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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the
Unbreakable Mind and Body
podcast.
I am your host, tiana Gonzalez,a multi-passionate, creative
storyteller and entrepreneurwith a fierce love for movement.
This is our space for powerfulstories and actionable
strategies to help you buildmental resilience and elevate
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your self-care practice.
Together, we will unlock thetools that you need to create an
unbreakable mind and body.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome back to the
show.
I am your host, tiana, and onthis episode, I'm going to
encourage you to share your art.
This episode is a little bitdifferent than most of the
episodes you will find on thisshow, because we're just going
to talk and I want to relay themessage that it's vital for you
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to find things hobbies,interests, leagues, platforms,
different rooms to put yourselfin that allow you to participate
not just sit on the sidelinesand watch, but be an active
participant in life.
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One of the easiest ways tostart doing that is to reflect
back and think about the thingsthat you loved to do when you
were a child.
What were those things?
Maybe it was pencil sketchingor making Lego figures, it could
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be dancing, singing, chess, youname it and I have found so
much value in my own personallife journey and experiences, in
coming full circle back intomore of my creative and playful
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side.
It has brought me so much joy,it has made my life lighter and
it has made me a better humanbeing to interact with, to work
with, to train with, to engagein conversation with, because
I'm filling my cup and I'm doingthings that bring me joy, that
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are for the simple enjoyment ofdoing them.
Now, a lot of times when we talkto people maybe someone we
don't know very, very well, ormaybe somebody very close to us,
but when we talk to them and wesay you know how do, how would
you define yourself?
A lot of times, people startwith either their work or their
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role in their immediate familystructure, and there's nothing
wrong with that.
However, let's go deeper Now.
If you know me on a personalnote, you know that I ask the
tough questions.
Some in my past have told me Ican be confrontational or
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intimidating, and that'sactually not true.
What I am is a truth seeker andbecause I have experienced a
lot in my short time on planetEarth, I skipped the fluff.
It's all from a good place, itall stems from the heart, and my
questions come from a place ofcuriosity.
But I love to know what peopledo that they don't get paid for.
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Or maybe they do it and they doget paid for it, but what do
they love about it?
So I love fitness and I do workin the fitness industry, and in
addition to that, my list ofhobbies and interests is
extensive.
Let's run through it, shall we?
My first love, my baby, thelove of my life is dancing and a
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very close second to that ismusic.
Now, as a kid I played the Bflat clarinet, the alto
saxophone and then the tenorsaxophone.
I also love to sing.
So, yes, I was a bit of amusical theater kid for a period
of time when I had theopportunity to participate, and
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I love to perform.
In middle school and then inhigh school I was able to study
dance at a professional dancestudio and perform in company.
Those were things that justreally lit up my life as a young
teen and young adult.
Now, later on in life, most ofthe dancing I would do would be
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at New York City nightclubs andat festivals.
There were a few auditions hereand there.
I did audition for the New YorkCity dancers.
I don't remember the year,maybe 2000 or 2001.
I got cut and I auditioned forseveral videos or to be an extra
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.
You know, in New York City thoseevents pop up at the last
minute.
They were typically duringMonday through Friday, nine to
five.
Anywhere in there it would justbe like, oh, we're doing an
open call today at three o'clock.
Be at this address.
There is a paper called theVillage Voice and I used to
peruse the pages and theneventually in the late nineties,
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early two thousands it becameavailable online and you could
search the wanted ads online.
That were updated periodically.
And I don't remember thecadence and it was incredibly
tough because I was working anine to five in Northern
Westchester County but my heartwas in New York City, either
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bartending or dancing on a boxor auditioning for a music video
extra role, something like thatand after being cut for so many
opportunities that I really hadmy eyes, you know, set on and
my heart was yearning for thesethings, just to get the slight
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chance to perform, to dance infront of an audience, to be on a
stage, that is what I reallyprayed for, that is what I
wanted to do with my life, andit is a very difficult career to
try to make into somethingfruitful.
It is very inconsistent, thecompensation was not very good
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and it would be feast or famine.
And so after some time Idecided I'm done with these
auditions.
I actually did some modelingphotos.
I had a very close friend whowas the head male model for
their campaign.
I'm not gonna say his name orthe modeling agency or the
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company he was with, but it wasreally interesting to see a very
handsome Westchester guy onevery bus stop in Times Square,
advertisements in the malls andall over New York City and in
magazines.
Of course I don't remember howmuch runway he did, but he was a
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friend from the gym and Iremember running into him and I
asked him to share my photoswith his agent and he was like
yeah, sure, obviously you knowI'd do anything for you.
Then you know you're a friend.
So he took a floppy discshowing my age.
He took a floppy disc with afew photos that I had
professionally done, took it tohis agent, saw him at the gym
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later on he gave me the discback and he said you know, my
agent said you have anabsolutely gorgeous face, but
you're a little too muscular andyou don't have the height that
they're looking for.
So unfortunately it's not goingto work out.
And I said, okay, no problem.
And after that I just decidedyou know what I'm just going to
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hide.
I'm going to save those mostprecious pieces of myself for me
.
Now I would venture off intosome dance classes in the city
here and there.
And for those of you listeningwho are not from New York, when
I say the city.
I'm referring to Manhattan and,yes, even people who live in
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one of the other boroughs of NewYork City, which would be the
Bronx, brooklyn, queens orStaten, even if you live in one
of those four boroughs, ifyou're traveling in and out of
Manhattan, you call it the city,just so we're clear.
All right.
So I decided I'm not going todo this anymore.
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I'm going to keep my dancing tomyself, except when I'm in
clubs with my friends.
I'm not going to performanymore and I must not be very
good, because I couldn't turn mypassion, my craft, my love into
a paid career.
Now, when I was in high school,I did teach dance and I did it
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as a hobby.
I did it on the side, it wasjust for a little extra cash and
I was teaching adults.
When I was 15 years old and mysenior year I was working at a.
Well, it was the summer.
After my senior year, beforefreshman year of college, I
worked at a summer camp and Itaught children, boys and girls,
ages three all the way up to 13, creative movement and dance
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Not an easy feat.
So I know my way around thedance studio and I know my way
around structuring classes,creating a proper warmup,
putting a playlist together,putting together a combination
that's fun and entertaining,that's easy to break down, easy
for me to teach, easy for me tolearn, or at least not
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necessarily easy but appropriatefor the level in which everyone
in the room was.
But at the time meaning the timethat I was in college and then
when I graduated from college itwas the late 90s, early 2000s
it was, and is still, verycompetitive to get a teaching
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job as a dance instructor andmost dance instructors are
bouncing around from school toschool to school and do
something else, for example,waitressing, tending bar, making
drinks, working in hospitality.
They may perform, you know it's.
It is different now in 2025than it was 25 years ago, but
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it's still rough and it waschallenging back then and I'm
sure even now life has posedmore challenges for people in
that line of work and I didn'twant that struggle line of work
and I didn't want that struggleand fun fact.
Being aware of that type ofstruggle was part of what kept
me away from getting intofitness sooner, because, even if
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I was making a not so greatsalary, working in commercial
real estate and propertymanagement and using my
engineering degree, it was stillsomething stable.
I knew I was getting a paycheckat the end of each week,
whereas when you're a freelanceartist and or teacher or you're
doing one-on-one private lessonsor training sessions, it's not
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salaried and there's typicallynot great benefits.
That changed.
Also when you know biggerfitness facilities started to
really pop off, but back in thelate nineties and early two
thousands, it was a different,different ball game.
So we fast forward and nowwe're working in fitness.
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I say we, like you've beenthere with me.
I'm working in fitness.
I'm able to experience some ofthat teaching vibe again because
I was doing small grouptraining sessions with anywhere
from three to 10 people in alittle bootcamp class.
I also taught at some boutiquestudios and I had to curate
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playlists.
So that was a lot of fun and Iwas so grateful for the
experiences I had when I wasmuch younger because I could tap
into it and I realized that Ireally loved putting things
together and the creativeprocess of not only creating a
fun and enjoyable yetchallenging workout, but the
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music and the vibe that I wantedto create in the room and
really having autonomy to dothat, which brought me, in a
roundabout and very long,twisted way into coming back to
myself and finding thosecreative outlets that light me
up.
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Last year, in 2024, I decidedalmost about a year ago today.
I decided you know what I wantto learn how to paint.
I bought acrylic paints, Ibought an easel, I bought a
bunch of canvases, a bunch ofbrushes and then some other
tools, and I have not taken anylessons.
I might have watched one or twoYouTube videos just to get the
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hang of a technique, but I'mexploring painting all on my own
.
In addition to that, I startedlearning how to draw.
I bought a tiny little notebookand some pencils of different
graphite hardness and an eraser,and I don't draw as much as I
paint, and I don't paint as muchas I dance, and I don't dance
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as much as I work or podcast.
But it's all there and the coolthing is, at any moment, I can
just decide to create somethingnew.
What's even cooler is thatthere are some of my pieces of
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artwork that are out in theworld, so I've shared some of my
artwork on social media, ofcourse, and I have one painting
that was commissioned and is nowframed and hanging in someone's
room and they love it and theysaid that the framer was very
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complimentary and said wow, thispainting is really cool.
And that's a huge complimentfor me because, like I said, I
don't have much experience and Ididn't take any lessons.
I just painted from the heart.
I just trusted my gut.
Which leads me to the wholepoint of this episode.
Creativity is like a muscle whenyou tap into it, you make it
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stronger.
It's very similar to sculptingyour body.
You have to lift weights, youhave to do it on a consistent
basis, and it could feel likeday after day after day after
day, you don't see any changes,but they're happening beneath
the surface and when you tapinto your creative interests,
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you learn.
By doing, you figure out whatyou like and don't like by
trying things, by testing things.
It's similar to food you don'tknow if you don't like something
if you don't try it.
So I want to encourage you totap into your creative skills
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and interests.
If you are someone who hasalways wanted to try something
and hasn't done it yet, I don'tknow what the fuck you're
waiting for, because we're notgetting any younger, honey, okay
.
So maybe it's painting, maybeit's drawing, maybe it's
learning new games.
I'm learning Spanish too.
I forgot to mention that and youknow that was going really well
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.
I was doing about 30 minutes toan hour of comprehensible input
.
Every day it's dwindled off alittle bit.
September has been a veryinsane month, both in my
personal life and in myprofessional life, and I mean
insane in the best ways possible, so I don't want to sound
ungrateful and I mean insane inthe best ways possible, so I
don't want to sound ungrateful.
There's just been a lot ofchange and it's all been fucking
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amazing.
And maybe, just maybe, I'llshare that with you in a future
episode, but for right now, youknow, when something is so
special that you don't want totell anyone because you don't
want anybody to ruin it, that'skind of what's going on in my
life and let's just say I'mreally happy, really, really,
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really happy.
So maybe it's dance, maybe it'splaying an instrument, maybe
it's learning how to sing, maybeit's a new board game or
activity, maybe it's a team inwhich you may want to find a
league, an adult league, in yourarea.
I have a couple of things Ihave on my list that I'm
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interested in, that I want toexplore.
One of them is learning how toswing a golf club correctly.
I used to hit golf balls wayback in the day at the driving
range and it was a lot of fun,but I was also terrible at it,
so I would love to pick up thatskill.
I also do not know how to playchess.
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I'm embarrassed to say that,because my father was an
exceptional chess player when Iwas a little girl, and once he
went to jail he became an evenbetter chess player.
He's very hard to beat, sothose things are kind of like on
my someday list.
I don't really have a yearningor a strong desire, but the
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thing I do have a strong desireto do is to get back into the
dancing.
Now I'm going to tell you thething about dancing that's
really great and healthy is thatit's going to help you clear
stagnant energy in your body.
So if you're someone who'shealing from some trauma, or
maybe you're going to therapybecause you recently got
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divorced, movement is going tobe the answer for you.
It allows you to get out ofyour head and get down into your
body, and when you get downinto your body, where are you
closer to?
You are closer to the ground,so you're getting more grounded,
and that is always a fabulousthing to do.
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It will help you get clear onthe things that you really want
for yourself and on the thingsthat you don't.
And let me say this one lastfinal note before I wrap it up
when you know that you are donewith something in your life and
you want to just shut the doorand move on, do not waste a
single second of your lifecontemplating, deliberating or
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second guessing yourself.
Trust your gut, because it willnever steer you wrong.
So if you have a creativeinterest that you are actively
participating in or you're aboutto start, please let me know.
If you check the show notes,you can link with me on social
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media.
My handle is there.
I'd love to connect with youand then we could talk in the
DMs.
I want to hear all about thingsthat light you up.
Maybe it's photography, maybeit is modeling, maybe it's
putting together curatingoutfits for people or helping
people sort out their closet.
I love that and I wish that Ihad the skill and the talent and
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the desire to do it.
It's just not really my jam.
I love that and I wish that Ihad the skill and the talent and
the desire to do it.
It's just not really my jam.
I wear basic colors, basicclothing, and I keep it very
simple, primarily athleisure.
And then, occasionally, I weara pair of jeans and then, when
I'm going out on a date, I'llwear a fancy dress and heels and
that's about it.
As always, I appreciate yourtime and attention and listening
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to me.
Yap, once again in our cozylittle coffee shop conversation.
I will see you on the next one.