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December 14, 2023 30 mins

Embracing failure as a force multiplier for growth and creativity is a core belief here at Unserious. So in this our final episode of the season, we journey back to the origins of our podcasting adventure, reflecting on some of our favorite moments and valuable insights we learned along the way. In this episode, Unserious producer Micah Vono joins J.B. and Molly to talk about storytelling and narrative building from his unique angle of human-centered design. We talk about our hopes and dreams for the future and offer a sneak peek at what we're thinking about for next season. Join us as we celebrate new beginnings and let us know what suggestions you have for Unserious!

"Being able to take that step back and say ‘this thing that I’m working on is not me’ is table stakes for producing great work.” - Micah Vono

0:12 Intro
1:24 Learning and Growing Through Podcasting
4:36 Great Moments From Season 1
12:41 Hire, Fire, Boss!
15:48 Storytelling for Humans
22:24 The Future of Unserious
27:43 Outro

You can check out more of Micah's work at and connect on LinkedIn.

Mentioned in this episode:
- Julie Zhou on loving the problem
- Storyteller Sarah Kuck of Present Medium Productions
- Dieter Rams' Ten Principles for Good Design 

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