April 17, 2025 • 35 mins
This podcast episode features a profound conversation with Mona Bavar, an esteemed entrepreneur and thought leader, who elucidates the intricate relationship between cultural storytelling and effective leadership. Bavar emphasizes that leadership transcends mere authority; it embodies the ability to inspire and connect individuals through shared experiences, particularly those that occur around the table. She shares her journey in founding Delish, a gifting company that intricately weaves food, art, and personal narratives to create memorable experiences, underscoring the significance of cultural appreciation in today's diverse landscape. Additionally, Bavar discusses her venture, Blue Apples AI, where she integrates human touch with artificial intelligence to empower entrepreneurs, advocating for the necessity of authenticity in brand storytelling. This dialogue serves as a poignant reminder that true leadership is rooted in empathy, self-awareness, and the capacity to foster genuine connections among individuals.
The Unstoppable Leadership Spotlight podcast presents a compelling discourse with Mona Bavar, a multifaceted entrepreneur whose ventures intertwine creativity and leadership. Mona elaborates on her enterprise, Delish, which curates distinctive gift experiences that encapsulate the essence of storytelling through food, art, and design. Reflecting on her heritage as an immigrant, she recounts how the dining table served as a sanctuary of connection and communication, fostering a sense of belonging and unity amidst cultural diversity. She emphasizes that leadership transcends traditional metrics of success, advocating for an empathetic approach that inspires others to realize their potential through shared experiences and creativity.
Mona further explores her consultancy, Blue Apples AI, where she empowers small businesses to leverage artificial intelligence while maintaining a human touch. She argues that the integration of AI must be rooted in a deep understanding of one's brand identity and audience, cautioning against generic outputs that lack authenticity. Mona's insights illuminate the importance of self-awareness in leadership, as she posits that true leadership involves guiding others through genuine connections and by embodying one’s unique narrative. This episode serves as a rich exploration of how personal stories and cultural heritage can inform effective leadership practices, encouraging listeners to embrace their narratives as a source of strength and inspiration.
Takeaways:
- Mona Bavar emphasizes the importance of storytelling in leadership, drawing parallels between sharing meals and leading teams toward common goals.
- The essence of leadership lies in guiding individuals to tap into their potential, much like how shared meals foster connection and understanding.
- In the realm of business, understanding one's own identity and heritage plays a crucial role in effective leadership and communication.
- Mona advocates for the integration of human touch in AI applications, ensuring that technology enhances rather than diminishes personal connection and authenticity in business.
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Well, hello everybody andwelcome to another episode of the
Unstoppable LeadershipSpotlight podcast. I'm Jaclyn Strominger,
your host and on this podcastwe hear from amazing leaders professionals
about their game changingexperiences and insights on leadership.
We are all about helping yougrow and be unstoppable in your leadership.
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And today I have an amazingguest. It is Mona Bavar. She is a
multi passionate entrepreneur,a thought leader who seamlessly blends
creativity, connection andinnovation across her ventures. She
is the founder of Delish. Do Ihave that right?
Yes.
And she curates exceptionalgift giving experiences that celebrate
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meaningful stories and fostersconnections, turning ordinary moments
into lasting memories. Iabsolutely love that. And she also
has Blue Apple's AI, her AIconsultancy. She empowers entrepreneurs
and small businesses toharness AI in a way that is authentic,
efficient and deeply human,which is really awesome. So welcome
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to the podcast. Mona, I. So Iam really kind of curious here. Like
first of all, who differentlike this is like left brain, right
brain in a lot of ways. Like,you know, so tell us a little bit
about your foray in yourbusiness with Delish, because I think
that sounds really amazing andI'm, I've got to ask you also about
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the AI.
First of all, thank you Jaclynfor having me on. I love, I love,
love the way you introduce me.If only we could all see ourselves
the way other people see us.So yes, I founded Delish, which is
a gifting company around food,art and design. And it's Delish curated
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in Milan, which is Milan,Italy. Because I, I've been living
between the States and Italyfor some time now, almost 20 years,
and I've always been in thefood and design industries. And so
Delish was born out of thisstorytelling that happens around
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the table. So as a childgrowing up as immigrants, our safe
haven and what kept usgrounded and rooted to our origin
was always the table, throughthe food and through the stories
that our parents would share.So somehow, subconsciously, I brought
that over into my businesswithout even knowing. I always loved
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food and I still love food.And Italy is a perfect place for
that. And I always found thatI connected with people in these
intimate settings. Andintimate doesn't necessarily mean
one to one. It's more aroundthis table setting where you're eating
and you're drinking and you'resharing stories and it's not about
your religion or yourbackground or the color of your skin.
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It's about the food and yourculture that you communicate through
the food. So you say, oh mygosh, you have pasta sauce that is
made with tomato sauce and,and, well, with tomatoes and ground
beef. And we add this spice toit and we say, oh, you know what?
In, in Iran, where I'moriginally from, we have this rice
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dish that has ground beef withpasta sauce and you add tomatoes
and potatoes to it. And so youunderstand that there's so much commonality.
And so what I wanted to do wastake this. And there's so many artisans
and producers that are prod.That are making products, whether
it's food products or designobjects that enhance the tasting
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experience. Because whether welike it or whether we know it or
not, the table, when we sit atthe table, it's a multi sensory experience.
Even if you're sitting downfor a simple dinner with the few
people in your family or byyourself, even you're tasting, you're
seeing visually, you'rehearing the sound of you chewing
or voices or music or whateveryou have.
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Hopefully they're chewing withtheir mouth closed.
Exactly. No, that's not that.No, no, no, I totally agree. So you're
experiencing that. And so Iwanted to put that in a gift box
and share it with people. AndI think there are so many tastes
that we haven't been exposedto that I myself discover with over
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the thousands of producersthat there are in Italy, I'm always
discovering someone new thathas created something, whether it's
a marmalade or it's a, a saltydish or whatever it may be. And we
couple it together to givethis story in a box is what I like
to call it. And you share thatwith yourself or with whoever you
love.
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You know, I love that thestory in the box. And there's a couple
things that just came to mymind as, as you were, as you're describing
this and you're talking aboutbeing grounded and what food does.
And I'm curious, like how, howwould you take that experience and
put it towards leadership?
The beautiful question,because whether we know it or not,
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when we host someone or whenwe share what we love, whether that's
food, whether that's an artpiece, whatever it may be, we are
leading. Because what isleadership anyway? Leadership is
guiding someone in a directionthat inspires them, that helps them
become a better version ofthemselves or helps them tap into
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the archetypes that maybewe're not aware of. So you can do.
Our mothers have done itthrough the, through the meals that
they've served us. When we goto restaurants, we experience it.
And the food aspect, when wego to an exhibition, I'm looking
at the beautiful art piecebehind you, and you said, my daughter
did it for me because I wasinspired by something that we saw
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together. So you led her inthis direction for her to. To announce
that archetype, that creativearchetype or that visionary archetype
that's within her. So I thinkas leaders, no matter what our medium
is or whatever it is we'resharing with someone, somehow we
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are leading them.
Right? That's so true. Andit's. And I. And I think about, you
know, it if we, as a leader,can also help people, like, bring
out the different creativity.And creativity does not necessarily
have to mean doing artwork.It's, you know, creative thinking
and the thought process. It'samazing what we can come out with.
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Right?
Absolutely. Absolutely. And Itotally agree with that. You know,
you would be surprised. Iwould say an accountant that sits
behind a computer and isconstantly working with numbers is
also creating something.Right. So we are all creators. Creation,
like you said, does notnecessarily mean an artwork or a
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poem that you've written or asculpture that you've put. You've
sculpted. It's so much more.Every moment we're creating something,
and creation stems frominspiration. So I think it's. And
we just choose a way to. Tocommunicate that.
And what you just said, Ithink, is really powerful creation
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and inspiration. It's. Ithink, as leaders, you know, that
is something that we can doas, you know, in a leadership role.
The more you can help inspiresomebody to be able to bring out
that creativity is actuallywhat, obviously, I think what a great
leader can do.
Absolutely, Absolutely.
So. So tell me. So I lovethis. Like, this, you know, like,
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to me, getting a box with,like, great stuff in it is really
fun.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yes. And that's the. Thatwhole. As a child, you couldn't wait
to open that box. And eventoday, I mean, we get an Amazon box
with that little swish, smileyswoosh in it, and we know that all
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inside we've ordered ourvitamins, but we're still excited
to open this box and say, oh,look at my vitamins have arrived.
So it's that. Thatanticipation of being pleasantly
surprised.
Right? Okay, I just have tointerrupt you because I have to tell
you this. What came to my headon that one, for me, the Amazon box
comes. I'm like, oh, what didwe spend the do get your box. I need
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that box.
Right?
Because I want stuff in it. Iwant the stuff that would make me
happy. I see that smile. I'mlike, dude, yeah.
So your Smush is kind ofupside down. I get it. I get.
Yeah, it is. But it is true.Like, you know, getting that in the
box. And I. And. And I thinkit's another thing, too, which I
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think is very interesting.What you're doing is you're bringing
out, you know, you'recombining cultures and food and bringing
people together. And that'sanother thing about leadership and
the way that people can dothat together. To bring different
personalities.
Yes, yes. And it's about thebridging of cultures. Like I said,
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when we first came to theUnited states, it was 1979, and unfortunately
for Iranians, it was adifficult time because of what was
happening in the politicalsystem. Right. So a lot. And I invite
everybody to go and understandthe history, because then you will
understand the people muchbetter. And what kept us, let's say,
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safe was knowing when we camehome that there was this table that
my mother had prepared, thesmells that were familiar from. From
Iran, and the stories that ourfather or mother would share. And
so as siblings, we learnedthat the table was a place to communicate.
It was a place to becompletely free to express your emotions,
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to understand. So if we wentoutside and someone called us names
because we were from Iran, itwasn't that it was out of malice,
necessarily, because we werechildren. It was out of ignorance.
Let's say that you didn't knowthe culture. You didn't know the
history, the traditions, thesmells, the tastes, Right? So this.
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When I went away touniversity, I went to Milan, Italy,
and I remember it was aninternational program to do my mba.
And I would always invitepeople to my home, and I would cook
Persian food, and I wouldserve Persian food. And I was always
so excited. And everyonestarted to bring something. So my
Serbian friend would bringsomething. The Greeks would bring
something, the Chinese. Sothen we started to. This table grew
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and grew and grew. And we allstarted to share our dishes, then
our stories, then our. Wherewe come from. And so all of a sudden,
there was no difference. Itwas just these cultures that were
all coming together. And werealized how similar we all are,
that when you remove allthose, all what the outside world,
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the propaganda feeds us,what's happening today in our world,
in the United States, yourealize that we're all the same,
essentially. And it's all thathas been generations and generations
that have handed down, whetherit's the tomato that's been handed
down and used in a differentway, or whether it's eating with
a knife and a fork that's beenserved in different, you know, so
it's so much similarities thatwe now should shift and start looking
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at the similarities ratherthan the differences.
Yeah, I love that. So justbringing it back to, you know, from
the leadership perspective,how do you think that would relate
to the boardroom or to a company?
The first and foremostimportant thing I think that leaders
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need to do is know themselves.So whether you're a CEO, you're an
entrepreneur, you're a thoughtleader, whatever you are, and we
all are so many differentarchetypes. We have to start by knowing
who we are. And that startswith going deep. And you and I are
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sitting here in front of eachother. I'm a 53 year old woman. I
have spent the majority of mylife trying to understand who I am.
And by that I don't mean I'vedone. I don't want to get woo woo
and talk about spiritualityand all that stuff. It's about saying,
you know what, what I wastaught as a child or how I was nurtured,
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that archetype of a caretakerno longer resonates with me. I have
it. But I want to now tap intothe archetype of the creator or the
archetype of the visionary. Sowhen you're in the boardroom and
you are in a position ofpower, you have to know that you
are what power means and whoyou are. So it's not about necessarily
saying, listen, I deliveredthese numbers. Yes, that's wonderful
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that you delivered thenumbers. You exceeded what the forecasts
were. But how do, how are you?Are you able to say, you know what?
Me, Mona Bavar, as the, thedriven entrepreneur, I succeeded
and I, I sold a company and Istarted a new one and I did all that.
But you know what? I did itwith empathy because I think that's
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the most important thing. Idid it with inner confidence. And
that inner confidence meanssecurity in who you are, in how you
communicate your story. For solong, Jaclyn, I was ashamed of my
heritage. I was, I avoidedtalking about it. Today I'm sitting
here with you and yourthousands or millions or however
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number of listeners you have,and I'm saying, you know what? I'm
an Iranian woman and I'm proudof it. But it took me years to get
to this position because I.Why, When I was a child, I was ridiculed
for it, I was made fun of forit, or I was bullied for it. So when
I step into that boardroom perse, I have to say, you know what?
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Let me be empathetic to thepeople that I'm sharing with, yes,
I'm sharing numbers, I'msharing results, but, you know, there
is a human side to it. Andit's that human side that inspires
that then says, you know what,next year let's do double the numbers.
But not out of force and outof the fact that we have to, because
we have to be better and meetthe shareholder demands and so on
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and so forth, but because weare passionate. And I that use that
word with a lot of hesitationbecause I think it's misused a lot.
But we're doing it out ofheart. We're doing it out of something
that we believe in. And I knowthat if you're like a Coca Cola and
you say, you know what, we gotshareholders, we got all these numbers
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that we need to meet, putaside that. Then tell me why are
so many companies choosing toinvest in retreats, in team building,
in wellness, in mental health?Because you understand that it's
necessary. It's necessary tobring that human aspect to a successful
leadership role. And howeverthat may show up for any of us, you
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know, I love.
What you just said, and Ithink it's so important. I think
that having the human side,you know, the human side, it's the
this, that side inspires us.And we need to know the stories and
we need to be connected withthe people that are in our fold.
You know, as a leader, whetherif you're Coca Cola or you are the
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small mom and pop store, thesolo, you know, owning one store,
you need to know the peoplethat are working with you. And I
say, not for like I, I usethat thing, it's with you, not for
you. Because the four partmakes it where you're up here, but
they need to be part of it.And so you have to think of everything.
I always think of everythingas a team. So if you know the people
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that are working with you andyou know a bit about their stories
and you have. And you bringthe human side into the companies
and you bring the human sideeven into the outside of the product,
it's going to make a deeperconnection and people are going to
want that product. And I'mjust going to think about Coca Cola.
When you think about theheartfelt, you know, at the holiday
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times, it's like, you know,there are certain, you know, Coca
Cola commercials that you canthink of that make you think of,
like, you know, that warm andfuzzies inside. It's not about the
Coke, really. It's like, yeah,the Coke is there, but it's about
that warm and fuzzy feelingthat you're getting and then you
associate it with that, butyou're, you're getting people's stories.
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So it makes it human.
Exactly. Exactly. Absolutely.That's, that's you. You. What did
they say? You nibbed it in the bud.
Yeah. So it, yeah. So I, Iwant to just bring this into your
agency because you've gotthis, this great, you know, box.
Right. So talk to me about theagency in AI because I, I'm, you
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know, as we were sharingbeforehand, AI can, you know, graphically
or you know, with images. Itdoesn't understand hands at all.
And we've got some weird,we've all seen those weird pictures
of hands doing some weirdthings. So, so tell me a little bit
about the agency and, and how,how does that also bring into, you
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know, those meaningful stories?
Thanks for asking that becauseit's very special to me. So I never
was a techie, never ever. Butsomehow AI for me seemed like first
it started as a necessitybecause of Delish the gifting company.
I. Our resources were low sowe were bootstrapping as much as
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we could and I couldn't affordit anymore. So I said, you know what,
let me start to create my owncontent. And as an E commerce, it's
king. Right? You have to rankin order for you to be organically
searchable and all that stuff.And so I started to create blogs.
I started, I always loved towrite, but I knew, noticed that it
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helped me at least get theoutline or at least do the research
for the keywords for SEOoptimization. So I started to do
a lot of this work on my ownand I realized that there is a way
for especially solopreneurs orsmall businesses, small to mid sized
businesses, to successfullyimplement AI. And what do I mean
by that? It's that humantouch. So BlueApples AI is about
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the human touch with the AIinnovation. So you have to know what
your brand story is, you haveto know your brand tone, you have
to know the style in order foryou to not sound generic. So that's
where here you have to do thework. Again we go back to as a leader,
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as a, as whoever you are anentrepreneur, CEO, you have to know
what your brand is all about,who is the target audience. This
is work that you have to do onyour own in order. And you hire agencies
for that. And that's why wesaid, okay, we have that competitive
advantage. We know how to workwith AI and we know how to maintain
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the human voice. Because Iknow When I'm writing my own content,
I know what I'm looking for.So when I started to train someone
to do this work for me, Isaid, listen, this is how it has
to sound because I already haddone the work before AI so if you
don't know it, you're going tosound like everybody else and you're
going to get lost in this, Imean, infinite pool of content that's
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being created right now. Andit's just going to keep growing because
everyone's like, okay, I justsit in front of chat GBT and I'll
put in this magical prompt,which doesn't exist by the way, because
you have to think about promptengineering as recipe for bakery,
not even for food because it'sa science. There's a reason they
put engineer after it. So ifyou don't know exactly how to play
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with this, you're going tosound like everyone else. You're
going to do the keywordresearch that's going to be all the
keywords that your competitorsare looking for. So forget about
ever ranking. And as a matterof fact, when I first started to
do this, I realized that wewere going down on the contrary.
Oh, so I realize, listen, youstill have to have some of it that's
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organic. You have to make sureyour research is SEO based. So you
have to have some kind ofknowledge of SEO. You're writing,
you have to know how to write,you have to know your brand voice
for the audience to connect.Otherwise, when you go in and you
read those AI words like the,the I delved into it and I'm thrilled
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to announce that you soundlike everybody else. So why do I
need to do that?
Right?
And that's where the humanaspect is so important. And I, we
sit down with clients and wetalk to them, we understand what
their brand voice is, weunderstand their why. In order for
us to be able to tell theirstory, the only thing that AI does
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is help us expedite a processbefore would have taken a little
bit longer or to give us theoutline so then we can go on and
write it. So here AI is stillnot there, unfortunately. And you
can watch Instagram andeveryone's like, you know what, let
me help you write with thismagical prompt. And you, all you
have to do is, and no, it'snot, it's, you.
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Know, it's so funny because I,because, because I love AI. Like,
I love using it because I willlike I, it's how I write my blog
or my LinkedIn newsletter. Butwhat I, what I love to do is as you're
just talking about, it's likeI write this whole massive paragraph.
Like all the stuff that's inmy brain that like is my voice and
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how. And then I just ask himlike, I'm always like, okay, now
I just need to like do alittle expanding and clean it up
a little bit, but keep myvoice like. And it's amazing what
comes out because it's like itgives me things that. It's exactly
what I wanted to say. But it,it's, but it's taking all that human
stuff that I put in and allthe emotion that I put into it and
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it spits it out. But it's not,it's not, it doesn't become generic
because I, you, you see peopledoing that and it's so, it's. I'm
so glad that you talk aboutbringing up the human element into
it because so many people dojust like give me a creative story
on.
Exactly. And it doesn't work.And we think we. Oh, here we go.
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And most people don't evenread it. I have to tell you, they
just copy and paste it intotheir blog and they think they're
like. We had a client that shechose not to work with us when we
were proposing for her for herE commerce product descriptions.
And I remember we gave her aquote and she said this is too expensive.
You're using AI anyway. And Ihad to explain, listen, don't think
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that just using AI you'regoing to be able to do it if you
don't know what you have to,how to write a product description
for it to convert for you touse the right keywords for all the
benefit. Everything that youneed for a product description, you're
not going to sell. And as amatter of fact she then went ahead
and did. You could see thateither she's hired someone else or
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she's doing it on her own.Because when I went on her website
for her beauty products I waslike, listen, I'm so sorry for you
that you chose to go thisroute and I respect it. You do you.
But you have to know thatthere AI doesn't mean everything
is clean. Because now todayeverybody's an entrepreneur and they
think it's so easy. It's not.You still have to do the work. Because
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the journey of an entrepreneuris also a journey of self discovery.
Right. And that's whereleadership comes in.
Yeah.
You go through this process ofwho am I, what am I doing, what is
my why? And all of us, if wereally, really. And that's what I
think one of our competitive,me personally advantages that why
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there's always a reason thathappened years ago in our lives,
like me at the table and howit became a safe haven. And I brought
that into my life, which funnyenough, also my siblings, they're
both entrepreneurs and theyalso. It's about creating this community
around this setting, whateverthat setting may be. So if we really
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go deep, and that's the brandstories that people want to read,
that's the brand stories thatif you go on a podcast, you want
people to share because itinspires. And so you're leading someone
into this world of where theythen will take the, the, the, the
torch and lead someone else.
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You know, what you're sharingis I, I love it. And with what I
think is really important. Andlisteners, as you're hearing this,
I want to just share aninsight really that I think is incredibly.
It's, it's a, it's a gamechanger. And if you're not doing
it, you need to take the timeright now, like to stop and do this.
And that is, you know, whatMona just said is taking the stories
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and the things that are, andthe values and the, that made us
who we are. So as a leader,what has made you you. You know,
for you, it's like that.Sending around the table, the stories
and bringing people togetherand bringing that to fruition. That's
part of your why, like, it's,it's deep rooted in you. If you haven't
spent the time to figure outwhat that is, take the time right
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now to figure out what isthat? Why. What are those things
that you want to bring ineither into your business, into the
people that are, that are inyour fold, because that's what's
going to make the differencein your company. Because you're going
to be deeper connected and thepeople, it's going to create a deeper
connection. And when you knowthat why and you create that community
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in that right setting, peopleare going to want to be in your fold,
they're going to want to joinyour company, but you got to get
the right people. And knowingthe right people is based on where
you came from and what comesto your heart.
That's beautiful. I love, lovethe way you put that. I mean, exactly.
That's the, the step that thenbecomes full circle. Yeah, just like
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the circles behind you.
Right, right. That's it.Right. It's, you know, and I think
that's, you know, when I talkto a lot of People. And that's why
I, I really love what you'redoing. Even with you, with both of
your companies, because likeI'm thinking about the delish is
like, oh, what a greatcorporate gift giving box, right?
Like how like bringing thatout, like, oh, we got, that's going
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to be really great. But also,you know, with your agency and bringing
in that human connection intoAI because sometimes we all don't.
We know, you know, so many ofus or so many people and so many,
as you shared, so manyentrepreneurs think, they think they
can do it. Yes, we can. But somany times we need to have somebody
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else bring our voice and bringwhat we want into it because then
we can step away from itbecause we're not so close to it.
And we can actually, then we,we can't sometimes see what we need
to see because we're too close.
Exactly, exactly. And that'swhy a lot of people, entrepreneurs
will have mentors or businesscoaches because you have to see the
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full picture. And so I thinkthat's. And with Blue Apples we created
these guides. And one of theguides that I'm so proud of because
as a, as growing up, I alwayslove psychology and I always love
the, this, this, this esotericworld of going deep and understanding
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yourself and the differentaspects of yourself. So when I was
exposed to psychology, the,the Jungian archetypes really played
a huge role in meunderstanding first myself and then
help people under, helpingpeople understand themselves, especially
as entrepreneurs. So then lastyear I did this beta on myself with
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AI. I tried to tap into allthe different archetypes using the
tarot deck, but the tarot,because Carl Jung used the tarot,
the major arcana, tounderstand the different archetypes
that we have within us andwhich one is the true archetype.
And so I did this with myselfand prompt engineering and it was
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so successful. I mean, I can'teven explain to you, Jaclyn, how
beautiful that journey was forme. From January To December of 2024,
every month, taking thismoment to play with AI, understand
how to prompt it in order tounderstand better myself and the
archetype of the month. And sothis, for 2025, I put together this
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guide around entrepreneurs andthe archetypes doing the exact same
thing with questions both withAI and without AI, where you are
able to tap into these andsee, you know what January, for example,
was the visionary. So whatdoes that visionary mean? How do
I show up as a visionary andhow do I want it to show up? Am I
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really the visionary and sothese different aspects, like this
month, February, is the highpriestess, which is intuition. So
the intuitive leader. So we.You go through these exercises with
prompts and. And you see justhow beautifully the pieces come together.
And these are the parts of AIthat when people say AI for good,
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we can actually use it in waysthat enhance us as human beings,
that help us explore aspectsof ourselves that then make us really,
really effective and inspiringleaders. That whether it's in the
boardroom or in a home, thatwe are. We are the caretaker archetype.
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We are showing up as fullyourselves and aware of each one of
them. Because a lot of timeswe shy away from many archetypes
that we possess. And so. So Iinvite people to check out that guide.
Is it. Is it free available,or is it.
It's online. And there's just.I mean, I personally don't think
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it's expensive. And purposelywe've done that so that I think it's
like $87, but it's 12 months.It's 100 and some pages every month
you go through this process.So I invite people to download it,
use it, and see just how. Howamazing it is.
Wow, that's fantastic. Allright, well, Mona, I could talk to
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you all day.
Me too, Jaclyn. So we alreadydecided we're going to exchange information.
Yeah, we're going to exchangeit. Right? So tell me, tell everybody
how they can get and getconnected with you. Where is the
best way to find you and getall your great information and even.
And to get this great guide.
If you're interested ingifting the gifting side or just
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checking out Delish, it's D LI S h dot us and there you can reach
out to us via email or send uson the contact page. We're always
there to respond. And you cancheck out our gift boxes. And we
also do corporate gifting, sobespoke gifting, whether it's weddings
or corporate. And then for theAI side, I invite you guys to visit
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Blueapples with an S. AI andset up a call. We have these discovery
calls that you can understandif it works for you, if AI Is for
you. And we have on ourresources page different guides that
you're more than welcome topurchase and use.
Perfect. Well, that isabsolutely fantastic. So I so appreciate
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you being a guest. This is theUnstoppable Leadership Spotlight
podcast. I'm your host, JaclynStrominger. If you have loved this
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you go to my website, leaptyour success.com and apply to be
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a guest. And thank you so muchfor listening. Again. Thank you Mona
for being a guest.
Thank you for having me.Jaclyn was wonderful.
My pleasure.
Well, hello everybody andwelcome to another episode of the
Unstoppable LeadershipSpotlight podcast. I'm Jaclyn Strominger,
your host and on this podcastwe hear from amazing leaders professionals
about their game changingexperiences and insights on leadership.
We are all about helping yougrow and be unstoppable in your leadership.
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And today I have an amazingguest. It is Mona Bavar. She is a
multi passionate entrepreneur,a thought leader who seamlessly blends
creativity, connection andinnovation across her ventures. She
is the founder of Delish. Do Ihave that right?
Yes.
And she curates exceptionalgift giving experiences that celebrate
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meaningful stories and fostersconnections, turning ordinary moments
into lasting memories. Iabsolutely love that. And she also
has Blue Apple's AI, her AIconsultancy. She empowers entrepreneurs
and small businesses toharness AI in a way that is authentic,
efficient and deeply human,which is really awesome. So welcome
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to the podcast. Mona, I. So Iam really kind of curious here. Like
first of all, who differentlike this is like left brain, right
brain in a lot of ways. Like,you know, so tell us a little bit
about your foray in yourbusiness with Delish, because I think
that sounds really amazing andI'm, I've got to ask you also about
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the AI.
First of all, thank you Jaclynfor having me on. I love, I love,
love the way you introduce me.If only we could all see ourselves
the way other people see us.So yes, I founded Delish, which is
a gifting company around food,art and design. And it's Delish curated
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in Milan, which is Milan,Italy. Because I, I've been living
between the States and Italyfor some time now, almost 20 years,
and I've always been in thefood and design industries. And so
Delish was born out of thisstorytelling that happens around
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the table. So as a childgrowing up as immigrants, our safe
haven and what kept usgrounded and rooted to our origin
was always the table, throughthe food and through the stories
that our parents would share.So somehow, subconsciously, I brought
that over into my businesswithout even knowing. I always loved
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food and I still love food.And Italy is a perfect place for
that. And I always found thatI connected with people in these
intimate settings. Andintimate doesn't necessarily mean
one to one. It's more aroundthis table setting where you're eating
and you're drinking and you'resharing stories and it's not about
your religion or yourbackground or the color of your skin.
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It's about the food and yourculture that you communicate through
the food. So you say, oh mygosh, you have pasta sauce that is
made with tomato sauce and,and, well, with tomatoes and ground
beef. And we add this spice toit and we say, oh, you know what?
In, in Iran, where I'moriginally from, we have this rice
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dish that has ground beef withpasta sauce and you add tomatoes
and potatoes to it. And so youunderstand that there's so much commonality.
And so what I wanted to do wastake this. And there's so many artisans
and producers that are prod.That are making products, whether
it's food products or designobjects that enhance the tasting
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experience. Because whether welike it or whether we know it or
not, the table, when we sit atthe table, it's a multi sensory experience.
Even if you're sitting downfor a simple dinner with the few
people in your family or byyourself, even you're tasting, you're
seeing visually, you'rehearing the sound of you chewing
or voices or music or whateveryou have.
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Hopefully they're chewing withtheir mouth closed.
Exactly. No, that's not that.No, no, no, I totally agree. So you're
experiencing that. And so Iwanted to put that in a gift box
and share it with people. AndI think there are so many tastes
that we haven't been exposedto that I myself discover with over
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the thousands of producersthat there are in Italy, I'm always
discovering someone new thathas created something, whether it's
a marmalade or it's a, a saltydish or whatever it may be. And we
couple it together to givethis story in a box is what I like
to call it. And you share thatwith yourself or with whoever you
love.
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You know, I love that thestory in the box. And there's a couple
things that just came to mymind as, as you were, as you're describing
this and you're talking aboutbeing grounded and what food does.
And I'm curious, like how, howwould you take that experience and
put it towards leadership?
The beautiful question,because whether we know it or not,
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when we host someone or whenwe share what we love, whether that's
food, whether that's an artpiece, whatever it may be, we are
leading. Because what isleadership anyway? Leadership is
guiding someone in a directionthat inspires them, that helps them
become a better version ofthemselves or helps them tap into
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the archetypes that maybewe're not aware of. So you can do.
Our mothers have done itthrough the, through the meals that
they've served us. When we goto restaurants, we experience it.
And the food aspect, when wego to an exhibition, I'm looking
at the beautiful art piecebehind you, and you said, my daughter
did it for me because I wasinspired by something that we saw
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together. So you led her inthis direction for her to. To announce
that archetype, that creativearchetype or that visionary archetype
that's within her. So I thinkas leaders, no matter what our medium
is or whatever it is we'resharing with someone, somehow we
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are leading them.
Right? That's so true. Andit's. And I. And I think about, you
know, it if we, as a leader,can also help people, like, bring
out the different creativity.And creativity does not necessarily
have to mean doing artwork.It's, you know, creative thinking
and the thought process. It'samazing what we can come out with.
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Right?
Absolutely. Absolutely. And Itotally agree with that. You know,
you would be surprised. Iwould say an accountant that sits
behind a computer and isconstantly working with numbers is
also creating something.Right. So we are all creators. Creation,
like you said, does notnecessarily mean an artwork or a
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poem that you've written or asculpture that you've put. You've
sculpted. It's so much more.Every moment we're creating something,
and creation stems frominspiration. So I think it's. And
we just choose a way to. Tocommunicate that.
And what you just said, Ithink, is really powerful creation
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and inspiration. It's. Ithink, as leaders, you know, that
is something that we can doas, you know, in a leadership role.
The more you can help inspiresomebody to be able to bring out
that creativity is actuallywhat, obviously, I think what a great
leader can do.
Absolutely, Absolutely.
So. So tell me. So I lovethis. Like, this, you know, like,
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to me, getting a box with,like, great stuff in it is really
fun.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yes. And that's the. Thatwhole. As a child, you couldn't wait
to open that box. And eventoday, I mean, we get an Amazon box
with that little swish, smileyswoosh in it, and we know that all
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inside we've ordered ourvitamins, but we're still excited
to open this box and say, oh,look at my vitamins have arrived.
So it's that. Thatanticipation of being pleasantly
surprised.
Right? Okay, I just have tointerrupt you because I have to tell
you this. What came to my headon that one, for me, the Amazon box
comes. I'm like, oh, what didwe spend the do get your box. I need
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that box.
Right?
Because I want stuff in it. Iwant the stuff that would make me
happy. I see that smile. I'mlike, dude, yeah.
So your Smush is kind ofupside down. I get it. I get.
Yeah, it is. But it is true.Like, you know, getting that in the
box. And I. And. And I thinkit's another thing, too, which I
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think is very interesting.What you're doing is you're bringing
out, you know, you'recombining cultures and food and bringing
people together. And that'sanother thing about leadership and
the way that people can dothat together. To bring different
personalities.
Yes, yes. And it's about thebridging of cultures. Like I said,
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when we first came to theUnited states, it was 1979, and unfortunately
for Iranians, it was adifficult time because of what was
happening in the politicalsystem. Right. So a lot. And I invite
everybody to go and understandthe history, because then you will
understand the people muchbetter. And what kept us, let's say,
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safe was knowing when we camehome that there was this table that
my mother had prepared, thesmells that were familiar from. From
Iran, and the stories that ourfather or mother would share. And
so as siblings, we learnedthat the table was a place to communicate.
It was a place to becompletely free to express your emotions,
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to understand. So if we wentoutside and someone called us names
because we were from Iran, itwasn't that it was out of malice,
necessarily, because we werechildren. It was out of ignorance.
Let's say that you didn't knowthe culture. You didn't know the
history, the traditions, thesmells, the tastes, Right? So this.
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When I went away touniversity, I went to Milan, Italy,
and I remember it was aninternational program to do my mba.
And I would always invitepeople to my home, and I would cook
Persian food, and I wouldserve Persian food. And I was always
so excited. And everyonestarted to bring something. So my
Serbian friend would bringsomething. The Greeks would bring
something, the Chinese. Sothen we started to. This table grew
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and grew and grew. And we allstarted to share our dishes, then
our stories, then our. Wherewe come from. And so all of a sudden,
there was no difference. Itwas just these cultures that were
all coming together. And werealized how similar we all are,
that when you remove allthose, all what the outside world,
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the propaganda feeds us,what's happening today in our world,
in the United States, yourealize that we're all the same,
essentially. And it's all thathas been generations and generations
that have handed down, whetherit's the tomato that's been handed
down and used in a differentway, or whether it's eating with
a knife and a fork that's beenserved in different, you know, so
it's so much similarities thatwe now should shift and start looking
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at the similarities ratherthan the differences.
Yeah, I love that. So justbringing it back to, you know, from
the leadership perspective,how do you think that would relate
to the boardroom or to a company?
The first and foremostimportant thing I think that leaders
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need to do is know themselves.So whether you're a CEO, you're an
entrepreneur, you're a thoughtleader, whatever you are, and we
all are so many differentarchetypes. We have to start by knowing
who we are. And that startswith going deep. And you and I are
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sitting here in front of eachother. I'm a 53 year old woman. I
have spent the majority of mylife trying to understand who I am.
And by that I don't mean I'vedone. I don't want to get woo woo
and talk about spiritualityand all that stuff. It's about saying,
you know what, what I wastaught as a child or how I was nurtured,
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that archetype of a caretakerno longer resonates with me. I have
it. But I want to now tap intothe archetype of the creator or the
archetype of the visionary. Sowhen you're in the boardroom and
you are in a position ofpower, you have to know that you
are what power means and whoyou are. So it's not about necessarily
saying, listen, I deliveredthese numbers. Yes, that's wonderful
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that you delivered thenumbers. You exceeded what the forecasts
were. But how do, how are you?Are you able to say, you know what?
Me, Mona Bavar, as the, thedriven entrepreneur, I succeeded
and I, I sold a company and Istarted a new one and I did all that.
But you know what? I did itwith empathy because I think that's
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the most important thing. Idid it with inner confidence. And
that inner confidence meanssecurity in who you are, in how you
communicate your story. For solong, Jaclyn, I was ashamed of my
heritage. I was, I avoidedtalking about it. Today I'm sitting
here with you and yourthousands or millions or however
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number of listeners you have,and I'm saying, you know what? I'm
an Iranian woman and I'm proudof it. But it took me years to get
to this position because I.Why, When I was a child, I was ridiculed
for it, I was made fun of forit, or I was bullied for it. So when
I step into that boardroom perse, I have to say, you know what?
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Let me be empathetic to thepeople that I'm sharing with, yes,
I'm sharing numbers, I'msharing results, but, you know, there
is a human side to it. Andit's that human side that inspires
that then says, you know what,next year let's do double the numbers.
But not out of force and outof the fact that we have to, because
we have to be better and meetthe shareholder demands and so on
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and so forth, but because weare passionate. And I that use that
word with a lot of hesitationbecause I think it's misused a lot.
But we're doing it out ofheart. We're doing it out of something
that we believe in. And I knowthat if you're like a Coca Cola and
you say, you know what, we gotshareholders, we got all these numbers
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that we need to meet, putaside that. Then tell me why are
so many companies choosing toinvest in retreats, in team building,
in wellness, in mental health?Because you understand that it's
necessary. It's necessary tobring that human aspect to a successful
leadership role. And howeverthat may show up for any of us, you
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know, I love.
What you just said, and Ithink it's so important. I think
that having the human side,you know, the human side, it's the
this, that side inspires us.And we need to know the stories and
we need to be connected withthe people that are in our fold.
You know, as a leader, whetherif you're Coca Cola or you are the
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small mom and pop store, thesolo, you know, owning one store,
you need to know the peoplethat are working with you. And I
say, not for like I, I usethat thing, it's with you, not for
you. Because the four partmakes it where you're up here, but
they need to be part of it.And so you have to think of everything.
I always think of everythingas a team. So if you know the people
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that are working with you andyou know a bit about their stories
and you have. And you bringthe human side into the companies
and you bring the human sideeven into the outside of the product,
it's going to make a deeperconnection and people are going to
want that product. And I'mjust going to think about Coca Cola.
When you think about theheartfelt, you know, at the holiday
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times, it's like, you know,there are certain, you know, Coca
Cola commercials that you canthink of that make you think of,
like, you know, that warm andfuzzies inside. It's not about the
Coke, really. It's like, yeah,the Coke is there, but it's about
that warm and fuzzy feelingthat you're getting and then you
associate it with that, butyou're, you're getting people's stories.
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So it makes it human.
Exactly. Exactly. Absolutely.That's, that's you. You. What did
they say? You nibbed it in the bud.
Yeah. So it, yeah. So I, Iwant to just bring this into your
agency because you've gotthis, this great, you know, box.
Right. So talk to me about theagency in AI because I, I'm, you
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know, as we were sharingbeforehand, AI can, you know, graphically
or you know, with images. Itdoesn't understand hands at all.
And we've got some weird,we've all seen those weird pictures
of hands doing some weirdthings. So, so tell me a little bit
about the agency and, and how,how does that also bring into, you
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know, those meaningful stories?
Thanks for asking that becauseit's very special to me. So I never
was a techie, never ever. Butsomehow AI for me seemed like first
it started as a necessitybecause of Delish the gifting company.
I. Our resources were low sowe were bootstrapping as much as
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we could and I couldn't affordit anymore. So I said, you know what,
let me start to create my owncontent. And as an E commerce, it's
king. Right? You have to rankin order for you to be organically
searchable and all that stuff.And so I started to create blogs.
I started, I always loved towrite, but I knew, noticed that it
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helped me at least get theoutline or at least do the research
for the keywords for SEOoptimization. So I started to do
a lot of this work on my ownand I realized that there is a way
for especially solopreneurs orsmall businesses, small to mid sized
businesses, to successfullyimplement AI. And what do I mean
by that? It's that humantouch. So BlueApples AI is about
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the human touch with the AIinnovation. So you have to know what
your brand story is, you haveto know your brand tone, you have
to know the style in order foryou to not sound generic. So that's
where here you have to do thework. Again we go back to as a leader,
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as a, as whoever you are anentrepreneur, CEO, you have to know
what your brand is all about,who is the target audience. This
is work that you have to do onyour own in order. And you hire agencies
for that. And that's why wesaid, okay, we have that competitive
advantage. We know how to workwith AI and we know how to maintain
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the human voice. Because Iknow When I'm writing my own content,
I know what I'm looking for.So when I started to train someone
to do this work for me, Isaid, listen, this is how it has
to sound because I already haddone the work before AI so if you
don't know it, you're going tosound like everybody else and you're
going to get lost in this, Imean, infinite pool of content that's
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being created right now. Andit's just going to keep growing because
everyone's like, okay, I justsit in front of chat GBT and I'll
put in this magical prompt,which doesn't exist by the way, because
you have to think about promptengineering as recipe for bakery,
not even for food because it'sa science. There's a reason they
put engineer after it. So ifyou don't know exactly how to play
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with this, you're going tosound like everyone else. You're
going to do the keywordresearch that's going to be all the
keywords that your competitorsare looking for. So forget about
ever ranking. And as a matterof fact, when I first started to
do this, I realized that wewere going down on the contrary.
Oh, so I realize, listen, youstill have to have some of it that's
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organic. You have to make sureyour research is SEO based. So you
have to have some kind ofknowledge of SEO. You're writing,
you have to know how to write,you have to know your brand voice
for the audience to connect.Otherwise, when you go in and you
read those AI words like the,the I delved into it and I'm thrilled
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to announce that you soundlike everybody else. So why do I
need to do that?
Right?
And that's where the humanaspect is so important. And I, we
sit down with clients and wetalk to them, we understand what
their brand voice is, weunderstand their why. In order for
us to be able to tell theirstory, the only thing that AI does
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is help us expedite a processbefore would have taken a little
bit longer or to give us theoutline so then we can go on and
write it. So here AI is stillnot there, unfortunately. And you
can watch Instagram andeveryone's like, you know what, let
me help you write with thismagical prompt. And you, all you
have to do is, and no, it'snot, it's, you.
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Know, it's so funny because I,because, because I love AI. Like,
I love using it because I willlike I, it's how I write my blog
or my LinkedIn newsletter. Butwhat I, what I love to do is as you're
just talking about, it's likeI write this whole massive paragraph.
Like all the stuff that's inmy brain that like is my voice and
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how. And then I just ask himlike, I'm always like, okay, now
I just need to like do alittle expanding and clean it up
a little bit, but keep myvoice like. And it's amazing what
comes out because it's like itgives me things that. It's exactly
what I wanted to say. But it,it's, but it's taking all that human
stuff that I put in and allthe emotion that I put into it and
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it spits it out. But it's not,it's not, it doesn't become generic
because I, you, you see peopledoing that and it's so, it's. I'm
so glad that you talk aboutbringing up the human element into
it because so many people dojust like give me a creative story
on.
Exactly. And it doesn't work.And we think we. Oh, here we go.
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And most people don't evenread it. I have to tell you, they
just copy and paste it intotheir blog and they think they're
like. We had a client that shechose not to work with us when we
were proposing for her for herE commerce product descriptions.
And I remember we gave her aquote and she said this is too expensive.
You're using AI anyway. And Ihad to explain, listen, don't think
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that just using AI you'regoing to be able to do it if you
don't know what you have to,how to write a product description
for it to convert for you touse the right keywords for all the
benefit. Everything that youneed for a product description, you're
not going to sell. And as amatter of fact she then went ahead
and did. You could see thateither she's hired someone else or
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she's doing it on her own.Because when I went on her website
for her beauty products I waslike, listen, I'm so sorry for you
that you chose to go thisroute and I respect it. You do you.
But you have to know thatthere AI doesn't mean everything
is clean. Because now todayeverybody's an entrepreneur and they
think it's so easy. It's not.You still have to do the work. Because
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the journey of an entrepreneuris also a journey of self discovery.
Right. And that's whereleadership comes in.
Yeah.
You go through this process ofwho am I, what am I doing, what is
my why? And all of us, if wereally, really. And that's what I
think one of our competitive,me personally advantages that why
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there's always a reason thathappened years ago in our lives,
like me at the table and howit became a safe haven. And I brought
that into my life, which funnyenough, also my siblings, they're
both entrepreneurs and theyalso. It's about creating this community
around this setting, whateverthat setting may be. So if we really
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go deep, and that's the brandstories that people want to read,
that's the brand stories thatif you go on a podcast, you want
people to share because itinspires. And so you're leading someone
into this world of where theythen will take the, the, the, the
torch and lead someone else.
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You know, what you're sharingis I, I love it. And with what I
think is really important. Andlisteners, as you're hearing this,
I want to just share aninsight really that I think is incredibly.
It's, it's a, it's a gamechanger. And if you're not doing
it, you need to take the timeright now, like to stop and do this.
And that is, you know, whatMona just said is taking the stories
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and the things that are, andthe values and the, that made us
who we are. So as a leader,what has made you you. You know,
for you, it's like that.Sending around the table, the stories
and bringing people togetherand bringing that to fruition. That's
part of your why, like, it's,it's deep rooted in you. If you haven't
spent the time to figure outwhat that is, take the time right
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now to figure out what isthat? Why. What are those things
that you want to bring ineither into your business, into the
people that are, that are inyour fold, because that's what's
going to make the differencein your company. Because you're going
to be deeper connected and thepeople, it's going to create a deeper
connection. And when you knowthat why and you create that community
(26:50):
in that right setting, peopleare going to want to be in your fold,
they're going to want to joinyour company, but you got to get
the right people. And knowingthe right people is based on where
you came from and what comesto your heart.
That's beautiful. I love, lovethe way you put that. I mean, exactly.
That's the, the step that thenbecomes full circle. Yeah, just like
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the circles behind you.
Right, right. That's it.Right. It's, you know, and I think
that's, you know, when I talkto a lot of People. And that's why
I, I really love what you'redoing. Even with you, with both of
your companies, because likeI'm thinking about the delish is
like, oh, what a greatcorporate gift giving box, right?
Like how like bringing thatout, like, oh, we got, that's going
(27:36):
to be really great. But also,you know, with your agency and bringing
in that human connection intoAI because sometimes we all don't.
We know, you know, so many ofus or so many people and so many,
as you shared, so manyentrepreneurs think, they think they
can do it. Yes, we can. But somany times we need to have somebody
(28:00):
else bring our voice and bringwhat we want into it because then
we can step away from itbecause we're not so close to it.
And we can actually, then we,we can't sometimes see what we need
to see because we're too close.
Exactly, exactly. And that'swhy a lot of people, entrepreneurs
will have mentors or businesscoaches because you have to see the
(28:22):
full picture. And so I thinkthat's. And with Blue Apples we created
these guides. And one of theguides that I'm so proud of because
as a, as growing up, I alwayslove psychology and I always love
the, this, this, this esotericworld of going deep and understanding
(28:42):
yourself and the differentaspects of yourself. So when I was
exposed to psychology, the,the Jungian archetypes really played
a huge role in meunderstanding first myself and then
help people under, helpingpeople understand themselves, especially
as entrepreneurs. So then lastyear I did this beta on myself with
(29:03):
AI. I tried to tap into allthe different archetypes using the
tarot deck, but the tarot,because Carl Jung used the tarot,
the major arcana, tounderstand the different archetypes
that we have within us andwhich one is the true archetype.
And so I did this with myselfand prompt engineering and it was
(29:28):
so successful. I mean, I can'teven explain to you, Jaclyn, how
beautiful that journey was forme. From January To December of 2024,
every month, taking thismoment to play with AI, understand
how to prompt it in order tounderstand better myself and the
archetype of the month. And sothis, for 2025, I put together this
(29:52):
guide around entrepreneurs andthe archetypes doing the exact same
thing with questions both withAI and without AI, where you are
able to tap into these andsee, you know what January, for example,
was the visionary. So whatdoes that visionary mean? How do
I show up as a visionary andhow do I want it to show up? Am I
(30:16):
really the visionary and sothese different aspects, like this
month, February, is the highpriestess, which is intuition. So
the intuitive leader. So we.You go through these exercises with
prompts and. And you see justhow beautifully the pieces come together.
And these are the parts of AIthat when people say AI for good,
(30:40):
we can actually use it in waysthat enhance us as human beings,
that help us explore aspectsof ourselves that then make us really,
really effective and inspiringleaders. That whether it's in the
boardroom or in a home, thatwe are. We are the caretaker archetype.
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We are showing up as fullyourselves and aware of each one of
them. Because a lot of timeswe shy away from many archetypes
that we possess. And so. So Iinvite people to check out that guide.
Is it. Is it free available,or is it.
It's online. And there's just.I mean, I personally don't think
(31:23):
it's expensive. And purposelywe've done that so that I think it's
like $87, but it's 12 months.It's 100 and some pages every month
you go through this process.So I invite people to download it,
use it, and see just how. Howamazing it is.
Wow, that's fantastic. Allright, well, Mona, I could talk to
(31:45):
you all day.
Me too, Jaclyn. So we alreadydecided we're going to exchange information.
Yeah, we're going to exchangeit. Right? So tell me, tell everybody
how they can get and getconnected with you. Where is the
best way to find you and getall your great information and even.
And to get this great guide.
If you're interested ingifting the gifting side or just
(32:07):
checking out Delish, it's D LI S h dot us and there you can reach
out to us via email or send uson the contact page. We're always
there to respond. And you cancheck out our gift boxes. And we
also do corporate gifting, sobespoke gifting, whether it's weddings
or corporate. And then for theAI side, I invite you guys to visit
(32:32):
Blueapples with an S. AI andset up a call. We have these discovery
calls that you can understandif it works for you, if AI Is for
you. And we have on ourresources page different guides that
you're more than welcome topurchase and use.
Perfect. Well, that isabsolutely fantastic. So I so appreciate
(32:55):
you being a guest. This is theUnstoppable Leadership Spotlight
podcast. I'm your host, JaclynStrominger. If you have loved this
episode, please share it withyour friends, families, colleagues,
and please make sure you dohit the subscribe button. And if
you would like to be a gueston the podcast, please make sure
you go to my website, leaptyour success.com and apply to be
(33:16):
a guest. And thank you so muchfor listening. Again. Thank you Mona
for being a guest.
Thank you for having me.Jaclyn was wonderful.
My pleasure.
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