Cops Talk First Amendment Auditors

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Speaker 3 (01:24):
Is it me being too loud, or is it you?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, it's my YouTube channel.
I have to mute it and I can'tfind it.
I don't want to hear my ownecho.
No, no, no, no.
There we go.
Okay, now we're good to go.
Sorry, y'all um trying to getall this crap worked out looking

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and there's quite a few alreadyon here going live man yeah is
it like it?
give me a second?
I am, I'm working off a littlescreen, so you got to give me.
Have a little patience with me.
I am still on my military timey'all, so I am trying to.
Thomas Holbrook, are you guyslosing your minds already?

(02:15):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It didn't take much.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, let me get .
I know, let's get back to it.
Welcome to Two Cops.
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I'm your host, eric Levine, andwith me is my
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I sit with Alan.
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How are you buddy?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
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Speaker 4 (03:20):
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Rick Smith said I feel detained with this delay.
That is the shirt.
That's not it.
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And somebody, oh, patrickTruelove, he bought a membership
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Let's see Level one.
Hey, hey, hey, y'all, yes, evenbaby face Levine, listen, my
man, makeup had to get taken offbecause of military regulations

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I could be one of those guysthat's like oh, I need a shaving
waiver.
Let me go to the doctor and geta doctor to say I have bumps.
But that's not in me.
By the way, y'all, I took my PTtest at 42 years old scored a
96 on my military PT test, soyour boy still got it.
Tonight I am drinking some SmokeWagon.

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I hope you all areparticipating in a little bit of
adult beverages while we havefun tonight.
Now, typically, what we like todo on here is we like to have
some topics to talk about andlet people get logged in, kind
of see that we're on andbullshitting and see what our
audience out there is saying,what they want to talk about,

(05:08):
things they want to bring up Mein particular.
I got a message tonight and Ishared it with our team, our Two
Cops, one Donut team.
Alan, what did you think ofthat?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
that I, I, you know I just anymore, I read them with
a just uh.
I don't really give them thethe attention they deserve,
maybe sometimes because they'rejust so far off, and but we
generally don't get those on thelaw enforcement side, and you

(05:41):
know, that's what right, I getthem.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I get them, but they're always like um, I don't
want to say they're chicken,shit comments.
That's not what I mean.
What I mean is they're tryingto like, feel me out, like, hey
man, are you sure you shouldhave posted that one like that
makes you know, are you sure youshould have done that?
Well, in this case I'm notgoing to say the person's name,

(06:06):
and what really disappoints mein the message itself was there
was no like hey, what did youmean by this?
What did you do?
So I posted a video that wentpretty viral.
I'm saying, on our Instagram,we got nearly 3 million views, I
think.
On our YouTube, we got nearly amillion views on this one video
and it isn't anything special.
Million views, I think.
On our youtube, we got nearly amillion views on this one video
and it's, it isn't anythingspecial.

(06:27):
It's a dude that flick, flipsoff, flicks off.
However you guys say it, um,flips off, uh, a police officer.
The officer goes and pulls himover.
Officer's very cordial, he'sbeing polite, but he admits to
basically illegally stopping thecar, saying he pulled him over
because he gave him the finger,and then he tries to use this.
You know it's an illegal handsignal or whatever.

(06:50):
Supreme Court ruled that.
That is not a thing Like.
That's freedom of speech.
They're allowed to do that.
You can't be offended as a cop.
So if you've seen that video,you guys know which one I'm
talking about.
We have it pinned on ourInstagram just because it was so
popular, so I just put it upthere.
But I'll read the message soyou guys can see what I read

(07:13):
today.
That kind of stuck me in the guta little bit, bro.
No way you had to say about thelawsuit at the end of the video
with the middle finger.
I was with you until you saidthat, bro, I'm disappointed.
Like it actually hurts inside.
You fueled the rage, bro.
You fueled the hate because ofmoney.

(07:33):
Now you are giving all thepeople that think they are right
because of fake social mediaposts that they don't give all
the facts of misled officersgetting hurt and killed because
of that behavior.
That's on you now.
And even worse, you stabbedyour bros in the back.
To self-promote.
You changed over for a fewInstagram likes and views.

(07:57):
I sent this to my entire PD andcounty deputies.
Not one supports you.
I think a lot of us were withyou until that part, you made
the job harder.
It's not your place to call outand offer money to them.
That's why there is such anincrease in this behavior.
Most of these videos are wrong,but you put the dollar signs on

(08:21):
it, you sold out, you did theultimate betrayal, you broke the
blue line and then it goes onto say shocked bro, you never
get that trust back again.
Blood's on you, seriously, it'son you, so that's like yeah,
damn.
I didn't look at it that way, solet's explore that a little bit

(08:44):
.
I, at the end of the video,tell the guy hey, your mic just
changed sound.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, like you're in a different like all
of a sudden it got like realweird sounding.
There it goes, it's back Test,test, maybe it's the connection.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
What do you know.
I touched the cord a little bit, fixed it, so.
So the at the end of the videowhat I say is you know, enjoy
your free lawsuit, because thathe I don't really think I'm
giving any trade secrets away.
It's literally what that guyprobably was out there to do.

(09:26):
Now, in that, I'm just curiouswhat y'all are thinking out in
the crowd there I see NicoleMcKendry.
We literally had the same thingin Arizona or Arkansas Happened
years ago to my old department.
We were told exactly what youjust said Cops can't be offended
.
It's also an ego thing too, Ibelieve.

(09:48):
I believe you are right.
I also think it's an ego thing.
Now, as far as blood being onmy hands.
My response was basically youknow, I'm sorry, you felt that
way.
I wish you would have reachedout to me and maybe I could have
explained it more.
So I'm going to go into alittle more detail about exactly
what I meant.
That is a First Amendment,protected right with Supreme

(10:13):
Court ruling.
Now the ruling I'm actuallygoing to look it up real quick
because I can never.
It's a Michigan case, SupremeCourt ruling on Middlefinger,
Michigan.
I'll type it in that way.
It is a Michigan woman.

(10:33):
What's the case?
What is the case?
What is the case?
Finding it?
Guys Finding it, Stand by.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Standing by.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Stand by.
It is Deborah Cruz Goulas.
I'm going to type it in Standby.
Stand by.
It is Debra Cruz Goulis.
I'm going to type it in thechat.
Steve Wallace in the house.
I always got to say hi, steve.
Steve's got the same sign onevery time.
So it's Debra Cruz-.
Goulis, goulias, goulias,goulias, thatoulias, goulias.

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That's the court case.
I'm not sure.
I think it's V Menard, maybe.
So that's the Supreme Courtcase on the middle finger
towards police officers intraffic.
And is what it isrison brockfifty dollars oh, snap, oh, and

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it came with a guy riding arocket.
Thank you, harrison brock.
Much appreciated sir.
Guys, we still do not know.
We still don't know what thedeal with the membership thing
is.
If somebody gifts a fewmemberships at the beginning,
inevitably it cuts it off.
We don't know why.
I have checked the settings.
I just checked the settingsagain today, not sure why that's

(11:55):
going.
You're getting a little, yeah,yeah.
Yeah, I see it, it's a guyriding a rocket baby.
I like that.
We show it because the peoplethat are on LinkedIn and other
places they don't get to see it.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's what.
That was the sound it startedplaying when I pressed it and I
was like no turn the sound down,gotcha yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So I don't like the argument that that is not
against the thin blue line.
That's for First Amendmentrights.
I'm sorry that they can sue you.
Literally that's what they'lldo.
Some of them, some of the FirstAmendment auditors that are out
there purely for money, and Idon't see how that brings any
violence towards cops.

(12:40):
Matter of fact, I don't know ofone case where a first
amendment auditor got violenttowards a cop.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I've never seen that usually they all just go
silently and they're you know isthey're not baiting you.
I don't want to say it that way, but they're testing your
abilities and your knowledge ohno, they're baiting you.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, they're baiting you.
Even Long Island.
Audit all those guys.
They're not there hopingnothing happens.
I wasn't trying to rile them up.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I was trying to use kinder gentler words.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
They need the conflict to happen Now.
Where they're going to be done,where their mission is over, is
when cops just don't doanything about it anymore
because the training has finallybeen given, they finally
understand.
But there are still cops thatfall for it 2025.
They still fucking fall for it.
Which is crazy.
Listen all my cop friends thatare out there.

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Public library, public, what isit?
The mail room?

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Post office.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
At the post office that's another popular one.
Outside of banks, on a publicsidewalk In the park, at a
soccer game, like all theseplaces.
They can film.
So you need to understand.
Don't put that up.
Michelle quit.
Agreeing with Alan.
Yes, I call my mom by her firstname all the time.

(14:09):
What shotguns and tattoos sayhere?
I made a fake account.
I made a fake linkedin accountfor the one time youtube spent.
Love it, love it.
That's all that's actuallyreally.
That's good commitment.
That that is that.
That hits me in the heart.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
that's very humbling I'm so going to our.
Yeah, I was trying to click onit.
Would you quit clicking on it?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
golly well, I want to see people's comments too he
was.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So where is tim at tim's hiding?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
yeah, tim is hiding, but you can't bait good cops.
Yeah, you can't, you can't.
And and here, guys, I also wantto put this out there and some
of you are not going to like it,but some of these cops are good
cops that fall for it.
They don't.
You're only as good as yourtraining.
And here's another thing that Ilike to point out.
It's just because theConstitution says something.

(15:07):
What it says and how youpractice it in real life.
It's a hard transition.
It's a translation sometimes,because it doesn't say in the
Constitution that you have theright to pick up a video camera
and start carrying it around.
You have to translate that.
It's like any law.
That's why we have courts,because none of us can seem to

(15:28):
translate law properly.
There's always somebody thathas to make a judgment.
That's where these judges comefrom.
Guys also understand.
I am on a slow connection, so Iam doing the best that I can.
Where I'm at, I'm on Wi-Fi, soI apologize, so disrespectful

(15:50):
Eric.
Anthony, I'm not squirrelhunting with you anymore.
Yeah, my mom was staying withme when I had to drop some
assassinations on some squirrels.
They were destroying my home Didyou ever figure out what that
big?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
old hole was.
That was a squirrel.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, we had a huge hole in myhouse that ripped metal apart
and you would have thought abadger or a bear or something
broke in my house.
It was a squirrel, wow.
So let's see, patrick Truelove,not as good as your training.
It's called self-control.

(16:28):
Yeah, training, training is ishuge.
That goes.
That goes really far into whatwe're talking about and I I'm
not asking you guys to.
I'm not trying to copsplainplain.
I promise you I'm not trying tocop-splain here.
But if you guys see me freezingin and out, it's my connection.

(16:51):
I apologize.
We're trying to make do whileI'm on my military time here,
but I'm not trying to cop-splain.
The point that I'm trying to getto is translating what you've
learned in the books and inpractice.
They don't always go as easilyas you'd think.
It's no different than when yousee some of these media guys go

(17:12):
through police shoot-no-shootscenario training and they come
out and they're like, oh shit,that was so hard.
They end up shooting everybodyon every scenario.
You're like, see, it's not aseasy as you think In your head.
You got it worked out.
As easy as you think in yourhead, you got it worked out.
But when you're out there.
In practice it's just different.
So if your training is crappyand you don't have a good grasp

(17:34):
on the constitution, as it islike these are all parts and
parcels of the the trainingissues, especially if you got
one police Academy that's sixweeks and then, like my academy,
eight and a half months.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, that's a huge difference.
Well, in my department, it'snot that we don't get training,
we don't have time, for you know, we have three officers on a
shift, and when somebody's sickor somebody's on vacation, it's
just hard to get people totraining.
And so then you got to trustthem that they pay attention to
online training, which you knowthat's only as good as the

(18:11):
person that's sitting behind thecomputer, and so so to
MagDump's comment.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Eric, come on, it's been established law for 20
years.
Every one of them should knowin this day and age.
Okay, fair.
Now look at some of the townsthey're doing this in.
They've never even seen a FirstAmendment auditor.
They read that law when theywent through the academy and
they haven't touched it since.
Did you know in the state ofTexas, that you cannot paint

(18:41):
your chickens unnatural colors?
Did you know you can't haveseven or more sex toys in your
vehicle?
I did not know that one.
These are obscure laws that Ifor some reason have retained,
but if you never run across that, you don't know that law.
You may have touched on it inthe academy, but you don't

(19:02):
remember that shit.
And it's the same.
I think I'm just spitballinghere, but I think in some of
these small departments wherethey don't run across jack shit,
they haven't had a robbery intheir city in two years, three
years.
The worst thing that they haveis mrs smith's garbage can blew
over in the neighbor's yard,like that is some of the things

(19:26):
that you're seeing.
That is the part of the problem.
It's just the vast differencesin training, money and stuff
that goes into each, and I thinkit is.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I've been spending a lot of time in different parts
of the country, andy, and it'sdifferent depending on where you
are in the country to like.
There's a big difference insome of the legalese.
When I've been in Arizona a lotlately, it's amazing how much
there's.
I mean, we have a lot of thesame laws and when it comes to

(20:01):
guns and things like that, butthere's a lot of differences too
, and so what you expect to beclear and cut in one part of the
country is not that way.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, Andy Fletcher, in Maryland you can't whistle
underwater.
That's hilarious, Mr Billfoldin the house.
Oh shit, no guys, that is notFather Time.
That is the one and the onlyTim.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
How's it going?
What's up?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
buddy.
Oh, living the dream, sir.
So here's one of the thingsthat you can aspire to.
On 2Cops1Donut, you can be partof the crowd and also
participate in the show.
So we have invited many a troll, we've invited many guests,
we've invited many uh people inthe comment section.

(20:55):
Hey, if you get a mic and youget a camera, you've got the
opportunity to be on the show.
So, first person that's everpulled the trigger on that, no,
no pun intended.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Tim, what's up, buddy , Getting everything set up,
trying to get all the greenscreen stuff set up.
I probably could have justflipped on my phone and done the
same thing.
I just wanted to be on herejust to chat with you guys and
give you a little bit of myknowledge from what I've learned
over the last six years afterretiring.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Living the dream brother, Mr Bill.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Fold, so living the dream brother, mr bill folds on.
He said I fell asleep.
Typical, typical marine on post.
See, I gotta watch.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Keep it on the stream , because you got like 15
seconds of lag time behind onthe stream right to what we're
doing yes so yep, yep, it's,it's a little different, you, if
you're looking at the restreamscreen, that is, yeah, I think
quick, but it it does take aminute.
So duck ninja.

(21:54):
Dad said uh, tim beard, godwell you're.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
You got another half of it.
You gotta, you gotta, stretchsome more.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So there we go hey listen, what did you guys expect
?
Father time?
I think I love santa claus alot.
Hey, listen, what did you guysexpect?
Father.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Time to look like.
I get called Santa Claus a lot.
I don't think you're thickenough.
I'm down weight a little bit.
I only weigh about 240 pounds.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (22:18):
240?
.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Oh you, a big dude, though.
That's a man size right there,I'm not that I'm not there so
tim, before we get to videos andstuff, what this is.
This is a first for us.
So what is it that's been onyour mind?
As far as policing goes, what'sthe good, the bad, the ugly?

(22:43):
What do you want to discussthat you think us on the panel
maybe not have addressed, or youwant to.
You just want to have aconversation about, whatever.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
It is one thing that I've noticed a lot of stuff we
do that you guys have done onthe thing and I know that later
on you want to have other guestson here, like long island audit
, and I'd love to get ChiliCastro on here.
He would be a riot, I think.
But I don't do auditing now,but I've kept up with it for the

(23:12):
last six years and doing it wayback when Gavin Sime was doing
it before he took off to Mexicoand had to leave for Mexico.
I used to do it a long time agoand I just got into it.
What have you guys talked about?
As far as it, we really haven'tjumped into the first amendment
audit scene.
As far as on your guys channela lot, um, okay, give it, you'll

(23:36):
probably have an episode or twoof doing that.
That'd be cool to see.
Uh, that's what I specialize inas a first member audits and
I've learned a lot of law andtaking a lot of classes to learn
you know, to learn what I doknow, and plus, you know
watching videos and Google'sfree.
The universities are free, so,um right.

(23:57):
But back what you were sayingwith the good and the bad.
Uh, the good is you guys, I'veseen a lot of change.
Uh, you guys weren't've seen alot of change.
You guys weren't around you,matt Alan Banning, you guys
weren't there five, six yearsago when all this whole, I'd say
about six years ago, when allthis auditing stuff kicked in.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, no, sir, I was there, I was in the streets
actually, you know, sean paulmade it big right, right, that's
the long island auditor I waswondering then the cops started
showing up, like you and matt,and started saying you know what
?

Speaker 7 (24:42):
these auditors are right, but yet, like you guys
said earlier, there, theseauditors are right, but yet,
like you guys said earlier,there's some auditors that, god,
I do not need to be auditing.
They're just complete idiotsand I'm just like yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Country girl.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
What's she say?
I personally love Beards.
It's only on men, though, ohyeah.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
But back to what you were saying earlier about
baiting cops.
It's true they bait cops andthe reason I say the word bait
is because no one has an issuewhen you guys used to have the
show on called Bait Car.
No one had an issue about copscalled bait car.

(25:29):
No one had an issue about cops.
But when you look back into itit's basically yeah, you're
baiting, the only bad ones aregoing to get the bait.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
They're going to get caught and I, yeah, they've made
cops, I've 100 but okay, yeah,yeah I I don't get me started on
bait cars in general.
I'm a big fan of bait cars inareas that make sense.

(25:54):
I am not a big fan of bait carsin hard to do, low.
You know economic class areaswhere you're getting a bunch of
homeless people know economicclass areas where you're getting
a bunch of homeless people andand other people that are at the
end of the rope.
They've got, they got nothingto lose.
They're like, fuck it, this carlooks like a good opportunity.
Let me go over there and that'sthe person you want to put in

(26:14):
jail.
What are how?
Are we serving the system atall?
In that case?
I I really am not a big fan.
Oh, you got a pro mic.
Look at you, brother, greenscreen.
Yeah, so I am not a fan of baitcars.
I'm a fan if you use themappropriately, like put them in

(26:35):
a nice area and you catch youknow shitheads getting into it.
Then that are you know case andarea Like that's what we're
looking for, because those tendto be more violent.
But when you're gettinghomeless people and you're
getting you know dope addictsthat are just trying to find
their next fix, like I, I'm nota fan of that.
So it's me, it's probably alan,alan, everything that goes

(27:00):
wrong with this show is alan's,but bill is going to mr bill
foale is going to kill me.
So I can't say that if it goeswrong with this show is Allen's,
but Bill is going to Mr BillFoles is going to kill me.
So I can't say that If it goeswrong it's Allen, but as far as
First Amendment auditors go, Ido like them.
There are some I can't stand,and there's yeah, there's one in
the one in New York, have you?

Speaker 7 (27:18):
heard that dude One in New York.
He's so aggressive I wish Iknew his name.
I don't know his name.
He's so aggressive.
There are aggressive ones thatare borderline dude.
Stop, just stop, you know.
But yeah.
In the end.
I don't know of any other waythat's legal, easier and a way

(27:40):
to catch bad cops.
I mean, there's no, I don'tknow of any other legal way to
do it.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
So yeah, yeah.
Now I'll kind of if I've nevermade my stance clear before on
the First Amendment, auditors.
I think that they showed aclear gap in police training.
I think that they exposedsomething that we as police were
not aware of and it wassomething that we hadn't faced

(28:08):
before.
It's no different than gettingthe concept of getting body
cameras, the concept of gettingdash cameras We'll go back to
Rodney King, that's when dashcameras kicked off so it was a
concept that cops had just notbeen trained at, they hadn't
been exposed to, and, just likeanybody, we hate change.

(28:28):
So, when these First Amendmentorders started coming out.
They really exposed our lack ofknowledge on the law and me I'm
the type of guy I look for gapsin training.
So I was like, oh man, this ishuge, like there's, there's
something to this and I I'mpretty sure they're right, Let

(28:49):
me dig into it.
So then I start doing myhomework and I'm like, okay,
yeah, they're right, like theyhave a right to film.
So now where's the problems?
So then I started looking intowhere can they film, where can
they not film things of thatnature?
What's off limits, what's onlimits?
Like filming a cop's MDC, theirin-car computer it's legal.

(29:12):
If you would have asked me whatit's legal, but if you would
have asked me when this stufffirst started, I wouldn't have
known the answer and would haveassumed that's illegal.
But I had to find the training,I had to get educated on it,
because I didn't know.
That doesn't mean I'm going togo arrest somebody for it.
It just means like, hey, if I'mgoing to stop this guy, I need

(29:33):
to be sure that I have an actualcrime here.
So I started to do research anddig into that part.
Yes, they can film yourcomputers.
They can film anywhere theywant, as long as they're on
public property.
Now, tim, here's where I reallywant to pick your brain.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
I like what he wrote on there.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
No, matt banning yeah , yeah, they needed a spare tire
man.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
No banning, just picked me out of the back of the
truck.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yep, so I'll tell you what happened.
Matt had a date with the wife,banning had a date with the wife
.
Mosley couldn't get ababysitter, aka AKA.
He had to be a dad tonightbecause he's got a baby baby.
And Kat I don't remember whatKat said For some reason she
couldn't make it tonight.
I thought maybe she was goingto make it tonight and then

(30:15):
maybe something came up.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, I thought she said she was going to, and then
I think she said something cameup, wow.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, yeah, we'll make an excuse for her.
She can do what she wants, andI'm used to doing this alone.
I've done it alone for a longtime, but we got Alan.
I sit with Alan.
Here's where I want to pickyour brain, tim, because I am
not the most educated on thisside of the house.
My understanding in Texasbecause I have witnessed it and

(30:45):
I have seen it Town hall, forinstance.
There have been instances wherewe have had to remove people
from town hall.
They were asked to leave, toldthey couldn't be there because
they were causing you know ascene and doing all that stuff
at the town hall and they gotliterally trespassed from the
location.
So I have seen and heard ofother people going to the courts

(31:11):
, going to the post officethat's another one where they
were trying to do the FirstAmendment, auditing stuff.
They created a disturbance ofsome sort.
It wasn't that they were justfilming, either way.
The post office called the cops, said they got to leave and
they refused.
So they got criminallytrespassed and taken off

(31:36):
property.
Now my understanding of the lawis yes, they have the right to
film, they can do all that.
However, where the cops arestuck between a rock and a hard
place is if a person that isacting as the agent of the
facility.
So let's say the manager tellsthe cops that person has to go.

(31:57):
They don't have to give thecops a reason, they just say
that person has to go.
And the cop is stuck becausethat person is the person that
is in charge of that facility.
So you tell them hey, they saidyou got to go.
They're going to ask for areason.
We don't have a reason to givethem, because they just said no,
you got to go.
And then we tell them you gotto go, are you going to get
criminally trespassed?

(32:18):
And then that's where theargument begins.
And then you end up having toarrest them because they're
setting up their lawsuit againstthe post office because the
post office worker was wrong butthe cop wasn't.
Because the cop is only actingon what the law is for criminal
trespass when the person thatowns the building tells you you

(32:39):
gotta go and or is acting as theowner you have to leave.
So what is my?

Speaker 7 (32:44):
understanding is basically what the actual
federal law states on it andI've looked this up and I've
talked with a lot of arguedpeople on tiktok about this.
First of all, the did you knowthe post office is technically
federal but it's its own privatebusiness yes, it's, it's

(33:04):
actually like it's uh, what dothey call it?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
concurrent jurisdictions.
It's like but.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
But it falls under federal at the same time now
correct.
Also, it also depends on thedepartment of where you're at,
what city, what state, whatcounty, whatever bs underneath
it that the federal government,that post office, has to have a
contract with the current areaof the police department, the

(33:29):
sheriff's department or a localpolice department, to be able to
enforce laws on post officeproperty.
So that means if the postoffice calls the police, if that
police department doesn't havea contract with that post office
, they are basically out oftheir jurisdiction.

(33:50):
They have to call a federalofficer or a federal, what they
call anybody like they canliterally call an air marshal
because they're federal.
Yeah, usually it's.

(34:12):
It's the sheriff's department,because sheriff's departments
will hold contracts throughoutthe whole county and it's tax
funded.
Normally you can't betrespassed without a crime.
If it's like, say, we go into awhat do you call it?
A city hall and you're in thereand you're already passing

(34:36):
security.
You ain't got a gun on you andyou're just filming.
You're not causing adisturbance.
Normally you have to commit acrime, to be trespassed from
public property and that thenyou get into all sorts of stuff.
Well, time and place, and thenyou got into.
Uh, it gets very tricky becauseyou have what they call um on

(35:04):
my side or on this side of it.
Um, I'm trying to think of theword for it.
You guys will do it.
It's the um.
See, I'm on the spot here.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm trying to think of the words um, oh, you're,
fine buddy, no worries oh, whatthe hell.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Um, what good jeff gray goes.
Jeff gray goes where it's uh atime and place, basically the
place where you're at.
I'm trying to think of the wordto that.
You got me all flustered now.
Um, hey, yeah, you lookgorgeous while you're flustered,
uh yeah I forgot the name ofwhat it's called.
Somebody in the comments shouldknow this.

(35:38):
Um yeah, I can't remember whatthe name's called.
Sorry, I just blanked out onthat.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Um yeah, um, this is this is not true by the way.
Uh, acorn, he said.
Not only that officer is, ifthey do not have an agreement
with the po, they're inviolation of having a firearm
and a postal property.
That's not.
Yeah, cops can have a firearmpretty much anywhere they cops
can have a firearm throughoutthe state that they're certified
in.
That's on both federal andstate.

(36:06):
So just so you guys know.
Oh, what do they call that?
I'm still thinking.
I'll think of it in a second.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
It's basically time, place, manner restrictions.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
There you go.
I had the night, helped you.

Speaker 7 (36:22):
Traditional public forum that's what it's called.
There you go Mag.
Go either night.
Helped you.
Traditional public forum that'swhat it's called.
There you go, mag dump, put itup, hey there you go traditional
public forum and there we go ifthe place is not designated a
traditional public forum, thenyou're basically you got to go
right, like town square or townhall.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Those are traditional public.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
a lot of people I argue with on TikTok.
Is they automatically I say alaw or I state what's right or
what the law is?
Oh, I'm a cop hater.
I'm automatically a cop hater,it's.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeah, a boot licker.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
But if I say yeah, the boot licker.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's the other side .

Speaker 7 (37:01):
It's just what's wrong with just stating the law
that's what.
I'm trying to grow my channelwith Just state the law, stay
neutral and be done with it, soI don't remember your question
when you first started.
What do I think about when theygo into?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So I was basically trying to get what your
understanding is when it comesto the criminal trespass in
places like town hall, the postoffice, public library, because
those seem to be the mostpopular spots that the auditors
like to try to test police.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
They're in a public place like that and I try it's
traditional public forum andit's marked as a traditional
public forum.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
They have to commit a crime for you guys to be able
to trespass them legally, I meannow, right, and and that's
where I'm saying myunderstanding, and again I'll
tell you I'm not the mosteducated person on this.
I can only tell you what I'veseen in practice and what I've
been told from prosecutors andstuff like that is the person,

(38:06):
let's say the public librarythey call us, hey, this guy's
got to go.
And this actually happens quitea bit with homeless people.
They're in there and they'rebeing inappropriate on the
computers and yes, and they'relike this guy's got to go and
I'm like, all right, I don't askany questions because it's
they're in charge of thefacility.
It's no different, in myopinion.

(38:27):
What if there was a familyemergency and all that is at the
library is the one employee?
They're like I got to close up,I can't leave this place
unsecure.
I got to go.
All these people need to leave.
Are you telling me that thisperson no longer has the right
to tell you you have to?
You can't that, you can leave.
No, you absolutely have to go.

(38:47):
So it's this, it's the samething.
Oh, shotgun and tattoos.
Shiba dog squeezing a big redheart.
I see, I love that.
It just makes up random shit.
Thank you very much.
Shotguns and tattoos very muchappreciated Every time you guys
donate you directly help thechannel.
Alan has single-handedly gottenrich.

(39:09):
He takes all the money from itand he buys retro rifle shirts.
I can't stop him.
He's in control of everything.
But to my point that's thepoint that I'm trying to get to
there is a person that'sultimately in charge of the
facility and then that personcan they tell you that you got

(39:31):
to go Now.
Here's where the lawsuit sidecan come in.
They could be making up somewhatever.
That's not for the cop todetermine.
The cop can only go off whatthat facility leader manager
tells them.
And if they tell you thatperson's got to go now, they're
going to have an easy lawsuit.

(39:52):
Hey, they kicked me out becauseI was filming.
Well, how can you prove that?

Speaker 7 (39:54):
I filmed my entire interaction and at no time was I
a disturbance yeah, that's veryeasy that's the thing about
cameras, why they're all inthere, plus that's why, I don't
like auditors that go intobuildings.
They go into public buildingsand go into places like that,
because you're getting into moreand more problems when it comes
to if you want to get a lawsuitout of it or if you're just

(40:17):
doing it to teach people.
And to me it's just not worth it.
Stay on a public sidewalk in apublic view, where you can be
seen by anybody and everybody Doyour audit.
If you get a cop come up to getyou, just tell you do your
normal audit and be done with ityeah, agreed.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Now I gotta read shotgun and tattoos to comment.
You gotta keep alan and zimasin malibu.
I like it.
Um, sigma lord has a goodcomment here, though logic and
reasoning on both sides mustdictate our outcomes, and this
is where I am a hundred percentin like for me, if I get
somebody at the post office andthey're videoing and they're
doing their First Amendmentaudit thing, I can read between

(41:00):
the lines.
I know what's going on.
I know more than likely theyare not causing a disturbance.
What's up?
Look at that hair, holy cow.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's him every day.
When you have cow licks likeyour dad, you've got to have it.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
You've just got to work with it.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Say hi Tripp.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Hi, what's?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
up buddy.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
I don't put your hair up like that after the meeting.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Right.
So for me, going along withSigma's comment, it is my job as
a cop, hopefully, to educate onboth sides in a way.
Hey to the manager like you'resetting yourself up, this guy's
doing this intentionally to seeif you know what the laws are.

(41:44):
He is legally within his rights.
So if you tell me he's adisturbance, just understand.
He's recorded the whole thingand he's going to hammer your
ass in a lawsuit.
That's my job as a cop.
This is where the communicationside goes with policing.
So if you're a cop out thereand you're like I can't be
bothered with this, call this isthe shit you need to do.

(42:07):
So this is where I challengey'all what the hell is that?
Who wrote that?
Did you write that, alan?
Yeah, I was like I didn'tfucking write that.
It was me, okay.
Patrick True Love said Disagree, tim.

(42:29):
Public buildings are goodbecause they are public
officials and they need to beheld accountable for their bad
actions as well, not just auditthe cops well, like I said it's,
you're going to have peoplethat work there coming out too.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
I've seen it.
They're going to come out andwonder what's going on.
And yeah, like I said, that'sjust my opinion.
I don't like auditors that gointo public buildings.
I'm not saying you can't do it.
I'm not saying that there isn'ta chance that you can do it and
do your audit in there.
I just don't agree with it.
My personal self.
Oh, I see what you're saying Tome it just leads into more and

(43:02):
more BS.
If you're trying to get alawsuit out of it, If you're
trying to get a lawsuit out ofit.
It's not my problem.
I can't stop them from doingthat.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
You're just trying to do it for youtube views.
That's not my problem.
I you're more about the missionthan I'm more about the mission
.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
I'm more about holding government accountable,
the mission of educating policeand citizens on the law, what's
happening, and trying to bridgethat gap between the them bus
versus us mentality gotcha.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
that makes sense.
Uh, ryan lemay this is kind ofoff topic, but I like that.
He dropped it.
I must have talked about this,I just don't remember.
He said a while back you weretalking about a drop holster
with a built-in tourniquet.
One option is alien gear tackstrap.
You can add a second leg hookedto belt as well.
Usa made Good shit.
Thanks, buddy, I like that.

(43:52):
Anything that can help save alife, I'm all for it.
Aeds that's another one guys.
Huge fan of AEDs.
Oh, the smoke wagons.
Give me a little.
Auditors like to file very fewlawsuits.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah they don't file many lawsuits, right?
Yeah, they go.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Well, most of the time they don't need lawsuits.
They don't file many lawsuits,right, most of the time they
don't need to, they get asettlement immediately.
That's the other thing thatpeople don't consider.
With departments, there is nolawsuit because they just get a
quick settlement, because thedepartment is like yep, we
fucked up, we'll give you$30,000, $50,000 $5,000 or
$6,000 just going in.

(44:35):
Because it's cheaper for thedepartment.
In the long run too, they justsettle.
So that's why I say there'ssome that are in it for the
mission and some that, like thedude that I was talking about
that video earlier.
I guarantee he was just lookingfor a quick settlement.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Just the vibe I got from that guy, those kind of
auditors.
I can't stop them.
I can't stop them.
If they want to go get alawsuit, go try it bud.
But I don't agree with doing itfor a lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, my stance on any videos that we see.
What can I learn from it?
How can we improve Across theboard?
It doesn't have to be the cops,it can be the citizens too.
What did we learn from it?
How can we improve?
If you guys want to know theformula to my show, that's it.
What can we learn from it?
How can we improve?
Every single time when I get avideo, when you guys send me

(45:25):
stuff, that's what I do Quickshout out to the sponsors.
We've got to break this downevery so often.
Guys, one of our pride and joysis Peregrine.
Now, for the majority of youguys that aren't cops, this
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But what Peregrine does is itturns this is my words, not

(45:47):
theirs, but it turns shittydetectives into Sherlock Holmes.
Wouldn't you love to know,citizens, that your detectives
could work more efficiently,more effectively, faster and
with less people simply byhaving some software?
That's what Peregrine can do,so I would highly recommend it.
If you can't afford bodies, getthem the software that can help

(46:08):
them do their job better.
So Peregrine, check them outbetter.
So Peregrine Check him out.
Anyway, uh-oh, what did MrBillfold say?
Here?
I see something about Jesus.
Jesus went to the sinners.
Auditors have to go to theignorant.
I like it, he ain't wrong.
He ain't wrong, I like it.
Look, we're going to have tochange his name.

(46:30):
He's no longer going to be MrBillfold.
He's going to have to changehis name.
He's no longer going to be MrBillfold, he's going to have to
be the preacher.
Preacher B.
Preacher B right.
Preacher B in the house Church.
Take him to church.
Preacher B.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
Watch him not even be a preacher or like any of that
stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, I know he's like I'm not even religious.
I made this man Right.
Well, he is a Marine, so I knowhe works for the Marines.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
That makes it funnier , though in my opinion that just
makes the joke better.
Right Sigma Lord.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I have the full videos to go over with you and
break down, but I feel likesomeone is going to give, it's
going to have to need a heads upon your end to help structure a
presentation of multiple hoursof body worn camera.
Yes, that would definitely take.
That's the problem, guys, istime and and effort on some of
this stuff.
Some of y'all send me videosand I'm just like I.

(47:26):
You guys gotta understand.
Mr billfold alone sends me 25videos every 20 minutes.
So, um, he gets himself allhyped up, he gets pissed off and
then he rants at me and then wetalk it out.
He's like you fucker, I do not.
No, he sends me a couple videoshere and there.
I'm just giving him shitbecause he's my boy now, uh,

(47:48):
either night.
Yeah, unfortunately the bad copscity workers, officials don't
really get held accountable.
The citizens pay for them.
I don't agree with that fully.
In some cases, yeah, I don'tthink they get held accountable,
but in other cases, sometimesthey just get hammered Like, I
think, overly hammered, you know, and it's just like what do you

(48:14):
do?
You're fine, go to town, baby.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
You're allowed to drink online, I don't know what
you're allowed to do with these.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Do what you gotta do, brother.
I never heard anything.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Well, I'm a smoker too, so I would be smoking
cigarettes, but I can't do itnow.
So I'm stuck with this, sowould be smoking cigarettes, but
I can't do it now, so, oh, I'mstuck with this.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I'm stuck with this, so I won't say this word out
loud, I don't want to getflagged, but you guys can read
oh my god, you guys are out ofcontrol today.
Uh, what did he say?
Oh, dang it.
Uh, he said I do shit all overEric's inbox, I take advantage

(48:56):
and I'm ashamed.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Makes you wonder what he's had to do for a Klondike
bar.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
I know right, trust me, you would think he's like
Madonna's preacher and some ofthe stuff I make him send me
Like.
If you want me to look at thisvideo.
You know what daddy needs tosee.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
I have a lot of stuff I can send you guys.
I just don't like to bug you.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah Well, here's the thing, guys, I want you all to
understand.
We have actually reached apoint where I just can't respond
to a lot of stuff anymore whichis cool.
It's a good problem to have,don't get me wrong, but I feel
bad.
I am the type of person I thinkwhat makes our platform so good
is the fact that we take thetime out to answer as much as we

(49:41):
can all the time.
That comment that that guy sentme in my inbox I still
responded.
I'm trying to tell you guys Ithink that's what makes us
unique is that we still try toanswer these questions.
Signal Lord.
This is personal experience.
So you get the call 911 body,one camera, the correct timeline
of events and full narration.

(50:01):
Oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Let me see here, off topic, from G Eric, what's your
stance on pit maneuvers?
Personally, I think it isbetter than chasing someone to
extended periods of time putsmore risk on the state.
It's like a lot of things.
It's like pepper spray.
I'm usually not a fan of itunless it's the right conditions
.
So it's the same with the pitmaneuver If you've got a guy.

(50:29):
I've seen chases that have wentto the ends of the earth and it
could have been ended inseveral different places much
earlier and because it wasallowed to get dragged out, when
it finally came to an end, itwas tragedy.
And you're like, damn, we couldhave stopped it way back here.
We could have stopped it backhere, could have stopped it back
here.
So it's time and place.
Um, I'm gonna harass alan now,there you go.

(50:53):
That's what I'm talking about.
Harass Alan now, there you go.
That's what I'm talking aboutHarass the shit out of him.
I knew I saw a good one.
Tim, I would take my denturesout and gum you for a con day.
That's a Marine.
That is a Marine I have somecrayons.
See, that's why you give himsome crayons, he'll be happy.
Andy Fletcher, I get to fumingand a half to take breaks from

(51:17):
watching too many.
Yeah, between Andy and MrBillfold, I do think they are
the ones that get the mostemotionally revved up sometimes
on their videos.
And listen, I can be yourdumping ground.
You guys can take yourfrustrations out on me.
I will gladly try to talk youoff the edge best I can.

(51:41):
Freeman Key said hola, mr BGlad Freeman's in the house.
Harrison Brock said when are wegetting the Discord server?
We're trying to get it going.
Part of the problem is mymilitary time came up.
We're trying to get some ofthese sponsors to come through
with their financial help so wecan actually put money towards

(52:07):
this stuff.
So that's all that's holding usup.
We actually have, thanks to Tim, actually helped us out on that
.
We actually have a channel,just haven't really hashed that
out.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
yet there's nothing in there, right now.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
There's no structure to it.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Yeah, there's no structure and he's been busy and
I'm just sitting on thesidelines saying when you get
time, bud, and right now, as youcan see, he's doing his
military thing.
Yeah, bud, and right now, asyou can see, he's doing his
military thing and yeah, yeahyou can see as you make fun of
my baby face when he becomes aman again and grows his beard
back.
Well, hey, hey, can you send mesome?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
send me some uh beard shed and I'll I'll start
pasting it on here, just so,here's the beard balm for you.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Just start doing that they've got to show that the
rules, we, we, they got asponsor first.
Come on now, oh yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep y'all in line,
right?

Speaker 7 (53:05):
yeah, yeah, the guy in the background well that's
what I'm here for I have a localcompany here in town that gets
my beard oil Really A localbookstore and his wife makes
beard balm and beard oil.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, I heard she milks the anal glands of
duck-billed platypuses for it.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
I wouldn't doubt it.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I don't know where this just went.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
I'm going to send us some money.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
I'm going to send us some money.
You know, get us to send ussome money.
I got that.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Because I heard that's how they got.
Vanilla extract Was like fromBeavers anal glands.
I don't know if that's true,but that's that's what I heard.
Country Girl said we hadanother murder of an inmate by
corrections officers near me.
Lia is covering it.

(54:01):
I don't know what LIA is LongIsland Audit oh okay, yeah he's
covered another one.
Now I will say I think that'sgoing to be the next wave of
accountability.
It's going to be corrections.
It is something as a cop copI'm not exposed to.
The best I see is the jail andthat's for about 20 minutes.

(54:22):
Run in, write your PC affidavitand you get out because they
stink, they smell like nastyvomit, so I hate going to the
jail nasty vomit, so I hategoing to the jail.
But I think this is my hope notto take eyes off police.
I'm not saying it that way,although it does sound that way.

(54:42):
So I admit that.
But I'm hoping that we canstart focusing, cause I had a
couple of guys on the show I hadum, now I'm blanking out Aaron
D Dyson and I had Derek Hamilton.
Both were wrongly convicted.
They did 20-plus years inprison.
Very sad stories, but veryawesome stories because they're

(55:05):
successful.
I plan on having Aaron back on.
I actually plan on having Derekback on, but he's a busy man.
And then Aaron and I justhaven't connected.
But my point being the stuffand the tragedies that they told
me about while they were inprison tells me that there's a
systemic problem.
They didn't know each other,they didn't even go to the same
prisons.
There's a systemic issue goingon in corrections off areas that

(55:30):
I think they need to be wearingbody cameras.
They need to be having moretransparency and accountability.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
I got something to say on that.
I was a CO.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Go for it, Tim.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
Okay, I was a CO and I'll even tell you where I was a
CO.
I don't care Anybody ever heardof it's in Putnamville, indiana
.
It's called the State Farm.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
That does sound familiar.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Okay.
I was a CO there.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
I was only there about six months, but I'm not
going to get into why I left.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
You were a big boy.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
The biggest problem I had there was the other
officers.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
They were dirty.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
You're reaffirming my already suspicion suspected
they were dirty.
I'm not gonna name names, I'mgonna tell you, but I'll tell
you they were dirty one of theoldest state.
You know state state facilitiesand they're dirty out there I
mean, they've got no eyes onthem.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
Literally no cameras.
Half the cameras didn't work.
Shotguns and tattoos.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Miss you.
Cornelius Big Red.
I gave him a nickname veryearly in his YouTube career here
, so old Banning is chiming infrom the LinkedIn account.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Yeah, I just saw him popped up there.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well, we are almost at the hour mark, so I want to
get to some of our body camreview stuff.
Okay, and for those that arenew to this, if you've never
heard what we do, we watch bodycam videos and we pretend us Now
Tim.
Tim gets to play along, eventhough he's not trained the same

(57:16):
way.
We are Oof fighting back a burpand we pretend that we are the
cops in the video.
So you're not, we're notwatching the video.
And then, monday morning,quarterbacking, we're trying to
give you insight on policetraining, how we break down a
call as it develops.
So it's kind of a unique lookat it.

(57:37):
Now, what will be fun becauseTim is not a cop is to give him
the opportunity to chime in andkind of be like all right, well,
this is kind of how I look atit, and then we'll tell you our
police training.
And now that I know you've beena CEO a a little bit, so you
might have some good insight wewere trained.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
We were trained almost identical to the the
first part of it, as statetroopers were trained we had to
take all the same courses.
We had to take ceo classes, uh,oc classes, sorry, uh, we had
to take oc classes.
We had to do all the trainingon holds, the whole.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Yeah, you know, yeah, cuffing everybody how to do it,
how training on holds the wholecuffing everybody.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
how to do it, how to make sure you're safety first.
We had to do all that training,take psychological classes,
everything, but we just didn'thave arresting powers.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I think Mr Billfold is finally seeing the light.
Now you see where I'm comingfrom.
Alan is a fucking train wreckand he's constantly screwing up.
Right now he's wrangling hisdog is my guest do I need to
quit like that there?
We go, he is listening.
Damn it, I got caught.

(58:47):
I was trying to talk shit.
He said alan, you typoed yourown email address.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah, Alan was taken, so A-Law when you're a police
officer is the next best thing.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Eye of the night.
You, son of a bitch, takeEric's opinion with a grain of
salt, ladies and gents.
He's chair force after all,kind of like having a handicap
in golf, you know what.
Listen, because y'all weren'tsmart enough to score high on
your ASVAB and get in the AirForce doesn't mean you got to
take that out on me.
All right, sons of bitches.

(59:20):
Andy, how dare you laugh atthat, don't you?
Even he's eating all the donuts, all right, so I'm going to let
.
Oh, they're playing TAPS rightnow.
It must be nine.
Yep, I can hear it.
That's one thing If you guyshave never been on a military
base.
They play the National Anthemat 5.30.
They play Taps at 9 pm.

(59:43):
They play Reveille in themorning.
When you're waking up, I thinkthat's at like 7, 7 am,
something like that.
No, I actually think it'searlier than that.
I don't know.
I tune it out.
So, anyway, alan, what do wegot tonight?
Buddy, where are we?
Where are we looking at?
What youtube channels are weusing?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
uh, right now we're at code blue, so we don't have
very many from code blue, uh orno, we are uh code blue.
Cam is the first two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Okay so shout, so shout out to Code Blue Cam on
YouTube.
We're using their videos.
Tonight.
I think we're probably usingsome police activity here.
We are Videos from YouTube aswell.
So, guys, this is your part toask questions.
Throw your input out there andwe'll go back and forth on all
that stuff.
Perry Lemley in the house.

(01:00:31):
What's up, perry?
Always like seeing my LinkedInguys jump on our YouTube channel
.
So on you, mr.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Exceeding $200.
Shortly after, a woman calledthe store to report fraudulent
use of her credit card afterreceiving a bank alert about an
unauthorized transaction atDairy Queen.
Moments after the phone call,three individuals transaction at
Dairy Queen.
Moments after the phone call,three individuals entered the
Dairy Queen.
One of them, later identifiedas 17-year-old Shamar, was

(01:01:03):
wearing a mask and presented hisphone displaying the online
order.
However, the store refused tohand over the food, choosing to
wait for the police to arrive.
Shamar and the Well good forthem.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
That is not a normal behavior from young people
working at facilities like this.
Most of the time, they don'twant no smoke, they don't raise
any questions anymore and theyjust let it happen.
So you're muted, alan.
Right now what we have- $233 atDairy Queen.

(01:01:35):
Yeah, okay, that's a good point.
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
That's all I noticed.
I was like that's a lot ofblizzard.
Who are you feeding?

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
That's like seven meals.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Right, okay.
So, tim, I want to get Tim'sperspective.
Now, you know you're going to acall where you have this is a
felony, because they're usingcredit card fraud.
So knowing it's a felony, butknowing it's a, you know it's

(01:02:09):
not a violent felony, not.
Yet You're going to go show upto this location where you've
got known felons on scene.
So what's your mentality likewhen you're going into a call
like this?

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Well, first of all, somebody that's willing to
commit a felony has more thanlikely I would give it a
percentage, probably about 70%has committed a felony before.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
Not knowing what kind of felony they committed, for
Someone just doesn't, out of theblue, commit a felony.
You know they do, but you knowit, you just got to, you know,
you got to know if they, if theperson has, is, you know it's a
felony.
They're just, they committed afelony before you got to come up

(01:02:58):
with that.
That's the way I'm thinking, soI'm not walking up in there by
myself.
Anyway, I'm going to havebackup.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Fair, okay, alright.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Any felony calls you're going to have to bring
back up.
I don't care if it's nonviolentor violent, it's just that's
the way I've as a civilian.
I think the cops should be twothree deep with any felony.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
All right, I don't disagree with that.
So all right, Alan, let's keepgoing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
The other two individuals returned to their
vehicle unaware that police werenearby observing them as Dairy
Queen employees exited the storeand pointed toward their car.
The officer trailed them for ashort distance before deciding
to initiate a traffic stop.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
All right pause it, okay.
So for me, I like that tactic.
I like that.
We didn't cause a scene insidethe store with felons.
We're going to try to get themon their own.
Now here's the risk they fleein the vehicle.
Now you've created a chaseamongst the public, so there's

(01:04:03):
that.
So there's that.
Or you think about it the otherway, where you create a
disturbance inside the DairyQueen and they're separated
One's out of the car, two are inthe car.
Now you've got divided areasthat you've got to cover and
secure.
That could be a major shitstorm.
So I like this approach.
They let them all get in thecar together, so they've only

(01:04:28):
got to deal with one thing at atime.
So I'm okay with that.
Um, alan said he's demutedright now because he's got.
I think he's dealing with hisdog, so no worries, you got
anything to add to that tim nookay, it's a pretty good thing
to do, get them together yeah,this is pretty fun, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
well, like I said, I'm not.
Like I said, I would have beena cop a long time ago, but I
couldn't pass the physical.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I got you.
They don't let you have thoselong beards, bro.
So Perry Lemley said felonystop time.
So in this I don't disagree, Iwould probably do a felony stop.
And for those wondering what afelony stop is, we're going to
initiate a traffic stop withlights, maybe sirens, if they
don't stop right away, then oncethey come to a stop, we're

(01:05:14):
going to get out of the car,we're going to have our guns out
and we're going to be loudhailing them over the PA.
Hey, driver, turn the car off,put the keys out the window,
show us your hand, like all ofthese commands, and we're going
to call them out one at a time,and we're going to take each
person into custody, um, safely.
So, uh, let's go to thecomments real quick.

(01:05:34):
I want to see if there's, ifthere's, anything nicole nicole
said yeah, don't want them inthat car when I don't know
what's in the car.
Fair Andy said you said atraffic stop.
What about PC for that stop?
You don't need PC.
You've got your people, you'vegot your felons on view and

(01:05:59):
that's coming from a crediblethird-party witness.
That is enough for the stop,because they were pointed out.
You're going to have thatwitness's name and information.
You're to have all of this, soyou don't need pc.
You've already got it.
Now let's keep going.
All right, alan, you can keepgoing I'm 81 with a,500 block of

(01:06:27):
.
Who wants to bet?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
we're going to get some.
However, as Chamar's vehiclecame to a halt, one of the
passengers suddenly exited andran for his life.
I'm like, no, you're done, putthe vehicle in park.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
Stay in the vehicle.
Stay in the vehicle.
We got one running Eastbound.
I'm with the car southbound 65from Minakee pause, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Now, with this, you're probably wondering why
didn't he go chasing after him?
Because we have to stay withthe driver.
It's typically how this goes.
You stay with the driver nomatter what, because they're in
care, custody and control of thevehicle, so you stay with the
car.
Called that out.
Now, the thing that I noticedhe was running with his hand
pinned to his left hip.
Did you see that, tim?

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Yeah, I saw that he could be pulling his pants up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Can you go back, Alan ?

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
But that also could be he could have a gun on his
hip, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
My belief is that is consistent with somebody holding
a weapon.
Pulling the pants up is usuallya two-handed event, so there he
is, he's got it pinned rightthere.
That's what I was looking at.
Doesn't mean I'm right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Weird thing about it is, most of the time, just
because their pants are alwaysfalling off, they don't like
like fall all the way down youthink they would but they
generally don't have to holdthem up just because their pants
are falling off.
They generally are holdingsomething else.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
Um, in my my experience, all right untrained
like me and trained like youguys, so you guys have dealt
with it a lot more than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I'm just looking through the comments here.
Andy said so it's not really atraffic.
I say traffic stop becausethey're pulling a vehicle over
on the street.
Andy, get off my nuts, allright, that's fine.
We've seen so many that get offbecause they were pulled over
for working tail light and itgets it.
All gets thought like yeah,you're not getting tossed on

(01:08:33):
this one.
It's going to be the totalityof the circumstances.
You got called to the dairyqueen because they were
suspected of passing thatfraudulent charge.
The guy's wearing a mask, it'sa huge amount and when the cops
get there they say that's themgetting into that vehicle.
So it's, it's a matter ofreasonable, articulable

(01:08:57):
suspicion.
I would say you've got that.
So, um, nicole said based on mytraining experience, I would
agree with you, alan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
So you know.
So I've never gotten theopportunity to do it, but I've
often wanted and said that.
You know the I I worked with alot of kids and it was like I
just wanted to like be behindthem and push right there in the
middle, you know, and it neverworked so yeah, um, charity lamb
actually points out anothergood.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
It could just be contra man that he doesn't want
to get caught with.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
But always.
Well, generally that's in theunderwear and it it doesn't.
You know, I mean, most of thetimes that's where I've found it
is.
It's stuck in the underwear, inthe groin, where we can't you
know, where they think we're notgoing to feel it when we pat
them down, in the groin, wherethey think we're not going to
feel it when we pat them down.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Right, yeah, so they're getting hung up on.
Listen guys, this is casualconversation.
I'm not writing a police report.
If I'm writing a police report,all of this is going to be
articulated.
So I apologize if I didn't comeacross like I'm putting a case
together.
So let me put my case togetherfor you.

(01:10:11):
I called to the scene of a DairyQueen where we were checking
out three suspects that wereidentified by Dairy Queen as
possibly passing a fraudulentcredit card charge.
As we arrived the scene, theDairy Queen employee was

(01:10:32):
communicating with me activelyon the phone and we had them
make an exit strategy out theback.
Where we arrived and theyidentified the suspect vehicle.
As we got there, all threesuspects left without taking
their purchase.
As we got there, all threesuspects left without taking
their purchase.
This, in my training andexperience, is consistent with

(01:10:52):
somebody that is committing acrime because they left their
food.
Had they purchased it legally,they would have stayed and
protested that they didn'treceive their food.
But they jumped in this vehicleto where we followed their food
.
But they jumped in this vehicleto where we followed and then
we conducted a traffic stop toinvestigate the fraudulent

(01:11:14):
charge, not a traffic violation.
So that is how I would havedone that.
Thank you, Pete.
Articulate, articulate.
Listen guys.
It's casual conversation here.
Relax, you're trying to get onme for this stuff.
You made me cop.

(01:11:35):
Don't make me cop on here,anyway.
What Harrison say oh I'm sorry.
What Mr Billfold say see whatyou did.
You made us listen to Eric Copsplaying this bullshit.
Yeah, he said see what you didI.
You made us listen to Eric copsplaying this bullshit.
Yeah, Son of a bitch, what youdid made me sound like a tool.
Eric Levine, you're used.

(01:11:56):
Are you using effing with what?
Are you using effing with you?
Am I tripping?
Stop acting like you're on thejob.
Thank you, I read that part.
I'm not sure what he was tryingto say there at the beginning.

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
Are we effing with him right now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Oh, are you effing?
Okay, thank you.
That's what he was trying tosay.
My brain, the smoke wagon'shitting guys, leave me alone.
Patrick Shulove said you allgot poor Eric real serious now,
yeah, I don't mean serious, I'mnot a serious person.
Shotguns and tattoos, golf clapYo.

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
You guys are getting him to get that vein in his
forehead going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Allen.
He's the one screwing up allnight Smugglers.
All right, keep going, allen,let's keep playing.

Speaker 8 (01:12:46):
We got one running Eastbound.
I'm with the car Southbound 6-5from Minakee Blackmail.
Black top, black pants.
I'm with the vehicle right now.
206 is going after him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
There we go.
Driver open the window.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
now, while ordering the driver to exit, he noticed
the brake lights activate,before the car suddenly fled the
traffic.
Stop, oh, they're going to run.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
I didn't see that coming.
All right, so they separated.
Now it's just a matter ofhoping traffic's light and
following.
Following Exactly what wewanted to avoid earlier when I
told you this is why I went intothe Dairy Queen, because now
you've got two people in a carand one person inside.

(01:13:33):
Now look what we got.
We got one person on foot andtwo people in the car.
Shotguns are dead.
Don't blame Alan.
I'm blaming Alan, son of abitch.
He's laughing.
Keep going.
Harrison.
Eric cannot read, let aloneinfer context from a typo.
He's not wrong.

(01:13:53):
He is not wrong there vehiclejust took off.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Vehicle just took off let me pursue for suspicious
activity.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yeah, exactly, we need to know that we have a
crime Like that.
That was poor verbiage, likethey were talking about earlier.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, what he says on the radioversus how he reports it two
totally different things.
Because he's in the thick of it.
You can't really hold him tooaccountable for his words

(01:14:32):
because he's in the middle of afucking pursuit.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
But sergeants and lieutenants are listening to
that.
To shut down your pursuit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
That's a good point to point out.
Like me as a sergeant, when Ihear that, I'm going to be like,
do you have a crime?
I'm going to be like, do youhave a crime?
I'm going to help himarticulate because he's not
thinking clearly what do you got, Tim?
You look like you got somethingto say, buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
Oh, I'm just saying that he initiated a stop and
they're running Right there.
In itself is a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Correct, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
So if the pursuit goes, then you know, regardless
of the initial stop, if it'slegal or not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yeah, he ran from a traffic stop, so, yeah, there's
your crime and the traffic stopin itself was lawful because we
were what we were investigating.
So, and when you have acredible third party witness
being an employee at Dairy Queen, they don't know these people
from Adam.
So if they're willing to puttheir name on it, you've got a

(01:15:33):
credible witness.
So all right, let's keep going.
Are you looking for a new fenceor?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
gate for your home or property Type in your address
and drop the red pin to createthe traffic.
As Chamar and the 12-year-oldfemale passenger drove through

(01:16:06):
an intersection, they crashedinto another vehicle.
They had no clue.
There was a 12-year-old in thatcar.
That's that 6-5 in center.
I have to leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Good cop, I like that Bring her a nade.
Yep, Yep, Because we don't havea violent felon that we know of
, I would tend to the pursuit'snot worth it anymore and I'm
okay with this Yep Set up.

(01:16:39):
Let them know.
Hey, I had to render aid.
Keep going, Alan, you gotanything on?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
that?
No, I completely agree.
I think there's also asub-situation going on that is
probably on a different radiochannel, with them chasing a bad
guy, and so there may be somestuff that we don't see on an
MDT involving that person too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yeah, Patrick Truelove said.
But did they do the blizzardtest and flip it over before
serving it?
If they didn't, I don't want it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
That's climbing itself right there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I'm not a huge fan of pursuits, mainly because a lot
of innocent people get hurt.
Now in this one, if the copslearn that it's a 12 year old in
the felon's vehicle, we'regoing to stop pursuing.
It's a kid in the car, um, ifmaybe sometimes it depends, is
the 12 year old now in danger?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
so now, right, yeah, it's so I just uh witnessed an
incident this weekend in Arizonawhere they actually used the
what's that?
The, the thing that grabs aholdof the wheel I always forget
the name of it the grappler.
And so it started in one cityand the, the the dad threatens a

(01:18:03):
female over the phone in frontof the officer, but there's a
three-year-old in the back seat.
And they activated and uh tookcontrol of the you know van
because they were worried aboutthe safety of the kid in the
back of the vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
And you know, it w.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
It was really interesting to see and hear the
process in which they weredetermining the safety of the
child, and so, yeah, it's hard,man, when the process in which
they were determining the safetyof the child.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, it's hard, man, because now you're stuck
between a rock and a hard place.
I either chase because I'mtrying to save the 12-year-old
or I stop chasing because I wantto save the 12-year-old.
I don't think there's a winningchoice.
Because I want to save the12-year-old, I don't think
there's a winning choice.
So, no matter what it is youchoose, I just hope it goes well

(01:18:54):
either way, because they'regoing to continue to flee.
They're going to flee for awhile.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
But what is the one thing that me and you both know
about every suspect that we dealwith?
Where do they normally go toMom's house?

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
They always go home.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
I mean they may take the long way to get there, but
eventually they go home, Right?

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
And as a civilian side of it, if I'm being chased
by the cops and they call offthe chase, then I'm going to
slow down and just dart arounddifferent neighborhoods real
quick to make sure that they'renot following me.
And I'm not going to be goingfast, I'm going to be following
the law, like every stop sign,every stop light, and just so I

(01:19:39):
don't get picked up again.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, alright, let's keep going.
I'm at 6-5 Insider.
Whoever's chasing, ask him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
While the officer stopped to render aid, another
pursued Chamar as he continueddriving recklessly through the
city.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
However, the officer eventually lost sight of him and
terminated the pursuit thepursuit as an assisting unit

(01:20:28):
responded to the area hehappened tolights.
That's suspicious.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
So when you look at that clock or you look at the
time and that part of the year,there's also things I'm going to
be worried about and people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
You know so many pedestrians and you know running
through these neighborhoods.
Yep, yep, it's sketchy.
You can't, you can't go crazyfast.
All right.
Just because you're runningcode lights and sirens doesn't
mean you have to travel insanespeeds.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
You can still drive normal and you're still
responsible for, you know,stopping at stop signs and
making sure it's clear for youto go, because the last thing
you want to do is blow throughthere and and kill somebody or
yourself.
Yep, agreed, all right.
All right, let's keep going 49,.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
I have it.
He's going on Lloyd.
He's going to be goingnorthbound on 59.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
We're in a 30-mile-an-hour zone.
There ain't no other traffic.
I'm curious if they got the guyon foot.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
He's going northbound .
I'm up to Garfield and atWilliam John.
He's 25.
25, 46, still northbound on 59.
I'm up to north.
He's coming north from 59, I'mright on it speed's about 30.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
A short drive from Houston.
The.
Texas Coast's best kept secretis the opportunity you've been
waiting for.
Welcome to Beachside.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Eastbound, on north, coming up to 5-5.
Passing an oncoming trafficwe're through the green.
Speed is about 45.
Still eastbound, coming up to5-1, slowing for the red.
Still through the road.

(01:22:36):
Still eastbound, on north from5-1, speed's about 45.
Medium traffic eastbound northfrom 4-9, coming up to Lisbon
Through the red, eastbound at.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Lisbon.
Have you noticed theintersections, Eric, that he
keeps going?
They're crazy?
Well, but there's also patrolunits sitting in them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Yeah, got traffic stopped, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
So they're communicating Eastbound from
four, six and north past the carnon-coming traffic, back in the
right way of traffic coming upto sherman through the green at
sherman.
We're going north on grant fromNarco and Tulsa, 249 pursuit,

(01:23:35):
black Dodge Journey, northboundGrant from Heineken.
Northbound on Wiley back to thecorner.
Speed's about 35.
Speeds about 35.
Westbound on my knee fromSherman, speeds are about 50.

(01:23:56):
Went to the stop sign at about4-7.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
He soon failed to navigate a turn and crashed into
a light pole, after which bothoccupants fled on foot, coming
back up to about 5'8".

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Crash, crash, crash.

Speaker 6 (01:24:17):
Oh, there they go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Alright, so the 12-year-old's running too.
That's something to note, but Idon't anticipate these guys are
going to be something to note,but this I don't anticipate.
These guys are going to be hardto catch.
Use the car, no sense inrunning.
There you go.
I like it.

(01:24:42):
Oh, he left his door wide open.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
While one officer captured the passenger, the
other pursued Shamar until afence defied the law of gravity.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
You're going to run through it huh.
Roll over, roll over, do it,give me your back, get on the
ground, on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
On the ground, on the ground.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
I'm a clown.
You can't do that.
I don't care how old you are.
Shut up.
Shut up, hand me on your back.
Oh my gosh 2419.
Go 24-19 behind 24-19.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
I like it.
He's a good cuffing personright there.
Alright, pause it real quick.
Yeah, your age went out thewindow when you ran.
We don't care anymore likeyou're not an innocent victim in
this.
Your age goes out the window.

(01:25:50):
You got to act like everybodyelse when somebody tells you a
lawful command.
So, tim, what do you got?

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
He shot the taser.
Who did he tase?
Did he hit anybody?

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
I don't think he got him.

Speaker 7 (01:26:04):
I don't think he hit him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It didn't.
I think he missed.
Yeah, he was trying to do it onthe run it's pretty hard to do.

Speaker 7 (01:26:12):
That's brilliant, I don't.
It's hard to do.
It stand still.
You guys allow the tase minorslike kids.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Oh yeah, no, if you know, it just depends.
Like, if I know they're 12, butthat 12 year old bigger than me
yeah, yeah, if, if he's 12,damn.
But um, typically no, if youknow.
But there's always exceptions,Like they didn't know at that

(01:26:40):
time and the kid was big yeah.
I guess, he looked like hecould be, you know just depends.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
So in the state of Texas it's 10,.
Uh, you're culpable for youractions from 10 and up.
And so you know I've, I've hadto detain a 10 year old.
Um, you know, was it what Iwanted to do?
No, but you know it's.
You know the actions when youburn down a house.
You know you got to deal with,uh, your consequences and yeah,

(01:27:11):
I agree, yeah so all right,let's keep going that was a good
job.
He saw somebody coming up backup.
Hey, he probably needs morehelp than I do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
I'm you know they're right here yep, good
communication the whole time,really really good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Comms is a department could you grab my teeth?
Could you grab my teeth?
Could you grab my teeth?
Yeah, but right there, couldyou grab them?
Hold on, hold on, all right, nothis is.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
it Is he close Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
So what are they referring to?
Grab my teeth, eric.
Do you think he has dentures,or what do you think that is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
I'm sure it's a grill .
If I were to guess he's got agrill of some sort.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
It's not that he busted his teeth out or
something he's probably wearing.
You know they wear them like amouthpiece for football.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Does age depend on the crime?
I?
Don't know what that means no,yeah, your age does I mean the
crime you commit.
I mean I know nine-year-oldsthat have stolen vehicles.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
I know age has a determining factor on sentencing
.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Correct For sure.
So we had a nine-year-old copin the field.

Speaker 7 (01:28:42):
Right, there's a 15-year-old pointing a gun at a
cop.
The cop's going to drop himlike he would a 28-year-old Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Right, yeah, and cops have been putting in that
position.
I've seen it.
They've been put in a positionwhere they've got very, very
young people pointing weapons atthem and you just watch the
wheels turn in their headbecause they are trying to
calculate what to do.
Training's taken over, thatthey got a gun pointed at them,

(01:29:11):
but at the same time they don'twant to kill a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
We had a nine-year-old stab another
person, I think the kid was like13.
It came down to a child custodything and the family got sued
and so then it became a criminalcrime or a civil crime.
But we up until the court case.

(01:29:41):
It was dealt with just likeanybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Eye of the Night said it couldhave been a grill, or perhaps
some prosthetic teeth.
True, could have been amouthpiece, all sorts of things.
Alright, let's keep going,we're going to go to the
prosthetics.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
I want to know what happened to the guy that ran.

Speaker 8 (01:30:00):
Are you okay?
Are you injured at all?
No, you're not injured.
No, I'm going to roll you over,okay.

Speaker 7 (01:30:08):
You got anything on you, boss?
You don't have anything on you.
Very professional cop.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Taking care of him, talking to him nicely.
This is the rules of cop Oncehe kicks you bust him off, get
him help.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
We're going to make sure it goes with this, dang,
they got the motor jocksinvolved.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
While searching Chamar, officers found a
driver's license and credit cardbelonging to another individual
, which was later confirmed tobe stolen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
That's all I want.
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Weird.
Pause that for a sec.
So this is consistent with kidsthat go pull door handles on
cars.
Guys, this is a property crimesthing.
This is one of my level ofexpertise.
I was on a property crimes unitfor three years.
This is one of my specialties.
What they'll do is they'll gointo a neighborhood and they'll
walk up, just like the ones theywere running through, and

(01:31:21):
they'll just walk up thesidewalk and keep going to every
single car and find the onesthat the door handles are
unlocked, open the doors, therummage through.
They will find credit cards orthey'll go through mailboxes and
they will also find creditcards and ids and things like
that.
This is why we tell you don'tleave shit in your car, don't
leave your guns, don't leaveyour credit cards and don't

(01:31:42):
leave your ids, because theywill find it.
This is what they'll do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Well, and I feel like most of them, you know they
never, break windows things likethat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
It's all unlocked, I mean yeah, it's because people
leave their car doors unlockedhere in our town.

Speaker 7 (01:31:58):
when that happens, all they get is criminal
mischief charges.
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Not in Texas.
Literally it's criminalmischief.

Speaker 7 (01:32:09):
They'll get criminal mischief or they'll get break-in
and entering charges, becauseif they don't steal the car, we
call it burglary of a motorvehicle is what we have in Texas
.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
And then when you have you know, three or more IDs
or credit cards, things likethat, that's a felony.
Just having them on your personis a felony because they're not
yours.
So it's an assumed felony untilyou can find the owners and
find it, Because sometimespeople don't even know their
credit card's missing.
That's another thing.
T Ward said so nasty when theytake their grills out at the

(01:32:42):
jail Makes the whole place smelllike teeth.
Yeah, it does, Mr Biffle.
People leave their carsunlocked.
To stop replacing brokenwindows Possible, but don't
leave your shit in your careither.
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
It was his grill, by the way.
He did say his grill.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Oh did he.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Look at me.
I told you.
I said somebody's going to run,dude ran, told you it was a
grill, it was a grill, let'skeep going.
I told you.
I said somebody's going to run,dude ran, told you it was a
grill.
It was a grill, let's keepgoing.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
Like Nostradamus tonight.
You're not injured at all, areyou Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Where are the other guy?
The other guy, huh, where's?

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
his back Right here.
No, he came from the alley.
I got him right here.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
We're going to walk him southbound out to Miami.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
Now you're going to go back and see if he dropped
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
They're blurring out his face because he's a minor.

Speaker 5 (01:33:40):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:34:00):
Thank you, america's Day.
I'm really sorry about that,man.
Thanks, it was locked, though Iremembered the word oh he did
shut his door.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
I didn.
He did shut his door, I didn'tthink he did.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
I didn't think he did either.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
He didn't look like he shut it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
You know One comment that was said right there.
You know how many times Doesthe public really get upset with
you?

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
You know he's in the middle of his front yard and the
dude was understandable and youknow he could have been
completely mad about that yeah,and it goes into kind of like
what somebody had commentedearlier, um, about you know a
level of understanding on bothsides, into what tim was saying

(01:34:44):
about you know communicating andtalking to both sides, and to
what Tim was saying about youknow communicating and talking
to both sides.
Like that is what we need, notjust challenging everything
simply because you can.
That's part of the frustratingpart, so let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
Could I get that one on my feet?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah, give me one second, I'm waiting for that
classic code blue or blue cam.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
Give me all the way to the front.
Huh, code blue cam.
I'm sorry, I'm going to go findit.
That's coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
There it is.
In the end, jamar was chargedwith felony counts of operator
fleeing, eluding an officer,causing bodily harm first-degree
, recklessly endangering safetytimes.
Two.
Second-degree, recklesslyendangering safety, misdemeanor
hit and run, and he waseventually released on a $10,000
cash bond.
Six months later, chamar wasfound guilty of three felony

(01:35:46):
counts.
The remaining charges weredismissed, but read in the
12-year-old female passenger wascharged with fraudulent use of
a credit card party to a crimeand resisting, obstructing an
officer.
As for the unidentifiedpassenger who?

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I want you guys to notice who got charged with
using the card.
It was the 12-year-old.
You know why they did thatBecause she was underage.
So these two scumbags not onlywent out and committed crimes,
they used the 12-year-old as apatsy, knowing full well that
that charge won't really stickbecause of their age.

(01:36:25):
That is how in-depth thecriminal element is out there.
That may open some of your eyesto see the shit that we talk
about.
When I told you I knew a crewof a 9-year-old, a 10-year-old
and a 12-year-old that werestealing cars together, that was
all of them.
How do you stick that?
They're going to go out becauseof the people that they're

(01:36:45):
around and the families thatthey have and they're going to
keep.
They're going to go out becausethe people that they're around
and the families that they haveand they're going to keep
stealing cars and they're goingto keep breaking into your
vehicles, knowing full well thecriminal justice system ain't
going to do dick to them becauseof their age, yep.
And then people get up in armswhen a cop gets put in an

(01:37:09):
impossible situation where oneof these knuckleheads tries to
get a little street cred byposing a gun to a cop, and it's
just one of those things thatpeople don't understand.
That it is— and I don't evenblame these kids it's taught.
This was not, this is not their.

(01:37:30):
It was taught this is notsomething that they came up with
because they were playingviolent video games.

Speaker 7 (01:37:39):
This was taught.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Yes, it is a cultural issue within their family
dynamic.

Speaker 7 (01:37:46):
I'd like to add, if anybody has anything to say
about the yard being all messedup, being that it was a legit
pursuit and it stopped, theywill not cover charges to your
lawn.
City will not cover that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
That's true?
Yep, that is true.
Same when a SWAT department orSWAT officers hit a house,
they're not going to cover thatstuff either.
I think if they hit the wrongplace they should.
But I have heard I have noexperience in this, but I've
heard that when they've hit thewrong places they don't cover

(01:38:22):
the cost.

Speaker 7 (01:38:25):
And that street sign will not be replaced for at
least 6 to 8 months.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Oh, the ones that they ran over.
Well, it depends on whereyou're at, like my city, It'll
be replaced in a week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Yeah, because it's a liability around here.
I'm just so used to it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
Because of the city I live in.
I've had the cops literallytell me Our budget is not bigger
than our.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Give a shit that's a good, that's a good saying.
I like that, that is good.
So they here.
At the end, they do talk aboutour, our third subject.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
So let's finish this real quick, yeah yeah, let's see
that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Fled first from the traffic stop.
They were never located oridentified ultimately, jamar was
sentenced to two years in thewisconsin state prison, followed
by two years of extendedsupervision wanna deeper.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Good for him, pause that.
Yeah, good for you.
Yeah, you can minimize that.
Uh, good for him.
I I'm always listen.
I'm like y'all.
I always root for an underdogwhen they get away.
Sometimes I'm just like that'spretty cool and y'all wonder why
they run though every once in awhile they get away and we

(01:39:41):
didn't get a look at them.
I don't know what they look likeright and he knows his buddy
never gave his name camerasain't cameras there ain't gonna
be, they're gonna be 1985cameras.
Right, yeah, no, good for him.
He got away, he played the gameand he won, proud of him.

Speaker 7 (01:40:02):
So but uh, okay, well , you got another video for us,
mr allen let's uh, I do want tosay thanks for letting me sit in
on you guys tonight as a as aas a civilian spectator listen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
This is.
I don't think the show wouldhave any credibility if we
didn't have felons and peoplethat have committed crimes and
people that are against what wedo and then have people like you
that are on.
I don't want to say you're onboth sides, because I don't
think that's.
I think you.
You have an ethos that youfollow and it just sometimes it

(01:40:42):
lands on the police side,sometimes it lands on the other
side.
But my point is we do notcensor on here.
We try to now don't get mewrong.
We do a little homework withsome of you guys.
We let you earn your way onhere.
I'm not just going to get somecrazy fuck on on the show and
get on here and start spoutingsome nutty shit.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Main thing I got coming on the channel is I.
I have common sense and I haveright and I go by what the law
is, not feelings.
I'll give my opinion, butfeelings have nothing to do with
it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
And Matt vouched for you at the very beginning when I
first met you.
Me and Matt go way back atleast a couple years.
Yeah, so that helped.
Who's this one Code Blue Camanother one?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Yeah, all right, good , here we what else?
Who's this one?
Code Blue.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Cam.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Another one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Yeah, all right, good , here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
How long is this one Shit, we're not going 27 minutes
, so we'll see how it starts andwe'll jump around Unless you
want to go to the other ones andthen use this one last.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
All right.
We'll use that one last, if theother ones are police activity,
police activity tends to be alittle shorter, three to five
minutes.
Mr Billfold's got your back.
He said Tim sides with truthand that's always right down the
middle.
I like it.
Tim can tie his own shoes.
Tim don't have shoes with laces.

Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
I'm a fat guy, I ain't stupid, it's all Velcro.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
They're the slip-ons.
They're the sketchy slip-ons.
Tim, you got an amazing beard,so that means a lot to your
credibility.
Biggie says that for me, sir.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
Hello.
This is Racine County 911.
What's the address of theemergency?

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
My mommy's being bad.

Speaker 6 (01:42:26):
Okay, what's going on ?
My mommy is being bad.
Okay, what's going on?
My mommy is being bad.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
I want to come and get my mommy.

Speaker 6 (01:42:42):
Okay, what's going on ?

Speaker 5 (01:42:46):
Come get my mommy.
Do you know your?

Speaker 6 (01:42:50):
Hi, what's going on over there?
Oh, this little one got thephone and he's four.
Okay, we're trying to catch him, because he said he was going
to call 911.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
No, I just called the police and I just called to
come and get my mommy and I justcalled the police and I just
told her to come and get mymommy and I just told her to get
my mommy and I just told her toput her to jail.
So leave me alone, I screamed.
So that's probably why he'scalling 911.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
Okay, so you don't need police, fire or rescue?
No, no, okay, all right, we'llgo ahead and disregard.
Can I just have you confirmyour police, fire or rescue?
No, no, okay, all right, we'llgo ahead and disregard.
Can I just have you confirmyour address and can I get your
name please?
Okay, we'll go ahead anddisregard if you don't need
police, fire or rescue.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
So I don't know if you heard that she ate the
four-year-old's ice cream, soshe's mad at her mom.

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
Okay, so she's mad at her mom Okay, yeah, I did,
that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
That's okay, bye-bye, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
So if there's not much going on, we're still going
to follow up, just to check.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Hi.
Oh, it's the police.
They came for real.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
Yeah, we have to just come check to make sure
everything's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
Hey what you do.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
Did you call the police?

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
Yeah, why I told my mommy to go to jail.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Why do you want mommy to go to jail?
Because I hate her.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
Because she's being bad to me.

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
Why is she being bad to you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Because her doing silly stuff to me.

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
What's she doing to you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
Just keep on doing it .

Speaker 6 (01:44:48):
She hate you because you didn't get ice cream yet.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
I didn't get ice cream.

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
So is that why you're upset?

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
Yeah, that's why I didn't get no ice cream.
Ask me immediately.
It's so hard to yell at them.

Speaker 6 (01:45:04):
So no calling 911 unless it's a real emergency.
Okay, what are you calling?

Speaker 4 (01:45:09):
for I ate his ice cream.

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
You ate his ice cream Mommy has to go to jail.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
Should we take her to jail for eating your ice cream?
Yes, this is great.

Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
I would let you arrest me, I agree.

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
Now she's got to go get you new ice cream, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
Well, it really wasn't.
His ice cream had two icecreams, but I told him I was
gonna eat it because he's notwith me and he's running around,
so open my ice cream and Istarted eating it got mom on her
heels and she's about to be twomonths getting like that yeah,
yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
So, and in a case like this, oh oh, look at that
buddy right there, what's hername?
Her name is River Song.
Okay, and how?

Speaker 7 (01:45:54):
did we come up with River Song?
My old lady is a Doctor who fan.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Okay, so named after a character.
Okay, fair enough.
I am missing my dogs big time.
I'm probably more attached tomy dogs than my wife.
I know she's in bed by now, butI like to talk shit.
So in this call guys, this is abeautiful moment to do community

(01:46:22):
policing, make time to do alittle education, which these
female officers are doing.
You know, hey, let's use 911for real emergencies.
You know they're taking time tohear the story out, all of that
.
This is one of those momentswhere it's nice to take a breath
, enjoy it as a cop.

(01:46:44):
That's what I'm looking at isand just and just have fun with
the call, because it is.
It is a fun call and the mom'splaying with it.
Good mom, looks like it's agood household, everything seems
good.
So I'm interested when doesTim's beard end and the dog
begin?

Speaker 7 (01:47:02):
That's one dog, the other one won't.
I don't know if I get the otherone to come to me or not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
We.
I don't know if I get the otherone to come to me or not.
We're never going to get mad atdogs, unless they're Allen's,
because his will bark.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Mine are as much as we weigh.
One of them is 160.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Jesus what is it a?

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Mastiff, I have a Great Dane and a.
Mastiff.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
When they come running through they're running
through.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
They're not.
I always say it's not a realdog.
If you can't give it a manlyhug, that's the size of my dog's
head.
That's the size of your dog'shead.

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
This is the other one .

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
That looks like a little Ewok.
What's that one's name?
That one's?

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
Pond, emily Pond, another character from Doctor.
Who.
And she is a sit-shoe pug mix Apug zoo.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:48:01):
They just wanted to see what I was doing, because
they want my attention.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Aww and she is a demon the eyes look like it
choose everything, but yeahgotta have some, gotta have some
discipline in the house.

Speaker 7 (01:48:19):
It's hard to do that when you're not supposed to yell
at them and that just uh, mrbill floyd.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
He said play, send anything to alan.
Um, I, I just don't have thecapabilities where I'm at to to
play things and have things runsmooth.
So make sure, if you sendthings, send them to alan.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Um, pretty sure, that's a ferret he's talking
shit about your dog bro but getsme is though you, sons of
bitches white one is riversongand she's nine years old.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
The other one's nine months old oh, that's why he's
chewing everything that makessense.
So yeah, those dogs hasbladders the size of swimming
pools.
Alan, yeah, the when, when agreat pees, it's like a fire
hose going off.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Yeah, next episode I'll have a picture for you guys
.
I don't have one on thiscomputer.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Listen to Eye of the Knight.
You, son of a bitch, how dareyou?
You should be ashamed.
He said, yeah, send it to Alan.
So Eric doesn't break things,it's just shit on Eric night.
I guess I'm over here.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
I think we should make a new rule.
Every time they give Eric ourtime, he has to take a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Oh God, I got to work on it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:43):
Please no you got to do it on days that we're not
doing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Yeah, yeah, this is a weekend I have to work with
firearms in the morning.
Okay, never mind.
There's two targets.
Oh yeah right, we're not evenshooting.
Why do you?

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
shoot at two targets.
What is that episode?
Which one do I shoot at?

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Yeah, the middle one.
Oh, that's awesome.
Okay, what do we got next.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Police activity here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Okay, another police activity video.
I like those.

Speaker 7 (01:50:23):
My mic likes to get away from me here, alright.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
All right Police activity.

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
It's going to be 1-0-3-0-1 at Beach Boulevard and
it looks like he just jumpedthe curb.

Speaker 8 (01:50:35):
Oh, yeah, he's going to be driving up on the pier.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
He's going to be driving up on the pier.

Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
This is a good one Cheers Ward.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Yep, he's driving southbound on the pier at uh
slow speeds um, you got a fewpedestrians it's a murder
suspect.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
I did not know that he, he said to do something just
before that in their lingo.
So he, he wants him to initiatesomething, but I didn't catch
exactly what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Go back, go back.
Let's hear it again.
Do a pedestrian Zach, if youcan that?

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
this is a Do a pedestrian.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Zach, if you can, p8?
, Do a.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
P8.
Oh, P8.
Because he is a murdersub-status.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Yeah.
So if you can P8?
, Do a P8.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
Oh, P8.
Because he is a murder sub-sub.
Yeah, so okay.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Probably loud hail.
Okay, this is a still drivingon this side here.

Speaker 6 (01:51:38):
There's supposed to be pedestrians up there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Yeah.
So in this case, there's you go, you go after him, no matter
what.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Long drive off a short pier, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Look at everybody like what in the fuck?
Now I know fishermen, theyain't stopping until they get
their line back.
No, no.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
They're not going to abandon their pole.
So I'm a fisherman.
When I, when I look at this andI'm coming up to this, uh, as
an officer, response likefollowing this, I'm stopping
right there because he can stillturn around, he can do all
kinds of things.
I think he gets a little close.
I'm not second handquarterbacking, but I'm taking

(01:52:30):
all this in.
I guess he could say he'spulling his vehicle further up
To block these people Becausethey do know.
Yeah, maybe provide some cover.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
I don't really think there's a right call, you're
right.
It's just fucking.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
You guys said this was PA.
What's the stop of the P?

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Yeah, over the loudspeaker.

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
You're right, it's just fucking nuts.
You guys said this was PA, thestop was a P, yeah, over the
loudspeaker.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
That's what he was talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
So the video we're watching is the helicopter cam
right now, and so he's tellingthe guys down below to hail on
it and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
To use their PA Probably to warn the citizens
and challenge this guy.

Speaker 7 (01:53:09):
We're stopping them for a PA.
I've never heard of it.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
No, I think they just wanted them to use the PA to
kind of warn people.
Alright, let's keep going, youhave people downrange.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Wow.
However, if I have memory.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
yeah, if memory serves me correctly, he comes
out with a gun, so you got toprotect yourself, everybody that
could possibly possibly getshot.
It's kind of a mitigation ofrisk.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
Yeah, risk because you, you look, you've got two
people to the front of the carand you have 20 people behind
the vehicles, and so, right,you've got to protect the
majority now what you're hopingis everybody's got a good
shooting lane and you know,looking at it, I think they do

(01:54:15):
have a good window, but shithappens in dynamic moments like
this.

Speaker 6 (01:54:31):
So let's keep going going.
Shots fired, suspect's down.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
Shots fired, suspect's down.
Looks like he has a gun in hishand 417 in his right hand.

Speaker 6 (01:54:46):
Suspect's down Shots fired.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
Ward, there was cell phone footage.
That was the video I saw.
I didn't see this body camstuff.
So looking at their body cam,they had really good shooting
lanes.

Speaker 7 (01:55:01):
Yeah, it didn't look like anybody was in the backdrop
.
It looked like they moved.
Yeah, but in the backdrop theylook like they moved.

Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:55:22):
That reminds me of Sheriff Polk when he was like
why'd you guys stop shooting?
Why did you shoot him six times?
We ran out of bullets, Why'dyou?

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
shoot him six times.
We ran out of bullets.
Why'd you shoot him six times?
Yeah, people do tend to gethung up on the amount of rounds.
One of the things to understandis that you can get off an
incredible amount of rounds in avery, very short period of time
.
I can fire probably what sevento 12 rounds in a second or two

(01:55:53):
yeah, I got a pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:55:55):
I gotta go.
I can shoot pretty quick andit's it's a yeah and it's a five
shooter yeah, so it's.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
It's one of those things.
And then the other part is youget there's a thing called
sympathetic fire, which I thinkwe've discussed on here before
too.
You know you're lined up,you're about to pull the trigger
, you see the stimulus to pullthe trigger, but somebody else
already started firing and thenyou start firing.
That is another thing.
And then you hear somebody elseis firing, so you don't stop

(01:56:24):
because you hear somebody elsefiring and you're not going off
of the visual cue of is thethreat still there?
So these are, these are factorsit doesn't, it's not a
justification.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Well, and then you also have to add auditory
exclusion, and so as soon as youstart firing and that first
round goes off you know wealways train with ear earplugs
and all that kind of stuff butthe second that you know you
fire that round without anyhearing protection, you
immediately can't hear anything,and so you're, you're, you're

(01:56:56):
responding to the movement andthe action as best you can.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Yeah and then and then you get guys like in mr
bill fold and some of the otherguys that have served.
I think they can relate to thismindset.
It's different if you chase aguy and you go down to an
alleyway and it's you and yourboys and you're trying to affect
the arrest and they present agun and you shoot.
But when you know you're goingto the end of a pier and there's

(01:57:23):
20, 30 people around, yourprotection instincts take over
where you're like I cannot let acitizen get hit here.
I think you know and I point atyou know Marine Blood and Mr
Bill Fold.
I know those two guys served.
You know I'm trying to givesome sort of a relatable

(01:57:47):
instinct that I know that theycan relate to that.
We would absolutely protect,you know, civilians even more in
situations like that and Ithink that's where things like
that, where they're like holyshit, they fired.
You know 17 times they changedmagazines like yeah, because
they can't risk that guy gettingoff a single round.

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
There's too many people around he would just
gotten out of the vehiclewithout the gun and just put his
hands up.
He'd probably be alive.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Yeah, harrison said this motherfucker's got a
staccato.
Of course he does.
I'm so jealous.
He said I can drop 17 rounds inunder two seconds with my
staccato.
Yeah, see, I'm trying to tellpeople the amount of rounds you
can get off is incredible.
So for those listening tonightso far, we're right around the
two-hour mark.

(01:58:37):
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If you really like what we'redoing, if you just want to
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Guys, I am not a pusher of youhave to spend your hard-earned

(02:00:06):
money on our broke asses here.
We're going to keep doing thisno matter what, because we like
it and it's fun and we gotbeautiful faces like Tim showing
up on our….

Speaker 7 (02:00:15):
Yeah, I had to spend $30 on this thing behind me to
get my green screen up there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Hey, but you know what?
You look divine in the stars,buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
Yeah, I was looking for something, what I wanted to
do as a background, because meand Alan were talking earlier
about the lighting, I said well,I'm going to bring another lamp
in and do all this kind ofstuff and get it all set up.
But yeah, I ended up going toget one of those Japanese or
Chinese dividers, three dividers.
I just went to Ali and boughtone one and I stapled my green

(02:00:52):
screen up there and called it aday.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Yep, I got one of those.
Uh, at my house.
Actually, when my old house wedidn't have a bathroom door in
the master bedroom, so just tohave a little bit of privacy
from the damn animals and mykids, I put one, one of those
Japanese tri-waffled thingsthere oh that is yeah, and we've
had that ever since.
But no, tim, I very muchappreciate you taking the time,

(02:01:17):
spending the money to do thethings that we were.
You know we do have some minorrequirements to get people on
here, having a camera, havingsome good audio, because that
all goes into what we do for thequality of the show.
Dude, you sound great.
You sound great and everybodyout there listening.

(02:01:39):
Make sure you guys give Timsome props for having the balls
to show up on the show tonightand speak his mind, because it
is not easy.
It's one of those things wheretyping your thoughts out is easy
, but when you know you're onthe spot, people are listening

(02:02:01):
and they're going to tear youapart like they tear us apart
sometimes.
When you screw up on your words, it does.
It becomes a little bit of amind fuck if you will.

Speaker 7 (02:02:11):
I was nervous.
I was nervous joining tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
You did great buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:02:16):
Getting the words out , Trying to say okay, here's
what is going on and I know ifyou ever have me back then I'll
be here, because I'm here everynight You'll be back, buddy.
But, like I said, I've beenwanting to do stuff like this
all day, all the time, talkingwith Matt about it going.
Hey man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
I'm actually going to be taking a trip up to see Matt
this summer, yeah, and I'mhoping you showing up I'm hoping
you coming on inspires some ofour other guys, especially our
members that have been on youknow, mr Belford and some of
those other guys LikeConstitutional Country Girl.
I hope it inspires them to jumpon with us because I would love

(02:02:58):
to have our members be able tocome on and speak their mind.
And you know Andy Fletcher he'sanother one.
You know he'd jump on here andtear me apart.
I'm just going to be standingthere like fuck, I don't know.
Some of you guys destroy me inconversation.
Shout out to Harrison Brock Dang, harrison Brock gave us a super

(02:03:19):
sticker tonight.
$50 worth of super sticker.
Appreciate that.
That is uh-oh.
And then shotguns and tattoos.
Let's see how the membershipgifts go tonight.
Guys.
We still don't know what thedeal is with those.
It looks like it's workingright now.
She gifted five memberships.
Shotguns and tattoos did so.

(02:03:40):
Let's see who got those.
Christian Huesley, extraDevastation Trinity Cook and
Jazz and King Also I guess I wasone more there Cry Gordon I
don't think I've seen any ofthose names chat with us.

Speaker 7 (02:04:02):
More like your subscribers.
You got like 13.4k or somethinglike that.
It goes to any of thosesubscribers.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
I got you.
Yeah Well, we've been runninginto the problem.
You saw like we had some peoplereport that they got refunds
sent back to them, no clue why.
Looking at the settings,everything is fine.
There's no limitation.
So I don't know why it saysthat.
Andy said nobody wants to lookat me.
We agree on 90% of stuff, ifnot more.

(02:04:31):
That makes me feel good.
I'm glad we do agree on a lotof things.
And I'm glad you guys arewilling.

Speaker 7 (02:04:40):
I was going to say Marine, but he said oh wait, is
that the Tim from chat?

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Yes, same one, it's me wait, is that the tim from
chat?
Yes, same one, it's me.
Yep, tim from chat.
Yeah, now you got to see theugly mug.
Yes, uh, country girl giftedfive more memberships.
I'm seeing ian got one.
Lacy r, let's see who else.
Kesha and ryan was chattingtonight.

(02:05:06):
Okay, so Ryan got one.
Somebody that was chattingtonight.
I do believe that I've alsoseen Ian talk on here before, so
that's pretty cool.
Thank you, country Girl.
Thank you very much for thegifts Shotguns and tattoos.
Thank you for the gifts.
Yeah, I would love to give theopportunity for a lot of our
members and stuff like that.

(02:05:26):
Mr Billfold said it wasrefunded because it says the
gift was not claimed, so I don'tknow what that means.
We got to figure that out.

Speaker 7 (02:05:36):
What that is is when it's sent out to the 13.1 case
subscribers you got.
If that subscriber doesn'tclaim that gift, then it it goes
back out.
It literally returns backWhenever they send a gift out.
It goes to a random 13,000people in your subscribers.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Then they have to claim it.
Ryan shots fired.
Thank you, Country Girl.

Speaker 7 (02:06:07):
Just glad Marine Bloods didn't get one damn yeah,
he's still sitting with thatone, isn't he?

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
no, he's been trying forever.
If I could just gift him one, Iwould.
I just don't, I don't have theability.
It doesn't.
Let you from our end.
Some of those people aren't inchat tonight that got
memberships fair.
Yeah, like that's what I'msaying.
I don't understand it's.

Speaker 7 (02:06:30):
YouTube for you.
Man that got memberships Fair.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
It's YouTube for you, man.
They just do weird.
Don't get it.
I know right, I don't get it.
Yeah.
So thank you everybody forputting up with what bare
minimum shitty bones I can dohere.
We can do the smaller screens.
I'm limited to what I can do in.
We can do the smaller screens.
I'm limited to what I can do inthis freaking room with the
wireless Wi-Fi stuff and whatnot, but we're getting it done.

(02:06:56):
I think tonight's show waspretty good.
We're at the two-hour mark.
I know Alan's got some morevideos queued up, but I've got
some stuff going on in themorning.
I can't go all night.
Unfortunately, harrison Brockgifted 10 memberships.
Okay, so it's not showing thememberships.

(02:07:16):
So this is what I'm talkingabout.
For some reason it'll let youdo a few memberships and already
it's not showing it anymore.
Off what gif settings and turnit back on.
I'm reading what steve wallacesaid.
Yeah, maybe that's what.
Let me go to my.

(02:07:37):
Let me see if I can do it frommy telephone.

Speaker 7 (02:07:40):
I know there's a setting in there that you can
actually have your, your membersliterally on the bottom of the
page or above, below videos, andit will show the members on on
the on your page when they go toyour page and it'll just have
like little circles, like theydo on facebook, and it'll say

(02:08:00):
you have so many members, blah,blah, blah, and it'll say join
or if you're part of the, sayperks if you're already there.
So I don't have that.
Is that if you're part of itit'll say perks if you're
already?

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
there, I don't have that.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 7 (02:08:09):
No, all you have on yours is join, where it says see
perks on me and then subscribe,or subscribe, depending on what
you are.
It'd be right beside your nameunder your video.

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
That's crazy, because when I'm looking at the options
, I don't see any.
I'm looking at it right now.
Okay, you've got it on here Onyour main page.

Speaker 7 (02:08:32):
You go straight to your main page.
It says our members Thank you,channel members.
And then it'll say it'll haveabout eight or nine of them in a
row and then afterwards, ifyou're a member, it'll say
Cperks.
I'm a little bit of a youtubefanatic.
I know how to do all thesettings and do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
So okay, I must be on the wrong part.
Okay, you said go to my youtubemain youtube page okay, I'm at
my main youtube page.

Speaker 7 (02:09:02):
You see all your videos.
It's top and bottom and youshould just hold that.
It should have your mainbreakdown video, whatever one
you pinned, which would be thelatest one, and then under that
it should say our members.
But if you don't see that, itwould be on your.

Speaker 1 (02:09:23):
Okay, I see members Okay.

Speaker 7 (02:09:27):
Of course, if you're a member it'll say see perks,
manage membership and all that.
So they do show up on who themembers are, but you should see
where it says manage members.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
Members only videos.
Loyalty badges, early access.

Speaker 7 (02:09:47):
I wouldn't call my tech support, but your
membership unlocks a world ofbenefits.
So you're not a member of yourown channel.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
I'm not Early access, yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:10:02):
Are you on Two Cops, One Donut on your phone or are
you under your air?

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Yeah, no, no, I'm under Two Cops, one Donut,
because I can manage my videosand do all that.
I don't fucking know, dude,it's so annoying.
One day, guys, I'll figure allthis shit out.
This is the problem with beinga cop.
I'm dumb.

Speaker 7 (02:10:24):
Just get a hold of me one day I'll walk you through
it all it's.
What does this say?

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
I, I'm dumb just get a hold of me one day I'll walk
you through it all it's.
Oh, what does this say?
I see something about Air Force.
At least you weren't Air Force.
They eat their own boogers.
Cg eats each other's boogerslisten leave me alone.

Speaker 7 (02:10:42):
I thought the Air Force was the one that ate the
crown wrappers right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
thank you, patrick True Love said I thought the Air
Force was the one that ate thecrown wrappers.
Right, thank you, patrick TrueLove said at least boogers don't
have chemicals in them, right.

Speaker 7 (02:10:54):
And the Army was the one that ate the boxes.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
Yeah, oh shit, All right guys.
I got nothing else for you,Alan.
You got any departing words ofwisdom, sir?

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
No, like always, just glad everybody came and joined
us.
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Two-hour show.

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
Keep sending us videos and we'll look at them,
maybe when we have time.

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
Please don't get offended if I can't get to it,
if I don't respond to certainthings.
Guys like I'm trying to likeprioritize the members.
I'm trying to prioritize, youknow, people that have regularly
shown some loyalty to the show.
It only because we just getinundated with so much stuff now
, like I, got to kind of startweeding people out.

(02:11:47):
Unfortunately, so so much stuffnow, like I, I gotta kind of
start weeding people outunfortunately so well, and they
also we.

Speaker 3 (02:11:50):
We have a lot.
We have other things going onbehind the scenes, guys, that
we're, you know, we're not readyto talk about, but you know we
we're working on getting it allaccomplished.
So, uh, we can always make itbetter and better.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
So yeah, I have a feeling once we're able to kind
of let you guys know what we gotin the works, it's gonna be
like just a snowball effect ofcrazy shit that we got going on.
You guys are gonna love it, atleast that's the hope.
So look forward.
There are some cool thingscoming.
Country girls still trying toget me, get them, and no, I have

(02:12:24):
no clue what's coming.
They haven't previewed me tothat information, so don't
message me asking me what yougot coming, because I have no
clue.
Yeah, mag Dumps asking if wewill have the entire crew.
We're going to try.

Speaker 3 (02:12:41):
Yesterday we had the entire crew.
So you see what we have rightnow.

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
So it's just kind of how it goes, guys.
Shit happens and you knowbanning's wife's like you're
taking me out.
The same thing happened withmatt matt's wife's like you're
taking me out.
So is what it is.
It's just part of the you knowhappy wife, happy life if we
made money doing this, likemaybe there would be definitely
more commitment.
But we don't, but we're workingon it.

(02:13:11):
It's pretty close.

Speaker 7 (02:13:13):
I feel honored to be here tonight and honored to have
you back.
Glad you joined us.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
Glad you joined, bud.
We'll have you back anytime,Not a problem.
It's fun to have people thataren't cops on here too, simply
because you have a differentperspective.

Speaker 7 (02:13:26):
Yeah, hops on here too, simply because you have a
different perspective.
Yeah, and also I don't want tosay anything, but uh, you told
you were told me earlier, butare you going to let people know
when you're going to be back?

Speaker 1 (02:13:34):
oh yeah, I'll be back the 19th, that's my.
My last day is the 19th, soprobably the 20th or 21st
somewhere a week after that.

Speaker 7 (02:13:40):
I didn't want to say it because I know you told me,
but yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Say that no, it's not a trade secret.
I can't wait to get back.
Trust me, I don't I.
I I love my time here.
I do.
I think I really help becauseI'm a trainer, so I'm training
young airmen how to be cops.
So it's a lot of fun for me.
I like doing it, but I'm awayfrom my family.
They can't be here and, like myoldest kid, she's flying to

(02:14:06):
peru tomorrow.
I don't even get to say goodbyelike how I would like to.
Uh, she's in orchestra, she's.
She's my genius when I say thatliterally she is she's smarter
than him yeah, oh yeah.
They have this star exam thingin texas.
She scored a perfect score onit every time, like she's
legitimately a genius.
So I try to tell people.

(02:14:27):
She plays the viola.
She's in a bunch of orchestrastuff.
She's really good, really smart, but she's flying out of
country to go play in anorchestra.
This is her first real timeaway, so I'm very sad I don't
get to go say goodbye to her.
But are you cracking somethingopen over there, alan?

(02:14:48):
You little stinky.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
That would be me.
It was Dan oh okay, I heard it.

Speaker 7 (02:14:55):
Yeah, I have something stupid I have to do.
I pour cans of Mountain Dewinto a bottle because my dogs
like to get in this stuff andnot over it, and if I keep it in
a bottle and keep refilling mybottle up, I don't get a mess I
like it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
So adapt and overcome .
Baby, gotta get you one ofthese little uh yeti cups and I,
you could I do like that I'venever bought a yeti, I've never
paid for one.
They've been gifts I've I'vegot 70 of these fucking Yetis.
Like in all different shapesand sizes.
Never bought a single one ofthem.

Speaker 7 (02:15:34):
There's just some stuff out there.
All you're doing is paying forthe name.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
Yep, alan cracked open a White Claw.
White Claws taste like TVstatic.
Sorry, that's just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
That's why you just don't get any classier than than
that patrick, you're right, Ido drink from a bottle, not a
can a lot of people don't peoplesee me and they don't believe
it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
But I do not drink alcohol I don't know it's the
worst thing I do I was gonna sayyou look like you toke weed all
day long tim oh god, I wish Icould it's still illegal here.

Speaker 7 (02:16:14):
It's still illegal here in indiana, so oh is it yep
, it's still illegal huh damn.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Jess denson said eric yeti contest, right, how many
yetis do you have?

Speaker 7 (02:16:26):
I got a shitload as soon as they make it legal.
I'm going to be on camera likethis right, hey guys, I can't, I
can't guys no, I'm not thereyet.
I'm retired.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
When I retire.
All right, y'all.
Everybody, thank you forjoining in.
Have a good night and we willsee you next Monday or Tuesday
night.
We'll see what happens Later.
Guys, Take it easy.

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