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January 13, 2024 37 mins

OB and Swaz engage in a candid conversation about finding a balance between taking life seriously and holding it lightly. The discussion revolves around the idea of approaching life with a sense of responsibility and purpose while also maintaining a lighthearted perspective. The hosts explore topics related to personal growth, relationships, and navigating major life change with resilience. By sharing insights and anecdotes, they aim to inspire fellow dudes to connect and grow.

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