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June 3, 2025 65 mins
Today on Two Mikes, Dr. Michael Scheuer and Col. Mike are joined by Victorhugo, a seasoned American artist and geopolitical commentator currently based in Tbilisi, Georgia. In this no-holds-barred conversation, Victorhugo pulls back the globalist curtain, delivering a fearless critique of Israel’s outsized influence and the undeniable pattern of elite Jewish-American involvement in dismantling Western civilization from within. From Mao’s revolution to the corruption of Congress, abortion culture, and the Marxist rot in academia, Victorhugo lays out a hard-hitting timeline of subversion that connects the dots the mainstream refuses to touch. A raw, unfiltered deep dive into the uncomfortable truths hiding in plain sight.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(01:15):
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(01:58):
thank you for listening, thank you for visiting the sponsors.
And today we have a special guest, Oh my Gosh
Life from Tabase, Georgia, and he's got his own show.
It's on bits Shoot. His name is Victor Hugo. We
were introduced to him by a former guest that's been
on our show before and very exciting guy. Also a

(02:19):
former you know, born and raised New Yorker in the
same hospital as dj T too. So you know when
they come out of Queens at Brooklyn and Manhattan, they
got a lot of smarts, you know what I mean.
It's like you can look over your shoulder while you're
looking forward, and like I say, Victor Hugo. If you're
born in New York, you can start with ten points.
You get ten points advantage over everybody else. And I

(02:42):
think it's still true today. So welcome to the two
Mic Show. Excited to have you on. We're going to
get a new perspective on you know, because I lived
in the Third World too for a long time, back
and forth, so I understand. You know, living somewhere else,
you can tell us about where you lived before where
you are now. And people don't get it. You know.
They go on vacations, you know, baham His Mexico, Thailand

(03:06):
or Japan or whatever, and they come home and they're tourists,
but they don't get the real skinny because they don't
live there a couple of more days, you know. So
welcome Victim, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's honor and a pleasure to be reunited with doctor
Michael Schure. I met him in the green room at
Fox News in Washington, d C. When I did my
infamous Megan Kelly debate about art being in the eye
of the Beholder. I don't know if you remember that, doctor,

(03:39):
but I sure did. And I've been living here very kindzer.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I've been going from there a long time, from everywhere
for a long time. But I'm embarrassed to say I
don't remember, sir well.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I was looking forward to meeting you again because when
I met you in the green room, the topic that
you had was about Osama bin Laden and Obama had
claimed that they had captured him and assassinated him and
thrown him overboard, and just believe everything that your government
tells you. And yeah, meeting you in the green room

(04:12):
was interesting because I never believed that Osama bin Laden
was actually involved in the whole September eleventh, and I
never believed that he was thrown overboard. I think him
like Jeffrey Epstein, even though I know Cash Patel and
Dan Bongino are now swearing that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself,

(04:32):
I don't believe that. I think there's a place.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, Victor, this morning, I was just telling Mike.
I was just telling Mike this morning. You know there's
a lot of stories now on this X thing, you know,
with Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, And I told Mike
this morning, I said, you know, Mike, Dan Bongino had
all the solutions when he had a podcast on Rumble,
so all we have to do is go back to

(04:55):
Rumble and look at some of his past shows, because
if you remember, no matter what was going on in
the news, whether it was domestic or international, Pongino had
a solution. He knew everything. But not for these the
system director, it's like, hold on a minute. You know,
it takes some time. Now, it does take Mike, what
do you call that when they say hold on a
minute and take it takes time. I remember you mentioned

(05:18):
something about that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I just I my skin curls up when I hear
somebody say, oh, it's so complicated, it's going to take
time to do this. They're trying to get something past you.
You know, there's there's there's there's complicated things in engineering,
but in politics it's not much. If they're going to
say complicated, it really is just to buy time to

(05:40):
somehow screw you.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I think, well, you worked in counter terrorism, Victor, he
worked in counter terrorism with the FBI. You know how
astute they are, right Mike?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh yeah, yeah. Their great plan is to find one
dumb Muslim, have him find another one, and then set
them up for an operation and claim victory.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, it's really not that complicated.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's really not.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's what I find so astounding about the country that
I love, the United States. It's become so convoluted that
everybody knows which side is up and backwards. It's forwards
and lies have become truth. It's really embarrassing because I'm
watching this from the outside end through the looking glass
in a developing nation. That's very important because it's a

(06:28):
gateway country between Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and the EU.
And during the COVID plandemic, it was the only country
that was open that was allowing goods to funnel through
from Russia to the Ukraine and to the EU. And
I was witnessing firsthand how that whole boycott against Russia

(06:52):
was actually failing because everything was still being funneled through
this country. Anyway, A lot of people don't even realize
the port in Batumi is where the stuff that was
used to blow up Beirut. I don't know if you remember.
A couple of years ago, there was it looked like
an explode, a nuclear explosion that came out of Batumi, Georgia.

(07:16):
This is a very important logistics place in the world,
and it's interesting how the world looks at this place
because China's all over this place with their Belt and
Road initiative. They need this. Russia is keeping an eye
on this place because of the Lugar bio Lab. Michael,
I'm sure you're aware of the Lugar bio lab here,

(07:39):
which when I landed after escaping China two hours before
the last border closed on the day that the Wuhan
whistle blower, doctor Leewin langded my handler Huai Ping Wang.
As we're landing into Belize airport, he goes, oh, did
you know that a bioweapons lab is just five miles
away from here? The US government at say bioweapons lab,

(08:02):
it's the Lugar bio Lab. And he's like, supposedly this
is where the bioweapon went from Fort Dietchrich I think
in the United States to Germany. From Germany Tiblisi at
the Lugar bio Lab. From Tiblisi the embassy, they were
able to just take the veils of bioweapons, put it
in their purses or briefcases, and then fly it to

(08:25):
the Ukraine, and then from the Ukraine it got to Wuhan.
So it was amazing. I knew this in February of
twenty twenty. Meanwhile, the whole rest of the world was
acting as if they didn't know what was going on.
And then I got interviewed for two hours by a
producer at CBS News sixty minutes in New York City.

(08:46):
The narrative that I gave didn't go at all with
the fear mongering that they were trying to produce psyop,
so they never aired the interview. And that's when I realized, oh, okay,
I see what's going on. The media involved in this too.
I couldn't believe it. CIS News interviewed me two hours
for a sixty minute segment and none of it aired.

(09:08):
They could have saved lives because I was exposing what
was going on And the reason I knew what was
going on was because Hui Ping Wang, which I reported
to the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the CIA.
I said, I have the emails to prove all this.
I said, Hui Ping Wang wants me to be the
guy going on television through Europe and then in the

(09:29):
United States. The Hui Ping Wong told me I was
going to be rich and famous because I was going
to be the guy selling the personal protective equipment, selling
all the masks doing the deal with Governor Newsom. I
was going to be selling the vaccines. And that's when
the light bulb went off on my head, because, like
you said, Colonel, like us New Yorkers aren't stupid. I

(09:49):
was like, wait a minute, this is February twenty twenty.
When I was living in China. I was living near
a hospital, and I didn't see the hospitals full like
they were showing it's all production, like the CBS News massade.
Agent said, we're the producers, we're the directors, we write
the screenplay, we're producing a film. The world is watching

(10:10):
a film. And so I sat back and I was like,
wait a minute, you want me to sell vaccines. There's
a vaccine for this goes.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
That was the mussad MSNBC massad MSNBC Network.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah yeah. So then I said, you know what I
don't want. I went on live television and to Belisi,
and I spilled the beans because I figured I was
on live TV. They couldn't stop me. Of course, Qui
Pengwan afterwards was like, oh, you can't say that stuff.
I said, you can't tell me what to say. I'm
not in China anymore. So then he goes, well, you're
coming with us to check Republic and you're going to
go on television there, but you can't say what you

(10:48):
just said here. I said, I'm not going anywhere. I'm
staying right here, and he says, well, if you don't
do what we tell you, you know, we'll find somebody else
and we'll kill you. So I started getting death threats,
and that's when I started this podcast, because it was
really more of me trying to tell my family and
friends in the United States that I'm not suicidal and

(11:10):
if anything happens to me, because they were threatening to
throw me off the top of a high rise building.
They were threatening, they were telling me to watch my back,
you know. So I was getting all the death threats,
and I was posting all these death threats on my
video diary and I was keeping a video diet, but
nobody was watching it because my channel was being censored
on YouTube because I was calling it the China virus,

(11:32):
so they said that I was racist. They censored me
on LinkedIn and banned my account on LinkedIn because they
also said by using China virus, I was racist. So
again then I started realizing, wow, not only is this
a siop involving the fake mainstream news media, but it's
also involving social media. And then of course I looked

(11:54):
into LinkedIn and I realized that guy was involved with
Jeffrey Epstein, and I said, okay, I see where this
is going here. And then I started hearing them talk
about the new World Order and what was it that
the guy Schwab and Soro said that this was going
to be the reset, the great Reset, And then I

(12:14):
started going, oh, okay, I see this is going to
be because the dollar is going to collapse and they're
going to try to bring in a CBDC, which the
Chinese already used there because when you live in China,
nobody uses cash. They all use this thing called WhatsApp
that you can pay for your stick, a gum pack

(12:34):
of cigarettes, pay your electric, pay your rent, pay your internet.
Everything is through WhatsApp, which is what Elon Musk is
trying to do, the problem with that is that there's
cameras everywhere, so if you jwalk in China, your social
credit score gets taken down. Anyway, when I was in China,
I lived on my best behavior because I was warned

(12:55):
by the State Department if I go there, don't do drugs,
don't want pornography, don't used the three t's, don't talk
about Taiwan to back victory.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Remember years ago, the saying was, well, it all started
in California. Like the trends, remember music or clothing. It
starts in the West Coast, then it comes to the
East coast. That's exactly what's happening with China. Whatever happens
in China eventually will come here. We have the Patriot Act.
Sounds nice. Patriot Act. Oh gosh, you could do a

(13:25):
whole George Collins skit with the Patriot Act. Right, And
what's the other one? Like ndaa, yeah, ndaa, Oh, my gosh,
another acronym. We are the United States of acronyms. And
then you look at it. It's an oxymoron. There's nothing
patriotic about the Act.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, that's what I was shocked to discover when I
moved to China and I lived there. I had a
ten year visa to work there as a cultural ambassador.
I founded the Modern Art Music movement, which is the
fusion of art, music, film, fashion, literature, and education, fostering peace, love,
and compassionate wealth worldwide. And I was asked by advisors

(14:06):
Dizijingping to work with masters in the art world of China.
And I was meeting with advisors Di zijing Ping because
nothing gets exhibited without his approval or somebody in his
realm's approval. And I was the first artist to exhibit
nudes at Art Canton twenty nineteen. The only reason I

(14:27):
was able to do it was because my nudes are abstract.
They're not in your face, you know, like porn. And
I was also the first artist to speak about free
speech and censorship at a public forum that was televised
and broadcast to millions of people in China. And the
only reason I was able to get away with that
was because I was speaking about censorship in the United States.

(14:50):
And see, the Chinese were using me as an example
that the Chinese is essentially full of shit. They claimed
to be the land of the free and free speech
and that you can, you know, have a First Amendment.
But I've been censored since I came out of the
gate as an artist. And I was on stut Peters

(15:10):
recently and he noted that I'm one of the most
censored people, and it's only because I'm speaking the truth.
It's like George orwell, the truth has become illegal now.
And so anyway, when I was in China, they were
more than happy to have me speak about what I
found out organically, because what happened was I was a
whistleblower at the US Naval Academy. After leaving Brooklyn Tech,

(15:32):
I was accepted to the Newport, Rhode Island Naval Academy
prep school, and if I had passed that, then I
could go into the US Naval Academy. And I just
so happened to be in the same class as Carter Page.
Well he was a class ahead of me, but I
knew of Carter Page because I was in the class
of nineteen ninety three. So when that whole Russian collusion

(15:53):
thing came out, it was like strange to me because
I remember when I was at the Naval Academy and
it was an infamous class because that was class that
made world headlines because of the torture and hazing and
the rape of female midshipman that was going on there.
And so this was before the Internet. It was on
the Washington Post, the New York Times and everything, and

(16:14):
I was the only person who had the nerve the
tenacity to do the right thing. And I witnessed the
sexual assault of a female midshipmen, and even though I
had a gun to my head and a knife to
my throat, I said the truth. And so basically I
backed up the story that this girl had and all
the other people there were a lot of other witnesses,

(16:36):
they all backed down because they were all afraid. And
that's when I realized, holy cow, we've got toxic leadership
at the highest levels of the US military. And I
tried to warn the world. Ever since then, I started
letting people know. I went on television, I was a whistleblower.
But then, of course, doctor sure you know this. A

(17:00):
CIA agent showed up out of nowhere at the Miami
Bayside Mall and approached my father and I and he said, hey, listen,
we saw your son on television the other day and
he claims he's going to be writing a book about this.
We can't tell your son what to do, but we
highly advise him not to do that. And then he

(17:23):
walked back out into the crowd, and my father looked
at me and he was like, well, son, you heard
what the man said. I can't tell you what to
do either, but it seems like they don't want you
writing this book. So I went into hiding for a
few years until I ended up and I can't make
this up, guys. I ended up developing a relationship with

(17:45):
a serial killer spinal surgeon named doctor Charles C. Edwards
who works out of Mercy Hospital in the Baltimore, DC area,
and he starts confessing to me how to kill people.
He says, Victor, you can always get away with murder
in the United States because you could always count on
cops being overworked, underpaid and lazy, and lawyers being greedy.

(18:08):
So I was like, well, you know, I'm going to
have to say something about this, right, I can't just like,
have you confessing murder to me? He goes, that's all right,
they won't believe you. And I go, well, why are
you telling me this? He goes, because I need somebody
to write my story. I'm trying to be the most
prolific serial killer in history, and I need you to
write my story for me. So I was like, that's

(18:29):
when I wrote the story of the Crack at Jesus Trials,
which was banned and censored because people thought I was
mocking Jesus Christ. When everybody knows crack was invented in
eighties by Richard Pryor So anyway, that was based on
a true story of a tenant of mine who got
high on crack, went to work, got on his desk,
proclaimed to all his employees that he was the new Mession,

(18:50):
that they were now as disciples. So his wife calls
me an a paddic because I was his landlord, and
she goes, oh my god, my husband lost his job.
He thinks he's Jesus Jesus complex. So I show up
there to pick up the rent. I said, what's going on?
He goes, Jesus, don't pay the rent. I said, listen, mister,
unless the footage of you walking across that pool, Bank

(19:10):
of America is not going to believe that I'm renting
to the new Messiah. And then the housing crisis broke,
remember the two thousand and eight bags too Big to Fail.
And he taught me a lesson that people now in
the United States are learning. It's called squatters' rights. Because
this was in Florida. And he goes, listen, Victor. He
sat me down. He told me the whole thing about
the whole great reset and everything because this has been planned.

(19:34):
So that made the guy lose his mind. So he
sits me down and he tells me the whole story,
and I'm in my thirties at that year. I'm like idealistic.
You know, I couldn't believe what I was hearing, and
lo and behold, everything he said came true. He goes, Listen,
I'm going to show you how corrupt the justice system is.
He goes. Not only am I not going to pay
your rent? He goes, You're not going to be able

(19:55):
to shut off the electric of the water. You're not
going to be able to change the locks.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
He goes.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
If you do, I'll have you arrested. And I'm thinking
to myself, this guy's full of crap. So I tried
changing the locks. The cops show up, they tell me
I'm not allowed on my own property. And then when
I go to the court, the judge looks at me.
He goes, oh, listen, this guy's homeless. You can't a victim.
He needs a place to live and you can't shut
off his water or electric. So I start, I'm like,

(20:19):
how am I running a business here where I got
to sustain all of a sudden, all my tenants because
of the housing crisis, because of the two thousand and
eight nobody was paying me. So that's what's happening now
with a lot of people. Remember with the COVID, they
were saying, you can't charge you know, you can't collect rent.
So anyway, I went through all this stuff. I tried
to write a graphic novel about it. It was censored.

(20:40):
I had a contract to self publish it, but the
owner of the publishing company said he he thought it
was disgusting again because of the title Crackhead Jesus. And
I wasn't going to change the title because that's what
the story is about. It's about this crackhead Jesus who
led me down this rabbit hole that we're all living
in now. So that's why I moved to China, because
I say, you know what, I could spend thousands of

(21:01):
dollars and years in the corrupt justice system trying to
get this book published, or I could just move to
China and get it published there for less than that,
and I can make the movie series there as well.
So that's what I did. I moved to China, and
my life has never been the same.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Interesting very interesting. So where was the housing. Was that
in Florida or New York?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That was in Florida and it was in near Pompino.
I actually lived close to mar A Lago.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh okay, So I used to.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Be living on Millionaire's Row in Hillsboro Beach. I don't
know if you're familiar.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
With that, and now I'm not. I did it in
the sixties, but I haven't been there in a while.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, the irony of how life is now, I'm living
on the kindness of strangers through the donations that I
get from the viewers of the show. You can go
to Victor Hugo collection dot com, scroll to the bottom
of the page and you'll see my channels on Rumble
and bit Shoot, which interestingly enough, have also been censored. Guys,
I've discovered that there's co intel pro in the old

(22:10):
news media that are gatekeepers.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh, Victor, I can tell you a story about Rumble
with Mike. How we started this thing five years ago
this month we started the podcast. Mike and I used
to do radio and somebody came to us they were
going into this podcast thing five years ago, and hey,
you want to do this. I had no idea what

(22:35):
they would talk about they didn't pay attention Zara, how
do you do it? We'll record it, Okay, we'll put
it up. So we started up on this network. It
was two young guys, Freedom First Network, and they had
their show and another guy's show, and maybe I think
it was total of two or three shows. And then
we go on there and you know, we just send
the recording and they put the show up. And you know,
you know, people they know Michael Shoy here. He's a

(22:57):
no name. You know, he writes books, you know, so
on and so forth. But the people locally in our area,
the Metro DC area, they knew us from the radio
show down in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
We did.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
However, you know, we're there about a month or so
whatever I forgot how long, and these guys call us up.
Oh my gosh, you won't believe what happened. Well, I
figured we were getting canceled. You know, it's Michael Shower.
Sooner or later, they're going to catch up. The ADL,
all those good people a DL and the rest of them.
They make sure they catch you, you know, Southern Poverty
Law Center, all the all the oxymoron places. I said, well,

(23:27):
we're going to get thrown off this thing too, now right, okay, Well,
now what happened is on Apple podcast Victor, we beat
Mark Levin by about five points on the Richter scale,
which was like, wow, you know, we're only honest thing
a little while. How do we beat Levin? And you
know levin In and Michael Schure is like gasoline at
matches anyway, you know, Fox News. And then we beat

(23:49):
Glenn Beck he had three shows up on Apple. We
beat him in three categories. So we beat Glenn Beck
and Michael and Mark Levin, you know, within a couple
of months of being on this and we just took
off like a rocket, and all of a sudden, thirteen
countries are following us, and in thirteen countries on Apple podcasts,
we were underneath one hundred and the top one hundred

(24:09):
podcasts internationally. Some of the movie we were over two hundred,
you know, but thirteen countries were following us. Europe, Asia, Africa,
Australia was on. People were listening from all over the world,
you know, like the two mics, Who the hell are
these guys? You know, what do they do? You know,
what's happening? You know, we just had conversation like what
you're talking about. We would talk about with different guests,

(24:32):
unique people, you know, and we just took off like
a rocket ship. And the next thing you know, Rumble
comes out and we're on Rumble. And some of our
guests were pulling sixty to one hundred thousand views of
a show. And then they joined with a company called Locals.
Who's another guy who used to have a podcast, and
he's a berg by the way, And all of a sudden,

(24:55):
our views go down from one hundred thousand to sixty
thousand to three three thousand to two thousand, and we
got fourteen thousand subscribers or something like that, right, and
now you can't pull more than three hundred views. We
were down to twenty one hundred views. Now we're lucky
if we get three hundred. You talk about Rumble, you
talk about these guys. They're all in the same tank.

(25:15):
They cancel you in a different way. It's like X,
It's like Rumble. They're all the same. No matter what,
you know, the top podcast is on Rumble are pretty
much gatekeepers. And you know, what do you call what
do you call those guys? Mike, I forgot you know,
they work for the other side anyway, but they look
like they're the real guys, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Pulled opposition.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
They're all control position exactly. That's it, Victor, there's all
if you see big numbers on Rumble, it's all controlled opposition.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah. And what I'm discovering now, and what's really interesting
is the algorithmic exile that we experience if we give
just a little bit too much truth or start getting
popular with the audience. I at one time on Bitchoot
was reaching one hundred thousand views per video, and then

(26:06):
I posted a warning about the dual citizenship, clear and
present danger that lawmakers in the United States have loyalty
to Israel first and then to the United slaves of America,
and boy if overnight, as soon as that started trending
on bit shoot around thirty six thousand views after just

(26:28):
a couple of hours. My viewership the next day and
henceforth thereafter have barely scratched between like you said, two
hundred and one thousand views per video, even though the
subscribers that I have on my channel keep increasing, so
I've got more subscribers, less views, And the same thing

(26:49):
has happened where I happened to again. These things that
happened to me, and I do believe in destiny. That's
why I live without fear, because I'm like, you know what,
this is so incredible. I can't make this stuff up.
I'm not that talented of an artist where I could
just make up these stories of meeting a serial killer,

(27:11):
spinal surgeon, and a crackhead Jesus. So my show starts
picking up. I start going on shows like Sgt. Report,
Stu Peters, Mike Adams, and Jim Fetzer. I became a
regular on Jim Fetzer's shows. And then I start noticing
that because I'm living here in an orthodox Christian country,

(27:34):
I'm noticing that there's a trend. And this never happened
when I lived in the United States because I grew
up in Long Island. I used to live behind the
Long Island Jewish Hospital. I went to Brooklyn Tech. I
used to hang out with Jews all the time. And
when I lived in Florida, I lived near Boca Raton
and I used to hang out with Jews all the time.

(27:55):
So like, Jews are my friends. I was the shop
is going. But when I moved to China, Chinese were like,
oh yeah, no, did you not know about the Mao
Revolution that was totally orchestrated by the Jews. Communism is Jewish.
I was like, really, I must have missed that in
school because they never taught us about that. All we
learned was about the Holocaust and how exactly six million

(28:15):
people died, not six million and one, not five million,
nine hundred and ninety nine, nine hundred and ninety. You know,
it's like ridiculous. So then I end up escaping China.
I moved to the former Soviet Union, where these people
are like, oh, you never heard of the Bolshevik Revolution.
I go, yeah, but they kind of glossed over that
in the United States. What's up with that? Oh yeah,

(28:36):
the Bolsheviks they're Jews. Do you know about the Kazarian Mafia?
I go, no, never heard of it. They go, well,
you're in the homeland of the Kazarian mafia that started
in the Caucasus mountains from Georgia to the Ukraine. And
then I start meeting Ukrainians because I'm a camel ride
away from the Ukraine, and these people are like, oh,
you never heard of Helotomore. I'd say, what's that? They said, Oh,

(29:00):
you think the Holocaust was bad? These Jews created a
famine where they starved millions of people to death. I go,
the Jews would never do that. They're God's chosen people.
They go God to chosen people. Did you know that
the God they worship is Lucifer Of'm?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Like what? And that's when you went to the Bible
and you read the verse that said the Synagogue of Satan.
Jesus said, you're from the Synagogue of Satan. Nobody wants
to hear that, Victor, nobody wants to hear that. Oh.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And so all of a sudden, I start finding out
as I start going on the show, and the show
takes a switch because at that point, pretty much the
world figured out that the that the bioweapon disguised as
a vaccine was a depopulation plan, and that COVID was
a sigh up to see how obedient the goy are.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Oh, Victor, who made the Pfizer vax? Do you do
you have any idea? Was he Irish? Let's go for
number three Jeopardy Ready? Round one? Was he Irish? Round two?
Was he Maltese? Round three? Was he Italian? Okay? Or
was he never any one of those?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah? Everything about the Covid sy op and about the
depopulation plan. It's all Jewish and it's all been written down,
It's all documented.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
The anti semitism part of the show. Can you please
break in on this please before we get canceled. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
The nice thing.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
About being in China and in Russia is that I
know they do have like anti semitism laws, because what
I've noticed about the Jews is that they may not
be many, but they've got the trick of the Babylonian
magic trick. And as long as people are believing that
this money that's printed out of nothing, that has no value,

(30:48):
no intrinsic value, it's not like gold or silver, people
are willing to sell their souls. And it's happening all
over the world and I'm witnessing it. I was just
speaking to a young man out of Lebanon and he
was telling me how family and friends were killed in
that explosion that happened, and also with the beepers, because the.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh, it wasn't that disgusting, Victor, wasn't that terrible? The
beeper stuff?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Come on, yeah, But for two and a half million dollars,
the Jews have gotten this guy from Beirut to just
say eh, it's okay. And the thing is, I record
this show on the street. I interview people on the
street and you can hear him saying, yeah, I know
the Jews are killing us, but they're given me two
and a half million dollars, so that's okay as long

(31:38):
as they're giving me two and a half million. So
I'm like, Wow, your family, your friends, they've destroyed your
country and you're getting two and a half million. You're
cool with that. And the guy's like, yeah, so that's
what it is. And the same thing in the United States,
you know, Yeah, we didn't allow you to see your
dying grandmother during the COVID si op. We had your

(32:00):
kids growing up now that they're mentally debilitated.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Victor, Listen, the mental shit in America right now, right Mike,
I mean between the zombies walk in the street that
took the vacs right the jab, between the post COVID
young kids and just teenagers. Now, you know, coming out
of high school this year, graduating whatever, you have no idea,

(32:25):
I mean, no matter how bad it was when you
grew up in the New York in the area you
grew up in at the time, because you remember there
was a couple of kids that were tilted, retarded, whatever,
you know, back of the day. But it's like everybody's
a zombie now.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, and that's where I have been warning my brothers
and sisters in the United States. The Russians are tanks,
they're bears, they're walking like weapons, but they're super cool.
Guys like I feel safe around these people. Don't poke
the bear, is what I'm trying to tell the United States,

(33:00):
because you're not going to win. These people have something
that the United States lacks, which is unity and nationalism.
The same thing with the Chinese. When I spoke to them,
they told me Xijiping was their father. They spoke of
him as their dad. So I'm like, wow, these people,
you don't see that with Trump and.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
That patriotism here, Victor is basically marketing, you know. I mean,
Keith Keith has been on your show, and you've been
on shows with Keith and Keith. You know, he's a
deep dive kind of you know, looks at everything the
CIA did correct or wrong, you know, and now he
wants to go off the air because of whatever. And
it's fine, Well, you know what, you get depressed listen,
you live on the side of an Indian reservation in

(33:43):
a place nowhere three people in town. You know, you
got to go visit people. Sometimes you got to see
human beings, you know what I mean. But it's the
same thing here. It's marketing. Just yesterday, Memorial Day. Do
you know how many people do not know? There's a
US code. It's the only law on the books for
a flag how to do flag up and down, raise it,
lower it. It's actually a law. Because it was decoration

(34:05):
day from you know, the Civil War. Ninety nine percent
of the people just lower the flag for the whole day.
They have no idea what it is you're supposed to
according to the law, you're supposed to at sunrise put
the flag at half mass, and at twelve o'clock put
it full mass. You know, at twelve o'clock nobody knew
there was a code, or they don't teach people. It's marketing.

(34:25):
Yesterday was you get all the bullshit on TV, you know,
Proud to be American, you know, selling this and you
know all it's great. I mean, you get all the war,
the war films, the Black and Whites, Water Canal, Ewo Jima,
you know, Mike always says it. We haven't won a
war since World War Two. Let's face it. Okay, so
that's it. I mean, go from there, But what has

(34:46):
it been? What has it been since Vietnam? After the draft?
What has it been? It's basically a volunteer army. So
you either go in because you live in bumfuck wherever
in America and you need a job, or you need
a career. Or it's guys that actually go in and
make a career out of it. It's not like they
thank you for your service kind of thing. No, you
should be thanking me that I paid you all these years.

(35:08):
And you get a retirement, then you become a defense contract,
and then you're on the border list and the border
at and you're a triple dipper. If you live in Virginia,
you may get three pensions.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Victor Man, Colonel Mike, you really said a mouthful. There's
a lot to digest there. I want to say. Yesterday
I did a show Memorial Day noting that the people
that sacrifice their lives and their families, because if you

(35:37):
have a dead mother or dead father in the line
of service, that leaves orphaned children, and that creates heartache.
For generations, they get a day. Meanwhile, if you're a lesbian, gay, bisexual,
training pedo or queer or whatever, you get a month.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
You get a month.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
And then you see Donald Trump saying, yes, this is
May Jewish National Heritage Month or whatever.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, what was that all about, Well.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
The contributions that the Jews have done for the United States.
So I started going through that, I was like, yeah,
thanks for the bioweapon disguises, vaccine, thanks for the liberty,
and thanks for all the things that the Jews. Thanks
for feminism, thanks for the LGBTQ movement, thanks for the

(36:30):
Clarity Plan, thanks for broken homes and marriages, thanks for
all the like. The whole Memorial Day episode was dedicated
to all the things that the Jews have done for
the United States, which is essentially destroyed it because the
thing is, if you look up in their own writings,
they see the USA or the jew Essay as I

(36:53):
call it, as he don't, and they're trying to fulfill
a prophecy because these people are no I'm sorry if
I get you censored, but it's a death cult and
they're trying to bring back the anti Christ. And then
what I call the Satanic Christians, these Zionist Christians who
believe that God will bless them if they bless Israel.

(37:17):
They're trying to bring back the Devil. I'm like, what,
I thought you were trying to bring back Jesus Christ. Yeah,
but in order to bring back Jesus, we got to
bring back the devil first. So it's kind of like
the Sabbatine and frank Is cult, where like, through sin
you will be a safe Yeah, so they try to
do the god awful things, including bestiality and incense than

(37:39):
freaking gang rape in order to be saved. I'm like, Okay,
this is the logic I gotta deal with. But if
I say anything of this documented history that I happen
to be near because the Sabbate and Franks started in Turkey,
which I'm a hopskipp and to jump away from and
surrounded by Turks, I mean, I'm not allowed to talk

(38:01):
about this. So it's really interesting you were talking about
the censorship my show. I don't know how people find
my show, but when they do, it's like, you can't
unsee the things that I'm telling you because what I'm
telling you is all fact based. You can look the
stuff up. It's history. It's history. Yeah, but the raised.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know, you didn't the one thing you didn't list
is they were at the head of the killing of
sixty two million infants in this country. Their money, their influence,
their political operatives all the time.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well that was adventure. That was a joint venture, Mike.
They were at the head of it. But you know,
the Christians, the Catholics and the Protestants jumped in with
two feet because they had feminism. And again they want eugenics.
Remember eugenics was big back then. Hillary Clinton's she got
the award for what was her name, Margaret's Anker. She
got the Margaret's Anger Award. They're a head of eugenics.

(38:59):
Take well, take them, and the black people keep voting
for them. This is the best part, you know. The
black people like, hey, if it ain't a Democrat and
it ain't black, I ain't voting for nothing. Okay, that's it.
You know, we're black and we're coming back. And now
they have videos about the Great African Continent, how they
created all this. Here's another one I'll throw at your victor. October.

(39:20):
October becomes an Indigenous month. Remember back in the day,
it was the Italian American Month or something like that.
It was celebrated. You know, thirty three million Americans of
Italian descent were thrown off on October because we need
indigenous because Columbus was a bad guy kind of thing.
And then we have this month is Asian American Month,

(39:40):
and we include there's now a new letter HPI or
something Hawaii Pacific Islanders. So all month long, we're going
to get indoctrinated on all the great things the Asians did,
and they did, I mean, the Chinese built the railroads,
you had great patriot people, you know that fort in
World War Two against Japan that were Japanese. There was Japanese,
you know, put in intermin camps. But so we're Germans

(40:01):
and so we're Italians. But they don't tell you that part,
you know what I mean. But that's that's another story.
So this month we're going to get indoctrinated on the
great Asian American And then you're right, he came out
with this thing about the Jewish Month, and I'm like,
wait a minute, you want anti Semitism laws, you want
great Jewish Month? Six million is they don't talk about
the sixty three million American Holocaust. Right, so you know,

(40:25):
we know the story. We could say here everybody knows it.
It's Adelson's money, one hundred million dollars whatever she gave him.
I said, let's do a GoFundMe. We collect one hundred million,
give it the money, put on a plane a center
there Israel, and that's it. Get her out of here,
because this is the problem. Our problem is lobbyists, lobbyists
and special interests. And imagine that the only one that

(40:46):
doesn't have to what does it called Mike farm agent
Act Phara or something like that. Yes, yeah, you know,
in fact, does it have to register? Victor? Sorry, we
get it. We get an exemption. Everybody else you got
to register. Now, don't get me wrong. Everybody lobbies America.
You know, you know Victor. If you think about the

(41:07):
old time, where's Victor? I got to get him on
a scream, say hello, Victor, I'm here. Okay, good, because
sometimes Mike folks at gyms the scream. But let me
just say this to you. Go back just about seventy
years maybe more, go back to prohibition. It was always
the mob, the gangsters, the mob, the Italians, the Jews, whatever,
you know, we had the mobsters, and then the governments

(41:28):
became mobsters. Now they got lotteries, they sell legal marijuana.
They're in the drug business illegally or whatever. You know,
you had wars that Afghanistan. Oh, we were just making
that democracy rock and roll with poppies, right, and then
just drop eighty one billion dollars worth of equipment there
by era. Yeah, of course, and now they find out
gither was rare earth minerals? We left too early. You know,
you look at the country. Everybody lobbies this country and

(41:52):
how this mafia works, the American mafia. If you want
to get things done, you got to get a lobbyist. Now,
let's say you're Japan, Okay, I don't know, if you're
famil with us. You got to have an economic lobbyist.
You got to have a political lobbyist. You got to
have a military lobbyist. So you have three lobbyists, right,
and Japan plays let's say between eight to twelve million,
maybe more year just a lobbyist. It's a shakedown. It's

(42:13):
the old shakedown, like the mob. You know, Hey, you
want to do something with us, you got to have
a lobbyist. Every damn country has to hire a lobbyist,
and who are a lobbyist? Lawyers and former congressmen and
former staffers. Just look at how many lobbyists we got
Mike Arlington and DC two thousand and three thousand lobby shops.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
There must be at least that many. I would be surprising.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Nothing gets done, Nothing gets done in Washington, Victor without lobbyists.
Look at the bill that just came out, the big
beautiful bill, eleven thousand pages. When do you start reading
next year or this year? Come on?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know, well, I got kicked off of Jim Fetcher's
show because I simplified everything by following the money all
the way to the top. I've realized it's the Jews.
People get upset at that because they're like, well, it's
not all the Jews. And I'm like, okay, I'm not

(43:09):
saying it's all anything because I'm an artist and I
don't paint with the Brount brush. I understand that you
have to use a fine brush to get at the details.
But where are all these good Jews? And why aren't
these good Jews coming forward? And you know saying, hey, listen,
these bad Jews need to stop. And then I wonder, Okay,
so who are these good Jews. Well, the good Jews

(43:31):
are the ones who say that even the best of
non Jews should all be killed and show no mercy
to the non Jews, and that Jews may use lies
to circumvent the non Jews, because those are the Jews
who understand the tall mood. So those are your good Jews.
And then when people are like, oh, well, you know

(43:54):
some Jews are not practicing their atheist Jews that's like
being an atheist Christian. Don't give me that. I'm not
an idiot. And plus it's interesting how you can be
a Jew of convenience because the Jews don't allow usury
on one another. So if you want to take out
a loan, a business loan, a housing loan, a car load, whatever,
you just check the Jew box and you don't have

(44:15):
to pay interest on it. And if you make any
profit on your property or business, you don't have to
pay taxes. There's like all sorts of special deductions and stuff.
The game is rigged, basically, like you're saying with the lobbyists,
if you're a packed, you don't need to register, so
you don't need to have to pay all these extra
things and you can just basically control the United slaves

(44:36):
of Israel. But if you're a Japan or you're another country,
then you got to start paying Jewish lawyers or Jewish
lobbyists or Jewish list so they control the whole thing.
It's like going to the casino. If you think you're
going to go to the casino and you're gonna beat
the roulette wheel or beat the house, you're an idiot.
I mean, I'm sorry, but it's like, I don't sit

(45:01):
there when I go on shows, Like if you have
me on your show, don't expect me to sit there
and do that, you know, the top dance for your
audience and be like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know whatever. Okay, Damn,
Bongino's right, and Cash was great, and Pam Bondi's doing
a wonderful job, and yeah, trust Trump, he's gonna make it. No,
I'm gonna give you the hard, honest truth. And if
you can't handle the truth, then don't you.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Did you actually get to see Bongino and Bondi and
Cash Pattel They were interviewed by Fox. By the way,
that's another thing the manpower industry. You know, Trump, instead
of going out and looking for real qualified people that
were real Maga or real conservatives. He went to Fox,
which he called fake news. Remember it was fake news

(45:42):
years ago. And then he went to Fox and he
recruited everybody out of Fox to come on his administration.
But now you take a look these people. What were
they were asked? I think it was on Fox News
and it was just set up. Okay, So what do
you think, Pam, what do you think is the biggest
problem facing America today? You know, as you sit here
as the Attorney General, Israel, Israel has a lot of problems.

(46:05):
It's what's going on with Israel is everybody said Israel
was the big issue. Now America has problems. They all
worried about what's going on in Israel, but nobody wants
to use the G word, which is genocide. Imagine that
six million, no genocide, no holocaust, six million. How many

(46:25):
people have died in the last couple of years. And
we know people that used to be on our show, right, Mike,
Military Intel whatever. Nah, you gotta understand, some gotta get
rid of him. They got They're still stuck on the
Amalekite story. They're still stuck on the Amalekite story. Okay,
Now if Trump comes in and says, just wipe it out,
what the hell? We need a couple of Trump towers there,

(46:47):
and we could get Miami Beach there on the Mediterranean
once we get this cleared up. And I'm sure the
Arabs always agree with us, you know, the Gulf Arabs.
You know, they'll just sign on to that and we'll
all invest the money clean it up. And he's thinking
about sending the people that have been there for how
many years, thousands of years, they should go live in
Egypt and Jordan in Tunisia. Who were you to direct

(47:09):
other people? This is not what our country was founded on.
We were not supposed to tell other people how to
run their life. You know, it's just how do you
face your children? They go to church, people go to
church in their pastor goes well, you know, like you said, God,
bless God, bless Israel. God says bless us. That's an
old Testament thing. You got to read the whole context.

(47:31):
You got to go through the whole book of Genesis
that was back then. After Jesus, we got a new story.
But they don't want they stop at that point, Victor,
you understand they don't want to know the New Testament.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, I understand it. You understand it. But the United
Slaves of America, under the Jewish run indoctrination system called
the Education System, are not understanding the history. And that's
by design because the United States is under a by Israel.
It's so called Greatest Ally. And I can tell you this.

(48:04):
I guess I'll be breaking this on your show because
I've been reporting it on my channel, which you could
find at Victor Hugo collection dot com. Scroll to the
bottom of the page and you'll see my links on
Rumble and bit Shoot. I'm also on Odyssey and Bridyon
and something called GOIAMTV. The Jews are escaping Israel in
record numbers. Oh yes, nobody's reporting on this. And what's

(48:28):
happening is in a small town in the Republic of
Georgia that's nestled in between the Caucus Mountains, Turkey and
the former Soviet Union. There's a small airport. The flights
used to come in twice a day from Tel Aviv.
Now quietly because this is a silent invasion, just like

(48:52):
what was happening with Alejandro Majorcas and Merrick Garland opening
the borders, allowing the United States to be invaded. The
same thing is happening in one of the last remaining
Orthodox Christian countries on Earth. Jews are coming in seven
flights a day now. The planes are packed filled with Jews,

(49:13):
and the Jews are bragging about coming in with suitcases
full of cash thanks to the United Slaves of Israel
who have been sending billions and billions and billions and
billions and billions and billions of dollars to be laundered
in the Ukraine. And then from the Ukraine it goes
to Israel and Tel Aviv. And the thing is I've

(49:37):
also heard and I've been reporting on this as well,
the Ukrainians who come back, they're like Victor. The Jews
are showing up there by the plane load with cash
in their suitcases. Because what people don't understand is that
it's easy to bribe a customs agent to look the
other way. If you have a suitcase full of millions
of dollars, if you give the customs agent a couple

(49:58):
one hundred thousand bucks, you know it happens that way.
And it doesn't matter if you own the printing machine
that goes but and prints out all this. What the
Russians called candy wrapper because that's what the dollar's worth
here in Russia, is to wrap your candy with it.
They know that the dollar is crashing. The Americans will

(50:19):
find out soon, but the rest of the world knows.
So anyway, the Jews are showing up. They're buying up
the rubble at pennies on the dollar in the Ukraine
to build the new Jerusalem as.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
They get it.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yes, then they're building a huge wall because the Jews
are good at that. They build walls up. They don't
want walls up in the United States. Yeah, they black
Rock shows up and tells the families, hey, listen, I
know you buried your dead, but we need you to

(50:51):
get them out of there and cremate them, which is
against the Christian religion. But it doesn't matter. Black Rock's
doing it. And you know, black Rock's okay. Even though
pretty much everybody on the top of the board of
directors is a Jew, and Larry Fink is a Jew. Again,
as long as it's the Jews doing it, there's no
problem because there God's chosen people, and you got to
respect Israel.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You mean it wasn't you mean it wasn't the Gambino
crime family. Oh my gosh, that's unbelievable. I could never
believe that they're also invading Cypress. They're buying up everything
in Cypress. You got restaurants at hotels and motels now.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yep, and nobody's talking about And remember they're buying this
property up with laundered money. That's the whole thing. So
you see how brilliant this plan is. And they keep
their hands clean. And that's why when I when I
was talking to that guy from Beirut, He's like, yeah,

(51:50):
they're giving me two and a half million dollars. What's
happening is? And I was wondering what was going on
with that because I'm like, wow, this is a small country.
Why are they building all these high rises? This happened
in twenty twenty when I showed up. So when I
say this is and doctor Schuer you know this like
these things are planned way in advance. I was like,

(52:10):
who are they expecting to move in here?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
And we didn't even get to Juliani yet. I mean,
we didn't even get to what's the name, Jolanni Jolani.
How do you like that story? Vic huh isis alt
Caeda he's got all the all the merit badges of
the CIA and and the I six and the Massade.
He's got all the merit badges. And then it's like, eh,
it's okay, make them the leader in the country.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, then all planned. The massage
is not kidding when they say they write the script.
They control the actors and everything, and until people wake
up in mass which is going to happen. I think
it's going to happen when the famine start and the
Haitians start eating people instead of eating dogs. In the
United States, people are going to go, Holy cow, this

(52:57):
is serious. We might want to do something. Now. There's
some bleeding hearts who were just going to like lay
down and allow themselves to be eaten and slaughtered and
stuff like that. Those are gonna be the ones that
you've all know Harari calls the useless eaters. I do
believe in the patriots in the militia in the United States,

(53:17):
but one of the things that concerned me was the
Huai Ping Wang. When I escaped China with him, he
said that his plan was to head to the United
States because that was I was going to be the
guy going on television from the Czech Republic to Austria
to Germany to France, to England to Holland and then
back to the next dates. I was gonna be all
over Fox News and everything. Remember these people all worked together.

(53:41):
So I was gonna be the guy. You know, it's
gonna be your friendly neighborhood. Take the vacs. It's safe
and effective and by the way, by your personal protective
equipment from me. And I was gonna be like Fauci.
You know, They're gonna be candles madeo for me and stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah, how about Burkes. Burks went in, she went on
the board of a an air purifying company right here
to she was with Trump.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah, it's like amazing how in the United States all
your heroes are criminals. So getting back to what's going
on here, man, these Jews aren't just buying up a
single apartment. They're building high rises here, by the way,
totally modern. They make this developing nation is starting to
make the United States look like a developing nation. That's

(54:24):
what I'm trying to explain to people. It's like your
taxpayer dollars are going to make everywhere else around the
world rich and in like you know, developed areas. Meanwhile,
you guys have homeless people, Like in San Francisco, you
gotta go on an app to find where you won't
step and shit because there's shit everywhere. I mean, it's

(54:45):
just so anyway, they're buying up entire floors. That's why
the guy from Beirut was like, Wow, this is great.
It's Jews coming over. He's not just buying one apartment,
he wants the entire floor. Imagine you're a real estate
agent and somebody shows up with a briefcase full of
cash and says, yeah, I'd like to buy the entire

(55:07):
fifteenth floor please. You're like, woo, I just you know,
made some nice commission here. So that's what's happening. So
they're buying up this orthodox Christian country. And then in the.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Number, you failed to say one thing. They do separate
the silverware when it comes to the dairy on Saburath Saturday.
Come on, you got to keep your hands clean. Make
sure make sure you don't mix up the silverware for
the beef and the dare I'm saying okay, No.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I wanted to mention something else that you had brought
up earlier about the military, and one of the things
and doctor sure, I want your take on this. When
I was at the Premier Leadership Laboratory Annapolis, Maryland at
the Naval Academy, what I witnessed was toxic leadership and

(55:58):
I was taught as my mantra, which I still I
can't get it out of my head anymore. I will
not lie, cheater, steel, or tolerate anyone who does. And
it's made it difficult in my relationships because I can't lie,
especially like when I'm with a girlfriend and she asked me,
you know, how do I look in this dress? It's like, oh,

(56:20):
my own, I should probably lie, but I can't. That
are happening. Was when I was told to lie about
the sexual assault that I witnessed on this female midshipment officer.
I told the truth and that opened a can of
worms because they were like, listen, the media is breathing

(56:40):
down our neck here and you're the only person who's
witnessed to this. Everybody else who was there they said
that it didn't happen that way, but you're the only
one who's backing up this girl's story. Is there any
way we can get you to remember it in a
better way? And I was like, no, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I was told that's the white lie, white line. So
then the venial sin and Catholicism.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I'll never forget. I was in a meeting with all
these like old guys in suits from DC and with
Vice Admiral Virgil Hill, the highest ranking he was the
the top guy at the Naval Academy, and they're all
there saying, hey, listen, you know we can we can
take care of you. We can make sure that when

(57:29):
you graduate from here, you'll be CEO of a fortune
five hundred company.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Absolutely absolutely, if.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You just remember it the right way, that you can
be groomed to be a congressman, senator, who knows, maybe
even the first Hispanic American president of the United States.
How would you like that?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Hey? And if it was later on in life, you
could be the Secretary of Defense right now, think about that.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
So my father was in that meeting and they were
trying to get my father to convince me. So my
father takes me out, because you know, after they laid
down the whole world in front of me like Satan did.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
To Jesus on that Yes, yes, yes, my.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Father takes me outside and he's like, hey, listen, that
sounds great. They you know, you make the family proud.
You'll be the first Hispanic American president of the United States.
They just said that they would, you know, make you congressman,
senator and then that mind you, this was in nineteen
eighty nine, so that's how these people plan stuff in advance.
That's why there're selections not elections, right. And I told you,

(58:32):
I said, listen, dad, there's no locks on these doors.
In the middle of the night, these people have been
coming into my room. They're called mag part mag light
parties where they shove a mag light in your face
a mac truck so you can't see anything. All you
see is like this bright light. They hold you down
and then one guy had I felt the cold steel

(58:53):
on my temple and the other one on my throat,
and they were like, listen, if you say anything will
kill you. They said, if if you go out on
an aircraft carrier, we'll push you into the jet engine
of a fighter plane and you'll be swept overboard, or
we'll just toss you overboard and you know you'll be
fed to the fish. Either way, your parents will get
a knock on the door and receive a folded flag

(59:14):
in a wooden box, and they'll be told that you
died honorably in the service to your country. So you know,
just keep your mouth shut and go along to get along.
And I didn't do that, and I'm still here. So
my message to whistleblowers is you got to tell the
truth people.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
The problem is this. I've spent the rest of my
life warning people that at the highest levels, what they
do is they're grooming psychopaths, pedophiles, people who are compromised
and blackmailed to become the highest ranking exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Look at our government, the last few will the last
few administrations. Hey, Vic, we're really running at my gosh,
we had a great show. Gosh we met. I think
we have to do this again. Oh Mike, Yeah, it'd
be great to have you again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I'd love to. I want to save the go ahead
and wake up. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Hello, Yeah, we're here. No, I just I schedule thirty.
But we're having a great time and having a good conversation,
and we should do it again. It's just Mike's got
another engagement that he's got to get on. That's that's
the reason I got to show it off pretty much.
But anyway, I want to thank you for coming on.
It was a great conversation, you know, and there's a
lot out there, and there's a lot more we could
talk about, naturally, because what we do on the two

(01:00:35):
mics is pretty much say what we have to say.
I'll tell you what. We're only on networks. We're only
on platforms that allow us to do free speech. It's
got to be First Amendment free speech. If you're editing us,
we don't want to be on your platform. We're on
another platform called America out Loud dot News. You could
check us out. We're on the National Security Hour. We

(01:00:56):
don't We're not you know, we don't conform. We don't
go with the herd. You know what I'm saying. We
say it like it is. You will welcome you. We'll
put you out one of those shows on a Monday night.
We do eight o'clock Monday night show where uh and
one thing good about America Outloud Dot News too, right, Mike,
one hundred percent free speech. They never call up and say, hey, guys,
got to change the title. Can we clip this? If

(01:01:18):
anybody says that to us, we're gone. We're done because listen,
we're the only alternative media guys like us, right, so
you got to get the word out there. How did
people wake up to this year? Just alone? This year
the USS Liberty. We're going to go on that next
time we put you on, but just the USS Liberty.
Yesterday I went I want to close with this, Mike,

(01:01:39):
it's very important. You give me a minute. Yesterday. Where
I usually go on Memorial Day of Veterans Day, I
go to Antietam Battlefield in Maryland, Okay, I go to Sharpsburg, Maryland.
And that's the that's the real battle. That was it,
you know, American Civil War, Bango bango, So many people
died in a short period time. And they had this

(01:02:00):
from a university come and give a speech about the
Civil War in the battle. And it was at the
cemetery Antiina National Cemetery. And at the end of the
speech and there's all these people under their white tents,
all the beautiful flags on the gravestones. And at the
end of the speech she talks about how Lyndon Johnson
did something great about Lyndon Johnson, you know, saying something

(01:02:21):
about some holiday, and I'm like, son of a bitch.
You know, Lyndon Johnson was the guy that allowed the
USS Liberty to be attacked and said stand down. And
people are just learning about this. It's not just JFK,
It's not just Marilyn Monro, It's not just RFK and
Sir Hansir Hand and the Palace Indian story. I mean,

(01:02:42):
Lyndon Johnson was one of the biggest scumbags that ever
was in this country, that ever served as a president.
We've had scumbags, you know, for years, right, And she's
talking about, you know, the great Lyndon Johnson. But again,
you're not going to get that story anywhere else. And
now you know, there's hot people like Candies and other
people that have big platforms that have gotten the word out.

(01:03:04):
We had Phil Turnion just recently. We did two parts
with Jack Maxi on the USS Liberty. And that's why
they say the only democracy in the Middle East is bullshit.
It's not the greatest stale, it's the greatest enemy. It's
not I say, it's not is Putin attacking us? You're
you're right there, Victor. When does Putin get on TV
every day and say I got attacked America tomorrow? When

(01:03:28):
Lavroff is the most sophisticated, UH foreign policy guy, what
do you call it? The foreign minister for years. The
guy's been there for years. He's the most well spoken guy.
We got all jerk offs. We got jerkos. Look at Rubio.
Oh yeah, we're not going to go further than here.

(01:03:48):
James Baker signed the paper or James Baker signed the
paper with NATO bullshit. Our word is crap. We speak
out of two sides of our mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Even when I lived in the Chinese people love the
United States. The Russians love the United States. Even the
people from the Middle East. I meet people from Afghanistan,
from Iran, from Iraq. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I just was in the Middle East a few months ago.
They love America. They hate the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, the main export of the United States has become
lawyers and lies, and the world is waking up to it.
The people who are still asleep at the wheel are
the United slaves of Israel, and unless they wake up soon,
they're doomed. I don't mean to be black pilling people,
but the world has had enough. I'm seeing it from
the outside, from Central America to South America. I've lived

(01:04:36):
in all these places, and I'm telling you the world
knows that the evil is emanating out of Israel, Washington,
d C, the Vatican, and the city of London. And
until something is done about that, nothing is going to
get any better.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Thank you so much, Victor, Hugo, Mike, those are exactly
correct words picture so so thank you very much for
being here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Will.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
There's much more to talk about, and I hope you
will come back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I will, guys. And again, uh, doctor, sure you had
an influence in mine, even though you don't remember, for.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Better or worse, for better or worse, I guess you
turned me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
On to the truth man, and that was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You know, he was canceled before he was cool. We
should do a country song, Mike, one day, we get
somebody to write it. You remember that lady said I
was country before before it was cool. Who is that?
She was a big time singer, Barbara Mandrell. That was
her name, Barbara Mandrell. I was country before it was cool. Well,
that's Mike, he was canceled. Mere Victor. God bless you.

(01:05:45):
Stay safe. We'll talk to you soon, and thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Take care everybody cheers

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Thanks take care of Victor.
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