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March 18, 2024 20 mins

Samantha recalls a terrifying encounter she had with her friends in Mauston, Wisconsin in September of 1994. What seemed to be a normal day in a small town would soon turn into a desperate attempt to escape a stranger’s grasp.


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He was drawing us away from civilization.
He got more and more and more insistent.
That's when he grabbed my younger friend.
It happened so quickly that guy just disappeared.
From HV Studio, this is unnerved.

(01:29):
Welcome back to the Unnerved Podcast.
It's where normal people share their abnormal stories, and if
you enjoy true stories of the strange and terrifying, then
you're in the right place. I'm your host, Chris Fricke.
Today's episode is a little different than usual.

(01:52):
The story you're about to hear is from an upcoming podcast
called The Basement Tapes. Last year, I connected with a
creator named Nick Usher, who was in the process of producing
a similar podcast. He shared some recordings with
me and I really enjoyed listening to them.

(02:15):
Nick and the storyteller you're about to hear were both kind
enough to let me share a story with you today.
Give you a little taste of his upcoming podcast.
In today's story, Samantha recalls A terrifying encounter
she had with her friends in Mauston, WI in September of

(02:41):
1994. What seemed to be a perfect day
in a small town would soon turn into a desperate attempt to
escape a stranger's grasp. This.
It's her story. So I grew up in a very small

(03:02):
town. The population was about 3000.
Everyone knew everyone. Everyone was, you know, very
close knit, a small high school.My graduating class was about
100 people. My parents worked in like a
factory and around town. My my mom owned a gas station on

(03:25):
the outside of town. It was very quintessential
growing up. The same person that you went to
kindergarten with, you graduatednext to them.
So if your name started with an M, you graduated right next to
your best friend because their name started with an N So me and

(03:45):
my best friend were 14. Her parents were out of town.
She was staying with me and I lived kind of on the outside of
town, right at the very edge of where residential houses kind of
stopped. And past that was just a very
rural area. There was a river.
So we walked about two miles to get to the midsection of town.

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And then we met up with a friendof ours who was 13.
So she was a little bit younger than us.
And that's what we did. When we, you know, in a small
town like that, we just, you walked around.
There was nothing to do in our town.
There weren't any bowling alleys.
There wasn't like a movie theater.
There was nothing really to do except you ride your bike or you

(04:30):
walk around. So we were walking to
McDonald's, which was very far away from the residential part
of town. It was out near the Interstate
where, you know, lots of transients get off and they, you
know, get gas up and they get fast food and then they get back
on the Interstate and they get out of town.

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But that's where we were going was to McDonald's.
Our plan was we were going to walk from my house to
McDonald's. We were going to get, you know,
lunch or whatever, and then we might have walked to a store and
buy some CDs. It was kind of a warm day.
We were walking and we got to this part of town where there's

(05:16):
a large river that goes through the town and there's a a bridge
that goes over the river and youhave to, you know, drive over
it, walk over it. And while we were walking over,
there was a man. It was not a man that we knew
who's older. He had a baseball cap on.

(05:40):
He was just wearing like an oversized T-shirt and and some
athletic shorts and white tennisshoes.
And he he seemed like he had a lot of things that he was
carrying. He didn't stand out in any other
way except for having all of thebags.

(06:02):
He had a lot of shopping bags, and for a small town we didn't
have a lot of shopping places. So it seemed out of sorts that
he had all of these things. And I remember he had like a
foot Locker bag, and we definitely didn't have a foot
Locker in the small town that I grew up in.
He was asking for directions andhe looked lost.

(06:24):
He looked out of place for one and he was standing on the side
of the bridge. And so that was initially, you
know, you just try to be helpful.
This guy didn't know where he needed to be and he was asking
for directions. But I do remember him asking

(06:45):
many, many questions. It was question after question
and and not congruent, like theydidn't go together.
It was just a ploy to keep us engaged, you know, He kept
asking questions and stepping away from us and stepping
further down the hill using a quieter voice.

(07:06):
So we had to, you know, get closer to him to hear him.
It was all very calculated in the moment.
We didn't know that it was calculated, but it was.
In hindsight, you can tell what he was doing.
He was drawing us away from the Main Street.
He was drawing us further and further away from civilization.

(07:30):
So eventually we had shifted from being on the sidewalk to
being, well, off the sidewalk. And we were out of view of the,
you know, passing traffic. Eventually he was like, oh, I'm
a photographer. I need to, I need to take your
picture. You guys are so beautiful.
Would you like to take your picture?
And that was a little off putting at that point.

(07:55):
We're kind of like, Oh no, I don't think this is OK.
I think we need to move away. He got more and more and more
insistent. I don't remember which one of
us, but we were like, no, we have to go.
Either me or my other friend tried to leave, and that's when
he's like, oh, if you're not comfortable with me taking the
picture, my girlfriend is back at this motel.

(08:18):
She'll take the pictures for you.
We were still teenagers. We were still not making good
decisions. We were like, oh, maybe, you
know, maybe if your girlfriend takes the pictures, it'll be OK.
And I just wanted to get back upto the road.
I just didn't want to be in thissecluded spot where no one could

(08:39):
see us. And it felt wrong.
It felt bad. You know, I was like, oh, we
have to go. We have to go.
And as me and my older friend were leaving, we were trying to
get up back to the road. That's when he grabbed my
younger friend. And I just remember hearing a

(09:03):
commotion, turning around and seeing her face.
I I can't get her face out of mymind.
He had grabbed her by her forearm.
He was yanking, yanking her, andshe was sliding down the hill,
but she just started sliding with him like he was pulling

(09:25):
her. And she went probably 5-10 feet.
Maybe she went with him. It happened so quickly and it
was such a bold move. The fact that he had physically
grabbed her and she was, she wasgone.
It was like instinct, you know, you just run and you grab her.

(09:45):
And we pulled her back. He didn't give up right away.
It was a little bit of a tug of war, but she, she's a a tough
kid, you know, she was fighting too.
And he had all those bags. And that's another thing I
remember is like the rustling ofthe bags.
He had them on his arms and he'strying to hold on to her, but it

(10:07):
was a lot of shaking. She got released quickly enough
that we were able to run up to the road.
And that's when my boyfriend wasdriving over the bridge and he
saw us running up the hill and he said you guys look terrified.

(10:29):
We had successfully gotten her away from the guy and the guy
just kind of scuttled off. He just like walked off.
He didn't run, he didn't anything.
He just kind of like took his bags and, you know, scuttled
away and we got in the car with my boyfriend.

(10:50):
That guy just disappeared. He just walked away.
He didn't come back up the same way that we went.
He walked another way. He just disappeared.
We were like, we were trying to get to McDonald's, blah, blah,
blah. So he took us, he dropped us off
at McDonald's. And when we walked into
McDonald's, we were still very heightened.

(11:10):
We were very like, Can you believe that just happened,
blah, blah, blah. And that's when we ran into our
teacher, our 8th grade teacher, and he's like, what happened?
We told him the story and he's like, OK, yeah, that's not
great, That's bad, that that's not supposed to happen.
You guys are very lucky that nothing bad happened to you.

(11:31):
Let's go report this. So like I said, it was a very
small town and the cops didn't have much crime to to solve.
They didn't have much to do. We were very familiar with all
of the police there. But when we walked in our our

(11:51):
teacher walked us in and he was like, hey, something happened to
these girls and they need to tell you what happened.
I do remember that we were all separated.
They separated the three of us and we each went into a room
with an interviewer. And when I had talked to my mom
about this, she was absolutely upset at the fact that when we

(12:12):
showed up at the cop shop, they separated us and they
interviewed us separately. And we were minors.
We were 14 and 13. We were looking through line
UPS. We were looking through like
perpetrator books with, you know, mug shots and stuff like
that. And they never once called our
parents. We were there for a long time.

(12:34):
I do remember it being very tired and sitting in the room
alone by myself for a long time and just like not believing that
this whole thing was happening and that we were at the police
station and that, you know, we were having to do this thing.
It was, it was surreal. I had researched to see if there

(12:55):
were any abductions in the area or any, you know, assaults and
nothing had happened prior to that and nothing had happened
after that for maybe 10-15 years.
So it was just a really random encounter with a really random
guy that just there was something up with him and he he

(13:15):
I I feel he was really desperateto be that bold.
So I have a a couple of kids of my own and I have been very
careful about how they go about the world, you know, and it has
kind of colored my the way that I allow them to be.

(13:40):
I want them to go out and experience the world.
But also, you know, you don't have to be polite to people and
adults should never ask childrenfor help.
They don't need children's help.If a guy is lost, he doesn't
have to ask teenagers to help him.
You know, there are other ways about the world that that should

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have been. Our first inclination that
something was wrong is that he was asking for help from us.
And we just have been taught to be so polite and help.
My kids are super sheltered. They are not Streetwise.
You know, we grew up in the 80s and 90s where parents were kind

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of like just go out and do whatever.
Now we're more kind of helicopter parents where you
don't go out and do whatever, You know what I mean?
They are very sheltered and I worry about them more than my
parents ever worried about me. Even though it felt bad, I still

(14:48):
didn't say no until it got really, really bad.
I still didn't be rude to the guy.
Even when it felt like this is wrong, I knew it was wrong.
It felt wrong and we were still entertaining his questions and
his, you know, we just got takenin very easily.

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Even though we knew better. I wish I knew what happened to
him. I wish I knew.
So I know that even though we went and we reported him, we did
the right thing. I wish I knew what happened to
him and made sure that he didn'tdo something bad to someone
else. Samantha and her friends were

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not taken that day, but not far away.
That wasn't the case for anotherinnocent girl.
That very same month, on September 5th, 1994, only one
hour and 30 minutes away from Samantha's encounter, a young
girl named Cora Jones was last seen riding her bike in Dayton,

(16:09):
WI. On Labor Day weekend in 1994,
the Jones family changed forever.
Cora was at her grandma's house.And she kept calling and
calling, and I just said, Cora, you know, I got to run to work
and then I'm going to come and get you and your brother.
Cora hopped on her bike and headed down the street.
Her mom says she and her cousinsused to always ride there.

(16:30):
When Cora hadn't returned after a few hours, her grandma called
her mom. Her parents say when they found
out Cora hadn't returned home from her bike ride yet, they
were worried her biggest fear could have come true and the
days and days of searching began.
Cora had fear being kidnapped and she always talked about it.
I I don't know. I just instantly knew something

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was wrong. I thought just go down to the
next bridge and wait for her because she's floating down the
river on an inner 2. Then that guy got a lot more
worrisome when I found out her bike wasn't right by the bridge.
Hundreds came out to help the Jones search for Kora.
Didn't sleep much after darkness.
Me and some of my friends would go out with spotlights.

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Drive. Slow down the country.
Roads. Six days later, the family got
their answer 75 miles north whentwo men were driving by and felt
like something wasn't right. Really deep ditch.
And since September, it's all covered with leaves and
unbelievable she was ever found.Authorities investigated for
three months before David Spanbauer was charged with

(17:35):
Cora's murder. Spanbauer, a serial rapist and
multiple killer. The Jones family went to court
with two other northeast Wisconsin families whose
daughters were killed by Spanbauer Spanberrow.
Was sentenced to three life terms in prison plus 400 years.
He died in prison in 2002. When I showed a photo of David

(18:03):
to Samantha, she said he did look similar to the man they
came across, but that was so long ago it's hard to know for
sure. If it was him.
Could David Spann Bauer be linked to Samantha's story?
Was this a kidnapping attempt byDavid?

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Or perhaps it was just a random stranger with evil intentions?

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Once again, I would like to thank Nick Usher for producing
this story and allowing me to use it.
When Nick releases The Basement Tapes podcast, I'll be sure to
link it in the show notes of this episode and also inform you
in the future of its release. As always, thanks for listening

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