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In a seamless episode that kicks off with a Timmy T Greatest Hits Medley, we discuss cover songs and the ones that we think are the greatest of all time. That opened the door for Timmy T's inimitable vocal stylings. Who needs Simon and Garfunkle, Paul McCartney, Manfred Mann or David Bowie when we have 

Plus, in this episode we talk about firing squads and why Kline could never be a part of one.

You'll also hear the term "sphincter control" which is something you likely thought you'd never hear on our show

Tuttle also shares with us how to deal with someone who pulls on a horses tail and we introduce you to the newest member of Kline's family.

It's a not to be missed episode, but then again, aren't they all.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they
made and the sign flashed outits warning in the words that it
was forming, in the words thatit was forming.
Then the sign said the words ofthe prophets are written on the

(00:33):
subway walls in tournamenthalls, and whispered in the
sound of silence.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
So which version do you like better?
Do you like the disturbedversion or do you like the?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
disturbed is just off the charts, man yeah, dave
draymond nails that man draymondis.
That is.
That is one of the not onlygreatest covers in history but,
uh, just one of the greatestperformance and performances in
history.
I put that right up there Kevwith Whitney Houston I Will
Always Love you.
I put it right up there withthat and just any powerful song

(01:12):
that can literally bring you totears.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's interesting that you open with that and we're
talking about covers, because Ijust read a news article this
morning what is the most coveredsong of all time?
Because I just read a newsarticle this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
What is the most covered song of all time?
Oh, that's funny, you know, andwe should just do this too, by
the way.
What is it?
What is the most covered?
Let it be.
Though I find myself in timesof trouble, mother Mary comes to
me Speaking words of wisdomTimothee, timothee, timothee.

(01:52):
I played that all the time withmy ex in there, and I would
sing Timothee.
As a matter of fact, cap anysong that I could come up that
ends with the.
You know where the line endswith the E sound.
Yeah, I would work in Timothee,and she just got annoyed as
fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, it's unique, I like it.
He's Timmy T.
Yeah, he's got a might.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, but any song I would just sing along and I
would add the Timmy T at the end.
She would just be like we're nolonger together.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, that's totally acceptable.
Yeah, I think.
If I remember correctly, threeof the top five are Beatles
songs.
Six of the top 10 are Beatlessongs.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay, let, let, let's , uh, let's get into this.
Well, do you remember off thetop of your head?
Well, hold on, let's, let's dothis.
I'm going to, I'm going to callan audible at the line of
scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, uh, let's do a top three just when you thought
they couldn't count any higher.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's Tuttle and Klein's top three top three
greatest covers in history KevinKlein uh.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, I will say a sound of silence by uh, by
disturbed.
That is a phenomenal one.
I'm gonna go with uh, uh uh,guns N' Roses knocking on
heaven's door.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, even Bob Dylan, after he heard that, was just
like are you fucking kidding me?
Uh-huh, yeah, are you fucking?
I'm just going to go over herenow.
I'm just going to go in thecorner and weep at what you did
to my song.
It was so amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
And you know, I don't know if it's maybe just because
we're on the Dylan tip, butJimi Hendrix, all along the
watchtower, great.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
A lot of people don't know.
They think that's a Hendrixoriginal.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
No, no, that's a Dylan.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, that's, and you know what?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Maybe it's because Complete Unknown came out and it
was in the oscar thing, uh.
But um, you have said this along, long time ago that taylor
swift, as a lyricist, is rightup there with bob dylan.
I've started paying moreattention to bob dylan.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, that fucker could write man oh, I kev, and
he's even said it too.
He'll look, you know, years,decades past, and he looked at
his words and he's like I can'teven believe these came out of
me.
You know, it's just amazingstuff.
So I love how you're on theDylan tip.
That's good stuff.
You got anything else?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, the other one that I would go with.
You'll appreciate this becauseit's a Zeppelin song, no Quarter
.
The way that Crowbar does it isreally, and I played it for you
.
Uh, back at 93q studios and yousaid you know, as covers go,
that's a really good one.
Yeah, really good one.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, so those would be my four.
Uh, kev I, I I'm gonna havetrouble holding it down to four.
I agree with you on thedisturbed and the uh and the
guns and roses knocking onheaven's door.
Um, I have to tell you that, uh, manford, man's blinded by the
light shit, I forgot about thatthat.
Kevin bruce springsteen, hewrote it.

(04:53):
Yeah, he wrote it and he is.
He was the same way.
He was like wow, that's, that's,that's a nice arrangement can
you give us a little bit of that, because I know your favorite
part of it and go-kart mozartwas checking out the weather,
trying to see if it was safeoutside, and little early pearly
gave my anus curly whirly andasked me if I needed a ride.

(05:13):
I don't know what the fuck thatmeans, but it sounds really
cool I was gonna ask you whatthe hell does that mean?
don't know.
I I tried to examine it, can't?
You know?
Back in the my party days incollege, uh-huh, when I was
doing drugs and shit, I tried toexamine that song from every
angle and I'm like it's mishmash.
It's kind of like Brad Paisleythe butterfly tattoo or whatever

(05:39):
.
Yeah, he's just playing a joke.
I think Springsteen and Paisleyjust playing a joke to see if
they could get a song with weirdass lyrics on the charts there
you go.
Well, they succeeded um, whoelse god?
I had them in my head a secondago.
Uh oh uh.
Jacob dylan, and right behindjacob dylan is peter gabriel

(06:04):
Gabriel doing David Bowie'sHeroes.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Oh yeah, that's a frequently covered tune too.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
We can be heroes just for one day, great stuff.
And, by the way, that's thesong, the Peter Gabriel version,
the real slowed up, you knowgrindy version of that song is
the end song of Lone Survivor,the Marcus Luttrell Operation
Red Wing story, that movie, yeah, and where it flashes the

(06:33):
montage of the guys who werekilled and their life and their
pictures and everything likethat.
I'm just like oh wow, uh-huh.
Yeah, so great stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
What's the?
What's the beatles song?
Oh uh, come together.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That aerosmith did yeah, aerosmith did come
together pretty good.
Uh-huh um joe cocker withlittle help oh amazing yeah,
that was a.
That was an incredible versionof that.
Um, trying to think I don't.
There there's a couple that arejust like what oh, you're

(07:05):
talking about Zeppelin?
When they did famous 1920s,1930s blues guy Robert Johnson's
Nobody's Fault but Mine.
That's not their song.
That is not their song.
That's Robert Johnson, a blackbluesman.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh yeah, they called him the devil.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, was such a great guitarist guitarist 1920s
and 1930s and the the familyabsolutely loves the.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Robert johnson family loved that rendition and the
checks they got for itabsolutely it was that it was
their best pay that they evergot yeah, and if you want to
take it another notch, dreadzeppelin's cover of that is
really good too.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yeah, Dred Zeppelin is awesome.
Yeah, I love that.
Dred Zeppelin is a guy whodresses up as Elvis, kind of
sings like Elvis and he's doingZeppelin songs.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
With a reggae tune.
Oh, it's so awesome.
It really is.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
All right, I don't want to leave anything off.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh well, you're going to.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm going to, because so many great covers Whitney
Houston's rendition of FrancisScott Key's Star Spangled Banner
.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, she was not the originator of that.
No, she killed it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
She murdered that one .
That was awesome.
I just think, kev.
Regardless of what you think ofWhitney Houston, I think she is
the greatest singer who everlived.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Really.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I do.
Okay, I do.
I mean, is she on your radar?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
She's up there.
I mean to me.
I think Miley Cyrus is the bestsinger I've ever heard.
What she can sing, anything.
She can sing anything.
Go listen to her cover of J?
Uh of Jolene, which is uh thengo listen to her cover of sound
garden and listen to her coverof zombie from cranberries.
Tell me that lady can't sing.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
She did Uh, she did a good one of deaf leopard
photograph.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh, yes, she did.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That was really good.
Yeah, yep, okay, I'll get onthat same note in terms of you
know um generation z ormillennials, or whatever.
Ariana grande I remember whenwe went to the cmas and she
opened or played at the cmas, Iwas blown away by her pipes oh,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Can't she do what mariah carey does hit all five
octaves she is.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
that is a ridiculous talent, a ridiculous talent.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.
Yeah, so yeah okay, yeah, allright, top vocalists.
Yeah, I mean Whitney Houstonwill be up there, miley Cyrus
and Timothy John Tuttle.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh, shut your mouth.
I'm terrible.
I'm terrible.
I would you know, kev, I wouldlove to work with a vocal coach
to see if there's anything thatthey can do.
Of course there is, because Iwould just love, you know, even
if I'm doing that, you know morebassy type, you know?
Yeah, through the neon godsthey prayed you know, dude,

(10:01):
that's good.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Okay, I'd pay to see it.
Shut your fucking.
Okay, I'd pay to see it.
Shut your fucking mouth.
I'd pay to see it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Don't do that, kev.
Hey, you know what I did.
Tell me if you ever had abumble as bad as this one.
Now for those unaware I gotCOVID last week.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, how'd that go?
Knocked you out for a littlewhile, didn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, I mean it puts you on your ass for a little bit
and my voice was really screwedup, but you know that.
Mono, what is it?
Monoclonal antibodies treatment.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, that's the savior right there, man.
Okay, that is Because theybuilt that in the Wuhan lab.
That was specifically built tokill fat people, obese people,
people with some ailments andold people and I'm not quite old
yet, but I can feel adifference from when I got it

(10:59):
this time and then when I got itthree and a half years ago.
Really, yeah, there's adifference from when I got it
this time and then when I got itthree and a half years ago.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Really.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, there's a difference.
I don't know whether that'sbecause of the strain or not
different strain, but yeah, thisone was like okay, yeah, you're
going to have to lay down alittle bit, tim, which is
unusual for me.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I can't sit still.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I can't sit still.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you would.
I mean, it was a rare occasionthat you would get sick enough
that you couldn't come into work.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, yeah, I, wednesday and thursday last week
I I had to.
I had to lay down, wow, whichis very unusual, I mean I, I, I
would trade.
And I think on thursday I waslike nothing was setting up for
about an hour and a half and I'mjust like I'm not gonna do this
, I'm not gonna go lay down?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
yeah, because you're prone to make mistakes then yeah
, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, youdon't.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
You don't want to be fucking around in that gauntlet
if your mind's not right andyour health is not right,
because you'll get chewed up.
Yeah, you got to be quick, yougot to be smart and you got to
be thinking so, um, anyway, yeah, I you know I I rarely like
leave places.
I, you know I stay a lot aroundhere and do a lot of walking.

(12:09):
So you know, every so often,just if after it's been a few
days and it had been because ofthe COVID, I'll go fire up my
car engine.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I guess I'm old school.
I, you know, probably don'tneed to do that with the modern
vehicles, but I'm old school.
I remember when you grew up inWisconsin and Indiana you got to
warm the engine up Right, and Ieven have a garage in it.
I don't need to warm it up oranything like that but I went
and started my engine justbecause it's been like five or
six days since I've drivenanywhere.
Kev.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I left my goddamn engine on car running for seven
hours yesterday.
Car running for seven hoursyesterday?
No way, yeah, I forgot about it.
I fired it up.
I fired it up and I came inhere and I got everything fired
up on my computer, got my chartsup and everything.
I was just going to go back outthere, maybe rev the engine a
couple of times, shut it up.
I totally spaced it.
Seven hours, seven hours.

(13:00):
My damn car was running.
Hey, kev order.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Actually more of a third of a tank of gas gone.
Wow so, but you don't have a.
It's a detached garage, right?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
it's not attached to your apartment.
No it, no, it's attached reallyyeah, I, you got you open the
garage door wow, you could havegene hackman yourself yeah, what
the heck?
and let's do this right now,since you're on it For those
unaware.
I'm really off the grid.
I don't watch propaganda newsit's ridiculous.
I don't go to social mediabecause most of it are bots or

(13:35):
just stupid people who don'tknow what's good for them.
I just can't tolerate itanymore.
So Kev, on a weekly basis,tells me the things that have
happened over the past week thathe thinks that I may need or
may want to know.
I did catch wind of one of thegreatest actors of all time,
gene Hackman.
His passing.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, 95 years old, he and his wife and one of their
three German shepherds died intheir house in Santa Fe, new
Mexico.
They speculate that they hadbeen dead for nine days before
they were found.
Now they did do a toxicologyreport and immediately ruled out
carbon monoxide, but the reasonthat they checked on that was
because the car was running intheir garage for quite some time

(14:18):
.
So they're still doing.
They still don't have a causeof death, but they say it is
very suspicious.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, and that's what I noticed when it flashed
because you know it flashed itflashed on the screen that he
died and his wife died and hisdog died, and then they
immediately said, well, no, foulplay is as soon as they can.
You know, that is, if you, ifyou report that immediately,
that tells me there was foulplay and they're trying to cover

(14:45):
it up.
Okay, that's the first thing.
Oh, yeah, kev, it happens sooften.
They want to get the narrativeout there as soon as possible.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know, 10 minutes after the Kennedy assassination,
we got him.
His name is Lee Harvey Oswald.
We got him.
It's like, really, you didn'tinvestigate or anything.
No, no, no, no, this is justone guy.
Just one guy Lee Harvey Oswald.
I mean, when they immediatelycome out with a narrative,

(15:14):
that's what I immediately thefirst thing that I think of is
oh boy, there's more to thisstory.
There's more to this story.
And you know, I don't know whyanybody would want to kill gene
hackman, outside of the conceptof somebody wanted his royalties
.
They didn't want, they weretired of him.
He's, he was 95, kevin, is thatwhat he was?
95, 95, yes, yeah, they thoughtmaybe he would live to be 83

(15:36):
and 84 and they would start toget the royalties.
And they got tired of thatbullshit.
Yeah, I don't know.
But but as soon as the, if youtell me, just being an astute
observer and somebody with alogical mind and can fucking
think for themselves and not asheep, if you tell me that a man
and his wife and his dog diedor dead in a house all at the

(16:00):
same time, and then youimmediately come out with a
report of hey, no, foul play, nofoul play, my first thought is
foul play yeah, well, they'remaking a big deal out of the uh
pill bottle that was found inthe bathroom, so I'll be anxious
to see what the toxicologyreports say and all that kind of
stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Not the tangent, but okay.
So lee harvey oswald, what wasjack ruby?
Was he just a disgruntledamerican that was pissed off?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
no, no no, no, that's that's what they played it off.
He was connected with theChicago mob.
Mob is in on the hit.
Mob is part of it.
They moved around the some ofthe hit teams, you know, and
they were supposed to killOswald, their patsy, at the
movie theater, but the wrong copgot there first.
Oh, okay, oh, one of the goodcops got there first so they

(16:49):
couldn't kill him at the movietheater.
That's what they were supposedto do is kill him.
He was, you know, lee harvey.
Oswald was cia.
It was all a cia operation andhe didn't.
He thought it was just going tobe.
Some probably thought that hewas just there, was just going
to be somebody staging something, um, you, something as a
protest or whatever.
When they realized they whackedhim, he knew he was in trouble.

(17:11):
He got out of the Texas SchoolBook Depository, went to his
boarding flat and then headed tothe place where he was supposed
to meet Handler's, that movietheater.
Well, the setup was he was goingto get killed at that movie
theater by a dirty cop.
He pulled a gun on me, I shothim, this is the assassin.
And then, boom, it's game overwhen the wrong cop put him in

(17:33):
custody and he starts chirpingand you can look it up.
I'm just the patsy.
That's what he said.
Lee Harvey Oswald, I'm just thepatsy which is just signaling
to the world hey man, this isCIA and I'm just one of their
operatives.
They're trying to pin this onme.
That's exactly what he wastrying to say.
Then the the mob said hey, jack, you owe us a couple favors

(17:56):
there in Dallas.
You're going to have to go killthis guy.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, so to quiet him right, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and then him right oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
And then they burnt all the notes from the
interviews with him.
You know there's no, there's norecord of what he was saying to
police officers for the 26, 28hours that he was in custody.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
No record of it at all.
They, they.
They shredded the notes Kev.
Ok, all right.
Well, yeah, I wanted to defendit.
Word on that, and I know thatyou are a massive aficionado.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So thank you for me.
Thank you, yes, it's come out.
Initially they thought it wasthe?
Uh french mob.
They flew over some french guys, uh, uh, lucien sarti, they
said was the grassy knoll guy.
They speculated but actually itwas.
It was homegrown a guy namedjames files, uh, f-i-l-e-s.
He was the grassy knoll shooter.
He was the one who assassinatedkennedy, whatever happened to

(18:51):
him, he's in prison still.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh really, what'd he go down for for the for the
shooting I?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
think he killed a judge or something like that
later.
Okay, or something like that.
But yeah, he, he admitted it.
And you know there weremultiple teams in dallas morning
.
Nobody knew about anybody.
I mean, that's how it is.
They compartmentalize it.
You're just supposed to do yourfucking job.
James Files was told and this isall documentaries out there.
You can go look them up, jamesFiles, kind of JFK assassination

(19:21):
documentary.
He they said, james, we don'twant to use you, you're the last
line of defense set up in thegrassy knoll.
We think we can get them beforethen.
So if you're looking throughyour scope and you don't think
that they got them and theydidn't, he may have survived the
next shot, kev.
Really, he may have survivedthat.

(19:41):
So, james Files, they didn'twant, because they didn't want
it, they didn't want too manyshots being fired.
You know they want the lonegunman thing.
Right, that was very importantto them.
They had to have, they weregoing to pin it on Lee Harvey
and they didn't want multiplegunmen.
So they didn't want to have toomany shots fired.
So you know, james Files,looking through his scope, said
he's hit through the neck and hehad to make like a, like a.

(20:03):
Within two seconds.
He had to make the decision.
He just said I lit him up.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, here's something that I read this
morning and another thing I wasgoing to bring up to you.
South Carolina is going toexecute an inmate this Friday
and they're going to do it byfiring squad.
The last time that happened was15 years ago, and I read OK, so
they put the.
You know, I remember this fromthe executioner song Gary

(20:32):
Gilmore in the 1970s.
They put a little patch overyour heart and then three
corrections officers withWinchester rifles shoot at that
heart.
Okay, and for a brief momentyou're still alive.
After your heart explodes Shit.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's a tough way to go.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, but one of the commentators on the poster and
the news story that I said.
He said why don't they go forwhat China does?
The Medulla Avangada, and Iremember our SWAT training.
That's what they do.
Yep, yeah, because you feelnothing there.
Well, yeahulla oblongata, and Iremember our SWAT training,
that's what they do.
Yep, yeah, because you feelnothing there.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, yeah, it's over immediately and you can't even
react.
That's why they, for those,unaware.
When a bad guy has a hostageand a gun to a hostage and the
SWAT guy has a shot medullaoblongata, which from the front,
you take it right here.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, it's where the eyes and the nose meet.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, you take it right here.
If you have that shot and it'sa clean shot and the hostage
taker is not moving around toomuch and the hostage themselves
is not moving in the line ofthat too much, you take that
shot.
Because once that shot goesthrough, it is such a uh
explosive ender you know lifeender that he can't the the host

(21:52):
, the um, the hostage takercannot fire off around and kill
the hostage completelyincapacitated immediately
completely incapacitated.
They and they learn that thehard way is.
Like you, they would do a heartshot or just any kind of head
shot or whatever, and the lastmotion would, and we lost some
hostages that way, yeah, Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I went and read the comments, as I like to do,
and I think I might have readthe all-time greatest reader
comment for this story.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Love to hear it.
What do you got man?
Hey, who cleans that?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
up.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Samuel L Jackson.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, everybody else is like why are they using a
firing squad?
Why don't they beat him with abat, like he did his victims?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, you know, eye for an eye.
That was the greatest commentthat I think I've ever read.
Hey, who cleans that up?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
By the way, that's, that is a, that is a actual job.
Is there, there are, there areservices of crime scene cleaners
.
Oh yeah, oh that's what they doyeah, it featured in the movie
called the cleaner, where samueljackson was that that guy?
Yeah, I would imagine they makepretty decent money yeah, yeah,

(23:13):
I mean some of the shit thatthey have to undo.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, who the hell wants to scrape brain off a wall
?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, not only that, but Kev 99.9% of the people who
have sudden death like that shittheir pants.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Hey, while we're talking aboutthis South Carolina firing squad
, I have a be honest for you.
Be be honest timmy, be honest,could you be one of the three
corrections officers that takethat fatal shot?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
absolutely, really, absolutely okay, absolutely, kev
.
I, as a matter of fact, I, I,you know, being semi-retired now
, um, I would like to throw myhat in the ring If, if a you
know state of Texas, city ofHouston, you know city of
Richmond, fort Bend County, orwhatever, if, if they're ever,

(24:04):
you know, in execution mode andsomebody requests the firing
squad, I would love to be one ofthe people that that, like, I'm
pretty good.
Yeah, I've seen you shoot.
I got a pretty good shot.
I certainly can hit the littlepatch that they have from a
reasonable distance without aproblem.

(24:24):
So, yeah, I would like to dothat.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
They shoot from 15 feet.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh my God, Kev, I would do a behind-the-back shot.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I only know one person in history that couldn't
make that shot you.
You're listening to him.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Kevin Kline 20 minutes later, I'm left-eye
dominant.
Well, we would love to haveknown that 20 minutes ago
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
And 400 rounds ago that you wasted.
That was at the uh unitedstates marine recruit depot,
paris island, on the caissonfiring range, I think he's just.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
There's something wrong with this motherfucker man
.
You, you were a baseball.
Did you ever get a hit?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
yeah, yeah, that was that, that was fun wait a minute
, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh yeah, left eye dominant.
Yeah, you, I mean, you don't?
You don't that?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
that means, kevin, that up until that moment in
your life uh, you're in yourearly 30s you didn't know that
you were, uh, left eye dominantno, I knew I was left eye
dominant from baseball because Iwas a left-handed hitter and I
had to use an open stance sothat I could get my left eye
into the hitting zone.

(25:40):
But what I didn't know was thatbecause of that, I need to be a
left-handed shooter.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So what you're telling me is up to that moment,
you have probably never hadanything in a scope before.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh, I had never held a gun, Tim, up until that moment
.
Holy shit dude I never held agun.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
What a time to do that.
You're at the U S Marines uhbase.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And you that you find out in front of all of those
drill instructors and all thoseMarines, wow, okay.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, the first gun I ever held and shot was an M16.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Dude, how absolutely freaked out were you, how
anxious were you I didn't wantto do it.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
And they don't let you get away with that as
Marines.
They don't let you.
Well, shit, no.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Fuck that boy, You're going to learn how to shoot
yeah.
Yeah, you goddamn fuck that boy.
You're gonna learn how to shoot.
Yeah, yeah, you goddamn faggot.
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh, they had three different instructors work with
me.
And yeah, that was okay, Ididn't, I didn't know that.
I just initially, uh, kellyhunter, and I thought you were
fucking around, you were justjacking with him.
And then we realized my God,he's got a problem.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, he's got a big problem.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
He's got a problem over there and I could just see
you, you know, going guys,that's enough.
You know that's enough.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I didn't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
You're taking the fun out of this whole trip.
Yesterday Jimmy Johnson steppeddown from his uh post at uh fox
nfl sunday after 31 yearsretired.
I figured that was going tohappen.
After the super bowl, uh, aigenerated life of jimmy johnson.
Uh, a little feature went down.

(27:29):
I figured something like thatwas up.
It just hadn't been announcedyet.
I mean, you gotta love jimmy j,jimmy Johnson, one of the
greatest hairdos ever, yeahRight.
And you know not only that, agreat guy, we we talked to him
on our show and he went intoheavy detail on exactly what it
takes for him to get his lid,his helmet there.

(27:49):
Do you remember?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
that, yeah, I mean was Barry Switzer after him.
Yes, with the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Switzer won a Super Bowl right.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah.
The third one the Cowboys gotin the 90s was actually under
Barry Switzer, but Kev, we allknow it was Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Johnson's team.
Oh for sure, Jimmy put thattogether, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
He put that shit together, so everybody knows
that.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
And then the final story and I only bring this up
because you are a father of fouruh, a 29 year old woman has no
relation to the five-year-oldkid that's on the back of the
horse.
She goes up and pulls thehorse's tail and the horse bucks
the five-year-old off what yeah, she just thought it would be
funny.
Yeah, she thought it would be aa really funny thing to go pull

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a horse's tail with afive-year-old on its back.
Horse ends up bucking the kidoff.
He's fine no major injuries oranything like that.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
But I see you're laughing I'm laughing because
that that she just wanted this.
I mean I, yeah, I mean, youknow, if that was my kid, yeah,
that's what I want to know.
And she started like, leavingthe parking lot, I would take a
rocket, shoulder, launch rocketand fire at her vehicle and walk

(29:10):
up to her as she's burning andI'd be going.
I just want to see what thatlooked like.
I just, I just I didn't.
I've, you know, I've had thisrocket launcher in my truck for
four or five years and I wasjust like you know what.
Today is the day that I want tosee what it feels like, it
looks like when I fire this at avehicle and it blows up.

(29:31):
And it blows up.
You know that.
I know, is that messed up?
I know that's a Bill Burr thing.
Bill Burr, you're driving alongand there's a huge amount of
people on the sidewalk Righthere, you're just a normal guy,
everything's fine.
You took two inches of left.
You're on every news station inAmerica.

(29:51):
You know, yeah, right here.
Oh, I gotta go home and youknow I'm gonna have, uh, same
damn dinner with the same damnwoman and the bratty kids and
all that stuff.
We're gonna watch our fuckingshows and I'm gonna go to sleep.
Oh right, here this.
This man just pulled onto thething.

(30:13):
It killed everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
You know I'm saying I know exactly what you're saying
.
But yeah, the rocket launcher,that would be hilarious.
Yeah, what an idiot, though, togo up and pull a horse's tail
just to see what it does with afive-year-old on his back.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, I mean, if you want to see what a horse does,
you know, just do it without thekid on the back, without the
kid on the back.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know, yeah, then you're going to get kicked.
I'm surprised she didn't getkicked.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I can't believe she didn't get kicked Right.
Was she charged with anything?
Was the kid okay?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
The kid is okay, but yes, she is charged with felony
child endangerment.
Wow, okay, wow.
Now, how funny is that?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, who's laughing now?
That's right, get some prisonerin there.
I just wanted to see what itwas like with a shank.
Goes like in through the solarplexus, it up.
I thank you for letting me dothat.
Have a nice day right, yeah.
Kev, let's do this because Igot caught in a really cool

(31:20):
rabbit hole, so let's go thereright now.
Rabbit hole of the week.
First off, what rabbit holewere you caught in this past
week?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Well, it's very simple Puppy training, because
we ended up getting a puppy onSunday.
Oh did you, we did you, we did,yes, we did for those unaware
uh, beans um needed, uh a friend.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Beans lost the mayor, that's right.
What last year?
And has been moping and kind ofdepressed.
And since kevin klein knowsdepression more than anybody,
yes, yes, he does.
He saw that and just like maybewe need to get Beans.
You know a buddy.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, tell me about the buddy.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, his name is Simon, he's well, they say he's
a Pomeranian toy poodle mix,which would make him a Poma Poo.
But we took him to the vettoday and the vet said, nah, I
think he's more papillon, sohe's probably a Poma pap, which
doesn't sound any better.
No, no, that sounds terrible.

(32:24):
But here's the thing, what Inoticed about the rabbit hole
that I was down with puppytraining Okay, so they need to
be fed on a regular schedule.
Okay, right, they need theirsleep and they need to go to the
bathroom every two to two and ahalf hours.
I told Trish I'm like, wow,they're like they had a lot in
common with a 55 year old man.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
That's it.
You're surrounding yourselfwith your own kind.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
And his favorite thing to do is to hide under the
couch when people come over.
Dude same here holy shit, it ismy spirit animal my god, kev,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
let me tell you this if you come home one day and
he's watching black anal porn,oh the bap baby yeah, for those
unaware uh, back in the late 90swhen we were young.
Oh, the BAP baby.
Yeah, for those unaware, backin the late 90s, when we were
young alternative rock guys, weused to get free porn sent to us
and Kevin Kline would alwayswhisper hey, I want to get the

(33:30):
black anal porn.
You know why?
Right, you were shocked.
You were fascinated at howsomething that big can fit into
something that small.
Exactly yes.
How does it happen?
Trust me, those girls need alittle off time.

(33:53):
Afterwards Recovery.
Everybody needs a little timeaway.
I heard to say oh my god, angie, we've been laying out for like
eight hours and you will notlay on your back, why?
No, I'm just gonna lay on mystomach for the next seven to

(34:16):
ten days and how do you hold anybowel movement in after that?
I, you know it is a muscle.
It stretches and then retracts,or whatever, but I see, yeah,
yeah, I know you were fascinatedby that.
Well, here's.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Here's an interesting thing, because when I went in
for the little prostate exam,right you know, oh, did you?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
do that.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well, yeah, a while back I did.
And the doctor?
The first thing the doctor saysto me is you have great
sphincter control, wow.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
What the hell you have great.
You don't want to hear that.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I don't want to hear anything.
No, don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear anything.
No, you're good.
You're good.
You don't have to do it foranother 20 years, oh yeah yeah,
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You didn't have to give me that comment.
And why do you have two arms ortwo hands on my waist?
So, doc, with, with, with ahand on each of my waist, each
of my hips, what's exactlyprobing me right now?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
It's just a new way we're doing it now.
It's more accurate.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean, my finger was pretty good at detecting, but
my cock is really good at it.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Nice, terrible, all right, so tell me about your
rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, no, I'm curious what did you name your new dog?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Well, we just kept the name that the shelter, the
Little Rays of Sunshine Rescue,his name is Simon.
Well, my rescue, his name isSimon.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
My name is Simon.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's what I did the other day and Trish goes, don't
do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
And I bet you want to see my drawings.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
But his nickname for me is once he learns Simon, then
I'm going to change it over tothe monster.
So Simon, my little monster.
Ok how old is Simon?
He's three and a half months.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh OK, so he's just a baby, so he's not like a fucked
up rescue where you don't knowwhat happened before.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
No, we know what happened.
His mom was a breeder surrenderand she was pregnant at the
time, so he was like born at therescue shelter, right yeah, so
he's only had one owner andbasically we're we're the new,
we're the first owner, really.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, I was like you know, audrey.
About a year and a half twoyears ago she they rescued a dog
, apollo, great dog.
I love the dog.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Great name.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
But initially you know apollo great dog I love the
dog, great name.
But initially you know apollolittle squirrely.
You know, and and you know howit is cav when some of these
rescues you know, especially ifthey they were out in the
wilderness for a while.
I mean you don't know some ofthe shit they had to do.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
That's right to survive the wilderness, you know
I'm saying I know exactly whatyou're saying, because they yeah
, they take no prisoners whenthey have to survive.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Apollo, apollo.
There was a time where wedidn't want him around, timmy,
because you know, timmy, my boyTimmy, I walk up to anything,
pat him.
Hey how you doing there, buddy,what's going on.
You know, yeah, little growland you know half snap and it's

(37:43):
like what breed is apollo?
You know, they know he, he's,he's got, he's got some uh,
fighter dog in him.
I forget exactly what you said.
I think some little bit of pitin him, okay.
So, yeah, he's, he's got thatand that he can have the
muscular thing nice like likewhen he was at uh rescue at the
pound or whatever he was workingout the whole time he was just
like somebody's gonna pay man.

(38:03):
You know, yeah, yeah, he'scurling poodles and shit.
Yeah, he's got that kind ofbuild, he's got that cage.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah well, I'm very thankful and very glad to hear
that a part pit bull was wasadoptable, because a lot of
company or a lot of places won'teven try to adopt pit bulls.
They get such a bad rep.
It's not the dog, it's the waythey're.
It's the way they're raised.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
It's the way they're raised.
Every single dog is born with agood heart and the desire to
please their owner, their friend, their pal, every dog.
What you do as an irresponsibleowner after that birth or after

(38:54):
you get them is on you.
I mean, you could take thebiggest, scariest fucking
looking dog ever and turn theminto just a sweetest, nicest dog
If you just treat them that way.
Absolutely yeah, so yeah it'syeah, I never blamed the pit
bull.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
There's a story I read over the week weekend that
we did not domesticate dogs.
We did not domesticate dogs, wedid not domesticate wolves.
They've domesticated themselvesto be pals with us.
We.
They figured out that we were asource of food, and so the
wolves started coming around forthe food, and eventually they

(39:30):
just started domesticatingthemselves.
That is so smart, isn't itthough?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
You know I Kev, I got to tell you.
You know sharks should take apage from that.
You know, if they weren't suchdicks, you know they wouldn't be
endangered.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, yeah, they are dicks.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
You know you go into, you know you're going to the
water and you see a shark.
If that shark comes up and go,hey pal, you need a little help.
We may have aquariums in ourbackyards with sharks in them
could very well, yeah, yeah hey,philly, come here, phil, come
here, careful that second rackof that second row of teeth,

(40:14):
careful, careful, you know, youknow I do yeah they need to take
a page.
Yeah, I mean, or just any likefierce animal like that.
I mean, can you imagine?
I mean, if you look at bears,they're a cool looking animal.
Oh, they're awesome looking.
And you know, if they approachthings differently, they will

(40:37):
probably be able to be on thecouch watching the Superbowl
eating potato chips with us.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Wouldn't you love that?
That'd be great.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine an intruder?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
And also, can you imagine how uppity they'd be if
Chicago made the Superbowl?
You know, holy shit, dude,they'd be unbearable.
Pun intended.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Grizz over here has been layingon the couch the last three
days holding court.
Okay, but that would be cool ifsomebody breaks into your house
.
Oh, it's a bear.
You know what?
I'm going to go into the carand get all of my other stolen
items and just bring them inhere for you.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Sorry, but they wouldn't realize how
domesticated and kind that bearis.
It would just be, you know,because they're such an imposing
stature.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Oh yeah, the bear would just be like.
Oh, I just thought it was a newbuddy.
Here we're going to talk aboutthe X's and O's of the upcoming
game.
Here we're going to talk aboutthe x's and o's of the upcoming
game.
Now we got bears talking, okayyeah, yeah um kev, speaking of
it, since we're kind of a littlebit on the topic, my rabbit
hole, um you know, coming off ofthe miracle on ice, uh, 45 year

(41:48):
anniversary that we had isn'tthat crazy I started doing a
deep dive on the greatest uhupsets in sports history so that
must be one of them, probably.
Buster douglas, mike tyson yeah,buster douglas over tyson,
definitely one of the greatest.
And I was watching little minidocumentaries.
You know hour, hour and a halfdocumentaries on all of these

(42:10):
uh-huh that I could, that Icould find new y York Jets.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Joe Namath, New York Jets.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
That's on there for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It was the AFL still and the Green Bay Packers had
wiped up and mopped up the firsttwo teams from the AFL in the
first two Super Bowls and theJets, I think, kev.
I think they were a 16-pointunderdog for the game.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And Joe Namath was like we're going to win, we're
going to beat him, and everybodythought he was fucking insane,
you know.
Joe's drinking again, you know,and they won.
They beat the Baltimore Colts,who are a powerhouse team.
Oh yeah, you know them, and thePackers in those years were
just back and forth.
You know great teams.
You know, packers in thoseyears were just back and forth.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know great teams you know that was one of them,
definitely.
What about Francis?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Ouimet Good one that's there Beat Harry Varden
in all the pros.
Us Open 1913, kevin.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Lyon yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, for those unaware, francis Ouimet was
essentially a week before the1913 US Open.
He was a caddy.
Yeah, that's it, he was a caddy.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, that's it, he was a caddy and he's like, well,
I'm gonna play and he won, hewon you know that would be.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
That'd be the equivalent modern day of you
know somebody, um uh, yeah, justbeing pulled.
Random person pulled from thestands who knows a thing or two
about golf and can hit the ballpretty well, winning the us open
ain't gonna happen.
Uh-uh, not anymore uh, yeah, doyou want to guess?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I'm, since you're on a roll uh, let's see, oh, the
miracle mets the bats are onthere.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yes, they were.
Yeah, 1969.
Miracle mets tom seaver yep tomseaver.
Um north carolina state NetsTom Seaver Yep Tom Seaver.
North Carolina State UH, PhiSlamma Jamma, NCAA basketball
1983.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Dude, I remember Derek Whittington at the buzzer
and he missed the shot.
But Lorenzo Charles was rightthere to slam at home.
They asked Lorenzo Charlesafter the game what'd you think
about winning the nationalchampionship with your slam dunk
goes.
That's my only two points ofthe game.
I didn't contribute.
That's what he said.
Yeah, what?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
it's like the two points, yeah, yeah, where you'll
never have to eat in thatcollege town and pay for your
meal in that college town again.
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, that wasamazing.
Um, and then two years, twoyears later, villanova over
Georgetown.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, big Ed Pinckney going up against Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Patrick Ewing and they had Graham Michael Graham
on that team.
That team was loaded too, thatGeorgetown team.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
What about that one time that the Washington
Generals beat the HarlemGlobetrotters?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Never happened.
Never happened.
1,984 and 0.
Can you imagine being one ofthe Washington General players
just in the locker room beforeGuys?
I think this is our night.
I'm feeling something here.

(45:12):
I just think something's goingto happen here tonight.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, I'm feeling it.
Sit down, just thinksomething's going to happen here
tonight.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, I'm feeling it.
Sit down, white boy Sit down.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, but I can't remember.
I can't believe I didn'tremember that one because that
was huge.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Kev, they're calling the Giants a helmet catch over
the Patriots.
You know when Eli Manning David.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Tyree.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, that was the up to that point.
The Patriots, includingplayoffs, were like 19-0, 18-0
or something like that Uh-huh,and the Dolphins fans, who had
the only perfect season in 1973,were sweating and then the
Giants got them.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yep, yep, I remember it and the Giants got them.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yep, yep.
I remember it Also UT versusUSC in that 2005 NCAA football
championship Vince Young, VinceYoung.
That was an upset.
That was an upset because USCheavily favored to win.
They had the two most recentHeisman Trophy winners on that
team.
Lionel and.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Reggie Bush yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So they call that one of the great upsets.
Oh, all right, vince Young didon his own.
I don't know if you rememberthis one.
I do.
Appalachian State beat Michiganat the Big House in 2007 in
football.
I remember, I do remember thatthat was a Division I AA team
beating one of the storiedprograms in the history of NCAA

(46:39):
football at their own place.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, argentina over the U S men's basketball team
2004 Olympics.
Yeah, I mean, we had DwayneWade LeBron, we had Tim Duncan
Iverson.
I mean that was embarrassing asfuck Really yeah, that was
embarrassing.
They, they, you know what theydid for the next one in 2008.
They got kobe on the team andkobe turned that thing around of

(47:05):
course yeah, kobe, kobe was all.
But when they got there at thecamp the first day, kobe had
been working out, uh, since 4 amand he looked at all these
these guys lebron, duane, wade,all of them go.
We ain't fucking going homewith silver there you go we,
you're, you guys, each and everyone of you are putting it with
it and they, they put in thework oh well, yeah, you're not

(47:29):
gonna not put in the work peopleput in the work with joe, with
Jordan.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
You know, jordan and Kobe were so similar in attitude
and drive that it just becameinfectious yeah, yeah, yeah, I
love that man.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
There's a.
There was a, I think it was onNetflix.
There was a documentary aboutthat team and I just it, just it
just reiterates the kind of guyKobe was.
You know, he was just like no,because they were out partying
that night before.
They just got into camp andwent to the, you know, went to
the hotel, checked in and theywere all drinking and everything

(48:03):
like that.
They.
They start walking in from thenight out and they see kobe in
the weight room at the hotel andthey're like.
And he saw him coming in and hegoes motherfuckers, we are not
getting silver.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
So straighten your shit out now.
Yeah, I love that.
That's a great story it is.
You have the first PatriotsSuper Bowl over the greatest
show on turf, the St Louis Rams.
It was up there.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Yeah, rams, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that was up there.
They're also calling BillieJean King over Bobby Riggs.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, one would think , but I mean, the further we get
away from that, it just seemslike it's less of an upset now
than it was back then.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well, I don't know if you heard.
Did you hear what McEnroe said?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
And he got some heat for it.
Mcenroe went on record sayinghey, serena williams, great
tennis player, the greatestwomen's tennis player of all
time, just an absolute fuckingmonster.
Um, but even at her apex shewouldn't be able to beat the
700th ranked men really yes Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I would think I might disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I yeah, I think 700,.
I think he was trying to make apoint.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Right, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Cause it was all part of this.
You know biological menshouldn't be playing with women
and shit, but I think youprobably, she probably could
have taken out, you know, on agood day, anybody outside the
top 50?
.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Maybe top 100.
Top 100, okay, yeah, I'd saytop 100.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
And I know there's a lot of people who don't
understand science and biologythat may be listening to this
and maybe all like, but it is afact and I'll give you what I
try to lay out.
When we talk about, you know,uh, biological males playing
against women.
You have 1999.

(50:08):
I'm doing a morning radio showin knoxville, tennessee yes
knoxville, tennessee, home ofwhat major university.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
The University of Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Correct the Vols.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
At that time, you remember that Pat Summitt was
running one of the great femalecollege basketball programs in
history.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I believe she's the greatest female college coach,
basketball coach, in history.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I think Gino may have gotten her.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm not sure.
Ariyama from Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I think Gino may have gottenher from UConn.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
But anyway we're going.
My radio partner and I we'retaking a tour of the campus.
We were really close with theUT sports program.
The athletic director justloved us and no, as as you know,
kev the Vols football coach atthe time, phil.

(51:04):
Homer his, his girls, hisdaughters listened to us every
morning, or fans of the show,Right.
So I had some really goodaccess and we had actually had a
a tour given to us by one ofthe female basketball players.
Her name is Tamika Catchings.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
No, I never heard of her.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, you haven't.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
No, I have.
She's one of the greatest ofall time.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
One of the greatest female basketball players of all
time, the daughter of HarveyCatchings, milwaukee Bucks.
Just an incredible player.
She would go on to a storiedWNBA career Just goofing around
her, and I decided to play alittle one-on-one.
It was being egged on by myfemale radio partner at the time

(51:51):
, kev.
This was a period of time Kevinand I had taken a break and
weren't doing Mornings.
The Other it was a couple ofyears span.
So, uh, I played a one-on-onewith tamika catchings and at the
time I'm 31 years old, um, but,you know, not in the shape I
like to be in.
But, as you know and can attestto kev, I have some basketball

(52:14):
skills yes, he does grew up inindiana grew up in indiana used
to be able to don't get about uh, uh just below elbow over the
rim and used to have some niceTomahawks and shit like that
when I'd get breakaways.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Uh, I beat Tamika catchings in a game to 11.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Really, and it caused didn't I tell you, I've never
told you about this.
I have not heard this.
No it that.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
No it it caused like shock waves.
And I'm trying my partner'sfreaking out she went back to
the stations, was talking aboutit on the air, just freaking out
that I had beat tamikacatchings and I'm just trying to
say, hey, I'm a guy yeah youknow, I know how to leverage my

(52:58):
body.
I'm an athletic guy.
I got some, still have someleap in me, still was able to
get up a little bit.
I wasn't thunder dunking atthat time, at 31 years old, but
I could still grab the rim andpull on it.
I know how to shoot and I knowhow to.
When I get some momentum and Iget hot, I know how to drain

(53:19):
them.
So why is this such a hugeshock?
It shouldn't be.
I'm a guy with some skillset,you know.
Sure, I mean probably seven outof 10,.
Uh, by one to 11 points, shewould beat me.
She just caught me on one ofthe one of the three.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, when you get hot, you get hot.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Exactly, exactly, and that's all that was, and it you
know, and that's the reality ofit.
So, mcenroe, mcenroe may havebeen a little bit, uh, you know,
outlandish with the 700 Frankguy, but you are right, calf, uh
, number 97, uh is going to wax.
Serena Williams.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Well, here's the thing with mackinrow, you got to
remember.
He just says stuff to becontroversial, which, in a sport
like tennis that doesn't havethe following that it used to,
because they don't have therivalries anymore.
Uh, he's just trying to drum upbusiness for his sport I love
it.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah, I mean, I've always loved mackinrow, kevin,
oh yeah, uh, you know still tothis day, and I think we've
talked about this recently, that1981 Wimbledon with Bjorn Borg
is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Right, that's what I just said.
With the rivalries I mean BjornBorg, boris Becker, mcenroe,
jimmy Connors, I mean those guysYvonne Lendl, pete Sampras
those are rivalries that youjust don't have anymore.
Don't forget Agassi.
Oh my God, how did I forget him?
Yeah, michael Chang, yeah, yeah, so yeah.

(54:51):
But I mean, in the men's side,you had Rafael Nadal, you had
Djokovic and you had RogerFederer.
Outside of that, who else?
And the women?
They don't have any rivalries.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Well, cam, I remember Martina Navratilova and Chris
Everett.
Yeah, that was a great rivalryto watch and I got to be honest
with you.
I loved it when Serena andVenus yeah paired up with each
other and yeah, who's the onethat got stabbed, hingis?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Monica Sellis.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Sellis, yeah Sellis.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, she was good.
Oh, yes, she was, she was good.
But yeah, I mean, I mean,that's just a reality thing.
It's unfortunate that peopleare so brainwashed by idiots
with an agenda on TV that theycan't fully comprehend that,
that they don't want to fullycomprehend it.
It's just basic science and youknow.

(55:50):
The, the look, the look-seetest is all you need.
You know.
Sure, yeah for sure, um, youknow.
That being said, there are somefemale athletes that can bring
it in a big way.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I'll tell you this right now I would never want to
piss off Ronda Rousey.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
No, no.
Former UFC champion, now WWE, Ibelieve, or unless she's
retired from that, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Because within two seconds she can have you on the
ground in an arm bar and saying,hey, next time you don't take
the last sip of orange juice andjust put their container in the
refrigerator.
I'm snapping it.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Yep, yep, she'll tear that arm right off.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I mean right off.
She has the power to quicklyput you on the ground in an arm
bar.
She has the power to quicklyput you on the ground and an arm
bar and your right arm andability to do anything with it
for the remainder of your lifeis in her hands.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Oh, here's something, though, while we're talking
about this, tim, do you realize?
70 years ago, 70 years ago, thefirst sub four minute marathon,
sub four minute mile, was runby a man.
They're now saying they're nowsaying that 70 years later, it's

(57:09):
just on the horizon where thefirst woman to run a sub four
will have it.
That's the difference, you knowa 70 year gender gap.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So 70 years from now?
Okay, I get it.
Okay, I get it.
Wow, that's crazy.
I mean how close.
What is the fastest woman mile?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I don't know.
I don't know, but JakobIngebrigtsen just ran a 345 the
other day.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
That's insane, oh my God.
For those unaware you know, amile is four laps around the
track and field.
Right, four laps, right.
Yeah, it's four laps yeah.
So he's doing those things in56 seconds apiece.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, in under one minute each lap.
That is nutty.
Just for reference, my fastestone time around the lap is 82
seconds.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
That's crazy.
Like almost a minute and a half, yeah, still, I mean that's
real good.
How old were you when you didthat?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
36.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah that's good, that's a good number.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, oh, I was happy with it.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's still regardless.
Even though it's like almostdouble world record, it's still
top five percentile on planetEarth.
You know, sure yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
But just for reference is all that was.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
That's crazy.
Okay, so 40 years.
Okay, so let me see they'resaying you know we had some of
the first dunks in the late 50s,so we're going to get like a
lot of female dunking going onin the late 20s.
There are some who can dunk.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah well, whatever that new unrivaled basketball
league is, they just had theirfirst female dunk the other day.
It was Brittany Griner.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know we britney griner
dunked in high school here inhouston, kev.
I know I remember everybodyfreaked the fuck out, you know,
yes, yeah, and she's like um,I'm six five.
Uh, it's not that big of a deal, right?
Um, please, please, leave mealone.

(59:24):
Yeah, I would like to go backto prison now and be left alone
I was getting ready to say shewanted to be left alone.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
So bad, she ran to russia that's funny.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
What was that?
Oh, that was a drug thing,wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
yeah, uh uh marijuana oil wow they.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
They put her in prison for marijuana oil.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Well, I don't think they put her in prison for that.
I mean, that was the charge,but I think they put her in
prison because she was awell-known American and they
wanted to make a point, or elsethey wanted to negotiate people
that they wanted to get out onour end.
I don't think.
I think that was politicalTotally.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
That's bananas, man, I'd be so fucking pissed off.
Yeah, Wouldn't you know you'resitting there in prison,
Somebody a murderer's going hey,what are you in for?
God dang oil.
Yeah, I got.
I got a container in my luggage, a little bottle, and it has a

(01:00:19):
leaf on it.
So they got a little pissed off.
Don't kill me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
So, but yeah, that's what that was about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
All right, kev.
What else is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
That is about all that I think I drummed up for
you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Okay, excellent episode.
As usual, always a fun timevinklein seamless episode.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
It was just crazy how we were just conversing and
just one thing flowed intoanother I love it, kevin, so
easy it is to do, to do thisshit with you, and so fun well,
when you have the chemistry thatwe have, you can't which can't
be manufactured.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
You're gonna get shit like this yeah, yeah, you know,
we, we, we have a battle planlike every week, and sometimes
we cover one or two things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
We got everything covered.
It was, it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
I love it.
I love it.
Good stuff, um, and if youappreciate, um, uh, our podcast
and and again, if you'relistening to this right now,
thank you, uh, for coming to thetable and listening to us.
Uh, on whatever podcastplatform you're on or whatever,
if you're watching us on YouTube, do us a favor though, like
follow, download our stuff.

(01:01:28):
We need download numbers.
We need you to subscribe.
Give us a rating.
We'd really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
You're the math guy and I want to get your quick.
So this is our 50.
What episode?
53rd, 53rd.
We just hit our 7,500thdownload, so what's the average
there?
That's pretty good, that'sreally good yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
All right.
Well, thank you very much y'allfor doing that.
75 divided by 50, cav.
Yeah all for for uh doing that.
Uh, 75 divided by 50 cav, yeah,is 100 divided by 15 000, one,
150 per episode.
Okay, that's nice, we'll take it, we need it to grow, but yeah,

(01:02:16):
that's, that's nice um, andagain, I know you know what what
they say is and what I've readis for every person that
downloads your episode, there's15 or 20 that just press play
and don't download it.
For those of you who just pressplay, do us a favor and go
ahead and download it, even ifit's just this one time.

(01:02:37):
We want to check it out.
Just download it right now onyour phone.
You can take, you can take itoff later, a couple weeks from
now, or whatever.
Do whatever you need to do, butwe need actual downloads
instead of press plays.
Yeah, everybody I talk to kevinyeah, play, press play, press
play.
I'm like, oh, download it,download it, download it yeah,

(01:02:57):
yeah, yep, I know also, uh,check us out on social media.
Uh, we have instagram title andclient all you gotta do
t-u-t-t-l-e-a-n-d.
Actually the uh and the signand and then client, k-l-i-i-n-e
.
Uh, we have tiktok.
We have instagram, we havefacebook, we have merchandise on
facebook.
So we would appreciate yoursupport, anything you can do in

(01:03:19):
terms of liking and following us, subscribing, giving us a
download or a rating.
Kevin Klein, it has beenfantastic, as usual.
Same here, bud.
Have yourself a great, greatweek, my brother, you too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
See you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Klein Show
.
See you this Wednesday for anall new episode, and thanks for
listening to the Tuttle KleinShow.
Yo, all right, take the yo out.
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