May 28, 2024 • 34 mins
Hey friends, welcome back to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo! I had the pleasure of chatting with Dr. Jeffrey Gross, a pioneer in regenerative medicine and the founder of ReCELLebrate.
If you're curious about how stem cells can revolutionize health and anti-aging, this is an episode you don't want to miss!
In this episode, Dr. Gross shares his journey from traditional neurosurgery to becoming a leader in stem cell therapy. We explore the amazing potential of stem cells in treating chronic pain, anti-aging, and even hair restoration.
Dr. Gross breaks down the science in an easy-to-understand way, revealing how stem cells can rejuvenate your body, reduce inflammation, and promote overall health without the need for invasive surgery or pharmaceuticals. You'll hear about real-life success stories and the cutting-edge techniques being used at Recelebrate.
Tune in to discover how stem cells can be a game-changer for your health and wellness. Whether you're dealing with joint pain, looking for anti-aging solutions, or simply interested in the latest advancements in medicine, this episode has something for everyone.
Dr. Gross's passion and expertise are truly inspiring, and I guarantee you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for the power of regenerative medicine. So, hit play and get ready to be amazed!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo, where
we blend rock-solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
professional photographer atyour service.
We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
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So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
Let's dive in.
Hey friends, welcome back toTried and True with a Dash of
(00:27):
Woo.
I'm your host, Renee Bowen.
Today I've got Dr Jeffrey Grosson the show and he is going to
talk to us all about stem cells.
This is something I haveactually been interested in for
a really long time, but now inthe last two years specifically,
and all of the updates and justthe technology and how amazing
(00:49):
this whole subject is really, Ihave kind of done a deep dive on
it, not only for myself and myhealth benefits, but for the
people in my family.
So I am really excited to chatwith him today.
You guys are going to reallyreally love this conversation.
If you've never heard of stemcell medicine or regenerative
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medicine, you're in for a treat,because he breaks it all down
for us.
Dr Jeffrey Gross is the founderof Recelebrate and a pioneer
and a pattern disruptor in thefield of regenerative medicine,
With a career dedicated totreating a myriad of chronic
health problems, Dr Gross is asought-after expert,
transforming thousands of livesby transitioning from
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traditional surgical methods tothe innovative use of stem cells
.
He is a neurosurgeon, so he hasbeen practicing medicine a very
long time, which I find isreally, really interesting.
I always love when medicalprofessionals are looking into
new and cutting edge things tohelp us live longer and better
lives.
Medicine and healthcare areseemingly advancing at the speed
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of light these days, and sometreatments are proving to be
real game changers, while otherscreate more confusion than
benefit and leave much to bedesired.
So at Recelebrate, Dr Grossoffers precise diagnosis and
treatment, revealing patients'stem cells healing power for
prolonged health.
These cells, when rejuvenated,display powerful anti-aging
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properties, offering relief andrejuvenation without the need
for surgery.
So in our chat, Dr Jeff sharesall these insights of the
holistic applications of stemcells in healthcare, showcasing
their potential in addinggenerational health to
generational wealth.
So let's dive in.
(02:38):
Hey, Dr Jeff, thank you so muchfor joining us here today.
I'm really excited about thisconversation.
We're going to go deep intosome medical stuff, but I know
you're going to be able toexplain it really well for us.
So thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm very happy to be here.
It's great to talk to you andyour audience.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You got it.
So I want to just jump right inand kind of find out, like as a
how did your journey inmedicine lead you into this?
Longevity benefits of stemcells and all of that, because
that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Right.
Well, I was practicingtraditional medicine.
I'm a neurosurgeon with a spinespecialty.
I was taking care of neck andback pain, and I still do, for
the vast majority of my career.
But it was my patients, many ofthem, who were in that gap
between suffering some type ofneck and back pain where the
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less invasive treatments wereinadequate.
The injections, the therapies,the medicines, the time,
everything they tried justwasn't adequate to fully address
their problems.
But they didn't find themselvesand I agree with them bad
enough for surgery, which wasthe only thing left on the menu.
So they would come to me well,how about this?
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How about that?
How about lasers?
How about crystals?
How about this?
How about stem cells?
And you know, my undergraduatebackground is in is in that type
of molecular biology, cellularbiology field, and I was sort of
Always wanting to get back intothat.
So it just kind of cametogether old, you know stodgy
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neurosurgery conferences.
I started going to stem cellconferences and taking
educational courses, continuingeducation, stem cell biology and
regenerative medicine, and Igot into it for the spine.
But I'm doing so much more nowand I feel like my career is
reinvigorated.
Every day is exciting anddifferent and I love it again.
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I have a renewed sense ofenthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's really cool and very important.
Obviously, you know like lovingwhat you do Because is it
because you're seeing suchawesome results from people with
this?
Is that they're having likelife changing results?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
In part, but it's seeing the results with you know
, no pharmaceuticals and theleast invasion and
non-surgically like I'll puttingthat all together it gives new
options for things and and andit's creating new projects for
me and my patients.
So we're working on all kindsof great projects and research
too.
Patients so we're working onall kinds of great projects and
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research too.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That's very cool.
So, all right, Demystify thiswhole process, for, like those
of us like I definitely havebeen looking into stem cells for
a while.
So I mean, I'm by no means anexpert but, I, at least have a
little bit of knowledge, becauseI do think that it's
fascinating and I'm a bigproponent of trying to not go
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the pharmaceutical route ifpossible, even in terms of the
anti-aging or whatever quoteunquote anti-aging stuff.
I'm not a Botox girl.
I don't do fillers, stuff likethat.
I mean to each their own, it'sjust not my thing.
So I have definitely beenlooking into the whole stem
cells and I had knee problems soI was always looking into it
thing.
So I have definitely beenlooking into the whole stem
cells and I had knee problems soI was always looking into it
there.
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But I know a lot of peopledon't really know a lot about
this yet.
So you know, let's kind ofmaybe demystify the science
behind harnessing your own stemcells for health.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Absolutely so, and stop me if I get too far into it
and we could take this inchunks.
But our bodies have stem cellsin them and when we're a fetus,
we're all stem cells.
You know, we're an embryo andthese stem cells are creating us
and they're developing intodifferent types of tissues and
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organs and limbs and everythingwe need.
And then when we're born, we'restill using those stem cells to
create us and when we're fullygrown, we still have stem cells
that we use to renew our tissues, that help us heal if we need
them, that renew our immunesystem.
I mean we have these banks ofcells that renew our immune
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system.
I mean we have these banks ofcells.
Well, as we age, or the reasonwhy we age is we're exposed to
the environment, the world, inwhat we eat, what we drink,
what's in our water, what we'remissing in our nutrition, and
our body is busy defendingagainst the world, and that's
called the inflammatory responseand that inflammation leads to
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aging, it leads to chronicdiseases and it affects our
cells and our stem cells and ourstem cells become less useful
in healing or preventingproblems and it's slower to heal
.
If you look at a three-year-oldwho scratches his knee on the
sidewalk and he cries.
Mom puts a Band-Aid on it,sends him on his way.
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A few days later that Band-Aidfalls off in the bathtub and the
scab is almost healed, whereasif you do that to a 75 or
80-year-old, that same injurywill take weeks to fully heal.
And the difference there iscellular, and particularly stem
cellular, activity.
So those stem cells have theability to renew, to divide, to
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create and replace tissues.
So when we talk aboutregenerative or stem cell
medicine, we're talking aboutleveraging that knowledge and
using it to our advantage toaccelerate healing or fight
diseases or help with thosekinds of things.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Nice and we can use our own stem cells, correct or,
like I know, there's varioustypes of stem cells.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You can use your own, but when you change the oil in
your car, you don't put the oilback in.
When you change the oil in yourcar, you don't put the oil back
in.
Now I say that funny.
There are many applications forusing your own stem cells and
there are benefits in theliterature.
Just, you know, in my view youknow, maybe oversimplified if
you're going to do this, ifyou're going to jump in and do
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this, why not use the best,youngest source?
And that comes from ethicallydonated placenta, umbilical cord
, amniotic fluid after a motherdelivers by C-section.
So we could take away thoseother myths out there regarding
this.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's really important.
I wanted to make sure, sure, wecovered that Fun fact back in
1998, when we had our first son,and it was literally just sort
of like.
I don't even remember where Igot the information, but I was a
massage therapist for a whileand I was definitely in the LA
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holistic scene in the 90s, so Imust have come across it at some
point where they said, well,you can, you know, you can store
the cord blood, you can do yourcord blood storage.
And back in 1998, that wasreally new, so it was really
inexpensive Like I think it onlycost us like $300 to get to
collect it.
And then we are locked in forlife at $50 a year at this lab.
(10:00):
So we still have his cord bloodfrozen in a lab.
So we still have his cord bloodfrozen in a lab.
And I'm like, okay, you know,not really sure what, but what
you know.
At that time they were sayingthis could cure cancer.
Like you could.
You know, god forbid, somethinghappens.
You never know.
You know when that would comein handy.
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And so I was like, well, maybewe should just do it.
So we do have it.
But I think that's really andit's interesting because that's
my son with autism.
So I've always thought like Iwonder if there's, you know,
because I know like there'sinflammation in the brain and
stuff like that and he'sdefinitely come a long way Like
he's he works, he has a job he's, you know he's great, but
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health wise I'm like that might.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
unfortunately, come in handy one day.
Yeah, I know the reason.
We did core blood storage yearsago.
You got a great price, by theway.
Yeah, the reason we did thatwas there was a new protocol for
treating childhood leukemiasblood-borne cancers and to do
that you have to just kill alltheir bone marrow and you have
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to completely replace it withwhat's called a bone marrow
transplant, which does have tobe a match, and we'll come back
to that concept in a second bankof hemopoietic stem cells,
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which is the type of tissue thatyou put in your bone marrow and
it creates your immune systemand then your blood cells and
that kind of thing.
And the easiest way to do thatis from your umbilical cord.
Now there are newer uses foryour own umbilical cord.
You can have your own stemcells.
There are labs now that will,you know, take some of those and
grow them in petri dishes todivide and expand them and give
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them back to you.
But you don't need to have amatch.
For most of regenerativemedicine.
You can have someone else's,because the immune system they
don't get identified as foreignbecause they haven't decided
what kind of cell to be yet.
So these stone cells areprotected or privileged, we
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should say.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's really interesting.
That's really really cool.
So where you're at with whatyou do at ReCelebrate, what do
you guys mainly use thistechnology for and what do you
see patients for?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
earlier, you know, to help my patients with spine
problems right Spinal pain anddidn't want surgery.
But it's blossomed into firstother musculoskeletal structures
and, like you said, you've hadPRP.
Prp is sort of a low levelregenerative medicine and then
you know there are a couplesteps above and we do those
steps and they could be stemcells or stem cell signaling
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factors, called exosomes, whichmaybe we'll get into in a little
bit, and the.
So we do a lot of joint workand but we also it's blossomed
into this whole you know cellhealth, cellular health or
cellular metabolism oranti-inflammatory sort of arena,
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which really overlaps withanti-aging medicine or longevity
medicine.
Because anything you do thathelps fight chronic inflammation
, the source of aging anddisease, most diseases, then
you're helping to live longerand live healthier, not just
longer but good years, healthy,quality years.
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So we're doing, you know, ivthings.
We also have sexual healthshots called P shots and O shots
, with these to help both themen and the ladies.
And then we also have somecosmetic things we do for skin
rejuvenation and for thinninghair, and I've had some of those
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back here on my scale as well,yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm 53, so that stuff is verytop of mind for me and I'm not
looking to do a lot ofintervention.
But if I were, that's the kindof stuff that I feel like would
make the biggest difference,Because it's not that invasive
and it's not, like you said,like super pharmaceutical right,
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Like so that no pharmaceutical.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All natural.
It's as natural as you can get.
It's a biologic right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I love that.
Yeah, I know when we were doingthe PRP for my knees my surgeon
was trying to get stem cellsbut insurance and stuff like
that.
So can you talk a little bit orspeak to a little bit about how
that sort of works?
I know that a lot of this isn'tobviously super covered by
insurance, at least not yet.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Maybe it'll change.
It may change.
There are a lot of politicaland economic influences from big
pharma and companies that makescrews and rods to put inside
the body.
Here's the way out.
Because none of the claims areyet approved, the insurance
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company says, well, we're notgoing to pay for it.
Right, it's all about what theysay you can say or they say you
can't say so.
So just to be upfront, you knowthe FDA has not approved any
claims, so I can't guaranteethat anything here will treat or
cure anything.
But as a physician, I've neverguaranteed, you can never
guarantee.
You know it's a practice, it'sa trial.
So, nonetheless, even PRP,which you've had maybe insurance
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helped pay for, is not approvedby the FDA for claims.
So you're right, there's alittle budge into what they will
approve because the insurancecompanies figured out that PRP
is potentially more effectiveand less expensive than jumping
to surgery.
Not that there's a role forsurgery for some folks, Of
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course there will always be thatbut they looked at the cost
savings because, at the end ofthe day, that's all they really
care about.
They looked at the cost savingsbecause, at the end of the day,
that's all they really careabout.
So insurance does not yet coverany of this unless you have
what's called an HSA plan orhealth savings account plan,
where you, as you should, beable to control the flow of your
health care dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Interesting, yeah, yeah, I do think that, like you
said, it's kind of ever-changingand we'll have to see kind of
how that goes.
But I do think it's fascinatingbecause a doctor that I know
has said that he has seen peoplelike literally just not need
anything else after this, andthat's the other part of it is
that it gets you better.
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So there's that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's.
You know Big Pharma doesn'tlove that.
We can't claim it.
But I have the same experienceas your friend because we have.
I'm amazed sometimes by thesimplicity and the results.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, that's what I've heard kind of across the
board, so that's reallyinteresting.
Is it a one size fits all sortof approach, Like when someone
comes to see you?
Obviously, you know, as adoctor I'm sure it's not just
like a hey, here's what we'regoing to do for you, and it's
just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
No, no, we really like to use what's called
precision medicine andindividualize the care.
Even even if you do end up withsomething that's the person
next to you ends up with.
You know, we want to make surethat the person is optimized in
their inflammatory state.
That means their diet is good,their sleep is good, their
nutritional gap meaningsupplements are ideal.
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Maybe hormone optimization isin place, because if we're going
to deliver these regenerativebiologics, we want the body and
the cells to be most receptiveso you get the best benefit.
So there's a lot of work to doahead of time, quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, Now I know you guys you're located in Las Vegas
, is that right?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
So I mean, I'm sure you getpeople who do visit you from
everywhere, but are you seeing,like if someone is interested in
this, let's just say, like ifsomeone listening is interested
in pursuing some sort ofregenerative medicine in this
way, whether it's for, like wewere talking about, joint
related stuff or anti-aging whatwould be their first step in
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finding someone and what shouldthey look for?
And like, vet the people whoare doing it, cause I know there
are going to be some peoplepopping up doing this and got to
make sure it's legit.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It's a great question .
So do your homework.
You know you can do this online.
Now the only caution there is alot of the places outside the U
?
S have been doing this longer,but they're not.
They don't have to be cautiouswith claims and you see a lot of
websites that say we curediabetes and things like that.
So just be cautious and do yourhomework and look at the
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different type of regenerativebiologics they have experience
with.
Is it PRP, is it stem cells?
And where do they get thosecells from?
That's important.
And do they expand those cells?
I'll come back to that if youwant.
And then the last regenerativeprobably the most advanced
regenerative biologic are calledexosomes, and exosomes are
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small not that cells aren't, buteven smaller grouped signaling
factors that are used forcell-to-cell communication, and
those end up being, at the endof the day, really what's doing
the work?
So we jump ahead and use.
Most of our patients receiveexosomes.
They travel further in the body, they penetrate tissue better,
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they last longer, they're easierto handle and they're half the
price of the cells oh, okay,talk to me about that and um,
and also, like you said, lastinglonger.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So, like, how long on average do you see them last?
Like, is this something youhave to continue doing?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
well, the goal with let's take a joint, because it's
probably our most popular thingto do A lot of knee problem,
people trying to avoid surgery,you see bone on bone,
osteoarthritis, wearing andtearing of the meniscus, that
kind of thing for a knee, forexample, so something like that
the goal is to do one injectionand be done, so there's an
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initial anti-inflammatorybenefit.
People have improvement in painand function right away, and
then it usually takes months forthem to see the cartilage begin
to restore.
And we do have really coolexamples of MRIs we've done
later just to see where thethickness of the cartilage is
improved, just to see where thethickness of the cartilage is
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improved.
So this is, you don't see, youdon't hear about this from your,
your neighborhood orthopedicdoctors.
And the problem is that and Iwas that guy right, I was.
I was trained in the 90s bypeople who were trained in the
60s and 70s and we were doingthe same thing that they were
doing, you know, 50, 60 yearsearlier, because not a lot moves
forward unless someone takes aleap or a jump.
So so when you find thesedoctors in your area who are
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doing regenerative medicine,make sure they have the full
experience where they've.
They've, they've done the oldstuff and they know the
difference between this newerbiology and they understand the
biology of it, between thisnewer biology and they
understand the biology of it.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, that's very important.
So, yeah, I definitely can seethe benefits there.
As far as you know cause I wasdefinitely in that place I was
nowhere, like my surgeon waslike you, you're too young for a
double knee replacement, butthat's exactly where you're
headed.
And you know my mom has badknees.
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I've got bad knees.
My mom did just have a doubleknee replacement, but she's a
lot older and I didn't want togo that route.
So I was like, okay, like whatelse can I do?
Like I just started looking atall of these different things.
So the PRP was like the one thatwas able to help me, just at
least get it, you know, sort ofunder control.
But stem cells are definitelyat the top of my list, like I
said.
I mean they have helped myknees tremendously.
Like the inflammation is likenight and day, and that was even
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two years ago.
So that's good, because PRPdoesn't normally last and
sometimes it doesn't even take.
You know what I mean Because,like you said, it's like a low
level, not as robust as what youguys are doing.
So I definitely still wouldlike to do that.
I'm getting some arthritis inmy thumbs.
That's also on my list and I,like I said, let's talk a little
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bit about the, the anti-agingstuff, because that to me and
and I think a lot of people inmy audience are going to find
that interesting as far as likeskin stuff, right, does it help
actually regrow collagen, likewhat does it do?
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It improves collagen production and elastin
production so you have bothstructure and elasticity.
It it also improves the skinhealth because it stimulates
your, you know, dermal cellsthat make the epidermis so it's
more, you know, hydrated skin,better looking skin, smoother
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skin.
It helps fight against finelines and wrinkles and
pigmentation because healthy,you know, melanin producing
cells will be more uniform.
So you have more uniform skincolor.
And if for hair, it'llstimulate, if you have follicles
, it'll stimulate the follicularhealth as well.
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We've seen this in somepatients the color of your hair,
because the follicle usuallyhas associated pigment cells,
melanin producing cells, and ifyou catch those and they haven't
died, they haven't gone intocomplete senescence, you can
help reduce the inflammation andimprove their function
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basically.
So we can't take a bald personand grow hair with what we have
available to us.
We can't take a bald person andgrow hair with what we have
available to us.
Now there are new kinds of stemcells that are being worked on,
called induced pluripotent stemcells.
Those are too experimental forus to feel safe using them in
this setting, but they may beable to restore follicles.
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So we have new things coming.
We're just we're justscratching the surface really.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That is really exciting.
That's very, very cool, like Iknow.
You know just like goingthrough menopause and stuff
definitely have gotten thinnerhair.
So you're saying that peoplewho like before, if you catch
the hair before it goes gray,you can actually stop it.
We've actually seen somereversal.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
To be honest, really, yeah, and I have to.
One of my favorite stories isone of our nurses here in the
office brought her father infrom out of town.
He was over 80, I believe, andhe was.
He was just sort of losing hisenergy.
So we did an anti-aging IV onhim and he had all kinds of
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benefits and his gray hairstarted to turn black from the
IV just one IV.
All right One IV.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, well, you're only like three and a half hours
from me in Vegas, so I will becoming to see that doesn't
happen with everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
but it's amazing and it just shows you the power of
what or the damage thatinflammation is doing to us, and
the power of fighting thatinflammation.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, that is inflammation is so huge, like,
wow, that inflammation yeah,that is inflammation is so huge
Like wow, that's that's really Ididn't realize that stem cells
dealt with that.
Like I didn't realize that waspart of it.
And inflammation you hear thatall the time.
I mean that's definitely I hadbecause I have Hashimoto's.
So you know, if you have anautoimmune disease of any kind,
yeah, Deal.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So so you think about it.
Cells have two main programmingmodes.
They're either in defense mode,which is inflammatory because
it calls for the immune systemthat's the inflammation we're
always fighting against ourenvironment.
Or in autoimmune you have ahyperinflamed state that you
didn't ask for, that gottriggered.
Or you have this optimallyfunctioning mode, which involves
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cell repair and involve it'santi-inflammatory right.
You're making antioxidants.
Most of our repair ourselves doat night.
So people that don't sleep asmuch have more inflammation or
don't sleep restoratively havemore inflammation.
So, as an example but you'reabsolutely right, we need to use
whatever we can to keepourselves away from the
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inflammatory programming.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, it's huge.
I've just seen that I mean,like I've reduced my
inflammation so much in just thelast two years and it's made an
incredible impact on my health,like incredible.
So I I believed it before, butI've actually experienced it
across the board.
So, like, even just with dietyou know people listening like
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there's a lot of ways you canreduce your inflammation as well
, but this I had no idea itreally actually did all of that
as well.
So, do you guys do?
I'm sure it's probably a wholearray of things.
But like, as far as like theaesthetics yeah, you have ivs,
obviously, but do you do likeinjections and facials and all
that kind of stuff too, or no,we're not we're not really like,
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uh, in aesthetics, uh, uh, youknow, um, we don't do facials
and the kind of thing you getusual esthetician.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But we can do the medical side of it.
So we will do, uh, the microinjection, um, so we have a
micro injector, we numb the faceand we'll, we'll put exosomes,
uh, and some hyaluronic acidserum and inject the face and
wherever you need it, andsimilarly we inject the scalp
for the thinning hair, um, andthen the, the joint work is
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actually done at an injectionfacility with a little sedation.
We do spine and joints thereand then everything else is IV,
which we can do in the office.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh, that's really cool.
Yeah, I didn't realize that itwas like that accessible, so
that's really good to know.
Okay, so what would you say topeople who are skeptics about
this?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, I was a skeptic until about six years ago when
I finally decided to jump intoit and get involved.
So it's typical, it's part ofthe Kool-Aid, it's what we've
been indoctrinated, it's what adoctor who's been trained, you
know five, 10 years or earlierwill say.
So most physicians, includingmyself.
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At the time I was saying, well,it's not really here yet it's
coming.
It's interesting.
But when you look at theliterature and most of the
literature, the medicalliterature comes from Europe and
Asia.
They have 15 and 20 yearfollow-up studies.
They've been doing this for twodecades with success.
So all the protocols that wefollow are founded in science
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and protocols that have beendone and proven and shown safe
and effective results.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Nice, okay.
So tell people like what wouldyou?
So if someone is just like onthis journey and they're like,
okay, I'm definitely interested,what would be the first step
for someone?
Obviously, we said you know, doyour research, but you know
where, where can people find youlearn more about re-celebrate.
What would be their, their nextstep in that process?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, no, I well.
I love to meet new people, sowe we do plenty of remote and
online Zoom consultations, justlike this we get to know people.
We go through their lives, youknow medical problems.
We go through their supplements, their diet, their sleep, their
exercise regimen.
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We try to help them, you know,take advantage of tips and
missing elements.
There we talk about hormoneoptimization, and for both men
and women and that could be forwomen even before menopause, and
men now in their thirties andforties are doing it.
So and we can talk aboutpeptides and other things that
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are sort of cutting edge andcontroversial.
They're only controversial, ofcourse, because of the
regulation that are imposed uponthem, but they're worthy of
discussion.
Peptides are small proteinfragments that can help our body
function, heal and do what itwas designed to do or used to do
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better.
For example, we've all heard ofozempic or semaglutide.
That's a peptide.
Right, we take melatonin atnight.
That's a peptide.
There are a lot of peptides, sothere are many more peptides
that are not sort of readilyavailable, however, but they can
be obtained, and then you knowif someone's a candidate, we'll
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discuss the options forgenerative medicine, whether it
be for a knee or a shoulder or atoe or what.
Have you a spine problem?
And if we can confirm thesource of the problem and match
it up with some really good MRIimages and correlate the pain to
the problem and the problem tothe pain, then we might offer
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something injectable for that.
Not everyone's a candidate.
I have more confidence intalking to some people about the
results I would want to seecompared to others based on
their MRI or how bad things are.
But most of the joint work iswe try to do in one injection.
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But if it's really bad and sixor 12 months later they're not
exactly where they want to be,we can look at it again.
That's not impossible and wejust invite people out to here,
to the office, which is inHenderson, nevada, outside Las
Vegas, when, when people arecandidates and want to make the
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trip and and we've had a lot ofpeople don't mind coming to
Vegas, spend the weekend, have adinner, see a show, and then
we'll take care of things here.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Well, thank you so much forcoming on and letting us know
about all this.
This is like really excitingstuff and I feel like it's just
going to grow like really fastand exponentially, hopefully,
because I feel like it's like wewere talking about before
non-invasive, natural.
Just such a great solution, Ithink, across the board.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So, thank you so much for filling us in my pleasure
and honor to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know about you guys, but I found that
incredibly interesting and I'mnot joking I absolutely will be
going to see him.
As a girl who doesn't do Botoxor fillers, I can absolutely get
on board with this and I reallydo think that, as far as the
longevity of the results, yeah,I'm sold.
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I'd rather do this, even if itcosts more upfront, than go and
do Botox every six months.
I'm not saying that doing Botoxis bad.
You do you.
It's just not for me.
So this seems kind of cool.
I'm definitely going to bechecking into it.
This seems kind of cool.
I'm definitely going to bechecking into it.
And you know, as, as somebodywho has had like incredibly bad
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knee pain and was told that youknow I needed surgery to just
see the results I had from PRP,I can only imagine the results
from stem cells.
So I am absolutely looking intothat.
For my thumbs, I don't knowabout you guys, but like my
thumbs and I know it's overusein addition to camera, because
I'm always holding the cameraright and it's heavy, I think
it's the phone and the computerBoth of my thumbs have just like
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just gone to hell basically inthe last probably year, year and
a half and they're gettingworse.
So I had spoken to my doctorabout that a little while ago
and even he was like, yeah, youneed to look into some stem
cells because that'll absolutelyfix it.
So, yes, sign me up.
Anyway, I hope this was reallyinsightful and interesting for
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you guys and I have all theinformation on how you can get
in touch with Dr Jeff below ifyou're interested in going to
see him or doing a consult onZoom.
So all of that is going to bethere for you guys and I look
forward to chatting with youguys, seeing you guys soon.
Have a great week, love you,bye.
Welcome to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo, where
we blend rock-solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
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We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
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So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
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Hey friends, welcome back toTried and True with a Dash of
(00:27):
Woo.
I'm your host, Renee Bowen.
Today I've got Dr Jeffrey Grosson the show and he is going to
talk to us all about stem cells.
This is something I haveactually been interested in for
a really long time, but now inthe last two years specifically,
and all of the updates and justthe technology and how amazing
(00:49):
this whole subject is really, Ihave kind of done a deep dive on
it, not only for myself and myhealth benefits, but for the
people in my family.
So I am really excited to chatwith him today.
You guys are going to reallyreally love this conversation.
If you've never heard of stemcell medicine or regenerative
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medicine, you're in for a treat,because he breaks it all down
for us.
Dr Jeffrey Gross is the founderof Recelebrate and a pioneer
and a pattern disruptor in thefield of regenerative medicine,
With a career dedicated totreating a myriad of chronic
health problems, Dr Gross is asought-after expert,
transforming thousands of livesby transitioning from
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traditional surgical methods tothe innovative use of stem cells
.
He is a neurosurgeon, so he hasbeen practicing medicine a very
long time, which I find isreally, really interesting.
I always love when medicalprofessionals are looking into
new and cutting edge things tohelp us live longer and better
lives.
Medicine and healthcare areseemingly advancing at the speed
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of light these days, and sometreatments are proving to be
real game changers, while otherscreate more confusion than
benefit and leave much to bedesired.
So at Recelebrate, Dr Grossoffers precise diagnosis and
treatment, revealing patients'stem cells healing power for
prolonged health.
These cells, when rejuvenated,display powerful anti-aging
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properties, offering relief andrejuvenation without the need
for surgery.
So in our chat, Dr Jeff sharesall these insights of the
holistic applications of stemcells in healthcare, showcasing
their potential in addinggenerational health to
generational wealth.
So let's dive in.
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Hey, Dr Jeff, thank you so muchfor joining us here today.
I'm really excited about thisconversation.
We're going to go deep intosome medical stuff, but I know
you're going to be able toexplain it really well for us.
So thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm very happy to be here.
It's great to talk to you andyour audience.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You got it.
So I want to just jump right inand kind of find out, like as a
how did your journey inmedicine lead you into this?
Longevity benefits of stemcells and all of that, because
that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Right.
Well, I was practicingtraditional medicine.
I'm a neurosurgeon with a spinespecialty.
I was taking care of neck andback pain, and I still do, for
the vast majority of my career.
But it was my patients, many ofthem, who were in that gap
between suffering some type ofneck and back pain where the
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less invasive treatments wereinadequate.
The injections, the therapies,the medicines, the time,
everything they tried justwasn't adequate to fully address
their problems.
But they didn't find themselvesand I agree with them bad
enough for surgery, which wasthe only thing left on the menu.
So they would come to me well,how about this?
(04:00):
How about that?
How about lasers?
How about crystals?
How about this?
How about stem cells?
And you know, my undergraduatebackground is in is in that type
of molecular biology, cellularbiology field, and I was sort of
Always wanting to get back intothat.
So it just kind of cametogether old, you know stodgy
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neurosurgery conferences.
I started going to stem cellconferences and taking
educational courses, continuingeducation, stem cell biology and
regenerative medicine, and Igot into it for the spine.
But I'm doing so much more nowand I feel like my career is
reinvigorated.
Every day is exciting anddifferent and I love it again.
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I have a renewed sense ofenthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's really cool and very important.
Obviously, you know like lovingwhat you do Because is it
because you're seeing suchawesome results from people with
this?
Is that they're having likelife changing results?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
In part, but it's seeing the results with you know
, no pharmaceuticals and theleast invasion and
non-surgically like I'll puttingthat all together it gives new
options for things and and andit's creating new projects for
me and my patients.
So we're working on all kindsof great projects and research
too.
Patients so we're working onall kinds of great projects and
(05:24):
research too.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That's very cool.
So, all right, Demystify thiswhole process, for, like those
of us like I definitely havebeen looking into stem cells for
a while.
So I mean, I'm by no means anexpert but, I, at least have a
little bit of knowledge, becauseI do think that it's
fascinating and I'm a bigproponent of trying to not go
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the pharmaceutical route ifpossible, even in terms of the
anti-aging or whatever quoteunquote anti-aging stuff.
I'm not a Botox girl.
I don't do fillers, stuff likethat.
I mean to each their own, it'sjust not my thing.
So I have definitely beenlooking into the whole stem
cells and I had knee problems soI was always looking into it
thing.
So I have definitely beenlooking into the whole stem
cells and I had knee problems soI was always looking into it
there.
(06:08):
But I know a lot of peopledon't really know a lot about
this yet.
So you know, let's kind ofmaybe demystify the science
behind harnessing your own stemcells for health.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Absolutely so, and stop me if I get too far into it
and we could take this inchunks.
But our bodies have stem cellsin them and when we're a fetus,
we're all stem cells.
You know, we're an embryo andthese stem cells are creating us
and they're developing intodifferent types of tissues and
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organs and limbs and everythingwe need.
And then when we're born, we'restill using those stem cells to
create us and when we're fullygrown, we still have stem cells
that we use to renew our tissues, that help us heal if we need
them, that renew our immunesystem.
I mean we have these banks ofcells that renew our immune
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system.
I mean we have these banks ofcells.
Well, as we age, or the reasonwhy we age is we're exposed to
the environment, the world, inwhat we eat, what we drink,
what's in our water, what we'remissing in our nutrition, and
our body is busy defendingagainst the world, and that's
called the inflammatory responseand that inflammation leads to
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aging, it leads to chronicdiseases and it affects our
cells and our stem cells and ourstem cells become less useful
in healing or preventingproblems and it's slower to heal
.
If you look at a three-year-oldwho scratches his knee on the
sidewalk and he cries.
Mom puts a Band-Aid on it,sends him on his way.
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A few days later that Band-Aidfalls off in the bathtub and the
scab is almost healed, whereasif you do that to a 75 or
80-year-old, that same injurywill take weeks to fully heal.
And the difference there iscellular, and particularly stem
cellular, activity.
So those stem cells have theability to renew, to divide, to
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create and replace tissues.
So when we talk aboutregenerative or stem cell
medicine, we're talking aboutleveraging that knowledge and
using it to our advantage toaccelerate healing or fight
diseases or help with thosekinds of things.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Nice and we can use our own stem cells, correct or,
like I know, there's varioustypes of stem cells.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You can use your own, but when you change the oil in
your car, you don't put the oilback in.
When you change the oil in yourcar, you don't put the oil back
in.
Now I say that funny.
There are many applications forusing your own stem cells and
there are benefits in theliterature.
Just, you know, in my view youknow, maybe oversimplified if
you're going to do this, ifyou're going to jump in and do
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this, why not use the best,youngest source?
And that comes from ethicallydonated placenta, umbilical cord
, amniotic fluid after a motherdelivers by C-section.
So we could take away thoseother myths out there regarding
this.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's really important.
I wanted to make sure, sure, wecovered that Fun fact back in
1998, when we had our first son,and it was literally just sort
of like.
I don't even remember where Igot the information, but I was a
massage therapist for a whileand I was definitely in the LA
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holistic scene in the 90s, so Imust have come across it at some
point where they said, well,you can, you know, you can store
the cord blood, you can do yourcord blood storage.
And back in 1998, that wasreally new, so it was really
inexpensive Like I think it onlycost us like $300 to get to
collect it.
And then we are locked in forlife at $50 a year at this lab.
(10:00):
So we still have his cord bloodfrozen in a lab.
So we still have his cord bloodfrozen in a lab.
And I'm like, okay, you know,not really sure what, but what
you know.
At that time they were sayingthis could cure cancer.
Like you could.
You know, god forbid, somethinghappens.
You never know.
You know when that would comein handy.
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And so I was like, well, maybewe should just do it.
So we do have it.
But I think that's really andit's interesting because that's
my son with autism.
So I've always thought like Iwonder if there's, you know,
because I know like there'sinflammation in the brain and
stuff like that and he'sdefinitely come a long way Like
he's he works, he has a job he's, you know he's great, but
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health wise I'm like that might.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
unfortunately, come in handy one day.
Yeah, I know the reason.
We did core blood storage yearsago.
You got a great price, by theway.
Yeah, the reason we did thatwas there was a new protocol for
treating childhood leukemiasblood-borne cancers and to do
that you have to just kill alltheir bone marrow and you have
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to completely replace it withwhat's called a bone marrow
transplant, which does have tobe a match, and we'll come back
to that concept in a second bankof hemopoietic stem cells,
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which is the type of tissue thatyou put in your bone marrow and
it creates your immune systemand then your blood cells and
that kind of thing.
And the easiest way to do thatis from your umbilical cord.
Now there are newer uses foryour own umbilical cord.
You can have your own stemcells.
There are labs now that will,you know, take some of those and
grow them in petri dishes todivide and expand them and give
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them back to you.
But you don't need to have amatch.
For most of regenerativemedicine.
You can have someone else's,because the immune system they
don't get identified as foreignbecause they haven't decided
what kind of cell to be yet.
So these stone cells areprotected or privileged, we
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should say.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's really interesting.
That's really really cool.
So where you're at with whatyou do at ReCelebrate, what do
you guys mainly use thistechnology for and what do you
see patients for?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
earlier, you know, to help my patients with spine
problems right Spinal pain anddidn't want surgery.
But it's blossomed into firstother musculoskeletal structures
and, like you said, you've hadPRP.
Prp is sort of a low levelregenerative medicine and then
you know there are a couplesteps above and we do those
steps and they could be stemcells or stem cell signaling
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factors, called exosomes, whichmaybe we'll get into in a little
bit, and the.
So we do a lot of joint workand but we also it's blossomed
into this whole you know cellhealth, cellular health or
cellular metabolism oranti-inflammatory sort of arena,
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which really overlaps withanti-aging medicine or longevity
medicine.
Because anything you do thathelps fight chronic inflammation
, the source of aging anddisease, most diseases, then
you're helping to live longerand live healthier, not just
longer but good years, healthy,quality years.
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So we're doing, you know, ivthings.
We also have sexual healthshots called P shots and O shots
, with these to help both themen and the ladies.
And then we also have somecosmetic things we do for skin
rejuvenation and for thinninghair, and I've had some of those
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back here on my scale as well,yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm 53, so that stuff is verytop of mind for me and I'm not
looking to do a lot ofintervention.
But if I were, that's the kindof stuff that I feel like would
make the biggest difference,Because it's not that invasive
and it's not, like you said,like super pharmaceutical right,
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Like so that no pharmaceutical.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All natural.
It's as natural as you can get.
It's a biologic right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I love that.
Yeah, I know when we were doingthe PRP for my knees my surgeon
was trying to get stem cellsbut insurance and stuff like
that.
So can you talk a little bit orspeak to a little bit about how
that sort of works?
I know that a lot of this isn'tobviously super covered by
insurance, at least not yet.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Maybe it'll change.
It may change.
There are a lot of politicaland economic influences from big
pharma and companies that makescrews and rods to put inside
the body.
Here's the way out.
Because none of the claims areyet approved, the insurance
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company says, well, we're notgoing to pay for it.
Right, it's all about what theysay you can say or they say you
can't say so.
So just to be upfront, you knowthe FDA has not approved any
claims, so I can't guaranteethat anything here will treat or
cure anything.
But as a physician, I've neverguaranteed, you can never
guarantee.
You know it's a practice, it'sa trial.
So, nonetheless, even PRP,which you've had maybe insurance
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helped pay for, is not approvedby the FDA for claims.
So you're right, there's alittle budge into what they will
approve because the insurancecompanies figured out that PRP
is potentially more effectiveand less expensive than jumping
to surgery.
Not that there's a role forsurgery for some folks, Of
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course there will always be thatbut they looked at the cost
savings because, at the end ofthe day, that's all they really
care about.
They looked at the cost savingsbecause, at the end of the day,
that's all they really careabout.
So insurance does not yet coverany of this unless you have
what's called an HSA plan orhealth savings account plan,
where you, as you should, beable to control the flow of your
health care dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Interesting, yeah, yeah, I do think that, like you
said, it's kind of ever-changingand we'll have to see kind of
how that goes.
But I do think it's fascinatingbecause a doctor that I know
has said that he has seen peoplelike literally just not need
anything else after this, andthat's the other part of it is
that it gets you better.
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So there's that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's.
You know Big Pharma doesn'tlove that.
We can't claim it.
But I have the same experienceas your friend because we have.
I'm amazed sometimes by thesimplicity and the results.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, that's what I've heard kind of across the
board, so that's reallyinteresting.
Is it a one size fits all sortof approach, Like when someone
comes to see you?
Obviously, you know, as adoctor I'm sure it's not just
like a hey, here's what we'regoing to do for you, and it's
just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
No, no, we really like to use what's called
precision medicine andindividualize the care.
Even even if you do end up withsomething that's the person
next to you ends up with.
You know, we want to make surethat the person is optimized in
their inflammatory state.
That means their diet is good,their sleep is good, their
nutritional gap meaningsupplements are ideal.
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Maybe hormone optimization isin place, because if we're going
to deliver these regenerativebiologics, we want the body and
the cells to be most receptiveso you get the best benefit.
So there's a lot of work to doahead of time, quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, Now I know you guys you're located in Las Vegas
, is that right?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
So I mean, I'm sure you getpeople who do visit you from
everywhere, but are you seeing,like if someone is interested in
this, let's just say, like ifsomeone listening is interested
in pursuing some sort ofregenerative medicine in this
way, whether it's for, like wewere talking about, joint
related stuff or anti-aging whatwould be their first step in
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finding someone and what shouldthey look for?
And like, vet the people whoare doing it, cause I know there
are going to be some peoplepopping up doing this and got to
make sure it's legit.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It's a great question .
So do your homework.
You know you can do this online.
Now the only caution there is alot of the places outside the U
?
S have been doing this longer,but they're not.
They don't have to be cautiouswith claims and you see a lot of
websites that say we curediabetes and things like that.
So just be cautious and do yourhomework and look at the
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different type of regenerativebiologics they have experience
with.
Is it PRP, is it stem cells?
And where do they get thosecells from?
That's important.
And do they expand those cells?
I'll come back to that if youwant.
And then the last regenerativeprobably the most advanced
regenerative biologic are calledexosomes, and exosomes are
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small not that cells aren't, buteven smaller grouped signaling
factors that are used forcell-to-cell communication, and
those end up being, at the endof the day, really what's doing
the work?
So we jump ahead and use.
Most of our patients receiveexosomes.
They travel further in the body, they penetrate tissue better,
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they last longer, they're easierto handle and they're half the
price of the cells oh, okay,talk to me about that and um,
and also, like you said, lastinglonger.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So, like, how long on average do you see them last?
Like, is this something youhave to continue doing?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
well, the goal with let's take a joint, because it's
probably our most popular thingto do A lot of knee problem,
people trying to avoid surgery,you see bone on bone,
osteoarthritis, wearing andtearing of the meniscus, that
kind of thing for a knee, forexample, so something like that
the goal is to do one injectionand be done, so there's an
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initial anti-inflammatorybenefit.
People have improvement in painand function right away, and
then it usually takes months forthem to see the cartilage begin
to restore.
And we do have really coolexamples of MRIs we've done
later just to see where thethickness of the cartilage is
improved, just to see where thethickness of the cartilage is
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improved.
So this is, you don't see, youdon't hear about this from your,
your neighborhood orthopedicdoctors.
And the problem is that and Iwas that guy right, I was.
I was trained in the 90s bypeople who were trained in the
60s and 70s and we were doingthe same thing that they were
doing, you know, 50, 60 yearsearlier, because not a lot moves
forward unless someone takes aleap or a jump.
So so when you find thesedoctors in your area who are
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doing regenerative medicine,make sure they have the full
experience where they've.
They've, they've done the oldstuff and they know the
difference between this newerbiology and they understand the
biology of it, between thisnewer biology and they
understand the biology of it.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, that's very important.
So, yeah, I definitely can seethe benefits there.
As far as you know cause I wasdefinitely in that place I was
nowhere, like my surgeon waslike you, you're too young for a
double knee replacement, butthat's exactly where you're
headed.
And you know my mom has badknees.
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I've got bad knees.
My mom did just have a doubleknee replacement, but she's a
lot older and I didn't want togo that route.
So I was like, okay, like whatelse can I do?
Like I just started looking atall of these different things.
So the PRP was like the one thatwas able to help me, just at
least get it, you know, sort ofunder control.
But stem cells are definitelyat the top of my list, like I
said.
I mean they have helped myknees tremendously.
Like the inflammation is likenight and day, and that was even
(22:25):
two years ago.
So that's good, because PRPdoesn't normally last and
sometimes it doesn't even take.
You know what I mean Because,like you said, it's like a low
level, not as robust as what youguys are doing.
So I definitely still wouldlike to do that.
I'm getting some arthritis inmy thumbs.
That's also on my list and I,like I said, let's talk a little
(22:45):
bit about the, the anti-agingstuff, because that to me and
and I think a lot of people inmy audience are going to find
that interesting as far as likeskin stuff, right, does it help
actually regrow collagen, likewhat does it do?
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It improves collagen production and elastin
production so you have bothstructure and elasticity.
It it also improves the skinhealth because it stimulates
your, you know, dermal cellsthat make the epidermis so it's
more, you know, hydrated skin,better looking skin, smoother
(23:23):
skin.
It helps fight against finelines and wrinkles and
pigmentation because healthy,you know, melanin producing
cells will be more uniform.
So you have more uniform skincolor.
And if for hair, it'llstimulate, if you have follicles
, it'll stimulate the follicularhealth as well.
(23:47):
We've seen this in somepatients the color of your hair,
because the follicle usuallyhas associated pigment cells,
melanin producing cells, and ifyou catch those and they haven't
died, they haven't gone intocomplete senescence, you can
help reduce the inflammation andimprove their function
(24:10):
basically.
So we can't take a bald personand grow hair with what we have
available to us.
We can't take a bald person andgrow hair with what we have
available to us.
Now there are new kinds of stemcells that are being worked on,
called induced pluripotent stemcells.
Those are too experimental forus to feel safe using them in
this setting, but they may beable to restore follicles.
(24:33):
So we have new things coming.
We're just we're justscratching the surface really.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That is really exciting.
That's very, very cool, like Iknow.
You know just like goingthrough menopause and stuff
definitely have gotten thinnerhair.
So you're saying that peoplewho like before, if you catch
the hair before it goes gray,you can actually stop it.
We've actually seen somereversal.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
To be honest, really, yeah, and I have to.
One of my favorite stories isone of our nurses here in the
office brought her father infrom out of town.
He was over 80, I believe, andhe was.
He was just sort of losing hisenergy.
So we did an anti-aging IV onhim and he had all kinds of
(25:17):
benefits and his gray hairstarted to turn black from the
IV just one IV.
All right One IV.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, well, you're only like three and a half hours
from me in Vegas, so I will becoming to see that doesn't
happen with everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
but it's amazing and it just shows you the power of
what or the damage thatinflammation is doing to us, and
the power of fighting thatinflammation.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, that is inflammation is so huge, like,
wow, that inflammation yeah,that is inflammation is so huge
Like wow, that's that's really Ididn't realize that stem cells
dealt with that.
Like I didn't realize that waspart of it.
And inflammation you hear thatall the time.
I mean that's definitely I hadbecause I have Hashimoto's.
So you know, if you have anautoimmune disease of any kind,
yeah, Deal.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So so you think about it.
Cells have two main programmingmodes.
They're either in defense mode,which is inflammatory because
it calls for the immune systemthat's the inflammation we're
always fighting against ourenvironment.
Or in autoimmune you have ahyperinflamed state that you
didn't ask for, that gottriggered.
Or you have this optimallyfunctioning mode, which involves
(26:27):
cell repair and involve it'santi-inflammatory right.
You're making antioxidants.
Most of our repair ourselves doat night.
So people that don't sleep asmuch have more inflammation or
don't sleep restoratively havemore inflammation.
So, as an example but you'reabsolutely right, we need to use
whatever we can to keepourselves away from the
(26:48):
inflammatory programming.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, it's huge.
I've just seen that I mean,like I've reduced my
inflammation so much in just thelast two years and it's made an
incredible impact on my health,like incredible.
So I I believed it before, butI've actually experienced it
across the board.
So, like, even just with dietyou know people listening like
(27:14):
there's a lot of ways you canreduce your inflammation as well
, but this I had no idea itreally actually did all of that
as well.
So, do you guys do?
I'm sure it's probably a wholearray of things.
But like, as far as like theaesthetics yeah, you have ivs,
obviously, but do you do likeinjections and facials and all
that kind of stuff too, or no,we're not we're not really like,
(27:35):
uh, in aesthetics, uh, uh, youknow, um, we don't do facials
and the kind of thing you getusual esthetician.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But we can do the medical side of it.
So we will do, uh, the microinjection, um, so we have a
micro injector, we numb the faceand we'll, we'll put exosomes,
uh, and some hyaluronic acidserum and inject the face and
wherever you need it, andsimilarly we inject the scalp
for the thinning hair, um, andthen the, the joint work is
(28:07):
actually done at an injectionfacility with a little sedation.
We do spine and joints thereand then everything else is IV,
which we can do in the office.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh, that's really cool.
Yeah, I didn't realize that itwas like that accessible, so
that's really good to know.
Okay, so what would you say topeople who are skeptics about
this?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, I was a skeptic until about six years ago when
I finally decided to jump intoit and get involved.
So it's typical, it's part ofthe Kool-Aid, it's what we've
been indoctrinated, it's what adoctor who's been trained, you
know five, 10 years or earlierwill say.
So most physicians, includingmyself.
(28:49):
At the time I was saying, well,it's not really here yet it's
coming.
It's interesting.
But when you look at theliterature and most of the
literature, the medicalliterature comes from Europe and
Asia.
They have 15 and 20 yearfollow-up studies.
They've been doing this for twodecades with success.
So all the protocols that wefollow are founded in science
(29:12):
and protocols that have beendone and proven and shown safe
and effective results.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Nice, okay.
So tell people like what wouldyou?
So if someone is just like onthis journey and they're like,
okay, I'm definitely interested,what would be the first step
for someone?
Obviously, we said you know, doyour research, but you know
where, where can people find youlearn more about re-celebrate.
What would be their, their nextstep in that process?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, no, I well.
I love to meet new people, sowe we do plenty of remote and
online Zoom consultations, justlike this we get to know people.
We go through their lives, youknow medical problems.
We go through their supplements, their diet, their sleep, their
exercise regimen.
(30:03):
We try to help them, you know,take advantage of tips and
missing elements.
There we talk about hormoneoptimization, and for both men
and women and that could be forwomen even before menopause, and
men now in their thirties andforties are doing it.
So and we can talk aboutpeptides and other things that
(30:26):
are sort of cutting edge andcontroversial.
They're only controversial, ofcourse, because of the
regulation that are imposed uponthem, but they're worthy of
discussion.
Peptides are small proteinfragments that can help our body
function, heal and do what itwas designed to do or used to do
(30:48):
better.
For example, we've all heard ofozempic or semaglutide.
That's a peptide.
Right, we take melatonin atnight.
That's a peptide.
There are a lot of peptides, sothere are many more peptides
that are not sort of readilyavailable, however, but they can
be obtained, and then you knowif someone's a candidate, we'll
(31:10):
discuss the options forgenerative medicine, whether it
be for a knee or a shoulder or atoe or what.
Have you a spine problem?
And if we can confirm thesource of the problem and match
it up with some really good MRIimages and correlate the pain to
the problem and the problem tothe pain, then we might offer
(31:31):
something injectable for that.
Not everyone's a candidate.
I have more confidence intalking to some people about the
results I would want to seecompared to others based on
their MRI or how bad things are.
But most of the joint work iswe try to do in one injection.
(31:51):
But if it's really bad and sixor 12 months later they're not
exactly where they want to be,we can look at it again.
That's not impossible and wejust invite people out to here,
to the office, which is inHenderson, nevada, outside Las
Vegas, when, when people arecandidates and want to make the
(32:13):
trip and and we've had a lot ofpeople don't mind coming to
Vegas, spend the weekend, have adinner, see a show, and then
we'll take care of things here.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Well, thank you so much forcoming on and letting us know
about all this.
This is like really excitingstuff and I feel like it's just
going to grow like really fastand exponentially, hopefully,
because I feel like it's like wewere talking about before
non-invasive, natural.
Just such a great solution, Ithink, across the board.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So, thank you so much for filling us in my pleasure
and honor to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know about you guys, but I found that
incredibly interesting and I'mnot joking I absolutely will be
going to see him.
As a girl who doesn't do Botoxor fillers, I can absolutely get
on board with this and I reallydo think that, as far as the
longevity of the results, yeah,I'm sold.
(33:10):
I'd rather do this, even if itcosts more upfront, than go and
do Botox every six months.
I'm not saying that doing Botoxis bad.
You do you.
It's just not for me.
So this seems kind of cool.
I'm definitely going to bechecking into it.
This seems kind of cool.
I'm definitely going to bechecking into it.
And you know, as, as somebodywho has had like incredibly bad
(33:34):
knee pain and was told that youknow I needed surgery to just
see the results I had from PRP,I can only imagine the results
from stem cells.
So I am absolutely looking intothat.
For my thumbs, I don't knowabout you guys, but like my
thumbs and I know it's overusein addition to camera, because
I'm always holding the cameraright and it's heavy, I think
it's the phone and the computerBoth of my thumbs have just like
(33:56):
just gone to hell basically inthe last probably year, year and
a half and they're gettingworse.
So I had spoken to my doctorabout that a little while ago
and even he was like, yeah, youneed to look into some stem
cells because that'll absolutelyfix it.
So, yes, sign me up.
Anyway, I hope this was reallyinsightful and interesting for
(34:17):
you guys and I have all theinformation on how you can get
in touch with Dr Jeff below ifyou're interested in going to
see him or doing a consult onZoom.
So all of that is going to bethere for you guys and I look
forward to chatting with youguys, seeing you guys soon.
Have a great week, love you,bye.
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