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Have you ever felt like you're up against an invisible barrier, one that's stopping you from reaching your fullest potential?
Today, Kelly Roach joins us to tackle this very issue as she teaches us foundational principles for scaling a business and creating an enduring legacy.
As founder and CEO of Kelly Roach International, former NFL cheerleader, and Fortune 500 executive, Kelly is no stranger to breaking through barriers. In our candid conversation, we navigate the challenges of leadership, the importance of self-belief, and the power of supporting each other - especially women - to untether and shatter those glass ceilings.
I also get personal, reflecting on the immense impact my parents' encouragement had on my life and the journey towards authenticity in business – but also how money mindset challenges and financial constraints during our upbringing can become big tethers that keep us from excelling in our financial lives.
In the episode, Kelly teaches us how to align business practices with core values, and how this leads to an authenticity that not only shapes a brand but also resonates deeply with today's consumers, who are seeking genuine human connection. Kelly and I discuss embracing every facet of ourselves, spirituality included, as a means to profoundly connect with others and thrive in the modern marketplace.
We also address the less glamorous 'messy middle' of entrepreneurship. Starting is easy, but the true test of courage is persisting through adversity.
We hope this episode offers you both compassion and mental fortitude as you expand your capacity for leadership.
MEET KELLY ROACH
Kelly Roach is one of the only female founders in the online space to build her company from 0 to 8 figures with 0 debt, investors, or outside funding. Kelly is a former NFL cheerleader and Fortune 500 executive turned 8-figure+ entrepreneur empowering thousands around the globe to achieve financial and lifestyle freedom through entrepreneurship.
Kelly is an 11x international best-selling author, Top 20 podcast host, and philanthropist who has been featured in major media such as ABC, NBC, Fox, and Forbes - as well as the recipient of prestigious awards such as #287 on the Inc. 5000 list, The Stevie® Awards Woman of the Year, TITAN CEO of the Year, and Inc.’s Best in Business.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi and welcome to Untethered with Jen Liss, the
podcast that's here to help youbreak free, be you and unleash
your inner brilliance.
I'm your host, jen, and in thisepisode we're going to talk
about how to expand yourcapacity as a leader so you
don't become your own glassceiling.
You are so capable, let's divein.
Hey there, unicorn, it's Jen.
(00:34):
Welcome back to the podcast.
In today's episode we have avery special guest founder and
CEO of Kelly Roach International.
Guest founder and CEO of KellyRoach International.
Kelly Roach so Kelly has had themost phenomenal journey as an
entrepreneur.
She's so inspiring.
She's one of the only femalefounders in the online space to
build her company from zero toeight figures, and not only that
(00:58):
, with zero debt.
Investors are outside funding.
She has done it on her own.
Kelly is a former NFLcheerleader and a Fortune 500
executive turned eight-figureentrepreneur.
She empowers thousands ofpeople around the globe to
achieve financial and lifestylefreedom through entrepreneurship
.
She is an 11-timeinternationally bestselling
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author, top 20 podcast host, aphilanthropist, and she's been
featured in all the majorpublications you can imagine,
won many awards.
She's incredible and thrilledto have her come on the podcast
and talk specifically aboutexpanding our capacity as
leaders, about understanding howwe can truly believe in our
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capabilities, release ourselvesfrom the tethers that are
holding us back and truly stepinto the magic your unique magic
that you were meant to createin this world Without further
ado.
Welcoming onto the podcast,kelly Roach.
Hi, kelly, hey, it's sowonderful to have you on.
I myself am just thrilledbecause I know that you're a
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wonderful human and you're doingbeautiful things in the world,
and for you to come on and sharewith my listeners your
knowledge is such a huge,freaking gift.
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you, I'm so happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So we are women who are looking to untether and live
our most brilliant lives.
That's what we're here to do,and I see that you are doing
that, and not only are you doingthat, you're helping other
people to do it as well.
What got you to this point ofbeing this person who is able to
reach out and support otherwomen in this way?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
out and support other women in this way.
I just think that it's such agift if you can be a part of
someone else believing inthemselves.
Like I can't even say thatthere was like a thing that
happened that made me say I'mgoing to spend my life trying to
get people to believe inthemselves.
But I think that what could bemore rewarding than seeing in
someone something that maybethey don't even see in
themselves yet?
And then I think it's kind of adual edged sword, because I
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think that everything that we dois an opportunity to open a
door or to build a pathway or tobe the shoulders that someone
else can stand on, shouldersthat someone else can stand on.
And so I think that, as women,part of it is us just going for
it and then sharing that journey, and so that other women are
like you know what?
(03:33):
Maybe I can, maybe that can befor me too, but I also think
it's just embracingopportunities to instill belief
in other people and to help themto see that they're not alone
and that the struggles thatthey're facing are not unique to
them, and that there isdefinitely a level of depth of
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the journey, of success that youdon't see online which is what
I work really hard on my podcastto talk about and in my content
, because I think that's one ofthe biggest barriers actually to
success is people seeing oneset of information online and
then their experience of thejourney is so different that
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they constantly feel thatthey're doing it wrong or
they're out of place, or maybeit's not for them or whatever
the case.
And I think as leadersspecifically as women leaders we
have an opportunity to createcongruence between those things
and bridge them so that peoplekeep going.
You know, and that's what I'mtrying to do.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That feeling of doing it wrong I feel like I'm doing
it wrong is at the heart.
I feel like that's at the heartof so much of our struggle,
feeling like there's a path thatwe are intended to follow, that
is following this rule bookthat's been laid out for us,
like if I accomplish this, andthen this, and then this, and if
I make all of these peoplehappy, then I will be successful
(04:54):
.
And we find that that's nothappening.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and it's all inside anyway, right.
Like, I think one of the thingsthat's so important to remember
is like it's like more than onein a billion chance that any of
us are here and that means thatthere's something really unique
that is available and destinedfor us and it shouldn't look
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like anybody else.
It was never meant to.
And I think that's when we getourselves in trouble, when we
compare our journey, our success, our life, our this, our that
to other people because itdoesn't even matter.
It doesn't even matter becausewe're all here to accomplish a
specific life mission that waspredestined and to use our gifts
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in whatever way we're invitedto do that.
And I think comparison justkills so much joy.
And I think that's a lot ofwhat's happened.
Also, you know, with the rise ofthe internet, and I think the
internet has so many beautifulthings about it, I mean, listen,
for me, I came from Fortune 500.
I sat in cold, called and hadto go building to building to
sell all day.
So for me, with live streamingand social media, I'm like this
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is the greatest gift known toman.
Like I'm like I can't believewe had to sit in yoga pants and
you know, you know, message onsocial media and do these things
Like.
I think the internet's soamazing, but there's also you
have to.
You have to manage your ownmindset around a lot of things
too, right.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, that makes so much sense and it's really easy
to get caught up in it.
What it made me think of thattransition from what you
experienced in corporate andthen coming onto the internet is
I used to do hair years ago.
I did hair and standing on myfeet all day and then I went to
a corporate job and I wassitting behind a desk and I was
like this is the easiest thingin the world.
(06:40):
This is amazing.
I get to sit here all day.
But then eventually I actuallybecame.
I had so many back problemsfrom all of a sudden sitting all
day.
So it's like we start toeventually experience the
challenges of the new thing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, but see, that's exactly the point is, it's up
to us to figure out how toextract the good and not fall
victim to the bad, and that'sthat's growing as a person is
being able to take the good anduse it to your advantage, but
not become a victim of the bad,and that's like self-growth,
(07:16):
right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's.
That's so much of the work.
It's the mindset.
Like you said, did you come outof the womb feeling fully
capable?
I can do this.
You just came into this worldas this person who you are.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't know how much is nature and how much is
nurture.
Here's what I'll say.
My dad worked for a nonprofit.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
There was five kids in myfamily.
We basically lived at thepoverty line.
We had no money.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
There was five kids in myfamily.
We basically lived at thepoverty line.
Like we had no money.
Like my parents were arguingevery day about money and like
about just getting by.
Like the whole our wholedynamic of our life was like
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getting by, right, but the onething that my parents did
exceptionally well was they werein my ear all the time.
Like God chose you, god createdyou for good.
Like, have a high standard foryour life, trust that you're
special, trust that you'reblessed.
I love you.
I love you.
So I think part of that is they.
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I learned you know everything inyour life experience is
basically like you, you learnsomething that you want to
replicate or you find somethingthat you want to recreate in a
totally different way.
Right so?
My family's financial situation, the dynamic of my parents'
marriage, you know a lot ofthose things.
I was like, ok, we're going todo this all differently, right?
So that was like my lesson andmy warning there there.
(08:46):
But on the flip side, I thinkmy parents really made a
consistent effort on a dailybasis with all of us to be like
you know you're loved and you'respecial, and set a higher
standard for your life becauseyou're not like everyone else
and like you you can go dosomething great, and you know.
I think that's that was a reallyimportant part of you know how
I became, who I am, you know.
But also, I think God picks usfor different things, you know.
(09:06):
I think I think that's why I'mhere.
I think I think I'm here to tolift up other people.
I think I'm here to to serveother people, helping them to
figure, you know, their path andtheir journey.
So I don't know, I don't knowI'm reporting for duty.
I'm just trying to report forduty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm like I don't know , right, you're like I don't
freaking know, I'm justfollowing the breadcrumbs.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's great, I'm just.
I'm just following thebreadcrumbs, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But what you're saying is kicking back and
reinforcing something that yousaid earlier that you are unique
and you're on your uniquejourney and you're that message
that was instilled in you atsuch a young age.
I feel like that is untethered.
That's so freeing.
That is so freaking freeingwhen you realize that I'm not
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meant to do it anybody else'sway.
So how has that thought?
I'm not meant to do it anybodyelse's way?
How has that influenced thejourney that you have been on,
specifically in your career?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I mean I know I wouldn't be where I am, because
I think everything that I'veever done that have been like
the best decisions of my lifehave always been like completely
counter, and I think that's oneof the most important things
for each of us to grow into inour lives is to develop more
courage, to trust our owninstincts and to trust our own
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intuition and to not hedge ourdecisions by the approval or
permission of other people.
I think a lot of the mistakeswe make come from seeking
validation, permission,recommendation, whatever,
crowdsourcing our decisionsinstead of saying you know what,
(10:52):
let me be quiet and ourinstincts are really, really
good when we allow our instinctsto have a voice, you know.
But a lot of times we outsourcethat, and we're outsourcing it
to people that either don't haveour best interests in mind or
they do have our best interestsin mind but they just aren't the
best people to be makingrecommendations right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I'm curious for you when we talk about tethers,
has there been a tether in yourlife that has come up time and
time again, something that youyourself have like ah, there's
that thing again.
There's that thing that I'mpushing up against, whether it's
approval, validation orsomething else, feeling like you
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don't trust yourself or like isthere anything for you?
And we're all human beings andwe all have these things.
Is there anything that's hit?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean, I think for me it's taken me a really,
really it's taken me until like40 years old, right, To get to
the point where I started havingfinancial success, working for
a fortune 500 20 years ago,right, and then I became an
entrepreneur.
I was working my job still, Iwas doing entrepreneurship on
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the side and then I finally, afew years ago, became a
full-time entrepreneur.
And I think it took me until II relaunched, I changed my
program the InevitableMillionaire to Kairos, and that
was the first time that I reallymade a decision in my business
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and financial life not based onis this the best financial
decision to create security inthat area of my life, and I made
that decision 100%, just on,like pure God calling service,
like no other you know externalthing, and it took me that long,
(12:51):
you know, to, I would say, getuntethered from the financial
situation that I grew up in andI feel like I've always built my
businesses.
I have six companies.
They're all super highintegrity, high value.
The work that we do is so richand meaningful and powerful and
we change people's lives everyday and the goodness has always
(13:13):
been there.
But I don't think that I wasable to fully untether from that
financial upbringing until veryrecently, where I'm just like
you know what.
I trust myself and I trust Godand I trust that I can just do
what I'm called to do and Idon't need to micromanage.
(13:37):
Let's call it micromanage thefinance of it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I think that makes a ton of sense, especially I've
heard you share.
I think it was a previouspodcast interview I listened to
where you were speaking aboutyour story and one of the things
that you shared is that evenyou know saying the word God and
having that be part of who youare in your business and being
outward with it.
That's something that a lot ofus like.
We have things about ourselvesthat we kind of shield because
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we feel like others mightperceive it in some way, and so
we will hold that back.
But I think the world is readyfor us to be us.
I think we're living in a time.
It's like it's time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's time, it's absolutely time and you know, I
think that it's been so likejust rich and fulfilling and
joyful for me to finally feellike I can be whole in the way
that I'm building my brand andbuilding my business and not
holding back in that way,holding back in that way, but I
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feel like it's different foreveryone, right, like that just
so happened to be something forme, but like it could be totally
different, you know, for otherpeople listening to the show.
But the world is definitelyready and I think people are
buying so much more with intentand concern around the human
that they're buying from nowthan they are just the outcome.
There is definitely a season inonline entrepreneurship where I
think people were just sotransactional they just wanted
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to buy the product from theperson that they thought was the
biggest name or they were goingto get the biggest result or
whatever.
And I think people, as they'vespent more time buying in the
online space and they've hadmore experience, they want to
feel alignment and connectionwith the person that they're
buying for from more than everbefore, more than ever before,
(15:26):
and I think now is definitelythe time to just be more of what
you already are and to sharemore of what you already are,
and you don't have to share morethan you want to.
But if it's something that youdesire, like for me, I wanted to
share this.
I was scared, I was very fearful.
I held that back, not because Iwanted to, because I just
(15:50):
didn't.
I didn't, I didn't, I guess,have enough courage.
I guess I would say I didn'thave enough courage, but I think
that you share as much or aslittle as you want to, because
it's your life and your businessand I don't feel that any of us
are required to dump our liveson the internet, although a lot
of people feel that pressure,and a lot of people do that, and
they're on stories all day,every day, and their whole life
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is there.
I choose, I can't do that life.
I don't do that life.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And you built a successful business, not doing
that life, which I think is animportant message Very
successful business not doingthat, but yeah, so I think you
share what you want to share.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You share what's important to you, but I think if
you have a concern about theway that people will perceive
your brand or think about you, Ithink more than ever it will
attract the right people, andpeople are truly, truly seeking
that whole relationship with theperson that they're buying from
, more so than just the outcomeof a product or the outcome of
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an experience, if that makessense.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, you said the word whole twice in that
conversation, and the first timeI got tears in my eyes and the
second time I felt tingles in myfeet.
There's something aboutallowing ourselves to be the
whole freaking person that weare, and that doesn't mean to
your point, we don't have toshow all of it.
We don't have to stand naked infront of everyone.
You can show what you want towhen you're ready.
Thank you for letting us gothere and talk about that,
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because I think it's really,really important and your
willingness to share that justshows the courage that you have
and that you have come to apoint where you're able to talk
about that and where you'reready and you want to.
So I appreciate that very much.
So I have a question for you.
The first time I saw you inperson well, the only time I saw
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you in person last year I wasat a retreat and I was offering
breathwork and you came and youspoke and it was so freaking
good.
Kelly, I had this tiny book thatthey gave us and as you were
talking, I was writing one quoteper page.
Let me show you how many pages,how many pages.
I filled up half of this book,one quote per page and I pulled
it out this morning to come andlook at some of the things that
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you had shared.
And I was like, oh, and Ipulled it out this morning to
come and look at some of thethings that you had shared and I
was like, oh my gosh, I need tobe reading this every day.
But one of the things that yousaid I'm going to read two of
them.
You said have the courage to becommitted.
That had really landed so hardwith me.
And then, a couple of pageslater, I wrote there is a part
of you who is ready to stopholding back, and maybe this
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kind of comes to thatconversation we were just having
.
There is a piece of you at anymoment that is so ready for you
to stop holding back.
And I know this is totally outof context for you, but when I
say that to you, what comes tomind?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, yeah, I mean listen I say this and I think to
the quote that you just readthere.
You know, it doesn't take a lotof courage to get started.
It takes a lot of courage tocommit to keep going.
And I think that's a messagethat people really need to hear
right now, because it's reallyeasy to stop something when it's
not working, to shut somethingdown when it gets hard, to
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celebrate starting over,starting something new.
That's the easy part, anyonecan do that.
But what takes real fortitudeand grit and what is going to
build your character and buildyour strength as a person and
actually build the value of whatyou can bring to the world, is
the courage to continue.
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It's the commitment to keepgoing when it's hard, when
you're questioning yourself andwhen you are feeling overwhelmed
and when you do have all thosesurge of emotions and fear and
all of those things that come up.
And so I would just say forsomeone that's in that messy
middle that you know you gotstarted, you came this far.
Just remember you didn't comethis far.
You came this far.
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Just remember you didn't comethis far, just to come this far.
And I think one of the thingsI've been trying to talk a lot
about is just the seasons ofentrepreneurship.
I've had my business since 2012in the online space and I've
seen every season and someseasons twice and three times,
and even as a great businessperson that will do unbelievably
(20:02):
amazing things in the world.
I built an eight figure company.
I've been on the Inc 5000 listmultiple times.
I have six companies now.
I've been there, I've done itall the things and yet I've had
massive failures.
I've had launches that failed.
I had a business partnershipthat I had to dissolve and get
out of.
I could go on and get out ofLike I could go.
I mean, I could go on and onand on.
(20:22):
You will experience everythingand so many times what happens
is we get so fearful, and so ourego is so powerful in those
situations where we feel at risk, that it's like fight or flight
and instead of saying, okay,this is the season that I'm in
and I'm going to push through it, I'm going to keep planting to
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prepare for my next harvest,people are like I'm just going
to start over, I'm going to quit, I'm going to shut this down,
I'm going to restart here, I'mgoing to change my niche, I'm
going to do this thing and youdidn't learn anything.
You didn't learn anything.
And when you do that, that samechallenge will follow you to
that next thing, and that's thepart people don't realize.
When you run from it, it'sgoing to follow you because that
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lesson is the gift of what youneed to learn to get to the next
level.
So you can keep running, you cankeep quitting, you can keep
shutting things down.
You can burn it down, you canstart over, you can change your
niche.
You can keep quitting, you cankeep shutting things down, you
can burn it down, you can startover, you can change your niche,
you can get rid of this person,whatever.
But the lesson that you need tolearn, that's going to actually
elevate you, that's going toactually be the thing that
changes your life.
You have to be able to sit inthe discomfort of working
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through that versus running awayfrom it to truly see your life
and your business elevate.
So that's a little bit ofwhat's behind that for me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is this what you mean when you talk about expanding
your capacity as a leader andthis idea of kind of being your
own glass ceiling?
Is that related?
100%?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
100%, because what I see from people I mean, listen,
I've been in this world for solong, I've seen it all.
I've been there, I've run thatrodeo so many times at this
point I can spot it from amillion miles away and what I
see is so many and specifically,women.
You know, they have the hugevision.
They are totally capable, sotalented, so smart, like such
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strong women.
But their capacity is what'slimiting them and they keep
trying to change strategies,thinking if I just do this thing
, if I just do this thing, andit's like it's their own
capacity is the thing that'sholding them back.
And a lot of times when I thinkabout capacity, I think about,
like, mental load, I think aboutemotional control, I think
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about energy management.
Right, if you're runningsomething that is six figures
versus something that's sevenfigures versus something that's
eight figures which, by the way,none of that even matters it's
what is the experience of lifethat you get to have in doing
each of those things and howmany people do you get to impact
and whatever.
We assign so much value to thesenumbers that really are
irrelevant anyway, but that's awhole nother podcast.
(22:58):
We assign so much value tothese numbers that really are
irrelevant anyway, but that's awhole nother podcast.
We'll do that podcast anotherday.
But when you think aboutcapacity, you have to recognize
that when you set this big dream, when you set this big goal
that you want to get to, youhave to have the capacity to be
able to energetically andemotionally manage what comes
with that dream.
And what I see is people havecapacity for this dream, but
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they wanna have this dream andthey keep thinking that if they
start this and if they try thatand if they fire the fifth
social seller and if they hirethe seventh COO and let me just
do this you know it's like it'san exercise in futility because
it's something that needs to begrown and matured inside of us.
It's not something that isgoing to be had from the outside
(23:46):
in, it's from the inside out,right.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Look, I'm an entrepreneur and I have been
there and done that and it's soeasy for us to think, okay, this
isn't working, I'm going to godo something else.
And especially we're talkingabout the online world there's
always somebody selling you thenext solution.
It's always something.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's wild, and so I just want to help people to
develop that emotional controland that staying power, and
that's why the new season ofKairos, the next season that
we're starting in March, is allabout capacity building, because
I want to help people actuallylearn how to expand their
capacity.
Like how do you concentrate ondeveloping your emotional
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control?
How do you work on developingyour energy management so that
you can actually hold space formore Meaning?
Two people could face the sametwo challenges and one person is
past it in 30 seconds andthey're on to the next thing.
The other person is still therefive days later.
Right, and when you expand yourcapacity, you can be this
person that you can move throughthings and you can keep going,
(24:50):
and that's what's going to allowyou to hold space for more team
, more clients, a biggerbusiness, more income, more
wealth, more abundance, moregiving right, more impact,
bigger market, bigger audienceall of those things.
It's like we want that, but wehave to understand what comes
with that and how to manageourselves to be able to navigate
(25:12):
that right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, Can you give us a little taste of what you're?
You did just give us a tinytaste of what you're offering in
Kairos, but what do you mean byexpanding energetic capacity?
Just even one little.
Are there exercises?
Is it frameworks?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, exercises and frameworks, yes, lots, lots, and
, yeah, we'll be working on thisin the spring in the program.
But so what I want to helppeople do is have more
self-awareness.
It starts with self-awareness,right, starts with
self-awareness, right.
So the first thing is is youhave to understand how you react
and respond to things and, justlike an athlete, your recovery
(25:51):
time from situations is going todetermine how fast you go and
how far you go, right.
And so we want to think ofourselves like we're an athlete.
We're training for the race oflife, right.
And I don't say race of lifelike meaning how fast you're
going through life.
I mean race of life meaninglike there's a lot to this
journey of life that we're onright and it's nice if you can
(26:12):
go through life and you can beat a jog and you can kind of
have stuff coming at you andyou're like, nope, not going to
take that.
So it's first, raising yourawareness.
It's second, developing yourown kind of coping mechanisms
for how you're managing thosethings that are coming your way.
It's third, developing yourability to interface without
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embodying the energy that iscoming from the outside in.
That is a huge thing for women,right.
They interact with someone andthey just absorb and it
overtakes them.
Why?
Because we're empathetic,because we're loving, because we
want to be present with people,because we want to connect
energetically and emotionallywith others.
But what happens is that energythen infiltrates our bodies,
(26:58):
our minds, our spirits and itparalyzes people.
I see women that are sodepleted and so exhausted all
the time because they have goodenergy but then they're
absorbing so many outside things.
So it's a lot and it's hard tocontain in a single conversation
like this, but I thinkbasically it's exercises and
(27:18):
frameworks to develop yourability to manage more from a
mental capability standpoint,which will create greater ease
in your ability to execute andachieve at a higher level.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You do the best job of I think I truly believe
anybody in business ofdescribing that in the most
practical way.
So everyone definitely go checkout Kelly's podcast if you
haven't yet, because you dobreak down business concepts in
a way that it's like, oh okay, Iunderstand and I think that's
really, really important,especially in the world of
(27:55):
energy.
I'm an energy worker and justlive your greatest joy.
Live your greatest joy.
And yes, there's also real lifesituations, especially real
life business situations.
So thank you for being one ofthe people who was really
helping to bring that intoreality for people.
Kelly, can I ask you one finalquestion I like to ask every
single person on this podcastKelly, where do you see the
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magic in the world?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
People believing in themselves.
I think, just believe inyourself.
I think so many people have somuch incredible greatness and
talent inside of themselves andif they just trust themselves
and allow themselves to justtake what is inside and express
(28:39):
it outside of themselves, Ithink that is the magic in the
world, because I think fullyexpress happy people that are
living their life's work whatcould be better than that?
That will make the world abetter place.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Untethered magic.
That's what you just described.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and
sharing today.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thanks for having me.
I loved being here.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
One of the things that Kelly said that bears
repeating.
You didn't come this far justto come this far.
What she mentioned about havingthe courage to keep going and
getting started is the easiestpart, is really different from
what we hear from a lot ofpeople.
It's that courage to keep going.
Stay tuned for Thursday'sthread, where I'm going to pull
out a little thread from thisepisode and go a little bit
deeper.
(29:28):
So stay tuned for that, lookingforward to seeing you there.
So if you would like to connectwith Kelly, I highly recommend
that you do.
If you haven't yet, you canconnect with her on Instagram.
She's Kelly Roach Official.
She's on all of the socialmedia platforms Very easy to
find her.
Her podcast, the Kelly RoachShow.
You can go and follow herpodcast Very insightful business
(29:52):
advice.
Her website'skellyroachcoachingcom and she's
got her current program that isout, kairos.
If that's something that you'reinterested in looking into, you
can find out information aboutthat in all of the places and
all of the ways.
If there's something that yougained from this podcast episode
, I encourage you to share itwith a friend and if you want to
share it with all of yourfriends, you can take a
(30:13):
screenshot of the episode, shareit on social media.
Put a little link to whereyou've been listening to it at
tag me.
Tag Kelly, and we will reshareyour posts.
Thank you again so much forlistening to the episode.
It really means the world to methat you would listen.
I'll see you on Thursday.
You just keep shining yourmagical uniform light out there
for all to see.
See you next time.
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Bye.
Hi and welcome to Untethered with Jen Liss, the
podcast that's here to help youbreak free, be you and unleash
your inner brilliance.
I'm your host, jen, and in thisepisode we're going to talk
about how to expand yourcapacity as a leader so you
don't become your own glassceiling.
You are so capable, let's divein.
Hey there, unicorn, it's Jen.
(00:34):
Welcome back to the podcast.
In today's episode we have avery special guest founder and
CEO of Kelly Roach International.
Guest founder and CEO of KellyRoach International.
Kelly Roach so Kelly has had themost phenomenal journey as an
entrepreneur.
She's so inspiring.
She's one of the only femalefounders in the online space to
build her company from zero toeight figures, and not only that
(00:58):
, with zero debt.
Investors are outside funding.
She has done it on her own.
Kelly is a former NFLcheerleader and a Fortune 500
executive turned eight-figureentrepreneur.
She empowers thousands ofpeople around the globe to
achieve financial and lifestylefreedom through entrepreneurship
.
She is an 11-timeinternationally bestselling
(01:20):
author, top 20 podcast host, aphilanthropist, and she's been
featured in all the majorpublications you can imagine,
won many awards.
She's incredible and thrilledto have her come on the podcast
and talk specifically aboutexpanding our capacity as
leaders, about understanding howwe can truly believe in our
(01:45):
capabilities, release ourselvesfrom the tethers that are
holding us back and truly stepinto the magic your unique magic
that you were meant to createin this world Without further
ado.
Welcoming onto the podcast,kelly Roach.
Hi, kelly, hey, it's sowonderful to have you on.
I myself am just thrilledbecause I know that you're a
(02:08):
wonderful human and you're doingbeautiful things in the world,
and for you to come on and sharewith my listeners your
knowledge is such a huge,freaking gift.
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you, I'm so happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So we are women who are looking to untether and live
our most brilliant lives.
That's what we're here to do,and I see that you are doing
that, and not only are you doingthat, you're helping other
people to do it as well.
What got you to this point ofbeing this person who is able to
reach out and support otherwomen in this way?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
out and support other women in this way.
I just think that it's such agift if you can be a part of
someone else believing inthemselves.
Like I can't even say thatthere was like a thing that
happened that made me say I'mgoing to spend my life trying to
get people to believe inthemselves.
But I think that what could bemore rewarding than seeing in
someone something that maybethey don't even see in
themselves yet?
And then I think it's kind of adual edged sword, because I
(03:13):
think that everything that we dois an opportunity to open a
door or to build a pathway or tobe the shoulders that someone
else can stand on, shouldersthat someone else can stand on.
And so I think that, as women,part of it is us just going for
it and then sharing that journey, and so that other women are
like you know what?
(03:33):
Maybe I can, maybe that can befor me too, but I also think
it's just embracingopportunities to instill belief
in other people and to help themto see that they're not alone
and that the struggles thatthey're facing are not unique to
them, and that there isdefinitely a level of depth of
(03:53):
the journey, of success that youdon't see online which is what
I work really hard on my podcastto talk about and in my content
, because I think that's one ofthe biggest barriers actually to
success is people seeing oneset of information online and
then their experience of thejourney is so different that
(04:14):
they constantly feel thatthey're doing it wrong or
they're out of place, or maybeit's not for them or whatever
the case.
And I think as leadersspecifically as women leaders we
have an opportunity to createcongruence between those things
and bridge them so that peoplekeep going.
You know, and that's what I'mtrying to do.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That feeling of doing it wrong I feel like I'm doing
it wrong is at the heart.
I feel like that's at the heartof so much of our struggle,
feeling like there's a path thatwe are intended to follow, that
is following this rule bookthat's been laid out for us,
like if I accomplish this, andthen this, and then this, and if
I make all of these peoplehappy, then I will be successful
(04:54):
.
And we find that that's nothappening.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and it's all inside anyway, right.
Like, I think one of the thingsthat's so important to remember
is like it's like more than onein a billion chance that any of
us are here and that means thatthere's something really unique
that is available and destinedfor us and it shouldn't look
(05:18):
like anybody else.
It was never meant to.
And I think that's when we getourselves in trouble, when we
compare our journey, our success, our life, our this, our that
to other people because itdoesn't even matter.
It doesn't even matter becausewe're all here to accomplish a
specific life mission that waspredestined and to use our gifts
(05:40):
in whatever way we're invitedto do that.
And I think comparison justkills so much joy.
And I think that's a lot ofwhat's happened.
Also, you know, with the rise ofthe internet, and I think the
internet has so many beautifulthings about it, I mean, listen,
for me, I came from Fortune 500.
I sat in cold, called and hadto go building to building to
sell all day.
So for me, with live streamingand social media, I'm like this
(06:02):
is the greatest gift known toman.
Like I'm like I can't believewe had to sit in yoga pants and
you know, you know, message onsocial media and do these things
Like.
I think the internet's soamazing, but there's also you
have to.
You have to manage your ownmindset around a lot of things
too, right.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, that makes so much sense and it's really easy
to get caught up in it.
What it made me think of thattransition from what you
experienced in corporate andthen coming onto the internet is
I used to do hair years ago.
I did hair and standing on myfeet all day and then I went to
a corporate job and I wassitting behind a desk and I was
like this is the easiest thingin the world.
(06:40):
This is amazing.
I get to sit here all day.
But then eventually I actuallybecame.
I had so many back problemsfrom all of a sudden sitting all
day.
So it's like we start toeventually experience the
challenges of the new thing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, but see, that's exactly the point is, it's up
to us to figure out how toextract the good and not fall
victim to the bad, and that'sthat's growing as a person is
being able to take the good anduse it to your advantage, but
not become a victim of the bad,and that's like self-growth,
(07:16):
right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's.
That's so much of the work.
It's the mindset.
Like you said, did you come outof the womb feeling fully
capable?
I can do this.
You just came into this worldas this person who you are.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't know how much is nature and how much is
nurture.
Here's what I'll say.
My dad worked for a nonprofit.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
There was five kids in myfamily.
We basically lived at thepoverty line.
We had no money.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
There was five kids in myfamily.
We basically lived at thepoverty line.
Like we had no money.
Like my parents were arguingevery day about money and like
about just getting by.
Like the whole our wholedynamic of our life was like
(07:54):
getting by, right, but the onething that my parents did
exceptionally well was they werein my ear all the time.
Like God chose you, god createdyou for good.
Like, have a high standard foryour life, trust that you're
special, trust that you'reblessed.
I love you.
I love you.
So I think part of that is they.
(08:18):
I learned you know everything inyour life experience is
basically like you, you learnsomething that you want to
replicate or you find somethingthat you want to recreate in a
totally different way.
Right so?
My family's financial situation, the dynamic of my parents'
marriage, you know a lot ofthose things.
I was like, ok, we're going todo this all differently, right?
So that was like my lesson andmy warning there there.
(08:46):
But on the flip side, I thinkmy parents really made a
consistent effort on a dailybasis with all of us to be like
you know you're loved and you'respecial, and set a higher
standard for your life becauseyou're not like everyone else
and like you you can go dosomething great, and you know.
I think that's that was a reallyimportant part of you know how
I became, who I am, you know.
But also, I think God picks usfor different things, you know.
(09:06):
I think I think that's why I'mhere.
I think I think I'm here to tolift up other people.
I think I'm here to to serveother people, helping them to
figure, you know, their path andtheir journey.
So I don't know, I don't knowI'm reporting for duty.
I'm just trying to report forduty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm like I don't know , right, you're like I don't
freaking know, I'm justfollowing the breadcrumbs.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's great, I'm just.
I'm just following thebreadcrumbs, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But what you're saying is kicking back and
reinforcing something that yousaid earlier that you are unique
and you're on your uniquejourney and you're that message
that was instilled in you atsuch a young age.
I feel like that is untethered.
That's so freeing.
That is so freaking freeingwhen you realize that I'm not
(09:56):
meant to do it anybody else'sway.
So how has that thought?
I'm not meant to do it anybodyelse's way?
How has that influenced thejourney that you have been on,
specifically in your career?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I mean I know I wouldn't be where I am, because
I think everything that I'veever done that have been like
the best decisions of my lifehave always been like completely
counter, and I think that's oneof the most important things
for each of us to grow into inour lives is to develop more
courage, to trust our owninstincts and to trust our own
(10:30):
intuition and to not hedge ourdecisions by the approval or
permission of other people.
I think a lot of the mistakeswe make come from seeking
validation, permission,recommendation, whatever,
crowdsourcing our decisionsinstead of saying you know what,
(10:52):
let me be quiet and ourinstincts are really, really
good when we allow our instinctsto have a voice, you know.
But a lot of times we outsourcethat, and we're outsourcing it
to people that either don't haveour best interests in mind or
they do have our best interestsin mind but they just aren't the
best people to be makingrecommendations right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I'm curious for you when we talk about tethers,
has there been a tether in yourlife that has come up time and
time again, something that youyourself have like ah, there's
that thing again.
There's that thing that I'mpushing up against, whether it's
approval, validation orsomething else, feeling like you
(11:35):
don't trust yourself or like isthere anything for you?
And we're all human beings andwe all have these things.
Is there anything that's hit?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean, I think for me it's taken me a really,
really it's taken me until like40 years old, right, To get to
the point where I started havingfinancial success, working for
a fortune 500 20 years ago,right, and then I became an
entrepreneur.
I was working my job still, Iwas doing entrepreneurship on
(12:05):
the side and then I finally, afew years ago, became a
full-time entrepreneur.
And I think it took me until II relaunched, I changed my
program the InevitableMillionaire to Kairos, and that
was the first time that I reallymade a decision in my business
(12:26):
and financial life not based onis this the best financial
decision to create security inthat area of my life, and I made
that decision 100%, just on,like pure God calling service,
like no other you know externalthing, and it took me that long,
(12:51):
you know, to, I would say, getuntethered from the financial
situation that I grew up in andI feel like I've always built my
businesses.
I have six companies.
They're all super highintegrity, high value.
The work that we do is so richand meaningful and powerful and
we change people's lives everyday and the goodness has always
(13:13):
been there.
But I don't think that I wasable to fully untether from that
financial upbringing until veryrecently, where I'm just like
you know what.
I trust myself and I trust Godand I trust that I can just do
what I'm called to do and Idon't need to micromanage.
(13:37):
Let's call it micromanage thefinance of it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I think that makes a ton of sense, especially I've
heard you share.
I think it was a previouspodcast interview I listened to
where you were speaking aboutyour story and one of the things
that you shared is that evenyou know saying the word God and
having that be part of who youare in your business and being
outward with it.
That's something that a lot ofus like.
We have things about ourselvesthat we kind of shield because
(14:03):
we feel like others mightperceive it in some way, and so
we will hold that back.
But I think the world is readyfor us to be us.
I think we're living in a time.
It's like it's time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's time, it's absolutely time and you know, I
think that it's been so likejust rich and fulfilling and
joyful for me to finally feellike I can be whole in the way
that I'm building my brand andbuilding my business and not
holding back in that way,holding back in that way, but I
(14:39):
feel like it's different foreveryone, right, like that just
so happened to be something forme, but like it could be totally
different, you know, for otherpeople listening to the show.
But the world is definitelyready and I think people are
buying so much more with intentand concern around the human
that they're buying from nowthan they are just the outcome.
There is definitely a season inonline entrepreneurship where I
think people were just sotransactional they just wanted
(15:02):
to buy the product from theperson that they thought was the
biggest name or they were goingto get the biggest result or
whatever.
And I think people, as they'vespent more time buying in the
online space and they've hadmore experience, they want to
feel alignment and connectionwith the person that they're
buying for from more than everbefore, more than ever before,
(15:26):
and I think now is definitelythe time to just be more of what
you already are and to sharemore of what you already are,
and you don't have to share morethan you want to.
But if it's something that youdesire, like for me, I wanted to
share this.
I was scared, I was very fearful.
I held that back, not because Iwanted to, because I just
(15:50):
didn't.
I didn't, I didn't, I guess,have enough courage.
I guess I would say I didn'thave enough courage, but I think
that you share as much or aslittle as you want to, because
it's your life and your businessand I don't feel that any of us
are required to dump our liveson the internet, although a lot
of people feel that pressure,and a lot of people do that, and
they're on stories all day,every day, and their whole life
(16:11):
is there.
I choose, I can't do that life.
I don't do that life.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And you built a successful business, not doing
that life, which I think is animportant message Very
successful business not doingthat, but yeah, so I think you
share what you want to share.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You share what's important to you, but I think if
you have a concern about theway that people will perceive
your brand or think about you, Ithink more than ever it will
attract the right people, andpeople are truly, truly seeking
that whole relationship with theperson that they're buying from
, more so than just the outcomeof a product or the outcome of
(16:47):
an experience, if that makessense.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, you said the word whole twice in that
conversation, and the first timeI got tears in my eyes and the
second time I felt tingles in myfeet.
There's something aboutallowing ourselves to be the
whole freaking person that weare, and that doesn't mean to
your point, we don't have toshow all of it.
We don't have to stand naked infront of everyone.
You can show what you want towhen you're ready.
Thank you for letting us gothere and talk about that,
(17:12):
because I think it's really,really important and your
willingness to share that justshows the courage that you have
and that you have come to apoint where you're able to talk
about that and where you'reready and you want to.
So I appreciate that very much.
So I have a question for you.
The first time I saw you inperson well, the only time I saw
(17:35):
you in person last year I wasat a retreat and I was offering
breathwork and you came and youspoke and it was so freaking
good.
Kelly, I had this tiny book thatthey gave us and as you were
talking, I was writing one quoteper page.
Let me show you how many pages,how many pages.
I filled up half of this book,one quote per page and I pulled
it out this morning to come andlook at some of the things that
(17:58):
you had shared.
And I was like, oh, and Ipulled it out this morning to
come and look at some of thethings that you had shared and I
was like, oh my gosh, I need tobe reading this every day.
But one of the things that yousaid I'm going to read two of
them.
You said have the courage to becommitted.
That had really landed so hardwith me.
And then, a couple of pageslater, I wrote there is a part
of you who is ready to stopholding back, and maybe this
(18:19):
kind of comes to thatconversation we were just having
.
There is a piece of you at anymoment that is so ready for you
to stop holding back.
And I know this is totally outof context for you, but when I
say that to you, what comes tomind?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, yeah, I mean listen I say this and I think to
the quote that you just readthere.
You know, it doesn't take a lotof courage to get started.
It takes a lot of courage tocommit to keep going.
And I think that's a messagethat people really need to hear
right now, because it's reallyeasy to stop something when it's
not working, to shut somethingdown when it gets hard, to
(18:57):
celebrate starting over,starting something new.
That's the easy part, anyonecan do that.
But what takes real fortitudeand grit and what is going to
build your character and buildyour strength as a person and
actually build the value of whatyou can bring to the world, is
the courage to continue.
(19:18):
It's the commitment to keepgoing when it's hard, when
you're questioning yourself andwhen you are feeling overwhelmed
and when you do have all thosesurge of emotions and fear and
all of those things that come up.
And so I would just say forsomeone that's in that messy
middle that you know you gotstarted, you came this far.
Just remember you didn't comethis far.
You came this far.
(19:38):
Just remember you didn't comethis far, just to come this far.
And I think one of the thingsI've been trying to talk a lot
about is just the seasons ofentrepreneurship.
I've had my business since 2012in the online space and I've
seen every season and someseasons twice and three times,
and even as a great businessperson that will do unbelievably
(20:02):
amazing things in the world.
I built an eight figure company.
I've been on the Inc 5000 listmultiple times.
I have six companies now.
I've been there, I've done itall the things and yet I've had
massive failures.
I've had launches that failed.
I had a business partnershipthat I had to dissolve and get
out of.
I could go on and get out ofLike I could go.
I mean, I could go on and onand on.
(20:22):
You will experience everythingand so many times what happens
is we get so fearful, and so ourego is so powerful in those
situations where we feel at risk, that it's like fight or flight
and instead of saying, okay,this is the season that I'm in
and I'm going to push through it, I'm going to keep planting to
(20:43):
prepare for my next harvest,people are like I'm just going
to start over, I'm going to quit, I'm going to shut this down,
I'm going to restart here, I'mgoing to change my niche, I'm
going to do this thing and youdidn't learn anything.
You didn't learn anything.
And when you do that, that samechallenge will follow you to
that next thing, and that's thepart people don't realize.
When you run from it, it'sgoing to follow you because that
(21:11):
lesson is the gift of what youneed to learn to get to the next
level.
So you can keep running, you cankeep quitting, you can keep
shutting things down.
You can burn it down, you canstart over, you can change your
niche.
You can keep quitting, you cankeep shutting things down, you
can burn it down, you can startover, you can change your niche,
you can get rid of this person,whatever.
But the lesson that you need tolearn, that's going to actually
elevate you, that's going toactually be the thing that
changes your life.
You have to be able to sit inthe discomfort of working
(21:32):
through that versus running awayfrom it to truly see your life
and your business elevate.
So that's a little bit ofwhat's behind that for me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is this what you mean when you talk about expanding
your capacity as a leader andthis idea of kind of being your
own glass ceiling?
Is that related?
100%?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
100%, because what I see from people I mean, listen,
I've been in this world for solong, I've seen it all.
I've been there, I've run thatrodeo so many times at this
point I can spot it from amillion miles away and what I
see is so many and specifically,women.
You know, they have the hugevision.
They are totally capable, sotalented, so smart, like such
(22:14):
strong women.
But their capacity is what'slimiting them and they keep
trying to change strategies,thinking if I just do this thing
, if I just do this thing, andit's like it's their own
capacity is the thing that'sholding them back.
And a lot of times when I thinkabout capacity, I think about,
like, mental load, I think aboutemotional control, I think
(22:37):
about energy management.
Right, if you're runningsomething that is six figures
versus something that's sevenfigures versus something that's
eight figures which, by the way,none of that even matters it's
what is the experience of lifethat you get to have in doing
each of those things and howmany people do you get to impact
and whatever.
We assign so much value to thesenumbers that really are
irrelevant anyway, but that's awhole nother podcast.
(22:58):
We assign so much value tothese numbers that really are
irrelevant anyway, but that's awhole nother podcast.
We'll do that podcast anotherday.
But when you think aboutcapacity, you have to recognize
that when you set this big dream, when you set this big goal
that you want to get to, youhave to have the capacity to be
able to energetically andemotionally manage what comes
with that dream.
And what I see is people havecapacity for this dream, but
(23:23):
they wanna have this dream andthey keep thinking that if they
start this and if they try thatand if they fire the fifth
social seller and if they hirethe seventh COO and let me just
do this you know it's like it'san exercise in futility because
it's something that needs to begrown and matured inside of us.
It's not something that isgoing to be had from the outside
(23:46):
in, it's from the inside out,right.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Look, I'm an entrepreneur and I have been
there and done that and it's soeasy for us to think, okay, this
isn't working, I'm going to godo something else.
And especially we're talkingabout the online world there's
always somebody selling you thenext solution.
It's always something.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's wild, and so I just want to help people to
develop that emotional controland that staying power, and
that's why the new season ofKairos, the next season that
we're starting in March, is allabout capacity building, because
I want to help people actuallylearn how to expand their
capacity.
Like how do you concentrate ondeveloping your emotional
(24:28):
control?
How do you work on developingyour energy management so that
you can actually hold space formore Meaning?
Two people could face the sametwo challenges and one person is
past it in 30 seconds andthey're on to the next thing.
The other person is still therefive days later.
Right, and when you expand yourcapacity, you can be this
person that you can move throughthings and you can keep going,
(24:50):
and that's what's going to allowyou to hold space for more team
, more clients, a biggerbusiness, more income, more
wealth, more abundance, moregiving right, more impact,
bigger market, bigger audienceall of those things.
It's like we want that, but wehave to understand what comes
with that and how to manageourselves to be able to navigate
(25:12):
that right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, Can you give us a little taste of what you're?
You did just give us a tinytaste of what you're offering in
Kairos, but what do you mean byexpanding energetic capacity?
Just even one little.
Are there exercises?
Is it frameworks?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, exercises and frameworks, yes, lots, lots, and
, yeah, we'll be working on thisin the spring in the program.
But so what I want to helppeople do is have more
self-awareness.
It starts with self-awareness,right, starts with
self-awareness, right.
So the first thing is is youhave to understand how you react
and respond to things and, justlike an athlete, your recovery
(25:51):
time from situations is going todetermine how fast you go and
how far you go, right.
And so we want to think ofourselves like we're an athlete.
We're training for the race oflife, right.
And I don't say race of lifelike meaning how fast you're
going through life.
I mean race of life meaninglike there's a lot to this
journey of life that we're onright and it's nice if you can
(26:12):
go through life and you can beat a jog and you can kind of
have stuff coming at you andyou're like, nope, not going to
take that.
So it's first, raising yourawareness.
It's second, developing yourown kind of coping mechanisms
for how you're managing thosethings that are coming your way.
It's third, developing yourability to interface without
(26:33):
embodying the energy that iscoming from the outside in.
That is a huge thing for women,right.
They interact with someone andthey just absorb and it
overtakes them.
Why?
Because we're empathetic,because we're loving, because we
want to be present with people,because we want to connect
energetically and emotionallywith others.
But what happens is that energythen infiltrates our bodies,
(26:58):
our minds, our spirits and itparalyzes people.
I see women that are sodepleted and so exhausted all
the time because they have goodenergy but then they're
absorbing so many outside things.
So it's a lot and it's hard tocontain in a single conversation
like this, but I thinkbasically it's exercises and
(27:18):
frameworks to develop yourability to manage more from a
mental capability standpoint,which will create greater ease
in your ability to execute andachieve at a higher level.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You do the best job of I think I truly believe
anybody in business ofdescribing that in the most
practical way.
So everyone definitely go checkout Kelly's podcast if you
haven't yet, because you dobreak down business concepts in
a way that it's like, oh okay, Iunderstand and I think that's
really, really important,especially in the world of
(27:55):
energy.
I'm an energy worker and justlive your greatest joy.
Live your greatest joy.
And yes, there's also real lifesituations, especially real
life business situations.
So thank you for being one ofthe people who was really
helping to bring that intoreality for people.
Kelly, can I ask you one finalquestion I like to ask every
single person on this podcastKelly, where do you see the
(28:16):
magic in the world?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
People believing in themselves.
I think, just believe inyourself.
I think so many people have somuch incredible greatness and
talent inside of themselves andif they just trust themselves
and allow themselves to justtake what is inside and express
(28:39):
it outside of themselves, Ithink that is the magic in the
world, because I think fullyexpress happy people that are
living their life's work whatcould be better than that?
That will make the world abetter place.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Untethered magic.
That's what you just described.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and
sharing today.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thanks for having me.
I loved being here.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
One of the things that Kelly said that bears
repeating.
You didn't come this far justto come this far.
What she mentioned about havingthe courage to keep going and
getting started is the easiestpart, is really different from
what we hear from a lot ofpeople.
It's that courage to keep going.
Stay tuned for Thursday'sthread, where I'm going to pull
out a little thread from thisepisode and go a little bit
deeper.
(29:28):
So stay tuned for that, lookingforward to seeing you there.
So if you would like to connectwith Kelly, I highly recommend
that you do.
If you haven't yet, you canconnect with her on Instagram.
She's Kelly Roach Official.
She's on all of the socialmedia platforms Very easy to
find her.
Her podcast, the Kelly RoachShow.
You can go and follow herpodcast Very insightful business
(29:52):
advice.
Her website'skellyroachcoachingcom and she's
got her current program that isout, kairos.
If that's something that you'reinterested in looking into, you
can find out information aboutthat in all of the places and
all of the ways.
If there's something that yougained from this podcast episode
, I encourage you to share itwith a friend and if you want to
share it with all of yourfriends, you can take a
(30:13):
screenshot of the episode, shareit on social media.
Put a little link to whereyou've been listening to it at
tag me.
Tag Kelly, and we will reshareyour posts.
Thank you again so much forlistening to the episode.
It really means the world to methat you would listen.
I'll see you on Thursday.
You just keep shining yourmagical uniform light out there
for all to see.
See you next time.
(30:34):
Bye.
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