Ep #54: Funeral Plans and Inflatable Body Parts: A Candid Conversation

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Reflections on Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti album turning 50 years old

Kline shares about his father-in-law's recent passing & military service in Vietnam

Southwest Airlines abandoning their "Bags Fly Free" policy

Supersonic travel might return with 90-minute New York to London flights

NFLs expensive free agent signings and contract negotiations

The increasingly problematic behavior of parents at youth sporting events

Revelations about the strange world of extreme music performances

Air guitar championships featuring intense commentators and competitors

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
welcome to the Tuttle and Klein show going with some
Stapleton sweetest strawberrywine.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
That guy's got the voice.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Man, I'm telling you one of the best uh Super Bowl,
uh uh National Anthemperformances.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Remember that a few years ago.
Oh yeah, he murdered that.
That was amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, he did Nice shirt pal.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
If I could take one of my own.
Oh Zeppelin, yeah yeah, got myZepp.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Physical graffiti 50 years this year.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It was last week, I believe, the actual release date
.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yep, I can't even believe that's 50 years because
I remember um um some neighbors.
It was one of one of my earliermemories, calf.
This is you know.
Oh, I'm six years old yeah, yeah, right and one of my neighbors,
uh was, was running down the uhstreet going I got it, I got it

(01:04):
, I got it.
He ran in the house and he, Igot it, I got it, I got it, and
he ran in the house and hecranked it, and just a bunch of
us younger ones, you know, wholoved Zeppelin, you know, we
love the sound of Zeppelin.
We're just sitting outside andhe would actually have the
window up and the screen, justthe screen, so we could hear it.
Cool, isn't that cool?
That is very cool and I just Iremember to this day when I

(01:28):
heard in the light it, just it,it touched me, it like it, like
did something to me.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I was like god, that is awesome it was cashmere, was
I mean it's cliche, right,because that's the biggest hit
off of that album, right?
I just love, I love that song.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, oh, cashmere, he played that like a bunch of
times in a row and Kev.
This was on vinyl.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, no, I had it on vinyl.
It was a two disc.
Do you still have it?
No, no, I gave away all myvinyl when we moved.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh, yeah, yeah, because Audrey got a record
player uh from uh her future, uhmother and father-in-law.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
And you know, she, she whipped out one of the first
vinyls I ever owned on my own.
You're not not, you know, not ahand-me-down, um, cheap trick.
Buddha can, oh nice, and I waslike put it on.
Ain't that a shame?
You know, with the, with thedrum, or the drum intro and
everything like that, yeah,ain't that a shame.

(02:30):
My tears fall.
I played that thousands becauseyou know, I remember that this
is my first record.
Oh my god, it's mine, it's justme.
I bought, you know it's mine,and you know I, I just I played
that song for some reason, likethousands of times.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So that was the first piece of recorded music you
ever bought with your own money,with my own money.
Yes, yeah, mine was the Beth 45from Kiss.
Was it Casablanca Records,buddy?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Beth, I hear you calling and I can't come home
right now.
You know, one thing I'm intoand I think I've told you this
before so I didn't have it on myrabbit hole list for this week
is I love watching reactionsthat people have when they first
hear songs.
You know, stairway to Heavenwas a big one that I was into.

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Another one is Creep byRadiohead.
When people first hear thatsong, tennessee whiskey, which I
just did, you know a littlepiece of right there.
And another one was beth, andyou know nobody can nobody can
believe.
You know the younger generationcannot believe that came from
the makeup.
Uh, monsters, uh, yes, they'relike I.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I can't even believe this song is a kiss, though
right, yeah, the same peoplethat brought you detroit rock
city.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Call them, and dr love you know, yeah yeah,
strutter and licking, I reallylike my limousine.
You like the way the wheelsroll, you like my seven inch
leather heel and go and shoot toall of the shows.
But do you love me?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yes, man, it's like we're at concert right now.
Shut your mouth, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I got to learn how to sing man.
I just got to because I waswatching the female reactions to
Tennessee whiskey.
Yeah, and they're just.
I was like man, like man.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I gotta learn how to sing man really does james
hetfield really know how to sing?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
oh my god, and that was another one is uh, they were
watching, uh, inner sandmanfrom the moscow concert in 91
remember that that, yeah,incredible concert.
And they're just like, oh mygod, he's not the, he's not the
best looking guy, but the way hejust stands there and stalks
and stuff like that, it's socool.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, no, he was.
He's a great front man and he'sactually gotten better singing
over the years.
But man, those first couplealbums Kill Em All and Ride the
Lightning, couldn't sing a lick.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I just got to be.
I got to find three goodmusicians that are OK with me
being kind of marginal in termsof the singing, but I got the
stage presence.
Okay with me being kind ofmarginal in terms of the singing
, but I got the stage presence.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I was just getting ready to say man, david Lee Roth
was there because of his stagepresence.
You would have definitely havestage presence.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh, I would, Kev, I would be pulling out all of the
stops.
Hell yeah, and you know, thecrowd banter, the crowd work,
that's my number one thing.
The crowd work man, you knowthat.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Exactly, it's an hour and a half long concert and
they're only going to play threesongs.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
You know Exactly Timmy's going to spill the rest,
I know.
And then, after the last song,here's my out, kev, here's my
out.
I came here for two reasons Oneto play my songs and two, to
eat pussy.
And now I'm all out of songs.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Good night.
Good night, oh my God, that'sfunny, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can you imagine just that?
That's it.
You know that'd be like a cool,like parody band.
You know like spinal tap orsomething like that.
Yeah, you know just a parodyband just to give.
We're just, we're just out herelike like more making you laugh
than entertaining you withmusic.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That would just be a great exit right there.
It would be phenomenal.
Even if you weren't, even ifyou were trying to be a
legitimate band, that would be agreat.
That'd be a great exit.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, don't steal that, Cause.
I thought about that when I wasdoing cardio.
I was like, cause I'm havingit's rumbling around in my head,
man, I there, it's rumblingaround in my head, man.
There's things as you come tothat turn in your life where
it's like, hey man, how much doI have left?
And I was like I have to.
Just I did my comedy a year ago, stand-up comedy.

(06:58):
That was great.
Check that off the list.
I loved it.
It was a beautiful experience.
I'm glad I did it.
Now I just want to play in aband, man, yeah, and I want to
be the lead singer.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
You should Very charismatic Great front person.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, but I can't sing dude.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Doesn't matter.
Yeah, you're right, I meanBrian Johnson, ACDC.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, how hard is that?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
well, I, don't know, let's hear it.
No, I I promise anybody that'slistening to this uh episode
right here right now.
I will not sing for the rest ofthe time, I promise.
I know a lot of people are justlike oh, do I hit this button?
Do I hit this button?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
yeah, they're hitting it now because they're not
going to get any entertainmentvalue.
Great Way to go, tuttle Way tokill the show.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'm so sorry.
Hey, Kev, I did not know andagain I think we got to get into
this.
I'm completely off the grid, Idon't watch news, I don't really
do too much on social media atall and I had no idea that until
this morning that you had apassing in the family.
I'm so sorry man.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Thanks, buddy.
It's been a pretty rough lastfive days with the Klein-Snyder
clan because my father-in-lawdied last week.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, and I know you really revered him and had a,
you know, a soft spot in yourheart for him.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh, he's a.
Uh, he's a United States warhero.
Uh, there's no question aboutit.
Um, as a matter of fact, a guythat he served with at the
frontline of Vietnam has becomea major general with the United
States Marine Corps, and Iinterviewed him because he wrote
a book called darker than dark.
Um, that talks about myfather-in-law's heroic
achievements over in Vietnam,and he said if Kenny Snyder

(08:42):
wasn't on this planet, hewouldn't be on this planet
because he saved so many lives.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
What kind of shit did he do?
I mean, can you tell anystories of some of the things he
did, or is that?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I don't know, because he never really talked
about it, but let me just tellyou this, tim, he was a sniper
for the United States MarineCorps in Vietnam, so I think you
can deduce just simply by that.
I know that half of his platoonwas killed.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
No shit.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
He carried his best friend, his absolute best friend
, carried him off of thebattlefield in two pieces, split
at the waist.
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's tough man.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
So but yeah, we, I saw him not this past Saturday
but the Saturday before.
So two Saturdays ago we saw himat the college hockey game the
last one of the season.
Trish texted him on Sunday gota reply.
Texted him on Monday morninggot a reply.
Texted him Monday evening noreply.
Talked to his brother every dayon the phone who lives in Ohio

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Didn't get a return call.
Brother didn't get a returncall on Tuesday, didn't get a
return call on Wednesday.
So he called Springfield PoliceDepartment for a welfare check.
And I had just gotten in thecar from a run on Thursday
morning and Trish had calledthree times and I was like oh no
.
So I called her and I'm likewhat's going on?

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And she's like I'm over atdad's house and they just did a
welfare check and he's dead.
But yeah, I mean it was.
So he died probably Mondayevening and he died in his
favorite chair listening to theradio, beer in hand.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh well, how bad is that?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
then, well, the police officers who responded
first came back out and saidwe're very sorry, and you know,
trish was like.
Well, what do you thinkhappened?
And they said he did not sufferat all.
There was no pain.
To look on his face, there's no, he just it was a widow maker,
wow Okay.
It was a heart attack.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they're, that's what they're thinking.
Uh, mother-in-law doesn't wantto do an autopsy.

(10:51):
Uh, and the time has passed,he's already in a, he's already
in a box.
Uh, and we, we bury him, mom,today.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Oh yeah, I'm so sorry , kev.
I'm so sorry, but hey man.
Oh yeah, I'm so sorry, kev.
I'm so sorry, but hey man, howold was he?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
He was three days away from his 78th birthday.
Man again for me, my sweet spot.
If I can go, 77 to 83, that'sall I want.
Yeah, yeah.
So and you know, in talking tohis former platoon mate who
became a major general, he gotextra years man.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
More than anybody over there.
He got extra years, you know,and obviously you know we'll
miss him.
I get to be one of the peoplethat eulogizes him at the
funeral, but you know there willbe things we miss for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, I bet, and you'll, you'll, you'll nail
that one, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh, I already wrote it.
You know, I already wrote it.
So you know, is it gold?
You got gold.
Well, I I'm going to take adifferent angle than what
probably his brother and what mybrother and sister-in-law will
do.
I'm going to talk about theside of of Kenneth Paul Snyder
that nobody saw, because henever wanted you to see it.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh, cool, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
So all right, all right, I love it, but the man
the man's favorite word was fuckand oh no, no, no, seriously,
dude, and I would count everylike when there were
conversations.
I would count how many times,and the record was 27.
In a three minute phoneconversation Now, remember a
three minute phone conversationthe other person's talking about

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half of the time, so you'retalking about 27 bucks in 90
seconds.
That's impressive.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
That is very impressive.
Yeah, right, I am.
Uh, yeah, yeah, that thatthat's, that's three every 10
seconds man I know, and that wasa light day well to to you, uh,
mr snyder, fucking a, fucking a, fucking a.

(13:01):
Yeah, um, all right, kevin,what?
Um, since we're on it uh, youknow me being left out of the.
Oh, what did you?
Fucking A?
Fucking A?
Yeah, all right, kev, sincewe're on it, you know me being
left out of the.
Oh, what did you have?
Did you have something else?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I know that you were going to talk about the things
that you have missed.
Did you hear?
The big news this morning isthat Southwest Airlines is now
going to start charging forbaggage.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You're kidding.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
What got them there?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, they're now owned by a private equity firm
and they say that they're notbeing able to compete with the
other bigs because they don'tmake 1.5 to $5 billion a year on
baggage fees.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Wow, okay.
Well, I mean, that was a thingthat distinguished them from
others.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Tim, they actually have bags.
Fly free trademarked.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, well, piss that out the window.
You see how it is.
You get new owners in.
They fuck everything up.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, here's the thing.
And you're a you're a money guy.
Internally.
They've been talking about thisfor years internally and they
said that internally they did aresearch study.
They will make $1.5 billion offthe baggage fees, but the
people who are not going to flythem anymore, they will lose

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$1.8 billion.
So they're actually going tolose what?
300 million?
It's stupid, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's dumb.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, so I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
It just pisses everybody off.
You got to be careful when youprice things because once you go
to a certain mark in terms of aprice point, you lose X amount
of business as your price goesup, and you should be able to

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know.
You should have people in, youknow some, some of the math guys
in there, that will tell youwith each dollar that we, we
lose this much, and they shouldbe able to find you the optimal
price on something where you canmake the most revenue.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah well, but they're saying now it it, it
completely doesn't.
There's no differentiationbetween Southwest and the other
majors.
So a lot of people who onlyflew Southwest for bags fly free
.
Now we'll start looking at theother airlines because of
different schedules and all thatkind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yep, there it is Uncool.
Okay, what else is happening?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
In South Carolina a woman fell down a 16 foot well
that was infested with snakes.
Wow, Yep, how long was she downthere.
They're not saying how long ittook to rescue her, but they
actually had to manufacture apulley system, the fire
department and lower a firerescue worker down and pull her

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up.
And they actually have picturesof some of the snakes that the
fire chief was very, very funny.
Some of the snakes tried tohelp with the extraction of the
woman.
Their help was unneeded andthey're beheaded.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's funny, were they poisonous snakes.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, did she get bit?
It doesn't?
I don't, I don't know.
It doesn't look like they werepoisonous.
It looked like they were kindof just like black snakes and
rat snakes and stuff, but justimagine.
I mean, that's so Indiana Jones, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh yeah, first off, you fell into a well, second off
, you're stuck in there withsnakes.
I mean, at that point you'relike what else could happen to
that?
Right?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
That is so many people's worst nightmare.
You're claustrophobic numberone.
You.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, that's, that's terrible.
Ok, well, I mean nothing butsunshine and lollipops from her
going forward, right.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's right.
Did you see the viral video ofthe Virginia State High School
track relay championships?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
No, but I'd heard, was there a fight or something
like that?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
No, some girl goes to pass.
A girl goes to pass on theoutside and the girl on the
inside raises her baton andstrikes her in the head, knocks
her out, gives her a concussionand a possible skull fracture.
You're kidding?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
no, no, here's the video, right here just as kaylin
is passing the other runner,the athlete swings her baton,
striking kaylin now, that doesnot look accidental to me yeah,
there there's some uhdeep-seated stuff, are they,
boyfriend?
There's, usually it's a lovetriangle, is that you know?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
no it it was.
Uh.
Well, the girl who hit her hitthe other girl says that, uh, it
was completely inadvertent.
The girl was passing too closeto her, got in front of her, but
when you are running a relay,your, your baton never goes
above your shoulders, correct?
Yes, this girl's baton wentabove her head.
And then she strikes the othergirl in the head.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's a bit much.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
A little bit.
I'm not buying the accidental.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
No, no.
After perusing right there, I'dhave to say there is some kind
of backstory that we don't knowabout.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, very true.
And then I should havedovetailed this on the Southwest
Airlines.
We are now very close to having90-minute flights from New York
to London.
Wow, yep, the son of Concordelast week actually broke the
sound barrier and there was nosonic boom heard on the ground.

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You know, that's the wholeproblem.
Yeah, yeah, is the sonic boomabove.
When it breaks the soundbarrier, it reverberates down on
the ground.
So what they've been trying todo is get these supersonic
speeds without the sonic boomregistering on terra firma.
Guess what it happened?
Can you imagine that?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean that's that's, that's nutty.
So half hour from like, houstonto New York or something like
that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Maybe even under.
I mean, you're talking aboutgoing across the Atlantic in 90
minutes.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, dude, I see this as a big cost savings for
Southwest Airlines, because nowthey won't have to serve you
shit cost savings for SouthwestAirlines because now they won't
have to serve you shit.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You're right, there you go.
Yeah motherfuckers those cheapbastards.
But I'm imagining that ticketsare going to be quite costly on
something like that.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, yeah, but you're still going to have to
pay extra for your fuckingbaggage.
Yeah Right.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
But would they really need to be as costly?
Because you're going to be ableto do more flights per day,
wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Uh, kev, they'll figure out a way to make sure
that it costs more money.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, you know how it is.
You'll see oil prices drop likecrazy, but it takes a long time
for you to reflect that at thepump.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, and I still remember years ago when we had
an oil shortage or the price ofoil was higher or whatever, and
then it dropped and I rememberthe oil companies going well,
we're going to keep the gasprices the same because we want
the consumer like used to itbeing high.
We don't want to.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Fuck you.
Yeah, no, the longer you keepit high and then you can drop it
a little bit or like, oh wow,what a savings.
But they've already, you knowyou're already paying more than
what you would have if it wouldhave been normal.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, of course they have that executive
meeting from yacht number seven,right.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Fuck you.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
What else is happening?
Kevin Kline.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's about all I mean.
You saw all the free agentwheelings and dealings in the
NFL right.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm aware of those.
Again, it's just shocking.
You know, at least as of now,the day after they opened it up,
the Dallas Cowboys did nothing,they do nothing, not a thing.
And you know, you got to givecredit to, you know, teams like
the Patriots and you know, andthey're making moves to stock up

(20:57):
.
I mean, you've got to givecredit.
There are certain teams thatare just like, hey, man, we're
going to do something here.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you think Seattle getting rid of Geno Smith and
bringing in Sam Darnold isn'tthat kind of a wash?
I didn't think either one ofthem were that great.
Yeah, the reason they did thatkev is gino was wanting that 45
to 50 mil dog range okay andthey're just like well, no,
we'll just get white gino andand pay like uh, you know uh 40

(21:26):
off of that do you, uh, do youfind it crazy and kind of funny
about the, about face that miles, garrett, did you know that was
?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
that was so funny Cause I remember him.
I was watching him on on radiorow at the super bowl.
He was going from show to showand he's.
It's not about the money I wantto win, it's not about the
money at all.
Please stop.
And you know he, you know youturn around.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Ah well, it's about money.
Yes, became the, became thehighest paid non-quarterback in
nfl history, signing a 40million dollar per year contract
that uh will take him fromcleveland to canton is what
they're calling it.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, uh, here's the thing yeah uh, which, by the way
, is not that far of a drive.
They're calling it yeah uh.
Here's the thing.
Yeah uh, which, by the way, isnot that far of a drive.
They're right, not at all.
Yeah uh.
Um, here's the thing with theuh, with the cleveland uh browns
, what do the other 31 teamsthink of these motherfuckers?
A few years ago they blew themarket away and screwed

(22:32):
everything up with the deshaunWatson ridiculous fiasco
contract, right.
And now you know, you got JamarChase in Cincinnati.
He's pretty much promised thathe was going to be the highest
paid non quarterback in history.
And you got Micah Parsons inDallas and they're all going
well.
The market's been reset.
You know the other.

(22:52):
The other 31 teams probablyjust hate the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh well, they're probably not real happy with the
Buffalo Bills either.
What do they do?
Well, they signed Josh AllenSix years, 330 mil, 250 of which
guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, see, now here's where.
And Kev, I've told you this foryears and years and years Once
they get this big bag, they juststart to suck.
They don't give a fuck anymoreman.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, my thing is has he ever won a championship?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, no, oh, he's an impressive player.
He's got skills.
But is he a winner?
I mean, you know there are twoquarterbacks that have every
tool necessary, uh, but can'twin the big one.
Lamar jackson, josh allen, yep,and both of them are
extraordinarily wealthy men oh,they're the two highest paid

(23:43):
quarterbacks in the league I, Ithink kevin here.
Here's what I think it should be.
You know, like if, if thenumber now is 60 million a year,
here's what they should do isokay, we're going to keep the
quarterback salaries in aboutthe $30 million a year range,
the top 10, 12 of you, and thenwhoever wins the Super Bowl gets

(24:06):
the other 30 million.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
But remember and I think about this quite often
when I see these staggeringcontract owners aren't going to
lose money.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
No, no, no, no, no.
The TV revenues are off thecharts.
Kev and the Players Association, the union they've got a deal
where they get an X percent, theplayers get X percent of the
revenue, and that's why, whenyou see these salaries
skyrocketing, it just shows howmuch money the NFL is making.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Exactly that's what I was going for.
That's what I was getting readyto say.
I'm like owners don't losemoney, they're shrewd business
people.
And when you I saw a breakdownTim the least wealthiest owner
in all of NFL football is liquid900 million.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, 900 million.
Yeah, you know, once you own afootball team, I mean it
appreciates so much every singleyear that there's nothing
really you can do to fuck it upand lose money.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, that's why Tom Brady is a is an owner now.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, you just met.
Your bottom line just explodesand continues to go up and up
and up.
I mean, the only way that youcan do better than that is to be
a a Congressman that doesinside information.
You fucking criminals.
Every one of you are a fuckingcriminal.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know, that kind of leads me to my top three this
week.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher.
It's Tuttle Klein's top three.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Top three industries, companies or people that you
absolutely hate.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean, you know me, the axis of evil.
I mean the axis of evil who aretrying to destroy civilization,
the upper echelon billionairesnot all of them, but most of
them.
You know Soros and everythinglike that.
I fucking hate Alex Soros,george Soros, those are Bill

(26:05):
Gates, these are evilmotherfuckers with nefarious
agendas.
Can't stand them.
I don't know, I can't say thatI would even be able to maintain
control if I was ever in thesame room with them.
Really, I would go off.
I would just go off, youfucking evil.
Because, kev, I don't go bymainstream media.
I read what these people write.

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I read the transcripts of thethings that they say in
interviews and they talk veryopenly about how we are a virus
and they're into eugenics andjust want us gone and want us
under control.
Fuck you guys.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
You billionaire fucks Do you think they have security
?
They have to dude.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinkingtoo.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
They have to.
They put themselves out theretoo much and they've been
exposed.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean one of the nicest people walking the planet
, and we can say thisunequivocally because we've met
her several times.
Taylor Swift has security.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, you have, you have to.
I mean, you got it.
Yeah, without a doubt, numbertwo, kev.
I would probably have to sayyou know, I just said the
mainstream media.
I would probably have to say,you know, I just said it
mainstream media.
Okay, the propaganda is justridiculous.
I mean, just shock the worldone time and speak the truth.
You know, forget about what'swritten on the teleprompter that

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you all just regurgitate.
You know the narrative that youall regurgitate and, just for
one time, shoot it straight withthe people.
You've been lying so fuckinglong, every single day.
I don't even think they'recapable of doing it.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't think they know what's true and what's not
anymore.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
They just I mean it's just ridiculous.
I mean it's you know, and Kev,I know a lot of people like,
well, tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline.
For nearly 30 years you twowere part of the media too.
Yeah, that's why we know.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
That's how we know.
It's all bullshit.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, yep, and number three.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
What was the top three?
Again, what was the question?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Industries, companies or people you hate.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Groups of of people, not individuals let me see
billionaires with nefariousagendas.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Mainstream oh shit, chicago bears because he's a
packer fan yeah, his chicagobears can fuck off but wouldn't
you put also Minnesota andDetroit in there?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
not as much as the Bears, and that's I.
You know, I obviously they'rein the division and you know
their rivals and everything likethat, but I I don't know what
it is Kev, ever since I was alittle kid in the in the 70s,
you know, being a Packers fan, Imean just something about the
bears, you know, and that thatprobably is from my dad, that

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that probably you know.
He just I don't like the bears.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
And it could also be longevity of teams, because
there's some of there are two ofthe originals, you know.
I mean you talk about Detroitand you talk about Minnesota.
I think they were add on teams,yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Now, that being said, kev, I think it's good for the
NFL if they don't suck.
Oh, absolutely yeah, I wouldlike to see them more
competitive.
You know, I'd like them tomaybe even flip situations with
Detroit or Minnesota wherethey're more successful.
You know, yeah, because it'sbetter for the NFL, better for

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the game if they, if they don'tsuck well, they have themselves
a new coach and, uh, ben johnson, I believe, is the new coach.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
He was the offensive coordinator for detroit.
They say he's going to workreally, really well with caleb
williams, their quarterback.
So who knows?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
yeah, not only that, though, but I don't know if
you've seen the maneuvers thatthey've done over the past week,
but they've gotten some seriousoffensive line help.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, they got Joe Tooney from the from the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
They got two others too.
I can't remember the specificson it, but they're loading up on
the line because they know thatwith Caleb they and, and, and
Johnson.
Ben Johnson will teach Calebhey man, two and a half seconds,
throw the fucking ball.
I mean that that.
That's the biggest thing in theNFL for a quarterback.
Is you're?
You're in shotgun calf, andthen from shotgun, you take your

(30:20):
three step back by the time youplant your foot on that third
step.
The ball's got to go somewhere.
Yeah, you don't got time.
That's that.
That's how Brady did it, that'show Manning did it and you know
, uh, they also were good at umgoing down.
You know, after that, you knowgetting in the fetal position,

(30:44):
protecting yourself so you don'tget injured, right?
I mean, I, I've been, I've beenreally studying uh, manning and
uh and and Brady and they werejust the best at it.
You know, two and a halfseconds ball's gone.
I'm getting uh it.
You know two and a half secondsball's gone.
I'm getting uh.
You know they're coming in onme.
The pocket is muddy andeverything.
I'm just gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
They don't take big hits and you know, the
interesting thing about both ofthose players is all that
information that they'regathering is not on the playing
field, it's in the, it's in thefilm room oh, totally they, they
.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
they know when they step up to the line of scrimmage
and they look at the coverage,they know their primary guy.
And the funny thing is like,say, it's the guy on the right
that's going to run a postpattern, they'll actually be
looking left to throw the safetyoff.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know they'll throw the safety off by looking
left the whole time and the lastsecond.
You know two and a half seconds, boom, they go right.
There you go, and Benson willteach uh caleb that.
And they're loading up on theoffensive line and kevin, mark
my words right here their firstpick in the draft will be ashton
genti, the near heisman trophywinning running back from uh

(31:46):
idaho state.
And they'll be scary because hewould he kevin?
I don't know if you watchedashton gentry or even know who
I'm talking about right now.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
He is Marshawn Lynch, the next incarnation of it, oh
wow.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Marshawn Lynch could play.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, yeah.
So the Bears scare me.
Now they scare me.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, I mean look what we saw this year with
Philadelphia.
They go out and get SaquonBarkley who runs for 2,000-plus
yards and I mean you just take alot of pressure off your
quarterback.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, but that's you know, it's so funny, we're going
to go from air raid, we'regoing to go.
You know the cycle is now okayrunning game and defense,
running game and defense.
And that's from Philadelphia,the success from Philadelphia.
And you look at all the topteams, they all had running
games Yep that's true.
It's now the really top teamshad running games and defense.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, defense wins you championships.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yes, it does.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, Kev, it's control of the line of scrimmage on
both sides that wins youchampionships.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And that's how I would always be as a general.
You know me, Kev.
I've told you this before If Iwas a general manager, I would
never pay the big contract.
I'd be like, oh, he's squawkingthat.
He wants, you know, five years,250 million.
Well, what can we get for him?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Let's try to get two good players right now and three
draft picks and send them.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, no, Timmy's always subscribed to the kind of
Bill Belichick method ofgeneral managing.
Get rid of them during theirpeak.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, get what you can for them, continuously
reload, and you never have toeat those big contracts and
you're always getting newprospects and new players in
Young blood.
That's what I would do.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's what I would.
I would never pay top of themarket Kev, never, no.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's what you would .
You would have more money thanthe rest of them.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Retails are for pussies.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Retail is for pussies , is that?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
a Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross line.
No, I just threw that right in.
All right, what are your top?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
three Kev.
My top three the concertindustry.
Fucking fees.
What kind of a fee can youincur by sending me an email
with my tickets in it?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
yeah, that's that's greed, that's bullshit.
How much?
How much is it now?
Do I even want to know?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
oh well, uh well, concert tickets in and of
themselves just face value areoutrageous, you know, I mean, I
wanted to go see, uh, I wantedto go see, uh, nine inch nails
in denver, 215 bucks, and that'snot even for prime seats.
Yeah, and then on top of thatyou're probably going to get
socked for about $30 worth offees, a handling fee, a

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ticketing fee for what An email?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
That's just so.
I know that's terrible Dicks.
How many fucking yachts do youneed?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Again, jeff.
Again you're reverting back tomy other one, the billionaires.
Yeah Well, didn't Ticketmasterhad to pay a hefty civil lawsuit
fee for their fees and stufflike that?
I don't see any of it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, let me tell you and again, we've talked about
this in the past If we ever gopost-apocalypse, have civil
unrest and go post-apocalypsesituation, if you are a ticket
master executive, do notidentify yourself to the other
people Again, you will bebarbecued that evening.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Uh-huh, Insurance agents, insurance companies
would be next in line for me.
They're taking your money andnot paying your.
You know what I'm saying.
You know you have a caraccident and they're trying any
way, shape or form, not to paywhat you've paid into them.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
No, no, but they're going to pay Patrick Mahomes and
Andy Reid, and you know.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I remember that you know I was goofing, you know,
back when I had, uh, uh, what isit?
The hurricane?
What was that?
What was the last hurricane wehad?
I can't even remember, uh, andyou know I had the tornado
outside of our place in eastbernard and they were getting a
little twitchy about it and Iwas just like you're paying
fucking aaron rogers, you knowto do commercials, motherfuckers

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, you better come up with acheck.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
And I think they set up word.
You know that this guy's goingto talk shit about us on the
radio.
Let's cut him a check, becausethey did.
Yeah, they took care of it.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, your local agent took care of it.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
But they were getting a little squirrely about it.
Man, of course, yeah, yeah,because that's their job.
Their job is what can we notpay?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's right, so we can make sure that Patrick
Mahomes doesn't live in squalor.
Yeah, yeah, he's got someworries there.
$500 million.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, Now who else you?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
got Kev what we originally started talking about
the airline industries.
I mean, come on man, how manydifferent ways do you want to
screw your customer?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I know Kev.
It just reminds me of why arewe not Jetsons yet and have our
own little flying vehicles.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, probably because the airline industries
are so rich that they quash it.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
That and Kev.
I get a look at my neighborssometimes and I always sometimes
think do I want thatmotherfucker having a flying car
?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, but you know why Texas doesn't have legalized
gambling, don't you?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Because other states lobby our own legislators to
make sure that the money staysin Louisiana and Oklahoma, yeah,
yeah.
Our own Texas state.
Politicians are fucking corrupt, pieces of shit.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
There you go, yep.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
That's why you don't have it, because Louisiana and
Oklahoma pay so much money tokeep it out of Texas is a
legislator in state of Texasthat receives a penny from an

(37:52):
outside state entity that fucksTexans should immediately just
be run out of the state Gone.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It is very anti-Texan on many levels.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
You sold yourself, you sold out.
You're a piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, what's the vibe been in Houston Since the
passing of Sylvester Turner?
I didn't even know he died.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh, you didn't.
No, sylvester Turner died.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, the day after the Joint speech to Congress.
What.
Yeah, he was a senator.
He took over Sheila Jackson Lee.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, sylvester died last week.
Wow, 76, 77 years old, I thinkno shit.

(38:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
No, he wasn't a senator, he was Congress.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Congress.
Okay, yeah, but he took SheilaJackson Lee's chair.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I had no idea, Gosh.
The thing I remember most aboutSylvester Turner is his love
for the fireman.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, yeah, he was a big backer of the fireman.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
That and Kev.
You remember, like three weeksinto COVID, back in 2020, we had
him on the phone and he wastalking about the mask mandate.
And I said to him Mr Mayor, behonest, you continue with this

(39:23):
mask mandate because you've seenus in person and want radio
people wearing masks everywherethey go.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
And he laughed his ass off.
Yeah, he did yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Okay, well, I did not know that.
So who's going to be thecongressperson right now?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
That I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know ifthey have to appoint somebody or
if they have to elect somebody.
I do not know.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I think somebody appoints somebody or something
like that.
So that's your three, right?
That's no, I think that I thinksomebody appoints somebody or
something like that.
So yeah, so that's your three.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
right, that's my three, sir, that is my three.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Hey, I got to tell you this and I know you're tight
with your father-in-law'sfuneral, so if I'm running long,
just cut me off, ok no, no, no,we're good, we're good.
I had a neighbor that wascracking up at last week's
episode and I just wanted totell you about it.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
It was a funny episode, man.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, yeah, a bunch of great stuff, including he was
laughing because you know he'sa former Marine, okay, and he
was laughing at, you know, thedrill instructors trying to
teach you how to shoot.
And he said, he said Timmy, hesaid the visual in my head as

(40:27):
I'm listening to this is KevinKlein, you know, being taught by
Marine drill instructors andspecialists how to shoot.
He just thought of like a MontyPython, like skit.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It almost was.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
He just sees Kevin.
He actually, like, shoots adrill instructor.
Oh, I'm sorry I shot you, I'vekilled another and the drill
instructor I'm not dead yet.
Just wait a moment.
I suck so bad.
Yeah, he just had that visualof him and I were riffing about

(41:04):
how funny that would be.
I suck so bad.
Yeah, he just had that visualof him and I were riffing about
how funny that would be.
A Kevin Kline, monty Pythonlearning how to shoot skit.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, you know, when my father-in-law came back from
Vietnam, he became a marksmaninstructor at Parris Island.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Well, wait a minute.
And that doesn't make sense tome, Kev, because here he's your
father-in-law, and even at thattime, if I remember correctly,
this was what?
2002 that we were at ParrisIsland somewhere around there,
and you had been married toTrish at that time for at least
six years.
How come he had?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
never taught you how to shoot.
He never knew.
I didn't know how.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Exactly, it's shocking, you know it's shocking
, that somebody's never held afirearm in their hand.
Don't know, I don't know.
It's just weird, it was weird.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh, when we got back from Paris Island, the US Marine
Recruit Depot, and he found outthat I couldn't hit a target,
he said he was going to teach mehow to shoot.
So that Christmas when we camehome he took me out back and
gave me a shotgun and said hitthe barn.
And I missed it with a fuckingshotgun.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
You missed the barn with a shotgun.
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
What did you do?
Did you pull up or somethinglike that?
I anticipate the kick, okay,you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
No, but he was so pissed off, oh my god, did you.
And then did you do like what,uh, what the uh police academy
uh guy did, and just hand itback to the instructor.
I'm done, I quit.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
no, I said uh, he said I don't even know why I let
you marry my daughter and Isaid, well, please don't get it
in an old sir.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, jesus man.
And again, I know a lot ofpeople are listening right now
and go.
Well, how does Kevin protecthis wife?
If there's ever a home invader,she will do the protecting.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Oh, she's the one that answers the door.
Oh yeah, All the time.
Yeah, that's the doorbell honey, go get it.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Does she shoot at all ?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
She can shoot.
She, we don't.
She doesn't, but she can.
Yeah, no, that was two thingsthat my father-in-law demanded
that the kids know an instrumentand how to protect themselves
with weaponry?

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah, but the reason you don't have a gun in the
house is because Kevin isbipolar and he would just try to
shoot himself like all the time.
I mean, she would literallyhave to be walking.
You know, can't leave you alonein a room for two seconds.
Are you trying to shootyourself again, honey, stop it.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I don't know where she put the knives now, yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Put that clock away.
Everything's okay.
Stop.
We've got neighbors coming overfor the cookout and I do not
want to be cleaning the carpetof your blood, so stop.
Okay, Maybe later.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
This too shall pass.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
This too shall pass.
Exactly.
That's funny as shit.
I thought you'd get a kick outof that, though Him and I were
riffing on a monique python skityeah, that's great oh yeah, kev
, um, I, I wanted to tell youthis, I I I had when, back in
the 90s, before I even met youand before you know, uh, you

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know, I was living on my own inNashville for a couple of years
and I actually umpired baseball,okay, and I kind of rather
enjoyed it.
I liked it, yeah.
So I was thinking aboutumpiring Little League again,
nice and I actually reached outto the league down the road here

(44:46):
and I went to meet with thedirector of umpiring Very cool
and I decided immediately that Iwould not be umpiring.
Why is that?
Because while I'm out there atthe fields talking to the
director of of umpiring, I'mnoticing the parents and kev.

(45:08):
They were so negative and soangry and just so out of line.
I mean, it's actually 10 timesworse now than it was 15 years
ago when audrey was, you know,playing softball at Rose rich.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, oh, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I I.
I just I was like you, fuckingpeople.
You and it just reminded me ofwhat I've told you in the past
is coaching or umpiring.
Baseball or softball would bethe greatest job in the world If
it weren't for the fuckingparents.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's what teachers say to.
Teaching would be one of themost enjoyable career and
professions If it weren't forthe parents.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, I mean and this is coming from me there were,
there are times that I was alittle bit out of line and I
have some regrets about it, butI was never as bad as what I saw
on the field last week.
It was just, it's just, it'sjust bad.
You know you're, you're.

(46:08):
Here's the thing Kev, your kidis more likely 50 to 100% less
talented than you fucking thinkthey are.
You know you automatically havethis thing where you think
they're they're not, cause youknow I'm watching a kid and he,

(46:30):
you know he's, he's strugglinggoing left, struggling going
right.
If he gets a ground ballstraight to him, he's fine, but
you know he has struggle movingand you know the the, the coach,
you know, puts them in theoutfield after watching that for
a while at second base and Ijust hear the mom go Billy is
just, he's not getting thechance here.
This is just terrible.

(46:53):
The coach is overlooking himand I'm just like, oh, and that
was just one of many differentthings that I saw that.
I'm just like, yeah, I've hadthe director of umpire, he's
emailed me over the last and Ijust I told him I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, well, here's the thing too.
Uh, parents, if you do do that,you are probably taking at
least 75% of the joy out of thegame for the kid.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Your kid picks up on that.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Your kid picks up on that.
Yeah, I it was.
It was sad because I, I, Iliked being at the ball ballpark
and I enjoyed being an umpireand I actually enjoyed, you know
, at least within the team ofcoaching back in the day.
But the bad news, kev, I don'tthink I'll ever ever coach or
umpire youth sports again.

(47:40):
I won't do it.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's a shame, because you and I both like to
teach uh kids how to play, youknow, and and it is why isn't my
son getting to play enough?
Why is he sitting at the benchduring for three innings?
Well, because everybody else isplaying, yeah yeah, it's only
so many, yeah, only so manyplayers you can get on the field
because, because your kid, itdoesn't really want to be here.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
He would rather be home playing video games.
But he's here because you wanthim here.
That's right, anyway.
The good news, though, is Ifeel so much better concerning
any of the terrorists that mayhave come over the border during
the Biden administration.

(48:23):
Well, how so and why?
I feel like little league momswould mop them up.
Hey, hey, hey, muhammad, yourdiabolical plan may have worked
until you ran into a group ofmoms who have just been told
that their little league sonsdidn't make all stars this year,

(48:45):
who have just been told thattheir little league sons didn't
make all-stars this year, you'redone.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
That's an angry lot right there, kev Indeed, indeed.
Well, dude, how about whathappened in Dallas just last
week at the NationalCheerleading Competition
Championships?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Wait a minute.
Are we having more Texascheerleader problems?
I remember that was a big deal20, 30 years ago.
Is that still a thing?
Parents fighting each otherwhat?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, at a cheerleading competition, how
does this happen?
You're spreading cheer andthey're fighting Cheer.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Not jeer, cheer, not jeer.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yes, not fear Cheer yeah, they didn't get the memo
man do we know what spurred thison what happened?
I don't.
I just saw the footage.
Well, it had to be evacuated,the place had to be evacuated
and they thought there wereshots fired, but it wasn't.

(49:47):
It was just parents fighting.
Are you serious if you have toevacuate a competition because
of fighting?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I, I don't understand that.
I, I just don't.
I.
Where's the argument?
Where's the argument?
There is, they can throw mylittle girl higher.
Why aren't they throwing her?
Oh, my god, it's so obviousthat angie has put on some
pounds.
They're not getting the launchthat they used to.

(50:16):
I mean, what is going on, man?
How is there even an issue?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I don't know, because people live.
Parents live vicariouslythrough their kids.
Yeah, you know, a lot of themdo.
My dad did it, son of a gun.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, damn it.
I'm so sorry, kid.
Hey, do we have time?
Can we talk about rabbit holes?
Do we have time?
Can we talk about rabbit?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
holes.
Do we have time?
Yeah, because I do have a coolrabbit hole, but I also have a
story I want to share with you.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Please start with the story.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Okay, well, last week I was approached by a musician
friend of mine, james Baker fromRorschach Test, and he wanted
to do something for March, whichis National Women's History
Month, and so he thought itwould be cool if I interviewed
the bass player for RorschachTest, who's a female, and his
wife, and also Jen, the leadsinger from Jenna Torturers,

(51:11):
which is a band that I've seenthree times Now I'll see you
four times in April to talkabout women in heavy metal music
.
It's cool, okay, but I so Iinterviewed them and it's it
actually posted on the fuzzy mic, uh, just today.
Um, and I asked Jen, becauseJenna torturers came about
because they wanted to dogenital torture, okay, and

(51:32):
that's, and she goes.
Hey, my name's Jen.
So I thought Jenna torturers,that'd be a cool.
And so they literally dopiercings and bondage and stuff
like that on stage.
And I said what's the craziestthing that ever happened to you
on stage?
And she goes.
Well, it didn't happen to me.
She said the CEO of the companywhose scalpels and needles we
use on stage came to one of ourshows in a rubber suit with a

(51:55):
rubber kilt on, and he came upto the stage and he wanted to
have scrotal inflation done tohim.
I'm like what she's like?
Yeah, you know, we put a needlein his ball sack and then we
inflated it to the size of avolleyball.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
What.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I know right, and he's walking around at the show
with a volleyball size scrotumin between his legs underneath
his rubber kilt.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
This is a bizarre world that I just can't
comprehend.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I can't either, and I've been to three of their
shows and I've seen shit thatthey do on stage and I just
can't see a guy walking up thereand putting a needle in his
nutsack and then expanding it tothe size of a volleyball.
Yeah, yeah, I uh, if you wantto hear more about that?
Go to the fuzzy mic.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Oh, you, do you have this.
Do you have this?
Uh, do we have a new episode offuzzy mic?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, it's just this one-off episode because I, you
know, I they wanted me to shareit on Facebook and we do talk a
little bit about mental health.
Uh, but yeah, and we do talk alittle bit about mental health.
But yeah, I mean, you're ballsack inflated.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, I'm very perplexed for two reasons in
regards to that story.
One is the inflation of thescrotum.
Two is that March has beendeclared National Women's Month.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
National Women's History Month, yeah declared
national women's month.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
National women's history month.
Yeah, okay, I thought it wasjust women's, because I was
gonna say man, I got news foryou every fucking month is
national women's month that's sotrue, trust me.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
but how about that, you know, like, because she, she
made it a point to say he's theCEO of the company and I'm like
man, you know, and and when youfind out about who goes to uh,
bdsm, uh practitioners and stuff, it is a lot of times leaders
of companies and leaders ofinstitutions.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Definitely Kev.
I mean uh, the, the, the.
You gotta remember, remembermost of the CEOs, leaders of
companies, you know, governmentleaders, everything like that.
They're sociopaths with somecray cray in them.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Well, what Jen said is that the majority of them
come in because they're so tiredof being said yes to and
they're so tired of just lordingover people that they want to
find out what it's like forpeople to push back on them ah,
I got it okay you know, yeah,they need, they need some kind
something to offset it.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Yeah, yeah, that was like the mood, the uh, the tv
show billions, um, wheregiamatti, paul giamatti, great,
great.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Love him.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
His character was just this over-top prosecutor,
just a total fucking dick.
You know, control freak overthe top.
But he was BDSM and he liked tobe pushed around.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
There you go.
Yeah, but at what point doesthe CEO say you know what?
I've lorded over so many people?
I think as retribution, Ishould have air pushed into my
balls.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Wait, how can I profit off of this?
I know We'll charge anybodywith big balls extra for baggage
.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Well, it is extra baggage, it's a sack.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
All right, tell me about.
Let's go into rabbit holes.
Rabbit hole of the week.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
You were talking about being a front man for a
band earlier in this episode.
Well, timmy, I found thecompetition for you.
It was on ESPN Ocho.
Okay yeah, tim, I watched threehours of it in this episode.
Well, timmy, I found thecompetition for you, it was on
espn ocho okay, yeah, tim, Iwatched three hours of it

(56:06):
fucking air guitar worldchampionships.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
It's so bad dude oh, I, I, kev, I, I.
I'm afraid to put that onbecause I won't be able to stop.
It's just so fucking lame.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It really is man.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
I mean to me anybody doing air guitar for more than I
mean.
If you do it, you know, justbecause you're riffing with a
song.
If you do it for a few seconds,that's one thing.
If you're up there performingany more than half of a song,
you're a fucking tool you gottawatch it, though, because you
gotta hear the commentators.
It's it's so best in show sothe commentators, they're in on

(56:52):
it, they have to be in on it.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, they have to be .
They're so they're.
It's so deadpan in there.
Oh my gosh, I've never seen anair guitar being thrown up into
the air flip like that andcaught.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Yeah I'm so glad that he's wearing the wristbands,
because obviously the sweatwould just be destroying his
ability to play that axe dudethat is, they do wear sweatpants
and stuff and they docommentate on it.
Oh my, God, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You have to watch it.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Okay, I will, I will.
What is that?
Uh, I just, I just couldYouTube, uh, air guitar contest.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, air guitar.
National championships or worldchampionships, they have them
every year.
The world championships areheld over in Finland.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I fucking love that man, okay, I'm into it.
Over in finland.
I fucking love that man, okay,I'm into it.
Um, I don't know about threehours though, kev.
After about two hours you'relike, hey man, you go look in
the mirror in the bathroom andgo do I have my life together?
it's addictive brother okay, um,kev, I crawled down a rabbit
hole and, um, it's kind of kindof surprising that I did this

(57:57):
again, because I was in thisrabbit hole when I was in
college.
When I was in college, I readthe book Helter Skelter at least
four or five times.
That, of course, is about theManson family and the
Tate-LaBianca murders as writtenby Vincent Bugliosi, the
district attorney that got theconviction on Charles Manson and

(58:19):
the rest of the family in LosAngeles late 60s, early 70s.
And the reason, kev, I wentdown the rabbit hole is because
I watched this documentary thatI didn't even know was out there
.
It's a documentary calledManson and it's told from Linda

(58:39):
Kasabian's point of view.
Now, she, of course, was a starwitness, she was there both
nights, she didn't participatein any of the murders.
She was either, you know,driving or keeping lookout or
outside or whatever.
But it was told basically playby play and that's an angle that
we never really got is the playby play, you know, minute by

(58:59):
minute, both nights, which I wasjust fascinated by.
So I got into that and then,you know, I started, okay, I got
to look up more what else youknow, you know, since my college
days is updated and some of itis really crazy, like Tom
O'Neill, a journalist wrote abook about it you know did an

(59:21):
updated book, you know, probablyabout 15 years ago and he
interviewed Bugliosi andeverybody else like that and
some of the stuff he came upwith you know, first off coming
up with and confirming thatCharles Manson was a CIA MKUltra
guy.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Really.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, he was Charles Manson would do something to go
to jail.
This is in the years leading upto the Manson murders, the
Tate-LaBianca murders.
He would go to jail and thenhe's always being let out
because CIA would come in andsay the Tate-LaBianca murders,
he would go to jail.
And then he's always being letout Because you know, cia would

(01:00:03):
come in and say, yeah, thisguy's a subject, test subject,
let him out.
You know, and Tom O'Neillinterviewed all of these wardens
and district attorneys andeverything like that, just
saying hey, it's above our paygrade.
You know, the man wants CharlesManson out in the streets.
So he kept, he kept being letout.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, he had a lengthy rap sheet, no question
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Yeah, but he's constantly just let out Wow,
that's one thing.
Another thing and this BoogalooOC got comfortable with Tom
O'Neill and, and you know,didn't realize that, you know,
forgot that they were recordingand he basically uh said that.
And did you ever hear aboutthis yourself?

(01:00:43):
That the police were goingthrough, uh, roman polanski and
sharon tate's place.
You know, in the days after themurders they were going through
everything you know, lookingfor some clues and everything
like that.
And roman polanski, sharontate's wife, of course, a big
time director, well-knowndirector had some, some films,

(01:01:04):
some movies that they watched.
Every one of them and one ofthem is is Polanski, is
recording his wife, sharon Tate,being unwillingly raped by two
other guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Well, he was in exile for the longest time for child
pornography, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Well, no, he had sex with a 13-year-old yeah that's
it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
That's it.
I knew he had a child.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Yeah he can't come to America because he escaped
prosecution on that.
As soon as anybody in theUnited States knows he's there,
he will be arrested and sent toLos Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah.
So yeah, isn't that crazy didyou ever hear about that?
No, no, but that's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
That's warped man man , is that crazy or what that?
That that uh, you know,polanski was just that crazy
that that nutty.
So, initially, and you know,until a couple months later when
they started, uh, you know,putting it together from sadie
hawkins in jail.
You know, uh, not sadie hawkins, sadie uh atkins, susan atkins,

(01:02:03):
susan atkins, you know shethat's what broke the case open
and she was bragging inside ofuh women's jail.
Uh, and somebody just went tosomebody and said the uh, this
lady said she's the one thatkilled sharonate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
And she was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But until that broke three or four months after the
murders they were thinkingPolanski, because he was just
such a freak and a creep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
So in this documentary then, with Manson
being CIA, was Helter Skelterhis idea, or was it the CIA's
idea that he was just trying toenact?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Well, again, all the notes from the CIA.
They're not there and they denyany of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Because Helter Skelter was supposed to be a
race war.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
I have.
The whole Helter Skelter thingis a subterfuge.
It's bullshit.
And Bugliosi was going to sueO'Neill because he was coming to
that conclusion.
You know he was going to say,don't, do not put this in your
book, I will sue you to andwrote a 38 page Fuck you to him
and his publisher saying he'sgoing to sue everything moving

(01:03:10):
If certain things are in thebook which they just said.
Well, fuck you, old man, we'reputting in the book.
Oh wow, fuck you, old man, we'reputting in the book.
Oh, wow, yeah, uh, because wegot it on.
You know you, we were we gotyour recorded voice, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Hey, did you know that?
Uh, because I just read thisthis morning that manson, when
he died, uh, there was a battleover his body, so they put it on
ice for like 18 months yeah,yeah, I heard about that.
That's crazy who would wantthat?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I don't know, man.
I mean, it's so weird If you're, it's almost like you have to
make plans to make sure shit isdone right, If you're like in a
weird position in life.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Uh huh.
My father in law made plansyears ago that will be enacted
today.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
What kind of plans?
What do you?
What's he doing?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
No, no funeral, you know, no service.
Basically, we're all meetingover at the funeral parlor.
He's already been put in a box.
He did not want to be embalmed.
We take him over to theVeterans Cemetery.
Here we're being escorted bythe Patriot Guard riders and
then we'll have a 15-minutesession there there, and then

(01:04:19):
everybody's going out for drinksafterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
That's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
That's what he wanted no pictures, no pictures.
No open casket.
No embalming, no flowers.
Because, as he said, what thefuck am I going to do with
flowers?
I'm fucking gone, Plus I neverliked them anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
You got to water them and you got to trim them.
Fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
So, yeah, that's what's happening All right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Well, kev, I think it's time.
Yeah, you got to get going andI got to try to find a
profitable trade here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I hope you do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Let's go ahead and wrap this up right now.
I've been great talking to you.
Please do me a favor, since I'mjust learning about it this
morning.
Send on my condolences to Trish.
I feel awful.
That's terrible.
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah Well, we didn't tell a whole lot of people and
it's not like I'm going to callyou and go.
Oh, hey, guess what happened.
Hey, are you having a good day?

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Well, guess what?
My father-in-law's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You know well, when I got the news from Trish, she
was bawling on the other end ofthe phone and I mean, I was sad
about my father-in-law,obviously, but I just felt
helpless.
I just called my mom and I wasbawling.
I'm like I don't know what todo, cause Trish is the hard one
in the family, you know, she's.
She's the one that props me upall the time, and here I am the
one having to prop her up andI'm like I don't know what to do

(01:05:42):
.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah, yeah it's, it's a tough situation and and and
let me tell you this, kev, donot feel bad whatsoever for
telling me, not not telling meabout it.
We have this thing, you and I,where we just don't tell each
other when somebody dies, wedon't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
All right, man, I got to run.
Have a good one, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
That's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein
show.
See you this Wednesday for anall new episode, and thanks for
listening to the Tuttle andKlein show.
Yo, all right, take the yo out.