Ep #52:Unpacking Irreverence: Insights into Names, Sports, and Life Lessons

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How much weight does a name carry? In this episode, we engage in meaningful discussions that connect life, laughter, and the memories tied to names. We start with Kline's sick sense of death humor. Don't give him an "Flack" for this.

Through stories and reflections, we dive deep into how names can shape identities and experiences, revealing the humorous yet heartbreaking tales associated with unique names – like that of the child named Unikite 13 Hotel whose story raises important questions about societal norms. 

We then transition into the realm of sports, reminiscing about personal experiences with legendary athletes such as Wayne Gretzky. These memories forge connections that transcend time, leading to thought-provoking conversations about the ethics in sports, including scandals of point shaving that mar the integrity of young athletes' dreams. 

The episode takes an exhilarating turn as we explore the thrilling world of extreme sports. From the origins of base jumping to the psychological elements woven into competitive play, listeners are left craving an adventure of their own. The discussion embodies the spirit of pursuing passions, motivating listeners to embrace life with authenticity. 

We invite you to listen and join us on this journey, where humor meets reality, and stories unfold that resonate deeply.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Tuttle Cline Show.
Tuttle Cline.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tuttle.
What's going on?
Is that you on my screen?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yes, it is.
Yoda, Yoda it is.
You didn't start with a songman I don't want to be too
predictable well, that's notpredictable, because you always
switch up the song yeah, I justI don't want to be too true.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I mean it's like I was.
I've been looking at our uhvideo of our podcasts on youtube
uh-huh and, uh, I'm like theconsecutive days of wearing
black shirts, you know.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
What brand is that that you got on there?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I don't know Some kind of Amazon shit or skin
Doctors, doctor skin, I thinkdoctor skin oh doctor, skin.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Ok, it looked like or skin to me and I'm like boy.
You put an F in front of that.
It's a whole different meaning.
Or skin, what do you want,foreskin?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Exactly, Of course.
What are you wearing?
If you're not wearing foreskin,what's your problem?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
This kind of brings up something that I just thought
of before.
We connected okay.
So you know, roberta Flack died, right.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, I did not know yeah, 88 years old.
She was killed softly by als ohman, what I see what you did
there yeah, killing me softlywith his song was her greatest
hit yeah, I see what you didthere, calf.
When did she die Yesterday?
Oh man, that sucks.

(01:44):
What too soon.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's never too soon, Exactly.
So here's my thing Lou Gehrig'sdisease, ALS.
That was named after Lou Gehrigbecause he had it, okay, and of
all the things to have namedafter you, a disease that kills,
okay.
But it got me wondering.
All right, do you think there'sany Irishman named Pete Ophile?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean you got to immediately ditch that name you
do you have to.
Yeah, I mean, you gotta be likeI.
I don't know what you'rethinking there, dad.
You didn't think this onethrough, did you Dad?
By the likes of the BlarneyStone, I gotta say, dad, pull up

(02:36):
a Guinness here.
Let me talk to you.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's a good brogue.
You got there, buddy.
I'm getting killed at work here.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Huh, I'm getting killed.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Got a restraining order by all the elementary
schools.
What the hell why?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
What are you doing there, daddy Connor McGregor?
He's going to kick my ass here,right?
I don't know, is that any good?
It's been a while since I'vedone an Irish accent.
No, that was really good.
Really good I spent a whilesince I've done an Irish accent.
No, that was really good,really good.
Well, that's awesome because Ihave 1.2% of Irish lineage there

(03:12):
?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, because you did your Ancestrycom and all that
DNA kind of stuff, right?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, and I learned something recently because
Audrey did too she leans moreheavy German than I do, really,
yeah, and I was like wait aminute, this shit's not adding
up here.
I mean the math isn't right.
And then I learned somethingthat different siblings have

(03:42):
different numbers.
No kidding, yes, it's not allexactly the same.
You know, I lean more.
My heritage leans heavy British.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, Heavy English Tuthill yes.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Heavy English, wales, scotland.
I mean I'm heavy on that Not asmuch you know.
Wales, scotland.
I mean I'm heavy on that Not asmuch of my mom's German side.
But you know, that wouldn'tnecessarily be true for Todd and
Tina and Terry.
They may have differentmixtures.
They may have gotten heavy,more heavy on the German.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So I mean, that's certainly possible.
Not, and not every sibling hasthe exact percent mix.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That is really really interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
At least that's what.
That's what Audrey was tellingme, probably to avoid that
awkwardness.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now, Audrey's too pure.
She ain't going to lie aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, no, and it is I double.
Of course, I fucking doublecheck.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, absolutely so.
How much Scandinavian do theyhave?
Do you know oh?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
yeah, there's a ton.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
A ton of the Sweden.
I mean you can just look atAudrey and Jonas and tell, right
, yeah, I mean there's a ton,but she has more German.
I mean she is majority German,56% German, wow, and I'm not
majority anything.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, you're pretty evenly split right.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, yeah, but it's split among the kingdom.
Yeah, I mean it's like 26%German, there's a little bit of
Swedish in there and then therest of it is English.
Know, is English, you know it'sIrish, it's Wales, it's
Scottish.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You know sure, yeah, a wee bit of Scottish because
they don't like them all jammedtogether.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know you, the last thing you want to do is
tell, like a Scottish person hey, I'm just like you.
Look at my ancestry and it'slike Irish and Wales.
No, you're not, no, no, you'renot, no, laddie, you're not.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
All of a sudden, they're fighting you with a
bunch of horses.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Put them up there, laddie.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Painting their faces blue.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Hey, Ian, we got ourselves a cockney here that
thinks he's one of us.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So stupid.
Whoever determined that thatwas the greatest boxing stance?
With your fist backwards?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
There's two.
You know I gotta tell you, andyou know this of me, I was a
little bit of a pugilist.
You know you get to be, youknow, 10, 11, 12 years old, up
to about 22, 23.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It was a prolific career.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, you know, you get yourself into these little
brawls, these little spats, ifyou will, and there's a couple
of ones of note, including a guythat squared off with me.
Like that, Describe Kev.

(06:54):
For those not watching onYouTube, they're listening on
the platform.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, it's the early boxing stance by John L Sullivan
.
It's, you know, one hand isforward, but the back of your
fist is showing instead of theknuckle part of your fist.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, so yeah, that, uh, yeah, unfortunately for for
for that, and I guessfortunately is.
I was laughing too hard at that.
I thought he was kidding, Ithought it was a joke.
I was just laughing and he'slike ah, come on, let's go.
Come on, I don't remember if hehad an Irish accent and I'm

(07:32):
just inserting it.
That seems to be the themeright now.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, well, anybody that holds their fist like that,
that's what they have.
Yeah, that's universallydetermined.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
But I was just like what dude?
No, no man, you know, I don'tknow what you're doing.
Man, come on.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
He was trying to diffuse the situation.
He subscribed to the Tim Tuttlething and if he can't fight,
make him laugh.
Oh it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Everybody around was.
You know, you know that, youknow that that that thing is
when you get in a fight, all ofa sudden hey, it's on, it's on.
Everybody starts gatheringaround, sure, and as soon as
everybody's gathering around,he's like I'm like I can't hit a
dude.
That is this fucked up in thehead.
I can't.
Yeah, and he knew it.

(08:18):
Yeah, he's like yeah, dude,I'll buy you a beer, let's go.
The second unusual one I thinkit was, I want to say probably
sixth or seventh grade, andthere was a guy in our class.
His name was Mario Gennaro.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I've heard of Mario Gennaro.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, he was actually related to the Milwaukee
Ballesteros, which are the mobLa Familia.
La Familia Well known forgetting rid of people via car
bombing.
They invented the car bombing.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Wow, that's something to have your hat on, exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Exactly.
Hey, let me tell you, we didn'tdo real good with the numbers,
we weren't real good with theprostitution and, hey, we could
have done better with, you know,the bribing and shit like that.
But the thing we nailed, wewere good at bombing and that

(09:25):
was a big revenue.
When, when other familiesthroughout the nation because
they're all, they were allconnected cav the coast of, the
coast of ostro, they were allconnected.
Yeah, when they wanted somebodybombed out, they called
milwaukee and milwaukee wouldsaid this guy okay, no problem,
hoboken, new jersey, all right,what's this fucking moley look

(09:48):
like you know, I know exactlywhat you're talking about yeah,
yeah, but mario genero, um, he,uh, he decided that, uh, he was
gonna get a little squirrely oneday.
I, I think we were playing foursquares or kickball or something

(10:09):
like that, and you know, likesix and six and seventh grade in
the early 80s cab, you remember, of course, we loved our four
square, we did yeah do they evenplay that now?
No, do they play kickball?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
There's actually a professional kickball league.
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I love kickball.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
But anyway, we were having one of those playground
recess disputes or whatever, andyou know he was trying to get
in my face about some kind ofcall or something.
I just pushed him.
I said Mark, get the fuck awayfrom me Now.
I did that when I did notrealize not realize, kev, that
he was connected at that pointit was shortly thereafter that I

(10:49):
learned that mario wasconnected.
Otherwise I probably would havehandled it a little differently.
A little bit, because everybodyin milwaukee, we knew about the
balistrier balistreries uh-huh,you don't fuck with balustrades
, correct?
Um, anyway, uh, uh he, hesquares off with me after I push

(11:10):
him.
You know doesn't do the badthing.
But you know, what he decidedto do was take swings at me and
add his own sound effects that'show I know, mario genero.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's it.
You remember this story?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
of course I do yeah, he was going biff and kapow, you
know, just like batman when ontv when we were kids yeah, zap
boom again, again, kev,everybody around you know,
because they gathered aroundfrom from the kickball teams.
They gathered around because,like, oh here goes tuttle again

(11:44):
again, and they heard him doingthat.
Everybody just started crackingup, of course, and he even
started laughing too, because hedidn't realize he was doing it.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's funny, yeah, but I mean, how would you not
want to fight Mario Gennaroevery day?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh my God, you know well the thing is and I didn't
learn it is he didn't fightMario Gennaro every day because
his uncle is a balustrade Right.
And again, had I known that Iwould never have done If he had
a problem with the kickball, I'dbe like, hey, you're right, man

(12:22):
, I was out Anything.
You want, Mario?
That's right.
I want my dad to be able toturn his ignition in his car and
it not blow up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Exactly what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, my dad with his griswold station wagon wood
panel.
I was thinking, yeah, my dadwith his griswold station wagon
wood panel.
I'd hate to see that because Igot in a dispute with you know,
one of the son of the disciplesor whatever, that my dad was no
longer allowed to live.
No, I was like, yeah, from thatpoint on, mario was much more
palatable to me.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Of course, he was, of course, yeah.
So Anyway, what was Of?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
course, yeah.
So anyway, what the hell werewe doing?
Okay, he just got into RobertaFlack.
Why don't you just continuewith think, as you heard right
there, I have.
No, I had no idea who died.
I don't know who dies anymoreand maybe that can get that.
You can do that when you leadwith the things that I didn't
like know or hear about over thepast week, because I'm off the

(13:26):
grid right now and I just don'twatch news.
I don't comb through socialmedia, I'm just doing my own
thing in my own pocket in theworld.
Uh, roberta Flack died.
Anytime somebody else dies, letme know, because I I found out
one I can't remember what it is.
A few weeks ago I had no ideathat they passed away none oh,
oh.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Al Troutwig died the other day too.
Remember Al Troutwig, the greatsports commentator.
Did Ironman triathlons, did theOlympics a few years.
Brilliant, brilliantbroadcaster.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
No, no, I did not.
Who else has died recently offthe top of your head, Kev,
Celebrity-wise, I can't, youknow.
There was one that was like man.
I wish I'd have known when thathappened, but it happened like
weeks or months ago or whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm having a difficult time remembering
anybody from earlier this year.
I know there are some, but Ican't remember Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Just kind of have that on your to-do list.
I need to know if, like peoplethat we grew up and had an
effect on us pop culture-wise, Ineed to know if they died so I
could give the memory the memorything.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah absolutely.
We want to do that.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So what's happening in the world?
I don't know if you're going tocover this or not, but I just
want to say there's one currentevent thing that I really dug.
What is it that NHL four nationshit was?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
awesome.
Yeah, beats any all-star gamethat they ever, anybody could
ever put forth.
You know, that was what tookplace in of the all-star game.
They didn't have an all-stargame, they did that instead.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
That is the way to do it.
I, that is the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I don't know again nba and nbas was around the same
time too, and that was horrific.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I mean, that was god awful.
And the nfl's pro bowl is afucking joke too.
I mean nba and nfl you got,even if you have to shut shit
down for a week, like they diddo, do something like that
because that kev.
I'm watching NHL games now.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that was the bestadvertising the NHL could have

(15:31):
done.
Yeah, yep, the, the, the fournations.
I love that and I love the.
The final was a USA versusCanada.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Correct At the TD garden in Boston.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
They beat us in overtime yeah.
However, we will get the lastCorrect At TD Garden in Boston.
They beat us in overtime, yeah.
However, we will get the lastlaugh when Canada becomes our
51st state.
Well you know they're callingus their 11th province.
Now, I like that, I like thatGo ahead.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We had the interesting.
So the college hockey team thatI'm the public address
announcer for Drury University,the coach rented out a theater,
you know, like a like a movietheater, and we watched it.
We watched it as a team, withall the players, all the
coaching staff, trish me and acouple of the other volunteers,
and there's 22 Canadians on theteam and four Americans, and the
four Americans sat together upin the top and the 22 Canadians

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sat together down at the bottomand it was.
It was amazing to watch thoseCanadians just burst with pride
and enthusiasm when ConnorMcDavid scored that game winner.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's.
That was pretty huge.
I mean, you know, again, whenyou're talking about Canada, you
know there are cute littlebrothers who will eventually be
our 51st date, who, once youlike you know, make them a part
of our talent pool.
We will dominate internationalcompetition till the end of time

(17:00):
, but we beat them two nightsbefore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and there were three fights in the first nine
seconds of the game.
The Kachuk brothers were two ofthem that fought.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, I like that the Kachuk brothers were
like no, you can't boo ournational anthem, sorry.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, and they also did that because they wanted to
set the tone that they were notgoing to back down.
And so they actually set thatup, that they were going to go
out there and fight in the first10 seconds of the game, because
they wanted to set the tonethat hey, we're in your face.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I like that.
I.
There's all kinds of.
There's all kinds of uh, uh,mind stuff happening in hockey
games.
Indeed All kinds ofpsychological shit.
Uh, you know, that's why I kindof miss the, the goons.
To be honest with you, I missthem.
Oh, they're coming back, oh good, good you gotta, you gotta,
protect these, these, uh, theselittle gnats and flies that are

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making all the moves and scoringand everything I mean you.
You knew never to fuck withgretzky, because you would get
your ass kicked yeah, oh yeah,marty mcsorley was going to take
care of you oh yeah, and youknow some of the other goons
like probst and uh teo manti,what is that?
No, what is it?
Oh ty, domey ty domey, now, hewas a little guy dude, he was a

(18:17):
little guy he threw down he,just he.
Well, he got man, he he would.
He would wrap the jersey, uh,and that's hard to do when you
got a shorter guy.
He would wrap the jersey andthen he would punch up.
And that's hard, man.
He would get in there wheresome bigger guys would be away
from you and they can't get inthere.
Yeah, yeah so yeah, he had agreat technique.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, check out the New York Rangers.
There's a kid.
He's in his second season.
His name is Matt Rempe.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
R-E-M-P-E and in his first five games I want to say
he had six fights.
I like it, man.
I mean, you know, I know theytried to clean up hockey, but
you got to have that elementthere.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
You know, every so often the fans like when the
gloves drop, they like that itserves a purpose, and the
purpose is if your team is downand you need to infuse some
electricity with your team,that's one of the easiest and
fastest ways to do it is getinto a fight, ok.
Another thing is it tells youthat, hey, you know what?
We're not backing down from you.

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We might be at a disadvantagewith the amount of goal scoring
we have.
We're not going to back downfrom you.
And yes, it is, it's a crowdpleaser.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, and the most important thing is, you got to
protect the goal scorers.
You have to, and most of thosedudes are tell me if I'm wrong
Kev 30, 40, 50 pounds lighterthan average hockey players on
the ice.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, they're faster skaters but they are usually
smaller in stature, which I wastalking to our coaches last
night during the coaching showthat we recorded, and I asked
about Alex Ovechkin, becauseOvechkin is 13 goals away from
becoming the all-time leadingscorer in NHL history, beating
Wayne Gretzky's number.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
And.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I asked.
I said you know who's better,Ovechkin or Gretzky?
And the coaches both said youcan't compare, because Gretzky
was slighter in stature andOvechkin's a different player
because he's bigger and he doesassert his physical dominance.
I'm like, so wouldn't that makehim better?
Because he would be anall-around player.
He goes in there, he hammerspeople and he scores goals.
And they said it's just adifferent NHL.

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Now you know, the size is waydifferent too.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, you know, Kev, I was looking at around Super
Bowl time the starting offensivelines of the Philadelphia
Eagles versus the Green BayPackers 1967 Super Bowl one they
had that stat yeah, isn't thatlike 100 pounds difference?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's crazy, kev.
Oh, it's nuts.
You know, I've lost, I've lost,I've tightened up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I't that like a hundred pounds difference.
It's crazy.
Oh it's nuts.
You know I've, I've lost, I'velost.
I've tightened up a little bit,I've leaned out a little bit.
You know, when I, when I was inmy two, 25 to 30, I could have
played a guard for that greenBay Packer team.
Yes, you could have.
Yeah, you know.
I six, two, two, 30.
I could have been an offensiveguard in the NFL around the time

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I was born.
6'2", 230, you're a smalllinebacker now.
Oh, kevin, I'm a decent-sizedsafety Uh-huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Free safety, yeah, so , and it's the speed at which
they're playing too.
Yeah, those big guys infootball and in hockey.
Holy smokes.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
The way they move.
I mean, it is a completelydifferent ballgame.
But when you get a guy likeGretzky, he's one of those dudes
, just like Jordan.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
They're those type of dudes that would figure out a
way to dominate somehow.
Well, Gretzky was famous forthe line I don't go where the
puck is, I go where the puck'sgoing to be.
That was a revolutionarystatement at the time.
You know, yeah, so, yeah, thatthat's what set him apart was he
didn't go where the puck was.
He was going where the puck wasgoing to be and nobody's there
except wayne gretzky it's.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's funny, because that's the same thing, the good
quarterbacks that they do whenthey're in the passing game.
It's like I'm gonna throw theball where you should be.
Uh-huh, yeah, you know that,you know you, you should be
there.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
If you aren't there, you didn't get your separation
and that's on you right, yeah,well, if you throw on the ball
to where a guy is, they're notgoing to be there when that ball
arrives.
Nope, it's called pick six baby.
That, hey, I know we're talkingabout the different things that
, uh, that you know havehappened and I'd like to get
back to that.
But, um, we're talking aboutWayne Gretzky, and that leads me

(22:32):
to my top three for you, justwhen you thought they couldn't
count any higher.
It's Tuttle and Klein's topthree, top three greatest
athletes that you saw live.
You were in the stadium or inthe arena.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You saw them live uh, you know, cam, the first thing
that pops into mind and I knowthis, is you tell me if I'm out
of line here.
Um, you know, because you knowmy, my upbringing.
Uh, in terms of auto racing, ifyou don't mind, I would like to
tell you a few race car driversthat noticeably you could see,

(23:07):
even from the stands, like aways away, that they were better
, more aggressive, took moreaggressive lines and were just
better racers.
Can I start there?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It is your top three.
My brother, Do whatever youwant.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, kev Nigel Mansell, I loved him.
That guy you could tell was ona different level.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
British guy, wasn't he?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
British guy, and you know just one of those guys, you
could visibly see it DaleEarnhardt, senior, senior.
Yeah senior, I mean dale jr wasokay, yeah, but, but his dad
was just a different kind ofanimal yes and the same with, uh

(23:52):
, jeff gordon.
You could just look at jeffgordon, notice he's doing shit.
That's different, uh-huh.
But but the best of all Kev, itwas Rick Mears.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Rick Mears.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Like when I was a kid , you know from the late 70s, I
think he won his first one in 79.
Kev will put it right here hewon one in 79.
That was his first one and Iwas there for that one.
I was 10 years old.
He won four.
Did he win four?
He won four.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
He won four.
He won four.
He won one in 79, a couple inthe 80s and then I think he won
one in the 90s Again.
Kev will have all his years ofwinning right here posted, or
even if you were just watchingclosely on the ABC telecast, you
notice he is aggressive and,yes, he had the Penske machinery

(24:51):
, but he is aggressive.
He takes a different line andhe jukes and fakes the other
guys like you really don't seetoo often.
Okay, so Rick Mears incredibleto watch in person.
I love this, which is thereason why I acted like a
schoolgirl when I saw him inHouston before the Grand Prix
about what?
10 years ago?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Hey, how lucky do you think we are that we got to see
Elio live.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Elio Castaner was great.
That was so cool, yeah, yeah.
And we also hung out with gosh,I forget his name.
The guy with the nose, oh, tony, tony, I love Tony.
Yeah, yeah.
And we also hung out with gosh,I forget his name, the guy with
the nose.
Oh, tony Kanaan, tony Kanaan, Ilove Tony Kanaan.
Yeah, yeah.
And then Dale Jr was there.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
But I mean getting to actually see them live and
performing.
I mean, at the time we saw Elio, he was the greatest driver on
the planet.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, when he did the Spider-Man.
Yeah, that was great.
That was great.
That race started off with mybrother flying over the uh the
the helicopters in the Blackhawkhelicopter before, which was
awesome, and then ended withElio climbing up on the fence.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, dude, I was balling when Todd flew over,
wasn't that awesome?
Oh my God, man flew over,wasn't that awesome?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Oh, my God man.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's emotional, even if you don't
know one of the pilots justflying down the front stretch.
But man, to know that you knowmy radio partner's brother's up
there.
Yeah, that was pretty badass.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And I remember because you were a little ways
away from me, so I was sittingnext to some strangers and
during it I was like that's mybrother up there in the
helicopter.
I was a little buzzed and theguy's like sure it is no.
No way, man, you can't.
You can't tell this guy.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Tell him yeah well, I couldn't because I was crying.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
He's crying.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
He's crying God dang it.
Yeah, that was cool.
Yeah, that was cool, all right.
All right, let's go.
Let's get back into the um.
I'm trying to think live sports.
I um, I saw in the 2022 season,just before the astros won the
world series, I saw alvarez getthree home runs in one game.

(27:01):
I was at that game.
That's amazing.
I thought that was awesome.
That was impressive to me.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Hey, what's Houston's attitude about Bregman leaving?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's pretty quiet, is it Okay?
But then again, kev, I'm offthe grid, yeah, so I don't know,
I don't know, but you know, nowhe's with the Boston Red Sox,
so he's our mortal enemy.
Fuck him.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Right, yeah, but yeah , I mean the Astros moved on.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
They moved on.
You know what are you going todo?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, but I thought they made a pretty decent offer
to him, so I don't know what theproblem was.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
No, exactly.
So which is why, hey, fuck them.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know, go to Boston, that's goal.
You know, go languish in Boston, watch Kev.
They'll win the whole thing.
Yeah right, oh no, it'simpossible for anybody to beat
the Yankees or the Dodgers.
They're the greatest.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Uh-huh, yeah, I fucking hate those fuckers.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
So, alvarez, the three run game.
That was amazing.
That was amazing.
Kev um, I watched vince carter,oh yeah nba player nba player.
I got the opportunity to watchhim uh in an orlando magic game
toronto rapper raptors back inhis rookie season or second year
or something like that.
And Jesus, that dude isunbelievable.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I saw him get a couple of breakaway dunks and I
was like, wow, that was cool,nice.
Yeah, I was there with PeytonManning 50th touchdown back in
04.
Oh cool, I was there for that.
I was there for that.
I was there for that.
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
No, Robin Yount.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Oh, kev, robin Yount was awesome to watch in person.
I mean, particularly that 1982season was amazing.
You know I loved it and, kev, Ieven liked watching Pete
Vukovic pitch.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Greatest stash.
He and Raleigh Fingers had agreat stash.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Oh, he had the Fu Manchu man.
Yeah, yeah, he just the funnything, kev, because I'm a little
kid, I'm young, then I'm just ayoung kid.
When we got Vukovic, theBrewers got Vukovic and I saw
him outside of County Stadium.
You know you could wait outsideand watch them come through the
doors.
He was the scariest lookingdude.

(29:30):
Yeah, I mean, he frightenedpeople, but he was the nicest
guy Anybody that had the ballsto go up and actually talk to
him, because he just looksmenacing.
Right, and maybe it's becauseI'm a kid, you know, but he just
looked menacing, looks scary,it looked like don't bother this
guy.
But you know, if you did walkup to him and you know, not as

(29:52):
many walked up to him as molitorand you know, and cecil cooper,
gorman thomas, always had afollowing, you know the big,
lovable, uh, teddy bear, gorman.
But if you walked up to vukoviche would talk to you, man, he
would and joke around with youand, you know, pat you on the
head and hit on your mom and tryto fuck her.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, vuk was all right.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, vuk was all right, nice.
But yeah, the only real dick Iremember was the Indiana Pacers
had a player named Dale Davisand I saw him at a bar in
Indianapolis and I said, ah man,good to meet you, buddy Big fan

(30:40):
.
And he just looked at me likeyou're a fucking piece of shit,
oh wow.
And I was just like no, good tomeet you, buddy Big fan.
And he just looked at me likeyou're a fucking piece of shit,
oh wow.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
And I was just like no, fuck you.
Yeah, dude, I'm the guy thatgoes to your games and pays your
salary.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I've just and Kevin, and whenever he faltered,
I was just like you got itcoming, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Dude, that's another great athlete.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You got to see miller reggie miller was fun man I.
I saw him when he drained likeseven, three pointers and two
quarters man.
I mean he was just he.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
He got hot, it was over I know you're gonna say
jordan, but for my money, if theball game's on the line, I'm
giving the ball to reggie millerthat dude, he could hit clutch
all day I never saw michaeljordan in person yeah, I never
did either.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Never watched him in person I, I, I always put it off
, I always put it off like I'llget him next year, and it just
never happened.
Yeah, that's one regret I have,of course, is is not seeing him
.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
But who do you?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
got.
Who are your top three?
My three are uh, barry sandersyep, yeah, you saw him oklahoma
state when he was a cowboy.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
When he won the Heisman.
Yeah, that was my freshman year.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Man, that was an unbelievable season.
He had like 2,200 yards orsomething like that, from minus
scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, I want to say he had five games, or six games
of 300 plus yards in a game.
That's just crazy.
Yeah, it was nuts.
That's crazy, gretzky.
When I was a sophomore in highschool, I saw the Edmonton
Oilers play the St Louis Bluesand Gretzky tapped his stick at
me on the glass.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, can I?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
tell you this Please do.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
You can look this up if you don't believe me.
Before he went to the NHL, heplayed for the Indianapolis
Racers as a 17-year-old, Ibelieve it.
Look it up and double-check it,okay, and we used to do ice
skating.
We used to have ice skatingsessions and everything like

(32:32):
that, and there was a time we'dget done and then the racers
come out and they have topractice and at that time he had
a little mullet going on andeverything like that.
And at that time he had alittle mullet going on and
everything like that.
And I remember that we wouldgather around because we'd watch
him do drills and we justcouldn't believe how fluid he
was, how quick he was and thefact that he was 17 years old.

(32:57):
Yeah, and I remember somebodysaying in the background
background saying see that guyright there.
He will one day be the bestthere ever was.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, he's called the greatest.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And everybody like looked, was chuckling.
He's seven, he's a seven, he's17 years old and look at him.
He looks so skinny and youngand everything like that.
He's going to get his asskicked by these monsters up in
the NHL.
You know people were thinkingthat yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
No, it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
But yeah, gretzky, that was cool, I just saw him in
practice.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Okay, well, you got to see him.
You got to see him beforeanybody knew man, that's awesome
At 17.
Yeah, that's super cool.
And then I kind of have a tossup.
I don't know if it would beItchero or Kobe.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Ooh, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
When did you see Itchero?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, when he played for the Yankees at Minute Maid
against the Astros.
How did he do that game?
Oh, how didn't he do it wasamazing.
He made the greatest throw I'veever seen.
You can say that Dave Parkerthrow in the All-Star game was
number one.
I'm going to say that's numbertwo now, from what I saw Itchero
do.
He threw a BB from the base ofTowles Hill to home plate and

(34:09):
threw out somebody tagging upfrom third.
It was a rope that he threwfrom that far away in center
field.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Better than Bo Jackson, Harold Miner.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yep, I know, dude, I know we're splitting hairs, but
I mean it.
I saw it live.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
it was a moat, it was amazing that is cool that you
saw it live yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
The bottom line is we have been very, very lucky in
our life to see some greatathletes, professional athletes,
live yes, speaking of which kevI would you know?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
you know how I am.
I I like to look up, uh, youknow uh, air disasters.
It's a thing of mine.
Is that a rabbit hole?
Well, not really, because itwas just the Kobe one.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So unfortunate what happened right there at the
helicopter crash.
It was a guy that was just areally, really good pilot and I
think because initially it cameout that Kobe they're saying
Kobe probably may have pressuredhim to get to the basketball
tournament quick, but that's notthe case at all Every pilot has

(35:10):
said Kobe has never saidanything.
He has always said let us doour job, get us there safely of
kobe's and, uh, you knowsomebody that that, that, uh, he
wanted to impress.
He wanted to impress kobe somuch that he just he got caught
in some fog and he got that,that, that spatial thing where

(35:32):
he didn't know up, up from down,didn't realize he was banking
left, thought he was rising andhe's banking left straight into
a hill at 160 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Man dang, yeah, yeah that's gonna leave a mark yeah,
that's too.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Hey, did you know, did you?
Yeah?
And again, for those of you whoare a little, uh, sensitive, uh
, you know you might want totune away just for a minute or
so, but you do.
You know that.
Uh, it, it.
They found kobe in pieces.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, okay you knew that.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, I thought some of him was burned well, yeah,
and, and let you know, they,they, when they had the autopsy,
it's like they had to put a leghere, a leg there and you know
his brain.
They couldn't find his brainreally I didn't know that yeah,
yeah, yeah I don't know whyCause that part of that rabbit
hole is.
I was looking in the autopsystuff and I probably shouldn't

(36:27):
have.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, that's 160 miles an hour into a brick wall.
Yeah, that's, that's someimpact.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
None of them felt I was going to say.
That's the saving grace hedidn't feel it.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
No, but they they didn't even know because it was
zero visibility.
Kev.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I mean it was zero visibility.
I mean, one minute, you're liketalking and goofing around with
Joe and everything like that,because Joe Altobelli was in
there too.
You're goofing around and thenext thing you know it's just
over.
Yep, you know, you're doing theheaven float going.
What the fuck happened there?

(37:05):
Yeah, nice wings, joe, wait aminute.
What's going on here?
Oh shit, man, I hate, I knewthat fog was a little thick.
Yeah, um, anyway, kev, whatelse, what?
What else is happening in theworld that I need to know about
anything?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to talk to you because we
started the program with uh,talking about, uh, you know, odd
names.
Uh, here's a guy in Nebraska.
He, he has his own daughter.
She's two years old and shecan't get a social security card
or a an actual birthcertificate because the mom,
when she gave birth it was ahome birth and she immediately

(37:46):
gave it to a foster family inNebraska and they had the
hospital spit out a computername for this girl.
Now her real name is Carolyn.
That's what the?
That's what the dad's callingher.
Uh, on her fake or on hertemporary birth certificate that
they cannot get changed, hername is Unikite 13 Hotel,

(38:07):
unikite 13 Hotel.
That is on her temporary birthcertificate that the Nebraska
courts won't change because theysay that the guy had nothing to
do with the name and so hecan't properly get a birth
certificate for her.
So he's hired a lawyer and allthat kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
But yeah, that's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I mean again.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
it's a common sense thing.
Use your discretion.
Yeah, you know, I know we gotto keep to tight regulations.
You know that whole zerotolerance and tight reg.
That's just stupid.
You're a fucking judge, man.
That's what you're supposed todo.
You're supposed to judge thatyou can't have some third grade
little girl walking around witha fucking name like this.

(38:50):
Let her get a real name.
But no, you got to be anasshole in a black robe with a
hammer, thinking you're the shit.
No, you're not the shit, You'rethe fucking problem?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, she can't get any health care or anything,
because you need a socialsecurity number for that again
all of these out of line.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And you I hear about it, kev, all the time, about
these judges who get just drunkon power because you know they
can't be beaten in an electionor they're they're, they're, you
know, given the gig, you know,uh, for a lifetime gig and
they're just out of controlthere.
There should again more citizentribunals, kev.

(39:26):
Start judging the judges andputting them in fucking prison
If they're out of line.
Seriously, it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Well, you know, we, we said that, uh, a computer
picked that name Unikite 13hotel.
Uh, here's another computerissue and I can't wait to get
your assessment of this.
A new album was recorded overin Britain and it's called Is
this what we Want?
And it was recorded by 1,000British musicians, including
Annie Lennox, cat Stevens, damonAuburn from Blur and Kate Bush.

(39:57):
And you know what they recorded?
What 12 songs of silence andyou know what they recorded?
What?
12 songs of silence.
Each artist went into a roomand just stood there and they
recorded 12 songs of silence.
And they're doing it in protestbecause check this out, Tim the
UK government is consulting onwhether to let tech firms use
copyrighted material to helptrain AI models.

(40:20):
To help train AI models.
So they want to use theseartists' real songs, copyrighted
material, and let AI train withthem to basically make these
artists obsolete.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow, yeah Well, we talked about this a few months
ago, that eventually there willbe no Hollywood.
All the movies will be just AIgenerated.
That's where we're going.
I mean, all you'll have to dois feed the script into the AI
and it'll spit out your movie.
That's where this is going.

(40:54):
Jonas told me that a long timeago, because he's always been
ahead of the curve.
He's the AI software engineerguy.
He just said yeah, there's somany industries that are over.
So the thing about live music,though, is or musicians is, you

(41:14):
still have the live musicconcert option?
Yeah, the AI holograph thing isnot going to take you over.
No, there's nothing like a liveconcert but, yeah, your music,
uh, your music is just going tobe, you know, okay, one run of
the mill or just like whateveryou know.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, yeah.
I just I can't imagine why thegovernment would want to do that
Take copyrighted material,somebody's hard labor, and just
not compensate them for it.
You know, basically steal it.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, well, as we know from Napster 25 years ago,
we don't like to pay for shit,you know True?
Yeah, Thank you very much.
All right, what else ishappening, Kev?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
That's about all that .
I found that would beinteresting to you, so you know
all that I found that would beinteresting to you.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So you know, speaking of found, if you know what I
found, you know I I like to uhenter uh sports betting contests
.
Yes, now I don't put my ownmoney because I live in texas
and you know you can't since I,since I live in texas I'm
treated like a child by peoplein austin.
They won't allow me to bet onpoker, or, you know, they bet on
sports or anything like that,which is ridiculous.

(42:26):
I mean, we should be the freeststate in America instead of you
know this bullshit, fuckingnanny state, you know whatever.
Anyway, I was doing someresearch looking for a plum pick
and this, to me, is one of thesaddest things.
Last month, a NCAA basketballteam, north Carolina A&T did you

(42:52):
hear about this?
No, I have not.
They suspended three players,okay, and it was undisclosed,
but there were rumors floatingaround that it probably is a
point-shaving scandal.
Oh, wow.
Now, for those who don't knowwhat a point-shaving is, kev,

(43:13):
please explain.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It means that they're purposely throwing the game.
They're trying to take pointsoff the board the game they're.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
They're trying to take points off the board.
Yeah, either, either uh,completely throwing the game or
just not winning by as much, ormaking sure you keep the total
underneath, you do your part tonot score, or whatever.
Yeah, uh, that's what pointshaving is.
Um, so, just hearing the rumor,the NCAA launched its own
internal investigation and youknow what their conclusion is

(43:45):
what there was no point shavingwhatsoever.
This is just a really reallybad team.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Wow, nice, isn't that sad man.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's very sad.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
The NCAA is just just like yeah, they're just,
they're not good I mean it's sadabout that, but I mean it's
good for those three players whogot suspended that they didn't
do anything wrong I.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I don't know if they're out of suspension and
I'm not sure that was even it.
It was a point shaming, it mayhave been something else oh,
okay, but you know, obviouslythat that the north carolina a
and a, t, a and t coach.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
He needs them back on the team yeah, get the talent,
man bring it because becausethey're terrible.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Gav, that's unreal.
I know you know me my deepthought cardio and I want to
know what your feel about thisis.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay, deep thought cardio.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
When I was doing deep thought cardio, I was just
thinking everybody's mamafucking lied to them.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
How so?
I saw this on the BP.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You're not special, you're not one in a million
People.
Like you grow on trees.
They really do.
I mean, yeah, you're different,you're different.
It's like a snowflakeEverybody's different like a
snowflake.
You're different.
It's like a snowflake,everybody's different like a
snowflake.
But a snowflake in the end isjust a bunch of really chilled

(45:27):
fucking water.
It's not that special, you know.
Yeah, and I was just thinkingabout that as some mom I'm
watching some mom this poor kidjust cannot hit a baseball.
She's trying to pitch to himunderhanded or whatever, tommy,
you can do.
Oh, that was a good swing, youknow, that was good.

(45:49):
I just like the kid's notspecial.
He just this is not his thing.
Right, it's not, it's yourthing because you want it to be
your thing.
So you're putting it on the kid.
The kid's unhappy, the kid'sunhappy.
The kid doesn't want to be outthere, he wants to be doing
something else.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, it's not a lot of people's thing.
There's only what?
32 teams and there's only 26people on a team.
You know, in the major leagues.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's not a lot of people and God bless her, she's
keeping it positive.
You know, oh, that was a goodswing.
We just got to level it out alittle bit more, and this, that
and the other, you know, and Iwas just thinking about my own
upbringing I mean my own mothernever said anything positive to
me at all, ever, not one time,not once Nothing.

(46:43):
I mean not when I was hittinghome runs, not when I was
striking out the side for six,seven innings in a row, not when
I was dunking a basketball.
I mean, never had anythingpositive to say to me.
Uh, you know, kevin, I've toldyou this before, when we were in

(47:07):
tallahassee we had our firsttuttle and kline billboard.
Yep, and I drove past the thebillboard, you know, trying to
have her look up because it saidtuttle and kline and huge
letters on a billboard, and she,oh, yeah, nothing, just wow,
just nothing, nothing didn't.
And I say, did you see that?
Oh, ok, that's good, ok, yeah,just nothing.
And I remember a few years ago,you know, driving her around

(47:32):
like the last time she was inHouston, and you know, let her
know, hey, we want anotherMarconi.
You know, we're CMA radiopersonality of the year, kevin
and Erica and I and sheimmediately go well, you should
see some of the things Todd'sdoing with the Blackhawk
helicopters Immediately intothat.

(47:56):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So I never got anything likepositive, nothing you used to
have motivation positive,nothing you used to have
motivation.
Oh I, and I gotta tell you Icouldn't thank her enough for
doing that for me, uh-huh,because that that chip on the
shoulder has been a hugemotivator, yeah, huge motivator,

(48:18):
you know.
So I, I, I, just I, I don'tunderstand.
I think that we and again, Iknow you know there's people
that are listening or watchingright now oh, tim, we, you know,
we hear about all the nicethings and positive feedback you
give your own kids.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Well, yeah, you learn how not to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah, I fill them with positive reinforcement all
the time.
With a caveat though.
I tell them you're entitled tonothing.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah Well, and you don't sugarcoat anything with
them either.
No, you don't make them thinkthat they're better than what
they are.
When you tell a kid that can'thit a baseball, oh you're doing
good.
You're just setting that kid upfor more failure.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Well, no, I and that's another important thing
you never, ever, make the kidslive through your shit.
Oh, yeah, no way, yeah, throughyour shit.
And I think that's somethingthat happened to you.
Your dad wanted to be abaseball player so bad, or
something like that.
Or, you know, wanted a pro, bea pro athlete, or somebody like
that.
That.
Once you showed, oh, my boy,kevin's, got some skills.

(49:29):
uh, that was it yeah, yeah, no,I I was uh, I was uh motivated
uh by negativity as well yeah, Imean, I, kevin, I, after every
season with my kids, I always,you know, I like like hey,
audrey, you still having funwith this volleyball thing, is
it still?
You know?
Do you want to try new stuff?
He's like no, dad, I'm a, I'm afucking all-american.

(49:54):
We're gonna ride this ride alittle more yeah, a little bit
yeah, every time I walk down the, I'm a freshman dad.
and every time I walk down thehall, I'm a freshman Dad.
And every time I walk down thehall, seniors salute me.
I'm cool with this man, youknow.
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, that'swhere it comes from.

(50:20):
Just this poor kid, you know,just watching this poor kid, uh,
just trying to uh uncomfortablylet his mother know, hey, man,
I just want to go home, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
you know what I'm saying oh, I know exactly what
you're saying.
Oh, for sure, yeah, becausebecause if you're, if you're
continuously getting this kid todo something that he knows he's
not good at, you're justreinforcing a negative
perception of himself.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
You know.
Encourage them in what they'repassionate about.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Let's find something you're good at.
Let's find something you'regood at and that you like.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Well, yeah, not even the good at the passionate about
, because you can always getgood if you're passionate.
Yeah, don't limit it to goodCause you know I'm a great
masturbator, but I don't, Idon't want to join any
professional leagues, wow, allright, yeah, they just cause you

(51:22):
can, and that that evenincludes in life too.
In terms of career, you canmonetize your passions.
Yeah, oh, now it's easy, andthat's what I tell my kids.
I'm like, hey, whatever yourpassion, go with that, and you
know we'll do some brainstorming, we'll figure out a way that
you can monetize that.
Right, because I want for themwhat we had I mean we had 98

(51:47):
percent of our radio career wasa blast because it was a passion
.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Absolutely oh, there was nothing else we wanted to do
.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Exactly so.
I want that for my kids too.
I want them to to do theirpassion.
Yeah, I mean, regardless of howmuch money, that money doesn't
matter.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Oh no, I always tell kids this If you are willing to
work for free, then you havefound your passion.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's it, that's, that is exactly it.
And, kev, I was thinking aboutthat the other day, like I had
somebody asking me hey, you know, you've been futures trading,
you know watching charts forhours every morning for the past
three years.
You still enjoying it?
I'm like fuck, yeah, I love it,I just love it, and I probably

(52:33):
would even do it if I wasn'tmaking any money doing it,
because it's just the puzzlesolving the daily puzzle,
matching my wits against themost brilliant minds and robots
and algorithms in the world.
So, yeah, I would.
So I'm.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I'm getting a second chapter of the passion yeah,
you've always loved challengesand that's a challenge that's a
huge challenge, kevin, and Ienjoy it.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I really.
But like you, you know you had,you had a 30 year career on
something you enjoyed and nowyou have the option of making
sure that you enjoy everything.
And here you are.
You're there, you're the publicaddress announcer of a college
hockey team and also, you know,a double a baseball team for the

(53:25):
St Louis Cardinals.
How fun is that.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Dude, I pinch myself every day.
You know, I thanked the coacheslast night during the coaches
show that I hosted.
I'm like I just can't believethat I'm lucky enough to be
doing what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, and they'll feed you with the stuff that we
were fed in the radio career.
It's like, oh no, no, you'regood, we're glad you're here,
you know, yeah, and you're justlike I would have done it for
half the money.
Nah, seriously, I would havedone it for half the money, you
know.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, I mean again if you'll do it for free.
I volunteer for the hockey team.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Circling back to my trading Kev.
I mean, I just got done makingmoney, you know about an hour
and a half ago, and I'm done forthe day.
I solved the puzzle.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I beat the robots, I beat the MIT and Harvard
graduates and got my littletaste for today and I just love
that, and you don't have to gointo somebody's office and find
out how badly you messed up onthe air because you didn't talk
about this and you didn't talkabout that.
And well, I would have taken adifferent approach on this, you
know or you know, I'm a.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I'm a new owner and a new manager for the owners, and
I don't give a fuck who you areand what you've done for 17
years.
You don't matter to me.
Yeah, you don't.
And I'm going to get my ownvoice in here, because you're
Johnny Chang's voice, you're notmy voice.
Yeah, you know.
No, I don't have to deal withany of that shit.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah so.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
And I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Much simpler life.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I know, hey, kev, let's talk about rabbit holes,
can we do?
We have time?
Sure, yeah, why not?
All right, let's go into rabbitholes real quick.
Rabbit hole of the week, allright.
First off, what did you findyourself?
Just completely, oh my God.
I've been on this for hours now.
I can't get out.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It's kind of similar to what I talked about last week
, where I was watching dogvideos.
I was looking up adoptable dogsthis week, really.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , Are you wanting?
Now you have your Pomeranians,right.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, we have one.
The mayor died last year.
Pinto, sorry, that's okay, no,you didn't know, pinto, sorry,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
No, you didn't, I forgot man.
I'm sorry.
No, I did.
You told me, I'm so sorry man.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
It's all good, buddy, but hold on, hold on hold on.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
No, no, I want to do this right now.
No, quick moment.
Moment of silence for the mayor.
All right, wow, you didn't likethe mayor.

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That's a moment of silence.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
People are going to think we went off the air.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Let me tell you this right now Kevin Kline more than
anything in the world hated deadair.
Oh, I couldn't stand it, manCouldn't stand it, couldn't, oh
my god oh, you'd see, you couldsee his skin turning inside and
out going, oh my god we're offthe fucking air, anyway go ahead
, but yeah, no we still havebeans and in, because he doesn't

(56:39):
have a companion around anymore.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
He is like a completely different dog.
He is so skittish, he is soafraid of everything he like.
Yeah, and so we're thinkingabout getting a companion, just
to make sure that you know he'smentally stable oh, poor guy,
how old is he now?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
seven, seven, that's 49 to you and me that's correct,
sir.
Yeah, so he's your age, so nowhe's your age, so now he's
better.
Yeah, exactly, jaded.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yeah, irritable.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
God damn government, all right.
So what kind of dogs arecompatible with Pomeranians?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Oh, we're still looking at palms, yeah, yeah, I
mean, we're pretty well set onthe breed.
You know, I would love to get agerman shepherd or a great dane
.
I just don't want to clean upall that big poop well, not only
that, but you know, you got.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
You got a giant dog and a little pomeranian, and if
that german shepherd ever getshungry, yeah right.
Sorry, man, I had to do it, Iwas hungry.
You guys took too long to fillthe bowl.
Motherfucker, it's your fault,your fault and yes, he was
delicious so, yeah, that's,that's where I've been.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
What about you?
I?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
uh, kev, I've been, um, looking up like the origins
of, uh, you know, extreme sports.
Okay, because I'm veryinterested in the people who
decided, hey, man, I'm gonna dothis, I'm gonna be first, and I
guess you can really even startwith the Wright brothers.
I mean, those guys were extremesports enthusiasts.

(58:30):
Yeah, flying an airplane thenwas risky shit.
Man, that's crazy ass shit, youknow.
Oh, absolutely, and the one Ireally got into was base jumping
.
Okay, it was.
Have you done?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
that I have not, and that's that.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
That's how it all started.
Is I started, you know,checking it out and I'm watching
documentaries.
Um, base jumping.
For those of you who don't know, it's base is actually an
acronym, and I didn't know thisuntil I started investigating.
Base is uh, b is for building,a is for antennas, like radio
and tv towers, s is s is forspans, bridges, okay, and e is

(59:16):
earth, you know, like cliffs andshit, yeah, so that's base
jumping, uh, and it was prettymuch invented in the early 70s.
Guy named carl banish, uh,invented it when he decided uh,
you know, skydiving is notenough.
Um, the yosemite national parkI don't know if you ever heard
of el capitan, oh, absolutelyyeah, the rock formation at

(59:39):
yosemite, yeah, he decided, himand some friends were just going
to jump off of it and thenparachute down.
You know that's how basejumping started.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
how long do you get to free fall on a base jump?
Because he decided him and somefriends were just going to jump
off of it and then parachutedown and that's how base jumping
started.
How long do you get to freefall on a base jump Because
you're jumping from a?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
shorter altitude.
Four or five seconds, that's it.
Huh, four or five seconds.
Well, hey, kev, here's thething, and this is how they do.
It Is, they'll go from wherethey want to jump off, they'll
drop a rock and count Really,and that's how they know when to
pull the chute just before thatcount Holy smokes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's it, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Did you know the first building Carl Banish and
his crew, the first buildingthat they ever jumped off of
Houston, texas, really, theTexas Commerce Building, which
is now the JPMorgan ChaseBuilding downtown Houston, when
it was up for construction backin the early 80s I think 1981,

(01:00:40):
it's still in construction theywent up there up the stairs you
know construction sites, theydon't have heavy security, you
could just walk right in andthat's what they did.
On a Sunday when nobody'sconstructing, they just walked
right in, walked up the stairs,went up the top jumped boom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, you want to see how lax security is on
construction of a building?
Look up the documentary man onWire.
It's about Philippe Petit andhe stretched a cable across the
World Trade Center towers whenthey were being constructed and
walked them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Kev.
I watched that because you knowI'm a extreme sports guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It's my favorite documentary of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
That I didn't the thing I didn't like and they
shouldn't have done.
Yes, he shouldn't be allowed todo that.
And yes, he needs to be takenin and questioned and fined.
And you know, if you got tohave him overnight in jail,
that's fine too.
But at the end of the wire onthe other tower, two police
officers waving him in as he'sfinishing, that was bullshit.

(01:01:40):
Yeah, that you can wait, buthe's not going anywhere.
No, he's not, he's not goinganywhere.
No, he's not, he's not going togo anywhere.
You let him finish instead oflike, like, intimidating him.
I thought that was bullshit.
I was that really angered methat they couldn't just back.
They were like reaching for himand, you know, standing there
with their arms.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Well, and you know because they did that he stayed
out there longer.
Had they not been there, hewould have gotten off a lot
earlier than what he did he went13 times across and back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah, they should not have done that.
I mean, you know, just, he'snot going anywhere.
You got one set of cops on oneof the world trade center towers
and one on the other, and whenhe comes down you can grab him.
Yeah, they shouldn't have donethat, though, because I, I, I
felt for him.
Then he's trying to do I mean,that's intense shit.
Right there, man, you think,yeah, you're 1100 feet up, man,

(01:02:31):
you're dead.
He doesn't have a net.
No, no, he's dead.
Yep, god, I love that stuffanyway.
Carl banish, the uh basejumping inventor yeah, I guess
he thought he was like, really,really like indestructible
because he did a jump that endedup on the world.
Him and his wife broke theworld record on an ABC program I

(01:02:53):
think it was Robert Frost and ayoung Kathie Lee Gifford were
the host.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
OK, it wasn't that terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
No, Kathie Lee Gifford.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
OK.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You know Frank Gifford's wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahNot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Kathie Lee Crosby.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Not Kathie Lee Crosby , right.
But they did the jump, theybroke the world record.
And that night he's like oh,now I'm going to go to the one.
They told me not to jumpbecause after you drop the rock
it lands really quickly.
But I can jump out from it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
He thought he could but I can jump out from it.
He thought he could.
He died.
Oh wow, yeah, 1984.
That's what I was going to ask.
Is the world record theshortest altitude, the lowest
altitude, or it would it be thehighest altitude to base jump?
Cause I would think that thehigher the altitude is safe for
the base the jump is, the lowerthe altitude.
Okay, you got a record therethat's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That's.
That's a good point.
Calf, oh you did.
You did 4 000 feet.
Oh, big deal.
I mean you had plenty of timeto open the shoot, float down,
I'll go.
You know the guy who does hey,210 feet, let's do exactly,
that's the record I'm impressedbecause I don't know if you

(01:04:06):
remember this or not.
When we worked at the lnc towerin nashville, I was talking as
a publicity stunt to launch ourfirst ever morning radio show.
I wanted to base jump off thelnc tower you asked numerous
times.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
You asked for that and they did not want me to do
that yeah and and now I see whyis it's a little tight well, the
other reason too is because, uh, 10 months before we hit the
air, somebody base jumpedwithout a parachute.
So exactly, yeah, yeah, didn'tneed that publicity again do

(01:04:38):
that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Hey, that changed a lot of people's day it certainly
did, it did I forget.
Oh, that's, was it laura tosh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
yep, yep, gummo she was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
She was the secretary , yeah, like the receptionist.
And she just notices this lady,you know, walking in and want
to check out the uh observationdeck and she looks over and
suddenly the lady's not therethat's right yeah, yeah, had
some green day playing in herheadphones and suddenly the
lady's not there, that's right.

(01:05:11):
Yeah, yeah, had some green dayplaying in her headphones and
took the leap, yeah, andspeaking of which Kevin, you
know you're talking about mebased.
The reason I'm getting intothis is I I'm thinking of, like,
like launching a YouTube series.
You know, generation X, we'renot dead yet and me just doing
some crazy, fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh yeah, think about it.
That'd be awesome.
Thinking about it.
Would you start with base?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
jumping.
I don't know, but I'd want todo all kinds of stuff, like I
would want to do cliff divingand swim with charts.
I want to jump as high as I canoff of a building into the pool
, you know, like a hotelbuilding into the pool.
I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I want to.
I want to do that, I want to go, I want to go.
Uh, yeah, in a, in a cage withsharks, you know, great, great
whites.
I want to do all that, okay.
I think I do, and just just doa youtube series.
You know the old guys, we we'renot dead yet that's a great
name for it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
We're not dead yet.
Yeah, nice, be a great name forit I mean gen x kev.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
We're Gen X.
Yeah, we were the originalextreme sports people, exactly
right, we did all that stuff thebungee jumping, the cliff
diving, the stuff that you see.
That was us.
So, yeah, that's something Iwas thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Carry that torch, Timmy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yeah, my ex-wives are all for it.
They're like do that like.
You got my support.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
100 motherfucker, all right I've got to wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Okay, buddy, that was a lot of fun.
Yeah, for sure, as usual.
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Anything coming up this week?
What do you got going on thisweek?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Well, if I could, I'd like to plug this for anybody
who's listening in theSpringfield area or who doesn't
mind making a nine-hour drivefrom Houston to Springfield.
On Sunday, march 9th, we areshowing Delivering Hope, the
documentary made about myNovember 2019 run in Alaska.
We're showing at one of thetheaters here in Springfield as
a fundraiser for the hockey team.

(01:07:55):
So it's three o'clock in theafternoon matinee and tickets
are on sale.
I've got the link right downthere on the bottom of the
screen and we'll do a Q&Aafterwards with with one of the
guys in the film.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Me Wow.
So Sunday March 9th, deliveringhope, and then the next Sunday,
the 16th, I'm going to have aviewing of deliverance.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
The live version Squeal like a pig, nice gone
yeah I gotta go that's it forthis episode of the tuttle and
klein show.
See you this wednesday for anall new episode, and thanks for
listening to the tuttle andklein show.
Yo, all right, take the yo out.