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A sloppy London win doesn’t make a contender, and that’s where our Sunday starts. We pull apart Broncos hype with context that actually matters—travel, opponent quality, and why “we beat the Eagles” isn’t the trump card it sounds like. The Giants get real praise for playing to rookie strengths instead of forcing a scheme, and we share a handful of fantasy RB names worth stashing before your league wakes up.

Then we pivot from turf to theater. A Leo-led satire lands because it refuses to worship either extreme, and The Smashing Machine shows Dwayne Johnson shedding persona for performance. We go neon with a Tron binge—why Legacy’s ideas aged better than its de-aging, where Ares forgets the Grid, and how Nine Inch Nails keeps the vibe alive without stepping on the score. The main course is a Star Wars deep dive: the prequels’ clunky romance versus Episode III’s payoff, the original trilogy’s edits that help or hurt story logic, and the sequels’ biggest sin—no plan. We debate Rey’s learning curve, Kylo’s emotional ceiling, and still celebrate what sings: the Death Star duel, Crait’s palette, and Rogue One’s war-film spine that Andor smartly deepens. Solo earns a reappraisal once you drop the production noise and enjoy the heist that actually delivers on Falcon, Chewie, and the Kessel Run.

We close with something unexpected and delightful: a symphony-circus mashup set to John Williams. Imperial March, Rey’s theme, Rogue One motifs, Jaws, Superman—paired with aerial silks, a contortion “duel,” and a triple-stack balance act nailed without a wobble. Add a silent disco at a beer festival and you’ve got the thesis: things that know what they are—and commit—win, whether that’s a defense, a trilogy, or a room full of people dancing to headphones.

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Nope.
Two weeks without us.
People have been missing us.
It wasn't two weeks in a row,though.

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That's true.

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It was we're like every other week.
We're very inconsistent rightnow.

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Yes.
Vaguely.
And we don't even let you know.
That's how vague we are.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (00:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
We don't.

unknown (00:20):
Yeah.

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Maybe we're ten minutes before Ihit record, I'm like, meh.
I I'm not coming on the notcoming on the pod because I'm
sick.
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When did you get sick?
Uh five minutes ago.

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SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
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jokes and the clean fun jokes.
Penthouse, you're just straightroster.
Yeah.
And uh although both had greatuh what's it called?
The cartoons, the the one littlelike the far side is the one
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are called, but it was just theone sale.

(02:00):
Um both of them had good goodgood funny.
What was it?
The rim shot?
One shot.
So folks, it's another footballSunday.
Welcome.
Jack, I believe you write a gametoday.
We're about to get to it by theend of the day.
There we go, now it's official.

SPEAKER_00 (02:20):
I uh uh free use or something like that.
Fair use.

SPEAKER_03 (02:24):
Oh, fair use, okay.
We don't make it.

SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
We make zero money off of this podcast, so I mean
the NFL can come at us, butOkay.

SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Well, Jack, at your Raiders Tennessee game, thanks
to London and the Broncos andthe Jets, your game was not the
pillow fight game of the week.

SPEAKER_00 (02:42):
It was not because I didn't even know that game was
on.
And I woke up and I'm like, oh,well, that's a shitty game.
Let's fight everybody out tofucking London so we can play
the last team in the league andbarely beat them.

SPEAKER_03 (02:57):
Bruh, I I woke up uh at halftime and saw the score
and was like, this can't beright.
This should be like 30 tonothing Denver right now, and it
wasn't.
So I went and read the play byplay, and as I'm reading it, I'm
thinking, thank God, I wasn't Ididn't set an alarm to watch
this crap.
I mean, right?

SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
Holy hell.
The people out here in Coloradoafter the second time you find
time you fell asleep reading theplay by play.

SPEAKER_03 (03:25):
Oh dude, for real, reading that, I was I was like,
man, if I wasn't playingfreaking arena magic online, I
would have I would have went.
I was like, this game.

SPEAKER_00 (03:34):
No, that was fucking horrible, dude.
It was mad if I was a Broncosfan.
If I was a Broncos fan and Iflew out there to watch that
shit, I'd be mad they barelywon.
If we only we knew people whohad done that.

SPEAKER_03 (03:46):
They were like a touchdown plus favorite, should
have should have won by 20minimum.
You gave them their firstturnover of the season.
The Jets had not had a turnoverall year, and the very first
drive, Timber fumbled.

SPEAKER_00 (03:58):
Frankly.
I don't know.
Maybe the the time zone was toomuch for the Broncos.

SPEAKER_03 (04:04):
Nah, they were they've been out there since the
first first of the week.
They left, they went to thePhilly game.

SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
Yeah, no, they should have been adjusted then.

SPEAKER_03 (04:11):
Exactly.
They were out there on Monday.
So it's good.
I love it because it's like I'vebeen trying to tell people the
Broncos aren't that good.
The Broncos like, oh, they beatthe Eagles.
I mean, yeah, but the Eaglesaren't that good either.
You know they're not that goodwhen the Giants beat you.
So come on now.

SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
Don't worry, our Lord and Savior, Bonex are.

SPEAKER_01 (04:29):
Oh, yes.
That's what I'm saying.
What I'm hearing is that Loudoes not believe.

SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
He does not.
He's a non-believer.

SPEAKER_01 (04:36):
Non-believer.

SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
That's that's the Deonish shit right there.
Deon Sanders everything you go.
Do you believe?
They have everything listeningto sports radio when they talk
about him.
That's the clip they put up.
Do you believe?
No, man.
I've seen your team play.
You should have got beat byTennessee of all teams.
You got lucky that the Eaglessuck.
You got lucky that Jake Browningwas the quarterback for the

(04:58):
Bengals.
You got lucky that you get toplay the Jets, whose everybody's
get right game.
And you didn't even get rightagainst the Jets.
How bad are you, Denver?
Right.
I can't.
Oh man.
I I have I ain't gonna lie.
Denver's defense is legit.
I'll give them that.
Uh for the most part, theirdefense really is legit.

(05:18):
But the Giants actually have achance.
I didn't, I wasn't gonna givethe Giants a chance to beat him.
And now it's like, holy crap,that's a toss-up game.
It's not even okay, Giantsshould be favored.
No, Denver should be favored.
No, they will be because they'rehome.
But that's a 50-50 matchup rightthere.
That's that's next week's 12fight game of the week.

SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
But the Giants looked really good on Thursday,
though.

SPEAKER_03 (05:38):
Like, yeah, but that's because the Eagles are
bad.
I mean, come on now.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
But but again, you have two rookies, you know,
you're you're playing with housemoney at this point.

SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (05:48):
The Giants look good for next year.

SPEAKER_01 (05:50):
There is something to be said for that.
There's something to be said forguys who don't know what losing
is, right?
And you just throw them in andyou give them a game plan that
actually works for those guys.
Because so many of these headcoaches and offensive
coordinators are like, we'regonna make this guy fit into my
scheme, instead of just saying,like, what are his best
attributes?
Okay, let's let him do that, youknow.

(06:11):
And that was what I felt likethey the Giants did on Thursday
was they were just kind of like,okay, like here's here's a
handful of plays, like just kindof play off of those, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (06:19):
Here's the 15 plays we know you know how to do, just
run them from differentformations.
Yeah.
But the talk I guarantee thetalk this week is gonna be
Broncos should have lost to theEagles, Giants manhandled the
Eagles, and now that they playeach other, if you look at those
comparisons, the Giants shouldwin.

(06:40):
I think the Giants have a chanceto win, but again, I can respect
that Denver does have a gooddefense and that chance of
things.
I don't respect Broncos' offenseat all.
And after what I saw today, I'mjustified.
Justified in believing thattheir offense is offensive.
I think he does believe.
Yeah, see, I believe thatthey're shit.

(07:01):
He believes in the defense.
People forget that Bo Nicks wasthe sixth quarterback taken in
that draft.
I mean, don't get me wrong, he'sbetter than JJ McCarthy, but uh
still he's uh I had a meme on umshit, what is it two days ago?

SPEAKER_00 (07:19):
Cities in history to have their NFL team lose, NHL
team lose, and MLB team lose inthe playoffs and be eliminated
on the same day.
Philadelphia, 1016, 1983, andtoday.
That's it.

SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
That Thursday was great to see the Dodgers move
on, to see the Eagles lose, seethe Flyers lose.

SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
Oh, it was a it was it was a great day in Philly
Hate Sports.
Uh do you hate me sincePhiladelphia freaking sports?

SPEAKER_00 (07:48):
Sorry, that's the the city of brotherly love.
If you went there, they wouldlove you while you were hating
on them.
No, no, they racists.
No, they wouldn't they don'tlove his brother.
They punch him, take his wallet,and go buy a cheesesteak with
it.

SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (08:03):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (08:04):
And then they what the uh get the eight losses and
and then they give up.
So for starting running backs orrunning backs that are
available, for some reason JamesConnor is still starting on
10.9% of all ESPN.

SPEAKER_03 (08:19):
The people who aren't paying attention, like
like like Jack's girl.

SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
Yeah, he's he's he and he and he's still owned on
he's still owned on 34.9% of uhall that makes sense though.

SPEAKER_03 (08:32):
Because some of those could be keeper leads.

SPEAKER_01 (08:34):
Yeah, I guess so.
Uh the next one is Kamani Vidal.

SPEAKER_03 (08:38):
He should be the next he should be the pickup.
He's the charger starter.
After the uh Harris and uh MariHampton went down.
If you don't have Vidal, thendude, grab him.
Can you pick up free agents oryou have to wait till the waiver
wire now?

SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
I have to wait until the waiver now.

SPEAKER_03 (08:53):
See, I'm in one league where there's no waiver
wire uh unless it's unless theplayer is dropped.
But yeah, put him on your watchlist.
You want Vidal.

SPEAKER_01 (09:01):
He's starting over Haskell after him is Austin
Eckler, another IR guy.
After that is Amari DiMarcado,the Arizona running back.

SPEAKER_03 (09:13):
And he's now third string behind Van Knight and uh
Mike or whatever.
Either way, he's third stringnow, so don't even worry about
it.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
And then Jerome Ford, Dylan Sampson, Blake
Coram.

SPEAKER_03 (09:25):
So Blake Corum got hurt anyway.
Man, I know a lot about thisshit.
I need a life.
Right?
Somebody needs to get a job.
Dude, dude, for real.
I was like, I was watching thegame tonight when Detroit got
that touchdown to uh goth thatdidn't count.
I'm all yelling.

(09:46):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,no.
That isn't that is not legal.
That is not legal.
I'm in my head just yelling atthe TV, like, uh-uh.
You well, you got behind center,and then they explained the
rule.
I'm like, yeah, I already saidthat.
They they stole that from myfreaking yelling at the TV here.

SPEAKER_01 (10:01):
Let's get Lou here on uh on how this call went and
how he felt it should go.
Right?

SPEAKER_03 (10:06):
Interesting, interesting to see Detroit kind
of fall off like that the wayKansas City hasn't been all that
great this year, but Detroitmade them look great.

SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Right?
Yeah.
Uh how was your football day,Jack?

SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
It was alright.
Shit, I tried to sleep as longas I could.
So I just woke up, showered,went to the game.
There weren't a lot of Titansfans there.
There was not a lot of people inthat audience.

SPEAKER_03 (10:28):
Was it all four of you?

SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
Uh three of us.
Okay.
One didn't want to go becausefirst she didn't have a Raider
shirt.
I gave her a Raider shirt.
Then she was gonna be gone toolong and not be able to do her
homework.
So when we got home, we're like,well, did you get your homework
done?
No, I just played Marvel Rivalsall day.

SPEAKER_03 (10:50):
No, that's see, that's that's when you take the
the the Xbox controllers, andit's like if you're gonna do
homework, I'm gonna make sureyou're gonna do homework.

SPEAKER_01 (10:59):
That's how that's all right.
And then every time you're on Tevery time then every time
you're on TV during the game,you hold up the Xbox controllers
and you're like, what?
Yeah, and what the rivals righthere.

SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
Join the crowd.
So it's a little loud there forher, so I try not to force her.
Like she did actually want togo, but she found good enough
reasons to not, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Well, you can always do the headphone things, and
there's a lot of kids go withheadphones, like the like the
gun range headphones to tune outto block out the sound.

SPEAKER_00 (11:38):
She has airpods.
The Apple AirPods actually blockout sounds.
Does that work?

SPEAKER_01 (11:42):
But also say I go to stay home and do homework and
then not do your homework.
That okay, that to me is wherewe have a problem.
She's a procrastinator.

SPEAKER_00 (11:50):
I'm yeah, I'm not a homework right now, and it'll be
done by morning.

SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
I mean, I suppose that's all.
But she also has straight Ace.
So just don't don't say that.
You know what I mean?
To me, it's it's it's anintegrity.
Don't say you're gonna dohomework and not do it.
Just say I'm just gonna stayhome.
That's it.
You don't have to go with theI'm gonna do this.
Or you or qualifier, I mightrather stay home and play this.

SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Right.
Or just say you want to stayhome and play Marvel Rivers,
whatever.
Like Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:24):
That's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 (12:25):
Just go with A's, so I'm not.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, again, it's not evenabout the school worker.
It's not even about the school.
I 100% knew what was gonnahappen.
I knew that was gonna happen, soI wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 (12:39):
Did you call her out on it at when she said it?

SPEAKER_00 (12:42):
Uh-huh.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Yeah.
I was.
I would have been like whileyou're playing.
It was like, I'm gonna do this.
Here's my plan.
Like, no, you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 (12:50):
Sit there and play this, or you're gonna do it.
You can turn it in late.
If you get it wrong, you can doit again.
School's way easier than when wewere kids.
That is crap.
Yeah, like, oh, you turned it inlate, but there's no penalty.
Like, oh, you fucked this up.
No, go ahead and take this testagain.
It's cool.
That is whereas we fucked up.
You were kicked out of school,you had to go to like to bad

(13:12):
school on the railroad tracksand shit.

SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
You had to go to Vodec for all the bad kids away
and learn a trait.

SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
You're gonna learn a trait.
Exactly.
That's how you build a chair.
We're about to do that.

SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
You're gonna learn the difference be you're gonna
learn the difference between arcwelding and tig welding.
Let's go.
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (13:31):
Man, for real.
Yeah.
How man, how many differenttypes of knots did you learn how
to tie last night?

SPEAKER_01 (13:37):
Yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (13:39):
Oh my god.
That is so funny.
But yeah, no, I mean, if youdon't you can't do the material,
I'm failing you.
You're repeating you'rerepeating the fifth grade or
whatever to hit nowadays.
Oh, you don't want to hurtanybody's feelings.
Okay, so you'd rather getbullied for being a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
But there's also a financial There's also the are
they learning it, right?
So like can they prove theylearn it?
Maybe they just had a bad testday or whatever, right?
So I guess as long as they canprove they learned it.
I'm not super mad about it.

SPEAKER_03 (14:08):
How do you do that without testing it?
And if you test it, that's whatyou'll take.

SPEAKER_01 (14:13):
I think there's also a financial element of it too,
that the worst in general yourschool does.

SPEAKER_02 (14:20):
Oh whether it's well, yeah, that's a couple
times a year they test for that.
But like it encouragesattendance.

SPEAKER_01 (14:27):
Totally encourages those types of patterns.

SPEAKER_00 (14:30):
Actually, that's gonna make you happy, Lou.
Because um, there are timesshe'll get like a 98 and retake
it just to make the hundred.

SPEAKER_02 (14:36):
I can appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 (14:40):
Or 97, and then she just freaks out.

SPEAKER_03 (14:42):
That's that's an odd no god no.
I I uh you can I can keep the98, but not the 97.

SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah, you got 95.
No! Uncle Lou would hit me.
No, they're okay with fives.
Yeah, five fives.
That's the only odd numberthey're okay with.
93.
Uncle Lou's gonna hit me.
Wait, who's this Uncle Lou?
And what do you mean he's gonnahit you?
93.

SPEAKER_03 (15:04):
Can I get one more point taken off or added,
please?
Right?
It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 (15:08):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
Yeah, it's like, you know what?
Uh, I didn't show my work.
92.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (15:14):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (15:17):
Oh my gosh.
It was like, you know what?
Starting with Thursday, it wasactually a good sports four days
for me.
Dodgers win, aces win, giantswin, USC wins, Pittsburgh wins,
UNLV wins, Texas Tech wins.
It was like basically everybodythat's on my ESPN app for my
favorites of my teams, they allwon.

(15:39):
Even the Lakers won tonight inpreseason games.

SPEAKER_00 (15:41):
They were just doing okay.

SPEAKER_03 (15:42):
Well, the Knights haven't lost in regular seas
regular uh time.

SPEAKER_00 (15:47):
That's true.

SPEAKER_03 (15:47):
I will give them that.

SPEAKER_00 (15:49):
They haven't lost in regulation, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:51):
So even that's okay.
I mean, it started the seasongetting getting used to
everything.
Got Jack Eichel signed for thenext several years.
Again, have not lost inregulation.
I mean, it's it wasn't a badThursday to Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
I mean, they only have 80 games to play, it's no
big deal.

SPEAKER_03 (16:07):
Well, not anymore.
Now they're down to 79.

SPEAKER_00 (16:10):
Yeah.
Better start working on it.
Oh, I mean, hey, they're insecond place.
He's got seven points.

SPEAKER_03 (16:20):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, it it's five assistsit's to be less earning his
money.
I mean, it can only get betterbecause that's usually they they
either start strong and then andthen get back to the mean, or
they start shitty and pick itup.
So either way, this is the startone of the quote unquote start

(16:41):
shitty seasons.
Um they'll be there at the end.
I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 (16:45):
A threat.
They gotta stop losing.
And they beat the sharks, sothat's all that matters.

SPEAKER_04 (16:50):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (16:50):
San Josie.

SPEAKER_01 (16:51):
After one winner's against the sharks, the sharks
do beat the sharks, dude, doyou?

SPEAKER_02 (16:57):
They should totally do that at the games.
They should.
I don't know if I've been to asharks game here.
That would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 (17:04):
We're going to the Ducks in a couple weeks.
I can't remember which ones wewent to.
Chicago, maybe.
I don't even know.

SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
That one game that we can't remember who it was.
Whatever.
Uh there's not a hockey team.

SPEAKER_00 (17:14):
Doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
Yeah.
I'm trying to think and Duke,you don't have hockey.
You don't care all that muchanyway.
The closest would be Seattle,right?
Kraken?

SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Yeah.

unknown (17:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:23):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Not that you give a shit either way.
It's too much.

SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
It's far enough away that I hate all things Seattle.
So that's true.

unknown (17:31):
That's true.

SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (17:32):
Seahawks.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm glad the Marinersare doing it this year.
Didn't the Mariners win tonight?
Fuck the Seahawks.
Fuck Carroll.
Fuck beat Carol.
See, now you got me looking.

SPEAKER_03 (17:42):
I thought the uh because they were because the
start, yeah, the AL startedtonight and Mariners beat the
Blue Jays.
Game one.
I don't know that I like theMariners because Nintendo used
to own them.

SPEAKER_01 (17:53):
You sure?
And the fact like Achiro likewalks out, he like still shows
up.
Or maybe that was the Marlins.
No.
He like still shows up likewhere he went to high school and
like does like batting practiceand shit.
Like goes and like drags flyballs and stuff.
Really?
Yeah, Achiro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he's fucking crazy, dude.
I read like an article with hislike routine one day, and like

(18:16):
he's like fucking 45 years old,and he's out like six in the
morning out running laps and hitand he's not even playing
anymore.
And I'm like, what's wrong withyou, man?

SPEAKER_03 (18:26):
F that.

SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
But he he's still super i guess.

SPEAKER_03 (18:29):
I won't walk a block to the store.

SPEAKER_01 (18:30):
I he's still super competitive and stuff too, so
like he'll be out there.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:36):
I'll check my mail twice a week because I ain't
trying to walk 30 feet to themailbox.
Man, that's wild.
But that's kind of cool though.
Oh, you know what I wasthinking?
You're talking about Nintendoowning.
I was thinking Xbox owning thesoccer team.
But alright.
Never mind.
Yeah, whatever.
Whatever.
Where are we at in the world ofsci-fi?

(18:57):
What do we talk about?
I finished Aliens.
Did we talk about that already?

SPEAKER_00 (19:02):
No.
I don't think we haven'tfinished it by the last time.
Last time I talked about it?

SPEAKER_03 (19:06):
Okay.
Yeah.
Finished that.
No issues.
Enjoyed it.
I have not finished uhPeacemaker yet.
Still got the finale to watch.
What else?
Uh saw the Leo movie.
Battle Another Ground.
One battle after another.
Yeah, that thing.
Uh saw that.
Uh, it was interesting.
It was a whole bunch of makingfun of the far left and making

(19:30):
fun of the far right.
I loved it.
Alright.
We're going to play.
It was like, here are the idiotviolence that the left does, and
everybody knows that they're theviolent group.
And then you have the right sidewho's just racist and just in
their own little clubs who arehypocritical with their I'm
racist, but I'll rape a blackgirl.
You know, one of these type ofthings.

(19:51):
It was like, I'm glad thatthey're fucking with both sides
because this is about us in themiddle, this is how we all look
at the far left and far right.
The world.
Yes, it's like, you idiots overhere, yeah, that's how we see
you.
You idiots over here, yeah,that's how we see you.
And it was like, I like thatthey did that.
And and the story itself waspretty much.

SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
So I enjoyed that movie.
I heard the opposite, they justmade fun of the right the whole
time.
So but that was probably from aright person.

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
I don't know how you could say that when all the
movie starts off with nothingbut the left doing nothing but
violence.
It's like, it's like, did GeorgeGeorge Floyd part of this movie?
Like, what is going on here?
Um so it it yeah, there's therewhoever said that they're only
making fun of the right, theydidn't watch the movie.
There's no way they could havesaid that because they're making

(20:38):
don't get me wrong, it's justthat they're just different.
But it's making fun of the righthow they're the way like I
described versus the violence ofthe left.
If you don't see the violence ofthe left as as wrong, then okay,
maybe you're not noticing thatas you know what I mean.
It's like, oh, the the leftdoing violence is.

(20:58):
Yeah, it's like it's part of thecultural.
I do hate the blacks, but youknow, I'll rank it.
You know what I mean?
We're not making fun ofanything.
Well, they can have all my butno, it was it was absolutely
making fun of the the violenceof the left and the hypocrisy
and the racism of the right, andthey did a great job with it.

(21:19):
And I it's like, oh my god, thismovie's so I could say woke, no,
it wasn't.
It was so anti this, no, itwasn't.
They did a great job of pickingon both sides, and I uh it was
two hours and thirty minutes uhbefore credits started, so damn.
Uh but it was good, it was welldone.
It was well done.

SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
Well, I guess we'll have to wait until next week to
get Jack's feedback.
But Yeah, oldest is bagging thesame thing.
You watched it, right?
Yeah.

unknown (21:47):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (21:47):
I liked it.
I liked it a lot, yeah.
I thought it was funny.

unknown (21:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
Oh, yeah.
Again, when you're when you'renot taking sides and you're just
making fun of all of it and justhow inane and stupid it all is
at the end of the day.
I mean, that was a big part ofit too, was just like what at
the end of the day, what are youactually like, what matters,
right?
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (22:06):
So but yeah, it was funny too.
I mean, it's not not even justthe whole, okay, they had this
thing, this happening.
There are a lot of moments inthere where where I was just
like, U TF.
Just kind of like head tilt.
It was like, okay, thathappened.
It was it was a little bit ofsilly fun going on there too.
Yeah, I I liked it.
Leo Leo did a good job in thatmovie.

SPEAKER_00 (22:27):
Uh-huh.
He always does.

SPEAKER_03 (22:30):
Yeah, that is true.
He's pretty good.
Although I wasn't buying him asa 45-year-old.
It was like fucking old.
I was all like, I honestly don'tknow how old he is, but I was
like, he's supposed to be 45 inthis movie?
That don't seem right.

SPEAKER_01 (22:45):
He's our age, dude.
He's like 50 or something.

SPEAKER_03 (22:47):
That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
I thought he was past 50, like 52 or something.
He is.
He was born in 74.
So yeah, he is 50.
51 this year?
Okay.
Yep.
Yeah.
November 11th is his birthday.
So he'll turn 51.

SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
I will say the only the only thing I hate about the
Regal app is it doesn't show youmore than like a couple movies,
like that you're past.
Like Fandango, I can scroll backand see through all my movies.
Because I was like, well, whatelse have I seen in the last two
to three weeks since we haven'ttalked about it?
Oh, we went and saw the smashingmachine on Tuesday.
That was really cool.
Oh, the wrestling movie.
Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 (23:21):
That got that bombed.

SPEAKER_01 (23:23):
Well, and it's I think it's because there was a
lot of people expecting The Rockto be The Rock.
I mean, he's not The Rock.

SPEAKER_00 (23:28):
He's I can see that.

SPEAKER_01 (23:30):
But he did a really good job portraying.
Yeah.
That was the stuff that I agree.
Yeah.
I mean, they are.
Well, and again, it's him andEmily Blunt who were in Jungle
Book together, right?
So like I think people expected,you know.
And again, when The Rock doesn'tplay the rock in a movie, they
don't it they don't come out towatch him.

(23:50):
It just doesn't.
Wait.
But it was a really good movie.
I enjoyed it.
I'd have to look.
I don't remember one.
There have been other movieswhere hang on, I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_03 (24:00):
That's one of those movies where what it's kind of
it's kind of like Stranger ThanFiction.
Stranger than Fiction isprobably one of my favorite Will
Farrell movies, and he doesn'tplay Will Farrell in that movie.
And that's probably why I likeit, because I find him slightly
annoying.
Like I've never seen Steph, I'venever seen Talladega Knights.
And it's only because of WillFarrell.
And it's not that I think it'sgoing to be a bad movie when I

(24:20):
eventually watch him, and Iwill, like Elf.
I watched Elf for the first timetwo years ago, and I like it.
It's just I just need to buildup to it.
Kind of like that, I can't thinkof his name.
Is it Seth Rogan?
The dumbass from PineappleExpress.
Same thing.
I'm sure he's in movies that aregood, but it takes me a minute
to watch anything.

SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
So when I say he's playing The Rock, I mean he's
playing the Rock that you see inJungle Cruise, uh, the Jumanji
movie.
Jumanji.
Skyscraper, Rampage, SanAndreas.
Like, that's so when I say he'syeah, but he and this I'm trying
to figure out what movie was he,yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:57):
What movie besides this one is he knocked that?

SPEAKER_01 (24:59):
I think that's like his first like really dramatic
role, though.
Yeah, I think this might be off.

SPEAKER_03 (25:05):
So But see, to me that that's the stupidity of the
people because the trailers showyou that he's playing that role.
He has hair.

SPEAKER_00 (25:14):
Yeah, totally different.
I mean, that's where it is.
He lost a lot of mass, too.
Like, he's not he cut off theroids for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
Yeah, I don't again.
That's just dumbass, dumbasspatrons if they have that
belief.
Because I want I know it andfirst of all, I mean, it's an
A24 movie, so that should tellyou a lot too.
Not that A24 are bad movies, butthey're they're movies that
actually have emotion to them.
A lot of them, by the way.
They they they write goodstories for the most part in

(25:44):
A24.
So they produce or I don't knowwhat distribute, whatever the
word I'm looking for is theirmovies.
I'm when I eventually I watchthat movie, I'm expecting
something more along thecritically acclaimed side of it.

SPEAKER_01 (25:57):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
You know what I mean?
So I don't to me that again,that shit's a fault of the fate.

SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
Yeah, watching the trailer, I'm like, oh, this is
not a rock movie.
At all.
Like he barely even looks likehim.
I think I I like you have tosquint your eyes and turn your
head a little bit, and you'relike, oh wait, that is the rock.

SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
First trailer I watched, it was like, is that
the rock?

SPEAKER_01 (26:18):
I mean, but it was really good.
Him and Emily Blunt did a reallygood job.
They have a lot of goodtogether.

SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
That's right there for EmilyBlunt.

SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
Well, and it was amazing how many like real
fighters that they had, real UFCfighters they had in acting in
parts and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
So Emily, I got a point.

SPEAKER_00 (26:38):
Jack, why did you and Lou break up?
Uh we had a chance at EmilyBlunt, and uh we both have
concussions now.
Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_03 (26:45):
The first time I went to Paris was Emily Blunt.

SPEAKER_00 (26:48):
Shit.
So oldest had me pick her upearly from school.
Whatever reason.
Oh, she actually puked when Igot her home, so she did have a
legit reason.
Um so we watched the first Tronmovie.
Oh, that's funny.
I did that early the earlierthis week with old girl.
And then she's like, thismovie's old as fuck, and the
graphics are horrible.

(27:08):
I mean I don't know what's goingon.
1982 or whatever the hell itwas.
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
And then Tron and Flynn kind oflook the same, I guess, but I'm
like, no, Flynn has the robe on.

SPEAKER_02 (27:20):
That's a tough part.

SPEAKER_00 (27:25):
And then yesterday morning we watched the first
half of the second one.
And then we went to go see Aresin 3D, because it's Tron, so you
have to watch it in 3D.
IMAX.
Tron and Avatar, you have towatch in 3D.
IMAX 3D.
Yeah, right.
Is that a thing?
Our regal's not IMAX.
I'm making it.

SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
Oh, is it really a thing?
Okay.
I haven't been to IMAX moviessince I went with you to see
Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 (27:49):
Fair.

SPEAKER_03 (27:50):
Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (27:51):
I did not like Aries at all.

SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
Oh, dang.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
So then we came home and finished watching Legacy,
and she's like, this is waybetter than Ares.
I'm like, you know what?
You're right.
Legacy was a pretty legit movie.

SPEAKER_03 (28:05):
I I still to this day, like I'm probably watching
I'm probably watching Legacytomorrow.
And then I guess there was someanimated thing that came out
after Legacy, like two yearsafter that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:15):
So I'll watch uh eight episodes thing or
something.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:19):
So I'll try to get that in there too.
I don't know how relevant it isif I need anything from there.
If not, I'm not gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_01 (28:24):
I mean it just gives it just gives more um Yeah, like
Easter eggs.
It's like really like novelsfrom Years of War.
It builds more.

SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Then I'll I'll probably justfocus on just legacy.

SPEAKER_00 (28:34):
Uh that way Tron upgrade Tuesday night Aries.
I didn't mind it though.
But also I don't hate Jared Letolike some people do.
A lot of people hate Jared Leto.
Morbius.
Um I mean, he just because weirdthe Joker, his Dallas Bayers
club.

SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
If you're gonna mention bad stuff, mention good
stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
Well, I people don't like him being the main
character, I think.
He's not he's not a lead.

SPEAKER_03 (29:00):
Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_00 (29:01):
Yeah.
So but I didn't mind it.
I mean, it was pretty, itentertained me well enough.

unknown (29:08):
Shit.

SPEAKER_00 (29:11):
It was good.
Uh Daft Punk did better, but Imean it's nails did alright.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nine Inch Nails can make thatkind of music, so it was not
horrible.
And it's not like Trent Reznorwas singing the whole time or
anything.
So there was like one song Inoticed he was actually singing.

SPEAKER_03 (29:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (29:28):
Um but and that's what my oldest said, why are you
gonna watch a Tron movie whenmost of it takes place in the
real world?
I'm like, fuck you're right.
They forgot who they were.
Right.
But that being said, I do hopethey make another one because
mid-credit scene teases somegood shit.

(29:50):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
So after watching mid credit, no end credit.

SPEAKER_03 (29:54):
Mid credit only, okay.
After watching the first oneagain, uh Uh it I didn't realize
how much I didn't understand itwhen I was younger.

SPEAKER_00 (30:06):
I agree.
Because when I watched it againon Monday, I'm like, I do
understand more of this.
When I was a kid, I'm like, fuckyeah, light cycles and identity
discs, and we're just gonna fuckshit up.

SPEAKER_03 (30:15):
And and playing an arcade game in Japan, wherever I
was, Texas or Japan.
I remember playing the arcadegame, the whole like, oh, I
remember this from the game andall that.
But actually paid attention andbeing old enough to understand
the concept of what's happening.
I was like, oh, this might bethe first time I truly 100%
understand what is happening.

SPEAKER_00 (30:33):
Yeah.
Like even when I rewatched itbefore Legacy came out, I
probably didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 (30:38):
Yeah, right.
It was and it like like it'slike I told you guys before, I
don't remember jack shit aboutLegacy.
I I Same.
I could not, right now, you say,hey, what happened to Legacy?
It's like for a million dollars.
I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (30:52):
Yeah, until we rewatched it, the only thing I
remember was how weird JeffBridges looked de-aged.

SPEAKER_03 (30:57):
Yeah, I remember that.
But I don't remember like whyhe's the-aged.
Is he is that a computer versionor is that him real version back
in the game?
I have no idea.
So it'll be all brand new for mewhen I watch it again tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 (31:09):
Same.
You have 19 episodes for the TVshow.
Oh, I think that's this on FYI.

SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
Yeah, never mind.

SPEAKER_01 (31:16):
The main character is voiced by Elijah Wood,
though.

SPEAKER_03 (31:18):
And that is after it takes place after or during
Legacy.

SPEAKER_01 (31:22):
After Legacy.
After Legacy.
So Legacy came out 15 years ago.
It's kind of wild to thinkabout.

SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
I think he had a son.
I think Jeff Bridge's characterhad a son.

SPEAKER_00 (31:31):
Yes.
That's the main character of uhLegacy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:35):
And I can see the kid's face.
He was in something else.

SPEAKER_00 (31:38):
He actually has not been in a lot.
No, he has it's possible you'veseen him in something.
He has not been in a lot.

SPEAKER_03 (31:43):
No, but I I remember his I could see his face, but I
can't.
Whatever.
Either way.

SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:47):
So so yeah.
So that'll be.

SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
Whatever, Olivia Wilde's in it, so that's all you
need to know.

SPEAKER_03 (31:54):
This is her version of Sandra Bullock and
Demolition.

SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
Skin tight suit, little pod cut.
What might you know him from?
Let's see.
Nothing, dude.
I looked him up too much.

SPEAKER_03 (32:06):
I can totally see his face, though.

SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
He's like in an episode of this, an episode of
that.
He's in the Sylvester Stalloneshow, I think, that's on.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (32:14):
Tucson or Tulsa, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
Tulsa, yeah.
There was a Tron the Next Dayshort, I guess, that was
released in 2011.
He was in.

SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
Not Tron.

SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
We would know him probably from Country Strong.
Definitely.
Uh he was in Aragon, FourBrothers, Friday Night Lights.
So he was in Troy.
He's one of those, he's a prettyface.
He's but it doesn't, you know.
He hasn't done anything that'sbeen exceptional.

SPEAKER_00 (32:41):
You're like, oh shit, I gotta see him.
Garrett Headland's coming outwith a new movie.
Let's fucking go.
And then uh Calcestus was in itfor like two seconds.
I was like, dang it.
I should have had a minute more.
In Legacy?
No, in uh Aries.

SPEAKER_02 (32:56):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
So he's basically right now we're doing spoilers.
Yeah.
It was just a program.
No big deal.
We're seeing that on I'm gonnasee it on Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
As you should, as you should.

SPEAKER_03 (33:07):
Yeah, both of us did.

SPEAKER_00 (33:09):
I mean his Aries uh identity disc was cool.
Evan Peters was a really goodbad guy.
I do enjoy him.
Jillian Anderson plays his mom.
So it I wasn't bored, right?
Yeah, two hours, you know.
So yeah, probably one.
But what somebody said it isdefinitely the third best drawn
movie.
I'm like, I don't disagree withthat either.
Well, considering how much hateLegacy got.

unknown (33:31):
Right?

SPEAKER_00 (33:32):
I didn't think people like Legacy that much
either, but I think it's inhindsight, a pe a lot of people
are like, no, it wasn't thatbad.
Like the prequels?
Yeah, exactly.
People forget how much theyhated it.
And then when they revisit it,they go, Oh like, oh, I was so
blinded by all the hate.

SPEAKER_03 (33:48):
I was gonna say my hate is simple enough.
Like like the shit that I hate,I still hate.
You know what I mean?
It's that's like, oh, this is ifif like episode one, a lot of
people hate episode one for alot of reasons.
Well, actually don't have thesame hate that people have.
Like Jar Jar, I understood himjust fine.

SPEAKER_01 (34:06):
And he That's because you're black.
It probably also and you alsohave the brain of a child.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (34:13):
He's got the any you know, Jar Jar's got those big
lips.
I was I was relating to or maybewalk around barefoot.

SPEAKER_00 (34:18):
Lou's like, nah, I'm out.
Fuck Jar Jar.
Walk it on the sand barefoot.

SPEAKER_03 (34:23):
Fuck off.
He steps out, he steps out ofthat late, sand's getting up,
and it's like, oh god.
See his tongue's even like JarJars.
Exactly.
How whooped.

SPEAKER_00 (34:33):
Shit.
No, I think that's all wefocused on this week was just
making sure we saw all of Tron.
So we could watch that.

SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
See, man, see now you got me going down a rabbit
hole.
I'm like, now I'm curious thatyour guys' 11 Star Wars movies,
we're not counting animated, 11Star Wars movies, uh like Wait,
wait.

SPEAKER_01 (34:51):
I only have 10.
You guys have eleven?

SPEAKER_03 (34:55):
Bizarro will have the 11.
Um, okay.
See like I I don't know that Ihave I have a lot of I have not
even a lot.
I have hate for things, but likethe movie itself, like like not
not that we had any homework forthis, but just straight through,
I'm just trying- I'll give youmine.

(35:15):
I don't think we'll have time togo over everybody's, but uh just
because it's in my head, it'sgonna bug me if I don't talk
about it.
Like episode one, uh there's nota whole hell of a lot that I
really uh hate, you know.
Episode two, the love story wasforced.
That's really the main thing forme.
You just forced a love story.
Episode three, I didn't mind,it's probably my third or fourth

(35:36):
favorite.

SPEAKER_01 (35:37):
Uh do we want to talk about each episode as we
talk about them, or do you wantto talk about all of them now
and then?

SPEAKER_03 (35:41):
Well, if you guys you guys have uh yeah, if you
guys have something to do withit.
Well, you did one through three.
Yeah.
One through as a pre prequels,really it's episode two's love
story.
That's that that's the mainthing for me that stands out.

SPEAKER_01 (35:54):
I mean, the the thing for I mean, Jack and I saw
episode one 19 times.
Yeah.
So like so episode what?
We did one through.

SPEAKER_03 (36:04):
19?
Okay, you got 19 times.
I only saw 12 in the theater.

SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
But I mean, we lived in LA, so we got to see it in
like fucking every singleversion.
Like, that was when like Dolbylike cinema was just starting to
become a thing, and we had oneof the four theaters in the
entire country that had, andeverybody was like, Oh, it's
gonna be so expensive, nobody'sgonna buy it.
Like, and we were like, Well, weshould go watch this, and you

(36:31):
know, we went fucking saw wewent and saw we went and saw
Meet Joe Black to watch watchthe trailer.
Like, I mean, if we want if wecould we could talk about
trailers at some point, butbetween that I'm still waiting
for the part about the hate.
Well, so I didn't have I I don'thave any problems at all with
episode one.
I still will watch episode onewith no qualms.

(36:52):
My biggest problem is that Inever felt that Hayden and
Natalie had any chemistry as faras romantic.
Like I could see them as beingbuddies, I blame them.
But I never well the I mean, butalso I never yeah, I mean the
story was part of it, but I justdon't feel like they ever had
anything real like it never feltlike a real organic thing of why
they would actually, you know,it felt more real than the

(37:13):
climate wars.
So the so the the love the lovestory also bugged me because it
just kind of seemed yeah,shoehorned in and didn't seem
natural in any way, shape, orthey forced that shit like I was
watching freaking never mind, uhZelly More.
Super girl and her sister.
Uh episode three, I don't haveany problems with it.
Okay, Jack Prequels.

SPEAKER_00 (37:34):
Any uh No, the second one, I I agree.
It the love story is a littleweird, but I mean Anakin was
weird.
They probably shouldn't have hadsuch a large time gap.
You can't be like, oh, I haven'tseen you in 20 years.
What's up, girl?
And she's like, yeah.
And she's like, I look exactlythe same.

SPEAKER_01 (37:52):
I look exactly the same, and you've changed a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Yeah, exactly.
And all my handmaidens haven'tchanged aged at all.
No, they all still look thesame, except that one's dead.
R.I.P.

SPEAKER_03 (38:04):
I mean, they have that good water on Naboo.

SPEAKER_01 (38:07):
I guess, yeah.
They have they're part black.

SPEAKER_03 (38:12):
They're still age, man.
Most people look at me and theywon't they won't say, Oh, yeah,
of course you're 50.
They don't they don't thinkthat's that does work.

SPEAKER_01 (38:19):
No Naboo don't crack.
But then in episode And now wehave the title of this week's
pod.

SPEAKER_00 (38:26):
Episode three, I have the same problem.
That part where they're on thebalcony in Pami's apartment.
You're so beautiful.
Oh, I'm in love.
No, because I love you.

SPEAKER_01 (38:35):
No, I love you.
But again, that's to be the lovestory.
That was just a continuation.
Yeah.
So two and three.

SPEAKER_03 (38:42):
That goes more with the left of chemistry that I
think Duke was saying.
The writing, we all know howthat gets up at all that great.

SPEAKER_02 (38:47):
How George is.
But all right.

SPEAKER_00 (38:49):
No, I mean, I'll watch any of the prequels.
I don't even care.
I like episode two.
I like Django.
I like clones.
I like all that shit.

SPEAKER_03 (38:56):
I I could I mean, for me, the order is three, two,
one.
Uh, I could watch three byitself and whenever, and I still
get like a lot of love in myheart when the mask comes down
and you hear that sealing of themask, that high-pitched squeal.
It was like, oh, it still getsme every time.
Like, oh, somebody give me asuck.

SPEAKER_01 (39:17):
Lou's getting it.
Lou is becoming Sean Penn.

SPEAKER_03 (39:21):
Oh my god.
Jack don't know that yet.

SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
Uh Jack's laughing.
He's like, wait.
Wait, yeah, yeah.
You'll find out when you'regoing to be able to do that.
No, I mean Sean Penn's a weirdo,so it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
But wait till you see him in this movie.
Holy shit.
Um, okay, 456.
Okay.
Any hate, I'm trying to think.
And it doesn't matter if youwant to go special edition,
original, whatever.
Like, some people like, oh, myhate is I don't like they
brought in the spread the CGILD.
Like, that is none of thatbothered me.
Uh the the whole uh Greedoshooting first, I don't like it,

(39:50):
but I'm not gonna go I'm notgonna put that with like the
hate.
It's like, okay, I just don'tprefer that, whatever.
Um I don't know that I had alike when I watch four, I don't
think, oh god, here's this part.
I don't think that.
Five, get out of here.
Anybody has a problem with fiveand go to hell.
Um and then six, like thebiggest problem people talk
about Ewoks, they didn't botherme at all.
I mean, I'm not sure that I hada real issue with any of the

(40:14):
original.

SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
I think that's because we were children and
that's how we we grew upwatching them, right?
Yeah, it's rose-colored glasses.
It might be honest 100%.
People need to accept that thatStar Wars will never be the same
for us going forward because wewere kids.
That shit was amazing when itcame out.
So we can't find I'm not sayingwe can't find flaws in it, but

(40:37):
we overlook it because we arewho we are, we're friends.
This podcast, everything in ourlife was shaped by the original
movies.

SPEAKER_03 (40:46):
First, even Duke and I there are no flaws, you can't
find any.

SPEAKER_00 (40:50):
So this is true.
But even Duke and I beingfriends, even though it went to
the prequels, it's because welike Star Wars before.
So moving forward, that's youknow.
Yeah, so even then, I like theprequels a little more because
it was a good time in my life.

SPEAKER_03 (41:06):
Yeah, but even now though, you're you're both of
you, all of us, we we're allintelligent enough now that we
can look at it and havecriticisms if we actually had
criticism.
Like I go back all the time andlook for criticisms, I just
can't find any with four, five,and six.

SPEAKER_01 (41:21):
My biggest criticism is I don't I don't mind any of
the special edition stuff.
Like the Jabba's, whatever.
They could have I feel like theycould have done better with the
VFX that they had, but withJabba supposed to be a human
person or they were gonna comphim in after or whatever, but
just never did.
My biggest complaint is in inepisode five when when Luke

(41:41):
jumps off the weather vane andin the special edition they made
him scream.
I feel like that completelyundermined because to me that
was when that was when he becamea Jedi.
That was when he because he wasconsciously making the decision,
I could go and join my dad, or Icould just see what happens by
letting myself go.
Like letting myself become oneto me, that was him his first

(42:05):
really opening himself upcompletely to the force, and the
force, you know, sending himdown that tube, that type of
thing.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
But when they took that out in the uh Blu-rays,
though.
I think when the Blu-rays cameout, I think they took it out.
Then maybe even the even themaybe even the silver DVDs that
came out, they might have takenit out.

SPEAKER_03 (42:25):
Because if I'm dropping like that, or any other
real person dropping like that,they're screaming.
And nobody's gonna drop us.

SPEAKER_01 (42:32):
Yeah.
To me, it was a to me, he did itas a conscious decision that
there was if he did it as aconscious you don't hear people
when they jump off roofs ofbuildings screaming if this is a
decision that they've made, Iguess, is my thing.
So and my point is that was whatthat was how I always read that
scene before, right?
So then when they added thescream in later, to me, it

(42:53):
undermined the decision that hemade.
To me, I was like, okay, upuntil that point, he was like,
uh, Jedi, maybe, uh, the force,maybe he hadn't really bought
into it, even when he's gettingin the X-Wing to fly to Cloud
City to save his friends,because even Yoda's like, you're
not ready, you're not ready.
But I feel like once he getsdone fighting Vader, and Vader's

(43:16):
like, I'm your father, and thenhe has he has a decision to
make, right?
Because he could have easilycame off the he could have
easily stepped off of thatweather vane and joined his dad,
right?
Like that would have been toWendergir another logical
decision to make, right?
It's your dad, it's the personthat you haven't had.

SPEAKER_03 (43:36):
They wouldn't scream.

SPEAKER_01 (43:37):
They shouldn't.
I mean, that was how they soldit.
That's that's how they sold itin the with the first movie.
Like, I mean, when the moviefirst came out, and so to me,
that's how I always read it.

SPEAKER_03 (43:46):
So the scream, to me personally, under I take that as
they forgot to put the screamin.
That's how I work.

SPEAKER_00 (43:51):
No, because we had the Wilhelm scream.
You have to go back and read thenovel or listen to the radio
drama or something.

SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
Yeah, but that's my only problem with it.
But if they take it back out,then obviously they thought the
same way you did.
I'm not saying they're perfectmovies, but yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_02 (44:06):
You should be.

SPEAKER_01 (44:08):
Like I said, the little things though, don't I
mean I prefer the original songover Jedi Rocks.

SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
I've you know, like Yeah, like the little things I'm
not worried about.
It's just I'm thinking like likeI said, the big things that's so
far through six movies, the lovestory and episode two was just
atrocious.
It was gross, it was veryimportant.
It was so bad.
And the rest of it, no realissues.

SPEAKER_00 (44:32):
But we got Batman uh leather gear, so fucking it was
worth it.

SPEAKER_03 (44:36):
There is that.
Okay, 789 or 7-8 if you're due.
Seven, I understand.
Oh, first of all, I don't have Ireally don't have much with an
issue with 7 other than Ray.
The whole now, now this is thisis film.

SPEAKER_01 (44:51):
I don't have a problem with the movie except
for the main character.

SPEAKER_03 (44:55):
Um yeah, exactly.
Her soundtrack her soundtrack.
They actually played hersoundtrack or her theme uh
during the symphony last night.
I'll explain that later, butthat was kind of cool.
Um but and it was it again,here's the thing.
I don't like it on film hercharacter, but her character is

(45:18):
explained more so in the novel,so it's less irritating to me.
Because I understand that.
But when I first saw it, though,it was like this fucking bitch d
doesn't have to learn a goddamnthing.
That's bullshit.
Then you read the novel, likesome of the stuff she learned,
it's because when Kylo did hishis mind mailed uh with her, she

(45:41):
picked up a lot of that, andthey explained that to the
novel, but they don't explainthat in the in the movie.
So once I understood that it waslike, oh, okay, now I'm less
pissed off that she just happensto know everything like that
because it was basicallytransferred to her.
I'm like, oh, Kylo, you screwedup.
He didn't know he screwed up,but he did.
So cool.
That got fixed later, you know,after I understood that.

(46:01):
But early on, that was myproblem with it.
I know a lot of people had aproblem with with it because
they're like, oh my god, theyjust redid episode one.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
They redid episodes, or the theoriginal rather, they did redid
episode four.
And I'm all like, first of all,they redid episode four, five,
and six, get it right.
Um but those of us back in 2015,we understood why.

(46:25):
They had so much hate for theprequels and so much love for
the originals, they wanted to dosomething that was more similar
to the originals, which is whythey rehashed the story and made
it episode seven.
Just bring in new characters soyou can set up the rest of eight
and nine.
And then there's where theproblem comes in.
Eight did not feed on seven, andnine did not feed on eight.

(46:47):
It was like, eight is like, I'mgonna do my own thing.
Who cares what happened inseven?
It's like, okay.
And then you go to nine, it'slike, we're gonna ignore what
happened in eight and kind of goback to seven and fill in all
these gaps, and it was like,what the hell are you guys
doing?
There was just no start-finish,we have no plan of how seven,
eight, nine are gonna work.
We're just gonna make seven, andthen we're gonna make eight, and

(47:08):
we're gonna make nine, and we'regonna see how we can put it all
together and see what happens.
And that's where my problem withthe uh sequels are is just the
no by themselves, were theyokay?
By themselves?
You know what's funny you saythat because I I know a lot of
people hate episode eight.
I liked episode seven very much.
I like episode eight separatefrom the storyline.

(47:29):
Like if eight was its own thingand it was a direction they were
gonna go with eight, whatever, Idon't mind eight by itself, uh
in that in its own little world,bubble world.
It's the fact that it's part ofthe whole thing, is why it
doesn't fit for me and doesn'twork for me.
Uh like if nine picked up moreon eight, I probably would be

(47:50):
okay more with eight.
But eight is really out of placebecause of seven and nine.
The way those two were, I knowJJ versus um uh big ed.
So, you know, that whole thing.
Uh that's really my only issuewith it.
Like, if like people are like,oh my god, I'm not watching
eight, eight, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, not me.
I have to separate myself fromthe rest of the Star Wars

(48:11):
universe when I watch eight, butI do enjoy watching eight.
Nine was just let's just getfrom here to here.
Nine was like watching episodethree of Harry Potter.
Episode nine was the third HarryPotter web.
Hit these high points, it'snon-stop.
We're gonna play this puzzlegame here.
A leads to B, leads to C, leadsto D.
It was like, okay.
I'm I was okay with it.

(48:31):
I didn't think it was great, butI think it was a bad either.
So well, that was for me, sevenand you guys.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
Well, Duke only has two, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:40):
What'd you think of seven and eight?

SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
I mean, I I'm one of those guys that I didn't think
that seven was very original atall.
Okay.
Which kind of bugged me a littlebit.
Just because, like, okay, soyou're you're recasting your
characters into these differentthings.
It's always good to see the the,you know, the first time that
you see Han and Chewie show upand that type of thing.
It's like, you're like, okay,cool, but then re-watching it
later, you're kind of like, doesall this actually fit?

(49:05):
Like, does this would heactually be this dumb?
Would this, you know, would thedoes the story choice make
sense?
Like, but again, he was tryingto form it into his whatever
boxes he was trying to create.
But again, with each of thesemovies being created in their
own little bubble, notnecessarily tied to anything
else, right?
Because I mean, again, a lot'shappened.

(49:26):
So you show up and then all of asudden, like, Leia's there,
which is nice.
And then, you know, oh, well,why aren't Han and Leia together
anymore?
We got no explanation of thatbesides, you know, things.
Well, what happened to theirson?
He's kind of a bad guy now.
Did they?

SPEAKER_03 (49:43):
Yeah, she went off and did her thing that she knew,
the Senate and government, andhe went off and did what he
knew, which is pirating orpiracy, uh, because of the way
things went went with Kylo.
So what happened with Ben?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:56):
They're like, shit, our kids are.

SPEAKER_01 (49:58):
I've heard the novels.
I guess the novels kind ofmuddied the waters for me in
that regard, just because theydid stay together and do so much
afterwards.
Like all of them were stilldoing things and hanging out.
So the movies kind of like madeit hard for me to go like buy in
on the oh, they just went theirseparate ways.
And I was like, wait a second.
We spent three whole the Legendsnovels or the canonics.

SPEAKER_03 (50:20):
Yeah.
The stuff that's not real.
So although I was actually gonnaI was actually gonna cut off
that that is not like thisalt-universe, multiverse, Star
Wars animated.
Just call it Star Wars Legendsand turn the entire 29 book
series, Vector Prime and allthat, and just make it its own

(50:40):
series.
It's Star Wars Legends.
We everybody knows it's notcanon.
Animate it, it would be freakingfantastic.
But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (50:49):
Yeah, start with Shadows of the Empire.

SPEAKER_03 (50:51):
If we got a Shadow of the Empire, yeah, I was gonna
say, start with Shadows of theEmpire.

SPEAKER_01 (50:55):
But and so I guess to me, like, it did like I never
felt that sequels like that thesequels didn't really stick with
me, obviously, since I hadcompletely forgotten that they
had kind of explained why Han.
But again, why why like I Idon't agree with that.
I Han and Leia should always betogether because we spent three
fucking movies with them gettingtogether, and then we go to uh

(51:17):
20 years later and all of asudden, wait, they're not
together anymore.
Like okay, and then episodeeight.
I mean, I I think I agree withyou, Lou.
I I probably out of the three ofyou guys, I probably enjoyed it
the most because I thought itcreated the most opportunity for
a different story, which is whatI wanted.
I didn't want the same stuff.
I was I'll be honest, I'mprobably one of those people

(51:40):
that was done with the Skywalkersaga long before everybody else.
You have an entire fuckinguniverse out there.
Why do we have to focus so muchon just this tiny little segment
of the universe, right?
Like the force influenceseverybody, but it only but if
your last name is Skywalker,then you get super touched by
the force while everybody elseis just kind of like I kind of

(52:01):
feel it.
Woo doo.

SPEAKER_00 (52:04):
Well, but like Jesus.
Yeah.
There's a whole universe, butthere's only us with Jesus here
on Earth.

SPEAKER_01 (52:12):
Yeah, exactly.
When the rapture happens.

SPEAKER_03 (52:16):
Toronto, go basketball.

SPEAKER_01 (52:17):
And I always had and I always I and and I again I
I've said this before that Istill I I had episode nine
probably built up way too muchin my head that it was gonna
like answer all these questionsand solve all these things and
be a good movie.
And after nine movies, theyafter nine of the you know,
after the solo and the rogue oneand all of that, like they had

(52:38):
like figured out what worked andwhat didn't, and then they were
gonna do that.
And they there was like all thepayoffs were I felt were like
super short and cheap andunearned.
And like you said, they werejust trying to get to the end.
They were just like, okay, whatwhat can we do to tie off all
these ends and make it somewhatmake sense while still bringing
in all of these callbacks fromthe previous movies, right?

(53:00):
So I feel bad because I likeLando, I like the Lando
character, but I yeah, like Ifeel bad that he got put in the
crappiest sequel.
Okay, Jack.
But I liked your explanation ofepisode eight, Lou.
We had never actually talkedabout that before, so I
appreciated that.
That that meant that made in myhead it makes a lot of sense why
you would feel that way aboutepisode eight.
So gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 (53:21):
Jack, what you got?
Sequels.

SPEAKER_00 (53:24):
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with um episode seven.
I mean, it I I'm able to takemovies, especially Star Wars,
like on its own, right?
Like, I agree with Duke.
I can hype it up in my head alot.
And I know a couple times, Ithink when we were driving to
Comic-Con Lou, like right afterthe last Jedi trailer came out,

(53:45):
we're like, no, this is what'sgonna happen.
And none of that shit happened.
Our version would have been waybetter.
Um but like I can go in therewith no expectations.
So I didn't have the problem.
I don't I didn't have a problemwith Rey having all these
powers, right?
She's a grown-ass woman, right?

(54:05):
So she's been honing itunconsciously, subconsciously,
right?
And when she finds out about allthis that maybe she has those
powers, that's why it kicks in.
Everybody accepted the littleAnakin is the only human that
could do pod racing.
Nobody said a goddamn thing.

SPEAKER_03 (54:22):
He'd also been doing it for years.
He'd also been doing it foryears.
This was a girl who learned shitin a for an hour.

SPEAKER_01 (54:27):
She learned it in a therapy session.

SPEAKER_03 (54:30):
Right.
Anakin Anakin had been doing itfor a while.
So it wasn't like it was like,oh, I wonder if I can do this,
and then go ace it and win thedamn booth and eve race.

SPEAKER_00 (54:38):
That's very different.
But again, she's been livingthat life, the scavenger life.
So there are probably thingsthat she has done that has kept
her alive in that world becauseof her force powers.

SPEAKER_03 (54:51):
So you think that she used any kind of horsepowers
in her life before learningabout the force?

SPEAKER_01 (54:57):
Inadvertently.

SPEAKER_03 (54:59):
Like, like I I that's I get that part.
It would be it would definitelybe inadvertent.
I'm just having troublebelieving anything relevant that
would, for example, the stuffshe did, like the one thing I'll
give her credit for, and I don'tthink she needed training on,
was using the lightsaber.
She clearly had a staff and wasfine with those type of weapons.
You know what I mean?

(55:19):
Whether it be a staff, sword, Iwould expect in her life she
would have learned how to usethe weapon.
I don't care that it's alightsaber.
It's like, oh my god, only Jedican use bullshit.
If you can use the sword, astick, whatever, you're good at
it.
The Jedi mind trick, what wasit?
The calling the saber at the endto herself.
Like Luke had trouble, and hehad been practicing for at this

(55:39):
point, uh, I I think it was atwo-year gap between episode
four and five.
So he at least had been had somekind of practice, and he was
still struggling in the ice caveto do it.
Ray was like, oh, first try,just kind of use telepathy here.
I got this.
Over an a trained or uh somebodywho's been training for 15, 20
years.

SPEAKER_00 (55:58):
Somebody who just killed his dad and got gut shot
by his favorite furry uncle.
And he was fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 (56:06):
That means he loses his abilities over a rookie.
You gotta be kidding me.
It makes him weaker.

SPEAKER_01 (56:11):
Well, and let's be clear.
Yeah, but it doesn't make sense.
It wasn't just some Joe Schmoedumbass.
It was James Fucking Bond.

SPEAKER_03 (56:23):
So I get that.
And I think again, uh and Jackand I have had this discussion
because I bitched about it 10years ago that she was holding
her own against Kylo, and thatnever should have happened.
I understand he wasn't trying tokill her because he was trying
to get her on your side, but tohave lost the battle, no effing

(56:44):
way.
It was bleeding out.
And he just killed his dad.

SPEAKER_00 (56:48):
Don't matter.
It does.
He was in his head.
You're like, shit, I just killedmy dad.
My uncle just shot me.
I'm bleeding all over the f snowfor some reason.
My wound didn't cauterise.

SPEAKER_03 (57:00):
Then with after an adult died the way he is, that
would make you even morepowerful because you're more
pissed off.

SPEAKER_00 (57:05):
You're more angry.
Because Snoke already called himweak.
So he's already emotional overall this shit.
He still loves his parents.

SPEAKER_01 (57:14):
And they showed multiple times throughout the
sequel trilogies that the onething that Kylo never really had
control over was his emotions.
So I could see him gettingdistracted enough to not.

SPEAKER_03 (57:30):
That whole that thing is.

SPEAKER_00 (57:34):
See that again?
I missed that.
You think Kylo's stronger thanhe actually is.

SPEAKER_03 (57:38):
No, no.
I think he's just stronger thana rookie Ray, actually.
That's all.
I'm not saying he's not Vader byany means, but we're talking
Kylo and Ray.
Kylo should be way up here.
And okay, he's shot and he'semotional.
Okay, he drops here.
Guess what?
He's still way the hell up aboveher.

SPEAKER_00 (57:58):
But now Ray is fighting for her life and Finn's
life.
So that brings her up too, likea pregnant lady picking up a
fucking car.
Okay, so that now puts her uphere.
Still below him.
They're more equal than you'regiving her credit for.

SPEAKER_01 (58:11):
No.
Can we all agree that Finnshould have died in episode
seven, though?
No.

SPEAKER_00 (58:15):
No, because then he couldn't be late naked and leaky
in episode eight.

SPEAKER_01 (58:19):
Or yelling Ray's name for all of episode nine.

SPEAKER_03 (58:22):
Now remember, this was back when Disney was very
gotta kiss ass to a certaingroup of people, so at certain
Chinese.
Uh so the black guy couldn'tdie.
Yeah.
Except for the China version.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:36):
They don't have Finn in the city.

SPEAKER_03 (58:38):
It would have made more moon money in China if they
would have killed him off andlike they made different cuts.
Like Clue.
We have different endings inClue going to different uh
cities back in the 70s, 80s.
If they did that with Finn andkilled him off, China would have
you would have got a billiondollars alone in China.

SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
Eight, I don't have a problem with it.
Again, it because of how theywere making it, I thought it was
a better movie.
I like that they did somethingdifferent with it.
I don't care that they killedLuke.
Because whatever.
Yeah.
I don't have a boner form likeeverybody else does.
It all made sense within thatmovie, right?
But when nine came out and justretconned it, I was surprised

(59:15):
Luke wasn't alive again,honestly.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:18):
Yeah.
I mean, that's I mean, that's agreat point.
If you're gonna completely eraseeverything that the previous
movie did, then why not justhave Luke come out from behind
the tree that's now no longerburned, you know?
Like oh hey, sorry, I wasdropping a deuce behind the Jedi
tree.
What uh did I miss something,guys?

SPEAKER_03 (59:34):
It was let me go suck some.
It's just the Jedi vision orsomething.
It was like Leia's vision, andit didn't really happen.

SPEAKER_01 (59:40):
There you go.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, she's the whole the wholething was when she was when she
was playing Mary Poppins.

SPEAKER_03 (59:45):
Right.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (59:49):
Yeah.
You guys you guys drink the theblue milk off the teats?
Did you get that down there?
Do you guys get that?
We didn't homogenize it.

SPEAKER_00 (59:57):
It causes hallucinations.
But nine, I actually watched.
Nine a week or two aroundisland.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:02):
You got the fucking sand, you got blue milk.
Ugh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:05):
There was no sand on Octo.
There were no beaches.
It just goes right up to rocks.
It was mostly great.
It's all rocks, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:11):
Okay.
Yeah.
I do love the caretakers.
You still gotta drink the greentitty milk though.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:15):
From the from the lizard.
The caretakers are better thanthe Ewoks, though.
If only because the way thatthey look at Ray when she shoots
the exact.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:24):
And they're just like, Mother.
It's their attitude.
That's exactly it.
I 100% agree.
It's their attitude is whatmakes them a little bit better.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I every time thathappens, that look is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:36):
Any hate on episode eight is invalid because they
gave us porgs.
So fuck it.
Porgs are amazing.
Especially the crying one.
Yeah.
Chewbacca's dissolved.
Chewy's trying to eat that fool.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:50):
But you already freaking cooked it up.
Don't waste it now.
Yeah.
Hate motherfuckers.
You'll go make it dad fornothing.
That's what I'm saying.
God was food right now.
I don't eat leftovers.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:03):
Lou wanted to book called Lou and the Porgs, and
there's actually marshmallows onthe Falcon that Chewie didn't
want to eat.
And then the Porgs ate them all.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:11):
Lou's biggest problem is that Chewy was about
to eat that shit without gloveson.
No, he was going to go wash hishands in the ocean water
afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:19):
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:23):
No, I think you could grab a porg like without
having to worry about bloves.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:27):
Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:29):
Yeah, if you got the pork blades.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:32):
No, again, like I said, I watched it like a week
or two ago when I was workingout in the casita.
Not working out, no.
I was like, this guy workingshow off in.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:44):
He gonna show you, he's gonna show up all buff and
shit when we show up to Disneyall fat and sloppy, and Jack's
like, check this out.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:53):
I heard Jack has an eight pack.
T-shirt don't count.
But I I don't mind it.
I mean, yeah, it's a littlebecause of all the hate that
eight got for whatever reasonthey had to again, like I said,
I'm surprised Luke wasn't aliveagain.

(01:02:13):
Part of it was because CarrieFisher died, so they couldn't
give her character the uhjustice, the storyline they
wanted to do with it.
But there are a lot of reallygood parts of episode nine, I
think.
Ray and Kylo fighting on uh theDeath Star.
I fucking love that wholesequence from beginning to end,
right up until Han shows up andhe throws his lightsaber in the

(01:02:35):
ocean.
Spoiler! Amazing.
Because it's easy to do.
I guess we should have Well,there's a part where Han comes
back.
Han's alive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:43):
So Han is alive.
Why isn't Luke alive?

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:46):
What the fuck is going on here?
There are a lot of good parts toepisode nine.
Did it do what it should havedone?
No.
But again, I I just like StarWars.
I will watch all of it.
I can agree that it's not allgreat.
But I'll watch anything StarWars over and over again, except
Resistance.
Resistance was a one and done,but Yeah, nine.
We're not talking about animatedseries.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:07):
Not much hate.
Yeah, we'll get to that.
That'll be like next week or theweek after.
Or when it's in my head and Ican't get over it because I'm on
the spectrum.
But either way.
Alright, so now we have twominutes.
Nine, again, not really hate.
Like the stuff you talk about, Iliked it too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:24):
There's a lot of good parts to it.
It's just it didn't do what itshould have done.
Yeah.
You know, which is wrap all thisup in a nice little bow.
Okay.
You want to do solo first orrogue one?
We can do solo.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:36):
We're all like rogue one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:36):
Nobody had a political.
So that's what I was saying.
Let's finish on the high note.
Let's talk about solo first.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:42):
I'll give you there's still some hate with
Rogue One.
I'll share it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:45):
Yeah, the trailers.
Yep, that's exactly what it is.
Talk about not knowing themovie.
Talk about not knowing the movieon the way back from Comic-Con.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:54):
Oh my god, that's so funny.
That is my hate with Rogue One,is like they fucking lied to us.

unknown (01:04:00):
False.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:00):
The marketing department was awful.
Solo?
Jack will tell you, I was pissedwhen I left the theater after
solo.
I was just like, what the hellwas this garbage?
Then I saw it again like fourmonths later, and it was like,
this is a pretty good movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:15):
Yeah.
I was hated L3.
He's like, it's feminist wokebullshit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:20):
Yep.
And still, and then they broughther ass back for Indiana Jones,
and she's the same fuckingcharacter.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:26):
But until the last 10 minutes when she has a
complete change of character.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:30):
Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:32):
It was hot solo.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:35):
Again, now I've seen it a few more times since that
original I'm pissed at the worldversion that I saw.
It was fine.
When that movie, when thetrailer first came out, we all
knew there were three things wehad to figure out, right?
How he got the Falcon, how hegot Wachui, and the Kessel Run.
Those were the only three thingsthey had to put in the movie,

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and everything else was justbonus.
And they put all three things inthe movie.
And you know, it was moreentertaining.
It probably did ex-there's noproblem.
I expected more from it thefirst time I saw it.
And once I just dropped out ofthat and was like, okay, let's
go watch the movie and enjoy themovie for what it is.
I did.
I enjoyed the movie for what itwas, and it was the only hate
that I would argue about that isthere's no follow-up.

(01:05:20):
What there's gonna be inanimated form, but they'll
follow up with uh a Darth Maultease at the end.
But again, they're gonna fixthat in the future next year
with the animated.
So yeah, that's I can say nowthat I can watch solo and not
have any issues with it.
In the sense of there's no hatethat I have.
Like, oh my god, here's thisscene.
No, I'm good.

(01:05:40):
Acceptable, acceptable.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:41):
You guys?
Solo.
I don't think I've heard you sayanything bad about solo, D.
I don't think I've ever heardyou say anything bad about it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:48):
I mean, I wish the gang would have stayed together
a little bit longer.
I wish that that was probably mybiggest complaint is I wish they
would have fleshed them out alittle bit more.
Because we meet everybody, youget to know everybody for like,
you know, five or ten minutes,and then everyone's dead.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:00):
Like that's because that's because Duke is a racist.
He wanted the black girl tolive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:07):
No, I want a John, I want a John Favreau's character
to live, okay?
I want that character, I wantthat character in my life more.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:13):
Has Rio Durant's fan club banner he had printed up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:17):
Yeah.
It's uh, you know, it's had togo from Rio Durant to to uh
there you go, to Babu Frick toNeil to life going after this
too.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:28):
There we go.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:29):
There we go.
But so that would be my onlything, is I would have liked to
have had more background withthose characters.
Like because I think then itwould have made like Woody
Harrelson's turn and that typeof stuff kind of more impactful.
But I also understand too, Imean, these are two completely
different movies with puttogether by two completely
different directors who haddifferent motivations for the

(01:06:52):
whole thing.
And you can see that watchingthe movie, who directed what
part, right?
So I don't I mean, I think uhAlden Adenright got way too much
hate for his Han.
Like, I mean, what else werethey were they gonna just de-age
Harrison Ford through the wholemovie?
Like, yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:08):
No, he was Han Solo, he wasn't trying to play
Harrison Ford, in my opinion.
Right.
He was playing Han Solo andperfectly fine at it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:15):
Right.
I agree.
No issues with his with thefactor playing the role.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:19):
I I my biggest problem with Solo is like
there's so many interestingcharacters in Solo that I I want
to I want to I want to see ananimated series with Enfist Nest
and that group and how itstarted and how that character
maybe has evolved.
Maybe you have three or fourepisodes of an animated series
where each one is a differentEnfist Nest changes, right?

(01:07:39):
Yeah, because I was kind of theimpression that they gave was
that Enfist was a symbol, itwasn't a person necessarily.
So we're all in the piraterobbery.
Right, exactly.
So, you know, that type ofthing.
Again, I would love to have ayoung so a young Lando.
We have a shit ton of Landobooks and everything else,
comics and everything out there,legends and not, that are prime

(01:08:03):
for you know Donald Glever tocome in and and and take over.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:06):
Like a Lando and Hondo's buddy cop series.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:10):
I would on bold sign me sign me up.
Sign me up and you just haveChewie drop in every once in a
while.
So I don't I mean, the problemsthat I had with Solo at the
beginning, kind of like you,Lou, I think my expectations
were I I think knowing all thebackground that we did, and I
think that's part of it too, iswhen the original movies came
out, we had no background.

(01:08:34):
We had no there were nobehind-the-scenes stuff.
It was, oh, we just saw themovies for what they were.
And even starting with episodeone, I mean, we were looking at
shit, we were looking atpre-production stuff that they
were putting on the internet twoyears before the movie came out.
And so we got so much like wealmost got inundated with all of
the stuff building up to it, andI feel that that was the same

(01:08:55):
way with solo.
I think if you go into solowithout knowing, oh hey, like
halfway through the directorschanged, and here's all the
drama, and here's all this andthat.
Like, I feel like you go intothat movie thinking differently,
you know.
But in hindsight, I don't have aproblem with it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:10):
So I agree.
My issue with it is there was atone point, I don't know if it
was Ron Howard or uh the Legodirectors, they're like, Yep,
we're gonna find out how HansTolo got his name.
And I'm like, okay, cool, likehis smuggler name, right?
No, that motherfucker's lastname just made that shit up on
the spot.
That pissed me the fuck off.

(01:09:32):
But the rest of me, I don'tmind.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:34):
I'm I'm guess I'm guessing that was uh that was a
hey, these guys were gonna dothis and make it funny, but we
just need to get to this point.
Yeah so just have it be thisscene.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:44):
Yeah, so that part actually pissed me off.
I kind of like but he was byhimself.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:50):
Also known as Polo.
I mean the other shoulders.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:55):
We could have just fucking said Skywalker.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:01):
That would have worked.
That would've worked.
The people people would havebought it.
He saw their wanted posters andwas like I I would have guessed
that he was at some kind ofspace church in the choir, then
he stepped out and sung a songby himself.
So he performed a solo.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:22):
Hon Soprano.
So yeah, so that was dumb ashell.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:26):
I liked that they sometimes I like it, sometimes I
don't.
That they use the Imperial Marchfor the uh recruiting video in
the train station.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:33):
But it's like in in movie, like in movie audio, like
yeah, I was like, it's kind ofdumb.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:41):
But like I hate it and I don't especially since
they use it for I mean it'scalled the Imperial March, but
it's fucking Vader's theme.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So if it was used more forImperial stuff and not just
Vader, it would make more sense.
Um but no, I liked it.
I mean the whole story was good,but yeah, like Lou said, the

(01:11:04):
ending.
Darth Wall is like, yep, we'regonna fuck shit up unless this
movie bombs later and now we'renever gonna find out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:12):
Well, see you in animation.
Maybe, hopefully.
We'll see.
Yeah.
So Rogue One.
Rogue One.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:20):
I mean So you remember on the trailer when Jen
was up on that platform wherethe TIE fighters came at her,
and then there was the other onewith uh the sun setting and the
three TIE fighters flying awayand stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:32):
Then you've got the running on the beach.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:35):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:35):
Yeah, none of that happened.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:36):
How did that happen?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:40):
I will say that out of all of the Star Wars movies,
Rogue One is the one that Iprobably have seen the most
frequently over the last likefive to seven years.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:51):
It's a good movie because it's self-contained.
It's probably a good movie thesame reason episode four is a
good movie.
It's nice and self-contained.
You don't need to know whathappened before, you don't need
to know what happens after.
It's all right there.
You could learn more.
Oh, yeah.
You don't have to.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:09):
There's absolutely more there for you, but you
don't need it, and you can justbe fine.
And to Duke's point, I'vewatched that one more than than
the other ones.
For me, it's probably the oneI've watched the third most.
Uh, because I don't always watchone through nine or whatever the
case may be.
I will watch five by itself, Iwill watch three by itself.

(01:12:30):
So I would argue that five inorder, five, three, rogue one
would be like the one throughthe most of the eleven.
It would be I obviously wouldhave seen Empire more than all
of them.
I'll watch that one just byitself and just be done with it
for the week, you know, donewith Star Wars for the week.
And then every once in a whileI'll want to watch episode
three, and then Rogue One willcome in if it's gonna be.

(01:12:54):
Don't get me wrong, a lot of thetimes it'll be pick a trilogy
and just watch all three ofthem, pick whatever trilogy.
But no, there's a lot of timeswhere it's just watch episode
five and then a month later,watch episode three, then a
month later, watch rogue one,and then watch five, then three,
then five, then three, and thenrogue one, then five, then
three.
No, that's usually how it goeswith me.
But Jack's not wrong.

(01:13:15):
I'm still irritated about thewhole trailer thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:17):
Well that and Suicide Squad came out around
the same time, and thebatteries.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:23):
Yeah, that's basically I was like, man, this
is bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:30):
Thank you, Britton.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:31):
But again, I mean, I feel the same way about Rogue
One, and we got that with Andor.
So we've actually gottencharacters that were introduced
in Rogue One that we've gottento see more stories from and
more, you know, background andstuff for.
So that's awesome.
I read some stuff saying theywere trying to they there was
some conversation aboutShoehorning and a bunch of the

(01:13:51):
other Rogue One guys at the endof Andor season two, and I'm
really fucking glad they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:57):
Jinn did not have to show up.
Yeah, it wasn't called Andor andJin.
That didn't need yeah, itwouldn't even make sense.
She had to have a wave of therebellion.
After all, things like how wasthat fittering?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:08):
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't I didn't hear aboutthat.
Yeah, it was like Lucasfilm.
I think I saw something whereTony Gilroy had said that
Lucasfilm had came to him in atthe beginning when they were
developing season two and wasbasically like, Hey, so how do
we get everybody else from RogueOne in here?
And he's like, No, we don'tbecause it doesn't fucking make
sense.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:26):
If it if it would have made sense, sure.
Right.
But totally makes sense, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:32):
You had to bring in K.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:34):
Yeah, he was with him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:36):
He was with him in the movie, so you had to figure
out how he got him.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:41):
So that type of stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:43):
Yeah, honestly, the only thing I would have been
okay shoeing horning in would beum Baz and uh fucking Donny Yin.
Baze and Turret.
Yeah, so we could have been onJeddah and seen like some of
that shit going on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:57):
I don't know.
It had to have been relevant tothe story, though.
If it wasn't relevant to thestory, like and I don't mean the
Rogue One story, it needd berelevant to the Andor.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:04):
Well, and also because they didn't care about
Jeddah until then.
Yeah, even once they were donewith um fucking uh what's his
face?
Forrest Whitaker.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:14):
Yeah, I guess Saw was.
Oh my yeah.
Saw Yeah, I mean even Saw, likeI think got the short shift
during uh during Andor.
Like that's it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:22):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:23):
They're like, here's Saw, here's what he's doing, and
now we're doing the other rebelstuff.
Hey, drugs.
And then like after the drugscene, he's literally not in any
Yeah.
He gets he gets Homeboy High andthen he fucking bails.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:38):
And it do and it helps explain why he is how he
is in Rogue One, so yay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:42):
But I don't know why we had to get Homeboy high,
because that didn't they didn'texplain like like that that's a
but it's a minor we all havethat black friend that gets you
high and fucking bails on.
True.
Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:54):
Mine is Jack.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:58):
So will rebuke, so is yours.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:05):
High on life.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:06):
Mm-hmm.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:10):
But no, Star Wars is amazing.
I will watch any of it any day.
I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:14):
Except for resistance.
Except for resistance.

unknown (01:16:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:17):
There were some good episodes of it.
I don't hate all the characters,but I had did have to force
myself to get to a point where Ididn't.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:26):
I just had still been past episode seven or eight
or whatever it was ofresistance.
I was like, I'm over it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:30):
I can't.
Just read the summary.
Watch the five-minute summary onDisney Plus.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:35):
You know what?
I was gonna say, was there one?
Because I'm gonna go see if RyanAry or New Rock Stars or
somebody else did one of just asummary on YouTube and just
watch that.
Because like I said, I was juststruggling to get through the
eight episodes that I could getthrough.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:51):
It was brutal.
Once Feloney said, Oh, I can doClone Wars by Resistance, they
should have been like, notresistance is done.
We're out.
We've tied it up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:00):
I mean, again, it introduced some cool ideas.
I think the idea of likefollowing people who are doing
like the racing and that type ofthing was pretty cool.
But wrapping it around like thisguy who's like annoying.

unknown (01:17:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:13):
Spy.

unknown (01:17:14):
Spy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:14):
Dude, it's I I started watching 28 Years Later.
If either of you guys watch 28Years Later.
Oh, the new one's on streaming?
Uh, I think it's paid right now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:24):
So damn, that's been out forever.
How is that?
How is like Fantastic Four andall this other shit out on
streaming?
And that one isn't.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:32):
Shit, I'm getting Fantastic Four and Blu-ray on
Tuesday.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:35):
See, see, uh it's on Netflix, I guess.
It's on Netflix.
It's on Netflix 28 years later,isn't it?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:40):
Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:40):
I'm having a really hard time getting through it.
Really?
Which really sucks because 28Days Later is one of my I love
28 Days Later.
I'm having a hard time becauseagain, the the tropes that we've
talked about that are alwaysfrustrating in movies.
And I bet I bet you I'm gonnaput this out right now.
On today, what's today?
October 25th.
October 2525.

(01:18:01):
When Lou watches this movie,he's gonna know exactly what I'm
talking about.
Um right now on the HumbleBundle, they actually have the
Star Wars novels, and I thinkthey're all the post Um the post
Legends ones.
So you can get sixteen books for$18, which is not a bad deal.
What's that bad of a deal?

(01:18:21):
Shadow of the Sith, Catalyst,Aftermath, Brotherhood,
Bloodline, Last Shot, ResistanceReborn, uh, Aftermath, Empire's
End, Aftermath, Life Death,Lords of the Sith, Phasma, Here
to the Jedi, Hair to the Jedi,Battlefront Twilight Company,
Rise of the Red Blade, MaceWindu, and the Princess and the

(01:18:43):
Scoundrel.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:44):
Um, somebody that's read most of those, that is a
good deal.
The aftermath books are like Yougotta get through Chuck Wendig's
writing.
His writing is they bring ingood ideas, it introduces Cobb
Vance, Mr.
Bones, who is up in the casita.
There are a lot of good thingsin those, but his writing style

(01:19:06):
fucking kills.
I was gonna say Chuck Wendig'swriting is horrible.
He's the author.
And you know how those uh thosenew rappers they go da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da dada da that's how he writes.
But a lot of those other booksare very good.
Lap Shout was good, that's umLando, and he has an Ewok
hacker, which is funny as hellbecause she still speaks Ewok

(01:19:28):
ease.
She's like trying to help himhack shit.
That's where Kylo gets his gunfrom that he has in uh episode
nine when they finally getaround to making it.
Did I read Prince and Scoundrel?
I don't know if I read that one.
But because they kept giving usautograph copies at Comic-Con
for a few years, I've read a tonof them.
I'm reading the main.

(01:19:51):
Yeah, I don't think I've readthat one yet.
Air to the Jedi was good.
The one about when everybodyfinds out that Vader was Leia's
dad, and all the shit hits thefan because of that.
That one was pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:05):
Is that the Lords of the Sith?
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:09):
That one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:10):
Did I read that one?

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:11):
Wasn't it wasn't it Bloodlines?

unknown (01:20:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:14):
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:15):
Yeah, I think it was Bloodlines.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:16):
Brotherhood.
Looks like a young Obi-Wan anduh Anakin book.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:22):
Yes, that one was good.

unknown (01:20:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:24):
Shadow with a Sith.
Looks like it's uh Luke andsomebody.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:28):
That one is Luke and Lando when they go looking for
Ochi and the Sith um Wayfinder.
Uh Catalyst, I think Catalyst isgood, right?

unknown (01:20:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:39):
Wrote one novel.
Yes, that one was good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:42):
That one was really good.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:43):
Yeah, it was.
Then that's more um like howCrinic came to power and
everything.
Yeah.
And started hooking up with umwith Galen.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All the flashbacks on the roguewar.
Yeah, that's where those are.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:57):
That's where those come from in that book.
And holy shit, that was welldone.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:01):
Yeah, it was a good book.
So that is a good deal.
If you're looking to read StarWars books, yeah, jump on.
No argument there.
Okay.
And then you can learn canoninstead of holding back on
legends.
Learn the real shit, not thatfake shit.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:16):
So as we start to wrap this up, we're gonna bring
something back because I had anopportunity to do something this
weekend.
That was white people shit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:23):
All shit.
Damn, lose white people shit.
And next week we're gonna talkabout positive things.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:30):
Next week we're gonna talk about how you see put
a stomping on Notre Dame.
That's what we're gonna talkabout.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:35):
Shit.
You wait.
I'm gonna have to be in themiddle on the screen next week.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:41):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:43):
So you guys can't throw shit at each other.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:46):
Oh man.
But so so yesterday, uh, firstof all, I had a symphony on
Thursday, but I I was just sonot in the mood.
And it was opening, it wasdowntown Denver, and it was
opening night uh home opener forthe Avalanche, and it was like
the more and more I was like, Iyou know, for the$20 ticket, I
am fine losing it.
It was uh the symphony with uhDavid Bowie music.

(01:22:09):
So it was like eh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:10):
It wouldn't have been horrible, but it's not
worth fighting that traffic.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:13):
Right, exactly.
Yeah, so but I knew it was nobig deal because I had one
Saturday.
So yesterday it was CirqueCinema uh with Troop, Vertigo,
whatever the hell it was.
So I I didn't really payattention to it.
It was more for for uh for thegirl because she's all into that
type of stuff.
Uh, and I was like, all right,I'll go.
Uh when we got ticket sale fivemonths ago.

(01:22:34):
And it was badass.
Okay, so first of all, the certcinema part was all the music
was from theater, movies, shows,whatever the case may be.
Turns out they had ImperialMarch Ray's theme, uh, the Rogue
One theme, and John Williamsstuff, the Jaws theme, the Lois
and Superman Love theme, youknow, Superman.

(01:22:57):
It was like, okay, that's it.
I think those five for I can'tremember if there's another one,
but at least those five fromJohn Williams was in it, so that
was pretty badass.
But while they were playing,they had the cert troop doing
their thing.
It was like six or seven ofthem.
I want to say six, one likecontortionist, and then the
girls who hang from like theceiling and stuff and spin

(01:23:20):
around and do all that and wrapthemselves.
Oh, was it theme to the songs?
Yes.
It was like like when they gotto some of the Star Wars stuff,
they were out like what likewhen they did Imperial March,
the contortionist was in a blackand silver type stuff, and she
was shooting, she was doingflexible bending, shooting a bow
and arrow at a character dressedas Ray.

(01:23:42):
It was just like okay.
And they timed it very well witheverything, like so when they
ended when the song ended, uh,and it was my god, it was so
cool.
So they had the contortionists,they had the the people who hang
around up in the ceiling andspin around, that big wheel
thing where the guy kind ofspins around and rotates.
The best, my favorite, was thedude who was doing a balancing

(01:24:05):
act.
So he's on a table, like threefeet off the ground, and then on
the table, he's got like thecylinders and like the board,
like the wake board you have tostand on and balance yourself on
that.
Well, the cylinder was onanother cylinder, and he was on
the board on top of that, and hewas juggling and all this type

(01:24:25):
of shit.
It was so cool, and then he puta second set that he was
balancing on, and then finally athird set, and no failure.
He completely knocked it out ofthe ballpark.
It was just like, are youkidding me?
It was I was so impressed.
Front row seats.
I was literally in right, I wassitting there touching the lady
had to come over and tell me notto touch the stage like twice.

(01:24:47):
Uh, because I was too close.
Just kind of gettingcomfortable, but uh, it was
ma'am.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:51):
You played the Imperial March and I got a
boner.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:54):
That's what I'm saying.
What am I supposed to do?
It's not my fault.
It's like I can't man, put putsomebody's ugly grandma up
there, and then fine, it'll goaway.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:05):
Well, maybe we all know Lou loves grandmas, so I
was gonna say, guilt guiltstarted.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:10):
But yeah, so so it was you know, two hours with a
20 minute 20-minuteintermission.
Uh uh again, symphonic musicthroughout the whole thing, five
John Williams songs.
It it it was at least five JohnWilliams songs.
It was very well done.
Oh, wait, six, eighteen.
That was one of them too.

(01:25:31):
But but yeah, the troupe wasgreat.
They did a great job with theiracrobatics and everything.
Music is always good at thesymphony, and it was a long day
because that's how the dayended.
Yesterday started at the GreatAmerican Beer Festival.
So it was four hours of here'syour cup, go try a thousand

(01:25:51):
different beers, have fun.
And man, I think I only tried 20of the thousand.
It was crazy, but it wasawesome.
Had a great yeah, for real.
Had a great my first time doingit.
I had I've heard about itforever.
Oh my god, it it was it washappening.
So that started like at noon,ended at about five, went to
dinner till about six fifteen,and then went and relaxed and

(01:26:16):
chilled in the car.
Girls watching the Texas Techgame.
I'm watching the USC game thatwe're able to watch till
halftime until it's time to goto the show.
So, yeah, white people shit allaround.
And I do mean white people shitbecause that Great American Beer
Festival, I counted six blackpeople.
There's probably severalthousand people there, and I
counted six.
Working it or attending it?

(01:26:39):
Attending.
I didn't see but two working it.
The same brothers in one booth.
Man, they should have just namedit Negro Brewery, but it was it
was It was a watermelon beer.
Dude, I had the watermelon beer.
It was so good.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:53):
I'm not even kidding.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:54):
It was like, you know what though?
Old girl puts what he pointedout.
He's like, hey, there'swatermelon beer over there.
You might like it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:00):
I'm like, oh fuck you.
But I did like that.
But you're right, let's go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:04):
Yeah, which is way wrong.
It was yummy.
Uh it really was.
Like, I would, I would, I wouldbuy a six-pack of that
watermelon beer.
It was it was really good.
But yeah, and then and then inbetween that, like in like in
between beers, like towards thatlast hour, uh uh they did a
what's it called?
The I don't I can't rememberwhat it's called, the quiet
disco or something, soundless.

(01:27:26):
You had headphones.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't for sure the name forit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:29):
Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:30):
Uh it's a silent dance party or something.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:33):
Yeah, exactly.
And it was disco for this one.
And she's like, Oh, I was like,You want to try?
Like, yeah, I'm like, all right.
So we go over, she's listeningto one.
There's three differentstations.
She's listening to one, I'mlistening to one.
We're not listening to the sameone.
After her first song is done,she switches to my station,
which is basically a black souldisco station.
And it was like me, her, likeeight other people around us,
bro.
Listen to the same thing, getinto it.

(01:27:54):
Oh my god, it was it was so fun.
Yeah, I loved it.
I'm all singing it, doing my oldPrince thing when Prince came
on, even though Prince uh theyplayed Kiss, and it was like,
all right, but damn, talk aboutrandom man.
My my my legs at 50 trying todance ain't the same as my legs
at 25 trying to dance.
My hips, my hips.

(01:28:15):
Lord have mercy.
Ah, sweating all pouring down.
I was like, I feel bad,whoever's getting these
headphones uh back from me.
Uh, because they're kind of likeJack's headphones that he has
on.
Uh and it was like, don't bewrong, they have the wipes,
they're wiping them down.
But I'm telling you, my shit wasjust I'm like, afterwards, a
girl's looking at me and she'slike, Do you need to sit down?
I'm like, Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:35):
It's like my heart's racing.
No, I'm hot's racing.
It's like, whoa, big Elizabeth,coming to see you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:42):
I ain't gonna lie.
I was like watching these peopleand they look like idiots, and I
went and joined them.
I was like, you know what?
Let's give it a shot.
I would do it again.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:52):
That's why I don't do it on the Disney cruise.
I've walked by, I'm like, I lookstupid as fuck.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:56):
Yeah, no, next time I'm gonna put yourself on the
deck.
Jump on, jump on it.
Just just just have fun afterfool.
Because I tell you what, therewere again, a bunch of white
people, and their dancingskills.
I probably shouldn't use theword.
I probably shouldn't use theword skills when discussing the
dancing.
But either way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:13):
But you don't know that they're off rhythm because
you can't hear their music.
They're off something.
I mean, no matter what, itshouldn't look like they're
having a seizure.
I'm just saying.
Then they were listening to theHumpty Dance.
It's supposed to look like afitter, a commotion.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:31):
Lou, I got one for you.
Gotta say, I can't help but payattention to the protesting
frogs in Portland.
The story is so riveting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:44):
Look, I understand some of you aren't gonna like
that joke.
You're gonna be hopping mad, butit's okay.
Also But yeah, but we gotta talkabout Notre Dame USC, so we can
watch that one Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:57):
Yeah.
That's at 4 30.
Uh

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:00):
Time.
Yeah, 5 30 mine.
Yeah.
That'll be a fun one.
Jack can jump in on that oneunless you have Saturday night.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:05):
That might be that should be doable.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:08):
I know college ain't your jam, but still.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:11):
Hanging out with my friends is.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:14):
Rooting and hating for both of us.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:16):
Alright, boys, I gotta go blow my nose.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:18):
Jack's been talking shit the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:20):
I've been trying so hard not to sneeze for like the
last 20 minutes.
Boys, it's been fun.
Good pod.
Glad we were able to get backinto the pocket.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:30):
Hour 37.
Didn't you feel like it?

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:32):
I know.
That's cut a whole bunch of shitout.
After it cuts out all the umsand ahs, it'll be 22 minutes.
Yeah, it will.
The usual.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:40):
Okay, we should be back next week.
Nobody needs to be getting sickno more.
Yeah, we gotta talk about allthe mad shit we talked about.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:46):
So don't don't you guys, our fans, want to know
what happened between USC andNotre Dame?
Which one of us is talking mostshit on TV?
Yeah, you'll know which one ofus, because we're we're gonna
bring it up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:58):
And what Lou and what what Lou thinks of the end
of the the uh Peacemaker series?
Oh yeah, we'll talk about thattoo.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:04):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:06):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:31:07):
So every time we're saying Ven channel.
Nice.
Yeah, as nobody else has donethat.
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