago.
He said know the truth, and thetruth shall set you free.
Yeah, yes, oh, yeah.
So that's a really great pointand I think that we can start to
wrap up on that, because Icould keep you here all day
talking about this kind of stuff.
I hope that you guys hear a lotof the points that we talked
about, but that one is reallypowerful the fear of being
(56:58):
perceived, of being, of beingjudged of.
You know it's keeping you, it'sreally keeping you the same and
stuck, and if you desiresomething different, you really
do have to be someone differentwho doesn't adhere to that
exactly.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
If if people aren't gossiping about you and people
aren't judging you, you're justnot doing it right.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
And you're playing small.
Okay, you're playing small,you're not sticking out.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Exactly Be the purple cow like Seth Godin always
talks about.
That's right.
Stick out.
You've got to be willing to bedifferent.
Yes, thank you so much forbeing here.
I loved all of this.
Like I said, I could definitelygo deep into all of this, and
so this was really fun to pickyour brain.
Thank you for sharing all ofthat with us today.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Thank you, Renee.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Okay, so what are you guys walking away with?
I wanna hear your takeaways.
Obviously, I can't wait to hearwhat you thought about this
episode, if this helped shiftanything for you.
I think some of the takeawaysare goals are important.
You've got to know what youwant.
You got to have some clarity,and a really great way to get
(58:07):
into the practice of knowingwhat you want is to commit to 14
days of writing that down everysingle day and allowing what
comes in to become more clearover time.
But you've got to have clarityon that.
Without it, it's going to bereally hard to even know where
you're going.
Another takeaway is that weneed to be willing to let go and
(58:29):
release this past version ofourselves if we want to become
this new version.
So, yeah, have the clarity andalso be willing to let go of
this old version of you.
And then, a really importanttakeaway that I hope a lot of
you guys ponder and take toheart is the sales portion of
(58:51):
this and how soul centered andother person centered it really
needs to be in order for manythings to happen.
But for you to really feel goodabout what you do and I always
talk about that too that thewhole purpose of all of this is
(59:13):
to feel good.
Abraham Hicks talks about thata lot, you know, and I really
think that in sales it is 100%possible to feel good.
There's no reason for you to befeeling guilty.
If you are feeling guilty, it'sprogramming.
It's coming up, you know, sothat you can address it and move
through it.
And that that is the biggeststep is to actually be willing
(59:39):
to have an uncomfortableconversation, even with yourself
, about that, because this wholefear of being perceived,
criticized, spoken about poorly,it's keeping you stuck and if
you desire more for your lifeand for your family, you do need
(59:59):
to be willing to let thatattachment go, because it is an
attachment.
So I would love to, like I said, hear your thoughts on that.
I hope this kind of opens yourmind a little bit and maybe
allow some other awesome,awesome things to drop in.
(01:00:20):
And if you are a creative or aphotographer and you know it is
time for you to make somechanges and you are ready, get
on a call with me, let's chat,let's talk about how you can
leave that version of yourselfbehind.
Let's talk about what thatlooks like for you in the future
.
Get some clarity on what it isyou actually truly desire.
(01:00:44):
When was the last time you evenallowed yourself to think about
that?
I'd love to help.
All the info on how to reachout.
Book a call.
It's in the show notes so youknow what to do.
Have a great rest of your weekand I will see you guys next
week.
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